From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 25 11:41:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA13770 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from saguaro.flyingfox.com (saguaro.flyingfox.com [204.188.109.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13765 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:41:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jas@localhost) by saguaro.flyingfox.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id LAA04980; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:39:39 -0800 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:39:39 -0800 From: Jim Shankland Message-Id: <199602251939.LAA04980@saguaro.flyingfox.com> To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee Subject: Re: 3COM 509 NICs Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Narvi stands accused of saying: > > A friend of mine wants to set up a FreeBSD box as a router > > between 4 ethernets and planns to use 3COM 509 NICs. As I'm the > > only one who has used FreeBSD round here, he asked me. So, can > > anyone point out any troubles I will immedeately fall into? Will > > the 3COM cards give any performance gains over NE2000 compatibles > > (there is that unresolved reference to buggyness)? > > I'd be inclined to suggest NE2000's. PIO to/from the card notwithstanding, > the ed driver is very efficient, and NE2000 clones are very cheap. > > Whilst I'm sure there are plenty of '509's out there working just fine, > there have been enough unhappy stories about them that I'd be discouraged. Another data point: I have precisely this configuration (4 3C509's in a FreeBSD box functioning as a router), and it has worked flawlessly. We keep those 4 Ethernets pretty busy, too. Jim Shankland Flying Fox Computer Systems, Inc. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 25 13:07:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA19447 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA19442 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA09024; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 14:06:25 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 14:06:25 -0700 (MST) From: Stephen Fisher To: Jim Shankland cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee, hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 3COM 509 NICs In-Reply-To: <199602251939.LAA04980@saguaro.flyingfox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Speaking of which, last night when playing with the kernel compile on my home test machine I saw that it said 3c509 ethernet card support is still buggy. I agree with this in that it only finds my 3c509 (the generic kernel) half the time when booting that machine. I was about to grab a 3c509 for my new server... a PCI card.. are the 3com PCI cards 3c509 or something else? On Sun, 25 Feb 1996, Jim Shankland wrote: > > Narvi stands accused of saying: > > > A friend of mine wants to set up a FreeBSD box as a router > > > between 4 ethernets and planns to use 3COM 509 NICs. As I'm the > > > only one who has used FreeBSD round here, he asked me. So, can > > > anyone point out any troubles I will immedeately fall into? Will > > > the 3COM cards give any performance gains over NE2000 compatibles > > > (there is that unresolved reference to buggyness)? > > > > I'd be inclined to suggest NE2000's. PIO to/from the card notwithstanding, > > the ed driver is very efficient, and NE2000 clones are very cheap. > > > > Whilst I'm sure there are plenty of '509's out there working just fine, > > there have been enough unhappy stories about them that I'd be discouraged. > > Another data point: I have precisely this configuration (4 3C509's in > a FreeBSD box functioning as a router), and it has worked flawlessly. > We keep those 4 Ethernets pretty busy, too. > > Jim Shankland > Flying Fox Computer Systems, Inc. > From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 26 01:19:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA06432 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA06426 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 01:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA04075; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:18:40 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:18:39 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: Stephen Fisher cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3COM 509 NICs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 25 Feb 1996, Stephen Fisher wrote: > Speaking of which, last night when playing with the kernel compile on my > home test machine I saw that it said 3c509 ethernet card support is still > buggy. I agree with this in that it only finds my 3c509 (the generic > kernel) half the time when booting that machine. I was about to grab a > 3c509 for my new server... a PCI card.. are the 3com PCI cards 3c509 or > something else? > 3COM calls their PCI version of 509 3COM590.... (there are several versions, a combo, a 10BaseT, and even a fast ethernet variant) but I can't say anything about support - at least the 2.1.0-RELEASE doesn't. (Tried it out - then switched to DC21040). Sander From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 26 07:55:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA26954 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:55:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA26947 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA01208 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 16:57:33 +0100 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 16:57:33 +0100 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199602261557.QAA01208@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: notebook Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Some recommendations on what notebook to buy on which I can run FreeBSD (color, X11). I'm thinking of better rez than 640x480, a P90. Ethernet and SCSI. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 26 08:50:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA00427 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00422 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA29621; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:51:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:51:28 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199602261651.JAA29621@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: notebook In-Reply-To: <199602261557.QAA01208@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <199602261557.QAA01208@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Some recommendations on what notebook to buy on which I can > run FreeBSD (color, X11). I'm thinking of better rez than > 640x480, a P90. Ethernet and SCSI. I have a IBM ThinkPad 755CX sitting next to me that's very nice, and my NEC Versa P/75 (I finally got back permanently last week) that's also very nice. Given a preference, I would opt for the 755CX since it's a bit smaller, lighter, and much more rugged. However, you'll pay big $$ for it, but it's *really* worth it IMHO. I also haven't run XFree86 on it, although the chipset is supported. Any of the newer ThinkPad are very nice, but I have only tested the above model. Also, the Versa P model is no longer being made, and has been replaced by the NEC 4000 series. Although I haven't tested FreeBSD on it, I suspect it will work. All of the above models are a bit spendy, but given your requirements above I guess you figured that out. Make sure to get the SVGA model which gives you > 640x480 (currently the state of the art is 800x600). As far as ethernet goes, I used to recommend the 3Com cards, but apparently they've changed things in recent 3C589C models so they no longe work with our if_zp driver, and I haven't had much luck contacting the PC-CARD folks since they've apparently have a working driver for the new cards but the fix hasn't made it into our driver yet. So, I would go with the IBM Credit Card adapter for ethernet if I were going to buy one today simply because it has known support in FreeBSD right now. Nate From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 26 11:41:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA10720 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10715 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA141253666; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:41:10 -0800 Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA062983665; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:41:05 -0800 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA001263664; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:41:04 -0800 Message-Id: <199602261941.AA001263664@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISDN Questions In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:47:30 +0100." Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 11:41:04 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Hmmm, but when you use 115.200 bps on the serial port, it can do 11.5 > kbytes per second, even when the serial interface is asynchronous (10 Bits > per byte). And ISDN can only do 8 kBytes per second, assuming you don't use > channel bundling or V.42bis compression or the like. So you don't loose any > throughput when you run an external ISDN adaptor over an async serial line. > All you need is a serial line that is faster than ISDN, then you get the > full troughput. Well, if your ISP supports it, and you've got the money, there's always an Ascend Pipeline 50, which is basically an Ethernet<-->ISDN router. It's basically a LAN router that works over ISDN. To get it to work with FreeBSD, all you need is any FreeBSD-supported LAN card; when you try to access a remote system (via ftp, telnet, http, etc.), the Pipeline 50 automatically connects via ISDN to your ISP and starts routing packets appropriately. Best of all, you don't have to worry about FreeBSD interrupt/driver issues (aside from TCP/IP routing), and more than one system on your LAN can use it, unlike the dedicated "ISDN modems" that connect to a serial port. As you're using your LAN card, getting full bandwidth out of 2B channels is trivial. However, with a street price of around US$1250, it's a bit expensive. For more information, see (scroll down to the section on "Pipeline Product Family"): http://www.ascend.com/products/prodindex.html I've got no connections with Ascend, except as a user. [ Note: the Ascend Pipeline 25 might be a significantly cheaper solution (as opposed to the Pipeline 50), but I don't know, as I've never used it. ] -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 26 18:03:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA08842 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:03:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.32.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA08835 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.4Wbeta3) id LAA16913; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:02:21 +0900 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:02:21 +0900 Message-Id: <199602270202.LAA16913@frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: nate@sri.MT.net Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: notebook In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:51:28 -0700. <199602261651.JAA29621@rocky.sri.MT.net> From: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.18PL3] 1994-08/01(Mon) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In article <199602261651.JAA29621@rocky.sri.MT.net> nate@sri.MT.net writes: >> As far as ethernet goes, I used to recommend the 3Com cards, but >> apparently they've changed things in recent 3C589C models so they no >> longe work with our if_zp driver, and I haven't had