From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun May 17 07:29:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26125 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 07:29:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay1.bcs.zp.ua (bcs-ts33.zcn.net [195.123.8.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26036 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 07:27:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serg@bcs.zp.ua) Received: from bcs3.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (bcs3.bcs.zp.ua [195.123.10.73]) by relay1.bcs.zp.ua (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07597 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:27:07 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from serg@localhost) by bcs3.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28932 for freebsd-mozilla@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:27:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from serg) From: Sergey Shkonda Message-Id: <199805171427.RAA28932@bcs3.bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua> Subject: Cyrrilic support To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 17:27:14 +0300 (EEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thist patch allow displaying CP_1251 charset via KOI8-R fonts *** lib/libi18n/fe_ccc.c.orig Fri May 15 20:25:00 1998 --- lib/libi18n/fe_ccc.c Fri May 15 20:26:41 1998 *************** *** 436,441 **** --- 436,445 ---- /* CYRILLIC */ {CS_KOI8_R, CS_KOI8_R, 0, NULL, 0}, {CS_8859_5, CS_8859_5, 0, NULL, 0}, + + {CS_CP_1251, CS_KOI8_R, 0, (CCCFunc)One2OneCCC, 0}, + {CS_KOI8_R, CS_CP_1251, 0, (CCCFunc)One2OneCCC, 0}, + {CS_8859_5, CS_KOI8_R, 0, (CCCFunc)One2OneCCC, 0}, {CS_KOI8_R, CS_8859_5, 0, (CCCFunc)One2OneCCC, 0}, {CS_CP_1251, CS_8859_5, 0, (CCCFunc)One2OneCCC, 0}, *** lib/libi18n/sbconvtb.c.orig Fri May 15 20:23:45 1998 --- lib/libi18n/sbconvtb.c Fri May 15 20:42:41 1998 *************** *** 110,115 **** --- 110,143 ---- }; PRIVATE char *koi8r_to_iso8859_5_p = (char*)koi8r_to_iso8859_5; + /* Translation koi8r -> cp1251 + */ + PRIVATE unsigned char koi8r_to_cp1251[] = { + /*8x*/ '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', + /*9x*/ '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?',0xA0, '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', + /*Ax*/ 0x87,0x92,0xAD,0xB8,0xBA,0xA1,0xB3,0xBF,0x93,0xAC,0xAB,0xA0,0x96,0xB4,0x94,0x9E, + /*Bx*/ 0x9F,0xA4,0x8D,0xA8,0xAA,0x91,0xB2,0xAF,0xA3,0xA7,0x82,0xA2,0xB0,0xA5,0xA6,0xBC, + /*Cx*/ 0xFE,0xE0,0xE1,0xF6,0xE4,0xE5,0xF4,0xE3,0xF5,0xE8,0xE9,0xEA,0xEB,0xEC,0xED,0xEE, + /*Dx*/ 0xEF,0xFF,0xF0,0xF1,0xF2,0xF3,0xE6,0xE2,0xFC,0xFB,0xE7,0xF8,0xFD,0xF9,0xF7,0xFA, + /*Ex*/ 0xDE,0xC0,0xC1,0xD6,0xC4,0xC5,0xD4,0xC3,0xD5,0xC8,0xC9,0xCA,0xCB,0xCC,0xCD,0xCE, + /*Fx*/ 0xCF,0xDF,0xD0,0xD1,0xD2,0xD3,0xC6,0xC2,0xDC,0xDB,0xC7,0xD8,0xDD,0xD9,0xD7,0xDA, + }; + PRIVATE char *koi8r_to_cp1251_p = (char*)koi8r_to_cp1251; + + /* Translation koi8r -> cp1251 + */ + PRIVATE unsigned char cp1251_to_koi8r[] = { + /*8x*/ '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', + /*9x*/ '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', '?',0xA0, '?', '?', '?', '?', '?', + /*Ax*/ 0xAB,0xA5,0xBB,0xB8,0xB1,0xBD,0xBE,0xB9,0xB3,0x93,0xB4,0xAA,0xA9,0xA2,0x95,0xB7, + /*Bx*/ 0xBC,0x85,0xB6,0xA6,0xAD,0x8E,0x8F,0x8B,0xA3,0x9A,0xA4,0x96,0xBF,0x9D,0x94,0xA7, + /*Cx*/ 0xE1,0xE2,0xF7,0xE7,0xE4,0xE5,0xF6,0xFA,0xE9,0xEA,0xEB,0xEC,0xED,0xEE,0xEF,0xF0, + /*Dx*/ 0xF2,0xF3,0xF4,0xF5,0xE6,0xE8,0xE3,0xFE,0xFB,0xFD,0xFF,0xF9,0xF8,0xFC,0xE0,0xF1, + /*Ex*/ 0xC1,0xC2,0xD7,0xC7,0xC4,0xC5,0xD6,0xDA,0xC9,0xCA,0xCB,0xCC,0xCD,0xCE,0xCF,0xD0, + /*Fx*/ 0xD2,0xD3,0xD4,0xD5,0xC6,0xC8,0xC3,0xDE,0xDB,0xDD,0xDF,0xD9,0xD8,0xDC,0xC0,0xD1, + }; + PRIVATE char *cp1251_to_koi8r_p = (char*)cp1251_to_koi8r; + /* Translation cp1250 -> 8859-2 * There are 32 characters unmapped: * 80 - 89, 8B, 90 - 99, 9B, A6, A9, AB, AC, AE, B1, B5, B6, B7, BB *************** *** 223,228 **** --- 251,262 ---- } /* CYRILLIC */ + else if ((from_csid == CS_CP_1251) && (to_csid == CS_KOI8_R)) { + return &cp1251_to_koi8r_p; + } + else if ((from_csid == CS_KOI8_R) && (to_csid == CS_CP_1251)) { + return &koi8r_to_cp1251_p; + } else if ((from_csid == CS_8859_5) && (to_csid == CS_KOI8_R)) { return &iso8859_5_to_koi8r_p; } -- Sergey Shkonda (serg@bcs.zaporizhzhe.ua) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon May 18 22:15:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA12523 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:15:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cceast-itac.cceast-itac.csupomona.edu (cceast-itac.cceast-itac.csupomona.edu [134.71.168.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12435 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:14:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jehamby@cceast-itac.cceast-itac.csupomona.edu) Received: from localhost (jehamby@localhost) by cceast-itac.cceast-itac.csupomona.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id WAA27247 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:14:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jake E. Hamby" To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CVS questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, How are you keeping the FreeBSD Mozilla CVS repository in sync with Mozilla's? Are you actually importing the changes from the main repository automatically, or are you manually performing code drops with cvs import? I looked around for any information I can find on CVS mirroring, but couldn't find anything on the FreeBSD site or elsewhere. Is this some well-kept secret, or is it something really easy, like performing an rdist on the ,v files in CVSROOT? I seem to remember a post from Jordan on the Mozilla list back in April asking for more direct access to their CVS repository so that mirroring could be performed more easily. Did they ever give you what you asked for? From the cvs logs I was able to extract from mozilla.freebsd.org, I'm guessing not, because the code appears to be imported on a vendor branch. The reason I ask is that I'd like to set up a CVS repository for the BeOS port of Mozilla (on a FreeBSD server of course!) so that changes to the main tree are imported as painlessly as possible. Another requirement for me is that I'd like users to be able to grab a tarball from Mozilla's FTP site (or one of its mirrors), then only run a CVS update to get the BeOS files, so as not to overload my cable modem. The problem is that if I import the code as a vendor branch, then all of the CVS/Entries files in the Mozilla tarball are different and CVS ends up redownloading everything, even if I munge the CVS/Repository and CVS/Root files with a script like the mungezilla example on the Mozilla website. I think I should be able to make a tiny tarball containing only my CVS/Entries files, so this isn't a major stumbling block, though if it's possible to directly mirror the Mozilla CVS repository so that version numbers are preserved, this would be a big win (if for no other reason than users could browse the Mozilla team changes as well as the BeOS changes from the same repository). TIA for any help you can give me, and my apologies for the not-directly-FreeBSD-related post. -Jake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon May 18 22:56:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20219 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:56:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20032 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:55:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA10049; Mon, 18 May 1998 22:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: "Jake E. Hamby" cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS questions In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 18 May 1998 22:14:40 PDT." Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:55:54 -0700 Message-ID: <10045.895557354@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > How are you keeping the FreeBSD Mozilla CVS repository in sync with > Mozilla's? Are you actually importing the changes from the main > repository automatically, or are you manually performing code drops with > cvs import? I looked around for any information I can find on CVS Manually importing their stuff on the vendor branch whenever they release one of those massive release tarballs. I know of no provisions for "cvs mirroring" with anything but cvsup/cvsupd. > access to their CVS repository so that mirroring could be performed more > easily. Did they ever give you what you asked for? From the cvs logs I Nope. :( - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue May 19 00:23:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07709 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:23:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcatel.fr (gatekeeper.alcatel.fr [194.133.58.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07665; Tue, 19 May 1998 00:22:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr) From: THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr Received: from alcatel.fr (gatekeeper-ssn.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.244]) by mailgate.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP.9.9.9) with ESMTP id JAA28389; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:27:10 +0200 Received: from aifhs1.alcatel.fr (aifhs1.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.86]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id JAA07819; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:17:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aifhs1.alcatel.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21779; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:20:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id JAA07771; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:16:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09313; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:21:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08230; Tue, 19 May 98 09:11:09 +0200 Received: from localhost by telspace.alcatel.fr with SMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA125341667; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:07:47 +0200 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 19 May 98 09:07:36 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000301bd82bd$39a0a0e0$64468094@Elvis.RatsNest.VaBeach.> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9p_:_Mozilla??= Mime-Version: 1.0 To: SimsS@IBM.Net Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="Mozilla?" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Mozilla?" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id AAA07682 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just installed a pre-compiled package of mozilla on my home machine look in FreeBSD-stable/packages/www (on the tfp server) TfH PS : I would like to know how to compile it, also. ____________________________ Séparateur Réponse ________________________________ Objet : Mozilla? Auteur : SimsS@IBM.Net Date : 19/05/98 01:22 Did a FreeBSD-native port /package of Mozilla ever get produced? If so, where can one find a binary for 2.2.6-RELEASE? http://www.mozilla.org is a wash-out :-( TIA, ...sjs... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue May 19 01:55:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23871 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 01:55:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA23832 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 01:54:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Tom@mercia.com) Received: from (www.mercialincs.com) [194.217.81.2] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0ybiAW-0007RL-00; Tue, 19 May 1998 08:54:44 +0000 Received: by mailgate.mercia.