From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 16 11:25:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04510 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04501 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (root@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA21190 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:25:36 -0700 Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA32657; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 10:15:12 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 10:57:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: iap@vma.cc.nd.edu cc: linuxisp@lightning.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trade Association for ISP's? (fwd) Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:11:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Tony Schreiber Reply-To: inet-access@earth.com To: inet-access@earth.com Subject: Re: Trade Association for ISP's? Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 10:17:15 -0500 (CDT) Resent-From: inet-access@earth.com > >And can you believe that the 2,500 ISP's don't even have a trade > >association? While their opponents, like telcos and cablecos spend > >millions on lobbiests. We're one of the founding members of FISPA, the (guess) Florida Internet Service Provdier Association. The first general assembly meeting is this July. If any one wants to contact those involved in the creation of this, let me know and I can post the Board Members. |=====================================| |Tony Schreiber, Creative Director | |TheNet Digital Services, Inc. | |email: dune@thenet.net | |http://www.thenet.net/~dune | |=====================================| From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 16 19:43:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA06314 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06296 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ecpi.com (ecpi.com [205.238.159.50]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA24658 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tushar@localhost) by ecpi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA12605 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 21:46:39 GMT From: Tushar Patel Message-Id: <199606162146.VAA12605@ecpi.com> Subject: ppp problem To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 21:46:39 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have following message in my ppp.log file, I don't understand what this really means. I never used to get this message before. The "write: No such process" is showing up every 2 to 3 "Packet mode enabled". Should I be concern? Can anybody tell me what is going on? RecvEchoReq: his magic is bad!! RecvEchoReq: his magic is bad!! Packet mode enabled Packet mode enabled write: No such process Packet mode enabled Thanks, Tushar From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 17 05:29:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA14433 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 05:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tommie.ngonet.be (tommie.ngonet.be [193.190.166.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA14012; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 05:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from koekiemonster.ngonet.be (koekiemonster.ngonet.be [193.190.166.75]) by tommie.ngonet.be (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA06600; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:20:53 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <31C54D96.2B3D@ngonet.be> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:20:38 +0200 From: Gunter Loos Organization: NgoNet Brussels Belgium X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP dial back? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to myself and some lists (and 14 days of hard labour :-) I've gotten my dial-in connections to a freebsd box to work. More or less, I didn't figure everything out yet. Like in: how do I make dial back connections? Separate accounts? ? what *is* the best way to connect customers (using user ppp; should I give everybody an account, or use just one and pap)? I'm still getting some errors now and then: SIOCAIFADDR: File exists, but concerning what interface? and why? And does anyone know *where* all the options for ppp are described (in the RFC?) I've read everything I could find, but some things remain vague. Perhaps someone should work on a more extensive documentation. When I've got time.. Anyone? (And thanks in advance! :-) Gul -- . .__ . |Nationaal Centrum voor OntwikkelingsSamenwerking vzw, NgoNet _| _ [ __ | |Voice Gunter.Loos@+32 2 5392620 Fax +32 2 5391343 (_](/, [_./(_|| |mailto:gul@ngonet.be "You are all weirdos." - Sam the Eagle ----MijnEigenWoordenNietVanIemandAnders - MyOwnExpressionsNotSomeoneElses---- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 17 12:00:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19613 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from only.justcompute.com ([208.128.131.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19599 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BBS.justcompute.com (bbs.justcompute.com [208.128.131.2]) by only.justcompute.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA09190 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:03:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199606171903.PAA09190@only.justcompute.com> Received: from [208.128.131.109] by BBS.justcompute.com id 77640.wrk; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:59:08 EDT From: "Chris Lavin" To: Subject: Help!!! WIth A weirdo situation Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:55:47 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1085 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to do something Kinda weird!!!!!! I am basically trying to use >four modems on my BSD machine as basically com server ports. I want the >BSSD machine to answer the modem establish a connection then automatically >telnet the user to aremote system. I DON'T want it to ask for a login or >ever show a login prompt!! Anyone have any ideas? Thanx.....Chris From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 17 21:06:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA23060 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avalon.imagixx.net (root@avalon.imagixx.net [206.31.232.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA23053 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [206.31.232.10] (mgb.imagixx.net [206.31.232.10]) by avalon.imagixx.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA04460 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:00:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:00:05 -0400 X-Sender: bayerle@avalon.imagixx.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: bayerle@auidea.org (Martin G. Bayerle) Subject: ISP Trade Association Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To all Internet Service Providers: Organizations which address the technical issues of internet service such as protocols and technological standards, have existed for some time, but none yet exist to address the business issues which confront the small to medium-sized Internet Service Provider. The business environment for Internet Service Providers is increasingly volatile; for the smallest ISPs, it is even hostile. In the months ahead we will see mergers, acquisitions, scalebacks, and even bankruptcies as the industry sheds itself of its weakest players, those who are least able to provide the consumer with competitive services at reasonable prices. The challenges which face the smaller ISPs include their inability to provide their customers with worldwide access, their relatively weak promotional capabilities, and their inability to gather timely and accurate business-related information, such as economic and market data, which could assist them with outside financing and strategic planning decisions. The Internet Development and Exchange Association's (IDEA) mission is to meet these challenges, and others, which now confront the ISP industry. 1. If this e-mail is misdirected and you are not an ISP, for statistical survey purposes, could you please return e-mail with only the following in the message body: "I am NOT an ISP" and accept our apologies. IDEA is a representative body staffed and managed by business professionals and academicians, with a membership comprised of independent owner/operators within the Internet Service Provider industry. We ask all of you to participate in our first annual survey of small to mid-sized local and regional Internet Service Providers - for mutual benefit. For additional information about IDEA, its goals, its services, and its creators see the Association homepage at http://www.auidea.org . Our overall inquiry actually concerns two surveys. The first survey is a relatively short questionnaire called the State of the Industry Executive Opinion Survey (which should take you approximately 10 minutes to complete). It is designed to help us assess the mood of the industry. What are the most important business issues confronting the small to medium-sized ISP and how can an association address these issues? An Executive Summary of this survey will be made freely available at our website http://www auidea.org . The second survey is longer, but more critical, than the first (and should take you approximately 25 minutes to complete). This survey, which we call the Day One Survey, is a benchmark study of the Internet Service Provider industry. This survey is designed to help provide answers to many of the questions frequently posed by bankers and other investors. Where does your firm stand with respect to the rest of