From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 5 10:09:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499131065672; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from services.rulez.sk (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBD98FC0C; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2274C13344AA; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:09:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from services.rulez.sk ([92.240.234.125]) by localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VdwTF9n+qJcX; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.50.0.2] (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 18D6D133446E; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:09:20 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Fonvieille References: <4A4E27BE.9020909@FreeBSD.org> <4A4E56AE.50701@FreeBSD.org> <20090704075351.GA1095@gothic.blackend.org> <20090704095236.GA1097@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A4F349A.6000708@FreeBSD.org> <20090704130908.GA1094@gothic.blackend.org> <4A4F6E63.2030906@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4A4F6E63.2030906@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, "Simon L. Nielsen" , www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top navigation menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:09:28 -0000 Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >> Maybe one should test with Firefox 2.X and the KDE browser. > > FYI it works completely fine with Firefox 2.0.0.20. I also tested with latest Safari on OS X Leopard where it works okay. I have also been told that the KDE browser works w/o problems too. So do you guys have any objections against me committing it? -- S pozdravom / Best regards Daniel Gerzo, FreeBSD committer From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 5 11:22:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D642F106564A; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@nitro.dk) Received: from mx.nitro.dk (zarniwoop.nitro.dk [83.92.207.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909A68FC0C; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@nitro.dk) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (arthur.bofh [192.168.2.3]) by mx.nitro.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D416F2D4A64; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A61755C28; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:22:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:22:38 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Daniel Gerzo Message-ID: <20090705112238.GB1120@arthur.nitro.dk> References: <4A4E27BE.9020909@FreeBSD.org> <4A4E56AE.50701@FreeBSD.org> <20090704075351.GA1095@gothic.blackend.org> <20090704095236.GA1097@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A4F349A.6000708@FreeBSD.org> <20090704130908.GA1094@gothic.blackend.org> <4A4F6E63.2030906@FreeBSD.org> <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille , www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top navigation menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:22:40 -0000 On 2009.07.05 12:09:20 +0200, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Daniel Gerzo wrote: > > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > > >> Maybe one should test with Firefox 2.X and the KDE browser. > > > > FYI it works completely fine with Firefox 2.0.0.20. > > I also tested with latest Safari on OS X Leopard where it works okay. I > have also been told that the KDE browser works w/o problems too. > > So do you guys have any objections against me committing it? I just tried it in Firefox where the bullet points between the items show up - I think that's a regression as compared to the old vertical bars which are much less 'visually intrusive'. I don't really see the point with that change? I still think it must be possible to make it look a bit less "raw" (perhaps rounded boxes or something like that), but I think that can be done later, especially since I have no concreate suggets on improving that, if we can find someone with visual clue. Other than that (and the mouse over thing we talked about on IRC) I don't see any reason not to commit it. -- Simon L. Nielsen From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 5 12:32:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4066A1065670; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from services.rulez.sk (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E531C8FC12; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319A613344AA; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:32:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from services.rulez.sk ([92.240.234.125]) by localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r2hhFhDKy1xZ; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:32:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.50.0.2] (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D466133446E; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:32:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A509D65.4040303@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:32:37 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Simon L. Nielsen" References: <4A4E27BE.9020909@FreeBSD.org> <4A4E56AE.50701@FreeBSD.org> <20090704075351.GA1095@gothic.blackend.org> <20090704095236.GA1097@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A4F349A.6000708@FreeBSD.org> <20090704130908.GA1094@gothic.blackend.org> <4A4F6E63.2030906@FreeBSD.org> <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> <20090705112238.GB1120@arthur.nitro.dk> In-Reply-To: <20090705112238.GB1120@arthur.nitro.