From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 30 04:02:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA10950 for alpha-outgoing; Fri, 30 May 1997 04:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moray.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (root@moray.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.101.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10944 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 04:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (adrian@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.101.17]) by moray.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20466 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:02:18 +0800 Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA10981 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:02:17 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au: adrian owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:02:17 +0800 (WST) From: Adrian Chadd To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Australian people want alphas to play with? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If people in Australia are after some alphas to play with, contact me at adrian@deathstar.ml.org, and I'll arrange some. I'm picking up a multia 166MHz, and one of these 233Mhz ones to play with, if people *seriously* are after these to develop the port on, email me. This isn't guaranteed for long, so let me know and I'll pass the information on. Of course, this is if they are any GOOD for developing the port on, people please comment on it if you're clueful (as I'm not with alphas) --- Alpha details Got a call from Sydney re: Multia's Seems like a certain supplier found three more 233's if anyone wanta them.. 32 MB RAM 500 MB HD all other details same as th 166.. $550 delivered... -- End Adrian Chadd From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 30 07:58:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA19269 for alpha-outgoing; Fri, 30 May 1997 07:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gnostic.cynic.net (gnostic.cynic.net [198.73.220.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19260 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 07:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([[UNIX: localhost]]) by gnostic.cynic.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA16127; Fri, 30 May 1997 07:57:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gnostic.cynic.net: cjs owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 07:57:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Sampson X-Sender: cjs@gnostic.cynic.net To: Adrian Chadd cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Australian people want alphas to play with? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 30 May 1997, Adrian Chadd wrote: > If people in Australia are after some alphas to play with, contact me at > adrian@deathstar.ml.org, and I'll arrange some. I'm picking up a multia > 166MHz, and one of these 233Mhz ones to play with, if people *seriously* > are after these to develop the port on, email me. This isn't > guaranteed for long, so let me know and I'll pass the information on. > > Of course, this is if they are any GOOD for developing the port on, people > please comment on it if you're clueful (as I'm not with alphas) The 233 should be noticably faster than the 166, in part due to having a 512K cache. They can usually be safely overclocked to 266 MHz as well. These machines should be just fine for developing the Alpha port on except for the absence of ISA slots and the speed. The 21066 CPUs have a slow memory bus to begin with (on a good day perhaps half the speed of a Pentium), and the Multia is worse than most 21066 machines. Under NetBSD, on a 5400 RPM disk, with 56 MB of memory, building a fairly large kernel takes about an hour. Also, a lot of people seem to have their Multias die mysteriously, though I've never had a problem with mine. I've heard that putting the motherboard in a bath of whatever one uses to clean flux off motherboards helps. > Seems like a certain supplier found three more 233's if anyone wanta > them.. > 32 MB RAM > 500 MB HD > all other details same as th 166.. > $550 delivered... That sounds like an excellent price for it. (I paid US$1100 for my 233 MHz Multia.) It's worth checking to see if the drive is a 3.5" or 2.5", though; the 3.5" drives take up the space that would otherwise be usable for a PCI expansion card. cjs Curt Sampson cjs@portal.ca Info at http://www.portal.ca/ Internet Portal Services, Inc. `And malt does more than Milton can Vancouver, BC (604) 257-9400 To justify God's ways to man.' From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 30 21:00:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02371 for alpha-outgoing; Fri, 30 May 1997 21:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obiwan.psinet.net.au (obiwan.psinet.net.au [203.19.28.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02349 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 21:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by obiwan.psinet.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA05787; Sat, 31 May 1997 11:41:49 +0800 (WST) Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 11:41:49 +0800 (WST) From: Adrian Chadd To: Curt Sampson cc: Adrian Chadd , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Australian people want alphas to play with? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 30 May 1997, Curt Sampson wrote: > The 233 should be noticably faster than the 166, in part due to > having a 512K cache. They can usually be safely overclocked to 266 > MHz as well. > *nod* > These machines should be just fine for developing the Alpha port > on except for the absence of ISA slots and the speed. The 21066 > CPUs have a slow memory bus to begin with (on a good day perhaps > half the speed of a Pentium), and the Multia is worse than most > 21066 machines. Under NetBSD, on a 5400 RPM disk, with 56 MB of > memory, building a fairly large kernel takes about an hour. > > all other details same as th 166.. > > $550 delivered... ^^^--- $A550 :-) Delivery in Australia too, only. > > That sounds like an excellent price for it. (I paid US$1100 for my > 233 MHz Multia.) It's worth checking to see if the drive is a 3.5" > or 2.5", though; the 3.5" drives take up the space that would > otherwise be usable for a PCI expansion card. >From memory they are 3.5" drives so yes you'll need to replace it with a 2.5" drive in order to get to the PCI slot. Anyone? No? Who is in Perth that DOES FreeBSD stuff? :-) Adrian Chadd