the industry? This comparison between your ISP and the industry can be made on many levels. For many of these comparisons, no reliable statistics are currently available. Banks and investors usually equate lack of information with risk so we hope that providing sound financial information for comparative purposes will help them lower their risk and increase their willingness to invest in measurably sound ventures. Also, lack of comparative information makes it impossible for you to make fully informed strategic decisions. After all, the technology is only half of what ISPs need to know - ISPs also need to be aware of the market and economic conditions that determine the viability of the investment. Your survey participation and specific data will be held in absolute trust and confidence. The survey's results, however, are essential for industry growth as well as your company's short and long-term planning. You may choose to participate in either or both surveys. For reasons of fairness, those ISPs who choose to participate in BOTH surveys will receive a complete copy of "The ISP Report:1996" AT NO COST via ftp (the complete details of this offer are stipulated within the survey). For anyone who chooses not to participate in the survey, but who would like to examine the results of the survey, "The ISP Report:1996," will be available for sale from the Internet Development and Exchange Association. Although the selling price of the finished report has not yet been determined, comparable industry analyses often sell for several thousand dollars. However, an Executive Summary will be made publicly available at no charge at our website http://www.auidea.org . 2. If you are an ISP and wish to participate in the survey, you can do so one of two ways: a. by sending an e-mail to survey@auidea.org for an autoresponder of both surveys; or b. by completing the surveys on-line at our website http://www.auidea.org , and accept our thanks and the thanks of many other ISPs for your participation. Please note that the State of the Industry Executive Opinion Survey and the Day One Survey are both available via either e-mail or our web site. If you request the surveys via e-mail, a copy of both surveys will be returned to you as two separate e-mails by our autoresponder. The instructions for both are contained within the introduction to the State of the Industry Executive Opinion Survey. Each of the two surveys is approximately 20k. You may choose to complete and submit either one or both surveys. If you are an ISP and you complete BOTH surveys you will be entitled to a complete copy of "The ISP Report:1996" at no charge. 3. If you are an ISP but do NOT wish to participate in the survey, for statistical purposes, could you please return e-mail with only the following in the message body: "I AM an ISP but do not wish to participate in the survey." and accept our thanks for enabling us to increase the statistical accuracy of the survey. Sincerely yours, Lutfus Sayeed, PhD Survey Project Director Assistant Professor of Management Information Systems West Virginia University Martin G. Bayerle, MBA Executive Director, IDEA bayerle@auidea.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMcXzdDbYzhQwFkNZAQETUwP/Rdp3n+6yrSjFVdUBSiW3vSMx5B27izzO ed2hYXciocQ9mfew/B4SXioLdSeo8/iU0osUTuQPctZjoYUKrE7JYbAFeOqdY+mY S997sOB0qJhjSQD8d1cZvoGsFFVNMKJvtkDXuv5nvptKf2CUcyHTWYIeK+tYwUhk oqPEIT2Epf8= =89PY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 17 21:29:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA24648 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mnemosyne.muse.com.au (router.muse.com.au [203.26.7.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA24640 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from www@localhost) by mnemosyne.muse.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA07079; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:29:48 +1000 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:29:48 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Beyer To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Housing domains. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Warning! Newbie quetion! I want to set up a virtual server under a domain other than my own. We've registered the name, and I know we've got to alert the secondary to secondary our entry, but beyond that I don't know how to set things up at my end. I've given them one of my names (name.mydomain) to map their domain to, and setting up the http server isn't any problems. Problem - how do I set up my named.boot and theirdomain.hosts theirdoman.local theirdomain.rev and sendmail configurations. I know it's a big ask, but if anyone can point me to on-line tutorials etc, I'd be eternally greatful. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Richard. .......................................................................... Muse Productions P/L If you could be as life to me WWW : http://www.muse.com.au/ And I your love be death Email : inspired@muse.com.au A kiss would serve to set you free Phone : +61 03 347098 And steal your final breath Fax : +61 03 347270 .......................................................................... From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 17 22:21:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA29261 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from portal.spi.net ([199.238.225.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA29254 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@MindBender.HeadCandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by portal.spi.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA23757; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:21:17 -0700 Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA12843; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606180521.WAA12843@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Richard Beyer cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Housing domains. In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 18 Jun 96 14:29:48 +1000. Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:21:12 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Problem - how do I set up my named.boot and theirdomain.hosts >theirdoman.local theirdomain.rev and sendmail configurations. Get the DNS/BIND book from O'Reilly: http://www.ora.com/. You can find them at better bookstores, too. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 02:56:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA14120 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tommie.ngonet.be (tommie.ngonet.be [193.190.166.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA13964 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from koekiemonster.ngonet.be (koekiemonster.ngonet.be [193.190.166.75]) by tommie.ngonet.be (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA00554; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:47:20 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <31C67B15.24D2@ngonet.be> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:47:01 +0200 From: Gunter Loos Organization: NgoNet Brussels Belgium X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List , Linux ISP Mailing List , Linux Servers Mailing List Subject: PPP callback Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hiya all, is it good practice to set up a ppp dial back account as follows: o first make a regular account, that triggers a script o this script takes control of a modem, and calls back to a certain number o the user then has to configure its machine to handle the incoming connection? Can anyone point me to a source for info on this subject, or has anyone done it his/herself? I'm using user ppp, with mgetty on a FreeBSD-box (but I think the os is irrelevant here). Tricky things are (I think) how to control the modem, and how to _give_ a login prompt to the dial-out line.. Thanks in advance, Gul -- . .__ . |Nationaal Centrum voor OntwikkelingsSamenwerking vzw, NgoNet _| _ [ __ | |Voice Gunter.Loos@+32 2 5392620 Fax +32 2 5391343 (_](/, [_./(_|| |mailto:gul@ngonet.be "You are all weirdos." - Sam the Eagle ----MijnEigenWoordenNietVanIemandAnders - MyOwnExpressionsNotSomeoneElses---- From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 04:12:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA18549 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 04:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from presence.lglobal.com (root@presence.lglobal.com [204.50.121.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA18540 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 04:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from presence.lglobal.com (drop@presence.lglobal.com [204.50.121.2]) by presence.lglobal.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA24358; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:54:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:54:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Colin Ryan To: Richard Beyer cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Housing domains. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Richard Beyer wrote: > Warning! Newbie quetion! > > I want to set up a virtual server under a domain other than my own. > We've registered the name, and I know we've got to alert the secondary to > secondary our entry The secondary should automatically pick up the changes when the configuration of the primary is changed and sighupped , No? but beyond that I don't know how to set things up at > my end. > > I've given them one of my names (name.mydomain) to map their domain to, > and setting up the http server isn't any problems. > > Problem - how do I set up my named.boot and theirdomain.hosts > theirdoman.local theirdomain.rev and sendmail configurations. It's no big deal. Remember domain nameing and the IP used are essentially independant. Just tell the manager of the domain what IP address you've assigned the virtual host to and what you've called it. Since you are not the admin. for the domain that's all you can do anyhow. He/she will just make regular entries on the appropriate files but pointing to your IP instead of one of there's. > I know it's a big ask, but if anyone can point me to on-line tutorials > etc, I'd be eternally greatful. > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers, > > Richard. > > .......................................................................... > Muse Productions P/L If you could be as life to me > WWW : http://www.muse.com.au/ And I your love be death > Email : inspired@muse.com.au A kiss would serve to set you free > Phone : +61 03 347098 And steal your final breath > Fax : +61 03 347270 > .......................................................................... > > > > -------------------------------\\|!|//------------------------------- | Colin P. Ryan \!/ Cyber- | | Local GlobalAccess Inc.....More than Just a Provider! Rights | | 320 1/2 Bloor St. W. Toronto. ON NOW !! | | e:drop@lglobal.com Phone: (416)515-7400| --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 05:54:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23240 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 05:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gds.de (ns.gds.de [194.77.222.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA23182 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 05:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.gds.de (pluto.gds.de [194.77.222.13]) by gds.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA19291 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:47:19 GMT Message-Id: <199606181447.OAA19291@gds.de> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Richard Gresek" Organization: GRESEK DATA SYSTEMS To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:54:17 +0000 Subject: Appletalk-Router Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Halo, does anybody know some apple-talk-router for unix other than 'uar'? 'uar' from 'Columbia AppleTalk Package' runs well on FreeBSD but on my box I need a second network-card to run uar since I am using netatalk and I did not manage to make them run together on the same interface. Now, I am looking for something similar like 'uar' that I could use on the same interface that is also used by netatalk. I will be happy for any suggestions. Thanks in advance! Richard Gresek PS: I someone knows, why uar and netatalk do not run on the same interface and what could be done to make them run on one card, would be also a solution to me. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 07:52:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA01087 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (root@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA01077 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id HAA19418; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:08:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:51:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: Richard Beyer cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Housing domains. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Richard Beyer wrote: > I know it's a big ask, but if anyone can point me to on-line tutorials > etc, I'd be eternally greatful. You can find lots of ISP stuff at http://www.amazing.com/internet and I know the sendmail virtual domain config is explained at http://www.mtiweb.com/isp Michael Dillon ISP & Internet Consulting Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 09:14:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06815 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aebeard.technion.ac.il (root@aebeard.technion.ac.il [132.68.146.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06804 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by aebeard.technion.ac.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03409; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:14:48 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:14:48 +0300 (IDT) From: Yuri Gindin To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: building a gateway Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm trying to build a gateway from FreeBSD-2.1.0 I compiled kernel with options GATEWAY and enabled net.inet.ip.forwarding=1. 194.90.141.2 <----> 194.90.141.30 gateway 194.90.140.30 <---> 194.90.140.0 >From 141.2 I can ping both 141.30 and 140.30 but not the net 194.90.140.0 I also started routed with routed -s flag. Maybe I missing route from 141.30 to localhost and from 140.30 to localhost, or something else ? Thanks in advance . --Yuri. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 09:53:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA09059 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from radio.nwpros.com (nwpros.com [205.229.128.214]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09054 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rickbox.nwpros.com (rickbox.nwpros.com [205.229.128.217]) by radio.nwpros.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA03148 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:59:38 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960618170611.00698204@nwpros.com> X-Sender: rickg@nwpros.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:06:11 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Rick Gray Subject: /etc/daily Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It's me again. I've been getting this error message of not having the cleaning of / in /etc/daily enabled. How do you enable it? I've looked at /etc/daily and still confused. BTW--what exactly does this do? I'm running FBSD 201R in case you're interested.... :-) Thanks! ************************************************ Rick Gray Director of Internet Services Network Pros, Inc. rickg@nwpros.com "It is a good day to die." ----Klingon Philosophy ************************************************ From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 11:26:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15282 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com ([206.26.1.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15274 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com (daemon@localhost) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id NAA20162 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:27:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from orion.fa.tdktca.com ([163.49.131.130]) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id NAA20157 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:27:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from orion (alex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.fa.tdktca.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA09130; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:28:43 -0500 Message-ID: <31C6F559.3621A66B@fa.tdktca.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:28:41 -0500 From: Alex Nash Organization: TDK Factory Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Gray CC: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/daily References: <1.5.4.32.19960618170611.00698204@nwpros.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Rick Gray wrote: > > It's me again. > > I've been getting this error message of not having the cleaning of / in > /etc/daily enabled. How do you enable it? I've looked at /etc/daily and > still confused. You can enable it by uncommenting (removing the pound signs from) the 4 lines of code following the warning message. Thus it would look like this: # This is not safe, you need to decide what is appropriate for your # system. Leave a warning note for now. #echo "You did not enable the cleaning of / in /etc/daily!" # find / ! -fstype local -a -prune -o \ \( -name '[#,]*' -o -name '.#*' -o -name a.out -o -name *.core \ -o -name '*.CKP' -o -name '.emacs_[0-9]*' \) \ -a -atime +3 -exec rm -f -- {} \; Note that I've also commented out the warning. > BTW--what exactly does this do? It removes core files, editor temp files, and various other clutter-up- your-filesystem type files that are over 3 days old. As the warning states, this is not 100% safe. In fact the version in -current says: # This is a security hole, never use 'find' on a public directory # with -exec rm -f as root. This can be exploited to delete any file # on the system. You may wish to search the archives for a further description of this security hole. Alex From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 15:13:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02710 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02698 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA28840 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:13:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Watson To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: BGP on a cisco 2500 series Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I saw this topic discussed briefly on one of the lists. I didnt pay much attention till now. My boss wants to go multihomed and run BGP. We have a 2501 cisco router, and i'm pretty confident theres no way on gods green earth we can do it on a 2501. both serials are used. And i dont think it has the ability to hold a full routing table? So im thinking of a 4000 series. But i need some evidence so to speak to tell the suits why the 2501 is not a good choice. Also can anyone recomend a good 4000 series router? to replace our 2501 with? Thanks for the info. Chris -- ===================================| Webspan Inc., ISP Division. FreeBSD 2.1.0 is available now! | Phone: 908-367-8030 ext. 126 -----------------------------------| 500 West Kennedy Blvd., Lakewood, NJ-08701 Turning PCs into Workstations | E-Mail: scanner@webspan.net http://www.freebsd.org | SysAdmin / Network Engineer / Security ===================================| Member BSDNET team! http://www.bsdnet.org From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 15:16:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA03170 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gandalf.ejka.se ([194.251.83.