Personally, I've used redhat & = openlinux (gee,=20 simple to install, no c
compiler by default, and it crashes a lot... = Just=20 like Windows, neat, ummm,
yeah) and kind of like FreeBSD better... = Just a=20 personal thing... I find
you're more likely to be forced to recompile = the=20 kernel, but that doing it
is a much easier / more reliable process = for=20 someone somewhat unix
illiterate like me...

    = As for=20 X, you have tried doing a post install configure = using
/stand/sysinstall's X=20 config thing (in the post-install configuration)
n'est-ce-pas? = The=20 hardest part, in my experience, is finding a refresh
rate/colour=20 depth/resolution combo that both your monitor and your graphics
card = like at=20 the same time... Make sure you have your = monitor's
specifications in=20 hand (H & V refresh rates) and whatever you do, don't
choose = 24bit=20 colour; go with 32bit or 16bit... Something about the way X
allocates = colours=20 makes apps think they have 32bit and then panic when they
realize = they don't=20 (I think (usually reverting to monochrome)).

    = It'd help=20 to know what the error msg you get when it crashes is... You
might = also want=20 to look at .xclients and .xsession in your ~ ($HOME)
directory; make = sure=20 they look something like the following:

gnome-session = &
exec=20 your_window_manager

    I think the "gnome session = &"=20 part might be optional.

    You might also try = asking=20 freebsd-questions instead of newbies, you'll
get an answer who's = likelyhood=20 of being right is much greater, but be sure
to include your error msg = and=20 keep it short and to the point (well, that's
my experience=20 anyway).

    BTW, I've always found X much nicer = when you=20 install ttf support (12
butt ugly fonts is not my idea of pretty), = you=20 probably already know this,
but if you install xfsftt from your CD (I = don't=20 think it's on CD #1 though),
modify the font paths in your XF86Config = file to=20 include (at the end of the
list) "unix:/7100" (or was that = "unix/:7100"?) and=20 then create the file
rc.local in your /etc dir with 'echo "starting = true type=20 font server \n" ;
xfstt &' in it, you can use ttf fonts like the = rest of=20 the not-unix world.

----- Original Message -----
From: Greg W = <redhat_list@hotmail.com>To:=20 <martinm@visualedge.com>
= Sent:=20 Wednesday, October 13, 1999 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: remembering last = keystrokes=20 + net q

Thanks , was exactly as I was after, I am used to = bash as=20 default, gotta see
if I can get used to the BSD thing (used to = RH)
was a=20 pain retyping commands whilst building first kernel :-)

I cant = get X to=20 run properly either, any tips there ? it fires up but dies
cause = there is no=20 gnome-session ???

I am not sure here as have not played with X a = lot, as=20 have always had
running from default installs = .....

>From:=20 "Martin Mactaggart" <martinm@visualedge.com>
= >To:=20 "Greg W" <redhat_list@hotmail.com>>Subject:=20 Re: remembering last keystrokes + net q
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 = 12:03:20=20 -0400
>
>     use the command "chsh" = (which will=20 invoke "vi" on your profile file,
>type "man vi" if you don't know = how to=20 use vi) to change your shell to
>"bash" or maybe "tcsh"... = It's not=20 FreeBSD that is/sin't remembering your
>keystrokes but rather it = is your=20 shell interpreter which manages=20 said
>behaviour...
>
>
>----- Original Message=20 -----
>From: Greg W <redhat_list@hotmail.com>>To:=20 <FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Sent:=20 Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:15 AM
>Subject: remembering last = keystrokes +=20 net q
>
>
>Hi all
>
>Not sure if its the = keyboard=20 setup or if I need to edit a file, but how do
>I
>get = FreeBSD to=20 remember the x number of last commands typed so I can = scroll
>through them=20 ?
