From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Nov 21 0:25:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A82014D25 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 00:25:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from bfg (scary.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.5]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06409 Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:22:43 GMT Message-ID: <024501bf33f9$9ef394e0$0200000a@bfg> From: "Roger Hardiman" To: "Kevin S. Brackett" , Subject: Re: Diamond Multimedia mx300 Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 07:59:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Aureal Vortex-2 - this board supported? There is the starts of aureal code in the NEWPCM driver in -current but Cameron said this was not finished. Ask Cameron Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Nov 21 9: 9:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK (ns4.help-desk.co.uk [212.240.170.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188F2151DF for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:09:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pgm@NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK) Received: (from root@localhost) by NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00502; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:14:12 GMT (envelope-from pgm) From: Patrick Mackeown Message-Id: <199911211714.RAA00502@NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK> Subject: Should I throw away this TV card? To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:14:12 +0000 (GMT) Cc: pgm@ns4.help-desk.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I bought a cheap TV card IMS TV Turbo, Philips FR1236 NTSC FM tuner added it to my FreeBSD version 3.3 (stable) PC and with these kernel options bktr0: rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.9.0 bti2c0: iicbb0: on bti2c0 iicbus0: on iicbb0 master-only iicsmb0: on iicbus0 smbus0: on iicsmb0 iic0: on iicbus0 smbus1: on bti2c0 Warning - card has no configuration EEPROM. Cannot determine card make. This may cause poor performance IMS TV Turbo, Philips FR1236 NTSC FM tuner. even the tweeking sysctl -w hw.bt848.tuner=10 manages to produce nothing but a blank screen. I run fxtv with these options. fxtv -antennaFreqSet weurope -inputFormat pal altering Format to Pal/M produces interference but I haven't been able to watch TV yet :-) I'm thinking of throwing the card away and buying a more expensive one, do you think it's worth trying any other last minute options? pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 22 20:17:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118741507D for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:17:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-246.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.246]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17654; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:16:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA05276; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:14:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:14:26 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Patrick Mackeown Cc: Roger Hardiman , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should I throw away this TV card? Message-ID: <19991122231426.A4435@ipass.net> References: <199911211714.RAA00502@NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <199911211714.RAA00502@NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Patrick Mackeown: | I bought a cheap TV card IMS TV Turbo, Philips FR1236 NTSC FM tuner ^^^^ |bktr0: rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.9.0 |IMS TV Turbo, Philips FR1236 NTSC FM tuner. | |even the tweeking sysctl -w hw.bt848.tuner=10 |manages to produce nothing but a blank screen. brooktree848.c: #define PHILIPS_FR1236_NTSC 9 <--- what you have #define PHILIPS_FR1216_PAL 10 #define PHILIPS_FR1236_SECAM 11 | I run fxtv with these options. |fxtv -antennaFreqSet weurope -inputFormat pal Well, if you really have an NTSC tuner, you have a card that doesn't support PAL. I doubt that trying to configure it as a PAL tuner is going to help much ;-) |I'm thinking of throwing the card away and buying a more expensive one, do |you think it's worth trying any other last minute options? Roger may have a trick or two up his sleeve, but I think you're going to have to buy a card with a PAL tuner, ...or just move to the USA :-) However, it may not be a total write-off. You can receive 'some' FM radio stations on a stock NTSC board I've discovered, even those without radio advertised. Though I don't know if FM radio in Europe follows the same modulation standard. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 22 20:42:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from casper.spirit.net.au (cas240.act.spirit.net.au [203.63.240.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386871512C for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:42:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bryan@casper.spirit.net.au) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by casper.spirit.net.au (8.9.3/8.8.5) id PAA30699 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:40:53 +1100 (EST) From: Bryan Collins Message-Id: <199911230440.PAA30699@casper.spirit.net.au> Subject: Re: Should I throw away this TV card? In-Reply-To: <19991122231426.A4435@ipass.net> from Randall Hopper at "Nov 22, 1999 11:14:26 pm" To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:40:53 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > However, it may not be a total write-off. You can receive 'some' FM radio > stations on a stock NTSC board I've discovered, even those without radio > advertised. Though I don't know if FM radio in Europe follows the same > modulation standard. > I've noticed that too, with my PixelView Tuner card, it has a Philips PAL tuner, and I can receive some FM radio stations in fxtv... and my tuner doesn't have the radio option. (not even an FM antenna connector) Bry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 0: 0:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709BB14A2D; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from cs.strath.ac.uk (scary.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.5]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26173 Tue, 23 Nov 1999 07:59:50 GMT Message-ID: <383A442B.E8CCC284@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 07:37:15 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: Strathclyde University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Help: SoundBlaster PCI 16, 64, 128, 64V, 128V revisions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying to list the full range of SoundBlaster PCI models. >From my research I have found the following Creative Labs models. CT4700 SB PCI 128 - (12 months ago) ES1370. 2 line outs for 4 speakers. Retail Box CT???? SB PCI 64V - unknown chip. 64 Value edition. 1 line out. OEM Market. CT4750 SB PCI 128V - unknown chip. 128 Value edition. 1 line out. OEM market. CT4740 SB PCI 16 - ES1373. 2 line outs for 4 speakers. Retail Box. 12 months ago, Creatives UK web site promoted the SB PCI 128 and the SB Live models. Today, they only promote the SB PCI 16 and SB Live models. Can those of you with SoundBlaster PCI cards help me fill out this table Thanks Roger -- Roger Hardiman Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Research Group, Glasgow, Scotland. http://www.telepresence.strath.ac.uk 0141 548 2897 roger@cs.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 0: 0:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AB115089 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:00:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from cs.strath.ac.uk (scary.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.5]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26190 Tue, 23 Nov 1999 07:59:57 GMT Message-ID: <383A4784.7139E41E@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 07:51:32 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: Strathclyde University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bryan Collins Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should I throw away this TV card? References: <199911230440.PAA30699@casper.spirit.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bryan > > I've noticed that too, with my PixelView Tuner card, it has a Philips PAL tuner, > and I can receive some FM radio stations in fxtv... > and my tuner doesn't have the radio option. (not even an FM antenna connector) Really. Which ones. In the UK , FM radio is 85.7 to 108 Mhz Perhaps I sould enable FM radio mode for all the tuner types in the Bt848/878 driver. Currently only Tuners Types 9, 10 and 11 have FM radio Roger -- Roger Hardiman Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Research Group, Glasgow, Scotland. http://www.telepresence.strath.ac.uk 0141 548 2897 roger@cs.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 8:41:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A1D14EFF for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:41:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA20383 Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:41:06 GMT Message-ID: <383AC3A2.794B@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:41:06 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Trent Nelson Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help: SoundBlaster PCI 16, 64, 128, 64V, 128V revisions References: <383A442B.E8CCC284@cs.strath.ac.uk> <383AA4CD.68AF85CC@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Trent > I've got an Intel SR440BX motherboard that has a 16MB TNT and a > SoundBlaster PCI64 onboard. > > pci0: unknown card (vendor=0x1274, dev=0x1371) at 12.0 irq 9 > > is there any way of getting this soundcard working now? Yep. 3.3-stable and 4.x-current both support this sound chip which is an ES1371 or ES1373 with the 'pcm' driver. > FreeBSD breaker.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #1: Mon Nov 15 > 17:58:45 WST 1999 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/CURRENT-14Nov1999 The code in -current was switched on just 2 days ago, so if you CVSup and make a new kernel, the sound should work. Cheers Roger -- Roger Hardiman | Telepresence Research Group roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | DMEM, University of Strathclyde tel: 0141 548 2897 | Glasgow, Scotland, G1 1XJ, UK fax: 0141 552 0557 | http://www.telepresence.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 10:39:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE97215326 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:39:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id TAA07717 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 19:37:10 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma007715; Tue, 23 Nov 99 19:37:10 +0100 Received: from hal.mpn.cp.philips.com (hal.mpn.cp.philips.com [130.139.64.195]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with SMTP id TAA24341 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 19:37:09 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 67186 invoked by uid 666); 23 Nov 1999 18:37:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 19:37:31 +0100 From: Jos Backus To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: newpcm: playback hanging/no sound on AudioTrix Pro Message-ID: <19991123193731.A66831@hal.mpn.cp.philips.com> Reply-To: Jos Backus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After doing # cat INTRO-AD.WAV > /dev/dsp & I'm seeing 20668 root -6 5 208K 96K pcmwr 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cat This is with yesterday's -current, today's kernel and FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Nov 23 1999 16:50:08 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x530 irq 11 drq 3:0 (1/1 channels duplex) and device pcm0 at isa ? port ? irq 11 drq 3 flags 0x10 which probes as pcm0: at port 0x530-0x537,0x538-0x539 irq 11 drq 3 flags 0xa210 on isa0 The card is configured (according to the DOS setup utility) as Wave: irq 11, play dma 3, rec DMA 0, addr 530 SB: irq 5, dma 1, addr 220 MPU-401: irq 9, addr 330 Apparently, cat is never woken up from sleeping on pcmwr; does anybody have any idea where to start looking? Thanks, -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ "Reliability means never _/ _/ _/ having to say you're sorry." _/ _/_/_/ -- D. J. Bernstein _/ _/ _/ _/ Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 11: 7:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from unity.copyleft.no (unity.copyleft.no [212.71.72.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD50D14F04 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:07:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from johs@unity.copyleft.no) Received: from johs by unity.copyleft.no with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11qLJZ-0007ba-00 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:09:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:09:21 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Gr=F8dem?