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03157 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gimli.ejka.se (gimli.ejka.se [194.251.83.4]) by gandalf.ejka.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA00574 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:22:30 +0200 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960618222154.0067d55c@mail.ejka.se> X-Sender: jerker@mail.ejka.se X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:21:54 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Jerker Klang Subject: Install EIDE disks Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a problem. i want to install 2 new EIDE disks to one of my freeBSD boxes, but i cant figure aut how to do it (lack of doc maybe). any one having a straight forward solutions?? The disks is two Maxtor 72004AP with cyl:3893, Heads:16, Sect: 63 // Jerker Klang From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 16:36:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA09832 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uk1.vbc.net (jdd@uk1.vbc.net [204.137.194.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09824 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jdd@localhost) by uk1.vbc.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA11395; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:34:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:34:35 +0100 (BST) From: Jim Dixon To: Chris Watson cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BGP on a cisco 2500 series In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Chris Watson wrote: > I saw this topic discussed briefly on one of the lists. > I didnt pay much attention till now. My boss wants to go multihomed and > run BGP. We have a 2501 cisco router, and i'm pretty confident theres no > way on gods green earth we can do it on a 2501. both serials are used. > And i dont think it has the ability to hold a full routing table? I think that a full routing table takes about 6 MB these days. The Cisco 2501 comes with 2 MB and you can add 16 MB for something like $300 if you don't buy the SIMM from Cisco. Use one Cisco to handle one feed and the other Cisco to handle the other feed. If you get a lot of route flaps, increase the dampening. This approach saves money and gives you real fault-tolerance. Either provider or either Cisco can fail and you won't go down. I would also put them on separate UPSs. -- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 http://www.uk.vbc.net VBCnet West +1 408 971 2682 fax +1 408 971 2684 From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 17:26:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12564 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12559 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA05652 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0uWB2S-0008yhC; Tue, 18 Jun 96 17:22 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: BGP on a cisco 2500 series To: scanner@webspan.net (Chris Watson) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chris Watson" at Jun 18, 96 06:13:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Also can anyone recomend a good 4000 series router? to replace our 2501 > with? Don't get the 4000M --- get either the 4500 or the 4700. The 4000M has a 68040 processor, whereas the 4500 and 4700 have much faster MIPS processors; this will matter for processing the routing tables, as well as anything process switched (e.g. extended access lists for firewall filters, I think). -- Alan Batie ______ We're Starfleet officers: batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Weird is part of the job. +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Captain Janeway DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 17:27:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12594 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12588 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA00260; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:26:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:26:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: Rick Gray Subject: Re: /etc/daily In-Reply-To: <31C6F559.3621A66B@fa.tdktca.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I've been getting this error message of not having the cleaning of / in > > /etc/daily enabled. How do you enable it? I've looked at /etc/daily and > > still confused. > > You can enable it by uncommenting (removing the pound signs from) the 4 > lines of code following the warning message. Thus it would look like this: > > # This is a security hole, never use 'find' on a public directory > # with -exec rm -f as root. This can be exploited to delete any file > # on the system. There was some discussion of this on the Bugtraq mailing list. A perl script that could be safely used in place of rm was posted. Bugtraq archives are available at several places, including: http://www.eecs.nwu.edu/~jmyers/bugtraq/archives.html The thread is "[linux-security] Things NOT to put in root's crontab" To cut right to the chase, the post with the script is at: http://www.eecs.nwu.edu/~jmyers/bugtraq/0666.html ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 20:19:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA25371 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mojo.calyx.net (twc@mojo.calyx.net [204.137.148.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA25342 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (twc@localhost) by mojo.calyx.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12750 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:19:21 -0400 (EDT) From: TWC To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ifconfig alias Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I have ifconfig alias set up on two FreeBSD machines, one is a 2.2-SNAP with the edx driver, the other is a 2.1-stable with the dex driver. The aliases seem to work just fine, but when I issue the ifconfig -a command I don't see the alaises on the 2.1-stable. 2.2-snap: [k@fly-dope k]$ /sbin/ifconfig -a ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 204.137.148.200 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 204.137.148.255 inet 204.137.148.203 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 204.137.148.255 ether 00:00:01:05:51:76 2.1-stable: bash$ /sbin/ifconfig -a de0: flags=c863 mtu 1500 inet 204.137.148.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 204.137.148.255 Can anyone give me a few pointers as to why this is happening? thanks! -- -- TWC -- twc@netpimp.com -- From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 18 23:18:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA16311 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (lynx.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.20.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA16306 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA12216; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:16:48 +1000 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:16:46 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Jim Dixon cc: Chris Watson , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BGP on a cisco 2500 series In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Jim Dixon wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Chris Watson wrote: > > > I saw this topic discussed briefly on one of the lists. > > I didnt pay much attention till now. My boss wants to go multihomed and > > run BGP. We have a 2501 cisco router, and i'm pretty confident theres no > > way on gods green earth we can do it on a 2501. both serials are used. > > And i dont think it has the ability to hold a full routing table? > > I think that a full routing table takes about 6 MB these days. The > Cisco 2501 comes with 2 MB and you can add 16 MB for something like $300 > if you don't buy the SIMM from Cisco. Use one Cisco to handle one feed > and the other Cisco to handle the other feed. If you get a lot of route > flaps, increase the dampening. That's interesting. Telstra Internet in Australia is suggesting a 64MB router for full BGP4 peering with them. Now I don't know much (anything) about how routes are stored in a router's RAM, but 34,000 routes x 32 bytes (net, mask, gw, status, ASN, etc) gives about 1 MB of data. I'm quite prepared to be out by a factor of 5 or even 10, but why would Telstra be suggesting a 64MB router for their peers? (see http://www.telstra.net/np.html) The fact that they are attempting to charge US$1600 per month for peering with them suggests that they don't want peers, but could the 64 MB requirement be an additional attempt to dissuade peering? Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 19 00:58:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA20494 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uk1.vbc.net (jdd@uk1.vbc.net [204.137.194.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20485 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jdd@localhost) by uk1.vbc.