From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Oct 22 06:20:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA06698 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 06:20:56 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA06693 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 06:20:46 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA00320; Sun, 22 Oct 1995 22:40:48 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510221310.WAA00320@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Sony CDU-76S CDROM -- need SCSI command set (?) To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 22:40:47 +0930 (CST) Cc: cshenton@apollo.hq.nasa.gov, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510202352.QAA00968@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Oct 20, 95 04:52:57 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 776 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Julian Elischer stands accused of saying: > > SONY believe they know better.. > > so they didn't impliment the standard SCSI-2 audio commands > but used their own.. > > (I mean no-one uses these devices without BIOS support right?) Gee, and I nearly bought one of these, only the supplier couldn't get them. Instead, I have a Panasonic/Matsushita CR563B, which works _perfectly_. (Just FYR) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 02:41:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA29803 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 02:41:19 -0700 Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA29798 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 02:41:13 -0700 Received: from cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <12142-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:40:58 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id TAA13757 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:46:09 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id JAA20420 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 09:45:56 GMT Message-Id: <199510230945.JAA20420@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Functional differences between various 486 CPUs X-Face: $.-~&U=${N=I$&B~1:E6C8w`s2>*j3hV1j`KM@-toD:Z$o.,e4mfnKDpV1.WlHU}^O"3''L %N=8hj4%d.18rx5CP=d5NQW-`\gF97|$cY$?WZ8#|L]B5x]6z-I#g+cfSnOvoHzh-p,v~M[j4jt^$E G"@]fay-K8I@QkLCCC{kkmq'6?hMb"3Ww4"%R#~cRXN6sTI'Z)8c.5vk}KU\6|ms@Bzcte0e%6n:%. R{jW`&cUB_JtWbZ#u|W56lU&69/KhRcRJfR|*n.v\^W$}$kc Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've just laid hands on a cheap 33Mhz 486 motherboard to replace my 25MHz 386sx/387sx setup (yeah, well educating a kid, marriage problems & a mortgage tend to drain the supply of ready cash) and am hunting around for a CPU to put in it. So far I've seen the following - Clock Manu. Chip Price (Oz dollars, don't panic!) 66MHz IBM 486 $93 66MHz Intel 486 $199 100Mhz Intel 486 $264 100MHz AMD 486 $156 100MHz IBM 486 $145 Which ones are 5v and 3.5v, which 3.5v parts have the onboard regulator to allow using them in old motherboards like mine, and what differences are there in regard to cache & onboard maths copro presence? I'm lusting after one of the 100Mhz parts, but accept giving budget that I'll probably end up getting the 66MHz IBM unit iff it'll go in my 486 m'board and it has a math-copro. For the heat sensitive units, my case has a 15cm fan blowing over the motherboard. It's noisy enough and shifts a fair bit of air. Stephen -- I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 02:57:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA00319 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 02:57:33 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA00305 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 02:57:17 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA02490; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:22:42 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510230952.TAA02490@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Functional differences between various 486 CPUs To: sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au (Stephen Hocking) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:22:42 +0930 (CST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510230945.JAA20420@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> from "Stephen Hocking" at Oct 23, 95 07:45:56 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1880 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Hocking stands accused of saying: > > I've just laid hands on a cheap 33Mhz 486 motherboard to replace my 25MHz > 386sx/387sx setup (yeah, well educating a kid, marriage problems & a mortgage > tend to drain the supply of ready cash) and am hunting around for a CPU to put > in it. So far I've seen the following - > > Clock Manu. Chip Price (Oz dollars, don't panic!) > 66MHz IBM 486 $93 This is a Cyrix part; it should cost you $73 (Westan, 23% s/t, available in bot 5 and 3.45V flavours. You want the "486 DX2/66") > 66MHz Intel 486 $199 Don't bother. > 100MHz IBM 486 $145 Again a Cyrix part, not available in 5V. Your best bet for a 5V-only motherboard is possibly the 80MHz Cyrix part, at $80. (Westan, 23% s/t, "486 DX2/80") > Which ones are 5v and 3.5v, which 3.5v parts have the onboard regulator to > allow using them in old motherboards like mine, and what differences are there > in regard to cache & onboard maths copro presence? I've no specific details on the cachefulness or otherwise of the Cyrix parts; all I can say is that they seem to work perfectly well. 8) > I'm lusting after one of the 100Mhz parts, but accept giving budget that I'll > probably end up getting the 66MHz IBM unit iff it'll go in my 486 m'board and > it has a math-copro. For the heat sensitive units, my case has a 15cm fan > blowing over the motherboard. It's noisy enough and shifts a fair bit of air. The Cyrix parts are all fanless, as are the Intel DX4/100's. > Stephen -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 03:08:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA01480 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 03:08:46 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA01223 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 03:05:37 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA02530; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:30:55 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510231000.TAA02530@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Functional differences between various 486 CPUs To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:30:55 +0930 (CST) Cc: sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510230952.TAA02490@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Oct 23, 95 07:22:42 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1295 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Some points of fact I missed : > > 66MHz Intel 486 $199 This should cost you about $180. (based on dealer price + s/t) > > Which ones are 5v and 3.5v, which 3.5v parts have the onboard regulator to > > allow using them in old motherboards like mine, and what differences are there > > in regard to cache & onboard maths copro presence? > > I've no specific details on the cachefulness or otherwise of the Cyrix parts; > all I can say is that they seem to work perfectly well. 8) I should cover my butt here and point out that a number of Cyrix designs are known to have problems, however the DX2/66 and I _believe_ the DX2/80 parts were designed in conjunction with IBM Microelectronics, and were done 'right'. I have certainly used a large number of the DX50's and DX2/66's and never had any trouble with them. The DX2/80 part has always slipped into the cracks pricewise, and thus I've never used one. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 03:56:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA02902 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 03:56:42 -0700 Received: from pancake.remcomp.fr (root@pancake.remcomp.fr [194.51.30.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA02896 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 03:55:59 -0700 Received: from zapata.omnix.fr.org (zapata.omnix.fr.org [128.127.10.1]) by zapata.omnix.fr.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA04364; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 12:23:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 12:23:15 +0100 (MET) From: Didier Derny To: Stephen Hocking cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Functional differences between various 486 CPUs In-Reply-To: <199510230945.JAA20420@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi I found a nice 486 Motherboard for 125$ AL3 Acer Labs chip set Onboard 16550 + fast ide + parallel works fine with the AMD 486 DX4-120 (140$) I get 141000 dhrystone/secondes with FreeBSD 2.1-stable the price have been converted on the 1$ (US) = 5 FFR basis +---------------------+ | Didier Derny | | didier@omnix.fr.org | +---------------------+ On Mon, 23 Oct 1995, Stephen Hocking wrote: > I've just laid hands on a cheap 33Mhz 486 motherboard to replace my 25MHz > 386sx/387sx setup (yeah, well educating a kid, marriage problems & a mortgage > tend to drain the supply of ready cash) and am hunting around for a CPU to put > in it. So far I've seen the following - > > Clock Manu. Chip Price (Oz dollars, don't panic!) > 66MHz IBM 486 $93 > 66MHz Intel 486 $199 > 100Mhz Intel 486 $264 > 100MHz AMD 486 $156 > 100MHz IBM 486 $145 > > Which ones are 5v and 3.5v, which 3.5v parts have the onboard regulator to > allow using them in old motherboards like mine, and what differences are there > in regard to cache & onboard maths copro presence? > > I'm lusting after one of the 100Mhz parts, but accept giving budget that I'll > probably end up getting the 66MHz IBM unit iff it'll go in my 486 m'board and > it has a math-copro. For the heat sensitive units, my case has a 15cm fan > blowing over the motherboard. It's noisy enough and shifts a fair bit of air. > > Stephen > -- > > I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - > They don't pay me enough for that! > > > From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 05:32:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA05221 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 05:32:55 -0700 Received: from mail.id.net (kilroy.id.net [199.125.1.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA05214 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 05:32:51 -0700 Received: from hades.id.net (hades.id.net [199.125.1.12]) by mail.id.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA24807; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 08:32:51 -0400 From: Robert Shady Received: (rls@localhost) by hades.id.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA10356; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 08:37:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199510231237.IAA10356@hades.id.net> Subject: Re: Functional differences between various 486 CPUs To: didier@omnix.fr.org (Didier Derny) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 08:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Didier Derny" at Oct 23, 95 12:23:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 257 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I found a nice 486 Motherboard for 125$ > AL3 Acer Labs chip set Onboard 16550 + fast ide + parallel > works fine with the AMD 486 DX4-120 (140$) > I get 141000 dhrystone/secondes with FreeBSD 2.1-stable The DX4-120's are going for $100 here in the US. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 07:09:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA07605 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 07:09:01 -0700 Received: from persprog.com (root@persprog.com [204.215.255.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA07597 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 07:08:52 -0700 Received: from novell.persprog.com by persprog.com (8.6.9/4.10) id JAA27753; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 09:50:19 -0400 Received: from NOVELL/SpoolDir by novell.persprog.com (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 23 Oct 95 9:50:23 +0500 Received: from SpoolDir by NOVELL (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 23 Oct 95 9:50:07 +0500 From: "David Alderman" Organization: Personalized Programming, Inc. To: hardware@freebsd.org, sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 09:50:04 EST Subject: Re: Functional differences between various 486 CPUs X-Confirm-Reading-To: "David Alderman" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.21) Message-ID: <29CA614447@novell.persprog.com> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Please ignore my previous comments about IBM's 486 CPU's. Michael Smith's post is more up to date and informative. I had no idea that IBM was selling the Cyrix parts now. I was thinking of the old "Blue Lightning" line. ====================================== When philosophy conflicts with reality, choose reality. Dave Alderman -- dave@persprog.com ====================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 07:09:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA07654 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 07:09:54 -0700 Received: from persprog.com (root@persprog.com [204.215.255.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA07647 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 07:09:47 -0700 Received: from novell.persprog.com by persprog.com (8.6.9/4.10) id JAA27746; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 09:45:20 -0400 Received: from NOVELL/SpoolDir by novell.persprog.com (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 23 Oct 95 9:45:24 +0500 Received: from SpoolDir by NOVELL (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 23 Oct 95 9:45:00 +0500 From: "David Alderman" Organization: Personalized Programming, Inc. To: Stephen Hocking , hardware@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 09:44:54 EST Subject: Re: Functional differences between various 486 CPUs X-Confirm-Reading-To: "David Alderman" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.21) Message-ID: <29B4934728@novell.persprog.com> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Clock Manu. Chip Price (Oz dollars, don't panic!) > 66MHz IBM 486 $93 > 66MHz Intel 486 $199 > 100Mhz Intel 486 $264 > 100MHz AMD 486 $156 > 100MHz IBM 