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WordPerfect for linux will run fine in FreeBSD, under linux emulation.

If this is other *nix based corel software, I was unaware of it.

-Chris

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> Subject:	Corel software
> 
> I want to start with a non MS OS. In the alphabetical list of software
> vendors Corel corp. was not included. Is it not possible to run their not
> Windows based software under FreeBSD?
> 
> Regards Wiebe van der Worp
> 
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Just because your modem is comm2 in windows doesn't me that it's the same in
freebsd.

What does it say on the screen at bootup about "sioX" where X is a number.
For many of us, the modem is detected as sio4 and so would be /dev/cuaa4 as
far as ppp is concerned.

-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai [SMTP:asmodai@wxs.nl]
> Sent:	Saturday, November 13, 1999 7:56 AM
> To:	Adrian Parker
> Cc:	questions@freebsd.org
> Subject:	Re: No modem?
> 
> -On [19991110 00:01], Adrian Parker (jedi@brockville.com) wrote:
> >Perhaps someone can help me.
> 
> I can.  I forwarded it from -doc to -questions where it belonged in the
> first place.
> 
> >I recently went through the FreeBSD install, or tried.  Everything
> >worked ok accept the install via FTP.  It doesn't seem to detect my
> >modem.  It's a USR 56.6 V90 (ISA) running on comm port 2.  This modem
> >does not seem to be detected while starting the install process (when
> >it checks for PnP, PCI, and ISA devices).  When it tries to gather the
> >packages for installing the system, it doesn't dial.  I use the dial
> >command, as request, in the 3rd Virtual Console.  Soon after it returns
> >that the dialup is dead.
> 
> Tried specifying debug mode in options and check vty2 why it flunks?
> 
> >I had it dial my second phone line to verify that the modem wasn't
> dialing
> >at all.  I was correct, it wasn't dialing.
> >
> >What could be wrong?  I know my modem is on Comm 2.  And I know it works
> >because I'm using it now in Win98 (it also works just fine in Linux).  Is
> >there any way to solve this?  I don't want to image copy everything to
> >floppy and install that way, just so that I can boot the OS and fight
> with
> >the modem settings (downloading everything is a pain on dialup).
> 
> The notion that something works on Windows 98 or Linux is not a
> guarantee that it works under FreeBSD.  It might, then again it might
> not.
> 
> -- 
> Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai                  asmodai(at)wxs.nl
> The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai>
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Well....

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Juha Saarinen [SMTP:juha_saarinen@email.msn.com]
> Sent:	Saturday, November 13, 1999 6:48 PM
> To:	freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG
> Subject:	Ports and upgrading
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> OK, I've survived the installation and kernel recompile thing, and
> now have FreeBSD 3.3-Release running on my main server here :-). 
> 
> I've also discovered cvsup to update the ports collection (might make
> a cron job out of that actually). However... if I have installed say
> Samba 2.0.5a (which I have) and would like to upgrade that to 2.0.6,
> what would be the best procedure? Just to hack the Makefile to make
> it point to 2.0.6 and make the new version, or should I do make
> deinstall first?
> 
	Wait for the port to be updated.  It's not just a matter of hacking
make files, there are patches associated as well as other settings.

	If you're impatient.  Download the source code and compile it
yourself, bypassing the ports collection all together.  Although, an update
to something like samba should make it into the collection fairly quickly.

	As for replacing the old one.  The commonly accepted way of doing
this is the following.
	1. make all, the new port, don't install.  So you know it compiles.
	2. Remove the old port with pkg_delete.
	3. make install, the new port.
	4. (Optional) make clean.

> I'd also like to install KDE 1.1.2 somehow, but the port is only
> 1.1.1. KDE is split into heaps of different files, so I'm wondering
> where to start here. (Apologies if this is apparent by reading the
> Makefile or something.)
> 
	Now I know you haven't updated your ports with cvsup, either that or
you haven't looked since updating.  Because KDE 1.1.2 has been in there for
a while.

> Wish I had made /usr bigger or put /usr/ports onto a separate
> partition... 87% full already.
> 
	Tell me about it.  If it's a problem symlink /usr/ports/disfiles to
a dir on a larger partition.  Also, make sure you are doing a make clean
after each port is installed.

> Regards,
> 
> - -- Juha
> 
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Hiya Christopher,

> 	Wait for the port to be updated.  It's not just a matter of hacking
> make files, there are patches associated as well as other settings.

Yep... noticed that. %-}

> 	If you're impatient.  Download the source code and compile it
> yourself, bypassing the ports collection all together.  Although,
> an update
> to something like samba should make it into the collection fairly quickly.
>
> 	As for replacing the old one.  The commonly accepted way of doing
> this is the following.
> 	1. make all, the new port, don't install.  So you know it compiles.
> 	2. Remove the old port with pkg_delete.
> 	3. make install, the new port.
> 	4. (Optional) make clean.

I got Samba 2.0.6 and compiled it and installed it. Works fine, with a bit
of hacking of the paths. Samba 2.0.5a doesn't get along with FreeBSD very
well. 2.0.6 has a workaround for the MSG_WAIT bug (?)which lead to weirdness
such as full speed when copying from the Samba server, but only a tenth when
copying to it.

> 	Now I know you haven't updated your ports with cvsup, either that or
> you haven't looked since updating.  Because KDE 1.1.2 has been in
> there for
> a while.

I have, I promise. Mind you, I've been using cvsup.au.freebsd.org. Mebbe not
a recent tree? Or am I missing something again? I'm using the ports-supfile
in the /usr/share/examples/cvsup directory.

> 	Tell me about it.  If it's a problem symlink /usr/ports/disfiles to
> a dir on a larger partition.  Also, make sure you are doing a make clean
> after each port is installed.

Yep... that's good advice. /home is almost empty so it'll have to take a few
files I reckon.


Cheers,

-- Juha




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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Juha Saarinen [SMTP:juha_saarinen@email.msn.com]
> Sent:	Sunday, November 14, 1999 3:56 AM
> To:	Christopher Michaels; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG
> Subject:	RE: Ports and upgrading
> 
> Hiya Christopher,
> 
> > 	Wait for the port to be updated.  It's not just a matter of hacking
> > make files, there are patches associated as well as other settings.
> 
> Yep... noticed that. %-}
> 
> > 	If you're impatient.  Download the source code and compile it
> > yourself, bypassing the ports collection all together.  Although,
> > an update
> > to something like samba should make it into the collection fairly
> quickly.
> >
> > 	As for replacing the old one.  The commonly accepted way of doing
> > this is the following.
> > 	1. make all, the new port, don't install.  So you know it compiles.
> > 	2. Remove the old port with pkg_delete.
> > 	3. make install, the new port.
> > 	4. (Optional) make clean.
> 
> I got Samba 2.0.6 and compiled it and installed it. Works fine, with a bit
> of hacking of the paths. Samba 2.0.5a doesn't get along with FreeBSD very
> well. 2.0.6 has a workaround for the MSG_WAIT bug (?)which lead to
> weirdness
> such as full speed when copying from the Samba server, but only a tenth
> when
> copying to it.
> 
	This was already addressed in one of the patches applied to the
2.0.5a version in the ports.  But I am well aware of the bug as I had to
patch it on my system before it made it's way into the ported version.

	I wasn't aware there was a 2.0.6 to be honest.  :)  Maybe they found
a better fix for it.

> > 	Now I know you haven't updated your ports with cvsup, either that or
> > you haven't looked since updating.  Because KDE 1.1.2 has been in
> > there for
> > a while.
> 
> I have, I promise. Mind you, I've been using cvsup.au.freebsd.org. Mebbe
> not
> a recent tree? Or am I missing something again? I'm using the
> ports-supfile
> in the /usr/share/examples/cvsup directory.
> 
	That should be fine.. you could try synching with the main site just
to see if there is a difference.

> > 	Tell me about it.  If it's a problem symlink /usr/ports/disfiles to
> > a dir on a larger partition.  Also, make sure you are doing a make clean
> > after each port is installed.
> 
> Yep... that's good advice. /home is almost empty so it'll have to take a
> few
> files I reckon.
> 
	Sounds good to me, that's what I did.

> Cheers,
> 
> -- Juha
> 


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Well, 2 things.
1. Please cc: replies to the list.  Because I haven't the slightest idea
where to start on that problem.
2. You have the option of downloading the distribution(s) to a dos partition
and installing from there if you so choose.

As far as I know there aren't THAT many problems with the ftp/modem install.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	jedi [SMTP:jedi@brockville.com]
> Sent:	Sunday, November 14, 1999 4:13 AM
> To:	Christopher Michaels
> Subject:	Re: No modem?
> 
> But onboard I only have 2 com ports.  No matter I finally got it to dial.
> It was comm2.  Nothing changed, just retried the install and it worked.
> However, now it either returns "Unacceptable Address <ip>", <ip> being the
> dynamic IP my ISP assigns me when I dial up, or something about too many
> IPCP NAPs (or NATs) sent.
> 
> BSD should really do more like Debian (Linux).  You download about 10mb of
> stuff to a DOS partition, reboot straight into DOS, then run the given
> batch
> file.  Install from the DOS partition, and gives you everything you need
> to
> run the OS (including dialup scripts and support).
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
> To: Adrian Parker <jedi@brockville.com>
> Cc: <questions@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 3:33 AM
> Subject: RE: No modem?
> 
> 
> > Just because your modem is comm2 in windows doesn't me that it's the
> same
> in
> > freebsd.
> >
> > What does it say on the screen at bootup about "sioX" where X is a
> number.
> > For many of us, the modem is detected as sio4 and so would be /dev/cuaa4
> as
> > far as ppp is concerned.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai [SMTP:asmodai@wxs.nl]
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 7:56 AM
> > > To: Adrian Parker
> > > Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: Re: No modem?
> > >
> > > -On [19991110 00:01], Adrian Parker (jedi@brockville.com) wrote:
> > > >Perhaps someone can help me.
> > >
> > > I can.  I forwarded it from -doc to -questions where it belonged in
> the
> > > first place.
> > >
> > > >I recently went through the FreeBSD install, or tried.  Everything
> > > >worked ok accept the install via FTP.  It doesn't seem to detect my
> > > >modem.  It's a USR 56.6 V90 (ISA) running on comm port 2.  This modem
> > > >does not seem to be detected while starting the install process (when
> > > >it checks for PnP, PCI, and ISA devices).  When it tries to gather
> the
> > > >packages for installing the system, it doesn't dial.  I use the dial
> > > >command, as request, in the 3rd Virtual Console.  Soon after it
> returns
> > > >that the dialup is dead.
> > >
> > > Tried specifying debug mode in options and check vty2 why it flunks?
> > >
> > > >I had it dial my second phone line to verify that the modem wasn't
> > > dialing
> > > >at all.  I was correct, it wasn't dialing.
> > > >
> > > >What could be wrong?  I know my modem is on Comm 2.  And I know it
> works
> > > >because I'm using it now in Win98 (it also works just fine in Linux).
> Is
> > > >there any way to solve this?  I don't want to image copy everything
> to
> > > >floppy and install that way, just so that I can boot the OS and fight
> > > with
> > > >the modem settings (downloading everything is a pain on dialup).
> > >
> > > The notion that something works on Windows 98 or Linux is not a
> > > guarantee that it works under FreeBSD.  It might, then again it might
> > > not.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai
> asmodai(at)wxs.nl
> > > The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project
> <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai>
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> best
> > > Embrace Love, be godlike...
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> > But onboard I only have 2 com ports.  No matter I finally got it to
dial.
> > It was comm2.  Nothing changed, just retried the install and it worked.
> > However, now it either returns "Unacceptable Address <ip>", <ip> being
the
> > dynamic IP my ISP assigns me when I dial up, or something about too many
> > IPCP NAPs (or NATs) sent.
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> >
> > > Just because your modem is comm2 in windows doesn't me that it's the
> > same in freebsd.
> > >
> > > What does it say on the screen at bootup about "sioX" where X is a
> > number.
> > > For many of us, the modem is detected as sio4 and so would be
/dev/cuaa4
> > as
> > > far as ppp is concerned.
> > >
> > > -Chris
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai [SMTP:asmodai@wxs.nl]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 7:56 AM
> > > > To: Adrian Parker
> > > > Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> > > > Subject: Re: No modem?
> > > >
> > > > -On [19991110 00:01], Adrian Parker (jedi@brockville.com) wrote:
> > > > >Perhaps someone can help me.
> > > >
> > > > I can.  I forwarded it from -doc to -questions where it belonged in
> > the
> > > > first place.
> > > >
> > > > >I recently went through the FreeBSD install, or tried.  Everything
> > > > >worked ok accept the install via FTP.  It doesn't seem to detect my
> > > > >modem.  It's a USR 56.6 V90 (ISA) running on comm port 2.  This
modem
> > > > >does not seem to be detected while starting the install process
(when
> > > > >it checks for PnP, PCI, and ISA devices).  When it tries to gather
> > the
> > > > >packages for installing the system, it doesn't dial.  I use the
dial
> > > > >command, as request, in the 3rd Virtual Console.  Soon after it
> > returns
> > > > >that the dialup is dead.
> > > >
> > > > Tried specifying debug mode in options and check vty2 why it flunks?
> > > >
> > > > >I had it dial my second phone line to verify that the modem wasn't
> > > > dialing
> > > > >at all.  I was correct, it wasn't dialing.
> > > > >
> > > > >What could be wrong?  I know my modem is on Comm 2.  And I know it
> > works
> > > > >because I'm using it now in Win98 (it also works just fine in
Linux).
> > Is
> > > > >there any way to solve this?  I don't want to image copy everything
> > to
> > > > >floppy and install that way, just so that I can boot the OS and
fight
> > > > with
> > > > >the modem settings (downloading everything is a pain on dialup).
> > > >
> > > > The notion that something works on Windows 98 or Linux is not a
> > > > guarantee that it works under FreeBSD.  It might, then again it
might
> > > > not



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I have named running on a local server with private subnet 192.168.120

DNS has been working fine for over a month now, but recently I have
started getting error messages ('cannot connect to host') when _first_
connecting to the internet and when first accessing mail accounts at our
ISP. A 2nd try always succeeds in resolving a name to IP address.

I had a single entry in resolv.conf :
    domain at.home

but removed this because I kept seeing entries such as
'home.netscape.com.at.home' in the named logs. All seemed well for about
a week. Now I see 'at.home' appended occasionally to DNS lookups outside
the local subnet. Testing the DNS with nslookup works fine every time
for both local(private) and internet-wide names and addresses.

I am wondering if the problem lies with resolv.conf?

I have had various entries in there at one time or another. I deleted
the DNS entries (forwarders) for our ISP some time ago because it seemed
to cause numerous spontaneous dialups. After deleting these entries the
dialups ceased.

Now that I have deleted the 'domain' entry, resolv.conf is empty.

So just what should go in there?

Regards,

Ric


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Well the good news to the beginning I managed cvsup to get running
(it can resolve IP -addresses now).
What I have made (probably too quikly):I upgraded my ports tree(now it has
kde java irc entries and everything lokks great).
What I failed to make:I surely would to upgrade my software using
following pattern:
make deinstall apsfilter 5.0.1
make install   apsfilter 5.1.3
quick and painless method
but old Makefiles were erased as well as old work directories
so I got something like "can not make deinstall port is not installed"
I deleted some things manually and wonder now whether I made it clean or
not(i need no to wonder based on my small experiences it is save bet
to say no it is not clean :) )
The questions are:
Have I made something wrong?( or not so as it was expected)
What is the standard procedure of doing upgrade after cvsuping ports-tree?
Do you guess that some of hard recoverable errors have happened due to my
rather naive approach to upgrading with cvsup?
What about old MAkefiles and work direcotries?

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Marc Wandschneider writes:
>	how good is the -a switch on the dump command?
>
>	I've got a 12/24GB Sony 4mm SCSI DAT drive, and was wondering if
>I had to enter all the density/length commands, or if the dump command
>would figure it out on it's own.  Under Linux, we had no such luck, but
>my recollection is that the various *BSD operating systems are much
>better at it.
>
>	Any suggestions?  Is there any good place to find out all the
>parameters for a tape drive, should they be required.  I, unfortunately,
>managed to misplace all the info for my current drive.
>

I have the same tape drive and always use the -a switch with it. It's
always worked quite well for me. I've also used it with an older DAT
drive (lower capacity) and it works there too.

---
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Hi

I was using xferstats with relatively good results until about 2 months
ago when it broke.

Does anyone know of anything similar that'll give me .html output, showing
as many stats?

Regards

--Rob

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Hi
  I was playing around with Slackware and Redhat before I switch over to 
FreeBSD. I remember that by amending a file in Linux, the shell will show 
all directories, files and executables in different colours. Is it possible 
to do so in FreeBSD?

Regards
Just another one of those Newbies

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Thus spake Wiebe van der Worp (isn@worldonline.nl):

> I want to start with a non MS OS. In the alphabetical list of software ve=
ndors Corel corp. was not included. Is it not possible to run their not Win=
dows based software under FreeBSD?

Yes, you can, using the linux-emulation.

The older versions of Corel Wordperfect, for example, (version 8)
worked very fine for me.

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Not by default.  You'll need to install a color ls program from the ports.
I belive there are at least 2.  colorls and gnuls.

Take a look in /usr/ports/misc

-Chris

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> 
> Hi
>   I was playing around with Slackware and Redhat before I switch over to 
> FreeBSD. I remember that by amending a file in Linux, the shell will show 
> all directories, files and executables in different colours. Is it
> possible 
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Thus spake Tonysux =A0 (tonysux999@hotmail.com):

> Ok, i installed FreeBSD today, and forgot to install the boot manager. I =
figure, i can fix it by reinstalling, but i don't want reinstall because it=
 would take a long time again. So, how would I install the boot manager by =
using a sysinstall or a fixit disk without reinstalling?  My book doesn't h=
elp and the two IRC EFnet channels arn't helping either.=20

Question is, what do you want?

What does boot _now_?

Nothing? Windows? Linux?

If Nothing, take the FreeBSD Fixit floppy and set the
FreeBSD-partition as active, using fdisk. (from Sysinstall)

If you have Windows _and_ FreeBSD and you want to decide on bootup,
what you'd like to boot, you should take a look at the OSBS
Bootmanager (that you have to install from DOS:)
ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.4.1/i386/installation/misc/osbsbet=
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It is REALLY nice.

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softwares? and one mroe thing, does FreeBSD work with Windows NT?

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On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 08:40:23PM +1300, Juha Saarinen wrote:
> I realise I'm probably running out of my questions quota here, but... I
> really would like to run KDE 1.1.2 on my FreeBSD box. The port is only for
> 1.1.1... hints and tips on how to put KDE 1.1.2 anyone?

Get the latest tarballs for kde11 from ftp.freebsd.org! They are 1.1.2

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I think you should probably brush up on pc's a bit more.

ISA, EISA, VESA, and PCI are all different types of expansion buses on the
PC.  You're computer needs to contain at least one of these to be able to
use FreeBSD.  And, for the most part, unless you are running a MAC you
should have one.  Try looking up those terms on www.pcwebopedia.com, it's a
pretty useful site.

As for "does FreeBSD work with Windows NT?".  That depends on what  you mean
by that question.

"Will FreeBSD run under Windows NT" - No.
"Will FreeBSD co-exist on systems with FreeBSD" - Yes.
"Can FreeBSD read NTFS partitions." - Yes.

Hope this answers some of your basic questions.

-Chris

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> hey, im knew to having a server, so i have a question that i would like to
> ask you
> you say that my cpu needs ISA, EISA, VESA, or PCI bus. what are they?
> softwares? and one mroe thing, does FreeBSD work with Windows NT?


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Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> You need to read the handbook about CVSup, and from there you can start
> upgrading easily.  I'm a newbie, and it's easy !  ;-)
> Since you have 3.3, the upgrade shouldn't take long.

It was so easy! My main concern was getting involved with a really big
download - and the cost of that.
Even make world worked, which is fortunate with my bad luck ;)
FreeBSD just keeps on making me smile.

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I set up 3.3-R on my Asus P2B-DS system that is configured as follows:

1 4GB IDE
1 CDrom IDE
1 4,5 SCSI wide (onboard scsi)
1 CD-R SCSI (pci scsi controller)
128MB ram

The installation process went ok, but when I started for the first time
I got error that told me:

Changeing root to da1s1a
can't find root device

Bootloader states 1:da(1,a)

I have changes at the bootloader prompt to 1:da(0,a) kernel

Then it works.

What is wrong?

TIA
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 Anyone successfully compiled ppp-2.3.10 under 3.3-Stable ?
 I get an error messages unblanced #endif in sys-bsd.c if I removed
 this it compiles and works except the wtmp does not log whois on the
 system under pppd on dialups. 
 Any help would be appreciated. 
 
 

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would someone also mail me I am not on list .

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 Anyone successfully compiled ppp-2.3.10 under 3.3-Stable ?
 I get an error messages unblanced #endif in sys-bsd.c if I removed
 this it compiles and works except the wtmp does not log whois on the
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Also is this the correct group to be asking this question in ?

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would someone also mail me I am not on list .

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 Anyone successfully compiled ppp-2.3.10 under 3.3-Stable ?
 I get an error messages unblanced #endif in sys-bsd.c if I removed
 this it compiles and works except the wtmp does not log whois on the
 system under pppd on dialups. 
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How would I join the list ? sorry so many questions I am new at this
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Hello there;

lately, whenever I reboot my system, I get a 

disk error 0x1
No /boot/loader

error.  the files are there, and I have reinstalled a couple of times with
(make buildworld/make installworld ... disklabel -B).

How can I fix the loader otherwise ?

Running the latest -current... Sytem was create with 4.0-CURRENT long time ago.


thanks.


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On Sun 1999-11-14 (11:00), Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> Well the good news to the beginning I managed cvsup to get running
> (it can resolve IP -addresses now).
> What I have made (probably too quikly):I upgraded my ports tree(now it has
> kde java irc entries and everything lokks great).
> What I failed to make:I surely would to upgrade my software using
> following pattern:
> make deinstall apsfilter 5.0.1
> make install   apsfilter 5.1.3

have a look at pkg_info, pkg_add , and pkg_delete 

Pkg_delete, to remove an old version of the package. then do your normal
ports install.

pkg_info gives you nice lisitngs of whats currently installed


Barry

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Marc Wandschneider <MarcW@Lanfear.com> wrote:

> 	how good is the -a switch on the dump command?

Very good. It's pretty much required for painless backups if you
want to put several archives on a single tape or have a drive with
compression.

> 	I've got a 12/24GB Sony 4mm SCSI DAT drive, and was wondering if
> I had to enter all the density/length commands,

That's pretty futile. If you end up having to specify the capacity
of the tape, do yourself a favor and use blocks ("-B") rather than
the arcane density/length options.

> or if the dump command would figure it out on it's own.

That's actually not a question of dump figuring it out but rather
of the tape driver properly returning a short write. sa(4) apparently
does for my Wangtek 51000HT (QIC-1000).

> Under Linux, we had no such luck,

Until rather recently, the Linux port of dump didn't support "-a"
at all. Version 0.4b9 certainly does. I don't know whether the
Linux tape driver is up to it, but using rmt on a remote host, "-a"
works.

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Richard Oyh <richardoyh@hotmail.com> wrote:

>   I was playing around with Slackware and Redhat before I switch over to 
> FreeBSD. I remember that by amending a file in Linux, the shell will show 
> all directories, files and executables in different colours.

Hideous.

> Is it possible to do so in FreeBSD?

By installing the colorls port (/usr/ports/misc/colorls).

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Yes, see www.jp.freebsd.org/PAO -> Survey and/or the pccard.conf
file. It work's just fine.

In fact DE-660* is supported, but for any non L card (i.e. CT, CD, TE,..)
you might bave to set the right connector with (-)link0.

Dw

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, David Kane-Parry wrote:

> Is the D-Link DE-660CT PCMCIA ethernet adapter supported in 3.3-RELEASE?
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> - d.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Arturo Chen T. <artchen@wqn.net.pa>
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Hi Im having right now this problem

I had my users mail files on
/var/mail
and my partition was getting full. I decided to move it to
/usr/mail
which has lots of space. I created a symlink from /var/mail
pointing to /usr/mail, now when i try to retrive my mail, I
get a message saying

cant open temporary file, do you own it?

Can someone help me with this?
Arturo Chen T.
Director de Operaciones Técnicas
World Quest Networks Panamá
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> 
> How would I join the list ? sorry so many questions I am new at this
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> thanks again

Read the FreeBSD Handbook, section 27 (including the list charter):

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On Sun, 14 Nov 1982, Neo wrote:

> hey, im knew to having a server, so i have a question that i would like to ask you
> you say that my cpu needs ISA, EISA, VESA, or PCI bus. what are they? softwares? 

ISA etc refers to the type of slots you have in the computer that you can
put cards into  (actually its a bit more involved than that but this is
good enough)

>and one mroe thing, does FreeBSD work with Windows NT?
> 
In what way?



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    Hi,
            I finally recompiled my kernel and added (vpo) for my zip
drive and it showed up then I recieved a error going like this "
error/timeout /5". I also tried to access it buy using all the known
scissi devices on my system and all I get is device not configured. So I
tried to remake these devices and recieved bad disk error form them all;
so I tried to make them all and I still got the same errors. Can someone
help me because all my graphics and poems are locked up on these disks.
Oh yeah they are msdos formatted. Thanks for all your help.
                                        CHAD



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Using ksh is there a way I can script my .profile to sence my term
type?  I need to have vt100 functionality when I telnet into the box
and when I login using the console, I need that vt100 to go away (it
severly horks the console when i use vt100).

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	I have a small home network with several FreeBSD machines on it. Most
	are at 3.3, but the gateway machine is still at 2.8.

	Lately I have started noticing the follwing errors in the syslog of the
	2.8 machine:

	Nov 14 10:07:54 koala.fas.com rwhod[135]: whod.brown: Permission denied

	koala is the 2.8 achine, and brown is a 3.3 machine. i am also geting
	similar error messages relating to some non FreeBSD machines on the
	network.

	I can rlogin from koala to brown & vice versa. 

	So what is this message trying to tell me? Which machine is denying
	which permission? And why? How do I correct this?

	One other data point is that if I do an ruptime on koala, it does not
	report statistics for brown.


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Sun Nov 14  8:38:26 1999
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On this thread - does Qpopper allow one to send using authenticated
POP3?  My shell provider - mcs.net shut off SMTP relaying quite some
time ago.  I was told by one of the head gurus to switch my email
client to POP3 for sending (as MCS is not my internet provider).  This
has worked great as it only accepts mail from me if I put my username
and password in (apparently, this feature is not well known, because
even the tech support guys at mcs.net argued with me for 10 minutes (on
my dime) that you cannot send with POP3 - I said "I've been doing it
for months").


On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:44:37 -0600 (CST), Alex Charalabidis wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Marc Wandschneider wrote:
>
>> 	Hope this isn't too blatant an FAQ, but I will be setting up
>> SendMail on my FreeBSD machine in the near future, and was wondering if
>> Sendmail supports POP right out of the box, or if I have to install some
>> sort of POP3 software?
>> 
>You need a pop3 server. There are several choices. Qpopper, the most
>common, will do just fine (/usr/ports/mail/popper/). Extra help and the
>latest beta if you prefer the bleeding edge of technology can be found at
>http://eudora.qualcomm.com/free/servers.html.
>
>> 	Anything else I'd want to know about setting up a mail server?
>> It'll be used by Windows clients using Outlook (Express).
>> 
>I have a lot of problems with sendmail, qpopper and MS Outlook clients
>and, guess what, all the problems can be traced back to broken outlook
>clients, clueless lusers or me messing with the servers... Everything else
>you need to know is probably in the book.
>
>-ac
>
>
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We have a 2.2.8 system which is in production, and is running out
of swap.  We see a lot of signal 11 kills with apache (the latest
stuff, too).    I wonder if FreeBSD can do swap files.   Much like
Solaris can... you use a command to create a special file, and
hand it off to swap.


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  I have the following situation. On my FreeBSD 3.2 RELEASE, I 
have installed leafnode+-2.6 from the ports and I've put the line

nntp    stream  tcp     nowait  news    /usr/local/sbin/leafnode

in inetd.conf. 
Then I wanted to restrict the access to a specific [host]. I have
tried putting the following lines into hosts.allow:

leafnode : [host IP] : allow
nntp : [host IP] : allow

but to no avail: [host] couldn't connect and tcpd (following the
instruction `twist /bin/echo "You are not welcome to use %d from
%h."` from hosts.allow) issued the message:
"You are not welcome to use d from [host]."
What I did next was putting the line

d : [host IP] : allow  
  
into hosts.allow and it worked! Can somebody explain what has 
happened and what is this "d" daemon? I'm completely confused.
Thanks,
 Kresimir


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Stan Brown wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > 	Nov 14 10:07:54 koala.fas.com rwhod[135]: whod.brown: Permission denied
 > [...]
 > 	One other data point is that if I do an ruptime on koala, it does not
 > 	report statistics for brown.

Both problems are caused by the same thing.

make sure that the directory /var/rwho and all files in it
are writable by user "daemon" or group "daemon" (because
rwhod runs as user and group "daemon").  It should be
something like this:

drwxrwxr-x   2 bin     daemon  512 Nov 11 18:02 .
drwxr-xr-x  18 root    wheel   512 Dec 18  1998 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 daemon  daemon  300 Nov 14 18:00 whod.dorifer
-rw-r--r--   1 daemon  daemon   84 Nov 11 23:26 whod.kartanin
-rw-r--r--   1 daemon  daemon   84 Nov 14 18:02 whod.tekener

The directopry is writable by group daemon, and the files all
belong to user daemon (and are writable by it).

Also, make sure that rwhod is really running as "daemon".
The following command will tell you:   ps -aux | grep rwho

Regards
   Oliver

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In list.freebsd-questions you wrote (14 Nov 1999 17:46:23 +0100):
 > We have a 2.2.8 system which is in production, and is running out
 > of swap.  We see a lot of signal 11 kills with apache (the latest
 > stuff, too).    I wonder if FreeBSD can do swap files.   Much like
 > Solaris can... you use a command to create a special file, and
 > hand it off to swap.

Yes.  You first use "dd if=/dev/zero ..." to create a file of
sufficient size somewhere, then use vnconfig to enable swapping
on it.  Please refer to "man vnconfig" for all the details.
Note that you must have "pseudo-device vn" in your kernel (see
LINT).  Also note that you cannot disable swapping on a file,
once you have enabled it (except by rebooting, of course).

Regards
   Oliver

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Hi Richard,

I'm sure you've read the resolv.conf (5) man page already. Anyway, the
effect of an empty resolv.conf file is:

  1.   Assume nameserver == 127.0.0.1  (localhost)
  2.   Extract 'domain' name from the gethostname (3) system call
  3.   'lookup' order is `bind file'

i.e. An equivalent resolv.conf file for you should be:

   nameserver 127.0.0.1
   domain  at.home
   lookup bind file

(My personal preference is to explicitly list the defaults in a config file.
 My resolv.conf file is pretty much as shown above (with different domain))

I don't know what your problem is exactly, but could you provide the
following information:

[stuff related to resolv.conf]

 1)  The output of the 'hostname' command
 2)  The contents of the /etc/hosts file

[stuff related to DNS]

 3)  The contents of the /etc/namedb/named.conf file

[random stuff: see hostname (7)]

 4)  The value of the environment variable HOSTALIASES  (if set)

[ppp (8) connection]

 5)  Do you have the 'enable dns' command in your ppp.conf file?
     (assuming you are using ppp)


If you'll allow me the indulgence of making gratuitous assumptions below,
I'll try and walk thru' what I think is part of the problem:

In your problem description, you stated that you removed the 'forwarders'
line from the named.conf file (I think this is a *BAD* thing to do). So
I'm not sure how *any* external name lookup can succeed, unless you have
the 'enable dns' command in your ppp.conf configuration file.

Now, (assuming no forwarders entry in named.conf), the lookup of the
name  home.netscape.com  will proceed as follows (I think):

   1.  Try the DNS system
    a)  Try the name  home.netscape.com
        ### FAIL  -- no forwarders active    <---- would initiate a dialout
    b)  Try the name  home.netscape.com.at.home
        ### FAIL  -- nonsense name
   2.  Try the /etc/hosts file
    a)  Try the name  home.netscape.com
        ### FAIL

So if you are not connected to the net, a lookup of the name home.netscape.com
should *fail* (can you confirm this?).  I think this explains the appearance
of the home.netscape.com.at.home  lookups as well.


A possible remedy to your problems would be add the line:

   lookup file bind

to your /etc/resolv.conf file, and to use the /etc/hosts file to list the
names and addresses of all your local (at.home) machines:

  192.168.120.1   machine1 machine1.at.home
  192.168.120.2   machine2 machine2.at.home
  etc...

This effectively by-passes the DNS system for local name lookups, and would
allow you to re-enable the forwarders entries in named.conf. By looking up
local names first, the spurious dialouts on name lookups should be stopped.

Final comments:

Note that the nslookup (8) command does *not* use the resolver libraries.
It talks directly to the named daemon.  A better test is to try the ping
command -- it uses the resolver routines, and hence, the searching order
done above.

Hope this helps. Please provide the information requested above, and we
can hopefully solve the problem completely,

Regards,

Mike Kennett
(mike@laurasia.com.au)

Richard asked:
> I had a single entry in resolv.conf :
>     domain at.home
> 
> but removed this because I kept seeing entries such as
> 'home.netscape.com.at.home' in the named logs. All seemed well for about
> a week. Now I see 'at.home' appended occasionally to DNS lookups outside
> the local subnet. Testing the DNS with nslookup works fine every time
> for both local(private) and internet-wide names and addresses.
> I have named running on a local server with private subnet 192.168.120
> 
> DNS has been working fine for over a month now, but recently I have
> started getting error messages ('cannot connect to host') when _first_
> connecting to the internet and when first accessing mail accounts at our
> ISP. A 2nd try always succeeds in resolving a name to IP address.
> 
> I had a single entry in resolv.conf :
>     domain at.home
> 
> but removed this because I kept seeing entries such as
> 'home.netscape.com.at.home' in the named logs. All seemed well for about
> a week. Now I see 'at.home' appended occasionally to DNS lookups outside
> the local subnet. Testing the DNS with nslookup works fine every time
> for both local(private) and internet-wide names and addresses.
> 
> I am wondering if the problem lies with resolv.conf?
> 
> I have had various entries in there at one time or another. I deleted
> the DNS entries (forwarders) for our ISP some time ago because it seemed
> to cause numerous spontaneous dialups. After deleting these entries the
> dialups ceased.
> 
> Now that I have deleted the 'domain' entry, resolv.conf is empty.
> 
> So just what should go in there?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ric



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Hi,

Ariel Burbaickij wrote :
> 
> Well I have surely enjoyed this very vivd discussion about client to use
> but would rather be pleasured if this amount of energy could be spent on
> solving cvsup problem.Printing here or there cvsup is basic update
> mechanism.
> So once more
> Tried:cvsup ports-supfile
> Got :Cannot get IP adress of my own host -- is its hostname correct?
First of all, I'm reading this list for six months now and i think i've
never seen such a lack of education. Don't forget that everybody here
spends personal time to answer questions, this is not a commercial
hotline. I'm surprised that anybody still takes time to answer your
questions.

I think that the problem is that cvsup complains only in X mode and not
in shell mode. I have this problem but it doesn't bother me too much so
i haven't searched in the archives at this time.

> *my ISP uses dynamic adresses  and i could use ftp ssh irc and netscape so
> far
> Question:What is to do?
RTFM, Search the F.. archive, and if no applicable answer is found then
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Hi Tommy,

> Using ksh is there a way I can script my .profile to sence my term
> type?  I need to have vt100 functionality when I telnet into the box
> and when I login using the console, I need that vt100 to go away (it
> severly horks the console when i use vt100).

What about:

   TTY=`tty`
   case `basename $TTY` in
      tty[pqrs]*)  export TERM=vt100 ;;
   esac

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Forrest Aldrich wrote:

> We have a 2.2.8 system which is in production, and is running out
> of swap.  We see a lot of signal 11 kills with apache (the latest
> stuff, too).    I wonder if FreeBSD can do swap files.   Much like
> Solaris can... you use a command to create a special file, and
> hand it off to swap.

man vnconfig. I haven't tried this, but it looks like it can do what you
want (assuming it's not something new since 2.2.8).

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Stan Brown wrote:

> 	Lately I have started noticing the follwing errors in the syslog of the
> 	2.8 machine:
> 
> 	Nov 14 10:07:54 koala.fas.com rwhod[135]: whod.brown: Permission denied
> 
> 	koala is the 2.8 achine, and brown is a 3.3 machine. i am also geting
> 	similar error messages relating to some non FreeBSD machines on the
> 	network.
> 
> 	I can rlogin from koala to brown & vice versa. 
> 
> 	So what is this message trying to tell me? Which machine is denying
> 	which permission? And why? How do I correct this?
> 
> 	One other data point is that if I do an ruptime on koala, it does not
> 	report statistics for brown.

Check the permissions of the files under /var/rwho. Here's what I have, and
it works fine:

ben@strontium:~$ ls -la /var/rwho
total 5
drwxrwxr-x   2 root    daemon  512 Oct 16 02:30 ./
drwxr-xr-x  18 root    wheel   512 Oct 16 21:48 ../
-rw-r--r--   1 daemon  daemon   84 Nov 14 17:03 whod.magnesium
-rw-r--r--   1 daemon  daemon  108 Nov 14 17:03 whod.scientia
-rw-r--r--   1 daemon  daemon  156 Nov 14 17:05 whod.strontium

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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Crist J. Clark wrote:

> Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM wrote,
> > On this thread - does Qpopper allow one to send using authenticated
> > POP3?  My shell provider - mcs.net shut off SMTP relaying quite some
> > time ago.  I was told by one of the head gurus to switch my email
> > client to POP3 for sending (as MCS is not my internet provider).  This
> > has worked great as it only accepts mail from me if I put my username
> > and password in (apparently, this feature is not well known, because
> > even the tech support guys at mcs.net argued with me for 10 minutes (on
> > my dime) that you cannot send with POP3 - I said "I've been doing it
> > for months").
> 
> I guess you already heard this, but:
> 
> 	You cannot sent mail with POP3.
> 
> The guys on mcs.net are right. POP3 protocol has no standards for
> sending email.
> 
This is repeated in RFC 2449. It would also assume the MUA has the
capability of changing protocols or port numbers at will (which many do
not). Anyway, if I wanted my users to send mail through POP3, I wouldn't
be telling them to use an SMTP server like pretty much everyone else in
the world. Consider a mailserver with SMTP AUTH support (sendmail 8.10?)
rather than some oddball POP3 hack.

-ac


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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:27:10 -0500, Marc Tardif wrote:

>Which programs does freebsd.org use for its mailing list?
>- which mail server
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For starters you could look at the header for the list messages.

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The list I believe is majordomo since the list manager address is majordomo@freebsd.org

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Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM <tforrest@mcs.net> wrote:
> Using ksh is there a way I can script my .profile to sence my term
> type?

case $TERM in
  foo)  echo "Footronics, Inc., model BR-0K-3N" ;;
  bar)  echo "BAR Machines, model Mark 0" ;;
  *)    echo "unknown terminal type" ;;
esac

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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM wrote:

> Using ksh is there a way I can script my .profile to sence my term
> type?  I need to have vt100 functionality when I telnet into the box
> and when I login using the console, I need that vt100 to go away (it
> severly horks the console when i use vt100).


tset(1) is the normal way of doing this.  Read the man page.


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Okay, let me rephrase my question.  Does Qpopper support the POP3
extensions that allow me to send mail?  If it does not, which ones do? 
There have to be some out there as MCS uses one.  I've tried to figure
out which one they use (short of emailing postmaster) with no luck.

tnks.

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:05:23 -0600 (CST), Alex Charalabidis wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Crist J. Clark wrote:
>
>> Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM wrote,
>> > On this thread - does Qpopper allow one to send using authenticated
>> > POP3?  My shell provider - mcs.net shut off SMTP relaying quite some
>> > time ago.  I was told by one of the head gurus to switch my email
>> > client to POP3 for sending (as MCS is not my internet provider).  This
>> > has worked great as it only accepts mail from me if I put my username
>> > and password in (apparently, this feature is not well known, because
>> > even the tech support guys at mcs.net argued with me for 10 minutes (on
>> > my dime) that you cannot send with POP3 - I said "I've been doing it
>> > for months").
>> 
>> I guess you already heard this, but:
>> 
>> 	You cannot sent mail with POP3.
>> 
>> The guys on mcs.net are right. POP3 protocol has no standards for
>> sending email.
>> 
>This is repeated in RFC 2449. It would also assume the MUA has the
>capability of changing protocols or port numbers at will (which many do
>not). Anyway, if I wanted my users to send mail through POP3, I wouldn't
>be telling them to use an SMTP server like pretty much everyone else in
>the world. Consider a mailserver with SMTP AUTH support (sendmail 8.10?)
>rather than some oddball POP3 hack.
>
>-ac
>
>
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>==============================================================
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>
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Cucipop does support POP3, you can install it from the ports.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM <tforrest@mcs.net>
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> Okay, let me rephrase my question.  Does Qpopper support the POP3
> extensions that allow me to send mail?  If it does not, which ones do?
> There have to be some out there as MCS uses one.  I've tried to figure
> out which one they use (short of emailing postmaster) with no luck.
>
> tnks.
>
> On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:05:23 -0600 (CST), Alex Charalabidis wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> >
> >> Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM wrote,
> >> > On this thread - does Qpopper allow one to send using authenticated
> >> > POP3?  My shell provider - mcs.net shut off SMTP relaying quite some
> >> > time ago.  I was told by one of the head gurus to switch my email
> >> > client to POP3 for sending (as MCS is not my internet provider).
This
> >> > has worked great as it only accepts mail from me if I put my username
> >> > and password in (apparently, this feature is not well known, because
> >> > even the tech support guys at mcs.net argued with me for 10 minutes
(on
> >> > my dime) that you cannot send with POP3 - I said "I've been doing it
> >> > for months").
> >>
> >> I guess you already heard this, but:
> >>
> >> You cannot sent mail with POP3.
> >>
> >> The guys on mcs.net are right. POP3 protocol has no standards for
> >> sending email.
> >>
> >This is repeated in RFC 2449. It would also assume the MUA has the
> >capability of changing protocols or port numbers at will (which many do
> >not). Anyway, if I wanted my users to send mail through POP3, I wouldn't
> >be telling them to use an SMTP server like pretty much everyone else in
> >the world. Consider a mailserver with SMTP AUTH support (sendmail 8.10?)
> >rather than some oddball POP3 hack.
> >
> >-ac
> >
> >
> >--
> >==============================================================
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> >Systems Administrator                        Memphis, TN 38157
> >WebNet Memphis                                  (901) 432 6000
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
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> Happiness Is Seeing Your Mother-in-law on a Milk Carton
>
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Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> 
> Richard Oyh <richardoyh@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >   I was playing around with Slackware and Redhat before I switch over to
> > FreeBSD. I remember that by amending a file in Linux, the shell will show
> > all directories, files and executables in different colours.
> 
> Hideous.

	This kind of commentary really isn't helpful. If you don't like the
option,  you're free not to use it. However denegrating other people's
choices doesn't help anything, and contributes to the perception that
new users who post to -questions will be harped on. 

	Personally I use the color options in gnuls, and have for years. I like
the display, and I like being able to see at a glance what everything
is. I keep intending to try colorls, just haven't gotten around to it. 

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On 14-Nov-99 Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM wrote:
> Okay, let me rephrase my question.  Does Qpopper support the POP3
> extensions that allow me to send mail?  If it does not, which ones do? 
> There have to be some out there as MCS uses one.  I've tried to figure
> out which one they use (short of emailing postmaster) with no luck.
> 

Yes, qpopper accepts the XTND XMIT 
        (as always, RTFM, use the source,Luke).

spaz.dread$ telnet pop 110
Trying 192.168.170.18...
Connected to spits.austin.calcasieu.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK QPOP (version 2.53) at spits.calcasieu.com starting. 
<63630.942610394@spits.calcasieu.com>
user dread
+OK Password required for dread.
pass xyzxyz
+OK dread has 342 messages (1268565 octets).
xtnd xmit
+OK Start sending message.
From: dread
To: tforrest@mcs.net

Just a quick note about sending mail via POP extenstions.

later,

Don
.
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Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> 
> We have a 2.2.8 system which is in production, and is running out
> of swap.  We see a lot of signal 11 kills with apache (the latest
> stuff, too).    I wonder if FreeBSD can do swap files.   Much like
> Solaris can... you use a command to create a special file, and
> hand it off to swap.

	Yes. There is an excellent section on this in the handbook, available
on the web site. It takes you step by step through the whole process. I
recently did this myself, and I can vouch for what's there. 

Good luck,

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On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 06:47:18PM -0000, Phil Joseph wrote:

>     Thanks

ftp(1) does. Check out the `reget' command.

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Thanks for the tip,

I'm surprised I didn't think of looking at the mailing list header myself. I'm also
surprised freebsd is using bulk_mailer. I've read the source and it doesn't seem so
efficient, with putc to the smtp stream and using temporary file storage. I've been looking

into smtpfeed which would seem to yield a much better performance, though using more memory
then bulk_mailer. Nevertheless, most messages on the freebsd mailing list are quite small,
so that wouldn't make much difference. Furthermore, smptfeed can be configured to use esmtp
for larger messages which can be much more leniant on memory usage. On the other hand, as
you pointed out, FreeBSD uses postfix on which smtpfeed would probably not work. I wonder
how much of a performance gain postfix can procur, maybe I've been going at it all wrong...

I hope I'm wrong about bulk_mailer since the source code will be alot easier for me to play
with considering I keep my destination addresses in an sql table rather than a flat text
file. Nevertheless, I remain impressed by the potential performance of smtpfeed.
Marc

Francisco Reyes wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:27:10 -0500, Marc Tardif wrote:
>
> >Which programs does freebsd.org use for its mailing list?
> >- which mail server
> >- which mailing list manager
> >- which mail dispatcher for sorting and batching
>
> For starters you could look at the header for the list messages.
>
> >>Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538)
> >>Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12);
>
> The list I believe is majordomo since the list manager address is majordomo@freebsd.org
>
> Don't know about the search for the list.





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Hi Alejandro, and Barry,

thank you so much for the feedback.  Those were indeed the clues I was
missing.  When I get my -current box up and running, that will be the
first port that goes on.  Then I think it should work great!  Happy
FreeBSD'ing!

Woody


On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Alejandro Ramirez wrote:

[snip]

> The linux_lib has been updated and changet to
> "/usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-5.2", you should uninstall your linux_lib,
> update your ports tree, and then install the linux_base-5.2 port, and try
> again.
> 
> Good luck...
> Ales
> 

[snip]



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Just curious as to if there is a way to get xdm to open a login/passwd box
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While I was trying to compile gnupg-1.0.0 on FreeBSD-3.3, I got
following
error message and it is stopped.  What should I do?

# make install
"/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
"Makefile", line 25: Malformed conditional (${OSVERSION} < 300000)
"Makefile", line 25: Need an operator
"Makefile", line 27: if-less endif
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/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
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Hi,

This isn't addressed specifically to Nick Sayer - if anyone can give me
a hint what to do next I should be able (hopefully) to complete this
install within the next hour or two.

I had problems installing gdbm-1.7.3. Nick suggested the following:
> 
> pkg_delete gdbm-1.7.3 and fetch and install the latest
> gdbm port, which will instal 1.8.0, which will give you
> /usr/local/lib/libgdbm.so.2
> 

I located the whereabouts of gdbm-1.8.0 on the ports tree by doing a
search on FreeBSD.org

$ fetch
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/gdbm-1.8.0.tar.gz

I got the message that I wasn't logged in. Anyway I found the following
worked OK:

$ fetch ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/GNU/gdbm/gdbm-1.8.0.tar.gz

messages about 134080 bytes transferred etc...

I untarred it with:

$ tar xzf gdbm-1.8.0.tar.gz

I noticed that the permissions for the newly created gdbm-1.8.0
directory were different from others in /usr/ports/databases directory
(no idea why or even if this is significant) so I changed the
permissions to 0755.

$ cd gdbm-1.8.0
$ make install      (did this with gdbm-.1.7.3, so did this again for
~1.8.0)
make: don't know how to make install. Stop

so I tried :
$ make              (from Greg Lehey's Book, 2nd Edition, pg 96 -
Building the port)
make: no target to make.
$

I'm beginning to think I'm utterly useless at ports. Haven't got one to
work correctly yet.

What did I do wrong this time?

Cheers,
Ric


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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Richard Morte wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> This isn't addressed specifically to Nick Sayer - if anyone can give me
> a hint what to do next I should be able (hopefully) to complete this
> install within the next hour or two.
> 
> I had problems installing gdbm-1.7.3. Nick suggested the following:
> > 
> > pkg_delete gdbm-1.7.3 and fetch and install the latest
> > gdbm port, which will instal 1.8.0, which will give you
> > /usr/local/lib/libgdbm.so.2
> > 
> 
> I located the whereabouts of gdbm-1.8.0 on the ports tree by doing a
> search on FreeBSD.org
> 
> $ fetch
> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/gdbm-1.8.0.tar.gz

No, no. Don't fetch the distfile, fetch the _port_.

fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/databases/gdbm.tar

Unpack _that_ (in /usr/ports/databases, after moving the old gdbm port
out of the way). Then go back into the p5-gdbm port and make install.
It should go and do a make install in the gdbm port for you and then
install p5-gdbm for you.

> 
> I got the message that I wasn't logged in.

This happens when there are too many users on ftp.freebsd.org
(aka ftp.cdrom.com). Just try again later.

> Anyway I found the following
> worked OK:
> 
> $ fetch ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/GNU/gdbm/gdbm-1.8.0.tar.gz

Well, now that you've fetched that tar file, you can save yourself
fetching it again by putting it in /usr/ports/distfiles, but that
is the original source of gdbm, not the port. A FreeBSD "port" is
a Makefile and a bunch of patch and package files that teach your
machine how to fetch, patch, configure and install a piece of 3rd
party software automagically.

> 
> messages about 134080 bytes transferred etc...
> 
> I untarred it with:
> 
> $ tar xzf gdbm-1.8.0.tar.gz
> 
> I noticed that the permissions for the newly created gdbm-1.8.0
> directory were different from others in /usr/ports/databases directory
> (no idea why or even if this is significant) so I changed the
> permissions to 0755.
> 
> $ cd gdbm-1.8.0
> $ make install      (did this with gdbm-.1.7.3, so did this again for
> ~1.8.0)
> make: don't know how to make install. Stop
> 
> so I tried :
> $ make              (from Greg Lehey's Book, 2nd Edition, pg 96 -
> Building the port)
> make: no target to make.
> $
> 
> I'm beginning to think I'm utterly useless at ports. Haven't got one to
> work correctly yet.
> 
> What did I do wrong this time?

There is a difference between the port and the distfile that contains
the source.

> 
> Cheers,
> Ric
> 



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In article <382F18D1.49FE3C48@gorean.org>, Doug Barton <Doug@gorean.org> wrote:

> > Hideous.
> 
> 	This kind of commentary really isn't helpful.

<Pouting> And I even refrained from voicing my thoughts more
explicitly due to this being a public forum.

> However denegrating other people's choices doesn't help anything,
> and contributes to the perception that new users who post to
> -questions will be harped on.

Look, I answered the question instead of flaming the original poster
for not checking the archives where the very same question has been
answered a zillion times. There's hardly a way to be more nice.

> I like being able to see at a glance what everything is.

Sure.

naddy@bigeye[~] fgrep -w ls .bashrc
alias ll='/bin/ls -l'
alias ls='/bin/ls -F'

> I keep intending to try colorls, just haven't gotten around to it. 

colorls is a(n old) version of FreeBSD ls with a small patch to
add color output if the -G switch is present. Apparently I'm not
alone in my opinion on its aesthetics, otherwise it would have been
merged into FreeBSD proper a long time ago.

-- 
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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 youlgok@attglobal.net wrote:

> While I was trying to compile gnupg-1.0.0 on FreeBSD-3.3, I got
> following
> error message and it is stopped.  What should I do?
> 
> # make install
> "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find
> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> "Makefile", line 25: Malformed conditional (${OSVERSION} < 300000)
> "Makefile", line 25: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 27: if-less endif
> "Makefile", line 27: Need an operator
> "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find
> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

you installed GNU make either over or earlier in your
search path than BSD make, either fix your path making
sure /usr/bin/ is earlier than /usr/local/bin or reinstall
make by recompiling it from the source tree.

my question to you:  why didn't you use the convient port of
GNU make instead of rolling your own?

-Alfred



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The default FreeBSD boot manager can be reinstalled from sysinstall
or from dos, also, from a dos boot floppy; instructions are in the
tools directory on the cdrom or ftp.cdrom.com.

=09Annelise


On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Alexander Langer wrote:

> Thus spake Tonysux =A0 (tonysux999@hotmail.com):
>=20
> > Ok, i installed FreeBSD today, and forgot to install the boot manager. =
I figure, i can fix it by reinstalling, but i don't want reinstall because =
it would take a long time again. So, how would I install the boot manager b=
y using a sysinstall or a fixit disk without reinstalling?  My book doesn't=
 help and the two IRC EFnet channels arn't helping either.=20
>=20
> Question is, what do you want?
>=20
> What does boot _now_?
>=20
> Nothing? Windows? Linux?
>=20
> If Nothing, take the FreeBSD Fixit floppy and set the
> FreeBSD-partition as active, using fdisk. (from Sysinstall)
>=20
> If you have Windows _and_ FreeBSD and you want to decide on bootup,
> what you'd like to boot, you should take a look at the OSBS
> Bootmanager (that you have to install from DOS:)
> ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-1.4.1/i386/installation/misc/osbsb=
eta.exe.
>=20
> It is REALLY nice.
>=20
> Alex
> --=20
> I doubt, therefore I might be.=20
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It looks as though the boot partition for FreeBSD is not under
the 1024 cylinder mark, which may be necessary here.  See the
multios tutorial on www.freebsd.org for more information.  You
may have to reduce the size of your first (primary) Windows
partition to make it work, possibly so that you can get the
FreeBSD / file system entirely below 540 megs.  So, 480 for
the first Windows partition, then FreeBSD with / at about 50
or 55 megs, then rest of FreeBSD, and then the dos extended
partition.

	Annelise

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Rob Hunter wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I have a machine running Win98. I've got a 20 gig ide drive in it. I'm
> having difficulties getting FreeBSD booted after installing (3.3-RELEASE).
> 
> I'm installing from cdrom. This is what my partitions look like:
> 
> dos fdisk output:
> 
> Partition       Status  Type            Vol label       Mbytes  System
> c:      1               PRI DOS         WIN98           4001    FAT32
>         2       A       Non-DOS                         3561
>         3               EXT DOS                         12002
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         Logical DOS Drive Information
> 
> Drv     Vol Label       Mbytes  System          Usage
> d:                      12002   FAT32           100%
> A
> 
> I manage to finish the installation, and then ask it to install FreeBSD's
> default boot manager. After this, I get my 2 options when booting, and am
> told to press F3 to boot FreeBSD. I hear an audible beep when pressing
> this, and the only key that does anything is F1 (Win98).
> 
> I've tried installing os-bs and end up with the same. I've tried changing
> active id tag's too. I've also tried letting it modify the start id
> automatically upon booting.
> 
> No matter what, I can't get it to boot my bsd partition :(
> 
> 
> Any help appreciated
> 
> Regards
> 
> --Rob
> 
> 
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Nick Sayer wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Richard Morte wrote:

> >
> > $ fetch
> > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/gdbm-1.8.0.tar.gz
> 
> No, no. Don't fetch the distfile, fetch the _port_.
> 
> fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/databases/gdbm.tar

<snip>


I had hoped to be able to report that the install went successfully...
and indeed it did!

However, the first time it fell over shortly after installing libtools
and after returning to build p5-GDBM. I got:

cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
*** Error code 1   )
                   ) X 12
Stop.              )

I just did another `make install' and it completed fine.

I have one further question. I have now installed a full ports tree from
the CD ROM. I don't need 95%+ of what is there. Can it be pruned right
back? If so, can you point me to the docs? There's nothing about this in
Greg's book and a search through the archives didn't reveal much either.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Footnote: During the install I sat in amazement as yards of `stuff' was
spewed out to the screen. I have no idea who thought through the logic
behind all of this - simply quite brilliant!


My special thanks to Nick Sayer for the extended hand-holding. Well
done.
Next week it's back to that perl script...

Kind regards,

Ric


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how am i supposed to download the files neccessary for installing via
ftp?  i cant do it through netscape, and i can do it through ftp.  could
you just tell me where i can get a zip file with all the neccesary files
in it?  thanks.

-mike

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I've setup a cvs repository with password-authenticated access. Among
other things, I've created a CVSROOT/CVSROOT/passwd file that looks
like this:

csc228:$1$kkd[...]5grGZN0:csc228
dummy:$1$lh9M[...]lAur4G/:antipode

I have gotten both of the password strings by copying them from
/etc/master.passw.

The weird behavior I'm observing is as follows:

I can "cvs login" and work with the repository from a machine on my
home LAN as both "csc228", and "dummy" w/o a problem. I just set
CVSROOT=:pserver:dummy@door:/cvs, and everything is peachy.

