From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 24 15:17:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DBD16A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:17:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7B743D1D for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.1.7]) (authenticated bits=0)j0OFHIHo052627 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:17:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0OFGEU3042356 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:16:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0OFGDTp020336; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:16:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0OFGDCx020335; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:16:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:16:13 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-ID: <20050124151612.GC628@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20050124083043.GA8729@kukulies.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050124083043.GA8729@kukulies.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.2-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Report: * -4.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on cicely12.cicely.de cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ttyd0/cuad0 - why is there still this duality ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:17:23 -0000 On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 09:30:43AM +0100, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > Just a question. Maybe it isn't true but to me it seems there > is still this duality between ttyd and cuad serial devices. > > Why is that? I'm just asking because someone I was talking with > about modems an comm programs was 'criticising' this fact > in FreeBSD "while other systems long have abandoned this dualism"? Because modems are still used for dial-in and dial-out. tty handing out to getty and cua to the dial out process. Moreover this handling was recently added for usb serials under -current. If other systems loose features - well it's their problem. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de