>
>I have a few network questions to follow, but I want to = get X=20 working first
>to see what tools are there
>
>I know = ifconfig=20 is for adding net routes etc, not sure where I specify
>gateways,=20 nameservers etc , i take it there is a graphical tool or=20 menu
>driven one
>
>Thanks=20 all
>
>Greg
>
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>
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------=_NextPart_000_005D_01BF155C.E61E1950-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 13 8:14:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.shore.net (polaris.shore.net [207.244.124.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4839D15429 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rothenberg@automationonline.com) Received: from shore.shore.net [192.233.85.136] by polaris.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG id 11bQ6d-0005TO-00; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:14:19 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by shore.shore.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id LAA05532 for shore!FreeBSD.ORG!freebsd-newbies; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from baffle. automationonline.com by slider.automationonline.com via SMTP (911016.SGI/911001.SGI) for shore!FreeBSD.ORG!freebsd-newbies id AA12961; Wed, 13 Oct 99 11:18:37 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991013111434.0071b580@slider> X-Sender: rothenberg@slider X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:14:34 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael Rothenberg Subject: Disks...? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was reading in the complete free bsd about how fbsd organises a disk. I got confused. All I want is a dedicated fbsd pc with one physical drive. On that drive it seems that it will be divided up into 4 slices(which come after the MBR and partition table)? Cant I just have 1 slice be the whole drive? So my root, swap, and /usr will be on the same big slice. Or do these slices become transparent to all? Or is it required that I have a different slice for each..?? I didnt bring the book to work or I would list page nums };) Thanks! -michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 13 9: 7:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from trill.hh.se (trill.hh.se [194.47.5.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C00F14CBB for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:07:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from u98jobj@stud.hh.se) Received: from gs177 (klart@gs177.gsten.hh.se [194.47.16.177]) by trill.hh.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA20977; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:05:02 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000501bf1595$49bb8640$b1102fc2@gsten.hh.se> From: =?iso-8859-1?B?Sm9lbCBCavZyaw==?= To: , "Michael Rothenberg" References: <3.0.3.32.19991013111434.0071b580@slider> Subject: SV: Disks...? Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:09:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Read the installation chapter. It tells you how to link the /var and /tmp dir. All slice are mounted on the / dir except for the swap slice so the only = problem you can have if you follow the directions in Complete FreeBSD is = that your root directory fills up but that won't normally happen. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Rothenberg To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 5:14 PM Subject: Disks...? > I was reading in the complete free bsd about how fbsd organises a = disk. I > got confused. All I want is a dedicated fbsd pc with one physical = drive. On > that drive it seems that it will be divided up into 4 slices(which = come > after the MBR and partition table)? Cant I just have 1 slice be the = whole > drive? So my root, swap, and /usr will be on the same big slice. >=20 > Or do these slices become transparent to all? Or is it required that I = have > a different slice for each..?? >=20 > I didnt bring the book to work or I would list page nums };) >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > -michael >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 13 9:52:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F24156AA for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id JAA31298; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:52:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199910131652.JAA31298@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, rothenberg@automationonline.com, u98jobj@stud.hh.se Subject: Re: SV: Disks...? In-Reply-To: <000501bf1595$49bb8640$b1102fc2@gsten.hh.se> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: =?iso-8859-1?B?Sm9lbCBCavZyaw==?= >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:09:11 +0200 >Read the installation chapter. >It tells you how to link the /var and /tmp dir. Good advice, generally.... >All slice are mounted on the / dir except for the swap slice so the only problem you can have if you follow the directions in Complete FreeBSD is that your root directory fills up but that won't normally happen. But here we're venturing into dangerous territory... and why we try to avoid dealing with -questions material on -newbies. Briefly, in UNIX (generally): * File systems are "mounted" at "mount points" (which are created as directories in the "parent" file systems). So we have a "root" file system, /; it has some files (like /kernel) and some directories (like /dev, /etc, and /usr). Some of these directories contain files and (sub-directories), such as /etc. Some are often (traditinally) empty, such as /usr and /mnt. It is these latter directories that are used as "mount points" -- the "mount" process grafts an entire file system onto the tree at the mount point, so a person or a process that is using the system merely refers to a (relative or absolute) path name for a file, and the system takes care of dealing with which file system(s) get used to get there. It is, however, not usually necessary to split the available disk up into separate file systems. (Historically, this was done in large part because a "big" disk was 600 MB, and the only way you could get a large amount of disk space that was usable for the entire system was to have lots of spinning disks. It would have been possible to have created a "super file system" that would make use of multiple disk drives, but that was sufficiently complicated that it was fairly specialized -- and pretty recent in the history of UNIX (which is about 30 years old). And you can actually mount a new file system onto a non-empty directory, but I mention this more for completeness. It may have some uses, but they tend to be out of the mainstream. [Yes, I've done it, deliberately. In my case, it was a gross hack to circumvent a vendor's shortcoming in the infrastructure needed for the "restore" program.] * It is not necessary to only use a directory in / as a mount point. Whether or not it is desirable depends on the circumstances. For example, I will often make /usr/local a physically separate disk drive, with its file system mounted on /usr (which, in turn, is mounted on /). The reason for this is that it makes a *very* clear separation between the OS and things I've been tweaking: when it comes time to upgrade the OS, I don't even need /usr/local connected to the system -- that way, I *know* the upgrade can't trash it. (Granted, this is referring more to how I do things in non-FreeBSD systems.) As to "slices" -- FreeBSD is the first UNIX version I've used where the concept applies. (Solaris 2.x uses the term about half the time to refer to partitions, and the other half still uses "partition". For example, within "format", one uses the "partition" command to get to the place for defining "slices" Go figure.) And slices are not mounted; file systems are. Slices are regions of disk where (UNIX) partitions are created; partitions may be used for swap, for file systems, or left for raw access by specialized programs (like databases). And just in case anyone might get confused on the topic, swap space isn't mounted, period. (And you do *NOT* want to have overlapping active file systems, or active file systems that overlap active swap space, or overlapping active swap spaces. That way lies disaster.) Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 13 12:45:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from honk.org (cr876208-a.flfrd1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.90.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F035814EFA for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:45:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpoulin@honk.org) Received: from spectre (mpoulin@cr876208-a.flfrd1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.90.129]) by honk.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA04950 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:45:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:45:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Marty Poulin X-Sender: mpoulin@spectre To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SV: Disks...? In-Reply-To: <199910131652.JAA31298@pau-amma.whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sort of on the subject, I've been wondering for the last little while whether it would be beneficial to assign the swap partition to a separate disk - has anyone tried this? If so, how did you find it affected system performance? Common sense tells me that it would speed the system up, especially if the swap disk is on a separate controller, but common sense has been known to lie to me in the past. M To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 13 13: 6:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from joe.halenet.com.au (joe.halenet.com.au [203.37.141.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8C814C3A for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:06:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from donh@halenet.com.au) Received: from igor (modem-51-warw.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.51]) by joe.halenet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA27763 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:08:40 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from donh@halenet.com.au) Message-ID: <001701bf15b6$543bce60$332137cb@igor> From: "Don Hansford" To: References: <3.0.3.32.19991013111434.0071b580@slider> Subject: Re: Disks...? Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:05:40 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The result of having your root, swap & usr on seperate slices is that the swap file doesn't get confused (ala Windows), and cause freezes & hangs as it tries to overwrite system files,etc. It is a better system, trust me! :-)) Regards Igor **************************************************** * "I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades" * **************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Rothenberg To: Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 1:14 AM Subject: Disks...? > I was reading in the complete free bsd about how fbsd organises a disk. I > got confused. All I want is a dedicated fbsd pc with one physical drive. On > that drive it seems that it will be divided up into 4 slices(which come > after the MBR and partition table)? Cant I just have 1 slice be the whole > drive? So my root, swap, and /usr will be on the same big slice. > > Or do these slices become transparent to all? Or is it required that I have > a different slice for each..?? > > I didnt bring the book to work or I would list page nums };) > > Thanks! > > -michael > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 13 13:16:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39B915337 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:16:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA32458; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:15:42 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199910132015.NAA32458@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: donh@halenet.com.au, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Disks...? In-Reply-To: <001701bf15b6$543bce60$332137cb@igor> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: "Don Hansford" >Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:05:40 +1000 >The result of having your root, swap & usr on seperate slices is that the >swap file Careful, there. Although it's possible to set up a file (within a file system) for swapping, that's not a topic that I would reasonably expect a FreeBSD newbie to be familiar with. [It may be a matter of familiarity, but I find the SunOS approach much easier to administer. Performance may be a different matter, though....] >doesn't get confused (ala Windows), and cause freezes & hangs as >it tries to overwrite system files,etc. That degree of separation does not require separate "slices" -- just separate "partitions". >It is a better system, trust me! :-)) :-} Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 13 13:27: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175F015704 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 13:26:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19155; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:30:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991013162612.00a1f564@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:26:12 -0400 To: Marty Poulin From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: SV: Disks...? Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <199910131652.JAA31298@pau-amma.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:45 PM 10/13/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Sort of on the subject, > >I've been wondering for the last little while whether it would be >beneficial to assign the swap partition to a separate disk - has anyone >tried this? If so, how did you find it affected system performance? >Common sense tells me that it would speed the system up, >especially if the swap disk is on a separate controller, >but common sense has been known to lie to me in the past. > > >M I'm by no means an expert, but... I think a common optimization is to split the swap space evenly among several or all of your disks. (Yes, swap can be on more than one disk) As for using a seperate controller, I think that is taking it a bit far. Unless you're already using the maximum amount of RAM for your motherboard/architecture, the money would be better spent on additional RAM. Ideally you shouldn't _be_ swapping very much. Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 13 18:37:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7EB14DF6 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:37:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim.chapman@sympatico.ca) Received: from LOCALNAME (Kingston-ppp64677.sympatico.ca [216.208.85.58]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA09044 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3804EE74.7E4@sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:41:24 +0100 From: jim chapman Reply-To: jim.chapman@sympatico.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@Freebsd.org Subject: jpeg files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to print a jpeg file that I downloaded. I seems ghostscript should be able to do this but I can't find the magic combination of commands and/or .ps files to do it. Can anyone help? Is there a better alternative? I am running 3.1. Thanks, Jim Chapman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 13 18:51: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from copland.udel.edu (copland.udel.edu [128.175.13.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B521539C for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:51:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from papalia@UDel.Edu) Received: from morgaine.avalon.com (host75-157.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.157]) by copland.udel.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA17114; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19991013215113.00949640@unix01.voicenet.com> X-Sender: papalia@mail.udel.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:52:02 -0400 To: jim.chapman@sympatico.ca, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: John Subject: Re: jpeg files In-Reply-To: <3804EE74.7E4@sympatico.