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille , www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top navigation menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:32:45 -0000 Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2009.07.05 12:09:20 +0200, Daniel Gerzo wrote: >> Daniel Gerzo wrote: >>> Marc Fonvieille wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe one should test with Firefox 2.X and the KDE browser. >>> FYI it works completely fine with Firefox 2.0.0.20. >> I also tested with latest Safari on OS X Leopard where it works okay. I >> have also been told that the KDE browser works w/o problems too. >> >> So do you guys have any objections against me committing it? > > I just tried it in Firefox where the bullet points between the items > show up - I think that's a regression as compared to the old vertical > bars which are much less 'visually intrusive'. I don't really see the > point with that change? Initially, I was trying with the gray bars, but later I have found out that the page renders badly[1] in IE6 with those. Therefore I decided to switch to bullets, which IMO look pretty nice in "modern" browsers and in IE6 they are not displayed at all, so a pretty good alternative. However, if you guys think the bullets look too 'visually intrusive', I am fine to switch back to gray bars (actually I already did to create tie IE6 screenshot, but it's a matter of two lines in css to swich back again :)) BTW the diff is at http://people.freebsd.org/~danger/menu.diff [1] http://danger.rulez.sk/ie6.png -- S pozdravom / Best regards Daniel Gerzo, FreeBSD committer From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 5 19:17:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE92106564A; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:17:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EC38FC0A; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n65JHE71059613; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:17:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n65JHVMt001201; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:17:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n65JHVm6001200; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:17:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:17:31 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Daniel Gerzo Message-ID: <20090705191731.GB1104@gothic.blackend.org> References: <4A4E27BE.9020909@FreeBSD.org> <4A4E56AE.50701@FreeBSD.org> <20090704075351.GA1095@gothic.blackend.org> <20090704095236.GA1097@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A4F349A.6000708@FreeBSD.org> <20090704130908.GA1094@gothic.blackend.org> <4A4F6E63.2030906@FreeBSD.org> <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> <20090705112238.GB1120@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A509D65.4040303@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A509D65.4040303@FreeBSD.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, "Simon L. Nielsen" , www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: top navigation menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:17:18 -0000 On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 02:32:37PM +0200, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > > On 2009.07.05 12:09:20 +0200, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > >> Daniel Gerzo wrote: > >>> Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >>> > >>>> Maybe one should test with Firefox 2.X and the KDE browser. > >>> FYI it works completely fine with Firefox 2.0.0.20. > >> I also tested with latest Safari on OS X Leopard where it works okay. I > >> have also been told that the KDE browser works w/o problems too. > >> > >> So do you guys have any objections against me committing it? > > > > I just tried it in Firefox where the bullet points between the items > > show up - I think that's a regression as compared to the old vertical > > bars which are much less 'visually intrusive'. I don't really see the > > point with that change? > > Initially, I was trying with the gray bars, but later I have found out > that the page renders badly[1] in IE6 with those. Therefore I decided to > switch to bullets, which IMO look pretty nice in "modern" browsers and > in IE6 they are not displayed at all, so a pretty good alternative. > > However, if you guys think the bullets look too 'visually intrusive', I > am fine to switch back to gray bars (actually I already did to create > tie IE6 screenshot, but it's a matter of two lines in css to swich back > again :)) > > BTW the diff is at http://people.freebsd.org/~danger/menu.diff > I'm also not really a fan of the bullets. If the problem existed in IE6 and no one complained, we should continue with the bars since the chance people yell about will reduce with time :) -- Marc From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 5 21:53:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93171065679; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCDE8FC22; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134F4EB517D; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:34:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE365450C6; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:34:17 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hY8iNfwBF1uM; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:34:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl139-187.