From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 18:56:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF7FD68D for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F5D4C5B for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id b13so8476707qcw.0 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 10:56:37 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vg34Tbfsm7U4dXoU3EzBV1QwMS9U8HOrSEQPbWdmMsg=; b=ERof//GSGjyzdOpyTXi5h+Nj7yAz1ey4FZYVXEhP2Kw4HwCpi7xrp6EvW+4vXtbo6a fkx8Kla6Xu3zs/pcLS8hKtwV+Zho8RpFwl5eW8h3w8iBX8YQWZsFYrsKyAKHRewPSoVm ejylMZwvtkqxxYCAo7UY7IelBXzN2lziXCzK1B7uDkGn8bS9nqbuS4tcoF0OqXGDc+Mx qnyvnXB6NNw2duHZBihFCkwsRG+ZQ+tc6QN8BvoAuyl90UiSKDIh0pA+/udzSLW2MwU+ RMI5D8EJCAbXrILER2kar8jdLkMP78C56692AA7l1Iuln58uMY84xZMvRs43ChWqtbJY XsXA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlYSWyMQ92p3x+8XR8daNopm7XiY5MpAqx8xi4E+QdDDYQaQ/gBRLqXsjY5DxRxyzRdUcM5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.79.82 with SMTP id o18mr43473890qak.3.1422294890407; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.21.163 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:54:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:54:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: preferred jail management tool From: Alejandro Imass To: Sean Chittenden Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: jail@freebsd.org, "Michael W. Lucas" X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:56:45 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Sean Chittenden wrote: > Well this is a rather trendy topic of late and timely. I'm very happy to > see a renaissance and renewed interest in container administration for > FreeBSD. > > [...] > For years I've used and endorsed ezjail, but as stated, it is depreciated. > For a book, excluding ezjail would exclude a huge portion of the user base > and seems like it would hurt credibility given its dominance as the > preferred tool for jail administration. > Maybe is something obvious to the more technical crowd but as a user what does "depreciated" mean in this context? If it's "loosing value" how is this determined? by whom? or it being phased-out replaced by other tools? Or is this based on your evaluation? If so can you specify what is specifically missing/outdated/not maintained from EzJail, or is the whole jail system going in a direction to make EzJail and other tools obsolete? Thanks for any clarification! -- Alejandro Imass