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Synopsis: mknod(8) page refers to non-existent file device.<architecture>

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The following reply was made to PR docs/35730; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dima Dorfman <dima@trit.org>
To: swear@blarg.net
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/35730: mknod(8) page refers to non-existent file device.<architecture> 
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:51:51 +0000

 "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net> wrote:
 > >Fix:
 > 
 > Determine which file documents major/minor device numbers, if any,
 > and either replace the filename or remove the stuff following the
 > /dev/MAKEDEV reference.
 
 It's sys/conf/majors.  I fixed this in -current about four months ago,
 but somehow forgot to MFC it.
 
 > In the "Compatibility" section, change "wound" to "would" and
 > change "chown(8) like functionality" to "chown(8)-like functionality"
 > (or reword it).
 
 Fixed.  I'll MFC the above change when I do this one.

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The following reply was made to PR docs/35620; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dima Dorfman <dima@trit.org>
To: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@freebsd.org>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/35620: make release fails in documentation for RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_5 as of Feb 28th 
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:59:48 +0000

 "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@freebsd.org> wrote:
 >  If memory serves me right, Adrian Steinmann wrote:
 >  
 >  > 	It seems that as of Feb 27th the
 >  > 	src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml file
 >  > 	contains <port> tags which causes make release on the RELENG_4_5
 >  > 	branch to fail because that tag is not defined.
 >  
 >  Support for <port> was removed, for reasons that are too long to go into
 >  here (the discussion is in the doc@ archive).
 >  
 >  As a work around, you can try building your release like this:
 >  
 >  make release RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_5 DOCRELEASETAG=RELEASE_4_5_0 ...
 ...
 >  It'd be nice if this "just worked", but I'm opposed to messing around
 >  with the release documentation on the security fix branches just to fix
 >  this.
 
 I agree with this.  Do you have any suggestions on where we could
 document the fact that building older release notes with a newer doc
 tree may not work?  I'm mostly interested in preventing any
 hair-pulling this could result in.  In this case, the failure mode is
 pretty obvious, but that may not always be the case.  Worse yet, it
 might just produce incorrect output instead of failing to compile.
 
 [For those on -doc listening in: The general problem is that any
 infrastructure changes to the doc/ tree that aren't
 backwards-compatible might cause the release notes in the release
 branches to break.]

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>Number:         35732
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       adduser(8) page has obsolete reference and other problems.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Mar 10 01:00:03 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Gary W. Swearingen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
none
>Environment:
n/a
================
>Description:

-- The adduser(8) man page has several problems. See below.

================
>How-To-Repeat:
n/a
================
>Fix:

-- Remove the reference to setlogin(2)'s BUGS section (because it has
no relevant text).

-- Reconcile the Description's "May contain only lowercase characters or
digits." with adding_user(8)'s implications that login names may
contain hyphens, dots, and uppercase letters.  Maybe just needs a
clarifying comment that the program is more retrictive than most of the
base OS software and refer to adding_user(8) there.

-- Unconfuse the mention of a 16-character limit and the 8-character
limit.  At least, clean up the confusing clause "or source that assumes
the 8-character name limit and NIS". (Maybe change "and NIS" to "of
NIS".  Maybe remove the comma from "programs, or source".)

-- Add "adding_user(8)" to the "See Also" section.

-- Under "-verbose", change "warnings, questions" to "warnings and
questions".

-- Under "message file", change "Eval" to "Evaluate".

-- After "shell", change "Only valid shells from the shell database"
to "Shells from /etc/shells".  Clarify "or sliplogin and pppd". (Does
it mean the actual words "sliplogin" or "pppd" instead of a shell name,
or what?  If so, quote them and change "and" to "or".)

--  In the "-shell" explanation, "shell" should be
"shell_full_pathname". (I don't remember my evidence for making that
statement, but had it in my notes probably gathered when I was using
the program.)
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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Synopsis: sscanf(3) page has obsolete "this release".

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Duplicate of 35610.

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Synopsis: disklabel(8) page has inappropriate brackets in example

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Fixed, thanks.

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Synopsis: scbus(4) man page link.

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scsi(4) linked to scbus(4)

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Synopsis: crash(8) page has obsolete Handbook reference.

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fixed

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Synopsis: Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" syntax

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Some mdoc wizardry fixed, some added, and patch committed.  Thanks for
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>Number:         35733
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [Patch] Added links to 4.5 man pages
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Mar 10 02:20:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Alex Dupre
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD vaio.alexdupre.com 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Sun Feb 3 15:53:42 CET 2002 alex@vaio.alexdupre.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VAIO2002 i386
	
>Description:
'Man' section of docs.sgml is outdated.
Added references to 4.5-RELEASE and 4.5-stable manual pages in
www/en/docs.sgml
	
>How-To-Repeat:
http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html#man
	
>Fix:

--- docs.patch begins here ---
--- docs.sgml.orig	Sun Mar 10 10:51:50 2002
+++ docs.sgml	Sun Mar 10 10:56:07 2002
@@ -273,7 +273,8 @@
 	<a href="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=FreeBSD+4.2-RELEASE">4.2</a>,
 	<a href="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=FreeBSD+4.3-RELEASE">4.3</a>,
 	<a href="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=FreeBSD+4.4-RELEASE">4.4</a>,
-	<a href="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=FreeBSD+4.4-stable">4.4-stable</a>,
+	<a href="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=FreeBSD+4.5-RELEASE">4.5</a>,
+	<a href="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=FreeBSD+4.5-stable">4.5-stable</a>,
 	<a
 	  href="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=FreeBSD+5.0-current">5.0-current</a>,
 	<a href="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?manpath=FreeBSD+Ports">Ports</a>.</dd>
--- docs.patch ends here ---

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--- Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> wrote:
>  Yes, please.  I'm even willing to maintain it (or have one of my
>  minions maintain it).  What I'd like is:

Cool!, I don't mind maintaining it now and then. ;)

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Hiten Pandya <hitmaster2k@yahoo.com> writes:
> --- Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> wrote:
> >  Yes, please.  I'm even willing to maintain it (or have one of my
> >  minions maintain it).  What I'd like is:
> Cool!, I don't mind maintaining it now and then. ;)

With all due respect, Hiten, I'd rather have someone who doesn't try
doing everything at once :)

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--- Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> wrote:
> With all due respect, Hiten, I'd rather have someone who doesn't try
> doing everything at once :)

Hehe.. I understand your point.  BTW, did you close my list of PRs.. ? 
I have also posted a copy of this into the bugbusters@ list.  I am going
to add another twenty or so, by next week. ;)

Regards,

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Hiten Pandya <hitmaster2k@yahoo.com> writes:
> --- Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> wrote:
> > With all due respect, Hiten, I'd rather have someone who doesn't try
> > doing everything at once :)
> Hehe.. I understand your point.  BTW, did you close my list of PRs.. ? 

Haven't had time yet, but thanks.

BTW, I'm still waiting for the guideline document you were supposed to
write for me ;)

> I have also posted a copy of this into the bugbusters@ list.  I am going
> to add another twenty or so, by next week. ;)

Very good!  I'll take some time off to look at them.

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--- Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org> wrote:
> Haven't had time yet, but thanks.
> 
> BTW, I'm still waiting for the guideline document you were supposed to
> write for me ;)

Hehe, is that the Guideline document for ConDB? I am working on it, I am
threading my work out (SMP). I would like some information related to it,
so I can fill it up..

> Very good!  I'll take some time off to look at them.

Cool! ;)

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Hiten Pandya <hitmaster2k@yahoo.com> writes:
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> > BTW, I'm still waiting for the guideline document you were supposed to
> > write for me ;)
> Hehe, is that the Guideline document for ConDB?

No - the bug handling guidelines you were supposed to compile from the
buggers@ofug.org archives...

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Hi,
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 05:12:04PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
>   1.297     +4 -2      src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml

I think there is a small typo/omission in the entry:

] This bug could have allowed an authenticated remote user to cause
] &man.sshd.8; to execute arbitrary code with superuser privileges,

This part is correct and clear: A 'bad' client can abuse the server

] or allowed a connecting SSH client to execute arbitrary
] code with the privileges of the client user. 

but I think this part should be clearer.  According to the advisories
I have read, a 'bad' server can abuse the client.  My suggestion
is to replace this part with "or allowed a malicous SSH server to
execute arbitrary code on the client system with the privileges of
the client user".

/s/Udo
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>Number:         35750
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       change to cd ripping section of handbook
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>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Mar 10 14:00:02 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Adam Weinberger
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD smacky.crackula.com 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #35: Sat Mar 9 12:02:52 PST 2002 root@smacky.crackula.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/smacky i386


	
>Description:
	The cd-ripping section in the Sound chapter states that cdda2wav is
	SCSI-only, and that ports/audio/cdd is a good replacement. cdda2wav
	now does ATAPI as well, and ports/audio/cdd is marked as broken.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:
--- chapter.sgml.old	Sun Mar 10 13:34:31 2002
+++ chapter.sgml	Sun Mar 10 13:39:47 2002
@@ -456,10 +456,12 @@
 
       <screen>&prompt.root; cdda2wav -D <replaceable>0,1,0</replaceable> -t 1+7</screen>
 
-      <para><application>cdda2wav</application> only supports SCSI
-	CDROM drives.  For IDE drives, try out <filename role="package">audio/cdd</filename> or
-	some of the various other utilities in the audio ports
-	collection.</para>
+      <para><application>cdda2wav</application> will also support
+	  ATAPI (IDE) CDROM drives. To rip from an IDE drive, specify
+	  the device in place of the SCSI device. To rip track 7 from an
+	  IDE drive:</para>
+
+	  <screen>&prompt.root; cdda2wav -D <replaceable>/dev/acd0a</replaceable> -t 7</screen>
 
     </sect2>
 
	


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> doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng.

src/UPDATING on the security fix branches?

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Hey Guys,

I have viewed your website and I am a fan of FreeBSD as I will be using it 
on my servers coming up. I think your OS is far more advanced and all around 
great and the site may hold that down a bit. I am not trying to insult your 
website hahha I just think with my skills I can make it look very good! I 
was just wondering what you guys thought about this.


Thanks Jason

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Synopsis: [Patch] Added links to 4.5 man pages

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Applied, thanks.

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The following reply was made to PR docs/35649; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Boris Popov <bp@butya.kz>
To: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
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Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for
 details."
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:44:14 +0600 (ALMT)

 On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Peter Pentchev wrote:
 
 > >  	Yes, this path is somewhat incorrect and update to mount_smbfs.8
 > >  is required. However an example of dor.nsmbrc file already installed as
 > >  /etc/nsmb.conf. The syntax of both files are the same with exception that
 > >  system-wide configuration file will override equal settings in the per
 > >  account dot.nsmbrc file.
 > 
 > Well, I have to admit that I never noticed that a sample file was
 > actually installed; however, there are two problems I can see with
 > that.  First, /etc/nsmb.conf is not exactly the same as dot.nsmbrc;
 > second, /etc/nsmb.conf is not exactly usable as a reference for
 > normal users, should they want to do per-user settings - it is installed
 > with 0600 permissions, making it quite hard to read :)
 
 	Yep, forgot about the mode. In this light src/share/examples/smbfs
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The following reply was made to PR docs/35678; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
To: Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>
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Subject: Re: docs/35678: docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with spaces
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:43:21 +0200

 On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:07:48AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote:
 > 
 > >Number:         35678
 > >Category:       docs
 > >Synopsis:       docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with spaces
 > >Originator:     Robert Watson
 > >Environment:
 > System: FreeBSD sproing.gw.tislabs.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Tue Jan 15 11:18:08 EST 2002     rwatson@sproing.gw.tislabs.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SPROING  i386
 > 
 > docproj-1.9         The "meta-port" for the FreeBSD Documentation Project
 > 
 > >Description:
 > 
 > When building a web page using sgml, if any segment of the file system path
 > for the working directory contains a space or other irregular character,
 > things get broken.
 
 This is not really specific to docproj, though, is it?  I would think
 that this happens in any Makefile that refers to either the current
 directory or some working directory or some file by an absolute path.
 This stems directly from make(1)'s use of sh(1) to execute commands;
 I do not think it can be easily fixed :(
 
 Just as an example..
 
 [roam@straylight:v0 /Op Sys/FreeBSD/src/bin/mkdir]$ make cleandir
 cd: can't cd to /Op
 *** Error code 2
 
 Stop in /Op Sys/FreeBSD/src/bin/mkdir.
 [roam@straylight:v0 /Op Sys/FreeBSD/src/bin/mkdir]$ make -dl cleandir
 cd /Op Sys/FreeBSD/src/bin/mkdir && make clean cleandepend
 cd: can't cd to /Op
 *** Error code 2
 
 Stop in /Op Sys/FreeBSD/src/bin/mkdir.
 [roam@straylight:v0 /Op Sys/FreeBSD/src/bin/mkdir]$
 
 ..so it affects the source tree as well.
 
 G'luck,
 Peter
 
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Hi Jason,

   Can you please show us some links to web sites that you have
designed?

	Thanks,
	   - Murray

On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:52:50AM +0000, Jason Harris wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> 
> I have viewed your website and I am a fan of FreeBSD as I will be using it 
> on my servers coming up. I think your OS is far more advanced and all 
> around great and the site may hold that down a bit. I am not trying to 
> insult your website hahha I just think with my skills I can make it look 
> very good! I was just wondering what you guys thought about this.
> 
> 
> Thanks Jason

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From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
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	Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org>
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Subject: Re: docs/35683: Fix amd info
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:57:53 -0500

 Apologies to all that this is listed a ``serious'' pr.  I did not wish 
 to do that, and was a slight mistake.  Instead of keeping this pr open, 
 lets apply the patch (if no objections) and close this pr.  A new one 
 will be opened afterwords ;)  Enjoy, and thanks!
 
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34038; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Cc: aftershocks <aftershocks@pittgoth.com>
Subject: Re: docs/34038: [NEW ARTICLE] Upgrading a.out to Elf
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:07:02 -0500

 Currently, I am re-evaluating my article.  I've added another 2 
 sections, reworded a few parts, and fixed some grammer.  I will be 
 reviewing the entire printed article where I will fix grammer and try to 
 make some points a bit more clear.  Afterwords, I will put the document 
 into the hands of a less-knowledgeable FreeBSD user who will point out 
 parts that he/she did not understand or is unclear about.
 
 If anyone out there cares, or has reviewed my current work, and would 
 like to make a comment please do so now.  One of the larger aspects is 
 the ``getting FreeBSD'' areas, where I tried to walk users through the 
 use of CVS, CVSup, and other methods.  Some people think this should be 
 scrapped as the handbook describes it, others think that it would be a 
 hassle to read parts of the handbook and jump between article and 
 handbook...
 
 I do not understand how either method would be applicable as a problem, 
 maybe this decision should be left to my ``reviewer'' however, there is 
 a place and an ear for every comment availible.
 
 Thanks to everyone for their time, as I know its a lacking aspect, and 
 we all need more... ;)
 
 -- 
 Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes
 www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front
 www.FreeBSD.org  The Power To Serve
 

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>Number:         35785
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [Patch] picobsd.8 man page corrections
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Mar 11 10:10:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Alex Dupre
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-ALEXDUPRE i386
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>Description:
A few small fixes to the picobsd man page.

src/share/man/man8/picobsd.8
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:

	

--- picobsd.diff begins here ---
--- picobsd.8.orig	Mon Mar 11 18:21:37 2002
+++ picobsd.8	Mon Mar 11 19:00:31 2002
@@ -54,7 +54,7 @@
 instead the one at
 .Ar /usr/src .
 Can be useful for cross-building floppy images.
-When using this option, you must also create initialize the subtree at
+When using this option, you must also initialize the subtree at
 .Ar SRC_PATH/../usr
 with the correct include files, libraries and tools (such as the
 .Xr config 8
@@ -113,7 +113,6 @@
 .It Fl c
 .It Fl clean
 Clean the product of previous builds.
-.Xr etherboot
 .El
 .Sh ENVIRONMENT
 As a result of the extreme size limitations, the
@@ -175,8 +174,6 @@
 .Bl -hang -width "install  "
 .It dial
 is a configuration suitable for dial-out (ppp) networking.
-.It install
-is a configuration suitable for software installation.
 .It isp
 is a configuration suitable for dial-in (ppp) networking.
 .It net
@@ -231,7 +228,7 @@
 .Pa picobsd
 script (optional). The most important variables here are
 .Pa MY_DEVS
-which should be set to the list of device which should be
+which should be set to the list of devices which should be
 created in the
 .Pa /dev
 directory of the image (it is really the argument passed to
@@ -334,15 +331,14 @@
 The first form will install the image on the entire disk, and it
 should work in the same way as from a floppy.
 .Pp
-The second form will install the
+The second form will install the image
 on slice number 3 (which should be large enough to store the
 content of the image). However the process will only have success if the
 partition does not contain a valid disklabel, otherwise the kernel will
 likely prevent overwriting the label. In this case you can use the
 third form, replacing NN with the actual start of the partition
 (as you can tell from
-.Nm fdisk
-).
+.Nm fdisk ).
 Note that after saving the image to the slice, it will not be
 recognised yet, you have to use the disklabel command to
 properly initialize the label (don't ask why!).
@@ -445,9 +441,9 @@
 You can use the
 .Pa $hostname
 variable to create different configurations from the same file.
-.Pa
 After taking control back,
-.Pa /etc/rc1 completes the initializations, and as part of this
+.Pa /etc/rc1
+completes the initializations, and as part of this
 it configures network interfaces and optionally calls the
 firewall configuration script,
 .Pa /etc/rc.firewall ,
@@ -564,7 +560,7 @@
 If invoked without arguments,
 .Nm update
 edits and saves
-.Pa rc.conf
+.Pa rc.conf ,
 .Pa rc.firewall
 and
 .Pa master.passwd .
--- picobsd.diff ends here ---


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Current FreeBSD problem reports

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Bugs can be in one of several states:

o - open
     A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed.

a - analyzed
     The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated.

f - feedback
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     patch or a fix has been committed.  The PR remains in this state
     pending a response from the originator.

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     for somebody who is looking for a project to do.
     If the problem cannot be solved at all,
     it will be closed, rather than suspended.

c - closed
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     documented, and tested.

Critical problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [2002/03/09] docs/35723  doc      le(4) page doesn't warn about likely syst

1 problem total.

