From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 14 01:32:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA21406 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 01:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.xtalwind.net (slipper3b.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.56]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA21388 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 01:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.xtalwind.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA02752; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:31:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:31:55 -0400 (EDT) From: jack Reply-To: jack To: hmmm cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: user ppp In-Reply-To: <3239F50E.D6D@alaska.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, hmmm wrote: > > ppp -auto > > -i- don't see a PID for PPP when started as a daemon (-auto) > are you sure ? Never peeked into /var/run/PPP. have you? Or entered ps -ax | grep ppp That gives me: 165 ?? Ss -0:04.18 ppp -auto cwc-demand Gee, that 165 sure looks like the contents of /var/run/PPP.cwc-demand zeus:jack {8} cat /var/run/PPP.cwc-demand 165 zeus:jack {9} > actually, httpd doesn't show either. I don't have that running here, but a quick telnet to the office turns up: 17601 ?? I 0:00.33 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http 17613 ?? I 0:00.26 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http 17614 ?? I 0:00.26 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http 17640 ?? I 0:00.28 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http 17697 ?? I 0:00.28 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http 17725 ?? I 0:00.13 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http 17763 ?? I 0:00.09 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http 17783 ?? I 0:00.06 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http 29753 ?? Ss 0:52.03 /usr/local/etc/httpd/src/httpd -f /usr/local/etc/http > i don't > believe daemons have PIDs ... It's not a question of belief, it's a fact that they do. > i'd like to know why daemons are special, They aren't. > ie, why can't they > be binaries that can be started & stopped like any other process? They are. > please forgive me if i'm being ignorant! You're forgiven. ;) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Finger jacko@onyx.xtalwind.net or jack@xtalwind.net http://www.xtalwind.net/~jacko/pubpgp.html #include for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD --------------------------------------------------------------------------