= To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help: SoundBlaster PCI 16, 64, 128, 64V, 128V revisions Message-ID: <19991123200921.B29031@unity.copyleft.no> References: <383A442B.E8CCC284@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <383A442B.E8CCC284@cs.strath.ac.uk> X-Operating-System: Peq/OS R4.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > CT???? SB PCI 64V - unknown chip. 64 Value edition. 1 line out. OEM > Market. I have a box here with an SB PCI 64V. The label on the ESS-chip on the motherboard reads "ESS1373". FreeBSD (3.3-STABLE) detects it as 1371. Oh, and I can't get it to work. It complains about /dev/dsp not being configured. -- (johs) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 11:19:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from timbuk.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C121153C4 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:19:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from clink.americas.sgi.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id NAA09006; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:18:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from thebarn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clink.americas.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) with ESMTP id NAA48310; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:18:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <383AE89E.4B3AB3CD@thebarn.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:18:55 -0600 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5-ALPHA-1275916020 IP27) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johannes =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gr=F8dem?= Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help: SoundBlaster PCI 16, 64, 128, 64V, 128V revisions References: <383A442B.E8CCC284@cs.strath.ac.uk> <19991123200921.B29031@unity.copyleft.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Johannes Grxdem wrote: > > CT???? SB PCI 64V - unknown chip. 64 Value edition. 1 line out. OEM > > Market. > > I have a box here with an SB PCI 64V. The label on the ESS-chip on the > motherboard reads "ESS1373". FreeBSD (3.3-STABLE) detects it as 1371. > > Oh, and I can't get it to work. It complains about /dev/dsp not being > configured. > Check the /dev/dsp link... make sure it is pointing at the right device, with 3.3 is will probably be /dev/dsp1. > > -- > (johs) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 11:54:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from satsuma.mail.easynet.net (satsuma.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDA914CAF for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:54:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ak@freenet.co.uk) Received: from freenet.co.uk (alister.w.easynet.co.uk [212.212.251.86]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with ESMTP id 822157B3AD; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 19:53:04 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <383AF12A.B7D6A494@freenet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 19:55:22 +0000 From: Alex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Backus Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newpcm: playback hanging/no sound on AudioTrix Pro References: <19991123193731.A66831@hal.mpn.cp.philips.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jos Backus wrote: > > After doing > > # cat INTRO-AD.WAV > /dev/dsp & > > I'm seeing > > 20668 root -6 5 208K 96K pcmwr 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cat > > This is with yesterday's -current, today's kernel and > > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Nov 23 1999 16:50:08 > Installed devices: > pcm0: at io 0x530 irq 11 drq 3:0 (1/1 channels duplex) > > and > > device pcm0 at isa ? port ? irq 11 drq 3 flags 0x10 > > which probes as > > pcm0: at port 0x530-0x537,0x538-0x539 irq 11 drq 3 flags 0xa210 on > isa0 > > The card is configured (according to the DOS setup utility) as > > Wave: irq 11, play dma 3, rec DMA 0, addr 530 > SB: irq 5, dma 1, addr 220 > MPU-401: irq 9, addr 330 > > Apparently, cat is never woken up from sleeping on pcmwr; does anybody have > any idea where to start looking? Try using DMA channels 1 and 0 (instead of 3 and 0). There seems to be a bug somewhere in newpcm that causes the sound card to sleep on pcmwr, unless the DRQs used are 1 and 0 (I tried various other combinations with no luck). The order is important - 0:1 doesn't work either. I haven't had the time to investigate it further. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 12:30:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from hpcs14.dv.fal.de (hpcs14e.dv.fal.de [134.110.18.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE50F14CB4 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:30:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kraft@hpcs14.dv.fal.de) Received: (from kraft@localhost) by hpcs14.dv.fal.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA03818; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:28:50 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Kraft Message-Id: <199911232028.VAA03818@hpcs14.dv.fal.de> Subject: Re: Help: SoundBlaster PCI 16, 64, 128, 64V, 128V revisions To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk (Roger Hardiman) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:28:50 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <383A442B.E8CCC284@cs.strath.ac.uk> from "Roger Hardiman" at Nov 23, 99 07:37:15 am Reply-To: martin.kraft@fal.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Hardiman wrote: > > I'm trying to list the full range of SoundBlaster PCI models. > >From my research I have found the following Creative Labs models. > > CT4700 SB PCI 128 - (12 months ago) ES1370. 2 line outs for 4 speakers. > Retail Box [..] Mine is a Sound Blaster PCI128 and has an ES1371 chip. Bought it about two months ago. dmesg (usung the driver by Russel Cattelan which was committed with 3.3-stable a few days ago): es1: rev 0x06 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0 pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0xb400 es1371: codec vendor CRY revision 19 es1371: codec features Bass & Treble Headphone out 20bit DAC 18bit ADC es1371: stereo enhancement: Crystal Semiconductor 3D Stereo Enhancement I do not know the CT---- code, sorry. Do you want me to open my box? It has (external): Line in *) Mic in Line-Out/Speaker-Out *) MIDI-/Joystick and internal: TAD-In/Out CD-Audio-In *) Aux-In *) *) I am using these. Martin Kraft To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 12:44:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from hpcs14.dv.fal.de (hpcs14e.dv.fal.de [134.110.18.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06BC150B2 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:44:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kraft@hpcs14.dv.fal.de) Received: (from kraft@localhost) by hpcs14.dv.fal.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA03838; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:44:07 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Kraft Message-Id: <199911232044.VAA03838@hpcs14.dv.fal.de> Subject: Re: ES1373/1373 driver now committed to -stable {was: icecast on 3.3-STABLE To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk (Roger Hardiman) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:44:07 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, cattelan@thebarn.com In-Reply-To: <3832736E.DDB6B09A@cs.strath.ac.uk> from "Roger Hardiman" at Nov 17, 99 09:20:46 am Reply-To: martin.kraft@fal.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Hardiman wrote: > > Well Kim, your dream has come true. > I committed Russells patch for ES1371/1373 to -STABLE yesterday. > This means FreeBSD now supports the later revision > Ensoniq and SoundBlaster PCI 16/64/128 cards (in theory) Fine. I'm using it since several weeks. But I think, it is not yet totally finished: On oct. 25, I wrote (to this list and to Russel): * Unfortunatedly I encountered another problem: I wasn't able to change * the LINE input's VOLUME. I modified the line volume using DAP's * X Mixer. FreeBSD's mixer reported the changed values, but input * volume did not change effectively. I cvsup'd 3.3-stable last weekend, including the 1371 stuff. Recompiled my kernel and repeated the test. No improvement. In fact, I was not able to record this cd from our concert by means of the PCI128 and had to use an old SB 16. So this is a strong problem for me, because I bought the PCI128 for its better A/D converter. I also would like to report another observation: Playing music via line out, connected to my active speakers, there are some bad sound effects at very loud parts of the music. I can not give the exact technical expression for the effect, but it seems to be a kind of dynamic limit of the system. (Even with mixer vol 40 and low speaker vol.) I can hear the same music with the same speakers and the previously mentioned SB 16 card without these problems. Is anybody out there, reading this list, who observed the same problem? Martin Kraft To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 13: 3: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from timbuk.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0342114A21 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:03:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from clink.americas.sgi.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id PAA11718; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:02:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from thebarn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clink.americas.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) with ESMTP id PAA39148; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:02:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <383B00D5.A0449698@thebarn.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:02:13 -0600 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5-ALPHA-1275916020 IP27) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: martin.kraft@fal.de Cc: Roger Hardiman , freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ES1373/1373 driver now committed to -stable {was: icecast on 3.3-STABLE References: <199911232044.VAA03838@hpcs14.dv.fal.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Martin Kraft wrote: > Roger Hardiman wrote: > > > > Well Kim, your dream has come true. > > I committed Russells patch for ES1371/1373 to -STABLE yesterday. > > This means FreeBSD now supports the later revision > > Ensoniq and SoundBlaster PCI 16/64/128 cards (in theory) > > Fine. I'm using it since several weeks. > > But I think, it is not yet totally finished: > > On oct. 25, I wrote (to this list and to Russel): > > * Unfortunatedly I encountered another problem: I wasn't able to change > * the LINE input's VOLUME. I modified the line volume using DAP's > * X Mixer. FreeBSD's mixer reported the changed values, but input > * volume did not change effectively. Sorry about this... it has been on my list of things to look at. I haven't had a chance to drop the card into a 3.3 machine lately. guess I should scavenge some parts and put together another machine. > > > I cvsup'd 3.3-stable last weekend, including the 1371 stuff. Recompiled > my kernel and repeated the test. No improvement. > > In fact, I was not able to record this cd from our concert by means of > the PCI128 and had to use an old SB 16. So this is a strong problem for > me, because I bought the PCI128 for its better A/D converter. What motherboard/chip set are you using? I found some chatter on the ALS mailing list about none intel chip set motherboards not working with the new PCI128s. > > > I also would like to report another observation: Playing music via > line out, connected to my active speakers, there are some bad sound > effects at very loud parts of the music. I can not give the exact > technical expression for the effect, but it seems to be a kind of > dynamic limit of the system. (Even with mixer vol 40 and low speaker vol.) Does it sort of sound like cracking in the high ranges? I have heard some clipping in the high end. Unfortunately from reviews I have found the 1371 doesn't perform as well as the 1370. Note: I tried the OSS driver just as a test to see if the sound was any different... I couldn't find any differences. > > > I can hear the same music with the same speakers and the previously > mentioned SB 16 card without these problems. > > Is anybody out there, reading this list, who observed the same problem? > > Martin Kraft To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 13:42: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from hpcs14.dv.fal.de (hpcs14e.dv.fal.de [134.110.18.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6E01541A for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:41:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kraft@hpcs14.dv.fal.de) Received: (from kraft@localhost) by hpcs14.dv.fal.