Serious problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
s [2000/07/18] docs/20028  doc      ASCII docs should reflect <emphasis> tags
o [2001/05/23] docs/27605  doc      Cross-document references (<olink>)
o [2001/10/14] docs/31265  doc      crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allo
o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc      Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han
o [2002/02/14] docs/34947  doc      Updated/Translated Article on Filtering B
o [2002/02/28] docs/35430  doc      [Maintainer Update] Filtering-Bridges Art
o [2002/03/06] docs/35620  doc      make release fails in documentation for R
o [2002/03/08] docs/35678  doc      docproj Makefiles for web are broken for 
o [2002/03/08] docs/35683  doc      Fix amd info
o [2002/03/09] docs/35724  doc      www; Handbook missing link to important H

10 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [2000/08/10] docs/20528  doc      sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix.
s [2000/11/01] docs/22470  doc      man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin
o [2001/02/01] docs/24786  doc      missing FILES descriptions in sa(4)
o [2001/04/02] docs/26286  doc      *printf(3) etc should gain format string 
o [2001/04/29] docs/26943  doc      [patch] description of :C modifier is mis
o [2001/05/25] docs/27653  doc      Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME
o [2001/05/26] docs/27654  doc      Update to PR 27653
o [2001/06/06] docs/27915  doc      man 5 passwd does not properly explain th
o [2001/06/30] docs/28555  doc      [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo
o [2001/07/04] docs/28699  doc      strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl
o [2001/07/22] docs/29143  doc      List of man pages that need to be written
o [2001/07/26] docs/29245  doc      top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP
f [2001/08/09] docs/29571  doc      [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct
a [2001/08/23] docs/30008  doc      This document should be translated, comme
o [2001/09/08] docs/30442  doc      remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro
o [2001/09/13] docs/30556  doc      vnconfig man page incorrect; functionalit
o [2001/09/24] docs/30809  doc      fdisk(8) cleanup
o [2001/09/27] docs/30873  doc      ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord
o [2001/10/07] docs/31109  doc      replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat
o [2001/10/09] docs/31164  doc      man page for strftime is incorrect
a [2001/10/14] docs/31271  doc      rl(4) discourages vender openness by disp
o [2001/10/30] docs/31640  doc      Avoiding uppercase program names in manpa
o [2001/10/30] docs/31653  doc      Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content
o [2001/11/15] docs/32020  doc      loader.8 manpage missing tunables
o [2001/11/16] docs/32041  doc      Add point about net.inet.tcp.portange.{fi
o [2001/11/16] docs/32054  doc      inconsistency between index.3 and rindex.
a [2001/11/26] docs/32323  doc      man page `named(8)' do not have link for 
o [2001/12/01] docs/32425  doc      Document cvs update `P file' output
o [2001/12/03] docs/32468  doc      broken link in handbook: sysutils/mkisofs
s [2001/12/07] docs/32578  doc      A _really_ petty change to the front page
o [2001/12/10] docs/32674  doc      no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca
o [2001/12/30] docs/33354  doc      no rsync section in mirror chapter of the
o [2002/01/05] docs/33585  doc      Possible Errata in ntp.conf.5 manpage
o [2002/01/05] docs/33586  doc      An errata in ntp.keys.5 manpage
o [2002/01/05] docs/33589  doc      Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process .
o [2002/01/13] docs/33852  doc      split(1) man page implies that input file
o [2002/01/14] docs/33877  doc      Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non-
o [2002/01/15] misc/33926  doc      Search function on website can not access
o [2002/01/18] docs/34038  doc      [NEW ARTICLE] Upgrading a.out to Elf
o [2002/01/20] docs/34088  doc      a.out(5) fails to explain what bss is
o [2002/01/24] docs/34234  doc      restore(8) man page doesn't explain rrest
o [2002/01/24] docs/34239  doc      tunefs(8) man page doesn't describe argum
o [2002/01/24] docs/34248  doc      dump(8) man page block/record/other clari
o [2002/02/01] docs/34529  doc      [patch] Grammar nits in usbd.conf(5) and 
o [2002/02/03] docs/34577  doc      Some man pages still advise using "confli
o [2002/02/03] docs/34583  doc      DECLARE_MODULE(9) man page is broken.
o [2002/02/04] docs/34626  doc      Copyright on "Index of /mail/current" pag
o [2002/02/05] docs/34654  doc      Update UIDs for porters handbook
o [2002/02/08] docs/34743  doc      nfsd(8) lacking signal explanation
o [2002/02/10] docs/34794  doc      [patch] Documentation Primer uses depreca
o [2002/02/13] docs/34909  doc      Porters Handbook or portlint problem
o [2002/02/16] docs/35011  doc      There are no commands called "diskless" o
o [2002/02/18] docs/35105  doc      [PATCH] handbook User-ppp chapter
o [2002/02/20] docs/35140  doc      How to enable DPMS support in XFree86-4 i
o [2002/02/22] docs/35206  doc      Give information how to mount a photo-cd
o [2002/02/22] docs/35222  doc      mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima
o [2002/02/24] docs/35280  doc      [PATCH] null-modem cable pinout in 'Seria
o [2002/02/26] docs/35343  doc      Old broken Unix docco Makefiles
o [2002/02/26] docs/35345  doc      Restore old yacc documentation
o [2002/02/27] docs/35378  doc      Handbook has inaccurate description of  f
o [2002/02/28] docs/35436  doc      PAO isn't very latest-and-greatest these 
o [2002/03/03] docs/35523  doc      manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1)
o [2002/03/04] docs/35530  doc      New cvsup and www mirror in Romania
o [2002/03/05] docs/35563  doc      [Patch] Stop asking people to give us the
o [2002/03/06] docs/35602  doc      dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a
o [2002/03/06] docs/35603  doc      grep(1) page is missing info on zfgrep, z
o [2002/03/06] docs/35604  doc      arp(4) page mentions 10Mb/s but not 100Mb
o [2002/03/06] docs/35605  doc      chmod(1) page misleads by use of "regardl
o [2002/03/06] docs/35606  doc      date(1) page doesn't say which clock(s) i
o [2002/03/06] docs/35607  doc      dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er
o [2002/03/06] docs/35608  doc      mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana
o [2002/03/06] docs/35609  doc      mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era
o [2002/03/06] docs/35610  doc      sscanf(3) page has obsolete "this release
o [2002/03/06] docs/35612  doc      ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me
o [2002/03/07] docs/35642  doc      lo(4) page maybe should document optional
o [2002/03/07] docs/35644  doc      lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin
o [2002/03/07] docs/35646  doc      cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section.
o [2002/03/07] docs/35647  doc      www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi
o [2002/03/07] docs/35648  doc      rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f
o [2002/03/07] docs/35649  doc      mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.
o [2002/03/07] docs/35651  doc      mount(8) man page contains references to 
o [2002/03/07] docs/35652  doc      bsd.README seriously obsolete
o [2002/03/08] docs/35677  doc      [PATCH] - Add freebsd-bugbusters@ to the 
o [2002/03/08] docs/35684  doc      INSTALL.TXT, .HTM have obsolete FIPS info
o [2002/03/08] docs/35686  doc      blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its
o [2002/03/08] docs/35687  doc      /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers
o [2002/03/08] docs/35688  doc      fdisk(8) page extraneous "being", etc.
o [2002/03/08] docs/35696  doc      mount_smbfs(8) references a nonexistent n
o [2002/03/08] docs/35697  doc      Add online document onto the docs page
o [2002/03/09] docs/35711  doc      the "gnats page" should move to its own s
o [2002/03/10] docs/35732  doc      adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an
o [2002/03/10] docs/35750  doc      change to cd ripping section of handbook
o [2002/03/11] docs/35785  doc      [Patch] picobsd.8 man page corrections

93 problems total.


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On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:56:29PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote:
> I was reading the "contributing" article, and my literary
> sensibilities were completely offended.  This section is guilty of
> overuse of exclamation ponits and the word "also", as well as
> miscellaneous inefficiencies in writing.  Attached please find a patch
> for the first section of articles/contributing.  (Not closely checked
> for whitespace gratuitousness, mind you.)

Works for me.  But "diff -u" next time please :-)

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Hello people who work with security, documentation, and FreeBSD in general.

Today I was poking around sftp.  Upon my browsing I noticed that a 
really neat program known as SafeTP was developed at Berkeley.  This 
utility seems to attach itself to ANY ftp client in windows/unix and 
provide a secure connection...  My few moments of testing pointed out to 
me that it works in windows easily, so newbies can use it with say WS_ftp.

Though I lack the time to document this now, it appears to me that some 
people may have an interest in things like this, Robert Watson for 
example, because of the Trusted BSD project.

I hope this does not come off as unwanted email, but just helps people 
involved in the use of FreeBSD.  This program should probly be 
documented or at least linked on the site.  The link for this program is:

http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~smcpeak/SafeTP/

Take care all!

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On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:23:21PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> Hello people who work with security, documentation, and FreeBSD in general.
> 
> Today I was poking around sftp.  Upon my browsing I noticed that a 
> really neat program known as SafeTP was developed at Berkeley.  This 
> utility seems to attach itself to ANY ftp client in windows/unix and 
> provide a secure connection...  My few moments of testing pointed out to 
> me that it works in windows easily, so newbies can use it with say WS_ftp.

Under UNIX, it is a separate client that 'ftp'.  But it does really
drop into thew Windows world very nicely...

> I hope this does not come off as unwanted email, but just helps people 
> involved in the use of FreeBSD.  This program should probly be 
> documented or at least linked on the site.  The link for this program is:
> 
> http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~smcpeak/SafeTP/

I'm using this with success for webhosting, but take note: this is
_not_ a stock FTP server, and there are no Machintosh clients.

All of the Mac-flavored 'tunnel FTP over SSH' techniques will not apply.

> Take care all!
> 
> -- 
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On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 04:50:02PM -0800, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
>  Yes, please.  I'm even willing to maintain it (or have one of my
>  minions maintain it).  What I'd like is:
> =20
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>  /bugs/gnats.html    (reworked search form)
> =20
>  and have bugs.freebsd.org point to /bugs/.

Can we call it something else?  "bugs" is so. . . negative.

I'd suggest "pr", but that's likely to be misunderstood.

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"bugs" doesn't need explaining.

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> On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 04:50:02PM -0800, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> 
>> Yes, please.  I'm even willing to maintain it (or have one of my
>> minions maintain it).  What I'd like is:
>> 
>> /bugs/index.html    (general info about bugs, bugmaster & bugbusters)
>> /bugs/gnats.html    (reworked search form)
>> 
>> and have bugs.freebsd.org point to /bugs/.
>>
> 
> Can we call it something else?  "bugs" is so. . . negative.
> 
> I'd suggest "pr", but that's likely to be misunderstood.
> 
> N
> 

support?  known issues, issues, problems, fixes, patches, any of this 
sound ok?

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> sound ok?

Please!  Just "bugs".

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> 
> Hello people who work with security, documentation, and 
> FreeBSD in general.
> 
> Today I was poking around sftp.  Upon my browsing I noticed that a 
> really neat program known as SafeTP was developed at Berkeley.  This 
> utility seems to attach itself to ANY ftp client in windows/unix and 
> provide a secure connection...  My few moments of testing 
> pointed out to 
> me that it works in windows easily, so newbies can use it 
> with say WS_ftp.
> 

Does it work with the sftp server that comes bundled with OpenSSH or do
you have to install the SafeTP server-side daemon too? If not, how does
it interfer with excisting sftpd bundled with OpenSSH when installed?

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On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 09:49:43PM +0100, Arvinn Løkkebakken wrote:
> > 
> > Hello people who work with security, documentation, and 
> > FreeBSD in general.
> > 
> > Today I was poking around sftp.  Upon my browsing I noticed that a 
> > really neat program known as SafeTP was developed at Berkeley.  This 
> > utility seems to attach itself to ANY ftp client in windows/unix and 
> > provide a secure connection...  My few moments of testing 
> > pointed out to 
> > me that it works in windows easily, so newbies can use it 
> > with say WS_ftp.
> > 
> 
> Does it work with the sftp server that comes bundled with OpenSSH or do
> you have to install the SafeTP server-side daemon too? If not, how does
> it interfer with excisting sftpd bundled with OpenSSH when installed?

This is part of the problem; the terminologies clash.

SafeTP is a enhanced FTP server that encrypts the command channel only.
Also provided is a client that can speak SateTP as well as stock FTP.  You
need such a client to talk to a SafeTP server.

sftp(1) is an interactive file transfer program, similar to ftp(1),
which performs all operations over an encrypted ssh(1) transport.
(Right from the manpage).  Different beast.

And, this has nothing to do with 'Secure FTP', a java app that 'is
a client package that allows for a secure connection to be made to
an FTP daemon'.  That requires astock FTP server.

> 
> Arvinn
> 

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Arvinn Løkkebakken wrote:

>>Hello people who work with security, documentation, and 
>>FreeBSD in general.
>>
>>Today I was poking around sftp.  Upon my browsing I noticed that a 
>>really neat program known as SafeTP was developed at Berkeley.  This 
>>utility seems to attach itself to ANY ftp client in windows/unix and 
>>provide a secure connection...  My few moments of testing 
>>pointed out to 
>>me that it works in windows easily, so newbies can use it 
>>with say WS_ftp.
>>
>>
> 
> Does it work with the sftp server that comes bundled with OpenSSH or do
> you have to install the SafeTP server-side daemon too? If not, how does
> it interfer with excisting sftpd bundled with OpenSSH when installed?
> 
> Arvinn
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I have not tested as of current, but that is something I want to know 
about, and will probly test tonight...

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 >Brian Reichert wrote:



Without really testing, will it interact with sftp-server(8)?

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I apologize I probably came off a bit arrogant. I was referred here. I just
wanted to know if there was a way I could get involved with may be 2 others
on working on the freebsd home page. I know I could make it look very good.
Thanks for understanding guys (not exactly sure how this newsgroup works
yet)

I currently own www.triflux.com  and soon to own another dot com I am 16 I
used to work for KaZaA etc... thanks!
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Jason - When I saw Giorgos reply to your posting I realized it would have
been much better if I had pointed out to you how you can help with
FreeBSD instead of knocking your posting.  My apologies to you.

Good luck in you quest to contribute, Jason!  :^)

On 3/11/02 at 8:15 PM Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
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>> are you guys looking for a web designer if so I can do alot. I consider
>> myself to have alot of knowledge in this area anything you guys need
>please
>> e-mail me back
>
>Hello Jason,
>
>FreeBSD relies heavily on contributions from it's users.  There are many
>ways you can help making FreeBSD, it's web presence, and the way it works
>better.  You are certainly welcome to help ini any way you can :)
>
>There is a nice article online that explains a few of the ways that you can
>help us improve FreeBSD.  It's not an exchaustive list of all the possible
>ways in which a FreeBSD user can help develop and maintain things, but it
>does provide lots of useful pointers.  Find it at:
>
>    http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing/
>
>Thank you for offering to help,
>
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The following reply was made to PR docs/31265; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@over-yonder.net>
To: "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net>
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Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files.
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:16:56 -0600

 Just to keep it alive...
 
 On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:40:03PM -0800 I heard the voice of
 Gary W. Swearingen, and lo! it spake thus:
 >  
 >  I still think that user names must each start at the beginning of a line
 >  and must be followed immediately by a newline character -- all other
 >  lines are ignored.  (They probably also must be in some user account
 >  config file(s) but that should go without saying.)
 >  
 >  As for the state of the PR, I'm still not aware of anything particularly
 >  wrong with the original patch and hope that committers will consider
 >  that patch.  I'll consider modifying it in response to criticisms of it
 >  and suggestions for its improvement, of course.
 
 Yeesh, you people always take the hard way   ;p
 The Right Solution (IMO, of course) is to fix cron to not make what is a
 rather non-intuitive choice in parsing the files, then document the
 now-simple one-username-per-line.  Something like (untested):
 
 
 Index: crontab/crontab.1
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.1,v
 retrieving revision 1.9
 diff -u -r1.9 crontab.1
 --- crontab.1	2000/11/20 20:09:43	1.9
 +++ crontab.1	2002/03/11 22:12:53
 @@ -58,7 +58,9 @@
  file in order to use this command.  If neither of these files exists, then
  depending on site-dependent configuration parameters, only the super user
  will be allowed to use this command, or all users will be able to use this
 -command.
 +command.  The format of these files is one username per line, with no
 +leading or trailing whitespace.  Lines with other information on them
 +will be ignored, and so can be used for comments.
  .Pp
  The first form of this command is used to install a new crontab from some
  named file or standard input if the pseudo-filename ``-'' is given.
 Index: lib/misc.c
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/usr.sbin/cron/lib/misc.c,v
 retrieving revision 1.9
 diff -u -r1.9 misc.c
 --- misc.c	2000/05/23 13:44:00	1.9
 +++ misc.c	2002/03/11 22:08:14
 @@ -392,7 +392,8 @@
  	rewind(file);
  	while (fgets(line, MAX_TEMPSTR, file)) {
  		if (line[0] != '\0')
 -			line[strlen(line)-1] = '\0';
 +			if (line[strlen(line)-1] == '\n')
 +				line[strlen(line)-1] = '\0';
  		if (0 == strcmp(line, string))
  			return TRUE;
  	}
 
 
 
 >  blank lines as being different.  Your shell (and my pdksh) seem to
 >  ignore the empty line so it doesn't show as a blank line.
 
 Well, it's not an empty line that would show as a blank line; that would
 require TWO \n's.  vis:
 [16:09:51] mortis:~/tmp
 (ttyp3):{931}% echo hi > out
 [16:10:19] mortis:~/tmp
 (ttyp3):{932}% echo -n hi > out2
 [16:10:22] mortis:~/tmp
 (ttyp3):{933}% cat out
 hi
 [16:10:23] mortis:~/tmp
 (ttyp3):{934}% cat out2
 hi[16:10:24] mortis:~/tmp
 (ttyp3):{935}% 
 
 
 
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 04:25:04PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
>  >Brian Reichert wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Without really testing, will it interact with sftp-server(8)?

I don't know; it depends on how the 'Subsystem' elements of sshd
work.  let me know how testing shapes up for you...

