From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Aug 23 13:03:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16674 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:03:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cynix.ecn.purdue.edu (cynix.ecn.purdue.edu [128.46.198.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16669 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:03:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from splite@purdue.edu) Received: (from splite@localhost) by cynix.ecn.purdue.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29563; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:00:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980823150051.A29543@cynix.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:00:51 -0500 From: Steven Plite To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Happy Hacking keyboard available in US Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (Following up my own question a couple months ago about buying Happy Hacking Keyboards (small-footprint "Unix-style" keyboards) in the US.) Check out http://www.pfuca.com/products/hhkb/hhkbindex.html Price is a bit steep, but it works on PCs, Macs, and Suns. Hopefully they'll make a cheaper PC-only model someday. They also have a page with pictures from their product rollout at Usenix. (Check out the picture of Mike Smith (and a daemon plushie) at the FreeBSD booth.) http://www.pfuca.com/news/usenix.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Aug 23 14:24:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23540 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thanatos.clara.net (thanatos.clara.net [195.8.69.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23522 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:24:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sneddon@clara.net) Received: (qmail 6514 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1998 21:23:36 -0000 Received: from du-1515.claranet.co.uk (HELO sneddon) (195.8.78.80) by mail.clara.net with SMTP; 23 Aug 1998 21:23:36 -0000 Message-ID: <004901bd82a2$db7da7c0$504e08c3@sneddon> From: "Paul Sneddon" To: Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:20:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01BD82AB.3C04ADC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BD82AB.3C04ADC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable auth 68bc2785 unsubscribe freebsd-hardware sneddon@clara.net ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BD82AB.3C04ADC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BD82AB.3C04ADC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 24 00:00:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05172 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 00:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (freebsd2.cimlogic.com.au [203.36.2.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05157 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 00:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24651; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:48:32 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808231548.PAA24651@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Steven Plite cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Happy Hacking keyboard available in US In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:00:51 EST." <19980823150051.A29543@cynix.ecn.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:48:31 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > (Following up my own question a couple months ago about buying Happy Hacking > Keyboards (small-footprint "Unix-style" keyboards) in the US.) > > Check out http://www.pfuca.com/products/hhkb/hhkbindex.html Price is a > bit steep, but it works on PCs, Macs, and Suns. Hopefully they'll make a > cheaper PC-only model someday. > > They also have a page with pictures from their product rollout at Usenix. > (Check out the picture of Mike Smith (and a daemon plushie) at the > FreeBSD booth.) http://www.pfuca.com/news/usenix.html Argh. Someone take the Gimp to that photo and put someone better-looking in there. I lose to the plushie (which is actually Mark Murray's one-of-a-kind South African Rugby Daemon), and that hurts. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 24 00:50:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11728 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 00:50:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11718 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 00:50:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA24841; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:19:02 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199808240749.RAA24841@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith cc: Steven Plite , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Happy Hacking keyboard available in US In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:48:31 GMT." <199808231548.PAA24651@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:19:01 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Argh. Someone take the Gimp to that photo and put someone > better-looking in there. I lose to the plushie (which is actually Mark > Murray's one-of-a-kind South African Rugby Daemon), and that hurts. 8) Oh I dunno Mike, you like you did when you left here.. ;) Hmm.. I;m wondering if that plushy is suposed to be dark red or if the colours in the photo are very weird.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 24 06:36:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26464 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 06:36:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26447 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 06:36:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (IDENT:OyaeDE7Ps3/0TYOZVawgrz8zmDMYJU7I@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04385; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:33:57 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199808241333.PAA04385@gratis.grondar.za> To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: Mike Smith , Steven Plite , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Happy Hacking keyboard available in US Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:33:50 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Daniel O'Connor" wrote: > > > Argh. Someone take the Gimp to that photo and put someone > > better-looking in there. I lose to the plushie (which is actually Mark > > Murray's one-of-a-kind South African Rugby Daemon), and that hurts. 8) > Oh I dunno Mike, you like you did when you left here.. ;) > > Hmm.. I;m wondering if that plushy is suposed to be dark red or if the colours > in the photo are very weird.. Yup, it it a burgundy/maroon. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 24 09:42:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24751 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:42:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from loviatar.webcom.com (loviatar.webcom.com [209.1.28.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24734 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme@echidna.com) Received: from kigal.webcom.com (kigal.webcom.com [209.1.28.57]) by loviatar.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA22232; Mon, 18 Feb 2036 05:17:40 -0800 Received: from [199.183.207.40] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 2973066; Mon Aug 24 09:40 PDT 1998 Message-Id: <35E1C10E.1AA3@echidna.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:37:50 -0700 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: info@boatbooks.com Subject: Re: UDMA Support References: <199808221929.TAA20855@dingo.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith wrote: > > > Does FreeBSD have Ultra DMA support or will it have it? > > FreeBSD 3.0 supports IDE DMA. SCSI disks will give better performance > in multiple-disk or high load scenarios. Assuming I'm running an Ultra ATA drive (IBM 7200 RPM 10GB or 14GB to be specific) under 2.2.7, what benefits would the Ultra DMA support under 3.0 bring, and under what conditions (read/write, file size etc.)? -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 24 15:49:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19750 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:49:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp-db.dialup.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19740 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:49:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00910; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:46:38 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808241546.PAA00910@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Graeme Tait cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, info@boatbooks.com Subject: Re: UDMA Support In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:37:50 MST." <35E1C10E.1AA3@echidna.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:46:36 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > Does FreeBSD have Ultra DMA support or will it have it? > > > > FreeBSD 3.0 supports IDE DMA. SCSI disks will give better performance > > in multiple-disk or high load scenarios. > > Assuming I'm running an Ultra ATA drive (IBM 7200 RPM 10GB or 14GB to be > specific) under 2.2.7, what benefits would the Ultra DMA support under > 3.0 bring, and under what conditions (read/write, file size etc.)? I/O transactions to/from the disk will consume (much) less CPU time. This is a win if you have more than one process active and not disk-bound (eg. a world build using -pipe, X server, etc.) Disk throughput is also higher on P6 and above because they do PIO poorly. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 24 23:11:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06883 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:11:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from owl.org (owl.org [198.206.215.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06870 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:11:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cgull@owl.org) Received: (from cgull@localhost) by owl.org (8.8.8/8.8.8/cgull) id CAA10317; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 02:10:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cgull) Message-ID: <19980825021026.12093@owl.org> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 02:10:26 -0400 From: john hood To: Joe Gleason Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UDMA Support References: <00f001bdcde3$7e14bb00$0171a1ce@bug.tasam.com> <199808221929.TAA20855@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1 In-Reply-To: <199808221929.TAA20855@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Sat, Aug 22, 1998 at 07:29:03PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 22, 1998 at 07:29:03PM +0000, Mike Smith wrote: > > Does FreeBSD have Ultra DMA support or will it have it? > > FreeBSD 3.0 supports IDE DMA. SCSI disks will give better performance > in multiple-disk or high load scenarios. -current supports DMA, but not Ultra DMA, which is faster and has CRC error checking. (I haven't got an Ultra DMA motherboard and drive to code/debug on.) This is not much of a problem yet, as IDE drives cannot yet use all the bandwidth of standard DMA, but it looks like it will be soon, the way IDE drives are going. :) --jh -- Mr. Belliveau said, "the difference was the wise, John Hood, cgull intelligent look on the face of the cow." He was @ *so* right. --Ofer Inbar owl.