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not sure if it's the type of solution you're looking for (or if it handles jpg's, actually), but check out apsfilter in ports/print... it's kinda nifty at handling file types automagically --John >I am trying to print a jpeg file that I downloaded. I seems ghostscript >should be able to do this but I can't find the magic combination of >commands and/or .ps files to do it. Can anyone help? Is there a better >alternative? I am running 3.1. > >Thanks, Jim Chapman > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 13 21:28: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from caesar.cs.montana.edu (caesar.cs.montana.edu [153.90.192.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6B614E53 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 21:28:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glassy@caesar.cs.montana.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by caesar.cs.montana.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14373 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:28:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:27:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Lou GLASSY To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: questions about freebsd as an nfs/smb fileserver Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org dear all, hello- Disclaimers: [a] I've been doing sysadmin work in one form or another for about 6 years, under Ultrix, Solaris, NetBSD, Linux, SGI Irix, OSF1/DUX, HPUX, AIX, ... [b] I'm reasonably familiar with SMP systems from a user-perspective (having three to feed, daily) and with the theoretical aspects of mulitprocessing, since among other things I'm working on my CS PhD in parallel computing. [c] I'm asking the following questions in good faith, so please spare me the flames. :-) My questions are: [1] What mailing list should I send my "FreeBSD as a fileserver" questions to? I didn't know, so I thought I'd try this list first... ? I am a college unix systems administrator. In the near future, one of the departments for whom I work is planning to get new fileserver(s) to replace our current AlphaServer 2100 5/300 running DUX. The kind of system I'm recommending will be one or more i386-type systems with lots of memory and disk, and possibly multi-cpu if that's wise. Because I am familiar with *BSD-type operating systems from an admin point of view, and because my experience to date with the reliability of at least one BSD-derivative (NetBSD), I am advocating we go with a *BSD-based solution for our fileserving needs. A number of friends at ISPs have used both NetBSD and FreeBSD under combat conditions, and have reported very favorably on how these systems perform under load, so I am comfortable recommending either. [2] Is anyone running FreeBSD as a departmental fileserver in a university environment? The kind of load I'm looking at is pretty modest -- let's say 50 unix systems as nfs clients, and up to 100 windows systems as smb clients, concurrently. The kinds of things users do during peak load times are writing code via the familiar edit-compile-bomb-cycle. I know about the ftp.cdrom.com setup, and am wondering if FreeBSD does fileserving as well as it does ftp serving... :-) [3] If you do use FreeBSD as a fileserver, is having a second CPU advantageous? If a second CPU is really a win, then I can push for the new server box to be a dual cpu unit. [4] My understanding at the moment is that FreeBSD uses a Big Lock to ensure only one kernel thread/CPU combination is active at at a time. Is this correct? (If it is, then it doesn't seem like multiple CPUs really will be that big of a win; if this isn't correct, then I have News for the person who told me this... :-) Why [3] and [4] are of interest, is that right now, the SMP question is the one visible difference I see that could make FreeBSD a better fit than my other alternative (NetBSD), which does not have SMP support at this time. The primary advantages of NetBSD for me, are simply that I've used it for a while, and that I can run NetBSD comfortably on all my current unix client systems (say, 30 AXP + 30 i386 boxes) With FreeBSD as a server, I still have to run DUX or something else (NetBSD) on my AXP clients. With NetBSD as a server, I can run the same OS on the clients + server(s), which makes the admin tasks a little more straightforward. Thanks kindly in advance for any information / perspectives you can give me- lou. -- Api the Baboon: You're just getting old and decrepit! No one will be able to stop the tidal wave of Java! Monkey 347: Is that so. Api: Absolutely! 347: Ah. So 10 million lemmings can't be wrong...? -- from "The Adventures of Code Monkey #347" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 14 5:53:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.pond.net (guppy.pond.net [205.240.25.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9DB14D9D for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:53:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gryph@mindless.com) Received: from mindless.com (snapuser2-89.pacificcrest.net [216.36.34.89]) by guppy.pond.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA05247; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3805D25C.DC8AC6FA@mindless.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:53:48 -0700 From: "D.M.P." Organization: dmp@aracnet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Rothenberg Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Confusion of terms [Was: Re: Disks...?] References: <3.0.3.32.19991013111434.0071b580@slider> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Rothenberg wrote: > > I was reading in the complete free bsd about how fbsd organises a disk. I > got confused. All I want is a dedicated fbsd pc with one physical drive. On > that drive it seems that it will be divided up into 4 slices(which come > after the MBR and partition table)? Cant I just have 1 slice be the whole > drive? So my root, swap, and /usr will be on the same big slice. > > Or do these slices become transparent to all? Or is it required that I have > a different slice for each..?? > > I didnt bring the book to work or I would list page nums };) You have to be careful with the terminology. There's slices and there is partitions. What FreeBSD calls a slice, Windows and DOS call a partition. /, /usr, and /var are all partitions, usually within the same slice. So normally, you'd give FreeBSD one slice, then partition it into swap, /, /usr, and so on. I'll use a DOS/Window analogy: In DOS fdisk, you can make a "DOS Extended Parition". This partition would be called a slice in FreeBSD parlance. Within that DOS Extended Partition, you have to make "Logical DOS Drives" so DOS/Windows can use the space. In FreeBSD, these Logical DOS Drives would be called partitions, and like with DOS, FreeBSD has to have partitions within the slice to use that space. You could look at the first Logical DOS Drive as FreeBSD's / partition, the second as the /usr partition, the third as the swap partition, and so on. With this in mind: To make a dedicated FreeBSD computer, use fdisk to make a single slice that takes up the entire disk, then use disklabel to make the /, swap, and other partitions within that slice. -- "Nothing is more noble, nothing more venerable than fidelity. Truth and faithfulness are the most sacred excellences and endowments of the human mind." -- Cicero To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 14 5:57: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.pond.net (guppy.pond.net [205.240.25.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E7314D9D for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gryph@mindless.com) Received: from mindless.com (snapuser2-89.pacificcrest.net [216.36.34.89]) by guppy.pond.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA05436; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3805D316.9EC37F48@mindless.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:56:54 -0700 From: "D.M.P." Organization: dmp@aracnet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marty Poulin Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SV: Disks...? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marty Poulin wrote: > > Sort of on the subject, > > I've been wondering for the last little while whether it would be > beneficial to assign the swap partition to a separate disk - has anyone > tried this? If so, how did you find it affected system performance? > Common sense tells me that it would speed the system up, > especially if the swap disk is on a separate controller, > but common sense has been known to lie to me in the past. Putting the swap partition on a seperate disk does improve performance. But you won't see much improvement if both drives are on the same IDE cable because only one drive can be reading or writing at any given moment. You'll get the most improvement if the drives are on seperate IDE cables or on SCSI, where both drives can be reading or writing at the same time. This holds true for any OS that uses swap-space. -- "Nothing is more noble, nothing more venerable than fidelity. Truth and faithfulness are the most sacred excellences and endowments of the human mind." -- Cicero To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 14 7:16:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3FF14C32 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA08901 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:16:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:16:32 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: ICQ Message-ID: <19991015001631.B8361@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone here use ICQ regularly under FreeBSD and have a favourite program to recommend? I need something that will facilitate extended chat, not just send messages, and I don't have enough ICQ experience or enthusiasm to go playing with all of the ports. Well, I did start doing that and didn't like any of them, but I'm way too hard to please. If one program is known to be worth the effort I'll sweat it out on that one. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 14 7:34:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bologna.nettuno.it (bologna.nettuno.it [193.43.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597AD14F93 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:34:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bigio@comune.jesi.ancona.it) Received: from plutone.jesi.nettuno.it (gcw02.jesi.nettuno.it [193.207.7.243]) by bologna.nettuno.it (8.9.3/8.9.3/NETTuno 3.3) with SMTP id QAA16905; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:33:44 +0200 (MDT) From: Gi� Reply-To: bigio@comune.jesi.ancona.it To: Sue Blake , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ICQ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:30:04 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain References: <19991015001631.B8361@welearn.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99101416314002.00350@plutone.jesi.nettuno.it> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Sue Blake wrote: > Does anyone here use ICQ regularly under FreeBSD and have a favourite > program to recommend? > Try to install licq, it can do all what mirabilis icq can do. Bye Gio' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 14 8:12: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.visualedge.com (visualedge.com [207.139.24.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F0FD1504F for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martinm@visualedge.com) Received: from pony by vedge with SMTP (8.6.11/) id LAA07043; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:07:35 -0400 Message-ID: <005a01bf1656$66a85690$a600a8c0@visualedge.com> From: "Martin Mactaggart" To: "Sue Blake" , References: <19991015001631.B8361@welearn.com.au> Subject: Re: ICQ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:11:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't understand if you mean extended chat as in through ICQ, or by itself... You could try the java version of ICQ from mirabillis, I hear it works well and could tell you more if I'd ever gotten jdk to work on FreeBSD (what the heck is a "green thread"?)... Personally though, my fav UNIX ICQ client is ICQnix, it seems fully featured. Has a chat feature, for example... As far as full featured stand alone chats go, you might try kvIRC (I think it's included in KDE but can be dl'ed seperately) or mIRC (16 or 32 bit) using wine (the latter works very well even with older versions of wine) though for some reason if I run wine and xfsftt at the same time, wine will fail to start, xfsftt crashes about two minutes later and a little while after that X is frozen... ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Blake To: Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 10:16 AM Subject: ICQ Does anyone here use ICQ regularly under FreeBSD and have a favourite program to recommend? I need something that will facilitate extended chat, not just send messages, and I don't have enough ICQ experience or enthusiasm to go playing with all of the ports. Well, I did start doing that and didn't like any of them, but I'm way too hard to please. If one program is known to be worth the effort I'll sweat it out on that one. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 14 9:11:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kersur.net (mail.kersur.net [199.79.199.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C16B14E41 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:11:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bcohen@bpecreative.com) Received: from mojomatic (nas-3-49.boston.navinet.net [216.67.3.49]) by mail.kersur.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA06867 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Bob Cohen" To: "Free-BSD Newbies Mailing List" Subject: A Success Story plus A compass anyone? Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:12:56 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bf165e$f9c94f80$dfdfdfdf@mojomatic> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey All, I am among the latest of the success stories, which is to say that I got FreeBSD to install and I can log in from my local terminal. Actually turning it into a fully functional tool is, well, another matter entirely. The next thing I want to do is provide dial-up access to shell accounts on that machine. Greg Lehey's three-inch-thick tome doesn't seem to address this in a straight forward manner. Can anyone point me in the right direction for information about how to do this? Thanks. Also I've been trying to subscribe to the questions mailing list and for some reason, every time I respond with the auth code, majordomo sends me an error message stating that I need to send the auth code. Ugh! Has my reputation as a troublemaker preceded me ;-)? Bob Cohen b.p.e.Creative Web Design and Production P.O. Box 192 508.384.6054 Sheldonville, MA 02093 bcohen@bpecreative.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 14 9:47:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.multinet-media.com (ns1.multinet-media.com [207.18.212.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CC5150C2 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:47:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drew@multinet-media.com) Received: from multinet-media.com (231door249.door.net [208.234.231.249]) by ns1.multinet-media.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04589; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:41:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from drew@multinet-media.com) Message-ID: <3805B4D8.43CF4BA6@multinet-media.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:47:52 +0100 From: Drew Wiggins Organization: MultiNetMedia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Mactaggart Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ICQ References: <19991015001631.B8361@welearn.com.au> <005a01bf1656$66a85690$a600a8c0@visualedge.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------907E90C06D11A22DC482D04F" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------907E90C06D11A22DC482D04F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "green thread" - well, we know what a thread is. the green part of it comes in part from java's history. The research group that was organized to inplement interactive os's in household appliances was named Green. There's alot of interesting stuff behind Java if that sort of stuff interests you, if not you at least know where the "green" comes from. Martin Mactaggart wrote: > I don't understand if you mean extended chat as in through ICQ, or by > itself... > > You could try the java version of ICQ from mirabillis, I hear it works > well and could tell you more if I'd ever gotten jdk to work on FreeBSD (what > the heck is a "green thread"?)... > > Personally though, my fav UNIX ICQ client is ICQnix, it seems fully > featured. Has a chat feature, for example... > > As far as full featured stand alone chats go, you might try kvIRC (I > think it's included in KDE but can be dl'ed seperately) or mIRC (16 or 32 > bit) using wine (the latter works very well even with older versions of > wine) though for some reason if I run wine and xfsftt at the same time, wine > will fail to start, xfsftt crashes about two minutes later and a little > while after that X is frozen... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Blake > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 10:16 AM > Subject: ICQ > > Does anyone here use ICQ regularly under FreeBSD and have a favourite > program to recommend? > > I need something that will facilitate extended chat, not just send > messages, and I don't have enough ICQ experience or enthusiasm to go > playing with all of the ports. Well, I did start doing that and didn't > like any of them, but I'm way too hard to please. If one program is > known to be worth the effort I'll sweat it out on that one. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message --------------907E90C06D11A22DC482D04F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="drew.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Drew Wiggins Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="drew.vcf" begin:vcard n:Wiggins;John tel;cell:(806) 786-2764 tel;fax:(806) 472-0858 tel;home:(806) 786-2764 tel;work:(806) 791-9993 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.MultiNet-Media.com/ org:MultiNetMedia;Operations version:2.1 email;internet:drew@multinet-media.com title:IT Director adr;quoted-printable:;;1316 27th Street=0D=0A;Lubbock;TX ;79405;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;15408 fn:Drew Wiggins end:vcard --------------907E90C06D11A22DC482D04F-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 14 11:43:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F56A14DB0 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:43:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@concentric.net) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id OAA01186; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:43:00 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts002d28.mer-id.concentric.net (ts002d28.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.88]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id OAA28479; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:40:57 -0600 (MDT) From: mlduke To: Bob Cohen Cc: Free-BSD Newbies Mailing List Subject: Re: A Success Story plus A compass anyone? In-Reply-To: <000201bf165e$f9c94f80$dfdfdfdf@mojomatic> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hey All, > > I am among the latest of the success stories, which is to > say that I got FreeBSD to install and I can log in from my > local terminal. Actually turning it into a fully functional > tool is, well, another matter entirely. The next thing I > want to do is provide dial-up access to shell accounts on > that machine. Greg Lehey's three-inch-thick tome doesn't > seem to address this in a straight forward manner. Can > anyone point me in the right direction for information about > how to do this? Thanks. Don't have a clue how to do it, but you could start with Apache. > troublemaker preceded me ;-)? No. You subscribe, they send you a code, you send it back. Standard procedure since some people started pretending to be other people a while back. ML Duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 14 12: 3:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from athserv.otenet.gr (athserv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F3814A2F for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a097.otenet.gr [195.167.115.97]) by athserv.otenet.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA05149 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:03:02 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (qmail 7337 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Oct 1999 10:25:33 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:25:33 +0300 From: d e a t h To: freebsd-newbies@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: jpeg files Message-ID: <19991014132533.E7186@hades.hell.gr> Reply-To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr References: <3804EE74.7E4@sympatico.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <3804EE74.7E4@sympatico.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Oct 13, 1999 at 09:41:24PM +0100, jim chapman wrote: > I am trying to print a jpeg file that I downloaded. I seems ghostscript > should be able to do this but I can't find the magic combination of > commands and/or .ps files to do it. Can anyone help? Is there a better > alternative? I am running 3.1. Hmmm, one thing you could do is use some program like XV, or Netscape, to print the image to a postscript file, and then use 'gs' to print it to the printer of your choise. -- Giorgos Keramidas, "Curse me if I'm wrong, but don't you want to Slang me?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 15 10:54:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dt050n71.san.rr.com (dt050n71.san.rr.com [204.210.31.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B93714C20 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gateway.gorean.org (gateway.gorean.org [10.0.0.1]) by dt050n71.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA56169; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:54:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:54:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt050n71.san.rr.com To: Lou GLASSY Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions about freebsd as an nfs/smb fileserver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Lou GLASSY wrote: > [c] I'm asking the > following questions in good faith, so please spare me the flames. :-) We're a fairly friendly group, and your questions were well thought out and well presented. I'd say you have nothing to worry about here. > My questions are: > > [1] What mailing list should I send my "FreeBSD as a fileserver" > questions to? Send your same post (perhaps minus the slightly paranoid preface :) to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. Good luck, Doug -- "Stop it, I'm gettin' misty." - Mel Gibson as Porter, "Payback" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 15 13:28:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.visualedge.com (visualedge.com [207.139.24.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2715314BC8 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:28:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martinm@visualedge.com) Received: from pony by vedge with SMTP (8.6.11/) id QAA11105; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:25:54 -0400 Message-ID: <003301bf174c$0812b3e0$a600a8c0@visualedge.com> From: "Martin Mactaggart" To: Subject: Real (macho-type) men (apropos 'The complete FreeBSD') Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:29:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF172A.804B5870" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF172A.804B5870 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0030_01BF172A.804B5870" ------=_NextPart_001_0030_01BF172A.804B5870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Real men don't need or read instructions. 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Real men don't need = or read=20 instructions.

Why do you think = they call them=20 'man' pages?

