From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 01:04:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA10672 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:04:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from io.cts.com (io.cts.com [198.68.174.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA10663 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:04:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mdavis@io.cts.com) Received: (from mdavis@localhost) by io.cts.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA00225 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:04:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mdavis) From: Morgan Davis Message-Id: <199711020904.BAA00225@io.cts.com> Subject: unremovable library files To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:04:21 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've successfully cvsupped 2.2.5-RELEASE sources, made world, rebooted several times, and all is quite dandy. However, my drive where I keep /usr/src and /usr/obj is at 95%. To free some space, I wanted to remove all the stuff in the obj directory. An rm -r did the trick, except it refuses to remove the following files and directories in /usr/obj/tmp: total 3 drwxr-xr-x 2 bin bin 2048 Nov 2 00:41 lib/ drwxr-xr-x 2 bin bin 512 Nov 2 00:41 libexec/ ./lib: total 486 -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 451474 Oct 25 03:06 libc.so.3.0 -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 12583 Oct 25 02:03 libcipher.so.2.0 -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 16698 Oct 25 03:06 libdescrypt.so.2.0 ./libexec: total 68 -r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 69632 Oct 25 00:35 ld.so* I get "operation not permitted" errors (yes, I'm root). I'm not sure I understand why libraries that were built in /usr/obj/tmp and installed into their rightful locations refuse to be deleted even after rebooting. Further, ldconfig doesn't include /usr/obj/tmp/lib or /usr/obj/tmp/libexec at boot time. So I'm baffled. What's up with this? --Morgan From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 01:25:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA11519 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:25:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA11507 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.7/8.7.3) id LAA01948; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:25:37 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:25:37 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199711020925.LAA01948@silver.sms.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Petri Helenius To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: de driver X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15p7 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I pulled the cable from a SMC de0 card and put it back on. All link lights, etc came nicely back on but the OS thought that: de0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 194.111.122.123 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 194.111.122.127 inet 194.111.122.121 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 194.111.122.127 ether 00:00:c0:ca:41:f9 media: 100baseTX status: no carrier After I re-ifconfiged it: ifconfig de0 inet 194.111.122.121 netmask 255.255.255.248 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex It came up nicely: # ifconfig de0 de0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 194.111.122.121 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 194.111.122.127 ether 00:00:c0:ca:41:f9 media: 100baseTX status: active At the failure it logged: de0: link down: cable problem? And at ifconfig: de0: enabling 100baseTX port de0: enabling Full Duplex 100baseTX port The system is: FreeBSD lab2.sms.fi 2.2-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 14 16:40:48 EEST 1997 root@lab2.sms.fi:/usr/src/sys/compile/LAB i386 Other than that, I really like the new de0 driver. Pete From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 01:25:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA11555 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:25:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from io.cts.com (io.cts.com [198.68.174.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA11548 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:25:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mdavis@io.cts.com) Received: (from mdavis@localhost) by io.cts.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA00266 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:25:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mdavis) From: Morgan Davis Message-Id: <199711020925.BAA00266@io.cts.com> Subject: freebsd disk manager? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:25:58 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The tools that come with the FreeBSD installation for partitioning and labeling disks is nice. Is there a similar utility one could use on an existing system? Trying to use disklabel directly is always a headache. There's got to be a better way to manage disk partitioning *after* you've gone through the install. --Morgan From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 02:16:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA13757 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:16:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from home.shvetc.marka.net.ua (home.shvetc.marka.net.ua [193.193.219.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA13750 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:16:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eugene@shvetc.marka.net.ua) Received: from eugene.shvetc.marka.net.ua (eugene.shvetc.marka.net.ua [193.193.219.187]) by home.shvetc.marka.net.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA15364; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:15:14 +0200 (EET) From: "Eugene Shvetc" To: "Morgan Davis" Cc: Subject: Re: unremovable library files Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:15:12 +0200 Message-ID: <01bce778$34d50a00$bbdbc1c1@eugene.shvetc.marka.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I've successfully cvsupped 2.2.5-RELEASE sources, made world, rebooted >several times, and all is quite dandy. However, my drive where I keep >/usr/src and /usr/obj is at 95%. To free some space, I wanted to >remove all the stuff in the obj directory. An rm -r did the trick, >except it refuses to remove the following files and directories in >/usr/obj/tmp: > >total 3 >drwxr-xr-x 2 bin bin 2048 Nov 2 00:41 lib/ >drwxr-xr-x 2 bin bin 512 Nov 2 00:41 libexec/ > >./lib: >total 486 >-r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 451474 Oct 25 03:06 libc.so.3.0 >-r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 12583 Oct 25 02:03 libcipher.so.2.0 >-r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 16698 Oct 25 03:06 libdescrypt.so.2.0 > >./libexec: >total 68 >-r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 69632 Oct 25 00:35 ld.so* > > >I get "operation not permitted" errors (yes, I'm root). I'm not sure >I understand why libraries that were built in /usr/obj/tmp and >installed into their rightful locations refuse to be deleted even >after rebooting. Further, ldconfig doesn't include /usr/obj/tmp/lib >or /usr/obj/tmp/libexec at boot time. So I'm baffled. > >What's up with this? > >--Morgan > Try ls -lo. There files have schg flag. You can remove it using chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/tmp From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 02:59:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA14894 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:59:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from grunt.vl.net.ua (grunt.vl.net.ua [193.124.76.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA14883 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:58:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from news@grunt.vl.net.ua) Received: from news by grunt.vl.net.ua with local (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0xRxo4-0000xc-00; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 13:03:01 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd disk manager? Date: 2 Nov 1997 13:02:59 +0200 Message-ID: <63hml3$3jb$1@grunt.vl.net.ua> X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970930; i386 FreeBSD 2.2-970911-RELENG] X-Via: News-To-Mail v1.0 From: Vladimir Litovka Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Morgan Davis wrote: > labeling disks is nice. Is there a similar utility one could use on > an existing system? /stand/sysinstall -- Vladimir Litovka , hostmaster of vl.net.ua ======== Don't trouble trouble until trouble troubles you. From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 08:51:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA00120 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 08:51:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from nyct.net (andre@bsd1.nyct.net [204.141.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA00115 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 08:50:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre@nyct.net) Received: from localhost (andre@localhost) by nyct.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA07698 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:50:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andre@nyct.net) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:50:55 -0500 (EST) From: Andre Chang Reply-To: Andre Chang To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2.5 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Has 2.2.5 subscription been shipped yet?. (patiently waiting for my copy :) ) Until.. -- Andre. From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 12:14:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA10191 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:14:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10183 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:14:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA01185; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:14:29 -0800 (PST) To: Andre Chang cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.5 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 02 Nov 1997 11:50:55 EST." Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 12:14:29 -0800 Message-ID: <1182.878501669@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You'll have to wait at least another 10 days, I'm afraid. :( > Hello, > Has 2.2.5 subscription been shipped yet?. (patiently waiting for > my copy :) ) > > Until.. > -- Andre. > > From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 12:48:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA11514 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:48:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from fledge.watson.org (FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA11508 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:48:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.7/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA07848 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:48:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:48:24 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson Reply-To: Robert Watson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SMC EtherPower card + CRC errors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently upgraded one of my server machines from FreeBSD 2.2.1 (with a 2.2.2 kernel and a few other patches.) The card holds an SMC EtherPower card described by dmesg as the following: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 1 14:32:43 EST 1997 robert@cyrus.watson.