From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Apr 27 18:16:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CC937BC03 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:16:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA06506 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 03:16:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id DAA02570 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 03:16:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDFC37B5A9; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:13:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id SAA09370; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:12:18 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda09368; Thu Apr 27 18:12:06 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA07709; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdrS7707; Thu Apr 27 18:11:46 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.10.1/8.9.1) id e3S1Bil36893; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004280111.e3S1Bil36893@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdS36885; Thu Apr 27 18:11:43 2000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-Sender: cy To: "Paul Richards.width" Cc: Greg Lehey , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Chuck Robey , Robert Watson , FreeBSD Committers Subject: Re: How about building modules along with the kernel? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons/fire fire_saver.c src/sys/modules/syscons/rain rain_saver.c src/sys/modules/syscons/warp warp_saver.c) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:13:56 BST." <3906CF74.1AEBFD09@originative.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:11:43 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3906CF74.1AEBFD09@originative.co.uk>, "Paul Richards.width" writes: > Greg Lehey wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, 25 April 2000 at 23:40:16 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 11:48:27PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > > >> Tell you what. Let the discussion carry on. If there's no movement by > > >> Friday, I'll stick the offer back up. I just want to insure that it > > >> doesn't die (again) by being stuck onto a proposal for too grand a desig > n. > > > > > > The discussion should be moved to freebsd-arch then. > > > > > > FOLLOWS UP DIRECTED THERE. PLEASE *REMOVE* cvs-all & cvs-committers from > > > this thread. > > > > In theory, that's all well and good. But look what wc -l tells me: > > > > 679 cvs-all > > 1739 freebsd-current > > 481 freebsd-arch > > > > cvs-all doesn't appear to be a real mailing list, be we all know that > > there are about 200 people there. That means nearly 900 people on the > > (mutually exclusive) cvs lists, at least another 800 over in -current, > > less than 500 in -arch. You can't force a committer to join -arch, > > which is why I still prefer -committers. > > But the reason that not all committers join arch is because not all > committers are "arch" hackers. The committers list includes ports people > and docs people. The -arch list is the correct place for this discussion > and the sort of people interested in it will be over there. > > There used to be (still is but everyone ignores it) a policy that > discussions should not take place on any committers lists because they > are for the notification of commits and nothing more. There are a myriad > other lists for holding technical discussions. Two points: 1. If architectural discussions take place on -committers, non-committers should be allowed to join and contribute. 2. Mailing lists like the Tru64-UNIX list disallow replies. You can ask a question and can send a summary of private replies. I belive all they do is key on "re:" in the subject line. Would this be an option for -committers? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message