From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Aug 4 09:41:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA13212 for hubs-outgoing; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 09:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anacreon.sol.net (anacreon.sol.net [206.55.64.116]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA13207; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 09:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solaria.sol.net (solaria.sol.net [206.55.65.75]) by anacreon.sol.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA29199; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 11:41:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by solaria.sol.net (8.5/8.5) id LAA18878; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 11:43:32 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199608041643.LAA18878@solaria.sol.net> Subject: Helllp :-) To: jmb@freebsd.org, freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 4 Aug 96 11:43:30 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL65] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Something's changed in the last day or three that's caused the machine hosting mail.freebsd.sol.net some pain and agony... smyrno# ls -l mai* -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 973 Aug 4 02:00 maillog -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 5890048 Aug 3 11:37 maillog.0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 16175138 Aug 3 02:00 maillog.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 16410811 Aug 2 01:59 maillog.2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 12255062 Aug 1 02:00 maillog.3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 11035721 Jul 31 02:00 maillog.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 8996236 Jul 30 02:00 maillog.5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 6475362 Jul 29 02:00 maillog.6 -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 5833580 Jul 28 02:00 maillog.7 The 4-5MB logfile was typically the norm. At 11:37 on Aug 3 the disk filled. I'm going to get another disk (my /var is currently only 100MB) but I was wondering if there was some change made at freebsd.org that caused this. I've noticed little "spikes" like this once or twice before... Just curious, ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Aug 4 17:03:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03539 for hubs-outgoing; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03532; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:03:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199608050003.RAA03532@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Helllp :-) To: jgreco@solaria.sol.net (Joe Greco) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jmb@freebsd.org, freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608041643.LAA18878@solaria.sol.net> from "Joe Greco" at Aug 4, 96 11:43:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joe Greco wrote: > > Something's changed in the last day or three that's caused the machine > hosting mail.freebsd.sol.net some pain and agony... > > smyrno# ls -l mai* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 973 Aug 4 02:00 maillog > -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 5890048 Aug 3 11:37 maillog.0 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 16175138 Aug 3 02:00 maillog.1 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 16410811 Aug 2 01:59 maillog.2 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 12255062 Aug 1 02:00 maillog.3 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 11035721 Jul 31 02:00 maillog.4 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 8996236 Jul 30 02:00 maillog.5 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 6475362 Jul 29 02:00 maillog.6 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 5833580 Jul 28 02:00 maillog.7 > > The 4-5MB logfile was typically the norm. At 11:37 on Aug 3 the disk > filled. > > I'm going to get another disk (my /var is currently only 100MB) but I was > wondering if there was some change made at freebsd.org that caused this. > > I've noticed little "spikes" like this once or twice before... we had a mail surge this week. i got 1600++ bounces yesterday alone. here are some mail stats--first column is addresses, 2nd is messages, third is addrs/msg leaving freefall (this is the effect of bulkmailer by the way). freefall's maillog for jul 31st is 24MB! since 2 am PST (960804): 57788 7805 7.40 Max Total 14667 1014 14.46 26 ns2.harborcom.net. 12450 880 14.15 26 mail.freebsd.sol.net. 7946 927 8.57 21 sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de. 6675 617 10.82 23 halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu. 2887 518 5.57 22 ra.dkuug.dk. 24 hours before 2 am PST (960803): 112839 14651 7.70 Max Total 29095 2136 13.62 26 mail.freebsd.sol.net. 25652 1930 13.29 26 ns2.harborcom.net. 15146 1723 8.79 23 sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de. 13348 1159 11.52 23 halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu. 5449 894 6.10 23 ra.dkuug.dk. back up another 24 hours (960802): 106733 14530 7.35 Max Total 26981 1893 14.25 26 ns2.harborcom.net. 24299 1730 14.05 26 mail.freebsd.sol.net. 12891 1164 11.07 23 halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu. 12846 1538 8.35 21 sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de. 5900 1026 5.75 22 ra.dkuug.dk. again (960801): 175219 22838 7.67 Max Total 36167 2694 13.43 26 ns2.harborcom.net. 35779 2485 14.40 26 mail.freebsd.sol.net. 20682 2521 8.20 23 sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de. 17879 1613 11.08 23 halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu. 17247 1219 14.15 26 ref.tfs.com. 9764 1578 6.19 23 ra.dkuug.dk. again (960731): 134919 17599 7.67 Max Total 27613 1996 13.83 26 ref.tfs.com. 25502 1877 13.59 26 mail.freebsd.sol.net. 16021 2125 7.54 21 sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de. 15649 1364 11.47 23 halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu. 13394 1018 13.16 26 ns2.harborcom.net. 7785 1214 6.41 22 ra.dkuug.dk. again (960730): 152280 20463 7.44 Max Total 29201 2067 14.13 26 ref.tfs.com. 24005 1754 13.69 26 mail.freebsd.sol.net. 22130 1563 14.16 26 ns2.harborcom.net. 18706 2193 8.53 21 sel1.zit.th-darmstadt.de. 16910 1586 10.66 23 halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu. 7783 1326 5.87 22 ra.dkuug.dk. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Aug 4 17:20:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04187 for hubs-outgoing; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04180 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id TAA29915; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 19:19:35 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199608050019.TAA29915@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Helllp :-) To: jmb@freefall.freebsd.org (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 19:19:35 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199608050003.RAA03532@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Aug 4, 96 05:03:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hubs@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Joe Greco wrote: > > > > Something's changed in the last day or three that's caused the machine > > hosting mail.freebsd.sol.net some pain and agony... > > we had a mail surge this week. i got 1600++ bounces yesterday alone. > here are some mail stats--first column is addresses, 2nd is messages, > third is addrs/msg leaving freefall (this is the effect of bulkmailer > by the way). freefall's maillog for jul 31st is 24MB! Well disk is cheap :-) I've been a little unhappy with just how hard that poor drive has been getting hammered anyways (sounds like rapid machine gun fire as Sendmail iterates through the queue, it's an older Wren drive, and with 752 queued requests right now it's busy for a fair portion of each half hour). Good incentive for me to get off my duff and do something I guess. Thanks for the info, ... JG From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Aug 4 17:32:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA05077 for hubs-outgoing; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA05065; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:32:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199608050032.RAA05065@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Helllp :-) To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199608050019.TAA29915@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at Aug 4, 96 07:19:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hubs@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joe Greco wrote: > > > Joe Greco wrote: > > > > > > Something's changed in the last day or three that's caused the machine > > > hosting mail.freebsd.sol.net some pain and agony... > > > > we had a mail surge this week. i got 1600++ bounces yesterday alone. > > here are some mail stats--first column is addresses, 2nd is messages, > > third is addrs/msg leaving freefall (this is the effect of bulkmailer > > by the way). freefall's maillog for jul 31st is 24MB! > > Well disk is cheap :-) > > I've been a little unhappy with just how hard that poor drive has been > getting hammered anyways (sounds like rapid machine gun fire as Sendmail > iterates through the queue, it's an older Wren drive, and with 752 > queued requests right now it's busy for a fair portion of each half > hour). yeah, we move a lot of mail....lst week we did over 2 GB by thursday (memory, not verified). ns2.harborcom.net is a major player in delivering mail, as you can see from the stats. i done know how we would do it without yourself and the other relays ;) jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Aug 5 08:00:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA23067 for hubs-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA23015 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 07:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA00608; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 10:58:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 10:58:33 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9608051458.AA00608@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Joe Greco Cc: jmb@freefall.freebsd.org (Jonathan M. Bresler), freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Helllp :-) In-Reply-To: <199608050019.TAA29915@brasil.moneng.mei.com> References: <199608050003.RAA03532@freefall.freebsd.org> <199608050019.TAA29915@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > I've been a little unhappy with just how hard that poor drive has been > getting hammered anyways (sounds like rapid machine gun fire as Sendmail > iterates through the queue, it's an older Wren drive, and with 752 > queued requests right now it's busy for a fair portion of each half > hour). People in .edu seem to be generally better-connected (except for a few consistent mis-behavers). Perhaps this is because MIT is better-connected than most other places in the world. At the moment I have 61 requests in the queue, most for freelist@elf.kendall.mdcc.edu and caj@tower.stc.housing.washington.edu. I wish that Mr. `caj' would give himself an MX record for something more reachable (I suspect `tower' is only reachable part-time); that would eliminate most of my queue right there. As for the amount of logging, this month so far it's not too bad: wollman@halloran-eldar(445)$ du -ks /var/adm/syslog.dated/* 2859 /var/adm/syslog.dated/01-Aug-00:00 2067 /var/adm/syslog.dated/02-Aug-00:00 2698 /var/adm/syslog.dated/03-Aug-00:00 2210 /var/adm/syslog.dated/04-Aug-00:00 850 /var/adm/syslog.dated/05-Aug-00:00 (This is an OSF/1 machine running sendmail 5.) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Aug 7 02:35:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA29283 for hubs-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 02:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA29228 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 02:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA11766 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:29:23 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA12900 for freebsd-hubs@freefall.cdrom.com; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:42:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:42:35 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199608070942.LAA12900@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: freebsd-hubs@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: sup of the cvs tree (very long everyday) Sender: owner-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone else supping cvs? I wonder why my sup log (the outcome of sup -v supfile | mail -s "cvs sup finished `date`" kuku is around 4000 lines nearly every day. Does it have a technical reason lying in cvs itself? Most of the lines are 'Updated directory...' --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Aug 7 03:09:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA01323 for hubs-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 03:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spinner.DIALix.COM (root@spinner.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA01299 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 03:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spinner.DIALix.COM (peter@localhost.DIALix.oz.au [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.DIALix.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA10079; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 18:07:19 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <199608071007.SAA10079@spinner.DIALix.COM> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.6 3/24/96 To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: freebsd-hubs@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: sup of the cvs tree (very long everyday) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Aug 1996 11:42:35 +0200." <199608070942.LAA12900@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 18:07:19 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Christoph P. Kukulies" wrote: > Anyone else supping cvs? I wonder why my sup log (the outcome of > sup -v supfile | mail -s "cvs sup finished `date`" kuku > is around 4000 lines nearly every day. Does it have a technical reason > lying in cvs itself? Most of the lines are 'Updated directory...' > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de Yes. Sup is mirroring the timestamps of the directory files themselves it seems. Every time somebody does a 'cvs update' and something gets checked out, lock files are created in the /home/ncvs tree, changing the timestamps of the containing directories. Hence, each sup run causes the "Updating directory ..." etc. As to why there are 4000 entries, I dont know... :-/ Cheers, -Peter From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Aug 7 10:19:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21429 for hubs-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cornus.FSL.ORST.EDU (root@FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.105]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21417; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from picea.FSL.ORST.EDU (hernanw@picea.FSL.ORST.EDU [128.193.112.3]) by cornus.FSL.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA07184; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:19:32 -0700 Received: (from hernanw@localhost) by picea.FSL.ORST.EDU (8.7/8.6.9) id KAA18425; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:19:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Hernandez To: Freebsd Hubs cc: questions Subject: cvs stable tree Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Now that 2.1.5 is the latest release, what is our tag for cvs updates? echo "Running update on stable branch" /bin/date cd ${STABLEDIR} && cvs update -rRELENG_2_1_0 -q -P -d Also, in the current tree, I see src-contrib in the share/examples/sup/stable-supfile, which I think is causing invalid release errors in my log files. src-contrib is valid for the current folks, but why is it included in the stable-supfile? Wayne From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Aug 7 19:25:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-hubs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA26574 for hubs-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA26540; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA14272; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:25:28 -0700 (PDT) To: Wayne Hernandez cc: Freebsd Hubs , questions Subject: Re: cvs stable tree In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Aug 1996 10:19:30 PDT." Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 19:25:28 -0700 Message-ID: <14270.839471128@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hubs@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Also, in the current tree, I see src-contrib in the > share/examples/sup/stable-supfile, which I think is causing invalid > release errors in my log files. src-contrib is valid for the current > folks, but why is it included in the stable-supfile? Hmmmm. Good question! :-) Jordan