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>Number:         35800
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] removal of -kthread in gcc man page
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Mar 11 15:00:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Stefan Farfeleder
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD stefan.fafoe 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Thu Mar 7 23:11:41 CET 2002 root@stefan.fafoe:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MORDOR i386


	
>Description:
-kthread was dropped from gcc over a year ago but is still remaining in the man page.
(http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/contrib/gcc/config/freebsd.h.diff?r1=1.29&r2=1.30)
>How-To-Repeat:
stefan@stefan:~ 501 (0)$ cat thread.c
#include <pthread.h>
int
main(void)
{
	pthread_t th;
	pthread_join(th, 0);
	return 0;
}
stefan@stefan:~ 502 (0)$ gcc -kthread -D_THREAD_SAFE thread.c
gcc: unrecognized option `-kthread'
/home/stefan/tmp/ccvI5tGE.o: In function `main':
/home/stefan/tmp/ccvI5tGE.o(.text+0x10): undefined reference to `pthread_join'

>Fix:

Index: gcc.1
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/gcc/gcc.1,v
retrieving revision 1.16
diff -u -r1.16 gcc.1
--- gcc.1	1 Aug 2001 18:35:54 -0000	1.16
+++ gcc.1	11 Mar 2002 22:40:58 -0000
@@ -543,11 +543,6 @@
 .BI "\-pthread"
 Link a user-threaded process against libc_r instead of libc. Objects linked
 into user-threaded processes should be compiled with -D_THREAD_SAFE.
-.TP
-.BI "\-kthread"
-Link a kernel-threaded process against libpthread in addition to libc.
-Objects linked into kernel-threaded processes should be compiled with
--D_THREAD_SAFE.
 .SH OVERALL OPTIONS
 .TP
 .BI "\-x " "language"
>Release-Note:
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At 04:25 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> >Brian Reichert wrote:
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>Without really testing, will it interact with sftp-server(8)?

I can't imagine that it would work. Here:
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~smcpeak/SafeTP/compare.html

They say:
The security negotiation is similar to the one used by ssh and SSL
I don't think "similar" will work with ssh.

         I seriously doubt they'd run their piece of the server on port 22 
which is reserved for ssh. Sftp clients connect to port 22 and talk to the 
ssh server which, I believe, invokes the sftp-server.





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> Please!  Just "bugs".

I go with DES!  Its very easy to say bugs, and I think support
will be misunderstood as well, or any of the others. :)

Cheers,

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The following reply was made to PR docs/35677; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Hiten Pandya <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Cc: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org
Subject: Re: docs/35677: [UPDATED PATCH]
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:34:57 +0000

 Hi,
 
 As you requested, and guided me, I have made a new patch, which
 can be cleanly applied, and does not have the stupid whitespace
 mistake I made earlier. ;)
 
 Thanks,
 
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 ===================================================================
 RCS file: RCS/chapter.sgml,v
 retrieving revision 1.1
 diff -u -r1.1 chapter.sgml
 --- chapter.sgml	2002/03/08 17:16:09	1.1
 +++ chapter.sgml	2002/03/12 00:27:31
 @@ -86,6 +86,11 @@
  	      <entry>freebsd-bugs</entry>
  	      <entry>Bug reports</entry>
  	    </row>
 +
 +	    <row>
 +	      <entry>freebsd-bugbusters</entry>
 +	      <entry>The Bug Busting Project (was: buggers@ofug.org)</entry>
 +	    </row>
  	    
  	    <row>
  	      <entry>freebsd-chat</entry>
 @@ -363,7 +368,7 @@
  	    
  	    <row>
  	      <entry>freebsd-sparc</entry>
 -	      <entry>Porting FreeBSD to Sparc systems</entry>
 +	      <entry>Porting FreeBSD to SPARC based systems</entry>
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Arvinn L=F8kkebakken wrote:

> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 21:49:43 +0100
> From: Arvinn L=F8kkebakken <arvinn@rns.no>
> To: darklogik@pittgoth.com, rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG
> Cc: security-officer@FreeBSD.ORG, 'Bruce A. Mah' <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>,
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>
> >
> > Hello people who work with security, documentation, and
> > FreeBSD in general.
> >
> > Today I was poking around sftp.  Upon my browsing I noticed that a
> > really neat program known as SafeTP was developed at Berkeley.  This
> > utility seems to attach itself to ANY ftp client in windows/unix and
> > provide a secure connection...  My few moments of testing
> > pointed out to
> > me that it works in windows easily, so newbies can use it
> > with say WS_ftp.
> >
>
> Does it work with the sftp server that comes bundled with OpenSSH or do
> you have to install the SafeTP server-side daemon too? If not, how does
> it interfer with excisting sftpd bundled with OpenSSH when installed?
>
> Arvinn
>

http://www.lundman.net/ lftpd works sine with it
im using it with my customers.

lftpd compiles on any platform :)



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 "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@over-yonder.net> writes:
 
 > The Right Solution (IMO, of course) is to fix cron to not make what is a
 > rather non-intuitive choice in parsing the files, then document the
 > now-simple one-username-per-line.  Something like (untested):
 
 Looks OK to me, except that if I were doing it (which I'm not) and I
 could trust the adduser(8) manual about alphanumerics & "_" only (which I
 can't -- see adding_user(8)), then I'd allow for trailing comments by
 adding this statement below yours:    line[strcspn(line, "#")] = '\0';
 
 > >  Your shell (and my pdksh) seem to
 > >  ignore the empty line so it doesn't show as a blank line.
 > 
 > Well, it's not an empty line that would show as a blank line; that would
 > require TWO \n's.  vis:
 
 It would show as a blank line in SOME software. The more intuitive
 behavior would be to consider a newline character to start a new
 line, even if empty or at the end of the file.  XEmacs, for instance,
 shows it and counts it, considering it to form an empty line at the end
 of the file.  But the shells and "wc" have good reasons for doing it the
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Thanks for the submission.  Your patch has been applied with minor
changes to revision 1.29 of sound/chapter.sgml.  I added two spaces
after each period, followed the indention style used in the rest of
this document, and inserted a few missing words to make the English
easier to follow.  It may take up to 24 hours for this change to reach
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Hello,

I found the method described to create the pkg-plist not working for
most ports. For example, the "make depends PREFIX=/var/tmp/port-name"
causes the port for which the pkg-plist is to be generated to be unable
to find the required files from the dependencies.

Also, the "find -d * -type d ..."-commands puts directories like "share"
(which refers to $PREFIX/share) in the pkg-plist while it shouldn't 

Here is a method which works for every port i've tried:

---------------------------------------------------------------------
# touch pkg-plist

# mtree -U -f /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist -d -e -p /var/tmp/port-name

# make depends

# (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find * -type d) > OLD-DIRS

# make install PREFIX=/var/tmp/port-name

# (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find * \! -type d) > pkg-plist

# (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find * -type d) | comm -13 OLD-DIRS - | sed -e 's#^#\@dirrm #' >> pkg-plist

# sort -r pkg-plist -o pkg-plist
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Of course the pkg-plist still needs the same hand-editing after this...

Is this a better suggestion than what the porter's handbook offers, or
am I wrong here?

Jochem

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Thanks.  Your change has been committed.  I made some whitespace
changes to follow the style of the existing document, and I made a
small change to the wording, but otherwise your patch looks good.  It
may take up to 24 hours for this change to hit the web site.


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Hello,

That's a good question.  I've cc'd ports on this.  Ports crew, could
you read Jochem's message below and comment?  If this is correct,
we'll update the Porter's Handbook.

Thanks,
Michael

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 02:02:02PM +0100, Jochem Kossen wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I found the method described to create the pkg-plist not working for
> most ports. For example, the "make depends PREFIX=/var/tmp/port-name"
> causes the port for which the pkg-plist is to be generated to be unable
> to find the required files from the dependencies.
> 
> Also, the "find -d * -type d ..."-commands puts directories like "share"
> (which refers to $PREFIX/share) in the pkg-plist while it shouldn't 
> 
> Here is a method which works for every port i've tried:
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> # touch pkg-plist
> 
> # mtree -U -f /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist -d -e -p /var/tmp/port-name
> 
> # make depends
> 
> # (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find * -type d) > OLD-DIRS
> 
> # make install PREFIX=/var/tmp/port-name
> 
> # (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find * \! -type d) > pkg-plist
> 
> # (cd /var/tmp/port-name && find * -type d) | comm -13 OLD-DIRS - | sed -e 's#^#\@dirrm #' >> pkg-plist
> 
> # sort -r pkg-plist -o pkg-plist
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Of course the pkg-plist still needs the same hand-editing after this...
> 
> Is this a better suggestion than what the porter's handbook offers, or
> am I wrong here?
> 
> Jochem
> 
> I'm not subscribed to the doc@ list, so please cc: me...Thanks!
> 
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actually i've developed a "simple" script which deals with this issue:

#!/bin/sh
(find . ; tar tzf ../mtree.x11-4.tgz) | sed -e 's,/$,,;s,^\./,,' | sort|uniq -u | while read d; do [ -d "$d" ] && echo -n "@dirrm "; echo $d; done | sed -e '/^@/{G;h;d;};${g;}'

this one expects ../mtree.x11-4.tgz to get the list of existing files
and directories, i know it's bloody dirty, but it's something to start
from:
one could replace the tar part with a pre-generated list of mtree
allowed files and dir.

after merging the after-install list with the "allowed" list, both are
cleaned, sorted and unified. the remainings (things that should be
removed) are then tested for being a directory and the apropriate @dirrm
is inserted. after that the whole list is resorted to place directory
removal at the end in reverse order to do a depth-first removal.

done.

oh yes, while you're (doc) at it, you should change that paragraph
concerning BSD.local.dist, because this is not always true! x apps need
BSD.x11-4.dist or BSD.x11.dist! somebody should clarify that.

hope somebody is helped with that

cheerz
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>Number:         35821
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] Add freebsd-bugbusters@ mailing list entity
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue Mar 12 08:00:02 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Hiten Pandya
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
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System: FreeBSD hpdi.ath.cx 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Tue Mar 12 14:30:20 GMT 2002 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx:/c1/obj/data/dev/src/sys/CURRENT5 i386

>Description:

	The following patch, will add bugbuster@ as a mailing list
	entity to doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mailing-lists.ent.

	This is a followup to the PR I submitted for adding bugbusters@
	to the eresources section of the Handbook (docs/35677), and
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	Hope this helps :)

	Regards,

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===================================================================
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shame over me... got a typo, this is the right one:

#!/bin/sh
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>Number:         35823
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] Little Restructuring of the Developers Handbook
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue Mar 12 08:50:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Hiten Pandya
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD hpdi.ath.cx 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Tue Mar 12 14:30:20 GMT 2002 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx:/c1/obj/data/dev/src/sys/CURRENT5 i386

>Description:

	Currently, the Dev. Handbook is using the UFS chapter for having
	all the non-UFS things, and it also looks a bit un-organised.

	The patch I am submitting will resolve that issue by re-organising
	the UFS chapter, into a <part> called "Filesystem & I/O Services".

	This part will contain the following chapters:

		- Overview of the I/O System (namei, disklabels...)
		- The Virtual Filesystem Interface (vnodes, vnops...)
		- Local Filesystems (FFS, UFS, MFS, Ext2FS...)
		- Network Filesystems (AFS, NFS, SANs...)
		- Special Filesystems (PortalFS, UnionFS, ProcFS...)
		- Journaled (Log-based) Filesystems (JFS, LFS...)
	
	As of now, none of the above have been written up, but this
	patch is the first in the series, as it will help me to correctly
	place the content I will write up for the individual chapters
	named above.

	If you need more information, regarding this PR and the patch
	supplied, please do not hesitate to contact me.

	Thanks,
	Regards,

	  -- Hiten Pandya
	  -- <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
	  
>How-To-Repeat:

	Visit the Dev. Handbook, and look at the currently messed
	structure of the Filesystems and stuff. (no offense) :)
	
>Fix:

	Please apply this patch (or comment) to:
		doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/book.sgml
	
--- book.sgml	2002/03/12 16:13:16	1.1
+++ book.sgml	2002/03/12 16:20:42
@@ -97,7 +97,11 @@
     &chap.vm;
     &chap.dma;
     &chap.kerneldebug;
+  </part>
 
+  <part id="fsio">
+    <title>Filesystems & I/O Services</title>
+    
     <chapter id="ufs">
       <title>* UFS</title>
 
@@ -113,6 +117,7 @@
       <para>AFS, NFS, SANs, etc.</para>
 
     </chapter>
+  </part>
 
     <chapter id="syscons">
       <title>* Syscons</title>
>Release-Note:
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>Unformatted:

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> From: murray@freebsd.org (Murray Stokely)
> Date: Tue 12 Mar, 2002
> Subject: cvs commit: src/release/scripts print-cdrom-packages.sh

>   * Add print/teTeX to the list of important packages for disc #3.  This
>     very large package is exactly the kind of thing that users buy the
>     CDs for, so leaving it off of a 4 CD set is very bad.

Good.

You might also consider making sure that all dependencies for the docproj
package are on the CD-ROMs.

I've never been happy that the FreeBSD documentation can't be built using
the base system (which has a perfectly good typesetter...), but was recently
flabberghasted when I made my first attempt to use the CD-ROM packages for
what seemed an obvious task, only to find out the CD-ROM set was insufficient!
teTeX was the biggie, but if my notes are correct the other omissions are:
docproj, jadetex, peps (none of which will break the byte bank).

(Even better would be having all the docproj packages on the same CD-ROM.)

I presume these packages are all on FreeBSD Services' DVD-ROM release...

		Cheers,

		Mark.

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Mark Valentine wrote:

>>From: murray@freebsd.org (Murray Stokely)
>>Date: Tue 12 Mar, 2002
>>Subject: cvs commit: src/release/scripts print-cdrom-packages.sh
>>
> 
>>  * Add print/teTeX to the list of important packages for disc #3.  This
>>    very large package is exactly the kind of thing that users buy the
>>    CDs for, so leaving it off of a 4 CD set is very bad.
>>
> 
> Good.
> 
> You might also consider making sure that all dependencies for the docproj
> package are on the CD-ROMs.
> 
> I've never been happy that the FreeBSD documentation can't be built using
> the base system (which has a perfectly good typesetter...), but was recently
> flabberghasted when I made my first attempt to use the CD-ROM packages for
> what seemed an obvious task, only to find out the CD-ROM set was insufficient!
> teTeX was the biggie, but if my notes are correct the other omissions are:
> docproj, jadetex, peps (none of which will break the byte bank).
> 
> (Even better would be having all the docproj packages on the same CD-ROM.)
> 
> I presume these packages are all on FreeBSD Services' DVD-ROM release...
> 
> 		Cheers,
> 
> 		Mark.
> 
> 

I can't get ghostscript-gnu to build ;)  This is a public service 
announcement that I should probly forward to ports...  Done ;)

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The following reply was made to PR docs/35823; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Hiten Pandya <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
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Subject: Re: docs/35823 (update patch)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:37:43 +0000

 Oops, I am sorry about this, I forgot to diff my last change
 to the book.sgml file, so I am submitting the updated patch.
 
 Thanks,
 Regards,
 
   -- Hiten Pandya
   -- <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
   
 --- book.sgml	2002/03/12 16:13:16	1.1
 +++ book.sgml	2002/03/12 21:28:33
 @@ -97,7 +97,11 @@
      &chap.vm;
      &chap.dma;
      &chap.kerneldebug;
 +  </part>
  
 +  <part id="fsio">
 +    <title>Filesystems & I/O Services</title>
 +    
      <chapter id="ufs">
        <title>* UFS</title>
  
 @@ -113,6 +117,7 @@
        <para>AFS, NFS, SANs, etc.</para>
  
      </chapter>
 +  </part>
  
      <chapter id="syscons">
        <title>* Syscons</title>
 @@ -132,7 +137,6 @@
        </sect1>
  
      </chapter>
 -  </part>
    
    <part id="devicedrivers">
      <title>Device Drivers</title>

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Greetings, I sent this earlier but with the wrong reply-to address,

on what terms would it be possible to provide the handbook documentation
from the URL

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

to our students as part of a unix course syllabus ?

Or would you rather we purchase individual copies of the handbook from the FreeBSD Mall ?

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Hello,

We would of course *prefer* that you purchase a printed handbook.
Monies from Handbook sales are directed back into the Project.

However, the license on our work is pretty generous.  If you check the
"copyright" link off the link you point out below (it's the first
link), you'll see the terms & conditions for reproduction in any form.
They boil down to:

a) don't claim you wrote it
b) keep our copyright on it
c) don't sue us

Good luck with your class!

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 10:25:59PM +0000, Jason Thomas wrote:
> Greetings, I sent this earlier but with the wrong reply-to address,
> 
> on what terms would it be possible to provide the handbook documentation
> from the URL
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
> 
> to our students as part of a unix course syllabus ?
> 
> Or would you rather we purchase individual copies of the handbook from the FreeBSD Mall ?
> 
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On 2002-03-12 13:50, Hiten Pandya wrote:

>  Oops, I am sorry about this, I forgot to diff my last change
>  to the book.sgml file, so I am submitting the updated patch.

>  @@ -113,6 +117,7 @@
>         <para>AFS, NFS, SANs, etc.</para>
>   
>       </chapter>
>  +  </part>
>   
>       <chapter id="syscons">
>         <title>* Syscons</title>
>  @@ -132,7 +137,6 @@
>         </sect1>
>   
>       </chapter>
>  -  </part>
>     
>     <part id="devicedrivers">
>       <title>Device Drivers</title>

Does this leave the "* Syscons" chapter outside of any specific part?
It sure seems like it...

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--- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> Does this leave the "* Syscons" chapter outside of any specific part?
> It sure seems like it...

Yep, it does, but I don't know where to put it into.  Maybe a new chapter
called "Terminal Handling" or something like that... what do you think?


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Hiten Pandya wrote:

> --- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> 
>>Does this leave the "* Syscons" chapter outside of any specific part?
>>It sure seems like it...
>>
> 
> Yep, it does, but I don't know where to put it into.  Maybe a new chapter
> called "Terminal Handling" or something like that... what do you think?
> 
> 

Please don't take this in a rude way, I just don't have time to test 
this myself, but hope to prevent any problems from occuring...

This doesn't break the build does it?  Just the removal of a closing 
<part> and no </part> added...  Just wondering ;)

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Hi,

Is there a reason that we are not using the entities we have
for the committers' names and e-mail addresses and for our
mailing lists throughout the documentation?

At http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/doc/fbsdmail/ there is a set
of patches (individual .patch files and a big bad jumbo.patch.gz)
to the articles and books, converting most instances of committer or
list e-mail addresses (sometimes with explanatory text and/or names,
too) to SGML entities.

Any reason this should not be committed?

G'luck,
Peter

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On 2002-03-13 09:27, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there a reason that we are not using the entities we have
> for the committers' names and e-mail addresses and for our
> mailing lists throughout the documentation?

