From owner-freebsd-pf@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 27 03:09:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4190106566B for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wrelam@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC438FC17 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbc12 with SMTP id c12so1420191bkb.13 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:09:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8i1iGwYngNzo6X3m3yN8i8uJVXmHvbUqfK6t8VHeVfg=; b=C4UKmVFNUEc73yuhsuul5GPGvFwFfwsJCe/eWq2FGQWmLLOVphR5DVVmBkL69Ncg7U AU2AbsxHxbarq+kGEotNXpYkQJ/AMmn0NNnOM0JRIkIU977KxYFIM1U7rWPZZOQdfSvL FKr0llfND75sm5to9O6o8Lzkl6so5gw4U0Eho= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.16.136 with SMTP id o8mr2250416bka.119.1327633761966; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.60.7 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:09:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9EB23F6C23A8B6488E8BCC92A48E832612E69663C6@PEMEXMBXVS04.jellyfishnet.co.uk.local> References: <9EB23F6C23A8B6488E8BCC92A48E832612A5BC03A9@PEMEXMBXVS04.jellyfishnet.co.uk.local> <20120126235543.GA38187@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <9EB23F6C23A8B6488E8BCC92A48E832612E69663C6@PEMEXMBXVS04.jellyfishnet.co.uk.local> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:09:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Walt Elam To: Greg Hennessy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-pf@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Getting Involved X-BeenThere: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion and general questions about packet filter \(pf\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:09:23 -0000 Peter, thanks for your incredible detailed reply. That's exactly what I was looking for. I figure I would download all of the OpenBSD code, but does anyone have any pointers as to what parts of OpenBSD have the pf code? I suppose I could e-mail the original PF list to figure that out though. Thanks On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Greg Hennessy wrote: > Hi Peter, > > That doesn't sound unreasonable, bearing in mind how much we all $ENJOY > using the operating system precisely because the interfaces are defined and > stable between major releases. > I would not have expected PF 4.7 and above to be backported. > > Reading between the lines of earlier posts I was getting the impression > that in case of PF it had been decided to set the 4.5 version of PF in > stone for now and ever more in FreeBSD. > Could be the wrong end of the stick on my part though. > ________________________________________ > From: owner-freebsd-pf@freebsd.org [owner-freebsd-pf@freebsd.org] On > Behalf Of Peter Jeremy [peterjeremy@acm.org] > Sent: 27 January 2012 10:55 > To: Walt Elam > Cc: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Getting Involved > > [SNIP] > > The whole problem is that the new syntax is not backward compatible > with the old syntax. There has recently been a fairly long thread in > -hackers discussing (in part) the need for long-term stability of > interfaces. The FreeBSD Project offers interface stability within > major versions, therefore an incompatible change in PF syntax could > not be introduced into any FreeBSD-9 or earlier branch. > > It would seem a reasonable goal to port pf 4.7 (or later) into -current > so it will form part of 10.x but I can't see it appearing in 9.x. > > -- > Peter Jeremy >