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA13690; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:57:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:57:34 +0100 (BST) From: Jim Dixon To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" cc: Chris Watson , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BGP on a cisco 2500 series In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > I think that a full routing table takes about 6 MB these days. The > > Cisco 2501 comes with 2 MB and you can add 16 MB for something like $300 > > if you don't buy the SIMM from Cisco. Use one Cisco to handle one feed > > and the other Cisco to handle the other feed. If you get a lot of route > > flaps, increase the dampening. > > That's interesting. Telstra Internet in Australia is suggesting a 64MB > router for full BGP4 peering with them. Now I don't know much (anything) > about how routes are stored in a router's RAM, but 34,000 routes x 32 > bytes (net, mask, gw, status, ASN, etc) gives about 1 MB of data. > I'm quite prepared to be out by a factor of 5 or even 10, but why would > Telstra be suggesting a 64MB router for their peers? > (see http://www.telstra.net/np.html) I really would rather not got into a religious dispute, nor would I want to ... how does one say this sort of thing? ... question the bona fides of your supplier. But if I look at memory usage on a Cisco handling BGP4 peering with a single external BGP4 peer, it is roughly 6 MB for roughly 30K routes. This Cisco also peers with six other internal BGP4 peers. If you like, I can send you more detail by private email. Memory requirements shoot up when routers are handling multiple BGP4 peers at peering points where there is a lot of traffic and a lot of routes flapping. But to be honest, from the little that I know about the Internet in Australia and New Zealand, I don't see that you would have the kind of wild instability that is prevalent at the major US peering points. > The fact that they are attempting to charge US$1600 per month for peering > with them suggests that they don't want peers, but could the 64 MB > requirement be an additional attempt to dissuade peering? 8-) -- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 http://www.uk.vbc.net VBCnet West +1 408 971 2682 fax +1 408 971 2684 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 19 06:43:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA13809 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA13804 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nike.efn.org (gurney_j@garcia.efn.org [198.68.17.5]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA10643 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gurney_j@localhost) by nike.efn.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA00718; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:50:49 -0700 (PDT) From: John-Mark Gurney Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: Alex Nash cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: /etc/daily In-Reply-To: <31C6F559.3621A66B@fa.tdktca.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Alex Nash wrote: > # This is a security hole, never use 'find' on a public directory > # with -exec rm -f as root. This can be exploited to delete any file > # on the system. > > You may wish to search the archives for a further description of this > security hole. I have a quick comment about this... can't you specify /bin/rm instead of just rm? wouldn't that help fix the security bug? or is that related to the use of special file names? John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 19 08:19:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19006 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA19000 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA05752 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:25:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:25:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199606191525.LAA05752@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: BGP on a cisco 2500 series Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I saw this topic discussed briefly on one of the lists. >I didnt pay much attention till now. My boss wants to go multihomed and >run BGP. We have a 2501 cisco router, and i'm pretty confident theres no >way on gods green earth we can do it on a 2501. both serials are used. >And i dont think it has the ability to hold a full routing table? >So im thinking of a 4000 series. >But i need some evidence so to speak to tell the suits why the 2501 is not >a good choice. >Also can anyone recomend a good 4000 series router? to replace our 2501 >with? Why not save yourself a bundle and do it on a freebsd machine? Others are doing it.....for about 1/3 of the price of a 4000 series. A Pentium 120 or 133 with 64meg is a pretty powerful box. Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 19 08:40:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20877 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20866 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA05798 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:47:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:47:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199606191547.LAA05798@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: BGP on a cisco 2500 series Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Chris Watson wrote: > >> I saw this topic discussed briefly on one of the lists. >> I didnt pay much attention till now. My boss wants to go multihomed and >> run BGP. We have a 2501 cisco router, and i'm pretty confident theres no >> way on gods green earth we can do it on a 2501. both serials are used. >> And i dont think it has the ability to hold a full routing table? > >I think that a full routing table takes about 6 MB these days. The >Cisco 2501 comes with 2 MB and you can add 16 MB for something like $300 >if you don't buy the SIMM from Cisco. Use one Cisco to handle one feed >and the other Cisco to handle the other feed. If you get a lot of route >flaps, increase the dampening. > >This approach saves money and gives you real fault-tolerance. Either >provider or either Cisco can fail and you won't go down. I would also >put them on separate UPSs. Anyone out there getting multiple views of the net with a 2501? With filtering and convergence situations the little processor in a 2501 is rather inadaquate. Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 19 08:41:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20956 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com ([206.26.1.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA20947 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com (daemon@localhost) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id KAA27785 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:42:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from orion.fa.tdktca.com ([163.49.131.130]) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA27778 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:42:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from orion (alex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.fa.tdktca.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA10152; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:44:31 -0500 Message-ID: <31C8205F.32315B31@fa.tdktca.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:44:31 -0500 From: Alex Nash Organization: TDK Factory Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John-Mark Gurney CC: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/daily References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Alex Nash wrote: > > > # This is a security hole, never use 'find' on a public directory > > # with -exec rm -f as root. This can be exploited to delete any file > > # on the system. > > > > You may wish to search the archives for a further description of this > > security hole. > > I have a quick comment about this... can't you specify /bin/rm instead > of just rm? wouldn't that help fix the security bug? or is that related > to the use of special file names? This is not a path problem, but a race condition that can be exploited by using symbolic links. This is due to the delays between the directory being located by 'find' and the execution of 'rm.' Alex From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 19 09:58:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA29610 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inquo.net (val@inquo.net [206.43.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29605 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:58:18 -0700 (PDT) From: val@inquo.net Received: (from val@localhost) by inquo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA06714 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:58:11 -0600 Message-Id: <199606191658.KAA06714@inquo.net> Subject: subscribe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:58:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 19 11:31:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA07834 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irbs.irbs.com ([199.182.75.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07828 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.7.5/8.6.6) id OAA17183; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:28:35 -0400 (EDT) From: John Capo Message-Id: <199606191828.OAA17183@irbs.irbs.com> Subject: Re: ifconfig alias To: twc@ns.calyx.com (TWC) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from TWC at "Jun 18, 96 11:19:21 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk TWC writes: > > 2.2-snap: > [k@fly-dope k]$ /sbin/ifconfig -a > ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 204.137.148.200 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 204.137.148.255 > inet 204.137.148.203 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 204.137.148.255 > ether 00:00:01:05:51:76 > > 2.1-stable: > bash$ /sbin/ifconfig -a > de0: flags=c863 > mtu 1500 > inet 204.137.148.