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From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 19:21:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD9F16A41B for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:21:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from smtp.nlink.com.br (smtp.nlink.com.br [201.12.59.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CAD313C4BF for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: (qmail 53270 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2007 16:37:42 -0000 Received: from foker.nlink.com.br (HELO cesna.nlink.com.br) (paulo@intra.nlink.com.br@201.12.60.146) by smtp.nlink.com.br with SMTP; 23 Oct 2007 16:37:42 -0000 Message-ID: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:34:24 -0300 From: Paulo Fragoso User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070702) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:21:27 -0000 Hi, We have a FreeBSD mail server with 1TB RAID 6 using Areca ARC-1220 controler, all works fine. Today our backups are made on DDS-4 tapes, they are very slow and too small, this is our problem. What is a good (modern) alternative to DDS-4 working on FreeBSD? Thanks, Paulo Fragoso. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 20:24:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9D216A417 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tibor@tibor.org) Received: from mercury.acsalaska.net (mercury.acsalaska.net [209.112.173.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9195D13C48D for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tibor@tibor.org) Received: from alpha.tibor.org (66-230-99-2-dsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.2]) by mercury.acsalaska.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l9NK3bAj013118; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:03:38 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from tibor@tibor.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpha.tibor.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9NK3bsK038652; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:03:37 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from tibor@tibor.org) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:03:37 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mike Tibor To: Paulo Fragoso In-Reply-To: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> Message-ID: <20071023115757.B15895@alpha.tibor.org> References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mercury.acsalaska.net [209.112.168.120]); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:03:39 -0800 (AKDT) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (alpha.tibor.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:03:37 -0800 (AKDT) X-ACS-Spam-Status: no X-ACS-Spam-Score: 0.1 () X-ACS-Spam-Tests: RDNS_DYNAMIC, X-ACS-Scanned-By: MD 2.61; SA 3.2.3; spamdefang 1.122 Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:24:23 -0000 On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Paulo Fragoso wrote: > Hi, > > We have a FreeBSD mail server with 1TB RAID 6 using Areca ARC-1220 controler, > all works fine. > > Today our backups are made on DDS-4 tapes, they are very slow and too small, > this is our problem. What is a good (modern) alternative to DDS-4 working on > FreeBSD? At another job I used a Sony AIT-2 drive to back up a number of BSD/OS and FreeBSD boxes, and it was fine. At the job I'm in now I get to play with an ADIC Scalar I2000 tape library with LTO2 drives. LTO2 is pretty nice, but it's starting to get a little expensive. LTO3 or 4 would be great if you can afford it. I suppose it depends greatly on the budget you have available. If you want to get away from tape, you could build up a disk-based backup server with a number of large SATA drives and script something using rsync. Mike From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 20:33:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D3A16A417 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mesiob.obspm.fr (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A231813C4A3 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from localhost (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.3]) by mesiob.obspm.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris) with ESMTP id l9NKTG1o006814; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:29:16 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:29:16 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Mike Tibor Message-ID: <20071023202916.GG62076@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> <20071023115757.B15895@alpha.tibor.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20071023115757.B15895@alpha.tibor.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:29:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on mesiob.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:33:29 -0000 Le 23/10/2007 à 12:03:37-0800, Mike Tibor a écrit > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Paulo Fragoso wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We have a FreeBSD mail server with 1TB RAID 6 using Areca ARC-1220 >> controler, all works fine. >> >> Today our backups are made on DDS-4 tapes, they are very slow and too >> small, this is our problem. What is a good (modern) alternative to DDS-4 >> working on FreeBSD? > > At another job I used a Sony AIT-2 drive to back up a number of BSD/OS and > FreeBSD boxes, and it was fine. At the job I'm in now I get to play with > an ADIC Scalar I2000 tape library with LTO2 drives. LTO2 is pretty nice, > but it's starting to get a little expensive. LTO3 or 4 would be great if > you can afford it. I suppose it depends greatly on the budget you have > available. > > If you want to get away from tape, you could build up a disk-based backup > server with a number of large SATA drives and script something using rsync. Well....IMHO it's not the same thing. The backup on other server is usable if you have another bulding, because if the backup server is in same room if you have fire in you server room you lost everything. With tape you can put the tape more easyly in another room/building. But if you can I recommand you to using rsnapshot (it's in ports) it's set of perl script base on rsync and it's very wonderful tool. Regards. -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Mar 23 oct 2007 22:26:35 CEST From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 20:57:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8D316A418 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE1A13C4B2 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C981A000B0D for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:38:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.sd73.bc.ca Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id oyHf6nN7zHDE for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coal (s10.sbo [192.168.0.10]) by smtp.