From owner-freebsd-toolchain@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 11 13:32:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: toolchain@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6492C106566B; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C5E8FC08; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8BDWFnU087268; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q8BDWFbi087267; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:32:15 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Erik Cederstrand Message-ID: <20120911133215.GB87126@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20120910211207.GC64920@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20120911104518.GF37286@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20120911120649.GA52235@freebsd.org> <20120911122122.GJ37286@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20120911123833.GA54483@freebsd.org> <848C813E-E6EC-4FAF-9374-B5583A077404@cederstrand.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <848C813E-E6EC-4FAF-9374-B5583A077404@cederstrand.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: toolchain@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clang as default compiler November 4th X-BeenThere: freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Maintenance of FreeBSD's integrated toolchain List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:32:20 -0000 On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 02:52:20PM +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote: > Den 11/09/2012 kl. 14.38 skrev Roman Divacky : > > By the nature of "developing the OS" we are forced to use compilers and > > toolchains. Recently I saw you submitting/committing patches with .byte > > sequences because our default assembler cant handle the instructions. > > I saw jhb@ updating binutils to support invept/invvpid. > > > > In my eyes, switching to clang by default lowers the compiler/toolchain > > maintenance burden we have. > > I agree. Switching away from abandonware to a compiler that > is actively maintained is a good thing. Interest twist of history. GCC is not abandonware. I can assure you GCC development is very much alive. The abandonment of GCC was a FreeBSD developers/community decision. -- Steve