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA04006; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:40:05 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Kraft Message-Id: <199911232140.WAA04006@hpcs14.dv.fal.de> Subject: Re: ES1373/1373 driver now committed to -stable {was: icecast on To: cattelan@thebarn.com (Russell Cattelan) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:40:04 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <383B00D5.A0449698@thebarn.com> from "Russell Cattelan" at Nov 23, 99 03:02:13 pm Reply-To: martin.kraft@fal.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Russell Cattelan wrote: > > Martin Kraft wrote: > > > * Unfortunatedly I encountered another problem: I wasn't able to change > > * the LINE input's VOLUME. I modified the line volume using DAP's > > * X Mixer. FreeBSD's mixer reported the changed values, but input > > * volume did not change effectively. > > What motherboard/chip set are you using? > I found some chatter on the ALS mailing list about none intel chip set > motherboards not working with the new PCI128s. Asus P2L97-S AGP (Adaptec aic7880 Ultra SCSI adapter onboard) Intel 440LX chipset. > Does it sort of sound like cracking in the high ranges? > I have heard some clipping in the high end. Kind of clipping, yes. > Unfortunately from reviews I have found the 1371 doesn't perform > as well as the 1370. > > Note: I tried the OSS driver just as a test to see if the sound was > any different... I couldn't find any differences. Oh, I didn't know that. Bought it, because some people wrote, that it has a good A/D (for the price, of course). If it is not a driver problem, I might consider to buy another brand in the middle future. As I wrote, the sound is worse than with an old SB 16 ISA. Thanks! Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 14:15:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C2414C1F for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:15:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id XAA24345 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:15:01 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma024343; Tue, 23 Nov 99 23:15:01 +0100 Received: from hal.mpn.cp.philips.com (hal.mpn.cp.philips.com [130.139.64.195]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with SMTP id XAA28994 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:15:01 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 43335 invoked by uid 666); 23 Nov 1999 22:15:22 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:15:22 +0100 From: Jos Backus To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newpcm: playback hanging/no sound on AudioTrix Pro Message-ID: <19991123231522.A42641@hal.mpn.cp.philips.com> Reply-To: Jos Backus References: <19991123193731.A66831@hal.mpn.cp.philips.com> <383AF12A.B7D6A494@freenet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <383AF12A.B7D6A494@freenet.co.uk>; from ak@freenet.co.uk on Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 07:55:22PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 07:55:22PM +0000, Alex wrote: > Try using DMA channels 1 and 0 (instead of 3 and 0). There seems to be > a bug somewhere in newpcm that causes the sound card to sleep on pcmwr, > unless the DRQs used are 1 and 0 (I tried various other combinations > with no luck). The order is important - 0:1 doesn't work either. I > haven't had the time to investigate it further. Doesn't work here. I changed the values using setuppro.exe (I swapped the SB and Wave DMA channels), verified that it still works under DOS and then changed the kernel config. The result: jos:/home/jos# top -b -n 100 | grep cat 434 root -6 0 208K 96K pcmwr 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Nov 23 1999 16:50:08 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x530 irq 11 drq 1:0 (1/1 channels duplex) Thanks, -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ "Reliability means never _/ _/ _/ having to say you're sorry." _/ _/_/_/ -- D. J. Bernstein _/ _/ _/ _/ Jos.Backus@nl.origin-it.com _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 15:19: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from timbuk.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFE715412 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:18:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from clink.americas.sgi.com (clink.cray.com [128.162.84.70]) by timbuk.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id RAA14098; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:18:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from thebarn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clink.americas.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/CRI-news-1.3) with ESMTP id RAA86579; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:18:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <383B20D4.48231206@thebarn.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:18:44 -0600 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5-ALPHA-1275916020 IP27) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: martin.kraft@fal.de Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ES1373/1373 driver now committed to -stable {was: icecast on References: <199911232140.WAA04006@hpcs14.dv.fal.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Martin Kraft wrote: > Russell Cattelan wrote: > > > > Martin Kraft wrote: > > > > > * Unfortunatedly I encountered another problem: I wasn't able to change > > > * the LINE input's VOLUME. I modified the line volume using DAP's > > > * X Mixer. FreeBSD's mixer reported the changed values, but input > > > * volume did not change effectively. > > > > What motherboard/chip set are you using? > > I found some chatter on the ALS mailing list about none intel chip set > > motherboards not working with the new PCI128s. > > Asus P2L97-S AGP (Adaptec aic7880 Ultra SCSI adapter onboard) Intel 440LX > chipset. Hmm the Asus boards are the ones having problems... but without the Intel chip set. I'll keep a look out to see if somebody finds a fix for the problem. > > > > Does it sort of sound like cracking in the high ranges? > > I have heard some clipping in the high end. > > Kind of clipping, yes. > > > Unfortunately from reviews I have found the 1371 doesn't perform > > as well as the 1370. > > > > Note: I tried the OSS driver just as a test to see if the sound was > > any different... I couldn't find any differences. > > Oh, I didn't know that. Bought it, because some people wrote, that it > has a good A/D (for the price, of course). If it is not a driver problem, > I might consider to buy another brand in the middle future. As I wrote, > the sound is worse than with an old SB 16 ISA. If you want to look at some good write-ups http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/reports/ The Creative Labs stuff doesn't score all the well... not bad but the Turtle Beach stuff seems to be better equip. > > > Thanks! > > Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 15:31:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4DC15429 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:31:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id AAA02379 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 00:31:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA52962 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:49:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Help: SoundBlaster PCI 16, 64, 128, 64V, 128V revisions Date: 23 Nov 1999 22:49:20 +0100 Message-ID: <81f250$1jmn$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <383A442B.E8CCC284@cs.strath.ac.uk> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Hardiman wrote: > CT???? SB PCI 64V - unknown chip. 64 Value edition. 1 line out. OEM > Market. pcm0: irq 15 at device 9.0 on pci0 -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 23 20: 6:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rage.hub.org (nat202.25.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.202.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97677154B3 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:06:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@hub.org) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by rage.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03825 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 00:07:47 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from jeff@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rage.hub.org: jeff owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 00:07:47 -0400 (AST) From: Jeff MacDonald Reply-To: Jeff MacDonald To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 24 2:43:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD69814C4C for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:43:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08003 Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:43:14 GMT Message-ID: <383BC142.15FB@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:43:14 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: martin.kraft@fal.de Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, cattelan@thebarn.com Subject: Re: ES1373/1373 driver now committed to -stable {was: icecast on 3.3-STABLE References: <199911232044.VAA03838@hpcs14.dv.fal.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Martin > * Unfortunatedly I encountered another problem: I wasn't able to > * change the LINE input's VOLUME. I modified the line volume using > DAP's X Mixer > I also would like to report another observation: Playing music via > line out, connected to my active speakers, there are some bad sound > effects at very loud parts of the music. I believe there are a few bugs in the driver. I've found one when playing 2 wave files, one immediatly after the other. However, now Russells driver is in -current and in -stable we have a base to start debugging from. Roger -- Roger Hardiman | Telepresence Research Group roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | DMEM, University of Strathclyde tel: 0141 548 2897 | Glasgow, Scotland, G1 1XJ, UK fax: 0141 552 0557 | http://www.telepresence.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 24 11:39:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BB215388 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:39:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15506 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:06:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:06:15 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: SNDCTL_DSP_GETODELAY Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A few linux apps are using SNDCTL_DSP_GETODELAY. I investigated whether is was just an ommision in the Linuxlator however it seems we don't support it. OSS doesn't have it in thier documented API but yet people running OSS on linux don't have any problems. It's basically a function that returns the 'bytes' field of struct count_info minus what seems to be the total amount of data processed since the last dma 'reset'. ioctl_ret = total_processed - count_info->bytes from SNDCTL_DSP_GETOPTR -----------^^^^^^^^ It also seems to be a somewhat lame ioctl since that information should be easy to track from userland. *grumble* I'm nowhere close to being a sound guru, this is what I understand from reading through linux sources. thanks, -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 24 20:11:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.199.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0347814BB7; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:11:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-r-0.1-19990829) with ESMTP id NAA01867; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:11:32 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199911250411.NAA01867@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: vallo@matti.ee Cc: asmodai@bart.nl, alleve@idirect.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Seigo Tanimura Subject: Re: Anyone setup a CMI8338 under FreeBSD ? From: Seigo Tanimura In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:09:49 +0200" References: <19991124160949.A909@myhakas.matti.ee> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:11:32 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [cc'ed to -multimedia to call for driver maintainers] On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:09:49 +0200, Vallo Kallaste said: >> -On [19991123 09:25], Allix Primus (alleve@idirect.com) wrote: >> >Just wondering If anyone has setup a CMI8338 under FreeBSD >> >> And what may that be? vallo> It's a sound chip used on some cheap motherboards. Recently I've heard vallo> in the -multimedia list that it's possible to get this working under vallo> FreeBSD. What I found in -multimedia is CMI8330, which is an ISA PnP chip. If you are using 3.2R, you may want to try patches at: http://www.imou.to/~AoiMoe/BSD-at-Random/cmi/CMI8x38-19990923-1.diff http://www.imou.to/~AoiMoe/BSD-at-Random/cmi/CMI8x38-19990923-1-to-19990924-1.diff With these patches, a CMI8338 would at least sound. Say, anyone wanna port these patches to newpcm? Seigo Tanimura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 24 21:40: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.199.