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D88F1A000B0B for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:38:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Freddie Cash Organization: School District 73 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:38:21 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> In-Reply-To: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710231338.21368.fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:57:27 -0000 On October 23, 2007 09:34 am Paulo Fragoso wrote: > We have a FreeBSD mail server with 1TB RAID 6 using Areca ARC-1220 > controler, all works fine. > > Today our backups are made on DDS-4 tapes, they are very slow and too > small, this is our problem. What is a good (modern) alternative to > DDS-4 working on FreeBSD? For our multi-TB systems, we do disk-based backups using dar ... to another multi-TB system. :) We use a custom shell script to handle creating full and incremental backups and to rotate through multiple directories to keep a couple backups around. All via gigabit ethernet and NFS. And once a week we copy a full backup offsite via SSH tunnels to another multi-TB system via a gigabit fibre link. We're using RAID5 with hot-spares on 3Ware 9550SX controllers. -- Freddie Cash, LPIC-2 CCNT CCLP Network Support Technician School District 73 (250) 377-HELP [377-4357] fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 21:02:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED9C16A47A for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.hyunseog@ieee.org) Received: from jushin.moonworld.org (icarus.norlight.net [69.8.143.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB8913C4B9 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.hyunseog@ieee.org) Received: from [69.8.143.100] (unassigned.norlight.net [69.8.143.100] (may be forged)) by jushin.moonworld.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9NKfck4081364; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:41:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from r.hyunseog@ieee.org) Message-ID: <471E5C6E.4040909@ieee.org> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:41:18 -0500 From: Hyunseog Ryu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> <20071023115757.B15895@alpha.tibor.org> <20071023202916.GG62076@pcjas.obspm.fr> In-Reply-To: <20071023202916.GG62076@pcjas.obspm.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=8552D373; url=http://keyserver.noreply.org/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x664133248552D373 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Mike Tibor Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:02:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 With hot-swappable RAID disk, you can move around from building to building, or from city to city. Albert Shih wrote: > Le 23/10/2007 à 12:03:37-0800, Mike Tibor a écrit >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Paulo Fragoso wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We have a FreeBSD mail server with 1TB RAID 6 using Areca >>> ARC-1220 controler, all works fine. >>> >>> Today our backups are made on DDS-4 tapes, they are very slow >>> and too small, this is our problem. What is a good (modern) >>> alternative to DDS-4 working on FreeBSD? >> At another job I used a Sony AIT-2 drive to back up a number of >> BSD/OS and FreeBSD boxes, and it was fine. At the job I'm in now >> I get to play with an ADIC Scalar I2000 tape library with LTO2 >> drives. LTO2 is pretty nice, but it's starting to get a little >> expensive. LTO3 or 4 would be great if you can afford it. I >> suppose it depends greatly on the budget you have available. >> >> If you want to get away from tape, you could build up a >> disk-based backup server with a number of large SATA drives and >> script something using rsync. > > Well....IMHO it's not the same thing. The backup on other server is > usable if you have another bulding, because if the backup server is > in same room if you have fire in you server room you lost > everything. With tape you can put the tape more easyly in another > room/building. > > But if you can I recommand you to using rsnapshot (it's in ports) > it's set of perl script base on rsync and it's very wonderful tool. > > > Regards. > > -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure > local/Local time: Mar 23 oct 2007 22:26:35 CEST > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To > unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHHlxuZkEzJIVS03MRArh4AJ4k61OIRVeMBQf/yIRXXZZ5rdLD+QCgmetO GfZy4TmUGW2YyKoGlsXNQks= =v+LC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 21:18:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B59A16A417 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mesiob.obspm.fr (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC2913C4A6 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from localhost (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.3]) by mesiob.obspm.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris) with ESMTP id l9NLI3Rj017485; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:18:04 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:18:03 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Hyunseog Ryu Message-ID: <20071023211803.GA62832@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> <20071023115757.B15895@alpha.tibor.org> <20071023202916.GG62076@pcjas.obspm.fr> <471E5C6E.4040909@ieee.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <471E5C6E.4040909@ieee.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:18:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on mesiob.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Mike Tibor Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:18:23 -0000 Le 23/10/2007 à 15:41:18-0500, Hyunseog Ryu a écrit > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > With hot-swappable RAID disk, you can move around from building to > building, or from city to city. Yes I known, but I've very big dout you can do this every nigth. The question is to if you can, but if you do. It's for that there something like crontab etc. -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Mar 23 oct 2007 23:16:54 CEST From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 21:22:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CD416A418 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@blacquiere.nl) Received: from post-26.mail.nl.demon.net (post-26.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A922413C465 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@blacquiere.nl) Received: from guldan-dsl.demon.nl ([83.160.7.100]:56027) by post-26.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1IkQQF-000AnE-Bg; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:32:19 +0000 Received: from shellvm.blacquiere.nl ([192.168.201.5] helo=shell.blacquiere.nl) by guldan-dsl.demon.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IkQQ8-000Mrb-Ou; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:32:18 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:32:12 +0200 From: Robert Blacquiere To: Mike Tibor Message-ID: <20071023203212.GA77481@shellvm.blacquiere.nl> References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> <20071023115757.B15895@alpha.tibor.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071023115757.B15895@alpha.tibor.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Disclaimer: running FreeBSD X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.201.5 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: robert@blacquiere.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on mailvm.blacquiere.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on guldan-dsl.demon.nl) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:22:14 -0000 On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 12:03:37PM -0800, Mike Tibor wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Paulo Fragoso wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >We have a FreeBSD mail server with 1TB RAID 6 using Areca ARC-1220 > >controler, all works fine. > > > >Today our backups are made on DDS-4 tapes, they are very slow and too > >small, this is our problem. What is a good (modern) alternative to DDS-4 > >working on FreeBSD? > > At another job I used a Sony AIT-2 drive to back up a number of BSD/OS and > FreeBSD boxes, and it was fine. At the job I'm in now I get to play with > an ADIC Scalar I2000 tape library with LTO2 drives. LTO2 is pretty nice, > but it's starting to get a little expensive. LTO3 or 4 would be great if > you can afford it. I suppose it depends greatly on the budget you have > available. > > If you want to get away from tape, you could build up a disk-based backup > server with a number of large SATA drives and script something using > rsync. Hooking on the disk based solution. With bacula and amanda you can use disc based backups and use tape backup. Data can be streamed from the disc based holding disc to the "slow" tape. But this may need tapes with the apporiate size. Robert -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? OpenBSD: Hey guys you left some holes out there! From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 21:26:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06C016A47B for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from noop.in-addr.