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/FLEDGE CPU: Pentium (119.75-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) ... de0 rev 33 int a irq 9 on pci0:14 de0: SMC 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 2.1 de0: address 00:e0:29:0e:b6:dd de0: enabling 10baseT port Since the upgrade, we've been getting a fair number of the following message: de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc de0: receive: 00:60:97:61:ba:39: bad crc de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc Mostly on the broadcast address. None of the other BSD machines on the network are giving this error. While it's possible that the card has gone bad, the timeliness of the new error with regards to the stable upgrade is convenient :). Does anyone have a pointers, or suggestions as to a cause? I have not been following changes to the de driver. Robert N Watson Junior, Logic+Computation, Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ Network Administrator, SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ robert@fledge.watson.org rwatson@safeport.com http://www.watson.org/~robert/ From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 15:01:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA16583 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:01:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from biceps.gymnet.com (qmailr@biceps.gymnet.com [204.216.82.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA16577 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:01:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rwl@gymnet.com) Received: (qmail 15830 invoked from network); 2 Nov 1997 23:02:30 -0000 Received: from triceps.gymnet.com (HELO mail.gymnet.com) (204.216.82.51) by biceps.gymnet.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 1997 23:02:30 -0000 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:01:08 -0800 From: Robert Luce X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.00 Preview 1) Registered to Robert Luce Reply-To: Robert Luce Organization: Gymnet Communications Priority: Normal Message-ID: <1625.971102@gymnet.com> To: Robert Watson CC: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMC EtherPower card + CRC errors References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm seeing very similar problems, also with an SMC card (de0). Nov 2 11:12:08 flex /kernel: de0: receive: 00:a0:24:80:09:33: bad crc I'm also seeing many more of the following since cvsupping FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE: Nov 2 11:24:25 flex /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - increase maxusers! > I recently upgraded one of my server machines from FreeBSD 2.2.1 (with a > 2.2.2 kernel and a few other patches.) The card holds an SMC EtherPower > card described by dmesg as the following: > FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 1 14:32:43 EST 1997 > robert@cyrus.watson.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/FLEDGE > CPU: Pentium (119.75-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 > Features=0x1bf > real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) > ... > de0 rev 33 int a irq 9 on pci0:14 > de0: SMC 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 2.1 > de0: address 00:e0:29:0e:b6:dd > de0: enabling 10baseT port > Since the upgrade, we've been getting a fair number of the following > message: > de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc > de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc > de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc > de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc > de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc > de0: receive: 00:60:97:61:ba:39: bad crc > de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc > de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc > Mostly on the broadcast address. None of the other BSD machines on the > network are giving this error. While it's possible that the card has > gone > bad, the timeliness of the new error with regards to the stable upgrade > is > convenient :). Does anyone have a pointers, or suggestions as to a > cause? > I have not been following changes to the de driver. > Robert N Watson > Junior, Logic+Computation, Carnegie Mellon University > http://www.cmu.edu/ > Network Administrator, SafePort Network Services > http://www.safeport.com/ > robert@fledge.watson.org rwatson@safeport.com > http://www.watson.org/~robert/ ---- Bob Luce "Il faut supporter deux ou trois chenilles System/News Administrator si on veut connaitre les papillons.." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery Finger rwl@gymnet.com for PGP Public Key Block From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 15:13:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA17193 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:13:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from fledge.watson.org (FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA17185 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:13:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.4]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.7/8.6.10) with SMTP id SAA17254; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 18:13:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 18:14:19 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Robert Luce cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMC EtherPower card + CRC errors In-Reply-To: <1625.971102@gymnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, Robert Luce wrote: > I'm seeing very similar problems, also with an SMC card (de0). > > Nov 2 11:12:08 flex /kernel: de0: receive: 00:a0:24:80:09:33: bad crc > > I'm also seeing many more of the following since cvsupping FreeBSD > 2.2.5-STABLE: > > Nov 2 11:24:25 flex /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - increase maxusers! I probably don't run into this, as I already have maxusers set to 192. :) Which is probably overkill, but once in a while it may prove useful. The server is fairly busy (but not cdrom.com busy :). It has two interfaces, one de0 and one ed0 (both SMC cards). As of the 13 hour uptime, the following is netstat -nbi output: Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Ibytes Opkts Oerrs Obytes Coll de0 1500 00.e0.29.0e.b6.dd 668020 69 81086266 644829 3 753583880 74098 de0 1500 128.2 128.2.91.116 668020 69 81086266 644829 3 753583880 74098 ed0 1500 00.00.c0.77.bb.a8 2913267 6 482119730 3452395 0 1687583070 2226 ed0 1500 192.0.2 192.0.2.3 2913267 6 482119730 3452395 0 1687583070 2226 The current mbuf situation seems reasonable: 537 mbufs in use: 411 mbufs allocated to data 110 mbufs allocated to packet headers 12 mbufs allocated to protocol control blocks 4 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 266/458 mbuf clusters in use 983 Kbytes allocated to network (60% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines But I don't have statistics from before the stable- upgrade. Robert N Watson Junior, Logic+Computation, Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ Network Administrator, SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ robert@fledge.watson.org rwatson@safeport.com http://www.watson.org/~robert/ From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 15:23:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA17590 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:23:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from shawn.cpl.net (shawn.cpl.net [207.67.172.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA17583 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:23:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shawn@shawn.cpl.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by shawn.cpl.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA14224 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:23:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shawn) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:23:19 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Ramsey Message-Id: <199711022323.PAA14224@shawn.cpl.net> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Test Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just testing havent recieved anything for ages. From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 16:00:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA19099 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 16:00:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br ([146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA19091 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 16:00:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonny@coppe.ufrj.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA00921; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 21:59:56 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199711022359.VAA00921@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: unremovable library files In-Reply-To: <199711020904.BAA00225@io.cts.com> from Morgan Davis at "Nov 2, 97 01:04:21 am" To: mdavis@io.cts.com (Morgan Davis) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 21:59:56 -0200 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Morgan Davis) // I've successfully cvsupped 2.2.5-RELEASE sources, made world, rebooted // several times, and all is quite dandy. However, my drive where I keep // /usr/src and /usr/obj is at 95%. To free some space, I wanted to // remove all the stuff in the obj directory. An rm -r did the trick, // except it refuses to remove the following files and directories in // /usr/obj/tmp: // // ./lib: // total 486 // -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 451474 Oct 25 03:06 libc.so.3.0 // -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 12583 Oct 25 02:03 libcipher.so.2.0 // -r--r--r-- 1 bin bin 16698 Oct 25 03:06 libdescrypt.so.2.0 # ls -lo /usr/lib/libc.so.3.0 -r--r--r-- 2 bin bin schg 426898 Oct 18 00:56 /usr/lib/libc.so.3.0 ^^^^ man chflags Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 jonny@coppe.ufrj.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro UFRJ/COPPE/CISI PGP fingerprint: 29 C0 50 B9 B6 3E 58 F2 83 5F E3 26 BF 0F EA 67 From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Nov 2 21:52:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA08903 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 21:52:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from lafcol (lafcol.lafayette.edu [139.147.8.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA08898 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 21:52:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from knollm@lafcol.lafayette.edu) Received: from bishop by lafcol (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA21107; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 00:51:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971103005109.00a0b390@lafcol.lafayette.edu> X-Sender: knollm@lafcol.lafayette.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 00:52:12 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Michael Knoll Subject: Making world and slicing harddrives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk One of the suggected options in make.conf is -O, for optimizations. I noticed in the man pages that -O3 is a higher level of optimization. Is it dangerous to recompile world/kernel if maximum optimizations. Also, sysinstalls auto configure for harddrives is to slice the drive into a swap, /usr, /, and /var. Whynot just create a / and a swap? Wouldn't that make life simplier when harddrive space is low? Thanks. Michael From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 3 01:39:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA21516 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 01:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from emma.eng.uct.ac.za (emma.eng.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA21507 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 01:39:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shaun@emma.eng.uct.ac.za) Received: (from shaun@localhost) by emma.eng.uct.ac.za (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA19118; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:38:56 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from shaun) Message-ID: <19971103113855.34331@emma.eng.uct.ac.za> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 11:38:55 +0200 From: Shaun Courtney To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi For the last week or so I've been having problems with the de0 driver. I get these errors: de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc (lots) de0: receive: 00:40:f6:60:1d:cb: bad crc (bank of 10 or so) de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc etc... Any ideas whats up? It happens on two machine, both running 2.2-STABLE, which were running 2.2.2-R before without problems. The NIC is a C-NET card with the de chip Thanks shaun -- Department of Electrical Engineering and CERECAM Unix System Administrator and Unix support AD E4 BF C8 51 94 B2 06 36 24 6A C1 A3 3A 5D 01 http://www.eng.uct.ac.za From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 3 15:58:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA14722 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:58:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from bubble.didi.com (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA14717 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:58:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by bubble.didi.