However, when accessing the machine from the outside, I can only login
as "csc228". Cannot login as dummy!!! CVSROOT is set to
:pserver:dummy@wgaf.dyndns.org:/cvs In case it matters, the remote
machine is a Solaris workstation at school.

It seems very strange, because, as I said, I can login as "csc228"
from the same machine, and work with the repository.

,----- External connection error:
| eddie:~$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:dummy@wgaf.dyndns.org:/cvs
| eddie:~$ cvs login
| (Logging in to dummy@wgaf.dyndns.org)
| CVS password: 
| cvs [login aborted]: incorrect password
`-----
,----- Internal connection success:
| main:~$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:dummy@door:/cvs
| main:~$ cvs login
| (Logging in to dummy@door)
| CVS password: 
| main:~$ 
`-----

Any ideas?
Thanks!
-- 
Arcady Genkin                                http://wgaf.dyndns.org
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What Shell does FreeBSD use, Korn?


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Fredrik Carlen wrote:
> 
> Hi there! My /etc/profile contains the following line that applies to the
> Bash-prompt (with out the quotes, of course...):
> "PS1=">>>\u@\h [\W]\$"'

	You shouldn't set bash-specific things in /etc/profile, that's the file
for all bourne shells, including /bin/sh. Take a look at
http://freebsd.simplenet.com/Bash-prompts.txt for more information.

Good luck,

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	1. make the two boot floppies, kern.flp and mfsroot.flp.  Use
fdimage.exe to create.

	
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.3-RELEASE/floppies

	2. boot kern.flp, and follow instructions.  It'll let you select
an ftp server from there.

	marc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike [mailto:welsh.81@osu.edu]
> Sent: Sun, November 14, 1999 2:38 PM
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> 
> 
> how am i supposed to download the files neccessary for installing via
> ftp?  i cant do it through netscape, and i can do it through 
> ftp.  could
> you just tell me where i can get a zip file with all the 
> neccesary files
> in it?  thanks.
> 
> -mike
> 
> welsh.81@osu.edu
> 
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any shell, althought a fresh install will have csh

see /usr/ports/shells

l8r 

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Mike <welsh.81@osu.edu> writes:

> how am i supposed to download the files neccessary for installing via
> ftp?  i cant do it through netscape, and i can do it through ftp.  could
> you just tell me where i can get a zip file with all the neccesary files
> in it?  thanks.

I can't quite understand, what the problem is in your case. To do an
FTP install you need to download two files (floppy images) from
"floppies" subdirectory. Then you need to write those images onto
floppies, and boot with them. If you are saying that you *can*
download via ftp, then just fetch those two files.

The installation program will then take care of downloading all other
files, whatever files are necessary.

The installation instructions at freebsd.org explain in detail how
this can be done.
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Phil Joseph wrote:

Putting your entire message in the subject is a stupid thing to do, by
the way.

> Subject: Please can someone recommend an FTP that allows restarts on downloads

In FreeBSD, both ftp(1) and fetch(1) can do this. In ftp(1), use the
"reget" command. For fetch(1), RTFM and look at the "-r" and "-R"
options.

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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>
>> I've seen 'FUD' a lot, and I know it's not good... what does it mean
>> again?
>
>Read the jargon file.
>
>> Also, from what I understand, the issue with threads is in the kernel,
>> not user space.  If I understand correctly, the kernel is not threaded,
>> which means that all processes must wait one at a time for each kernel
>> call to finish, since it cannot be pre-empted.  It this correct?  I saw
>> an earlier post saying that Linux has a jump on this.
>
>This is an unrelated issue (Linux isn't very much beyond FreeBSD here).
>
>> I understand that user threads are supported, but apparently the issue
>> is kernel threads.
>
>You still haven't explained how.
OK, then, let me ask this:
Just what _is_ the thread support Linux has that FreeBSD doesn't have at
the moment?  I will procede once I have an accurate answer to this
question. Apparently FreeBSD still multitasks quite well without this
feature, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be a future design goal.


>
>Kris
>
>----
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>two evils..
>
>

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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Joao Pedras wrote:

> On 14-Nov-99 MonkeyPeed@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > What Shell does FreeBSD use, Korn?
> > 
>
> any shell, althought a fresh install will have csh
> 
> see /usr/ports/shells
> 
> l8r 
> 

as well as 'sh'

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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> >On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> >
> >> I've seen 'FUD' a lot, and I know it's not good... what does it mean
> >> again?
> >
> >Read the jargon file.
> >
> >> Also, from what I understand, the issue with threads is in the kernel,
> >> not user space.  If I understand correctly, the kernel is not threaded,
> >> which means that all processes must wait one at a time for each kernel
> >> call to finish, since it cannot be pre-empted.  It this correct?  I saw
> >> an earlier post saying that Linux has a jump on this.
> >
> >This is an unrelated issue (Linux isn't very much beyond FreeBSD here).
> >
> >> I understand that user threads are supported, but apparently the issue
> >> is kernel threads.
> >
> >You still haven't explained how.
> OK, then, let me ask this:
> Just what _is_ the thread support Linux has that FreeBSD doesn't have at
> the moment?  I will procede once I have an accurate answer to this
> question. Apparently FreeBSD still multitasks quite well without this
> feature, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be a future design goal.

FreeBSD supports the linux clone() syscall, there is outdated
work available on http://lt.tar.com/ for a FreeBSD port of linuxthreads.

What linux uses as it's thread model is a shared address space fork
with wrappers for signals and other thread specific.

This has been discussed to death already, I invite you to take a search
on the mailing lists for a the thread that discusses the work on
http://lt.tar.com/

-Alfred



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Folks,

What is the oldest release that is Y2K compliant?

I've got a bunch of FreeBSD Internet servers that are as 
old as release 2.6. Am I OK or do they need to be brought 
forward?

Thanks,

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Joe Schwartz wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> What is the oldest release that is Y2K compliant?
> 
> I've got a bunch of FreeBSD Internet servers that are as
> old as release 2.6. Am I OK or do they need to be brought
> forward?
> 

Hey Joe,

have a gander at <http://www.nl.freebsd.org/y2kbug.html> to start with.
Take note of comments about BIOS, RT-Clocks and such.

In short (and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong ;') my
understanding is that FreeBSD itself is "Y2KOK", but some applications
may experience some problems.

hth,

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Hey all...

I've been making a whole mess of changes to my system lately, and
something, somewhere has risen up to give me troubles :)

In the past week, I've installed and configured named and apache (with
modssl).  Everything was going great until i rebooted last night.

I wanted to hop onto irc for a bit (using ircII), and well, I'm getting a
response from the servers saying that I need to have my sysadmin install
identd.  The thing is that I've had pidentd installed for 2+ months now and
it WAS working flawlessly.  I'm running v3.3 right now.  Nothign I found in
the archives seemed to be the cure.

Beyond that, I had a problem with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh.  From what
I understand, the modssl package sets up the SSL portion of apache.  The
keys, however, require a passphrase in order to activate them.  When the
system reboots and the apache.sh script tries to run, the out (per the
script) gets directed to /dev/null.  One of the thigns that it redirects is
the prompt asking for the passphrase.  Is there a way around this?

As for my named stuff, I'll go back and continue in the thread I already
started :)

I've been trying figure out that identd problem, but I'm baffled.  I have
even tried deinstalling and reinstall pident and ircII on the off chance
that somethign got corrupt somewhere.  I could just let it be, but I use
irc as a dirt cheap way of talking to home :)

Thanks in advance!!!
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In order to do network address translation with FreeBSD 3.3, do I have to
compile the kernel using the following option:

options IPFIREWALL
options IPDIVERT


Don James



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Mike, 

My "flawless" installation of named seems to have some bugs, but I think
they're "user error"... upon bootup, I get the following messages:

merlin# Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: reloading nameserver
Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:64: syntax error
near zo
ne
Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:97: cannot
redefine zone
 '75.175.128.in-addr.arpa' class 1
Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:107: cannot
redefine zon
e '75.175.128.in-addr.arpa' class 1
Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: Ready to answer queries.Nov: No match.

Seems easy enough to trackdown, rite?  Well, this is where the text is
tripping up:

The syntax error near line 64:

//};

zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" {
        type master;
        file "s/named.localhost.rev";
        };

I don't see a syntax error?

As for the "can't redefine zones", here are examples of my zones.  Are
these allowed:  Please recall that I'm planning on setting up 3 domains on
a single IP.  In the examples, taking 1.2.3.4 to be my IP and 192.168.1.*
to be my internal subnet.  Given that there are 3 domains, are the 2nd and
third zones for reverse IP's needed, or is there something to do inside the
single reverse to make it happen

zone "foobar1.com" {
        type master;
        file "foobar1.com";
        };

zone "3.2.1.in-addr.arpa" {
        type master;
        file "foobar1.com.rev";
        };

zone "1.168.192.in-addr.arpa" {
        type master;
        file "internal.rev";
        };

zone "foobar2.com" {
        type master;
        file "foobar2.com";
        };

zone "3.2.1.in-addr.arpa" {
        type master;
        file "foobar2.com.rev";
        };

zone "foobar3.com" {
        type master;
        file "foobar3.com";
        };

zone "3.2.1.in-addr.arpa" {
        type master;
        file "foobar3.com.rev";
        };

Thanks again!!!
--John

>> Well, the good news is that the suggestions you made seems to work quite
>> (almost) flawlessly.  That was probably the easiest ("basic") setup I've
>
>Thats great!
>
>> done yet :)  I made up my (currently) phoney domain per your instructions,
>> and found it with nslookup no problem.  As I indicated though, this is
>> merely a stepping stone for stuff I plan to (need to) get done in the next
>> couple of months, so, here's a few more questions - if these branch outside
>> of the realm of named, please let me know :)
>> 
>> (funny... as I started asking the questions, and started pasting in cuts
>> from my files, I found a lot of my errors =) ) 
>> 
>> 1) I'll be registering 3 domain names.  As things grow, they'll be used.
>> If my domains are foo1.bar, foo2.bar, foo3.bar, and I have them all point
>> to my dns (let's say my machine's # is 1.1.1.1), and assuming all http
>> access is off one machine, how do I get the machine to recognize where to
>> go for a request between each of the domains?  I'm assuming i have to set
>> up zones for them, but how do I tell it where to find the appropriate
>> files?  I'm not sure if this is this outside of the named question?
>
>You'll have to set up three different zone files.  The /etc/namedb/named.conf
>file is the `anchor' for the named configuration, and in this file you'd put
>lines like:
>
>  // Zone file for the foo1.bar domain...
>  zone "foo1.bar" {
>    type master;
>    file "foo1.bar.domain";
>  };
>
>  // Zone file for the foo2.bar domain...
>  zone "foo2.bar" {
>    type master;
>    file "foo2.bar.domain";
>  };
>
>  // ....more zone declarations...
>
>Next, you'd create each of the fooX.bar.domain files (as outlined in a
>previous email).
>
>Assuming that your web server has the IP address 1.2.3.4, and that you want
>to have that machine visible from each of the fooX.bar domains, you'd
>create an address (A) entry in each of the zone files for that machine:
>
>[in foo1.bar.domain]
>   www      IN        A         1.2.3.4
>
>[in foo2.bar.domain]
>   www      IN        A         1.2.3.4
>
>[in foo3.bar.domain]
>   www      IN        A         1.2.3.4
>
>Now, an nslookup on  www.fooX.bar (X=1,2,3) should return 1.2.3.4.
>
>You had the question: ``assuming all http access is off one machine, how do
>I get the machine to recognize where to go for a request between each of the
>domains?''
>
>[I think this is the `virtual hosting' question -- I'm not experienced at
> doing that, and I think it falls outside of named, but here goes....]
>
>As stated above, the name->address translation for each of the www.fooX.bar
>names will return the IP address 1.2.3.4 --- so a `naive' setup of your
>Webserver for these domains would return the **same** set of pages, which
>is most probably not what you want!  I'm assuming you want the requests to
>http://www.foo1.bar/welcome.html  and  http://www.foo2.bar/welcome.html
>to return different pages...
>
>The Apache Web server (v1.3 and above?) supports `Virtual Hosting', which
>is the ability of a single machine to act differently according to the
>name/IP-address it is accessed as.
>
>There are two virtual hosting mechanisms (documented in the Apache
>distribution -- look at it for more details):
>
>  1. IP Address
>
>     I won't discuss this one -- it won't work with the named configuration
>     that I've suggested above.
>
>  2. Name
>
>     Use the <VirtualHost>, and NameVirtualHost directives in your apache
>     configuration files.  Each virtual host can be given its own set of
>     web pages with the DocumentRoot directive.
>
>According to the Apache Documentation:
>
>  ``While the approach with IP-based virtual hosts works well, it is not the
>    most elegant solution, ..., and it is hard to implement on some machines.
>    The HTTP/1.1 contains a method for the server to identify what name it is
>    being addressed as. Apache 1.1 and later support this approach ....
>
>    The benefits of using the name-based virtual host support is a practically
>    unlimited number of servers, ease of configuration and use, and requires
>    no additional hardware or software. The main disadvantage is that the
>    client must support this part of the protocol. ...''
>
>
>So, have a look at the Apache documentation, and try it out!
>
>
>> 2) Based upon the upper question, I also need to set up an smtp server.
>> I'm assuming I can just add a record to the named files for "mail.foo1.bar"
>> and "mail.foo2.bar" and "mail.foo3.bar".  But again, how is this handled if
>> all three are on the same machine?
>
>Mail is handled quite differently in the DNS system. It uses the `MX' (mail
>exchange) records in the zone files. Basically, I've got entries like the
>following in my zone files:
>
>[e.g.  foo1.bar.domain  zone file]
>
>   gateway     IN   A        1.1.1.1
>   ;           IN   MX  100  mail           ; (mail==gateway, no MX req'd)
>   mail        IN   CNAME    gateway        ; mail is another name for gateway
>
>   ; mail sent to machineX.foo1.bar  is handled by the mail (gateway) machine
>   machine1    IN   A        1.1.1.2
>               IN   MX  100  mail
>   machine2    IN   A        1.1.1.3
>               IN   MX  100  mail
>   machine3    IN   A        1.1.1.4
>               IN   MX  100  mail
>
>Note: I've used the `CNAME' directive.  This is a handy directive for setting
>up aliases for the name of a machine.  Internally, I have `friendly' names for
>a few of my machines (sparkle, alpha, rabbit, etc...),  but these are aliased
>over to the more `functional' names  www, mail, ftp  that provide the given
>service.
>
>You can set a single mail gateway to accept mail for a variety of hosts.
>I'm not a sendmail guru, but I've done it by editing the /etc/mail/sendmail.cw
>file, and adding in the names (as seen in the DNS) of the hosts that I accept
>mail for. You might also have to edit the /etc/sendmail.cf file to add in
>the line:
>
>   Fw-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw
>
>(From memory, this is commented out by default (?).  It should be at the top
>of the /etc/sendmail.cf file)
>
>> 
>> Again, I know these aren't well phrased questions, but I hope you can still
>> help.
>
>Your questions are fine!  I think we've found the `virtual hosting' part of
>what you want to do -- it is done by Apache (or your web server), and not the
>DNS. Your second question (on mail) is handled by both the DNS and the mail
>transport agent (e.g. sendmail).



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In order to do network address translation with FreeBSD 3.3, do I have to
compile the kernel using the following option:

options IPFIREWALL
options IPDIVERT


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> In order to do network address translation with FreeBSD 3.3, do I have to
> compile the kernel using the following option:
> 
> options IPFIREWALL
> options IPDIVERT
> 
> 
> Don James
> 

The ipfirewall (4) manpage mentions the following kernel options:

  IPFIREWALL
  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT
  [IP]DIVERT
  ^^^^
  (The IP is dropped (small type) -- should raise a problem report on it).

so, yes, you need the options that you mentioned.  Note that unless the
kernel is compiled with the option

  IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT

the firewall will deny all packets by default -- this could lock you of the
box for a while. There are a few other configuration options for the kernel
firewall support in the /sys/i386/conf/LINT file (E.g. IPFIREWALL_FORWARD)

The natd (8) manpage also mentions these configuration options, along with
details on how to setup the translation mechanism.

If you want to use your gateway as a firewall as well, you'll have to make
a few changes to the /etc/rc.conf file to activate it:

   firewall_enable="YES"
   firewall_type="open"         # Allow all packets thru'  <----- check this

The /etc/rc.firewall script establishes the rules in the kernel. You'll want
to have a look at this.

The FreeBSD handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook) has a good section
on setting up firewalls. You should read that as well.

Regards,

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Hello Don,

You've already posted this question under the subject 'natd', to which
I've replied. It is considered poor form to ask the same question twice under
different subjects, without waiting at least a few days for replies.

You might enjoy reading  http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.

Regards,

Mike Kennett.
(mike@laurasia.com.au)

> In order to do network address translation with FreeBSD 3.3, do I have to
> compile the kernel using the following option:
> 
> options IPFIREWALL
> options IPDIVERT
> 
> 
> Don James
> 



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How do I know that natd is running?

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Hello John,

> Mike, 
> 
> My "flawless" installation of named seems to have some bugs, but I think
> they're "user error"... upon bootup, I get the following messages:
> 
> merlin# Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: reloading nameserver
> Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:64: syntax error
> near zo
> ne
> Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:97: cannot
> redefine zone
>  '75.175.128.in-addr.arpa' class 1
> Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:107: cannot
> redefine zon
> e '75.175.128.in-addr.arpa' class 1
> Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: Ready to answer queries.Nov: No match.
> 
> Seems easy enough to trackdown, rite?  Well, this is where the text is
> tripping up:
> 
> The syntax error near line 64:
> 
> //};
  ^^^^ (see comment below)

The snippet:

> 
> zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" {
>         type master;
>         file "s/named.localhost.rev";
>         };

looks fine to me.
> 
> I don't see a syntax error?

Neither do I!  What about any syntax errors before this snippet?  E.g. does
the 'options' declaration have a closing brace?  Is it possible that you've
commented it out? The zone declarations must be in a different block from
the options declarations.

If you can't find the problem, it would help if you send the entire named.conf
file to the list.

> 
> As for the "can't redefine zones", here are examples of my zones.  Are
> these allowed:  Please recall that I'm planning on setting up 3 domains on
> a single IP.  In the examples, taking 1.2.3.4 to be my IP and 192.168.1.*
> to be my internal subnet.  Given that there are 3 domains, are the 2nd and
> third zones for reverse IP's needed, or is there something to do inside the
> single reverse to make it happen

The reverse mapping is taking an IP address and converting it into a name.
By setting up three different reverse mapping rules, how can this conversion
be done uniquely?  It can't.

So named is quite correct at barfing about the redeclarations of the
reverse mappings in the 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa zone.  You'll have to decide
which of the three domain names is most important, and use that alone for
the reverse mapping.

> 
> Thanks again!!!
> --John
> 

No worries. Hope it helps,

Mike Kennett
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> Hi Mike,
> 
> 	Not sure that that works.  Nothing comes back from that command.

OK.  When the system starts up, do you get any error messages?
E.g. "natd: aliasing address not given" ??

If the `ps -ax | grep natd` returns nothing, then natd is not running.
The problem is now to find out why.

Do you have the gateway_enable="YES" flag set in /etc/rc.conf?  Please
send the output of the command

  sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding

command (See step 3 of 'RUNNING NATD', in the natd (8) manpage).

Regards,

Mike Kennett

> 
> Don
> 
> 
> At 12:47 PM 11/15/1999 +0800, you wrote:
> >> Hi Mike,
> >> 
> >> 	Ok, mike. I'll ask the question this way:
> >> 
> >> 	How do I know that natd is running?
> >
> >How about:
> >
> >   ps ax | grep natd
> >
> >Does that work?
> >
> >
> 
> 



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I recently installed a new second drive into my computer.  It's a 20 gig
Maxtor drive.  I have an extended partition on it that takes up 15 gigs and
5 gigs for FreeBSD.  My first hard drive just has Win98 on it.  I can't get
the boot manager to boot my FreeBSD partition correctly.  This is the output
from bootinst.exe for the second hard drive:

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
¦ ¦Partition¦Can ¦Boot¦   Beginning   ¦    Ending     ¦ Relative¦Number of¦
¦N¦  Type   ¦Boot¦Part¦Head  Cyl  Sect¦Head  Cyl  Sect¦ Sectors ¦ Sectors ¦
+-+---------+----+----+---------------+---------------+---------+---------¦
¦1¦  ?????  ¦ yes¦ no ¦  0 ¦   1 ¦  1 ¦254 ¦1023 ¦ 63 ¦   16065 ¦30732345 ¦
+-+---------+----+----+----+-----+----+----+-----+----+---------+---------¦
¦2¦  386bsd ¦ no ¦ no ¦255 ¦1023 ¦ 63 ¦254 ¦1023 ¦ 63 ¦30748410 ¦ 9124920 ¦
+-+---------+----+----+----+-----+----+----+-----+----+---------+---------¦
¦3¦  empty  ¦ no ¦ no ¦  0 ¦   0 ¦  0 ¦  0 ¦   0 ¦  0 ¦       0 ¦       0 ¦
+-+---------+----+----+----+-----+----+----+-----+----+---------+---------¦
¦4¦  empty  ¦ no ¦ no ¦  0 ¦   0 ¦  0 ¦  0 ¦   0 ¦  0 ¦       0 ¦       0 ¦
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Sorry for the distortion in the table above.

Twice I've used the freeBSD fdisk utility to set the FreeBSD partition to
boot.  The first time when I ran bootinst to see what was going on, the
extended partition was marked as "can boot" and "boot partition".  The
FreeBSD partition was set to no and no.  The next time I used the FreeBSD
fdisk utility, I set the FreeBSD partition to boot and used the W command.
When I rebooted, I still couldn't boot to FreeBSD so I used bootinst again
and the above is what I saw.

How do I:

1)  Unmarked the extended partition as "can boot".  I tried using dos fdisk
but it won't let you make a partition on a second hard drive as bootable, so
I couldn't take the setting off either.

2) Set the FreeBSD partition to "can boot" and make it stay.

Thanks in advance.



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I understand that 'make world' recompiles the basic system.  I also
understand that the best way to update ports is to make them then try
them, then de-install the old ones and re-install the new ones.
here are 2 questions:
Is there one command that will rebuild ALL the ports without installing
them?  Something similar to 'make buildworld', only for the ports
collection?  Also, when trying the new version of a port, even though
the package may have a different name, won't the binary have the same
name and overwrite the older version?



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<MonkeyPeed@aol.com> wrote:

> What Shell does FreeBSD use, Korn?

FreeBSD ships with a POSIX-compatible /bin/sh as well as the
traditional BSD /bin/csh.

A variety of further shells is available in the ports section:
bash, pdksh, tcsh, zsh, etc.

<Scratches head> No ksh93. I guess I didn't make that port after all.
;-)
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On 15 Nov, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> Is there one command that will rebuild ALL the ports without installing
> them?  Something similar to 'make buildworld', only for the ports
> collection?  

Go to the top level of the ports collection (/usr/ports) and run "make"
with no arguments. This will build all of them without installing them
also. The handbook has a good deal on this.

> Also, when trying the new version of a port, even though
> the package may have a different name, won't the binary have the same
> name and overwrite the older version?

Yes, but the idea is to try the new version in the build directory
(without installing it). Don't run make install until you think it's a
good idea.

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hi my names matt,
when i try to install freebsd 2.2.8 i boot from my boot disk, fix all =
the hardware conflicts, and then let it probe them... so it probes and =
then says
rootfs is 1440 kbyte compiled in MFS.. then nothing happens! i have a =
cursor, i can type stuff and hit enter, i can hit scroll lock and view =
the probe results.. but the main menu never shows up! please help! =
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Are solaris spinlocks supported?

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Hope this repeat question is in "Good Form" as I have waited a couple of
days for an answer and none have been forthcoming.  

As Ariel Burbaickij says;  "keep trying".

I am running FreeBSD 3.2 on an Asus P3 w/ a 400 MgH Celeron, 64 Mg of
RAM, Riva TNT /w 16 Mg of RAM, sound card, etc.;.

I used the Complete Free BSD, Freebsd Manual, discussion group archives
and have lurked on this list for three months trying to get printing
configured on my machine.

I wrote /etc/printcap as instructed for my HP LaserJet 6MP, did all of
the testing and finally took everyone's advice and installed apsfilter.

First try with apsfilter was a message that the address in the port
files was no good.  After finding Andreas Klemm's web page and hacking
the port Makefile to reflect the new address I was able to download
apsfilter.  The only problem I then had was that the checksum did not
match the file on the web site.  I proceeded anyway and the port
installed.  

I configured the apsfilter SETUP program for my printer (which BTW will
only be allowed to use the ghostscript LaserJet IV driver, Not the PCL
5-6 family) ran the test page and got a picture of a tiger's head. 
Well, almost a complete picture of a Tiger's head; about the top left
hand corner of a page that if complete would be the size of four (4) 8.5
x 11 sheets of paper.  When printing a page, the fonts are anywhere from
20 to 36 points and produce that same 1/4 page.  

I read the man page, the archives, ghostscript README, Use.htm, etc.,
etc.  I don't know how I got this resolution or how to change it back to
a reasonable size.

Before I came to FreeBSD, I used the BSD printing system on Linux.  The
system is in need of a major overhaul but it seems to work well on
Linux.  I can't understand how I am having so much trouble here.

Any help will be appreciated.

Rusty


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On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 05:46:55PM -0500, MonkeyPeed@aol.com wrote:
> What Shell does FreeBSD use, Korn?

A fresh install will give you csh for root and sh for ordinary users.
Then you just pkg_add bash-2.0.3 from the packages, and your off with
bash. You can also install any shell you want, that's available for UNIX
> 
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On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 10:35:29PM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> I am trying to install XFree. From sysinstall I first tried to install from ftp. I used a custom 
> distribution and selected all the components I wanted from Xfree, selected FTP as media and tried commit. 
> I got a blue screen for about 30 seconds and then it asked if I wanted to go to the configuration screen.
> 
> Tried to install from the 3.3 release. After it complained it didn't match I instructed it to use the Cd 
> anyway. I got the same a blue screen and the question about the configuration screen.
> 
> I am trying to install from ports, but it would have been much simpler/easier/quicker if I could have 
> installed from the CD. Even if the CD didn't have the latest version I would have preferred that.
> 

On the CD's you have got the .tgz files that you can install with pkg_add

And please wrap you mailer lines to something like 70 os so. Your mail
looks terrible when read in a decent mailer.

> Is the sysinstall on stable looking for a newer version of XFree than the one in 3.3 CD?
> 
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What version of apsfilter do you use?

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Rusty wrote:

> 
> 
> Hope this repeat question is in "Good Form" as I have waited a couple of
> days for an answer and none have been forthcoming.  
> 
> As Ariel Burbaickij says;  "keep trying".
> 
> I am running FreeBSD 3.2 on an Asus P3 w/ a 400 MgH Celeron, 64 Mg of
> RAM, Riva TNT /w 16 Mg of RAM, sound card, etc.;.
> 
> I used the Complete Free BSD, Freebsd Manual, discussion group archives
> and have lurked on this list for three months trying to get printing
> configured on my machine.
> 
> I wrote /etc/printcap as instructed for my HP LaserJet 6MP, did all of
> the testing and finally took everyone's advice and installed apsfilter.
> 
> First try with apsfilter was a message that the address in the port
> files was no good.  After finding Andreas Klemm's web page and hacking
> the port Makefile to reflect the new address I was able to download
> apsfilter.  The only problem I then had was that the checksum did not
> match the file on the web site.  I proceeded anyway and the port
> installed.  
> 
> I configured the apsfilter SETUP program for my printer (which BTW will
> only be allowed to use the ghostscript LaserJet IV driver, Not the PCL
> 5-6 family) ran the test page and got a picture of a tiger's head. 
> Well, almost a complete picture of a Tiger's head; about the top left
> hand corner of a page that if complete would be the size of four (4) 8.5
> x 11 sheets of paper.  When printing a page, the fonts are anywhere from
> 20 to 36 points and produce that same 1/4 page.  
> 
> I read the man page, the archives, ghostscript README, Use.htm, etc.,
> etc.  I don't know how I got this resolution or how to change it back to
> a reasonable size.
> 
> Before I came to FreeBSD, I used the BSD printing system on Linux.  The
> system is in need of a major overhaul but it seems to work well on
> Linux.  I can't understand how I am having so much trouble here.
> 
> Any help will be appreciated.
> 
> Rusty
> 
> 
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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Richard Oyh wrote:

> Hi
>   I was playing around with Slackware and Redhat before I switch over to 
> FreeBSD. I remember that by amending a file in Linux, the shell will show 
> all directories, files and executables in different colours. Is it possible 
> to do so in FreeBSD?
> 
> Regards
> Just another one of those Newbies
> 

You can install the colorls.  It's in the port directory as well as the
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Add ports-base to your cvsupfile to keep your ports system up to date.

	-Chris England

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 youlgok@attglobal.net wrote:

> While I was trying to compile gnupg-1.0.0 on FreeBSD-3.3, I got
> following
> error message and it is stopped.  What should I do?
> 
> # make install
> "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find
> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> "Makefile", line 25: Malformed conditional (${OSVERSION} < 300000)
> "Makefile", line 25: Need an operator
> "Makefile", line 27: if-less endif
> "Makefile", line 27: Need an operator
> "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find
> /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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You do an ftp install through a program called sysinstall which takes you
through the installation and configuration of the operating system.

If you are installing from MS-DOS, first you need to make your boot
floppies (mfsroot.flp and kern.flp) with rawrite.exe.

Boot off of kern.flp and you will later you will be asked to insert
mfsroot.flp.  Soon enough you will be in sysinstall, doing the
installation of your choice, whether it be an ftpinstall or something
else.  ftp install is nicely automated.  For further info, use
www.freebsd.org/handbook. Enjoy.


On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Mike wrote:

> how am i supposed to download the files neccessary for installing via
> ftp?  i cant do it through netscape, and i can do it through ftp.  could
> you just tell me where i can get a zip file with all the neccesary files
> in it?  thanks.
> 
> -mike
> 
> welsh.81@osu.edu
> 
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Hi

Has anyone tried to build Kmysql-1.2.0 (the KDE interface for mysql).  I'm
trying to build if with FreeBSD 3.2 but without luck.

I get the following message
servertree.h: In method "ServerTree:"ServerTree()":
servertree.h:507: Internal compiler error.

and with a message to submit a bug report.

Thankx 


Marc


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---- Quoting Chris England's message, sent 11/15/99 12:54am ----

> >   I was playing around with Slackware and Redhat before I switch over to
> > FreeBSD. I remember that by amending a file in Linux, the shell will show
> > all directories, files and executables in different colours. Is it possible
> > to do so in FreeBSD?
> >
> > Regards
> > Just another one of those Newbies
> >
> 
> You can install the colorls.  It's in the port directory as well as
> the pre-compiled packages.

or `gnuls' in /usr/ports/misc/gnuls

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Can anyone give me an idea of what's happening here?

riven($:leon) ssh leon@ra
leon@ra's password: load: 0.17  cmd: ssh1 339 [piperd] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 920k

After I type my password I get that load: line.  It works sometimes, 
however.

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I have installed in my FreeBSD Box (Ver 3.2) two network cards one of the=
m
with address 172.16.1.3 and the other gets its address by DHCP (the isc-d=
hcp
dhcp client package)in order to do this I configured "natd" and some rule=
s for
/etc/rc.firewall as the "man natd" documentation says.

the layout of my network is as follows:

In the local side:
    One client machine (Windows 98) with IP address 172.16.1.80/24 (ed2)
    My FreeBSD server with 2 NIC's one of them =

            with IP address 172.16.1.3/24 and the
            other configures after startup by
            "/usr/local/sbin/dhcpc -drn ed1" (ed1)
            this is connected to my cable modem
            most of the times the IP address bounded to this
            NIC is 10.8.105.80/16
In the network of my cable provider the gateway is 10.8.1.1/16

everything works fine (ftp, telnet, DNS, http) from my FreeBSD server and=
 my
windows client, except ICMP protocol, when I send a ping from the windows=

client the command sends the following message:

ping www.freebsd.org

     Making ping to www.freebsd.org [204.216.27.21] ....

     Response from 10.8.1.1 destination network unreachable.

When I make this from the freeBSD server I got
   css# ping www.freebsd.org
   PING freefall.freebsd.org (204.216.27.21): 56 data bytes
   36 bytes from 10.8.1.1: Communication prohibited by filter
   Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst
   4  5  00 5400 18df   0 0000  ff  01 4784 10.8.105.80  204.216.27.21 =


It says COMMUNICATION PROHIBITED BY FILTER

I look in the ipfw rules with the command "ipfw -at l" and I got the
following:
  css# ipfw -at l
  00100  6623 2750220 Mon Nov 15 02:47:26 1999 divert 8668 ip from any to=
 any
via ed1
  00200 16221 6113967 Mon Nov 15 02:49:59 1999 allow ip from any to any
  65535     0       0                          deny ip from any to any   =


these are the rules that the documentation of natd says i must include (v=
ery
unsafe but they must let me work).

I can't find where is the filter that don't let me ping to any internet
server.

thanks in advance for your help






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John

Have you tried running nslint? It usually picks up very well on
configuration errors. There are a few occasions when you may not want
reverse mapping (IP address ==> Name); for instance, we have an Apache
server on our FreebSD box, configured for name-virtual hosting. All the
names of the virtual domains share the same IP address, so we have a
zone that provides this mapping, but no reverse mapping (ie no PTR
records).

nslint complains about the fact that there are no PTR records for our
'Apache' domains, but this is nslint being too conservative in this
instance.

Recommend you try it! (Apologies if you already have!)

Ric

Michael Kennett wrote:
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> > Mike,
> >
> > My "flawless" installation of named seems to have some bugs, but I think
> > they're "user error"... upon bootup, I get the following messages:
> >
> > merlin# Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: reloading nameserver
> > Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:64: syntax error
> > near zo
> > ne
> > Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:97: cannot
> > redefine zone
> >  '75.175.128.in-addr.arpa' class 1
> > Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:107: cannot
> > redefine zon
> > e '75.175.128.in-addr.arpa' class 1
> > Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: Ready to answer queries.Nov: No match.
> >
> > Seems easy enough to trackdown, rite?  Well, this is where the text is
> > tripping up:
> >
> > The syntax error near line 64:
> >
> > //};
>   ^^^^ (see comment below)
> 
> The snippet:
> 
> >
> > zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" {
> >         type master;
> >         file "s/named.localhost.rev";
> >         };
> 
> looks fine to me.
> >
> > I don't see a syntax error?
> 
> Neither do I!  What about any syntax errors before this snippet?  E.g. does
> the 'options' declaration have a closing brace?  Is it possible that you've
> commented it out? The zone declarations must be in a different block from
> the options declarations.
> 
> If you can't find the problem, it would help if you send the entire named.conf
> file to the list.
> 
> >
> > As for the "can't redefine zones", here are examples of my zones.  Are
> > these allowed:  Please recall that I'm planning on setting up 3 domains on
> > a single IP.  In the examples, taking 1.2.3.4 to be my IP and 192.168.1.*
> > to be my internal subnet.  Given that there are 3 domains, are the 2nd and
> > third zones for reverse IP's needed, or is there something to do inside the
> > single reverse to make it happen
> 
> The reverse mapping is taking an IP address and converting it into a name.
> By setting up three different reverse mapping rules, how can this conversion
> be done uniquely?  It can't.
> 
> So named is quite correct at barfing about the redeclarations of the
> reverse mappings in the 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa zone.  You'll have to decide
> which of the three domain names is most important, and use that alone for
> the reverse mapping.
> 
> >
> > Thanks again!!!
> > --John
> >
> 
> No worries. Hope it helps,
> 
> Mike Kennett
> (mike@laurasia.com.au)
> 
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> John
> 
> Have you tried running nslint? It usually picks up very well on
> configuration errors. There are a few occasions when you may not want
> reverse mapping (IP address ==> Name); for instance, we have an Apache
> server on our FreebSD box, configured for name-virtual hosting. All the
> names of the virtual domains share the same IP address, so we have a
> zone that provides this mapping, but no reverse mapping (ie no PTR
> records).
> 
> nslint complains about the fact that there are no PTR records for our
> 'Apache' domains, but this is nslint being too conservative in this
> instance.
> 
> Recommend you try it! (Apologies if you already have!)

I'd never heard of nslint before. It looks like a good little tool.

For the record, it can be found in the ports collection (/usr/ports/net/nslint)

Regards,

Mike Kennett



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On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Edirol wrote:

> I'm using 3.3-RELEASE with Samba 2.05 (installed from ports) and I notice
> that there's a ~5sec delay in opening a file on the FBSD server from a
> Win98SE machine sometimes.  My transfer speeds aren't affected however.
> 
> I haven't tried Samba 2.06 yet though.
> 
> - Will
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marty Cawthon <mrc@ChipChat.com>
> To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Cc: <argyll@ChipChat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:21 PM
> Subject: SAMBA / 3.3-Stable / transfer delay
> 
> 
> >   I am experiencing a "one-way delay" in file transfers from Microsoft
> Clients
> > (Windows 95 and Windows NT) to Samba.
> >
> > FreeBSD 3.3-Stable as of Oct 8 1999
> > samba 2.0.5 installed from the ports collection
> >   smb.conf includes this line:
> >       socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY SO_SENDBUF=16384
> SO_RCVBUF=16384
> >   (originally it had just 'TCP_NODELAY'
> >    but I added the others per suggestions found in on-line resources)
> >
> > Network is a 10/100 Mbps Bay Switch with all below running 100 Mbps
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Client                      Send 1MB to SAMBA      Receive 1MB from SAMBA
> >                             copy e:\test\file u:\  copy u:\file e:\test
> > ------------------------    ---------------------- ----------------------
> >   Microsoft Windows 95      15 seconds             Instantaneous
> >   Microsoft Windows NT4     15 seconds             Instantaneous
> >   IBM OS/2 + TCP/IP 4.1     Instantaneous          Instantaneous
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >   (IBM OS/2 TCP/IP 4.1 is an optional IBM TCP/IP stack for OS/2
> >    which IBM describes as a "BSD 4.3 stack")
> >
> >   I had mentioned this at FreeBSDCon, and several people had suggestions,
> > most mentioned the "TCP_NODELAY" option.
> >
> >   I still see this delay.
> > Do others run 3.3-Stable and Samba also see this type of delay?
> > Are there other suggestions for solving this trouble?
> >
> > Marty Cawthon
> > ChipChat
> >
The "one-way delay" turns out to be a two-way-delay. I experienced the same
problems, but when I used smbclient to connect to a Windows NT4 box instead
of the other way around, the put command was about 4 times slower than the 
get command. So it seems to me that putting a file is slower than getting a
file. I don't know whether this is possible (isn't get the same as put?) but
I hope this gives you another idea as to where to look for the problem.

-Rik van Mierlo
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Hello all

I would like to know what is the different between Sun Solaris BSD and
freebsd

thank you

b. regards
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Thank you for your reply.  After installing 3.3 by FTP, I tried to
install
the gnupg-1.0.0 by compilation, because I couldn't find its package.  I
didn't touch any part of the system.  I also checked the path and
/usr/bin is placed ahead of /usr/local/bin.
What should I do now?

Thanks.

-Paul



Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 youlgok@attglobal.net wrote:
>
> > While I was trying to compile gnupg-1.0.0 on FreeBSD-3.3, I got
> > following
> > error message and it is stopped.  What should I do?
> >
> > # make install
> > "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find
> > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> > "Makefile", line 25: Malformed conditional (${OSVERSION} < 300000)
> > "Makefile", line 25: Need an operator
> > "Makefile", line 27: if-less endif
> > "Makefile", line 27: Need an operator
> > "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2: Could not find
> > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
> > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
>
> you installed GNU make either over or earlier in your
> search path than BSD make, either fix your path making
> sure /usr/bin/ is earlier than /usr/local/bin or reinstall
> make by recompiling it from the source tree.
>
> my question to you:  why didn't you use the convient port of
> GNU make instead of rolling your own?
>
> -Alfred



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Hello Peter

> I would like to know what is the different between Sun Solaris BSD and
> freebsd

At a very superficial level (i.e. my knowledge on this is not deep :-)

  o  Solaris is based on AT&T System V (R4)
  o  FreeBSD is based on BSD 4.4

However, earlier versions of SunOS were BSD based.

There are a number of good books that have a history of Unix, and that
can explain the differences between SysV4 and BSD. I rather like Richard
Stevens `Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment'.  The introduction
to the FreeBSD handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/) contains a brief
history of Unix (as it relates to FreeBSD).

Regards,

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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:31:38 +0800, Peter Kok wrote:

> I would like to know what is the different between Sun Solaris BSD and
> freebsd

I've never heard of Sun Solaris BSD. Could you provide a reference to
some document that describes it?

Solaris and FreeBSD are both UNIX-derived operating systems.

Solaris 2 is derived from System V Release 4 and Solaris 1, which was
derived from SunOS, which was derived from 4.1cBSD more than 15 years
ago.  So to say that modern-day Solaris is BSD is stretching things.
it's much more SysV than anything else.

Modern FreeBSD is derived from 4.4BSD-Lite 2.  It's probably the closest
thing to BSD that you can come by these days.

So what's the difference?

	Well, you don't have to pay to use FreeBSD.

	The full source code for FreeBSD is available for scrutiny and
	modification.

	FreeBSD does not run on Sun's computers.  Solaris does.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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i'm working on a project to impliment a multi-processor FreeBSD server for
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I was unable to install XFree using sysinstall (alreay post message to this regard on the stable lsit) so 
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I have seen these problems with Samba and FreeBSD since Samba version
2.04.  I used to get very good performance, and even used Samba to
demonstrate FreeBSD's superiority over Windows NT and Linux for file
serving to some clients, but this is not the case anymore.

I can get outstanding write performance, utilizing around 70% of my 100
meg ethernet hub by setting the recieve buffer to 262144 (performance
starts flattening around a 65k receive buffer though), but I can not get
write performance past about 300k, with high delays between packets. 
Setting any other socket options has not helped.  I've also tried
compiling with pgcc and egc 2.95.2 with a number of different compile
switches, but Samba is not very influenced by compiler choice, the
performance varies little.

An interesting observation is that Windows NT performance is not nearly
as poor, and can write to the FreeBSD server about twice as fast with
little delay.  The problems seems mostly with FreeBSD and Windows 98
(perhaps 95 as well?).

My hard drives bench at 19 megs per sec, so this is not a limiting
factor, and I believe the EtherExpress Pro100b driver I'm using is
decently stable and tested.

Any one able to offer more insight into this problem?  I think the Samba
team is not going to be much help as I don't think they are very happy
with FreeBSD breaking their MSG_WAITALL optimization from 2.0.5.  I'd
hate to see our platform becoming a poor choice for running Samba when
so many businesses are using it.

-
Nathan Kinsman

Rik van Mierlo wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Edirol wrote:
> 
> > I'm using 3.3-RELEASE with Samba 2.05 (installed from ports) and I notice
> > that there's a ~5sec delay in opening a file on the FBSD server from a
> > Win98SE machine sometimes.  My transfer speeds aren't affected however.
> >
> > I haven't tried Samba 2.06 yet though.
> >
> > - Will
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marty Cawthon <mrc@ChipChat.com>
> > To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Cc: <argyll@ChipChat.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:21 PM
> > Subject: SAMBA / 3.3-Stable / transfer delay
> >
> >
> > >   I am experiencing a "one-way delay" in file transfers from Microsoft
> > Clients
> > > (Windows 95 and Windows NT) to Samba.
> > >
> > > FreeBSD 3.3-Stable as of Oct 8 1999
> > > samba 2.0.5 installed from the ports collection
> > >   smb.conf includes this line:
> > >       socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY SO_SENDBUF=16384
> > SO_RCVBUF=16384
> > >   (originally it had just 'TCP_NODELAY'
> > >    but I added the others per suggestions found in on-line resources)
> > >
> > > Network is a 10/100 Mbps Bay Switch with all below running 100 Mbps
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Client                      Send 1MB to SAMBA      Receive 1MB from SAMBA
> > >                             copy e:\test\file u:\  copy u:\file e:\test
> > > ------------------------    ---------------------- ----------------------
> > >   Microsoft Windows 95      15 seconds             Instantaneous
> > >   Microsoft Windows NT4     15 seconds             Instantaneous
> > >   IBM OS/2 + TCP/IP 4.1     Instantaneous          Instantaneous
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >   (IBM OS/2 TCP/IP 4.1 is an optional IBM TCP/IP stack for OS/2
> > >    which IBM describes as a "BSD 4.3 stack")
> > >
> > >   I had mentioned this at FreeBSDCon, and several people had suggestions,
> > > most mentioned the "TCP_NODELAY" option.
> > >
> > >   I still see this delay.
> > > Do others run 3.3-Stable and Samba also see this type of delay?
> > > Are there other suggestions for solving this trouble?
> > >
> > > Marty Cawthon
> > > ChipChat
> > >
> The "one-way delay" turns out to be a two-way-delay. I experienced the same
> problems, but when I used smbclient to connect to a Windows NT4 box instead
> of the other way around, the put command was about 4 times slower than the
> get command. So it seems to me that putting a file is slower than getting a
> file. I don't know whether this is possible (isn't get the same as put?) but
> I hope this gives you another idea as to where to look for the problem.
> 
> -Rik van Mierlo
> -rik@ricardis.tudelft.nl
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Hello All

I encountered a problem using ftp to transfer file from window to
freebsd
All files are changed to captal letter

eg: index.htm to INDEX.HTM

all reference of file are wrong!!!

please teach me how to do.

thanks a lot

b. regards
Peter



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It's not clear what you are trying to do... did you create a
4Gb partition, or a 200Mb partition?

When you enter a number for the partition size, you enter in
in sectors, if you wanted a 200Mb partition you should have
specified the size as "200M" not "200" that would allocate
200 sectors (=100Kb)

Besides, I doubt 200Mb would be enough for *everything* (1
CD = 650Mb, and the dist is 4CDs = 4*650 = 2600Mb,
compressed).

Wht do you mean by the boot manager partition? The boot
manager does not requite a seperate partition (I think
OS/2's does, but i also think it's the only one who does).
You should create the partition you want to install freebsd
in, and then when you click `q` to signal you are done,
select the boot manager in the menu that would pop up.

--
Oren Sarig
sarig@bezeqint.net

----- Original Message -----
From: Arnold Shcherban <click2000usa@netscape.net>
To: <questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 2:41 AM
Subject: Installation


I've just received 4 Greenbay CD-ROMs won at online auction,
and immediately
started with installation. Created 2 installation diskettes,
booted the system from kernel, and then through mfs root got
into installation
phase (in novice mode).
Following the instructions, created Freebsd partition slice,
and tried to
create the boot manager partition, just to get not enough
space message.
Now, I have more than 4Gb of free space on my C: drive, so
how come the
installer couldn't allocate enough partition space if  all
it's needed is
about 200Mb for installing everything there is in FreeBsd ?

                I need your help, please,
                A. Shcherban.

PS. I've checked - the hardware is compatible.

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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:20:43 +0800, Peter Kok wrote:

> I encountered a problem using ftp to transfer file from window to
> freebsd
> All files are changed to captal letter
> 
> eg: index.htm to INDEX.HTM
> 
> all reference of file are wrong!!!

You'll probably find that, at a level lower than you've inspected, the
filenames are actually stored in uppercase.

See the ftp(1) manual page's description of the FTP ``case'' command.

Ciao,
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Hello Sheldon Hearn

Thanks for your help.

but it seems not to be valid from windows to unix!!!
it displayed as follows:

ftp> help
Commands may be abbreviated.  Commands are:

!               delete          literal         prompt          send
?               debug           ls              put             status
append          dir             mdelete         pwd             trace
ascii           disconnect      mdir            quit            type
bell            get             mget            quote           user
binary          glob            mkdir           recv            verbose
bye             hash            mls             remotehelp
cd              help            mput            rename
close           lcd             open            rmdir
ftp> help case
Invalid help command case.
ftp> case
Invalid command.


?????????




Sheldon Hearn wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:20:43 +0800, Peter Kok wrote:
>
> > I encountered a problem using ftp to transfer file from window to
> > freebsd
> > All files are changed to captal letter
> >
> > eg: index.htm to INDEX.HTM
> >
> > all reference of file are wrong!!!
>
> You'll probably find that, at a level lower than you've inspected, the
> filenames are actually stored in uppercase.
>
> See the ftp(1) manual page's description of the FTP ``case'' command.
>
> Ciao,
> Sheldon.
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On 15-Nov-99 youlgok@attglobal.net wrote:
> Thank you for your reply.  After installing 3.3 by FTP, I tried to
> install
> the gnupg-1.0.0 by compilation, because I couldn't find its package.  I
> didn't touch any part of the system.  I also checked the path and
> /usr/bin is placed ahead of /usr/local/bin.
> What should I do now?




cd /usr/ports/security/gnupg
make 
make install

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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:41:46 +0800, Peter Kok wrote:

> but it seems not to be valid from windows to unix!!!

When you asked your question, you said:

	"using ftp to transfer file from window to freebsd"

Are you using the Windows FTP client to transfer files _from_ a FreeBSD
host _to_ a Windows host, or are you using the FreeBSD ftp client to
transfer files _from_ a Windows host _to_ a FreeBSD host?

If the former, then you should be asking Microsoft people how to do
this, although my advice would be to get a real Windows FTP client like
WS_FTP from http://www.winfiles.com/ .

If the latter, then the FTP ``case'' command is what you want.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Hi


I am having troubles with the pcmcia card I have

I get the following error.

pccard[54]:Card "DIGITAL"("DEPCM-XX") [R01] [(null)] matched "DIGITAL"
("DEPCM") [(null)] [(null)]
pccard[54]: Ether=00:00:00:88:00:00
pccard[54]: Invalid MAC address. Check "ehter" field of
"DIGITAL"("DEPCM") [(null)] [(null)]


how can I find out what that "ether" field needs for the pccard to work?



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On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 06:58:49AM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> I was unable to install XFree using sysinstall (alreay post message to this regard on the stable lsit) so 
> I installed it from ports.
> 
> I can't find XF86Setup in the bin directory. Is it in a different port?

The port installs XF86Setup in /usr/X11R6/bin

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Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 3.3 STABLE on two boxes, mounting NFS exports from
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When a server reboots, the client stays stuck.
A tcpdump on the link shows no response to the client's NFS packets.
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The nfs mounts are done through amd with the following map:

/defaults	type==nfs;\
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	host!=tantale;type:=nfs

Amd show the host as down, but it isn't obviously.

On a related topic, how can I see which *NFS* options were used to mount
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I've used sysinstall before to browse the handbook in HTML.  Lately, when
i try the docs, it tries to access the website, not the CDROM version,
even when I select CDROM.  If anyone has any ideas why this doesn't work,
please let me know.  The cdrom can be mounted and read otherwise, but
this is inconvenient when i am not connected to the site.

Meanwhile, 2 questions, until I get my docs working... 

1.  What was the name of the alternate boot manager, and does it support
splash screens?

2.  I have seen supfiles that allow me to choose only certain collections,
but for docs I am getting every language.  The example only shows
'docs-all' and doesn't list separate language collections.  Can i find
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I think its 2.2.8

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Joe Schwartz wrote:

> 
> Folks,
> 
> What is the oldest release that is Y2K compliant?
> 
> I've got a bunch of FreeBSD Internet servers that are as 
> old as release 2.6. Am I OK or do they need to be brought 
> forward?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe S.
> 
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Even with ypbind -ypset, if I try a manual call to ypset it pauses for
ages then says its can set it because it didnt receive the requestr on a
reserved port - so how does one make it a reserved port?



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The problem ended up being that the install.sh script that comes with the
cdrom doesn't include the "tools" portion of the source in the default
"all" category.

---------
if [ "$1" = "all" ]; then
        dists="base bin contrib etc games gnu include lib libexec release sbin share sys ubin usbin"
---------

This seems odd and confusing to me considering that the very first part of
any install/upgrade configuration is to use some of the scripts in the
"tools" section.

In any case, we were able to "install.sh tools" and raved till dawn.

Chris

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999, Brooks Davis wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 13, 1999 at 11:40:41PM -0500, Mark Stosberg wrote:
> > 
> > Thank you for your pointers on upgrading to 3.3. We have now started the
> > upgrade process tonight and are getting a mysterious error when running
> > make upgrade. We immediately get an error that it can't find the file
> >    ${.CURDIR}/tools/tools/upgrade/doupgrade.sh 
> > 
> > We can't find that file (or even that directory!) anywhere in our source
> > try, or even on the CD ROM. This seems very weird. 
> > 
> >  Am I missing something obvious here?
> 
> It sounds like you don't have 3.x sources installed.  If you have 3.x
> sources you should have a /usr/src/tools/tools/upgrade directory.
> cvsweb[1] indicates that it should appear in any 3.x or -current source
> tree.
> 
> -- Brooks
> 


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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, John wrote:

> Hey all...
> 
> I've been making a whole mess of changes to my system lately, and
> something, somewhere has risen up to give me troubles :)
> 
> In the past week, I've installed and configured named and apache (with
> modssl).  Everything was going great until i rebooted last night.
> 
> I wanted to hop onto irc for a bit (using ircII), and well, I'm getting a
> response from the servers saying that I need to have my sysadmin install
> identd.  The thing is that I've had pidentd installed for 2+ months now and
> it WAS working flawlessly.  I'm running v3.3 right now.  Nothign I found in
> the archives seemed to be the cure.

First make sure identd is set up properly in /etc/inetd.conf and that
the internal "fake" identd is turned off.  If the inetd entry is
correct, remove identd and then recompile it cleanly from the ports
collection.

> Beyond that, I had a problem with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh.  From what
> I understand, the modssl package sets up the SSL portion of apache.  The
> keys, however, require a passphrase in order to activate them.  When the
> system reboots and the apache.sh script tries to run, the out (per the
> script) gets directed to /dev/null.  One of the thigns that it redirects is
> the prompt asking for the passphrase.  Is there a way around this?

Re-create the keys using null (empty) passphrases and you'll never be
asked to enter a passphrase.



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Note: I've posted this message once, but doesn't seem to have appeared on
the mailing list, so here it is again...


Hi,

I recently plugged an HP LaserJet 4000TN printer to my FreeBSD box (running
3.3-stable) and tried printing Greg Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD" errata in
it's Postsript form using the command:

cat errata.ps > /dev/lpt0

Everything went fine. But when I turned on the lpd daemon and issued the
command:

lpr errata.ps

it still printed fine, but the printer spit out an extra blank page at the
end of the print job. I tried printing  other Postscript- and PCL6-format
files, and I always get an extra blank page if using lpr.

I used the default /etc/printcap file. After doing a search in the mailing
list archives, I found a reference to an ':ff=\004:\' command I could insert
in the printcap section for my printer. It fixed the problem.

My question is this: why does lpr seem to print an extra blank page by
default compared to just using 'cat errata.ps > /dev/lpt0'? And what exatcly
does 'ff=\004' mean? Is it some kind of escape code? Does it have to be
'activated' for all printers using lpr, or just some?

Thanks for any reply, and I hope I haven't asked a question that's already
been asked too many times...

-Martin




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Michael,

Thank you for your offer of help. Here is the information you require.

Michael Kennett wrote:

> I don't know what your problem is exactly, but could you provide the
> following information:
> 
>
>  1)  The output of the 'hostname' command

sparky.at.home

>  2)  The contents of the /etc/hosts file

etc/hosts :
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# local machines:
127.0.0.1		localhost
192.168.120.1		sparky.at.home		sparky
192.168.120.101		rics.at.home		rics
192.168.120.102		ians.at.home		ians
192.168.120.103		rics2.at.home		rics2
# Netscape and Outlook sometimes want to know about mail servers and
newsgroups at the ISP:
195.166.128.81		mail.force9.net
195.166.128.82		mail.force9.net
195.166.128.37		news.force9.net		usenet.force9.net	usenet.plus.net.uk
195.166.128.38		news.force9.net		usenet.force9.net	usenet.plus.net.uk
# Netscape (4.06-4.7) does a DNS lookup at boot time for the following:
198.41.0.6		internic.net
195.44.254.22		home6.netscape.com	home21.netscape.com
wwwld-uk.netscape.com
207.200.75.200		home.netscape.com
207.200.75.204		messenger.netscape.com
# Netscape also needs this for Real Player:
208.147.89.96		hoobajube.real.com
208.147.89.154		rmapup.real.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 
>  3)  The contents of the /etc/namedb/named.conf file

/etc/namedb/named.conf :
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
options {
	directory "/etc/namedb";
};

logging {
	channel my_syslog {
		syslog daemon;
		severity info;
	};
	channel my_queries {
		file "/var/log/named/named-queries.log" versions 4 size 100k;
		severity dynamic;
		print-time yes;
		print-category yes;
		print-severity yes;
	};
	channel my_stats {
		file "/var/log/named/named-stats.log" versions 3 size 10k;
		severity debug 1;
		print-time yes;
	};
	channel my_logs {
		file "/var/log/named/named.log" versions 3 size 200k;
		severity debug 1;
		print-time yes;
		print-category yes;
		print-severity yes;

	};

	category default	{ default_syslog; my_logs;};
	category panic		{ default_syslog; };
	category queries	{ my_queries; };
	category statistics	{ my_stats; };
};

zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" in {
	type master;
	file "db.127.0.0";
	notify no;
};

zone "." in {
	type hint;
	file "db.cache";
};

zone "at.home" in {
	type master;
	file "db.athome";
	notify no;
};

zone "120.168.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA" in {
	type master;
	file "db.192.168.120";
	notify no;
};

zone "ispaddr" in {
	type master;
	file "db.ispaddr";
	notify no;
};

zone "0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA" in {
	type master;
	file "db.10.0.0";
	notify no;
};

zone "local" in {
	type master;
	file "db.local";
	notify no;
};
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>  4)  The value of the environment variable HOSTALIASES  (if set)

Nothing set for this.