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:5c0:8fff:fffe::214d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7BA13C4A7 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from gjp by noop.in-addr.com with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1IkREr-000HGI-Op; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:24:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:24:37 -0400 From: Gary Palmer To: Freddie Cash Message-ID: <20071023212437.GA3356@in-addr.com> References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> <200710231338.21368.fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200710231338.21368.fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:26:32 -0000 On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 01:38:21PM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: > On October 23, 2007 09:34 am Paulo Fragoso wrote: > > We have a FreeBSD mail server with 1TB RAID 6 using Areca ARC-1220 > > controler, all works fine. > > > > Today our backups are made on DDS-4 tapes, they are very slow and too > > small, this is our problem. What is a good (modern) alternative to > > DDS-4 working on FreeBSD? > > For our multi-TB systems, we do disk-based backups using dar ... to > another multi-TB system. :) > > We use a custom shell script to handle creating full and incremental > backups and to rotate through multiple directories to keep a couple > backups around. All via gigabit ethernet and NFS. And once a week we > copy a full backup offsite via SSH tunnels to another multi-TB system via > a gigabit fibre link. > > We're using RAID5 with hot-spares on 3Ware 9550SX controllers. Hi, Any issues withe RAID5 sets on the 3Ware controllers? I've heard bad things about RAID5 on older 3Ware controllers when a disk fails. Just wondering if the situation is improved. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 21:28:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE8616A418 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mesiob.obspm.fr (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4503313C4AA for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from localhost (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.3]) by mesiob.obspm.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris) with ESMTP id l9NJv7Ym031514; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:57:07 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:57:07 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Paulo Fragoso Message-ID: <20071023195707.GD62076@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:57:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on mesiob.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:28:15 -0000 Le 23/10/2007 à 13:34:24-0300, Paulo Fragoso a écrit > Hi, > > We have a FreeBSD mail server with 1TB RAID 6 using Areca ARC-1220 > controler, all works fine. > > Today our backups are made on DDS-4 tapes, they are very slow and too > small, this is our problem. What is a good (modern) alternative to DDS-4 > working on FreeBSD? You can use LTO-4 (more expensive) or LTO-3. It's working like any SCSI device by using tar command. You got with LTO-4 800Go on one tape without any comprress. And if you put only mail the compressing working very well and you can put all your file on one tape. The speed is very good. On Linux server (but this change nothing) with LTO-3 we god 30 Mo/s Regards -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Mar 23 oct 2007 21:53:20 CEST From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 21:28:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5651B16A41A for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario@schmut.com) Received: from mail.schmut.com (mail.schmut.com [66.92.49.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 463EF13C4B2 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario@schmut.com) Received: (qmail 73307 invoked by uid 89); 23 Oct 2007 21:01:27 -0000 Received: from [192.168.223.4] (192.168.223.4) by snoopy.schmut.com (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:01:26 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:59:44 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> In-Reply-To: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710231359.45340.mario@schmut.com> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Mario Theodoridis X-Primary-Address: mario@schmut.com X-Schmut-Approved: yes Cc: Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mario Theodoridis List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:28:26 -0000 On Tuesday 23 October 2007 09:34:24 Paulo Fragoso wrote: > Hi, > > We have a FreeBSD mail server with 1TB RAID 6 using Areca ARC-1220 > controler, all works fine. > > Today our backups are made on DDS-4 tapes, they are very slow and too > small, this is our problem. What is a good (modern) alternative to DDS-4 > working on FreeBSD? I'm not an ISP, but i found harddrives to be very effective. I use bacula to backup various locations. Once a month i do a full backup which gets copied on a 400G SATA harddrive and taken offsite. I have 2 of these 400G harddrives. One is always offsite. Then i have nightly incremental backups which i rsync offsite over the network. So i effectively have nightly offsite backups. The full data set used to be around a 150G. It's down to 80G now. Hot plugging the harddrive: I found USB2 to be flaky on FreeBSD resulting in either dropping to USB1 or locking up the box. I currently have an on board SATA controller that shows up as IDE. This allows using atacontrol attach/detach and works well. Most higher end disk controllers also facilitate hot plugging. This should scale well to larger datasets as larger harddrive become available. Harddrives are relatively cheap, fast and they're well protected. The only gotcha you might run into is doing nightly incremental backups over the net if the incremental datasets get too big. But you'll have that problem regardless of storage medium. A nightly incremental of my 6-stable server runs around 10-30M. This obviously varies on how much data changes are on a given box. mario;> From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 22:04:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF1C16A41B; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B5613C4B9; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC691A000B13; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:34:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.sd73.bc.ca Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id YiY-rLics2PB; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coal (s10.sbo [192.168.0.10]) by smtp.