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB52C14C3C for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:39:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-r-0.1-19990829) with ESMTP id OAA06291; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:37:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199911250537.OAA06291@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: bright@wintelcom.net Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: Seigo Tanimura Subject: Re: SNDCTL_DSP_GETODELAY From: Seigo Tanimura In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:06:15 -0800 (PST)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:37:46 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:06:15 -0800 (PST), Alfred Perlstein said: bright> It's basically a function that returns the 'bytes' field of bright> struct count_info minus what seems to be the total amount bright> of data processed since the last dma 'reset'. What I read in the sources of ALSA is a bit different. GETODELAY simply returns the number of bytes played so far since reset. Has anyone tried using this ioctl in Linux? Or are there any ports that uses GETODELAY? Seigo Tanimura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 24 21:58:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from home.bsdclub.org (home.bsdclub.org [202.227.26.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8DA14C36 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:58:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from futatuki@bsdclub.org) Received: (from futatuki@localhost) by home.bsdclub.org (8.9.3/3.7W) id OAA19842; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:57:53 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:57:53 +0900 (JST) From: Yasuhito FUTATSUKI Message-Id: <199911250557.OAA19842@home.bsdclub.org> To: tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp Cc: bright@wintelcom.net, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SNDCTL_DSP_GETODELAY In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:37:46 JST". <199911250537.OAA06291@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <199911250537.OAA06291@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp writes: > What I read in the sources of ALSA is a bit different. GETODELAY > simply returns the number of bytes played so far since reset. > > Has anyone tried using this ioctl in Linux? Or are there any ports > that uses GETODELAY? Xcdrdao, a graphical front end of cdrdao, uses it if it is available. -- Yasuhito FUTATSUKI To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 25 1:26: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from hpcs19.dv.fal.de (hpcs19e.dv.fal.de [134.110.18.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBB3E14C4A for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 01:26:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kraft@fal.de) Received: by hpcs19.dv.fal.de (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA12379; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:25:46 +0100 From: Martin Kraft Subject: Re: ES1373/1373 driver now committed to -stable {was: icecast on To: cattelan@thebarn.com (Russell Cattelan) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:25:46 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <383B20D4.48231206@thebarn.com> from "Russell Cattelan" at Nov 23, 99 05:18:44 pm Reply-To: martin.kraft@fal.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 862 Message-Id: <19991125092603.DBB3E14C4A@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Russell Cattelan wrote: > > > Oh, I didn't know that. Bought it, because some people wrote, that it > > has a good A/D (for the price, of course). If it is not a driver problem, > > I might consider to buy another brand in the middle future. As I wrote, > > the sound is worse than with an old SB 16 ISA. > > If you want to look at some good write-ups > http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/reports/ > > The Creative Labs stuff doesn't score all the well... not bad > but the Turtle Beach stuff seems to be better equip. What I am really looking for is a) simple sound card, medium sound quality, PCI, < 50 $, supported by FreeBSD plus b) any kind of interface to read in audio data digitally via coax SPDIF from my DAT with sampling rate 44.1 kHz and WITHOUT any D/A/D processing and mixing; supported by FreeBSD Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 25 3: 3:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from tusk.mountain-inter.net (tusk.mountain-inter.net [204.244.200.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279D614D85 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:03:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sreid@sea-to-sky.net) Received: from grok.localnet (unknown@analog24.sq.mntn.net [204.244.200.33]) by tusk.mountain-inter.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA15755 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:03:16 -0800 Received: by grok.localnet (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A7A5B212E07; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:03:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:03:28 -0800 From: Steve Reid To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with Matrox G200 Message-ID: <19991125030328.A476@grok.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For anyone who's interested... I have Q3 running with hardware acceleration on my Matrox G200 video card, using the GLX code currently in CVS. I haven't tried the files at http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/distfiles/glx/ but the code currently in CVS is newer and should be quite a bit faster for the G200. To get it working first compile and install the GLX module. See http://glx.on.openprojects.net/faq.html for details. It will definately require gmake to build, and possibly GCC 2.95. I think you'll also need to upgrade your X server to 3.3.5 if you haven't done so already. With all that taken care of GLX should compile and run without modifications. That should be enough to get xlockmore, glclock, etc. running with hardware acceleration. For best performance compile a kernel with "options MAXMEM=..." to reserve some memory, then set the mga_dma* options in glx.conf. Be careful; if MAXMEM and mga_dmaadr don't jive you'll crash and burn. Q3 is a Linux binary so it requires Linux libraries. I had Q3 running with old GLX and linux libs I pulled from a .deb package, but the newer GLX code would crash when I ran Q3. The key was to update the Linux libs. Linux user Ralph Giles sent me the libs from his system. You can find them at http://sea-to-sky.net/~sreid/linux-libgl.tar.gz Put them into /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib. Also, quake3 requires libGL.so in the current (or q3?) directory, so make a symlink. I had older GLX working with older Linux libs extracted from some .deb packages, but could not get the newer GLX to run Q3. With the newer libs it works and performance is much better than with the old GLX version. Timedemo results: DEMO001: 1346 frames, 66.7 seconds: 20.2 fps DEMO002: 1399 frames, 73.3 seconds: 19.1 fps System: 450 MHz Celeron 300A, Abit BH6, 64MB PC100 RAM, Matrox G200 8MB SDRAM FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE, XF86 3.3.3.1 (3.3.5 server), 1280x960x16bpp@85Hz GLX using DMA mode 3, dmasize 8, systemtexture. Q3 Settings: Graphics options: custom / default / on / 640x480 / default / on / vertex / high / medium-low / default / bilinear Game options: Marks on walls, Ejecting brass, Itentify target, High quality sky, Sync every frame. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 25 13:35:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from lips.lcse.umn.edu (lips.lcse.umn.edu [128.101.182.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ED314E04 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:35:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from thebarn.com (lupo [160.94.170.114]) by lips.lcse.umn.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA62366; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:35:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <383DABB1.AD0DD5FF@thebarn.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:35:45 -0600 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: martin.kraft@fal.de Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ES1373/1373 driver now committed to -stable {was: icecast on References: <199911250925.DAA60533@lips.lcse.umn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Martin Kraft wrote: > Russell Cattelan wrote: > > > > > Oh, I didn't know that. Bought it, because some people wrote, that it > > > has a good A/D (for the price, of course). If it is not a driver problem, > > > I might consider to buy another brand in the middle future. As I wrote, > > > the sound is worse than with an old SB 16 ISA. > > > > If you want to look at some good write-ups > > http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/reports/ > > > > The Creative Labs stuff doesn't score all the well... not bad > > but the Turtle Beach stuff seems to be better equip. > > What I am really looking for is > > a) simple sound card, medium sound quality, PCI, < 50 $, supported by > FreeBSD Hmm... well the AudioPCI does fit that bill,. > > > plus > > b) any kind of interface to read in audio data digitally via coax > SPDIF from my DAT with sampling rate 44.1 kHz and WITHOUT > any D/A/D processing and mixing; supported by FreeBSD > Ok well that one may be a bit harder. I've been looking for a good digital interface card. The SB Live might be and option, but if you look at the eval on that card at the above mentioned site, it's worse than the AudioPCI. The card I've been waiting for is the midiman 2448. The original release date was suppose to be October... suppose to be :-( http://www.midiman.com/Html/products/dio2448.html I'm trying to get midiman to release some docs, hopefully a driver won't be to difficult to write. I've seen some reference to the newer PCI128's having spdif interface's? Does the card you bought have that? On a side note I finally sat down and hooked up some input lines to the 1371. Everything seem to work fine in -CURRENT, setting of the rec/mic/line levels work just fine. Now all I have to do is get a 3.3 box up and running, and track down the mixer bug... hopefully by the end of the weekend. -- Russell Cattelan cattelan@thebarn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 25 14:33:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK (ns4.help-desk.co.uk [212.240.170.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1DD14D21 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:33:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK) Received: (from root@localhost) by NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA00653; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:38:04 GMT (envelope-from root) From: Patrick Mackeown Message-Id: <199911252238.WAA00653@NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK> Subject: Re: Should I throw away this TV card? In-Reply-To: <199911252228.WAA00596@NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK> from Patrick Mackeown at "Nov 25, 1999 10:28:55 pm" To: "Patrick Mackeown"@NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK, root@NS4.HELP-DESK.CO.UK Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:38:04 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tom@toetag.com, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Patrick > > > > > > > My list ends at 1.72 31 Aug 1999 > > > > > > > > No there is no such file anywhere called CHANGELOG.TXT > > > > > > > > > Ok. A very very old driver then. > > > Lets see. How do I fix it in 1.72..... > > > > > > First of all, look for this piece of code > > > if (card_found) { > > > bktr->card = cards[ card = bt848_card_signature[i].card]; > > > bktr->card.tuner = &tuners[ bt848_card_signature[i].tuner]; > > > eeprom_i2c_address = locate_eeprom_address( bktr ); > > > if (eeprom_i2c_address != -1) { > > > bktr->card.eepromAddr = eeprom_i2c_address; > > > bktr->card.eepromSize = (u_char)(256 / EEPROMBLOCKSIZE); > > > } else { > > > bktr->card.eepromAddr = 0; > > > bktr->card.eepromSize = 0; > > > } > > > goto checkDBX; > > > } > > > > > > > > > Then change it to > > > if (card_found) { > > > bktr->card = cards[ card = bt848_card_signature[i].card]; > > > bktr->card.tuner = &tuners[ bt848_card_signature[i].tuner]; > > > eeprom_i2c_address = locate_eeprom_address( bktr ); > > > if (eeprom_i2c_address != -1) { > > > bktr->card.eepromAddr = eeprom_i2c_address; > > > bktr->card.eepromSize = (u_char)(256 / EEPROMBLOCKSIZE); > > > } else { > > > bktr->card.eepromAddr = 0; > > > bktr->card.eepromSize = 0; > > > } > > > /* The follow line fixes the ISM Turbo Tuner bug */ > > > tuner_i2c_address = locate_tuner_address( bktr ); > > > goto checkDBX; > > > } > > > > > > > > > I only added one line of code, just before the goto checkDBX. > > > > > > Can you make this change in /sys/pci/brooktree848.c for me please > > > and make a new kernel. > > > Reboot, use systcl hw.bt848.tuner=10 > > > And see what happens. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Roger > > > > > > > Well Roger, > > > > The operational details are similar to before with the code change. > > fxtv -antennaFreqSet weurope -inputFormat pal > > produces a blank screen. When I change my setting to PAL/M format I get > > significant interference. But no pictures. > > > > pat > > > Scratch that last message!!! > You've done it, pictures, sound, the works! You've really fixed it. > > Patrick > > (one extremely satisfied customer :-) > Roger, I'm sending this to Tom Jansen too, I hope you don't mind because he gave me no end of help as well, and I think he'll be pleased to see I've got it working at last! Patrick Thanks a million, both of you. And remember pgm@ns4.help-desk.co.uk when you need a favour doing :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 25 15:46:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from hpcs14.dv.fal.de (hpcs14e.dv.fal.de [134.110.18.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8458014D37 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:46:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kraft@hpcs14.dv.fal.de) Received: (from kraft@localhost) by hpcs14.dv.fal.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA09034; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:46:33 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Kraft Message-Id: <199911252346.AAA09034@hpcs14.dv.fal.de> Subject: SPDIF and FreeBSD To: cattelan@thebarn.com (Russell Cattelan) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:46:32 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <383DABB1.AD0DD5FF@thebarn.com> from "Russell Cattelan" at Nov 25, 99 03:35:45 pm Reply-To: martin.kraft@fal.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Russell Cattelan wrote: > > The card I've been waiting for is the midiman 2448. The original release > date was suppose to be October... suppose to be :-( > http://www.midiman.com/Html/products/dio2448.html Hmm. Looks interesting. But they don't say, wether SPDIF input data is available for the computer WITHOUT prior D/A/D processing. If it is, this card might be exactly, what I am looking for. > I've seen some reference to the newer PCI128's having spdif interface's? > Does the card you bought have that? It doesn't. And again: I have read about many cards wich allow spdif input but change the signal to an analog one, feeded into some mixer. Mainly the cheaper spdif cards. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 5:53:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pork.abattoir.com (adsl-216-102-198-168.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.198.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7996715018 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 05:53:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from banshee@pork.abattoir.com) Received: (from banshee@localhost) by pork.abattoir.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA23927 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 05:53:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from banshee) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 05:53:17 -0800 (PST) From: John M Vinopal Message-Id: <199911261353.FAA23927@pork.abattoir.com> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: cuseeme proxy in libalias (3.3) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running a 3.3 machine using natd to connect through a single ip addr. I was poking though libalias source to try to determine how miserable I'd be trying to make Age of Empires proxy correctly, when I noticed the cuseeme module for libalias. So I fired it up on my mac to no effect. Anyone out there using natd and proxying cuseeme over it successfully? -j To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 17: 5:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4D31523E for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:05:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-ra-nc1-117.netcologne.de [195.14.244.117]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03578; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 02:05:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA02450; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 01:49:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 01:49:08 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911270049.BAA02450@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: sreid@sea-to-sky.net Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19991125030328.A476@grok.localnet> (message from Steve Reid on Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:03:28 -0800) Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with Matrox G200 Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <19991125030328.A476@grok.localnet> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! > I have Q3 running with hardware acceleration on my Matrox G200 video > card, using the GLX code currently in CVS. I haven't tried the files at > http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/distfiles/glx/ but the code currently in CVS > is newer and should be quite a bit faster for the G200. Last time I checked, the code started to improve for G200/400 but got slower for RIVA (some optimizations to Mesa 3.0 got lost in the upgrade to Mesa 3.1). That was one reason why I did not upgrade to latest glx sources, as I have just RIVA based cards to test. > With all that taken care of GLX should compile and run without > modifications OK, I will have a look at the latest version. Sounds like the CVS version improved. Possibly I have to separate things for Matrox and nvidia users. > For best performance compile a kernel with "options MAXMEM=..." to > reserve some memory, then set the mga_dma* options in glx.conf. Be > careful; if MAXMEM and mga_dmaadr don't jive you'll crash and burn Ah, yes I remember. The Linux folks do use some setting with their LILO bootmanager to reserve memory for the Matrox driver. From the description in LINT I was not sure that MAXMEM overrides the values from the memory probe routines, in case they notice memory above 64 MB. Did you test it? > Q3 is a Linux binary so it requires Linux libraries. I had Q3 running > with old GLX and linux libs I pulled from a .deb package, but the newer > GLX code would crash when I ran Q3. In your running q3, is the glx module used a Linux or a native FreeBSD binary? Same question for the X Server - Linux or native? > The key was to update the Linux libs. Linux user Ralph Giles sent me > the libs from his system. Are these any different from the libraries which are installed by ports/emulators/linux_base? > Q3 Settings: > Graphics options: custom / default / on / 640x480 / default / on / > vertex / high / medium-low / default / bilinear > Game options: Marks on walls, Ejecting brass, Itentify target, High > quality sky, Sync every frame. I downloaded the 50megs of q3td, hope to post my results soon! Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 18:26:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD2414EC2 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-as58-rs1-34.netcologne.de [195.14.226.34]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA04865; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:26:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA00587; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:25:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:25:30 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911270225.DAA00587@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: sreid@sea-to-sky.net Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19991125030328.A476@grok.localnet> (message from Steve Reid on Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:03:28 -0800) Subject: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <19991125030328.A476@grok.localnet> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks Steve, that was most helpful - after some tries I just got to q3demotest to run on my K6-300/RIVA TNT machine as well!!! Very impressive. The first game comparable in feeling and technical quality to the Windows ones I ever saw under X11 and FreeBSD. Sound works perfect as well (original Ensoniq Audio PCI). Hello desktop, here we come! :) Now to some details: > The key was to update the Linux libs. Linux user Ralph Giles sent > me the libs from his system. You can find them > at http://sea-to-sky.net/~sreid/linux-libgl.tar.gz > Put them into /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib. > Also, quake3 requires libGL.so in the > current (or q3?) directory, so make a symlink. That indeed were that important step. It did not work for me, until I put the libGLU.so and libglut.so into /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib. The q3dt README gives a command line option to use a differen libGL.so, but I nonetheless took your advice and just copied a version into the q3dt directory. > I had older GLX working with older Linux libs extracted from some .deb > packages, but could not get the newer GLX to run Q3. With the newer libs > it works and performance is much better than with the old GLX version. > > Timedemo results: > DEMO001: 1346 frames, 66.7 seconds: 20.2 fps > DEMO002: 1399 frames, 73.3 seconds: 19.1 fps I missed these numbers - where do they show up, or what must I set up to get them? > Graphics options: custom / default / on / 640x480 / default / on / > vertex / high / medium-low / default / bilinear > Game options: Marks on walls, Ejecting brass, Itentify target, High > quality sky, Sync every frame. Have tried only a couple of options. Last question, is this beast suited for a q3 battle over the Internet with some FreeBSDer here? :-) Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 18:52:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from norn.ca.eu.org (cr965240-b.abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.19.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A039E14BE4 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:52:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpiazza@norn.ca.eu.org) Received: by norn.ca.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8FAD6F3; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:52:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:52:36 -0800 From: Chris Piazza To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: sreid@sea-to-sky.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Message-ID: <19991126185236.A342@norn.ca.eu.org> References: <19991125030328.A476@grok.localnet> <199911270225.DAA00587@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911270225.DAA00587@oranje.my.domain>; from van.woerkom@netcologne.de on Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 03:25:30AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 03:25:30AM +0100, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > Thanks Steve, that was most helpful - after some tries I just > got to q3demotest to run on my K6-300/RIVA TNT machine as well!!! > > Very impressive. The first game comparable in feeling and technical > quality to the Windows ones I ever saw under X11 and FreeBSD. > > Sound works perfect as well (original Ensoniq Audio PCI). > > Hello desktop, here we come! :) I also got it to run with a machine much like yours (but 350mhz). I must say, performance was pretty dismal if I was outside of hallways. Is it really running great for you? If so I have to wonder why. -Chris -- cpiazza@jaxon.net cpiazza@FreeBSD.org Abbotsford, BC, Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 19: 0:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from tusk.mountain-inter.net (tusk.mountain-inter.net [204.244.200.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9F914F5E for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:00:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sreid@sea-to-sky.net) Received: from grok.localnet (unknown@analog13.sq.mntn.net [204.244.200.22]) by tusk.mountain-inter.