much luck contacting >> the PC-CARD folks since they've apparently have a working driver for the >> new cards but the fix hasn't made it into our driver yet. Sorry! if_zp can drive 3c589C with this patch. *** if_zp.c.orig Thu Feb 22 12:14:28 1996 --- if_zp.c Thu Feb 22 12:15:21 1996 *************** *** 534,541 **** --- 534,543 ---- #else pcic_map_memory(slot, 0, kvtop(isa_dev->id_maddr), 0x10000, 8L, ATTRIBUTE, 1); + #if 0 POKE(isa_dev->id_maddr, 0x80); /* reset the card (how long?) */ DELAY(40000); + #endif #endif /* * Set the configuration index. According to [1], the adapter won't >> So, I would go with the IBM Credit Card adapter for ethernet if I were >> going to buy one today simply because it has known support in FreeBSD >> right now. IBM Credit Card Ethenet is expensive and it's not so fast. My recommendation is 3C589[BC] w/ pccard-test driver. It's too fast and it costs reasonable price. -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi E-mail: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp WWW homepage: http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/hosokawa.html Department of Computer Science, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 26 20:22:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA21028 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21005 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA02557; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 21:23:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 21:23:37 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199602270423.VAA02557@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) Cc: nate@sri.MT.net, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: notebook In-Reply-To: <199602270202.LAA16913@frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> References: <199602261651.JAA29621@rocky.sri.MT.net> <199602270202.LAA16913@frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >> As far as ethernet goes, I used to recommend the 3Com cards, but > >> apparently they've changed things in recent 3C589C models so they no > >> longe work with our if_zp driver, and I haven't had much luck contacting > >> the PC-CARD folks since they've apparently have a working driver for the > >> new cards but the fix hasn't made it into our driver yet. > > Sorry! if_zp can drive 3c589C with this patch. > > *** if_zp.c.orig Thu Feb 22 12:14:28 1996 > --- if_zp.c Thu Feb 22 12:15:21 1996 > *************** > *** 534,541 **** > --- 534,543 ---- > #else > pcic_map_memory(slot, 0, kvtop(isa_dev->id_maddr), 0x10000, 8L, > ATTRIBUTE, 1); > + #if 0 > POKE(isa_dev->id_maddr, 0x80); /* reset the card (how long?) */ > DELAY(40000); > + #endif > #endif > /* > * Set the configuration index. According to [1], the adapter won't Thank you. Can someone with a 3C589C test this change, so I can put it into the tree? I'll test it to make sure it doesn't break my 3C589B as well. > >> So, I would go with the IBM Credit Card adapter for ethernet if I were > >> going to buy one today simply because it has known support in FreeBSD > >> right now. > > IBM Credit Card Ethenet is expensive and it's not so fast. My > recommendation is 3C589[BC] w/ pccard-test driver. It's too fast and > it costs reasonable price. I agree, but until we get the pccard stuff working (hint hint) it's not a solution. :) Thanks for the patch! Nate From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 28 01:25:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA25130 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 01:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from newton.Space.net (root@newton.space.net [194.59.182.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA25114 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 01:24:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from nasim.camelot.de ([194.97.87.2]) by newton.Space.NET with SMTP id <82495-2>; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:24:39 +0100 Received: from lancelot.camelot.de by nasim.camelot.de with smtp (Smail3.1.29.0 #1) id m0tri7c-0007PmC; Wed, 28 Feb 96 10:24 MET Received: (from news@localhost) by lancelot.camelot.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA29123; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:24:31 +0100 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: knarf@camelot.de (Frank Bartels) Newsgroups: muc.lists.freebsd.hardware Subject: Rebooting a SP3G Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:24:30 +0100 Organization: Camelot Online Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4h170e$q57@lancelot.camelot.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lancelot.camelot.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950726BETA PL0] Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have problems rebooting any of my machines which have a ASUS SP3G board in it: Syncing disks...done. Rebooting. [hangs forever :/] Using BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET does not help. What else can I do? Bye, Knarf -- Frank Bartels |UUCP/ZModem/Fax: + 49 89 5469593| "Captain, why not just knarf@camelot.de | http://www.camelot.de/~knarf/ | give the Borg Windows?" From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 28 05:49:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA09179 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 05:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from s1.GANet.NET ([199.18.201.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA09174 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 05:49:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ec0@localhost) by s1.GANet.NET (8.6.11/8.6.11) id IAA14261; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:47:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:47:58 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Chet To: Frank Bartels cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Rebooting a SP3G In-Reply-To: <4h170e$q57@lancelot.camelot.