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8085A1A000B0B; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:34:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Freddie Cash Organization: School District 73 To: Gary Palmer Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:34:42 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> <200710231338.21368.fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com> <20071023212437.GA3356@in-addr.com> In-Reply-To: <20071023212437.GA3356@in-addr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200710231434.43201.fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com> Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:04:11 -0000 On October 23, 2007 02:24 pm you wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 01:38:21PM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: > > On October 23, 2007 09:34 am Paulo Fragoso wrote: > > > We have a FreeBSD mail server with 1TB RAID 6 using Areca ARC-1220 > > > controler, all works fine. > > > > > > Today our backups are made on DDS-4 tapes, they are very slow and > > > too small, this is our problem. What is a good (modern) alternative > > > to DDS-4 working on FreeBSD? > > > > For our multi-TB systems, we do disk-based backups using dar ... to > > another multi-TB system. :) > > > > We use a custom shell script to handle creating full and incremental > > backups and to rotate through multiple directories to keep a couple > > backups around. All via gigabit ethernet and NFS. And once a week > > we copy a full backup offsite via SSH tunnels to another multi-TB > > system via a gigabit fibre link. > > > > We're using RAID5 with hot-spares on 3Ware 9550SX controllers. > > Any issues withe RAID5 sets on the 3Ware controllers? I've heard bad > things about RAID5 on older 3Ware controllers when a disk fails. Just > wondering if the situation is improved. We've been using RAID5 on 3Ware 7506-4LP, 9500S, and 9550SX controllers from 3Ware without any issues. When a drive dies, we use the web GUI to remove the drive from the array, replace the drive with a new one, mark the new one as a hot-spare, and then watch as the controller rebuilds the array with the new drive. On the 7506 we have to power down the servers, but our big multi-TB systems have nice SATA hot-swap backplanes. Haven't had any issues running FreeBSD 5.x (twe), 6.x (twa), or Debian Linux 4.x (3w-9xxx) on these cards. Our largest array is currently 4 TB usable space (2x 2TB arrays combined via LVM). Most of our systems are < 1TB. -- Freddie Cash, LPIC-2 CCNT CCLP Network Support Technician School District 73 (250) 377-HELP [377-4357] fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 22:24:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A70A16A418 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from plouf.absolight.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:c11e:e088:2:c:6ebf:fe78:348]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF11413C4A3 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from plouf.absolight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plouf.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C5B764013; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:24:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from atuin.in.mat.cc (ATuin.in.mat.cc [193.30.224.125]) by plouf.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FE0764010; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:24:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atuin.in.mat.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB2B54ADA6; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:24:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:24:09 +0200 From: Mathieu Arnold To: Hyunseog Ryu , Albert.Shih@obspm.fr Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <471E5C6E.4040909@ieee.org> References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> <20071023115757.B15895@alpha.tibor.org> <20071023202916.GG62076@pcjas.obspm.fr> <471E5C6E.4040909@ieee.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="==========4C44B551881927E8C113==========" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Mike Tibor Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:24:31 -0000 --==========4C44B551881927E8C113========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline +-Le 23/10/07 15:41 -0500, Hyunseog Ryu a dit : | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- | Hash: SHA1 | | With hot-swappable RAID disk, you can move around from building to | building, or from city to city. And after some time, the "master" raid disk dies while rebuilding because it took way too much stress :-) -- Mathieu Arnold --==========4C44B551881927E8C113========== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHHnSNJqR8av5thQ8RAmJeAKCpVBeaAunQr3bQLvDdlQcxNCtMAwCfQwO9 rTkg4lkkTCLB7nSluRQIJQI= =08Jw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==========4C44B551881927E8C113==========-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 02:30:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B035616A46B for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682C513C4A3 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 16155 invoked by uid 1002); 24 Oct 2007 02:06:43 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.337468 secs); 24 Oct 2007 02:06:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 24 Oct 2007 02:06:36 -0000 Message-ID: <471EA800.5050105@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:03:44 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Motin References: <1193167388.00818069.1193155802@10.7.7.3> <471E7C91.9050403@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <471E7C91.9050403@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Kevin Bortis Subject: Re: dualstack IPv4/IPv6 ADSL PPPoE configuration? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:30:42 -0000 >> The only IPv6 related info I have from the ISP is the address of the >> subnet. > > To implement dual-stack PPPoE setup you can use ppp or net/mpd4. Can't > say for sure about ppp, but with mpd all you need to do is to enable > ipv6cp protocol. After this daemon except IPv4 will also negotiate IPv6 > link-level addresses. All you need to do after that is to somehow > configure interface with your real IPv6 addresses using some daemon or > statically. Due to interest, I'd like to keep this thread alive. Does anyone have a working config that is capable of what the OP asked (dual stack IPv6 and IPv4) in a PPPoE environment? I can post an mpd4 working config that does multilink bonding in IPv4. However, getting this to work with IPv6 as well would be a good thing for Google to capture. I don't have an upstream that does v6 yet, but I do have a v6 block. Is it as simple as assigning a static to the tunnel interface after it comes up and having your ISP route the block to you? With the above suggestion, I just want to understand the 'somehow configure' part... If this doesn't go far here, I will push it to some of my IPv6 and/or network operations lists to get suggestions and report back. If anyone has the ability to trade off a PPPoE login for a brief period that has v6 capabilities, it would be MOST appreciated. Even a login without traffic transit capabilities would be great. If someone could provide such a PPPoE login with v6 and v4 access to test that has operational authority within their network, I would gladly work with them and dedicate as much of the resources and hardware this ISP has to ensure adequate documentation is provided to the community as to how IPv6 and IPv4 dual-stack configuration is done in regards to PPPoE, particularly with mpd4 and more specifically FreeBSD. Thus far, there is no such documentation. Cc'ing -isp. Steve -- Steve Bertrand Senior Network Manager eagle.ca Internet Services 905.373.9313 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 07:47:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5EF16A418; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@pinky.sax.de) Received: from post.frank-behrens.de (post.frank-behrens.de [82.139.255.