Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 19:56:34 -0400 From: Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> To: Dewayne Geraghty <dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Update 11.3 > 11.4 Message-ID: <CAGBxaXnyf8x0D2_2iP=eqA8=2f7eWH6nfcQJ6EsSU0eh%2BRr=AQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <657e8e9c-dc34-ec10-9c3d-6471b07c9142@heuristicsystems.com.au> References: <20200617134146.00004ce8@seibercom.net> <CAGBxaXmN0wAhZq36H7y7H8f2qnCrjFyos9vPf_em47KCL2TvLA@mail.gmail.com> <20200617165853.000070ca@seibercom.net> <CAGBxaXn-WzZ_J8Ec=FaetqF-p4=dZtWU=b1rgipvs8MD0wsEjA@mail.gmail.com> <20200617195705.000069f0@seibercom.net> <CAGBxaXkvj6aMQeQ2mScsB6VsGye-Y%2BZ7WDp=q48uS6uCZ2vrVg@mail.gmail.com> <20200618071456.00004fdd@seibercom.net> <20200618134732.48b4c316.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200618083645.00001afc@seibercom.net> <CAGBxaX=nNL8VuM6bsdHjoVWxYZKF5hE3NDjrCUjdAT=y2kj5LA@mail.gmail.com> <941386f3-ce71-6cf6-005c-ab9c159ce998@heuristicsystems.com.au> <20200618184438.00003f41@seibercom.net> <CAGBxaXmSvj7gb_-s1nbCtWhAwFC49dSTG01v=jy9Whv3_WEXGw@mail.gmail.com> <20200619072002.4179e527@scorpio.seibercom.net> <657e8e9c-dc34-ec10-9c3d-6471b07c9142@heuristicsystems.com.au>
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On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 7:29 PM Dewayne Geraghty < dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au> wrote: > Looking carefully at the PR, it seems that the view is that this is > either a ACPI or BIOS issue of particular DELL equipment, and folks with > fingers on the code can't reproduce due to lack of equipment. > It should be noted that name brand hardware is often less "standard" then generic hardware (and/or DIY name brand components) and thus it quite likely that ***IF*** it is a problem with your machine that it due to Dell being less standard then some random motherboard/BIOS pairing. Dell and other name brand PC makers often do this to "differentiate" their machine from competitors (something you claimed is a good thing and a good aspect of capitalism -- competition is good but breaking standards is not). Given all that and the fact that the developers can't test on Dell hardware means you being worse than unhelpful to any effort to fix the issue you are in fact actively harming any progress on the PR by not at least attempting to make it work. But, by your own logic why should you Dell after all refused to give you free equipment to try it on (that sounds pretty socialist/communist to me if you are using the terms as put downs), at the least it doesn't sound very capitalistic! -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org
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