Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:17:19 -0500 From: Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Is the IT Crowd re-inventing Unix with Virtualization, Docker and Microservices? Message-ID: <da92b729-dac2-4908-1c5a-30f32e3bdd07@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <CACAG1go-_=H4uD=-_vx929-v_pA%2BxPiMDGhqQ%2Bx%2BuObx3qjqRA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAHieY7SsnUAvjbWD00LwWScNy8E3rK6vP0nfTyihWJoSBhW1RA@mail.gmail.com> <6082af1c-1ea4-7180-9621-cc539e8131b2@ShaneWare.Biz> <CACAG1go-_=H4uD=-_vx929-v_pA%2BxPiMDGhqQ%2Bx%2BuObx3qjqRA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 9/13/18 4:04 PM, Makketron wrote: > This is exactly why people get puzzled when they see a person in the team > making a solution over a weekend, with no cost, instead of weeks. > > The irony is, they consider it a temporary solution, a hack so to speak, > until fancier tools are used. > > Even funnier, when the switch happens, the tools tend to have higher > downtime than a simple UNIX solution. > The whole new dominant way of doing IT sucks. And despite of that I still have my job. I converted it from my usual: all systems suck, and thanks to that I have my job. Valeri > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 12:16 AM Shane Ambler <FreeBSD@shaneware.biz> wrote: > >> On 12/9/18 4:40 am, Alejandro Imass wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I guess it's time for another food for thought email of like-minded >>> FreeBSDers, as I am coming to a new conclusion about this whole >> enterprise >>> crap world of which I am so evermore fed up of... >>> >>> Oh yeah, that's right, high-level guys are too expensive? really? >> compared >>> to what? to the dozens and dozens of mediocre "coders", "devops", >>> "techops"and whatever other "ops". Yeah, we are way more expensive but we >>> are 50:1, maybe 100:1 compared the median in the "enterprise" side of >>> things. >> >> Good tech guys who know what to do don't use enough new fancy tech. It's >> all about the buzzwords, the more your product uses the more money you >> get to build it. The more layers, the more complex, the more people dumb >> CEOs need to pay to setup and maintain it, but it has to be using the >> newest, flashiest tech. If you have used the stuff before you need to go >> and make a new one or two for the next project. One good guy can't >> support an enterprise, it needs to be a group of dimwits that band >> together and cover each others f*ups to support an enterprise. >> >> I recall the Y2K bug, a well known telco employed about 80 people to >> walk around to every desktop computer and manually run some script off a >> server that checked installed programs and updated each one. >> >> Well this telco has software installed on every desktop that allowed one >> person to access every machine in the country, show reports of software >> and versions installed, install, update or remotely control the GUI >> desktop. The team I was on completed our two months work the first week, >> so we got to use this to manually do the stupid steps on machines in >> other states, after someone there had walked around to turn machines on. >> >> It was all about one guy coming up with something that sounded complex >> enough that the CEO can't understand but had enough buzzwords and parts >> that it must be the solution to this dreaded Y2K problem. >> >> >> -- >> FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing >> >> Shane Ambler >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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