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 24 23:30:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08798 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:30:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08785 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:30:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA06960; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:59:13 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199808250629.PAA06960@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: john hood cc: Joe Gleason , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UDMA Support In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 02:10:26 -0400." <19980825021026.12093@owl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:59:13 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > FreeBSD 3.0 supports IDE DMA. SCSI disks will give better performance > > in multiple-disk or high load scenarios. > -current supports DMA, but not Ultra DMA, which is faster and has > CRC error checking. (I haven't got an Ultra DMA motherboard and > drive to code/debug on.) This is not much of a problem yet, as > IDE drives cannot yet use all the bandwidth of standard DMA, but > it looks like it will be soon, the way IDE drives are going. :) And the less time the computer spends moving data off your HD means more time to render Quake frames (or something). I have a UDMA mobo and 3 UDMA drives, so I can test it for you. I could probably code some of it if I knew what to do =) (ie the UDMA spec) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 25 05:27:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20851 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:27:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.online.samara.ru (SamaraOnline.customers.samara.net [195.128.128.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20826 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:27:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@ns.online.samara.ru) Received: (from igor@localhost) by ns.online.samara.ru (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA08982 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:17:55 GMT To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Organization: Cronyx Ltd. From: "System Administrator" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 98 17:17:55 +0000 X-Mailer: BML [UNIX Beauty Mail v.1.39] Subject: OPTi sound card driver Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Where I can find OPTi 82C930 sound card driver for fbsd 2.2.6 with src or without ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 25 05:41:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21985 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp-d9.dialup.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21978 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:41:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00441; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:36:45 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808250536.FAA00441@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: john hood , Joe Gleason , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UDMA Support In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:59:13 +0930." <199808250629.PAA06960@cain.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:36:44 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > FreeBSD 3.0 supports IDE DMA. SCSI disks will give better performance > > > in multiple-disk or high load scenarios. > > -current supports DMA, but not Ultra DMA, which is faster and has > > CRC error checking. (I haven't got an Ultra DMA motherboard and > > drive to code/debug on.) This is not much of a problem yet, as > > IDE drives cannot yet use all the bandwidth of standard DMA, but > > it looks like it will be soon, the way IDE drives are going. :) > And the less time the computer spends moving data off your HD means more > time to render Quake frames (or something). > > I have a UDMA mobo and 3 UDMA drives, so I can test it for you. I could > probably code some of it if I knew what to do =) (ie the UDMA spec) You want the ATA-4 spec (ftp://fission.dt.wdc.com) and the datasheet for the interface chipset you have (probably http:// developer.intel.com). -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 25 11:06:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06243 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:06:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (s205m64.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06238 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:06:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA23506 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:04:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:04:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199808251804.LAA23506@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SCSI bus timeouts Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a system (that's used as a server) with one each narrow (Adaptec 2940U; ahc0) and wide (Adaptec 2940UW; ahc1) SCSI host adapters. Each bus has an assortment of disk & tape devices, but the narrow bus has only narrow devices, and the wide bus has only wide devices. (Well, actually, the DLT drive & changer is a single external package, with a pair of 68-pin wide SCSI connectors, but it's my understanding that the changer is actually a narrow device.) Anyway, in each case, there are devices on the bus inside the case and devices on the bus external to the case, and I've turned off all termination on the host adapters. I'm trying to use amanda to perform backups, using the (recently- acquired) DLT drive & changer, and sufficiently often that it's Really Annoying, I see SCSI bus timeouts & resets. I'll append an example set of entries after my .sig (to avoid disrupting the flow of my deathless prose :-). And I'll precede it with an excerpt from /var/run/dmesg.boot. But the thing I was *just* noticing is that in many (though not all) cases, the reported problems with the wide (ahc1) adapter are preceded by reported problems with sd0 (ahc0:0:0) -- the drive that contains the bulk of the OS... and which just happens to be a Quantum Empire 1080S. Does it make sense to others that perhaps that Quantum Empire might be triggering the vast bulk of the rest of this unpleasantness? (I confess to a certain bias, as I have one at home that was on my Sun 3/60 for a while; I returned home after being out of town for a couple of weeks, only to find that there had been a power outage in my absence, and the drive had succumbed to the "stickation" problem for the last time.) Any hints or tips welcomed. Thanks, david -- David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 >From /var/run/dmesg.boot: FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE #0: Mon Aug 10 17:11:23 PDT 1998 dhw@shrimp.whistle.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/SHRIMP CPU: Pentium Pro (199.31-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x617 Stepping=7 Features=0xf9ff real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 30638080 (29920K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:1:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:1:1 pci0:1:2: Intel Corporation, device=0x7020, class=serial, subclass=0x03 int d irq 12 [no driver assigned] ahc0 rev 3 int a irq 12 on pci0:9:0 ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc0:0:0): "QUANTUM FIREBALL1080S 1Q09" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1042MB (2134305 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:2:0): "HP C3725S 6039" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd3(ahc0:2:0): Direct-Access 2047MB (4194058 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:3:0): "HP C3725S 6039" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd4(ahc0:3:0): Direct-Access 2047MB (4194058 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:4:0): "HP C1533A 9406" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc0:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x24, drive empty (ahc0:5:0): "HP C1533A 9503" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st1(ahc0:5:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x24, drive empty (ahc0:6:0): "PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-6XCS 2.06" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:6:0): CD-ROM can't get the size ... ahc1 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:11:0 ahc1: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc1 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc1:1:0): "Quantum XP31070W L912" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc1:1:0): Direct-Access 1075MB (2203480 512 byte sectors) (ahc1:2:0): "MICROP 4691WS T171" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2(ahc1:2:0): Direct-Access 8681MB (17780058 512 byte sectors) (ahc1:4:0): "Quantum DLT4000 D069" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st2(ahc1:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x1a, variable blocks, write-enabled ahc1:A:6: refuses WIDE negotiation. Using 8bit transfers (ahc1:6:0): "ADIC FastStor DLT 0110" type 8 removable SCSI 2 ch0(ahc1:6:0): Medium-Changer 7 slots, 1 drive, 1 picker >From /var/log/messages: Aug 25 03:23:14 shrimp /kernel: sd0(ahc0:0:0): parity error during Data-In phase. Aug 25 03:23:14 shrimp /kernel: sd0(ahc0:0:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:48,0 Aug 25 03:23:14 shrimp /kernel: sd0(ahc0:0:0): Initiator detected error message received Aug 25 03:23:14 shrimp /kernel: , retries:4 Aug 25 03:23:37 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): Target Busy Aug 25 03:23:47 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): SCB 0x4 - timed out in datain phase, SCSISIGI == 0x44 Aug 25 03:23:47 shrimp /kernel: SEQADDR = 0x48 SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x7 SSTAT1 = 0x2 Aug 25 03:23:47 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): abort message in message buffer Aug 25 03:23:47 shrimp /kernel: sd2(ahc1:2:0): SCB 0x0 timedout while recovery in progress Aug 25 03:23:47 shrimp /kernel: sd2(ahc1:2:0): SCB 0x3 timedout while recovery in progress Aug 25 03:23:49 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): SCB 0x1 - timed out in datain phase, SCSISIGI == 0x54 Aug 25 03:23:49 shrimp /kernel: SEQADDR = 0x48 SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x7 SSTAT1 = 0x2 Aug 25 03:23:49 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): no longer in timeout Aug 25 03:23:49 shrimp /kernel: ahc1: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 4 SCBs aborted Aug 25 03:23:49 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,2 Aug 25 03:23:49 shrimp /kernel: , retries:3 Aug 25 03:23:49 shrimp /kernel: sd2(ahc1:2:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 Aug 25 03:23:49 shrimp /kernel: sd2(ahc1:2:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred Aug 25 03:23:49 shrimp /kernel: , retries:3 Aug 25 03:23:51 shrimp /kernel: st2(ahc1:4:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 Aug 25 03:23:52 shrimp /kernel: st2(ahc1:4:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred Aug 25 03:29:12 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): Target Busy Aug 25 03:29:22 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): SCB 0x3 - timed out in datain phase, SCSISIGI == 0x44 Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: SEQADDR = 0x48 SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x7 SSTAT1 = 0x2 Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): abort message in message buffer Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: sd2(ahc1:2:0): SCB 0x1 timedout while recovery in progress Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: sd2(ahc1:2:0): SCB 0x2 timedout while recovery in progress Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): SCB 0x4 - timed out in datain phase, SCSISIGI == 0x54 Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: SEQADDR = 0x48 SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x7 SSTAT1 = 0x2 Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): no longer in timeout Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: ahc1: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 4 SCBs aborted Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: sd1(ahc1:1:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,2 Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: , retries:2 Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: sd2(ahc1:2:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: sd2(ahc1:2:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred Aug 25 03:29:24 shrimp /kernel: , retries:3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 25 12:45:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22398 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:45:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22390 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottd@cloud9.net) Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (IDENT:TnkxYKeXXuvjMVVsqAbfFljzx++cdFje@earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0/rc-19980602) with SMTP id PAA19797 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:44:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Drassinower To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Intel 100+ troubles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In May I posted about a problem we were (and still are) having with Intel 100+ cards with 2.2.6. The machines are connected to a Cisco Catalyst 2916 switch. Some NFS operations, on large (200+ megabyte) files or files that are being constantly updated will simply hang; ps shows them as being in disk wait state. They never recover and won't die. Running tail, grep, or sz on one of these files will reproduce the problem almost every time. A 2.2.6 NFS client reading files from a BSDI 2.1 NFS server also reproduces the problem. I have since tried a Catalyst 2924 (which has silghtly different hardware compared to the 2916), a Catalyst 2926 (which is similar to a Catalyst 5000 and entirely different from the other mid-range Catalyst switches), and an SMC dumb 10/100 hub. In any of these cases, the problem arises. 100 megabit full or half duplex, 10 megabit full or half duplex, same thing. When running the same machines with a 10 megabit dumb hub or a 10 megabit SMC switch, this problem doesn't exist. There was some discussion about Cisco switches being suspect, but the fact that the problem persists with a dumb hub that is running at 100 megabits makes me think something weird is going on with FreeBSD, and not the hardware. Any ideas? -- Scott M. Drassinower scottd@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Consulting, Inc. White Plains, NY +1 914 696-4000 http://www.cloud9.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 25 14:53:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14641 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:53:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (ppp-asfm08--206.sirius.net [205.134.241.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14615 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:53:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (localhost.parag.codegen.com [127.0.0.1]) by pinhead.parag.codegen.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04488; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:52:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) Message-Id: <199808252152.OAA04488@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: john hood cc: Joe Gleason , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UDMA Support In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 02:10:26 EDT." <19980825021026.12093@owl.org> X-Face: =O'Kj74icvU|oS*<7gS/8'\Pbpm}okVj*@UC!IgkmZQAO!W[|iBiMs*|)n*`X ]pW%m>Oz_mK^Gdazsr.Z0/JsFS1uF8gBVIoChGwOy{EK=<6g?aHE`[\S]C]T0Wm X-URL: http://www.codegen.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:52:34 -0700 From: Parag Patel Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >-current supports DMA, but not Ultra DMA, which is faster and has >CRC error checking. That's odd - I thought it supported UDMA. Perhaps you meant -stable? My reading of the file /sys/pci/ide_pci.c suggests that 3.0 does support UDMA for PCI-IDE chips. I made some additions to it to support the newer CMD646U2 PCI-UIDE chip but they haven't made it into the source tree yet (I don't know who the new owner of this code is). The individual chip dmainit routines are supposed to turn on udma mode if possible. It doesn't look like the plain ISA /sys/i386/isa/wd.c driver turns on UDMA. If you have a newer motherboard with PCI-based IDE controller the code should turn on UDMA mode for those drives that support it, unless I've missed something. (The throughput on my UDMA Quantum on the CMD646U2 card in my 486 test machine seems to suggest that it is running in UDMA mode. I have dumped various registers etc when I was debugging my driver mods that claimed it was in UDMA mode.) -- Parag To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 25 17:21:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07484 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp-d3.dialup.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07477 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:20:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00891; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:17:45 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808251717.RAA00891@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Scott Drassinower cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel 100+ troubles In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:44:46 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:17:44 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > In May I posted about a problem we were (and still are) having with Intel > 100+ cards with 2.2.6. The machines are connected to a Cisco Catalyst > 2916 switch. > > Some NFS operations, on large (200+ megabyte) files or files that are > being constantly updated will simply hang; ps shows them as being in disk > wait state. They never recover and won't die. Running tail, grep, or sz > on one of these files will reproduce the problem almost every time. A > 2.2.6 NFS client reading files from a BSDI 2.1 NFS server also reproduces > the problem. There have been some serious NFS-related fixes subsequent to 2.2.6; it is quite possible that you're seeing the bugs that these addressed rather than a hardware problem. It is useful to add the 'l' flag to ps(1) and see what the hung processes have in their WCHAN field, as this gives more detail than just "disk wait". If you have an opportunity, you might want to build a 2.2.7 kernel and see if you can reproduce the problems. If you don't have the resources to do this in-house, you should be able to ask on the freebsd-stable list for someone to generate a -stable kernel for you to try. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 25 17:34:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09360 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:34:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09010 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:32:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottd@cloud9.net) Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (IDENT:He0KFf5pb2SG8W+WbHgMZTdG5+OMAmCg@earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0/rc-19980602) with SMTP id UAA15373; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:28:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Drassinower To: Mike Smith cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel 100+ troubles In-Reply-To: <199808251717.RAA00891@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > There have been some serious NFS-related fixes subsequent to 2.2.6; it > is quite possible that you're seeing the bugs that these addressed > rather than a hardware problem. It is useful to add the 'l' flag to > ps(1) and see what the hung processes have in their WCHAN field, as > this gives more detail than just "disk wait". UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 0 2438 2429 0 -18 0 228 520 vmopar D p4- 0:00.02 sz vmopar is new to me. > If you have an opportunity, you might want to build a 2.2.7 kernel and > see if you can reproduce the problems. If you don't have the resources > to do this in-house, you should be able to ask on the freebsd-stable > list for someone to generate a -stable kernel for you to try. Will I need a 2.2.7 system to build a 2.2.7 kernel? It's just really weird that the problem only seems to happen at 100 megabits. The only thing I haven't done at this point is taken out the fxp card and tried something else. -- Scott M. Drassinower scottd@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Consulting, Inc. White Plains, NY +1 914 696-4000 http://www.cloud9.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 25 17:42:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10511 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:42:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gargoyle.bazzle.com (gargoyle.bazzle.com [206.103.246.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA10492 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:42:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejc@bazzle.com) Received: (qmail 26417 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1998 00:41:31 -0000 Received: from gargoyle.bazzle.com (206.103.246.189) by gargoyle.bazzle.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 1998 00:41:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:41:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Eric J. Chet" To: john hood cc: Joe Gleason , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UDMA Support In-Reply-To: <19980825021026.12093@owl.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, john hood wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 1998 at 07:29:03PM +0000, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Does FreeBSD have Ultra DMA support or will it have it? > > > > FreeBSD 3.0 supports IDE DMA. SCSI disks will give better performance > > in multiple-disk or high load scenarios. > > -current supports DMA, but not Ultra DMA, which is faster and has > CRC error checking. (I haven't got an Ultra DMA motherboard and > drive to code/debug on.) This is not much of a problem yet, as > IDE drives cannot yet use all the bandwidth of standard DMA, but > it looks like it will be soon, the way IDE drives are going. :) Hello -current has supported UDMA for about a year or so, I use the Promise controller myself. Later, ejc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 25 17:53:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12120 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:53:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from owl.org (owl.org [198.206.215.