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA02873; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:58:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:58:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711032358.PAA02873@bubble.didi.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: two more crashes on 2.2-stable From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems like the crashes are becoming more and more frequent. Hmm.... Satoshi ------- ## echo bt | gdb -k *.17 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...(no debugging symbols found)... IdlePTD 207000 current pcb at 1eacf0 panic: page fault #0 0xf01151a3 in boot () (kgdb) #0 0xf01151a3 in boot () #1 0xf0115462 in panic () #2 0xf01bfff6 in trap_fatal () #3 0xf01bfae4 in trap_pfault () #4 0xf01bf7bf in trap () #5 0xf018d1c2 in tulip_rx_intr () #6 0xf018d867 in tulip_intr_handler () #7 0xf018d9c5 in tulip_intr_normal () #8 0xf01902dd in pci_int () #9 0xf01b880a in vec10 () #10 0xf01d91b5 in ahc_get_scb () #11 0xf01d8ba2 in ahc_scsi_cmd () #12 0xf0195096 in scsi_scsi_cmd () #13 0xf0199045 in sdstart () #14 0xf0198eea in sd_strategy () #15 0xf0195e28 in scsi_strategy () #16 0xf0198a2c in sdstrategy () #17 0xf013bb6e in spec_strategy () #18 0xf010135a in ccdstart () #19 0xf010129f in ccdstrategy () #20 0xf013bb6e in spec_strategy () #21 0xf012e290 in bwrite () #22 0xf012e35a in vn_bwrite () #23 0xf012ed2c in vfs_bio_awrite () #24 0xf01a1abe in ffs_fsync () #25 0xf01a0830 in ffs_sync () #26 0xf0134f87 in sync () #27 0xf011506d in boot () #28 0xf0115462 in panic () #29 0xf01bfff6 in trap_fatal () #30 0xf01bfae4 in trap_pfault () #31 0xf01bf7bf in trap () #32 0xf015ce23 in nfsrv_read () #33 0xf0174d70 in nfssvc_nfsd () #34 0xf01744d8 in nfssvc () #35 0xf01c0233 in syscall () #36 0x2945 in ?? () #37 0x107e in ?? () ## echo bt | gdb -k *.18 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...(no debugging symbols found)... IdlePTD 207000 current pcb at 1eacf0 panic: page fault #0 0xf01151a3 in boot () (kgdb) #0 0xf01151a3 in boot () #1 0xf0115462 in panic () #2 0xf01bfff6 in trap_fatal () #3 0xf01bfae4 in trap_pfault () #4 0xf01bf7bf in trap () #5 0xf018d1b6 in tulip_rx_intr () #6 0xf018d867 in tulip_intr_handler () #7 0xf018d9c5 in tulip_intr_normal () #8 0xf01902dd in pci_int () #9 0xf01b880a in vec10 () #10 0xf012f3cf in getblk () #11 0xf012dfcd in bread () #12 0xf019e56f in ffs_update () #13 0xf01a1bd0 in ffs_fsync () #14 0xf01a0830 in ffs_sync () #15 0xf0134f87 in sync () #16 0xf011506d in boot () #17 0xf0115462 in panic () #18 0xf01bfff6 in trap_fatal () #19 0xf01bfae4 in trap_pfault () #20 0xf01bf7bf in trap () #21 0xf015ce17 in nfsrv_read () #22 0xf0174d70 in nfssvc_nfsd () #23 0xf01744d8 in nfssvc () #24 0xf01c0233 in syscall () #25 0x2945 in ?? () #26 0x107e in ?? () From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 3 22:19:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA14890 for stable-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:19:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from io.cts.com (io.cts.com [198.68.174.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA14885 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:19:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mdavis@io.cts.com) Received: (from mdavis@localhost) by io.cts.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA02207; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:18:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mdavis) From: Morgan Davis Message-Id: <199711040618.WAA02207@io.cts.com> Subject: Re: de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc In-Reply-To: <19971103113855.34331@emma.eng.uct.ac.za> from Shaun Courtney at "Nov 3, 97 11:38:55 am" To: shaun@emma.eng.uct.ac.za (Shaun Courtney) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:18:45 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ditto, except with an SMC card, and from addresses other than the gateway. Also getting "alignment error" messages. Are these just new diagnostics for problems we may have been experiencing all along, but now they're just being reported in 2.2.5? --Morgan Shaun Courtney writes: > Hi > > For the last week or so I've been having problems with the de0 driver. > > I get these errors: > > de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc > (lots) > de0: receive: 00:40:f6:60:1d:cb: bad crc > (bank of 10 or so) > de0: receive: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: bad crc > etc... > > Any ideas whats up? It happens on two machine, both running 2.2-STABLE, > which were running 2.2.2-R before without problems. > > The NIC is a C-NET card with the de chip > > Thanks > > shaun > > > > -- > Department of Electrical Engineering and CERECAM > Unix System Administrator and Unix support > AD E4 BF C8 51 94 B2 06 36 24 6A C1 A3 3A 5D 01 > http://www.eng.uct.ac.za > From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 4 08:08:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA18708 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:08:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA18702 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:08:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@netcom1.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (mvh@netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09698 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mvh@localhost) by netcom1.netcom.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA16884; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:08:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:08:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711041608.IAA16884@netcom1.netcom.com> From: "Michael V. Harding" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.com Subject: CVSUP as of today does not build... Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ...fails as follows during 'make buildworld'. I removed /usr/sup to make sure that everything was checked before I did an update. ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../common_sources -I/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../libuuconf -DVERSION=\"1.06.1\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/uuconv.c cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../common_sources -I/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../libuuconf -DVERSION=\"1.06.1\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -o uuconv uuconv.o /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../libunix/libunix.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../libuuconf/libuuconf.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../libuucp/libuucp.a tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `l)e ro' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `l_$f,o1p(eenp' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `l_$f,o1p(eenp' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `p(eenp' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `uuconf_cmd_file' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `md_file' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `md_file' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 4 10:19:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA26219 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:19:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA26209 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:19:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@netcom1.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (mvh@netcom8.netcom.com [192.100.81.117]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10158 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:18:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mvh@localhost) by netcom1.netcom.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10017; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:18:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:18:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711041818.KAA10017@netcom1.netcom.com> From: "Michael V. Harding" To: mvh@netcom.com CC: freebsd-stable@freebsd.com In-reply-to: <199711041608.IAA16884@netcom1.netcom.com> (mvh@netcom.com) Subject: Re: CVSUP as of today does not build... Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I tried again without -DCLOBBER -DNOCLEAN and it worked. Hmm. Either I have an intermittent, or -DCLOBBER isn't working Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 08:08:46 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael V. Harding" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 93fdba073c982a1934dc73b3277ef5a5 ...fails as follows during 'make buildworld'. I removed /usr/sup to make sure that everything was checked before I did an update. ===> gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../common_sources -I/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../libuuconf -DVERSION=\"1.06.1\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/uuconv.c cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../common_sources -I/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../libuuconf -DVERSION=\"1.06.1\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -o uuconv uuconv.o /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../libunix/libunix.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../libuuconf/libuuconf.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/libexec/uucp/uuconv/../libuucp/libuucp.a tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `l)e ro' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `l_$f,o1p(eenp' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `l_$f,o1p(eenp' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `p(eenp' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `uuconf_cmd_file' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `md_file' referenced from text segment tdnams.o: Undefined symbol `md_file' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 4 10:51:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA28708 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:51:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from onyx.atipa.com (user19114@ns.atipa.com [208.128.22.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA28696 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:51:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 1018); 4 Nov 1997 18:56:03 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:56:03 -0700 (MST) From: Atipa X-Sender: freebsd@dot.ishiboo.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Did this stuff make it into 2.2.5-RELEASE? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kernel stuff: 1) IDE DMA-Busmastering patches 2) Luigi's PNP code + sound driver 3) Simon's DPT RAID driver If not in this release, will these ever be merged into the distribution or will they always be add-ons? Packages: 1) XFree86-3.3.1 2) BIND 8.1.1 (or later) I did not see any of this info in the RELEASE-NOTES. Thanks, Kevin From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 4 11:44:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA02180 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:44:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (tcgr-62.dialup.alliance.net [207.74.43.