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6300913C480; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@pinky.sax.de) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pinky.sax.de; h=from:to:date:mime-version:subject:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-description; q=dns/txt; s=pinky1; t=1193211401; i=frank@pinky.sax.de; bh=K9YGxCzCy7yUqJJhbOVKeidHq8w4ZqTElRpgj9jOcYs=; b=loRfZeSDjSH9v6bR1Ym61GmevglMlu5PrQKRt3A6O6GqyNhtPQPOqBWRTKrVz5oWa7ztBlymVSwZWjUbFV+alw== Received: from [192.168.20.32] (sun.behrens [192.168.20.32]) by post.frank-behrens.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP-MSA id l9O7a5PI003244; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:36:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from frank@pinky.sax.de) Message-Id: <200710240736.l9O7a5PI003244@post.frank-behrens.de> From: "Frank Behrens" To: Steve Bertrand Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:36:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Priority: normal In-reply-to: <471EA800.5050105@ibctech.ca> References: <471E7C91.9050403@FreeBSD.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31, DE v4.31 R1) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Hashcash: 1:24:071024:mav@freebsd.org::M1GzW38cq1OgQRzP:0WY+r X-Hashcash: 1:24:071024:wermut@gmail.com::xbotAB7VG2fgIkma:McGM X-Hashcash: 1:24:071024:freebsd-net@freebsd.org::eOecctNeryzJ6ZOP:00000000000GaWv X-Hashcash: 1:24:071024:freebsd-isp@freebsd.org::quM2u7cJxTWvddr9:0000000000CX4o X-Hashcash: 1:24:071024:iaccounts@ibctech.ca::+s/JpbZvXqNY2ims:6DaV Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Alexander Motin , Kevin Bortis Subject: Re: dualstack IPv4/IPv6 ADSL PPPoE configuration? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:47:59 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote on 23 Oct 2007 22:03: > >> The only IPv6 related info I have from the ISP is the address of the > >> subnet. > > > > To implement dual-stack PPPoE setup you can use ppp or net/mpd4. Can't > > say for sure about ppp, but with mpd all you need to do is to enable > > ipv6cp protocol. After this daemon except IPv4 will also negotiate IPv6 > > link-level addresses. All you need to do after that is to somehow > > configure interface with your real IPv6 addresses using some daemon or > > statically. > > Does anyone have a working config that is capable of what the OP asked > (dual stack IPv6 and IPv4) in a PPPoE environment? I had no problems with user-ppp: in ppp.conf: enable ipv6cp in ppp.linkup: add! default HISADDR add! default HISADDR6 in rc.conf, where xxxx:xxxx:: is my subnet ipv6_enable="YES" ipv6_network_interfaces="net0 tun0 lo0" ipv6_ifconfig_net0="xxxx:xxxx:: prefixlen 64 eui64 autoconf" ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" rtadvd_enable="YES" rtadvd_interfaces="net0" Do you see any problems with this setup? Regards, Frank -- Frank Behrens, Osterwieck, Germany PGP-key 0x5B7C47ED on public servers available. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 09:03:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE6516A468 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonix@interazioni.it) Received: from mx02.interazioni.net (mx02.interazioni.net [80.94.114.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F58413C4B2 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonix@interazioni.it) Received: (qmail 44068 invoked by uid 88); 24 Oct 2007 08:36:54 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 44056, pid: 44063, t: 0.5750s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.88.7/m: Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.56.199?) (tonix@interazioni.it@85.18.206.139) by relay.interazioni.net with ESMTPA; 24 Oct 2007 08:36:53 -0000 Message-ID: <471F0422.5080800@interazioni.it> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:36:50 +0200 From: "tonix (Antonio Nati)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Advanced routing option X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:03:52 -0000 I'm using FreeBSD and Monowall in the most of my servers. One limit I'm facing on both is the lack of an advanced routing feature. Would be too complicated to modify "route" sources (and probably kernel tables) implementing a FROM parameter in ADD command? route add 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.1 route add FROM 200.1.1.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.10 route add FROM 200.1.2.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.11.11 A FROM option would improve a lot routing capabilities and handling of multiple WAN connections. Any comment? Tonino -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Inter@zioni Interazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it tonix@interazioni.it ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 10:11:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E122716A418 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ob@gruft.de) Received: from obh.snafu.de (v6.gruft.de [IPv6:2001:1560:2342::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC3113C4A5 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ob@gruft.de) Received: from ob by obh.snafu.de with local (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IkdCg-000Oc3-JB for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:11:10 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:11:10 +0200 From: Oliver Brandmueller To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071024101110.GC55032@e-Gitt.NET> References: <471F0422.5080800@interazioni.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jt0yj30bxbg11sci" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <471F0422.5080800@interazioni.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: Oliver Brandmueller Subject: Re: Advanced routing option X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:11:17 -0000 --jt0yj30bxbg11sci Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 10:36:50AM +0200, tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: > I'm using FreeBSD and Monowall in the most of my servers. >=20 > One limit I'm facing on both is the lack of an advanced routing feature. >=20 > Would be too complicated to modify "route" sources (and probably kernel= =20 > tables) implementing a FROM parameter in ADD command? >=20 > route add 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.1 > route add FROM 200.1.1.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.10 > route add FROM 200.1.2.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.11.11 >=20 > A FROM option would improve a lot routing capabilities and handling of=20 > multiple WAN connections. >=20 > Any comment? It's quite easy and very flexible to use for example pf for that. This=20 is actually a lot more flexible than doing that in routing tables. I see=20 no reason to blow up the efficient and well working routing framework=20 for an edge case which can be handled easily by existing tools. - Oliver --=20 | Oliver Brandmueller | Offenbacher Str. 1 | Germany D-14197 Berlin | | Fon +49-172-3130856 | Fax +49-172-3145027 | WWW: http://the.addict.de/ | | Ich bin das Internet. Sowahr ich Gott helfe. | | Eine gewerbliche Nutzung aller enthaltenen Adressen ist nicht gestattet! | --jt0yj30bxbg11sci Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHHxo+iqtMdzjafykRAo5TAKCrCWn5rY48X1soRbEeOIX+8OkUNACePWAo lS7Uo+HXRApt8JNVvrhV1w0= =s7oc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jt0yj30bxbg11sci-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 10:11:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1241916A468 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:11:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonix@interazioni.it) Received: from mx02.interazioni.net (mx02.interazioni.net [80.94.114.