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12106 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:53:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cgull@owl.org) Received: (from cgull@localhost) by owl.org (8.8.8/8.8.8/cgull) id UAA13028; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:52:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cgull) Message-ID: <19980825205232.19718@owl.org> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:52:32 -0400 From: john hood To: Parag Patel Cc: Joe Gleason , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UDMA Support References: <19980825021026.12093@owl.org> <199808252152.OAA04488@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1 In-Reply-To: <199808252152.OAA04488@pinhead.parag.codegen.com>; from Parag Patel on Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 02:52:34PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 02:52:34PM -0700, Parag Patel wrote: > > >-current supports DMA, but not Ultra DMA, which is faster and has > >CRC error checking. > > That's odd - I thought it supported UDMA. Perhaps you meant -stable? Urrgh, I should know better, I wrote it, after all :) What I really should have said is that the error-checking features of UDMA (which are somewhat important) aren't supported properly. The timing setup and enabling of UDMA is supported. So UDMA is partly supported. -stable hasn't got any DMA support, and nobody's hurrying to implement it, though I keep telling myself I'll spend the while doing the backport sometime... > My reading of the file /sys/pci/ide_pci.c suggests that 3.0 does support UDMA for PCI-IDE chips. I made some additions to it to support the newer CMD646U2 PCI-UIDE chip but they haven't made it into the source tree yet (I don't know who the new owner of this code is). The individual chip dmainit routines are supposed to turn on udma mode if possible. Soren's more or less in charge of the ATA/ATAPI code. I wrote the ATA DMA code, so people ask me about it. I've submitted the code you sent me, along with a bunch of other updates, to Soren, who has been...sitting on it :) Soon, soon. --jh -- Mr. Belliveau said, "the difference was the wise, John Hood, cgull intelligent look on the face of the cow." He was @ *so* right. --Ofer Inbar owl.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 25 18:36:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17436 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:36:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17431 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id TAA18461; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:29:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:29:27 -0600 (MDT) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199808260129.TAA18461@narnia.plutotech.com> To: David Wolfskill cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI bus timeouts Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.hardware In-Reply-To: <199808251804.LAA23506@pau-amma.whistle.com> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971204 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <199808251804.LAA23506@pau-amma.whistle.com> you wrote: > Any hints or tips welcomed. 1. Check your cables and termination on ahc0. You're getting parity errors and cables, or termination are the likely cause of these errors. 2. Switch to using CAM. sd1 is returning busy status maybe because it is doing a thermal recal (who knows). The old SCSI layer doesn't have the facilities to deal with a busy device gracefully, we end up beating on the drive hoping it will accept the command and we probably confuse it to the point of not working. The CAM patches are available at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam. See the README file at that location for more details. > Thanks, > david > -- > David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator > dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 26 08:58:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22945 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:58:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.nitek.ru (mail.nitek.ru [194.247.139.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22939 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:58:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@nitek.ru) Received: from igor (igor@igor.nitek.ru [194.247.139.10]) by mail.nitek.ru (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10764 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:55:11 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199808261555.TAA10764@mail.nitek.ru> From: "Igor Sysoev" To: Subject: ThinkPad 365X and 3C589D Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:57:53 +0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had installed FreeBSD-2.2.7 on ThinkPad 365X via 3C589D using driver zp0. After this I build kernel with pccard support and ep0. (I didn't use PAO.) When I insert 3C589D, pccardd found it and activate ep0, run ifconfig and route. If I remove now card, pccardd delete route and interface, release irq. But if I remove card after some network activity (i.e. running ping) notebook hang. with best regards, Igor Sysoev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 26 10:32:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08542 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:32:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from amber.eaznet.com ([216.19.20.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08480 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:32:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (admin.eaznet.com [216.19.20.16]) by amber.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09428 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:32:57 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <35E44770.54CB747@eaznet.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:35:45 -0700 From: Eddie Fry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mylex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looking through the archives, I see that the Mylex DAC960 is not supported, but those were all from January. Is the DAC960 still not supported under 2.2.7? Thanks, -- Eddie Fry EAZNet Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 26 10:45:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10793 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:45:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral.com (gw100.feral.com [192.67.166.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10780 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:45:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA32533; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:44:54 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:44:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Eddie Fry cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mylex In-Reply-To: <35E44770.54CB747@eaznet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I asked Leonard who did the Linux driver if I might use his as a base, but he hasn't responded. On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Eddie Fry wrote: > Looking through the archives, I see that the Mylex DAC960 is not > supported, but those were all from January. Is the DAC960 still not > supported under 2.2.7? > > Thanks, > > -- > Eddie Fry > EAZNet Internet Services > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 26 12:03:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25539 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:03:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclops.xtra.co.nz (cyclops.xtra.co.nz [202.27.184.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25527 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker (210-55-210-32.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.55.210.32]) by cyclops.xtra.co.nz (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA08560 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:02:23 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199808261902.HAA08560@cyclops.xtra.co.nz> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: DVL Software Limited To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:02:40 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: IDE cards with two interfaces Reply-to: junkmale@xtra.co.nz X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is filled with terminology which may not be correct. I'm not sure what's a device or a controller or an interface. Please correct when I've gone wrong. I have a IDE card contains two IDE interfaces (i.e. you can attach two IDE cables to it). One is marked IDE/VLB, the other IDE/ISA. I've been running wd0 and wcd0 using IDE/ISA. I'm trying to add a new disk to this system. I tried adding wdc1 to the kernel, but that just makes things freeze. Then I had a thought: what about making wd1 refer to wdco drive 2? Well, I can report that this seems to succeed. I have a wd1 appearing in dmesg. And running fdisk from within /stand/sysinstall gives me both wd0 and wd1. However, both wd1 and wd0 appear to be the same physical disk as the properties reported within dmesg are those of the 5G disk and nothing resembling the 330M disk appears. Perhaps I should just abandon my 330M.... :( Van anyone point me in the right direction? Should I be added a new IDE controller or just a disk to my kernel? This area is very hazy. cheers. -- Dan Langille DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - my [mis]adventures http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 26 14:44:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26473 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:44:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from london.physics.purdue.edu (london.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.67.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26462 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:44:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crh@physics.purdue.edu) Received: (from crh@localhost) by london.physics.purdue.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13308 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:43:56 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Hunter Message-Id: <199808262143.QAA13308@london.physics.purdue.edu> Subject: Plus+ Hardcard will not boot? To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:43:56 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to install 2.2.7 on a Plus+ Hardcard 40 drive to use as a plug in diagnostics board. I've checked the FAQs etc and it says that all MFM drives ( as I believe this is ) are supported, though I know they are "a little" non standard. What happens is that when the boot floppy is loading I get the spinner and then it freezes ( always on a verticle bar, if that makes a difference ) and reboots. Any chance on getting this to work? I can provide more information if needed. Thanks, Charles Hunter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 26 16:22:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15187 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15158 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:22:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from localhost (kpielorz@localhost) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA03337; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:21:36 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:21:36 +0100 (BST) From: Karl Pielorz To: Eddie Fry cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mylex In-Reply-To: <35E44770.54CB747@eaznet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Eddie Fry wrote: > Looking through the archives, I see that the Mylex DAC960 is not > supported, but those were all from January. Is the DAC960 still not > supported under 2.2.7? > > Thanks, Hi, I beleive someone is working on the Mylex driver at the moment... I seem to remember them requesting a 'major' device number a while ago in -hackers... I'll see if I can dig the details out... Regards, Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 26 20:54:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25701 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:54:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from magpie.ece.arizona.edu (magpie.ece.arizona.edu [150.135.4.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25696 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@magpie.ece.arizona.edu) Received: (from john@localhost) by magpie.ece.arizona.