Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 17:05:51 +0200 From: Gerhard Schmidt <schmidt@ze.tum.de> To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" <steve@sohara.org>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No Extended Support Version right now? Message-ID: <483341c7-9494-8fbc-e981-5cc31c211d32@ze.tum.de> In-Reply-To: <20180809124130.f0137d22f0634f289f0cf4c3@sohara.org> References: <f76c72f0-449b-91e8-b46f-55e9d931d8fc@ze.tum.de> <f6fdd99b-4975-59f3-e0e6-399fb3ad089a@netfence.it> <20180809124130.f0137d22f0634f289f0cf4c3@sohara.org>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --5KxKSrZev5LGSu5BK7JUJFy5iQ9Eh7orX Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="RC3gAJ4NZxk1MW1BPFr1Vgu4R4BGSvf2P"; protected-headers="v1" From: Gerhard Schmidt <schmidt@ze.tum.de> To: Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <483341c7-9494-8fbc-e981-5cc31c211d32@ze.tum.de> Subject: Re: No Extended Support Version right now? References: <f76c72f0-449b-91e8-b46f-55e9d931d8fc@ze.tum.de> <f6fdd99b-4975-59f3-e0e6-399fb3ad089a@netfence.it> <20180809124130.f0137d22f0634f289f0cf4c3@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20180809124130.f0137d22f0634f289f0cf4c3@sohara.org> --RC3gAJ4NZxk1MW1BPFr1Vgu4R4BGSvf2P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 09.08.2018 um 13:41 schrieb Steve O'Hara-Smith: > On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 09:48:19 +0200 > Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> wrote: >=20 >> Unfortunately it seems "extended support" is gone, so no further relea= se=20 >> (11.x or whatever) will be such. >=20 > Given that 11 will last five years and it is likely that 11.<last> > will come out well within that period I would say than N.<last> is as L= TS > as it gets. Sorry didn't get what you tried to say. I don't see that 11.<last> will be out that much before the 5 years are up. FreeBSD tends to do releases long after the next major is released. 10.4 got released 1 month after 11.1. Even if that will be so in the future right now we have the problem that we have to upgrade all systems currently running 10.4 to 11.2 and the ones already running 11.1 two because 11.2 is the only release out there with more then 3 month support. I never updated to a Version before least 2 Month (mostly I waited 3 Month) after the Release to be sure every minor issue was fixed. Now i have to go to mainly unproven releases just to stay supported for Security updates. Let's go to the future. FreeBSD does a new major release every 2 to 3 Years and does a minor release every year. Even if the don't do a minor after the new major is released, you have a maximum of 2 years on the last release. And at the end of that period the latest release of the new Major isn't there yet. So you have to update again to a release that only has roughly a year and 3 month of support left. I the past we updated mostly when the new extended support release was 3 to 6 month old. The new model gives no way of knowing if the version I'm updating to, will be supported for longer than 1 year. So nobody can do a serious resource planning other than planning an update every year. This raises the cost of using FreeBSD considerably. Regards Estartu --RC3gAJ4NZxk1MW1BPFr1Vgu4R4BGSvf2P-- --5KxKSrZev5LGSu5BK7JUJFy5iQ9Eh7orX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEPVa8SM32TGPJTcIIdNJDzEVwDaMFAlttqdIACgkQdNJDzEVw DaP2Cg//WFe3q9MMv4/tkHYU7jEqld71Yscwatnfk5ADJhvG/WQlDxbDlBNkDug2 tV83u+mI+VEib7nseUHeDh2O0lo9PsRQ9IfpAqhO0/r4H4sdGHyDdE+J3TtXES2y oDBGyj/pf8AXtKVVBxygSReRocV4I744f9t8iVbWGDh+ZC4Qh1F7S2e7VGYq0RDD Rv/ewYe8ONwJnqqK1o1fQ2tXmjw4pudHqRYKg5y9YDy6+rjvhNWQdD+QYT+Wim9j AaviXM5GByLpO6ae13mFldcmDxIEOlw80bKxKBPfzufdcrCtY2cvbY3KNxwqjSmb x/rHu/juSHmAPGkitEAaP+YlzPwnOPM3+0kpYS8tXY3MNM+WlbX3sh/tsryr3/3M G/S4IgmcIAE8d6H9aaa5VoVQgRfbKTaA7tGIJ6TV8XjmaDbCjuPiaQXzGrG6N5oq CtV6iXRaJfLYhzmPDsmtSH2Pi0vm9miIqR3kKKlXfynYcknD2JddKTK5sBTl/erD MWT4jXjRWdYRDHxCi8gvHuPIquQ/286WwLaEoKUEPkVSBIrSIPOezIWNLt+KpFF8 vqEuO9SS/BpUGEalf3goIf27ipKzoqmU4XOFP1tGmT+FAZNw1XW2S0vmhN8bHT+l olX/HlGD5uYk2rnEfyhhe2i/FzWG+pbyDFbzmiDI6NBWco0GLBI= =lhFo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5KxKSrZev5LGSu5BK7JUJFy5iQ9Eh7orX--
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