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello Add the option BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET in your kernel. Peace, -- ejc work: ejc@nasvr1.cb.att.com home: ec0@ganet.net On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Frank Bartels wrote: > Hi, > > I have problems rebooting any of my machines which have a ASUS SP3G board > in it: > > Syncing disks...done. > Rebooting. > [hangs forever :/] > > Using BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET does not help. What else can I do? > > Bye, > Knarf > -- > Frank Bartels |UUCP/ZModem/Fax: + 49 89 5469593| "Captain, why not just > knarf@camelot.de | http://www.camelot.de/~knarf/ | give the Borg Windows?" > From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 28 08:08:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA18091 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:08:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18086 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:07:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA17222; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:07:19 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199602281607.IAA17222@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Rebooting a SP3G To: knarf@camelot.de (Frank Bartels) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:07:19 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4h170e$q57@lancelot.camelot.de> from "Frank Bartels" at Feb 28, 96 10:24:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > > I have problems rebooting any of my machines which have a ASUS SP3G board > in it: > > Syncing disks...done. > Rebooting. > [hangs forever :/] Which revision of the SP3G do you have? This will be printed on the board near the PCI/I-486SP3G label. Also, which revision of the BIOS are you running? This is the number right above the memory counter just after a power on reset. > Using BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET does not help. What else can I do? Ohh.. hummm.. other thing that I have seen cause this.. what CPU chip are you using? Intel/AMD DX/DX2/DX4/ODPR 25/50/80/100/120/133? -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 28 14:58:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA23986 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 14:58:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23964 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 14:57:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQaexv12529; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from uanet.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:57:49 -0500 Received: by crocodil.monolit.kiev.ua; Thu, 29 Feb 96 00:56:02 +0200 Received: (from dk@localhost) by rock.lot.kiev.ua (8.6.11/dk#3) id OAA05835 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 14:18:50 +0200 From: Dmitry Kohmanyuk Message-Id: <199602281218.OAA05835@rock.lot.kiev.ua> Subject: NE2000 compat Ether in Dauphin Notebook To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:18:50 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22 dk9] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hi guys, I have a Dauphin notebook (Cyrix 486, 6M RAM), and want to have real OS on it (bundled Pen Windoze doesn't count ;-). It has a internal Ethernet card, which docs claims to be built around NS DP83905 chip, with TP connector. The setup program allows to set 16 or 64 K on-board memory; I use 16K. The packet sniffer supplied in the setup program works fine ;-), so I am sure the card and wires are ok. I have tried hard to make diskless boot working on it (I have put debug printfs there, changed the probing code to the liking of if_ed.c, etc.) - it still hangs. Yesterday, I have successfully installed Novell Netware on it using its own ODI driver; apparently, when running packet driver after loading LSL, the system hangs hard after several seconds (needs a reset). Does this sound like a familiar thing to someone? thanks, Dmitry. From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 29 06:08:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA11971 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 06:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA11964 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 06:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA17855 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org); Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:07:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199602291407.AA17855@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 15:07:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: knarf@camelot.de (Frank Bartels) "Rebooting a SP3G" (Feb 28, 10:24) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: knarf@camelot.de (Frank Bartels) Subject: Re: Rebooting a SP3G Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Feb 28, 10:24, Frank Bartels wrote: } Subject: Rebooting a SP3G } Hi, } } I have problems rebooting any of my machines which have a ASUS SP3G board } in it: } } Syncing disks...done. } Rebooting. } [hangs forever :/] } } Using BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET does not help. What else can I do? IT DOES! :) Well, at least on my SP3G, which suffered from the same problem before I added that config option ... Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 29 10:29:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA28166 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:29:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com ([198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA28145 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA00641; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:25:44 -0800 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199602291825.KAA00641@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Rebooting a SP3G To: se@ZPR.