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02493; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:53:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from john) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:53:54 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199808270353.VAA02493@magpie.ece.arizona.edu> From: John Galbraith To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: GPIB driver testers wanted Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My GPIB driver for National GPIB cards (GPIB-AT and GPIB-AT/TNT) is coming along. It is nearing the point of almost being useful to somebody. If you are interested in trying it out (and I haven't already sent it to you) let me know, and I will send it out. (Unfortunately, I don't have a web page or ftp server suitable for this purpose.) Thanks, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 26 22:42:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA11801 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 22:42:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles320.castles.com [208.214.167.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA11774 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 22:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01186; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 22:39:40 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808262239.WAA01186@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Charles Hunter cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plus+ Hardcard will not boot? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:43:56 EST." <199808262143.QAA13308@london.physics.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 22:39:38 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > I'm trying to install 2.2.7 on a Plus+ Hardcard 40 drive to use > as a plug in diagnostics board. I've checked the FAQs etc and > it says that all MFM drives ( as I believe this is ) are supported, though > I know they are "a little" non standard. > > What happens is that when the boot floppy is loading I get the spinner > and then it freezes ( always on a verticle bar, if that makes a difference ) > and reboots. > > Any chance on getting this to work? I can provide more information if > needed. If this is an 8-bit card, then it's not supported. The handbook *should* say that controllers compatible with the WD1003 are supported talking to MFM drives. The hardcards I've met aren't WD1003 compatible. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 26 23:58:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA21401 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:58:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles320.castles.com [208.214.167.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA21281 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:57:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01798; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:54:50 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808262354.XAA01798@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Igor Sysoev" cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ThinkPad 365X and 3C589D In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:57:53 +0400." <199808261555.TAA10764@mail.nitek.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:54:49 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I had installed FreeBSD-2.2.7 on ThinkPad 365X via 3C589D using > driver zp0. After this I build kernel with pccard support and ep0. > (I didn't use PAO.) When I insert 3C589D, pccardd found it and > activate ep0, run ifconfig and route. If I remove now card, > pccardd delete route and interface, release irq. But if I remove > card after some network activity (i.e. running ping) notebook hang. After network activity, or during network activity? The PCCARD standard doesn't allow for clean removal of an active card. Doing this is likely to cause you serious problems. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 27 00:49:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA28255 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:49:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.nitek.ru (mail.nitek.ru [194.247.139.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA28166 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:48:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@nitek.ru) Received: from igor (igor.nitek.ru [194.247.139.10]) by mail.nitek.ru (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12074; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:42:52 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199808270742.LAA12074@mail.nitek.ru> From: "Igor Sysoev" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: Subject: Re: ThinkPad 365X and 3C589D Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:44:54 +0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I had installed FreeBSD-2.2.7 on ThinkPad 365X via 3C589D using > > driver zp0. After this I build kernel with pccard support and ep0. > > (I didn't use PAO.) When I insert 3C589D, pccardd found it and > > activate ep0, run ifconfig and route. If I remove now card, > > pccardd delete route and interface, release irq. But if I remove > > card after some network activity (i.e. running ping) notebook hang. > > After network activity, or during network activity? > > The PCCARD standard doesn't allow for clean removal of an active card. > Doing this is likely to cause you serious problems. Today I found that ThinkPad hang if 'apmconf -e' running and I try to remove 3C589D. So I disabled running 'apmconf -e' and pccardd at boot time. So it's log: Aug 27 11:25:16 zx /kernel: apm0 on isa Aug 27 11:25:16 zx /kernel: apm: found APM BIOS version 1.1 Aug 27 11:25:16 zx /kernel: PC-Card Intel 82365 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) Aug 27 11:25:16 zx /kernel: pcic: controller irq 5 Aug 27 11:25:17 zx /kernel: Initializing PC-card drivers: ep sio System booted, 'apmconf -e' isn't running. I started pccardd and insert 3C589D: Aug 27 11:25:51 zx pccardd[173]: pccardd started Aug 27 11:25:55 zx /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 Aug 27 11:26:05 zx /kernel: ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:08:95:2a:f6 For 3c589D pccardd runs echo only in /etc/pccard.conf. I wait some time and remove card: Aug 27 11:26:17 zx /kernel: ep0: unload Aug 27 11:26:17 zx /kernel: Return IRQ=10 Aug 27 11:26:17 zx /kernel: Card removed, slot 0 Aug 27 11:26:17 zx /kernel: stray irq 10 I wait some time and insert card again: Aug 27 11:27:17 zx /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 Aug 27 11:27:28 zx /kernel: ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:08:95:2a:f6 Now I run 'ifconfig ep0 inet ...' then 'ifconfig ep0 delete' then remove card and system hang up. The single keys that working now is Fn-F7 (they switch between LCD and external monitor). If I remove 3C589D with running 'apmconf -e' notebook hang up even I didn't run 'ifconfig ep0 ..' before - without any network activity. with best regards, Igor Sysoev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 27 01:21:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02961 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 01:21:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.online.samara.ru (SamaraOnline.customers.samara.net [195.128.128.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA02951 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 01:21:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@ns.online.samara.ru) Received: (from igor@localhost) by ns.online.samara.ru (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA14256 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:19:45 GMT To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Organization: Cronyx Ltd. From: "System Administrator" Date: Thu, 27 Aug 98 13:19:44 +0000 X-Mailer: BML [UNIX Beauty Mail v.1.39] Subject: 3c563d PC card Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have 3c563d PC card and I want use it under fbsd 2.2.6, but where I attempt booting with zp driver with different I/O addres I receive message: card not found. How I can know the I/O addres and IRQ of my card ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 27 10:40:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16363 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16282 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sw@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.1.110.249]) by ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA21137 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:39:23 -0700 Message-ID: <35E599DF.D7D59A71@home.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:39:43 -0700 From: Sanjay Waghray Organization: Sanjay Waghray X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-AtHome0404 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Biostar M5ALA motherboard / AMD K6 233 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anybody have a working system with the Biostar M5ALA and an AMD K6 233 running at 66Mhz? The board is based on a ALi Aladin V chipset. The system has: Biostar M5ALA running at 66 MHz AMD K6 233 32MB DIMM - 1 S3 Virge clone video card Western Digital IDE drive with previously installed 2.2.6 STABLE (~6/10/98) 3Com 3C509 ethernet card It boots but reports about an unrecognized ACER IDE controller The system crashes before completing multi-user boot; I will try and provide a trace back. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 27 10:46:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17983 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:46:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17889 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:46:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sw@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.1.110.249]) by ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA25299 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:45:10 -0700 Message-ID: <35E59B3B.D9AF9230@home.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:45:31 -0700 From: Sanjay Waghray Organization: Sanjay Waghray X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-AtHome0404 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Fwd: Biostar M5ALA motherboard / AMD K6 233] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D6776E7E15EF21F672E98284" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D6776E7E15EF21F672E98284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, the message slipped away before I finished. I'm not on the hardware list; if anybody has any comments or ideas or working systems, with the above configuration please email me directly at sw@home.com. Thanks in advance, Sanjay --------------D6776E7E15EF21F672E98284 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <35E599DF.D7D59A71@home.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:39:43 -0700 From: Sanjay Waghray Organization: Sanjay Waghray X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-AtHome0404 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Biostar M5ALA motherboard / AMD K6 233 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anybody have a working system with the Biostar M5ALA and an AMD K6 233 running at 66Mhz? The board is based on a ALi Aladin V chipset. The system has: Biostar M5ALA running at 66 MHz AMD K6 233 32MB DIMM - 1 S3 Virge clone video card Western Digital IDE drive with previously installed 2.2.6 STABLE (~6/10/98) 3Com 3C509 ethernet card It boots but reports about an unrecognized ACER IDE controller The system crashes before completing multi-user boot; I will try and provide a trace back. --------------D6776E7E15EF21F672E98284-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 27 14:06:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29686 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:06:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zephyr.cybercom.net (zephyr.cybercom.net [209.21.146.