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA02151 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:44:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02173; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:44:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:44:50 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: Atipa cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Did this stuff make it into 2.2.5-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Atipa wrote: > Packages: > 1) XFree86-3.3.1 I believe this was, and I think I did read it in the release notes... > 2) BIND 8.1.1 (or later) No, because 4.9.6 incorporates the security fixes and 8.1.1's library isn't good enough for -STABLE yet. Matt Behrens | Help bring a free realtime communication http://www.zigg.com/ | system to the Internet. Join the NetPager matt@zigg.com | Project! http://www.zigg.com/netpager/ From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 4 12:14:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA04017 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:14:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA04002 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:14:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA27496; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:14:15 -0700 (MST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14753; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:14:14 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:14:14 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711042014.NAA14753@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Atipa Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did this stuff make it into 2.2.5-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Kernel stuff: > 1) IDE DMA-Busmastering patches No. > 2) Luigi's PNP code + sound driver ??? > 3) Simon's DPT RAID driver It's not even in -current yet. :) > If not in this release, will these ever be merged into the distribution > or will they always be add-ons? For 2.2, I suspect 1) might make it (it needs someone to merge it into 2.2 and test it), 2) probably since the standard 2.2 isn't very good, and 3) is *very* doubtful since it requires too many other changes that could possibly 'de-stabilize' things. > Packages: > 1) XFree86-3.3.1 Isn't in on the 2.2.5 disk? I think this is already done. > 2) BIND 8.1.1 (or later) Nope, since bind 4.9.6 is still considered the 'standard/safe' version to use. Maybe later distributions. Nate From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 4 12:43:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA06033 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:43:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from militzer.me.tuns.ca (militzer.me.tuns.ca [134.190.50.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA06002; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:43:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bemfica@militzer.me.tuns.ca) Received: from localhost (bemfica@localhost) by militzer.me.tuns.ca (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA27258; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:41:28 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:41:28 -0400 (AST) From: Antonio Bemfica To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: CVSup cannot parse stable-supfile? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I try to use the example file available at ftp.freebsd.org, CVSup gives me an error: mechv:/usr/sup.sh# cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile Parsing supfile "/usr/sup.sh/stable-supfile" Release not specified for collection "*default" I upgraded to the latest CVSup, but that didn't solve it. I do have a working supfile, but still would like to know the proper syntax. Here's the URL to the example file: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/ \ share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile which is referred from: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook237.html#492 Antonio From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 5 22:49:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA24338 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:49:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA24310 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:49:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id BAA11016 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 01:49:22 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711060649.BAA11016@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Suggestion for those running -stable To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 01:49:22 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FWIW: to those who are using 2.2.X in production: If the change that I just made to vm_page.c checks out with everyone, this should fix a subtile, lurking VM bug. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 5 23:36:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA27546 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:36:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from word.smith.net.au (vh1.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA27518; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:36:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.gsoft.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01751; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:02:49 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711060732.SAA01751@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for those running -stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 01:49:22 CDT." <199711060649.BAA11016@dyson.iquest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 18:02:49 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > FWIW: to those who are using 2.2.X in production: > > If the change that I just made to vm_page.c checks out with everyone, this > should fix a subtile, lurking VM bug. Can you (please?) characterise this bug? We're still chasing the "some things use 3x swap" problem, and if this is it, we have a whole *pile* of machines in remote locations to apply it to. If not, then I can save me a lot of work worrying about it. 8) mike From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 5 23:41:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA27887 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:41:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA27864; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:41:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id CAA00216; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 02:40:59 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711060740.CAA00216@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Suggestion for those running -stable In-Reply-To: <199711060732.SAA01751@word.smith.net.au> from Mike Smith at "Nov 6, 97 06:02:49 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 02:40:58 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mike Smith said: > > FWIW: to those who are using 2.2.X in production: > > > > If the change that I just made to vm_page.c checks out with everyone, this > > should fix a subtile, lurking VM bug. > > Can you (please?) characterise this bug? We're still chasing the "some > things use 3x swap" problem, and if this is it, we have a whole *pile* > of machines in remote locations to apply it to. > The "missing page" problem. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 05:08:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA12221 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 05:08:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from word.smith.net.au (word.smith.net.au [202.0.75.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA12201 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 05:08:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.smith.net.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00456 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:34:19 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711061304.XAA00456@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: *WARNING* -stable build breakage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:34:18 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This one might have been a world-killer for most people; if you have been bitten by build failure in 'joy.c', now is a good time to try again. msmith 1997/11/06 05:00:14 PST Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_2_2) sys/i386/isa joy.c qcam.c Log: Fix breakage caused by Julian's change to lkm.h (name change in MOD_DEV definition). This probably breaks 'wcd' too, but the fix there is not obvious, so it will be commented out until someone addresses it. Revision Changes Path 1.19.2.1 +0 -1 src/sys/i386/isa/joy.c 1.16.2.2 +0 -1 src/sys/i386/isa/qcam.c ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 05:51:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA14868 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 05:51:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from room101.sysc.com (qmailr@richmojm2.student.rose-hulman.edu [137.112.206.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA14847 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 05:51:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jayrich@room101.sysc.com) Received: (qmail 4739 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Nov 1997 13:50:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:50:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Jay M. Richmond" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: qmail and vacation in 2.2-stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I apologize for the double posting, but I'm not sure where this belongs. Has anyone gotten qmail and vacation to work properly together? When I follow the documentation, putting |/usr/bin/vacation user in .qmail, vacation exits with: Nov 6 08:18:53 room101 vacation: vacation: no initial "From" line. printed to syslog. No other messages are displayed. The message is lost... Please cc me your response via e-mail. Thanks for your time, Jay jayrich@sysc.com -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzQe9IMAAAEEAKVCBVhfVHCyNOsNvCwXbamYDslPoBoUgllJxGWrjYr8+XOS mAIo6VNyR6E0Q57SICfxAlw8CfrW3jSFZxCalyAr7f4SU/ioF7qOx9AEeRePKbQD XQYT/eUirjo4h1TzQPWMrlGtnehTJfX4LKLeu8WRsMog/6LMzxBohdeuTAY9AAUR tCJKYXkgTS4gUmljaG1vbmQgPGpheXJpY2hAc3lzYy5jb20+ =PTZq -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 07:16:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA21741 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:16:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from blue.bad.bris.ac.uk (blue.bad.bris.ac.uk [137.222.132.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA21604 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:14:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taff@blue.bad.bris.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 20174 invoked by uid 57242); 6 Nov 1997 15:18:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:18:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Aled Treharne Reply-To: felix@royal.net To: "Jay M. Richmond" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: qmail and vacation in 2.2-stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Jay M. Richmond wrote: > Has anyone gotten qmail and vacation to work properly together? > When I follow the documentation, putting |/usr/bin/vacation user > in .qmail, Hi there. In the Qmail docs somewhere (the man page I think) it tells you that you need a line like this in your .qmail file: | preline /usr/bin/vacation -r infinite -a felix taff The preline bit is what tells qmail that you're piping into a program, since it only adds the From line on final delivery. -r is something about how many times it will reply to each message - perversely the option here means it will only reply once to a message from any user. The -a option specifies alternate usernames for me, so it doesn't send myself a message! :) Hope this helps, - -Taff. Aled Treharne felix@royal.net "Big Bird meets Salvador Dali has been brought to you by the numbers L and ), and by the letter 3." For PGP Public key finger taff@blue.bad.bris.ac.uk #include(std.disclaim) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNGHf2saJukNO1flNAQF38wQAlao4EMaY5TgYDbLrrhkF46S1DySbgorE xgcL6xc1pUGt2wnD4QshYvY3vs2LQnDUk6HEXH9dW1QKk4f7Clh1N4VBfNw7rkHj 8fcl3ZGu2Sjp67UQG0R39hkj4QnBjFbj5rQcVnrzzxvow65ChVG0xUNvI1w/ha04 tMEV6b6DA1Q= =upsf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 08:47:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA26643 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:47:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from bretweir.total.net (bretweir.total.net [205.236.175.