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945E113C48D for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonix@interazioni.it) Received: (qmail 77683 invoked by uid 88); 24 Oct 2007 10:11:15 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 77668, pid: 77679, t: 0.2693s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.88.7/m: Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.56.199?) (tonix@interazioni.it@85.18.206.139) by relay.interazioni.net with ESMTPA; 24 Oct 2007 10:11:15 -0000 Message-ID: <471F1A3F.5070100@interazioni.it> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:11:11 +0200 From: "tonix (Antonio Nati)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Judge References: <471F0422.5080800@interazioni.it> <471F14E1.8050900@tomjudge.com> In-Reply-To: <471F14E1.8050900@tomjudge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advanced routing option X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:11:40 -0000 Tom Judge ha scritto: > tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: >> I'm using FreeBSD and Monowall in the most of my servers. >> >> One limit I'm facing on both is the lack of an advanced routing feature. >> >> Would be too complicated to modify "route" sources (and probably >> kernel tables) implementing a FROM parameter in ADD command? >> >> route add 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.1 >> route add FROM 200.1.1.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.10 >> route add FROM 200.1.2.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.11.11 >> >> A FROM option would improve a lot routing capabilities and handling >> of multiple WAN connections. >> >> Any comment? >> >> Tonino >> > > If you wish to do this type of policy routing you need to use one of > the firewalls as it can't be done in the routing table. PF can do > this easily with its route-to option. > I feel it is more a routing feature than a fw feature. I don't see extending routing tables (and relative routing checking) so complicated. Tonino > Tom > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Inter@zioni Interazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it tonix@interazioni.it ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 10:17:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C374116A418 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from s200aog11.obsmtp.com (s200aog11.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25EE513C491 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from source ([217.206.187.80]) by eu1sys200aob011.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:17:41 UTC Received: from [10.0.0.89] (bill.mintel.co.uk [10.0.0.89]) by rodney.mintel.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383DA181422; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:48:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <471F14E1.8050900@tomjudge.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:48:17 +0100 From: Tom Judge User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (X11/20070824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "tonix (Antonio Nati)" References: <471F0422.5080800@interazioni.it> In-Reply-To: <471F0422.5080800@interazioni.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advanced routing option X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:17:59 -0000 tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: > I'm using FreeBSD and Monowall in the most of my servers. > > One limit I'm facing on both is the lack of an advanced routing feature. > > Would be too complicated to modify "route" sources (and probably kernel > tables) implementing a FROM parameter in ADD command? > > route add 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.1 > route add FROM 200.1.1.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.10 > route add FROM 200.1.2.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.11.11 > > A FROM option would improve a lot routing capabilities and handling of > multiple WAN connections. > > Any comment? > > Tonino > If you wish to do this type of policy routing you need to use one of the firewalls as it can't be done in the routing table. PF can do this easily with its route-to option. Tom From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 10:18:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E4216A417; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from s200aog10.obsmtp.com (s200aog10.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93CC113C4AA; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from source ([217.206.187.80]) by eu1sys200aob010.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:17:41 UTC Received: from [10.0.0.89] (bill.mintel.co.uk [10.0.0.89]) by rodney.mintel.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED19D18142A; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:46:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <471F1466.6020301@tomjudge.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:46:14 +0100 From: Tom Judge User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (X11/20070824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Palmer References: <471E2290.9040704@nlink.com.br> <200710231338.21368.fjwcash+freebsd@gmail.com> <20071023212437.GA3356@in-addr.com> In-Reply-To: <20071023212437.GA3356@in-addr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backups Hardwares for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:18:00 -0000 Gary Palmer wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 01:38:21PM -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: >> On October 23, 2007 09:34 am Paulo Fragoso wrote: >>> We have a FreeBSD mail server with 1TB RAID 6 using Areca ARC-1220 >>> controler, all works fine. >>> >>> Today our backups are made on DDS-4 tapes, they are very slow and too >>> small, this is our problem. What is a good (modern) alternative to >>> DDS-4 working on FreeBSD? >> For our multi-TB systems, we do disk-based backups using dar ... to >> another multi-TB system. :) >> >> We use a custom shell script to handle creating full and incremental >> backups and to rotate through multiple directories to keep a couple >> backups around. All via gigabit ethernet and NFS. And once a week we >> copy a full backup offsite via SSH tunnels to another multi-TB system via >> a gigabit fibre link. >> >> We're using RAID5 with hot-spares on 3Ware 9550SX controllers. > > Hi, > > Any issues withe RAID5 sets on the 3Ware controllers? I've heard bad things > about RAID5 on older 3Ware controllers when a disk fails. Just wondering > if the situation is improved. > > Thanks, > > Gary There was a discussion about this recently on stable@ I think, but we run a large number of 3ware controllers (75xx, 9xxx, ranging from 4-12 channels). We have never had a problem recovering a 95xx array, however recovering a 75xx array has been difficult/impossible this is probably our fault for not setting up regular verifies to detect drives failing in areas not regularly used. Tom From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 10:56:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5421416A46B for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from s200aog14.obsmtp.com (s200aog14.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2741B13C4A6 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from source ([217.206.187.80]) by eu1sys200aob014.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:56:08 UTC Received: from [10.0.0.89] (bill.mintel.co.uk [10.0.0.89]) by rodney.mintel.