From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 15 22:18:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D43016A41F for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:18:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sjmorgan@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A913943D46 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:18:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sjmorgan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i5so1039331wra for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:18:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=G2Ub+J2pZInGOemKXbUjhBFufcdHQzboZUJjuxo3Sug5R2F89UqR+560UNEbE4Chykt0URtXJCAjVQ0NjlR3vt1HMb6z9sxJmqahbMmF1NxkU6ErECvGwNIDyf1vAhQ5tgbwPJgY8xh2pdlUGAybcVrXwciFrGA2eMn0llvj2rM= Received: by 10.54.151.4 with SMTP id y4mr3905132wrd; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:18:19 +0100 From: Simon Morgan To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, misc@openbsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: BSD PPPoA Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:18:22 -0000 Hi, I have a PPPoA ADSL connection and would like to use FreeBSD or OpenBSD as a gateway/server and am looking for compatible hardware that would facilitate this. I'm specifically looking to avoid combination modem + routers and NAT and port forwarding in particular. This will be a pure routed IP setup. Obviously stability is very important (So far I've been using a SpeedTouch 330 with Linux which hasn't been fun). Does anyone have any suggestions? Any advice is welcome. Thanks. Simon From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 16 08:06:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA7E16A41F for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:06:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFCD43D45 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:06:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A4112.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.65.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7G86Gxr060150; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:06:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7G86Ces001138; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:06:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost.jhs.private [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7G86RCB002927; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:06:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200508160806.j7G86RCB002927@fire.jhs.private> To: Simon Morgan From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com Munich Unix, BSD, Internet Consultancy User-agent: EXMH http://beedub.com/exmh/ on FreeBSD http://freebsd.org X-URL: http://berklix.com/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:18:19 BST." Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:06:27 +0200 Sender: jhs@flat.berklix.net Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD PPPoA Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:06:21 -0000 Simon Morgan wrote: > Hi, > > I have a PPPoA ADSL connection and would like to use FreeBSD or OpenBSD > as a gateway/server and am looking for compatible hardware that would > facilitate this. I'm specifically looking to avoid combination modem > + routers and NAT and port forwarding in particular. This will be > a pure routed IP setup. Obviously stability is very important (So > far I've been using a SpeedTouch 330 with Linux which hasn't been > fun). > Does anyone have any suggestions? Any advice is welcome. I use FreeBSD-4.10, but ideally that needs an MTU re assembly daemon /usr/ports/net/tcpmssd to surmount the 1492 below tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1492 else some near sites have trouble (more distant get limited & compensated elsewhere I guess) But it only affects a few sites for me so I have not installed tcpmssd (lazy & I'd want to think how tcpmssd might affect fragmented packet firewall rules). FreeBSD-5.* doesnt need that tcpmssd daemon port, it's built in i hear. I use a personal site specific ipfw ruleset, since then FreeBSD has an ipfw default ruleset for you to start with /usr/src/etc/rc.firewall* There's also /usr/ports/security/pf I havent tried it. To quote pkg-descr: Packet Filter (from here on referred to as PF) is OpenBSD's system for filtering TCP/IP traffic and doing Network Address Translation. PF is also capable of normalizing and conditioning TCP/IP traffic and providing bandwidth control and packet prioritization. Version 2.00 of this port has the same function set as found in OpenBSD 3.4 There's also in /etc/defaults/rc.conf ipfilter_enable="NO" Better discussed on freebsd-security@ My Deutsch Telekom provided splitter has an 8 pin output for the DT provided ADSL modem, which is what I use. I have a recently acquired, never used SpeedTouch 330 with a 2 wire terminating in a 6 pin plug. (D'loaded manual last night) I've not had time to consider a 6 / 8 converter. What was the No Fun bit of Linux + SpeedTouch 330 as firewall ? Ive heard often enough that Linux is no fun, but if the SpeedTouch 330 has problems what were they please ? -- Julian Stacey Consultant Systems Engineer, Munich. http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii (Html = Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 16 09:27:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C9A16A41F for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:27:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sjmorgan@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37A743D49 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:27:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sjmorgan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i5so1117523wra for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 02:27:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z6aN/Q4HTxW6YcMZeujqUWFHxIrtwW2HKaBTWjZ+a4apBCPiGTuqeGMEfzLI7oTW/ME+4UZyCfQ4h+BcUXVXpgiCV5gMKrnsrKvq6lcySaIyLP6isTsXv0Xfl7WoRxayb0RheNwru80kWJEl//ZVvZ+UtmUuWtgu4HUMgN2Wg/g= Received: by 10.54.8.51 with SMTP id 51mr4192950wrh; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 02:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 02:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:27:05 +0100 From: Simon Morgan To: Julian Stacey In-Reply-To: <200508160806.j7G86RCB002927@fire.jhs.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200508160806.j7G86RCB002927@fire.jhs.private> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD PPPoA Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:27:06 -0000 On 8/16/05, Julian Stacey wrote: > My Deutsch Telekom provided splitter has an 8 pin output for the > DT provided ADSL modem, which is what I use. I have a recently > acquired, never used SpeedTouch 330 with a 2 wire terminating in a > 6 pin plug. (D'loaded manual last night) I've not had time to > consider a 6 / 8 converter. Which modem is is that Deutsch Telekom provide? Does it support PPPoA and work under BSD? > What was the No Fun bit of Linux + SpeedTouch 330 as firewall ? > Ive heard often enough that Linux is no fun, but if the SpeedTouch > 330 has problems what were they please ? The connection would die on average once a week and would refuse to come back up unless I killed pppd, unplugged the modem, plugged it back in again and reconnected. AFAIK the BSD version of the driver is in an even worse state (If it even still works). From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 16 10:37:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384C916A41F for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:37:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC56943D46 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:37:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A4112.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.65.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7GAaxxr060534; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:37:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7GAavUS001402; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:36:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost.jhs.private [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7GAbDSC004817; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:37:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200508161037.j7GAbDSC004817@fire.jhs.private> To: Simon Morgan From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com Munich Unix, BSD, Internet Consultancy User-agent: EXMH http://beedub.com/exmh/ on FreeBSD http://freebsd.org X-URL: http://berklix.com/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:27:05 BST." Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:37:13 +0200 Sender: jhs@flat.berklix.net Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD PPPoA Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:37:04 -0000 Simon Morgan wrote: > On 8/16/05, Julian Stacey wrote: > > My Deutsch Telekom provided splitter has an 8 pin output for the > > DT provided ADSL modem, which is what I use. I have a recently > > acquired, never used SpeedTouch 330 with a 2 wire terminating in a > > 6 pin plug. (D'loaded manual last night) I've not had time to > > consider a 6 / 8 converter. > > Which modem is is that Deutsch Telekom provide? Don't know manufacturer & model. Badged with own name. 19 x 16 x 4 cm. White. > Does it support PPPoA Didnt know about PPPoA 'til (see below **) I'm using PPPoE This article has interesting URLs http://www.ruhr.de/home/nathan/FreeBSD/tdsl-freebsd.html (I'm lucky & can read the german text too, if you cant & want to , try http://www.babelfish.org SpeedTouch 330 manual (http://www.speedtouch.com/support.htm) says @ P.9 it supports PPPoE & PPPoA Trying http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html at User & Kernel PPP, I immediately came to ** http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoa.html Using PPPoA with the Alcatel SpeedTouch USB > and work under BSD? Yes, for years, this mail comes through my PPPoE DT combo. (not Alacatel) > > What was the No Fun bit of Linux + SpeedTouch 330 as firewall ? > > Ive heard often enough that Linux is no fun, but if the SpeedTouch > > 330 has problems what were they please ? > > The connection would die on average once a week and would refuse > to come back up unless I killed pppd, unplugged the modem, plugged > it back in again and reconnected. T-DSL service auto disconnects once a day, (to encourage customers to switch from cheap ADSL with Dynamic IP allocation to SDSL with fixed IP). I've never kept a connection up for long, but the daemons have run for weeks, never been killed for hanging. I suppose in the maybe 2/3 years Ive had my DT DSL modem, Ive rest it a few times whil chasing errors, just in case. > AFAIK the BSD version of the driver > is in an even worse state (If it even still works). Seems your need to try is more urgent, so after you try http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoa.html it'd be interested to hear if it goes smoothly. I'm not sure about maping this 2 wire 6 pin SpeedTouch 330 plug to my DT splitter 8 pin socket. Cant see info in Speedtouch manual, & if I wired it straight into wall, It'd cut out the splitter & I'd lose my ISDN telephones, + maybe different voltage expectations ? Don't know ? Does anyone else ? -- Julian Stacey Consultant Systems Engineer, Munich. http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii (Html = Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 16 11:18:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7663716A41F for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:18:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sjmorgan@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31B843D45 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:18:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sjmorgan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so1201928wra for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 04:18:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YKeGoiCAahUKGFl3zXzKXPtDViQFYFCmVBNQSn+tz+38DedoegC5/X43cPrEoqflhxx3GN6ImXOEo5drDrDUsDQNGvwZ0+6FMFqpme5C9jhGKiHbx7C5b5q2dVeSIBh7LU3BTMwQ5Qy6b7/YIA4SLV8+JZJZQRSlPdMMIoRRl6k= Received: by 10.54.57.77 with SMTP id f77mr4086699wra; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 04:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.62.2 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 04:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:18:07 +0100 From: Simon Morgan To: Julian Stacey In-Reply-To: <200508161037.j7GAbDSC004817@fire.jhs.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200508161037.j7GAbDSC004817@fire.jhs.private> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD PPPoA Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:18:09 -0000 On 8/16/05, Julian Stacey wrote: > Seems your need to try is more urgent, so after you try > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoa.html > it'd be interested to hear if it goes smoothly. My need for it to work properly is more important though. :) The fact that the firmware is called mgmt.o would indicate that the handbook guide refers to the original green "frog" version of the SpeedTouch. The newer 330 uses a completely different firmware and I'm unsure whether it's supported properly. Having Googled for information in the past, my results were far from promising (I don't think I saw a single report of it working correctly). The SpeedTouch 330 is the de facto standard ADSL modem in the UK and so it suprises me that not only is there very little information about using it under BSD, but that there is also very little information (almost none that I can find) about any alternatives. > I'm not sure about maping this 2 wire 6 pin SpeedTouch 330 plug to > my DT splitter 8 pin socket. Cant see info in Speedtouch manual, & if > I wired it straight into wall, It'd cut out the splitter & I'd lose > my ISDN telephones, + maybe different voltage expectations ? Don't > know ? Does anyone else ? Sorry, bit too low level for me. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 17 05:30:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9317D16A41F for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:30:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: from avocado.salatschuessel.net (avocado.salatschuessel.net [83.136.81.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D71D43D45 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:30:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: (qmail 2122 invoked by uid 89); 17 Aug 2005 05:29:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20050817052950.2121.qmail@avocado.salatschuessel.net> From: "Oliver Lehmann" To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:29:50 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: LSI Logic MegaRAID SATA 150-4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:30:31 -0000 Hi, since my fileservers bootdisk died this night, I'm toying with the idea to move over to a SATA-RAID setup. Are there any known problems with LSI Logic MegaRAID SATA 150-4 and FreeBSD 6.0 around? Is it easy to attach a 4th disk later and enlarge the 3disk RAID-5 setup I plan to start with? Is there a FreeBSD tool around for managing the controler like mlxcontrol for Mylex controlers? If not, can I manage it through it's BIOS interface or am I stuck to MS-DOS or worse MS-Windows? Anything else I should know about this controller before I'm gioing to buy it? Greetings Oliver From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 17 11:44:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AA416A420 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:44:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: from ford.blinkenlights.nl (ford.blinkenlights.nl [213.204.211.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7822143D48 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:43:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: from tea.blinkenlights.nl (tea.blinkenlights.nl [192.168.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ford.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D339D179CFA; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: by tea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id 6A5ED286; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28569E7; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:43:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Sten Spans To: Oliver Lehmann In-Reply-To: <20050817052950.2121.qmail@avocado.salatschuessel.net> Message-ID: References: <20050817052950.2121.qmail@avocado.salatschuessel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LSI Logic MegaRAID SATA 150-4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:44:00 -0000 On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > Hi, > since my fileservers bootdisk died this night, I'm toying with the idea to > move over to a SATA-RAID setup. > Are there any known problems with LSI Logic > MegaRAID SATA 150-4 and FreeBSD 6.0 around? nope, it works just fine, it's even listed in the amr manpage. > Is it easy to attach a 4th disk > later and enlarge the 3disk RAID-5 setup I plan to start with? That's a controller issue primarily, although you will have to expand the freebsd slice, which might require some magicks, or a backup/restore. > Is there a FreeBSD tool around for managing the controler like > mlxcontrol for Mylex controlers? If not, can I manage it through it's > BIOS interface or am I stuck to MS-DOS or worse MS-Windows? there is an open source monitoring tool ( not management ). The card is fully bios manageble. > Anything else I should know about this > controller before I'm gioing to buy it? I'd purchase the 300-8x, which should have a substantially faster onboard cpu. The 150-x is a bit of a dog compared to other current sata raid options. most of these questions arent freebsd specific, and quite offtopic for current@ list .... -- Sten Spans "There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in." Leonard Cohen - Anthem From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 11:27:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ACA16A41F; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:27:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uzi@bmby.com) Received: from mail.ilovesex.co.il (line26-112.adsl.actcom.co.il [192.115.26.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581CE43D46; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:27:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uzi@bmby.com) Received: from uzi ([192.168.0.7]) by mail.ilovesex.co.il (8.13.4/8.13.3) with SMTP id j7JBTCct029884; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:29:12 +0300 (IDT) (envelope-from uzi@bmby.com) Message-ID: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> From: "Uzi" To: , Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:31:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1255"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD hardware solution for a database server X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:27:12 -0000 Hi I am looking for a FreeBSD 5.4 hardware/configuration solutions for a MySQL database server. My server is currently running FreeBSD 5.4 with a web/mail/database server on a Proliant DL380 G4 (dual Xeon 3.2, 2 GB ram), and the speed isn't fast enough. We have a pretty big database with allot of complex joins/indexes, so a dedicated database server seems like the next step (among with optimizing/normalizing the database). Proliant DL580 looks fair to my eyes (as I'm pretty happy with HP) But I have a few indecisions: 1. 2/4 CPU 2. Amount of ram (4 GB+) 3. And most important (AFAIK) - Storage configuration (RAID 5 / RAID 0+1 etc.) What would be the preferred solution? Thanks, Uzi P.S - Please CC me the replies as I'm not subscribed. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 12:01:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E30716A41F; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:01:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dean@bong.com.au) Received: from aramaki.bong.com.au (aramaki.bong.com.au [203.91.232.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F5743D45; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:01:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dean@bong.com.au) Received: from dsl-203-33-164-108.nsw.netspace.net.au ([203.33.164.108] helo=[192.168.1.40]) by aramaki.bong.com.au with esmtpa (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1E65ad-0007lY-6F; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:03:15 +1000 Message-ID: <4305C9D0.60607@bong.com.au> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:00:16 +1000 From: Dean Hamstead User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050602) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Uzi References: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> In-Reply-To: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1255; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware solution for a database server X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:01:16 -0000 you may need to look at specifically what sort of queries are taxing the system lots of queries or long queries this will vary your final decision considerably. other options you might consider are.... - breaking up your database across several servers - seperate databases completely (good for mainly write stuff) - !!! replicate and load share (really good for ro stuff) !!! - getting in and really checking that indexes are well designed (indexes can change long taxing queries into childs play) - putting databases (or even tables) on different physical disks - optimising queries where possible - make the queries match indexes better - make smaller queries and then get more cpus. im not sure what these servers are like, im a dell man but its all just hardware. obviously faster cpu, more ram, 15k scsi disks and if raid 1+0 or 5 is faster may depend on the controller how many channels etc. the driver and card performance might even be worth looking into. if your really dying for performace, go back to the ports tree and try compiling for better performance. ie mysql can compile static for (what it claims) better performance, and there is one other option that eludes me. im not sure if linuxthreads is faster than native threads you may also find mysql5 to be faster than 41 (assuming mysql) Dean Uzi wrote: > Hi > > I am looking for a FreeBSD 5.4 hardware/configuration solutions for a > MySQL database server. > > My server is currently running FreeBSD 5.4 with a web/mail/database > server on a Proliant DL380 G4 (dual Xeon 3.2, 2 GB ram), and the speed > isn't fast enough. > > We have a pretty big database with allot of complex joins/indexes, so a > dedicated database server seems like the next step (among with > optimizing/normalizing the database). > > > > Proliant DL580 looks fair to my eyes (as I'm pretty happy with HP) > > But I have a few indecisions: > > > > 1. 2/4 CPU > > 2. Amount of ram (4 GB+) > > 3. And most important (AFAIK) - Storage configuration (RAID 5 / RAID 0+1 > etc.) > > > > What would be the preferred solution? > > > > Thanks, > > Uzi > > > > P.S - Please CC me the replies as I'm not subscribed. Thanks. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: dean@bong.com.au or djzort@bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 13:06:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2321416A421 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:06:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcagle@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172D143D55 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:06:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcagle@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so504794rna for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JkmBZaGMQCUwVdmTTl/0XgeQtIPAoATUkngrNVNPSKnPnrlbm+jruA7oZYQ0/L2FJ+TSYKfGuXhFtHpRCBUgRazPQ9IncQlheLZgqRdn9KuEYJwsR/pdfrE++acwoYI7P2rDkV2X6tQ8S/DnNHH7cwYblglGXG3sgo2Ayt6q69k= Received: by 10.38.59.29 with SMTP id h29mr119616rna; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.90.20 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6863f0c905081906061290c642@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:06:36 -0500 From: jmc To: Uzi In-Reply-To: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware solution for a database server X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:06:38 -0000 For the best database-write performance on the DL380G4, make sure you have the Battery-Backed Write Cache (BBWC) option. The more spindles you have, the better. Are you using all 6 drive bays in the 380? Make sure they're all Ultra320 drives. 15K will give the best performance, but the 10K drives aren't too shabby.=20 RAID0 will give the best performance, but it's not redundant. Next is RAID1, then RAID5 or ADG. You might also try a DL385 (dual socket Opteron) or DL585 (quad socket Opteron) which will give you either 4 or 8 procs (if they are dual core). Regards, John http://people.freebsd.org/~jcagle/ On 8/19/05, Uzi wrote: > Hi >=20 > I am looking for a FreeBSD 5.4 hardware/configuration solutions for a MyS= QL > database server. >=20 > My server is currently running FreeBSD 5.4 with a web/mail/database serve= r > on a Proliant DL380 G4 (dual Xeon 3.2, 2 GB ram), and the speed isn't fas= t > enough. >=20 > We have a pretty big database with allot of complex joins/indexes, so a > dedicated database server seems like the next step (among with > optimizing/normalizing the database). >=20 >=20 >=20 > Proliant DL580 looks fair to my eyes (as I'm pretty happy with HP) >=20 > But I have a few indecisions: >=20 >=20 >=20 > 1. 2/4 CPU >=20 > 2. Amount of ram (4 GB+) >=20 > 3. And most important (AFAIK) - Storage configuration (RAID 5 / RAID 0+1 > etc.) >=20 >=20 >=20 > What would be the preferred solution? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Uzi >=20 >=20 >=20 > P.S - Please CC me the replies as I'm not subscribed. Thanks. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 15:59:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37BA16A41F; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:59:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nevans@talkpoint.com) Received: from relay.talkpoint.com (pobox.talkpoint.com [204.141.15.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527F543D46; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:59:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nevans@talkpoint.com) Received: from ASSP-nospam ([127.0.0.1]) by relay.talkpoint.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:59:18 -0400 Received: from 204.141.15.194 ([204.141.15.194] helo=pleiades.nextvenue.com) by ASSP-nospam ; 19 Aug 05 15:59:17 -0000 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:59:17 -0400 From: Nick Evans To: Dean Hamstead Message-ID: <20050819115917.7351eef0@pleiades.nextvenue.com> In-Reply-To: <4305C9D0.60607@bong.com.au> References: <040f01c5a4b9$f5d2dff0$0700a8c0@uzi> <4305C9D0.60607@bong.com.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.7; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Aug 2005 15:59:18.