>  5)  Do you have the 'enable dns' command in your ppp.conf file?
>      (assuming you are using ppp)

No. Here's an extract from ppp.conf:
ppp.conf :
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

##############################################################################
# DEFAULT : used by all configurations
##############################################################################
default:
 set device /dev/cuaa1
 set speed 115200
 disable pred1
 deny pred1
 disable lqr
 deny lqr
 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK
ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT"
 set redial 3 1
 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command


##############################################################################
# DEMAND    : used for "Dial-on-demand" connectivity
#           : $ ppp -auto demand (for this machine only)
#           : $ ppp -auto -alias demand (network/gateway access: all
machines)
##############################################################################
demand:
 set server /var/run/internet "" 0177
 set authname [deleted out]
 set authkey [deleted out]
 set phone "[deleted out]"
 set timeout 180
 set openmode active
 accept chap
 allow users ric ian
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
 add 0 0 HISADDR
 enable iface-alias
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


ppp.linkup :
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#MYADDR:
 delete ALL
 add 0 0 HISADDR

demand:
 delete ALL
 add 0 0 HISADDR
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


ppp.linkdown :
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MYADDR:
 delete ALL
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0
 add 0 0 10.0.0.2

demand:
 iface clear

dynamic-alias-auto:
 iface clear
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Michael, you have quite a job on your hands with all this. I do so very
much appreciate you generous offer of help. I look forward to hearing
from you when time permits.


Kind regards,


Ric


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I think this is proving to be a subject that perhaps no-one is able to
help me with. I've tried posting this question before, leaving a decent
interval between postings, so I have given it a good innings. This will
be my last shot with this one.

If the only solution is to pull the card, can anyone recommend a
suitable SCSI card to replace it with? The card is used only to drive a
SCSI DAT tape for backups (Standard 50 pin D-type SCSI connector) so
speed is not important.


Ric

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have a 2nd FreeBSD box that I use for testing configurations before
applying them to the main server. The FreeBSD installation is the 2nd
(dedicated) disk; disk 1 is Windows 98.

I have just installed an  "Iwill 2930C SCSI Adapter" which seems to be a
clone of the Advansys ASC3050 SCSI card. On boot up I now get
configuration errors and a panic, followed by reboot.

The BIOS reports the following at boot-up:
Onboard USB Controller                        Slot 1 Ethernet, IRQ11
Slot 2 SCSI, IRQ10                            Onboard IDE, IRQ 14,15
AGP VGA, IRQ11

I have tried the following:

Reinstalled FreeBSD 3.2 in the 2nd drive (there's nothing of importance
on the drive, just the result of previous hacks...), but similar error
messages occur. Here they are:

adv0: <Advansys ASC3050 Ultra SCSI Controller> rev 0x03 on int a IRQ10
on pci0.9.0
adv0: Warning EEPROM checksum mismatch. Using default device parameters
adv0: WARNING! Failure writing to EEPROM.
adv0: Advansys Ultra SCSI Host Adapter, SCSI ID 7, queue depth 240
...
adv0 not found at 0x330 (this appears only if adv0 is NOT deselected in
visual config)

Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle down...
panic adv_qdone: completed scsiq with unknown status

Syncing disks...
Reboot....... etc

Irrespective of whether adv0 is deselected in the visual config, I
cannot get the reinstall to work. It seems the GENERIC kernel is
configured with both adv0 and adw0 by default.

The only thing I've spotted is that FreeBSD uses a different IRQ to that
reported by the BIOS; the visual config screen does not allow me to
change IRQs nor Port addresses for this device, just the flags.

I have checked through the mailing archives, but didn't find much except
that the Advansys cards have only more recently been supported (not so,
apparently in 1997). There was one mailing with a mention about CAM
devices (whatever these are) and some references to CAM devices in the
release notes to 3.2 - but in the section indicating that the Advansys
cards seem to be supported.

Anyone know what the problem is and how to get it configured?

Many thanks for your help.

Ric


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Hi !

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On 15 Nov, Leon Breedt wrote:
> Can anyone give me an idea of what's happening here?
> 
> riven($:leon) ssh leon@ra
> leon@ra's password: load: 0.17  cmd: ssh1 339 [piperd] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 920k
> 
> After I type my password I get that load: line.  It works sometimes, 
> however.

Are you typing this in Eterm? Any time a program running in an Eterm
asks for user input, it does this. Not sure why, but if you push ^D
twice whenever it happens, it will go away and the program will get on
with its business. An explanation or permanent fix would be very
welcome, though.

-- 
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I have seen these problems with Samba and FreeBSD since Samba version
2.04.  I used to get very good performance, and even used Samba to
demonstrate FreeBSD's superiority over Windows NT and Linux for file
serving to some clients, but this is not the case anymore.

I can get outstanding write performance, utilizing around 70% of my 100
meg ethernet hub by setting the recieve buffer to 262144 (performance
starts flattening around a 65k receive buffer though), but I can not get
write performance past about 300k, with high delays between packets. 
Setting any other socket options has not helped.  I've also tried
compiling with pgcc and egc 2.95.2 with a number of different compile
switches, but Samba is not very influenced by compiler choice, the
performance varies little.

An interesting observation is that Windows NT performance is not nearly
as poor, and can write to the FreeBSD server about twice as fast with
little delay.  The problems seems mostly with FreeBSD and Windows 98
(perhaps 95 as well?).

My hard drives bench at 19 megs per sec, so this is not a limiting
factor, and I believe the EtherExpress Pro100b driver I'm using is
decently stable and tested.

Any one able to offer more insight into this problem?  I think the Samba
team is not going to be much help as I don't think they are very happy
with FreeBSD breaking their MSG_WAITALL optimization from 2.0.5.  I'd
hate to see our platform becoming a poor choice for running Samba when
so many businesses are using it.

-
Nathan Kinsman

Rik van Mierlo wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Edirol wrote:
> 
> > I'm using 3.3-RELEASE with Samba 2.05 (installed from ports) and I notice
> > that there's a ~5sec delay in opening a file on the FBSD server from a
> > Win98SE machine sometimes.  My transfer speeds aren't affected however.
> >
> > I haven't tried Samba 2.06 yet though.
> >
> > - Will
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marty Cawthon <mrc@ChipChat.com>
> > To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Cc: <argyll@ChipChat.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:21 PM
> > Subject: SAMBA / 3.3-Stable / transfer delay
> >
> >
> > >   I am experiencing a "one-way delay" in file transfers from Microsoft
> > Clients
> > > (Windows 95 and Windows NT) to Samba.
> > >
> > > FreeBSD 3.3-Stable as of Oct 8 1999
> > > samba 2.0.5 installed from the ports collection
> > >   smb.conf includes this line:
> > >       socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY SO_SENDBUF=16384
> > SO_RCVBUF=16384
> > >   (originally it had just 'TCP_NODELAY'
> > >    but I added the others per suggestions found in on-line resources)
> > >
> > > Network is a 10/100 Mbps Bay Switch with all below running 100 Mbps
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Client                      Send 1MB to SAMBA      Receive 1MB from SAMBA
> > >                             copy e:\test\file u:\  copy u:\file e:\test
> > > ------------------------    ---------------------- ----------------------
> > >   Microsoft Windows 95      15 seconds             Instantaneous
> > >   Microsoft Windows NT4     15 seconds             Instantaneous
> > >   IBM OS/2 + TCP/IP 4.1     Instantaneous          Instantaneous
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >   (IBM OS/2 TCP/IP 4.1 is an optional IBM TCP/IP stack for OS/2
> > >    which IBM describes as a "BSD 4.3 stack")
> > >
> > >   I had mentioned this at FreeBSDCon, and several people had suggestions,
> > > most mentioned the "TCP_NODELAY" option.
> > >
> > >   I still see this delay.
> > > Do others run 3.3-Stable and Samba also see this type of delay?
> > > Are there other suggestions for solving this trouble?
> > >
> > > Marty Cawthon
> > > ChipChat
> > >
> The "one-way delay" turns out to be a two-way-delay. I experienced the same
> problems, but when I used smbclient to connect to a Windows NT4 box instead
> of the other way around, the put command was about 4 times slower than the
> get command. So it seems to me that putting a file is slower than getting a
> file. I don't know whether this is possible (isn't get the same as put?) but
> I hope this gives you another idea as to where to look for the problem.
> 
> -Rik van Mierlo
> -rik@ricardis.tudelft.nl
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My smbclient xfers to a remote machine were abysmal, too,
until I tried 

smbclient '\\whatever\disk\' -U foo -I whatever -b 1960

and then I got ~750k.

bigger -b (buffer) sizes slowed it down.

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On Thursday, 11 November 1999 at 17:28:52 +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Thursday, 11 November 1999 at 11:03:38 -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
>>> In the last episode (Nov 11), Jonathon McKitrick said:
>>>> So what makes sense for keeping time on a laptop with a PP connection
>>>> once a day?
>>>
>>> xntpd :)  It can maintain correct time even if it can only contact its
>>> time source for a couple hours each day.  I believe it needs about 1/2
>>> hour of continuous connect time to synch after a disconnect.
>>
>> Fine, but that's a lot longer than ntpdate needs.  In addition, it
>> will keep trying to establish contact, which can be undesirable.
>> ntpdate is the obvious choice for a dialup connection; you can put it
>> in the linkup script and it will set the date even before you know
>> you're connected.
>>
>>>> I tried setting it once, and ended up with GMT (Zulu Time) and it
>>>> took me a while to get the zone right.  Now i just have a little
>>>> script called jtime that i run whenever that calles ntpdate.  Does
>>>> this make sense?
>>>
>>> xntpd and ntpdate both set the time in the same way.  You must have
>>> had some other timezone problem.
>>
>> Right, this issue has nothing to do with ntp.  Check your
>> /etc/localtime file.  It should be a copy of your local time zone file
>> in the /usr/share/zoneinfo hierarchy.
>
> I have a one-line script that i call from root when i am connected.  To
> run this command or ntpdate directly, all i need to do is include that
> line in ppp.linkup?  I thought ppp.linkup was commands specific to ppp?
> How do i distinguish calls to an external command?

You can include shell commands in ppp.linkup by preceding them with an
exclamation mark.  See /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.linkup.sample:

  #You may want to execute a script after connecting.  This script can do
  # nice things such as kick off "sendmail -q", "popclient my.isp" and
  # "slurp -d news".  It can be passed MYADDR, HISADDR and INTERFACE
  # as arguments too - useful for informing a DNS of your assigned IP.
  #
  # You may also want some sound effects....
  #
  pmdemand:
   !bg /etc/ppp/ppp.etherup.pmdemand
   ! sh -c "cat /etc/ppp/linkup.au >/dev/audio"

Greg
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On Friday, 12 November 1999 at 20:48:54 +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
>> Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, then,let's get this started right!  ;-)
>>> Just what *is* the best unix mail client?  I use pine, even though i know
>>> it's for neophytes.  Mutt seems like to much trouble unless you really
>>> need threads.
>>
>> I check for a thread before I ever reply to an e-mail. I see far too
>> many replies because people are processing the list mail serially. The
>> problem is answered on Saturday but we see responses until the next
>> Wednesday. This isn't bad but it does increases the noise level in the
>> list.

Correct.  One of the recommendations in my weekly posting is to wait
to see what other people have said.

>> The problem with Ariel's e-mail, which prompted the original
>> comment, is white space. You have it but he doesn't. I don't think
>> that depends on the mail program but the operator. You need to make
>> your replies stand out from the quoted material. When you don't use
>> white space (a blank line), some one reading your reply can't tell if
>> your response is a continuation of a folded line from Outlook Express
>> or new material. I guess some mailer's make it easier than others. I
>> don't use their defaults anyway and so it doesn't matter which one I
>> use as long as I can sort by thread.
>>
> So you think mutt is pretty easy to use once you get the hang of it?

Speaking for myself, definitely.  I get about 800 messages a day, and
I try to skim through them all.  The threading makes it possible.
It's also the reason why I will delete messages unread if the Subject:
line doesn't catch my eye.

> And worth the trouble as well?

With a web-based or GUI mailer I would never get through the
messages.  The alternative would be to unsubscribe from a number of
lists.

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when i installed it, it defaulted to csh. yuck. so i
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I've got the docs working... my own stupid mistake  ;-)
But at least i figured it out on my own.  But I still haven't foundthe
answers to the questions yet.
On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

>I've used sysinstall before to browse the handbook in HTML.  Lately, when
>i try the docs, it tries to access the website, not the CDROM version,
>even when I select CDROM.  If anyone has any ideas why this doesn't work,
>please let me know.  The cdrom can be mounted and read otherwise, but
>this is inconvenient when i am not connected to the site.
>
>Meanwhile, 2 questions, until I get my docs working... 
>
>1.  What was the name of the alternate boot manager, and does it support
>splash screens?
>
>2.  I have seen supfiles that allow me to choose only certain collections,
>but for docs I am getting every language.  The example only shows
>'docs-all' and doesn't list separate language collections.  Can i find
>this list anywhere?
>
>-jonathon
>
>
>

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Steve Kreha
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Subject:  question regarding adaptec 1520 SCSI card

Hi,
 I hope this is the correct place for a question of this nature. If not
please let me know where I should direct the email.
  I hope you can help. I am upgrading from FreeBSD 2.2 to 3.2.2. The 2.2
release had a driver (AIC0) and support for an adaptec 152x (AHA1520) SCSI
card. It appears that 3.2.2 does not have this same driver (my system
doesn't find the CDROM). Do you know if this is true and if so are there
any plans to have
FreeBSD support the AIC0 driver.

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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:46:57 +0100, Sebestyen Zoltan wrote:

>  I would like to know if you have some idea what to do with a letter of
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote:

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Ariel Burbaickij <Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de> writes:

> Tried to use cvsup
> Got:cannot get IP address of my own host - is its hostname correct?
> response from ifconfig tun0
> is:flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1524
> inet 134.176.189.46 --> 134.176.188.50 netmask 0xffffff00(ISP uses dynamic
> adresses)
> Net applications (irc,ftp,ssh,www)ru nso far without any troubles.
> I set my hostname deliberatly to Ariel.zhestianka.de(default was
> myname.mydomain.org) so i thought it is nothing so critical about it,is it
> not?
> 
> Question:How can the trouble be solved?
> 
> Regards,
> Ariel Burbaickij

You have probably forgotten to change your host name somewhere.  Those
net applications you mentioned (ftp, telnet, etc) are used on _your_
host, or other hosts which resolve correctly over the PPP link.

What happens when you do?

	% ping ariel

and what happens when you do?

	% ping ariel.zhestianka.de

Do both of these names resolve to 127.0.0.1, or your /etc/hosts is a
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To whom it may concern:

I am currently a Linux user, but I am also technically curious about=20
all operating systems, so I will soon by trying FreeBSD. What would=20
really be helpful to me is a comparison of FreeBSD vs. Linux. Other=20
than for curiosity's sake, why should I give FreeBSD a try? What makes=20
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I am currently a Linux user, but I am also technically curious about
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Hi steve,

> I hope this is the correct place for a question of this nature. If not
>please let me know where I should direct the email.
>  I hope you can help. I am upgrading from FreeBSD 2.2 to 3.2.2. The 2.2
>release had a driver (AIC0) and support for an adaptec 152x (AHA1520) SCSI
>card. It appears that 3.2.2 does not have this same driver (my system
>doesn't find the CDROM). Do you know if this is true and if so are there
>any plans to have

How do you have the controller defined within your kernel?  I took a look
at my LINT file (for 3.3), and it shows:

# aic: Adaptec 152x
controller      aic0    at isa? port ? cam irq ?

I believe this might be slightly different for 3.2, so you might want to
look at your own LINT file (/sys/i386/conf/LINT).  Also, is your CDROM the
only device on that SCSI card? Or is are there other devices as well?  And
if there are, are they working correctly?

--John




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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, John wrote:
> My "flawless" installation of named seems to have some bugs, but I think
> they're "user error"... upon bootup, I get the following messages:
> 
> merlin# Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: reloading nameserver
> Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:64: syntax error
> near zo
> ne
> Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:97: cannot
> redefine zone
>  '75.175.128.in-addr.arpa' class 1
> Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: /etc/namedb/named.conf:107: cannot
> redefine zon
> e '75.175.128.in-addr.arpa' class 1
> Nov 14 23:08:42 merlin named[394]: Ready to answer queries.Nov: No match.
> 
> Seems easy enough to trackdown, rite?  Well, this is where the text is
> tripping up:
> 
> The syntax error near line 64:
> 
> //};
> 
> zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" {
>         type master;
>         file "s/named.localhost.rev";
>         };
> 
> I don't see a syntax error?

The error is probably earlier in the file.  Check your last few
uncommented lines before this point.

> As for the "can't redefine zones", here are examples of my zones.  Are
> these allowed:  Please recall that I'm planning on setting up 3 domains on
> a single IP.  In the examples, taking 1.2.3.4 to be my IP and 192.168.1.*
> to be my internal subnet.  Given that there are 3 domains, are the 2nd and
> third zones for reverse IP's needed, or is there something to do inside the
> single reverse to make it happen
> 
> zone "foobar1.com" {
>         type master;
>         file "foobar1.com";
>         };
> 
> zone "3.2.1.in-addr.arpa" {
>         type master;
>         file "foobar1.com.rev";
>         };
> 
> zone "1.168.192.in-addr.arpa" {
>         type master;
>         file "internal.rev";
>         };
> 
> zone "foobar2.com" {
>         type master;
>         file "foobar2.com";
>         };
> 
> zone "3.2.1.in-addr.arpa" {
>         type master;
>         file "foobar2.com.rev";
>         };

Well  you just tried to redefine 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa.

If you want/*need* to delegate less than a /24 see
draft-ietf-cidrd-classless-inaddr-01.txt (I think there's
a newer release out)

From the description of what you want to do there is no reason
for you to try and maintain separate reverse zones for those
domains.

Dan
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> I've got the docs working... my own stupid mistake  ;-)
> But at least i figured it out on my own.  But I still haven't foundthe
> answers to the questions yet.
> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> >I've used sysinstall before to browse the handbook in HTML.  Lately, when
> >i try the docs, it tries to access the website, not the CDROM version,
> >even when I select CDROM.  If anyone has any ideas why this doesn't work,
> >please let me know.  The cdrom can be mounted and read otherwise, but
> >this is inconvenient when i am not connected to the site.
> >
> >Meanwhile, 2 questions, until I get my docs working... 
> >
> >1.  What was the name of the alternate boot manager, and does it support
> >splash screens?

The alternative boot manager is osbsbeta; there's an older version too.
It's in the tools directory and can also be installed from dos.

My understanding is that splash screens are not a function of the boot
manager, and should work with any boot manager.

> >2.  I have seen supfiles that allow me to choose only certain collections,
> >but for docs I am getting every language.  The example only shows
> >'docs-all' and doesn't list separate language collections.  Can i find
> >this list anywhere? 

If you get docs-all and look at some of the Makefiles, you'll see
the list.  I'm not sure exactly how you'd cvsup one language; you
might see what happens with docs-en (English).

Annelise
> >
> >-jonathon
> >
> >
> >
> 
> -jonathon
> 
> 
> 
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  Dear sirs,

  I have a problem.
  I need cyrillic fonts for encoding cp1251 to install on my X Windows.
  The FreeBSD package have port for russian cyrillic for encoding KOI8.
  This is not what I want.

  What to do?


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We're looking at installing the coldfusion 'stub' for apache...
It comes as a linux library (libcf.a) that gets compiled
with a configurable wrapper into an apache module (.so).

Is at all possible to get this working under freebsd?
Is it possible to use a linux library to compile a module that 
will run under freebsd apache?

I think it might work if we ran linux apache under the linux 
emulation (?), but I don't want to do that. ;-)

Thanks.

- Rob


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Hello, folks,

I run into a problem from time to time.  While I've always been able
to scrounge a solution, I'm sure there's a generic, "proper" answer.

How can I find out what package/port a given library is part of?

For example, sometimes when building software, I get an error like:

configure:5765: checking for libIDL-config
configure:5800: checking for libIDL - version >= 0.6.3
(end of "config.log")
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

The exact error isn't important.  (For anyone who cares, I'm building
Mozilla.)

Surely there's some way to properly identify what software package
this library belongs to?  Locate and grep have given me a good idea,
but there must be a proper, elegant, Unixly way to identify it?

Thanks,
==ml




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Flavio Alberto wrote:
> 
> Where I can find the female BSD Daemon images?

There is no such thing as a Female Daemon. :-)

Either she is a Daem (tm) like Darcy
<http://www.daemonnews.org/199904/darby.html>

or

she is the Daemonatrix (tm) like the one drawn on the T-shirt for Defcon
6.

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This is just a follow up to the aic0 driver issue...

It is my understanding that support for the aic0 driver under
3.3 was recently placed into the 3-STABLE branch at the
end of October / beginning of November.  The outlying
issue was that the driver was not camified...that is,
3.x uses camcontrol for the SCSI device drivers and
the aic0 driver was not converted yet--until just
recently.

There is a big push in the mobile community for the
aic0 driver because this allows laptop users have
support again for their SCSI devices.  Mainly, users
who have the Adaptec 1460 PC Card.

While I do not have a 1520 SCSI card, I do have
a 1460 PC Card.  The aic0 driver will compile, but
I have not yet been able to get the pccardd daemon
to work yet.

Finally, you can get the aic0 code by CVSing to
3-STABLE.

I personally use the cvsup program on the workstations
(via ethernet) as well as on my IBM laptop (via ppp) to
get the current stable code of the 3.x branch.

>>> John <papalia@UDel.Edu> 11/15/99 10:09AM >>>
Hi steve,

> I hope this is the correct place for a question of this nature. If not
>please let me know where I should direct the email.
>  I hope you can help. I am upgrading from FreeBSD 2.2 to 3.2.2. The 2.2
>release had a driver (AIC0) and support for an adaptec 152x (AHA1520) =
SCSI
>card. It appears that 3.2.2 does not have this same driver (my system
>doesn't find the CDROM). Do you know if this is true and if so are there
>any plans to have

How do you have the controller defined within your kernel?  I took a look
at my LINT file (for 3.3), and it shows:

# aic: Adaptec 152x
controller      aic0    at isa? port ? cam irq ?

I believe this might be slightly different for 3.2, so you might want to
look at your own LINT file (/sys/i386/conf/LINT).  Also, is your CDROM the
only device on that SCSI card? Or is are there other devices as well?  And
if there are, are they working correctly?

--John




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Finally got a scsi 50 pin card working.  Trying to use an old apple scsi
drive to
back up files before upgrading 2.2.0
get this in dmesg when new kernel boots
------------------------------------------------------------
aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 5 on isa
aha0 waiting for scsi devices to settle
(aha0:1:0): "unknown unknown ????" type 13 fixed SCSI 0
uk0(aha0:1:0): Unknown
(aha0:1:1): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:25,0 Logical unit not supported
(aha0:1:2): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:25,0 Logical unit not supported
(aha0:1:3): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:25,0 Logical unit not supported
(aha0:1:4): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:25,0 Logical unit not supported
(aha0:1:5): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:25,0 Logical unit not supported
(aha0:1:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:25,0 Logical unit not supported
(aha0:1:7): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:25,0 Logical unit not supported
________________________
is it possible to use this scsi drive with FreeBSD
FreeBSD 0s 2.2.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Nov 14 22:43:06
MST 1999     root@matachle:/usr/src/sys/compile/MATACHLE  i386
Thanks.
Roy mccrory@thuntek.net



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Well, i don't know offhand where there is a meaningful review , but check
freebsd.org/in the press for articles discussing the OS and also
daemonnews.org for some other advocacy articles.
In a nutshell, FreeBSD has a smaller user base, ports base, and hardware
support, but it is much more tightly integrated, refined, and tested.  It
is very stable, performs well under pressure and heavy loads, and 
this is important to some: is based on true Unix, rather than being a
workalike (Linux).  It has been said that every Linux distro is a
different OS, and this is actually true.  Each stores data in different
places, uses different ports and standards, even though most of the basics
apply.  This means unless you are willing to do a lot of free-time hacking
and mucking around, you pretty much need to pick one linux distro and
stick with it.  FreeBSD takes a little longer for those ports to come out,
but they are more stable,and integrated more easily into a very cohesive
system.  Also, IMHO, the directory structure makes much more sense.  Linux
wass completely incomprehensible to me.  FreeBSD is much less so
;-)

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 toby@m1soft.com wrote:

>To whom it may concern:
>
>I am currently a Linux user, but I am also technically curious about 
>all operating systems, so I will soon by trying FreeBSD. What would 
>really be helpful to me is a comparison of FreeBSD vs. Linux. Other 
>than for curiosity's sake, why should I give FreeBSD a try? What makes 
>FreeBSD worth my while? What does it do that Linux does not? What are 
>its advantages vs. Linux? Can you tell me where any non-biased reviews 
>exist?
>
>Thank you,
>toby@m1soft.com
>
>

-jonathon




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Hi Chris,

>> In the past week, I've installed and configured named and apache (with
>> modssl).  Everything was going great until i rebooted last night.
>> I wanted to hop onto irc for a bit (using ircII), and well, I'm getting a
>> response from the servers saying that I need to have my sysadmin install
>> identd.  The thing is that I've had pidentd installed for 2+ months now and
>> it WAS working flawlessly.  I'm running v3.3 right now.  Nothign I found in
>> the archives seemed to be the cure.
>
>First make sure identd is set up properly in /etc/inetd.conf and that
>the internal "fake" identd is turned off.  If the inetd entry is
>correct, remove identd and then recompile it cleanly from the ports
>collection.

identd is set up in /etc/inetd.conf as:
ident   stream  tcp     wait    kmem:kmem /usr/local/sbin/identd identd -w
-t120

i removed the install, and I did a new compile clean and from the ports
(did this both last night and today), issued a kill -HUP <pid of inetd> and
the same problem still exists - the irc servers still state I'm not running
identd.

What is the "fake" identd that you're referring to?  I have no instances of
identd running when issuing ps -auwx | grep ident

>> Beyond that, I had a problem with /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh.  From what
>> I understand, the modssl package sets up the SSL portion of apache.  The
>> keys, however, require a passphrase in order to activate them.  When the
>> system reboots and the apache.sh script tries to run, the out (per the
>> script) gets directed to /dev/null.  One of the thigns that it redirects is
>> the prompt asking for the passphrase.  Is there a way around this?
>
>Re-create the keys using null (empty) passphrases and you'll never be
>asked to enter a passphrase.

I tried to do that, but openssl apparently requires a minimum of 4
characters for the passphrase, so null didn't work.  There IS however a
portion of the mod_ssl faq which talks about removing the passphrase, and
leaving the key as plain text.  Not the safest thing to do, but I'm toying
with the idea....

Thanks again for the help!!!
--John


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I have the cvsup-mirror port up and running, mirroring the
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locally to check out ports/src trees. Works like a charm.

Now I would like to make an additional, non-FreeBSD collection
available on the same CVSup server. Can I do that, or will the
configuration be clobbered by the distrib.self collection? Just
what is contained in distrib.self anyway?

-- 
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Hello folks,

I have made a package of some Perl files which I would like to see in the
packages tree (as well as some other packages for  modules I plan to do).
How should I get my files to where they should go? I saw in the handbook to
uuencode the tgz and mail it using send-pr, but a) the uuencoded file is
larger than the tgz, and b) it is over 300k. So, do I just send that size
file to send-pr? I am assuming so, but hope someone can give me a difinitive
answer as how to do this, so I have it right the first time. Thanks.

Cheers,
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Juha Saarinen wrote:

> 	This was already addressed in one of the patches applied to the
> > 2.0.5a version in the ports.  But I am well aware of the bug as I had to
> > patch it on my system before it made it's way into the ported version.
> 
> Are you sure? It seems to be in the 2.0.5a ports still.
> 
> > 	I wasn't aware there was a 2.0.6 to be honest.  :)  Maybe they found
> > a better fix for it.
> 
> Almost. Now I get full speed copies from the server, but only a third of
> that to the server. It's an improvement, but...
> 
> > 	That should be fine.. you could try synching with the main site just
> > to see if there is a difference.
> 
> No diff. Still KDE 1.1.1 as far as I can see. Tried building the stuff
> manually, but was tripped up with the QT moc (meta object compiler) not
> doing its thing properly... think I need to start again. Sigh.

Ah, I forgot about that problem.  If memory serves me, you'll actually
need to deinstall all of the kde packages, delete the tarballs and
reinstall the kde11 metaport.

The problem is that all of the packages #1 show up as already being
installed, and i believe #2 the tarball names from 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 are
exactly the same.

-Chris

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- Juha
> 
> 



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  Anyone have some good pointers on how to setup the Win95/DOS 
clients to access the SAMBA-configured server?  I believe I 
configured SAMBA correctly but am unsure where to fill in the 
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Visite nuestro stand en Expo Comm'99 en el Expo Center Norte de S=E2o =
Paulo - SP del 9 al 12 Noviembre. Para mayor informaci=F3n rogamos =
visitar http://www.expocomm.com.br/

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sofisticada del mundo, optimizada para el transporte de se=F1ales de =
voz, datos, video e Internet en una infraestructura com=FAn que =
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=20
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latest fiber optic submarine network technology, complemented with =
terrestrial networks for the global operation.
For reservations, please register at =
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For aditional information, please contact Patricia Gomez via E-Mail at =
pgomez@globalcrossing.com or by phone at (+ 54 11) 4341-4638 or by fax =
at (+ 54 11) 4341-4639.

Visit our stand at Expo Comm'99 in Expo Center Norte of S=E2o Paulo - =
SP, November 9-12. For aditional information visit =
http://www.expocomm.com.br/.

Global Crossing Ltd. is building and operating the world's first =
independent global fiber optic platform for data, voice, video and =
Internet transmissions. The Global Crossing network will span four =
continents and address 80% of the world's international traffic.  For =
more information visit http://www.globalcrossing.com/


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Av. Alicia Moreau de Justo 1148
Suite B 409. (1107) Cap. Fed.
Rep=FAblica Argentina
Tel: (+ 54 11) 4341-4638
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To: John <papalia@UDel.Edu>
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Subject: Re: ident, apache, named, and probably more...
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On Mon, 15-Nov-1999 at 12:35:17 -0500, John wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> >> In the past week, I've installed and configured named and apache (with
> >> modssl).  Everything was going great until i rebooted last night.
> >> I wanted to hop onto irc for a bit (using ircII), and well, I'm getting a
> >> response from the servers saying that I need to have my sysadmin install
> >> identd.  The thing is that I've had pidentd installed for 2+ months now and
> >> it WAS working flawlessly.  I'm running v3.3 right now.  Nothign I found in
> >> the archives seemed to be the cure.
> >
> >First make sure identd is set up properly in /etc/inetd.conf and that
> >the internal "fake" identd is turned off.  If the inetd entry is
> >correct, remove identd and then recompile it cleanly from the ports
> >collection.
> 
> identd is set up in /etc/inetd.conf as:
> ident   stream  tcp     wait    kmem:kmem /usr/local/sbin/identd identd -w
> -t120

Mine is:

auth   stream  tcp  wait  root  /usr/local/sbin/identd  identd -w -t120

and it works perfectly. Don't know if this is the problem...


> i removed the install, and I did a new compile clean and from the ports
> (did this both last night and today), issued a kill -HUP <pid of inetd> and
> the same problem still exists - the irc servers still state I'm not running
> identd.
> 
> What is the "fake" identd that you're referring to?  I have no instances of
> identd running when issuing ps -auwx | grep ident

I think this refers to the new, internal identd in -current.

While we are at this: I would like to use this in -STABLE. I simply compiled
-current's inetd in -STABLE and it seems to work well. But, when enabling
the internal identd and testing it, it complains:

andre@voyager:/>telnet vo auth
Trying 192.168.128.1...
Connected to voyager.
Escape character is '^]'.
1008,1022
1008 , 1022 : ERROR : No such file or directory

Any hints what I am missing ?!?

	-Andre


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Subject: pg
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Hello Everyone:

Is there any package or program that displays text files as SystemV's pg
program does, under FreeBSD ?

I only found the more and cat programs.

I would appreciate any answer you could give .


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Thus spake Meltzer, Kevin (KMeltzer@USCO.com):

> I have made a package of some Perl files which I would like to see in the
> packages tree (as well as some other packages for  modules I plan to do).

Please read
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/porting.html

It's very easy, if you follow these instructions.

You should .tar.gz it and then put it somewhere as a distfile (Your
stuff I mean.).

Alex

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On 15-Nov-99 Richard Cotrina wrote:
> Hello Everyone:
> 
> Is there any package or program that displays text files as SystemV's pg
> program does, under FreeBSD ?
> 
> I only found the more and cat programs.
> 
> I would appreciate any answer you could give .
> 

install less from /usr/ports/misc

not an exact replacement but handles the backward scroll.

Regards,
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Nov 15 12:35:26 1999
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Don Read wrote:

> 
> On 15-Nov-99 Richard Cotrina wrote:
> > Hello Everyone:
> > 
> > Is there any package or program that displays text files as SystemV's pg
> > program does, under FreeBSD ?
> > 
> > I only found the more and cat programs.
> > 
> > I would appreciate any answer you could give .
> > 
> 
> install less from /usr/ports/misc
> 
> not an exact replacement but handles the backward scroll.

'more' is also capable of going backwards, hit 'u'.

however, i'm a 'less' fan myself. :)

-Alfred



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Hi,

I installed FreBSD 3.2 in a DTK computer, Intel MMX with an Spanish
Keyboard.

I have the problem that when I am working in a Xterm session suddenly the
keyboard stops working, does not answer me.

I thought it was a KDE problem, so I have just installed fvwm2, but the
problem remains.

When the keyboard stops working in fvwm2, I just reboot with the reset key
because SHIFT Key does not answer me.

Can you help me?

Thank you,
Ricardo Nunez
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Hello!

My mouse will not work under FreeBSD 3.3.  I've used the generic kernel =
and a custom kernel (source supplied).  The mouse works under Win98.  =
I've tried both PS/2 and serial mice.  I've supplied the rc.conf too.

The system will detect the psm0 device during boot, but I have to =
manually enable it using UserConfig every time (along with a few other =
devices).  During boot a few devices are disable by the kernel(?) using =
"di <device>" commands.  How do I get rid of these?

I was able to use the serial mouse with 2.2.5. and 2.2.8.


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From: Ben Smithurst <ben@scientia.demon.co.uk>
To: Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu>
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Annelise Anderson wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>
>>> 2.  I have seen supfiles that allow me to choose only certain
>>> collections, but for docs I am getting every language.  The
>>> example only shows 'docs-all' and doesn't list separate language
>>> collections.  Can i find this list anywhere?
>
> If you get docs-all and look at some of the Makefiles, you'll see the
> list.  I'm not sure exactly how you'd cvsup one language; you might
> see what happens with docs-en (English).

Just use a refuse file for that. e.g.,

ben@magnesium:/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/doc-all$ ls -l
total 137
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  127398 Nov 14 19:43 checkouts.cvs:.
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel      45 Nov 14 19:40 refuse.cvs:.
ben@magnesium:/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/doc-all$ cat refuse.cvs:. 
doc/es_*
doc/ja_*
doc/ru_*
doc/zh_*
doc/fr_*

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If the user you are logging in to IMAP with is registered as the Admin user
for Cyrus,
you will get all kinds of misbehaviour crap.

Admin users in Cyrus should not be pop/imap regular use mail users.

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Ray Kohler (ray@psu.edu) tapped away happily, and came up with:

> Are you typing this in Eterm? Any time a program running in an Eterm
> asks for user input, it does this. Not sure why, but if you push ^D
> twice whenever it happens, it will go away and the program will get on
> with its business. An explanation or permanent fix would be very
> welcome, though.

I've noticed this happening in Eterms I spawn with 'grun', the
applet to execute commands shipped with the gnomeutils port.

Eterms I execute via shortcuts set by e-conf (ie. straight from Enlightenment)
appear not to have this problem.

Weird :) Wonder if its because Enlightenment and Eterm are not the most
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Try using /stand/sysinstall as root to configure and enable your mouse.

Under the Main Menu choose:

Configure --> Mouse


Good Luck,


Richard

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Hello!

My mouse will not work under FreeBSD 3.3.  I've used the generic kernel and
a custom kernel (source supplied).  The mouse works under Win98.  I've tried
both PS/2 and serial mice.  I've supplied the rc.conf too.

The system will detect the psm0 device during boot, but I have to manually
enable it using UserConfig every time (along with a few other devices).
During boot a few devices are disable by the kernel(?) using "di <device>"
commands.  How do I get rid of these?

I was able to use the serial mouse with 2.2.5. and 2.2.8.


Thank you!


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If memory serves me right, "Jeffrey Bernt" wrote:
> Just curious as to if there is a way to get xdm to open a login/passwd box
> in a vnc window (remote login using vnc using X)

I never run vnc this way, but you might take a look at:

http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~andre/extern/ixvnc.htm

This link is from the VNC extas page at:

http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/extras.html

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> Ah, I forgot about that problem.  If memory serves me, you'll actually
> need to deinstall all of the kde packages, delete the tarballs and
> reinstall the kde11 metaport.
>
> The problem is that all of the packages #1 show up as already being
> installed, and i believe #2 the tarball names from 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 are
> exactly the same.

Success! I've got KDE 1.1.2 running, after I discovered that
/usr/ports/x11/kde11 actually contained the 1.1.2 "meta port". Well, I think
it's 1.1.2 because it has the new stuff like the Theme Manager etc. even
though KControl tells me I'm running version 1.1.1.

Might try to deinstall KDE completely and redo the whole thing.

-- Juha




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Hi,

We are heavy duty FreeBSD users, our main e-mail server for 8,000 users is
handled by FreeBSD.

After upgrading our mail server from 3.1 to 3.3, we noticed users
who have a login shell of /bin/sh with runaway "more" processes.

We can recreate the problem on a separate box...

- make the login shell on a user "/bin/sh"
- send the user an e-mail message of 50 lines or so
- login to the userid
- run "mail" and look at the message.  When it displays one screen, just
  walk away.
- from root, kill the "telnetd" process of the user.
- run "top" and see "more" hogging CPU.

The problem does not happen on 3.1
The problem does not happen with login shell /bin/csh

The problem occurs "naturally" on users who have logged in from far away,
and lose their connection somehow.  The keepalive eventually kills their
inactive telnetd, and then "more" starts burning.

We are, of course, exploring the possibility that we have caused the
problem with a config file, kernel setting, etc.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruce Campbell
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One thing to keep in mind, is that doing a "make deinstall" on the
meta-port doesn't actually deinstall all of the kde ports.  (I wish it
did).

You'll have to manually go through and de-install all of the kde stuff one
by one.

PIB in the ports collection, may assist you with this endevor.
-Chris

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Juha Saarinen wrote:

> > Ah, I forgot about that problem.  If memory serves me, you'll actually
> > need to deinstall all of the kde packages, delete the tarballs and
> > reinstall the kde11 metaport.
> >
> > The problem is that all of the packages #1 show up as already being
> > installed, and i believe #2 the tarball names from 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 are
> > exactly the same.
> 
> Success! I've got KDE 1.1.2 running, after I discovered that
> /usr/ports/x11/kde11 actually contained the 1.1.2 "meta port". Well, I think
> it's 1.1.2 because it has the new stuff like the Theme Manager etc. even
> though KControl tells me I'm running version 1.1.1.
> 
> Might try to deinstall KDE completely and redo the whole thing.
> 
> -- Juha
> 
> 



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Hi -
	I have got the most baffling problem.  I've set up a printer on
FreeBSD 3.2 and I can print just fine... and *I* can use lprm to cancel
jobs, but no one else can.  At first I thought perhaps it was because I am
in the "wheel" group, but I added someone else and they still can't.  root
can use lprm on anyone's jobs okay.

/var/log/lpd-errs doesn't report any errors at all.  Any idea what in the
world is going on?  Thanks!  (Please reply via email as well).


Info (I killed the lpd daemon so nothing actual prints, but I can test):

-------
root@ibc:~% cat /etc/printcap
lp|lw_pro|Laser_Writer_Pro_600:\
                                :sh:\
                                :if=/usr/local/libexec/if-lw_pro:\
                                :lp=/dev/lpt0:\
                                :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lw_pro:\
                                :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:

root@ibc:~% ls -ld /var/spool/lpd/lw_pro
drwxrwxr-x  2 daemon  daemon  512 Nov 12 12:46 /var/spool/lpd/lw_pro/
root@ibc:~% lpq
no entries
root@ibc:~% su - david
%id
uid=1003(david) gid=1003(david) groups=1003(david), 0(wheel)
%lpr /tmp/psfile
lpr: connect: No such file or directory
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
%lpq
Warning: no daemon present
Rank   Owner      Job  Files                                 Total Size
1st    david      24   /tmp/psfile                           137 bytes
%ls -l /var/spool/lpd/lw_pro/
total 4
-rw-rw----  1 daemon  daemon  147 Nov 12 13:02 cfA024ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com
-rw-rw----  1 david   daemon  137 Nov 12 13:02 dfA024ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com
-rw-rw-r--  1 root    daemon    5 Nov 12 12:32 lock
-rw-rw-r--  1 root    daemon   25 Nov 12 12:31 status
%lprm 24
cfA024ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com: Permission denied
%logout
root@ibc:~% su - philip
philip@ibc:~% id 
uid=1001(philip) gid=1001(philip) groups=1001(philip), 0(wheel)
philip@ibc:~% lpr /tmp/psfile
lpr: connect: No such file or directory
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
philip@ibc:~% lpq
Warning: no daemon present
Rank   Owner      Job  Files                                 Total Size
1st    david      24   /tmp/psfile                           137 bytes
2nd    philip     25   /tmp/psfile                           137 bytes
philip@ibc:~% ls /var/spool/lpd/lw_pro/
cfA024ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com   dfA024ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com   lock
cfA025ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com   dfA025ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com   status
philip@ibc:~% ls -l /var/spool/lpd/lw_pro/
total 6
-rw-rw----  1 daemon  daemon  147 Nov 12 13:02 cfA024ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com
-rw-rw----  1 daemon  daemon  149 Nov 12 13:03 cfA025ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com
-rw-rw----  1 david   daemon  137 Nov 12 13:02 dfA024ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com
-rw-rw----  1 philip  daemon  137 Nov 12 13:03 dfA025ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com
-rw-rw-r--  1 root    daemon    5 Nov 12 12:32 lock
-rw-rw-r--  1 root    daemon   25 Nov 12 12:31 status
philip@ibc:~% lprm 25
dfA025ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com dequeued
cfA025ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com dequeued
philip@ibc:~% logout
root@ibc:~% lprm 24
dfA024ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com dequeued
cfA024ibc.i.adhesivemedia.com dequeued
root@ibc:~% ls -l `which lprm`
-r-sr-sr-x  1 root  daemon  17400 Jun 15 02:55 /usr/bin/lprm*




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Flavio Alberto wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > Where I can find the female BSD Daemon images?

I don't know which one you mean, but there's a very cute one
(even animated) at this URL:

http://www.de.freebsd.org/de/gif/bsd/animated.html

Be careful, she's hot!  :)

Regards
   Oliver

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Alfred Perlstein wrote,
> On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Joao Pedras wrote:
> 
> > On 14-Nov-99 MonkeyPeed@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > What Shell does FreeBSD use, Korn?
> > > 
> >
> > any shell, althought a fresh install will have csh
> > 
> > see /usr/ports/shells
> > 
> > l8r 
> > 
> 
> as well as 'sh'

It is my guess that the original poster's question is what shell is
'/bin/sh'. It is a Bourne shell.

If that is not the question... Please rephrase it.
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Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM wrote,
> Okay, let me rephrase my question.  Does Qpopper support the POP3
> extensions that allow me to send mail?  If it does not, which ones do? 
> There have to be some out there as MCS uses one.  I've tried to figure
> out which one they use (short of emailing postmaster) with no luck.

What does,

% telnet <popserver> 110

Return?

And how are you configuring your MUA to use this email sending POP3
"extension?" 
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I have been testing out the Open SSH port, and noticed when users login I
get the following in my logs

Nov 15 17:01:46 slag3 sshd[7192]: set class 'default' resource limit
datasize: Operation not permitted
Nov 15 17:01:46 slag3 sshd[7192]: set class 'default' resource limit
stacksize: Operation not permitted
Nov 15 17:01:46 slag3 sshd[7192]: set class 'default' resource limit
maxproc: Operation not permitted
Nov 15 17:01:46 slag3 sshd[7192]: set class 'default' resource limit
openfiles: Operation not permitted

I do have this login.conf class set and my cap db is upto date.  What do
the messages refer to then  ?

	---Mike
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John wrote,
> Heyall....
> 
> Something weird started happening this evening to my system.  
> 
> First the stupid part - my power cable came off the box, causing an
> incorrect shutdown.  That's what I get I guess for trying to clean up :)
> 
> Upon reboot, fsck ran fine and all the daemons were powering up... except...
> 
> My system now gets stuck on the line:
> 
> Local package initialization : Modula-3
> 
> At this point, the boot up just halts.  A Ctrl-c puts me gets me past it,
> but skips past the rest of the boot up sequence.
> 
> I tried removing the package /usr/ports/lang/modula-3, but that didn't
> help.  I also tried rebuilding that port, as well as modula-3-lib's.  Still
> no go.
> 
> Any ideas?  

First of all, by the time the 'Modula-3' pops up, it usually means
that the package has already been initialized properly (not the most
helpful way to do things, I know). To be sure, check
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/3<something> (I cannt remember the name of the
Modula startup file, but I think it starts with a 3) and see at what
point in the startup the message is printed.

Assuming that Modula-3 is starting alright, your problem probably lies
with whatever is starting next in the boot process. Are there other
*.sh files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d?
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Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM wrote,
> On this thread - does Qpopper allow one to send using authenticated
> POP3?  My shell provider - mcs.net shut off SMTP relaying quite some
> time ago.  I was told by one of the head gurus to switch my email
> client to POP3 for sending (as MCS is not my internet provider).  This
> has worked great as it only accepts mail from me if I put my username
> and password in (apparently, this feature is not well known, because
> even the tech support guys at mcs.net argued with me for 10 minutes (on
> my dime) that you cannot send with POP3 - I said "I've been doing it
> for months").

I guess you already heard this, but:

	You cannot sent mail with POP3.

To quote RFC 1081 which defines the POP3 protocol,

   This memo does not specify how a client host enters mail into the
   transport system, although a method consistent with the philosophy of
   this memo is presented here:
 
      When the user agent on a client host wishes to enter a message
      into the transport system, it establishes an SMTP connection to
      its relay host (this relay host could be, but need not be, the
      POP3 server host for the client host).

The guys on mcs.net are right. POP3 protocol has no standards for
sending email.

I believe this "feature" is the classic hack to the POP server code
which allows IP addresses that have recently queried the POP server to
relay mail. However, if you are actually sending out mail on port 110,
I have no idea what is up; but it is not POP3.
-- 
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Ahhh, you supplied the needed information. =20

You need the aic0 driver on a _boot_ floppy.  Remeber,
the aic0 driver was only recently (less than 30 days ago)
put into the 3-STABLE branch.  Therefore, neither the 3.2
CD-ROM nor the 3.3 CD-ROM will contain that code...it is
only available on the Internet.  You only have a 3.2
CD-ROM disk set and the boot disk from 3.2.

You could:  1. Down grade to 2.2.8 and wait for the CD-ROM
distribution to contain the aic0 driver in the boot image,
2. Find someone to create a boot floppy with aic0 dirver
support (possibly from the 3-STABLE branch), and then
load the rest of FreeBSD from the CD-ROM (3.3, though) and
then you will have to get current by CVS to get the aic0
code...
3. See if someone else on this list has some other brilliant
ideas....

Maybe, money aside, getting a supported SCSI card?
--That last note is probably NOT what you wanted to hear.

>>> <Steve.Kreha@nstarch.com> 11/15/99 01:46PM >>>



Hi Scott,
  Thanks for the reply. I guess the bottom line is that I am having this
problem at install time. Since the driver does not seem to be loaded when
the floppies are made (I don't have a bootable CDROM) from the rawrite
commands I cannot access the CD to install the OS. Do you have any ideas =
as
to how to solve this problem. Is it possible to get a boot floppy that =
will
recognize this SCSI adapter (aic0).

Thanks again

Steve




"Scott Worthington" <SWorthington@hsag.com> on 11/15/99 12:42:29 PM

To:   Freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Steve Kreha/US/NSC/ICI,
      papalia@UDel.Edu=20
cc:
Subject:  Re: question regarding adaptec 1520 SCSI card




This is just a follow up to the aic0 driver issue...

It is my understanding that support for the aic0 driver under
3.3 was recently placed into the 3-STABLE branch at the
end of October / beginning of November.  The outlying
issue was that the driver was not camified...that is,
3.x uses camcontrol for the SCSI device drivers and
the aic0 driver was not converted yet--until just
recently.

There is a big push in the mobile community for the
aic0 driver because this allows laptop users have
support again for their SCSI devices.  Mainly, users
who have the Adaptec 1460 PC Card.

While I do not have a 1520 SCSI card, I do have
a 1460 PC Card.  The aic0 driver will compile, but
I have not yet been able to get the pccardd daemon
to work yet.

Finally, you can get the aic0 code by CVSing to
3-STABLE.

I personally use the cvsup program on the workstations
(via ethernet) as well as on my IBM laptop (via ppp) to
get the current stable code of the 3.x branch.

>>> John <papalia@UDel.Edu> 11/15/99 10:09AM >>>
Hi steve,

> I hope this is the correct place for a question of this nature. If not
>please let me know where I should direct the email.
>  I hope you can help. I am upgrading from FreeBSD 2.2 to 3.2.2. The 2.2
>release had a driver (AIC0) and support for an adaptec 152x (AHA1520) =
SCSI
>card. It appears that 3.2.2 does not have this same driver (my system
>doesn't find the CDROM). Do you know if this is true and if so are there
>any plans to have

How do you have the controller defined within your kernel?  I took a look
at my LINT file (for 3.3), and it shows:

# aic: Adaptec 152x
controller      aic0    at isa? port ? cam irq ?

I believe this might be slightly different for 3.2, so you might want to
look at your own LINT file (/sys/i386/conf/LINT).  Also, is your CDROM the
only device on that SCSI card? Or is are there other devices as well?  And
if there are, are they working correctly?

--John




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I searched the freebsd website and i cannot find any info on the refuse
files.  Since i don't have an etc/vcsup directory, i places that file in
the /usr/sup/doc-all directory next to the checkouts files.  Is that the
right place?  CVSup proceeded to DL all the docs again anyway in spite of
this, so something must be wrong.

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Ben Smithurst wrote:

>Annelise Anderson wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>>
>>>> 2.  I have seen supfiles that allow me to choose only certain
>>>> collections, but for docs I am getting every language.  The
>>>> example only shows 'docs-all' and doesn't list separate language
>>>> collections.  Can i find this list anywhere?
>>
>> If you get docs-all and look at some of the Makefiles, you'll see the
>> list.  I'm not sure exactly how you'd cvsup one language; you might
>> see what happens with docs-en (English).
>
>Just use a refuse file for that. e.g.,
>
>ben@magnesium:/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/doc-all$ ls -l
>total 137
>-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  127398 Nov 14 19:43 checkouts.cvs:.
>-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel      45 Nov 14 19:40 refuse.cvs:.
>ben@magnesium:/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/doc-all$ cat refuse.cvs:. 
>doc/es_*
>doc/ja_*
>doc/ru_*
>doc/zh_*
>doc/fr_*
>
>-- 
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Just curious if anyone has tried these cards out or not. Their ads claim
FreeBSD support, but I do not see them listed in the supported hardware
list. Also, if anyone has any comments (pros/cons) to a single slot quad
port nic vs 4 seperate 10/100 nics, I'd appreciate hearing them.

ps: please cc me in replies as I'm not currently on the list.

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Nevermind... I'm just going to camp out on J Polstra's site for a few
days.  That should do it...  ;-)


On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

>I searched the freebsd website and i cannot find any info on the refuse
>files.  Since i don't have an etc/vcsup directory, i places that file in
>the /usr/sup/doc-all directory next to the checkouts files.  Is that the
>right place?  CVSup proceeded to DL all the docs again anyway in spite of
>this, so something must be wrong.
>
>On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Ben Smithurst wrote:
>
>>Annelise Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 2.  I have seen supfiles that allow me to choose only certain
>>>>> collections, but for docs I am getting every language.  The
>>>>> example only shows 'docs-all' and doesn't list separate language
>>>>> collections.  Can i find this list anywhere?
>>>
>>> If you get docs-all and look at some of the Makefiles, you'll see the
>>> list.  I'm not sure exactly how you'd cvsup one language; you might
>>> see what happens with docs-en (English).
>>
>>Just use a refuse file for that. e.g.,
>>
>>ben@magnesium:/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/doc-all$ ls -l
>>total 137
>>-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  127398 Nov 14 19:43 checkouts.cvs:.
>>-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel      45 Nov 14 19:40 refuse.cvs:.
>>ben@magnesium:/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/doc-all$ cat refuse.cvs:. 
>>doc/es_*
>>doc/ja_*
>>doc/ru_*
>>doc/zh_*
>>doc/fr_*
>>
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Hello,
A newbie question re PPP and NAT. I am attempting to set up a FreeBSD server
as a firewall router. My first step is to get internal Win clients accessing
the internet via PPP on the server before configuring routing rules.

I seem to have both PPP and PPPd working from the server (able to ping
external servers
happily) but cannot get clients on the LAN to go through the server. I have
tried
using the -alias option for user PPP and natd with PPPd. The routing tables
under netstat -rn look ok as does the interface config info under
ifconfig -a. The Win 98 box has the gateway IP address pointing to the
server IP. Win clients use DHCP and WINS running on and NT 4 server.

The rc.conf file includes:
defaultrouter = NO
gateway_enable=YES

The /etc/ppp/options file has:
defaultroute
noipdefault
ipc-accept-remote
ipc-accept-local

The ppp.conf file has dummy IPs enabled with
set ifaddr 127.1.1./0 127.2.2.2/0 255.255.255.0
add 0 0 127.2.2.2
alias enable yes
enable dns

and the ppp.linkup has:
delete ALL
add 0 0 HISADDR
MYADDR:
add  0 0 HISADDR

Am I missing any settings with either PPP/PPPd approaches? Any suggestions
appreciated.
Please reply by mail.
Thanks
Tony



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Tony, what problem are you attempting to solve with
FreeBSD as the firewall?

What services are you making available to the
LAN computers?

With answers to these questions, we may be able
to direct you to solutions.

Do you want users to have direct access to the=20
Internet through the firewall?

Do you want to monitor and log user activity?

>>> "Tony Tidswell" <tony@digitalzoo.com.au> 11/15/99 04:29PM >>>
Hello,
A newbie question re PPP and NAT. I am attempting to set up a FreeBSD =
server
as a firewall router. My first step is to get internal Win clients =
accessing
the internet via PPP on the server before configuring routing rules.

I seem to have both PPP and PPPd working from the server (able to ping
external servers
happily) but cannot get clients on the LAN to go through the server. I =
have
tried
using the -alias option for user PPP and natd with PPPd. The routing =
tables
under netstat -rn look ok as does the interface config info under
ifconfig -a. The Win 98 box has the gateway IP address pointing to the
server IP. Win clients use DHCP and WINS running on and NT 4 server.

The rc.conf file includes:
defaultrouter =3D NO
gateway_enable=3DYES

The /etc/ppp/options file has:
defaultroute
noipdefault
ipc-accept-remote
ipc-accept-local

The ppp.conf file has dummy IPs enabled with
set ifaddr 127.1.1./0 127.2.2.2/0 255.255.255.0
add 0 0 127.2.2.2
alias enable yes
enable dns

and the ppp.linkup has:
delete ALL
add 0 0 HISADDR
MYADDR:
add  0 0 HISADDR

Am I missing any settings with either PPP/PPPd approaches? Any suggestions
appreciated.
Please reply by mail.
Thanks
Tony



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Brooks,
Thanks for your response.  I have further information.  First, I did try
"make depend" successfully.  Then I ran the "make", and this produced:

ioconf.o(.data+0x6ec):
undefined reference to 'xldriver'
Error code 1

> It shouldn't be.  PCI devices are automagicaly probed and configured.
> Did you assign an IP address, etc. xl0 in sysinstall?  If not then it's
> not configured.  What does "ifconfig xl0" say?  Do you have any lines
> beginning with ifconfig_xl0 in your /etc/rc.conf and if so, what are
> they?
>

So I'm going to take your and Mike Tancsa's advice that I shoudn't need to
recompile the kernel.