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766A918141B; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:56:07 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <471F24C6.8020808@tomjudge.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:56:06 +0100 From: Tom Judge User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (X11/20070824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "tonix (Antonio Nati)" References: <471F0422.5080800@interazioni.it> <471F14E1.8050900@tomjudge.com> <471F1A3F.5070100@interazioni.it> In-Reply-To: <471F1A3F.5070100@interazioni.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advanced routing option X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:56:26 -0000 tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: > Tom Judge ha scritto: >> tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: >>> I'm using FreeBSD and Monowall in the most of my servers. >>> >>> One limit I'm facing on both is the lack of an advanced routing feature. >>> >>> Would be too complicated to modify "route" sources (and probably >>> kernel tables) implementing a FROM parameter in ADD command? >>> >>> route add 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.1 >>> route add FROM 200.1.1.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.10 >>> route add FROM 200.1.2.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.11.11 >>> >>> A FROM option would improve a lot routing capabilities and handling >>> of multiple WAN connections. >>> >>> Any comment? >>> >>> Tonino >>> >> >> If you wish to do this type of policy routing you need to use one of >> the firewalls as it can't be done in the routing table. PF can do >> this easily with its route-to option. >> > I feel it is more a routing feature than a fw feature. I don't see > extending routing tables (and relative routing checking) so complicated. > > Tonino It is not that it is not complicated. It is that it is _NOT_ _POSSIBLE_ to do this with the FreeBSD routing sub system. You _MUST_ do this with a firewall on FreeBSD. Tom From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 11:42:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D5D16A46B for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonix@interazioni.it) Received: from mx02.interazioni.net (mx02.interazioni.net [80.94.114.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572AF13C4B8 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonix@interazioni.it) Received: (qmail 9011 invoked by uid 88); 24 Oct 2007 11:42:01 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 8993, pid: 9008, t: 0.1037s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.88.7/m: Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.56.199?) (tonix@interazioni.it@85.18.206.139) by relay.interazioni.net with ESMTPA; 24 Oct 2007 11:42:01 -0000 Message-ID: <471F2F86.7070805@interazioni.it> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:41:58 +0200 From: "tonix (Antonio Nati)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Judge References: <471F0422.5080800@interazioni.it> <471F14E1.8050900@tomjudge.com> <471F1A3F.5070100@interazioni.it> <471F24C6.8020808@tomjudge.com> In-Reply-To: <471F24C6.8020808@tomjudge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advanced routing option X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:42:17 -0000 Tom Judge ha scritto: > tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: >> Tom Judge ha scritto: >>> tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: >>>> I'm using FreeBSD and Monowall in the most of my servers. >>>> >>>> One limit I'm facing on both is the lack of an advanced routing >>>> feature. >>>> >>>> Would be too complicated to modify "route" sources (and probably >>>> kernel tables) implementing a FROM parameter in ADD command? >>>> >>>> route add 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.1 >>>> route add FROM 200.1.1.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.10 >>>> route add FROM 200.1.2.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.11.11 >>>> >>>> A FROM option would improve a lot routing capabilities and handling >>>> of multiple WAN connections. >>>> >>>> Any comment? >>>> >>>> Tonino >>>> >>> >>> If you wish to do this type of policy routing you need to use one of >>> the firewalls as it can't be done in the routing table. PF can do >>> this easily with its route-to option. >>> >> I feel it is more a routing feature than a fw feature. I don't see >> extending routing tables (and relative routing checking) so complicated. >> >> Tonino > > It is not that it is not complicated. It is that it is _NOT_ > _POSSIBLE_ to do this with the FreeBSD routing sub system. You _MUST_ > do this with a firewall on FreeBSD. Not possible with the ACTUAL routing subsystem, or not possible to change the code to enhance the subsystem? I'm speaking about modifying the code, if necessary. Tonino > Tom > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Inter@zioni Interazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it tonix@interazioni.it ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 11:48:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548B416A421 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from s200aog12.obsmtp.com (s200aog12.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.126]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C71613C48A for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from source ([217.206.187.80]) by eu1sys200aob012.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:47:23 UTC Received: from [10.0.0.89] (bill.mintel.co.uk [10.0.0.89]) by rodney.mintel.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2330918141F; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:47:23 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <471F30CA.7060504@tomjudge.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:47:22 +0100 From: Tom Judge User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (X11/20070824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "tonix (Antonio Nati)" References: <471F0422.5080800@interazioni.it> <471F14E1.8050900@tomjudge.com> <471F1A3F.5070100@interazioni.it> <471F24C6.8020808@tomjudge.com> <471F2F86.7070805@interazioni.it> In-Reply-To: <471F2F86.7070805@interazioni.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advanced routing option X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:48:14 -0000 tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: > Tom Judge ha scritto: >> tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: >>> Tom Judge ha scritto: >>>> tonix (Antonio Nati) wrote: >>>>> I'm using FreeBSD and Monowall in the most of my servers. >>>>> >>>>> One limit I'm facing on both is the lack of an advanced routing >>>>> feature. >>>>> >>>>> Would be too complicated to modify "route" sources (and probably >>>>> kernel tables) implementing a FROM parameter in ADD command? >>>>> >>>>> route add 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.1 >>>>> route add FROM 200.1.1.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.10 >>>>> route add FROM 200.1.2.