From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 11 08:48:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD79106564A for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:48:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreason@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D548FC20 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:48:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreason@fastmail.fm) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C6D3AFFB5 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web7.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.216]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:29:32 -0400 Received: by web7.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id BCCEF2B144; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:29:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1247300972.7362.1324546425@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: tRFtC0TiN0bs62LrHSY2sfkdQjGQYG1mdKagTptYGza5 1247300972 From: "V S P" To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:29:32 -0400 Subject: single image OS with multiple freebsd machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:48:02 -0000 Hi, new to the list came across of http://www.kerrighed.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Which a linux-based system that virtualizes individual machines into one cohesive OS so 4 machines with 4GB and 2 cpus each look to applications as one machine with 16GB and 8CPUs wanted to know if something similar is possible to do with freebd. This would completely eliminate a 'map-reduce'/hadoop type systems, in my mind thank you in advance -- Vlad P author of C++ ORM http://github.com/vladp/CppOrm/tree/master -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 11 20:05:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B07106566B for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreason@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6388FC15 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreason@fastmail.fm) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96933B042A for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web7.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.216]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:05:04 -0400 Received: by web7.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id A12961ADD1; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1247342704.20289.1324595713@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: iUMmgc8U+6l4ADM01z3FLnKchFD2uGXyq6r2UtOkGd5t 1247342704 From: "V S P" To: undisclosed-recipients:; Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface In-Reply-To: <4A58EEF5.4020502@elischer.org> References: <1247300972.7362.1324546425@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4A58EEF5.4020502@elischer.org> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:05:04 -0400 Subject: Re: single image OS with multiple freebsd machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:05:06 -0000 hi, I agree, and hoping that something like that is already out there especially given freebsd separation for virtual spaces/cpus for jail support it just the other way around adding resources 'back' into the pool After learning about kerrighed I am thinking that various hadoop/ map reduce systems and clustered database servers (when they are clustered for performance and not fault-tolerance) -- are really incorrect approaches for multi-machine parallelism --instead having it done by OS resources is really the right approach as it it basically tells application developer: " as long as you design your system to run concurrently on a single machine our OS will automatically scale it across more than one machine " this is very powerful -- and I was hoping something like this is also available in the BSD system. On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:58 -0700, "Julian Elischer" wrote: > V S P wrote: > > Hi, > > new to the list > > > > came across of > > http://www.kerrighed.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > > > Which a linux-based system that virtualizes individual machines > > into one cohesive OS so 4 machines with 4GB and 2 cpus each > > look to applications as one machine with 16GB and 8CPUs > > certainly looks interesting. > I believe it is no more nor less feasible on FreeBSD than Linux. -- Vlad P author of C++ ORM http://github.com/vladp/CppOrm/tree/master -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 11 20:11:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4D2106564A for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from outW.internet-mail-service.net (outw.internet-mail-service.net [216.240.47.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2675B8FC0C for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from idiom.com (mx0.idiom.com [216.240.32.160]) by out.internet-mail-service.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1624F27861; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:58:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (home.elischer.org [216.240.48.38]) by idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D4C2D6004; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A58EEF5.4020502@elischer.org> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:58:45 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: V S P References: <1247300972.7362.1324546425@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1247300972.7362.1324546425@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: single image OS with multiple freebsd machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:11:26 -0000 V S P wrote: > Hi, > new to the list > > came across of > http://www.kerrighed.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > Which a linux-based system that virtualizes individual machines > into one cohesive OS so 4 machines with 4GB and 2 cpus each > look to applications as one machine with 16GB and 8CPUs certainly looks interesting. I believe it is no more nor less feasible on FreeBSD than Linux. > > > > wanted to know if something similar is possible to do with freebd. > > This would completely eliminate a 'map-reduce'/hadoop type systems, > in my mind > > > thank you in advance From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 11 20:16:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2DB1065670 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:16:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from outL.internet-mail-service.net (outl.internet-mail-service.net [216.240.47.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673708FC0A for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:16:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from idiom.com (mx0.idiom.com [216.240.32.160]) by out.internet-mail-service.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31512301EE; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:05:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (home.elischer.org [216.240.48.38]) by idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C502D6014; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A58F0A2.4060008@elischer.org> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:05:54 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: V S P References: <1247300972.7362.1324546425@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1247300972.7362.1324546425@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: single image OS with multiple freebsd machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:16:26 -0000 V S P wrote: > Hi, > new to the list > > came across of > http://www.kerrighed.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > Which a linux-based system that virtualizes individual machines > into one cohesive OS so 4 machines with 4GB and 2 cpus each > look to applications as one machine with 16GB and 8CPUs I think that the DragonFlyBSD folk are looking at eventually doing this sort of thing as standard. At least Matt intimated that this was one of his original hopes for the project. > > > > wanted to know if something similar is possible to do with freebd. > > This would completely eliminate a 'map-reduce'/hadoop type systems, > in my mind > > > thank you in advance