This is what typing "ifconfig xl0" says:

myname# ifconfig xl0
xl0: flags=8843< UP, BROADCAST, RUNNING SIMPLEX, MULTICAST> mtu 1500
  inet <IP address> netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 38.233.242.191
  ether 00:10:5a:26:7e:37
  media 10BaseT/UTP <half-duplex> autoselect
  supported media: autoselect 100BaseTX <full-duplex> 100BaseTX
<half-duplex>

Since your message I went back into /stand/sysinstall and noticed that it
did write that information to "rc.conf" which didn't seem to be there
before:

ifconfig_xl0 inet <ip> netmask <netmask>
  network-interfaces "xl0 lo0"

I don't know why the "lo0" is in there...

Also, of interest may be that when I bootup, I notice the following line
when it's trying to load the interface / ethernet card:
   autoneg not complete, no carrier.  Forcing half-duplex

Any further ideas?

Thanks much,

Stephen

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Hi,

    If you think you need it, see "man routed" & take a look at gated in
"/usr/ports/net/gated".

Have Fun...
Ales

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> On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Alejandro Ramirez wrote:
>
> >     This arent Firewalls rules, just how the interface its going to
behave
> > in the router.
> >
> > no ip redirects : This is to disable redirecting packets through the
same
> > interface on wich they where received.
> >
> > no ip directed-broadcast : This is to disable the translation of
directed
> > broadcasts to physical broadcasts in an specific interface.
> >
> > no ip proxy-arp : This is to disable the use of  the "proxy-arp" feature
in
> > an specific interface.
>
> OK, then is there a way/need to config the FreeBSD box interfaces to
> behave the same way?
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Hi I was wondering if there was an eq of Freebsdcon in Berkley califiaonia 
but on in Australia for the Freebsd users in Australia? (unless I am the 
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For Win 95, you need them to logon to microsoft network...
The computers should ask you for password and username
after you reboot (the Win machines)

Frankie Li

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>   Anyone have some good pointers on how to setup the Win95/DOS
> clients to access the SAMBA-configured server?  I believe I
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, taohuang wrote:

> I have two computer one is run freebsd. And I only have one 
real ip. I want to connect the two computer to the internet. 
Then must I have three net card? And use natd? Can I use ip alias? 
Or how can I do for it! 
> 
> thanks
> 
Please wrap your lines at 74 letters or so.

You need three network cards, two in the machine that connects to
the Internet and one in the other machine.  You compile IPFW into
the kernel and run natd on the machine connecting to the Internet.

Alternatively, the machine connecting to the Internet can do so
with a modem, if it's a phone-line connection; then you only
need one nic in it, and you can use ppp -alias instead of natd.

The natd man page is quite good on steps to take to do this.

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Hello all,
	After scouring the web to get these issues straightened out, I need your
help.
	I have configured a FreeBSD 3.3 machine as my gateway machine for 3 other
machines behind.  I have read both the natd and ipfw man pages and done
everything necessary to set it up.  Unfortunately, not everything that is
supposed to work, is.  Internet access works beautifully from inside.  It's
coming back in that's the issue.

/etc/rc.conf contains:
--begin rc.conf---
(among other things)
gateway_enable="YES"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="open"
natd_enable="YES"
--end rc.conf--

natd is called from a natd.startup script which contains:
--begin natd.startup--
ifconfig tx0 <outside IP> netmask 255.255.255.192 (gotta love @home)

route add default <default gateway>

ifconfig de0 10.0.0.4 netmask 255.0.0.0

syctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1

natd -f /etc/natd.conf
---end natd.startup-----

natd.conf contains:
--begin natd.conf--
interface tx0
same_ports yes
use_sockets yes
dynamic yes (do I need this if my IPs are static?)
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:8383 8383
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:8383 8383
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:80 80
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:80 80
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:110 110
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:110 100
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:143 143
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:143 143
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:25 25
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:25 25
---end natd.conf----

I can get to the web server(s) and obviously email is working, but I cannot
get the 8383(webmail), pop3, or IMAP services to redirect.  I'm also curious
how I can test these services from an inside machine (10.0.0.2).  I'm only
able to hit the web servers from a machine outside the firewall.  Please
help.  I have a business that depends on this.  Thanks!


Christian Williams
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Ray Kohler <rjk191@psu.edu> wrote:

> > leon@ra's password: load: 0.17  cmd: ssh1 339 [piperd] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 920k
> 
> Are you typing this in Eterm? Any time a program running in an Eterm
> asks for user input, it does this. Not sure why, but if you push ^D
> twice whenever it happens, it will go away and the program will get on
> with its business. An explanation or permanent fix would be very
> welcome, though.

I can tell you what it is that you are seeing but not why you do.

That line is the status display from the tty discipline. You can
get this by setting a "status" control character with stty and
entering that character when in canonical mode.

naddy@bigeye[~] stty status ^T
naddy@bigeye[~] cat >/dev/null
^Tload: 1.04  cmd: cat 88811 [ttyin] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 96k

How this relates to Eterm, I have no idea.

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Why does not the  function in subject use mmap? In  my tests, using mmap
instead of  reading the  file block  at a  time gave  17-26% performance
improvement:

	The new method: 135735 microseconds per iteration
	The old method: 164525 microseconds per iteration

	The new method: 387283 microseconds per iteration
	The old method: 529743 microseconds per iteration

Should I submit patches, or is there a good reason? Thanks!

	-mi


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On Monday, 15 November 1999 at 22:49:38 +0000, danny h wrote:
>
> Hi I was wondering if there was an eq of Freebsdcon in Berkley califiaonia
> but on in Australia for the Freebsd users in Australia? (unless I am the
> only one<joke>)

You're not the only one, but there probably isn't critical mass.  The
AUUG conference in Melbourne last September drew about 120 people; the
FreeBSDCon in Berkeley drew 330.  I'd guess that a FreeBSDCon in
Australia would get about 40 attendees.  Is that worth it?

Greg
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forgot to add my ipfw rules:

/sbin/ipfw -f flush
/sbin/ipfw add 100 pass all from any to any via lo0
/sbin/ipfw add 64999 divert natd all from any to any via tx0
/sbin/ipfw add 65000 pass all from any to any

Thanks again!

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Hello all,
	After scouring the web to get these issues straightened out, I need your
help.
	I have configured a FreeBSD 3.3 machine as my gateway machine for 3 other
machines behind.  I have read both the natd and ipfw man pages and done
everything necessary to set it up.  Unfortunately, not everything that is
supposed to work, is.  Internet access works beautifully from inside.  It's
coming back in that's the issue.

/etc/rc.conf contains:
--begin rc.conf---
(among other things)
gateway_enable="YES"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="open"
natd_enable="YES"
--end rc.conf--

natd is called from a natd.startup script which contains:
--begin natd.startup--
ifconfig tx0 <outside IP> netmask 255.255.255.192 (gotta love @home)

route add default <default gateway>

ifconfig de0 10.0.0.4 netmask 255.0.0.0

syctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1

natd -f /etc/natd.conf
---end natd.startup-----

natd.conf contains:
--begin natd.conf--
interface tx0
same_ports yes
use_sockets yes
dynamic yes (do I need this if my IPs are static?)
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:8383 8383
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:8383 8383
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:80 80
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:80 80
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:110 110
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:110 100
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:143 143
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:143 143
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:25 25
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:25 25
---end natd.conf----

I can get to the web server(s) and obviously email is working, but I cannot
get the 8383(webmail), pop3, or IMAP services to redirect.  I'm also curious
how I can test these services from an inside machine (10.0.0.2).  I'm only
able to hit the web servers from a machine outside the firewall.  Please
help.  I have a business that depends on this.  Thanks!


Christian Williams
010101010101010101010101
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chris@pagan.tzo.com
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Andre Albsmeier wrote:

> Mine is:
> 
> auth   stream  tcp  wait  root  /usr/local/sbin/identd  identd -w -t120
> 
> and it works perfectly. Don't know if this is the problem...


> 
> > i removed the install, and I did a new compile clean and from the ports
> > (did this both last night and today), issued a kill -HUP <pid of inetd> and
> > the same problem still exists - the irc servers still state I'm not running
> > identd.

I'm having the same problem with identd not working ever since I upgraded
to 3.3-Stable. I've recompiled it, and my inetd.conf entry looks like
the one above, but irc servers claim there is no respose even though it is
listening on port 113.

Dennis

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Nathan Kinsman wrote:
> 
> I can get outstanding write performance, utilizing around 70% of my 100
> meg ethernet hub by setting the recieve buffer to 262144 (performance
> starts flattening around a 65k receive buffer though), but I can not get
> write performance past about 300k, with high delays between packets.

||  oops, this should read I cannot get read performance past 300k.

I'm spending today trying to find a solution for the problem.  I've
compiled and installed Samba 2.0.6, but have noticed little difference. 
I think there is a port for it on -CURRENT, perhaps some patches
implemented on that port would be helpful (I'm running 3.3-STABLE, and
there does not seem to be a new Samba port yet for this release).

I'm having some luck with increasing the receive window size on Windows
98, I can get performance up about 5% by setting RWIN to 373360 (default
is 8192).  Having to change client settings is a poor option though. 
I've also tried changing read size from 1024 all the way to the max, and
have seen no changes from this setting.

I do however think I have found an optimal compiler setting, under EGCS
2.95.2.  I'm using a Pentium II 450, and I understand from reading
through the EGCS mailing lists that EGCS has some trouble with efficient
use of the L1/L2 cache under high optimization settings with this
processor.  I've tried a number of different combinations, and the best
I've found (only 7-8% performance improvement over standard FreeBSD
compiler) is this setting:

-Os -fexpensive-optimizations -funroll-loops -fforce-addr
-fno-strict-aliasing -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fomit-frame-pointer
-mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2
-malign-loops=2 -s

To get this to work on the Samba port, install the GCC 2.95.2 package
and set the environment variables CC=gcc295 CXX=g++295, or edit
/usr/ports/Mk and add the following:

CC=		gcc295
CXX=		g++295
MAKE_ENV=	CC=${CC} CXX=${CXX}

also, I think you need to make sure
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i386-portbld-freebsd3.3/2.95.2/cc1 is setup as
your cc1, and not /usr/libexec/cc1.  I'm not sure how to setup this up
properly, so I just copy the original cc1 to cc1.orig, and then put the
new one into /usr/libexec/cc1.  Of course, make sure you put the
original back before compiling the kernel or other FreeBSD source.

More speed can be had by adding the -malign-double flag for compiling,
but this breaks the Intel ABI a bit, and to work reliably you need to
recompile the kernel and world with this flag as well.  I do this on all
my servers, and never had a problem - it speeds up most everything a
little (byte alignment bug in gcc, I think the latest is finally fixing
it).

Well, now back to trying to do some packet traces..

-
Nathan Kinsman


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hello,

i asked a question regarding the CD installation on my
ASUS P3B-F a while ago that i solved. it was rebooting
on installation, and the fix was a new BIOS. now i'm
trying to install the sources for the kernel, and i'm
getting the same peoblem. when i use sysinstall, it
reboots. if i use sh install.sh sys, it reboots. i
really don't know what's going on now, since i figured
the BIOS fix would help.

once again, the setup:
ASUS P3B-F, rev 1004, 96M RAM, FreeBSD3.3, ATAPI
CD-ROM, Fujitsu Hard Drive, ATI Rage Pro 3D card.

any suggestions?
thanks a million,
luke


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I have a Compaq laptop with a PCMCIA modem (it is not a winmodem).  FreeBSD
does not seem to be able to recognize my modem - it won't respond at all to
AT commands.

I get the following messages at bootup:

	sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x200
	sio1 at 0x2f8-02ff irq3 on isa

my kernel config file has the following:

	device		sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr

Can somebody tell me what the boot message means, and if this could be
related to FreeBSD not being able to recognize my modem?

Thanks,
Mike



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I switched out the RAM, ancd CD drives, to no avail.
BUT, I switched the CPU from 400MHz (it's rated speed)
to 266 in the BIOS and everything's peachy.

Time to use the 'ol, warranty, I guess......

--- "Jonathan E. Lyons" <parrothd@midwest.net> wrote:
> Maybe a RAM problem? Try using only 64 or 32 and see
> if the problem
> persists...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 04:05 PM 11/15/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >hello,
> >
> >i asked a question regarding the CD installation on
> my
> >ASUS P3B-F a while ago that i solved. it was
> rebooting
> >on installation, and the fix was a new BIOS. now
> i'm
> >trying to install the sources for the kernel, and
> i'm
> >getting the same peoblem. when i use sysinstall, it
> >reboots. if i use sh install.sh sys, it reboots. i
> >really don't know what's going on now, since i
> figured
> >the BIOS fix would help.
> >
> >once again, the setup:
> >ASUS P3B-F, rev 1004, 96M RAM, FreeBSD3.3, ATAPI
> >CD-ROM, Fujitsu Hard Drive, ATI Rage Pro 3D card.
> >
> >any suggestions?
> >thanks a million,
> >luke
> >
> >
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"Stephen Schadt" <sschadt@openlinksw.com> writes:

> ifconfig_xl0 inet <ip> netmask <netmask>
>   network-interfaces "xl0 lo0"
> 
> I don't know why the "lo0" is in there...

Unless you don't plan on using your own machine for tcp/ip connections,
you need the lo0 interface.  I'm not sure if anything will break by
removing it, but I'm almost convinced that something will break without
even trying it.

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<toby@m1soft.com> writes:

> I am currently a Linux user, but I am also technically curious about 
> all operating systems, so I will soon by trying FreeBSD.

Nice thinking.  Just give it a try some day.

> Other than for curiosity's sake, why should I give FreeBSD a try?

Curiosity was enough for me.  Of course, I am really very interested in
anything Unix-like, so reading some articles on daemonnews was enough to 
convince me to give it a try.

Being a slackware devotee for the past three years or so, it was easy
for me to switch over to a FreeBSD-only setup.  Most things were really
making sense instantly; program pathnames, configuration files, the
directory structure, etc.

> What makes FreeBSD worth my while?

A lot of things.  First of all, it's Unix.  That should be enough to
make you at least try it.  Second, it's got better performance under
heavy load than Linux, which you're currently using.  Performance means
nothing if your machine is not a server for some enterprise, or it's a
workstation whose load does not get that high with all those Emacsen and 
Netscapes running on it.  Third, the license of FreeBSD which is really
the one implementing the "no strings attached" ideal.  The entire base
system is distributed with a license which is really less restrictive
than the GPL.  But I fear that this last sentence will start another of
those dreaded BSD vs. GPL monster threads. *sigh*

> What does it do that Linux does not?

Probably nothing, if we're talking about the application level.  And if
you're interested in drivers for that latest DVD player card, you'll
probably be suprised that FreeBSD has even fewer drivers than Linux.
Another area where Linux has more drivers is the ethernet adaptor clan,
where Donald Becker has done an excellent job for the Linux folk.

However, there are also things that are possible with FreeBSD and are
currently very difficult to do with Linux.  For instance with cvsup(1),
you can download the sources to the entire FreeBSD base system, and
compile the whole thing from scratch.  To some (including me), this
might seem a great advantage, i.e. to have the sources for *everything*
that runs on your system.  To others it's totally irrelevant.  Your call 
to decide now.

> What are its advantages vs. Linux?

Better virtual memory management, which lets the machine work smoothly
even if it's already started getting into swap area(s).  I can still
remember by surprise when I realized that with my few 32 Mb of memory,
the system was almost constantly using around 10 Mb without me having
noticed at all -- and that was many days after I finished with the
installation of the system, because I didn't know "swapinfo" 'til then.

> Can you tell me where any non-biased reviews exist?

Non-biased, I think not.  Because to do a comparison, you have to try
both systems.  However, most of those who have tried linux and then
freebsd, have fallen in love with the later; that is, unless they tried
only one linux distribution or they just bloody need those extra drivers
that linux already has.  So, you can only get a biased review :)

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I am not able to get 3.3 to see the pccard controller on a
compaq presario 1925.  I am using the PAO-19991011 floppies
and 3.3-RELEASE CD

Windows 98 reports that the controller is a Texas Instruments PCI-1225
Cardbus controller.  I/O range 1810-F, IRQ 9.  I tried these numbers
in kernel config and it didn't help.

What to do?

Thanks in advance,
ping

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>> >> In the past week, I've installed and configured named and apache (with
>> >> modssl).  Everything was going great until i rebooted last night.
>> >> I wanted to hop onto irc for a bit (using ircII), and well, I'm getting a
>> >> response from the servers saying that I need to have my sysadmin install
>> >> identd.  The thing is that I've had pidentd installed for 2+ months now 
>> >> and it WAS working flawlessly.  I'm running v3.3 right now.  Nothign I 
>> >> found in the archives seemed to be the cure.

>> >First make sure identd is set up properly in /etc/inetd.conf and that
>> >the internal "fake" identd is turned off.  If the inetd entry is
>> >correct, remove identd and then recompile it cleanly from the ports
>> >collection.

>> identd is set up in /etc/inetd.conf as:
>> ident   stream  tcp     wait    kmem:kmem /usr/local/sbin/identd identd -w
>> -t120

>Mine is:
>auth   stream  tcp  wait  root  /usr/local/sbin/identd  identd -w -t120

>and it works perfectly. Don't know if this is the problem...

I tried changing my from "ident" to "auth" for the first arguement, and
still no good.  This is what I get:

*** Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.mcs.net
*** Looking up your hostname...
*** Found your hostname, cached
*** Checking Ident
*** Notice -- You need to install identd to use this server
*** Closing Link: myhost.udel.edu (Install identd)
*** Connection closed from irc.mcs.net: Remote end closed connection

Which is positively BAFFLING to me still.  Possible changes, that might
affect this are is my configuration of named.  However I was operating
under a fudged domain name the entire time that identd WAS working.  Doing
a kill -9 on the named process and a kill -HUP on the inetd process still
yields no results.

Any more ideas of places I can look?

I even took a wild stab in the dark and compiled the older pident-2.8.1
port (as opposed to the current pident-2.8.5 port), and it made no difference.

Thanks again all,
John


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I have an installation of FreeBSD 3.2 and the networking justs stops working
from time to time. The server is not overloaded and the log files do not
show a problem. The console works fine but when I try to ping there is no
response. All remote connections are severed. I have to reboot to recover.
This server is a NIS Master, Primary DNS, repository of home directories and
runs AMD. Has anyone run into this problem before?

PS: I -HUPed inetd and then the ping response was "no buffer space
available"

Please Help !!!

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I have an installation of FreeBSD 3.2 and the networking justs stops working
from time to time. The server is not overloaded and the log files do not
show a problem. The console works fine but when I try to ping there is no
response. All remote connections are severed. I have to reboot to recover.
This server is a NIS Master, Primary DNS, repository of home directories and
runs AMD. Has anyone run into this problem before?

Please Help !!!

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I have a problem, I hope my fellow  laptop users can help me with. I have
several dial ups, ie, I need to dial a "9" while at work, and sometimes I need
to dial a long distance code as well as dial while I am at home, my
regular number.

I do have in my /etc/rc.conf file this command that starts ppp in the
background;

/usr/sbin/ppp -auto cybcon

But, I find whenever I change locations that requires a different number to be
dialed, like a 9 or a long distance code, I have to edit /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and
then reboot. I know there must be a simpler way.......

I am open to ideas

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Hey all, just thought I'd share the solution...

After massive amounts of digging in the mail archives I found out the
answer was in freebsd-ports :)

Apparently my recent (2 days ago) buildworld caused the problems with
identd when changes to inetd became incorporated.  To quote an email from
Chris Piazza back on Sept 4, 1999:

<begin quote>
That's right.  Brian Feldman backported some changes from -current
that simplify getting user credentials from a socket.  This is one
side effect.

<quote from commit message to /etc/inetd.conf>
1.33.2.2 Sun Aug 29 13:15:39 1999 UTC by green 
Branch: RELENG_3 
The new pidentd now runs as root.
</quote>

<end quote>

Changed the line in /etc/inetd.conf to:
auth    stream  tcp     wait    root /usr/local/sbin/identd identd -w -t120

And all is happy again.

Thanks to everyone who helped!!!
--John

>> >> In the past week, I've installed and configured named and apache (with
>> >> modssl).  Everything was going great until i rebooted last night.
>> >> I wanted to hop onto irc for a bit (using ircII), and well, I'm getting a
>> >> response from the servers saying that I need to have my sysadmin install
>> >> identd.  The thing is that I've had pidentd installed for 2+ months now 
>> >> and it WAS working flawlessly.  I'm running v3.3 right now.  Nothign I 
>> >> found in the archives seemed to be the cure.

>> >First make sure identd is set up properly in /etc/inetd.conf and that
>> >the internal "fake" identd is turned off.  If the inetd entry is
>> >correct, remove identd and then recompile it cleanly from the ports
>> >collection.

>> identd is set up in /etc/inetd.conf as:
>> ident   stream  tcp     wait    kmem:kmem /usr/local/sbin/identd identd -w
>> -t120

>Mine is:
>auth   stream  tcp  wait  root  /usr/local/sbin/identd  identd -w -t120

>and it works perfectly. Don't know if this is the problem...



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William Woods wrote:
> 
> I have a problem, I hope my fellow  laptop users can help me with. I have
> several dial ups, ie, I need to dial a "9" while at work, and sometimes I need
> to dial a long distance code as well as dial while I am at home, my
> regular number.
> 
> I do have in my /etc/rc.conf file this command that starts ppp in the
> background;
> 
> /usr/sbin/ppp -auto cybcon
> 
> But, I find whenever I change locations that requires a different number to be
> dialed, like a 9 or a long distance code, I have to edit /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and
> then reboot. I know there must be a simpler way.......

You need to setup your ppp.conf so that you can use pppctl. You can
always kill ppp and there was never a need to reboot. Then, you need
to have an entry in your ppp.conf for both work and home. Each entry
can have their own telephone number. You would then type "ppp -auto
cybcon" for work and "ppp -auto home" for home. I also have a shell
aliases that close and dial the connection using pppctl. The close
closes the connection and stops ppp.

Kent

> 
> I am open to ideas
> 
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Hey all...

I'm on a roll tonight with fixing little bugs on my system, so I figure why
stop now.  I think I may have found the solution to my natd problem that I
posted a few times, but being that I'm still learning about IPFW and packet
filtering in general, I'm not too sure about the validity of these rules,
or the potential security issues with them.  They solved me problem when I
use them, but before I commit them permanently, I wanted to get some input
from peopel with more experience :) ...

Setup is two machines - one freebsd, one winblowz.  NIC between the two is
fxp1, NIC from FreeBSD to outside world is fxp0.  1.2.3.4 is used in lieu
of my real IP.  Internal subnet is 192.168.*.  Any input on these would be
greatly appreciated :)  The following output is from ipfw show from when
things were working right.  Firewall set to "open" in /etc/rc.conf

00100	    0    0    divert 6668 ip from any to any via fxp1
00100    0    0    allow ip from any to any via lo0
00150    0    0    allow ip from any to any via fxp0
00175    0    0    allow ip from 128.175.75.157 to 127.0.0.0/8
00200    0    0    deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
65000    0    0    allow ip from any to any
65535    0    0	   deny ip from any to any

Thanks in advance!!!
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For historical reasons, I've configured my drive with four slices:
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and /var partitions; and a big slice, three, for the FreeBSD /usr
filesystem.

(My FreeBSD software is:

	FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE #11: Sun Aug  1 22:26:51 CDT 1999
	hrp@melchett.gofast.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MELCHETT 
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I can boot DOS from slice one and FreeBSD from slice two, but I
haven't found a way to boot from FreeBSD in slice four.  Both BootEasy
and OS-BS prompt correctly for slice four.  I ask to boot from slice
four.  Every time, I wind up getting the other FreeBSD from slice two.

I poked around in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/boot2.c and found that
where it parses the specification for the kernel file, there is an
undocumented parameter for the slice number.  The documented syntax in 
boot.help is:

	Usage: bios_drive:interface(unit,partition)kernel_name options

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                                         ^^^^^

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	0:wd(0,5,a)kernel

and, just in case:

	0:wd(0,6,a)kernel

and none of it worked:  I always wound up with the system from
/dev/wd0s2a.

So, what's the trick?  Is it possible to boot from slice 4?  Has
anybody ever tried this?  It *ought* to work.


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On Mon, 15-Nov-1999 at 22:02:58 -0500, John wrote:
> >> >> In the past week, I've installed and configured named and apache (with
> >> >> modssl).  Everything was going great until i rebooted last night.
> >> >> I wanted to hop onto irc for a bit (using ircII), and well, I'm getting a
> >> >> response from the servers saying that I need to have my sysadmin install
> >> >> identd.  The thing is that I've had pidentd installed for 2+ months now 
> >> >> and it WAS working flawlessly.  I'm running v3.3 right now.  Nothign I 
> >> >> found in the archives seemed to be the cure.
> 
> >> >First make sure identd is set up properly in /etc/inetd.conf and that
> >> >the internal "fake" identd is turned off.  If the inetd entry is
> >> >correct, remove identd and then recompile it cleanly from the ports
> >> >collection.
> 
> >> identd is set up in /etc/inetd.conf as:
> >> ident   stream  tcp     wait    kmem:kmem /usr/local/sbin/identd identd -w
> >> -t120
> 
> >Mine is:
> >auth   stream  tcp  wait  root  /usr/local/sbin/identd  identd -w -t120
> 
> >and it works perfectly. Don't know if this is the problem...
> 
> I tried changing my from "ident" to "auth" for the first arguement, and
> still no good.  This is what I get:
> 
> *** Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.mcs.net
> *** Looking up your hostname...
> *** Found your hostname, cached
> *** Checking Ident
> *** Notice -- You need to install identd to use this server
> *** Closing Link: myhost.udel.edu (Install identd)
> *** Connection closed from irc.mcs.net: Remote end closed connection
> 
> Which is positively BAFFLING to me still.  Possible changes, that might
> affect this are is my configuration of named.  However I was operating
> under a fudged domain name the entire time that identd WAS working.  Doing
> a kill -9 on the named process and a kill -HUP on the inetd process still
> yields no results.
> 
> Any more ideas of places I can look?

More in private mail...

> 
> I even took a wild stab in the dark and compiled the older pident-2.8.1
> port (as opposed to the current pident-2.8.5 port), and it made no difference.
> 
> Thanks again all,
> John

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In message <199911152335.SAA31130@misha.cisco.com>, Mikhail Teterin writes:
>Why does not the  function in subject use mmap? In  my tests, using mmap
>instead of  reading the  file block  at a  time gave  17-26% performance
>improvement:
>
>	The new method: 135735 microseconds per iteration
>	The old method: 164525 microseconds per iteration
>
>	The new method: 387283 microseconds per iteration
>	The old method: 529743 microseconds per iteration
>
>Should I submit patches, or is there a good reason? Thanks!

How would it work for a 5GB file ?

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I am running FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE.  I have recently acquired a Yamaha
CRZ6416sz SCSI CD-RW drive.  I have an existing SCSI chain with a
NCR 815 card, Seagate disk, and HP DAT drive; all those have been 
working fine.  

When booting the system with the new drive installed, I get some errors,
and then the system halts.  Running a kernel without the SCSI cd device
configured gets the CD-ROM recognized by the pass driver without errors.

I have double-checked the terminator, and tried other SCSI ids with no
change.  The drive appears to work fine in Windows.  I have also tried
adjusting the SCSI_DELAY timeout up to 20 seconds with no change.

The specific errors I get are:

cd0:ncr0:0:2:0: got CAM status 0x4a
fatal error, failed to attach to device (cd0:ncr0:0:2:0) removing device
entry

then, I get the message

ncr0: timeout nccb=<something> (skip)

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Mon Nov 15 22:43:44 1999
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Hi,
i've tried to copy some files from one machine to another with the
command:

[root@freak distfiles]# scp alxkiste:/usr/ports/distfiles/rdate* .

it says:

root@alxkiste's password:
scp: Command not found.

freak is a redhat 5.2 box with ssh-1.2.22-6i (6 is rpm version, i for
international i guess)

alxkiste is freebsd 3.3-stable:
uname -a
FreeBSD alxkiste.freaknet.uhlennet.de 3.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE #0:
Thu Sep 16 23:40:35 GMT 1999
jkh@highwing.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
i386

It happens with both ssh and openssh.
ssh2 is not installed

After making a symlink /usr/bin/scp --> /usr/local/bin/scp it works.
My question:
Is this a bug or am i doing something wrong.
I'm new to bsd, so i hope i don't waste your time asking a faq.

alx



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Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> I searched the freebsd website and i cannot find any info on the refuse
> files.

"man cvsup", and search forward for "REFUSE".

> Since i don't have an etc/vcsup directory, i places that file in the
> /usr/sup/doc-all directory next to the checkouts files.  Is that the
> right place?

Should be. I just have my cvsup stuff under /usr/local/etc/cvsup rather
than /usr, but it should still work if that's where your checkouts file
is.

> CVSup proceeded to DL all the docs again anyway in spite of this, so
> something must be wrong.

Shouldn't be, assuming you got the filename right. :-) If you
can't get it to work after checking the manpage and cvsup FAQ (see
http://www.polstra.com/) then you could contact CVSup's author, he
should be able to help.

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> Hail, 
> 
> I am attempting to get freeBSD on my Pent 100mhz pc, to breathe life into a machine gathering dust... However, the fdimage.exe link on the page is broken and I can't find the executable to properly image the floppies,
> 
> no response is nec, but please fix the the link

You can find fdimage.exe at

   ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/fdimage.exe

What is the URL of the page that has the broken link?

Regards,

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Hi.
My laptop is IBM 560.
I have a network card by Eiger Labs.

However, my network interface does not appear
after booting.

What problem do I have?

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Forwarded from freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org because of no response.

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On 10 Nov 99, at 21:43, Dan Langille wrote:

> I'm creating a new cvsup mirror from scratch.  I've been told that I can
> use one of the CDs as a starting point.  And then cvsup from another
> server to get up to date.  This is in preference to pulling the whole
> source tree down from another server.

cvsup and and cvsup-mirror have been installed.

> But I can't find the data on the CDs.  Where is it?  And is it just a
> straight copy from that to disk?

The repository does not exist on the 3.3 CDs.  So I used 3.2.  It is a
copy, then an untar.  The box now contains a repository at /home/ncvs.  
I
plan to use cvsup to get the latest and greatest repository.

Here's what I have:

[root@fred:/home/ncvs] # ls -lt
total 6
drwxr-xr-x   3 root  wheel   512 Nov 13 01:56 distrib
drwxr-xr-x   5 root  wheel  1536 Nov 12 23:59 CVSROOT
drwxr-xr-x  12 root  wheel   512 Nov 12 23:59 doc
drwxr-xr-x  50 root  wheel  1024 Nov 12 23:59 ports
drwxr-xr-x  24 root  wheel  1024 Nov 12 23:59 src

That distrib directory is the result of the steps indicated at:

http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/faq.html#serversample

I'm not sure what use these files are used for.  Any clues>

[root@fred:/home/ncvs/distrib/cvsup] # ls -lt
total 3
drwxr-xr-x  78 root  wheel  2048 Nov 13 01:57 sup
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   512 Nov 12 21:30 supfile
[root@fred:/home/ncvs/distrib/cvsup] # ls sup
README                  ports-graphics          ports-x11-toolkits
cvs-all                 ports-irc               ports-x11-wm
cvs-crypto              ports-japanese          src-all
distrib                 ports-java              src-base
doc-all                 ports-korean            src-bin
gnats                   ports-lang              src-contrib
mail-archive            ports-mail              src-crypto
ports-all               ports-math              src-eBones
ports-archivers         ports-mbone             src-etc
ports-astro             ports-misc              src-games
ports-audio             ports-net               src-gnu
ports-base              ports-news              src-include
ports-benchmarks        ports-palm              src-kerberosIV
ports-biology           ports-print             src-lib
ports-cad               ports-russian           src-libexec
ports-chinese           ports-security          src-release
ports-comms             ports-shells            src-sbin
ports-converters        ports-sysutils          src-secure
ports-databases         ports-textproc          src-share
ports-deskutils         ports-vietnamese        src-sys
ports-devel             ports-www               src-sys-crypto
ports-editors           ports-x11               src-tools
ports-emulators         ports-x11-clocks        src-usrbin
ports-ftp               ports-x11-fm            src-usrsbin
ports-games             ports-x11-fonts         www
ports-german            ports-x11-servers

[root@fred:/home/ncvs/distrib/cvsup] # ls sup/cvs-all/
list.cvs        releases

I think these files should be located at /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/.  Should
they be moved?  Aren't they the files which tell cvsup what is in the
repository?  Are these the checkout files referred to in the FAQ?

> I've also been told there is a port which will go through and kill any
> orphans in the source tree.  Anyone heard of that?

I've been told this is in the contrib subdirectory of the CVSup source
distribution.  Where is this?

cheers.
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I have an adaptec 1520 (I know I should just get rid of it)
but will try to build a release and floppies (and a GENERIC
kernel) that include the driver.  I've tried it on -current
and it had some trouble with the cdrom.  So it might be an
ftp-install situation (it handled the scsi hard drives just
fine).  I would build a RELENG_3 version.

Anybody else interested, assuming the make release works?

	Annelise

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Scott Worthington wrote:

> Ahhh, you supplied the needed information.  
> 
> You need the aic0 driver on a _boot_ floppy.  Remeber,
> the aic0 driver was only recently (less than 30 days ago)
> put into the 3-STABLE branch.  Therefore, neither the 3.2
> CD-ROM nor the 3.3 CD-ROM will contain that code...it is
> only available on the Internet.  You only have a 3.2
> CD-ROM disk set and the boot disk from 3.2.
> 
> You could:  1. Down grade to 2.2.8 and wait for the CD-ROM
> distribution to contain the aic0 driver in the boot image,
> 2. Find someone to create a boot floppy with aic0 dirver
> support (possibly from the 3-STABLE branch), and then
> load the rest of FreeBSD from the CD-ROM (3.3, though) and
> then you will have to get current by CVS to get the aic0
> code...
> 3. See if someone else on this list has some other brilliant
> ideas....
> 
> Maybe, money aside, getting a supported SCSI card?
> --That last note is probably NOT what you wanted to hear.
> 
> >>> <Steve.Kreha@nstarch.com> 11/15/99 01:46PM >>>
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Scott,
>   Thanks for the reply. I guess the bottom line is that I am having this
> problem at install time. Since the driver does not seem to be loaded when
> the floppies are made (I don't have a bootable CDROM) from the rawrite
> commands I cannot access the CD to install the OS. Do you have any ideas as
> to how to solve this problem. Is it possible to get a boot floppy that will
> recognize this SCSI adapter (aic0).
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Scott Worthington" <SWorthington@hsag.com> on 11/15/99 12:42:29 PM
> 
> To:   Freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Steve Kreha/US/NSC/ICI,
>       papalia@UDel.Edu 
> cc:
> Subject:  Re: question regarding adaptec 1520 SCSI card
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This is just a follow up to the aic0 driver issue...
> 
> It is my understanding that support for the aic0 driver under
> 3.3 was recently placed into the 3-STABLE branch at the
> end of October / beginning of November.  The outlying
> issue was that the driver was not camified...that is,
> 3.x uses camcontrol for the SCSI device drivers and
> the aic0 driver was not converted yet--until just
> recently.
> 
> There is a big push in the mobile community for the
> aic0 driver because this allows laptop users have
> support again for their SCSI devices.  Mainly, users
> who have the Adaptec 1460 PC Card.
> 
> While I do not have a 1520 SCSI card, I do have
> a 1460 PC Card.  The aic0 driver will compile, but
> I have not yet been able to get the pccardd daemon
> to work yet.
> 
> Finally, you can get the aic0 code by CVSing to
> 3-STABLE.
> 
> I personally use the cvsup program on the workstations
> (via ethernet) as well as on my IBM laptop (via ppp) to
> get the current stable code of the 3.x branch.
> 
> >>> John <papalia@UDel.Edu> 11/15/99 10:09AM >>>
> Hi steve,
> 
> > I hope this is the correct place for a question of this nature. If not
> >please let me know where I should direct the email.
> >  I hope you can help. I am upgrading from FreeBSD 2.2 to 3.2.2. The 2.2
> >release had a driver (AIC0) and support for an adaptec 152x (AHA1520) SCSI
> >card. It appears that 3.2.2 does not have this same driver (my system
> >doesn't find the CDROM). Do you know if this is true and if so are there
> >any plans to have
> 
> How do you have the controller defined within your kernel?  I took a look
> at my LINT file (for 3.3), and it shows:
> 
> # aic: Adaptec 152x
> controller      aic0    at isa? port ? cam irq ?
> 
> I believe this might be slightly different for 3.2, so you might want to
> look at your own LINT file (/sys/i386/conf/LINT).  Also, is your CDROM the
> only device on that SCSI card? Or is are there other devices as well?  And
> if there are, are they working correctly?
> 
> --John
> 
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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:43:06 +0100, alx wrote:

> [root@freak distfiles]# scp alxkiste:/usr/ports/distfiles/rdate* .
> 
> it says:
> 
> root@alxkiste's password:
> scp: Command not found.

> After making a symlink /usr/bin/scp --> /usr/local/bin/scp it works.

If you had to create this symlink on your FreeBSD box, you may find that
the user alxkiste on the FreeBSD box doesn't have /usr/local/bin in its
PATH.

If you had to create this symlink on your Linux box, you're asking the
wrong people. :-)

Ciao,
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:24:32 EST, Bruce Campbell wrote:

> - from root, kill the "telnetd" process of the user.

What happens if you kill the shell process of the user instead?

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Hi.

I'm trying to set up amanda, and I have a problem.

When I run amdump I get the error "taper: FATAL shmget: Cannot allocate
memory"

The box is running 3.3-RELEASE.

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Our old sparc under SunOS-4.1.3 is no more our ypserver. I wanted to
make it a ypclient, but it seems that it does not understand the new
freebsd ypserver (3.3-STABLE). Is there something to read about this topic? 

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On 15 Nov 1999, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> Ariel Burbaickij <Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de> writes:
> 
> > Tried to use cvsup
> > Got:cannot get IP address of my own host - is its hostname correct?
> > response from ifconfig tun0
> > is:flags=8051<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1524
> > inet 134.176.189.46 --> 134.176.188.50 netmask 0xffffff00(ISP uses dynamic
> > adresses)
> > Net applications (irc,ftp,ssh,www)ru nso far without any troubles.
> > I set my hostname deliberatly to Ariel.zhestianka.de(default was
> > myname.mydomain.org) so i thought it is nothing so critical about it,is it
> > not?
> > 
> > Question:How can the trouble be solved?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ariel Burbaickij
> 
> You have probably forgotten to change your host name somewhere.  Those
> net applications you mentioned (ftp, telnet, etc) are used on _your_
> host, or other hosts which resolve correctly over the PPP link.
> 
> What happens when you do?
> 
> 	% ping ariel
> 
> and what happens when you do?
> 
> 	% ping ariel.zhestianka.de
> 
> Do both of these names resolve to 127.0.0.1, or your /etc/hosts is a
> mess and needs updating?
  Well the problem is as I guess interim solved but in rather strange
  manner:as soon as I use -g -L 2 handles programm can resolve
  the necessary adresses so the question is:Is it an expect behaviour?
  As to my /etc/hosrs/ I will gladly post it to you as soon i a reach
  mu computer the same is true about resolving of names to adresses
  The results will be posted as soon as .

  Regards,
  Ariel Burbaickij  
> -- 
> Giorgos Keramidas, <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
> "What we have to learn to do, we learn by doing." [Aristotle]
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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:43:06 +0100, alx wrote:
> 
> > [root@freak distfiles]# scp alxkiste:/usr/ports/distfiles/rdate* .
> > 
> > it says:
> > 
> > root@alxkiste's password:
> > scp: Command not found.
> 
> > After making a symlink /usr/bin/scp --> /usr/local/bin/scp it works.
> 
> If you had to create this symlink on your FreeBSD box, you may find that
> the user alxkiste on the FreeBSD box doesn't have /usr/local/bin in its
> PATH.

alxkiste is the name of the FreeBSD box, the user, in this case root, has
/usr/local/bin in its path.

But i forgot to kill and restart sshd after deinstalling openssh and
installing ssh, so with ssh it works without symlink.

openssh is working now, after cvsuping ports and rebuilding openssh.
I think, its reading login.conf now (read on cvs-all).

> If you had to create this symlink on your Linux box, you're asking the
> wrong people. :-)

I would never bother you with that frosty bird ;-)

> Ciao,
> Sheldon.
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Hi,
Is BootEasy compatible with a UDMA disk formatted with FAT32 ?
Machine :
Disk0-3.2GB UDMA disk as master (bootable) on IDE0 for MS,
Disk1-SCSI-LVD on Adaptec 2940U2W for FreeBSD 3.3R

I ftp'd 3.3R (as 2.2.5 seems not to be compat. with my 2940U2W)
from a local mirror, but used my WNCreek bx'd set version 2.2.5
to install Boot.bin via Bootinst.exe.

On re-boot, BootEasy managed (after a fashion) to boot FreeBSD, but
only offers 'Non-system disk or disk error' if I try to boot MS.
Restoring Bootsav.bin, as expected,  restores a bootable MS, but no
FreeBSD.

Any work-arounds or cures ?
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Mark Pearson

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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:24:32 EST, Bruce Campbell wrote:
> 
> > - from root, kill the "telnetd" process of the user.
> 
> What happens if you kill the shell process of the user instead?

I just tried that now, and the effect was the same, "more" started eating
CPU. Killing the shell also had the side effect of killing the parent
telnetd at the same time.

When tested with login shell of /bin/csh, or on FreeBSD 3.1 with any
shell, killing the telnetd results in all child processes attached to the
terminal dying.

I just removed "mail" from the loop.  I ran

  more /etc/hosts

(or any file over 25 lines), killed the parent /bin/sh, and "more" went to
the top of "top".  Also tried 2 other programs that read input : "cat" and
"telnet" instead of "more", and "no problem".

Thanks for your interest in this problem.  I sure hope we haven't done
something silly to cause this.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:02:58 +0100, Sebestyen Zoltan wrote:

> Actually it's a pine 4.04 (as the mail header shows:)))

Ah yes, good old Pine.  When last I used Pine, it didn't allow the use
of aggregate commands in the attachment viewer.  you should bug the Pine
maintainers about that.

In the mean time, though, check out the mmencode port.  It's in the
convertors category of the Ports collection.  The Ports collection and
packages are described at http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ .

Basically, you'll want to use Pine's pipe command (using the '|' key) to
pipe the message to mmencode -u .

Have fun!

Ciao,
Sheldon.

PS: This was one of two reasons why I switched from Pine to nmh. :-)


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Hi,

I am attempting to install ssh from the ports collection under v3.3 when
I do a make install it consistently fails to find a patch called

            patch-ssh-1.2.27-bsd.tty.chown

I have attempted to retrieve this patch manually but cannot locate it.
Could anyone shed somelight on its whereabouts please ?

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Poul-Henning Kamp once stated:

=In message <199911152335.SAA31130@misha.cisco.com>, Mikhail Teterin writes:
=>Why does not the function in subject use mmap? In my tests, using mmap
=>instead of  reading the file block  at a time gave  17-26% performance
=>improvement:
=>
=>	The new method: 135735 microseconds per iteration
=>	The old method: 164525 microseconds per iteration
=>
=>	The new method: 387283 microseconds per iteration
=>	The old method: 529743 microseconds per iteration
=>
=>Should I submit patches, or is there a good reason? Thanks!
=
=How would it work for a 5GB file ?

It will fall back to the old method. This will make the code uglier, but
quite a bit more  efficient -- most of the time,  files are smaller then
2Gb... And,  I hope, eventually  FreeBSD will  allow bigger files  to be
mmaped...

This is how my testings were done (I like TCL). After `make', run

	tclsh8.0 test.tcl

		-mi

# This is a shell archive.  Save it in a file, remove anything before
# this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file".  Note, it may
# create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and
# have default permissions.
#
# This archive contains:
#
#	/tmp/md5
#	/tmp/md5/test.tcl
#	/tmp/md5/mitest.c
#	/tmp/md5/Makefile
#
echo c - /tmp/md5
mkdir -p /tmp/md5 > /dev/null 2>&1
echo x - /tmp/md5/test.tcl
sed 's/^X//' >/tmp/md5/test.tcl << 'END-of-/tmp/md5/test.tcl'
Xload libmitest.so
X
Xif {[md5file1 /kernel] != [md5file2 /kernel]} {
X	puts stderr "Bad -- the results differ!"
X}
X
Xputs "The new method: [time {md5file1 /kernel} 30]"
Xputs "The old method: [time {md5file2 /kernel} 30]"
END-of-/tmp/md5/test.tcl
echo x - /tmp/md5/mitest.c
sed 's/^X//' >/tmp/md5/mitest.c << 'END-of-/tmp/md5/mitest.c'
X#include <sys/types.h>
X#include <stdio.h>
X#include <md5.h>
X#include <sys/mman.h>
X#include <sys/stat.h>
X#include <fcntl.h>
X#include <tcl.h>
X
X#define MAX_MMAP_SIZE 2147483648	/* 2 Gb */
X
Xstatic char * my_MD5File(const char *filename, char *buf)
X{
X	MD5_CTX ctx;
X	int f;
X	void *p;
X	struct stat stats;
X
X	if(stat(filename, &stats) == -1) err(filename);
X
X	if(stats.st_size > MAX_MMAP_SIZE) {
X		fprintf(stderr, "%d is above %d -- falling back",
X			stats.st_size, MAX_MMAP_SIZE);
X		return MD5File(filename, buf);
X	}
X
X	f = open(filename,O_RDONLY);
X
X	p = mmap(NULL, stats.st_size, PROT_READ, 0, f, 0);
X	if(!p) err("mmap");
X
X	MD5Init(&ctx);
X	MD5Update(&ctx, p, stats.st_size);
X
X	munmap(p, stats.st_size);
X	close(f);
X
X	return MD5End(&ctx, buf);
X}
X
Xstatic int
Xmd5file(ClientData cd, Tcl_Interp *I, int objc, Tcl_Obj * CONST  objv[])
X{
X	char *result;
X
X	result = Tcl_GetStringFromObj(objv[1], NULL);
X	result = cd ? MD5File(result, NULL) : my_MD5File(result, NULL);
X
X	if(!result) {
X		Tcl_SetResult(I, "(null)", TCL_STATIC);
X		return TCL_ERROR;
X	}
X
X	Tcl_SetResult(I, result, TCL_DYNAMIC);
X	return TCL_OK;
X}
X
Xint Mitest_Init(Tcl_Interp *I) {
X	Tcl_CreateObjCommand(I, "md5file1", md5file, NULL, NULL);
X	Tcl_CreateObjCommand(I, "md5file2", md5file, NULL+1, NULL);
X	return Tcl_PkgProvide(I, "mitest", "1.0");
X	
X}
END-of-/tmp/md5/mitest.c
echo x - /tmp/md5/Makefile
sed 's/^X//' >/tmp/md5/Makefile << 'END-of-/tmp/md5/Makefile'
XLIB=mitest
XSHLIB_MAJOR=1
X
XSRCS=mitest.c
X
XCFLAGS+=-I/usr/local/include/tcl8.0
X
XLDADD=-lmd
X
X.include <bsd.lib.mk>
END-of-/tmp/md5/Makefile
exit


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In message <199911161441.JAA27403@rtfm.newton>, Mikhail Teterin writes:

>=>Should I submit patches, or is there a good reason? Thanks!
>=
>=How would it work for a 5GB file ?
>
>It will fall back to the old method. This will make the code uglier, but
>quite a bit more  efficient -- most of the time,  files are smaller then
>2Gb... And,  I hope, eventually  FreeBSD will  allow bigger files  to be
>mmaped...

It's not a FreeBSD issue, it's a hardware issue.  As long as we only
have 32 bits of virtual memory we're stuck somewhere in that range.

>This is how my testings were done (I like TCL). After `make', run

I like tcl too :-)

I think any advantage of mmap disappears once the file gets
sufficiently large, ie I would expect little or no benefit for
files larger than a few megabytes, can you confirm that ?

Anyway, send me your patches...

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Does anyone know if the adaptec ava-1505a is supported ?


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From: Alex Charalabidis <alex@wnm.net>
To: Nathaniel Schein <nschein@prisa.com>
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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Nathaniel Schein wrote:

> I have an installation of FreeBSD 3.2 and the networking justs stops working
> from time to time. The server is not overloaded and the log files do not
> show a problem. The console works fine but when I try to ping there is no
> response. All remote connections are severed. I have to reboot to recover.
> This server is a NIS Master, Primary DNS, repository of home directories and
> runs AMD. Has anyone run into this problem before?
> 
If it just "stops working" or throughput drops drastically for no apparent
reason, I'd suspect a dying NIC first. Have you tried changing network
cards?

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We are planning to setup a leased line for our office. 
I have read the book that comes with the FreeBSD and the book building
Internet Firewalls.

My problem is that I want to setup email and www services for our people
who are traveling abroad.

Is there any standard application for doing this. 
I have been told that sendmail cannot do this.
From what I understand the SMTP email server doesnot support
authedication for users when they are sending email.

I was thinking maybe to use some kind of web based email with SSL but
then I do not know if there is any such feature in FreeBSD and if we can
also send attachments in our emails.

What we are thinking to do is:

ISP <-> Router <-> Bastion host <-> Router <-> intranet.
 The Bastion host will provide email, www, ftp 

I am sure that there a lot of networks that already doing what we want
to build.
I would appreciate any help!

thank you
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On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 07:39:50AM -0600, Jacques Vidrine wrote:
> On 15 November 1999 at 22:50, Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu> wrote:
> > The following line is from /etc/defaults/rc.conf:
> > 
> > sendmail_enable="YES"	# Run the sendmail daemon (or NO).
> > 
> > Copy it to /etc/rc.conf and change YES to NO
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> This is bad advice... do _not_ copy /etc/defaults/rc.conf to
> /etc/rc.conf.   Just edit your existing /etc/rc.conf and add
> the appropriate line.

That was exactly what she prompted. "Copy it" (the line) So you suggest
exactly the same thing!!

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I had this on a 2.2.8 machine. Turns out that though it
was set to 100/Full, the Cisco switch couldn't handle auto
detect right, as a result I'd get Input errors on the NIC.
Manuel setting of the cisco port fixed the problem.


In a previous message, Alex Charalabidis said:
> 
> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Nathaniel Schein wrote:
> 
> > I have an installation of FreeBSD 3.2 and the networking justs stops working
> > from time to time. The server is not overloaded and the log files do not
> > show a problem. The console works fine but when I try to ping there is no
> > response. All remote connections are severed. I have to reboot to recover.
> > This server is a NIS Master, Primary DNS, repository of home directories and
> > runs AMD. Has anyone run into this problem before?
> > 
> If it just "stops working" or throughput drops drastically for no apparent
> reason, I'd suspect a dying NIC first. Have you tried changing network
> cards?
> 
> -ac
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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I have searched high and low for the answer to this:  man pages,
website, -questions archives, but I have been unable to find the
answer so...


I have a SCSI DAT drive (DDS2) in my FreeBSD3.3-STABLE machine that
is working great.  I can backup my partitions with dump, and all
works great.  What I want to do is back up a couple of other FreeBSD
machines on my local net as well. (one FreeBSD3.2-RELEASE and one 
FreeBSD2.2.8-STABLE)  I'd like to be able to run one script from the
machine with the tape drive and have it cycle through the machines,
backing them up one at a time.

I've looked into Amanda, but it is overkill for what I want to do. 
My question is what syntax do I use with dump (or do I use rdump?) to
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machines to enable them to be backed up?

I've tried several things, but it is obvious I'm getting nowhere...

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[NOTE: I posted this to freebsd-ports a couple days ago, and didn't
       get any response, so I figured I'd try a bigger audience. I
	   suppose this should've got to freebsd-questions first anyways -
	   sorry for any duplication you get.]

Hi-

I'm in the process of updating the nmh port from version 1.0 to the
recently released 1.0.2 and I noticed something odd in my old patches.
I patch the acconfig.h file in the distribution to (apparently) try to
get it configured to do FLOCK_LOCKING instead of DOT_LOCKING.

However, I just noticed (after doing a 'make configure') that the
config.h file I end up with is setup for DOT_LOCKING.  Then, just to
try to see what "the system" uses, I checked the sendmail sources from
my FreeBSD-3.2 system - other OS's seem to define a HASFLOCK cpp var,
but not for the BSDs.  So, I figured I'd check to verify what the
proper setting should be.

Suggestions?

Thanx,
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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:43:40 PST, Scott Blachowicz wrote:

> However, I just noticed (after doing a 'make configure') that the
> config.h file I end up with is setup for DOT_LOCKING.  Then, just to
> try to see what "the system" uses, I checked the sendmail sources from
> my FreeBSD-3.2 system - other OS's seem to define a HASFLOCK cpp var,
> but not for the BSDs.

We definitely have flock(2), so you should try to encourage nmh to use
it if possible.  This might cause problems for folks whose Mail folders
are on NFS filesystems, so you might consider making it a Makefile knob
like NMH_MTS and friends.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Hi:
I am getting the following error from sendmail:

Sendmail....	forward /home/user/.forward Group Writable Directory

Well; the directory does not exist in the specified location i.e 'ls -la'
in /home/user shows no .forward file. 
Is sendmail complaining it does not exist? if not why is it complaining
about a group writable directory that does not exist?


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> Sendmail.... forward /home/user/.forward Group Writable Directory
>
> Well; the directory does not exist in the specified location i.e 'ls -la'
> in /home/user shows no .forward file.
> Is sendmail complaining it does not exist? if not why is it complaining
> about a group writable directory that does not exist?

Check also the /home and /home/user directory permissions. Sendmail 8.9.3
checks write permission of all directories (and its higher level
directories) it uses.

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Richard



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That's assuming that he has SAMBA configured for security=user.  He may have
it setup per share, or domain, or something else.  We don't have enough
information to actually troubleshoot his problem.

The 1st question is, does the samba server show up in Network neighborhood?
If not...
 1. Can the computers communicate in general?  Can they ping each other?
 2. Are they in the same workgroup?  Verify that the workgroup in smb.conf
and in control panel | networking | identification, are the same.
 3. Are they on the same subnet?
 4. What is the subnet mask?  You may want to specify it on the interfaces=
line in the smb.conf. E.g. interfaces=10.0.0.1/255.255.255.0 (of course fill
in your information here).

To answer broderick's original question, there is ALOT of information on
setting up and troubleshooting samba, that comes with samba.

Take a look in /usr/share/doc/samba/.  This is a DIAGNOSE.TXT that is
extreemly detailed.

-Chris



> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Frankie Li [SMTP:notme@lvdi.net]
> Sent:	Monday, November 15, 1999 6:08 PM
> To:	Broderick Wood
> Cc:	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject:	Re: SAMBA Network
> 
> For Win 95, you need them to logon to microsoft network...
> The computers should ask you for password and username
> after you reboot (the Win machines)
> 
> Frankie Li
> 
> Broderick Wood wrote:
> 
> >   Anyone have some good pointers on how to setup the Win95/DOS
> > clients to access the SAMBA-configured server?  I believe I
> > configured SAMBA correctly but am unsure where to fill in the
> > settings on the clients to access it...
> >
> > ---------------------------
> > -BMW-
> >
> > To soar like an eagle,
> > fly like a dove.
> >
> > (bwood@kingsu.ab.ca)
> > Broderick Wood,
> > Director of Information Technology Services
> > The King's University College
> > 9125 - 50 Street
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> > T6B 2H3
> > (780) 465-8315
> > (780) 465-3534 (FAX)
> >
> > ><> <><
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ray Kohler [SMTP:ray@psu.edu]
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> Subject:	Re: re-compiling ports after cvsup
> 
> On 15 Nov, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> > Is there one command that will rebuild ALL the ports without installing
> > them?  Something similar to 'make buildworld', only for the ports
> > collection?  
> 
> Go to the top level of the ports collection (/usr/ports) and run "make"
> with no arguments. This will build all of them without installing them
> also. The handbook has a good deal on this.
> 
	Woah, that'll make ALL of the ports, not just the ones you have
installed.  I hope you have several gig to burn on that partition.  The
distfiles alone will be over 1.7GB.

> > Also, when trying the new version of a port, even though
> > the package may have a different name, won't the binary have the same
> > name and overwrite the older version?
> 
> Yes, but the idea is to try the new version in the build directory
> (without installing it). Don't run make install until you think it's a
> good idea.
> 
	Yes you can do this.  But it'll add clutter in several ways.
	#1) /var/pkg will get full of information on all the old and new
versions, and it can become confusing to, say the least.
	#2) What if a new version of a program doesn't have the exact same
packing list.  You'll end up having old files from old versions hanging
around your system, taking up space and causing confusion as well.  Binaries
aren't always the only thing installed with a port.  There can be config
files, documentation, libraries, etc...

	Unfortunately there is no equivalent to "make buildworld" for _just_
the ports you have installed.

	Has anyone pointed out the pkg_version, in the ports collection?  It
goes through the list of installed ports, and the list of available ports in
/usr/ports and tells you which ones need updating.

	-Chris

> -- 
> Ray Kohler <rjk191@psu.edu>
> 
> 
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maybe it's in the archives of freebsd-security ?
of freebsd-announce ?

Regards, (îÁÉĚŐŢŰÉĹ ĐĎÖĹĚÁÎÉŃ)

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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Kevin Lea wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am attempting to install ssh from the ports collection under v3.3 when
> I do a make install it consistently fails to find a patch called
> 
>             patch-ssh-1.2.27-bsd.tty.chown
> 
> I have attempted to retrieve this patch manually but cannot locate it.
> Could anyone shed somelight on its whereabouts please ?
> 
> Kevin
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In a previous message, Mark Hartley said:
> 
> I have searched high and low for the answer to this:  man pages,
> website, -questions archives, but I have been unable to find the
> answer so...
> 
> 
> I have a SCSI DAT drive (DDS2) in my FreeBSD3.3-STABLE machine that
> is working great.  I can backup my partitions with dump, and all
> works great.  What I want to do is back up a couple of other FreeBSD
> machines on my local net as well. (one FreeBSD3.2-RELEASE and one 
> FreeBSD2.2.8-STABLE)  I'd like to be able to run one script from the
> machine with the tape drive and have it cycle through the machines,
> backing them up one at a time.

From the remote machine:

rdump 0auf tape_machine:/dev/nrst0 filesystem.

> I've looked into Amanda, but it is overkill for what I want to do. 
> My question is what syntax do I use with dump (or do I use rdump?) to
> back up the other machines?  What do I need to do on the other
> machines to enable them to be backed up?

The tape_machine has to allow root (or bin) from the remote machine
to login without a password, I believe. You can run this from tape machine
by putting an rsh (ssh) remote_machine in front of the rdump command. And
then the remote machine will have to allow root (bin) of the tape machine to
login without a password.

However, if you are backing up 2 or more machines more than once a week,
amanda is not overkill. 


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In the last episode (Nov 16), daniel B said:
> I am getting the following error from sendmail:
> 
> Sendmail....	forward /home/user/.forward Group Writable Directory
> 
> Well; the directory does not exist in the specified location i.e 'ls
> -la' in /home/user shows no .forward file.
>
> Is sendmail complaining it does not exist? if not why is it
> complaining about a group writable directory that does not exist?

It's complaining that /home/user is group writeable, so anyone in that
group can create a .forward file and redirect that user's mail.  If
you set up your system to give each user their own group (and no-one
else is in that group), you can set a flag in your sendmail.cf that
disables the group-write check.

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Hi all,

I am using 3.2 with XFree86-3.3.3.1.

I have a problem compiling the port lyx. It looks for the shared library
 xforms.0 and couldn't find it. Making /port/x11-toolkit/xforms failed. I
manually download the excutable library package from xform site. BUT, no
matter where I put this libxforms.a, the Makefile of lyx can not find it. 

I checked newsgroup achieve and only saw a few related messages back to
1996. No too much help to my problem.

Any suggestions!

Chen	       xuchen66@yahoo.com
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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:47:19 EST, Bruce Campbell wrote:

> Thanks for your interest in this problem.  I sure hope we haven't done
> something silly to cause this.

Well, I can't reproduce the problem here on a 3.3-STABLE box.  The one
thing that makes me worry about your setup is that I couldn't just kill
the /bin/sh process with SIGTERM -- I had to use SIGKILL.

Worst of all, I don't think either of sh and more have changed in
3.3-STABLE since 3.3-RELEASE. :-(

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Dear Freebsd Technician,

Will freebsd run on a AMD K6-2 processor?  The managemant for my company
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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:25:39 EST, David Whittington wrote:

> Dear Freebsd Technician,

FreeBSD volunteer, more like it. :-)

> Will freebsd run on a AMD K6-2 processor?  The managemant for my company
> needs to know which route to take for buying a new processor.

Yes, FreeBSD runs on the AMD K6-2 processor.  

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Hello, 

When I install FreeBSD (3.3), I chose TWM window manager. But I do not it,
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Francisco,
This is assuming that you are upgrading XFree using the ported version.  If
it is not already installed that can be a problem (which I had).

XF86Setup requires either.. um.. tk or qt, I can't remember which.  You'll
have to look at the makefile.  But basically if it's not installed XF86Setup
isn't built.

The build does actually print a message to that effect when it's
configuring.  Unfortunately I'm not infront of my machine so I can't give
you exact details right now.

BUT...

What you can do is build and install XFree86, then install QT or TK
whichever it is, and then either rebuild all of XFree or you could just
rebuild XFree86.  Extract the port, cd to the proper dir (under work), and
then make all install.

I don't remember the details off the top of my head.  I can look them up
when I get home from work tonight.  Otherwise, maybe I've given you enough
information to piece the rest together yourself.

-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Karel Joop Bosschaart [SMTP:karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl]
> Sent:	Monday, November 15, 1999 8:02 AM
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> Subject:	Re: Where is XF86Setup when installing Xfree from ports?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 06:58:49AM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> > I was unable to install XFree using sysinstall (alreay post message to
> this regard on the stable lsit) so 
> > I installed it from ports.
> > 
> > I can't find XF86Setup in the bin directory. Is it in a different port?
> 
> The port installs XF86Setup in /usr/X11R6/bin
> 
> Karel.
> 


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At 10:11 PM +0100 11/15/99, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
>Ray Kohler <rjk191@psu.edu> wrote:
>
>> > leon@ra's password: load: 0.17  cmd: ssh1 339 [piperd] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 920k
>>
>> Are you typing this in Eterm? Any time a program running in an Eterm
>> asks for user input, it does this. Not sure why, but if you push ^D
>> twice whenever it happens, it will go away and the program will get on
>> with its business. An explanation or permanent fix would be very
>> welcome, though.
>
>I can tell you what it is that you are seeing but not why you do.
>
>That line is the status display from the tty discipline. You can
>get this by setting a "status" control character with stty and
>entering that character when in canonical mode.
>
>naddy@bigeye[~] stty status ^T
>naddy@bigeye[~] cat >/dev/null
>^Tload: 1.04  cmd: cat 88811 [ttyin] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 96k
>
>How this relates to Eterm, I have no idea.

Eterm must kick into this mode occasionally by itself. I get it all 
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up this load message. Just out of the blue. ?? I have to kill the 
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Hello,

I live in a part of the world where power is very irregular.  In
my short experience with *BSD, I see that UFS has more problems
than ext2 with unclean shutdown.  I lost files in both FreeBSD
and OpenBSD, this was very rare in my 2 years in Linux land.

Is there any way to tweak the sync time?  (sync time for
meta-data in Linux ext2 is 5 secs, configurable).

I am FreeBSD 2.2.6 and OpenBSD 2.4.

Any hints/pointers appreciated.

-- 
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Dear BSDers,

I am a new convert to FreeBSD, so I apologize for this question.

What is the command to show physical memory usage?  I used
vmstat,  but its avm and fre fields are not what I want.  I want
an equivalent to Linux's "free" -- if possible.

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>Hello,
>
>I live in a part of the world where power is very irregular.  In
>my short experience with *BSD, I see that UFS has more problems
>than ext2 with unclean shutdown.  I lost files in both FreeBSD
>and OpenBSD, this was very rare in my 2 years in Linux land.
>
>Is there any way to tweak the sync time?  (sync time for
>meta-data in Linux ext2 is 5 secs, configurable).
>
>I am FreeBSD 2.2.6 and OpenBSD 2.4.
>
>Any hints/pointers appreciated.

   sysctl -w kern.update=5

-DG

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Hi;
I setup VacatIon on my system and here is my .forward file:

\frank  "|/usr/bin/vacation -a frank"

when mail is sent to user frank a copy is sent to local user 'frank' but
the sender does not get a vacation reply message at all!

in /var/log/maillog   I see the following error:

Sendmail: ... to:"|/usr/bin/vacation -a frrank"
ctladder=<frank@pacex.net> .... mailer=prog stat=unknown mailer  error 1

I am running sendmail-8.9.3 on a Fbsd-3.3-STABLE 

Thank you for all help


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At 12:55 AM 11/17/99 +0600, Mojahedul Hoque Abul Hasanat wrote:

>Dear BSDers,

>

>I am a new convert to FreeBSD, so I apologize for this question.

>

>What is the command to show physical memory usage?  I used

>vmstat,  but its avm and fre fields are not what I want.  I want

>an equivalent to Linux's "free" -- if possible.

>


try 'top'


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Hello

I recently bought an Adaptec AAA-131U Hardware RAID controller to put in a
customer's server.  The card has a 7890 chip set, which the FreeBSD
hardware page says it supports, but I can't get FreeBSD installation to see
the array during install.

At this point, I ordered a DPT SmartCache IV RAID controller, as it is
listed on the hardware page, but I'd like to use Adaptec, since I prefer
their hardware to DPT's.

Does anyone know how to get this to work using the Adaptec card?  Or
perhaps any other Adaptec (or other) RAID controllers that work besides the
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cvsup trouble as already said solved but in strange manner*as soon
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On Wednesday, 17 November 1999 at  0:55:02 +0600, Mojahedul Hoque Abul Hasanat wrote:
> Dear BSDers,
>
> I am a new convert to FreeBSD, so I apologize for this question.
>
> What is the command to show physical memory usage?  I used
> vmstat,  but its avm and fre fields are not what I want.  I want
> an equivalent to Linux's "free" -- if possible.

I don't know Linux's free, but I suspect you're looking for a quantity
that doesn't exist.  FreeBSD's memory management is very complex, and
you can't describe things with just a single parameter.  Having said
that, the suggestion of using top is probably a good one.

Greg
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Hi,

Jonathon McKitrick a écrit :
> 
> I understand that 'make world' recompiles the basic system.  I also
> understand that the best way to update ports is to make them then try
> them, then de-install the old ones and re-install the new ones.
> here are 2 questions:
> Is there one command that will rebuild ALL the ports without installing
> them?  Something similar to 'make buildworld', only for the ports
> collection?
Look in the archives, there was a thread on this subject a few weeks
ago.
Chosen excerpt :
<< Nik Clayton has some patches for pkg_version that generate these
commands automatically.
http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/pkg_version.1.diff
http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/pkg_version.diff >>
Thanks to Mark Ovens
This patch allows pkg_version to upgrade ports _installed_ on your box.
If you want to upgrade all ports, you could install them all and run
pkg_version after each cvsup of your ports tree.

> Also, when trying the new version of a port, even though
> the package may have a different name, won't the binary have the same
> name and overwrite the older version?
The only upgrade I've done regularly was mergemaster until it was merged
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Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za> wrote:

> We definitely have flock(2), so you should try to encourage nmh to use
> it if possible.  This might cause problems for folks whose Mail folders
> are on NFS filesystems, so you might consider making it a Makefile knob
> like NMH_MTS and friends.

[Yes - I was thinking of making it a Makefile knob] But, is using
flock(2) the default mode for the "standard" MTAs?  As, I mentioned,
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On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 12:11:14PM -0600, Xingchun Chen wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> When I install FreeBSD (3.3), I chose TWM window manager. But I do not it,
> can someone tell me how to 
> change to another window manager system? 

You make a copy of the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc to your
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hello, 
i need to use pci modem card in the system, i understand that the pci cards
work differently as compare to isa. please advise.
please only reply if you have the answer to the follwoing:

1.	what is the basic things i should look for in a pci card or how it works
differently.
2.	if you know of a model which you use and is currently availabe in the
market.
3.	if there is no support under freebsd at this time.

thanks.. cheers,,bb


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Sheldon Hearn wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:41:54 GMT, Mahesh Sooriyabandara wrote:
>
> > I am planing to setup a freebsd system to run a dummynet. From where or
> > from whom can I get correct and clear information for that. I like to
> > know all the details including hardware requirements. Give me a hint as
> > quickly as possible so that I can start my work.
>
> The dummynet(4) manpage is a good start, although you'll probably also
> end up needing to read up on ipfw(8).
>
> Ciao,
> Sheldon.

I have installed FreeBSD on a PC ( i.e 486DX) using FTP.  System probed the
SMC elite Ethernet card and got connected to the net. Now I want to connect
another SMC elite to the same machine. When I connected it sytem can not
even probe the first one.

* Can I connect two SMC elite ethernet cards. (this is because I saw only
ed0 in the kernel configuration. If so how can I do it?

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Hi, I have to issue this option when setting cgiwrap on my intranet.

--with-httpd-user=USER
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Currently :-

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How do I find out what userid my webserver is running as?

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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Wednesday, 17 November 1999 at  0:55:02 +0600, Mojahedul Hoque Abul Hasanat wrote:
> > Dear BSDers,
> >
> > I am a new convert to FreeBSD, so I apologize for this question.
> >
> > What is the command to show physical memory usage?  I used
> > vmstat,  but its avm and fre fields are not what I want.  I want
> > an equivalent to Linux's "free" -- if possible.
> 
> I don't know Linux's free, but I suspect you're looking for a quantity
> that doesn't exist.  FreeBSD's memory management is very complex, and
> you can't describe things with just a single parameter.  Having said
> that, the suggestion of using top is probably a good one.

I think somewhere in Sun's literature the saying:

 "Free memory is wasted memory."

Applies to FreeBSD as well.

:)

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I'm building a server for the ISP that I'm working for.  I know that
everything will work with FreeBSD but I'm not sure about the Promise UDMA 66
RAID controler.  I need to order the parts today and I would love to use it
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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, danny h wrote:

> Hi, I have to issue this option when setting cgiwrap on my intranet.
> 
> --with-httpd-user=USER
>      define what userid the web server is running as - this is required
> 
> Currently :-
> 
> Running Freebsd 2.2.7
> Running Apache 1_3_6
> 
> Question
> 
> How do I find out what userid my webserver is running as?

ps -aux

?

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I use top to show my memory statistics, sometimes I also use systat -vm 1
to show memory usage a little more detailed. But it is true that FreeBSD's
memory management is a lot more complicated than Linux, but also works
better under a load, which is the point for the complication as I
understand it.


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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, 17 November 1999 at  0:55:02 +0600, Mojahedul Hoque Abul Hasanat wrote:
> > > Dear BSDers,
> > >
> > > I am a new convert to FreeBSD, so I apologize for this question.
> > >
> > > What is the command to show physical memory usage?  I used
> > > vmstat,  but its avm and fre fields are not what I want.  I want
> > > an equivalent to Linux's "free" -- if possible.
> > 
> > I don't know Linux's free, but I suspect you're looking for a quantity
> > that doesn't exist.  FreeBSD's memory management is very complex, and
> > you can't describe things with just a single parameter.  Having said
> > that, the suggestion of using top is probably a good one.
> 
> I think somewhere in Sun's literature the saying:
> 
>  "Free memory is wasted memory."
> 
> Applies to FreeBSD as well.
> 
> :)
> 
> -Alfred
> 
> 
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On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 11:44:59PM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> > I searched the freebsd website and i cannot find any info on the refuse
> > files.
> 
> "man cvsup", and search forward for "REFUSE".
> 

The manpage coverage is a bit weak on refuse files until you've
got it working once. I used John Polstra's FAQ and I submitted a
patch for the manpage to elaborate the refuse file section. John
accepted it and will include it in the next release of cvsup.

> > Since i don't have an etc/vcsup directory, i places that file in the
> > /usr/sup/doc-all directory next to the checkouts files.  Is that the
> > right place?
> 
> Should be. I just have my cvsup stuff under /usr/local/etc/cvsup rather
> than /usr, but it should still work if that's where your checkouts file
> is.
> 
> > CVSup proceeded to DL all the docs again anyway in spite of this, so
> > something must be wrong.
> 
> Shouldn't be, assuming you got the filename right. :-) If you
> can't get it to work after checking the manpage and cvsup FAQ (see
> http://www.polstra.com/)

http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/faq.html

I've rm'd the start of this thread, but if you are trying to avoid
d/l'ing the non-English langauge docs then here is my refuse file
for doing this (and excluding the non-English ports). It's
/usr/sup/refuse:


doc/es* doc/ja* doc/ru* doc/zh*
ports/chinese ports/german ports/japanese ports/korean ports/russian
ports/vietnamese


HTH

> then you could contact CVSup's author, he should be able to help.
> 
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Hi,

A few of my friends and I are having a huge debate on what BSD stands for, 
we have looked everywhere for the anwser. Please settle this for us.

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Hello,

Last week I was asking for an SCSI scanner working with FreeBSD. Thanks
to the SCSI/Scannered/FreeBSDist who answered. This is a summary for the
mailing list record/archives :

Uwe Laverenz <uwe.laverenz@difi.de> says :
>Many of the cheaper scanners seem to have a lousy SCSI interface.
>
>Yes, the 12000SP [Mustek scan Express] runs and is supported by Sane, but 
>it's SCSI interface is really bad.  It worked for me with an additional Asus 
>SC-200 (Symbios 53c810): no termination, the scanner as the only device...
>
>If you buy one of the cheaper scanners, prepare to have an additional
>SCSI controller at hand, if you don't want to use the cheap controller,
>that's delivered with the scanner.

Randall Hopper <aa8vb@ipass.net> says :

>Don't own one of these[12000SP or Epson 1200S], but do own a Microtek E6.  
>Works very nicely with CAM and SANE, even as a GIMP plug-in.  I use it for 
>scanning color prints and for photocopying (beats running to Kinkos).

thomas@hentschel.net says :

>I have a umax astra 1200S, which I'm pretty happy with. SANE needed
>some work, though, to make it run at the time I installed it.

This give me new questions :

It seem that nobody use new Epson scanners ?

Are the HP 6000 familly used by someone ? (someone rich :-)

Are the Agfa SnapScan 1236s able now to scan more than 8bit/sample ?

Thanks

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I think DPT is the only hardware raid available in FreeBSD.. 

Keith



On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, mario wrote:

> I'm building a server for the ISP that I'm working for.  I know that
> everything will work with FreeBSD but I'm not sure about the Promise UDMA 66
> RAID controler.  I need to order the parts today and I would love to use it
> but I need to know it works
> 
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BSD stands for:
Berkeley Software Distribution

-Andy
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A few of my friends and I are having a huge debate on what BSD stands for, 
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Please could you tell me where your company is located.  Thanks.=20
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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Jon Rust wrote:
> Eterm must kick into this mode occasionally by itself. I get it all 
> the time with the delete key. Suddenly, I can't use it, it just spews 
> up this load message. Just out of the blue. ?? I have to kill the 
> window and start a new one to get things back to normal.

I investigated this today and found that my Eterm sets status to
^J. This is really annoying, since ^J is return. I fixed it by
putting the line
stty status ^T
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Which company whould that be?

Erin
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    Hello,

    Please could you tell me where your company is located.  Thanks.
    Shailah

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Nov 16 14:38:14 1999
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Hello,

I have a web server running 3.2-stable and apache-fp.1.3.6.
Everything works fine, except the client-side Java apps.

We call up a web site with a Java app, and get an error:

date, etc, blah blah:  File does not exist: /home/dynamic/public_html/data/DropMenu.class

Looking in the directory in question, though, the file is *definitely* there.

The same file works on an NT IIS box, but not here at all.  Yes, we've
checked filename case.  ;)

Do I have to do anything to get a FreeBSD Apache box to server Java properly?

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Michael


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Hi H-P !

You need to ask your question to the SANE Mailing list.

This is the SANE's web page:

http://www.mostang.com/sane/

The SANE project is cross platform oriented and the developers tend to be
friendly and helpful.

	Happy Scanning!!

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> > I'm trying to set up amanda, and I have a problem.
> >
> > When I run amdump I get the error "taper: FATAL shmget: Cannot allocate
> > memory"
> >
> Does your kernel config have:
>
> options SYSVSHM
> options SYSVSEM
> options SYSVMSG
>
> defined? You may only need the first but I'd probably go with all three.

Yes!

The kernel is configured for SMP, althogh I pulled out one of the
processors,
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hi, 

can someone direct to where in the handbook is there a section
on providing internet access using freebsd?  i've already gone
thru the dial-in server section, as well as the ppp section.
maybe i'm just have a misunderstanding problem.

tia.

yui




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On 16-Nov-99 Paul T. Root wrote:
> In a previous message, Mark Hartley said:
>> 
>> I have searched high and low for the answer to this:  man pages,
>> website, -questions archives, but I have been unable to find the
>> answer so...
>> 
>> 
>> I have a SCSI DAT drive (DDS2) in my FreeBSD3.3-STABLE machine
>> that is working great.  I can backup my partitions with dump,
>> and all works great.  What I want to do is back up a couple of
>> other FreeBSD machines on my local net as well. (one
>> FreeBSD3.2-RELEASE and one FreeBSD2.2.8-STABLE)  I'd like to be
>> able to run one script from the machine with the tape drive and
>> have it cycle through the machines, backing them up one at a
>> time.
> 
>>From the remote machine:
> 
> rdump 0auf tape_machine:/dev/nrst0 filesystem.
> 
>> I've looked into Amanda, but it is overkill for what I want to do.
>> My question is what syntax do I use with dump (or do I use rdump?)
>> to back up the other machines?  What do I need to do on the other
>> machines to enable them to be backed up?
> 
> The tape_machine has to allow root (or bin) from the remote machine
> to login without a password, I believe. You can run this from tape
> machine by putting an rsh (ssh) remote_machine in front of the
> rdump command. And then the remote machine will have to allow root
> (bin) of the tape machine to login without a password.

I guess my question then becomes:  is there a way I can enable the
computers to log on to each other as needed without sacrificing
security?


Mark.





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Whenever i try to su to root in an Eterm I get this message:
bash-2.03$ su
Password:load: 2.00  cmd: su 33433 [ttyin] 0.00u 0.01s 0% 632k

I get the same error no matter what i put in the password field. I just
recently switched to the Black Box window manager. Could this be the
problem? Anyone have any suggestions?




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Today I compiled in my kernel for the first time support my my sound
card, an Ensoniq AudioPCI (es1370). Everything checks out, but I
can't get it to work. Information follows (maybe more than anyone
wanted to know). I'd be most grateful if anyone could help me out on
this.

I put this line in my kernel:
device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0

Then I recompiled it, installed it, and rebooted:
es1: <AudioPCI ES1370> rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0
pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0xee80

And did a "MAKEDEV snd0" in /dev:
[root ~ 05:55pm]$ ls -l /dev/audio* /dev/snd* /dev/dsp*
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         6 Nov 16 17:37 /dev/audio@ ->
audio0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   4 Nov 16 17:37 /dev/audio0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         4 Nov 16 17:37 /dev/dsp@ -> dsp0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   3 Nov 16 17:37 /dev/dsp0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel         5 Nov 16 17:37 /dev/dspW@ -> dspW0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   5 Nov 16 17:37 /dev/dspW0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   6 Nov 16 17:37 /dev/sndstat        

Reading /dev/sndstat gives good results:
[root ~ 05:58pm]$ cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (981002) Nov 16 1999 17:24:04
Installed devices:
pcm1: <ENSONIQ AudioPCI> at 0xee80 irq 0 dma 0:0

But when I try to use the card, I get an error:
[root ~ 05:56pm]$ esd
/dev/dsp: Device not configured
[root ~ 05:56pm]$ ls > /dev/dsp
su: /dev/dsp: Device not configured
[root ~ 05:57pm]$ ls > /dev/audio
su: /dev/audio: Device not configured

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On Tuesday, 16 November 1999 at 14:17:20 -0800, Shailah Menda wrote:
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>
> Please could you tell me where your company is located.  Thanks.

If you mean the FreeBSD Project, we're on the Internet.  We don't have
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sorry, let me rephrase that.
what i'm trying to do is create ppp dial-in server.  done.
now what i would like to do is to provide internet access
from my server to the outside world.  i asked the local 
freebsd guy at work and he told me to take a look at ipfw
and natd man pages (i've also looked at the ppp man page).
if anyone could provide any other hints/info, i'd appreciate
it.  thanks.

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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

> Ariel.zhestianka.de name lookup failure
> Ariel               name lookup failure
> localhost.zhestianka.de  resolved properly
> 
> cvsup trouble as already said solved but in strange manner*as soon
> as i use g and L handles it suddenly can resolve all orderly*
> The question is :Is it an expected way?*as to me both of them *g and L*
> have very marginally to do with network communication but maybe I err
> myself
> 
> What do you think about my host file?Is it messed?

What you've sent as attachment is not the file that is causing all
this trouble, I think. It looks like it is /etc/host.conf.
It is /etc/hosts you want to have a look at. It must have your
hostname plus IP in it, or you get this problem with cvsup. I know,
because I had it :-)

Good luck!


Marc


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Jon Rust <jpr@vcnet.com> wrote:

> Eterm must kick into this mode occasionally by itself. I get it all 
> the time with the delete key. Suddenly, I can't use it, it just spews 
> up this load message.

What does "stty -e" say are the control characters?

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alx <alx@cuba.xs4all.nl> wrote:

> [root@freak distfiles]# scp alxkiste:/usr/ports/distfiles/rdate* .
> root@alxkiste's password:
> scp: Command not found.

That was a problem with the OpenSSH port that has since been fixed.

(The scp command was only looked for in /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, and
/usr/sbin. However, the FreeBSD port installs it to /usr/local/bin.
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Would it be possible for you to set up the ssh auto-login (using
.ssh/authorized_keys) and have rdump set up using sudo?  If you made sudo
able to only run a shell script, then you wouldn't have to worry about
anyone being able to retrieve arbitrary data (altho you already have a
serious compromise if your backup machine is taken over).

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Mark Hartley wrote:

> On 16-Nov-99 Paul T. Root wrote:
> > In a previous message, Mark Hartley said:
> >> 
> >> I have searched high and low for the answer to this:  man pages,
> >> website, -questions archives, but I have been unable to find the
> >> answer so...
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have a SCSI DAT drive (DDS2) in my FreeBSD3.3-STABLE machine
> >> that is working great.  I can backup my partitions with dump,
> >> and all works great.  What I want to do is back up a couple of
> >> other FreeBSD machines on my local net as well. (one
> >> FreeBSD3.2-RELEASE and one FreeBSD2.2.8-STABLE)  I'd like to be
> >> able to run one script from the machine with the tape drive and
> >> have it cycle through the machines, backing them up one at a
> >> time.
> > 
> >>From the remote machine:
> > 
> > rdump 0auf tape_machine:/dev/nrst0 filesystem.
> > 
> >> I've looked into Amanda, but it is overkill for what I want to do.
> >> My question is what syntax do I use with dump (or do I use rdump?)
> >> to back up the other machines?  What do I need to do on the other
> >> machines to enable them to be backed up?
> > 
> > The tape_machine has to allow root (or bin) from the remote machine
> > to login without a password, I believe. You can run this from tape
> > machine by putting an rsh (ssh) remote_machine in front of the
> > rdump command. And then the remote machine will have to allow root
> > (bin) of the tape machine to login without a password.
> 
> I guess my question then becomes:  is there a way I can enable the
> computers to log on to each other as needed without sacrificing
> security?
> 
> 
> Mark.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Ray Kohler wrote:
> 
> Today I compiled in my kernel for the first time support my my sound
> card, an Ensoniq AudioPCI (es1370). Everything checks out, but I
> can't get it to work. Information follows (maybe more than anyone
> wanted to know). I'd be most grateful if anyone could help me out on
> this.
> 
> I put this line in my kernel:
> device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0
> 
> Then I recompiled it, installed it, and rebooted:
> es1: <AudioPCI ES1370> rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0
> pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0xee80
> 
> And did a "MAKEDEV snd0" in /dev:

I think you have to do a "MAKEDEV snd1" in /dev since the card probed as
pcm1.

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Is there any chance that we will soon see CASE tools for FreeBSD that will
degenerate programs into bloated buggy apps like MS offers?

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Dear Sir/Madam,

I need to know if BSD is up to this task.
As I am going to be installing a unix-based server for an ISP, I have
the following questions:

1.  The server(s) will be the main machines for the ISP; providing the
    basic internet access, pop, ftp, services.
    Is BSD up to this?
                   
2.  What type of configuration (hardware/software) would you reccomend
    for about 15000 users?
    The 1st 6 months will have about 3500 users simultaneously.
                   
3.  Is there anything else I should bear in mind while seting up the
    system?



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	http://www.kdevelop.org

	Wahooooo!

	marc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathon McKitrick [mailto:jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org]
> Subject: VC++ for FreeBSD?
> 
> Is there any chance that we will soon see CASE tools for 
> FreeBSD that will
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Mark Hartley wrote:
> >
> > rdump 0auf tape_machine:/dev/nrst0 filesystem.
> >
> >> I've looked into Amanda, but it is overkill for what I want to do.
> >> My question is what syntax do I use with dump (or do I use rdump?)
> >> to back up the other machines?  What do I need to do on the other
> >> machines to enable them to be backed up?
> >
> > The tape_machine has to allow root (or bin) from the remote machine
> > to login without a password, I believe. You can run this from tape
> > machine by putting an rsh (ssh) remote_machine in front of the
> > rdump command. And then the remote machine will have to allow root
> > (bin) of the tape machine to login without a password.
> 
> I guess my question then becomes:  is there a way I can enable the
> computers to log on to each other as needed without sacrificing
> security?

	Using rsa authentication with ssh may be the best bet for getting
around the interactive password problem and keeping a reasonable level
of security.  Unfortunately I haven't had the time to play rsa
authentication is ssh to make it work, but from everything I've read
about it thus far it seems to be the best mix ( see the ssh manpage for
more info ).
 

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On 16 Nov 1999 09:22:04 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I am attempting to install ssh from the ports collection under v3.3 when
>I do a make install it consistently fails to find a patch called
>
>            patch-ssh-1.2.27-bsd.tty.chown
>
>I have attempted to retrieve this patch manually but cannot locate it.
>Could anyone shed somelight on its whereabouts please ?

I have put up a copy on one of my servers...

fetch ftp://coal.sentex.ca/patch-ssh-1.2.27-bsd.tty.chown

	---Mike
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On 16 Nov 1999 15:08:27 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:

>Does anyone know how to get this to work using the Adaptec card?  Or
>perhaps any other Adaptec (or other) RAID controllers that work besides the
>DPT one?


I beleive you can use the Adaptec card as a regular SCSI controller, but
not as a RAID controller.  As for hardware RAID controllers, DPT is an
option, but you might want to wait a bit and use either the Mylex or
AMIMegaRAID controllers. I have been using both in testing machines, and so
far they perform quite well.  But the drivers are still experimental.
However, they should be release quality by the time 3.4 gets released from
what I am told.

	---Mike
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On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 03:33:19PM -0800, Yan Pan wrote:

> I'd like to know how to reset the root password for FreeBSD v2.2.5

You boot the machine up in single user mode. (-s flag on boot).

	mount -a
	passwd root

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I installed the entire source tree on my box, recompiled a new 
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Is there any reason to keep the /usr/src directory, or can I just rm 
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The only reason I ask is that /usr is 95% full.

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On 16 Nov 1999 16:18:33 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:

>I'm building a server for the ISP that I'm working for.  I know that
>everything will work with FreeBSD but I'm not sure about the Promise UDMA 66
>RAID controler.  I need to order the parts today and I would love to use it
>but I need to know it works

It doesnt, and its doubtful that there will be support for that particular
controller. Search the archives for a fairly recent discussion as to why
there probably wont be support for it.  If you want RAID, the AMI MegaRAID
and Mylex controllers will soon be supported in 3.4.  They are in current
now, and so far so good (in my limited testing anyways).

	---Mike
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On 16 Nov 1999 18:26:27 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:

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passwd root

If you have forgotten it, then reboot into single user mode... If I recall
correctly, at the boot prompt before the kernel gets loaded etc, type in
-s 
for single user mode.  Then when you get to a shell prompt, you must do a 
mount -u /
mount /usr
passwd root
sync;shutdown -r now

Its also in the FAQ.

	---Mike
Mike Tancsa  (mdtancsa@sentex.net)		
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Mike Tancsa wrote:
> On 16 Nov 1999 16:18:33 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:
>
> >I'm building a server for the ISP that I'm working for.  I know that
> >everything will work with FreeBSD but I'm not sure about the Promise UDMA
> >66 RAID controler. I need to order the parts today and I would love to use
> >it but I need to know it works
>
> It doesnt, and its doubtful that there will be support for that particular
> controller. Search the archives for a fairly recent discussion as to why
> there probably wont be support for it.  If you want RAID, the AMI MegaRAID
> and Mylex controllers will soon be supported in 3.4.  They are in current
> now, and so far so good (in my limited testing anyways).
>
Also have a look at www.arcoide.com, DupliDisk works with any OS I tossed at  
it so far.

Gerd


> ---Mike
> Mike Tancsa  (mdtancsa@sentex.net)		
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I just made world on FreeBSD 3.3 enabled NFS Server and rebooted. The error
is:

Doing additional network setup: named portmap
Starting final Network Daemons: mountd nfsd rpc.statd nfsd
:[133]: can't register with udp portmap
cannot register service: RPC: Timed out
rpc.statd: unable to register (SM_PROG, SM_VERS, udp)

But I can mount remote file systems and filesystems are exported.

Nathaniel Schein
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it is integrated with every Microsoft product.




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>>Does anyone know how to get this to work using the Adaptec card?  Or
>>perhaps any other Adaptec (or other) RAID controllers that work besides the
>>DPT one?
>
>I beleive you can use the Adaptec card as a regular SCSI controller, but
>not as a RAID controller.  As for hardware RAID controllers, DPT is an
>option, but you might want to wait a bit and use either the Mylex or
>AMIMegaRAID controllers. I have been using both in testing machines, and so
>far they perform quite well.  But the drivers are still experimental.
>However, they should be release quality by the time 3.4 gets released from
>what I am told.

Is the DPT card no good?  I guess that's my main concern.  I never heard of
DPT until I checked the hardware list.  Out of curiosity, do you know why
FreeBSD is not choosing to support the Adaptec card?  I consider Adaptec to
be somewhat of a defacto standard when it comes to SCSI/RAID controllers,
and I can't imagine why it wasn't one the first ones supported.

Tim

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At 07:49 PM 11/16/99 , Tim Gustafson wrote:
>Is the DPT card no good?  I guess that's my main concern.  I never heard of
>DPT until I checked the hardware list.  Out of curiosity, do you know why
>FreeBSD is not choosing to support the Adaptec card?  I consider Adaptec to
>be somewhat of a defacto standard when it comes to SCSI/RAID controllers,
>and I can't imagine why it wasn't one the first ones supported.

No idea about the quality of the DPT cards.  I have heard good things about
the hardware, but its the quality of drivers that ultimately must also be
considered.  As for the Adaptec, its not a matter of wanting to support it
or not, its a matter of does Adaptec release programming information about
the workings of the controller to the developer community so that they can
then write a driver for it.  My understanding is that Adaptec has chosen
not to do this, or at least not to do it in a way that would conform with
BSD licensing requirements.

	---Mike
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Mike Tancsa wrote:
> I have put up a copy on one of my servers...
> fetch ftp://coal.sentex.ca/patch-ssh-1.2.27-bsd.tty.chown

Ditto. Am happy to leave it there until it's no longer needed:

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#Showmount -e
RPC: Port mapper failure
showmount: can't do exports rpc


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I just made world on FreeBSD 3.3 enabled NFS Server and rebooted. The error
is:

Doing additional network setup: named portmap
Starting final Network Daemons: mountd nfsd rpc.statd nfsd
:[133]: can't register with udp portmap
cannot register service: RPC: Timed out
rpc.statd: unable to register (SM_PROG, SM_VERS, udp)

But I can mount remote file systems and filesystems are exported.

Nathaniel Schein
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Failure is not an option...
it is integrated with every Microsoft product.




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Does your server support Rage 128 chips? Rage 128 Xpert 16MB?



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Yes.
Checkout www.freebsd.org

-Andy

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Does your server support Rage 128 chips? Rage 128 Xpert 16MB?



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Okay, okay, i give up.. you win.  Unfortunately, sometimes we computer
fans forget that the general populous doesn't want what we want.  We
like toys, and tinkering.  Most people want Plug 'n' Play.  We want
flexibility, they want simplicity.  So, on that count Microsoft wins.
They have made a simpler, easier, more limited and trimmed down OS that
gives most people exactly what they want: a $1000 typewriter, index card
file, web surfer, calculator, and video game.  So they win.  Unix is
powerful, but you have to have a degree, serious book education, or
insatiably curiosity along with free time to use it.

I do feel, however, that the judge had some salient points about the
techniques Microsoft used to accomplish its purposes.  I don't think
they were all ideal examples of the competition intended by capitalism.

I only hope there is a revolution around the corner that will be
powerful enough to stop the Microsoft juggernaut.  And I think it would
be more gratifying if that defeat came from a better product, rather
than from a government decision.



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mideyon wrote:
> 
> Whenever i try to su to root in an Eterm I get this message:
> bash-2.03$ su
> Password:load: 2.00  cmd: su 33433 [ttyin] 0.00u 0.01s 0% 632k
> 
> I get the same error no matter what i put in the password field. I just
> recently switched to the Black Box window manager. Could this be the
> problem? Anyone have any suggestions?
> 
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I have the same problem, but it only happens after I install gnome. So now I
don't use gnome, just enlightenment.

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Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> wrote:

> If you mean the FreeBSD Project, we're on the Internet.  We don't have
> a physical location.

Actually, planet Earth seems accurate.

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Mark Hartley <mark@whetstonelogic.com> wrote:

> I guess my question then becomes:  is there a way I can enable the
> computers to log on to each other as needed without sacrificing
> security?

Use ssh. I suggest rhosts-RSA authentication.

rdump uses the rcmd(3) interface which doesn't pass over ssh. You would
have to dump to stdout and forward this explicitly over ssh, e.g.

    dump 0f - / | ssh tapehost buffer -o /dev/rsa0

The basic command on the tape host to write the incoming dump
archive to tape would be "dd of=/dev/rsa0 bs=10k", but I strongly
suggest using a buffering command like ports/misc/{buffer,team}.

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Ray Kohler <rjk191@psu.edu> wrote:

> I investigated this today and found that my Eterm sets status to
> ^J.

This is clearly a bug that should be investigated.
(I don't use Eterm.)

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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Ben Speirs wrote:

> Ray Kohler wrote:
> > es1: <AudioPCI ES1370> rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0
> > pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0xee80
> > 
> > And did a "MAKEDEV snd0" in /dev:
> 
> I think you have to do a "MAKEDEV snd1" in /dev since the card probed as
> pcm1.

Right. This worked, in fact I found it in the archives _after_ I
posted the question, sorry about annoying the list with a
FAQ.  That's the first time I discovered the archives...

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On 17 Nov 1999, Christian Weisgerber wrote:

> Ray Kohler <rjk191@psu.edu> wrote:
> 
> > I investigated this today and found that my Eterm sets status to
> > ^J.
> 
> This is clearly a bug that should be investigated.
> (I don't use Eterm.)

I agree. I've also used Eterm 0.8.10 (the problem is there too), but
don't now since 0.8.9 is the version in the ports and I've developed
an aversion to compiling things myself <G>. It is noteworthy to
mention that I used Eterm under Linux very recently and this problem
doesn't exist there (does Linxu even have status?).

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Hi,

Coming ompletely out of left field here ...

Why not use NFS? You just mount the filesystems read only on the machine
with the tape drive and do the backups with (as I've just realised :-)
something other than dump. This could also make restores easier, maybe,
perhaps, possibly, ...

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1)  How many scsi hard drives will the system support at once?

2)  Is anyone doing work to overcome the 4GB Memory maximum?

3-4)  <OFFTOPIC>Does anybody have any links to or information regarding
how much storage space realmedia encoded clips might take up?  Does
anyone know of good mass storage devices (presumably SCSI-SCSI I
suppose) that work well with FreeBSD? (And will it look like one drive
or many?)
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Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> 
> Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> wrote:
> 
> > If you mean the FreeBSD Project, we're on the Internet.  We don't have
> > a physical location.
> 
> Actually, planet Earth seems accurate.

For now... :)

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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, chuck sumner wrote:

> I installed the entire source tree on my box, recompiled a new 
> kernel, and everything is working fine.
> 
> Is there any reason to keep the /usr/src directory, or can I just rm 
> -rf /usr/src?
> 
> The only reason I ask is that /usr is 95% full.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> PLEASE ACT ACCORDINGLY.
>
you might want to keep your kernel configuration file.

or possibly just /usr/src/sys (which includes the config file) so
you could build another kernel with the same sources if you wanted
to add something

sometimes I tar up /usr/src and /usr/obj and save them somewhere
so I can reinstall, or install on another drive.

you might find some files you don't need in /usr/ports/distfiles,
too; or in work directories of ports you've already installed

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I have a technical question in regards to installing FreeBSD.  Right
now, i am suffering in this stultified Windows environment and need
help.  I've managed to figure out and successfully set up just about
everything with FreeBSD except for one, glaring aspect.  I cannot
install the boot manager to my first hard drive, nor can i access the
boot sector using the FreeBSD set up program.  The truth is, i have
installed FreeBSD on my second hard drive.  Well, i've thus far had to
reinstall at least 15 or more times in the past 3 days because i cannot
get FreeBSD to boot up.  I've tried editing the BIOS to boot from my D:
drive (my second drive where FreeBSD is located), but it didn't work
(and that makes life harder for other people using the computer who
don't want to use FreeBSD anyway). I've tried numerous ways, inside the
fdisk/partitioning part of the setup utility to do this as well.  The
main problem is, that the boot manager is ineffectual.  It does
nothing.  I am not able to INSTALL the system on my second drive, then
go back, change the selected drive to my first one, and INSTALL the boot
manager into the boot sector of my first hard drive (where windows, etc.
is located).  This is driving me insane and i sincerely hope that some
kind soul out there can help me, and that i will not be abused for
asking this question.  The documentation i have read on the matter (in
"The Complete FreeBSD 3" book and in the Website's numerous sections)
haven't helped me one iota.  Every one of their suggestions could not be
implemented.  So anyway, i'll shutup now, but the long and the short of
it is:  Can i go back and install the boot manager into the boot sector
of my first hard drive, (drive C:), after installing FreeBSD on my
second physical drive, (drive D:).  And, fyi, the C: drive is the
primary master and the D: drive is the primary slave.  I thank anyone
who can help me in this matter.


will


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Hey will...

Not sure exactly where your problem is going wrong... I've read your text a
couple times and get lost in the circles.  You said a lot, but I don't
think you provided much in the end :)

Did you actually succeed in getting FreeBSD to install (not boot, but
install) to your second drive, or not?  And what boot manager are you
trying to use?  

--John

>I have a technical question in regards to installing FreeBSD.  Right
>now, i am suffering in this stultified Windows environment and need
>help.  I've managed to figure out and successfully set up just about
>everything with FreeBSD except for one, glaring aspect.  I cannot
>install the boot manager to my first hard drive, nor can i access the
>boot sector using the FreeBSD set up program.  The truth is, i have
>installed FreeBSD on my second hard drive.  Well, i've thus far had to
>reinstall at least 15 or more times in the past 3 days because i cannot
>get FreeBSD to boot up.  I've tried editing the BIOS to boot from my D:
>drive (my second drive where FreeBSD is located), but it didn't work
>(and that makes life harder for other people using the computer who
>don't want to use FreeBSD anyway). I've tried numerous ways, inside the
>fdisk/partitioning part of the setup utility to do this as well.  The
>main problem is, that the boot manager is ineffectual.  It does
>nothing.  I am not able to INSTALL the system on my second drive, then
>go back, change the selected drive to my first one, and INSTALL the boot
>manager into the boot sector of my first hard drive (where windows, etc.
>is located).  This is driving me insane and i sincerely hope that some
>kind soul out there can help me, and that i will not be abused for
>asking this question.  The documentation i have read on the matter (in
>"The Complete FreeBSD 3" book and in the Website's numerous sections)
>haven't helped me one iota.  Every one of their suggestions could not be
>implemented.  So anyway, i'll shutup now, but the long and the short of
>it is:  Can i go back and install the boot manager into the boot sector
>of my first hard drive, (drive C:), after installing FreeBSD on my
>second physical drive, (drive D:).  And, fyi, the C: drive is the
>primary master and the D: drive is the primary slave.  I thank anyone
>who can help me in this matter.
>
>
>will
>
>
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Subject: Re: SAMBA / 3.3-Stable / transfer delay
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rik van Mierlo <rik@ricardis.tudelft.nl>
To: Edirol <edirol@anime.ca>
Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>; Marty Cawthon <mrc@ChipChat.com>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: SAMBA / 3.3-Stable / transfer delay
[---cut---]

This may be somewhat delayed and even unrelated but I had serious
problems getting Samba 2.0.5a from the ports to work properly in
relation to speed over my local network (sending and receiving files
from the Samba server on the FreeBSD box) After hunting and a low I
finally fixed it, I hope this helps someone:

sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0

and in smb.conf:

socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY SO_SENDBUF=65535
SO_RCVBUF=65535

Now Samba works like a champ. My specs: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE, Samba 2.0.5a
w/patch-ah running over a 100Base-TX full duplex LAN.

The following is tests conducted before and after the above
recomendations sending and receiving to the FreeBSD samba volume using
smbclient. My Winsux9x/NT client boxes also gave roughly the same speed
(and increases afterwards) give-or-take a few 100 bytes.

------------------------------------------
smbclient statistics before finding solution:
------------------------------------------
smbclient "//deepthought/public" stn2 -U stn2 -d 3 -N -c "get
acdc3223.exe"
Client started (version 2.0.5a).
resolve_name: Attempting lmhosts lookup for name deepthought<0x20>
resolve_name: Attempting host lookup for name deepthought<0x20>
Connecting to 192.168.1.1 at port 139
Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 2.0.5a]
dos_clean_name [\\acdc3223.exe]
getting file acdc3223.exe of size 1448082 as acdc3223.exe (107.58 kb/s)
(average 107.58 kb/s)

smbclient "//deepthought/public" stn2 -U stn2 -d 3 -N -c "put
acdc3223.exe"
Client started (version 2.0.5a).
resolve_name: Attempting lmhosts lookup for name deepthought<0x20>
resolve_name: Attempting host lookup for name deepthought<0x20>
Connecting to 192.168.1.1 at port 139
Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 2.0.5a]
dos_clean_name [\\acdc3223.exe]
putting file acdc3223.exe as \acdc3223.exe (79.99 kb/s) (average 79.99
kb/s)

----------------------------------------
smbclient statistics after finding solution:
----------------------------------------
smbclient "//deepthought/public" stn2 -U stn2 -d 3 -N -c "get
acdc3223.exe"
Client started (version 2.0.5a).
resolve_name: Attempting lmhosts lookup for name deepthought<0x20>
resolve_name: Attempting host lookup for name deepthought<0x20>
Connecting to 192.168.1.1 at port 139
Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 2.0.5a]
dos_clean_name [\\acdc3223.exe]
getting file acdc3223.exe of size 1448082 as acdc3223.exe (12514.5 kb/s)
(average 12514.5 kb/s)

smbclient "//deepthought/public" stn2 -U stn2 -d 3 -N -c "put
acdc3223.exe"
Client started (version 2.0.5a).
resolve_name: Attempting lmhosts lookup for name deepthought<0x20>
resolve_name: Attempting host lookup for name deepthought<0x20>
Connecting to 192.168.1.1 at port 139
Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 2.0.5a]
dos_clean_name [\\acdc3223.exe]
putting file acdc3223.exe as \acdc3223.exe (2740.59 kb/s) (average
2740.59 kb/s)



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Subject: Re: Some quickies
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On 16 Nov 1999 22:35:36 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:

>1)  How many scsi hard drives will the system support at once?

I would think you could cram in 15 per SCSI card.  But if you are
considering approaching anywhere near that limit, I would imagine looking
at an external RAID array would make far more sense.

>2)  Is anyone doing work to overcome the 4GB Memory maximum?

Dont know.

>3-4)  <OFFTOPIC>Does anybody have any links to or information regarding
>how much storage space realmedia encoded clips might take up?  Does
>anyone know of good mass storage devices (presumably SCSI-SCSI I
>suppose) that work well with FreeBSD? (And will it look like one drive
>or many?)

One big drive if you like.  For discussions on external RAID boxes, perhaps
browse through the relavant newsgroups (e.g. comp.arch.storage,
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage etc...)  Search through the FreeBSD
mailing archives. This topic has come up several times before, and there
are some excellent informative and well thought out posts.

Remember from the ftp.cdrom.com banner...

230-This machine is a Xeon/500 with 4GB of memory & 1/2 terabyte of RAID 5.
230-NetFRAME 9201 server machine provided by Micron Electronics. Please
visit
230-http://www.micronpc.com/web/walnutcreek.html.

That might be a starting point...

	---Mike
Mike Tancsa  (mdtancsa@sentex.net)		
Sentex Communications Corp,   		
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
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could setup a national IP network." (KDW2)


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Will the OS support however many i manage to cram in, or is there some
maximum?  ie if I had 6 SCSI cards with 15 drives each will FreeBSD deal
with the 90 drives that'd come to?

Mike Tancsa wrote:
> 
> On 16 Nov 1999 22:35:36 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote:
> 
> >1)  How many scsi hard drives will the system support at once?
> 
> I would think you could cram in 15 per SCSI card.  But if you are
> considering approaching anywhere near that limit, I would imagine looking
> at an external RAID array would make far more sense.
> 


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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:02:21 +0100, Karel Joop Bosschaart wrote:

>> I was unable to install XFree using sysinstall (alreay post message to this regard on the stable lsit) so 
>> I installed it from ports.
>> 
>> I can't find XF86Setup in the bin directory. Is it in a different port?
>
>The port installs XF86Setup in /usr/X11R6/bin

I found the problem. XF86Setup requires TCL/TK installed.



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Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net> wrote:

> I have put up a copy on one of my servers...
> fetch ftp://coal.sentex.ca/patch-ssh-1.2.27-bsd.tty.chown

Or you can simply use OpenSSH.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Tue Nov 16 23: 6:50 1999
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Dear Sir,
     I have some problems relate to how to use gated.
My test bed constructed by two level network, the
lower is ATM network(three ATM switchs which fully
connected). And three routers running freebsd(each one
connect to one ATM switch). What I want to do is to
use Rip or ospf as dynamic routing. But I found
problem, the following is I copied from the trace
file:
Nov 16 22:45:06 
Nov 16 22:45:06 task_send_packet: task RIP.0.0.0.0+520
socket 10 length 24 flags MSG_DONTROUTE(4) to
172.16.9.255+520: Can't assign requested address
Nov 16 22:45:06 RIP *NOT* SENT 172.16.9.212 ->
172.16.9.255+520 vers 1, cmd Request, length 24
	routing table request 

I defined a interface of pvc for ip address
172.16.9.212 , I think the problem might come from I
do not define broadcast on ATM network. 
My question is "Is there anyway for me to define gated
to send routing information without use broadcast ?

After I start gated for 180 seconds, this message will
come out from my screen:
Nov 17:00:48:42 r2 mimic gated[10187]:if_rtdown:
DOWN route for interface ni0 172.16.9.212/255.255.255
My another question is what does this sentence mean?
Is any documents I could use to find information
relate to this?

I am really appreciate of your help to give me any
suggestion?
dijiang


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From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To: clatter <clatter@crosswinds.net>
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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, clatter wrote:

> I have a technical question in regards to installing FreeBSD.  Right
> now, i am suffering in this stultified Windows environment and need
> help.  I've managed to figure out and successfully set up just about
> everything with FreeBSD except for one, glaring aspect.  I cannot
> install the boot manager to my first hard drive, nor can i access the
> boot sector using the FreeBSD set up program.  The truth is, i have
> installed FreeBSD on my second hard drive.  Well, i've thus far had to
> reinstall at least 15 or more times in the past 3 days because i cannot
> get FreeBSD to boot up.  I've tried editing the BIOS to boot from my D:
> drive (my second drive where FreeBSD is located), but it didn't work
> (and that makes life harder for other people using the computer who
> don't want to use FreeBSD anyway). I've tried numerous ways, inside the
> fdisk/partitioning part of the setup utility to do this as well.  The
> main problem is, that the boot manager is ineffectual.  It does
> nothing.  I am not able to INSTALL the system on my second drive, then
> go back, change the selected drive to my first one, and INSTALL the boot
> manager into the boot sector of my first hard drive (where windows, etc.
> is located).  This is driving me insane and i sincerely hope that some
> kind soul out there can help me, and that i will not be abused for
> asking this question.  The documentation i have read on the matter (in
> "The Complete FreeBSD 3" book and in the Website's numerous sections)
> haven't helped me one iota.  Every one of their suggestions could not be
> implemented.  So anyway, i'll shutup now, but the long and the short of
> it is:  Can i go back and install the boot manager into the boot sector
> of my first hard drive, (drive C:), after installing FreeBSD on my
> second physical drive, (drive D:).  And, fyi, the C: drive is the
> primary master and the D: drive is the primary slave.  I thank anyone
> who can help me in this matter.

Whoa... put the coffee cup down...

There are many solutions to problems that happen when you do this
sort of thing (install onto a second disk) however the variations
of second disk installs varies greatly.

please detail the end result you wish to achieve:

1) freebsd installed on second IDE disk.
2) freebsd installed on first IDE disk.
3) dual boot, DOS/Win on first disk, FreeBSD on second.

now, tell us what happens when you try any _single_ one of these,
it's pretty hard to fork off into 3 different install options
in a single email.

choose a goal then tell us the error/problem you get _exactly_.

thanks,
-Alfred



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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:26:01 PST, Scott Blachowicz wrote:

> [Yes - I was thinking of making it a Makefile knob] But, is using
> flock(2) the default mode for the "standard" MTAs?

Aaah, so this is locking on the file in /var/mail?  I thought it was for
nmh's Mail folders.

In that case, I have nothing to contribute. ;-)

Later,
Sheldon.


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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:05:44 GMT, Mahesh Sooriyabandara wrote:

> I have installed FreeBSD on a PC ( i.e 486DX) using FTP.  System probed the
> SMC elite Ethernet card and got connected to the net. Now I want to connect
> another SMC elite to the same machine. When I connected it sytem can not
> even probe the first one.

You probably encountered a resource conflict.  For example, both cards
might be configured to use the same IRQ.  Configure the cards to use
resources that aren't used by each other nor by other peripherals in the
system and you should be fine.

You'll need an ed1 for the second card once the hardware's sorted out.
:-)

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 03:55:39 -0200, Wise Son wrote:

> 1.  The server(s) will be the main machines for the ISP; providing the
>     basic internet access, pop, ftp, services.
>     Is BSD up to this?

Yes, although you'd need to be more specific about "services".

The biggest problem you're going to have on your hands is choosing the
software to offer each service. :-)

There are loads of POP3, SMTP and FTP server packages available and
everyone's got opinions.  I'm not going to give you my opinions because
that'll give everyone else license to give you theirs and it'll never
end.

Rather, let me give you the names of some big players and you can dig
through newsgroups and mailing list archives to find out what people
have said in the past:

	POP3:
		Qualcomm Popper
		IMAP UW (University of Washington)
		Cubic Circle Popper (cucipop)

	SMTP:
		Sendmail	(in the FreeBSD base system)
		Exim
		Postfix
		Qmail

	FTP:
		Berkeley FTPD	(in the FreeBSD base system)
		UW-FTP (University of Washington)
		ProFTPD

All I'll say here is: of the listed POP3 daemons, the Qualcomm Popper is
the slowest; of the SMTP daemons, Sendmail is the slowest; of the FTP
deamons, Berkeley FTPD offers the smallest set of features.

> 2.  What type of configuration (hardware/software) would you reccomend
>     for about 15000 users?

Phew, that _really_ depends on how many of those users are doing how
much at a time.  Do you have any more detail on the expected usage?

The most important thing when purchasing hardware for use with
FreeBSD is to make sure FreeBSD supports it.  A couple of general
recommendations:

	Gigabyte or Asus motherboards.
	Adaptec SCSI controllers.
	SCSI hard drives.

Don't try to cut costs on these, nor on memory.  Specifically, stay away
from IDE hard drives if at all possible.  They're a cost alternative
that isn't appropriate to the of application you have on your hands.

> 3.  Is there anything else I should bear in mind while seting up the
>     system?

That depends on your experience with UNIX in general. :-)

Suffice it to say that the single most important thing when setting up a
box to offer services like these is to READ THE DOCUMENTATION that comes
with the packages you choose to use.  There's a big difference between
skimming documentation for just enough information to get things
running, and actually reading it. :-)

Good luck!

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:53:17 +0100, "Stefan Horak" wrote:

> We plan to sell FreeBSD-CDs as well, would that be okay? If yes, is
> there a listing were you can add us as a distributor?

Hi Stefan,

Thanks for your interest in FreeBSD.  I have passed your query on to our
release engineer.  You should get a reply shortly.

Regards,
Sheldon.


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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:12:32 PST, daniel B wrote:

> I setup VacatIon on my system and here is my .forward file:
> 
> \frank  "|/usr/bin/vacation -a frank"

I just check the vacation(1) manual page and it looks like you may have
left something out there.  Specifically, you've left out at least a
comma.

Check out the example in the manual page, which should help you diagnose
your problem:

	man vacation

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:37:32 EST, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> I only hope there is a revolution around the corner that will be
> powerful enough to stop the Microsoft juggernaut.  And I think it would
> be more gratifying if that defeat came from a better product, rather
> than from a government decision.

Please keep this sort of off-topic banter to the freebsd-chat mailing
list. :-)

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Hello.
I would like to install a quick cam on my freebsd system and attach it to
the parallel port so that I can always look at people who is sitting on
the console, because I am the administrator and I am in an other location
not on the console.
Does FreeBSD support some quick cam model for parallel port and how then
to manage the camera, is there soe software for FreeBSD ??

thanks

Rick




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Digest:  This message reports on the corruption of file attachments in
messages passing certain BSD UNIX mail exchangers.  The corruption =
affects messages sent using Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express mail =
clients.  It may affect other clients also  The corrupted file =
attachments are about 30% larger than the non-corrupted form.  A small =
part of the increase appears to be the insertion of CRLF at 76 character =
intervals.  I have reported this as a bug to FreeBSD.org but one of low =
priority.

Problem description:

My employer company's new mail system comprises a Microsoft Exchange =
server
version 5.5 SP2 protected by a FreeBSD UNIX version 2.2.5 firewall =
running
TIS Firewall Tookit.  Clients are Microsoft Outlook 98 (plus a few cases =
of
Outlook 97), Microsoft Outlook Express, mostly version 4 but in some =
cases
version 5, and Microsoft Internet Explorer versions 4 or 5 using Outlook =
Web
Access.  Most Outlook and Outlook Express clients are configured for
Internet Only use and for IMAP mailboxes.  All the clients on which =
tests
have been performed are configured in this way.  The internal clients =
use
the FreeBSD machine as their smtp server.  The system has run very
satisfactorily for about a year and a half.

About three weeks ago a new smtp server was installed outside the =
firewall.
This runs FreeBSD UNIX version 3.1.  Almost immediately reports began to
come in of corrupted file attachments.  Hitherto only Microsoft Word and
Excel documents have been examined since these were readily available.  =
The
new smtp server was at first assumed to be the cause and was taken out =
of
the system, whereupon the level of reports reduced drastically but did =
not
disappear altogether.  Upon further investigation it appears that the
problem has arisen spasmodically since at least the beginning of October
1999, and the assumption that it was solely associated with the =
installation
of the new smtp server was proved to be false.  However, the significant
increase in reports when the new server was introduced into the system =
and
equally significant reduction was taken to indicate a strong causal
relationship.

Further investigation confirmed that the problem had not disappeared =
with
the removal of the smtp server.  Mail passing in one direction from an
account with one local Internet service provider to our company Exchange
server could be relied upon to corrupt file attachments provided the =
client
program was configured for html format.  Mail passing out from our =
Exchange
server to the same account was apparently not affected.  Mail to and =
from accounts with two other major Internet service providers passed =
without corruption of the file attachments.  File attachments to mail =
from our Exchange server back to our Exchange server routed via the new =
smtp server were also corrupted in a reproducible manner.  This latter =
fact confirmed that version 3.1 of FreeBSD UNIX was one of the factors =
causing the corruption.  The discovery that the ISP which corrupted file =
attachments also uses a BSD variety of UNIX on
their mail exchangers - it is not at present known which variety of BSD =
is involved - whereas both the other ISPs use Sun Solaris UNIX =
strengthens the hypothesis that the problem lies in late versions of BSD =
UNIX.  One further item of information which may be relevant is that the =
ISP which corrupted file
attachments also uses Exchange server for customers' mailboxes.

What I have done:

I have made extensive tests of sending mail with file attachments from =
one
internal account and three external accounts with different ISPs to the
other accounts.

I have tested the sending of mail with file attachments via the smtp =
server
running FreeBSD UNIX version 3.1

I have established that the corruption only happens when the clients are
configured for html format, which is, of course, the default for Outlook
Express but not for Outlook in which the default is plain text unless =
the
installer accepts the suggestion that Microsoft Word be used as the =
email
editor.

What I have not done:

I have not tested all the configurations of html format (no coding, =
quoted
printable, base64, allow 8-bit headers and allow only English headers in
replies) formally but a simple test indicates that it is the selection =
of
html format rather than its detailed configuration which causes the =
problem.

I have not tested non-Microsoft mail client programs.  I do not have the
resources to do so, since my company only uses Microsoft mail clients.

I have not tested file attachments other than Microsoft Word and =
Microsoft
Excel since no others have been reported and since these two products =
are
our most significant generators of file attachments.

I have not tested different versions of BSD UNIX to see in which version =
the
problem arose.

I have not tested whether the existence of an Exchange server at both =
ends
of the link is significant but the fact that the problem is =
unidirectional
suggests that it is not significant.  On the other hand, the fact that =
only the ISP using Exchange server for client mailboxes can reproduce =
the problem suggests a link also to Exchange server.

I have not thoroughly tested OWA.  I can confirm that OWA mail from our
Exchange server to our Exchange server is not affected.

I have not ascertained how widespread the problem is.  I do know that =
mail
from our branch offices to the home office and vice versa were affected
during the time the new smtp server was in place, and not since.  Mail =
from
outsiders to our company was and is occasionally affected but I have not
been able to determine a pattern.  Similarly mail from us to outsiders =
was
and is occasionally affected but again I have not been able to determine =
a
pattern.

I do not know why file attachments in mail from the affected ISP to our
Exchange server are corrupted but not file attachments in mail =
travelling in
the reverse direction.

The workaround is, of course, to reconfigure all clients for plain text
format.  However, this only affects internal mail.  We can not make =
external users change their configuration of the client program.  Since =
a very high percentage of all users of email can be expected to use =
Microsoft products and since apparently only some varieties of UNIX are =
involved I suspect it will be easier to change the behaviour in the UNIX =
end than in the Microsoft end.

I have kept my results including the messages themselves, together with
headers, of course.  These can be examined for further relevant =
information if
required.

Of course the problem could be one of bad configuration of a) our new =
BSD smtp server and the ISPs mail exchangers or b) our Exchange server =
or both.

mvh/regards

James Wilde
Mail and DNS administrator
TBV Head Office
Box 5368
102 49  Stockholm
Sweden

Tel: +46 (8) 782 9283
Fax: +46 (8) 667 7249
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Hey!

I'm trying to set up my macintosh to use a printserver that is on another
network, it look's like this:

my mac ("local net") -> FreeBSD natd gate -> printserver ("real network").

Does NATD support AppleTalk? Is there som speciel configuration I have to
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I'd like to install the Java Development Kit on my FreeBSD 3-stable system.

The directory in /usr/ports/lang/jdk has a README.html but no Makefile. I've
used cvsup to
upgrade the ports distribution, but this hasn't changed things. The
directory in the ports hierarchy is dated July 26, which seems a little old
to me.

I've found the port on www.freebsd.org, but I'd like to stick with the
formal ports system so that I can track it with cvsup if at all possible.

I'm obviously missing something important here: Any hints would be
gratefully received.

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Colin Campbell <sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au> wrote:

> Coming ompletely out of left field here ...
> Why not use NFS?

Because it's inefficient and you really want to use dump rather than
tar/cpio/pax?

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How can I determine the SCSI ID's in use on a SCSI bus in a running 
server, without rebooting?

In my case there are presently several hard drives plus a CD-ROM reader 
on the bus. I need to configure a second system to duplicate the existing 
configuration.

(Other messages have long since displaced the last boot information from 
the logs. System is 2.2.7S/CAM, using an ASUS P2B-S motherboard with 
on-board SCSI.)


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	cat /var/log/messages

	You'll see the full boot sequence, which includes information on
what the SCSI IDs for the devices on your system are.

	marc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graeme Tait [mailto:graeme@echidna.com]
> Sent: Wed, November 17, 1999 6:42 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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> Subject: How to discover SCSI ID's in a running system
> 
> 
> How can I determine the SCSI ID's in use on a SCSI bus in a running 
> server, without rebooting?
> 
> In my case there are presently several hard drives plus a 
> CD-ROM reader 
> on the bus. I need to configure a second system to duplicate 
> the existing 
> configuration.
> 
> (Other messages have long since displaced the last boot 
> information from 
> the logs. System is 2.2.7S/CAM, using an ASUS P2B-S motherboard with 
> on-board SCSI.)
> 
> 
> -- 
> Graeme Tait - Echidna
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Hi,

About every 3 days the system holts, on the screen it only reports:

panic: timeout table full

I have replaced almost every piece of hardware in the computer, and it hasn't helped.  Is there anything else I can do, like increasing the size of the table.

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As I said in my original post, the original boot information has long 
since been displaced from the logs by other messages (in particular, a 
flood of messages that resulted from a filesystem getting full).


Marc Wandschneider wrote:
> 
>         cat /var/log/messages
> 
>         You'll see the full boot sequence, which includes information on
> what the SCSI IDs for the devices on your system are.
> 
>         marc.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Graeme Tait [mailto:graeme@echidna.com]
> > Sent: Wed, November 17, 1999 6:42 AM
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Cc: cc@echidna.com
> > Subject: How to discover SCSI ID's in a running system
> >
> >
> > How can I determine the SCSI ID's in use on a SCSI bus in a running
> > server, without rebooting?
> >
> > In my case there are presently several hard drives plus a
> > CD-ROM reader
> > on the bus. I need to configure a second system to duplicate
> > the existing
> > configuration.
> >
> > (Other messages have long since displaced the last boot
> > information from
> > the logs. System is 2.2.7S/CAM, using an ASUS P2B-S motherboard with
> > on-board SCSI.)


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I've seen many discussions about NFS in the various FreeBSD lists. Does
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On 17-Nov-99 Graeme Tait wrote:
> As I said in my original post, the original boot information has long 
> since been displaced from the logs by other messages (in particular, a 
> flood of messages that resulted from a filesystem getting full).
> 

/var/run/dmesg.boot

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---
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My apologies to all... i just accidentally typed the nickname for
'questions' insetad of 'chat'...   ;-)


On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote:

>
>
>On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:37:32 EST, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>
>> I only hope there is a revolution around the corner that will be
>> powerful enough to stop the Microsoft juggernaut.  And I think it would
>> be more gratifying if that defeat came from a better product, rather
>> than from a government decision.
>
>Please keep this sort of off-topic banter to the freebsd-chat mailing
>list. :-)
>
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>Sheldon.
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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Charles Henri-Pierre wrote:

:Are the HP 6000 familly used by someone ? (someone rich :-)

I've used my HP 6200Cse plugged into and Adaptec 2940UW with 2.2.x and
hpscan.  I've since moved it to the USB port as it dragged the SCSI bus
down, and I wasn't using it for much in FBSD anyway.  I see no reason why
it shouldn't still work.

As for being rich, well, no.  Just gainfully employed.

Jamie Bowden

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FreeBSD can do this - but NOT just all on one box!  Nothing could!  You
need to plan and distribute your load.

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Wise Son wrote:

> Dear Sir/Madam,
> 
> I need to know if BSD is up to this task.
> As I am going to be installing a unix-based server for an ISP, I have
> the following questions:
> 
> 1.  The server(s) will be the main machines for the ISP; providing the
>     basic internet access, pop, ftp, services.
>     Is BSD up to this?
>                    
> 2.  What type of configuration (hardware/software) would you reccomend
>     for about 15000 users?
>     The 1st 6 months will have about 3500 users simultaneously.
>                    
> 3.  Is there anything else I should bear in mind while seting up the
>     system?
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> WiseSon
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"Andy Holyer" <andyh@pavilion.co.uk> writes:

> I'm obviously missing something important here: Any hints would be
> gratefully received.

What you're missing is probably the /usr/ports/java directory.

You probably built the READMEs yourself, which will keep cvsup from
deleting the directory when it goes away in the official tree.  In
this case, though, I seem to have empty lang/jdk* directories myself,
for some reason.

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Hi All

I have just install apache fp using the ports collection.

It seems that fp is not working.

Has anyone got some pointers 

Do I need to run something to configure it
or how do I admin the site ?

Any help would be great

Thanks

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It appears that the encrypted passwords within master.passwd file use the
MD5 algorithm.  Is there a way to change this to DES?  Alternatively, is
there a way to create DES encrypted passwords?

thanks for the help.

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:03:38 +1100, Steve the teco wrote:

> I have just install apache fp using the ports collection.
> 
> It seems that fp is not working.

I would suggest that you read Greg Lehey's guide to using getting the
best results out of the mailing list and then try again.  Greg's guide
is available at:

	http://www.lemis.com/questions.html

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:03:38 +1100, Steve the teco wrote:

> I have just install apache fp using the ports collection.
> 
> It seems that fp is not working.


... and even if this guy had sent us something useful to wortk with, his
mail's bouncing.

Ciao,
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Hi list.
My problem is that every user but root is
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because sendmail says that every user but root 
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How can I let sendmail to know the name of
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>  I guess my question then becomes:  is there a way I can enable the
>  computers to log on to each other as needed without sacrificing
>  security?

you can minimumize the exposure by running the backup program using
a regular account (for example "rbackup") on the tape and client machines.

you need to change the permissions of rdump on the client machines to
be setuid root, executable by group "rbackup", and not executable by
others; the group for each slice that you wish to backup must also be
"rbackup"; "rbackup" should own /etc/dumpdates also (these chmod instruction
can be done by root from cron on at the needed time only to also limit
exposure, also there needs to be a "~rbackup/.rhosts" on the client machine
listing the tape machine's "rbackup" account, this can be placed in by cron)

on the tape machine, the ownership of dump should be changed, the tape
device needs to be owned by "rbackup", the group of the slices need to be
"rbackup", and the appropriate client machine needs an entry in
"~rbackup/.rhost"s file (all of these changes can be updated by cron, but
keep the machines times synced).

the tape machine can run a script file that does the backup:

#!/usr/local/bin/bash

case `date| awk '{print $3}'` in 
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7)  level=0;;
8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14)  level=1;;
15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21)  level=2;;
22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28)  level=3;;
29 | 30 | 31)  level=4;;
esac

# uncomment below to force a full backup
#level=0

 echo "Start of level ${level} backup."
 echo "dumping host: client1"
  /usr/bin/rsh -n client1 /sbin/rdump ${level}usdf 39400 61000 tapemachine:/dev/nrsa0 /dev/rwd0s1a
  sleep 5
		...
  sleep 5
  /usr/bin/rsh -n client1 /sbin/rdump ${level}usdf 39400 61000 tapemachine:/dev/nrsa0 /dev/rwd0s1g

  echo "dumping host: tapemachine"
  /sbin/dump ${level}usdf 39400 61000 /dev/nrsa0 /dev/rda0s1a
		...
  /sbin/dump ${level}usdf 39400 61000 /dev/nrsa0 /dev/rda0s1g
		...
  echo "dumping host: clientN"
  /usr/bin/rsh -n clientN /sbin/rdump ${level}usdf 39400 61000 tapemachine:/dev/nrsa0 /dev/rwd0s1a
  sleep 5
		...
  sleep 5
  /usr/bin/rsh -n clientN /sbin/rdump ${level}usdf 39400 61000 tapemachine:/dev/nrsa0 /dev/rwd0s1e

 mt -f /dev/nrsa0 stat
 mt -f /dev/nrsa0 off
 echo "End of level ${level} backup."


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Amen.

dmaple@methos.net

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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> Okay, okay, i give up.. you win.  Unfortunately, sometimes we computer
> fans forget that the general populous doesn't want what we want.  We
> like toys, and tinkering.  Most people want Plug 'n' Play.  We want
> flexibility, they want simplicity.  So, on that count Microsoft wins.
> They have made a simpler, easier, more limited and trimmed down OS that
> gives most people exactly what they want: a $1000 typewriter, index card
> file, web surfer, calculator, and video game.  So they win.  Unix is
> powerful, but you have to have a degree, serious book education, or
> insatiably curiosity along with free time to use it.
> 
> I do feel, however, that the judge had some salient points about the
> techniques Microsoft used to accomplish its purposes.  I don't think
> they were all ideal examples of the competition intended by capitalism.
> 
> I only hope there is a revolution around the corner that will be
> powerful enough to stop the Microsoft juggernaut.  And I think it would
> be more gratifying if that defeat came from a better product, rather
> than from a government decision.
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you could try to install pre-compiled package.
does it work ?

Regards, (îÁÉĚŐŢŰÉĹ ĐĎÖĹĚÁÎÉŃ)

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On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Chen Xu wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I am using 3.2 with XFree86-3.3.3.1.
> 
> I have a problem compiling the port lyx. It looks for the shared library
>  xforms.0 and couldn't find it. Making /port/x11-toolkit/xforms failed. I
> manually download the excutable library package from xform site. BUT, no
> matter where I put this libxforms.a, the Makefile of lyx can not find it. 
> 
> I checked newsgroup achieve and only saw a few related messages back to
> 1996. No too much help to my problem.
> 
> Any suggestions!
> 
> Chen	       xuchen66@yahoo.com
> ====================================
> 
> 
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> taohuang wrote:
> 
> I have two computer one is run freebsd. And I only have one real ip. I
> want to connect the two computer to the internet. Then must I have
> three net card? And use natd? Can I use ip alias? Or how can I do for
> it!
> 
> thanks
> 

You can use PPP alias and FreeBSD box as a gateway to your ISP.
Read this for more info 
http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd/alias.htm

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AND.. you would be better suited to move your /tmp (and /var) dir to a
larger drive.  E.g. symlink it to /home or wherever you have more space.
-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Annelise Anderson [SMTP:andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu]
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> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, chuck sumner wrote:
> 
> > I installed the entire source tree on my box, recompiled a new 
> > kernel, and everything is working fine.
> > 
> > Is there any reason to keep the /usr/src directory, or can I just rm 
> > -rf /usr/src?
> > 
> > The only reason I ask is that /usr is 95% full.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > Chuck
> > 
> > PLEASE ACT ACCORDINGLY.
> >
> you might want to keep your kernel configuration file.
> 
> or possibly just /usr/src/sys (which includes the config file) so
> you could build another kernel with the same sources if you wanted
> to add something
> 
> sometimes I tar up /usr/src and /usr/obj and save them somewhere
> so I can reinstall, or install on another drive.
> 
> you might find some files you don't need in /usr/ports/distfiles,
> too; or in work directories of ports you've already installed
> 
> Annelise
> 
> 
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> Aaah, so this is locking on the file in /var/mail?  I thought 
> it was for nmh's Mail folders.

Hmmm...I think it is...I'll go double check on that, though.

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"Pete Perreault" <pperreault@above.net> writes:

> It appears that the encrypted passwords within master.passwd file use the
> MD5 algorithm.  Is there a way to change this to DES?  Alternatively, is
> there a way to create DES encrypted passwords?

Install DES.  Sysinstall can do it for you.  

If you have problems after that, check the handbook for more
information.

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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 12:55:02AM +0600, Mojahedul Hoque Abul
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> 
> What is the command to show physical memory usage?

Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread.  It seems "top" is
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On Wednesday, 17 November 1999 at  6:42:04 -0800, Graeme Tait wrote:
> How can I determine the SCSI ID's in use on a SCSI bus in a running
> server, without rebooting?
>
> In my case there are presently several hard drives plus a CD-ROM reader
> on the bus. I need to configure a second system to duplicate the existing
> configuration.
>
> (Other messages have long since displaced the last boot information from
> the logs. System is 2.2.7S/CAM, using an ASUS P2B-S motherboard with
> on-board SCSI.)

Well, you should have a copy of the dmesg in /var/run/dmesg.boot.
Also, 'camcontrol devlist' should give you some information, but
you're running a *very* old version, and it may not work there.

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Hello,


Could someone provide me with some info about this type of 
modem ? (If possible also a web resource and/or some tehnical 
book, as my boss is a little bit untrustfull).

I`m having a debate with my boss: he tella me it is not a good 
modem becouse "it doesn`t look like" the one he saw at our ISP.
I need to demostrate him that it is a good modem for a dial up 
connection over a analog line and also for a dedicated analog line, 
and that it is capable to "understand" GOOD with the Sportser and 
Courier modems our provider has.
It undestands the V.90, x2, V.34, V.42/MNP 2-4, V.42 bis/MNP 5 
standards.
 



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Other than a standard PCMCIA card modem, if i don't have any network at
home or any hub at all, is there any other option for me to connect to the
net with my laptop that will work with FreeBSD?

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1. External modem.
2. Paralle port ( if you have a second Freebsd machine with an internet
connection).
3. Maybe infrared port?(Probably not...hehehe)


At 04:52 PM 11/17/99 +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>Other than a standard PCMCIA card modem, if i don't have any network at
>home or any hub at all, is there any other option for me to connect to the
>net with my laptop that will work with FreeBSD?
>
>-jonathon


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Dear Sir,
I would really appreciate it if anyone could solve my problem.
The case is :=20
I have a file allusers*, this file has all the email address and all new =
email id created goes directly to this file. I use this file as email =
address to email all my users example: allusers@cyber.net.pk=20
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Ion Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Could someone provide me with some info about this type of
> modem ? (If possible also a web resource and/or some tehnical
> book, as my boss is a little bit untrustfull).
> 
> I`m having a debate with my boss: he tella me it is not a good
> modem becouse "it doesn`t look like" the one he saw at our ISP.
> I need to demostrate him that it is a good modem for a dial up
> connection over a analog line and also for a dedicated analog line,
> and that it is capable to "understand" GOOD with the Sportser and
> Courier modems our provider has.
> It undestands the V.90, x2, V.34, V.42/MNP 2-4, V.42 bis/MNP 5
> standards.

You can get the information from 3Com's web site at
http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/products/prod-56k.html. I am with your
boss because I can't see using a voice modem, which needs additional
system capability to be functional, on a computer dial up line. I
equate adding a voice and Pro modem on to a FreeBSD system with more
cost and no additional functionality to the dial out capabilities of
your system.

I have also found that USR modems (Sportster's, Courier's, and etc)
talk to each other just fine. An external voice modem isn't going to
look like a rackmount modem, which your ISP probably has.

Kent

> 
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Ionut
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Mark Ovens wrote:

> I've rm'd the start of this thread, but if you are trying to avoid
> d/l'ing the non-English langauge docs then here is my refuse file
> for doing this (and excluding the non-English ports). It's
> /usr/sup/refuse:
> 
> doc/es* doc/ja* doc/ru* doc/zh*

<pedant> You forgot doc/fr* </pedant>

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Folks,

My mistake.  Sorry to have bothered you.  I hereby concede that I am
unfit to hold an intellectual with a turnip.  Squirrels laugh at me
behind my back.  I hear voices, and do as they say.

Yet again, all that is necessary for me to solve a problem I spent a
week looking at is humiliating myself before hundreds of thousands of
users.  Perhaps I should simply fall back on mailing test@freebsd.org
first.

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Hello to all:

I have a 3COM 3c562d combo card I'd love to use for a FreeBSD FTP-based 
network install on my laptop.   Problem is, there doesn't seem to be any 
boot disk support for it.

Any help would be appreciated.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Nov 17  9:53: 1 1999
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I know lyx can write in RTF.  It also does .dvi and Postscript (tm).  I
have xdvi installed on my laptop.  If i want to output a file to floppy
that i can trot over to a windows network and print, what is the best way
to do it?  .DVI?  Or Postscript?  Can I assume MS Word will be outright
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Nov 17  9:54:21 1999
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I am trying to use an old DEC DE205 card (EtherWorks 3). However, although the
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Nov 17 10: 2:16 1999
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Hi,

I'm getting these messages:

/kernel arplookup 127.0.0.1 failed etc........

I'm inside an intranet that uses a proxy server to
connect to the internet. What should be my hostname
setting be, since i really don't have a "hostname"?
also, what should the settings be in my resolv.conf,
host.conf, etc... files be?  Thanks a lot!!!!

Luke

also, netscape has been taking forever to load lately
- could this be part fo the problem?


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Hi there,
according to FAQ (http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/troubleshoot.html#AEN1135) =
you can set the NMBCLUSTERS option in the KERNEL configuration to
options "NMBCLUSTERS=3D<n>"  where <n> is in the range 512-4096, my two =
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1. We have servers that this value is set as options         =
NMBCLUSTERS=3D8192 is this normal to be that high even in FAQ the MAX is =
4096.
2. The entry does not have a quotation mark around it as the FAQ does is =
it mandatory to have those quotation marks?
when I issue netstat -m the settings are realized sine it reports

3187/3616 mbufs in use:
        2890 mbufs allocated to data
        297 mbufs allocated to packet headers
2546/2930/8192 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
6312 Kbytes allocated to network (86% in use)
0 requests for memory denied
0 requests for memory delayed
0 calls to protocol drain routines

The reason I'm investigating this is because I get a KERNEL panic and =
the server reboots. The message in the /var/log/messages states:
/kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCLUSTERS or increase maxusers!

Any suggestions and ideas are appreciated,thanx.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>according to FAQ (<A=20
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mark around=20
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are realized=20
sine it reports</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>3187/3616 mbufs in=20
use:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2890 mbufs allocated =
to=20
data<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 297 mbufs allocated =
to packet=20
headers<BR>2546/2930/8192 mbuf clusters in use =
(current/peak/max)<BR>6312 Kbytes=20
allocated to network (86% in use)<BR>0 requests for memory denied<BR>0 =
requests=20
for memory delayed<BR>0 calls to protocol drain routines</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm investigating this is =
because I get=20
a KERNEL panic and the server reboots. The message in the =
/var/log/messages=20
states:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust =
NMBCLUSTERS=20
or increase maxusers!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any suggestions and ideas are=20
appreciated,thanx.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-- <BR>Majid Almassari, MSEE, =
MCP.<BR>Systems=20
Administrator<BR>iBroadcast, Inc.<BR>Phone: (206) 223-5540<BR>Email: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:majid@ibroadcast.net">majid@ibroadcast.net</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.ibroadcast.net">http://www.ibroadcast.net</A><BR></FON=
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I use vim (in place of vi) for color coding at my work.  However on my 2.2.7 FreeBSD box, I get the following error when I try to launch vim:

ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXext.so.6.3"

Do I have to install all of X windows for color support?

Rudy


http://www.vim.org/ !


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Well, since no one else has taken a stab at this, and your name is
bunny.. :)


Not sure what you're trying to do, you should post more information about
the type of system your using and exactly what you're trying to do. 
Having said that, you could use a link(ln, man link for more
information)...


1:49pm@parrothd~/ttt>ln -s allusers newfilename

11:50pm@parrothd~/ttt>ll

total 1

-rw-r--r--  1 parrothd  staff  16 Nov 17 23:49 allusers

lrwxr-xr-x  1 parrothd  staff   5 Nov 17 23:50 newfilename -> allusers


This will allow you to keep the allusers file, and create a new file that
point to the allusers file. Ie, any channges you make to newfile name
will actually edit the allusers file and vice versa...






At 10:11 PM 11/17/99 +0500, bunny wrote: 

>>>>

<excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Dear Sir,

I would really appreciate it if anyone could solve my problem.

The case is : 

I have a file allusers*, this file has all the email address and all new
email id created goes directly to this file. I use this file as email
address to email all my users example:
<<mailto:allusers@cyber.net.pk>allusers@cyber.net.pk 

I would like to change the name of the file. How can I do that?

I dont think that using a command of mv, ren can do it, because there are
aliases involved. 

We have to do it through aliases. 

Please help me. I am in deep trouble.

</smaller></fontfamily>  

<fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>Regards

bunny

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where can i find support for the HP COLORADO 5GB/2.060002 ATAPI
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Where can i find patches to FREEBSD 2.2.7 to support hp colorado
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Hi There

Looking for information about FREEBSD and Compaq Smart-2 series raid
contollers any experiences ??


Best regards

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All you need are two files;  'bootinst.exe' & the boot file 'boot.bin'.
Type  bootinst boot.bin  at a DOS prompt and the program will ask you
which disk if you have more than one and save your current MBR for a
future restore.
Both files are in the tools dir. on the CD-ROM or the FTP site.
/stand/sysinstall can do the same via the label editor - just quit
without changing anything and the next menu should be a prompt re the
boot manager.


Regards,
Mark

Tonysux   wrote:

> Ok, i installed FreeBSD today, and forgot to install the boot manager.
> I figure, i can fix it by reinstalling, but i don't want reinstall
> because it would take a long time again. So, how would I install the
> boot manager by using a sysinstall or a fixit disk without
> reinstalling?  My book doesn't help and the two IRC EFnet channels
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Does anyone have any thoughts on the osbsbeta boot manager?  I haven't
tried it, but if it's better, i may give it a shot.


On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Mark Pearson wrote:

>All you need are two files;  'bootinst.exe' & the boot file 'boot.bin'.
>Type  bootinst boot.bin  at a DOS prompt and the program will ask you
>which disk if you have more than one and save your current MBR for a
>future restore.
>Both files are in the tools dir. on the CD-ROM or the FTP site.
>/stand/sysinstall can do the same via the label editor - just quit
>without changing anything and the next menu should be a prompt re the
>boot manager.
>
>
>Regards,
>Mark
>
>Tonysux   wrote:
>
>> Ok, i installed FreeBSD today, and forgot to install the boot manager.
>> I figure, i can fix it by reinstalling, but i don't want reinstall
>> because it would take a long time again. So, how would I install the
>> boot manager by using a sysinstall or a fixit disk without
>> reinstalling?  My book doesn't help and the two IRC EFnet channels
>> arn't helping either. ThanksTony
>
>
>
>
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This interests me quite a lot, because I have external 56K Sportster
Robotics modems at home and at the office (on a regular phone
line); I can dial out just fine and make connections, but I can't
get the modem at the office to answer and establish a connection
at better than 9600.  This is v.90; maybe I should turn that off?

	Annelise

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:

> 
> 
> Ion Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Could someone provide me with some info about this type of
> > modem ? (If possible also a web resource and/or some tehnical
> > book, as my boss is a little bit untrustfull).
> > 
> > I`m having a debate with my boss: he tella me it is not a good
> > modem becouse "it doesn`t look like" the one he saw at our ISP.
> > I need to demostrate him that it is a good modem for a dial up
> > connection over a analog line and also for a dedicated analog line,
> > and that it is capable to "understand" GOOD with the Sportser and
> > Courier modems our provider has.
> > It undestands the V.90, x2, V.34, V.42/MNP 2-4, V.42 bis/MNP 5
> > standards.
> 
> You can get the information from 3Com's web site at
> http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/products/prod-56k.html. I am with your
> boss because I can't see using a voice modem, which needs additional
> system capability to be functional, on a computer dial up line. I
> equate adding a voice and Pro modem on to a FreeBSD system with more
> cost and no additional functionality to the dial out capabilities of
> your system.
> 
> I have also found that USR modems (Sportster's, Courier's, and etc)
> talk to each other just fine. An external voice modem isn't going to
> look like a rackmount modem, which your ISP probably has.
> 
> Kent
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Many thanks,
> > 
> > Ionut
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I need to know where to get HOW TO files on how to set up two ethernet cards on an NFS server.  

For now what I have done is the following:

1.	Change rc.conf file to reflect the new device:

ifconfig_de0="inet XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX netmask 255.255.255.255.0 media 10BaseT/UTP"
ifconfig_de1="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.255.0 media 10BaseT/UTP"

cron_enabled="YES"
lpd_enable="YES"
lpd_flags=""
sendmail_enable="YES"
sendmail_flags="-bd -q30m"

2.	Updated the exports file to allow mounting of de1.

3.	During boot up the system recognizes de1 but it seems to be held up at:

Starting Standard daemons: inetd cron printer sendmail

Clients mounting to the system experience: nfs: can't get net id for host.


I know I am not doing something, I just don't know what that something is.

Robert Sadler (Test Engineer)
MCMS
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The netmask is too long and the network interfaces should be set to auto or
specified. Also use dmesg to see if each interface was found. If each was
not found, it may mean a hardware resource problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
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Subject: Setting up 2 Ethernet Cards on an NFS Server


I need to know where to get HOW TO files on how to set up two ethernet cards
on an NFS server.

For now what I have done is the following:

1.	Change rc.conf file to reflect the new device:

ifconfig_de0="inet XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX netmask 255.255.255.255.0 media
10BaseT/UTP"
ifconfig_de1="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.255.0 media
10BaseT/UTP"

cron_enabled="YES"
lpd_enable="YES"
lpd_flags=""
sendmail_enable="YES"
sendmail_flags="-bd -q30m"

2.	Updated the exports file to allow mounting of de1.

3.	During boot up the system recognizes de1 but it seems to be held up at:

Starting Standard daemons: inetd cron printer sendmail

Clients mounting to the system experience: nfs: can't get net id for host.


I know I am not doing something, I just don't know what that something is.

Robert Sadler (Test Engineer)
MCMS
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bsadler@mcms.com



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Hi FreeBSD folks;

I migrated to 3-STABLE and after reboot POP3 mail passwords for windoz
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some how POP3 server is not figuring the passwdord right

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Has anyone tried or had any idea how to try to connect the new 250 meg ZIP
Plus parallel port version to FreeBSD?

I have a laptop (thus the parallel) and i wanted more space (thus the 250
megs).  It worked with Linux rather easily, but she's starting to get
lonely since I switched to FreeBSD.  Besides, I have all but abandoned
Windows.  At this point I am using it as my backup program for FreeBSD...
copy files to Win partition, save them out to ZIP disks...   ;-)


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How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after it?(e.g. kde
Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to do it and 
had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a question
of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on it
I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
suggestions?

Best Regards.
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I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into the
/usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup ports-all
should be doing this automatically for every category.


On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

>How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after it?(e.g. kde
>Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to do it and 
>had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a question
>of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on it
>I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
>suggestions?
>
>Best Regards.
>Ariel Burbaickij
>
>
>
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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into the
> /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup ports-all
> should be doing this automatically for every category.
 What does DL stand for?
 Regards 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> 
> >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after it?(e.g. kde
> >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to do it and 
> >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a question
> >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on it
> >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
> >suggestions?
> >
> >Best Regards.
> >Ariel Burbaickij
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Of course it will and IS running on my K6-2 266 (overclocked
to 300 on FIC VA-503+ motherboard with 64RAM of PC-100
and AGP RIVA128). The thing is really fast. I'd say almost as
Celeron 300. And it is very stable too. The machine has
no Intel parts whatsoever:) Good luck.

Artem Koutchine (????? ?????)
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(?? ?????????? ?????  ??? ??????????!!!)
-----Original Message-----
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Subject: New Processor


>Dear Freebsd Technician,
>
>Will freebsd run on a AMD K6-2 processor?  The managemant for my company
>needs to know which route to take for buying a new processor.
>I appreacheate you time.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>David Whittington FreeBSD user
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>
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Annelise Anderson wrote:
> 
> This interests me quite a lot, because I have external 56K Sportster
> Robotics modems at home and at the office (on a regular phone
> line); I can dial out just fine and make connections, but I can't
> get the modem at the office to answer and establish a connection
> at better than 9600.  This is v.90; maybe I should turn that off?

The v.90 should be a choice. For example, I occasionally get 28.8kb
and I know I have a bad line but the handshaking also has a different
tone and I was told that was leaving v.90.

Your two user modems should not be able to connect are more than 33.6
because each considers the other an upload and settle for 33.6 kb max.
The modems that support 53kb are different from the ones a user can
purchase.

I don't have any idea why they wouldn't connect at 33.6kb other than a
mismatch or line quality between them. That is terrible and I would
expect a configuration problem. They are supposed to argue until they
come up with something they both support. In your case, it is 9.6 kb

You can set them up to tell what the connection is and I would log
that and see if it provides any clues.

Kent

> 
>         Annelise
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Ion Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Could someone provide me with some info about this type of
> > > modem ? (If possible also a web resource and/or some tehnical
> > > book, as my boss is a little bit untrustfull).
> > >
> > > I`m having a debate with my boss: he tella me it is not a good
> > > modem becouse "it doesn`t look like" the one he saw at our ISP.
> > > I need to demostrate him that it is a good modem for a dial up
> > > connection over a analog line and also for a dedicated analog line,
> > > and that it is capable to "understand" GOOD with the Sportser and
> > > Courier modems our provider has.
> > > It undestands the V.90, x2, V.34, V.42/MNP 2-4, V.42 bis/MNP 5
> > > standards.
> >
> > You can get the information from 3Com's web site at
> > http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/products/prod-56k.html. I am with your
> > boss because I can't see using a voice modem, which needs additional
> > system capability to be functional, on a computer dial up line. I
> > equate adding a voice and Pro modem on to a FreeBSD system with more
> > cost and no additional functionality to the dial out capabilities of
> > your system.
> >
> > I have also found that USR modems (Sportster's, Courier's, and etc)
> > talk to each other just fine. An external voice modem isn't going to
> > look like a rackmount modem, which your ISP probably has.
> >
> > Kent
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > >
> > > Ionut
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Ion Mihai Tetcu
> > > NetAdmin & Web Designer
> > > ARDOR - www.ardor.ro
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> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > >
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> >
> > Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR
> > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html
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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 09:28:11PM +0100, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> > I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into the
> > /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup ports-all
> > should be doing this automatically for every category.
>  What does DL stand for?

Down Load, is that so hard?

>  Regards 
> > 
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > 
> > >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after it?(e.g. kde
> > >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to do it and 
> > >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a question
> > >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on it
> > >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
> > >suggestions?
> > >
> > >Best Regards.
> > >Ariel Burbaickij
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Gunnar Flygt wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 09:28:11PM +0100, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> > 
> > > I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into the
> > > /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup ports-all
> > > should be doing this automatically for every category.
> >  What does DL stand for?
> 
> Down Load, is that so hard? 
   I hold it for hard enough to be asked about.
   No more no less.
   Yours sincerly
   Ariel Burbaickij 
> >  Regards 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > > 
> > > >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after it?(e.g. kde
> > > >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to do it and 
> > > >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a question
> > > >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on it
> > > >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
> > > >suggestions?
> > > >
> > > >Best Regards.
> > > >Ariel Burbaickij
> > > >
> > > >
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Description of situation:I would like to dowload some files on my
notebook at school(they have powerful network there and it is free of
charge. we have to pay pro time-unit here in de as private telecom
users) I run gnu/debian on it.Afterwards,I would like to transport
downloaded files on my home machine.Does some quick and painless
solution exist(i am well aware of possibility of installing of ppd
on home machine and ppp client on notebook and use this connection then
but it is somehow arduos as I may guess just for this purpose)
Something like options presented in Subject row?

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Ariel Burbaickij






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Okay heres one, Say ive installed a port on 3.3-RELEASE when it first
came out, and there have been numerous changes to the ports tree,
including upgrades, so how does one, monitor, follow whats installed on
his system from the ports tree, and compare it to say the latest branch
of the tree and then if there are updates in the new tree of what is
installed on the system, automagically update the system, by building
from the tree changes ??? is there a way to track/automate this ???

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Got troubles installing port of wterm.Output is presented in attached file

Best Regards,
Ariel Burbaickij


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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 11:40:03AM +0100, James A Wilde wrote:
> Digest:  This message reports on the corruption of file attachments
> in messages passing certain BSD UNIX mail exchangers.  The
> corruption affects messages sent using Microsoft Outlook and
> Outlook Express mail clients.  It may affect other clients also
> The corrupted file attachments are about 30% larger than the
> non-corrupted form.  A small part of the increase appears to be the
> insertion of CRLF at 76 character intervals.  I have reported this
> as a bug to FreeBSD.org but one of low priority.
>

This is not corruption. M$ proprietry files are binary so they are
being uuencoded (which maps 3 bytes into 4 so that all bytes can
be represented in printable chars). This explains the 30% increase
in size and the CR/LF's as uuencode also splits the resultant file
into fixed length lines. All you need is to uudecode(1) them.
Netscape can do this and I'm sure that even M$ mail readers can as
well; we have a mix of Unix and M$ (Outlook) systems at work and
passing binary attachments poses no problems.

``man 5 uuencode'' for details of the algorithm used.

As an aside, a customer mailed me a text file the other day, that
was ~400K, as an attachment using M$ Exchange. By the time I got it
it was >800K (this file would Zip down to <100K). Seems that Exchange
embeds the fonts for RTF into the attachment that gets renamed
winmail.dat.


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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 03:48:17AM -0800, Marc Wandschneider wrote:
> 
> 	cat /var/log/messages
> 

Or ``dmesg''

> 	You'll see the full boot sequence, which includes information on
> what the SCSI IDs for the devices on your system are.
> 
> 	marc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Graeme Tait [mailto:graeme@echidna.com]
> > Sent: Wed, November 17, 1999 6:42 AM
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Cc: cc@echidna.com
> > Subject: How to discover SCSI ID's in a running system
> > 
> > 
> > How can I determine the SCSI ID's in use on a SCSI bus in a running 
> > server, without rebooting?
> > 
> > In my case there are presently several hard drives plus a 
> > CD-ROM reader 
> > on the bus. I need to configure a second system to duplicate 
> > the existing 
> > configuration.
> > 
> > (Other messages have long since displaced the last boot 
> > information from 
> > the logs. System is 2.2.7S/CAM, using an ASUS P2B-S motherboard with 
> > on-board SCSI.)
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Graeme Tait - Echidna
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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 01:37:22PM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> > I've rm'd the start of this thread, but if you are trying to avoid
> > d/l'ing the non-English langauge docs then here is my refuse file
> > for doing this (and excluding the non-English ports). It's
> > /usr/sup/refuse:
> > 
> > doc/es* doc/ja* doc/ru* doc/zh*
> 
> <pedant> You forgot doc/fr* </pedant>
> 

<sarcasm> They don't want our beef; I don't want their docs </sarcasm>

Seriously, the fr docs must be new 'coz I've not got them (last
cvsup'd 30/10).

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I believe at www.freebsd.ork/~nik there is a diff file that can be used as
a patch for pkg_version.  It is supposed to check all ports installed and
compare them to the last cvsup list of ports.  If there is an update you
may want, it lets you know.  I would try this if it weren't for two
things:

1.  I'm  not quite sure how to apply patches.. i think it's a basic 'patch
INFILE OUTFILE' command, but that's only part of the problem...

2.  I can't get pkg_version to install.  I've tried several times, but the
file servers all tell me 'permission denied' to DL the distfiles i need.

So i gave up.  It sure sounds nice, though, doesn't it?

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:

>Okay heres one, Say ive installed a port on 3.3-RELEASE when it first
>came out, and there have been numerous changes to the ports tree,
>including upgrades, so how does one, monitor, follow whats installed on
>his system from the ports tree, and compare it to say the latest branch
>of the tree and then if there are updates in the new tree of what is
>installed on the system, automagically update the system, by building
>from the tree changes ??? is there a way to track/automate this ???
>
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Just to make sure, you are aware of CVSup, right?  


On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:

>Okay heres one, Say ive installed a port on 3.3-RELEASE when it first
>came out, and there have been numerous changes to the ports tree,
>including upgrades, so how does one, monitor, follow whats installed on
>his system from the ports tree, and compare it to say the latest branch
>of the tree and then if there are updates in the new tree of what is
>installed on the system, automagically update the system, by building
>from the tree changes ??? is there a way to track/automate this ???
>
>-- 
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so your saying this pkg_version isnt available to anyone ???? you dont
have it ?? is there any url for me to try and find it ???

Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> I believe at www.freebsd.ork/~nik there is a diff file that can be used as
> a patch for pkg_version.  It is supposed to check all ports installed and
> compare them to the last cvsup list of ports.  If there is an update you
> may want, it lets you know.  I would try this if it weren't for two
> things:
> 
> 1.  I'm  not quite sure how to apply patches.. i think it's a basic 'patch
> INFILE OUTFILE' command, but that's only part of the problem...
> 
> 2.  I can't get pkg_version to install.  I've tried several times, but the
> file servers all tell me 'permission denied' to DL the distfiles i need.
> 
> So i gave up.  It sure sounds nice, though, doesn't it?
> 

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It's there in the ports tree under sysutils.  I just can't get it to
download....


On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:

>so your saying this pkg_version isnt available to anyone ???? you dont
>have it ?? is there any url for me to try and find it ???
>
>Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>> 
>> I believe at www.freebsd.ork/~nik there is a diff file that can be used as
>> a patch for pkg_version.  It is supposed to check all ports installed and
>> compare them to the last cvsup list of ports.  If there is an update you
>> may want, it lets you know.  I would try this if it weren't for two
>> things:
>> 
>> 1.  I'm  not quite sure how to apply patches.. i think it's a basic 'patch
>> INFILE OUTFILE' command, but that's only part of the problem...
>> 
>> 2.  I can't get pkg_version to install.  I've tried several times, but the
>> file servers all tell me 'permission denied' to DL the distfiles i need.
>> 
>> So i gave up.  It sure sounds nice, though, doesn't it?
>> 
>
>-- 
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>

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yes im aware of cvsup but that doesnt upgrade/update a port ive
installed on my system for me! im looking to automate the process of
building/installing ports installed on my system against newer versions
in the ports tree

say i installed enlightenment dr 15-5, well that was then, no the dr 16
is the newer port in the tree, im looking for somethjing i can run that
will grab a list of what ports i have installed compare it to, whats
changed/updated in the ports tree and build/install/update my installed
ports for me! so i dont have to manually track everything i have
installed.

Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> Just to make sure, you are aware of CVSup, right?
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:
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does anybody know anything about this thing?

it holds 6 Pentium Pro CPUs, 4GB RAM, built in AIC-7880, blah blah blah

anyone ever use one of these?  does FreeBSD SMP handle >4 CPUs?

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DO IT NOW


 cd pkg_version/
bastille# make
>> pkg_version-0.1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system.
>> Attempting to fetch from http://www.ca.sandia.gov/~bmah/Software/pkg_version/.
Receiving pkg_version-0.1.tar.gz (4570 bytes): 100%
4570 bytes transferred in 0.2 seconds  (24.58 Kbytes/s)
===>  Extracting for pkg_version-0.1
>> Checksum OK for pkg_version-0.1.tar.gz.
===>  Patching for pkg_version-0.1
===>  Configuring for pkg_version-0.1
bastille# make
bastille# make install
===>  Installing for pkg_version-0.1
/usr/bin/sed -e 's%^\#! /usr/local/bin/perl%\#! /usr/bin/perl%'  <
/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version  >
/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version.local
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555
/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version.local 
/usr/local/bin/pkg_version
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444
/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version.1
/usr/local/man/man1
===>   Generating temporary packing list
===>   Compressing manual pages for pkg_version-0.1
===>   Registering installation for pkg_version-0.1
bastille# pkg_version
pkg_version: Command not found.
bastille# rehash
bastille# pkg_version
C                    ?
IglooFTP             =
Mesa                 =
ORBit                <
amanda               ?
apache+php+mod_ssl   ?
autoconf             =
automake             =
bash                 ?
bzip2                =
cvsup-bin            =
emacs                ?
enlightenment        <
esound               <
eterm                =
expect               <
fnlib                =
freetype             =
gaim                 ?
gcc                  ?
gd                   <
gdbm                 =
gensig               =
gettext              =
giflib               ?
glib                 ?
gmake                =
gnome-vnc            =
gnomeaudio           =
gnomecore            <
gnomeicu             =
gnomelibs            <
gnomeprint           <
gnuplot              =
gtk                  ?
guile                =
icqlib               =
imlib                <
jed                  =
jpeg                 =
kdebase              <
kdegames             <
kdegraphics          <
kdelibs              <
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kdenetwork           <
kdesupport           <
kdeutils             <
kicq                 =
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knewmail             =
korganizer           =
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Well, basically, cvsup with ports-all in the supfile will get the ports
for the newest updates.  Then, if you cd to /usr/ports you can run make
all (i think) to make all the newest versions.  Then you can make install
to install them.  The reason this isn't more automated is because newer
isn't always better.  ;-)  You may want to try the new one first, or read
the docs, before an automatic update.  Also, you have to run make
deinstall first before make install, or you may have more than one verion
of libs, docs, even binaries....

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:

>yes im aware of cvsup but that doesnt upgrade/update a port ive
>installed on my system for me! im looking to automate the process of
>building/installing ports installed on my system against newer versions
>in the ports tree
>
>say i installed enlightenment dr 15-5, well that was then, no the dr 16
>is the newer port in the tree, im looking for somethjing i can run that
>will grab a list of what ports i have installed compare it to, whats
>changed/updated in the ports tree and build/install/update my installed
>ports for me! so i dont have to manually track everything i have
>installed.
>
>Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>> 
>> Just to make sure, you are aware of CVSup, right?
>> 
>> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:
>>
>

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BEAUTIFUl !!
Now i feel like i am earning my keep on this mailing list...  ;-)
As soon as i get home, i'll get it myself.  Looks like just what i wanted.
BTW, since i have a laptop, not a constant net connection, here's what i'm
doing.
In root, i have a maint directory.  I have 3 scripts here.. one for cvsup,
one for make kernel, one for make world.  I can run these whenever.  I
also run pkg_info > plist regularly, and i go over this list to prune my
ports collection of things i don't want and have forgotten about... i did
this today and scrapped enlightenment and gnome.  Saved a lot of space...
That new utility will be a great bonus.

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:

>DO IT NOW
>
>
> cd pkg_version/
>bastille# make
>>> pkg_version-0.1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system.
>>> Attempting to fetch from http://www.ca.sandia.gov/~bmah/Software/pkg_version/.
>Receiving pkg_version-0.1.tar.gz (4570 bytes): 100%
>4570 bytes transferred in 0.2 seconds  (24.58 Kbytes/s)
>===>  Extracting for pkg_version-0.1
>>> Checksum OK for pkg_version-0.1.tar.gz.
>===>  Patching for pkg_version-0.1
>===>  Configuring for pkg_version-0.1
>bastille# make
>bastille# make install
>===>  Installing for pkg_version-0.1
>/usr/bin/sed -e 's%^\#! /usr/local/bin/perl%\#! /usr/bin/perl%'  <
>/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version  >
>/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version.local
>install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555
>/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version.local 
>/usr/local/bin/pkg_version
>install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444
>/usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version.1
>/usr/local/man/man1
>===>   Generating temporary packing list
>===>   Compressing manual pages for pkg_version-0.1
>===>   Registering installation for pkg_version-0.1
>bastille# pkg_version
>pkg_version: Command not found.
>bastille# rehash
>bastille# pkg_version
>C                    ?
>IglooFTP             =
>Mesa                 =
>ORBit                <
>amanda               ?
>apache+php+mod_ssl   ?
>autoconf             =
>automake             =
>bash                 ?
>bzip2                =
>cvsup-bin            =
>emacs                ?
>enlightenment        <
>esound               <
>eterm                =
>expect               <
>fnlib                =
>freetype             =
>gaim                 ?
>gcc                  ?
>gd                   <
>gdbm                 =
>gensig               =
>gettext              =
>giflib               ?
>glib                 ?
>gmake                =
>gnome-vnc            =
>gnomeaudio           =
>gnomecore            <
>gnomeicu             =
>gnomelibs            <
>gnomeprint           <
>gnuplot              =
>gtk                  ?
>guile                =
>icqlib               =
>imlib                <
>jed                  =
>jpeg                 =
>kdebase              <
>kdegames             <
>kdegraphics          <
>kdelibs              <
>kdemultimedia        <
>kdenetwork           <
>kdesupport           <
>kdeutils             <
>kicq                 =
>kmp3                 =
>knewmail             =
>korganizer           =
>kpilot               =
>ksamba               =
>ktamaga              =
>ktelnet              =
>ktranslator          =
>kvidtune             =
>kvirc                =
>kwatch               =
>kworldwatch          =
>le                   =
>less                 =
>libaudiofile         <
>libghttp             =
>libgtop              >
>libmikmod            =
>libslang             =
>libtool              =
>libxml               <
>m4                   =
>majorcool            =
>majordomo            =
>mc                   <
>mm                   =
>mysql-client         <
>mysql-server         ?
>ncftp                ?
>netscape-communicator ?
>nmap                 =
>nstreams             =
>openssl              =
>p5-DBI               <
>p5-Data-ShowTable    =
>p5-Mysql-modules     =
>p5-Storable          <
>p5-pRPC-modules      =
>pgcc                 =
>pgp                  ?
>pgpsendmail          =
>pidentd              =
>pkg_version          =
>png                  =
>pth                  ?
>qt                   ?
>queso                =
>roottail             =
>rsaref               =
>ssh                  ?
>sshbuddy             =
>tcl                  ?
>tcsh                 =
>tiff                 =
>tk                   ?
>unix2dos             =
>unzip                =
>uulib                =
>xcoral               =
>xmms                 <
>xpm                  =
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>      ...and that is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.
>

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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> > I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into the
> > /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup ports-all
> > should be doing this automatically for every category.
>  What does DL stand for?
>  Regards 

DL stands for "download". You don't want to do it this way because stale
directories and patches will not be deleted, causing any number of
problems. If you do download the tarball, you want to wipe /usr/ports
first, maybe keeping only the distfiles you expect to need, and only then
unpack the new one.

> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > 
> > >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after it?(e.g. kde
> > >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to do it and 
> > >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a question
> > >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on it
> > >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
> > >suggestions?

I don't quite get the question... cvsup'ing ports-all should leave you
with all that's new in the right place and all that's old gone (and if
it's not there, there's no port for it...). No problem and don't worry, be
happy.

-ac


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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Alex Charalabidis wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> > 
> > > I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into the
> > > /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup ports-all
> > > should be doing this automatically for every category.
> >  What does DL stand for?
> >  Regards 
> 
> DL stands for "download". You don't want to do it this way because stale
> directories and patches will not be deleted, causing any number of
> problems. If you do download the tarball, you want to wipe /usr/ports
> first, maybe keeping only the distfiles you expect to need, and only then
> unpack the new one.
> 
> > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > > 
> > > >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after it?(e.g. kde
> > > >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to do it and 
> > > >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a question
> > > >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on it
> > > >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
> > > >suggestions?
> 
> I don't quite get the question... cvsup'ing ports-all should leave you
> with all that's new in the right place and all that's old gone (and if
> it's not there, there's no port for it...). No problem and don't worry, be
> happy.
> 
> -ac
 I know what they should it was not so hard to guess :)) I even
 did not get what should be here but rather the things I got
 what I can send is the listing of my /usr/ports AFTER updating
 my ports-supfile so that you can persude yourself.
 As to actual timepoint I am missing in UPDATED tree kde Tcl
 and some other new-comers.
 As to the being happy I surely am but somehow miss the ports,though
 just post the files and listings you would like to get from me.
 PS
 MY original system was 3.2-rel so it is clear to me what came
 added later and what not
 Best Regards
 Ariel Burbaickij
 
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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Mark Ovens wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 01:37:22PM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> > Mark Ovens wrote:
> > 
> > > I've rm'd the start of this thread, but if you are trying to avoid
> > > d/l'ing the non-English langauge docs then here is my refuse file
> > > for doing this (and excluding the non-English ports). It's
> > > /usr/sup/refuse:
> > > 
> > > doc/es* doc/ja* doc/ru* doc/zh*
> > 
> > <pedant> You forgot doc/fr* </pedant>
    I have seen some docs in German also
    What does zh stands for?
 
> 
> <sarcasm> They don't want our beef; I don't want their docs </sarcasm>
> 
> Seriously, the fr docs must be new 'coz I've not got them (last
> cvsup'd 30/10).
> 
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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 05:02:24PM -0500, TrouBle wrote:
> yes im aware of cvsup but that doesnt upgrade/update a port ive
> installed on my system for me! im looking to automate the process of
> building/installing ports installed on my system against newer versions
> in the ports tree

You can use cvsup to update the whole ports tree, or parts of it.
 
> say i installed enlightenment dr 15-5, well that was then, no the dr 16
> is the newer port in the tree, im looking for somethjing i can run that
> will grab a list of what ports i have installed compare it to, whats
> changed/updated in the ports tree and build/install/update my installed
> ports for me! so i dont have to manually track everything i have
> installed.

I'm not sure that you can just patch enlightenment-0.15 up to 0.16 if thats what you mean.
Using cvsup really is great because it updates dependencies too.

Matt


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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 09:48:56PM +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> deinstall first before make install, or you may have more than one verion
> of libs, docs, even binaries....
 
I have about 3 different versions of tk on my system. I presume that this is OK?