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29654 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:05:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ksmm@threespace.com) Received: from shell1.cybercom.net (ksmm@shell1.cybercom.net [209.21.136.6]) by zephyr.cybercom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA28441 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ksmm@localhost) by shell1.cybercom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25202 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:04:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.cybercom.net: ksmm owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:04:50 -0400 (EDT) From: The Classiest Man Alive X-Sender: ksmm@shell1.cybercom.net To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CD-R(W)s Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's time to replace my old CD-ROM and I'm considering moving to a CD-R or a CD-RW. I'm wondering how well these devices work with FreeBSD 2.2.x. Is it possible to burn CDs using FreeBSD (e.g., is there softare available for this purpose)? Does they function normally as CD-ROM replacements or are there any special considerations? Does anybody have any good/bad experiences with a particular manufacturer or model? Thanks, K.S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 27 15:50:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19914 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19817 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00875; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:46:21 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808271546.PAA00875@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Igor Sysoev" cc: "Mike Smith" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ThinkPad 365X and 3C589D In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:44:54 +0400." <199808270742.LAA12074@mail.nitek.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:46:21 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > The PCCARD standard doesn't allow for clean removal of an active card. > > Doing this is likely to cause you serious problems. > > Today I found that ThinkPad hang if 'apmconf -e' running and I try to > remove 3C589D. Ouch. This sounds like it's a different problem though. > So I disabled running 'apmconf -e' and pccardd at boot > time. So it's log: > > Aug 27 11:25:16 zx /kernel: apm0 on isa > Aug 27 11:25:16 zx /kernel: apm: found APM BIOS version 1.1 > Aug 27 11:25:16 zx /kernel: PC-Card Intel 82365 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) > Aug 27 11:25:16 zx /kernel: pcic: controller irq 5 > Aug 27 11:25:17 zx /kernel: Initializing PC-card drivers: ep sio > > System booted, 'apmconf -e' isn't running. I started pccardd and > insert 3C589D: > > Aug 27 11:25:51 zx pccardd[173]: pccardd started > Aug 27 11:25:55 zx /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 > Aug 27 11:26:05 zx /kernel: ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:08:95:2a:f6 > > For 3c589D pccardd runs echo only in /etc/pccard.conf. > I wait some time and remove card: > > Aug 27 11:26:17 zx /kernel: ep0: unload > Aug 27 11:26:17 zx /kernel: Return IRQ=10 > Aug 27 11:26:17 zx /kernel: Card removed, slot 0 > Aug 27 11:26:17 zx /kernel: stray irq 10 > > I wait some time and insert card again: > > Aug 27 11:27:17 zx /kernel: Card inserted, slot 0 > Aug 27 11:27:28 zx /kernel: ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:08:95:2a:f6 > > Now I run 'ifconfig ep0 inet ...' then 'ifconfig ep0 delete' then remove > card and system hang up. The single keys that working now is Fn-F7 (they > switch between LCD and external monitor). If you try alt-ctrl-esc, what happens? It sounds to me as though you're in the interrupt routine for the 'ep' driver and spinning endlessly. > If I remove 3C589D with running 'apmconf -e' notebook hang up even I > didn't run 'ifconfig ep0 ..' before - without any network activity. I think *this* may have something to do with the interaction between APM and your hardware; it seems to me that you might be getting an APM event related to the card removal. If you're able to pursue these issues a little further, I'd be interested to know if you turn anything up. Needless to say, I use APM and plug/remove cards on a regular basis (including a 3c589), so I know it's _supposed_ to work. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 27 18:16:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15007 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:16:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from control.colossus.dyn.ml.org (pm6-42.sba1.avtel.net [207.71.222.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14944 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:16:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@colossus.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from dburr@localhost) by control.colossus.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27719; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Computer Help From: Donald Burr To: The Classiest Man Alive Subject: RE: CD-R(W)s Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My secret spy satellite informs me that on 27-Aug-98, The Classiest Man Alive wrote: > It's time to replace my old CD-ROM and I'm considering moving to a CD-R > or > a CD-RW. I'm wondering how well these devices work with FreeBSD 2.2.x. They work very well indeed. > Is it possible to burn CDs using FreeBSD (e.g., is there softare > available > for this purpose)? Yes. Look at /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrecord, and /usr/ports/sysutils/mkisofs, and /usr/ports/sysutils/mkhybrid*. > Does they function normally as CD-ROM replacements or are there any > special considerations? Yes. They function as normal CD-ROM drives when not being used as CD writers. You can mount and unmount them, install FreeBSD from them, etc. > Does anybody have any good/bad experiences with a particular > manufacturer > or model? I purchased a Sony CD-R CDU926S at a computer show earlier this year for just under $300 (that's including tax and everything). (By now, the price will probably have come down significantly on these) This is a 6x read/2x write SCSI device, and it works like a charm. I've burned well over a hundred CD's with it, and the only failures I've had are when I screwed up something myself. I am quite happy with this unit, and would gladly buy the same one if I needed to buy a new CD-R right now. --- Donald Burr *NEW EMAIL ADDRESS!* | PGP: Your WWW HomePage: http://DonaldBurr.base.org/ ICQ#16997506 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 27 18:23:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16734 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:23:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from healy.dpac.tas.gov.au ([147.109.254.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16702 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:23:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from C.Nairn@dpac.tas.gov.au) Received: from pc0123 (pc0123.dpac.tas.gov.au [147.109.150.123]) by healy.dpac.tas.gov.au (8.8.7/DPACV8) with SMTP id LAA25518 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:21:04 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199808280121.LAA25518@healy.dpac.tas.gov.au> X-Sender: cpn@mailroom.dpac.tas.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:22:28 +1000 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Carey Nairn Subject: problem with Exabyte 8505 tape drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I'm having problems with this drive and FreeBSD-2.2.5, connected to an Adaptec 1505 PNP SCSI card. The (relevant) dmesg output is as follows: ... Aug 26 20:58:16 bsd /kernel: CSN 2 Vendor ID: ADP1505 [0x05159004] Serial 0x0db37f3c Aug 26 20:58:16 bsd /kernel: PnP: override config for CSN 2 LDN 0 vend_id 0x05159004 Aug 26 20:58:16 bsd /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: ... Aug 26 20:58:16 bsd /kernel: aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa Aug 26 20:58:16 bsd /kernel: aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle Aug 26 20:58:16 bsd /kernel: (aic0:2:0): "EXABYTE EXB-8505 0050" type 1 removable SCSI 2 Aug 26 20:58:16 bsd /kernel: st0(aic0:2:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty ... Note that the drive is not empty as reported. When I try to access the drive, I get the following on the console. Aug 26 21:09:52 bsd /kernel: st0(aic0:2:0): timed out Aug 26 21:11:32 bsd /kernel: st0(aic0:2:0): timed out Aug 26 21:13:12 bsd /kernel: st0(aic0:2:0): timed out I have checked termination etc. and this all looks OK. The tape drive is the only device on the scsi bus. Any thoughts on this would be great. Thanks, Carey Nairn ___________________________________________________________ Carey Nairn Mailto:C.Nairn@dpac.tas.gov.au Network and Systems Administrator Information Systems Branch Phone: (03) 6233 3077 Dept of Premier & Cabinet Fax: (03) 6224 3174 GPO Box 123b Hobart, Tasmania 7001 AUSTRALIA ___________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 27 19:45:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02065 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:45:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01973 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA23467; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:13:27 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:13:24 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: The Classiest Man Alive Subject: RE: CD-R(W)s Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 27-Aug-98 The Classiest Man Alive wrote: > It's time to replace my old CD-ROM and I'm considering moving to a CD-R or > a CD-RW. I'm wondering how well these devices work with FreeBSD 2.2.x. Quite well :) > Is it possible to burn CDs using FreeBSD (e.g., is there softare available > for this purpose)? Yep, you need either mkhybrid (I prefer this because it does Joliet FS) or mkisofs, these programs create the CD filesystem. You also need cdrecord or cdwrite which actually talk to the CD-R and put the CD FS image on them. I use cdrecord. > Does they function normally as CD-ROM replacements or are there any > special considerations? They work find as CD-ROM's but are usually slower than a normal CD (ie 8x). > Does anybody have any good/bad experiences with a particular manufacturer > or model? I have used a Ricoh-6200 (nice drive, and does RW disks, but only a 2x write), a Sony CDU-948S (I didn't like them, I killed 3 of them in a week - I don't know how..), and a Compro CW-7502 (nice drive, only does CD-R's but is 4x write, and I haven't had any problems) Also note that some software like tosha or cdda2wav might be useful if you want to turn your CD collection into mpegs (CD-R's are great for this because they are much more precise than a normal drive). Also, 8hz-mp3 is a good free mp3 encoder. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 27 22:17:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23884 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:17:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.online.samara.ru (SamaraOnline.customers.samara.net [195.128.128.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23862 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:16:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@ns.online.samara.ru) Received: (from igor@localhost) by ns.online.samara.ru (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA18712 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:15:21 GMT To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Organization: Cronyx Ltd. From: "System Administrator" Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 10:15:20 +0000 X-Mailer: BML [UNIX Beauty Mail v.1.39] Subject: [Q] PC-CARD problem Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I insert in kernel config file next strings contpoller card0 controller pcic0 at card? controller pcic1 at card? in boot time I have message Initializing PC-card drivers: sio ... pccardc: /dev/card0 not configured if i started pccardd -d, it say: no PC-CARD slots under win'95 thats work where is problem ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 27 23:05:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29025 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:05:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles24.castles.com [208.214.165.