From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 10 09:32:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA13431 for alpha-outgoing; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:32:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha) Received: from bsdserve1.comsite.net (dave@bsdserve1.comsite.net [205.238.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA13406; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@comsite.net) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by bsdserve1.comsite.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA27627; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:22:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:22:12 -0600 (CST) From: dave To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: alpha port Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well just curious if anyone has been working on the initial stage FreeBSD bootstrap yet on the Alpha... I guess I ask this question once a month and once a month it gets ignored so I guess so far there is no work being done yet. --Dave Ferovick dave@comsite.net From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 10 10:33:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA18091 for alpha-outgoing; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:33:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha) Received: from mail.uniserve.com (charon.uniserve.com [204.244.163.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA18086 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:33:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252] by mail.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0xUydj-0005fU-00; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:32:47 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:32:44 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: dave cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, dave wrote: > Well just curious if anyone has been working on the initial stage FreeBSD > bootstrap yet on the Alpha... > > I guess I ask this question once a month and once a month it gets ignored > so I guess so far there is no work being done yet. Please don't bother asking unless you are planning to contribute something. > --Dave Ferovick > dave@comsite.net Tom From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 10 12:54:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA27737 for alpha-outgoing; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:54:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA27732 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:54:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA16956; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:53:42 -0800 (PST) To: Tom cc: dave , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha port In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:32:44 PST." Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:53:42 -0800 Message-ID: <16953.879195222@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, dave wrote: > > > Well just curious if anyone has been working on the initial stage FreeBSD > > bootstrap yet on the Alpha... > > > > I guess I ask this question once a month and once a month it gets ignored > > so I guess so far there is no work being done yet. > > Please don't bother asking unless you are planning to contribute > something. Thank you. I couldn't have put it better myself. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 10 14:45:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA05297 for alpha-outgoing; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:45:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha) Received: from bsdserve1.comsite.net (dave@bsdserve1.comsite.net [205.238.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA05292 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:45:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@comsite.net) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by bsdserve1.comsite.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA29548; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:35:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:35:15 -0600 (CST) From: dave To: Tom cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm, actually I am -definitely- planning on contributing something. Hence the reason I asked specifically if anyone has worked on the the 'initial stage...bootstrap'. I was trying to put across that the palcode seems to be out of my reach right now but I have documentation and hardware for much of the system that I am just waiting to put to use whenever I can. I would really like to get FreeBSD running instead of NetBSD on this box. I am looking to establish a timeline of when an initial PALcode will be working so I can dedicate some time and funds to the project. With nobody saying anything at all I can't even begin to move things out of the way to help on the project. And attempting to redo work on the PALcode or bootstrap when someone else might be doing it would seem silly, especially when I have never looked at the code before a few weeks ago. As I sent a message to Jordan many weeks ago, I even have a machine that I was willing to donate to the cause, but since you guys ending up receiving machines from Digital I found out you didnt need them right now. I also have working OSF/1 (the release before they changed the name to digital unix, whichever one that is...i forget)... and NetBSD installs on the machine, and I also have much of the linux source tree sitting around on another machine that I have been studying. So, I'm sorry for being annoying but I figured it was the only way I could get a response from anyone, because I had tried to be nice about it several times in the past. If there is some other place that I can be so I can be closer to whatever communication circles than I am now, please inform me where that is. I love freebsd and I want to help out in whatever way I can to get it running on the Alphas. --Dave Ferovick ComSite International, Inc. On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, Tom wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, dave wrote: > > > Well just curious if anyone has been working on the initial stage FreeBSD > > bootstrap yet on the Alpha... > > > > I guess I ask this question once a month and once a month it gets ignored > > so I guess so far there is no work being done yet. > > Please don't bother asking unless you are planning to contribute > something. > > > --Dave Ferovick > > dave@comsite.net > > Tom > > From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 10 16:35:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA11499 for alpha-outgoing; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:35:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA11489 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:35:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA18069; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:34:20 -0800 (PST) To: dave cc: Tom , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha port In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:35:15 CST." Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:34:20 -0800 Message-ID: <18065.879208460@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I would really like to get FreeBSD running instead of NetBSD on this box. > I am looking to establish a timeline of when an initial PALcode will be > working so I can dedicate some time and funds to the project. With nobody > saying anything at all I can't even begin to move things out of the way to > help on the project. And attempting to redo work on the PALcode or > bootstrap when someone else might be doing it would seem silly, especially > when I have never looked at the code before a few weeks ago. Ah, well that's a little different of course. The sad truth of the matter is that absolutely nothing is happening, not with the PALcode, not with any aspect of the FreeBSD/ALPHA project. People are either simply far too busy to devote any time at all to it or are stuck without any technical documentation at all for their machines and frustrated by Digital's inability to provide same. So I guess what I'm saying is that if you want to take this ball and run with it, you'd be more than welcome since you're the only player on the ball field at the moment. :-) Jordan