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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 05:05:37PM -0500, TrouBle wrote:
> DO IT NOW
> 
> 
 [snip]

> bastille# pkg_version
> C                    ?
> IglooFTP             =
> Mesa                 =
> ORBit                <
> amanda               ?
> apache+php+mod_ssl   ?
> autoconf             =
> automake             =
> bash                 ?
> bzip2                =
> cvsup-bin            =

[snip]

Even better, try the ``-v'' option:

marder-1# pkg_version -v
31upgrade-1999.03.08        <   needs updating (index has 1999.05.20)
32upgrade-1999.05.20        =   up-to-date
C-Forge-1.3e-2              ?   unknown in index
XFree86-3.3.3.1,3.3.5       ?   multiple versions (index has 3.3.5)
aalib-1.2                   =   up-to-date
apache-1.3.4                <   needs updating (index has 1.3.9)
bochs-990925a               <   needs updating (index has 991004a)
calctool-2.4.13             =   up-to-date
cvsup-16.0                  =   up-to-date
ddd-3.1.3                   <   needs updating (index has 3.1.6)
docbook-1.0,3.0,3.1         ?   multiple versions (index has 1.0,241,3.0,3.1
dsssl-docbook-modular-1.44  =   up-to-date
egcs-devel-19990524         ?   unknown in index
emacs-20.3                  ?   multiple versions (index has 19.34b,20.4)
fetchmail-4.7.0             <   needs updating (index has 5.1.1)
freetype-1.2                =   up-to-date

[snip]

and if you add Nik's patch (http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/pkg_version.diff
& http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/pkg_version.1.diff) you have ``-c''
as well, which generates the shell commands to update your system:

marder-1# !!c
pkg_version -vc
#
#  31upgrade
#  needs updating (index has 1999.05.20)
#
cd /usr/ports/misc/31upgrade
make
pkg_delete -f 31upgrade-1999.03.08
make install

#
#  C-Forge-1.3e
#  unknown in index
#
pkg_delete -f C-Forge-1.3e-2

#
#  XFree86
#  multiple versions (index has 3.3.5)
#
cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86
make
pkg_delete -f XFree86-3.3.3.1,3.3.5
make install

[snip]

Note that in the output above the entry for C-Forge only has the
pkg_delete command. There was a bug in Nik's patch that output a
``make'' for non-existent ports, but it was for the previous port
listed:


# 
#  31upgrade
#  needs updating (index has 1999.05.20)
#  
cd /usr/ports/misc/31upgrade
make
pkg_delete -f 31upgrade-1999.03.08 
make install

# 
#  C-Forge-1.3e
#  unknown in index
#  
cd /usr/ports/misc/32upgrade  <<<<===================
make
pkg_delete -f C-Forge-1.3e-2
make install

Apply the patch below (after Nik's patch) to just get the (correct)
pkg_delete command:

*** /usr/local/bin/pkg_version.safe     Thu Nov  4 21:16:30 1999
--- /usr/local/bin/pkg_version  Thu Nov  4 21:15:32 1999
***************
*** 252,264 ****
                $Comment = "Comparison failed";
            }
        }
      }
      else {
        $versionCode = "?";
        $Comment = "unknown in index";
-     }

!     write;
  }

  exit 0;
--- 252,267 ----
                $Comment = "Comparison failed";
            }
        }
+
+     write;
      }
      else {
        $versionCode = "?";
        $Comment = "unknown in index";

!       $~ = "NOEXIST_COMMANDS" if $ShowCommandsFlag;
!       write;
!     }
  }

  exit 0;
***************
*** 299,304 ****
--- 302,323 ----
  pkg_delete -f @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
                $packageNameVer
  make install
+
+ .
+   ;
+
+ # Report that includes commands to update program (-c flag)
+ format NOEXIST_COMMANDS =
+ @<
+ $CommentChar
+ @< @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
+ $CommentChar, $packageName
+ @< @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
+ $CommentChar, $Comment
+ @<
+ $CommentChar
+ pkg_delete -f @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
+               $packageNameVer

  .
    ;


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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 11:32:50PM +0100, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 01:37:22PM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> > > Mark Ovens wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I've rm'd the start of this thread, but if you are trying to avoid
> > > > d/l'ing the non-English langauge docs then here is my refuse file
> > > > for doing this (and excluding the non-English ports). It's
> > > > /usr/sup/refuse:
> > > > 
> > > > doc/es* doc/ja* doc/ru* doc/zh*
> > > 
> > > <pedant> You forgot doc/fr* </pedant>
>     I have seen some docs in German also
>     What does zh stands for?
>  

Chinese.

> > 
> > <sarcasm> They don't want our beef; I don't want their docs </sarcasm>
> > 
> > Seriously, the fr docs must be new 'coz I've not got them (last
> > cvsup'd 30/10).
> > 
> > > -- 
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Graeme Tait wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > How can I determine the SCSI ID's in use on a SCSI bus in a running 
 > server, without rebooting?

camcontrol devlist

Regards
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How are you making the determination that you don't have the newer ports.
E.g. KDE, TCL, etc...?  Knowing this may help us determine what the actual
issue is instead of side-steping around it.

-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:28 PM
> To:	Alex Charalabidis
> Cc:	Ariel Burbaickij; FreeBSD Questions
> Subject:	Re: cvsup ports-all question
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into the
> > > > /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup
> ports-all
> > > > should be doing this automatically for every category.
> > >  What does DL stand for?
> > >  Regards 
> > 
> > DL stands for "download". You don't want to do it this way because stale
> > directories and patches will not be deleted, causing any number of
> > problems. If you do download the tarball, you want to wipe /usr/ports
> > first, maybe keeping only the distfiles you expect to need, and only
> then
> > unpack the new one.
> > 
> > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after it?(e.g.
> kde
> > > > >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to do
> it and 
> > > > >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a
> question
> > > > >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on it
> > > > >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
> > > > >suggestions?
> > 
> > I don't quite get the question... cvsup'ing ports-all should leave you
> > with all that's new in the right place and all that's old gone (and if
> > it's not there, there's no port for it...). No problem and don't worry,
> be
> > happy.
> > 
> > -ac
>  I know what they should it was not so hard to guess :)) I even
>  did not get what should be here but rather the things I got
>  what I can send is the listing of my /usr/ports AFTER updating
>  my ports-supfile so that you can persude yourself.
>  As to actual timepoint I am missing in UPDATED tree kde Tcl
>  and some other new-comers.
>  As to the being happy I surely am but somehow miss the ports,though
>  just post the files and listings you would like to get from me.
>  PS
>  MY original system was 3.2-rel so it is clear to me what came
>  added later and what not
>  Best Regards
>  Ariel Burbaickij
>  
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
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This is really slick!  Here, fyi, is a little output from running
pkg_version -v (for verbose output):

gawk-3.0.3           < needs updating (index has 3.0.4)
gd-1.6.3             = up-to-date
gdbm-1.7.3           < needs updating (index has 1.8.0)
gettext-0.10.35      = up-to-date
ghostscript-5.10     ? multiple versions (index has 5.10,5.50)
giflib-3.0,4.1.0     ? multiple versions (index has 4.1.0)
gimp-1.1.2           < needs updating (index has 1.1.10)

The problem with updating without thought is that sometimes 
configuring a new version takes some time and attention. It would
also be useful if pkg_version gave the path to the port, so that
one could turn this output into a script with lines like:

cd /usr/ports/graphics/gimp && make install (or wherever gimp is)

I guess you could make a list to be updated, do make search key=xxx
for the names, and use the results for updating.

Also, some ports are interactive and require the user to enter stuff
while they're being built.

	Annelise


On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:

> DO IT NOW
> 
> 
>  cd pkg_version/
> bastille# make
> >> pkg_version-0.1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system.
> >> Attempting to fetch from http://www.ca.sandia.gov/~bmah/Software/pkg_version/.
> Receiving pkg_version-0.1.tar.gz (4570 bytes): 100%
> 4570 bytes transferred in 0.2 seconds  (24.58 Kbytes/s)
> ===>  Extracting for pkg_version-0.1
> >> Checksum OK for pkg_version-0.1.tar.gz.
> ===>  Patching for pkg_version-0.1
> ===>  Configuring for pkg_version-0.1
> bastille# make
> bastille# make install
> ===>  Installing for pkg_version-0.1
> /usr/bin/sed -e 's%^\#! /usr/local/bin/perl%\#! /usr/bin/perl%'  <
> /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version  >
> /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version.local
> install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555
> /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version.local 
> /usr/local/bin/pkg_version
> install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444
> /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_version/work/pkg_version-0.1/pkg_version.1
> /usr/local/man/man1
> ===>   Generating temporary packing list
> ===>   Compressing manual pages for pkg_version-0.1
> ===>   Registering installation for pkg_version-0.1
> bastille# pkg_version
> pkg_version: Command not found.
> bastille# rehash
> bastille# pkg_version
> C                    ?
> IglooFTP             =
> Mesa                 =
> ORBit                <
> amanda               ?
> apache+php+mod_ssl   ?
> autoconf             =
> automake             =
> bash                 ?
> bzip2                =
> cvsup-bin            =
> emacs                ?
> enlightenment        <
> esound               <
> eterm                =
> expect               <
> fnlib                =
> freetype             =
> gaim                 ?
> gcc                  ?
> gd                   <
> gdbm                 =
> gensig               =
> gettext              =
> giflib               ?
> glib                 ?
> gmake                =
> gnome-vnc            =
> gnomeaudio           =
> gnomecore            <
> gnomeicu             =
> gnomelibs            <
> gnomeprint           <
> gnuplot              =
> gtk                  ?
> guile                =
> icqlib               =
> imlib                <
> jed                  =
> jpeg                 =
> kdebase              <
> kdegames             <
> kdegraphics          <
> kdelibs              <
> kdemultimedia        <
> kdenetwork           <
> kdesupport           <
> kdeutils             <
> kicq                 =
> kmp3                 =
> knewmail             =
> korganizer           =
> kpilot               =
> ksamba               =
> ktamaga              =
> ktelnet              =
> ktranslator          =
> kvidtune             =
> kvirc                =
> kwatch               =
> kworldwatch          =
> le                   =
> less                 =
> libaudiofile         <
> libghttp             =
> libgtop              >
> libmikmod            =
> libslang             =
> libtool              =
> libxml               <
> m4                   =
> majorcool            =
> majordomo            =
> mc                   <
> mm                   =
> mysql-client         <
> mysql-server         ?
> ncftp                ?
> netscape-communicator ?
> nmap                 =
> nstreams             =
> openssl              =
> p5-DBI               <
> p5-Data-ShowTable    =
> p5-Mysql-modules     =
> p5-Storable          <
> p5-pRPC-modules      =
> pgcc                 =
> pgp                  ?
> pgpsendmail          =
> pidentd              =
> pkg_version          =
> png                  =
> pth                  ?
> qt                   ?
> queso                =
> roottail             =
> rsaref               =
> ssh                  ?
> sshbuddy             =
> tcl                  ?
> tcsh                 =
> tiff                 =
> tk                   ?
> unix2dos             =
> unzip                =
> uulib                =
> xcoral               =
> xmms                 <
> xpm                  =
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
>       ...and that is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.
> 
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Daniel,

This list needs more information to be able to help you.

What POP3 server are you using?  (FreeBSD doesn't have "stock" POP server.)
 - Did you look for support specific to that POP server?  It may be
something in an FAQ on their site.
When did this start happening?
Can FreeBSD clients access the POP server? (there are unix based POP
clients, hell you can telnet to the port and see what happens)
Is the POP3 server software running as root?


-Chris
P.S. Please CC: any replies to the mailing list.


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	daniel B [SMTP:danielb@pacex.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 1999 2:36 PM
> To:	freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject:	POP3 user passwords fail URGENT PLEASE!
> 
> Hi FreeBSD folks;
> 
> I migrated to 3-STABLE and after reboot POP3 mail passwords for windoz
> users fail to authentica, but they can still log to the system and browse
> Errror is:  mail server responded POP3 password you entered is incorrect
> 
> some how POP3 server is not figuring the passwdord right
> 
> Really appreciate any and all inputs
> 
> dan


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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Don Read wrote:

> 
> On 17-Nov-99 Graeme Tait wrote:
> > As I said in my original post, the original boot information has long 
> > since been displaced from the logs by other messages (in particular, a 
> > flood of messages that resulted from a filesystem getting full).
> > 
> 
> /var/run/dmesg.boot

stop it. 

All of you guys need to "man camcontrol"

enjoy,
-Alfred



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There are two questions here:  How you're going to connect the two
machines, and then the software you use to do the transfers.

Fastest is an ethernet connection (and maybe easiest, too) with
either crossover cable between the two computers, or a hub for more
than two computers with patch (cat 5) cable.  These cables are sold
at ordinary computer stores.  Then you can use ftp (in binary mode)
or, if both computers have it, rsync; and probably various others.

You can also do serial connections with a null-modem cable and, I
think, parallel port connections.  But ethernet is ultimately the
easiest and (if you're satisfied with 10mbs instead of 100mbs) not
terribly expensive.  It also gives you the experience of configuring
an internal network and figuring out how to let the internal machines
get to the Internet.

	Annelise

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

> Description of situation:I would like to dowload some files on my
> notebook at school(they have powerful network there and it is free of
> charge. we have to pay pro time-unit here in de as private telecom
> users) I run gnu/debian on it.Afterwards,I would like to transport
> downloaded files on my home machine.Does some quick and painless
> solution exist(i am well aware of possibility of installing of ppd
> on home machine and ppp client on notebook and use this connection then
> but it is somehow arduos as I may guess just for this purpose)
> Something like options presented in Subject row?
> 
> Best Regards
> Ariel Burbaickij
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hello freebsd-questions,

  I run a server cluster that does allot of logging across NFS to an
  MFS drive. The problem is once in a while the server with the MFS
  drive reboots for no apparent reason. When it comes back up the
  other servers get a stale nfs handle and do not perform the auto remount routine like
  they would an ordinary drive.
  The nfs mounts are mounted with the bg options. They are supposed to
  fork off a child process and remount automatically as soon as the
  server comes back up.
    Is there some kind of option or switch I am missing in this
    configuration?

    Any information would be much appreciated.

    Thanks




                
                 
                 
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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> Other than a standard PCMCIA card modem, if i don't have any network at
> home or any hub at all, is there any other option for me to connect to the
> net with my laptop that will work with FreeBSD?

get yourself a null modem cable and man slattach.

it's what allowed me to cvsup when pccard was completely broken.

-Alfred



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Troy Settle" <st@i-plus.net>
To: "Vincent Poy" <vince@venus.GAIANET.NET>
Cc: <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 6:07 AM
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>
> Just how dense are you?  Do you not understand what it means when someone
is
> refering to FP2K, and says that "info for it can be found at www.rtr.com"
?
>
> This is the THIRD time I've posted this URL.  Please go there and educate
> yourself before asking any more questions on this list.  Installing
> Apache+php+ssl+frontpage+this+that+the_other, is really freakin simple.
You
> read the directions for each item you wish to toss in, and apply those
> instructions at the appropriate time:
>

I don't think computer software is simple at all, especially when it doesn't
work.  I just had a heck of a time installing apache + mysql + php3 with
FBSD 3.2.  The port wanted gd, but the version of gd fetched didn't match
what the port expected, the checksum validation failed, and the patches
wouldn't apply.  The same was true with PHP3.  Since I'm a newbie to UNIX, I
gave up on the ports collection,  went to the respective web sites, and
followed each packages INSTALL instructions.

I'm an experienced computer professional.  There was recently some banter of
noticing less newbie questions. It's answers like this that keep me from
even asking questions.



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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

> Description of situation:I would like to dowload some files on my
> notebook at school(they have powerful network there and it is free of
> charge. we have to pay pro time-unit here in de as private telecom
> users) I run gnu/debian on it.Afterwards,I would like to transport
> downloaded files on my home machine.Does some quick and painless
> solution exist(i am well aware of possibility of installing of ppd
> on home machine and ppp client on notebook and use this connection then
> but it is somehow arduos as I may guess just for this purpose)
> Something like options presented in Subject row?

get a null modem cable and check out "man slattach"

-Alfred



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On Wednesday, 17 November 1999 at 16:08:08 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Don Read wrote:
>> On 17-Nov-99 Graeme Tait wrote:
>>> As I said in my original post, the original boot information has long
>>> since been displaced from the logs by other messages (in particular, a
>>> flood of messages that resulted from a filesystem getting full).
>>>
>>
>> /var/run/dmesg.boot
>
> stop it.
>
> All of you guys need to "man camcontrol"

In fact, even better would be to read what others have said before you
and only reply if you have additional information.

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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Claudio Eichenberger wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I know an Institution who's completelly fed-up of Microsoft and who'd
> like to evaluate other operating systems running on PCs. I proposed them
> FreeBSD. It pleases them. But, they'd like to know some other companies
> or institutions, having at least a few thousand machines, using FreeBSD
> on their desktops as well as their servers.
> 
> I'd really apreciate your feedback in case you know someone or several.
> 
> Many thanks for your help in advance.

This URL ought to help:

http://www.freebsd.org/gallery/gallery.html

enjoy,
-Alfred



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> 
> I don't think computer software is simple at all, especially when it doesn't
> work.  I just had a heck of a time installing apache + mysql + php3 with
> FBSD 3.2.  The port wanted gd, but the version of gd fetched didn't match
> what the port expected, the checksum validation failed, and the patches
> wouldn't apply.  The same was true with PHP3.  Since I'm a newbie to UNIX, I
> gave up on the ports collection,  went to the respective web sites, and
> followed each packages INSTALL instructions.
> 

Theres a nice little page  on this on the FreeBSD 'zine site.

http://www.freebsdzine.org/199907/features/fp2k.html

It gives good info on getting fp2k going with apache.

I followed the instructions and my setup worked first go!

Cheers

Bry


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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
 
> Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > 
> > This interests me quite a lot, because I have external 56K Sportster
> > Robotics modems at home and at the office (on a regular phone
> > line); I can dial out just fine and make connections, but I can't
> > get the modem at the office to answer and establish a connection
> > at better than 9600.  This is v.90; maybe I should turn that off?
> 
> The v.90 should be a choice. For example, I occasionally get 28.8kb
> and I know I have a bad line but the handshaking also has a different
> tone and I was told that was leaving v.90.
> 
> Your two user modems should not be able to connect are more than 33.6
> because each considers the other an upload and settle for 33.6 kb max.
> The modems that support 53kb are different from the ones a user can
> purchase.
> 
> I don't have any idea why they wouldn't connect at 33.6kb other than a
> mismatch or line quality between them. That is terrible and I would
> expect a configuration problem. They are supposed to argue until they
> come up with something they both support. In your case, it is 9.6 kb
> 
> You can set them up to tell what the connection is and I would log
> that and see if it provides any clues.
> 
> Kent

The problem is that unless I have std.9600 in /etc/ttys, I can't
connect at all; I either get continual garbage on the screen or a
login that responds but doesn't allow the ppp (or pppd) connection 
to come up.  These failure don't log.  For a while I had some sort
of a rotary thing set up in gettytab, but this doesn't work either.
 
         Annelise
> > 
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Ion Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Could someone provide me with some info about this type of
> > > > modem ? (If possible also a web resource and/or some tehnical
> > > > book, as my boss is a little bit untrustfull).
> > > >
> > > > I`m having a debate with my boss: he tella me it is not a good
> > > > modem becouse "it doesn`t look like" the one he saw at our ISP.
> > > > I need to demostrate him that it is a good modem for a dial up
> > > > connection over a analog line and also for a dedicated analog line,
> > > > and that it is capable to "understand" GOOD with the Sportser and
> > > > Courier modems our provider has.
> > > > It undestands the V.90, x2, V.34, V.42/MNP 2-4, V.42 bis/MNP 5
> > > > standards.
> > >
> > > You can get the information from 3Com's web site at
> > > http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/products/prod-56k.html. I am with your
> > > boss because I can't see using a voice modem, which needs additional
> > > system capability to be functional, on a computer dial up line. I
> > > equate adding a voice and Pro modem on to a FreeBSD system with more
> > > cost and no additional functionality to the dial out capabilities of
> > > your system.
> > >
> > > I have also found that USR modems (Sportster's, Courier's, and etc)
> > > talk to each other just fine. An external voice modem isn't going to
> > > look like a rackmount modem, which your ISP probably has.
> > >
> > > Kent
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Ionut
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > Ion Mihai Tetcu
> > > > NetAdmin & Web Designer
> > > > ARDOR - www.ardor.ro
> > > > __________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve - www.freebsd.org
> > > > __________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > --
> > > Kent Stewart
> > > Richland, WA
> > >
> > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com
> > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html
> > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/
> > >
> > > SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME
> > > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
> > >
> > > Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR
> > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html
> > >
> > >
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> 
> -- 
> Kent Stewart
> Richland, WA
> 
> mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com
> http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html
> FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/
> 
> SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME
> http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
> 
> Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR
> http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html
> 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Nov 17 16:27:54 1999
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> Hello.
> I would like to install a quick cam on my freebsd system and attach it to
> the parallel port so that I can always look at people who is sitting on
> the console, because I am the administrator and I am in an other location
> not on the console.
> Does FreeBSD support some quick cam model for parallel port and how then
> to manage the camera, is there soe software for FreeBSD ??
> 

We have a color quickcam running on a FreeBSD box here. Works flawlessly,
capturing a still image every 30 secs.

Have a look at http://www.cs.duke.edu/~reynolds/quickcam/

Nick.

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Rudy <rrucker@macromedia.com> wrote:

> I use vim (in place of vi) for color coding at my work.  However on my
> 2.2.7 FreeBSD box, I get the following error when I try to launch vim:
> 
> ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXext.so.6.3"
> 
> Do I have to install all of X windows for color support?

(What is "X windows"? Please see X(1) for the correct name. Yes,
I'm highly anal about this.)

No, but that version of vim is apparently build with X11 support.
You might want to use the vim-lite port.

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Subject: Re: ALT+ASCII on numeric keypad?
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Juan Kuuse <kuuse@quik.guate.com> wrote:

> How do I configure (sysconsole and X) my standard
> US keyboard so I can type any ASCII character
> having the ALT key pressed and using the numeric
> keypad?

For syscons, this is available by default.

> The us.iso.kbd keymap does not let me. :(

The loaded keymap has nothing to do with it. It's hardcoded into
the syscons driver.

I don't think XFree86 supports the desired functionality. Since
X11 is dealing with keysyms rather than character values, this
would be kind of cumbersome, I guess.

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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 07:09:26PM -0500, TrouBle wrote:
> your patch fails for me.....
> 
>  Extracting for pkg_version-0.1
> >> Checksum OK for pkg_version-0.1.tar.gz.
> ===>  Patching for pkg_version-0.1
> ===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for pkg_version-0.1
> 1 out of 2 hunks failed--saving rejects to /usr/local/bin/pkg_version.rej
> 

Hmm, I think it needs doing by hand.

Install the port for pkg_version.

Apply Nik's patches:

	# patch < pkg_version.diff

Then apply my patch:

	# patch < name_of_file_you_saved_my_diff_in

If Nik's patch fails, it maybe that he's committed it to the port
already, in which case mine may not work.....no, I don't think he
has; I've just cvsup'd the ports and checked (with ``pkg_version
-v'' :) ) and it's still the same:

	pkg_version-0.1             =   up-to-date


> 
> ***************
> *** 252,264 ****
>                 $Comment = "Comparison failed";
>             }
>         }
>       }
>       else {
>         $versionCode = "?";
>         $Comment = "unknown in index";
> -     }
> !     write;
>   }
>   exit 0;
> --- 252,267 ----
>                 $Comment = "Comparison failed";
>             }
>         }
> + +     write;
>       }
>       else {
>         $versionCode = "?";
>         $Comment = "unknown in index";
> !       $~ = "NOEXIST_COMMANDS" if $ShowCommandsFlag;
> !       write;
> !     }
>   }
>   exit 0;
> 
> 
> Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> --
> Windows 95 (win-DOH-z), n. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical
> shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system
> originally coded for a four bit microprocessor which was used in a PC
> built by a formerly two bit company that couldn't stand one bit of
> competition.
> 
> 
> 

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Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

>     I have seen some docs in German also
>     What does zh stands for?

I have a vague feeling it's Chinese, though I'm not sure why it's zh.

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In this thread, somebody said: there isn't ksh93 under FreeBSD.
Well, it's true, there isn't a nativ port of it.  But you can
download the free Linux version, and it works.  (www.kornshell.org)
Bye, Gabor

ZGabor at CoDe dot HU

Ps: of course, my sig works with iot
#!/bin/ksh
Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!';IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;f
or i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40
 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i
;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset
 -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X"


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Hello James,

At first, I would like to apologize for my lengthy posting.  Now let us
see what we can do for your problems :)

> Problem description:
> 
> My employer company's new mail system comprises a Microsoft Exchange server
> version 5.5 SP2 protected by a FreeBSD UNIX version 2.2.5 firewall..

Your FreeBSD system is kind of old.  Since on the www.freebsd.org pages
I seem to have noticed that 2.2.8 was the first version of the
base-system to qualify as Y2K safe, you might consider upgrading to a
newer version.  At least before Jan 1 2000 comes knocking on your door.

>  The internal clients use > the FreeBSD machine as their smtp server.
>  The system has run very > satisfactorily for about a year and a half.

You are using FreeBSD as the server's OS.  But what are you using as
your smtp server or imap4 server software?

> About three weeks ago a new smtp server was installed outside the firewall.
> This runs FreeBSD UNIX version 3.1.

What smtp server software are you using?  Which version?

> Almost immediately reports began to come in of corrupted file
> attachments.  Hitherto only Microsoft Word and Excel documents have
> been examined since these were readily available.

On a Windows platform there are lots of other binary formats you can use 
for testing how your attachments work.  The executables .exe and .dll
might be of some use, archives like .zip and/or .rar files was what I
would use next, etc. etc. endless binary formats.

> The new smtp server was at first assumed to be the cause and was taken
> out of the system, whereupon the level of reports reduced drastically
> but did not disappear altogether.

Which means that the new server was not the real cause of the problem,
but somehow helped in making things even worse.

> Further investigation confirmed that the problem had not disappeared
> with the removal of the smtp server.  Mail passing in one direction
> from an account with one local Internet service provider to our
> company Exchange server could be relied upon to corrupt file
> attachments provided the client program was configured for html
> format.


> Mail passing out from our Exchange server to the same account
> was apparently not affected.

When mail is sent from Exchange to the ISP server, the protocols
involved are (correct me if I'm wrong):

		  smtp		  smtp
	Exchange ------> FreeBSD ------> ISP's smtp server

This means that the following programs work correctly (at least as
they're expected to work):

  * Your Exchange smtp forwarder.
  * The smtp listener of your FreeBSD, and it's smtp forwarder
    (these are usually part of the same package).
  * The ISP's smtp listener.

> Mail to and from accounts with two other major Internet service
> providers passed without corruption of the file attachments.

Assuming that you're using the same FreeBSD machine as above, the plan
now would be something like:

				   smtp
			 FreeBSD <------ ISP's smtp server
			   :
			   : later on
		  imap4	   :
	Outlook <------- FreeBSD

> File attachments to mail from our Exchange server back to our Exchange
> server routed via the new smtp server were also corrupted in a
> reproducible manner.

The fact that your attachments are corrupted means that one of the
programs involved in this type of connection does not work as expected.
Let's see what programs are involved:

  * The ISP's smtp forwarder.
  * The FreeBSD's smtp listener.
  * The imap4 server on FreeBSD.

You can check if mail reaches the FreeBSD machine without being
corrupted by your ISP's smtp forwarder or the FreeBSD listener, by the
following simple process.  Install some mail user agent on the FreeBSD
machine; well known such programs include Pine, Mutt, elm, etc.  Then
(after making sure that imap4 server is not running) copy a mailbox that 
contains some attachments to /tmp and restart imap4 server, so as not to 
hinder the users trying to access their mail through imap4.  Then open
the mailbox with a mail user agent in FreeBSD, and see if you can
extract the attached documents.  Check with a non-corrupted copy of the
documents to see if you managed to extract them correctly.  This can be
as simple as FTP'ing a copy of the documents, and using cmp(1) as in:

	% cmp good.doc attached.doc ; echo $?

if that prints zero (0), then the attached document is fine.

If this works and you find out that the attachment has reached the BSD
machine through your ISP's smtp forwarder without corruption, then the
breaking of the data happens on the next stage, quite possibly the imap4 
server process.

If you find that this is true, then check with your imap4 server's
vendor for newer versions or bugs with the version that you have
installed on your BSD machine.

On the other hand, if you discover that on the BSD machine the
attachments arrive broken, you might find useful a mail transfer agent
that is 8-bit clean (like Sendmail's latest versions, or qmail, or
postfix, etc).

Hoping that all this will prove helpful somehow...
Regards.

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Xingchun Chen <xcchen@unlserve.unl.edu> writes:

> Hello, 
> 
> When I install FreeBSD (3.3), I chose TWM window manager. But I do not it,
> can someone tell me how to 
> change to another window manager system? 

Assuming that you have installed another window manager from the ports
(for this, try: cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/SOMETHING ; make install) you can
change on a per-user basis which window manager will be used by copying
the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc file in your home dir as ~/.xinitrc 
and editing it's last few lines to execute the window manager of your
choise.

Trying to avoid another "my wm is the best" thread I will not fall in
the trap of recommending a specific window manager from the ports.  You
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Annelise Anderson wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> 
> > Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > >
> > > This interests me quite a lot, because I have external 56K Sportster
> > > Robotics modems at home and at the office (on a regular phone
> > > line); I can dial out just fine and make connections, but I can't
> > > get the modem at the office to answer and establish a connection
> > > at better than 9600.  This is v.90; maybe I should turn that off?
> >
> > The v.90 should be a choice. For example, I occasionally get 28.8kb
> > and I know I have a bad line but the handshaking also has a different
> > tone and I was told that was leaving v.90.
> >
> > Your two user modems should not be able to connect are more than 33.6
> > because each considers the other an upload and settle for 33.6 kb max.
> > The modems that support 53kb are different from the ones a user can
> > purchase.
> >
> > I don't have any idea why they wouldn't connect at 33.6kb other than a
> > mismatch or line quality between them. That is terrible and I would
> > expect a configuration problem. They are supposed to argue until they
> > come up with something they both support. In your case, it is 9.6 kb
> >
> > You can set them up to tell what the connection is and I would log
> > that and see if it provides any clues.
> >
> > Kent
> 
> The problem is that unless I have std.9600 in /etc/ttys, I can't
> connect at all; I either get continual garbage on the screen or a
> login that responds but doesn't allow the ppp (or pppd) connection
> to come up.  These failure don't log.  For a while I had some sort
> of a rotary thing set up in gettytab, but this doesn't work either.

Have you tried locking the DTE rate and let the modem buffer the
connection. I use &F1 and &B1. That locks the serial rate between the
computer and the modem and specifies Hardware Flow control. You fix
the serial port at some rate such a 57.6kb or 115.2kb and let the
modem connect at what ever speed it wants to. You have to use Hardware
flow control (RTS/CTS) to block when one of the pieces is getting
ahead of the other.

Kent

> 
>          Annelise
> > >
> > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ion Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Could someone provide me with some info about this type of
> > > > > modem ? (If possible also a web resource and/or some tehnical
> > > > > book, as my boss is a little bit untrustfull).
> > > > >
> > > > > I`m having a debate with my boss: he tella me it is not a good
> > > > > modem becouse "it doesn`t look like" the one he saw at our ISP.
> > > > > I need to demostrate him that it is a good modem for a dial up
> > > > > connection over a analog line and also for a dedicated analog line,
> > > > > and that it is capable to "understand" GOOD with the Sportser and
> > > > > Courier modems our provider has.
> > > > > It undestands the V.90, x2, V.34, V.42/MNP 2-4, V.42 bis/MNP 5
> > > > > standards.
> > > >
> > > > You can get the information from 3Com's web site at
> > > > http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/products/prod-56k.html. I am with your
> > > > boss because I can't see using a voice modem, which needs additional
> > > > system capability to be functional, on a computer dial up line. I
> > > > equate adding a voice and Pro modem on to a FreeBSD system with more
> > > > cost and no additional functionality to the dial out capabilities of
> > > > your system.
> > > >
> > > > I have also found that USR modems (Sportster's, Courier's, and etc)
> > > > talk to each other just fine. An external voice modem isn't going to
> > > > look like a rackmount modem, which your ISP probably has.
> > > >
> > > > Kent
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ionut
> > > > >
> > > > > __________________________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > Ion Mihai Tetcu
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> > > > > ARDOR - www.ardor.ro
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> > > > >
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> > > > --
> > > > Kent Stewart
> > > > Richland, WA
> > > >
> > > > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com
> > > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html
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> > > >
> > > > Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR
> > > > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > --
> > Kent Stewart
> > Richland, WA
> >
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> >
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> >
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is there anything that will securely delete data from the freespace of a
filesystem, say i have like financial data on my system, and i want it
deleted, i can rm some-file-name

but in actuality even though its gone, various foprensic utilities make
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is there something to wipe the freespace on freebsd file systems ???? to
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In some mail from TrouBle, sie said:
> 
> is there anything that will securely delete data from the freespace of a
> filesystem, say i have like financial data on my system, and i want it
> deleted, i can rm some-file-name
> 
> but in actuality even though its gone, various foprensic utilities make
> the data recoverable
> 
> is there something to wipe the freespace on freebsd file systems ???? to
> make data deleted unrecoverable ???


alias rm "cp /dev/zero \!1; rm \!1"

or something like that


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Does anyone ahve FreeBSD running on a Thinkpad 600E? I have one I am trying to
get going and the internal modem is not working, or does not seem to be....

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E-Mail: William Woods <wwoods@cybcon.com>
Date: 17-Nov-99
Time: 18:06:06
FreeBSD 3.3 -Stable
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Hi!

Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
Please Cc: replies to me, i'm not on list.

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You do not need to edit rc.local or rc.firewall to use natd.
All you need to do is make the appropriate changes in rc.conf
and everything is launched automatically at boot.

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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 03:21:17PM -0000, taohuang wrote:
> I have install the natd. And sb tell me that I should put one 
> line in rc.local and rc.firewall.
> And I do it like this. 
> I put the line in the rc.local
> natd -interface ep0    
> 
> I put the follow three line in the rc.firewall
> ipfw -f flush 
> ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ep0
> ipfw add pass all from any to any
> 
> But the natd didn`t run after reboot and I had to run the four 
> lines by myself.What is the matter with it? Where should I put 
> this line in?


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Wed Nov 17 20:23:38 1999
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In-Reply-To: <38336910.AA589DD2@netquick.net> from "TrouBle" at Nov 17, 99 09:48:48 pm
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This thread was discussed in *agonizing* length about 6 months or a year
ago.  You might want to check the archive, at:

  http://www.freebsd.org/search/

Lots of good solutions and advice, and lots of bad, were discussed.  But
it's all there for you to peruse...

Lo and behold, TrouBle once said:
> 
> is there anything that will securely delete data from the freespace of a
> filesystem, say i have like financial data on my system, and i want it
> deleted, i can rm some-file-name
> 
> but in actuality even though its gone, various foprensic utilities make
> the data recoverable
> 
> is there something to wipe the freespace on freebsd file systems ???? to
> make data deleted unrecoverable ???
> 
> --
> Windows 95 (win-DOH-z), n. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical
> shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system
> originally coded for a four bit microprocessor which was used in a PC
> built by a formerly two bit company that couldn't stand one bit of
> competition.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Does freebsd run on nubus based powermacs?



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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, David G Andersen wrote:

> This thread was discussed in *agonizing* length about 6 months or a year
> ago.  You might want to check the archive, at:
> 
>   http://www.freebsd.org/search/
> 
> Lots of good solutions and advice, and lots of bad, were discussed.  But
> it's all there for you to peruse...
> 

The thread was "Secure deletion". There is a handy prog in Message-ID
  <378A58EA.ACF1412F@softweyr.com>

-

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I have a somewhat large postgres database on a server (currently about
6gig). The data is only written to once a day, and otherwise is just read
the rest of the day. The machine has after running for a while shows
Mem: 23M Active, 99M Inact, 16M Wired, 8664K Cache, 8344K Buf, 40M Free

Would it make sense to tune my kernel so that the disk cache is larger ?
If so, where would I tune this.

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Yes, and you can't, it's a winmodem(only works with microcrap), not a
"real" modem... :( You can search the archives, or visit
http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/PAO/ for more information on setting up PCMCIA so
you can use a PC card modem...

Later...



At 07:10 PM 11/17/99 -0800, William Woods wrote:
>Does anyone ahve FreeBSD running on a Thinkpad 600E? I have one I am
trying to
>get going and the internal modem is not working, or does not seem to be....
>
>----------------------------------
>E-Mail: William Woods <wwoods@cybcon.com>
>Date: 17-Nov-99
>Time: 18:06:06
>FreeBSD 3.3 -Stable
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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 10:06:28AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> Xingchun Chen <xcchen@unlserve.unl.edu> writes:
> 
> > Hello, 
> > 
> > When I install FreeBSD (3.3), I chose TWM window manager. But I do not it,
> > can someone tell me how to 
> > change to another window manager system? 
> 
> Assuming that you have installed another window manager from the ports
> (for this, try: cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/SOMETHING ; make install) you can
> change on a per-user basis which window manager will be used by copying
> the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc file in your home dir as ~/.xinitrc 
> and editing it's last few lines to execute the window manager of your
> choise.
> 
> Trying to avoid another "my wm is the best" thread I will not fall in
> the trap of recommending a specific window manager from the ports.  You
> have to try and see which one suits your taste best.

And to make it realy flexible you just put in $1 instead of the window
manager name, to be able to `startx windowmanagerofchoice` so you can
change between them easily at first. After a while when you've decided
which one you like you exchange the $1 for the one you like.

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Hi everyone,

I posted this a few weeks ago and got a few answers, but none
of them were fruitful (thanks to all replied though).  I am
reposting with as much background information and detail as I
can in hopes that someone can assist me.

Setup:  3.3-RELEASE cvsup'd about a month ago.  Cable modem,
dual NICs, RFC 1918 net (192.168.1.0/24).  Running IPFW,
gated, NAT.  Everything works great but...

Problem:  Want to redirect PC Anywhere traffic from gateway
to NT box on internal net (192.168.1.2).  From documentation
/sniffer I can tell that PC Anywhere uses UDP "ports" 22 and
5632 and TCP port 5631.  I think I have NAT setup properly
but for the life of me I can't get my NT box to see any
traffic when I attempt a connection via NAT.

Here's my details (sorry for the length):

***********************************************************
/etc/rc.conf

gateway_enable="YES"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="simple"
natd_enable="YES"
natd_flags="-config /etc/natd.conf -log -use_sockets
 (wrap continued) -same_ports -dynamic"
natd_interface="xl1"

***********************************************************

/etc/natd.conf

redirect_port udp 192.168.1.2:22 22
redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.2:5631 5631
redirect_port udp 192.168.1.2:5632 5632

***********************************************************

/var/log/alias.log (after a recent test session)

PacketAlias/InitPacketAliasLog: Packet alias logging enabled.
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=3, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=7  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=5, tcp=3, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=8  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=6, tcp=3, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=9  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=6, tcp=4, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=10  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=6, tcp=5, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=11  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=5, tcp=5, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=10  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=6, tcp=5, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=11  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=6, tcp=4, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=10  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=5, tcp=4, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=9  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=6, tcp=4, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=10  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=5, tcp=4, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=9  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=4, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=8  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=5, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=9  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=6, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=10  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=5, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=9  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=6, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=10  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=7, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=11  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=3, tcp=7, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=10  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=3, tcp=8, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=11  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=3, tcp=9, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=12  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=9, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=13  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=8, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=12  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=9, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=13  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=10, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=14  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=9, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=13  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=10, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=14  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=11, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=15  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=10, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=14  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=4, tcp=9, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=13  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=3, tcp=9, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=12  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=3, tcp=10, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=13  (sock=0)
icmp=0, udp=3, tcp=11, frag_id=0 frag_ptr=0 / tot=14  (sock=0)

***********************************************************

Compiled KERNEL Options:

# IPFW setup
options		IPFIREWALL
options		IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options		IPFIREWALL_FORWARD
options		"IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=1000"

# NAT setup
options		IPDIVERT

***********************************************************

/etc/services

.
.
natd		8668/divert # Network Address Translation
.
.

***********************************************************

Things I've tried to get MS' Network Monitor to see the
traffic:

1. Lightened up on my firewall rules.  Heck, even added
this rule for testing purposes:

ipfw add 101 allow ip from any to any

I added this rule right after rule 100, the "divert"
rule...

2. RTFMs

3. Disabled Secure Shell, since /etc/services says it uses
TCP and UDP ports 22.  I figured it couldn't hurt and may
avoid some conflict.

That's about it.  When I sit at another NT box at
192.168.1.4 and try using PC Anywhere to connect to
192.168.1.2 *directly* it works fine.  I have MS' lousy
Network Monitor utility running on the 192.168.1.2 box
and it sees the traffic on UDP 22 and TCP 5631 just fine.
However, when I sit at the same machine and try to
connect to 192.168.1.2 via my public IP via NAT, I see
no traffic whatsoever hitting the 192.168.1.2 box.

Anybody have any ideas how to troubleshoot this further?
The /var/log/alias.log file seems next to useless to me,
is there a way to make the output more verbose?

TIA,

-Sean Noonan



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In the last episode (Nov 17), Mike Tancsa said:
> 
> I have a somewhat large postgres database on a server (currently about
> 6gig). The data is only written to once a day, and otherwise is just read
> the rest of the day. The machine has after running for a while shows
> Mem: 23M Active, 99M Inact, 16M Wired, 8664K Cache, 8344K Buf, 40M Free
> 
> Would it make sense to tune my kernel so that the disk cache is larger ?
> If so, where would I tune this.

FreeBSD uses all available RAM as a disk cache.  The Inact, Cache, and
Buf amounts are all "cache" memory, just varying types.  I'm sort of
surprised about the 40M of Free memory, though.  Most systems hover at
< 5M free.  Did a memory-hogging process (Netscape, say) just exit?
 
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I've installed FreeBSD 3.3 quite a few times and this was my first that was
not %100 successful. Upon trying to install the local additions collection
under distributions it comes back with:

Couldn't extract the following distributions.  This may
be because they were not available on the installation
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local

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Gabor Zahemszky <zgabor@spike.fa.gau.hu> wrote:

> In this thread, somebody said: there isn't ksh93 under FreeBSD.
> Well, it's true, there isn't a nativ port of it.  But you can
> download the free Linux version, and it works.  (www.kornshell.org)

Assuming Linux emulation?

You can also download the 1998 BSD/OS version. That one runs out
of the box on FreeBSD/i386. In fact, there *is* a port to install
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On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 09:43:47PM +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> It's there in the ports tree under sysutils.  I just can't get it to
> download....
> 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:
> 
> >so your saying this pkg_version isnt available to anyone ???? you dont
> >have it ?? is there any url for me to try and find it ???

I'm downloading at this very moment, so it works (to download that is),
but I had to try 4 times in a row.

> >
> >Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> >> 
> >> I believe at www.freebsd.ork/~nik there is a diff file that can be used as
> >> a patch for pkg_version.  It is supposed to check all ports installed and
> >> compare them to the last cvsup list of ports.  If there is an update you
> >> may want, it lets you know.  I would try this if it weren't for two
> >> things:
> >> 
> >> 1.  I'm  not quite sure how to apply patches.. i think it's a basic 'patch
> >> INFILE OUTFILE' command, but that's only part of the problem...
> >> 
> >> 2.  I can't get pkg_version to install.  I've tried several times, but the
> >> file servers all tell me 'permission denied' to DL the distfiles i need.
> >> 
> >> So i gave up.  It sure sounds nice, though, doesn't it?
> >> 
> >
> >-- 
> >      ...and that is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.
> >
> 
> -jonathon
> 
> 
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At 12:17 AM 11/18/99 , Dan Nelson wrote:
>In the last episode (Nov 17), Mike Tancsa said:
>> Mem: 23M Active, 99M Inact, 16M Wired, 8664K Cache, 8344K Buf, 40M Free
>> 
>> Would it make sense to tune my kernel so that the disk cache is larger ?
>> If so, where would I tune this.
>
>FreeBSD uses all available RAM as a disk cache.  The Inact, Cache, and
>Buf amounts are all "cache" memory, just varying types.  I'm sort of
>surprised about the 40M of Free memory, though.  Most systems hover at
>< 5M free.  Did a memory-hogging process (Netscape, say) just exit?

No.  Actually, that was taken 1hr after doing a make world and reboot.
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i appreciate all the help, but this is not what im looking for... i want
to WIPE freespace on the disk

obliterate only wipes the one file you specify.. i want to wipe all the
free space on the disk, without damaging good intact files on it, linux
has a progrtam called wipe that does this, now ill ask again is there
something similiar for freebsd

> 
> The thread was "Secure deletion". There is a handy prog in Message-ID
>   <378A58EA.ACF1412F@softweyr.com>
> 

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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote:

> 
> I have a somewhat large postgres database on a server (currently about
> 6gig). The data is only written to once a day, and otherwise is just read
> the rest of the day. The machine has after running for a while shows
> Mem: 23M Active, 99M Inact, 16M Wired, 8664K Cache, 8344K Buf, 40M Free
> 
> Would it make sense to tune my kernel so that the disk cache is larger ?
> If so, where would I tune this.

We just 'tuned' postgres over here, what you might want to try is 
increasing the amount of shared memory in your kernel and tell
postgresql to use it.

options         SHMMAXPGS=262144
options         SHMSEG=32

this is for over 256MB of shared memory, you'll want a smaller
value.

try starting postmaster with higher and higher values for "-B N"
we use  -B 32768, but again, you'll probably want something smaller.

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James Gill wrote:

> Hi...I'm trying to understand and use the CVSup program and stay current
> with FreeBSD.  I'm reading the handbook on www.freebsd.org and I am thrown
> off by the third paragraph on section 18.3.3.2 that seems to say that the
> Modula-3 libraries will be compiled and/or installed automatically when I
> install the CVSup port.
> 
> Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, so here's a summary of what I've done:
> => installed the system with a minimal install from CDs of 3.2-RELEASE
> => put make on the system (grabbed from ports/distfiles/Mk) to help
> install future programs
> => installed BIND (needs to be updated with latest version, i know)
> => system sat idle as other real-life things prioritized ahead (familiar?)
> ....and today....
> => copied cvsup-16.0.tar.gz from ftp5.freebsd.org to /usr/ports/cvsup/
...
>       m3build: not found
>       *** error code 127

Some of these pathnames look slightly wrong.  For example, "cvsup"
should be in "/usr/ports/net/cvsup", and "Mk" should be in
"/usr/ports/Mk".  Also you're missing some dependencies such as
"/usr/ports/lang/modula-3-lib" and "/usr/ports/lang/modula-3".  In
general if you're working with an incomplete ports tree you are likely
to run into problems.

Here's what I'd recommend.  Grab

  /pub/FreeBSD/development/CVSup/binaries/cvsup-freebsd-ix86-aout-16.0.tar.gz

from ftp.freebsd.org or any mirror site.  Untar it and follow the
instructions in the "Install" file to install it manually.  Then use
CVSup to grab yourself a complete and up-to-date ports tree, if you
wish.

John
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To: TrouBle <trouble@netquick.net>
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:

> obliterate only wipes the one file you specify.. i want to wipe all the
> free space on the disk, without damaging good intact files on it, linux
> has a progrtam called wipe that does this, now ill ask again is there
> something similiar for freebsd

dd if=/dev/zero of=/usr/bigfile || rm -f /usr/bigfile

Replace /dev/zero with /dev/urandom according to taste.

Kris

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hi all,

can you point me to a program so that users can change their passwords
over the web? thanks!

- -- 
francis vidal	university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines
. . . . . . .	PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key
u s l s N E T	tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415

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I'm trying to start cvsupd on a box.

# su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -C 8 -l daemon -s 
/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client"
Cannot create "daemon": Permission denied

It will start with this command:

# su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -s 
/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client"
1999.11.18 19:44:03 NZDT [26301]: CVSup server started
1999.11.18 19:44:03 NZDT [26301]: Software version: REL_16_0
1999.11.18 19:44:03 NZDT [26301]: Protocol version: 16.0
1999.11.18 19:44:04 NZDT [26301]: Ready to service requests

But it's not a daemon.

The following also works.

/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -C 8 -l daemon -s 
/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client 

I don't understand and can't get past this.  Any clues?

The box is running 3.2-release
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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 achoi@flashmail.com.110 wrote:
> Does freebsd run on nubus based powermacs?

No, it only runs on Intel (and compatible) and Alpha machines.

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In message <Pine.LNX.3.96.991112164258.2074A-100000@minerva.simons-rock.edu> David Kane-Parry writes:
: Is the D-Link DE-660CT PCMCIA ethernet adapter supported in 3.3-RELEASE?

No.  Support was added to current after freebsd con, and I know it
wasn't back ported in time for 3.3 release.

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In message <Pine.OSF.3.96.991112200612.31393A-100000@mbs.valinet.com> Alan Corey writes:
: I'm using one to write this.  Just use the ed0 driver: there's already an
: entry in /etc/pccard.conf for the DE-660.

I stand corrected.  Never mind.

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Hi. AFAIK I need these files:

xvg16.tgz
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to install the XF86 in 3.3 release of FreeBSD. I can't find them in the
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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
 
> Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > 
> > > Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This interests me quite a lot, because I have external 56K Sportster
> > > > Robotics modems at home and at the office (on a regular phone
> > > > line); I can dial out just fine and make connections, but I can't
> > > > get the modem at the office to answer and establish a connection
> > > > at better than 9600.  This is v.90; maybe I should turn that off?
> > >
> > > The v.90 should be a choice. For example, I occasionally get 28.8kb
> > > and I know I have a bad line but the handshaking also has a different
> > > tone and I was told that was leaving v.90.
> > >
> > > Your two user modems should not be able to connect are more than 33.6
> > > because each considers the other an upload and settle for 33.6 kb max.
> > > The modems that support 53kb are different from the ones a user can
> > > purchase.
> > >
> > > I don't have any idea why they wouldn't connect at 33.6kb other than a
> > > mismatch or line quality between them. That is terrible and I would
> > > expect a configuration problem. They are supposed to argue until they
> > > come up with something they both support. In your case, it is 9.6 kb
> > >
> > > You can set them up to tell what the connection is and I would log
> > > that and see if it provides any clues.
> > >
> > > Kent
> > 
> > The problem is that unless I have std.9600 in /etc/ttys, I can't
> > connect at all; I either get continual garbage on the screen or a
> > login that responds but doesn't allow the ppp (or pppd) connection
> > to come up.  These failure don't log.  For a while I had some sort
> > of a rotary thing set up in gettytab, but this doesn't work either.
> 
> Have you tried locking the DTE rate and let the modem buffer the
> connection. I use &F1 and &B1. That locks the serial rate between the
> computer and the modem and specifies Hardware Flow control. You fix
> the serial port at some rate such a 57.6kb or 115.2kb and let the
> modem connect at what ever speed it wants to. You have to use Hardware
> flow control (RTS/CTS) to block when one of the pieces is getting
> ahead of the other.
> 
> Kent

Yes, I have a definition in gettytab that looks like this:

# AA's VHS modem
vm|VH300|VHS at 300,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH57600:tc=std.300:
vn|VH1200|VHS at 1200,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH300:tc=std.1200:
vo|VH2400|VHS at 2400,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH1200:tc=std.2400:
vp|VH9600|VHS at 9600,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH2400:tc=std.9600:
vq|VH14400|VHS at 14400,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH9600:tc=std.14400:
vs|VH19200|VHS at 19200,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH14400:tc=std.19200:
vt|VH28800|VHS at 28800,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH19200:tc=std.28800:
vu|VH38400|VHS at 38400,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH28800:tc=std.38400:
vv|VH57600|VHS at 57600,8-bit:\
	:nx=VH38400:tc=std.57600:
 
that I use with VH38400 in ttys instead of std.9600, in the ttyd0 entry: 

ttyd0	"/usr/libexec/getty VH38400"	dialup	on secure

The modem output looks like this: (Maybe it needs to be B1 in the
first line?)

Script started on Wed Nov 17 23:20:10 1999
Connected.
ATATE1Q0
OK
ATI4
U.S. Robotics 56K FAX EXT Settings...

   B0  E1  F1  M1  Q0  V1  X4  Y0
   BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8
   DIAL=TONE    ON HOOK   CID=0

   &A3  &B1  &C1  &D2  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1
   &M4  &N0  &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1  

   S00=001  S01=000  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002
   S07=060  S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000
   S15=000  S16=000  S18=000  S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019
   S25=005  S27=000  S28=008  S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002
   S33=000  S34=000  S35=000  S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001
   S41=000  S42=000
 
   LAST DIALED #: T

OK
ATI5
U.S. Robotics 56K FAX EXT NVRAM Settings...

 Template Y0

   DIAL=TONE   B0  F1  M1  X4
   BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8

   &A3  &B1  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1  &M4  &N0
   &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1

   S00=001  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002  S07=060
   S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000  S15=000
   S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019  S25=005  S27=000  S28=008
   S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002  S33=000  S34=000  S35=000
   S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001  S41=000  S42=000
 

Strike a key when ready . . .


 Template Y1

   DIAL=TONE   B0  F1  M1  X4
   BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8

   &A3  &B1  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1  &M4  &N0
   &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1

   S00=001  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002  S07=060
   S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000  S15=000
   S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019  S25=005  S27=000  S28=008
   S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002  S33=000  S34=000  S35=000
   S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001  S41=000  S42=000
 
OK
ATE0Q1&W1W0
Script done on Wed Nov 17 23:26:37 1999

I've struggled a lot with this without success, so I appreciate
your efforts to help.  I hope I'm doing something wrong, however
stupid.  I even sent a modem back to U.S. Robotics for "repair."

The output of stty -a -f /dev/ttyd0 shows it (I'm not sure if it's
the rate at which it is connecting to the computer or the line)
as:

speed 9600 baud; 0 rows; 0 columns;
lflags: -icanon -isig -iexten -echo -echoe -echok -echoke -echonl
	-echoctl -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho -pendin
	-nokerninfo -extproc
iflags: -istrip -icrnl -inlcr -igncr -ixon -ixoff -ixany -imaxbel -ignbrk
	-brkint -inpck -ignpar -parmrk
oflags: -opost -onlcr -oxtabs
cflags: cread cs8 -parenb -parodd hupcl -clocal -cstopb -crtscts -dsrflow
	-dtrflow -mdmbuf
cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = <undef>;
	eol2 = <undef>; erase = ^?; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V;
	min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ^T;
	stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W;

Annelise



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Your comment about B0 rang a bell because that is where it chooses ITU
or US answering tones. B1 is US tones. I was really thinking of &H1
and &R2 instead of &F1.

I don't know about your stty command because I was always on the PC
end when we tested the lines. With user-ppp, I set the line to 115.2
kb and tell it to dial. No one dials into this system.

Your initialization on the one that is answering at 9600 needs to be
pre-established at 38.4 kb or 57.6 kb. If the link between the
computer and the modem is established at 9600 the modem will not
select a higher baud rate.

Kent

Annelise Anderson wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> 
> > Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > >
> > > > Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This interests me quite a lot, because I have external 56K Sportster
> > > > > Robotics modems at home and at the office (on a regular phone
> > > > > line); I can dial out just fine and make connections, but I can't
> > > > > get the modem at the office to answer and establish a connection
> > > > > at better than 9600.  This is v.90; maybe I should turn that off?
> > > >
> > > > The v.90 should be a choice. For example, I occasionally get 28.8kb
> > > > and I know I have a bad line but the handshaking also has a different
> > > > tone and I was told that was leaving v.90.
> > > >
> > > > Your two user modems should not be able to connect are more than 33.6
> > > > because each considers the other an upload and settle for 33.6 kb max.
> > > > The modems that support 53kb are different from the ones a user can
> > > > purchase.
> > > >
> > > > I don't have any idea why they wouldn't connect at 33.6kb other than a
> > > > mismatch or line quality between them. That is terrible and I would
> > > > expect a configuration problem. They are supposed to argue until they
> > > > come up with something they both support. In your case, it is 9.6 kb
> > > >
> > > > You can set them up to tell what the connection is and I would log
> > > > that and see if it provides any clues.
> > > >
> > > > Kent
> > >
> > > The problem is that unless I have std.9600 in /etc/ttys, I can't
> > > connect at all; I either get continual garbage on the screen or a
> > > login that responds but doesn't allow the ppp (or pppd) connection
> > > to come up.  These failure don't log.  For a while I had some sort
> > > of a rotary thing set up in gettytab, but this doesn't work either.
> >
> > Have you tried locking the DTE rate and let the modem buffer the
> > connection. I use &F1 and &B1. That locks the serial rate between the
> > computer and the modem and specifies Hardware Flow control. You fix
> > the serial port at some rate such a 57.6kb or 115.2kb and let the
> > modem connect at what ever speed it wants to. You have to use Hardware
> > flow control (RTS/CTS) to block when one of the pieces is getting
> > ahead of the other.
> >
> > Kent
> 
> Yes, I have a definition in gettytab that looks like this:
> 
> # AA's VHS modem
> vm|VH300|VHS at 300,8-bit:\
>         :nx=VH57600:tc=std.300:
> vn|VH1200|VHS at 1200,8-bit:\
>         :nx=VH300:tc=std.1200:
> vo|VH2400|VHS at 2400,8-bit:\
>         :nx=VH1200:tc=std.2400:
> vp|VH9600|VHS at 9600,8-bit:\
>         :nx=VH2400:tc=std.9600:
> vq|VH14400|VHS at 14400,8-bit:\
>         :nx=VH9600:tc=std.14400:
> vs|VH19200|VHS at 19200,8-bit:\
>         :nx=VH14400:tc=std.19200:
> vt|VH28800|VHS at 28800,8-bit:\
>         :nx=VH19200:tc=std.28800:
> vu|VH38400|VHS at 38400,8-bit:\
>         :nx=VH28800:tc=std.38400:
> vv|VH57600|VHS at 57600,8-bit:\
>         :nx=VH38400:tc=std.57600:
> 
> that I use with VH38400 in ttys instead of std.9600, in the ttyd0 entry:
> 
> ttyd0   "/usr/libexec/getty VH38400"    dialup  on secure
> 
> The modem output looks like this: (Maybe it needs to be B1 in the
> first line?)
> 
> Script started on Wed Nov 17 23:20:10 1999
> Connected.
> ATATE1Q0
> OK
> ATI4
> U.S. Robotics 56K FAX EXT Settings...
> 
>    B0  E1  F1  M1  Q0  V1  X4  Y0
>    BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8
>    DIAL=TONE    ON HOOK   CID=0
> 
>    &A3  &B1  &C1  &D2  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1
>    &M4  &N0  &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1
> 
>    S00=001  S01=000  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002
>    S07=060  S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000
>    S15=000  S16=000  S18=000  S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019
>    S25=005  S27=000  S28=008  S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002
>    S33=000  S34=000  S35=000  S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001
>    S41=000  S42=000
> 
>    LAST DIALED #: T
> 
> OK
> ATI5
> U.S. Robotics 56K FAX EXT NVRAM Settings...
> 
>  Template Y0
> 
>    DIAL=TONE   B0  F1  M1  X4
>    BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8
> 
>    &A3  &B1  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1  &M4  &N0
>    &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1
> 
>    S00=001  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002  S07=060
>    S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000  S15=000
>    S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019  S25=005  S27=000  S28=008
>    S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002  S33=000  S34=000  S35=000
>    S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001  S41=000  S42=000
> 
> 
> Strike a key when ready . . .
> 
>  Template Y1
> 
>    DIAL=TONE   B0  F1  M1  X4
>    BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8
> 
>    &A3  &B1  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1  &M4  &N0
>    &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1
> 
>    S00=001  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002  S07=060
>    S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000  S15=000
>    S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019  S25=005  S27=000  S28=008
>    S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002  S33=000  S34=000  S35=000
>    S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001  S41=000  S42=000
> 
> OK
> ATE0Q1&W1W0
> Script done on Wed Nov 17 23:26:37 1999
> 
> I've struggled a lot with this without success, so I appreciate
> your efforts to help.  I hope I'm doing something wrong, however
> stupid.  I even sent a modem back to U.S. Robotics for "repair."
> 
> The output of stty -a -f /dev/ttyd0 shows it (I'm not sure if it's
> the rate at which it is connecting to the computer or the line)
> as:
> 
> speed 9600 baud; 0 rows; 0 columns;
> lflags: -icanon -isig -iexten -echo -echoe -echok -echoke -echonl
>         -echoctl -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho -pendin
>         -nokerninfo -extproc
> iflags: -istrip -icrnl -inlcr -igncr -ixon -ixoff -ixany -imaxbel -ignbrk
>         -brkint -inpck -ignpar -parmrk
> oflags: -opost -onlcr -oxtabs
> cflags: cread cs8 -parenb -parodd hupcl -clocal -cstopb -crtscts -dsrflow
>         -dtrflow -mdmbuf
> cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = <undef>;
>         eol2 = <undef>; erase = ^?; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V;
>         min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ^T;
>         stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W;
> 
> Annelise
> 
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Hi.  This is my yearly query to see whether FreeBSD has a kernel threads
package yet.