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA26636 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:47:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunther@total.net) Received: from ppp-annex-0722.mtl.total.net (ppp-annex-0722.mtl.total.net [205.205.162.176]) by bretweir.total.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11339; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:47:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711061647.LAA11339@bretweir.total.net> X-Authentication-Warning: bretweir.total.net: ppp-annex-0722.mtl.total.net [205.205.162.176] didn't use HELO protocol To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG CC: judy.jibb@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca From: Costin Geanta Date: Thu, 6 Nov 97 11:47:01 -0500 Subject: New XXX site. X-Mailer: WM - Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, this is an advertising e-mail for adults only... If you don't want to read it, erase it right now... There's a new HOT XXX site that just opened. The adress is http://wetwild.websx.com You can get access to over 4300 FREE XXX sites! If you are a Webmaster, you could earn thousands of dollars! Go take a look. If you prefer PHONE SEX, call 1-767-445-2398 FREE from 1-900 charges, FREE from credit card charges, FREE from restrictions. ONLY LD charges apply. READ THIS: This is NOT SPAM mail. If you received this e-mail, it's because you are on an e-mail list concerning adult material. If you want to be removed from this list, just reply this e-mail and type in the subject line "removal" and in the message your e-mail adress. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 09:52:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA01065 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:52:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00960; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:51:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA24160; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:51:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:51:36 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: Philippe Charnier cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd ypxfrd_main.c ypxfrd_server.c In-Reply-To: <199711060732.XAA11450@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ===> usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd cc -nostdinc -O2 -pipe -I. -DXFRBLOCKSIZE=65535 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c ypxfrd_svc.c cc -nostdinc -O2 -pipe -I. -DXFRBLOCKSIZE=65535 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/ypxfrd_server.c cc -nostdinc -O2 -pipe -I. -DXFRBLOCKSIZE=65535 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/../../usr.sbin/ypserv/yp_error.c cc -nostdinc -O2 -pipe -I. -DXFRBLOCKSIZE=65535 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/../../usr.sbin/ypserv/yp_access.c cc -nostdinc -O2 -pipe -I. -DXFRBLOCKSIZE=65535 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/ypxfrd_main.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/ypxfrd_main.c:67: redefinition of `rcsid' /usr/src/usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/ypxfrd_main.c:34: `rcsid' previously defined here *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Philippe Charnier wrote: > charnier 1997/11/05 23:32:22 PST > > Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_2_2) > usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd ypxfrd_main.c ypxfrd_server.c > Log: > MFC: Use err(3). > > Revision Changes Path > 1.1.1.1.2.2 +16 -13 src/usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/ypxfrd_main.c > 1.2.2.2 +3 -4 src/usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/ypxfrd_server.c > From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 10:52:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA04875 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:52:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from bofh.noc.best.net (rone@ennui.org [205.149.163.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA04870 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:52:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rone@bofh.noc.best.net) Received: (from rone@localhost) by bofh.noc.best.net (8.8.7/8.7.3) id KAA27962 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:52:13 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Echeverri Message-Id: <199711061852.KAA27962@bofh.noc.best.net> Subject: Re: New XXX site. In-Reply-To: <199711061647.LAA11339@bretweir.total.net> from Costin Geanta at "Nov 6, 97 11:47:01 am" To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:52:13 -0800 (PST) X-GmbH: Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Costin Geanta writes: READ THIS: This is NOT SPAM mail. If you received this e-mail, it's because you are on an e-mail list concerning adult material. "Not only did FreeBSD get my warez server up and running, it also got me laid!" rone looking into new meanings to "-stable" and "-current" -- Ron Echeverri "What, me pithy?" +-+ Systems/Usenet Administration Mountain View ->b | Best Internet Communications, Inc. \ \ \_| From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 11:33:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA07054 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:33:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from emout41.mail.aol.com (emout41.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA07049 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:33:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Hetzels@aol.com) From: Hetzels@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout41.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA18612 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:33:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:33:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971106142736_-1911818589@emout11.mail.aol.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New XXX site. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 97-11-06 13:21:33 EST, gunther@total.net writes: > Subj: New XXX site. > Date: 97-11-06 13:21:33 EST > From: gunther@total.net (Costin Geanta) > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > CC: judy.jibb@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca > OK who subscribed freebsd-stable to the XXX mailing list. ;) Could somebody please unsubscribe it. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 12:36:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA11514 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:36:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from lafcol (lafcol.lafayette.edu [139.147.8.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA11490 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:36:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from knollm@lafcol.lafayette.edu) Received: from believer by lafcol (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA05970; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:34:43 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971106152641.009d7100@lafcol.lafayette.edu> X-Sender: knollm@lafcol.lafayette.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 15:35:19 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Michael Knoll Subject: Partitioning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it possible to change the size of slices in a partition without lossing data? I'm pretty sure it can't be done, but I need to be sure, cause I don't want to reinstall, or have messy symbolic links everywhere. What happened is my / slice is only 30 some megs, and when lynxs downloads a file, it puts it in /tmp, which is in /. So, if I download anything about 30 megs(well, less than that) it fills /. Is there anyway to resize slices? Or is the only options to add another harddrive, or a symbloic link /tmp to another slice? Thanks... Michael From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 13:30:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA15305 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:30:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua ([195.145.31.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA15299; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:30:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archer@grape.carrier.kiev.ua) Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.101]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.6/8.Who.Cares) with ESMTP id WAA12002 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:57:18 +0200 (EET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id WAA08245; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:51:51 +0200 (EET) Received: (from archer@localhost) by grape.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA17677; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:45:33 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <19971106224530.11102@grape.carrier.kiev.ua> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:45:30 +0200 From: Alexander Litvin To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: makeworld broken in stable? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk RELENG_2_2, CVSupped today. usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/ypxfrd_main.c -- rcsid[] defined twice. -- Litvin Alexander From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 18:00:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA29921 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:00:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA29915 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:00:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (mail.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.21]) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA27699; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:00:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:00:35 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew D. Fuller" Reply-To: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Michael Knoll cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marquard@zilker.net Subject: Re: Partitioning In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19971106152641.009d7100@lafcol.lafayette.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Michael Knoll wrote: > Is it possible to change the size of slices in a partition without lossing > data? I'm pretty sure it can't be done, but I need to be sure, cause I > don't want to reinstall, or have messy symbolic links everywhere. > > What happened is my / slice is only 30 some megs, and when lynxs downloads > a file, it puts it in /tmp, which is in /. So, if I download anything > about 30 megs(well, less than that) it fills /. > > Is there anyway to resize slices? Or is the only options to add another > harddrive, or a symbloic link /tmp to another slice? Well, IMHO, you should add another drive (you DO need more space, don't you? ;) and make /tmp it's own filesystem. Option 2) There should be an option in the lynx.cfg file (in /usr/local/somethingorother) for where to put temporary files. 3) Don't hink ANY BSD can resize slice, but I know AIX could, even the version 3.2.4 I used to admin. No clue how, but maybe someone else knows? Maybe, if it works, we should integrate it? Dave? (our AIX developer-on-call) Back me up or knock me down? > > Thanks... > > Michael > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 20:00:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA06733 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:00:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from tok.qiv.com (Bcy+grdbejAHhqzaVjLxsZw5y3goaTN1@[204.214.141.