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[F46E19A0:01C5A4D6] Cc: freebsd-database@freebsd.org, Uzi , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD hardware solution for a database server X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:59:20 -0000 On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:00:16 +1000 Dean Hamstead wrote: > if your really dying for performace, go back to the ports tree > and try compiling for better performance. ie mysql can compile > static for (what it claims) better performance, and there is > one other option that eludes me. im not sure if linuxthreads > is faster than native threads > > you may also find mysql5 to be faster than 41 (assuming mysql) > > > > Dean > Linking/libmapping mysql against libthr gave a big performance boost on RELENG_6 on our dual Opteron test server. Certainly much more than the compile time options. It's been stable too and we beat the hell out of it. sledgehammer# more /etc/libmap.conf [/usr/local/libexec/mysqld] libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 libpthread.so.1 libthr.so.1 libpthread.so libthr.so Nick From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 22:46:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988F416A41F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:46:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fhard@ccstores.com) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368C643D46 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:46:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fhard@ccstores.com) Received: from [64.114.58.101] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E6FdZ-000DiA-Sm; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:46:57 -0700 Message-ID: <43066161.2050906@ccstores.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:46:57 -0700 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (01) Subject: comtrol rocketport 16 PCI X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:46:58 -0000 the 5.4 kernel appears to support rocketport simply by including "device rp" in the kernel compile, after which devices like: /dev/ttyR[0-9a-f] /dev/ttyiR[0-9a-f] /dev/ttylR[0-9a-f] /dev/cuaR[0-9a-f] /dev/cuaiR[0-9a-f] /dev/cualR[0-9a-f] get created. would someone please advise the purpose of the "iR" & "lR" devices? also, comtrol has some kind of support for the 5 kernel on their ftp site; with a few instructions on how to remove some existing files, add some of theirs, and re-compile the kernel. their instructions suggest that ports are: /dev/ttyC* and /dev/cuaC* when following _their_ instructions, a fresh kernel compile crashes. I see someone posted a question WRT the compile crash back in 1/24/05. there were no responses. I would like to confirm that the existing FreeBSD settings for rocketport support do indeed work, and that it isn't necessary to go thru comtrol's compilation routine. TIA Jim From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 20 04:30:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68C616A420 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 04:30:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E1A43D48 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 04:30:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7K4UBH8012505 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:30:12 +1000 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j7K4UBSR034120; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:30:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost) by cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id j7K4UAOm034119; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:30:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:30:10 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Jim Pazarena Message-ID: <20050820043010.GM13959@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <43066161.2050906@ccstores.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43066161.2050906@ccstores.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: comtrol rocketport 16 PCI X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 04:30:16 -0000 On Fri, 2005-Aug-19 15:46:57 -0700, Jim Pazarena wrote: >would someone please advise the purpose of the "iR" & "lR" devices? You can use termios(2) on the 'i' device to define the default initial state on device open and on the 'l' device to lock parameters so they can't be changed. Look for 'lock' or 'initial' in the sio(4) manpage. Sorry, I can't help with the rest. -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 20 10:08:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB95A16A41F for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:08:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek64@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [216.148.227.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A4C43D46 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:08:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek64@comcast.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-67-171-220-4.hsd1.or.comcast.net[67.171.220.4]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005082010085001500mr45fe>; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:08:50 +0000 Message-ID: <43070201.4000707@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 03:12:17 -0700 From: derekdickerson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: D-Link DGE-530T NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:08:51 -0000 i have the same problem with the 530T did you get the missing vpd key error fixed with that gigabit nic