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser) Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:25:44 -0800 (PST) Cc: knarf@camelot.de, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602291407.AA17855@Sysiphos> from "Stefan Esser" at Feb 29, 96 03:07:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > On Feb 28, 10:24, Frank Bartels wrote: > } Subject: Rebooting a SP3G > } Hi, > } > } I have problems rebooting any of my machines which have a ASUS SP3G board > } in it: > } > } Syncing disks...done. > } Rebooting. > } [hangs forever :/] > } > } Using BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET does not help. What else can I do? > > IT DOES! :) Unfortantly it does not on revision 1.6 and below of the PCI/I-486SP3G, as those boards are very broken in respect to both a triple fault shutdown and they keyboard reset logic :-(. > Well, at least on my SP3G, which suffered > from the same problem before I added that > config option ... Also true for many other Saturn-II based boards. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Mar 2 21:23:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA14238 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from fore.com (relay.fore.com [169.144.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14229 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from dolphin.fore.com (dolphin.fore.com [169.144.1.16]) by fore.com (8.7.3/8.6.11) with ESMTP id AAA07474; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 00:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from lamprey.fore.com (lamprey.fore.com [169.144.1.254]) by dolphin.fore.com (8.7.3/3.4W4) with SMTP id AAA28524; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 00:22:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603030522.AAA28524@dolphin.fore.com> X-Authentication-Warning: dolphin.fore.com: Host lamprey.fore.com [169.144.1.254] didn't use HELO protocol To: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) cc: pvds@IAEhv.nl (pieter van der steen), hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD doesnt see NCR 53C810 SCSI controller In-reply-to: Message from se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) of "Fri, 26 Jan 1996 00:57:23 +0100." <199601252357.AA20855@Sysiphos> Reply-to: rv@fore.com X-Mailer: MH v6.8.3 Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 00:22:14 -0500 From: Rajesh Vaidheeswarran Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I have a similar problem. A PCI/EISA combo bus on a Dell Omniplex 466, houses an NCR 53C810 SCSI controller, and a 3c509 is sitting on the EISA. The freebsd 2.1.0 boot doesnt recognise the 3c509 sitting on the EISA bus of the PCI/EISA combo, though it does recognise the NCR and the SCSI disk on it. Any help/advice/suggestions will be appreciated. thanks rv -- using MH template repl.format -- In a previous message, Stefan Esser writes: > On Jan 25, 23:16, pieter van der steen wrote: > } Subject: FreeBSD doesnt see NCR 53C810 SCSI controller > } Subject: FreeBSD does not recognize NCR 53C810 SCSI controller > } > } I tried to install FreeBSD 2.0.5. When I boot the system from floppy, > } the list of recognized devices (shown during booting) does not contain > } the SCSI controller nor the ethernet controller. > } When the installation menu is shown, the system doesn't know of any > } harddisk in the system (fdisk). > } > } I tried to boot from a 2.1.0 boot floppy: same results. > > Compaq hasn't implemented the configuration space access > registers according to the PCI specs, and this causes no > end of trouble ... > > } I built a kernel on another system, adding some printf's to > } /sys/pci/pcisupp.c in the chipset_probe function. It detects a PCI bus > } but doesnot see any devices on it (as far as I can interpret the code). > > If you can rebuild your kernel (as it appears to be the > case :) please get the file /sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c from > some FreeBSD-current mirror. > > It contains enhanced PCI bus probe, which OUGHT to support > your system. Please let me know if it fails. In this case, > please send all lines starting with "pcibus_setup" from a > VERBOSE boot (i.e. enter "-v" at the "Boot: " prompt). > > Regards, STefan > From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Mar 2 22:03:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA16599 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 22:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA16588 Sat, 2 Mar 1996 22:03:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199603030603.WAA16588@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: rv@fore.com cc: se@ZPR.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser), pvds@IAEhv.nl (pieter van der steen), hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD doesnt see NCR 53C810 SCSI controller In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Mar 1996 00:22:14 EST." <199603030522.AAA28524@dolphin.fore.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 22:03:38 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Hi: > >I have a similar problem. A PCI/EISA combo bus on a Dell Omniplex 466, >houses an NCR 53C810 SCSI controller, and a 3c509 is sitting on the EISA. >The freebsd 2.1.0 boot doesnt recognise the 3c509 sitting on the EISA bus of >the PCI/EISA combo, though it does recognise the NCR and the SCSI disk on >it. Any help/advice/suggestions will be appreciated. Take the 3c509 out of EISA configuration mode and then tell the kernel where it is via userconfig (use the '-c' boot flag). 3c509s in EISA config mode should work (soon) in -current. >thanks > >rv -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations ===========================================