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16403; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:00:43 -0800 Received: by grok.localnet (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 61471212E07; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:01:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:01:38 -0800 From: Steve Reid To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with Matrox G200 Message-ID: <19991126190138.A828@grok.localnet> References: <19991125030328.A476@grok.localnet> <199911270049.BAA02450@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199911270049.BAA02450@oranje.my.domain>; from Marc van Woerkom on Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 01:49:08AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 01:49:08AM +0100, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > Last time I checked, the code started to improve for G200/400 but > got slower for RIVA (some optimizations to Mesa 3.0 got lost in the > upgrade to Mesa 3.1). That was one reason why I did not upgrade > to latest glx sources, as I have just RIVA based cards to test. I don't have any RIVA based cards to test, only an MGA G200. But I've been watching the glx-dev list and I don't think there's been much development on the RIVA front. Nearly all of the development seems to be on the Matrox cards because their specs are open. > > With all that taken care of GLX should compile and run without > > modifications > > OK, I will have a look at the latest version. Sounds like the > CVS version improved. Possibly I have to separate things for Matrox > and nvidia users. Again, I haven't tried it with a Riva, so I don't know how well or even if it will compile for that code. If my experience with the MGA code is any indication, any problems should be easily solvable by #ifdef'ing out the Linux-specific parts. > From the description in LINT I was not sure that MAXMEM overrides > the values from the memory probe routines, in case they notice > memory above 64 MB. Did you test it? I've only tested it on my 64MB machine, "MAXMEM=(56*1024)". From dmesg: real memory = 58720256 (57344K bytes) avail memory = 54362112 (53088K bytes) I don't see anything in LINT suggesting any probe overriding MAXMEM, just that you may need to use MAXMEM to override a faulty probe. > In your running q3, is the glx module used a Linux or a native FreeBSD > binary? Same question for the X Server - Linux or native? The GLX module was compiled under FreeBSD using the egcs port (gcc295). The X server is a FreeBSD binary, from ftp.freebsd.org. FreeBSD binaries use the FreeBSD-compiled libGL.so, and Linux binaries use the Linux-compiled libGL.so, exactly as you would expect. They shouldn't (and apparently don't) care what type of binary the server is because of the normal X client/server separation. I'm not sure how that equation will change when direct rendering becomes available under FreeBSD. > > The key was to update the Linux libs. Linux user Ralph Giles sent me > > the libs from his system. > > Are these any different from the libraries which are installed by > ports/emulators/linux_base? I haven't updated my linux_base since I installed FBSD 3.2-R, but I'm quite certain linux_base doesn't include the extras required for 3D. Specificly, all of the 3D stuff requires libGL at a minimum, and some things require libGLU and libglut. I haven't checked but I don't think those are included in linux_base. If they are, they'd do software rendering instead of talking GLX, else they wouldn't work for people who have no GLX module. Some things (both Linux and FreeBSD) expect libMesa(GL|GLU|glut), but I've had no problem just using symlinks to lib(GL|GLU|glut). It seems that the libGL does have to match the glx.so version in some way. I think they just need to both be built with an equivalent version of Mesa so that they both use all of the same data structures. I could not successfully run Q3 using old Mesa-3.0-compiled Linux libs with a Mesa_3_2_dev-compiled FreeBSD glx.so, but it worked without a hitch when Ralph Giles sent me his Mesa_3_2_dev-compiled(I think?) Linux libs. Mesa 3.2-dev is the stabilizing-for-release version of Mesa 3.1, in case you're wondering. The unstable development version is now 3.3. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 19:29:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C898F14C44 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:29:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-as58-rs1-34.netcologne.de [195.14.226.34]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA05666; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:29:17 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA04425; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:28:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:28:22 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911270328.EAA04425@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: cpiazza@jaxon.net Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, sreid@sea-to-sky.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19991126185236.A342@norn.ca.eu.org> (message from Chris Piazza on Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:52:36 -0800) Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <19991125030328.A476@grok.localnet> <199911270225.DAA00587@oranje.my.domain> <19991126185236.A342@norn.ca.eu.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I also got it to run with a machine much like yours (but 350mhz). > I must say, performance was pretty dismal if I was outside of hallways. > Is it really running great for you? If so I have to wonder why. Just because I am less demanding than you. :-) It looks nice, it is the first state of the art game for X11 I saw so far. It is slow, but that is not the game's fault. Linux emulation and sound work, and I don't give much on the present fps rates, as I am sure that these will improve significantly next year, when better OpenGL drivers are available. The nvidia driver mentioned on Slashdot yesterday might be a rumor, but I think DRI is something we are likely to achieve ourselves. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 19:44:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEC514E46 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:44:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-as58-rs1-34.netcologne.de [195.14.226.34]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA05857; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:44:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA04494; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:43:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:43:25 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911270343.EAA04494@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: sreid@sea-to-sky.net Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19991126190138.A828@grok.localnet> (message from Steve Reid on Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:01:38 -0800) Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with Matrox G200 Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <19991125030328.A476@grok.localnet> <199911270049.BAA02450@oranje.my.domain> <19991126190138.A828@grok.localnet> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > been watching the glx-dev list and I don't think there's been much > development on the RIVA front. Nearly all of the development seems to be > on the Matrox cards because their specs are open. nvidia has a developer kit online, and in fact they just updated it. It might be possible that they put in more information but I doubt it. I will look at it next week. > If my experience with the MGA code is any indication, any problems > should be easily solvable by #ifdef'ing out the Linux-specific parts. That is the benefit of the X Server stuff been maintained nice for FreeBSD as well. Let's hope we will get similiar FreeBSD support for DRI, which depends on the Linux folks not doing too crazy stuff with their first implementations. The 3dfx one seems out, again something to check.. :) > The GLX module was compiled under FreeBSD using the egcs port > (gcc295). The X server is a FreeBSD binary, from ftp.freebsd.org. Here glx and X have been built from source with the compiler from -current (2.91.66). In fact everyone using a -current from after the changes to signal handling (see src/UPDATING) needs to recompile X, if I remember right. > I'm not sure how that equation will change when direct rendering becomes > available under FreeBSD. Might depend on the shared memory layout being equal between FreeBSD and Linux. Guess we will have to do what they do, to keep emulation fast. > I haven't updated my linux_base since I installed FBSD 3.2-R, but I'm > quite certain linux_base doesn't include the extras required for 3D. libglut was missing, the others were in a different version present on my system. However these could be remains from older tries to get some q3test running. > Mesa 3.2-dev is the stabilizing-for-release version of Mesa 3.1, in case > you're wondering. The unstable development version is now 3.3. I am subscribed to mesa-dev list, but had absolutly no time for reading during the last two months. Next week I will have time again to evaluate things. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 20: 2:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A77D153A0 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 20:02:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15579; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 20:02:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Cc: sreid@sea-to-sky.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 27 Nov 1999 03:25:30 +0100." <199911270225.DAA00587@oranje.my.domain> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 20:02:20 -0800 Message-ID: <15575.943675340@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wish somebody would make a port of this so that others could follow more easily in your footsteps. Hint hint. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 20: 8:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from sstar.com (sstar.com [209.102.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5C914D49 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 20:08:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from MAROON ([134.132.228.8]) by sstar.com with ESMTP (IPAD 2.52) id 2537000; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:08:31 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991126220749.01662ca8@mail.sstar.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:08:20 -0600 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , van.woerkom@netcologne.de From: Jim King Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Cc: sreid@sea-to-sky.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <15575.943675340@zippy.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:02 PM 11/26/1999 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >I wish somebody would make a port of this so that others >could follow more easily in your footsteps. Hint hint. :) Yeah, hint hint! :-) Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 20:48:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0BE151F3 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 20:48:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-as58-rs1-34.netcologne.de [195.14.226.34]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA06590; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 05:48:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA04657; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 05:47:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 05:47:17 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911270447.FAA04657@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, sreid@sea-to-sky.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <15575.943675340@zippy.cdrom.com> (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <15575.943675340@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I wish somebody would make a port of this so that others > could follow more easily in your footsteps. Hint hint. :) "Sleep is for the weak .. " :) The impatient (who can't wait another hour or two until I am finished with it) can do this: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. download q3td from http://www.quake3arena.com/demo Note: this is 50 MB! 2. grab port from http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/distfiles/glx according to what XFree86 version you use 3. nuke your old Mesa-3.0 installation 4. make build the port (it will rebuild Mesa correctly) 5. grab the instructions from http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/apps/games/quake3 (README plus the mail from Steve on Matrox and my response to RIVA) 6. Look and enjoy, and don't complain too much about lousy framerate.. Note: The RIVA driver in the port is slightly better than the one from the most recent CVS version of glx. However the Matrox driver in the port is 2-3 months behind the most recent version. So the port will work, but is slower. The CVS version might require a bit more fiddling, but is faster. (I will work on the Matrox update next week) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not expect Windows like performance. Buy a commercial OpenGL driver, or wait a bit. The performance will improve! Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 21:22:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908E2153FE for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:22:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA41888; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 00:22:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 00:22:11 -0500 (EST) From: Adam To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! In-Reply-To: <199911270447.FAA04657@oranje.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am curious how much of this can be simplified by using xfree86 3.9.16? For me it compiles out of the box on freebsd (even with gcc 2.95.2) and comes with GLX etc. It was a slight challenge to trick ports into using whatever "native" 3d stuff there was instead of software but I did manage to get glclock working. I was using a g200 and a 4m pci mystique with dualhead under X and I could tell hardware acceleration was working because glclock would just smear up when I moved it over to the monitor without hardware 3d. :) Anyone know if G400 is supported at least as well in any aspects? (GLX and dualhead support) On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: >> I wish somebody would make a port of this so that others >> could follow more easily in your footsteps. Hint hint. :) > > "Sleep is for the weak .. " :) > > >The impatient (who can't wait another hour or two until >I am finished with it) can do this: > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 1. download q3td from > > http://www.quake3arena.com/demo > > Note: this is 50 MB! > > > 2. grab port from > > http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/distfiles/glx > > according to what XFree86 version you use > > > 3. nuke your old Mesa-3.0 installation > > 4. make build the port (it will rebuild Mesa correctly) > > 5. grab the instructions from > > http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/apps/games/quake3 > > (README plus the mail from Steve on Matrox and my response to RIVA) > > 6. Look and enjoy, and don't complain too much about lousy framerate.. > > > Note: The RIVA driver in the port is slightly better than > the one from the most recent CVS version of glx. > > However the Matrox driver in the port is 2-3 months behind > the most recent version. So the port will work, but is slower. > The CVS version might require a bit more fiddling, but is > faster. (I will work on the Matrox update next week) > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Please do not expect Windows like performance. >Buy a commercial OpenGL driver, or wait a bit. >The performance will improve! > >Regards, >Marc > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 21:47:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765E814FA7 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:47:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-as58-rs1-34.netcologne.de [195.14.226.34]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07351; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 06:47:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA05372; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 06:46:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 06:46:09 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911270546.GAA05372@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: bsdx@looksharp.net Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, multimedia@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Adam on Sat, 27 Nov 1999 00:22:11 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am curious how much of this can be simplified by using xfree86 > 3.9.16? For me it compiles out of the box on freebsd (even with gcc > 2.95.2) and comes with GLX etc. GLX is used for two things, the OpenGL over X protocol itself (glx) and the indirect rendering mechanism. (See the X11 greenbook by Mark Kilgard) The GLX from the XFree86 3.9.x snapshots is from SGI and has nothing to do with the implementation by the openprojects.net team. > did manage to get glclock working. I was using a g200 and a 4m pci > mystique with dualhead under X and I could tell hardware acceleration was > working because glclock would just smear up when I moved it over to the > monitor without hardware 3d. :) I am surprised because I am not aware of any hardware acceleration in the 3.9.16 tree, except maybe for that highend card that used to serve as DRI reference implementation. Also the free glx modules should not work together with the 3.9.x snapshots. Because it is late, and I had one of those deadline weeks behind me, I might see little green elephants already and you might better check the FAQ yourself at http://glx.on.openprojects.net My guess is that G200 software rendering is simply a bit faster than the mystique's one. > Anyone know if G400 is supported at least as well in any aspects? > (GLX and dualhead support) The openprojects glx is supporting the G400 Warp core. (No, I am not talking trekese here) Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 21:52:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D82D14FA7 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:52:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA42073; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 00:52:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 00:52:37 -0500 (EST) From: Adam To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too In-Reply-To: <199911270546.GAA05372@oranje.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: >The GLX from the XFree86 3.9.x snapshots is from SGI and has nothing to do >with the implementation by the openprojects.net team. Ahh, I did not know that. >My guess is that G200 software rendering is simply a bit faster than the >mystique's one. Hmm I am not sure if it is doing it in hardware or not, but I assumed it was because the rendering would completely stop when the window being displayed by the myst. Perhaps that GLX was only doing it in software, and only for the G200. >> Anyone know if G400 is supported at least as well in any aspects? >> (GLX and dualhead support) > >The openprojects glx is supporting the G400 Warp core. (No, I am >not talking trekese here) Ahh more good news. I look forward to being able to afford new computer parts :) > > >Regards, >Marc > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 26 23:20:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D7514F97 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:20:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sugiura@kt.rim.or.jp) Received: from surgent (ppp122.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.139.122]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with SMTP id QAA02371 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 16:20:17 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 16:20:17 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199911270720.QAA02371@mail.kt.rim.or.jp> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How to capture and save 24bpp or 32bpp Video ? From: sugiura@kt.rim.or.jp (Sugiura Shiro) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.21PL5] 1999-04/04(Sun) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please, excuse my poor writing skill. I want to captune and save video 24bpp or 32bpp with bt848, bt878 video capture card on FreeBSD3.2RELEASE. Fxtv1.02 suports capture and display 32bpp , but save to HDD only 16bit color. Dose exist a "patch" to save 24ppp or 32bpp video with fxtv, or any other software which can save data 24bpp, 32bpp ? Thank you. -- Sugiura Shiro (Japan Tokyo) E-mail : sugiura@kt.rim.or.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 27 0:30:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413E714D41 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 00:30:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-as58-rs1-34.netcologne.de [195.14.226.34]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10191; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:30:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11680; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:29:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:29:45 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911270829.JAA11680@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: linux_glx Port Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The port that will fetch and install the glx aware Linux lib is ready. http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/distfiles/glx/linux/linux_glx.shar.bz2 If you know a way to make it just install without creating a bogus Makefile, please tell me. Next mail will be port for q3test installation .. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 27 10:26:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D4F14C36 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 10:26:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA17637 Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:26:19 GMT Message-ID: <3840224A.446B@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:26:19 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: es1371/1373 datasheets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone have the Ensoniq (Now Creative) ES1371 and 1373 datasheets. They have gone from the Ensoniq site. Roger -- Roger Hardiman | Telepresence Research Group roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | DMEM, University of Strathclyde tel: 0141 548 2897 | Glasgow, Scotland, G1 1XJ, UK fax: 0141 552 0557 | http://www.telepresence.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 27 12:15:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C271414CCC for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:15:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-ra-nc4-164.netcologne.de [195.14.254.164]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10029; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:14:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05055; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:14:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:14:03 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911272014.VAA05055@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: king@sstar.com Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, van.woerkom@netcologne.de, sreid@sea-to-sky.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <4.2.0.58.19991126220749.01662ca8@mail.sstar.com> (message from Jim King on Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:08:20 -0600) Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <4.2.0.58.19991126220749.01662ca8@mail.sstar.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Done. There were some pitfalls, but I think I have something now that can be turned into an easy solution with some additional help. Stuff and instructions are on: http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/apps/games/quake3 I split it up into three parts (glx, linux_glx and q3test). Theremaining problem is to add the correct dependencies, so that building q3test would build all other necessary stuff. (Chris, could have a look at it? I want that stuff in the ports tree and would need your comments on what to change :) So for now you have to download all three ports archives, unpack and build them in the correct order. I would also appreciate: - where the bloody config is stored, as 1280x1024 resolution works not correctly, and it will start up again in that mode - where does it store that resolution? - possible commandline options - how to make screen shots, that game binds the cursor and keyboard to its window, even if it is not full screen. Tried xv with delay, but I had no luck so far. Looking into the binary, it seems to have the possibility to allow screenshots, but how? :) - Is it possible to print out some benchmarks? How? Happy trying, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 27 12:36:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from lorien.odc.net (lorien.odc.net [207.137.42.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5CD14EE5 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:36:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nwestfal@lorien.odc.net) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by lorien.odc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00819 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:36:47 -0800 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:36:47 -0800 (PST) From: Neal Westfall To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: 1371 driver in current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am using the new 1371 driver in current with the Creative AudioPCI card. It doesn't seem to play wav files correctly. If I use play or splay, it usually works the first time after booting up, but then any sound I try to play after that either produces no output at all or only a portion of the file (usually with the beginning of the wav file cut off). I see no error messages from the kernel. Probe message looks normal: pcm0: irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 Anyone else see this problem? Neal -- Neal Westfall | mailto:nwestfal@odc.net | http://www.odc.net/~nwestfal "What is today a matter of academic speculation begins tomorrow to move armies and pull down empires. In that second stage, it has gone too far to be combatted; the time to stop it was when it was still a matter of impassionate debate." -- J. Gresham Machen, "Christianity and Culture" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 27 12:42:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from norn.ca.eu.org (cr965240-b.abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.19.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C79215532 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:42:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cpiazza@norn.ca.eu.org) Received: by norn.ca.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DDE0C15C; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:42:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:42:04 -0800 From: Chris Piazza To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: king@sstar.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, sreid@sea-to-sky.