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA06727 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:00:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdn@qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with UUCP id WAA14669; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:00:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01148; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:54:51 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: acp.qiv.com: jdn owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:54:51 -0600 (CST) From: Jay Nelson To: "Matthew D. Fuller" cc: Michael Knoll , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marquard@zilker.net Subject: Re: Partitioning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Michael Knoll wrote: > > > Is it possible to change the size of slices in a partition without lossing > > data? I'm pretty sure it can't be done, but I need to be sure, cause I Not normally. > > don't want to reinstall, or have messy symbolic links everywhere. Symlinks are your only option short of a back up, rebuild disks and restore. > > What happened is my / slice is only 30 some megs, and when lynxs downloads > > a file, it puts it in /tmp, which is in /. So, if I download anything > > about 30 megs(well, less than that) it fills /. Try ncftp? > > Is there anyway to resize slices? Or is the only options to add another > > harddrive, or a symbloic link /tmp to another slice? > Well, IMHO, you should add another drive (you DO need more space, don't > you? ;) and make /tmp it's own filesystem. > Option 2) There should be an option in the lynx.cfg file (in > /usr/local/somethingorother) for where to put temporary files. Just add a path to the front of the default file name lynx uses. It asks you where you want to save it, after all. > 3) Don't hink ANY BSD can resize slice, but I know AIX could, even the I think HP has licensed LVM (the AIX mechanism for expanding filesystems.) In reality, though, it doesn't take much more time or effort to move a directory to another filesystem and symlink back to where you want to see it. > version 3.2.4 I used to admin. No clue how, but maybe someone else knows? Maps physical partitions (cylendars) to logical partitions that the kernel sees. > Maybe, if it works, we should integrate it? Too much pain for too little benefit. > Dave? (our AIX developer-on-call) Back me up or knock me down? > > > > > Thanks... > > > > Michael > > > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | > * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * > | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| > * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * > | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > > > -- Jay From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 21:01:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA09794 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:01:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from set.spradley.dyn.ml.org (fcn105-99.tmi.net [207.170.105.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA09768 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:00:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tsprad@spradley.dyn.ml.org) Received: from set.spradley.dyn.ml.org (tsprad@localhost.sands.com [127.0.0.1]) by set.spradley.dyn.ml.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA26266; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:18:45 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199711070518.XAA26266@set.spradley.dyn.ml.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Matthew D. Fuller" cc: Michael Knoll , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marquard@zilker.net Subject: Re: Partitioning In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 20:00:35 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:18:44 -0600 From: Ted Spradley Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 3) Don't hink ANY BSD can resize slice, but I know AIX could, even the > version 3.2.4 I used to admin. No clue how, but maybe someone else knows? > Maybe, if it works, we should integrate it? > Dave? (our AIX developer-on-call) Back me up or knock me down? AIX uses a journal file system, which is rather completely different from a BSD unix file system. I haven't figured out any of the details. It may have something in common with the Margo Seltzer log-structured file system, which everyone seems to have lost interest in. From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 21:17:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA10820 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:17:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (tcgr-29.dialup.alliance.net [207.74.43.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA10807 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:17:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA06278; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:17:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:17:39 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: Jay Nelson cc: "Matthew D. Fuller" , Michael Knoll , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marquard@zilker.net Subject: Re: Partitioning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Jay Nelson wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Michael Knoll wrote: > > > > What happened is my / slice is only 30 some megs, and when lynxs downloads > > > a file, it puts it in /tmp, which is in /. So, if I download anything > > > about 30 megs(well, less than that) it fills /. > > Try ncftp? You all missed the obvious solution -- make /tmp a symlink to /usr/tmp... (provided ample space is in /usr of course.) Matt Behrens | Help bring a free realtime communication http://www.zigg.com/ | system to the Internet. Join the NetPager matt@zigg.com | Project! http://www.zigg.com/netpager/ From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 21:41:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA11849 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:41:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from gloria.cord.edu (gloria.cord.edu [138.129.254.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA11842 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:41:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nrahlstr@gloria.cord.edu) Received: from localhost (nrahlstr@localhost) by gloria.cord.edu (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA22261 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:40:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:40:50 -0600 (CST) From: Nathan Ahlstrom To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: stable make world broken? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Not sure if this has been reported yet, but /usr/src/usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/ypxfrd_main.c has the following defined twice causing make world to die. #ifndef lint static const char rcsid[] = "$Id: ypxfrd_main.c,v 1.1.1.1.2.2 1997/11/06 07:32:21 charnier Exp $"; #endif /* not lint */ Nathan nrahlstr@gloria.cord.edu From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 22:26:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA13478 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:26:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [206.127.225.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA13471 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:25:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richard@pegasus.com) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id UAA01625; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:25:34 -1000 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:25:34 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199711070625.UAA01625@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Ted Spradley "Re: Partitioning" (Nov 6, 11:18pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Partitioning Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } > 3) Don't hink ANY BSD can resize slice, but I know AIX could, even the } > version 3.2.4 I used to admin. No clue how, but maybe someone else knows? } > Maybe, if it works, we should integrate it? } > Dave? (our AIX developer-on-call) Back me up or knock me down? } } AIX uses a journal file system, which is rather completely different from a } BSD unix file system. I haven't figured out any of the details. It may have } something in common with the Margo Seltzer log-structured file system, which } everyone seems to have lost interest in. } They call it their Journalled file system. I don't think that has anything to do with it's ability to enlarge a partition on the fly. Journalling, the keeping of an audit-trail of all disk writes, makes for a more secure filesystem that can be cleaned up more thoroughly and quickly after a crash. Back to the main question; I don't see any reason why the BSD file system couldn't be extended to allow for on-the-fly expansion of partitions. Toss in a pointer to the new space, when you feel like adding some, initialize it and continue on. Richard From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 6 23:58:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA17035 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:58:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA17025 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:58:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA15300; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:58:11 -0800 (PST) To: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Partitioning In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 20:25:34 -1000." <199711070625.UAA01625@pegasus.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:58:11 -0800 Message-ID: <15297.878889491@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Back to the main question; I don't see any reason why the BSD file system > couldn't be extended to allow for on-the-fly expansion of partitions. > Toss in a pointer to the new space, when you feel like adding some, > initialize it and continue on. We'll be happy to review your diffs, of course, but I think it's harder than you think. Jordan From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 00:21:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA17915 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:21:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA17910 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:21:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (mail.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.21]) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA03822; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 02:21:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 02:21:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Richard Foulk cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Partitioning In-Reply-To: <199711070625.UAA01625@pegasus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Richard Foulk wrote: > They call it their Journalled file system. I don't think that has > anything to do with it's ability to enlarge a partition on the fly. > > Journalling, the keeping of an audit-trail of all disk writes, makes > for a more secure filesystem that can be cleaned up more thoroughly and > quickly after a crash. > > Back to the main question; I don't see any reason why the BSD file system > couldn't be extended to allow for on-the-fly expansion of partitions. > Toss in a pointer to the new space, when you feel like adding some, > initialize it and continue on. That's not the tough part. It's essentially the same coding method as ccd's. The tough part is not just expanding, but SHRINKING partition on the fly. On the AIX system I admin'ed, we once shrunk /usr by 80 megs to put 80 megs more in /home. THAT takes a little more coding and failsafes. It'd still be a nice feature to have, tho. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 00:25:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA18116 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:25:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (eq+NOrk8B+QP/gy9N+wH5C9yYa1wGG4B@harlan.fred.net [205.252.219.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA18109 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:25:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from harlan@mumps.pfcs.com) Received: from mumps.pfcs.com (mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11]) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA29492 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by mumps.pfcs.com with SMTP id AA08427 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:25:24 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: libstdc++ doesn't compile... Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 03:25:24 -0500 Message-Id: <8425.878891124@mumps.