486 $145 > > Which ones are 5v and 3.5v, which 3.5v parts have the onboard regulator to > allow using them in old motherboards like mine, and what differences are there > in regard to cache & onboard maths copro presence? All currently manufactured AMD parts are 3.5 volts if I'm not mistaken (contact www.amd.com and browse around). IBM's line of processors do not have floating point units the last time I looked. I think it is safe to say that ANY 100Mhz part is 3.5 volt. There are some companies that take 3.5 volt parts and install them on a litlle circuit board with regulator that plugs into a 5V 486 socket. I don't know how good these are at running FreeBSD. Does anyone out there have any idea? ====================================== When philosophy conflicts with reality, choose reality. Dave Alderman -- dave@persprog.com ====================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 10:46:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA14890 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 10:46:40 -0700 Received: from pancake.remcomp.fr (root@pancake.remcomp.fr [194.51.30.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA14883 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 10:46:32 -0700 Received: from zapata.omnix.fr.org (zapata.omnix.fr.org [128.127.10.1]) by zapata.omnix.fr.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA04992 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:08:31 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:08:30 +0100 (MET) From: Didier Derny To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: SMC Boards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is the SMC EtherPower PCI working with FreeBSD 2.1-stable ? chipset SMC 8432BT Is the SMC EtherPower 10-100 working with FreeBSD 2.1-stable ? chipset SMC 9332 Thanks for your help +---------------------+ | Didier Derny | | didier@omnix.fr.org | +---------------------+ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 11:27:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA15753 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 11:27:21 -0700 Received: from mail1.digital.com (mail1.digital.com [204.123.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA15748 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 11:27:18 -0700 Received: from muggsy.lkg.dec.com by mail1.digital.com; (5.65 EXP 4/12/95 for V3.2/1.0/WV) id AA15200; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 11:03:40 -0700 Received: from whydos.lkg.dec.com by muggsy.lkg.dec.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) with SMTP id AA06666; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 14:03:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whydos.lkg.dec.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA03971; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 14:06:53 GMT Message-Id: <199510231406.OAA03971@whydos.lkg.dec.com> X-Authentication-Warning: whydos.lkg.dec.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Didier Derny Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMC Boards In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:08:30 +0100." X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5omega 10/6/94 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 14:06:52 +0000 From: Matt Thomas Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In , you wrote: > > Is the SMC EtherPower PCI working with FreeBSD 2.1-stable ? > chipset SMC 8432BT This should OK in the 2.1.0-951020-SNAP. I'm grabbing the snapshot to verify this... > Is the SMC EtherPower 10-100 working with FreeBSD 2.1-stable ? > chipset SMC 9332 Yep. Has been for a long time. Matt Thomas Internet: matt@lkg.dec.com 3am Software Foundry WWW URL: Westford, MA Disclaimer: Digital disavows all knowledge of this message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 23 14:08:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA28098 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 14:08:00 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA28077 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 14:07:51 -0700 Received: from ccunix (root@ccunix.ccu.edu.tw [140.123.3.5]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA03649 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 14:06:40 -0700 Received: from apollo.dorm.ccu.edu.tw (apollo.dorm.ccu.edu.tw [140.123.215.78]) by ccunix (8.6.12/8.6.12[SMI]) with SMTP id FAA15338 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 05:01:57 +0800 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 05:01:57 +0800 Message-Id: <199510232101.FAA15338@ccunix> X-Sender: u8243002@ccunix.ccu.edu.tw X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hardware@freebsd.org From: Huang Wei-Sheng Subject: Accton EN-1200 EISA EtherNet can use under FreeBSD ? Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, My dear friend: Can ACCTON EN-1200 EISA EtherCombo-32 use under FreeBSD ? It use National Semiconductor EISA ChipSet & PAL EISA ChipSet. I cannot control though lnc0, What should I do for this EISA EtherNet Card ? From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 03:32:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA03703 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 03:32:30 -0700 Received: from pancake.remcomp.fr (pancake.remcomp.fr [194.51.30.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA03682 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 03:31:33 -0700 Received: from zapata.omnix.fr.org (zapata.omnix.fr.org [128.127.10.1]) by zapata.omnix.fr.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA07377; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 12:24:53 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 12:24:53 +0100 (MET) From: Didier Derny To: Matt Thomas cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMC Boards In-Reply-To: <199510231406.OAA03971@whydos.lkg.dec.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk do you know the driver that support these boards ? thanks +---------------------+ | Didier Derny | | didier@omnix.fr.org | +---------------------+ On Mon, 23 Oct 1995, Matt Thomas wrote: > > In , you wrote: > > > > > Is the SMC EtherPower PCI working with FreeBSD 2.1-stable ? > > chipset SMC 8432BT > > This should OK in the 2.1.0-951020-SNAP. I'm grabbing the snapshot > to verify this... > > > Is the SMC EtherPower 10-100 working with FreeBSD 2.1-stable ? > > chipset SMC 9332 > > Yep. Has been for a long time. > > Matt Thomas Internet: matt@lkg.dec.com > 3am Software Foundry WWW URL: > Westford, MA Disclaimer: Digital disavows all knowledge > of this message > > From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 24 19:29:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA19773 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 19:29:51 -0700 Received: from gold.interlog.com (gold.interlog.com [198.53.145.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA19750 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 19:29:35 -0700 Received: from lotbiniere.interlog.com (lotbiniere.interlog.com [198.53.146.76]) by gold.interlog.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id WAA20399; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 22:29:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lotbiniere.interlog.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA02266; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:31:52 -0400 Message-Id: <199510250131.VAA02266@lotbiniere.interlog.com> X-Authentication-Warning: lotbiniere.interlog.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol From: "Michel Joly de Lotbiniere" Reply-to: "Michel Joly de Lotbiniere" Organization: Troglodytical Netdroids Excorporated To: Stephen Hocking cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Functional differences between various 486 CPUs In-reply-to: Message from Stephen Hocking of "Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:45:56 +1000." <199510230945.JAA20420@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:31:52 -0400 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I can't answer your question except in the case of the AMD 100MHz part: this is the 3.5 V part which I have, and I believe it would die a miserable death in a 5 V board. I certainly know nothing about the voltage converter sockets advertised, but given that they cost ~$30 Canadian, I'd stick that into a new low voltage m'board and go with the AMD 100MHz part. You will be pleasantly surprised by the performance you get. Not a Pentium, to be sure, but as quick as most of us need--unless you simply must drag-race computers (an understandable obsession, I suppose, in the dying years of a techno-crazy century). But, there is a "PC Chiplist" document (in several parts) posted at regular intervals to the comp.pc.ibm.hardware group (or whatever its go-for-barocco name is), and archived under that group at your nearest FAQ site. It will unveil the un-intel-igent truth about all these processors. Happy bit-blasting ========================= Michel Joly de Lotbiniere mjdl@interlog.com ========================= From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 25 02:32:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA06451 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 02:32:24 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA06414 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 02:31:51 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA07727 for hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:58:04 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510250928.SAA07727@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: IO check (only during savecore?!)\ To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:58:04 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 692 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Needless to say, this is _really_ annoying 8( I have to assume that this isn't something that lots of people see; can anyone out there using an Ultrastor 34F confirm that they can actually save their kernel core images? (and whereabouts in /etc/rc they put the 'dumpon' command? It's nowhere by default 8() -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 25 03:02:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA07432 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 03:02:44 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA07423 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 03:02:39 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA29500; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:01:43 +1000 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:01:43 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510251001.UAA29500@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: hardware@freebsd.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Subject: Re: IO check (only during savecore?!)\ Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Subject: IO check (only during savecore?!)\ >Needless to say, this is _really_ annoying 8( savecore just does a big read from a raw device. This has been known to expose bugs in both h/w and s/w. The U34F used to work. >(and whereabouts in /etc/rc they put the 'dumpon' command? It's nowhere >by default 8() It wasn't supported in rc or sysconfig in 2.0.5. It's in 2.1. Bruce From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 01:07:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA22327 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:07:03 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA22312 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:06:58 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA00230; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:06:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA00187; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:06:48 -0700 Message-Id: <199510260806.BAA00187@corbin.Root.COM> To: hardware@freebsd.org cc: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Subject: Asus PCI/I-P55SP4 motherboard From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:06:47 -0700 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone here have any experiance with the Asus PCI/I-P55SP4 motherboard? This is a new one that uses a new SiS chipset, supports up to 512MB of memory using 128MB SIMMs (do these exist yet??), pipeline burst cache, EDO RAM support, Pentium CPUs up to 167Mhz, etc. I'd like to hear from anyone with any experiance with this motherboard. I'm considering using it in wcarchive, and I'd like to know about performance and reliability. -DG From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 01:13:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA23382 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:13:12 -0700 Received: from NeXT.COM (next.com [129.18.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA23364 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:13:05 -0700 Received: from day by femail.NeXT.COM (NX5.67f1/NeXT0.1-Aleph (CST $Revision: 1.17 $ $State: Exp $ amm)) id AA16968; Thu, 26 Oct 95 01:12:27 -0700 From: Dan Grillo Message-Id: <9510260812.AA16968@femail.NeXT.COM> Received: by day.next.com (NX5.67f2/NX3.0X ($Revision: 1.11 $ $State: Exp $)) id AA06824; Thu, 26 Oct 95 01:12:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 01:12:24 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc. To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: patch for 3c589 pcmcia BNC? Cc: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Versions: dmail 2.0/makemail 2.8d Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I can't BNC to work with the zp driver in 2.0.5; UTP works fine. The hardware list archive has this "oh so close" mention of the problem; from where can I get this patch? Thanks. --Dan > Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 01:12:41 +0900 > To: schwarz@alpharel.com > Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, > hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp > Subject: Re: 3c589 pcmcia ethernet card does not work BNC > From: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) > > schwarz@alpharel.com writes: > >> When the Liberty is running 2.0.5 the zp0 device is probed fine, > >> and the ethernet address of the card is gotten just fine. But > >> nothing that tries to actually use the card succeeds in sending > >> or receiving any packets (as evidenced from running etherfind > >> on a Sparc SLC elsewhere on the network). > > I've posted a patch (but I can't test it) about this bug on > comp.unix.freebsd.misc a few weeks ago. I don't have it now because > my disk has been crashed after I posted it. Does anyone have it? > > -- > HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi E-mail: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp > WWW homepage: http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/hosokawa.html > Department of Computer Science, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan -- Dan Grillo dan_grillo@next.com 415 780-2963 Bldg 1, back, right side From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 04:06:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA02220 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 04:06:18 -0700 Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA02198 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 04:05:25 -0700 Received: from elvisti.kiev.ua (uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with UUCP id NAA27531 for hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 13:03:16 +0200 Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.33]) by spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) with ESMTP id MAA00298 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 12:48:03 +0200 Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id MAA16978 for hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 12:48:02 +0200 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199510261048.MAA16978@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: MOXA C104+ 4-port serial card -- runs good for me. To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 12:48:01 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1552 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello gentlemen, just now testing MOXA C104+ 4-port card. It has 4 STARTECH 16C550CP FIFO UARTS. Works good. I'll be surely recommending it to the people after it will work this good way at least for a month. Haven't tested it with SLIP or PPP yet, but it shouldn't be troubles, as the card itself is pretty simple and Taylor UUCP bidirectional 'i' protocol runs great. The card differs from AST-4 -- it has a separate interrupt register, which CANNOT be mapped to a scratch register of any of the UARTs. The switches on the board let you set IObase of the ports in the range of 0x100 .. 0x3c0 step 0x40; interrupt register can be set via separate switch to a value in a range 0x0 .. 0x3f0 step 0x10 and this way the card consumes _all_ additional 16 bytes of IO port space though only the 1-st byte is used for interrupt register. It seems to me they did it for their software' convenience and for compatibility with their "elder" boards (they have some 8 and 16 boards too, but I wasn't impressed after reading their specs. Opinions or experience?) I couldn't find a way to set where interrupt register lives using flags in sio.c without stupid hacking it (FreeBSD-2.0.5 from CD), and finally I threw this register somewhere to a "safe" unused place, and configured the MOXA card as BOCA card (told sio.c that interrupt register is not present at all). Could I solve this better? -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 "...Good marketing beats good technology, every time". True? From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 06:20:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA05882 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 06:20:46 -0700 Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA05872 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 06:20:43 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA04509; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 06:20:36 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199510261320.GAA04509@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Asus PCI/I-P55SP4 motherboard To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 06:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510260806.BAA00187@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Oct 26, 95 01:06:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1407 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Does anyone here have any experiance with the Asus PCI/I-P55SP4 motherboard? > This is a new one that uses a new SiS chipset, supports up to 512MB of memory > using 128MB SIMMs (do these exist yet??), pipeline burst cache, EDO RAM > support, Pentium CPUs up to 167Mhz, etc. Got one sitting right here... > I'd like to hear from anyone with any experiance with this motherboard. I'm > considering using it in wcarchive, and I'd like to know about performance and > reliability. It has run make world's with a 2940, a few card compatibility tests etc, looks to be okay. It is benchmarking slower than the PCI/I-P55TP4XE, but I suspect that is because the book says it will run the 100Mhz chip with 70nS memory, which means they stuffed a wait state in it. I need to get the Sis data books so I can tweak the BIOS values and know exactly what it is actually doing as there are about 12 memory timing parameters. I have not seen source on 128MB simms, and 64MB simms are still hard to find. Oh, and that board supports up to 200MHz chips per the 1.2 Errata sheet stuck in my manual, though ASUS is not stuffing the VRM socket in the board which means you can only go to 150Mhz (All chips faster than 150Mhz use a 2.9V VRM power source). -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 09:26:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA12220 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 09:26:19 -0700 Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (sri.MT.net [204.94.231.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA12204 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 09:26:16 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA01094; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:25:46 -0600 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 10:25:46 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199510261625.KAA01094@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Dan Grillo Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: patch for 3c589 pcmcia BNC? In-Reply-To: <9510260812.AA16968@femail.NeXT.COM> References: <9510260812.AA16968@femail.NeXT.COM> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I can't BNC to work with the zp driver in 2.0.5; UTP works fine. > > The hardware list archive has this "oh so close" mention of the > problem; from where can I get this patch? It's in both stable and current. You should be able to grab the sources from any system with those and copy it onto your system and rebuild the kernel. Either that or install the new SNAP Jordan is building when it's released. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 16:10:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA03358 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:10:29 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA03353 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:10:26 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA01472; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:10:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA00392; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:08:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199510262308.QAA00392@corbin.Root.COM> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Asus PCI/I-P55SP4 motherboard In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Oct 95 06:20:35 PDT." <199510261320.GAA04509@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:08:22 -0700 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> I'd like to hear from anyone with any experiance with this motherboard. I'm >> considering using it in wcarchive, and I'd like to know about performance and >> reliability. > >It has run make world's with a 2940, a few card compatibility tests etc, >looks to be okay. It is benchmarking slower than the PCI/I-P55TP4XE, but >I suspect that is because the book says it will run the 100Mhz chip with >70nS memory, which means they stuffed a wait state in it. I need to get >the Sis data books so I can tweak the BIOS values and know exactly what >it is actually doing as there are about 12 memory timing parameters. Can you be more precise about how much slower it is? Are we talking 2-3%, or are we talking 10-15+% slower? >Oh, and that board supports up to 200MHz chips per the 1.2 Errata sheet >stuck in my manual, though ASUS is not stuffing the VRM socket in the >board which means you can only go to 150Mhz (All chips faster than 150Mhz >use a 2.9V VRM power source). Hmmm...their Web page says it supports 167Mhz... -DG From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 16:37:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA04898 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:37:07 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA04884 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:37:04 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA01539 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:37:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA00448 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:34:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199510262334.QAA00448@corbin.Root.COM> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Asus WWW address From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 16:34:57 -0700 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've gotten a whole pile of requests for this, so here it is, their home page is at: http://www.asustek.asus.com.tw -DG From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 17:43:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA09217 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:43:57 -0700 Received: from narq.avian.org ([199.103.168.126]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA09207 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:43:48 -0700 Received: (from hobbit@localhost) by narq.avian.org (8.6.12/_H*) id TAA20292 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 19:02:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 19:02:08 -0400 From: *Hobbit* Message-Id: <199510262302.TAA20292@narq.avian.org> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: quick SB nit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The 2.0.5 CD release seems unable to see a panasonic/matsuSHITa cdrom drive plugged into an Acermagic S20 soundcard in "SB emulate mode". Looking at the sources [which I can do via ms-loss] I see that /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/ matcd/options.h has the base I/O ports for soundblasters in the port_hints[] array as 0x230 and 0x240 with a "ports SB can use" comment. This disagrees with the Acer config utility, which offers options for *0x220* and 0x240, and also disagrees with an Acer t.s. rep's assertion that 0x220 is THE default base port for ALL soundblasters and emulations thereof. Not 0x230. Would this explain why GENERIC is still unable to see the cdrom?? Sorry if this particular problem has been discovered and fixed long since and I just haven't read the right updated faq. I'd build a new kernel and test the theory, but I've got a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem here... _H* From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 17:47:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA09358 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:47:10 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA09345 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:47:05 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA00396; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:46:17 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510270046.RAA00396@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Asus WWW address To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 17:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510262334.QAA00448@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Oct 26, 95 04:34:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 203 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I've gotten a whole pile of requests for this, so here it is, their home > page is at: > > http://www.asustek.asus.com.tw this didn't work for me, but http://www.asus.com.tw/ did > > -DG > From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 18:45:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA12523 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 18:45:25 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA12518 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 18:45:21 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA12215; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:08:52 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510270138.LAA12215@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: quick SB nit To: hobbit@avian.org (*Hobbit*) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:08:51 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510262302.TAA20292@narq.avian.org> from "*Hobbit*" at Oct 26, 95 07:02:08 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1760 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk *Hobbit* stands accused of saying: > > The 2.0.5 CD release seems unable to see a panasonic/matsuSHITa cdrom drive > plugged into an Acermagic S20 soundcard in "SB emulate mode". Looking at the > sources [which I can do via ms-loss] I see that /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/ > matcd/options.h has the base I/O ports for soundblasters in the port_hints[] > array as 0x230 and 0x240 with a "ports SB can use" comment. You can override this list with a specific address using userconfig. > This disagrees with the Acer config utility, which offers options for *0x220* > and 0x240, and also disagrees with an Acer t.s. rep's assertion that 0x220 is > THE default base port for ALL soundblasters and emulations thereof. Not 0x230. The SB base port has nothing to do with the CD's I/O port. On some cards, the port is 0x10 higher than the soundcard base (eg. real SB cards), on others it may be elsewhere. > Would this explain why GENERIC is still unable to see the cdrom?? Sorry if > this particular problem has been discovered and fixed long since and I just > haven't read the right updated faq. I'd build a new kernel and test the > theory, but I've got a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem here... Tinker with the base address for the CD - with userconfig under 2.0.5R you still have the "probe" command, so you can prod around and see if you can find it. Good luck 8) > _H* -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 26 23:47:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA02665 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 23:47:56 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA02660 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 23:47:51 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA02120; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 23:47:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA00581; Thu, 26 Oct 1995 23:44:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199510270644.XAA00581@corbin.Root.COM> To: Julian Elischer cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Asus WWW address In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Oct 95 17:46:16 PDT." <199510270046.RAA00396@ref.tfs.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 23:44:47 -0700 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> >> I've gotten a whole pile of requests for this, so here it is, their home >> page is at: >> >> http://www.asustek.asus.com.tw >this didn't work for me, but >http://www.asus.com.tw/ >did Ooops, sorry about that. The URLs that seem to work: http://asustek.asus.com.tw -and- http://www.asus.com.tw I accidently combined these in my head. -DG From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 27 00:03:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA03320 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 00:03:47 -0700 Received: from escape.com (escape.com [198.6.71.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA03300 ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 00:03:40 -0700 Received: (from dima@localhost) by escape.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA13722; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 03:03:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 03:03:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dima (ELO)" To: hardware@freebsd.org cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Logitech Cordless Mouse Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="DAA12147.814777237/escape.com" Content-ID: Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --DAA12147.814777237/escape.com Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: --DAA12147.814777237/escape.com Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Return-Path: dima Received: (from dima@localhost) by escape.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA12139; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 03:00:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 03:00:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dima (ELO)" To: support@freebsd.org Subject: Logitech Cordless Mouse Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have Logitech Cordless mouse and when I start X11R6 sometimes it's stocked and sometimes it's working. But when I do reboot when it doesn't working, after reboot it works fine. And if I do another reboot it stock again. so it works every other time I reboot my system. Sounds strange but it's true :) Has anyone ever had similar problems? Dima. --DAA12147.814777237/escape.com-- From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 27 01:20:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA06576 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 01:20:17 -0700 Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA06563 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 01:20:06 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA05026; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 01:19:56 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199510270819.BAA05026@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Asus PCI/I-P55SP4 motherboard To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 01:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510262308.QAA00392@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Oct 26, 95 04:08:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2558 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > >> I'd like to hear from anyone with any experiance with this motherboard. I'm > >> considering using it in wcarchive, and I'd like to know about performance and > >> reliability. > > > >It has run make world's with a 2940, a few card compatibility tests etc, > >looks to be okay. It is benchmarking slower than the PCI/I-P55TP4XE, but > >I suspect that is because the book says it will run the 100Mhz chip with > >70nS memory, which means they stuffed a wait state in it. I need to get > >the Sis data books so I can tweak the BIOS values and know exactly what > >it is actually doing as there are about 12 memory timing parameters. > > Can you be more precise about how much slower it is? Are we talking 2-3%, > or are we talking 10-15+% slower? You talking a wait state, so 10% is about what I have seen so far. I have a very small amount of data at this time, but that is what it says. > >Oh, and that board supports up to 200MHz chips per the 1.2 Errata sheet > >stuck in my manual, though ASUS is not stuffing the VRM socket in the > >board which means you can only go to 150Mhz (All chips faster than 150Mhz > >use a 2.9V VRM power source). ^^^^ My error here, VRM is 2.5V. > > Hmmm...their Web page says it supports 167Mhz... ASUS web pages are created way before real product happens, and they never seem to update them. My data on ASUS is 2x to 4x more accurate than the web site, as I deal with _real_ product day in day out. Another part of the errata I didn't notice when repling to you but noted later was ``the VRM connector is an optional item at this time as VRM's are expensive and not expected to be avaliable until 2H 1996''. I take this with a grain of salt and add the comment ``P6 starts shipping Q1/Q2 1996, sounds like VRM P54 chips are going to be another P24T story and something we should not count on. I will also add a hard cold fact, ALL Pentium chips with the core running above 100Mhz are _seriously_ restricted by the cache to cpu bandwidth, so unless you have things that run out of the internal cache for reasonable lengths of times these chips are a waste of time. Pipeline Burst cache modules help a lot, infact a 100Mhz chip with a PB cache will run a make world faster than a 133Mhz chip with an async cache. If you have some specific tests you would like to run on the ASUS PCI/I-P55SP4 board please feel free to contact me. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 27 09:24:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA29378 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 09:24:29 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA29365 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 09:24:25 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id CAA20908; Sat, 28 Oct 1995 02:22:13 +1000 Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 02:22:13 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510271622.CAA20908@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: hardware@freebsd.org, stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua Subject: Re: MOXA C104+ 4-port serial card -- runs good for me. Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I couldn't find a way to set where interrupt register lives using >flags in sio.c without stupid hacking it (FreeBSD-2.0.5 from CD), >and finally I threw this register somewhere to a "safe" unused place, >and configured the MOXA card as BOCA >card (told sio.c that interrupt register is not present at all). >Could I solve this better? You solved it right. BOCA cards have an interrupt register too, but it isn't used because no one has written the code to use it and using it would be unportable. Not using the interrupt register costs about 20 usec per interrupt to poll all the ports. Bruce From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 27 09:44:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA00939 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 09:44:37 -0700 Received: from storm.dgii.com (storm.dgii.com [199.86.5.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA00932 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 09:44:35 -0700 Received: (from keng@localhost) by storm.dgii.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA06379 for hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:42:55 -0500 From: Ken Germann Message-Id: <199510271642.LAA06379@storm.dgii.com> Subject: Digi Drivers... To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:42:55 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 318 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Can someone post the location of the Digi drivers so I can get some billing for Digi and FreeBSD on our FTP and WEB servers. -- Ken Germann Applications Specialist (612)943-0578 Voice keng@dgii.com Digi International, Inc. (612)943-0579 Fax "Chance favors the prepared mind." (612)943-0573 Faxback From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 27 12:50:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA15926 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 12:50:20 -0700 Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA15876 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 12:49:39 -0700 Received: from elvisti.kiev.ua (uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with UUCP id VAA14965 for hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:48:37 +0200 Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.33]) by spider2.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) with ESMTP id VAA01165 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:27:52 +0200 Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id VAA09270; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:27:51 +0200 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199510271927.VAA09270@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: MOXA C104+ 4-port serial card -- runs good for me. To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:27:50 +0200 (EET) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510271622.CAA20908@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Oct 28, 95 02:22:13 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1152 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk # # >I couldn't find a way to set where interrupt register lives using # >flags in sio.c without stupid hacking it (FreeBSD-2.0.5 from CD), # >and finally I threw this register somewhere to a "safe" unused place, # >and configured the MOXA card as BOCA # >card (told sio.c that interrupt register is not present at all). # >Could I solve this better? # # You solved it right. BOCA cards have an interrupt register too, but # it isn't used because no one has written the code to use it and # using it would be unportable. Not using the interrupt register # costs about 20 usec per interrupt to poll all the ports. # What will be a Good Official Way of making sio.c smart about the location of the interrupt register (and this way generalizing support for MOXA, AST-4, ARNET-8, BOCA boards -- each have one but at different or tunable location)? What about two upper bytes of device flags in config file with zero value means interrupt register is _really_ missed? # Bruce # -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 "...Good marketing beats good technology, every time". True? From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 27 16:25:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA29276 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:25:27 -0700 Received: from pop.znet.com (pop.znet.com [206.43.105.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA29255 ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:25:21 -0700 From: peterg@znet.com Received: from 165.227.40.28 (by pop.znet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1-jjb) with SMTP id QAA01739; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199510272325.QAA01739@pop.znet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems Booting With EIDE Controller To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Help! I'm having problems booting up on a system with FreeBSD installed on a EIDE controller. The system is configured as: EIDE Controller 1.2GB Hard Drive (Drive #1) FreeBSD Slice (500MB) with 3 partitions (/ - 20MB, /usr - 440MB, swap - 60MB) The problems are the following: - I've installed BootMgr, and when I select the FreeBSD slice to boot off of, I get the boot prompt, but can't do anything else. I get a prompt (|) but the system locks up. - If I go to re-install, I see that the FreeBSD slice is still around and the partitions have their original allocation. But, the installer doesn't see the mountpoints in any of the partitions. What's wrong? Will FreeBSD work on a drive >528MB? From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 27 23:26:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA16667 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 23:26:20 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA16656 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 1995 23:26:15 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA18121; Sat, 28 Oct 1995 16:19:25 +1000 Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 16:19:25 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510280619.QAA18121@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua Subject: Re: MOXA C104+ 4-port serial card -- runs good for me. Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ># You solved it right. BOCA cards have an interrupt register too, but ># it isn't used because no one has written the code to use it and ># using it would be unportable. Not using the interrupt register ># costs about 20 usec per interrupt to poll all the ports. ># > What will be a Good Official Way of making sio.c smart > about the location of the interrupt register > (and this way generalizing support for MOXA, AST-4, ARNET-8, > BOCA boards -- each have one but at different > or tunable location)? There isn't one. There is no code to support interrupt registers. For the AST, there is code to handle AST's (in)compatibility register. The compatibility register just happens to have the same address as the interrupt register. Bruce