From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Sep 29 14:57:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8758C158BE for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:57:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28897 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:57:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id XAA73716 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:57:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B2D1596D for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:54:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28868 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:54:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id XAA73657 for freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:54:14 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:54:13 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: arch moving to ad-hoc moderation Message-ID: <19990929235413.C71340@bitbox.follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Due to people being reluctant to use -arch when it is moderated (so they know things will take time), we are changing the policy for the arch list. It is now being switched to a different moderation style, which I prefer to call "ad-hoc" moderation. Basically, this means that the moderation policy will change as the list use changes, but will mainly be geared towards automatic approval of messages. The filter that is active right now pass in all messages. If I see a problem with a thread, I am going to change the filter so that thread falls into my regular moderation mailbox. If this doesn't work out too well (as in us getting a lot of noise) I'll look at some other changes, but this is it for now. Enjoy! Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Sep 29 15:12:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C348615081 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:12:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA29036 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:12:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id AAA73825 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:12:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from niobe.ewox.org (isdn-13.follo.net [195.204.140.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BAF15285 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:11:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@niobe.ewox.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by niobe.ewox.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA25255; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:11:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: arch@freebsd.org Subject: First post! From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 30 Sep 1999 00:11:23 +0200 Message-ID: <86aeq574hg.fsf@niobe.ewox.org> Lines: 5 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (EE is going to kill me for this.) DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Oct 2 3:19:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA3515614 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 03:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29309 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:17:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id MAA91964 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:17:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4151510C; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 03:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p23-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.163.200.120]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id TAA19729; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:16:54 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37F5D9FB.D121CF79@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 19:10:03 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: John Polstra , Alan Cox , arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Now that sigcontext is gone ... References: <19990930162834.C20978@nonpc.cs.rice.edu> <19991002011955.A85828@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [redirecting to -arch as a test-case] David O'Brien wrote: > > > > P.S. This also reminds me that FreeBSD is non-standard relative > > > to Linux and all of the major vender commercial Unices in that a disallowed > > > access, such as a write to a read-only region of memory, generates > > > a SIGBUS rather than a SIGSEGV. > > > > Yes, this even violates the 1996 POSIX spec. > > So lets make the change for 4.0. :-) > > Just how much code will break? Well, it won't break any POSIX code, that's sure... :-) I like having the distinction this provides, but since this is stricly freebsd-i386, I'd wager we won't have too much trouble making the change. After all, if freebsd-alpha works ok in a POSIX-compatible way... -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org Rule 69: Do unto other's code as you'd have it done unto yours To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Oct 2 5: 8:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FF414F8D for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:08:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00234 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:08:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id OAA92386 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:08:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B64A14F8D for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:08:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA63222; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:08:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id FAA86511; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:08:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:08:12 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Now that sigcontext is gone ... Message-ID: <19991002050811.G7256@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19990930162834.C20978@nonpc.cs.rice.edu> <19991002011955.A85828@dragon.nuxi.com> <37F5D9FB.D121CF79@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <37F5D9FB.D121CF79@newsguy.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > [redirecting to -arch as a test-case] Yes, lets. On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 07:10:03PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > > > > > Yes, this even violates the 1996 POSIX spec. > > I like having the distinction this provides, but since this is stricly > freebsd-i386, I really don't think the "distinction" is worth it if we are out of POSIX spec, and in left-field from other Unixes. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message