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Seems to be missing a template: c++ -O2 -m486 -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/include/g++ -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libio -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libstdc++ -fno-implicit-templates -DC -DEXTRACT -DINSERT -DGETLINE -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libstdc++/sinst.cc -o cstrio.o /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libg++/libstdc++/sinst.cc:146: no matching template for `getline(istream &, basic_string > &)' found From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 00:34:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA18517 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:34:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from kiste.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (kiste-5.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.5.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA18512 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:34:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marko@kiste.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de) Received: (from marko@localhost) by kiste.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (8.7.6/8.7.3) id JAA10905; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:05:48 +0100 (MEZ) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:05:48 +0100 (MEZ) Message-Id: <199711070805.JAA10905@kiste.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> From: Marko Schuetz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under Emacs 20.2.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 00:36:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA18642 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:36:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [206.127.225.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA18631 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:36:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richard@pegasus.com) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id WAA02278; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:36:18 -1000 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:36:18 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199711070836.WAA02278@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" "Re: Partitioning" (Nov 6, 11:58pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: Partitioning Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } > Back to the main question; I don't see any reason why the BSD file system } > couldn't be extended to allow for on-the-fly expansion of partitions. } > Toss in a pointer to the new space, when you feel like adding some, } > initialize it and continue on. } } We'll be happy to review your diffs, of course, but I think it's harder } than you think. } Yeah, right. Things are always harder than they seem initially. Richard From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 03:05:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA24696 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:05:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from mail1.teleport.com (mail1.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA24677 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:05:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rwdickin@teleport.com) Received: from ip-eug1-02.teleport.com (ip-eug1-02.teleport.com [206.163.115.4]) by mail1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA25831 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:05:47 -0800 (PST) From: rwdickin@teleport.com (Ross Dickinson) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 11:05:57 GMT Message-ID: <3462f5f8.4401619@mail.teleport.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.01/32.397 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id DAA24680 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe Ross Dickinson -- \|/ ____ \|/ | Ross Dickinson @~/ ,. \~@ | address omitted because of spam /_( \__/ )_\ | ~ \__U_/ ~ | Smile your way through life! From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 03:46:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA26058 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:46:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA26053 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:46:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from synge.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id aa19169; 7 Nov 97 11:45 +0000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Hard wiring media type on de0 driver. Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 11:45:48 +0000 From: David Malone Message-ID: <9711071145.aa19169@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Our hubs reset themselves this morning with an interesting side effect. It takes about 90 seconds for the hubs to restart. During this time the the two machines we have with de based ethernet cards with both UTP and Co-ax connectors decided to switch to co-ax. Naturally when the hubs came back the cards didn't.... Using "ifconfig de0 media UTP" fixed the problem. At the moment I don't say what media type to use when initially ifconfig'ing the card. If I did would the card refuse to change media unless ifconfig'ed again? It would be nice to have some protection from this. David. From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 04:00:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA26623 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 04:00:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from mail.ballistic.com (root@mail.ballistic.com [208.211.146.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA26615 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 04:00:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kickin@ballistic.com) Received: from rose.ballistic.com (tpm5-16.ballistic.com [208.211.147.16]) by mail.ballistic.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22415 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 04:06:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199711071006.EAA22415@mail.ballistic.com> Reply-To: From: "Gary Ford" To: Subject: Re: stable make world broken? Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 05:57:50 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I second that. Very much a time killer. Thanks in advance for the timely repair, and keep up the great work stable team. Gary Ford Tyler, TX ---------- > From: Nathan Ahlstrom > To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: stable make world broken? > Date: Thursday, November 06, 1997 11:40 PM > > Not sure if this has been reported yet, but > /usr/src/usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/ypxfrd_main.c > has the following defined twice causing > make world to die. > > #ifndef lint > static const char rcsid[] = > "$Id: ypxfrd_main.c,v 1.1.1.1.2.2 1997/11/06 07:32:21 charnier Exp $"; > #endif /* not lint */ > > Nathan > nrahlstr@gloria.cord.edu > From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 16:15:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA03454 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:15:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from tok.qiv.com (/J9RuNuUkeUu4h9vgmnF9jYCtwXW9ovu@[204.214.141.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03449 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:15:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdn@qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with UUCP id SAA16668; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:15:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA00951; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:03:53 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: acp.qiv.com: jdn owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:03:52 -0600 (CST) From: Jay Nelson To: "Matthew D. Fuller" cc: Richard Foulk , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Partitioning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm _really_ interested in knowing how you reduced an AIX file system on the fly without blowing your feet off. The "official" way to reduce an AIX file system is a restore from a mksysb. I'd also like to see the journaled file system complete for FreeBSD, but I don't have the skill -- or the time to learn. I agree with Jordan. It's a far bigger job than it would seem. And, after all, I'm happy with what I've got -- so why tinker with it? -- Jay On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Richard Foulk wrote: > > > They call it their Journalled file system. I don't think that has > > anything to do with it's ability to enlarge a partition on the fly. > > > > Journalling, the keeping of an audit-trail of all disk writes, makes > > for a more secure filesystem that can be cleaned up more thoroughly and > > quickly after a crash. > > > > Back to the main question; I don't see any reason why the BSD file system > > couldn't be extended to allow for on-the-fly expansion of partitions. > > Toss in a pointer to the new space, when you feel like adding some, > > initialize it and continue on. > That's not the tough part. It's essentially the same coding method as > ccd's. > The tough part is not just expanding, but SHRINKING partition on the fly. > On the AIX system I admin'ed, we once shrunk /usr by 80 megs to put 80 > megs more in /home. THAT takes a little more coding and failsafes. It'd > still be a nice feature to have, tho. > > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | > * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * > | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| > * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * > | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > > -- Jay From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 17:50:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA08904 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:50:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from vader.cs (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA08885 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:50:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@sunset.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by vader.cs (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA02132; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:50:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:50:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711080150.RAA02132@vader.cs> To: fullermd@futuresouth.com CC: richard@pegasus.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (fullermd@futuresouth.com) Subject: Re: Partitioning From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * > Back to the main question; I don't see any reason why the BSD file system * > couldn't be extended to allow for on-the-fly expansion of partitions. * > Toss in a pointer to the new space, when you feel like adding some, * > initialize it and continue on. * That's not the tough part. It's essentially the same coding method as * ccd's. What do you mean? ccd is not a filesystem. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 17:56:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA09225 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:56:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA09216 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 17:56:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (mail.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.21]) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA02025; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:56:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:56:23 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Satoshi Asami cc: richard@pegasus.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Partitioning In-Reply-To: <199711080150.RAA02132@vader.cs> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * > Back to the main question; I don't see any reason why the BSD file system > * > couldn't be extended to allow for on-the-fly expansion of partitions. > * > Toss in a pointer to the new space, when you feel like adding some, > * > initialize it and continue on. > * That's not the tough part. It's essentially the same coding method as > * ccd's. > > What do you mean? ccd is not a filesystem. I know. What I meant was, it looks to me like, the code for expanding filesystems would seem to be a lot like the code for implementing ccd'd partitions; you just map various physical places on the disk(s) to the same logical partition. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 19:30:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA13285 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:30:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from tok.qiv.com (+7dMLPc7CkI8WzyTM54F7zVG+WnTaSTD@[204.214.141.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA13280 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:30:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdn@qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with UUCP id VAA16905; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:30:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01221; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:21:01 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: acp.qiv.com: jdn owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:21:01 -0600 (CST) From: Jay Nelson To: "Matthew D. Fuller" cc: Satoshi Asami , richard@pegasus.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Partitioning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: [snip] > > What do you mean? ccd is not a filesystem. > I know. > What I meant was, it looks to me like, the code for expanding filesystems > would seem to be a lot like the code for implementing ccd'd partitions; > you just map various physical places on the disk(s) to the same logical > partition. [snip] AIX maps 4Mb physical "partitions" to logical partitions. Physical partitions scattered all over the disk are mapped to a linear logical sequence of partitions. So, in a sense, it probably isn't that much different than ccd. But I'm not that enthusiastic about LVM. As near as I can tell, AIX implements the basic Berkeley filesystem and has completed the journaling. When you expand a file system, I don't believe you gain any more inodes. AIX also uses a number of other structures that are unique -- Volume Descriptor Blocks, for example, which keep track of quorums (for mirroring and "volume groups") and other data related to the current state of the file system. All of this "convenience" implies overhead -- or a massive overhaul of the current file system code. You also have to realize that to make this work, you have to leave portions of the disk(s) unallocated. You could probably simulate this by allocating calendars 0-99, 200-299, etc., and then relabeling the disk when you want to expand. Seems like a waste of space to me given the FFS allocation policies. IMHO, I wouldn't want to invest 1+ man years to implement a convenience to save a 2 or 3 time a year annoyance. (I'd also hate to see FreeBSD broken while it's implemented.) 2000+ hours to implement vs. 2-8 hour backup/rebuild/restore -- plus (gurus correct me if I'm wrong) it takes 4-8 cycles to dereference a pointer -- so you're coming close to doubling file acces time. The dog don't hunt. -- Jay From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 7 23:40:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA21666 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 23:40:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA21660; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 23:40:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joerg@FreeBSD.org) From: Joerg Wunsch Received: (from joerg@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) id XAA29381; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 23:39:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 23:39:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711080739.XAA29381@freefall.freebsd.org> To: announce@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fatal bug in 2.2.5R's lpd Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When merging the new `ct' printcap functionality into 2.2-stable right before 2.2.5-RELEASE was due, it's now apparent that I didn't test it enough before. :-( I've introduced a fatal bug that causes all the lpd children sending jobs to remote printers to be killed after the `ct' timeout, even in case the connection came up properly. For small jobs, you won't notice this immediately (the default timeout is 120 seconds, and modern printers can print a lot within this time), but large jobs will ultimately be aborted then. Sorry for the inconvenience. For those of you who do need to operate on remote printers, please either do upgrade to the latest 2.2-stable, or apply the patch below, rebuild and reinstall your lpd. Sorry again, Joerg Index: src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_source/displayq.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_source/displayq.c,v retrieving revision 1.4.2.5 retrieving revision 1.4.2.6 diff -u -u -r1.4.2.5 -r1.4.2.6 --- displayq.c 1997/10/15 12:25:35 1.4.2.5 +++ displayq.c 1997/11/07 13:20:29 1.4.2.6 @@ -242,6 +242,7 @@ savealrm = signal(SIGALRM, alarmhandler); alarm(CT); fd = getport(RM, 0); + alarm(0); (void)signal(SIGALRM, savealrm); if (fd < 0) { if (from != host) Index: src/usr.sbin/lpr/lpd/printjob.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/lpr/lpd/printjob.c,v retrieving revision 1.11.2.3 retrieving revision 1.11.2.4 diff -u -u -r1.11.2.3 -r1.11.2.4 --- printjob.c 1997/10/15 09:56:00 1.11.2.3 +++ printjob.c 1997/11/07 13:20:37 1.11.2.4 @@ -1474,6 +1474,7 @@ savealrm = signal(SIGALRM, alarmhandler); alarm(CT); pfd = getport(cp, port); + alarm(0); (void)signal(SIGALRM, savealrm); if (pfd < 0 && errno == ECONNREFUSED) resp = 1; @@ -1541,6 +1542,7 @@ savealrm = signal(SIGALRM, alarmhandler); alarm(CT); pfd = getport(RM, 0); + alarm(0); (void)signal(SIGALRM, savealrm); if (pfd >= 0) { (void) snprintf(line, sizeof(line), "\2%s\n", RP); From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 8 10:41:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA17975 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:41:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA17956 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:40:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie via local-salmon id aa04247; 8 Nov 97 18:40 +0000 To: Wes Peters cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hard wiring media type on de0 driver. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Nov 1997 21:29:09 MST." <199711080429.VAA25638@obie.softweyr.ml.org> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 18:40:48 +0000 From: David Malone Message-ID: <9711081840.aa04247@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Nope, they'll shut off anytime you lose the connectivity. I don't think > they actually switched; "ifconfig de0 up" will bring them back also. > I'd suggest either a better hub (90 seconds to restart a hub?) or a UPS > for your network stack. I have suggestions on quality networking > components if you're in the market. ;^) Its actually a Cisco Catalyst 2500 - We were given them 'cos they have a nasty bug if you have TCP/IP turned on. On the whole they are fine. I'm not actually sure why it fell over - I don't think it was a power problem. Maybe I should put a "ifconfig de0 media UTP" in cron.... David. From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 8 12:54:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA23050 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:54:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from yoss.canweb.net (root@yoss.canweb.net [207.139.235.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA23045 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:54:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yossman@yoss.canweb.net) Received: from localhost (yossman@localhost) by yoss.canweb.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA29348; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 15:44:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 15:44:49 -0500 (EST) From: yossman To: Vladimir Litovka cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd disk manager? In-Reply-To: <63hml3$3jb$1@grunt.vl.net.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk it's probably also helpful to point out a little bit of procedure when it comes to this. you run sysinstall, go to 'configure', then 'partition', then 'label'. as you are finishing with the 'label' step, instead of '(Q)uiting', use the '(W)rite' command. it will do the pending partition and label functions, and on my system at least, automatically mounts them too. i then exit sysinstall, do 'df', find out what the new device names are for my new partitions, and make the correct entries in /etc/fstab. i used to go through a very tricky process of adding drives until i realized using sysinstall this way was pretty much reliable and CERTAINLY easier. one final note, i don't know if you have to make device entries for the new drive ahead of time in /dev. i believe they were there already for me (wd2*), your system may vary (i'm using 2.2.2-R on most boxes). yossman On 2 Nov 1997, Vladimir Litovka wrote: > Hello! > > Morgan Davis wrote: > > > labeling disks is nice. Is there a similar utility one could use on > > an existing system? > > /stand/sysinstall > > -- > Vladimir Litovka , hostmaster of vl.net.ua > ======== Don't trouble trouble until trouble troubles you. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Yossarian Holmberg (yossman) yossman@yossman.org System Administrator, National Online http://www.yossman.org/ my statements are my own, not my employer's -- i do not speak for them. '... and if i die, before i learn to speak .. can money pay for all the days i've lived awake but half asleep?' -- Primitive Radio Gods, "Standing Outside a Broken Phone Booth With Money In My Hand" From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 8 17:00:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA03811 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 17:00:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from roguetrader.com (root@cold.org [206.81.134.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA03806 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 17:00:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@roguetrader.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by roguetrader.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA22950; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 18:00:49 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 18:00:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711090100.SAA22950@roguetrader.com> Subject: ERRATA NOTICE: FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE From: freebsd-errata-update@roguetrader.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ****************************************************************** ** THIS IS AN AUTOMATIC ERRATA UPDATE FOR FREEBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE ** ****************************************************************** You can retrieve the complete ERRATA from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.5-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT The last update was sent: Fri Nov 7 19:31:20 1997 This update is sent: Sat Nov 8 18:00:48 1997 ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- SYSTEM ERRATA INFORMATION: o The line printer spooler lpd will, when sending jobs to remote printers, kill the child process sending to the remote after the timeout specified in the `ct' capability (2 minutes by default). For a fix, please upgrade the lpd subsystem to 2.2-stable. As a workaround, increase the `ct' capability to an unreasonably large number of seconds (like 3600). From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 8 18:05:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA06678 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 18:05:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from ladakh.stepnet.com (ladakh.stepnet.com [206.14.120.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA06670 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 18:05:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping@stepnet.com) Received: from stepnet.com (localhost.stepnet.com [127.0.0.1]) by ladakh.stepnet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA01822 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 18:01:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping@stepnet.com) Message-ID: <3465197A.5540BEB4@stepnet.com> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 18:01:32 -0800 From: Ping Mai Reply-To: ping@stepnet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe