From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 18:56:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300FF16A420; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:56:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8AE43D8C; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:56:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.16.62]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ERa9u-00005Z-Ge; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:56:32 +0100 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ERa9l-000141-Vc; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:56:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:56:21 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: Vizion In-Reply-To: <200510170844.06438.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Message-ID: References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> <20051017153024.GA23494@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr> <200510170844.06438.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Jan Grant X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Wes Peters , freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, Norikatsu Shigemura , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , Herve Quiroz , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:56:34 -0000 On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Vizion wrote: > You guys just do not get it. > > I have spent over 45 five years in the computer industry and am fed up with > technologists who think in terms of their precious systems rather than on > behalf of people that use them. This is an open-source project; patches speak louder than words. There is a process outlined in the porters' handbook (that I've pointed you at before) for getting ports system rejigs to even be considered. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/makefile-categories.html#PROPOSING-CATEGORIES (Given the ability of existing tools to search for ports in "half-assed" virtual categories, I think you overstate your case.) Cheers, jan -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44 (0)117 3317661 http://ioctl.org/jan/ HP-unix: Open Sauce product, available in 57 distributions.