------=_NextPart_001_0030_01BF172A.804B5870-- ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF172A.804B5870 Content-Type: text/plain; name="PoliticallyCorrectUNIX.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="PoliticallyCorrectUNIX.txt" Politically Correct UNIX In order for UNIX=AE to survive into the nineties, it must get rid of = its intimidating commands and outmoded jargon, and become compatible with the existing standards of = our day. To this end, our technicians have come up with a new version of UNIX, System VI, for use = by the PC - that is, the "Politically Correct." System VI Release notes=20 Utilities : "man" pages are now called "person" pages.=20 Similarly, "hangman" is now the = "person_executed_by_an_oppressive_regime."=20 To avoid casting aspersions on our feline friends, the "cat" command is = now merely "domestic_quadruped."=20 To date, there has only been a UNIX command for "yes" - reflecting the = male belief that women always mean yes, even when they say no. To address this imbalance, System VI = adds a "no" command, along with a "-f[orce]" option which will crash the entire system if the "no" is = ignored. =20 The bias of the "mail" command is obvious, and it has been replaced by = the more neutral "gendre" command.=20 The "touch" command has been removed from the standard distribution due = to its inappropriate use by high-level managers.=20 "compress" has been replaced by the lightweight "feather" command. Thus, = old information (such as that from Dead White European Males) should be archived via "tar" and = "feather".=20 The "more" command reflects the materialistic philosophy of the Reagan = era. System VI uses the environmentally preferable "less" command. The biodegradable "KleeNeX" displaces the environmentally unfriendly = "LaTeX".=20 Shell Commands: To avoid unpleasant, medieval connotations, the "kill" command has been = renamed "euthanise."=20 The "nice" command was historically used by privileged users to give = themselves priority over unprivileged ones, by telling them to be "nice". In System VI, the "sue" = command is used by unprivileged users to get for themselves the rights enjoyed by = privileged ones.=20 "history" has been completely rewritten, and is now called "herstory." = "quota" can now specify minimum as well as maximum usage, and will be strictly enforced.=20 The "abort()" function is now called "choice()."=20 Terminology: For now on, "rich text" will be more accurately referred to as = "exploitive capitalist text".=20 The term "daemons" is a Judeo-Christian pejorative. Such processes will = now be known as "spiritual guides."=20 There will no longer be an invidious distinction between "dumb" and = "smart" terminals. All terminals are equally valuable.=20 Traditionally, "normal video" (as opposed to "reverse video") was white = on black. This implicitly condoned European colonialism, particularly with respect to people of = African descent. UNIX System VI now uses "regressive video" to refer to white on black, while = "progressive video" can be any color at all over a white background.=20 For far too long, power has been concentrated in the hands of "root" and = his "wheel" oligarchy. We have instituted a dictatorship of the users. All system administration = functions will be handled by the People's Committee for Democratically Organizing the System = (PC-DOS). No longer will it be permissible for files and processes to be "owned" by users. All files = and processes will own themselves, and decide how (or whether) to respond to requests from = users.=20 The X Window System will henceforth be known as the NC-17 Window System. = And finally, UNIX itself will be renamed "PC" - for Procreatively = Challenged.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF172A.804B5870-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 15 19:30:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173A814BDE for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 19:30:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18184 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:30:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:30:08 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199910160230.MAA18184@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 15 22:11:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from id1.texhoma.net (id1.texhoma.net [38.195.236.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1505114E74 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:11:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lupus@texhoma.net) Received: from midian (texsipe74.texhoma.net [38.193.10.75]) by id1.texhoma.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA79800 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:21:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 23:57:51 -0500 Message-ID: <01BF1769.16F93920.lupus@texhoma.net> From: Lupus Reply-To: "lupus@texhoma.net" To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: dead link Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 23:57:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following link http://www2.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/ppp.html appears to be dead however I did find the article at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/ppp.html Thanks from one of the Mi$illusioned. Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 15 22:22:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from id1.texhoma.net (id1.texhoma.net [38.195.236.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5450B150F2 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:22:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lupus@texhoma.net) Received: from midian (texsipe74.texhoma.net [38.193.10.75]) by id1.texhoma.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA80347 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:32:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:09:08 -0500 Message-ID: <01BF176A.AA8246E0.lupus@texhoma.net> From: Lupus Reply-To: "lupus@texhoma.net" To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: FW: dead link Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:08:55 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: Lupus [SMTP:lupus@texhoma.net] Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 11:58 PM To: 'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org' Subject: dead link The following link http://www2.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/ppp.html appears to be dead however I did find the article at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ppp/ppp.html Cancel that I just checked that link and it is gone too Thanks from one of the Mi$illusioned. Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 16 0:34:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bebox.corpcomm.net (bebox.corpcomm.net [205.198.8.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA7914A09 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Peter_Schultz@ndsu.nodak.edu) Received: from ndsu.nodak.edu (localhost.corpcomm.net [127.0.0.1]) by bebox.corpcomm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00575 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 02:33:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Peter_Schultz@ndsu.nodak.edu) Message-ID: <38082A64.E761C539@ndsu.nodak.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 02:33:56 -0500 From: Peter Schultz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: newbie needs help with Networking setup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying to set up a LAN in my apartment using FreeBSD as the router/firewall. I'm not sure what info to provide so that you are able to help me, but here's some basic outputs. Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default dsl2 UGSc 14 3679 tl0 localhost localhost UH 0 50 lo0 192.168 link#2 UC 0 0 ep0 192.168.0.1 0:a0:24:13:4d:9b UHLW 0 3 lo0 205.198.8 link#1 UC 0 0 tl0 dsl2 0:10:5a:5e:62:5c UHLW 11 0 tl0 1143 bebox 0:80:5f:21:cf:f8 UHLW 0 129 lo0 dhcp155 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 0 1 tl0 tl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 205.198.8.60 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 205.198.8.255 ether 00:80:5f:21:cf:f8 media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP ) supported media: 10baseT/UTP autoselect 10base5/AUI 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 ether 00:a0:24:13:4d:9b tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 Thanks, Pete... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 16 1:26:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.pond.net (guppy.pond.net [205.240.25.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079EC150F2 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:26:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gryph@mindless.com) Received: from mindless.com (snapuser2-89.pacificcrest.net [216.36.34.89]) by guppy.pond.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10540; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <380836BB.BFEA6ADE@mindless.com> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 01:26:35 -0700 From: "D.M.P." Organization: dmp@aracnet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Mactaggart Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Real (macho-type) men (apropos 'The complete FreeBSD') References: <003301bf174c$0812b3e0$a600a8c0@visualedge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Martin Mactaggart wrote: > PoliticallyCorrectUNIX.txt As an American White Male, I take offense at System VI's obvious anti-white attitude. For this reason System VI can not rightly be called The Politically Correct Unix. You have caused me considerable emotion suffering--I will see you in court. -- "Nothing is more noble, nothing more venerable than fidelity. Truth and faithfulness are the most sacred excellences and endowments of the human mind." -- Cicero To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 16 8:50:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dbasecentral.com (prod1.dbasecentral.com [205.243.161.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FBC14CA3 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 08:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@kyler.com) Received: from cheat (adsl-151-200-15-77.bellatlantic.net [151.200.15.77]) by dbasecentral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA23144 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:48:10 -0500 From: "Ken Kyler" To: Subject: Installing and using ADSL Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:50:50 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bf17ee$385e4260$4d0fc897@kylernet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Background: I'm new to both Unix and FreeBSD. I have an old Dell Pentium 200 w/ 96M RAM that I want to setup as a FreeBSD box. I have two other computers that I want to connect to the Internet by going through the FreeBSD box. One runs Windoz NT (my development box) and the other runs Windoz 98 (my test and trash box) The FreeBSD box has 2 NICs. One NIC will connect to my ADSL line and the other to my local hub. I want to use the FreeBSD box as a firewall to protect my home network. I also want to install Apache, mySQL, PHP, and JApache on it to do local testing/development. I've been reading the FAQs, FreeBSDDiary and any other source of information and haven't been able to solve my problems. Questions and Problems: I started out by just trying to install FreeBSD without doing anything else. I managed to get it to install and boot okay. However I have several initial questions and a problem. I'm sure I'll have more after I get past the following. Q1: Is it necessary to give my local/home network a domain name or should I leave the domain name blank when configuring the NICs? Q2: Should both NICs have the same host name? Q3: How should the NIC connected to the local network be configured? I am planning on using IP 10.0.0.1 P1: I can ping my ISP's gateway but I can't ping beyond that. It returns a message stating it can't resolve the domain. TIA! Ken Kyler ken@kyler.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 16 18:27: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp0.innovation.com (ns1.innovation.com [209.249.4.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A24414C90 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallup@metro.net) Received: from metro.net (ig033.4.dial.innovation.com [209.249.4.33]) by smtp0.innovation.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA20517 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:21:20 -0700 Message-ID: <380925C3.812C1F30@metro.net> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:26:28 -0700 From: Gallup X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: installation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had a question about installing FreeBsd. During installation, FreeBSD is unable to find my hard drive. Can someone offer me some insight to correct this problem? thanx, -Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 16 18:47: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from trill.hh.se (trill.hh.se [194.47.5.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E6214E2E for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:46:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from u98jobj@stud.hh.se) Received: from gs177 (klart@gs177.gsten.hh.se [194.47.16.177]) by trill.hh.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA16677; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 03:43:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000701bf1841$a54ea9c0$b1102fc2@gsten.hh.se> From: =?iso-8859-1?B?Sm9lbCBCavZyaw==?= To: "Gallup" Cc: References: <380925C3.812C1F30@metro.net> Subject: RE: installation Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 03:48:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I had a question about installing FreeBsd. During installation, = FreeBSD > is unable to find my hard drive. Can someone offer me some insight to > correct this problem? > thanx, > -Greg >=20 I think you have to give some more info. Is it a SCSI or an IDE drive? If it's an IDE drive: Is the jumpers set correctly? Does it show up correctly in your BIOS? If it's SCSI drive you'll have to supply the make of the drive as well = as the controllercard. good luck Joel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 16 22: 4:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web109.yahoomail.com (web109.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F385414D94 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:04:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cometman_98@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19991017050502.3750.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com> Received: from [138.210.147.173] by web109.yahoomail.com; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:05:02 PDT Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:05:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Cometman Subject: Re: Real (macho-type) men (apropos 'The complete FreeBSD') To: Martin Mactaggart , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Martin Mactaggart wrote: > Real men don't need or read instructions. > > Why do you think they call them 'man' pages? > > Politically Correct UNIX > also, "commands" will now be called "requests" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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