From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 17 15:02:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3464F16A409 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gueven.bay@googlemail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96D513C481 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gueven.bay@googlemail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a73so3099876pye for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:02:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ddKi6ZbeUsKPZTSXBqahMkWM1+TbcbQ5ENjLcQksm+6UWIW1LSLWDrH4/Es8YQAenMqabvCE/kJbPSCtzGisAdes5+crkDx7vhvmNhTthSLi17kbAe/SukZB8HVUGu3DVP7thvLzFBjvp+iyxwyRjYwMir/ewLqcs2pLkcvqMuM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ZOISIjZYzQ00OCm5etXqB1GGet70V+hnYfVxm8X5yqDc+Tn7wD3WTgfXMd/YJfAVm27yE/tVn0gFCCiT+EOfts+G1zkV5kp9YhJgydEMvi9feJGnLw7sr2zvM2CTz93X4kFvtMW34ETX6Gn42ebpj9cW5U16GwVwiPpjZXUnAmk= Received: by 10.35.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr906049pyi.1184684565120; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.75.7 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <13413b8f0707170802i75c11a97gef36008aa40484ea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:02:45 +0200 From: "Gueven Bay" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Menhir -the four-way distro with FBSD - is starting now X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:02:47 -0000 Hi all together, I already posted my plans here to distribute FreeBSD with NetBSD, Slackware and OpenSolaris side by side. I want to thank for every comment I got from this mailing lists members. They helped me to come to the final design of the project. Now there is a website for Menhir. And I wrote something like a press release which I want post here so you know what Menhir will bring to the user and to the developer. ***********Begin**************** Menhir was started to grow the publicity of FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenSolaris side by side with Slackware. And to widen the skills of the users to all four operating systems. If you look at the Free Software scene you see that most if not all projects - at the operating system level and at the application level - and magazines, blogs and newspapers concentrate on GNU/Linux. Also you can note that most people start with a Linux distribution and then lock himself in the GNU/Linux world. This is very unfortunate as the other free Unix-like operating systems bring with them great development and usage culture. The one missing bit at their side is popularity. So Menhir is going to reach the above vision by building a strong, open and helpful community to cultivate and distribute the knowledge about all four, free operating systems. Because in the free software scene the popularity of projects grow by "propaganda". And "propaganda" is spread by experienced users and developers who will be fully satisfied by the operating systems because of their successes basing on their experience. To build the knowledge following development projects are started in the Menhir project: * A document based on "BSD Associate Exam Objectives" will be written which guides every user in the use and administration of FreeBSD, NetBSD, Slackware and OpenSolaris. * A document based on "Advanced Linux Programming" will be written which teaches the advanced devlopment on the four platforms. * The base systems of Slackware, FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenSolaris are ported to the pkgsrc format. After finishing this project everyone will be able to install the operating systems with their userland using the pkgsrc tools. * A collection of kernel configuration files for desktops, laptops and servers. You get insight in the structure and building of the kernel if you configure and compile your own for your hardware. So at the website of Menhir we will collect configuration files for the hardware of the big hardware vendors. * A structured manual for the engineer-like construction and installation of an infrastructure basing on the four operating systems. With all four operating systems you can perfectly build networks for home and professional use. This manual called "Free Software Systems Engineering" will guide you in the effort to build efficient and secure networks. What we will get in the end is a great collaboration of the developers and users of all todays communities of the four operating systems for a distribution with the priciples: Strength, Dynamics, Knowledge and Freedom. You, dear reader, are invited to join the newsgroup for all your questions, comments and contributions of all sorts. The website of Menhir is : http://code.google.com/p/menhir The newsgroup of Menhir is: http://groups.google.com/group/menhir-discuss ***********End**************** You can post your comments here or in the newsgroup. regards Gueven Bay From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 18 16:38:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3360316A408 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from reedmedia.net (228.sub-75-209-77.myvzw.com [75.209.77.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E81D13C4A3 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from reed by reedmedia.net with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1IBCDx-000249-00; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:18:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:18:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: Gueven Bay In-Reply-To: <13413b8f0707170802i75c11a97gef36008aa40484ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <13413b8f0707170802i75c11a97gef36008aa40484ea@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Menhir -the four-way distro with FBSD - is starting now X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:38:05 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Gueven Bay wrote: > To build the knowledge following development projects are started in > the Menhir project: > * A document based on "BSD Associate Exam Objectives" will be written > which guides every user in the use and administration of FreeBSD, > NetBSD, Slackware and OpenSolaris. BSD-licensed documentation covering the BSD Certification Group's Associate (BSDA) Certification Requirements Document (also known as the BSDA Exam Objectives) is available via http://bsdwiki.reedmedia.net/wiki/ You can use that to jump start your effort. (Or please consider joining there and adding or improving the existing "bsdwiki book".) > * The base systems of Slackware, FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenSolaris are > ported to the pkgsrc format. After finishing this project everyone > will be able to install the operating systems with their userland > using the pkgsrc tools. This sounds interesting. I did the same thing with my own "pkglinux" distribution a few years ago and ran it for a couple years. I had pkgsrc packages for Linux kernels, glibc, and all essential Linux components -- see the pkgsrc-wip project for most of this). Jeremy C. Reed From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 15:07:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F75416A419 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikael@ingate.com) Received: from kokeicha.ingate.se (fw-sth.ingate.se [62.181.225.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF19613C481 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikael@ingate.com) Received: from ing-sth-ex-01.ingate.se (exchange.ingate.se [62.181.227.178]) by kokeicha.ingate.se (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l6KEnc80011259 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:49:40 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:51:15 +0200 Message-ID: <6C21E8CB1B813E4F9085036310AA6B50046B8467@ing-sth-ex-01.ingate.se> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: building a XEN system thread-index: AcfK3Wwf+0VSwpeYTs+h7eaFPkh/jg== From: "Mikael Johansson" To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.3, clamav-milter version 0.90.3 on kokeicha.ingate.se X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Report: * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 0.0 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on kokeicha.ingate.se X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (kokeicha.ingate.se [10.48.254.3]); Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:49:41 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: building a XEN system X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:07:11 -0000 Hi =20 Quick question, Did your system work as expected with XEN? =20 Thanks Mikael From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 21 06:42:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D7A16A418 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meubanks@wsu.edu) Received: from que03.charter.net (que03.charter.net [209.225.8.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D6E13C458 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meubanks@wsu.edu) Received: from aa03.charter.net ([10.20.200.155]) by mtao01.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070721063036.OJCC1445.mtao01.charter.net@aa03.charter.net> for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:30:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.101] (really [71.92.123.54]) by aa03.charter.net with ESMTP id <20070721063036.FXPB7864.aa03.charter.net@[192.168.10.101]> for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:30:36 -0400 From: "Michael S. Eubanks" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:30:35 -0700 Message-Id: <1184999435.1082.21.camel@yak.mseubanks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Subject: Computers and parts to donate... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: meubanks@wsu.edu List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:42:50 -0000 I'm just curious if anyone knows of a place that will accept relatively extinct hardware and/or good UNIX starter machines? If not, I'll just wait until I meet someone who wants some stuff for fun or otherwise. -Michael S. Eubanks meubanks@wsu.edu