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.11.11 >>>>> >>>>> A FROM option would improve a lot routing capabilities and handling >>>>> of multiple WAN connections. >>>>> >>>>> Any comment? >>>>> >>>>> Tonino >>>>> >>>> >>>> If you wish to do this type of policy routing you need to use one of >>>> the firewalls as it can't be done in the routing table. PF can do >>>> this easily with its route-to option. >>>> >>> I feel it is more a routing feature than a fw feature. I don't see >>> extending routing tables (and relative routing checking) so complicated. >>> >>> Tonino >> >> It is not that it is not complicated. It is that it is _NOT_ >> _POSSIBLE_ to do this with the FreeBSD routing sub system. You _MUST_ >> do this with a firewall on FreeBSD. > Not possible with the ACTUAL routing subsystem, or not possible to > change the code to enhance the subsystem? I'm speaking about modifying > the code, if necessary. > > Tonino > Not possible with the current implementation, I don't know about how feasible it is to add the support you want either. You may want to ask on net@ to see if anyone there is actively working on this. However if you are looking for a quick solution you should go the firewall route. Tom From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 13:10:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2D116A468 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itguy.nepal@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s25.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s25.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CC213C4B3 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itguy.nepal@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU121-W38 ([10.6.24.73]) by bay0-omc1-s25.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:10:27 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [213.185.98.25] From: Amir Shrestha To: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:40:27 +0530 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2007 13:10:27.0028 (UTC) FILETIME=[6915E940:01C81708] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:20:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: brust using ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:10:27 -0000 Hi all, can we setup brust to ipfw if we do bandwidth manager using dummynet and ip= fw? Has anyone implement this?=20 Thanking you, IT guy _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=3D7+wonders+world&mkt=3Den-US&form=3DQ= BRE= From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 13:54:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A6F16A469 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usmanbsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web56414.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56414.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.111.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88AD913C4DB for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usmanbsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 5648 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Oct 2007 13:28:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=efuxtPmRhI70HbgP1sJ1TS7Ep3iivnNi59eznm0u63IPsGvCCYgeOdAY5jWcIgqW6K1v0Bip4fwkO+34rxcvnpxauL3UPWCgWtK52xTbq13LPjCnzr3dV4E28UFDqT1YRARzgmDu7HiL6jJ3webhItD4EBNBK8vQWhr0akK556g=; X-YMail-OSG: i33y9Y0VM1mD3XJQDd0LA29HgcCFe9Xww90xulSA57W5M1X9_j5vpm_Gvhj6872s7DsQEwmYZN5DmOqSYIQKcGj8uu2pWJlq4IPYYW71fYIP54oX3MPa84q2xxQ6.ZiZ9QHzGmjkN_i.rM.Z5IVm8AgXfsW0Kbe7yRkLTVmB614EpAVmbetOgBPrE_rgCXvymYbXMc1kf_vfyJ2q Received: from [202.38.50.7] by web56414.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:28:04 PDT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:28:04 -0700 (PDT) From: muhammad usman To: "tonix \(Antonio Nati\)" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <471F0422.5080800@interazioni.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <710999.5425.qm@web56414.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Advanced routing option X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:54:46 -0000 Even cisco dont have a that much simple solution for that , you need to use route-map in cisco. IPFW forward option can be used as well as PF. "tonix (Antonio Nati)" wrote: I'm using FreeBSD and Monowall in the most of my servers. One limit I'm facing on both is the lack of an advanced routing feature. Would be too complicated to modify "route" sources (and probably kernel tables) implementing a FROM parameter in ADD command? route add 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.1 route add FROM 200.1.1.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.10.10 route add FROM 200.1.2.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 210.10.11.11 A FROM option would improve a lot routing capabilities and handling of multiple WAN connections. Any comment? Tonino -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Inter@zioni Interazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it tonix@interazioni.it ------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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( [97.101.40.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d34sm4210758and.2007.10.26.15.25.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47226964.7060507@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:25:40 -0400 From: Sten Daniel Soersdal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amir Shrestha References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: different dns view X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:54:01 -0000 Amir Shrestha wrote: > hi all, > I have a domain abc.com hosting in US. Now i have setup abc.com.xx hosted in a particular country. Can i setup dns such a way that it could redirect all the request from that particular country to abc.com.xx when request is make to abc.com. > Please advice. > IT guy > This is relatively painlessly done in BIND ('named' in base system). The tricky part is figuring out what country the addresses come from. RIPE (at least) have an attribute called "country" for inetnum records but i don't think it is mandatory. Different ranges belong to different registrars except for a few. Be careful not to "spam" the whois services. -- Sten Daniel Soersdal From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 07:43:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6F016A41A for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vesku79@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44E413C48D for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vesku79@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so901496uge for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:43:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vlfgIVh1czuyRaCvIO77iYZQFkAUZA84P45ogSS2y6c=; b=fNfzdKlL2JJPwFMDDrdKjyynbcDzr8Ayus3PxNUUhOIUdftDp5QGCGKqxQAXgwx1QWxOlMT6lX1q5LnpuNVPvZfKQ38PU/xu2WL3LbHwQb4PcYuZm/Zz1v+kEngcbH8qkTvqfOqxh2TYFwAdDF3pMFJV9r08ru1f7vgxBQ3x2/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=So1WBQGmzvGPYM8f+wv9PX/YikL2XynyiQjHgpi+JeGYDPt+C/EodZkvWnexmgw6BgVOpKkH2g54G5TRIJXHxGdqf7XDrB9k38jiivY79OWDrr2f5OL4MDKa/5hmyuiSnoZbU3pAWqIrIBsqNyAwnbcv3B1MLzSnPMcl6XPWvmI= Received: by 10.67.25.14 with SMTP id c14mr2076041ugj.1193469549562; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ( [88.114.167.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z33sm2799348ikz.2007.10.27.00.19.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4722E66A.4070404@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:19:06 +0300 From: VA User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <47226964.7060507@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47226964.7060507@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: different dns view X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:43:35 -0000 >The tricky part is figuring out what country the addresses come from. >RIPE (at least) have an attribute called "country" for inetnum records but i don't think it is mandatory. >Different ranges belong to different registrars except for a few. I know people who have used GeoIP software for that (see ports). I've used more manual way with the ip-to-country list available on-line. I couldn't survive without country filtering these days :-) Depends on the services though. Useful with firewalls . VA