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 204.137.148.255 > This feature was added to ifconfig in 2.2. netstat -i will show the aliases. Add -n if you want numbers instead of names. irbs 123# netstat -in Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll de0 1500 00.c0.d1.30.08.fb 237886 11 242286 0 2853 de0 1500 199.182.75. 199.182.75.129 237886 11 242286 0 2853 de0 1500 199.182.75. 199.182.75.134 237886 11 242286 0 2853 John Capo jc@irbs.com IRBS Engineering FreeBSD Servers and Workstations (954) 792-9551 Unix/Internet Consulting - ISP Solutions From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 20 11:55:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01274 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vpm.com ([207.49.29.143]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01269; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by vpm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA12057; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:57:58 -0700 From: Mark Stout Message-Id: <199606201857.LAA12057@vpm.com> Subject: Re: pbmplus for FreeBSD? To: markd@grizzly.com (Mark Diekhans) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606201515.IAA01151@Grizzly.COM> from "Mark Diekhans" at Jun 20, 96 08:15:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Mark Diekhans was seen writing" > > There is a newer release called netpbm, grab: > > ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu:/graphics/graphics/packages/NetPBM/netpbm-1mar1994.tar.gz > > I don't rememeber having any trouble compiling it on FreeBSD. Drop me some > mail if you have problems. This compiled okay. A few warning, but that's it. If you want to see why I needed this program, check out: http://www.vpm.com/Imeter/ Imeter is a program that allows users to benchmark Internet Service Providers. By selecting certain landmarks on the Internet and adding them to a host file, produces a graph based on the benchmarks collected. Ciao, Mark -- ========================================================================== Mark Stout | The Village Potpourri Mall: http://www.vpm.com/ ---------------+---------------------------------------------------------- VPM Enterprises; P.O.Box 6427; Folsom, CA 95763-6427 Secured Web Hosting and Secured Discussion Groups Secured Internet Sales, Marketing and Advertising Specialist ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 20 14:55:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13442 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13424; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id QAA29533; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:54:17 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199606202154.QAA29533@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Automatic PPP-detecting getty and pppd!!! To: hackers@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org, aturetta@stylo.it, michaelh@cet.co.jp Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:54:16 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Okay all of you who have been wanting a way to get around loading "Microsoft Dial Up Scripting" on your Windows 95 boxes... now FreeBSD can detect a PPP session inside getty, and deal with it appropriately! "Cooooool!" My setup assumes use of kernel PPP, and assumes you have "options" and "options.ttyXX" set up so that the "ppplogin" script doesn't have to deal with it. The "ppplogin" script is arbitrary and can be modified to suit local policies. pppd has been modified to update utmp and wtmp and note an automatic PPP login by setting the "from/host" field to ":PPP". getty has been modified with a "pp=" capability to enable automatic PPP detection, and will pass off PPP sessions to this program instead of /usr/bin/login. I do not yet have patches available. I pulled the -current sources and built them under 2.1R, there were some /usr/include headaches that I brute forced my way through. I would like to submit patches for both -current and -stable (if it still exists). There is a binary tarball pointer below. To use this: Add the following to your gettytab... [....] std.115200|115200-baud:\ :np:sp#115200: ppp.115200|115200-baud:\ :np:sp#115200:pp=/usr/local/libexec/ppplogin: This is a PPP-autodetect enabled getty entry. Add the following to your ttys... [...] # ttyc0 "/usr/libexec/getty ppp.115200" unknown on ttyc1 "/usr/libexec/getty ppp.115200" unknown on [...] We are using Cyclades cards, you can of course modify to be "ttyd0" or whatever. We are also running at 115200, which is of course arbitrary. Now, SAVE YOUR OLD /usr/libexec/getty AND /usr/sbin/pppd EXECUTABLES. FTP to ftp://ftp.freebsd.sol.net/pub/alpha/pppgetty.tar.gz and extract it. You should be ready to rock and roll! Bear in mind that you need to set up and configure pppd, but that is an exercise I will leave up to you. We've been using it here with zero problems for several days.. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 20 15:36:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21983 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21970 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00205; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:35:03 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: Joe Greco cc: isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Automatic PPP-detecting getty and pppd!!! In-Reply-To: <199606202154.QAA29533@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Okay all of you who have been wanting a way to get around loading > "Microsoft Dial Up Scripting" on your Windows 95 boxes... now FreeBSD > can detect a PPP session inside getty, and deal with it appropriately! How is this different from simply setting /etc/ttys to run pppd instead of getty? Does it give a login prompt to people who aren't using PPP? If my users don't want/need a login prompt, are there any advantages to using the new getty instead of directly running pppd? Forgive me if this is a stupid or self-answering question. ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 20 17:30:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA29395 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA29390 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zap.io.org (taob@zap.io.org [198.133.36.81]) by post.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA09301; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:28:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-ISP-L , Greg Rowe cc: angio@aros.net Subject: Re: Computer disappears from the network, then reappears...? In-Reply-To: <9606111118.ZM23888@nevis.oss.uswest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Greg Rowe wrote: > > We've seen a similar problem on 4 different systems in the last couple > weeks. Three were running 2.1 Release and one running -Current. All > three use the SMC EtherPower card. The symptoms were that system > appeared to be running fine, but you couldn't telnet, ping, etc. into > the box. Okay, I've started seeing this on my 2.2-960501 workstation, after six weeks of perfectly good behaviour. In fact, it hung on me three times in the past two days. 'ifconfig de0 down ; ifconfig de0 up' clears things up, as someone had suggested. I haven't tried pinging it from another server yet. None of our Internet servers have been afflicted with this problem, and they are also running the same OS release, using the same model of SMC EtherPower cards bought both some months before and after the one in my workstation. I don't know if there is any correlation to a chip- or board-level revision on these SMC's. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 20 18:02:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA01224 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01214 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id UAA29872; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:01:16 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199606210101.UAA29872@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Automatic PPP-detecting getty and pppd!!! To: root@edmweb.com (Steve Reid) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:01:16 -0500 (CDT) Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Steve Reid" at Jun 20, 96 03:34:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Okay all of you who have been wanting a way to get around loading > > "Microsoft Dial Up Scripting" on your Windows 95 boxes... now FreeBSD > > can detect a PPP session inside getty, and deal with it appropriately! > > How is this different from simply setting /etc/ttys to run pppd instead > of getty? Does it give a login prompt to people who aren't using PPP? Yes. The way we configure systems here, people have traditionally logged in with "Plogin" for PPP logins, and "login" for regular logins. Due to some other old local magic, "regular logins" actually get forwarded off of the "terminal server" box and onto the "shell account" box. However, the interesting new technology is allowing everything to coexist :-) > If > my users don't want/need a login prompt, are there any advantages to > using the new getty instead of directly running pppd? By definition, most ISP's want to offer flexibility. Think about the following: you go to a customer's site. You desperately want to download winsock (or whatever) because the customer's copy is bad - or he hasn't ever been set up before. You have a rack of a hundred modems, all execing pppd out of ttys.. you get very frustrated because you didn't leave yourself (or your users) a path into the system when everything was not working right on the customer's end. Rule #1, engineer for scenarios other than the best case. Or.. think about that one damn Mac customer who has to have SLIP because his ancient crudware won't do PPP reliably... > Forgive me if this is a stupid or self-answering question. Only sort of ;-) In an ideal world, it's nice to run everything over the network (i.e. PPP). In the real world, that screws you too badly in some cases. By the way, you may wish to look at my pppd anyways. Your current pppd will not log people in utmp, I personally like being able to type "w" and see who/what is connected, and this pppd does that. It also validates the "expires" field in the passwd entry, so that if you use this BSD feature, it works for PPP too. Forward progress, ho! ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 20 18:07:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA01610 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schizo.cdsnet.net (schizo.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01605 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mrcpu@localhost) by schizo.cdsnet.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA29682; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:12:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen To: Brian Tao cc: FREEBSD-ISP-L , Greg Rowe , angio@aros.net Subject: Re: Computer disappears from the network, then reappears...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Me too, but I fix it by killing and restarting routed. The down-up ifconfig didn't work. I've logged the routed output, and don't see anything going on, I just lose all connectivity. It's happened a few times in the last couple days now. I'm running -stable, booted about a 40 days or so ago. On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Brian Tao wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Greg Rowe wrote: > > > > We've seen a similar problem on 4 different systems in the last couple > > weeks. Three were running 2.1 Release and one running -Current. All > > three use the SMC EtherPower card. The symptoms were that system > > appeared to be running fine, but you couldn't telnet, ping, etc. into > > the box. > > Okay, I've started seeing this on my 2.2-960501 workstation, after > six weeks of perfectly good behaviour. In fact, it hung on me three > times in the past two days. 'ifconfig de0 down ; ifconfig de0 up' > clears things up, as someone had suggested. I haven't tried pinging > it from another server yet. > > None of our Internet servers have been afflicted with this > problem, and they are also running the same OS release, using the same > model of SMC EtherPower cards bought both some months before and after > the one in my workstation. I don't know if there is any correlation > to a chip- or board-level revision on these SMC's. > -- > Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) > Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. > "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" > From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 20 18:18:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02535 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA02517 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA00332; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:18:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: Brian Tao cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computer disappears from the network, then reappears...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Okay, I've started seeing this on my 2.2-960501 workstation, after > six weeks of perfectly good behaviour. In fact, it hung on me three > times in the past two days. 'ifconfig de0 down ; ifconfig de0 up' > clears things up, as someone had suggested. I haven't tried pinging > it from another server yet. It happened to me for a second time... The card died one night, came back up at around 5am and delivered the daily run output to our mail machine, then went down again. I went to the console to try to bring it back up, but I couldn't. 'ifconfig de0 down; ifconfig de0 up' wouldn't reset the card. Even shutting the whole computer off and back on didn't reset the card. Needless to say, we sent it back to the retailer, still under warranty. They plugged the card in and it worked, so they're sending it back to the manufacturer calling it an intermittent problem. Our other machine, with identical motherboard and identical SMC EtherPower 10/100 card, has not had any problems AFAICS. Both machines running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. I don't know if the address of the card means anything, but FWIW the address of the card we returned was 00:00:C0:09:94:C6 and the address of the card that works is 00:00:C0:F1:93:C6 ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 20 18:24:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA03333 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03327 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id UAA29971; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:23:30 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199606210123.UAA29971@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Automatic PPP-detecting getty and pppd!!! To: bsd@mail.gld.com Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:23:29 -0500 (CDT) Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606210114.VAA05541@mail.gld.com> from "bsd@mail.gld.com" at Jun 20, 96 09:10:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Okay all of you who have been wanting a way to get around loading "Microsoft > > Dial Up Scripting" on your Windows 95 boxes... now FreeBSD can detect a PPP > > session inside getty, and deal with it appropriately! "Cooooool!" > Where were you a week ago when I struggled with mgetty!? Anyways, are > you able to log users using pap and logging in normally? If so, then > I'm gonna to try your stuff! BTW thanx for writing it! Hi, It wasn't hard, I've been in getty often enough in the past. Special thanks to Mike Hancock for a kick in the rear that allowed me to see how easy it was to do ;-) Local policy here is to authenticate with PAP out of the system password database. This has the jolly nice side effect of giving users one (and only one) password to remember and (more importantly) to forget. However, my stuff does not deal with the authentication. If you can do it with the pppd in 2.1R, you can do it with mine. The only changes I made to the PAP/passwd stuff was to check the account expiration field for expired accounts, and to put the user in the utmp file. Enjoy, ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 20 23:55:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA27343 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 23:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA27303; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 23:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id IAA10855; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:51:14 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA01183; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:51:00 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id IAA21045; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:24:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199606210624.IAA21045@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Automatic PPP-detecting getty and pppd!!! To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:24:07 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org, aturetta@stylo.it, michaelh@cet.co.jp Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199606202154.QAA29533@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from Joe Greco at "Jun 20, 96 04:54:16 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Joe Greco wrote: > getty has been modified with a "pp=" capability to enable automatic PPP > detection, and will pass off PPP sessions to this program instead of > /usr/bin/login. > > I do not yet have patches available. There are patches contributed sitting in the GNATS queue already. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 21 04:52:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA11028 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 04:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA11022; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 04:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id GAA00759; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:50:08 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199606211150.GAA00759@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Automatic PPP-detecting getty and pppd!!! To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:50:08 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, hackers@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org, aturetta@stylo.it, michaelh@cet.co.jp In-Reply-To: <199606210624.IAA21045@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jun 21, 96 08:24:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > getty has been modified with a "pp=" capability to enable automatic PPP > > detection, and will pass off PPP sessions to this program instead of > > /usr/bin/login. > > > > I do not yet have patches available. > > There are patches contributed sitting in the GNATS queue already. Do they modify pppd to correctly log users in, do they handle it as a new gettytab capability, etc? ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 21 13:23:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24964 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA24895; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id WAA13433; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:22:23 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA11180; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:22:23 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA22783; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:13:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199606212013.WAA22783@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Automatic PPP-detecting getty and pppd!!! To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers), isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:13:17 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199606211150.GAA00759@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from Joe Greco at "Jun 21, 96 06:50:08 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Joe Greco wrote: > > There are patches contributed sitting in the GNATS queue already. > > Do they modify pppd to correctly log users in, do they handle it as a new > gettytab capability, etc? j@uriah 269% query-pr 1019 >Number: 1019 >Category: bin >Synopsis: getty cannot detect ppp logins >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: joerg >State: open >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator: David Muir Sharnoff >Release: FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386 >Arrival-Date: Mon Feb 12 02:00:02 PST 1996 You should be able to get the PR via the Web interface, or drop me a mail if you want. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 21 15:46:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA09678 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09672 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zap.io.org (taob@zap.io.org [198.133.36.81]) by post.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA19432; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:44:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: Jaye Mathisen cc: FREEBSD-ISP-L , Greg Rowe , angio@aros.net Subject: Re: Computer disappears from the network, then reappears...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Jaye Mathisen wrote: > > Me too, but I fix it by killing and restarting routed. That doesn't work for me here. Neither does pinging the downed workstation from another location (something someone else suggested). My ifconfig shows: de0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 198.133.36.103 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 198.133.36.255 ether 00:00:c0:23:41:c8 Perhaps the Ethernet address could suggest a batch number or a production run at SMC? -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 21 20:20:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21503 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 20:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21498 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 20:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA10397 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:20:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:20:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Watson To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Adduser problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmm I have this problem, i get mail from a coworker the support people use adduser to add accounts... they login to the support account, and then sudo to adduser my problem is that on the 17th they added 150 accounts and somehow all the /home/user dir's were owned by root and group wheel? How did that happen? this is the second time this has happened. Does something happen to adduser when you add more than X ammount of users? Anyone seen this? Chris From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 22 07:20:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA03477 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 07:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA03439 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 07:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from campa.panke.de (anonymous218.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.218]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA06699; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 16:06:43 +0200 Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00495; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:55:40 +0200 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:55:40 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider Message-Id: <199606221155.NAA00495@campa.panke.de> To: Chris Watson Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Adduser problem In-Reply-To: References: Reply-to: Wolfram Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris Watson writes: >my problem is that on the 17th they added 150 accounts and somehow all the >/home/user dir's were owned by root and group wheel? > >How did that happen? this is the second time this has happened. There was a bug in adduser. Adduser forgot chown/chgrp if you don't copy dotfiles from /usr/share/skel. Fixed in -current and -stable. Wolfram ---------------------------- revision 1.10 date: 1996/02/10 17:15:47; author: wosch; state: Exp; lines: +8 -2 Submitted by: Masafumi NAKANE bugfix: chown home directory if don't copy dotfiles From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 22 21:00:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27678 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wave.cyberbeach.net (wave.cyberbeach.net [205.150.79.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA27659 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from surf.cyberbeach.net (surf.cyberbeach.net [205.150.79.12]) by wave.cyberbeach.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA04179 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:59:57 -0400 Received: (from kurt@localhost) by surf.cyberbeach.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA19029 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:59:56 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:59:56 -0400 From: Kurt Schafer Message-Id: <199606230359.XAA19029@surf.cyberbeach.net> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Setting up NIS/YP Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anybody out there help me get on track towards setting up an NIS system with my existing FreeBSD machines ? A FAQ, or document detailing the steps would be fantastic if such a beast exists. -Kurt From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 22 21:27:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28749 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (root@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28744 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from swoosh.dunn.org (swoosh.dunn.org [206.158.7.243]) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA06450; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 00:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606230427.AAA06450@ns2.harborcom.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Bradley Dunn" Organization: Harbor Communications To: Kurt Schafer Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 00:22:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Setting up NIS/YP Reply-to: dunn@harborcom.net CC: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.31) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk man yp is a great place to start. It is actually quite an informative overview. man 5 passwd includes a good description of how the passwd file works with NIS. _Managing NFS and NIS_, by Hal Stern is also a good read (it's an O'Reilly, got some funky porcupines or something on the cover). The section on NIS in the handbook is currently empty, but the above should provide all the info you need. On 22 Jun 96 at 23:59, Kurt Schafer wrote: > Can anybody out there help me get on track towards setting up an NIS > system with my existing FreeBSD machines ? Bradley Dunn From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 22 23:29:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04205 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vpm.com ([207.49.29.143]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA04200 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snoopy ([207.49.29.28]) by vpm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA21562; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:31:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199606230631.XAA21562@vpm.com> X-Sender: mcs@vpm.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:25:43 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Mark Stout Subject: ISP Network Benchmark Statistics in Graph Format Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All: I've started benchmarking the Internet and my local area, Sacramento, CA. I've taken a random sampling of the ISP's across the country and have started collecting data to benchmark the overall performance of the Internet as represented by the milliseconds it takes to send and receive a packet across the Internet, then averaged out. It's called the Internet Meter and it gives a fair representation of the overall performance as seen from the mid-west coast as the origin, since a majority of users in the USA originate in California. This could be further usefull if run from the mid US, like Denver or Omaha and on the east coast. At any rate, you can see the benchmarked graphs at: http://www.vpm.com/Imeter/ I'd like to hear any feedback, good or bad, on any thoughts and/or improvements. Ciao, Mark ========================================================================== Mark Stout | The Village Potpourri Mall: http://www.vpm.com/ ---------------+---------------------------------------------------------- VPM Enterprises; P.O.Box 6427; Folsom, CA 95763-6427 Secured Internet Sales, Marketing and Advertising Specialist ==========================================================================