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.10.187]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868224503F; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:34:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n65LYHeN044933; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:34:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n65LYHIT044920; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:34:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Daniel Gerzo References: <4A4E27BE.9020909@FreeBSD.org> <4A4E56AE.50701@FreeBSD.org> <20090704075351.GA1095@gothic.blackend.org> <20090704095236.GA1097@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A4F349A.6000708@FreeBSD.org> <20090704130908.GA1094@gothic.blackend.org> <4A4F6E63.2030906@FreeBSD.org> <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:34:17 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> (Daniel Gerzo's message of "Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:09:20 +0200") Message-ID: <87d48eke5i.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille , "Simon L. Nielsen" , www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: top navigation menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:54:00 -0000 On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:09:20 +0200, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > I also tested with latest Safari on OS X Leopard where it works okay. I > have also been told that the KDE browser works w/o problems too. > > So do you guys have any objections against me committing it? I'm not a great fan of things jumping out, so I can't say that I am overly excited about javascript menus. But don't let that hold you back. If you can "polish" the menus as Simon noted, then it's probably fine. The bullets stand out a bit too much, IMO, too. But "bullets vs. bars" is another case of bikeshed coloring, so it's not terribly important either. I am ambivalent about the "New to FreeBSD" vs. "Make Donation". They are both important, and it is a bit difficult to decide which one we should push more aggressively. From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 6 07:29:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FFA1065676; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from services.rulez.sk (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5F08FC0A; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:29:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB401334500; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:29:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from services.rulez.sk ([92.240.234.125]) by localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T7wjzG+DQGnU; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:29:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.50.0.2] (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B1F513344CB; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:29:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A51A7BA.8080904@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:28:58 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Fonvieille References: <4A4E27BE.9020909@FreeBSD.org> <4A4E56AE.50701@FreeBSD.org> <20090704075351.GA1095@gothic.blackend.org> <20090704095236.GA1097@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A4F349A.6000708@FreeBSD.org> <20090704130908.GA1094@gothic.blackend.org> <4A4F6E63.2030906@FreeBSD.org> <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> <20090705112238.GB1120@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A509D65.4040303@FreeBSD.org> <20090705191731.GB1104@gothic.blackend.org> In-Reply-To: <20090705191731.GB1104@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, "Simon L. Nielsen" , www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: top navigation menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:29:17 -0000 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > I'm also not really a fan of the bullets. If the problem existed in IE6 > and no one complained, we should continue with the bars since the chance > people yell about will reduce with time :) It actually is not broken on the current site. However I found a way to fix it and the latest version found at http://people.freebsd.org/~danger/FreeBSD/ is already fine in IE6 too. So I think nothing holds me now against not committing it. If anyone is interested in the diff, it can be found at http://people.freebsd.org/~danger/menu.diff -- S pozdravom / Best regards Daniel Gerzo, FreeBSD committer From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 6 07:31:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4635D1065672; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from services.rulez.sk (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB04D8FC1B; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0485E133453E; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:31:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from services.rulez.sk ([92.240.234.125]) by localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H7pn99GzgnEa; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:31:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.50.0.2] (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1CCE3133453D; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:31:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A51A852.8080906@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:31:30 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <4A4E27BE.9020909@FreeBSD.org> <4A4E56AE.50701@FreeBSD.org> <20090704075351.GA1095@gothic.blackend.org> <20090704095236.GA1097@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A4F349A.6000708@FreeBSD.org> <20090704130908.GA1094@gothic.blackend.org> <4A4F6E63.2030906@FreeBSD.org> <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> <87d48eke5i.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <87d48eke5i.fsf@kobe.laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille , "Simon L. Nielsen" , www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: top navigation menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:31:40 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > I'm not a great fan of things jumping out, so I can't say that I am > overly excited about javascript menus. But don't let that hold you > back. If you can "polish" the menus as Simon noted, then it's probably > fine. Note, that this implementation is javascript free, and it is done in pure CSS. As of polishing, I think someone with more design foo will be needed :) > The bullets stand out a bit too much, IMO, too. But "bullets vs. bars" > is another case of bikeshed coloring, so it's not terribly important > either. See my response to Marc. I switched back to bars and found a way to fix IE6 problem. Test with http://people.freebsd.org/~danger/FreeBSD/ > I am ambivalent about the "New to FreeBSD" vs. "Make Donation". They > are both important, and it is a bit difficult to decide which one we > should push more aggressively. I'm not sure about this one too. However we can postpone this change and make it later when you guys make a decision. The diff at http://people.freebsd.org/~danger/menu.diff doesn't include this change. -- S pozdravom / Best regards Daniel Gerzo, FreeBSD committer From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 6 08:52:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D844106566C for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidianwalker@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C138FC1B for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidianwalker@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1600652wfg.7 for ; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:52:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5EdESX1gIF10YbG2Mka1PZv2IiY8r0l2iopGBKLcQOg=; b=eAaSLQYRlk/769dl9K+NJg6YtaBNtYJ/Wi67xenzlptSV7KAjodhCmD0MsYo0NOhQU y5FypQsYiOUlvKBUWAUOlZKXkU105t6pcGMn7+oYPvCMZ4tS2hlsy+IeZXWyhqYgs3XF IKC4YUp8ZxXpkMfvjYiYSk4RzMt7N0mXaSYm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=kXzKO8+xecHRDjeVckNJnJBUOq2HOT4Y0lzDCVmL6zbuFeuXDzWnZIGKIu6RXFfTA/ rUITLEyGEi//Jfpu1VgnwbEaFyjABwNSpB9y1nOeet6jNvguOnlpmynbU/5x436Rxm61 nZhe4A/oOxSnlhuVZzVhWfYQwwCszt3w/GoFA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.193.13 with SMTP id q13mr1268403wff.240.1246868872934; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:57:52 +0930 Message-ID: From: David Walker To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Webserver down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:52:20 -0000 Bonjour. It looks very much like the webserver is down from here. Over an hour so far. I can talk to 69.147.83.40 fine including port 80 but although 69.147.83.33 will ping it doesn't appear to be serving webpages. I can't see anything on the archives at marc and I think they are reasonably current. Unusual. Best wishes. From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 6 09:10:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FAA1065672 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidianwalker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f193.google.com (mail-pz0-f193.google.com [209.85.222.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F27E8FC25 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidianwalker@gmail.com) Received: by pzk31 with SMTP id 31so2020013pzk.3 for ; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:10:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YY9UR/k+ENNt8QgP4iTjVEZse+Qnp+W9GiwibI8OnC8=; b=EbSi91Pe7XlLJ+3JIJc20a1xh8wG/Dp7BSfPyZsUM1Xbv/He5i11qkhnPMNvYO0j37 hiU27iMA4uXwetdBl9HU42dlEijCRkEJRihwo251Hoi4ZAHfovG2G10dum9qAJmixosI 5Ck544+a0JYV0ziaFD0T5lFH+j0vZm0RSnvo8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FuryHUTVzASfYnxvkT/UEti74uOOgyqeLhb7Y1/ccG1RFiqd3jL4ZwTVS9LH5PI1WF WN7eHVE1VzswjxV4iW3GxsY9bhlRM0P3+rOG+YODDc5GS6C78ejuAGDPh3p/DZfMHmNi /7yi8wjIZ6gFiwYlClXIEpKxdTsn2gN7dpFZc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.229.5 with SMTP id b5mr1409222wfh.314.1246871418169; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:10:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A51BCF6.9000907@FreeBSD.org> References: <4A51BCF6.9000907@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:40:18 +0930 Message-ID: From: David Walker To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Webserver down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:10:19 -0000 On 06/07/2009, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > David Walker wrote: >> Bonjour. >> >> It looks very much like the webserver is down from here. >> Over an hour so far. > > It's been down for a little time in the morning, but it's up again. > > -- > S pozdravom / Best regards > Daniel Gerzo, FreeBSD committer > Thanks Daniel. Yes it came up again a few minutes back. It must have been a hardware failure. :] Best wishes. From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 6 09:17:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2EB1065678 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from services.rulez.sk (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326E08FC14 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB09513344CB; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:59:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from services.rulez.sk ([92.240.234.125]) by localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rTMMT41-x1fF; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:59:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.50.0.2] (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0107213344AA; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:59:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A51BCF6.9000907@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:59:34 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Walker References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Webserver down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:17:59 -0000 David Walker wrote: > Bonjour. > > It looks very much like the webserver is down from here. > Over an hour so far. It's been down for a little time in the morning, but it's up again. -- S pozdravom / Best regards Daniel Gerzo, FreeBSD committer From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 6 11:07:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A151065678 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A398A8FC25 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n66B79b6010981 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:07:09 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n66B79rE010977 for freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:07:09 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:07:09 GMT Message-Id: <200907061107.n66B79rE010977@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:07:10 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o www/135465 www FreeBSD cvsweb reporting inaccurate logs? o www/135365 www Broken link in man.cgi o www/135294 www new user group for Belgium o www/133730 www amd64 motherboard success report: Asrock A770DE AMD7 o www/133262 www FreeBSD on ASUS M2N-MX SE + f www/132178 www Soekris not listed amoung hardware vendors o www/132149 www Problem with submitting emails to freebsd-questions@fr o www/132091 www russian freebsd copyright - wrong translation f www/131863 www Please add to Commercial Vendors listing o www/131493 www sshd(8) and sshd_config(8) on-line man pages outdated o www/130627 www Submission for www/en/platforms/amd64/motherboards.sgm f www/130340 www Submission for ISP page o www/129969 www Need 301 moved permanently errors returned for www.fre o www/129923 www Need stylesheet for FreeBSD Subversion DAV tree o www/129622 www amd64 motherboard - new board to add to the supported o www/129401 www FreeBSD Multimedia page should automatically pick up Y o www/129331 www Supported motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-DS2H o www/128943 www dmesg output for ASUS M3A79-T running FreeBSD-7.1-PRER o www/128113 www outdated port count graph in www.freebsd.org/ports o www/127497 www new entry to FreeBSD/amd64 Project -- motherboards f www/121391 www Please add us on the ISP pages... o www/116660 www docs.freebsd.org returns bad chunked encoding o www/116479 www cvsweb+enscript formatting bugfix s www/111791 www FreeBSD website messes up while using "links" browser o www/105333 www [patch] Base selection in events in libcommon.xsl does o www/103522 www Search interface oddity o www/98798 www Our statistics page is out of date o www/91539 www FreeBSD web site renders very badly s www/73551 www [request] fix list archive 'quoted-printable' corrupti o www/51135 www Problems with the mailing-lists search interface o www/44181 www www "Release Information" organization 31 problems total. From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 6 06:51:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB718106564A; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 06:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A678FC08; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 06:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1430363qwd.7 for ; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:51:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.80.78 with SMTP id s14mr1794921qck.101.1246861742476; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:29:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87d48eke5i.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <4A4E27BE.9020909@FreeBSD.org> <4A4E56AE.50701@FreeBSD.org> <20090704075351.GA1095@gothic.blackend.org> <20090704095236.GA1097@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A4F349A.6000708@FreeBSD.org> <20090704130908.GA1094@gothic.blackend.org> <4A4F6E63.2030906@FreeBSD.org> <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> <87d48eke5i.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:29:02 -0700 Message-ID: <2a7894eb0907052329r3c5ae37fk9c3a6c9b71d52456@mail.gmail.com> From: Murray Stokely To: Giorgos Keramidas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:18:10 +0000 Cc: doc@freebsd.org, "Simon L. Nielsen" , www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top navigation menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:51:20 -0000 I've been meaning to add similar javascript menus to the main page for 2 years, so I'm glad someone has implemented this. Another area on the main page that could really use this is the shortcuts menu. There should be a "more" link with a new popup with ~5 additional shortcuts there. These menus keep growing but they clutter the site so keeping them hidden behind a "more" link is a good compromise and is used by other large websites with lots of secondary pages to link to (e.g., google.com "more" link for other search properties) Things like the artwork page are far too minor to be represented in any way on the main page, but it is nice to link to the handbook, ports page, and other important second level pages more directly with these javascript menus. - Murray On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:09:20 +0200, Daniel Gerzo wro= te: >> I also tested with latest Safari on OS X Leopard where it works okay. I >> have also been told that the KDE browser works w/o problems too. >> >> So do you guys have any objections against me committing it? > > I'm not a great fan of things jumping out, so I can't say that I am > overly excited about javascript menus. =A0But don't let that hold you > back. =A0If you can "polish" the menus as Simon noted, then it's probably > fine. > > The bullets stand out a bit too much, IMO, too. =A0But "bullets vs. bars" > is another case of bikeshed coloring, so it's not terribly important > either. > > I am ambivalent about the "New to FreeBSD" vs. "Make Donation". =A0They > are both important, and it is a bit difficult to decide which one we > should push more aggressively. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 6 19:14:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737F91065670; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DF78FC15; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n66JEdnW071994; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:14:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n66JEv3Q001262; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:14:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n66JEvc6001261; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:14:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:14:57 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Daniel Gerzo Message-ID: <20090706191457.GB1094@gothic.blackend.org> References: <4A4E27BE.9020909@FreeBSD.org> <4A4E56AE.50701@FreeBSD.org> <20090704075351.GA1095@gothic.blackend.org> <20090704095236.GA1097@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A4F349A.6000708@FreeBSD.org> <20090704130908.GA1094@gothic.blackend.org> <4A4F6E63.2030906@FreeBSD.org> <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> <87d48eke5i.fsf@kobe.laptop> <4A51A852.8080906@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A51A852.8080906@FreeBSD.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, "Simon L. Nielsen" , www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: top navigation menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:14:45 -0000 On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 09:31:30AM +0200, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > I'm not a great fan of things jumping out, so I can't say that I am > > overly excited about javascript menus. But don't let that hold you > > back. If you can "polish" the menus as Simon noted, then it's probably > > fine. > > Note, that this implementation is javascript free, and it is done in > pure CSS. As of polishing, I think someone with more design foo will be > needed :) > > > The bullets stand out a bit too much, IMO, too. But "bullets vs. bars" > > is another case of bikeshed coloring, so it's not terribly important > > either. > > See my response to Marc. I switched back to bars and found a way to fix > IE6 problem. Test with http://people.freebsd.org/~danger/FreeBSD/ > > > I am ambivalent about the "New to FreeBSD" vs. "Make Donation". They > > are both important, and it is a bit difficult to decide which one we > > should push more aggressively. > > I'm not sure about this one too. However we can postpone this change and > make it later when you guys make a decision. The diff at > http://people.freebsd.org/~danger/menu.diff doesn't include this change. > The drop-down menus really add a plus to the homepage compared to the current version at http://www.freebsd.org/. The navigation is easier, IMHO, with these "new" menus. No one expressed a strong No, so maybe we should just commit the drop-down menus and let the rest ("New to FreeBSD" etc.) for a next talk. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 6 19:46:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2351065679; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777D78FC0A; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so6129566yxe.3 for ; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: murray@stokely.org Received: by 10.90.117.13 with SMTP id p13mr4477563agc.26.1246909559704; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090706191457.GB1094@gothic.blackend.org> References: <4A4E27BE.9020909@FreeBSD.org> <20090704075351.GA1095@gothic.blackend.org> <20090704095236.GA1097@arthur.nitro.dk> <4A4F349A.6000708@FreeBSD.org> <20090704130908.GA1094@gothic.blackend.org> <4A4F6E63.2030906@FreeBSD.org> <4A507BD0.8000509@FreeBSD.org> <87d48eke5i.fsf@kobe.laptop> <4A51A852.8080906@FreeBSD.org> <20090706191457.GB1094@gothic.blackend.org> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:45:59 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4a4fa0169ca4ef9d Message-ID: <2a7894eb0907061245x19e3a84yc59fba91a9aa403d@mail.gmail.com> From: Murray Stokely To: Marc Fonvieille Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: doc@freebsd.org, "Simon L. Nielsen" , www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top navigation menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:46:01 -0000 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Marc Fonvieille wrot= e: >> I'm not sure about this one too. However we can postpone this change and >> make it later when you guys make a decision. The diff at >> http://people.freebsd.org/~danger/menu.diff doesn't include this change. >> > > The drop-down menus really add a plus to the homepage compared to the > current version at http://www.freebsd.org/. =A0The navigation is easier, > IMHO, with these "new" menus. =A0No one expressed a strong No, so > maybe we should just commit the drop-down menus and let the rest ("New > to FreeBSD" etc.) for a next talk. Yes I would like to see them committed in some form. Thanks for adding these. 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