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Message-ID: <19991127124204.A288@norn.ca.eu.org> References: <4.2.0.58.19991126220749.01662ca8@mail.sstar.com> <199911272014.VAA05055@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911272014.VAA05055@oranje.my.domain>; from van.woerkom@netcologne.de on Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 09:14:03PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 09:14:03PM +0100, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > Done. There were some pitfalls, but I think I have something now that can be > turned into an easy solution with some additional help. > > Stuff and instructions are on: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/apps/games/quake3 > > I split it up into three parts (glx, linux_glx and q3test). > > Theremaining problem is to add the correct dependencies, so > that building q3test would build all other necessary stuff. > > (Chris, could have a look at it? I want that stuff in > the ports tree and would need your comments on what > to change :) Hi. the ports look good, only a couple minor nits. q3test: You should use NO_BUILD= yes instead of creating a dummy Makefile. linux_glx, no problems. glx, did we ever get the PLIST sorted out for this port? Other than that it was fine IIRC. > - how to make screen shots, that game binds the cursor > and keyboard to its window, even if it is not full screen. > Tried xv with delay, but I had no luck so far. > Looking into the binary, it seems to have the possibility > to allow screenshots, but how? :) F11 > > - Is it possible to print out some benchmarks? How? Yes, but I don't remember how :-). -Chris -- cpiazza@jaxon.net cpiazza@FreeBSD.org Abbotsford, BC, Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 27 14:41:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from tusk.mountain-inter.net (tusk.mountain-inter.net [204.244.200.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710D914DB3 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:41:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sreid@sea-to-sky.net) Received: from grok.localnet (unknown@analog7.sq.mntn.net [204.244.200.16]) by tusk.mountain-inter.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01031; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:41:23 -0800 Received: by grok.localnet (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C71F5212E07; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:42:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:42:23 -0800 From: Steve Reid To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: king@sstar.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Message-ID: <19991127144223.A417@grok.localnet> References: <4.2.0.58.19991126220749.01662ca8@mail.sstar.com> <199911272014.VAA05055@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199911272014.VAA05055@oranje.my.domain>; from Marc van Woerkom on Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 09:14:03PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 09:14:03PM +0100, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > - Is it possible to print out some benchmarks? How? Hit ~ to bring up the Q3 console, then type: set timedemo 1 demo demo001 When the demo finishes playing press ~ to bring up the console again. The FPS numbers should be there just above the prompt. You can also show FPS in real-time while playing. The console command is set cg_drawfps 1 Q3 under FreeBSD has an annoying bug with text entry in that pressing Shift will re-type the previously typed character. To enter "cg_drawfps" you need to type "cgggdrawfps". The backspace deletes the third G, the shift repeats the backspace and deletes the second G, then pressing - while the shift key is down of course produces the _. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 27 17: 0:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C128F14BF3 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:00:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-as58-rs1-83.netcologne.de [195.14.226.83]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA18577; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:00:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00858; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:59:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:59:53 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911280059.BAA00858@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: sreid@sea-to-sky.net Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, king@sstar.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19991127144223.A417@grok.localnet> (message from Steve Reid on Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:42:23 -0800) Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <4.2.0.58.19991126220749.01662ca8@mail.sstar.com> <199911272014.VAA05055@oranje.my.domain> <19991127144223.A417@grok.localnet> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you. In the meantime it became clear to me where q3a is saving its configuration: not in /root/.q3a but of course in /compat/linux/root/.q3a I will add all those tips to the description. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 27 17: 2:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01A314BF3 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:02:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-as58-rs1-83.netcologne.de [195.14.226.83]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA18579; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:00:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00769; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:59:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:59:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911280059.BAA00769@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: cpiazza@jaxon.net Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19991127124204.A288@norn.ca.eu.org> (message from Chris Piazza on Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:42:04 -0800) Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <4.2.0.58.19991126220749.01662ca8@mail.sstar.com> <199911272014.VAA05055@oranje.my.domain> <19991127124204.A288@norn.ca.eu.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > q3test: > You should use > NO_BUILD= yes I change that tomorrow. > glx, did we ever get the PLIST sorted out for this port? Other than > that it was fine IIRC. Fine and PLIST too. The other thing was just a bit caution from my side, because I have no card to test the Matrox driver. Any idea how to couple ports not too tightly? Is it posible to check for registrations (the db queried using pkg_info) and not for present libs or files? Example: I want to rebuild the glx version that is available in my systems ports tree only if no version of glx at all is registered. If there is any version registered nothing should happen. Thanks, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 27 17: 2:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C316014BF3 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:02:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-as58-rs1-83.netcologne.de [195.14.226.83]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA18588; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:01:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00769; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:59:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:59:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911280059.BAA00769@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: cpiazza@jaxon.net Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19991127124204.A288@norn.ca.eu.org> (message from Chris Piazza on Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:42:04 -0800) Subject: Re: Success: Quake 3 DemoTest under FreeBSD with RIVA TNT too! Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <4.2.0.58.19991126220749.01662ca8@mail.sstar.com> <199911272014.VAA05055@oranje.my.domain> <19991127124204.A288@norn.ca.eu.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > q3test: > You should use > NO_BUILD= yes I change that tomorrow. > glx, did we ever get the PLIST sorted out for this port? Other than > that it was fine IIRC. Fine and PLIST too. The other thing was just a bit caution from my side, because I have no card to test the Matrox driver. Any idea how to couple ports not too tightly? Is it posible to check for registrations (the db queried using pkg_info) and not for present libs or files? Example: I want to rebuild the glx version that is available in my systems ports tree only if no version of glx at all is registered. If there is any version registered nothing should happen. Thanks, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 27 18:43:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06C415589 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:43:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-198.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.198]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00150; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA09026; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:43:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:43:54 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Sugiura Shiro Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to capture and save 24bpp or 32bpp Video ? Message-ID: <19991127214354.A8405@ipass.net> References: <199911270720.QAA02371@mail.kt.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <199911270720.QAA02371@mail.kt.rim.or.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sugiura Shiro: |I want to captune and save video 24bpp or 32bpp with bt848, bt878 |video capture card on FreeBSD3.2RELEASE. Fxtv1.02 suports capture |and display 32bpp , but save to HDD only 16bit color. | |Dose exist a "patch" to save 24ppp or 32bpp video with fxtv, |or any other software which can save data 24bpp, 32bpp ? I'm not 100% sure I know what you're looking for. Let me describe what it does. When capturing video in RGB format, for now, Fxtv always captures in 16-bpp. When saving these images (we assumes your capture target is "Images", not "MPEG" or "MPEG Ready"), it saves in either 24-bpp TIFF or 24-bpp PPM format. Admittedly this isn't that great if you want high quality images (vs images captured as fast as possible). When I wrote this, I was more interested in the latter. This was before YUV was supported, so I stuck with the lowest-bandwidth capture format: RGB16. What was needed was a convert-any-to-any image format converter. I made a first start at this in Fxtv 1.02 by separating out the code used to convert images for display so it could be shared by the image and video capture sections (see the videolib/ subdirectory in the fxtv src dist): void VIDEOLIBConvertImage( VL_IMAGE *src, VL_IMAGE *dst ); Currently it only handles RGB->RGB conversions, but my intent was to support YUV->RGB as well so, for example, one could capture images using IYUV (Planar 122:122) and then save 24 or 32-bpp, or other permutations. So is you request to be able to 'capture' images using a depth > 16, saving these images as 24-bpp TIFF or PPM images? Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 27 19: 6:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550CA14EDC for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:06:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-198.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.198]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02901; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA10467; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:06:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:06:39 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Steve Thrower Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Capture Mpeg Message-ID: <19991127220639.A9219@ipass.net> References: <000801bf38a5$78d138c0$16984ed8@cha.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <000801bf38a5$78d138c0$16984ed8@cha.bellsouth.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Thrower: | Dear Mr. Hopper, I don't know how to program but would like to get my | Hauppauge winTv card to capture in mpeg,Do you know how I can get a | program that will do this? If you're running FreeBSD, just install the "fxtv" package and run "fxtv". Check out the docs at: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fxtv/README Briefly, use File->Save Video As... See section 3.0 of the README for tips on saving video. For max bandwidth, capture using the IYUV format. Due to mpeg_encode limitations, capture at 24, 25, or 30 fps (whatever works best for your available disk bandwidth). Also, if you have multiple hard disks, you may find it useful to specify capture files on multiple disks. E.g.: Fxtv.videoCapFile1: /data/00-CAPTURE/fxtv.cap Fxtv.videoCapFile2: /32_share/00-CAPTURE/fxtv.cap !Fxtv.videoCapFile3: /share_bak/00-CAPTURE/fxtv.cap One other tip. For reasons I need to track down, using the "MPEG" target doesn't always work. Instead, capture using the "MPEG Ready" target, and after Recording and hitting "Stop", run the .sh script fxtv creates to do the actual encoding. Let me know how it goes! Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message