Yes, there is.  Reason is nobody has done it until now :P

> At http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/doc/fbsdmail/

<looks-fine>
  articles::committers-guide.patch
  articles::contributing.patch
  articles::formatting-media.patch
  articles::freebsd-questions.patch
  articles::hubs.patch
  articles::new-users.patch
  articles::releng-packages.patch
  articles::releng.patch
  books::developers-handbook.patch
  teams.ent.patch
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In books::faq.patch change this:

	+            the &a.platforms;.
	+            </para>

to the following:

	+            the &a.platforms;.</para>

In books::fdp-primer.patch change this:

	+<!ENTITY % mailing-lists PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Mailing List Entities//EN"> %mailing-lists;

to read:

	+<!ENTITY % mailing-lists PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Mailing List Entities//EN">
	+%mailing-lists;

In books::fdp-primer.patch don't let the comma have any whitespace
before it:

	+         let you have any) then you can e-mail &a.nik;
	+          , and arrange to e-mail the files

should look like:

+         let you have any) then you can e-mail &a.nik;,
+         and arrange to e-mail the files

In the handbook diff, the following might look a little strange:

		  please contact the FreeBSD project administrators
	-         <email>hubs@FreeBSD.org</email> for more information.</para>
	+         &a.hubs; for more information.</para>

since &a.hubs; will make the output have the following text:

	the FreeBSD project administrators FreeBSD mirror sites mailing
	list <hubs@FreeBSD.org>

you might want to remove 'FreeBSD project administrators' too, to make the
output be:

	the FreeBSD mirror sites mailing list <hubs@FreeBSD.org>

Don't make changes to 'The Corporate Networkers Guide'.  It's copyrighted
work, and you (or the Doc team) would have to contact the author and
published first, get their approval, if that it at all possible.

<not-fine>
  books::corp-net-guide.patch
</not-fine>

Super cool work :)))

Giorgos Keramidas                       FreeBSD Documentation Project
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And this is just with make lint :

===> de_DE.ISO8859-1
===> de_DE.ISO8859-1/books
===> de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/faq
/usr/local/bin/nsgmls -s -D /usr/obj/usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/faq -c /usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../de_DE.ISO8859-1/
share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/catalog  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/c
atalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog   /usr
/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml
===> de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook
/usr/local/bin/nsgmls -s -i chap.basics -i chap.bibliography -i chap.boot -i chap.config -i chap.disks -i chap.kernelconfig -i chap.po
rts -i chap.security -i chap.serialcomms -i chap.sound -i chap.users -D /usr/obj/usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook -c /usr/doc/de
_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../de_DE.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgm
l/catalog  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/d
ocbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog   /usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml
/usr/local/bin/nsgmls:/usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml:170:30:E: cannot find "serialcomms/chapter.sgml"; tried "/usr/
doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter.sgml", "/usr/obj/usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter.sgm
l"
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc.
{root@rhadamanth}-{/usr/doc} #

Ceri

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On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 09:54:52AM +0000, Ceri wrote:
> ===> de_DE.ISO8859-1
> ===> de_DE.ISO8859-1/books
> ===> de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/faq
> ===> de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook
> /usr/local/bin/nsgmls -s -i chap.basics -i chap.bibliography -i chap.boot -i chap.config -i chap.disks -i chap.kernelconfig -i chap.po
> rts -i chap.security -i chap.serialcomms -i chap.sound -i chap.users -D /usr/obj/usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook -c /usr/doc/de
> _DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../de_DE.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgm
> l/catalog  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/d
> ocbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog   /usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml
> /usr/local/bin/nsgmls:/usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml:170:30:E: cannot find "serialcomms/chapter.sgml"; tried "/usr/
> doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter.sgml", "/usr/obj/usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter.sgm
> l"

This is strange - I've just tried both make lint and a regular make on
my box with a cvsup-only /usr/doc tree.  And everything worked just
like a charm...

Please check your local copy.

/s/Udo
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:16:16AM +0100, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 09:54:52AM +0000, Ceri wrote:
> > ===> de_DE.ISO8859-1
> > ===> de_DE.ISO8859-1/books
> > ===> de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/faq
> > ===> de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook
> > /usr/local/bin/nsgmls -s -i chap.basics -i chap.bibliography -i chap.boot -i chap.config -i chap.disks -i chap.kernelconfig -i chap.po
> > rts -i chap.security -i chap.serialcomms -i chap.sound -i chap.users -D /usr/obj/usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook -c /usr/doc/de
> > _DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../de_DE.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgm
> > l/catalog  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/d
> > ocbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog   /usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml
> > /usr/local/bin/nsgmls:/usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml:170:30:E: cannot find "serialcomms/chapter.sgml"; tried "/usr/
> > doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter.sgml", "/usr/obj/usr/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter.sgm
> > l"
> 
> This is strange - I've just tried both make lint and a regular make on
> my box with a cvsup-only /usr/doc tree.  And everything worked just
> like a charm...
> 
> Please check your local copy.

Sure enough, I checked out another copy of the tree and it's worked fine.

Sorry for crying wolf.

Ceri

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"Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com> wrote:
> It looks like majordomo has been faithfully recording the
> content of this list since July of 1997.  Unfortunately,
> it doesn't show up on the FreeBSD.org mail archive web
> interface.  Is this the right place to ask for the aic7xxx
> archive to be added to both the search page and the archives page?

I guess you're talking about freefall:/g/mail/archive/aic7xxx.  You'll
have to talk to wosch@ about getting that file accessible via the web
(http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/aic7xxx, I guess).  It's
somewhat different than the rest of the mailing list archives in that
it hasn't been broken up by year; I don't know if that can be easily
rectified now, or whether it's a problem to begin with.  Once you get
someone to put that file where it belongs on docs.freebsd.org, we can
add it to the search form on www.freebsd.org.

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got my wheelmouse working with putting these lines in my XF86Config

Section "Pointer"
   Protocol      "PS/2"
   Device        "/dev/sysmouse"
   Buttons       5
   ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

I'm using Evo 4000 workstation of compaq
a combination of the doc in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/x.html#AEN3715
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Hi,

For some time now, I have been fooling myself that I am working
on a Bulgarian translation of the FDP.  However, today I actually
sat down and tried to fix some of the more obvious bogons in what
I had done so far.  In doing so, I stumbled into some weirdness
in docproj.mk's handling of document files.

First of all, some background.  In CP1251 (or windows-12512), which
is the character set most widely used for Bulgarian Cyrillic documents,
the lowercase letter 'ja' has a character code of 255.  This, needless
to say, confuzzles jade (as it should rightfully confuzzle any SGML
validator), and the only way this character can be represented is by
using the &#1130; SGML entity.  However, using &#1130; instead of
the letter 'ja' throughout the documentation is cumbersome to say
the least, so I came up with the idea of generating the article.sgml
(or chapter, or book) dynamically, using a simple sed(1) substitution.

This led to another problem - the generated article.sgml file is placed
into the obj directory, and doc.docbook.mk defines MASTERDOC to point
explicitly to ${.CURDIR}.  Therefore, I finally came up with the attached
patch, which introduces two new variables - XFORM_CMD and XFORM_ARGS -
and, conditional on their values and the existence of an article-raw.sgml
file, generates the article.sgml and sets MASTERDOC properly.

The truth is, I only tested this with an article build.  I have no idea
whether it will work with a book.  Still, I would like to gather some
opinions on whether people like this change or there is a far better
and faster way of dealing with "strange" characters in .sgml sources.

G'luck,
Peter

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+MASTERDOC?=3D	${DOC}.${DOCBOOKSUFFIX}
+${DOC}.${DOCBOOKSUFFIX}:	${DOC}-raw.${DOCBOOKSUFFIX}
+	${XFORM_CMD} ${XFORM_ARGS} < ${.CURDIR}/${DOC}-raw.${DOCBOOKSUFFIX} > ${D=
OC}.${DOCBOOKSUFFIX}
+.else
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Hi,
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 02:50:55PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote:

[solve problems with 'special' national chars by converting them on
the fly during the doc build]

I do not like the idea at all, even though I could profit from it for
the DE versions (we have our own set of special characters).  The
basic problem is simple:  What happens if somebody without support
for your special charset needs to access the document?  Chances are
that your average $EDITOR will throw a fit because of all those
strange characters and that you will be unable to work on the file.
And if you must fix the file because it breaks the doc builed,
you are up the proverbial stream.

> The truth is, I only tested this with an article build.  I have no idea
> whether it will work with a book.  Still, I would like to gather some
> opinions on whether people like this change or there is a far better
> and faster way of dealing with "strange" characters in .sgml sources.

We have similar problems with the German version and there is a better
solution.  You can either
a) reprogramm your editor to insert the correct SGML entity when you
hit the key(s) that would generate your special character
b) attach conversion scripts to the load/save process that do the
on-fly-conversion for you.  The file you edit seems to contain the
special characters but the real files on disks contain the SGML
entities.

Check the examples directory for the scripts.  They are intended
for vim and work reasonably well.  Personally, I prefer option a)
because it also ensures that the line length will be reasonable
even if people do not use the on-the-fly conversion scripts.

/s/Udo
PS: Having to enter the SGML stuff by hand is not that bad - I just
translated the complete Release Notes with an english keyboard and
had to type all those &auml; by hand.  You get used to it ;-)
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If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> ue          2002/03/13 07:29:52 PST
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>   Modified files:
>     release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha proc-alpha.sgml 
>   Log:
>   SGML fixes, part2: block elements like lists do not belong into inline
>   elements like paragraphs

First...SGML fixes are a Good Thing (TM).

Is there a reference for this particular change?  According to the FDP
Primer, <para></para> is a block element too.  This is not a challenge, 
but a request for education.  :-)

Assuming this is a required change, are you planning to apply it to
other parts of the hardware list as well?  If so, we should discuss this
first.  Due to the way we currently use the arch= attribute, applying
your change everywhere will mean we need to make two edits (instead of
one) to enable or disable inclusion of a driver for a particular
architecture's hardware list.  I'm concerned about the added potential
for error.

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If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> Hi,
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 05:12:04PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> >   1.297     +4 -2      src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.
> sgml
> 
> I think there is a small typo/omission in the entry:
> 
> ] This bug could have allowed an authenticated remote user to cause
> ] &man.sshd.8; to execute arbitrary code with superuser privileges,
> 
> This part is correct and clear: A 'bad' client can abuse the server
> 
> ] or allowed a connecting SSH client to execute arbitrary
> ] code with the privileges of the client user. 
> 
> but I think this part should be clearer.  According to the advisories
> I have read, a 'bad' server can abuse the client.  My suggestion
> is to replace this part with "or allowed a malicous SSH server to
> execute arbitrary code on the client system with the privileges of
> the client user".

Sorry for the delay.  You're probably right here...any comments from the
security officer team?

Having had to amend this release note once already, I want to 
finally-get-it-right-this-time-dammit.  :-)

Thanks!

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On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 08:46:36AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> Is there a reference for this particular change?  According to the FDP
> Primer, <para></para> is a block element too.  This is not a challenge, 
> but a request for education.  :-)

Yes, but the purpose of <para></para> is to contain character data.
The commit message was a bit short or even sloppy in this regard.

There are two main reasons for this kind of change:

a) Try this: seperate the 'create html' and 'fix html' steps of the
build process (in other words, run tidy seperatly).  Now run tidy,
without throwing its output away.  Check its messages when it
encounters an <itemitzedlist> inside a <para>.  It complains and
has to slap in extra breaks.

b) Try loading the .html file of the old version in Word.  Yes,
it's a microsoft product but unfortunately, it is the only way
I have to check the spelling of the DE version (ispell-de does
not handle 8 bit characters, and the German umlauts are 8 bit).
You will notice that Word also has massive problems to display
the text correctly.  If you load the list of supported hardware,
you end with text that is just one column wide, the other 79
are indentation.

Additionally, there have been a lot cases where similar changes
were made to the FAQ, always with the comment 'bad SGML'.
 
> I'm concerned about the added potential for error.

I'm not concerned about the "potential" - I fell into this particular
trap during my first attempt to translate the list of supported
hardware and had to start over.

Right now, I do not want to open this can of worms and until I
find a technique that can disable several elements with a single
change and uses 'good' SGML, the various documents that need this
construct are safe.

/s/Udo
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If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:

> Right now, I do not want to open this can of worms and until I
> find a technique that can disable several elements with a single
> change and uses 'good' SGML, the various documents that need this
> construct are safe.

Whew.  OK, I'll try to be good from now on.  :-)

Now, if you (or anyone else) can figure out a way to do this enabling/
disabling, I'd be extremely interested.  The current way of using arch=
attributes plus stylesheet support of disabling elements has the
disadvantage that those elements are still "counted" for the purposes of
sequence numbers (section numberings, etc.).

The old way, which used INCLUDE/IGNORE, was really cumbersome because it
added two lines to every single element where it was used.  Plus, it 
wasn't flexible enough to handle an element that can be enabled if a 
conjunction of conditions is true (for example, "i386 OR alpha").

Thanks,

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Hi,
I am currently updating the various ports installed on my box and I had
to notice that it is no longer possible to install the docproj meta
port without getting X11 installed.

The main reason is the dependency on peps, which has a hard dependecny
on X11.  In a fit of frustration, I kicked peps, netpbm, libxslt, and
scr2png (everything related to graphics) out of the port.  links also
went away as I do not see the point of installing Yet Another Browser.

After that, it was time for a pkg_delete frenzy, followed by a
rebuild of the complete port. After a generous make clean in /usr/doc,
I am still able to build the Release Notes, the FAQ and the FDP
primer.

I cannot build anything that use eps or scr graphics, or produces
.ps/.pdf files, of course.  But that's a price I do not mind to
pay, because I saved myself from building all these packages:

XFree86-3.3.6_10
freetype2-2.0.8
gd-1.8.4_5
ghostscript-gnu-6.52_5
jpeg-6b_1
netpbm-9.24
peps-1.0
pkgconfig-0.10.0
png-1.2.1
python-2.2_1
scr2png-1.1
tiff-3.5.7

And this list doesn't even include all the build infrastructure you
have to build and install along the way.  Things like imake, gmake,
unzip, ...

In other words, it would probably be WAY more effective to forget
the on-the-fly graphics conversion stuff and simply stuff the .png
version of our .eps files into the repository as well.  The same
thing applies to the .scr files.

On a related note, I noticed that the 3.1 stylesheets have been
removed from the port because no docs require it (rev. 1.30).  Well,
the 3.1 stylesheets are still installed, because both sgmlformat
and docbook-1.2 need them (according to +REQUIRED_BY).  Actually,
we are still installing every docbook version that ever existed
and linuxdoc for good measure.  Is this really neccessary?  Do
we still have documents that use linuxdoc?  Or any docbook
stylesheet version < 3.1?  There two english documents and a
lot of translations that still use 3.1, but everything older
than that should go into the bit bucket.

IMHO, of course.

/s/Udo
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 06:17:14PM +0000, Mark Valentine wrote:
> I've never been happy that the FreeBSD documentation can't be built using
> the base system (which has a perfectly good typesetter...),=20

I'd love to see a DocBook to -man macro translation that used a standard
transformation language (which rules out textproc/instant).

> I presume these packages are all on FreeBSD Services' DVD-ROM release...

Packages, *and* the ports distfiles.

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On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 01:06:50PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
> >   - for each opening tag, there should be a closing tag
> 
> My understanding was, the SGML does not require this. XML does... Is
> that wrong?

That depends on your definition of depends ;-)  If you mean depend as
in 'does it compile' then the answer is no, it does not need this.
In this context (FreeBSD docs), the answer is yes.  We do not use
minimized closing tags (i.e. </>), either.

And once you had to track down a 'Why does this thing look so strange?'
problem in an sgml document, you know why.

/s/Udo
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If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:

> I am currently updating the various ports installed on my box and I had
> to notice that it is no longer possible to install the docproj meta
> port without getting X11 installed.

Did you try WITHOUT_X11?

(Yeah, I know it's not documented anywhere in the docproj Makefile.  
But that's how we build docproj for a release build.)

> The main reason is the dependency on peps, which has a hard dependecny
> on X11.  In a fit of frustration, I kicked peps, netpbm, libxslt, and
> scr2png (everything related to graphics) out of the port.  

peps depends on X11 because ghostscript does.  (Unless you build using 
WITHOUT_X11.)

libxslt is used in the Web site build.  As far as I know it doesn't 
have anything to do with graphics.

> links also
> went away as I do not see the point of installing Yet Another Browser.

You need this to make the ASCII (*.txt) files.  It's used as a 
postprocessor on the HTML.

> After that, it was time for a pkg_delete frenzy, followed by a
> rebuild of the complete port. After a generous make clean in /usr/doc,
> I am still able to build the Release Notes, the FAQ and the FDP
> primer.

Build to what output formats?

> I cannot build anything that use eps or scr graphics, or produces
> .ps/.pdf files, of course.  But that's a price I do not mind to
> pay, because I saved myself from building all these packages:
> 
> XFree86-3.3.6_10
> freetype2-2.0.8
> gd-1.8.4_5
> ghostscript-gnu-6.52_5
> jpeg-6b_1
> netpbm-9.24
> peps-1.0
> pkgconfig-0.10.0
> png-1.2.1
> python-2.2_1

I just (independently) discovered that python is now a dependency for
libxml2, which in turn is a dependency for libxslt.  This mysteriously
showed up at some point in the not-too-distant-past.

> scr2png-1.1
> tiff-3.5.7
> 
> And this list doesn't even include all the build infrastructure you
> have to build and install along the way.  Things like imake, gmake,
> unzip, ...

imake is there for XFree86.  It's not used by anything else.

The full list of packages needed by docproj (minus jadetex and its 
dependencies) is in /usr/src/release/Makefile.inc.docports.

> In other words, it would probably be WAY more effective to forget
> the on-the-fly graphics conversion stuff and simply stuff the .png
> version of our .eps files into the repository as well.  The same
> thing applies to the .scr files.

I'd be concerned about the ability for the different representations to
get out of sync.  Typically we don't commit generated versions of files 
to CVS to avoid this problem as well as repo bloat.

[snip]

> Actually,
> we are still installing every docbook version that ever existed
> and linuxdoc for good measure.  Is this really neccessary?  Do
> we still have documents that use linuxdoc?  Or any docbook
> stylesheet version < 3.1?  There two english documents and a
> lot of translations that still use 3.1, but everything older
> than that should go into the bit bucket.

No argument with this.

Even forgetting the issue of on-the-fly graphics conversions, you're
proposing to remove functionality needed by some fairly mundane
operations, such as the Web site build or building *.txt files.

Cheers,

Bruce.



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Hi,
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:55:06AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> 
> > I am currently updating the various ports installed on my box and I had
> > to notice that it is no longer possible to install the docproj meta
> > port without getting X11 installed.
> 
> Did you try WITHOUT_X11?

I thought we had WITH_X11=NO for this?  I'm rerunning the build right
now after deleting all those packages (again... sigh).

And again, this time with BATCH=YES, the ghostscript dialog box and
2>&1 | tee logfile don't mix.
 
> libxslt is used in the Web site build.  As far as I know it doesn't 
> have anything to do with graphics.

Seems I saw the word GNOME in the description and that this was enough
to trip my already overloaded bloatware alert circuits.

> > After that, it was time for a pkg_delete frenzy, followed by a
> > rebuild of the complete port. After a generous make clean in /usr/doc,
> > I am still able to build the Release Notes, the FAQ and the FDP
> > primer.
> 
> Build to what output formats?

HTML only, as usual.

> I just (independently) discovered that python is now a dependency for
> libxml2, which in turn is a dependency for libxslt.  This mysteriously
> showed up at some point in the not-too-distant-past.

Yes, and nobody noticed.  Which is a clear sign that things are
getting too big and out of hand.
 
> I'd be concerned about the ability for the different representations to
> get out of sync.  Typically we don't commit generated versions of files 
> to CVS to avoid this problem as well as repo bloat.

Well, I prefer a small bit of repo bloat to a lot of software bloat.
And as you say: "Typically we don't commit generated versions",
there are always exceptions.  Some of the USB headers, for example.

> Even forgetting the issue of on-the-fly graphics conversions, you're
> proposing to remove functionality needed by some fairly mundane
> operations, such as the Web site build or building *.txt files.

Well, as links does not pull anything else in, I can live with putting
it back in.  As for everything:  If the price for lowering the bar for
new contributors is just a bit of repo bloat, we should be able to live
with it.

At the very minimum, we should add a hint about WITHOUT_X11 to the
docproj port.  A better option would be to add a docproj-lite port
that has JADETEX=no and WITHOUT_X11 defined by default.

/s/Udo
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:12:33PM +0100, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> And again, this time with BATCH=YES, the ghostscript dialog box and
> 2>&1 | tee logfile don't mix.

Well, this one worked, fortunately. Which leaves:  

> At the very minimum, we should add a hint about WITHOUT_X11 to the
> docproj port.  A better option would be to add a docproj-lite port
> that has JADETEX=no and WITHOUT_X11 defined by default.

/s/Udo
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James Gorham wrote:

> I recently wrote up a small how-to on getting SMTP Auth going on 
> FreeBSD, with Sendmail.  A friend suggested I submit it to the 
> freebsd-doc project, for possible inclusion into the handbook. The 
> how-to is currently on my blog at:
> http://www.veldt.com/archives/00000063.php
> 
> If this is something you'd be interested in, please let me know. I'd be 
> happy to clean it up and make it proper for inclusion, and would be 
> excited to contribute to the project.
> 
> Regards,
> James
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Could you maybe produce a text based version of this?  I have time to
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In this document:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html , nr 9.10.
"How can I use the NT loader to boot FreeBSD?":

Listing steps out in which instead of /dev/rda0a it should be /dev/rad0a





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On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 01:00:22AM +0100, suChY wrote:
> In this document:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html , nr 9.10.
> "How can I use the NT loader to boot FreeBSD?":
>=20
> Listing steps out in which instead of /dev/rda0a it should be /dev/rad0a

No, that's a valid example.  /dev/rda0a is a parition on a SCSI disk.
It's not a very good example and the whole answer is less then helpful
on modern systems but it is correct in context.  (This is a prime example
of the sort of question Michael Lucas wants to take out back and shoot.)
If someone were updating it, using /dev/ad0s1a would probably be least
confusing.

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How about remove www/en/register.sgml and www/cgi/reg.cgi?

Newsletter seems dead since #2 has been issued.

Index: publish.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/publish.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.49
diff -u -r1.49 publish.sgml
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@@ -552,9 +552,6 @@
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 	    #1</a> of the FreeBSD Newsletter, published and distributed free
 	  of charge by <a href="http://www.wccdrom.com/">Walnut Creek CDROM</a>.
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-	  to receive it.  Submit articles/make comments by sending email to
-	  <a href="mailto:newsletter@FreeBSD.ORG">newsletter@FreeBSD.ORG</a>.
 	</td>
       </tr>
 
@@ -565,9 +562,6 @@
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 	  of charge by <a href="http://www.wccdrom.com/">Walnut Creek CDROM</a>.
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 	  <a href="news/newsflash.html">Newsflash</a> page.</p></li>
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"Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> The full list of packages needed by docproj (minus jadetex and its 
> dependencies) is in /usr/src/release/Makefile.inc.docports.
               ^^^^
I think you mean "should be in".  For example, python isn't listed.
This file is a good idea, but it gets out of date despite our best
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If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote:
> "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> > The full list of packages needed by docproj (minus jadetex and its 
> > dependencies) is in /usr/src/release/Makefile.inc.docports.
>                ^^^^
> I think you mean "should be in".  For example, python isn't listed.

I thought I wrote that but apparently I didn't.

python *shouldn't* be there BTW.  There's nothing in FDP or the Web site
that uses it.  We probably want to build docproj (during releases) using
WITHOUT_PYTHON.

Sigh, one more Makefile knob that may or may not need to be tweaked.  
I'm starting to like ue's idea of docproj-lite, coupled with some 
better documentation and a trimming down of some of the old DTDs (for 
both docproj and docproj-lite).

> This file is a good idea, but it gets out of date despite our best
> efforts.

This tells me two things...first, I must be the only person who builds 
releases with documentation and no ports, and second, it's been awhile 
since I've built a release.  :-)

It didn't help that this was a stealth dependency that snuck in with
another update to the libxml2 port, no mention whatsoever in the commit
log.  :-(

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On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:55:06AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> > I am currently updating the various ports installed on my box and I had
> > to notice that it is no longer possible to install the docproj meta
> > port without getting X11 installed.
>=20
> Did you try WITHOUT_X11?

That should fix the dependency on X.

> I just (independently) discovered that python is now a dependency for
> libxml2, which in turn is a dependency for libxslt.  This mysteriously
> showed up at some point in the not-too-distant-past.

Eww.

IMHO that should be a WITH_PYTHON test, with the sense inverted.

> > Actually,
> > we are still installing every docbook version that ever existed
> > and linuxdoc for good measure.  Is this really neccessary?  Do
> > we still have documents that use linuxdoc?  Or any docbook
> > stylesheet version < 3.1?  There two english documents and a
> > lot of translations that still use 3.1, but everything older
> > than that should go into the bit bucket.
>=20
> No argument with this.
>=20
> Even forgetting the issue of on-the-fly graphics conversions, you're
> proposing to remove functionality needed by some fairly mundane
> operations, such as the Web site build or building *.txt files.

LinuxDoc and DocBook versions < 4 should definitely be able to go.

In a spare moment I might try and add FORMATS support to the docproj
port, so you can do

    make FORMATS=3D... install

and it will build the dependency list accordingly.  So if you're only
ever going to build HTML output files it won't both installing anything
that's not needed by that toolchain.

Someone else should feel free to beat me to the punch though. . .

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Dima Dorfman <dima@trit.org> writes:

> "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> > The full list of packages needed by docproj (minus jadetex and its 
> > dependencies) is in /usr/src/release/Makefile.inc.docports.
>                ^^^^
> I think you mean "should be in".  For example, python isn't listed.
> This file is a good idea, but it gets out of date despite our best
> efforts.

In case anyone doesn't know about "pkg_tree" or "portupgrade -nR":

    pkg_tree -v docproj | grep -v docproj | tr -d '|\\_ ' | sort -u

gives a list of dependencies.  (I wouldn't think "-v" should be needed,
but without it, XFree86 and python were omitted.)

I notice several differences on my STABLE-05-mar system:

Only Makefile.inc.docport has
    Mk
    unzip
    gettext
    gmake
    libtool
    ghostscript-gnu
    docbook

while only pkg_tree (on my sys about 05'mar) gives
    XFree86
    XFree86-libraries
    docbook
    ghostscript-afpl  **probably my fault
    imake
    jade
    python
    xhtml


Then I tried "portupgrade -nR":

Only Makefile.inc.docport has
    Mk
    unzip
    gettext
    gmake
    libtool
    ghostscript-gnu

while only "portupgrade -nR" (on my sys about 05'mar) gives
    imake-4
    ghostscript-afpl
    jade
    xhtml
    XFree86-4-libraries

I think my ports are in good shape (but a week old).

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* John Indra <maverick@office.naver.co.id> [020313 19:47] wrote:
> Dear all...
> 
> This morning I found a very interesting mail. All of you can see it from:
> 
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1669241+0+current/freebsd-questions

FreeBSD 5.0 has (being a developer release) has special diagnostics
turned on in malloc that causes it to take more time to do allocations.

see the malloc(3) manpage and make sure to disable these features
if doing benchmarks.

I'm sorry I can't find out all the other tweaks needed to get the
best performance out of 5.x, perhaps the -doc people can point
us the way.

niether the tuning(7) manpage nor
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html
describe this...

-Alfred

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Hi folks--

I've activated the sparc64 install document in the release documentation
for 5.0-CURRENT.  It's largely a collaboration between tmm, jake, and
murray, with me doing some tweaking and kibitzing.

A few rough spots:  This document will eventually give the URLs for
obtaining FreeBSD/sparc64; right now, the URLs point to where we *plan*
to put the files. There's a warning in the document about this.  Also,
there's also some places where I've tried to streamline the document,
but stalled because I don't actually have a sparc64 system to work with.

The main reason I'm activating the document up now is to give the 
translation teams time to work on it before 5.0-DP1.

In the src tree:	src/release/doc/en_US-ISO8859-1/installation/sparc64/
Rendered versions:	http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/

Comments (and commits) welcome.

Cheers,

Bruce.



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On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 01:49:47AM +0000, Dima Dorfman wrote:
> "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> > The full list of packages needed by docproj (minus jadetex and its=20
> > dependencies) is in /usr/src/release/Makefile.inc.docports.
>                ^^^^
> I think you mean "should be in".  For example, python isn't listed.
> This file is a good idea, but it gets out of date despite our best
> efforts.

How about

cd /usr/ports/textproc/docproj && make all-depends-list ?

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On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:40:23AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2002-03-13 09:27, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> > At http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/doc/fbsdmail/
[snip]
> In books::faq.patch change this:
>=20
> 	+            the &a.platforms;.
> 	+            </para>
>=20
> to the following:
>=20
> 	+            the &a.platforms;.</para>

I was trying to avoid excessive whitespace changes, as per Michael Lucas's
suggestions in earlier threads.  In fact, I will do this as a two-step
commit - one to replace long-winded descriptions with entities, and then
another one to clean up whitespace.

> In books::fdp-primer.patch change this:
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ist Entities//EN"> %mailing-lists;
>=20
> to read:
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> 	+<!ENTITY % mailing-lists PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Mailing L=
ist Entities//EN">
> 	+%mailing-lists;

Oops.  Thanks :)

> In books::fdp-primer.patch don't let the comma have any whitespace
> before it:
>=20
> 	+         let you have any) then you can e-mail &a.nik;
> 	+          , and arrange to e-mail the files
>=20
> should look like:
>=20
> +         let you have any) then you can e-mail &a.nik;,
> +         and arrange to e-mail the files

See above about whitespace..

> In the handbook diff, the following might look a little strange:
>=20
> 		  please contact the FreeBSD project administrators
> 	-         <email>hubs@FreeBSD.org</email> for more information.</para>
> 	+         &a.hubs; for more information.</para>
>=20
> since &a.hubs; will make the output have the following text:
>=20
> 	the FreeBSD project administrators FreeBSD mirror sites mailing
> 	list <hubs@FreeBSD.org>
>=20
> you might want to remove 'FreeBSD project administrators' too, to make the
> output be:
>=20
> 	the FreeBSD mirror sites mailing list <hubs@FreeBSD.org>

Ack..  must have missed this one in the proofreading.  Thanks!

> Don't make changes to 'The Corporate Networkers Guide'.  It's copyrighted
> work, and you (or the Doc team) would have to contact the author and
> published first, get their approval, if that it at all possible.
>=20
> <not-fine>
>   books::corp-net-guide.patch
> </not-fine>

Yep, I have to admit that this thought crossed my mind, but I plain forgot
to ask about it when writing the actual e-mail..

> Super cool work :)))

Thanks :)  And thanks for a super cool and useful review!

G'luck,
Peter

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On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 10:39:18AM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote:
> 
> How about remove www/en/register.sgml and www/cgi/reg.cgi?
> 
> Newsletter seems dead since #2 has been issued.

Go for it, please commit your patch, cvs rm those files, and close
docs/35563.

	- Murray

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It seems www/en/conspectus is not updated since 2000.

Conspectus is good idea, but it requires huge human resources
(editorial work).  These pages will be worth when frequently up to
date and caught up to mailing lists timely fashion.

I'd like to kill www/en/conspectus pages until more active editors
will appear.

Comments?


-- 
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hi,

Why kill ? Maybe just disable build + remove references to it
is enough ?

On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:26:31PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote:
> 
> It seems www/en/conspectus is not updated since 2000.
> 
> Conspectus is good idea, but it requires huge human resources
> (editorial work).  These pages will be worth when frequently up to
> date and caught up to mailing lists timely fashion.
> 
> I'd like to kill www/en/conspectus pages until more active editors
> will appear.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> 
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Hi,
while you are talking about document activations: I just noticed
that the hardware notes for IA-64 are not connected to the build.
Ok, the proc-ia64 article consists of the line 'write me', but if
5.0-DP1 runs on IA-64 Systems, we should connect it...

/s/Udo
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Just noticed these during translation:

RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/sparc64/install.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -r1.7 install.sgml
59c59
<       possible.
---
>       possible.</para>
142c142
<         get to the PROM prompt.  It looks like
---
>         get to the PROM prompt.  It looks like</para>
145c145
<         or
---
>         <para>or</para>
147c147
<         (on SMP systems).</para>
---
>         <para>(on SMP systems).</para>
410c410
<       label. The information presented to you should look like:
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>       label. The information presented to you should look like:</para>
436c436
<       You can now add new partitions in the same format as the already
---
>       <para>You can now add new partitions in the same format as the already
494c494
<       <xref linkend="creating-disk-label">.
---
>       <xref linkend="creating-disk-label">.</para>

But I think it would be a better idea to change the <screen> tags for
the OpenBoot prompts to <prompt> and pull the whole stuff inline.

And a note that older OpenBoot versions do not support DHCP correctly
and that you should update your OpenBoot firmware if you have mysterios
DHCP problems cannot hurt, either.

/s/Udo
PS: On second thought, make that a note that you should have the
most current version of the OpenBoot firmware, period.  Even if
some firmware updates (most notably those for the Netra T1 AC
100/105) are only available for customers with a support contract.
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At Thu, 14 Mar 2002 11:38:30 +0000 (UTC),
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> Why kill ? Maybe just disable build + remove references to it
> is enough ?

Yes, that is one of our option.  I think that's enough.  But I like
"cvs remove" of these file because:

o More clean checked out directory.
o We do not do Attic cleaning in www repository, so we can refer
  history of these files even if we do "cvs remove".


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Just noticed a small SNAFU:  The bootp/dhcp chapter talks about the
ethernet address used in the tftp example - but the tftp setup uses
the IP address.
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If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:

> while you are talking about document activations: I just noticed
> that the hardware notes for IA-64 are not connected to the build.
> Ok, the proc-ia64 article consists of the line 'write me', but if
> 5.0-DP1 runs on IA-64 Systems, we should connect it...

[If you really want to make sure I'll read something, please keep me as 
one of the explicit recipients of your email.  Thanks.]

5.0-DP1 will target the i386, alpha, and sparc64, but not the ia64 (or
powerpc).  I agree that if it we were going to target the ia64 for the 
first preview, we should finish the document off and connect it to the 
build.  But it's not there yet.

Cheers,

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If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> Just noticed these during translation:

[Fixes for various SGML problems]

Go for it.

> And a note that older OpenBoot versions do not support DHCP correctly
> and that you should update your OpenBoot firmware if you have mysterios
> DHCP problems cannot hurt, either.

[snip]

> PS: On second thought, make that a note that you should have the
> most current version of the OpenBoot firmware, period.  Even if
> some firmware updates (most notably those for the Netra T1 AC
> 100/105) are only available for customers with a support contract.

It sounds like you have more experience with this than I...I'd say
either run it past some sparc64 developers or if if this is something
obvious that doesn't need checking, go ahead and fix it.

(Ditto for the IP/Ethernet address thing in the BOOTP/DHCP section.)

Thanks!

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On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 07:55:56AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> > And a note that older OpenBoot versions do not support DHCP correctly
> > and that you should update your OpenBoot firmware if you have mysterios
> > DHCP problems cannot hurt, either.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > PS: On second thought, make that a note that you should have the
> > most current version of the OpenBoot firmware, period.  Even if
> > some firmware updates (most notably those for the Netra T1 AC
> > 100/105) are only available for customers with a support contract.
> 
> It sounds like you have more experience with this than I...I'd say
> either run it past some sparc64 developers or if if this is something
> obvious that doesn't need checking, go ahead and fix it.

I prefer to run it past the crowd on freebsd-sparc in any because
I do not know much basic stuff they want in the installation docs.
Right now, this kind of notice is probably not neccessary as anybody
who works with OpenBoot on a regular basis knows about the problems.

> (Ditto for the IP/Ethernet address thing in the BOOTP/DHCP section.)

Same one for this one. 

/s/Udo
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Hello,

I'm fairly new to FreeBSD (from the Linux world), and I setup a PC as a
NATting router for my home network running FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE, using our
cable (TV) internet connection.  I used information from the Handbook,
which helped a lot!

I have a suggestion:  In section 17.11 (NAT) of the Handbook, please add
some sort of mention about the "-dynamic" flag to natd.  I know that you
have references to the natd(8) man page all over, and I should have done a
better job of reading through it, but I think that doing NAT with a
dynamic address (usually from a DHCP server, as in my case) is a common
enough situation that it'd be worth mentioning right there.

I just got burned with my ISP gave me a new address and pointed me at a
new gateway, and eventually all traffic from my FreeBSD box stopped
working, because I hadn't passed the -dynamic flag to natd.  I couldn't
even ping the default gateway, so I assumed it was a problem on their end.
Oops.

Anyway, please consider adding info to the Handbook about using natd with
dynamic IP addresses, I'm sure I'm not the first that learned that info
the hard way.  Thanks!

Jason

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Jason Maas wrote:

>Hello,


Hi there ;)


> 
> Anyway, please consider adding info to the Handbook about using natd with
> dynamic IP addresses, I'm sure I'm not the first that learned that info
> the hard way.  Thanks!
> 
> Jason
> 
> 

I seem to be mr advanced networking this month, and I wanted to touch up 
the natd chapter anyways...  So I guess this will fall on my ears and in 
my lap ;)  Eventually (within a month) my friend ;)

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The following reply was made to PR docs/35711; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org,
	Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
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Subject: Re: docs/35711: the "gnats page" should move to its own subdirectory
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:28:03 -0500

 Alot of people have commented about the gnats move, and DES even liked 
 the idea...  Are we all clear on this?  Could this perhaps be done, and 
 the pr closed?  Thanks
 
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On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 07:55:56AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> > Just noticed these during translation:
> 
> [Fixes for various SGML problems]
> 
> Go for it.

There will be a second version of the patch as soon as I have finished
the translation.  There are a couple more places where my SGML sense
started tingling: some <screen>s that should have been commands, a
couple <> or &lt;> or &lt;&gt; that should be <replaceable>s, the
paragraphs for the disk label should be a <procedure> with <step>s,
etc.

I'm fixing the stuff on the fly in the German version, you can use it
as a preview for the real thing.

/s/Udo
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The following reply was made to PR docs/35711; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
To: darklogik@pittgoth.com
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/35711: the "gnats page" should move to its own subdirectory
Date: 14 Mar 2002 19:21:42 +0100

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 > Alot of people have commented about the gnats move, and DES even liked
 > the idea...  Are we all clear on this?  Could this perhaps be done,
 > and the pr closed?  Thanks
 
 If I have the webmaster's approval, I can actually do most of it
 myself (create the subdirectory in the www repository, create the
 actual pages), but I still need someone to fix the redirection for
 bugs.freebsd.org.
 
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The following reply was made to PR docs/35711; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
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Subject: Re: docs/35711: the "gnats page" should move to its own subdirectory
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 Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
 
 > Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com> writes:
 >>
 > 
 > If I have the webmaster's approval, I can actually do most of it
 > myself (create the subdirectory in the www repository, create the
 > actual pages), but I still need someone to fix the redirection for
 > bugs.freebsd.org.
 > 
 > DES
 > 
 
 hehe, Then lets get on it ;)  I'm sure you've taken the liberty to send 
 provide our webmaster with the required suggestion and information?  If 
 not, I can do it...  I'd rather have you follow it up though ;)
 
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Hi,
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 09:43:40PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> Comments (and commits) welcome.
 
as promised, I have included the second version of my patch:

- add some forgotten </para>
- <screen> and friends should not be inside a <para> entity
- Use <command>foo</command> instead of screen in the disk label section
- Use <procedure> for this section
- disklabel -e <device> auto was replaced by disklabel -e <device> (looks
  like an artifact from a copy&paste action)
- use <replaceable></replaceable> instead of <>, &lt;>, &lt;&gt; in some
  places
- <screen> tags should snuggle up to their content
- reduce the number of sentences torn apart by screen presentations

/s/Udo
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Index: install.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/sparc64/install.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -r1.7 install.sgml
--- install.sgml	14 Mar 2002 01:40:47 -0000	1.7
+++ install.sgml	14 Mar 2002 18:49:31 -0000
@@ -56,7 +56,7 @@
       <para>This section describes the files you will need for a
 	&os;/&arch; installation.  The links in this document point to
 	the main &os; FTP server.  Please use a mirror site instead if
-	possible.
+	possible.</para>
 
       <important>
 	<para>The URLs in this section are provisional and subject to
@@ -139,12 +139,10 @@
 	on the keyboard, or send a
         <command>BREAK</command> over the serial console (using for
         example <command>~#</command> in &man.tip.1; or &man.cu.1;) to
-        get to the PROM prompt.  It looks like
+        get to the PROM prompt.  It looks like this:</para>
 
-        <screen>ok </screen>
-        or
-        <screen>ok {0} </screen>
-        (on SMP systems).</para>
+        <screen><prompt>ok     </prompt>      (systems with one CPU)
+<prompt>ok {0} </prompt>      (SMP systems)</screen>
     </sect3>
   </sect2>
     
@@ -242,7 +240,7 @@
   :rp="<replaceable>tftp-server-ip-address</replaceable>:<replaceable>nfs-root-directory</replaceable>":\
   :sm=<replaceable>ip-netmask</replaceable>
 
-&lt;name of the entry>:\
+<replaceable>name of the entry</replaceable>:\
   ha=<replaceable>sparc64-ethernet-address</replaceable>:ip=<replaceable>sparc64-ip-address</replaceable>:tc=.default</programlisting>
 
         <para>The Ethernet address must be the same as the one in the
@@ -287,7 +285,7 @@
            <literal>option host-name</literal> is resolvable, i.e. has
            a DNS entry or is associated with an address in
            <filename>/etc/hosts</filename>, the
-           <literal>fixed-address</literal> specification can be omitted.
+           <literal>fixed-address</literal> specification can be omitted.</para>
       </sect4>
     </sect3>
 
@@ -396,18 +394,22 @@
     <para>To create a disk label, the following procedure is the
       easiest:</para>
 
-    <para>First, use:
-<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>disklabel -w -r &lt;device&gt; auto</userinput></screen>
-      This will create a basic disk label. The third argument you need
+    <procedure>
+      <step>
+    <para>Run
+<command>disklabel -w -r <replaceable>device</replaceable> auto</command>
+      to create a basic disk label. The third argument you need
       specify here is just the name of the device, not the complete
       path to the device node (e.g. <devicename>ad0</devicename> for
       the first ATA disk).</para>
+      </step>
 
+      <step>
     <para>
-      Now, use:
-<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>disklabel -e &lt;device&gt; auto</userinput></screen>
-      This will open an editor in which you can edit the disk
-      label. The information presented to you should look like:
+      Use
+<command>disklabel -e <replaceable>device</replaceable></command>
+      to open an editor in which you can edit the disk
+      label. The information presented to you should look like:</para>
 
 <screen># /dev/ad6c:
 type: unknown
@@ -430,10 +432,9 @@
 
 8 partitions:
 #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
-  c: 80418240        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 79779)
-</screen>
+  c: 80418240        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 79779)</screen>
 
-      You can now add new partitions in the same format as the already
+      <para>You can now add new partitions in the same format as the already
       present line. Using <literal>*</literal> in the offset field makes the procedure
       easier; please refer to the &man.disklabel.8; manual page for more
       information.</para>
@@ -451,7 +452,9 @@
       this disk must have their respective partition entries in the
       old and new label match <emphasis>exactly</emphasis>, or they
       will be lost.</para></warning>
+      </step>
 
+      <step>
     <para>Use <command>disklabel -B</command> if you want to make the
       disk bootable for &os;/&arch;.</para>
 
@@ -467,6 +470,8 @@
       <ulink
       url="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/sparc64/loader-ufs.gz"></ulink>
     </para>
+      </step>
+    </procedure>
 
   </sect2>
    
@@ -491,19 +496,19 @@
 
     <para>To create file systems and to install the base system, boot
       from CDROM or via NFS and create a disk label as described in
-      <xref linkend="creating-disk-label">.
+      <xref linkend="creating-disk-label">.</para>
 
     <para>When booting the first time and you have not entered your
       root partition into <filename>/etc/fstab</filename> yet, you may
       need to specify your root partition on the mountroot prompt when
       booting (use a format like
-      <command>ufs:&lt;disk>&lt;partition></command>, i.e. leave the
+      <command>ufs:<replaceable>disk</replaceable><replaceable>partition</replaceable></command>, i.e. leave the
       slice specification out). If the kernel does automatically
       attempt to boot from another file system, press a key other than
       <keycap>Enter</keycap> on the <application>loader</application>
-      prompt:
+      prompt:</para>
 <screen>Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.</screen>
-      Then, boot the kernel using <command>boot -a -s</command>, which
+      <para>Then, boot the kernel using <command>boot -a -s</command>, which
       will cause the kernel to ask you for the root partition and
       then boot into single-user mode. Once the root file system has
       been entered into <filename>/etc/fstab</filename>, it should be

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Hello everybody,

Today I ran the usual "webupdate" script over an updated repo to build
the docs and the website.

But sometimes I looked over to the logs and when it arrived at
the gnome subdir, I saw that it was busy downloading an rdf file
from the Internet.

And sure enough, www/en/gnome/Makefile has this:


# $FreeBSD: www/en/gnome/Makefile,v 1.9 2002/02/11 16:54:52 sobomax Exp $

<...>

CLEANFILES=	index.html
CLEANFILES+=	newsflash.html
CLEANFILES+=	gnotices.rdf

GNOTICES_RDF_URL=	http://news.gnome.org/gnome-news/rdf

<...>

gnotices.rdf::
	/usr/bin/fetch -qo - ${GNOTICES_RDF_URL} | ${SED} 's|rdf:RDF|rdf| ; \
		s|xmlns.*[^>]||' > ${.TARGET}

In other words, it assumes an Internet connection unconditionally when
building the website. I think this is wrong since there is no warning
about this beforehand and I do not know for sure what happens when fetch
(working in "quiet" mode by virtue of the -q flag) cannot load the
specified file. I think that this should be made conditional so that people
to whom Internet usage costs are an issue might not be caught by
surprise.

-- 
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Szilveszter Adam wrote:

> Hello everybody,
> 
> Today I ran the usual "webupdate" script over an updated repo to build
> the docs and the website.
> 
> But sometimes I looked over to the logs and when it arrived at
> the gnome subdir, I saw that it was busy downloading an rdf file
> from the Internet.
> 
> And sure enough, www/en/gnome/Makefile has this:
> 
> 
> # $FreeBSD: www/en/gnome/Makefile,v 1.9 2002/02/11 16:54:52 sobomax Exp $
> 
> <...>
> 
> CLEANFILES=	index.html
> CLEANFILES+=	newsflash.html
> CLEANFILES+=	gnotices.rdf
> 
> GNOTICES_RDF_URL=	http://news.gnome.org/gnome-news/rdf
> 
> <...>
> 
> gnotices.rdf::
> 	/usr/bin/fetch -qo - ${GNOTICES_RDF_URL} | ${SED} 's|rdf:RDF|rdf| ; \
> 		s|xmlns.*[^>]||' > ${.TARGET}
> 
> In other words, it assumes an Internet connection unconditionally when
> building the website. I think this is wrong since there is no warning
> about this beforehand and I do not know for sure what happens when fetch
> (working in "quiet" mode by virtue of the -q flag) cannot load the
> specified file. I think that this should be made conditional so that people
> to whom Internet usage costs are an issue might not be caught by
> surprise.
> 
> 

I think that the rdf file should either be merged with the site or cut 
all togeather instead of just a warning...  Thats my opinion though...

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If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:

Good job...I can't believe I left off so many closing tags (admittedly 
I wasn't looking for them).  Two minor things...

> @@ -139,12 +139,10 @@
>  	on the keyboard, or send a
>          <command>BREAK</command> over the serial console (using for
>          example <command>~#</command> in &man.tip.1; or &man.cu.1;) to
> -        get to the PROM prompt.  It looks like
> +        get to the PROM prompt.  It looks like this:</para>
>  
> -        <screen>ok </screen>
> -        or
> -        <screen>ok {0} </screen>
> -        (on SMP systems).</para>
> +        <screen><prompt>ok     </prompt>      (systems with one CPU)
> +<prompt>ok {0} </prompt>      (SMP systems)</screen>

Can we get "(systems with one CPU)" and "(SMP systems)" outside the 
<screen></screen> element?  They're explanatory text, not literal stuff 
that shows up on the screen.  Not sure if there's an easy way to do 
this.

> @@ -242,7 +240,7 @@
>    :rp="<replaceable>tftp-server-ip-address</replaceable>:<replaceable>nfs-ro
> ot-directory</replaceable>":\
>    :sm=<replaceable>ip-netmask</replaceable>
>  
> -&lt;name of the entry>:\
> +<replaceable>name of the entry</replaceable>:\
>    ha=<replaceable>sparc64-ethernet-address</replaceable>:ip=<replaceable>spa
> rc64-ip-address</replaceable>:tc=.default</programlisting>

I went through a little bit of work to make sure all of the multi-word
replaceables had hyphens separating the words.  "name of entry" should
probably be "name-of-entry" to be consistent with this.

Other than these, I have no changes to suggest.

Thanks!

Bruce.



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On 14-Mar-2002 Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> 
> Good job...I can't believe I left off so many closing tags (admittedly 
> I wasn't looking for them).  Two minor things...
> 
>> @@ -139,12 +139,10 @@
>>      on the keyboard, or send a
>>          <command>BREAK</command> over the serial console (using for
>>          example <command>~#</command> in &man.tip.1; or &man.cu.1;) to
>> -        get to the PROM prompt.  It looks like
>> +        get to the PROM prompt.  It looks like this:</para>
>>  
>> -        <screen>ok </screen>
>> -        or
>> -        <screen>ok {0} </screen>
>> -        (on SMP systems).</para>
>> +        <screen><prompt>ok     </prompt>      (systems with one CPU)
>> +<prompt>ok {0} </prompt>      (SMP systems)</screen>
> 
> Can we get "(systems with one CPU)" and "(SMP systems)" outside the 
> <screen></screen> element?  They're explanatory text, not literal stuff 
> that shows up on the screen.  Not sure if there's an easy way to do 
> this.

Use a callout.  See the docbook docs on how to do callouts.  They are
specifically designed for these types of things.

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Hi Bruce,
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 01:34:08PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> Good job...I can't believe I left off so many closing tags (admittedly 
> I wasn't looking for them).  Two minor things...

looking for missing closing tags is a stupid task best left to a
program.  I have to admit that at least half of them are not only
missing closing tags, but also missing opening tags as well.
 
> Can we get "(systems with one CPU)" and "(SMP systems)" outside the 
> <screen></screen> element?  They're explanatory text, not literal stuff 
> that shows up on the screen.  Not sure if there's an easy way to do 
> this.

Sure, I can always use callouts - the bullet images cannot be
mistaken for 'real' screen output.
 
> I went through a little bit of work to make sure all of the multi-word
> replaceables had hyphens separating the words.  "name of entry" should
> probably be "name-of-entry" to be consistent with this.

No problem there.
 
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On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 04:41:35PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote:
> See the docbook docs on how to do callouts.  They are
> specifically designed for these types of things.

I can always take a peek at my own document about the things:
http://www.ruhr.de/home/nathan/FreeBSD/callout/english.html

(SCNR)

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The following reply was made to PR docs/35711; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@FreeBSD.org>
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 On 2002-03-14 19:21:42 +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
 > Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com> writes:
 > > Alot of people have commented about the gnats move, and DES even liked
 > > the idea...  Are we all clear on this?  Could this perhaps be done,
 > > and the pr closed?  Thanks
 > 
 > If I have the webmaster's approval, I can actually do most of it
 > myself (create the subdirectory in the www repository, create the
 > actual pages), but I still need someone to fix the redirection for
 > bugs.freebsd.org.
 
 If you are done with the subdir /bugs/, I will update
 the redirection for bugs.freebsd.org.
 
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On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 01:34:08PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> Other than these, I have no changes to suggest.

The third version of the patch is included.  As we are using callouts
now, we have to add to them to the Makefile and put a copy of the
critters into src/release/doc/en_EN.ISO8859-1/share/images/callout.

Yes, they are language-specific and our whole repository is littered
with copies of them.  The little images are like cockroaches in this
regards...

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On 14-Mar-2002 Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 01:34:08PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
>> Other than these, I have no changes to suggest.
> 
> The third version of the patch is included.  As we are using callouts
> now, we have to add to them to the Makefile and put a copy of the
> critters into src/release/doc/en_EN.ISO8859-1/share/images/callout.
> 
> Yes, they are language-specific and our whole repository is littered
> with copies of them.  The little images are like cockroaches in this
> regards...

You can use text callouts that are directly in the DocBook source IIRC.

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On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 11:26:05PM +0100, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:
> The third version of the patch is included.

Ok, let's try this again
a) write message
b) attach file
c) send
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Index: Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/sparc64/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 Makefile
--- Makefile	5 Mar 2002 23:22:08 -0000	1.1
+++ Makefile	14 Mar 2002 22:13:31 -0000
@@ -14,5 +14,9 @@
 SRCS+=	../common/install.sgml
 SRCS+=	../common/layout.sgml
 
+# Needed for the callouts
+IMAGES_LIB=     callouts/1.png
+IMAGES_LIB+=    callouts/2.png
+
 .include "${RELN_ROOT}/share/mk/doc.relnotes.mk"
 .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk"
Index: install.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/sparc64/install.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -r1.7 install.sgml
--- install.sgml	14 Mar 2002 01:40:47 -0000	1.7
+++ install.sgml	14 Mar 2002 22:19:54 -0000
@@ -56,7 +56,7 @@
       <para>This section describes the files you will need for a
 	&os;/&arch; installation.  The links in this document point to
 	the main &os; FTP server.  Please use a mirror site instead if
-	possible.
+	possible.</para>
 
       <important>
 	<para>The URLs in this section are provisional and subject to
@@ -139,12 +139,29 @@
 	on the keyboard, or send a
         <command>BREAK</command> over the serial console (using for
         example <command>~#</command> in &man.tip.1; or &man.cu.1;) to
-        get to the PROM prompt.  It looks like
+        get to the PROM prompt.  It looks like this:</para>
 
-        <screen>ok </screen>
-        or
-        <screen>ok {0} </screen>
-        (on SMP systems).</para>
+      <screenco>
+        <areaspec>
+	  <area id="prompt-single" coords="1 5">
+
+	  <area id="prompt-smp" coords="2 5">
+        </areaspec>
+        <screen><prompt>ok     </prompt>                            
+<prompt>ok {0} </prompt>                   </screen>
+
+        <calloutlist>
+	  <callout arearefs="prompt-single">
+	    <para>This is the prompt used on systems with just
+	      one CPU.</para>
+          </callout>
+
+	  <callout arearefs="prompt-smp">
+	    <para>This is the prompt used on SMP systems, the digit
+	      indicates the number of the active CPU.</para>
+	  </callout>
+        </calloutlist>
+      </screenco>
     </sect3>
   </sect2>
     
@@ -242,7 +259,7 @@
   :rp="<replaceable>tftp-server-ip-address</replaceable>:<replaceable>nfs-root-directory</replaceable>":\
   :sm=<replaceable>ip-netmask</replaceable>
 
-&lt;name of the entry>:\
+<replaceable>name-of-the-entry</replaceable>:\
   ha=<replaceable>sparc64-ethernet-address</replaceable>:ip=<replaceable>sparc64-ip-address</replaceable>:tc=.default</programlisting>
 
         <para>The Ethernet address must be the same as the one in the
@@ -287,7 +304,7 @@
            <literal>option host-name</literal> is resolvable, i.e. has
            a DNS entry or is associated with an address in
            <filename>/etc/hosts</filename>, the
-           <literal>fixed-address</literal> specification can be omitted.
+           <literal>fixed-address</literal> specification can be omitted.</para>
       </sect4>
     </sect3>
 
@@ -396,18 +413,22 @@
     <para>To create a disk label, the following procedure is the
       easiest:</para>
 
-    <para>First, use:
-<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>disklabel -w -r &lt;device&gt; auto</userinput></screen>
-      This will create a basic disk label. The third argument you need
+    <procedure>
+      <step>
+    <para>Run
+<command>disklabel -w -r <replaceable>device</replaceable> auto</command>
+      to create a basic disk label. The third argument you need
       specify here is just the name of the device, not the complete
       path to the device node (e.g. <devicename>ad0</devicename> for
       the first ATA disk).</para>
+      </step>
 
+      <step>
     <para>
-      Now, use:
-<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>disklabel -e &lt;device&gt; auto</userinput></screen>
-      This will open an editor in which you can edit the disk
-      label. The information presented to you should look like:
+      Use
+<command>disklabel -e <replaceable>device</replaceable></command>
+      to open an editor in which you can edit the disk
+      label. The information presented to you should look like:</para>
 
 <screen># /dev/ad6c:
 type: unknown
@@ -430,10 +451,9 @@
 
 8 partitions:
 #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
-  c: 80418240        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 79779)
-</screen>
+  c: 80418240        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 79779)</screen>
 
-      You can now add new partitions in the same format as the already
+      <para>You can now add new partitions in the same format as the already
       present line. Using <literal>*</literal> in the offset field makes the procedure
       easier; please refer to the &man.disklabel.8; manual page for more
       information.</para>
@@ -451,7 +471,9 @@
       this disk must have their respective partition entries in the
       old and new label match <emphasis>exactly</emphasis>, or they
       will be lost.</para></warning>
+      </step>
 
+      <step>
     <para>Use <command>disklabel -B</command> if you want to make the
       disk bootable for &os;/&arch;.</para>
 
@@ -467,6 +489,8 @@
       <ulink
       url="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/sparc64/loader-ufs.gz"></ulink>
     </para>
+      </step>
+    </procedure>
 
   </sect2>
    
@@ -491,19 +515,19 @@
 
     <para>To create file systems and to install the base system, boot
       from CDROM or via NFS and create a disk label as described in
-      <xref linkend="creating-disk-label">.
+      <xref linkend="creating-disk-label">.</para>
 
     <para>When booting the first time and you have not entered your
       root partition into <filename>/etc/fstab</filename> yet, you may
       need to specify your root partition on the mountroot prompt when
       booting (use a format like
-      <command>ufs:&lt;disk>&lt;partition></command>, i.e. leave the
+      <command>ufs:<replaceable>disk</replaceable><replaceable>partition</replaceable></command>, i.e. leave the
       slice specification out). If the kernel does automatically
       attempt to boot from another file system, press a key other than
       <keycap>Enter</keycap> on the <application>loader</application>
-      prompt:
+      prompt:</para>
 <screen>Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.</screen>
-      Then, boot the kernel using <command>boot -a -s</command>, which
+      <para>Then, boot the kernel using <command>boot -a -s</command>, which
       will cause the kernel to ask you for the root partition and
       then boot into single-user mode. Once the root file system has
       been entered into <filename>/etc/fstab</filename>, it should be

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The following reply was made to PR docs/35711; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
To: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@FreeBSD.org>
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>Number:         35903
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       physio(9) does not have an AUTHOR section
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Mar 14 15:00:03 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Tom Rhodes
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE i386
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>Description:
physio(9) lacks an authors section, I think that about
90% of the man pages have this section regardless...  Awhile ago Hiten
wrote/rewrote/fixed this man page, I think he should at least be listed
as an author or an authors section added with a (revised by) comment.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
man 9 physio and notice the lacking authors section
	
>Fix:
Add an authors section, or a note to give credit where credit is due...
Sorry, i'm a strong one on credit, and I was cleaning out my mailbox and noticed this hehe...

	


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[Removing freebsd-sparc@ from future follow-ups, to spare them the pain 
of discussing the finer points of the FreeBSD Documentation Project.]

If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote:

> Index: Makefile
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/sparc64/Mak
> efile,v
> retrieving revision 1.1
> diff -u -r1.1 Makefile
> --- Makefile	5 Mar 2002 23:22:08 -0000	1.1
> +++ Makefile	14 Mar 2002 22:13:31 -0000
> @@ -14,5 +14,9 @@
>  SRCS+=	../common/install.sgml
>  SRCS+=	../common/layout.sgml
>  
> +# Needed for the callouts
> +IMAGES_LIB=     callouts/1.png
> +IMAGES_LIB+=    callouts/2.png

I'm a little concerned about adding more files to the rendered HTML
output.  So far, the release documentation files we put on the CDROMs or
other install media are almost entirely self-contained (with the
exception of the CSS stylesheet).  The way we stage the files doesn't
scale well to handling lots of images (it's not the usual FDP "make
install" because we need to munge the filenames as they get copied out
to the staging areas).  Yeah, I know it's only two PNG files, but, well,
slippery slopes, and all that.  Maybe we could use your stylesheet hack 
to switch to text callouts for the release documentation only.

If there is no easy way around this, I will drop my original objection
to the extra text within the <screen></screen> element.

Bruce.

PS.  Nice article on callouts BTW.  What about dropping this into the
tree?




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[I've taken a hint from Bruce and removed freebsd-sparc]
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 05:43:30PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote:
> You can use text callouts that are directly in the DocBook source IIRC.

You can put <co> elements directly into the <screen> or <programlisting>
elements.  But they will still be using the graphics.  The only way to
use callouts without the critters is to switch to text mode callouts.
This cannot done by changing the SGML source, this needs a modification
to the stylesheets.  Which reminds me that I have to update my article
as I have learned how to disable the images without hacking the system
files...

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The following reply was made to PR docs/35903; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dima Dorfman <dima@trit.org>
To: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/35903: physio(9) does not have an AUTHOR section 
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 01:33:09 +0000

 Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com> wrote:
 > >Description:
 > physio(9) lacks an authors section, I think that about
 > 90% of the man pages have this section regardless...  Awhile ago Hiten
 > wrote/rewrote/fixed this man page, I think he should at least be listed
 > as an author or an authors section added with a (revised by) comment.
 
 The normal way to credit this kind of submission is to list the
 submitter as such in the commit log.  For some reason (probably
 forgetfulness), joe didn't do this.  This can be rectified by a forced
 commit log if people think it's a big deal, but I think it's somewhat
 too late for that.  I also don't think it's appropriate to add every
 submitter to the AUTHORS section (please don't take this to mean that
 I don't appreciate the contributions), esp. when the original author
 didn't add himself, but I won't fight over this issue.

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Hi Bruce,
> Maybe we could use your stylesheet hack 
> to switch to text callouts for the release documentation only.

this is no problem as I found the solution in the meantime (the
article was written for DocBook 3.1):

RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/release.dsl,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -r1.4 release.dsl
--- release.dsl 11 Dec 2001 23:55:41 -0000      1.4
+++ release.dsl 15 Mar 2002 01:07:25 -0000
@@ -11,6 +11,10 @@
     <style-specification-body>
  
       <![ %output.html; [ 
+        (define %callout-graphics%
+          ;; Use graphics in callouts?
+          #f)
+
        (define ($email-footer$)
           (make sequence
            (make element gi: "p"

It is also be possible to put this statement into
src/release/doc/share/sgml/release.dsl:

RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/doc/share/sgml/release.dsl,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -r1.4 release.dsl
--- release.dsl 7 Jan 2002 03:51:41 -0000       1.4
+++ release.dsl 15 Mar 2002 01:15:47 -0000
@@ -89,6 +89,11 @@
       (define %footnote-ulinks% #t)
     ]]>
 
+    <![ %output.html; [
+      (define %callout-graphics%
+        ;; Use graphics in callouts?
+        #f)
+    ]]>
     </style-specification-body>
   </style-specification>

I'd prefer to put it into both files, just to make sure that these
!"§$% graphics don't litter the repo and websitre tree.

> If there is no easy way around this, I will drop my original objection
> to the extra text within the <screen></screen> element.

No need - it is worth doing, so it is worth doing it right.

> PS.  Nice article on callouts BTW.  What about dropping this into the
> tree?

The core of this article was originally written a long, long time
ago to be included in the FDP.  Back then, the callouts section of
the FDP consisted of nothing more than a 'this must be documented'
remark.

So I wrote this thing and sent it to Nik, saying 'Hey, here is the
missing callout chapter for the FDP.'

In reaction, Nik added his own version of the callout chapter (about
a week later, IIRC).

Until today, there hasn't been a single reply from him to my original
mail which led me to believe that my contribution was
a) not suitable for the project
b) not worth commenting

Having you ask for its inclusion now... Well, it proves that the
item #2 on the big list of rules for committers is there for a
reason.

Especially because this article uses a modified build environment
that
a) is able to handle more than one sgml file in one directory
b) seperates the jade processing from the tidy procesing

Which is also something I offered to the project and which was also
ignored.  Especially point a) would have been a GREAT benefit as
it would have stopped the <foo>/chapter.sgml <foo2>/chapter.sgml
thing we have now.  Which is major pain in the posterior if you
are working on several documents at once:

"Ok, I have three editors with chapter.sgml.  Which one is the one
I want?".

Point b) is no longer intresting because the default Makefiles used
by the FDP are finally making of use of make's main reason for
existance:  If the created file is newer than the file it was created
from, you do not have to touch it.  Back then, make would always
build everyting...

Ah, the irony of it all...

/s/Udo
-- 
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Not that an arguement needs started, or a dispute needs to arise, but
may I throw the following idea on the table for everyones evauluation:

No author listed, who would be contacted if this manual document became
out of date, who would fix it?  Who already knows about it?

Could we just dub Hiten, as the last person who worked with it, the
current author and maintainer of this document?  It would be good,
in my opinion of course, for users to have an idea of who to contact
if in fact this document needs changing.

Many times we get prs saying ``this needs changed'' and yet it either
sits for many days/weeks until someone has the time to investigate the
problem, or knowledge to apply a quick fix?

In closing, I guess that this is just a request to assign Hiten as the
author of this document, and maybe even list an (unknown origin) under
the authors section.

Is this idea feasable?

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The following reply was made to PR docs/35903; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: darklogik <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: dima@trit.org
Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: docs/35903: physio(9) does not have an AUTHOR section 
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 00:30:06 +0008 (EST)

 Not that an arguement needs started, or a dispute needs to arise, but
 may I throw the following idea on the table for everyones evauluation:
 
 No author listed, who would be contacted if this manual document became
 out of date, who would fix it?  Who already knows about it?
 
 Could we just dub Hiten, as the last person who worked with it, the
 current author and maintainer of this document?  It would be good,
 in my opinion of course, for users to have an idea of who to contact
 if in fact this document needs changing.
 
 Many times we get prs saying ``this needs changed'' and yet it either
 sits for many days/weeks until someone has the time to investigate the
 problem, or knowledge to apply a quick fix?
 
 In closing, I guess that this is just a request to assign Hiten as the
 author of this document, and maybe even list an (unknown origin) under
 the authors section.
 
 Is this idea feasable?
 
 --
 Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes
 
 

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On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Tom Rhodes wrote:

> I think that the rdf file should either be merged with the site or cut
> all togeather instead of just a warning...  Thats my opinion though...
>

The rdf file contains up to date news, merging it with the website would
be a painstaking manual job over the currently implemented automatic
process.

Does the www build break because it is unable to download the file?  If
it doesn't, I don't see why this should be a problem.  Although, a note
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Subject: natd does not work
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I have been setting up FreeBSD Box as a gateway to the
internet. my lan card is intel (fxp0),activating ppp
with Kppp from KDE.I have turned on the IPFIREWALL and
IPDIVERT within the kernel.Conection between
server(BSD) and the other client is OK (Using ping
command).

But the natd doesn't work(PC using unregistered ip
can't connect to the internet)

what should I do ?

here is the content of
my configuration files:

content of rc.firewall:
     /sbin/ipfw -f flush
     /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any   
via fxp0
    /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any


content of  rc.conf :
hostname="server.silicom.net"
sendmail_enable="NO"

moused_port="/dev/cuaa0"
moused_enable="YES"

network_interfaces="fxp0  lo0 "
ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
"
ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1"

natd_enable="YES"
interface_out="fxp0"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_logging="YES"
natd_interface="fxp0"
type="OPEN"
gateway_enable="YES"

THANK FOR REPLY


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The following reply was made to PR docs/35723; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Josh Paetzel <friar_josh@webwarrior.net>
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Subject: Re: Docs/35723 le(4) page doesn't warn about likely system crashes.
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:05:11 +0000

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 Here's a patch to the man page that puts in a BUGS section, I left it 
 in the traditional place, though.
 
 
 
 *** le.4.old    Fri Mar 15 10:57:26 2002
 --- le.4        Fri Mar 15 10:57:42 2002
 ***************
 *** 93,95 ****
 --- 93,99 ----
   .An Matt Thomas .
   This manual page was written by
   .An David E. O'Brien .
 + .Sh BUGS
 + This driver has been causing kernel panics since 4.0-RELEASE, and 
 appears to be no
 + longer actively maintained.  PR misc/18641 describes the known 
 issues that have been
 + submitted.
 
 Josh
 
 
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 *** le.4.old	Fri Mar 15 10:57:26 2002
 --- le.4	Fri Mar 15 10:57:42 2002
 ***************
 *** 93,95 ****
 --- 93,99 ----
   .An Matt Thomas .
   This manual page was written by
   .An David E. O'Brien .
 + .Sh BUGS
 + This driver has been causing kernel panics since 4.0-RELEASE, and appears to be no
 + longer actively maintained.  PR misc/18641 describes the known issues that have been
 + submitted.
 
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>Number:         35932
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Insufficient description of ``log_in_vain'' sysctl in tcp(4)
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 13:20:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Alex Semenyaka
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
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>Environment:
System: FreeBSD snark.ratmir.ru 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #6: Fri Mar 15 01:16:18 MSK 2002 root@snark.ratmir.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SNARK i386

>Description:

There is several possible values for the MIB net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain, as it
is obvious from the /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c. The value of '1' forces
to log only SYN-packets, value of '2' means log all, and all other values
turn logging off. Unfortunatelly there is no description of these values in 
tcp(4) or rc.conf(5) while it might be useful for system administrators.

>How-To-Repeat:

man 4 tcp

>Fix:

--- tcp.4	Sat Mar 16 00:01:35 2002
+++ tcp.4.new	Sat Mar 16 00:05:17 2002
@@ -215,7 +215,9 @@
 Maximum TCP receive window.
 .It tcp.log_in_vain
 Log any connection attempts to ports where there is not a socket
-accepting connections.
+accepting connections. If set to '1' logs TCP-packets with SYN
+flag set, set to '2' forces to log any. All other values is 
+equivalent to '0' (turns logging off).
 .It tcp.slowstart_flightsize
 The number of packets allowed to be in-flight during the
 .Tn TCP

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>Number:         35939
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       ipfw(8) needs explicit statement about non-IP packets
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 18:10:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Gary W. Swearingen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
none
>Environment:
n/a
================
>Description:

It would be helpful if ipfw explicitly stated the handling of non-IP
packets instead of just implying it by saying that ipfw(8) scans for
incoming and outgoing IP packets.  The implication is easily missed.

Apparently, this has been a source of confusion, especially given the
changing nature of the handling of non-IP packets.
================
>How-To-Repeat:
n/a
================
>Fix:

In the "Description" section, in the second paragraph, after the first
sentence, insert this sentence:

    (Non-IP packets, e.g., ARP or IPX, are not seen by ipfw(8) at all
    and so may be considered to be always passed by this firewall.)

From my brief conversation with Joost Bekkers I understand that this
has not always been the behavior and will not be when he's done, but
that's the way it is now, as confirmed by the bridge(8) page.
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>Number:         35940
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       red(1) manual doesn't explain red(1).
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
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>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 18:10:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Gary W. Swearingen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
none
>Environment:
n/a
================
>Description:

The red(1) manual doesn't mention the command outside the "Name" section.
================
>How-To-Repeat:
n/a
================
>Fix:

At the end of the "Synopsis" section, add:

    'red' is the same as 'ed' except that it prohibits the use of
    certain kinds of 'file' argument values, including those that
    would cause 'ed' to execute a shell command and those that
    contain a '/'.  Consider it to be "restricted ed".

That should be improved, but I don't understand the relevant code,
mostly at the bottom of "/usr/src/bin/ed/main.c".
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>Number:         35941
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       cd(4) manual doesn't mention "target" used in synopsis.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 18:20:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Gary W. Swearingen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
none
>Environment:
n/a
================
>Description:

The cd(4) manual refers to "target" in the synopsis, without giving a
clue as to what that is or how the target number should be chosen.

It's probably common knowledge to SCSI experts, but I've been using it
occasionally for a long time and didn't know the term.  Some will
eventually figure it out by reading the "LUN-based" section or a certain
part of the scsi(4) manual, but it shouldn't be that hard.
================
>How-To-Repeat:
n/a
================
>Fix:

Add a new second paragraph to the "Description":

    The "target" string is followed by the device's standard SCSI device
    ID number.  The "unit" string is followed by the logical unit number
    of one of the SCSI device's sub-devices (if any) or zero.
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>Number:         35942
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       at(1) manual doesn't describe at.allow and at.deny formats.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
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>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 18:20:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Gary W. Swearingen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
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>Environment:
n/a
================
>Description:

The at(1) manual doesn't describe the format of the at.allow and at.deny
files (in "/var/at/").

================
>How-To-Repeat:
n/a
================
>Fix:

Determine the allowed formats and add descriptions to the manual.

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>Number:         35943
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/at/
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 18:20:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Gary W. Swearingen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
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>Environment:
n/a
================
>Description:

The configuration files for at(1), at.allow and at.deny, are currently
looked for in /var/at/ instead of in /etc/ like almost all other system
configuration files.

Each file should first be looked for first in /etc/ (and then in /var/at/
for backward compatibility).  The manual should document this behavior.

This change makes the OS configuration scheme more consistent.  Also, I
suppose that many SAs prefer to keep these files in /etc/ so that the
configuration files are easier to find and back up and this change would
save them the effort of maintaining a link from /var/at/ to /etc/.
================
>How-To-Repeat:
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>Fix:
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>Number:         35944
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       cd(9) manual refers to non-existent scsiconf(9) manual
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 18:30:00 PST 2002
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>Originator:     Gary W. Swearingen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
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>Description:

The cd(9) manual refers to a non-existent scsiconf(9) manual in:

    See scsiconf(9) for more information on how to add quirk entries.

I searched manuals for "quirk" and found no relevant manual.
================
>How-To-Repeat:
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================
>Fix:

Remove the sentence or write a scsiconf(9) manual?
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Try freebsd-questions@freebsd.org for help, this is a documentation
discussion list.

I suggest reading the ppp(8) man page (man ppp).  You'll have to look at
the -nat option, you cannot use natd over a PPP connection.

- chern

On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, agusri dodi wrote:

> I have been setting up FreeBSD Box as a gateway to the
> internet. my lan card is intel (fxp0),activating ppp
> with Kppp from KDE.I have turned on the IPFIREWALL and
> IPDIVERT within the kernel.Conection between
> server(BSD) and the other client is OK (Using ping
> command).
>
> But the natd doesn't work(PC using unregistered ip
> can't connect to the internet)
>
> what should I do ?
>
> here is the content of
> my configuration files:
>
> content of rc.firewall:
>      /sbin/ipfw -f flush
>      /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any
> via fxp0
>     /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any
>
>
> content of  rc.conf :
> hostname="server.silicom.net"
> sendmail_enable="NO"
>
> moused_port="/dev/cuaa0"
> moused_enable="YES"
>
> network_interfaces="fxp0  lo0 "
> ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
> "
> ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1"
>
> natd_enable="YES"
> interface_out="fxp0"
> firewall_enable="YES"
> firewall_logging="YES"
> natd_interface="fxp0"
> type="OPEN"
> gateway_enable="YES"
>
> THANK FOR REPLY
>
>
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>Number:         35948
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       disklabel(8) manual uses archaic "pack" and "packid".
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 19:10:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Gary W. Swearingen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
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>Environment:
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================
>Description:

The disklabel(8) manual uses the archaic terms "pack" and "packid".
The manual should be rewritten so that the term is not needed or at
least explained.
================
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>Number:         35947
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       disklabel(8) manual missing "2" in example, etc.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 19:10:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Gary W. Swearingen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
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>Environment:
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================
>Description:

The disklabel(8) manual has problems.  See below for some easy ones.

================
>How-To-Repeat:
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>Fix:

-- Change "-s newboot " to "-s newboot2 " in an example.

-- Change "irregardless" to "regardless" (or "irrespective").

-- Change "is resident" to "resides" or "is located" or just "is".

-- Maybe change "disklabel [-NW] disk" in "Synopsis" to 
    "disklabel { -N | -W }",  but I'm not sure.  Not important.
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>Number:         35949
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] rtprio(1) man page uses incorrect english
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 19:40:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Hiten Pandya
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD hpdi.ath.cx 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #3: Wed Mar 13 23:44:48 GMT 2002 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx:/c1/obj/data/dev/src/sys/CURRENT5 i386

>Description:

	The rtprio(1) uses incorrect english in the BUGS section.  The
	provided patch will fix that, and also _boldface_ the "root"
	user in the man page (mdoc(1) change).  Also, instead of:

		"system calls are currently never preempted"
	
	It will substitute it with:

		"system calls are currently not preempted"
	
	Thanks,
	
	  -- Hiten Pandya
	  -- <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
	  
>How-To-Repeat:
	visit the rtprio(1) manual page.	
>Fix:

	The following patch should be applied to src/usr.sbin/rtprio/rtprio.1
	
--- rtprio.1.old	Sat Mar 16 02:22:41 2002
+++ rtprio.1	Sat Mar 16 03:03:58 2002
@@ -108,7 +108,9 @@
 .Ar Pid
 of 0 means "the current process".
 .Pp
-Only root is allowed to set realtime or idle priority for a process.
+Only 
+.Sy root 
+is allowed to set realtime or idle priority for a process.
 .Sh DIAGNOSTICS
 If
 .Nm
@@ -184,16 +186,16 @@
 (swapper) (see
 .Xr ps 1 ) .
 .Pp
-There is in
-.Fx
-no way to ensure that a process page is present in memory therefore
+There is no way in
+.Fx ,
+to ensure that a process page is present in memory therefore
 the process may be stopped for pagein (see
 .Xr mprotect 2 ,
 .Xr madvise 2 ) .
 .Pp
 Under
-.Fx
-system calls are currently never preempted, therefore non-realtime
+.Fx ,
+system calls are currently not preempted, therefore non-realtime
 processes can starve realtime processes, or idletime processes can
 starve normal priority processes.
 .Sh AUTHORS
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>Number:         35951
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       disklabel(8) manual confuses partitions and slices, etc.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
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>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 19:50:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Gary W. Swearingen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
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>Environment:
n/a
================
>Description:

The "Raw or in-core label" section of the disklabel(8) manual uses
"partition" to refer to a slice (in the first sentence). Some other
places use "partition" in the usual FreeBSD meaning.

The manual also confusingly uses the term "DOS partition" and the
idiosyncratic term "DOS slice".

The term "Microsoft partition table" would be better as "MBR partition
table".

A related problem, which maybe should have it's own PR, is that several
mentions of "disk" or "drive" should have "or slice" added.

It would probably also be better to consistently use "disk" instead of
often using "drive" or "disk drive" as it does. (It's not drivelabel(8).)
================
>How-To-Repeat:
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================
>Fix:

Go through the manual and ensure that each use of "partition", "slice",
and their variants (eg, "DOS partitioning") is unambiguous and correct.

The terms used by the manual could be explained, but I think it is
better to assume that readers have learned in the Handbook what these
two terms mean in FreeBSD documentation and use them religiously.  Don't
use "DOS" as part of our terminology except in defining our terminology.

(Actually, I'd prefer that "slice" be replaced with "primary partition"
and "partition" with "secondary partition" throughout the documentation,
but I don't expect that will be done.)
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>Number:         35953
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wrong about host name
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
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>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
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>Environment:
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================
>Description:

Except for the first two words, this paragraph of the hosts.equive(5) manual

    Host names are specified in the conventional ''.'' (dot) notation using
    the inet_addr(3) routine from the Internet address manipulation library,
    inet(3).  Host names may contain any printable character other than a
    field delimiter, newline, or comment character.

is the same as the paragraph of the hosts(5) manual which starts
"Network addresses".  That is confusing, or wrong.

As far as I have determined from looking at the referenced inet_addr(3)
manual and inet_addr.c, the first sentence of hosts.equiv(5)'s paragraph
is erroneous.
================
>How-To-Repeat:
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================
>Fix:

Replace the first sentence with "Host names are specified in the
conventional Internet DNS dotted-domains notation."

Maybe it also accepts numeric IP addresses, but I saw no evidence of it.
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>Number:         35955
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       pw(8) manual doesn't explain the "-F" option.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
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================
>Description:

The pw(8) manual doesn't explain the "-F" option.
================
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>Number:         35956
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       rlogin(1) manual has "supporting" for "support".
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
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>Description:

rlogin(1) manual has "supporting" for "support".

================
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>Fix:

Under "Description", in the second paragraph's "does not supporting
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>Number:         35967
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       rc.conf(5) manual missing "dumpdir" and "savecore_flags", etc.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
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>Arrival-Date:   Fri Mar 15 22:10:01 PST 2002
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Gary W. Swearingen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
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>Environment:
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================
>Description:

The rc.conf(5) manual is missing "dumpdir" and "savecore_flags" entries
and this "dumpdev" entry needs updating:

  (str) If not set to ''NO'' then point kernel crash-dumps at the swap
  device specified as value.  When the system restarts, a crash-dump
  found on the specified device will typically be stored in the
  /var/crash directory by the savecore(8) program.

================
>How-To-Repeat:
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================
>Fix:

dumpdev

    (str) If not set to ''NO'' then dumpon(8) is used to cause kernel
    crash dumps to be saved in the (usually swap) device specified as
    _value_.  When the system restarts, a crash dump found on the
    specified device will be stored by the savecore(8) program using
    "savecore_flags" in the directory specified by the "dumpdir" value.
    Not effective unless crash occurs after booting with this set.
    See crash(8) manual for related info.

dumpdir

    (str) Specifies the directory where a crash dump will be saved by
    savecore(8) during a post-crash-dump OS boot (if the directory
    exists). See "dumpdev".

savecore_flags

    (str) The options (with leading "-") for savecore(8) to use during
    post-crash-dump OS boot. See "dumpdev".
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The following reply was made to PR docs/35903; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.org>
To: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/35903: physio(9) does not have an AUTHOR section
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 23:49:08 -0800

 On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:01:00PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
 > physio(9) lacks an authors section, I think that about
 > 90% of the man pages have this section regardless...  Awhile ago Hiten
 > wrote/rewrote/fixed this man page, I think he should at least be listed
 > as an author or an authors section added with a (revised by) comment.
 
   The author section lists people who wrote the software, or wrote the
 man page.  Adding a sentence or two (or even a paragraph or two) is
 not the same as writing the document.  Individual contributors are
 credited in commit messages.  Hiten has be credited many times lately
 for his numerous contributions.
 
     - Murray

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Hello Chern,

On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 06:45:15PM -0800, Chern Lee wrote:
> Try freebsd-questions@freebsd.org for help, this is a documentation
> discussion list.
> 
> I suggest reading the ppp(8) man page (man ppp).  You'll have to look at
> the -nat option, you cannot use natd over a PPP connection.

Although this poster really should have tried -questions first, just for
the sake of completeness I would like to note that you *can* use natd
with ppp, that's what I'm doing right now:-) But it needs to be set up
properly. Eg if you receive your address via DHCP, then natd needs to
know via the "-dynamic" flag. But we do not know if this was the case
with this poster. So yes, -questions and the documentation should he
check:-)

-- 
Regards:

Szilveszter ADAM
Szombathely Hungary

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  This request is over 2 months old, but I think it's too good of an
idea to just let die out in the archives.

  Surely someone must have the time and motivation to tackle this?
XML security advisories would have a number of advantages, some of
which are described below.  This isn't much more than an hour or two
of work.  Can someone take a look at this to provide the security
officers with a simple XSLT stylesheet and markup one of the recent
security advisories in a well-formed XML file.

	 - Murray

On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:52:55PM -0600, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I wonder if there is a doc person here who would care to work on tools
> for producing security advisories?  The initial targets would be:
> 
>   = XML DTD for security advisories
>   = Tools for converting XML source to the text format currently used
> 
> Once we've gotten that far, we could consider:
> 
>   = Producing other formats
>   = Searching advisories by releases, affected components, and so on
>   = Notifications based on affected component, release, and so on
> 
> Please drop me a line if you would be interested in working on such.
> Thanks much!
> -- 
> Jacques A. Vidrine <n@nectar.cc>                     http://www.nectar.cc/
> NTT/Verio SME           .      FreeBSD UNIX      .        Heimdal Kerberos
> jvidrine@verio.net      .   nectar@FreeBSD.org   .           nectar@kth.se
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Hi,

Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote
  in <20020316131007.GX17499@freebsdmall.com>:

murray>   This request is over 2 months old, but I think it's too good of an
murray> idea to just let die out in the archives.
murray> 
murray>   Surely someone must have the time and motivation to tackle this?

 Hmm..  I am using the attatched XML DTD and XSLT stylesheet
 for Japanese translation of SAs.  This is based on DocBook XML
 and uses docbook-xsl.

 If this is suitable for the purpose, could someone review this?
 I am not familiar with XML+XSLT processing very much.

--
| Hiroki Sato  <hrs@FreeBSD.org>
|              <hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp>

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>Number:         35987
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       socket(2) man page minor correction
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"The currently understood formats are:
PF_LOCAL  Host-internal protocols, formerly called PF_UNIX,
PF_UNIX   Host-internal protocols, depreciated, use PF_LOCAL,"

Shouldn't we use *deprecated* instead of *depreciated*?
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/deprecated.html

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As some of you will know, I've been promising for a while now to start addi=
ng
indexterm elements to the FAQ.

Since this is major job, I'd like to ask you all if the attached patch sucks
or not (and whether it blows too).

What I'm thinking, rightly or wrongly is that this will produce an index li=
ke
books have, but I don't know if that's true or not.
If it is, then this patch will produce stuff like :

FreeBSD,
    name
    overview
    project goals

license,
    BSD

version,
    current
    latest
    release frequency
    stable


So what I'm asking is whether these are the kind of terms I should be using
within the indexterm elements, or whether I should be looser or stricter wi=
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what I put in there.

Thanks,

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--- book.sgml.old	Sat Mar 16 21:53:07 2002
+++ book.sgml	Sat Mar 16 22:05:47 2002
@@ -76,6 +76,10 @@
     <qandaset>
       <qandaentry>
         <question id=3D"what-is-FreeBSD">
+	  <indexterm>
+	    <primary>FreeBSD</primary>
+	    <secondary>overview</secondary>
+	  </indexterm>
           <para>What is FreeBSD?</para>
         </question>
=20
@@ -107,6 +111,10 @@
=20
       <qandaentry>
         <question id=3D"FreeBSD-goals">
+	  <indexterm>
+	    <primary>FreeBSD</primary>
+	    <secondary>project goals</secondary>
+	  </indexterm>
           <para>What is the goal of the FreeBSD Project?</para>
         </question>
=20
@@ -141,6 +149,10 @@
=20
       <qandaentry>
         <question id=3D"bsd-license-restrictions">
+	  <indexterm>
+	    <primary>license</primary>
+	    <secondary>BSD</secondary>
+	  </indexterm>
           <para>Does the FreeBSD license have any restrictions?</para>
         </question>
=20
@@ -167,6 +179,10 @@
=20
       <qandaentry>
         <question id=3D"replace-current-OS">
+	  <indexterm>
+	    <primary>operating system</primary>
+	    <secondary>replacing</secondary>
+	  </indexterm>
           <para>Can FreeBSD replace my current operating system?</para>
         </question>
=20
@@ -210,6 +226,10 @@
=20
       <qandaentry>
         <question id=3D"why-called-FreeBSD">
+	  <indexterm>
+	    <primary>FreeBSD</primary>
+	    <secondary>name</secondary?
+	  </indexterm>
           <para>Why is it called FreeBSD?</para>
         </question>
=20
@@ -246,6 +266,10 @@
=20
       <qandaentry>
         <question id=3D"latest-version">
+	  <indexterm>
+	    <primary>version</primary>
+	    <secondary>latest</secondary>
+	  </indexterm>
           <para>What is the latest version of FreeBSD?</para>
         </question>
=20
@@ -276,6 +300,10 @@
=20
       <qandaentry>
         <question id=3D"current">
+	  <indexterm>
+	    <primary>version</primary>
+	    <secondary>current</secondary>
+	  </indexterm>
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=20
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+	  <indexterm>
+	    <primary>version</primary>
+	    <secondary>stable</secondary>
+	  </indexterm>
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         </question>
=20
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+	    <primary>version</primary>
+	    <secondary>release frequency</secondary>
+	  <indexterm>
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From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>
To: "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net>
Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/35942: at(1) manual doesn't describe at.allow and at.deny formats.
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 18:41:05 +0200

 On 2002-03-15 18:15, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
 >
 > The at(1) manual doesn't describe the format of the at.allow and at.deny
 > files (in "/var/at/").
 >
 > >Fix:
 >
 > Determine the allowed formats and add descriptions to the manual.
 
 Well, it sort of does.  Quoting the manpage.
 
      If the file /var/at/at.allow exists, only usernames
      mentioned in it are allowed to use at.
 
 This needs to be made more descriptive though.
 What do you think of the following?
 
 Index: at.man
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/at/at.man,v
 retrieving revision 1.27
 diff -4 -u -r1.27 at.man
 --- at.man	15 Mar 2002 15:26:57 -0000	1.27
 +++ at.man	16 Mar 2002 16:38:17 -0000
 @@ -173,16 +173,22 @@
  If the file
  .Pa _PERM_PATH/at.allow
  exists, only usernames mentioned in it are allowed to use
  .Nm .
 +Add the names of the users that should be allowed to run
 +.Nm
 +to this file, one per line.
  .Pp
  If
  .Pa _PERM_PATH/at.allow
  does not exist,
  .Pa _PERM_PATH/at.deny
  is checked, every username not mentioned in it is then allowed
  to use
  .Nm Ns .
 +Add the names of the users that should not be allowed to run
 +.Nm
 +to this file, one per line.
  .Pp
  If neither exists, only the superuser is allowed use of
  .Nm Ns .
  This is the default configuration.
 
 Giorgos Keramidas                       FreeBSD Documentation Project
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From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>
To: "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net>
Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/35940: red(1) manual doesn't explain red(1).
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 18:28:37 +0200

 On 2002-03-15 18:10, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
 > 
 > 'red' is the same as 'ed' except that it prohibits the use of
 > certain kinds of 'file' argument values, including those that
 > would cause 'ed' to execute a shell command and those that
 > contain a '/'.  Consider it to be "restricted ed".
 
 How does this look?  Mind you, the text was already there.
 I just uncommented it and made minor markup changes.
 
     Index: ed.1
     ===================================================================
     RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/bin/ed/ed.1,v
     retrieving revision 1.29
     diff -2 -u -r1.29 ed.1
     --- ed.1        10 Aug 2001 17:35:07 -0000      1.29
     +++ ed.1        16 Mar 2002 16:25:22 -0000
     @@ -13,6 +13,4 @@
      .Op Fl p Ar string
      .Op Ar file
     -.\" .LP
     -.\" red [-] [-sx] [-p \fIstring\fR] [\fIfile\fR]
      .Sh DESCRIPTION
      .Nm Ed
     @@ -20,9 +18,11 @@
      It is used to create, display, modify and otherwise manipulate text
      files.
     -.\" .B red
     -.\" is a restricted
     -.\" .BR ed :
     -.\" it can only edit files in the current
     -.\" directory and cannot execute shell commands.
     +.Pp
     +If invoked as
     +.Nm red ,
     +then
     +.Nm
     +can only edit files in the current directory
     +and cannot execute shell commands.
      .Pp
      If invoked with a
 
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From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
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Subject: Re: docs/35943: at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/at/
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 On 2002-03-15 18:15, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
 >
 > The configuration files for at(1), at.allow and at.deny, are currently
 > looked for in /var/at/ instead of in /etc/ like almost all other system
 > configuration files.
 
 There are other programs that use /var too.  Cron(8) for instance, saves
 the crontabs in /var/cron/tabs.  Why is it so bad that at(1) saves files in
 /var too?
 
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Synopsis: rlogin(1) manual has "supporting" for "support".

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Synopsis: rlogin(1) manual has "supporting" for "support".

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