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:57:42 +0100 Message-ID: <9500FBE37C19D1118D2200A0C907E0A530E29B@MERCIA_2> From: Tom Brown To: "'freeBSD-Mozilla@freebsd.org'" Subject: gmake fails to find Xm. Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:55:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm trying to install netscape5 onto my BSD 2.2.6 machine, after installing gmake and running it I get a message that seems to relate to not having Xm, which seems to be something to do with motif. I am told motif is not GNU so what do I need to get the system running? If it's a question of finding something on the CD-ROM distribution what and where is it. Thanks for your time. Tom Brown tom@mercia.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue May 19 06:41:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15059 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 06:41:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from johngalt.celestial.com (johngalt.celestial.com [192.136.111.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA15013 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 06:41:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raindrop.seaslug.org!unger@celestial.com) Received: from localhost (2299 bytes) by johngalt.celestial.com via rmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 06:40:59 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #8 built 1998-May-2) Received: from localhost (unger@localhost) by raindrop.seaslug.org (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA21992 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 06:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 06:37:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Unger Reply-To: Thomas Unger To: freeBSD-Mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gmake fails to find Xm. In-Reply-To: <9500FBE37C19D1118D2200A0C907E0A530E29B@MERCIA_2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have the same problem, I assume because I don't have motif installed. Top level docs says that lestif may be substituded with some chance of success. Should I try that? Any other free solutions? Actually, I'm not interested in working on the code so much as I am in tracking progress. If you keep producing compiled packages it will meet my needs nicely. ooooo -- Tom Unger oo\ oo Wet Weather Consulting o \ o (206)325-7403 o B I\V I o o \ o oo \oo ooooo On Tue, 19 May 1998, Tom Brown wrote: > Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:55:35 +0100 > From: Tom Brown > To: "'freeBSD-Mozilla@freebsd.org'" > Subject: gmake fails to find Xm. > > Hi, > I'm trying to install netscape5 onto my BSD 2.2.6 machine, after installing > gmake and running it I get a message that seems to relate to not having Xm, > which seems to be something to do with motif. I am told motif is not GNU so > what do I need to get the system running? If it's a question of finding > something on the CD-ROM distribution what and where is it. > > Thanks for your time. > > Tom Brown tom@mercia.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue May 19 09:31:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20660 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:31:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20624; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jer@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA04374; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:30:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:30:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr cc: SimsS@IBM.Net, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9p_:_Mozilla??= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id JAA20625 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 19 May 1998 THIERRY.HERBELOT@telspace.alcatel.fr wrote: > I've just installed a pre-compiled package of mozilla on my home > machine > look in FreeBSD-stable/packages/www (on the tfp server) > > TfH > > PS : I would like to know how to compile it, also. > You don't compile it twice. After you installed it (using pkg_add) you simply run it from X. (ie, "netscape &") If you would prefer to compile your own from source, download it from netscape.com. > > ____________________________ Séparateur Réponse ________________________________ > Objet : Mozilla? > Auteur : SimsS@IBM.Net > Date : 19/05/98 01:22 > > > Did a FreeBSD-native port /package of Mozilla ever get produced? > > If so, where can one find a binary for 2.2.6-RELEASE? > > http://www.mozilla.org is a wash-out :-( > > TIA, > > ...sjs... > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue May 19 09:38:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22445 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:38:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22239 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:37:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12547; Tue, 19 May 1998 09:37:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Tom Brown cc: "'freeBSD-Mozilla@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: gmake fails to find Xm. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 May 1998 09:55:35 BST." <9500FBE37C19D1118D2200A0C907E0A530E29B@MERCIA_2> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:37:45 -0700 Message-ID: <12543.895595865@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm trying to install netscape5 onto my BSD 2.2.6 machine, after installing > gmake and running it I get a message that seems to relate to not having Xm, You need to buy Motif - it's a commercial product. See www.xig.com. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue May 19 10:44:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05161 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 10:44:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05118 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 10:44:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12847; Tue, 19 May 1998 10:44:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Thomas Unger cc: freeBSD-Mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gmake fails to find Xm. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 May 1998 06:37:53 PDT." Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 10:44:30 -0700 Message-ID: <12844.895599870@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have the same problem, I assume because I don't have motif installed. > Top level docs says that lestif may be substituded with some chance of > success. Should I try that? Any other free solutions? What you wind up with using lesstif won't, unfortunately, even really approach usability right now. Perhaps later, but until now it's really Motif 1.2 or nothing (even 2.0 has known and annoying problems which are doc'd on their web page). - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue May 19 15:09:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29128 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from edtech.edtech.csupomona.edu (edtech.edtech.csupomona.edu [134.71.136.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29035 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:09:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jehamby@intranet.csupomona.edu) Received: from localhost (jehamby@localhost) by edtech.edtech.csupomona.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA02289; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:09:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: edtech.edtech.csupomona.edu: jehamby owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:09:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jake E. Hamby" X-Sender: jehamby@edtech.edtech.csupomona.edu To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Thomas Unger , freeBSD-Mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gmake fails to find Xm. In-Reply-To: <12844.895599870@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 19 May 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > What you wind up with using lesstif won't, unfortunately, even really > approach usability right now. Perhaps later, but until now it's > really Motif 1.2 or nothing (even 2.0 has known and annoying problems > which are doc'd on their web page). What about the Qt port that TrollTech did? I haven't done a side-by-side usability comparison between that and lesstif, but it's worth a look. It should be possible to merge both versions into the source tree, I suspect. Here's the info on QtScape: http://www.troll.no/qtscape/ -Jake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue May 19 16:56:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20485 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:56:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from yangtze.cs.umd.edu (fwmiller@yangtze.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20466 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fwmiller@cs.umd.edu) Received: by yangtze.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA11381; Tue, 19 May 1998 19:55:33 -0400 (EDT) From: fwmiller@cs.umd.edu (Frank W. Miller) Message-Id: <199805192355.TAA11381@yangtze.cs.umd.edu> Subject: Motif requirement To: freeBSD-Mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Cc: fwmiller@cs.umd.edu (Frank W. Miller) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just out of curiosity, is there any thought to removing the requirement for using Motif? It's not just that Motif costs money, I just plain don't like it. MHO of course. Later, FM -- Frank W. Miller Department of Computer Science fwmiller@cs.umd.edu University of Maryland http://www.cs.umd.edu/~fwmiller College Park, Maryland 20742 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue May 19 18:12:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03997 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03955 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:11:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14697; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:24:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: "Jake E. Hamby" cc: Thomas Unger , freeBSD-Mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gmake fails to find Xm. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 May 1998 15:09:15 PDT." Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:24:16 -0700 Message-ID: <14693.895623856@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What about the Qt port that TrollTech did? I haven't done a side-by-side > usability comparison between that and lesstif, but it's worth a look. It I have. They're both very green. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Wed May 20 00:16:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03715 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 00:16:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA03618 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 00:15:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Tom@mercia.com) Received: from (www.mercialincs.com) [194.217.81.2] by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yc35k-00015Q-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:15:12 +0000 Received: by mailgate.mercia.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:18:13 +0100 Message-ID: <9500FBE37C19D1118D2200A0C907E0A530E2B0@MERCIA_2> From: Tom Brown To: "'freebsd-mozilla@freebsd.org'" Subject: Suggestion for inclusion in README file ! Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:16:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Thanks to all those that replied to my questions about Motif. I would suggest to anyone listening at mozilla, that Motif, gmake etc.. are added to a list of required packages, to give some prior notice to those brave enough to compile the source. I found the precompiled source version (Thanks Thierry !) and once it's ftp'd I will attempt to get it running. Tom Brown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sat May 23 07:19:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00515 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 07:19:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elit.elit.chernigov.ua (elit.elit.chernigov.ua [193.125.84.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00478 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 07:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from al@cn.ua) Received: from cn.ua (al@dragon.cinet.cn.ua [193.125.84.115]) by elit.elit.chernigov.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04913 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 17:19:33 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3566DAF4.4AA87D76@cn.ua> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:19:32 +0300 From: Alexey Lukin Organization: JSC CINET X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Motif requirement References: <6jt9g3$ejd@elit.elit.chernigov.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Frank W. Miller wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, is there any thought to removing the requirement > for using Motif? It's not just that Motif costs money, I just plain > don't like it. MHO of course. Yeah, I do not like it too. What about qtZilla as base for port? QT library (www.troll.no) is very good and according to KDE (www.kde.org) project will remain in public domain. TrollTech already has working port of Mozilla and QT runs on huge number of platforms. Why not? LessTiff seems to be reliable and stable but it's Motiff clone with traditional drawbacks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sat May 23 09:49:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14926 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 09:49:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14885 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 09:49:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adric@adric.com) Received: from adric.com (camel17.mindspring.com [207.69.200.67]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04100 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 12:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35670B96.728A1D78@adric.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:47:03 -0400 From: Adric Organization: adric.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Motif requirement References: <6jt9g3$ejd@elit.elit.chernigov.ua> <3566DAF4.4AA87D76@cn.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alexey Lukin wrote: > Hi! > Frank W. Miller wrote: > > > > Just out of curiosity, is there any thought to removing the requirement > > for using Motif? It's not just that Motif costs money, I just plain > > don't like it. MHO of course. > > Yeah, I do not like it too. What about qtZilla as base for port? > > QT library (www.troll.no) is very good and according to KDE > (www.kde.org) > project will remain in public domain. > TrollTech already has working port of Mozilla and QT runs on huge number > of platforms. > Why not? Restricted license. QT is not free for commercial development, and this conflictswith the FreeBSD license. Use GTK or lesstif please? > > > LessTiff seems to be reliable and stable but it's Motiff clone with > traditional drawbacks. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sat May 23 17:47:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28002 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 17:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (garbanzo@spain-2.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27967 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 17:47:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA11566; Sat, 23 May 1998 17:48:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:48:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: Adric cc: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Motif requirement In-Reply-To: <35670B96.728A1D78@adric.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 23 May 1998, Adric wrote: > Alexey Lukin wrote: > > > Hi! > > Frank W. Miller wrote: > > > > > > Just out of curiosity, is there any thought to removing the requirement > > > for using Motif? It's not just that Motif costs money, I just plain > > > don't like it. MHO of course. > > > > Yeah, I do not like it too. What about qtZilla as base for port? > > > > QT library (www.troll.no) is very good and according to KDE > > (www.kde.org) > > project will remain in public domain. > > TrollTech already has working port of Mozilla and QT runs on huge number > > of platforms. > > Why not? > > Restricted license. QT is not free for commercial development, and this > conflictswith the FreeBSD license. Use GTK or lesstif please? Motif is neither. Gtk and lesstif are buggier than Motif 1.2 and Qt 1.33. Why not? BTW, have you attempted to do a hello world type program in Qt v. any of the afformentioned C toolkits? If you have, you'll probably see why IMO Qt is worth the $1200 per developer (not end user). - alex | "Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern | | technology. Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat." | | Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message