Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:23:40 -0800 From: Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Upcoming Releases Message-ID: <DE7BAC1A-0B40-4B2A-861A-6AE7B16FAC0D@lafn.org> In-Reply-To: <20160305181742.9c3abe96.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <EEFD0376-2038-4801-9A7A-BF342B66F029@lafn.org> <20160305181742.9c3abe96.freebsd@edvax.de>
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> On 5 March 2016, at 09:17, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: >=20 > On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:58:20 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: >> I am running a number of 9.3 systems and am planning the next >> system update for them. As my client schedules have evolved, >> it now turns out that about the only time I will be able to >> bring them down for an update will be in June 2016. I suspect >> the next available time will be in June 2017. >=20 > Your maintenance schedule is out of sync with the FreeBSD release > schedule. :-) Yes - but unfortunately I would have to change the schedules for a = number of schools to change my maintenance schedule. I don't see that = happening in the foreseeable future. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> The release schedules indicate that 10.3 will be out by this >> June but 11.0 will not. Back when 10.0 arrived, I decided to >> skip it as there were issues that would require rework of my >> applications both for 10 and then again for 11. Unfortunately, >> I didn't bother to document those and my memory of the specific >> issues is long gone. >=20 > In this case, there's a nice mechanism that let's you keep your > installed applications running without modification: Install the > compatibility packages (compat9x-[i386|amd64] on 10, and similarly > on 11). But be careful: It doesn't work all the time! Testing is > required. And as soon as you start upgrading installed applications, > the _real_ will start. :-) >=20 > A new installation on a test system, with a snapshot of the data > required, and with configuration altered as needed, usually is the > most comfortable way to deal with it. If everything works as intended, > it's easy to switch over from 9.3 to 10.3 during the maintenance > period. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> So I am trying to decide to upgrade to 10.3 this year or wait till >> next for 11.0.=20 >=20 > That would leave you with 9.3 being out of support for some time. > Security updates won't be backported, so in worst case, you'd have > to do it yourself (if relevant and urgently required). In such a > case, read the security and announcement mailing lists, and check > the security audits for all your installed applications. Yes it would be unsupported, but it would still be the same system it is = today and functioning properly. By and large the security updates have = not affected what I have running. I have been running since FreeBSD = 2.7. I don't see that as a big issue. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> Is there anywhere a listing of the high level changes from 9 to >> 10 to 11? I know about the switch from GCC to Clang but that's >> all I remember. >=20 > During FreeBSD 9, the transition to pkg and the changes in the ports > architecture happened, but with 9.3, you're probably already using > the current versions. >=20 > You can find more information here: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/announce.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/relnotes.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/errata.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/announce.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/errata.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/announce.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/relnotes.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/errata.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.2R/announce.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.2R/relnotes.html > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.2R/errata.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.3R/schedule.html >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/schedule.html What I was hoping to find was some form of informal, preliminary version = of the release notes or announcements for 10.3 and 11. I seem to recall = some sort of discussion of that back when the decision was made to drop = bind from the base. I wasn't able to find it though. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... =E2=80=94 Doug
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