From owner-cvs-all Wed Oct 24 19:53:56 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808F937B405; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9P2rjZ138310; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:53:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20011024205654.E3080@FreeBSD.org> References: <200110242107.OAA09339@windsor.research.att.com> <20011024205654.E3080@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:53:42 -0400 To: Ade Lovett , Bill Fenner From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Switch to newer AUTOCONF, and fixing ports Cc: portmgr@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Was: cvs commit: ports/devel/automake Makefile distinfo pkg-plist ports/devel/automake/files patch-ab patch-ad At 8:56 PM -0500 10/24/01, Ade Lovett wrote: >On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 02:07:35PM -0700, Bill Fenner wrote: >> My experience with newer autoconf a few months ago is that it is not >> backwards-compatible, so we'd need to create a way to have multiple >> autoconf versions installed. > >Ideally, we'd solve this with a separate testbed ports cluster, so we >(portmgr) could drop in the new libtool/autoconf/etc.., get everything >working, then drop it in to the real system. > >Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be possible right now. > >However, given that 4.4 is out the door, 4.5 is some time away, and 5.x >is just, well, 5.x, perhaps we should lay down a specific tag in the >ports tree (or a firm date) for cvsup updates, flip the switch, then >go through any issues associated with the new autoconf/libtool. > >Sure, initially there's likely to be huge breakage in the ports/ tree, >but I don't see any alternatives, and right now, time is on our side. This seems like a reasonable tactic to me, but I think you need to make sure more people are aware of the proposal (and are comfortable with it) before doing it. Thus, I have changed the subject line on this message, and pointed it to a different combination of mailing lists... This would also allow more people to come up with alternate proposals. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message