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29000 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:05:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00609; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:02:14 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808272302.XAA00609@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "System Administrator" cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] PC-CARD problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:15:20 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:02:13 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I insert in kernel config file next strings > > contpoller card0 > controller pcic0 at card? > controller pcic1 at card? > > in boot time I have message > > Initializing PC-card drivers: sio > ... > pccardc: /dev/card0 not configured > > if i started pccardd -d, it say: no PC-CARD slots > under win'95 thats work > where is problem ? Either your spelling above, or you don't have a compatible PCCARD controller. Is one listed in the boot messages? If your system has a dual-mode PCCARD/CardBus controller, make sure it's in PCCARD mode. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 28 02:37:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24665 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 02:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.nitek.ru (mail.nitek.ru [194.247.139.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24654 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 02:37:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@nitek.ru) Received: from igor (igor@igor.nitek.ru [194.247.139.10]) by mail.nitek.ru (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04099; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:32:44 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199808280932.NAA04099@mail.nitek.ru> From: "Igor Sysoev" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: Subject: Re: ThinkPad 365X and 3C589D Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:34:55 +0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Now I run 'ifconfig ep0 inet ...' then 'ifconfig ep0 delete' then remove > > card and system hang up. The single keys that working now is Fn-F7 (they > > switch between LCD and external monitor). > > If you try alt-ctrl-esc, what happens? It sounds to me as though > you're in the interrupt routine for the 'ep' driver and spinning > endlessly. I haven't debugger in kernel but when try a-c-e while all this hangups message "No debugger in kernel" didn't even appear. > > If I remove 3C589D with running 'apmconf -e' notebook hang up even I > > didn't run 'ifconfig ep0 ..' before - without any network activity. > > I think *this* may have something to do with the interaction between APM > and your hardware; it seems to me that you might be getting an APM > event related to the card removal. > > If you're able to pursue these issues a little further, I'd be > interested to know if you turn anything up. Needless to say, I use APM > and plug/remove cards on a regular basis (including a 3c589), so I know > it's _supposed_ to work. Yes, it's seems to me too that problem is mainly in interaction between APM and PC Card. So: 1. ThinkPad hangs when I remove 3C589D while APM enabled (apmconf -e) 2. If APM disabled ThinkPad doesn't hang up when I remove 3c589D for the first time. (in case when pccardd doesn't run anything except echo). 3. ThinkPad hangs up when I try to remove 3C589D for the second time. 4. ThinkPad doesn't hangs up when I try to remove 3c589D after I'd ran 'ifconfig ep0 inet ...', 'ifconfig ep0 delete'. 5. ThinkPad hangs up when I try to remove 3c589D after I'd ran 'ifconfig ep0 inet ...', ping, 'ifconfig ep0 delete' - after some network activity. 6. When I go to suspend mode, kernel unload ep0, return irq, disable slot. After resume kernel insert card, and load ep0. 7. Keys that switch CPU to SMM mode works while hang ups. I'll to look two modem cards. And I'll try to install PAO. PAO's pccardc allows to power off card before removing, may be it helps. with best regards, Igor Sysoev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 28 02:40:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA25104 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 02:40:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vortex.misterweb.com (vortex.misterweb.com [206.234.38.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25098 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 02:40:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zaph0d@misterweb.com) Received: from localhost (zaph0d@localhost) by vortex.misterweb.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id FAA22090 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 05:41:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 05:41:30 -0500 (EST) From: misterweb To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: AHA2940/Compaq 1 gig drive related question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Currently i'm running FreeBSD 2.2.7, and it works great. Except I have to be there to boot it. The reason for that is, whenever it comes up, instead of going to the correct drive to get the kernel (at the boot: prompt), I have to press F5, then F1, to get to a prompt. THen it wants to goto ID 1 to boot. I want it to goto ID 0. I have configured everything I have found, installed 3 seperate types of FreeBSD, and various partition configurations, with no avail. As well as recompileing the kernel, makeing sure the 'root on sd0' etc etc is all setup correctly. The closest solution I can find listed anywhere, is how the partitioning is done with the sectors. I've tried many different partition configs, with the same result. Can I atleast, at the minimum, create a boot-floppy to auto-load the correct kernel? Or is there prehaps a place I can go to force the bootloader to look on a certain drive to boot? It's just sd0a/kernel, so it should be finding it by default. Thanks, and I apprechiate any help someone could provide.. jpm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 28 09:01:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06543 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06537 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA18519; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:59:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA02936; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:58:58 -0600 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:58:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199808281558.JAA02936@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: "System Administrator" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] PC-CARD problem In-Reply-To: <199808272302.XAA00609@word.smith.net.au> References: <199808272302.XAA00609@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > in boot time I have message > > > > Initializing PC-card drivers: sio > > ... > > pccardc: /dev/card0 not configured .. > > Either your spelling above, or you don't have a compatible PCCARD > controller. Is one listed in the boot messages? It might be that the devices aren't made in /dev. Try # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV card0 card1 Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 28 12:32:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06280 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:32:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06255 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:32:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from kargl@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.8.8) id MAA13843 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl) From: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-Id: <199808281935.MAA13843@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: new gpib driver and select/poll issues To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:35:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ladies and Gents, John Galbraith has been writing a new GPIB driver. His effort appears to be targeted at a 2.2.x system. I'm trying to make his stuff work under -current, and I have run into a problem with the use of poll versus select in -current. In particular, the changes in revision 1.34 of sys/sys/conf.h have eliminated d_select_t and noselect which John uses. The d_select_t can be replaced by d_poll_t, but does one do about the noselect. This snippet is the part of the code in question. /* device switch entry table */ struct cdevsw gp_cdevsw = { (d_open_t *) gp_open, /* open */ (d_close_t *) gp_close, /* close */ (d_read_t *) gp_read, /* read */ (d_write_t *) gp_write, /* write */ (d_ioctl_t *) gp_ioctl, /* ioctl */ (d_stop_t *) nullstop, /* stop */ (d_reset_t *) nullreset, /* reset (not used) */ (d_devtotty_t *) nodevtotty,/* ttys */ (d_select_t *) noselect, /* select */ (d_mmap_t *) nommap, /* mmap */ (d_strategy_t *) nostrategy,/* strategy */ (char*) "gp", /* name */ NULL, /* struct bdevsw* */ -1 /* GP_CDEV_MAJOR */ /* major number of driver */ }; Is this the proper way to support both -current and 2.2.x? #ifdef __FreeBSD__ >= 3 (d_poll_t *) nopoll, #else (d_select_t *) noselect; #endif -- Steve finger kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~clesceri/kargl.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 28 13:38:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17351 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:38:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17342 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:38:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00923; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:35:31 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808281335.NAA00923@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Steven G. Kargl" cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new gpib driver and select/poll issues In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:35:59 MST." <199808281935.MAA13843@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:35:31 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Ladies and Gents, > > John Galbraith has been writing a new GPIB driver. His effort > appears to be targeted at a 2.2.x system. > > I'm trying to make his stuff work under -current, and I have > run into a problem with the use of poll versus select in -current. > In particular, the changes in revision 1.34 of sys/sys/conf.h > have eliminated d_select_t and noselect which John uses. The > d_select_t can be replaced by d_poll_t, but does one do about > the noselect. > > This snippet is the part of the code in question. Studying other drivers tends to indicate that it should become 'seltrue'. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 28 13:48:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18778 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:48:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18750 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:48:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from kargl@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.8.8) id NAA14051; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:51:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl) From: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-Id: <199808282051.NAA14051@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: new gpib driver and select/poll issues In-Reply-To: <199808281335.NAA00923@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Aug 28, 1998 1:35:31 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Mike Smith: > > Ladies and Gents, > > > > John Galbraith has been writing a new GPIB driver. His effort > > appears to be targeted at a 2.2.x system. > > > > I'm trying to make his stuff work under -current, and I have > > run into a problem with the use of poll versus select in -current. > > In particular, the changes in revision 1.34 of sys/sys/conf.h > > have eliminated d_select_t and noselect which John uses. The > > d_select_t can be replaced by d_poll_t, but does one do about > > the noselect. > > > > This snippet is the part of the code in question. > > Studying other drivers tends to indicate that it should become > 'seltrue'. > Okay. I'll see what happens. I don't have a 2.2.x system to compare against, but it seems to me to be some sort of negative logic. seltrue ---> select is true (a select function is available for this device driver). noselect --> no select function available. -- Steve finger kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~clesceri/kargl.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 28 13:57:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20109 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:57:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20098 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:57:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01021; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:54:04 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808281354.NAA01021@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Steven G. Kargl" cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new gpib driver and select/poll issues In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:51:10 MST." <199808282051.NAA14051@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:54:04 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Studying other drivers tends to indicate that it should become > > 'seltrue'. > > Okay. I'll see what happens. I don't have a 2.2.x system to > compare against, but it seems to me to be some sort of negative > logic. > > seltrue ---> select is true (a select function is available for > this device driver). > > noselect --> no select function available. No. "noselect" meant "there is no select function available". "seltrue" now means "there is no way to know whether data is available, so always assume there is". The GPIB driver should eventually support select/poll. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 28 22:52:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15945 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:52:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles244.castles.com [208.214.165.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15914 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:52:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00874; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:48:19 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808282248.WAA00874@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Igor Sysoev" cc: "Mike Smith" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ThinkPad 365X and 3C589D In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:34:55 +0400." <199808280932.NAA04099@mail.nitek.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:48:18 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Now I run 'ifconfig ep0 inet ...' then 'ifconfig ep0 delete' then > remove > > > card and system hang up. The single keys that working now is Fn-F7 > (they > > > switch between LCD and external monitor). > > > > If you try alt-ctrl-esc, what happens? It sounds to me as though > > you're in the interrupt routine for the 'ep' driver and spinning > > endlessly. > > I haven't debugger in kernel but when try a-c-e while all this hangups > message "No debugger in kernel" didn't even appear. Ok, that's what I was looking for. You still have SMI interrupts working, but the keyboard interrupt is out. It sounds like you're either locked up in the APM BIOS or in the kernel. > > If you're able to pursue these issues a little further, I'd be > > interested to know if you turn anything up. Needless to say, I use APM > > and plug/remove cards on a regular basis (including a 3c589), so I know > > it's _supposed_ to work. > > Yes, it's seems to me too that problem is mainly in interaction between APM > and > PC Card. So: > 1. ThinkPad hangs when I remove 3C589D while APM enabled (apmconf -e) > 2. If APM disabled ThinkPad doesn't hang up when I remove 3c589D for > the first time. (in case when pccardd doesn't run anything except echo). > 3. ThinkPad hangs up when I try to remove 3C589D for the second time. > 4. ThinkPad doesn't hangs up when I try to remove 3c589D after I'd ran > 'ifconfig ep0 inet ...', 'ifconfig ep0 delete'. > 5. ThinkPad hangs up when I try to remove 3c589D after I'd ran > 'ifconfig ep0 inet ...', ping, 'ifconfig ep0 delete' - after some > network activity. > 6. When I go to suspend mode, kernel unload ep0, return irq, disable slot. > After resume kernel insert card, and load ep0. > 7. Keys that switch CPU to SMM mode works while hang ups. > > I'll to look two modem cards. And I'll try to install PAO. PAO's pccardc > allows to power off card before removing, may be it helps. Ok. One other thing you could do is add a printf at the entry and exit of the epintr() routine in the ep driver, and see whether you end up stuck in there in case 5. I had this problem a while back with NE2000 clone cards, where the removal of the card can cause an interrupt, and once the card is gone, the interrupt bit is permanently set (reading empty port gives 0xff). In that case, we were still getting pcic interrupts, so it was possible to check the gone flag. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 29 00:13:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA24083 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:13:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles244.castles.com [208.214.165.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA24077 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:13:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01299; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:10:31 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808290010.AAA01299@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: misterweb cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AHA2940/Compaq 1 gig drive related question In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Aug 1998 05:41:30 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:10:30 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Currently i'm running FreeBSD 2.2.7, and it works great. Except I have to > be there to boot it. > > The reason for that is, whenever it comes up, instead of going to the > correct drive to get the kernel (at the boot: prompt), I have to press F5, > then F1, to get to a prompt. THen it wants to goto ID 1 to boot. I want it > to goto ID 0. That makes it sound like you don't have any bootblocks on sd0. What's on the first menu? Also, booteasy should remember your selections, so once you've hit F1/ F5, it should remember and do it itself next time. If it's not, you've got some really basic problems with your system. You can control what the bootstrap boots by default by sticking the boot string in /boot.config in the a partition of the first FreeBSD slice on the disk that the bootstrap comes from, eg. 'sd(0,a)/kernel'. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 29 00:48:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26943 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:48:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles244.castles.com [208.214.165.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26893 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:48:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01488; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:45:09 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808290045.AAA01488@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AHA2940/Compaq 1 gig drive related question In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:10:30 GMT." <199808290010.AAA01299@word.smith.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:45:08 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just in relation to this particular response, I'd like to replay a small snippet I received attempting to reply directly to mister zahph0d: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to vortex.misterweb.com.: >>> MAIL From: SIZE=1513 <<< 551 Fuck Yer Ass. 554 ... Service unavailable If you're reading this, zaph0d old chum, I suggest that your postmaster and a broken bottle would make a happy couple. (Needless to say, attempting a civilised reply to said postmaster received a similar response.) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 29 00:52:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA27418 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:52:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.online.samara.ru (SamaraOnline.customers.samara.net [195.128.128.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA27409 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:52:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@ns.online.samara.ru) Received: (from igor@localhost) by ns.online.samara.ru (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA23539 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:51:28 GMT To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199808281558.JAA02936@mt.sri.com> Message-ID: Organization: Cronyx Ltd. From: "System Administrator" Date: Sat, 29 Aug 98 12:51:28 +0000 X-Mailer: BML [UNIX Beauty Mail v.1.39] Subject: Re: [Q] PC-CARD problem Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > in boot time I have message > > > > > > Initializing PC-card drivers: sio > > > ... > > > pccardc: /dev/card0 not configured > .. > > > > Either your spelling above, or you don't have a compatible PCCARD > > controller. Is one listed in the boot messages? no > It might be that the devices aren't made in /dev. > > Try > # cd /dev > # ./MAKEDEV card0 card1 device exist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 29 01:13:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29685 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 01:13:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles244.castles.com [208.214.165.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA29680 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 01:13:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA02102; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 01:10:10 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808290110.BAA02102@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "System Administrator" cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] PC-CARD problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:51:28 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 01:10:09 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > in boot time I have message > > > > > > > > Initializing PC-card drivers: sio > > > > ... > > > > pccardc: /dev/card0 not configured > > .. > > > > > > Either your spelling above, or you don't have a compatible PCCARD > > > controller. Is one listed in the boot messages? > > no Well, that's probably the problem then; if it's not listed, we haven't found it. It's possible that you have a CardBus controller which can be switched to PCCARD mode (check your BIOS setup program), or you may have one of the PCCARD controllers that we don't support. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message