I'm not on any of the mailing lists, so I'd appreciate it if someone could
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I have a major Networks project due in a week or so.

I really wanted to Show off FreeBSD 2.2.5, i know its old, and out do
those others going with Linux...I am really stuck on how to get the Alpha
to run the executable on the CD-ROM so i can install it...

Is there documentation? 

Thanks alot!
Art.




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Thanks for your full and detailed reply, Giorgios.

> At first, I would like to apologize for my lengthy posting.  Now let =
us
> see what we can do for your problems :)

No need to apologize.  The original was also long.
>=20
> > Problem description:
> >=20
> > My employer company's new mail system comprises a Microsoft Exchange =
server
> > version 5.5 SP2 protected by a FreeBSD UNIX version 2.2.5 firewall..
>=20
> Your FreeBSD system is kind of old.  Since on the www.freebsd.org =
pages
> I seem to have noticed that 2.2.8 was the first version of the
> base-system to qualify as Y2K safe, you might consider upgrading to a
> newer version.  At least before Jan 1 2000 comes knocking on your =
door.

It was for just this reason that we built the new machine with v.3.1, =
and we built a new machine in order to be able to test it before the old =
one was taken out of service.

>=20
> >  The internal clients use > the FreeBSD machine as their smtp =
server.
> >  The system has run very > satisfactorily for about a year and a =
half.
>=20
> You are using FreeBSD as the server's OS.  But what are you using as
> your smtp server or imap4 server software?

This machine is used only for sending mail.  As far as I can see we are =
using the Firewall toolkits smtp-gw but I must admit I don't know =
whether than uses sendmail or smap.  Imap and Pop3 services run on the =
Exchange server.
>=20
> > About three weeks ago a new smtp server was installed outside the =
firewall.
> > This runs FreeBSD UNIX version 3.1.
>=20
> What smtp server software are you using?  Which version?

Juniper smtpd and smtpfwdd version 2.0
>=20
> > Almost immediately reports began to come in of corrupted file
> > attachments.  Hitherto only Microsoft Word and Excel documents have
> > been examined since these were readily available.
>=20
> On a Windows platform there are lots of other binary formats you can =
use=20
> for testing how your attachments work.  The executables .exe and .dll
> might be of some use, archives like .zip and/or .rar files was what I
> would use next, etc. etc. endless binary formats.

True, but the results are easier to see in a simple doc or xls file!

>=20
> > The new smtp server was at first assumed to be the cause and was =
taken
> > out of the system, whereupon the level of reports reduced =
drastically
> > but did not disappear altogether.
>=20
> Which means that the new server was not the real cause of the problem,
> but somehow helped in making things even worse.

... or that the new server displayed on 100% of outgoing messages =
behaviour which had hitherto only been shown by a small proportion of =
them.

>=20
> > Further investigation confirmed that the problem had not disappeared
> > with the removal of the smtp server.  Mail passing in one direction
> > from an account with one local Internet service provider to our
> > company Exchange server could be relied upon to corrupt file
> > attachments provided the client program was configured for html
> > format.
>=20
>=20
> > Mail passing out from our Exchange server to the same account
> > was apparently not affected.
>=20
> When mail is sent from Exchange to the ISP server, the protocols
> involved are (correct me if I'm wrong):
>=20
>   smtp   smtp
> Exchange ------> FreeBSD ------> ISP's smtp server

I expressed myself badly here.  Mail never goes from Exchange to the ISP =
since FreeBSD is the smtp server.  I should have said 'when mail is sent =
from an internal client'  So the picture is:

            smtp
FreeBSD------------> ISP's smtp server

>=20
> This means that the following programs work correctly (at least as
> they're expected to work):
>=20
>   * Your Exchange smtp forwarder.

It does, but from independent tests, not as part of standard procedure.

>   * The smtp listener of your FreeBSD, and it's smtp forwarder
>     (these are usually part of the same package).

Correct

>   * The ISP's smtp listener.

Correct

>=20
> > Mail to and from accounts with two other major Internet service
> > providers passed without corruption of the file attachments.
>=20
> Assuming that you're using the same FreeBSD machine as above, the plan
> now would be something like:

Corrected:

>=20
>    smtp
> FreeBSD <------> ISP's smtp server
>    :
>    : later on
>   imap4    :
> Outlook <-------> FreeBSD
>=20
> > File attachments to mail from our Exchange server back to our =
Exchange
> > server routed via the new smtp server were also corrupted in a
> > reproducible manner.
>=20
> The fact that your attachments are corrupted means that one of the
> programs involved in this type of connection does not work as =
expected.
> Let's see what programs are involved:
>=20
>   * The ISP's smtp forwarder.

Not known

>   * The FreeBSD's smtp listener.

On the new FreeBSD machine this is Juniper smtpd and smtpfwdd

>   * The imap4 server on FreeBSD.

The imap4 server is on Exchange not FreeBSD.

    * a fourth alternative is some function of the opsys on FreeBSD and =
the ISPs machine

>=20
> You can check if mail reaches the FreeBSD machine without being
> corrupted by your ISP's smtp forwarder or the FreeBSD listener, by the
> following simple process.  Install some mail user agent on the FreeBSD
> machine; well known such programs include Pine, Mutt, elm, etc.  Then
> (after making sure that imap4 server is not running) copy a mailbox =
that=20
> contains some attachments to /tmp and restart imap4 server, so as not =
to=20
> hinder the users trying to access their mail through imap4.  Then open
> the mailbox with a mail user agent in FreeBSD, and see if you can
> extract the attached documents.  Check with a non-corrupted copy of =
the
> documents to see if you managed to extract them correctly.  This can =
be
> as simple as FTP'ing a copy of the documents, and using cmp(1) as in:
>=20
> % cmp good.doc attached.doc ; echo $?
>=20
> if that prints zero (0), then the attached document is fine.

Can one not simply mail to an account on this machine?  And can one not =
draw the conclusion that, since the other (older) smtp machine, running =
FreeBSD 2.2.5, receives corrupted files from the affected ISP and not =
from the other ISPs that the corruption takes place at the ISP machine?

Thanks again for making me critically examine what I have done to date =
and trying to formulate a procedure for the next stage.

mvh/regards

James Wilde







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how do i get an Alpha to read an ISO image on a CD-R?

i am planning on getting 3.3 Alpha version, once i get that image to CD
what is the procedure for install on the DEC? 

Thanks alot!
Art.





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Thanks for your input, Mark.

> This is not corruption. M$ proprietry files are binary so they are
> being uuencoded (which maps 3 bytes into 4 so that all bytes can
> be represented in printable chars). This explains the 30% increase
> in size and the CR/LF's as uuencode also splits the resultant file
> into fixed length lines. All you need is to uudecode(1) them.
> Netscape can do this and I'm sure that even M$ mail readers can as
> well; we have a mix of Unix and M$ (Outlook) systems at work and
> passing binary attachments poses no problems.

We don't use uuencode, Mark, since mime can reputedly handle the special =
characters in European languages better than uuencode.  All the files =
are mime encoded.

What I have discovered is that all mails, both corrupt and noncorrupt =
are 30% increased in size as mails.  It is when one tries to save the =
file to disk that the good files reduce back to the 30k file size and =
the bad files remain at the 40k expanded size.

WhenI examine the messages with a hex editor I can see that the two =
files include exactly the same information with the exception of the =
header.  In the bad files this includes considerably more 'next_part' =
tags, and the file ends with a 'next_part' tag.

mvh/regards

James Wilde




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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:14:56 GMT, "Majid Almassari" wrote:

> according to FAQ (http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/troubleshoot.html#AEN1135) =
> you can set the NMBCLUSTERS option in the KERNEL configuration to
> options "NMBCLUSTERS=3D<n>"  where <n> is in the range 512-4096, my two =
> questions are:

> 1. We have servers that this value is set as options
> NMBCLUSTERS=3D8192 is this normal to be that high even in FAQ the MAX
> is 4096.

I see Dag-Erling Smorgrav (one of the FreeBSD developers who manages a
hard-hit IRC network) mentioning that he used 8192 in a message on the
freebsd-hackers mailing list some time back.  He probably knows what
he's doing, so I doubt that this high value is a problem.

> 2. The entry does not have a quotation mark around it as the FAQ does
> is it mandatory to have those quotation marks?

Now that _definitely_ depends on what version of FreeBSD you're using.
If you're using 2.x.x or 3.x, you _must_ use the quotation marks.

> when I issue netstat -m the settings are realized sine it reports
> 
> 3187/3616 mbufs in use:
>         2890 mbufs allocated to data
>         297 mbufs allocated to packet headers
> 2546/2930/8192 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)

Watch that peek value over time. You may be able to drop NMBCLUSTERS
back down to 4096 if you can ascertain that peak doesn't go up
dramatically.

> The reason I'm investigating this is because I get a KERNEL panic and
> the server reboots. The message in the /var/log/messages states:
> /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCLUSTERS or increase maxusers!

I sincerely hope you got that message _before_ you booted the kernel
that has 8192 NMBCLUSTERS and not _after_!  If even 8192 isn't enough,
you should really try to figure out whether this high consumption is
caused by expected usage, or whether you're under DoS attack.  If the
latter, see what you can do about protecting this machine off from such
attacks.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:

> How are you making the determination that you don't have the newer ports.
> E.g. KDE, TCL, etc...?  Knowing this may help us determine what the actual
> issue is instead of side-steping around it.
> 
> -Chris
  Thank you for your interest in moy trouble first of all,
  as to how I determine it is rather simple I just see
  a structure of my /usr/ports directory.As soon as
  I do not see subdirectories kde Tcl I guess they
  are not here.
  But if in doubt I can surely send the listing of
  ls -al /usr/ports along my ports-supfile if you need
  it.
  Best Regards,
  Ariel Burbaickij
  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
> > Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:28 PM
> > To:	Alex Charalabidis
> > Cc:	Ariel Burbaickij; FreeBSD Questions
> > Subject:	Re: cvsup ports-all question
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into the
> > > > > /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup
> > ports-all
> > > > > should be doing this automatically for every category.
> > > >  What does DL stand for?
> > > >  Regards 
> > > 
> > > DL stands for "download". You don't want to do it this way because stale
> > > directories and patches will not be deleted, causing any number of
> > > problems. If you do download the tarball, you want to wipe /usr/ports
> > > first, maybe keeping only the distfiles you expect to need, and only
> > then
> > > unpack the new one.
> > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after it?(e.g.
> > kde
> > > > > >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to do
> > it and 
> > > > > >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a
> > question
> > > > > >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on it
> > > > > >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
> > > > > >suggestions?
> > > 
> > > I don't quite get the question... cvsup'ing ports-all should leave you
> > > with all that's new in the right place and all that's old gone (and if
> > > it's not there, there's no port for it...). No problem and don't worry,
> > be
> > > happy.
> > > 
> > > -ac
> >  I know what they should it was not so hard to guess :)) I even
> >  did not get what should be here but rather the things I got
> >  what I can send is the listing of my /usr/ports AFTER updating
> >  my ports-supfile so that you can persude yourself.
> >  As to actual timepoint I am missing in UPDATED tree kde Tcl
> >  and some other new-comers.
> >  As to the being happy I surely am but somehow miss the ports,though
> >  just post the files and listings you would like to get from me.
> >  PS
> >  MY original system was 3.2-rel so it is clear to me what came
> >  added later and what not
> >  Best Regards
> >  Ariel Burbaickij
> >  
> > > 
> > > -- 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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Morning all,

Got an interesting one here...
We have developed a system which involves the auditing of mail delivery for
lawyers. Now Standard Bank want to bastardise this sytem slightly and use it
for auditing mail delivery within the bank of important financial
information for whatever. Now the server resides at an ISP and has been
manipulated around Standard Bank's needs - with one exception: their
firewall policies.

They refuse to open port 110 on their routers or firewalls or wherever they
are doing their anal policies - so I discussed a workaround with one of
their more open-minded techies there and he believes this will be
acceptable.

At the moment the box is running cucipop on port 110 on its primary IP. What
we want to do is assign the box another IP and map cucipop to port 80 on
that IP.

Firstly - does anyone see any problems with this solution.
Secondly - how on earth do I do this!!!!

Cheers

Mike




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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:18:56 +0100, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

> How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after it?(e.g.
> kde Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to do
> it and had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a
> question of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious
> on it I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any
> suggestions?

You know, it really is time you stopped wasting everybody's time with
poorly structured questions.  I'm not talking about your English skills,
because nobody can blame you if it's not your mother language.  I'm
talking about the consistent lack of detail in your messages.

Have you read Greg Lehey's guide to using this mailing list?  If not,
please do so before posting any more messages here.  You can read it
online at:

	http://www.lemis.com/questions.html

So what's wrong this specific question?  Well, you haven't told us:

      * The version of FreeBSD you are using.
      * What your supfile looks like (not the whole thing, just the
	lines that aren't commented).
      * How you run cvsup (the exact command-line).
      * What you see that makes you think something broke.

Saying "I tried to do it and no luck" tells us absolutely nothing.
You've been told this before.  I for one am more than happy to help you,
because I know how hard it can be getting used to the system.  However,
if you aren't going to put the required effort in on your side, I (and
probably others) are going to start ignoring your messages.

So, how about it?  Are you willing to do this properly?  If so, go and
read Greg's guide, then reply to this message giving all the information
I mentioned in the bullet point list above.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Dear FreeBSD team,

First of all thank you for such a stable system.
My problem is related to my sound card. I could'nt make it work with my
FreeBSD system 2.3.
My sound card is Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI. I checked its properties
from the Windows 95 and saw the followings.

Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI  : irq 10 port B800-B83F
Legacy Device : port 0240-024F
                         DMA 01
                         DMA 07
                         port 0330-033F
                         port 0388-038B

I also run sbcfg program of creative and got these results.

Sound Blaster 16 Emulation:
port 240, irq 7,  8 bit dma 1 , 16 bit dma 7

MPU:
port 330 , irq 7

AdLib:
port 388

And now what did i write to my kernel file?

Thank you

Hasan Guclu
Middle East Technical University
Department of Physics
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Hello All!

I've been using Red Hat Linux for quite a long time, but recently decided
to try FreeBSD, since (as I understood) it is much more stable,
intelligently-written and just different from Linux.

I've install it quite easily, however, there are several places which are
still not quite clear to me.  Please note that I've spent some time
searching in previously submitted questions, but wasn't able to find
*exact* answers to my questions.  I hope I won't be annoying ;-)

1).  During installation, when fdisking/labeling my (LBA-mode in BIOS with
638/128/63 CHS) disk (approx view with linux's fdisk):

device      scyl   ecyl   size    type   comments
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
/dev/hda1   63     ...    20M     6      (>=32M DOS FAT)
/dev/hda2   ...    ...    64M     6      (>=32M DOS FAT)
/dev/hda3   ...    ...    ~2G     165    (big FreeBSD slice)
/dev/hda4   ...    638    ...     5      (EXTENDED)
/dev/hda5   ...    ...    ~900M   7      (NTFS)
/dev/hda8   ...    ...    64M	  0x82   (linux swap in case I need it)
/dev/hda7   ...    638    64M     6      (>=32M FAT)

_____
First, strangely enough, fbsd's install-time fdisk didn't show my logical
drives (only extended entry).  Why not?  If I am able to set mount points
to my primary DOS/FAT partitions, than why I can't see my, say, /dev/hda7 
to mount it somewhere too?  Or am I missing anything?  How do I use
mount_msdos to mount logical disks?

______
Second, when defining /, /usr, /tmp, /home, setting mount points for them,
and just before (or after -- can't remember exactly, and I don't want to
repeat installation procedure all over again) dialog box about preferred
boot manager (3 choises), I get this strange warning box:

  +--------------------[Warning!]----------------------+
  |                                                    |
  |     Max one `fat' allowed as child of `whole'      |
  |                                                    |
  +----------------------------------------------------+

What does this suppose to mean?!  I have _no_ idea whatsoever, even any
sort of lame guess.  Just nothing.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

_____
Third, it's about distribution itself.  When I decided to download
FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE to my Linux box, I 'wget -r -b -t 0 -nr 'ed it.  
Everything was fine, except that 'packages'-linked directory/All contained
*huge* amouunt of software.  When examined, it seemed to me that it is
only binaries + some config stuff, but no sources.  But the path was
../../../ports/i386/packages-3.3-release. Is this a port collection or
what?  If so, why no sources, or I didn't get something again?  Moreover,
there is ports/distfiles, seemed to be stuffed this another bunch of
tarballs.  If _this_ is the source port colection, what the purpose of
having packages link in FreeBSD "distribution root"?  Well, OK,
installator seems to be fetching binaries from packages, without compiling
them (obviously) -- like when I select GNOME/Enlightement as my preferred
window manager, but still, I can't understand how all this fits on single
Red Hat distribution CD, and occupies ~1.5 gigs in fBSD's one.  Add ports
(actuall, sources one), and it won't fit even on 4-CD set.  Please,
explain to me, what does this all mean?  Why so many used space?  Why no
symlink to ports (sources) directory from "distro root"?  What is the
purpose of packages (precompiled)?  Is it the same as ports?  If so, why
there are 2 places (ports/distfiles and ports/i386/packages-3.3-release)? 
And can I tell installator to copy all ports somewhere, not only skeleton
directory (and, am I right thinking that skeleton is that ~7Mb archive in
ports dir of "distro root"?)?  If my questions seems to be obscure (or
even lame :-), just explain what you think I need to know about how all
this works.  Note that English in not my native language, so I beg your
pardon for any mistakes and unclear points ;-)

______
Fourth.  At some point during installion, installator told me that
es told me that it
can't fetch file 'local/local.inf'.  Well, there is no such file, indeed.
Neither on ftp1.ru.FreeBSD.org, nor on ftp.freebsd.org.  What is this
about?

_____
Fifth.  It's about mouse.  Why only on ttyv0?  How to turn off stupid
"graphical" cursor?  Can I cut and paste, like in Linux?

_____
Sixth.  How to make standard "blinking _" cursor (messing with rc.confs
didn't help)?


OK.  That's it for now.  Any help will be really appreciated.  Thanks in
advance.  But, please, reply direcly to me, and cc to mailinglist if you
wish, just in case something goes wrong.

Yours,

./danfe





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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:27:18 +0100, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

> Got troubles installing port of wterm.Output is presented in attached
> file

What's odd is that you told us you're having trouble installing wterm,
but you sent us build output failure for gedit.  How'd gedit enter the
mix?  It doesn't appear to be a dependancy.

From your other recent messages, it looks like you recently updated or
tried to update your ports tree.  The Gtk (Gnome) related stuff has
notorious versioning troubles.  Often you need to update your gtk base
ports before you can update the ports which depend on them. :-(

Ciao,
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:06:01 +0200, owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG wrote:

> At the moment the box is running cucipop on port 110 on its primary
> IP. What we want to do is assign the box another IP and map cucipop to
> port 80 on that IP.
[...]
> Secondly - how on earth do I do this!!!!

This sounds like exactly what natd(8) is designed for.  I haven't used
it myself, but a quick scan of the manpage turned up a useful-looking
option, -redirect_port .

Check it out. :-)

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:45:15 +1300, "Dan Langille" wrote:

> I'm trying to start cvsupd on a box.
> 
> # su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -C 8 -l daemon -s 
> /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client"
> Cannot create "daemon": Permission denied
> 
> It will start with this command:
> 
> # su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -s 

Perhaps I'm stating the obvious here, but are you sure that user cvsup
has write permissions on the directory from which you run the first form
of the command?  If a file ``daemon'' exists in that directory, are you
sure that user cvsup has write permission on that file?

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:09:12 +0800, "Francis A. Vidal" wrote:

> can you point me to a program so that users can change their passwords
> over the web? thanks!

If nobody else comes up with the exact answer you're looking for, I have
a suggestion.

Have a look at webmin in the ports tree.  It doesn't seem to be geared
toward use by users, but their edit_user.cgi is probably a good start if
you know a bit of perl.

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This is the point where I generally give up and conclude that
these U.S. Robotics toys, and other consumer modems intended
primarily to dial out, are just not going to work.  The terminology
gets confusing--I'm not sure what's set in gettytab, what's set
by ppp or pppd, what's set by modem defaults, what comes from
stty or how to preserve those settings.  With the settings below,
I just get screen garbage.  So, back to 9600 if I want to use it
at all.  :(

	Annelise



On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:

> Your comment about B0 rang a bell because that is where it chooses ITU
> or US answering tones. B1 is US tones. I was really thinking of &H1
> and &R2 instead of &F1.
> 
> I don't know about your stty command because I was always on the PC
> end when we tested the lines. With user-ppp, I set the line to 115.2
> kb and tell it to dial. No one dials into this system.
> 
> Your initialization on the one that is answering at 9600 needs to be
> pre-established at 38.4 kb or 57.6 kb. If the link between the
> computer and the modem is established at 9600 the modem will not
> select a higher baud rate.
> 
> Kent
> 
> Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > 
> > > Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This interests me quite a lot, because I have external 56K Sportster
> > > > > > Robotics modems at home and at the office (on a regular phone
> > > > > > line); I can dial out just fine and make connections, but I can't
> > > > > > get the modem at the office to answer and establish a connection
> > > > > > at better than 9600.  This is v.90; maybe I should turn that off?
> > > > >
> > > > > The v.90 should be a choice. For example, I occasionally get 28.8kb
> > > > > and I know I have a bad line but the handshaking also has a different
> > > > > tone and I was told that was leaving v.90.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your two user modems should not be able to connect are more than 33.6
> > > > > because each considers the other an upload and settle for 33.6 kb max.
> > > > > The modems that support 53kb are different from the ones a user can
> > > > > purchase.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have any idea why they wouldn't connect at 33.6kb other than a
> > > > > mismatch or line quality between them. That is terrible and I would
> > > > > expect a configuration problem. They are supposed to argue until they
> > > > > come up with something they both support. In your case, it is 9.6 kb
> > > > >
> > > > > You can set them up to tell what the connection is and I would log
> > > > > that and see if it provides any clues.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kent
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that unless I have std.9600 in /etc/ttys, I can't
> > > > connect at all; I either get continual garbage on the screen or a
> > > > login that responds but doesn't allow the ppp (or pppd) connection
> > > > to come up.  These failure don't log.  For a while I had some sort
> > > > of a rotary thing set up in gettytab, but this doesn't work either.
> > >
> > > Have you tried locking the DTE rate and let the modem buffer the
> > > connection. I use &F1 and &B1. That locks the serial rate between the
> > > computer and the modem and specifies Hardware Flow control. You fix
> > > the serial port at some rate such a 57.6kb or 115.2kb and let the
> > > modem connect at what ever speed it wants to. You have to use Hardware
> > > flow control (RTS/CTS) to block when one of the pieces is getting
> > > ahead of the other.
> > >
> > > Kent
> > 
> > Yes, I have a definition in gettytab that looks like this:
> > 
> > # AA's VHS modem
> > vm|VH300|VHS at 300,8-bit:\
> >         :nx=VH57600:tc=std.300:
> > vn|VH1200|VHS at 1200,8-bit:\
> >         :nx=VH300:tc=std.1200:
> > vo|VH2400|VHS at 2400,8-bit:\
> >         :nx=VH1200:tc=std.2400:
> > vp|VH9600|VHS at 9600,8-bit:\
> >         :nx=VH2400:tc=std.9600:
> > vq|VH14400|VHS at 14400,8-bit:\
> >         :nx=VH9600:tc=std.14400:
> > vs|VH19200|VHS at 19200,8-bit:\
> >         :nx=VH14400:tc=std.19200:
> > vt|VH28800|VHS at 28800,8-bit:\
> >         :nx=VH19200:tc=std.28800:
> > vu|VH38400|VHS at 38400,8-bit:\
> >         :nx=VH28800:tc=std.38400:
> > vv|VH57600|VHS at 57600,8-bit:\
> >         :nx=VH38400:tc=std.57600:
> > 
> > that I use with VH38400 in ttys instead of std.9600, in the ttyd0 entry:
> > 
> > ttyd0   "/usr/libexec/getty VH38400"    dialup  on secure
> > 
> > The modem output looks like this: (Maybe it needs to be B1 in the
> > first line?)
> > 
> > Script started on Wed Nov 17 23:20:10 1999
> > Connected.
> > ATATE1Q0
> > OK
> > ATI4
> > U.S. Robotics 56K FAX EXT Settings...
> > 
> >    B0  E1  F1  M1  Q0  V1  X4  Y0
> >    BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8
> >    DIAL=TONE    ON HOOK   CID=0
> > 
> >    &A3  &B1  &C1  &D2  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1
> >    &M4  &N0  &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1
> > 
> >    S00=001  S01=000  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002
> >    S07=060  S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000
> >    S15=000  S16=000  S18=000  S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019
> >    S25=005  S27=000  S28=008  S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002
> >    S33=000  S34=000  S35=000  S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001
> >    S41=000  S42=000
> > 
> >    LAST DIALED #: T
> > 
> > OK
> > ATI5
> > U.S. Robotics 56K FAX EXT NVRAM Settings...
> > 
> >  Template Y0
> > 
> >    DIAL=TONE   B0  F1  M1  X4
> >    BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8
> > 
> >    &A3  &B1  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1  &M4  &N0
> >    &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1
> > 
> >    S00=001  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002  S07=060
> >    S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000  S15=000
> >    S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019  S25=005  S27=000  S28=008
> >    S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002  S33=000  S34=000  S35=000
> >    S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001  S41=000  S42=000
> > 
> > 
> > Strike a key when ready . . .
> > 
> >  Template Y1
> > 
> >    DIAL=TONE   B0  F1  M1  X4
> >    BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8
> > 
> >    &A3  &B1  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1  &M4  &N0
> >    &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1
> > 
> >    S00=001  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002  S07=060
> >    S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000  S15=000
> >    S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019  S25=005  S27=000  S28=008
> >    S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002  S33=000  S34=000  S35=000
> >    S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001  S41=000  S42=000
> > 
> > OK
> > ATE0Q1&W1W0
> > Script done on Wed Nov 17 23:26:37 1999
> > 
> > I've struggled a lot with this without success, so I appreciate
> > your efforts to help.  I hope I'm doing something wrong, however
> > stupid.  I even sent a modem back to U.S. Robotics for "repair."
> > 
> > The output of stty -a -f /dev/ttyd0 shows it (I'm not sure if it's
> > the rate at which it is connecting to the computer or the line)
> > as:
> > 
> > speed 9600 baud; 0 rows; 0 columns;
> > lflags: -icanon -isig -iexten -echo -echoe -echok -echoke -echonl
> >         -echoctl -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho -pendin
> >         -nokerninfo -extproc
> > iflags: -istrip -icrnl -inlcr -igncr -ixon -ixoff -ixany -imaxbel -ignbrk
> >         -brkint -inpck -ignpar -parmrk
> > oflags: -opost -onlcr -oxtabs
> > cflags: cread cs8 -parenb -parodd hupcl -clocal -cstopb -crtscts -dsrflow
> >         -dtrflow -mdmbuf
> > cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = <undef>;
> >         eol2 = <undef>; erase = ^?; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V;
> >         min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ^T;
> >         stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W;
> > 
> > Annelise
> > 
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> 
> -- 
> Kent Stewart
> Richland, WA
> 
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:24:32 +0600, "Alexey N. Dokuchaev" wrote:

> device      scyl   ecyl   size    type   comments
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> /dev/hda1   63     ...    20M     6      (>=32M DOS FAT)
> /dev/hda2   ...    ...    64M     6      (>=32M DOS FAT)
> /dev/hda3   ...    ...    ~2G     165    (big FreeBSD slice)
> /dev/hda4   ...    638    ...     5      (EXTENDED)

[...]

> First, strangely enough, fbsd's install-time fdisk didn't show my logical
> drives (only extended entry).  Why not?

The most popular answer to this questions is that extended partitions
are a weird MS-DOS misfeature and aren't useable given the framework
within which FreeBSD makes use of partitions.

>   |     Max one `fat' allowed as child of `whole'      |

[...]

> What does this suppose to mean?!  I have _no_ idea whatsoever, even
> any sort of lame guess.  Just nothing.  Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.

I'll offer you my own lame guess -- the software is warning you that
MS-DOS will not like your partitioning scheme, because MS-DOS can only
understand a single FAT filesystem in a single "Primary" partition.

Remember that hard-drive support was added to MS-DOS as a kludge, so
their partitioning scheme was neither good nor particularly compatible
with what everyone else was doing and has done.

> FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE to my Linux box, I 'wget -r -b -t 0 -nr 'ed it.
> Everything was fine, except that 'packages'-linked directory/All
> contained *huge* amouunt of software.  When examined, it seemed to me
> that it is only binaries + some config stuff, but no sources.  But the
> path was ../../../ports/i386/packages-3.3-release.

These are pre-compiled ready-to-install packages.  For the actual source
tarballs for the various packages, you'd look for distfiles instead of
packages.

And yes, the packages are built by our ports collection.  You can read
more about the ports collection at:

	http://www.freebsd.org/ports/

> Fourth.  At some point during installion, installator told me that
> es told me that it can't fetch file 'local/local.inf'.  Well, there
> is no such file, indeed.  Neither on ftp1.ru.FreeBSD.org, nor on
> ftp.freebsd.org.  What is this about?

I think you've misreported the error message.  In short, don't worry
about it. :-)

> Fifth.  It's about mouse.  Why only on ttyv0?  How to turn off stupid
> "graphical" cursor?  Can I cut and paste, like in Linux?

The default is to enable the mouse on ttyv0 only, for some obscure
reason.  If you want it on all the virtual terminals, you can add this
line to /etc/rc.conf:

	allscreens_flags="-m on"

The value of the allscreens_flags variable is passed to vidcontrol(1)
for each virtual terminal at boot time. You can read the vidcontrol(1)
manual page for more detail.

Note that there are many tweakable boot-time options available.  Use
/etc/defaults/rc.conf as a reference but do not edit that file.  Use
/etc/rc.conf to override the defaults instead.

Oh, and it's the graphical cursor or bust, as far as I know. :-)

> Sixth.  How to make standard "blinking _" cursor (messing with rc.confs
> didn't help)?

Ha!  Another question involving vidcontrol(1).  While you're checking
out the vidcontrol(1) manual page, the -c option will be of interest to
you.

Enjoy your FreeBSD experience.  You should be complemented on the
quality of your questions, by the way. :-)

Cuiao,
Sheldon.


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Subject: Re: Is there correct way for program to read from itself? 
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 06:58:15 +0300, "Oleg V. Volkov" wrote:

> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?

Not the way I think you mean it, no.  You can, however, use char[]
buffers to store in your program whatever information you need to use
later.

Ciao,
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:44:53 +0100, Gabor Zahemszky wrote:

> In this thread, somebody said: there isn't ksh93 under FreeBSD.

Are you sure?  Are you aware of significant deviations from ksh93 in
ports/shells/pdksh?

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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:26:37 PST, "Darkhalf" wrote:

> I've installed FreeBSD 3.3 quite a few times and this was my first that was
> not %100 successful. Upon trying to install the local additions collection
> under distributions it comes back with:

Ignore that.  Unless you've created your own local distribution, you can
ignore it.

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 22:27:18 +0100, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> 
> > Got troubles installing port of wterm.Output is presented in attached
> > file
> 
> What's odd is that you told us you're having trouble installing wterm,
> but you sent us build output failure for gedit.  How'd gedit enter the
> mix?  It doesn't appear to be a dependancy.
  Had I sent gedit output ehhhhe yesterday night was rather pleasant time
  then :))
  Well you know now that I had problems with gedit also
  I will send then the proper output today evening as soon as I reach my
  home machine



> >From your other recent messages, it looks like you recently updated or
> tried to update your ports tree.  The Gtk (Gnome) related stuff has
> notorious versioning troubles.  Often you need to update your gtk base
> ports before you can update the ports which depend on them. :-(
> 
> Ciao,
> Sheldon.
> 



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On 18 Nov 99, at 11:35, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:45:15 +1300, "Dan Langille" wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to start cvsupd on a box.
> > 
> > # su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -C 8 -l daemon -s 
> > /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client"
> > Cannot create "daemon": Permission denied
> > 
> > It will start with this command:
> > 
> > # su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -s 
> 
> Perhaps I'm stating the obvious here, but are you sure that user cvsup
> has write permissions on the directory from which you run the first form
> of the command?

Good point:

root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # ls -ld .
drwxrwxr-x  4 root  cvsup  512 Nov 18 17:43 .
[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -C 8 -l daemon -s  /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client"
Listen failed: Port in use
[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # ps -auwx | grep cvsupd
root   26733  3.0  1.7   872  500  p3  D+   11:07PM   0:00.06 grep cvsupd
root   26677  0.0  1.6  1436  464  ??  Is   10:41PM   0:00.09 /usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -C 8 -l @daemon -s sup.client
[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # kill -quit 26677
[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # 

***
*** runtime error:
***    aborted
***    pc = 0x9b775
***


[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -C 8 -l daemon -s  /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client"
[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # Cannot become a daemon: Permission denied

[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # chown cvsup .
[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # ls -ld .
drwxrwxr-x  4 cvsup  cvsup  512 Nov 18 23:07 .
[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -C 8 -l daemon -s  /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client"
[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # Cannot become a daemon: Permission denied

[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # 


>  If a file ``daemon'' exists in that directory, are you
> sure that user cvsup has write permission on that file?

no such file in that directory.
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Alexey N. Dokuchaev wrote:

> 
> Hello All!
> 
> I've been using Red Hat Linux for quite a long time, but recently decided
> to try FreeBSD, since (as I understood) it is much more stable,
> intelligently-written and just different from Linux.
> 
> I've install it quite easily, however, there are several places which are
> still not quite clear to me.  Please note that I've spent some time
> searching in previously submitted questions, but wasn't able to find
> *exact* answers to my questions.  I hope I won't be annoying ;-)
> 
> 1).  During installation, when fdisking/labeling my (LBA-mode in BIOS with
> 638/128/63 CHS) disk (approx view with linux's fdisk):
> 
> device      scyl   ecyl   size    type   comments
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> /dev/hda1   63     ...    20M     6      (>=32M DOS FAT)
> /dev/hda2   ...    ...    64M     6      (>=32M DOS FAT)
> /dev/hda3   ...    ...    ~2G     165    (big FreeBSD slice)
> /dev/hda4   ...    638    ...     5      (EXTENDED)
> /dev/hda5   ...    ...    ~900M   7      (NTFS)
> /dev/hda8   ...    ...    64M	  0x82   (linux swap in case I need it)
> /dev/hda7   ...    638    64M     6      (>=32M FAT)
> 
> _____
> First, strangely enough, fbsd's install-time fdisk didn't show my logical
> drives (only extended entry).  Why not?  If I am able to set mount points
> to my primary DOS/FAT partitions, than why I can't see my, say, /dev/hda7 
> to mount it somewhere too?  Or am I missing anything?  How do I use
> mount_msdos to mount logical disks?
> 
> ______
> Second, when defining /, /usr, /tmp, /home, setting mount points for them,
> and just before (or after -- can't remember exactly, and I don't want to
> repeat installation procedure all over again) dialog box about preferred
> boot manager (3 choises), I get this strange warning box:
> 
>   +--------------------[Warning!]----------------------+
>   |                                                    |
>   |     Max one `fat' allowed as child of `whole'      |
>   |                                                    |
>   +----------------------------------------------------+
> 
> What does this suppose to mean?!  I have _no_ idea whatsoever, even any
> sort of lame guess.  Just nothing.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
I *think* this means that you have two or more primary partitions on
the drive, which is typical of a dual-boot system.  I ignore this.

> _____
> Third, it's about distribution itself.  When I decided to download
> FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE to my Linux box, I 'wget -r -b -t 0 -nr 'ed it.  
> Everything was fine, except that 'packages'-linked directory/All contained
> *huge* amouunt of software.  When examined, it seemed to me that it is
> only binaries + some config stuff, but no sources.  But the path was
> ../../../ports/i386/packages-3.3-release. Is this a port collection or
> what?  If so, why no sources, or I didn't get something again?  Moreover,
> there is ports/distfiles, seemed to be stuffed this another bunch of
> tarballs.  If _this_ is the source port colection, what the purpose of
> having packages link in FreeBSD "distribution root"?  Well, OK,
> installator seems to be fetching binaries from packages, without compiling
> them (obviously) -- like when I select GNOME/Enlightement as my preferred
> window manager, but still, I can't understand how all this fits on single
> Red Hat distribution CD, and occupies ~1.5 gigs in fBSD's one.  Add ports
> (actuall, sources one), and it won't fit even on 4-CD set.  Please,
> explain to me, what does this all mean?  Why so many used space?  Why no
> symlink to ports (sources) directory from "distro root"?  What is the
> purpose of packages (precompiled)?  Is it the same as ports?  If so, why
> there are 2 places (ports/distfiles and ports/i386/packages-3.3-release)? 
> And can I tell installator to copy all ports somewhere, not only skeleton
> directory (and, am I right thinking that skeleton is that ~7Mb archive in
> ports dir of "distro root"?)?  If my questions seems to be obscure (or
> even lame :-), just explain what you think I need to know about how all
> this works.  Note that English in not my native language, so I beg your
> pardon for any mistakes and unclear points ;-)

It is easier to forget about linux and analogies to it at this point and
just assume that FreeBSD is organized differently.

There are two ways to install software: ports and packages.  From
the installation menus you can install the ports framework--the skeleton--
but not specific ports.  This framework, /usr/ports with its sub-
directories, can later be used to fetch sources, extract them, patch
them, configure them, build them, and install them, all with the
command "make install."  It handles dependencies and will also get
anything else the port needs to work.  Instead of "make install", you
can do make fetch, make extract, make patch, and then alter the 
configuration to suit your own preferences, and proceed; sometimes
you can edit the Makefile (the FreeBSD Makefile in the port's 
directory) to include or exclude certain features.  You can then
proceed with make configure, make build, and make install.

Packages are binaries plus documentation and configuration files that
have actually been built from ports; no source code.  They can be
installed from sysinstall, either when doing the original install or
later.  The pkg_add command extracts the tar ball and puts everything
in the right place.

For both ports and packages, installation is recorded in /var/db/pkg.

When you use wget to get everything, you're getting, for packages, all
the pre-compiled binaries for 2,500+ software programs--sometimes
multiple versions of the same thing, or a dozen different editors,
a slew of window managers, a lot of the same stuff in multiple foreign
languages, and so forth.  There is definitely a great deal of stuff 
here you don't want.
> 
> ______
> Fourth.  At some point during installion, installator told me that
> es told me that it
> can't fetch file 'local/local.inf'.  Well, there is no such file, indeed.
> Neither on ftp1.ru.FreeBSD.org, nor on ftp.freebsd.org.  What is this
> about?
> 
> _____
> Fifth.  It's about mouse.  Why only on ttyv0?  How to turn off stupid
> "graphical" cursor?  Can I cut and paste, like in Linux?

This is explained in the FAQ.  It's not difficult to set it up for
all virtual terminals.
> 
> _____
> Sixth.  How to make standard "blinking _" cursor (messing with rc.confs
> didn't help)?

man vidcontrol
> 
> 
> OK.  That's it for now.  Any help will be really appreciated.  Thanks in
> advance.  But, please, reply direcly to me, and cc to mailinglist if you
> wish, just in case something goes wrong.
> 
> Yours,
> 
> ./danfe
> 
Annelise




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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:09:40 +1300, "Dan Langille" wrote:

> [root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e 
-C 8 -l daemon -s  /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client"
> [root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # Cannot become a daemon: Permission denied

Is sup.client a file or a directory?  The manpage makes it sound like it
should be a directory.  The permissions issue applies there too if it is
a directory.  If it's a file, make sure that's a legal argument to the
-s option.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Day kind!
At me such problem, if it is possible I ask to answer.
There is digi multiport, has hung up normally, but when connect on the=20
modem that =E1=F4 of a command do not give =EF=EB, and ATI4 generally =
gives a=20
terrible picture, it is possible only to work when come on speed of 300=20
bauds and somehow on 600.
Like has read that 3.2 does not work with digi, has tried has put 3.3 =
but=20
absolutely not better.
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yeah i'm aware of this flag, i'm no moron ;)
but i want to run it on TWO ports on TWO ips!

so for example

192.168.62.1:110
192.168.62.2:80

Both instances pointing to the same mail folders

Any other suggestions?

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On 18 Nov 99, at 12:06, owner-freebsd-questions@FreeB wrote:

> At the moment the box is running cucipop on port 110 on its primary IP.
What
> we want to do is assign the box another IP and map cucipop to port 80 on
> that IP.

cucipop will run on port 80.  see man cucipop:

      -p port
            Bind to a different port.




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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:24:24 +0200, owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG wrote:

> yeah i'm aware of this flag, i'm no moron ;)
> but i want to run it on TWO ports on TWO ips!
> 
> so for example
> 
> 192.168.62.1:110
> 192.168.62.2:80
> 
> Both instances pointing to the same mail folders

Then I've got an answer to your first question, which was "Any possible
problems with this?" :-)

You'll need to make sure that running two cucipop listening deamons
which both work with the same mail folders doesn't present any file
inconsistency issues.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Ta for the advice - maybe you can make a little more sense of this for me as
my networking skills are not great, I'm more of a developer than a
networker.

natd -alias_address 192.168.62.110 -redirect_port tcp 192.168.62.110:80
192.168.62.110:110

I tried that but that didn't seem to work. The --help says :

-redirect_port        tcp|udp local_addr:local_port_range
[public_addr:]public_port_range [remote_addr[:remote_port_range]]
      redirect a port (or ports) for incoming traffic

Maybe there are additional options I need to specify.



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Subject: Re: Portmapping with Cucipop (or some solution)




On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:06:01 +0200, owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
wrote:

> At the moment the box is running cucipop on port 110 on its primary
> IP. What we want to do is assign the box another IP and map cucipop to
> port 80 on that IP.
[...]
> Secondly - how on earth do I do this!!!!

This sounds like exactly what natd(8) is designed for.  I haven't used
it myself, but a quick scan of the manpage turned up a useful-looking
option, -redirect_port .

Check it out. :-)

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:44:04 +0200, 

> natd -alias_address 192.168.62.110 -redirect_port tcp 192.168.62.110:80
> 192.168.62.110:110

I don't get it.  I thought you said in your first reply to my message
that you already know about this option and that it doesn't do what you
want.  What's up?

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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We had a problem like this at the office and sorted it out with an
interesting solution. The main problem is you need to be root to do this,
and apache refuses to run as root unless you fix it a little - and thats NOT
recommended.

So what we did is we made a php3 script which is the ACTION of our form.
What we do is send a mail to root with cunning hidden headers and some pgp
encryption of the username and new password. Then we have a procmail filter
which looks for the hidden header, takes the encryption passes it through a
php binary which decrypts the pgp and then executes something like this :

#$1 = username
#$2 = newpassword

/usr/sbin/pw usermod $1 -h 0 <<EOF
$2
EOF

Weird solution - but it works!

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:09:12 +0800, "Francis A. Vidal" wrote:

> can you point me to a program so that users can change their passwords
> over the web? thanks!

If nobody else comes up with the exact answer you're looking for, I have
a suggestion.

Have a look at webmin in the ports tree.  It doesn't seem to be geared
toward use by users, but their edit_user.cgi is probably a good start if
you know a bit of perl.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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thanks.

On 18 Nov 99, at 12:23, Sheldon Hearn wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:09:40 +1300, "Dan Langille" wrote:
> 
> > [root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e 
> -C 8 -l daemon -s  /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client"
> > [root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # Cannot become a daemon: Permission denied
> 
> Is sup.client a file or a directory?  The manpage makes it sound like it
> should be a directory.  The permissions issue applies there too if it is
> a directory.  If it's a file, make sure that's a legal argument to the
> -s option.

It is a directory:

drwxrwxr-x  4 root   cvsup   512 Nov 18 19:16 sup.client

# chown cvsup sup.client
# su -m cvsup -c "/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -C 8 -l daemon -s  
/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client"
[root@fred:/usr/local/etc/cvsup] # Cannot become a daemon: 
Permission denied

Hmmm, thats not it.  It's not something to do with the cvsup user is it?

cvsup:*:1001:1001::0:0:CVSup Daemon:/nonexistent:/nonexistent

Nope, the user is there.

I'm lost.
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Hello,

There is a difficult way to have a DES password on a MD5 system.

1. cvsup the des code to your src distribution. After this, you will have
src/secure and src/crypto directories. 
2. Enter to src/secure directory and do: make cleandir obj depend all
 Never do: make install !
3. do make install in src/secure/lib/libdes, libcipher directories  and
copy manually the src/lib/libcrypt/obj/libdescrypt* to /usr/lib.

Now you have the "SDK" to compile des password generator programs.

4. Choose a program to encrypt password. I use htpasswd from the apache
source code. (apache1.3.9/src/support) In the Makefile you have to change
the -lcrypt library statemenst to -ldescrypt .

5. You can use htpasswd to generate des passwords

6. If you like your MD5 passwords, you must rename the secure and crypto
directories to another name ( tst.secure ,tst.crypto) or use the
-DNOSECURE -DNOCRYPT flags if you do make world... Other way all new
passwords will be DES in /etc/passwd

Good luck,
	Geza

On 17 Nov 1999, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

> "Pete Perreault" <pperreault@above.net> writes:
> 
> > It appears that the encrypted passwords within master.passwd file use the
> > MD5 algorithm.  Is there a way to change this to DES?  Alternatively, is
> > there a way to create DES encrypted passwords?
> 
> Install DES.  Sysinstall can do it for you.  
> 
> If you have problems after that, check the handbook for more
> information.
> 
> Be well.
> 
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erm, nope.
i've only replied to you once on this - the other reply was the the first
person who answered who only discussed the -p setting of cucipop.

this natd looks like the way to go, but there must be something wrong with
my syntax.

mike

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:44:04 +0200,

> natd -alias_address 192.168.62.110 -redirect_port tcp 192.168.62.110:80
> 192.168.62.110:110

I don't get it.  I thought you said in your first reply to my message
that you already know about this option and that it doesn't do what you
want.  What's up?

Ciao,
Sheldon.




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> > In this thread, somebody said: there isn't ksh93 under FreeBSD.               
> Are you sure?  Are you aware of significant deviations from ksh93 in
> ports/shells/pdksh?

Well.  Search my name in pdksh's ChangeLog, so believe me:
pdksh is a very good ksh88 clone, and the ksh93 is another shell, with
so many new features.
By, Gabor

ZGabor at CoDe dot HU


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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Nov 18  3:37:45 1999
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Well, Jay, i gave the bootinst.exe program a shot, but it didn't work. 
I ran it, rebooted to the CDROM, installed FreeBSD, restarted, but it
just went straight into Win98.

And to clarify what my problem, (sorry that i wasn't being clear enough
John), I cannot seem to get my computer to give me the option of running
Windows 98, or FreeBSD when my system boots up.  In other words, i can't
get FreeBSD's boot manager to work, and now the bootinst.exe is proven
to not work.  

To be really specific with what i want to do:  during the installation
of FreeBSD, i want to be able to install FreeBSD to my second hard drive
(D:) and then i want to be able to install a boot manager in the boot
sector of my first drive (C:).  Reverse order would work too, and i'm
not totally sure if i'd need to install the boot manager to the boot
sectors of both hard drives, but i'd just like to be able to run FreeBSD
after i install it.  

Hopefully that was more direct! ;)

Perhaps there's something i'm reading wrong somewhere, but this problem
is growing into something mountainous.  

Thanks for any further help that anyone could offer me,


will


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The socketpair function of the standard Perl built with my 4.0-CURRENT system
always fails. The snippet below dies with, "Protocol not supported," leading
one to think perhaps the wrong constants were used, but they work fine in C,
and I do believe Socket.pm merely imports what's in sys/socket.h. Can anyone
enlighten me here if this is a 4.0-CURRENT configuration issue or not?

use Socket;

unless( socketpair ONE, TWO, AF_LOCAL, SOCK_STREAM, 0 )
{
	die "socketpair: $!\n";
}

-- 
James Bailie  

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From: Gunnar Flygt <gunnar@pluto.sr.se>
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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 09:22:59AM +0200, Hasan Guclu wrote:
> Dear FreeBSD team,
> 
> First of all thank you for such a stable system.
> My problem is related to my sound card. I could'nt make it work with my
> FreeBSD system 2.3.

You mean 3.2, or? There never was 2.3, it ended at 2.2.8

> My sound card is Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI. I checked its properties
> from the Windows 95 and saw the followings.
> 
> Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI  : irq 10 port B800-B83F
> Legacy Device : port 0240-024F
>                          DMA 01
>                          DMA 07
>                          port 0330-033F
>                          port 0388-038B
> 
> I also run sbcfg program of creative and got these results.
> 
> Sound Blaster 16 Emulation:
> port 240, irq 7,  8 bit dma 1 , 16 bit dma 7
> 
> MPU:
> port 330 , irq 7
> 
> AdLib:
> port 388
> 
> And now what did i write to my kernel file?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Hasan Guclu
> Middle East Technical University
> Department of Physics
> Ankara/Turkey
> 
> 
> 
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Hi

I've succesfully installed StarOffice 5.1 on my FreeBSD 3.2 system but
my problem is when acutally runnitng the program.

It's integrated wih my KDE desktop byt when I start the program it goes in the
setup.

Help please!

Thankx

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  I wonder what would be the right way to install ISO-8859-2
(Latin 2) fonts on FreeBSD. I know I can do that by hand (in fact,
I'm using ISO-8859-2 RPMs from the Red Hat Linux distribution),
but shouldn't there be some port with these fonts? There
are lot of FreeBSD users in central and east Europe who
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 06:50:47 EST, James Bailie wrote:

> use Socket;
> 
> unless( socketpair ONE, TWO, AF_LOCAL, SOCK_STREAM, 0 )
> {
> 	die "socketpair: $!\n";
> }

I get this with perl -w:

Argument "AF_LOCAL" isn't numeric in sockpair at foo.pl line 5.
socketpair: Protocol not supported

Always use -w when you're having problems. :-)

Now take a look at the perlipc manpage and you'll see that it suggests
the use of AF_UNIX instead of AF_LOCAL.

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:30:47 +1030, Marc Dodsworth wrote:

> It's integrated wih my KDE desktop byt when I start the program it
> goes in the setup.

Have a look at this installation tutorial, which addresses the issue of
the infinite setup:

	http://www.stat.duke.edu/~sto/StarOffice51a/install.html

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Marc,

When you installed StarOffice, what it does is install the essential
components for multi-user StafOffice on your box. When you run StarOffice
for the first time as a different user - you have to go through the setup
procedure again, but this time you don't have to insert the cd, it just
copies some stuff around your box and sets up your menus.

So fear not! Just proceed with the install.

Its a bit silly yes I know.

Mike

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Hi

I've succesfully installed StarOffice 5.1 on my FreeBSD 3.2 system but
my problem is when acutally runnitng the program.

It's integrated wih my KDE desktop byt when I start the program it goes in
the
setup.

Help please!

Thankx

Marc


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Hello,

Without doing anything intentionally, somehow now all users (with the
exception of root) cannot login to my 3.1-RELEASE box. All users
are given the following message:

NO LOGINS: System going down at 17:00

I have no idea how this happened, or how I can stop it. If anyone can
help me, that would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au> writes:

> alias rm "cp /dev/zero \!1; rm \!1"
> 
> or something like that

"rm -P" should do even better.  


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Gabor Zahemszky wrote:

>Well.  Search my name in pdksh's ChangeLog, so believe me:
>pdksh is a very good ksh88 clone, and the ksh93 is another shell, with
>so many new features.

True, however since on most Unix systems that ship with ksh it is still
ksh88 (probably with vendor-specific bu^W fixes) it isn't that bad that
the pdksh for freebsd is only a near-clone of ksh88...

Btw... can we hope for BSDi ELF binary execution in the near future?

mkb


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Hello,

No.

Solid work is underway on kernel threads.  Give it a few months.

The folks up in -arch have been hammering out the details of the
implementation, how it should work, and all that fun "specification"
stuff.  The discussion has pretty much died down with a consensus.
All that's left now is a "simple matter of programming" which, I
believe, is underway.  Check the -arch archives for the details.

==ml

> 
> Hi.  This is my yearly query to see whether FreeBSD has a kernel threads
> package yet.
> 
> I'm not on any of the mailing lists, so I'd appreciate it if someone could
> reply directly to me.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Pete
> 
> 
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Well, more and more commercial Unices has ksh93 in it.  First, it's in
SCO's UnixWare.  And it's in every UNIX with CDE, under the name dtksh
(it's a ksh93 with some hack to write X-programs with it).
And now, it's in FreeBSD as well.

Bye, ZGabor at CoDe dot HU


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mojahed@citechco.net (Mojahedul Hoque Abul Hasanat) writes:

> What is the command to show physical memory usage?  I used
> vmstat,  but its avm and fre fields are not what I want.  I want
> an equivalent to Linux's "free" -- if possible.

This has been asked several times in the last week or so; I have no
idea why this is popping up all of a sudden.  The answer is no, it's
not possible.  FreeBSD's virtual memory system tries to keep nearly
all of the memory in use, all of the time.

Try the memory-use fields of top(1); that's the closest thing to what
you want.

[If former Linux users really want this so badly, maybe we should link
FreeBSD's "free" to "top" or something like that.  The part that
annoys me is that while "free" memory -- in the Linux command's sense
-- is an ambiguous concept on FreeBSD, it isn't *really* that clear on
Linux either.]

Be well.


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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 08:46:28AM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
> IT seems that you or someone ran the shutdown command. Just run the
> shutdown command again to shutdown and reboot the system. That should
> clear up the problem.

Hmmm... I have tried that but it does not seem to fix it. I have removed
the /var/run/nologin file (it contains the shutdown message) and that
seems to work until I do a reboot, then it mysteriously gets re-created
again. Any other ideas?

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Nov 18  6:20:32 1999
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Was looking at the "rm" manpage, noticed something that had escaped 
my attention:  the -W option.

     -W          Attempt to undelete the named files.  Currently, this option
                 can only be used to recover files covered by whiteouts.

WHITEOUTS???  What is this?  Never heard of it before and can't
find any other refs (doesn't mean there aren't any, of course).
After the "pencil mark on the card to enable something" in the
ep(4) page, I'm a little, umm, *reluctant* to dismiss this as
a joke :-).  3.3-STABLE, last built about a week ago.

Thanks!

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From: Jonathon McKitrick <jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
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I've seen a lot about this lately, and I've heard it said that 'free
memory is wasted memory'.

If this is the case, does this mean FreeBSD keeps everything possible in
memory and then swaps out to VM when it needs more?  How are unnecessary
page faults and disk accesses avoided with this method?

I am a bit of a neophyte, but I am right in the middle of an 'Intro to
Operating Systems' course, and we just finished memory mgmt and virtual
memory.


On 18 Nov 1999, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

>mojahed@citechco.net (Mojahedul Hoque Abul Hasanat) writes:
>
>> What is the command to show physical memory usage?  I used
>> vmstat,  but its avm and fre fields are not what I want.  I want
>> an equivalent to Linux's "free" -- if possible.
>
>This has been asked several times in the last week or so; I have no
>idea why this is popping up all of a sudden.  The answer is no, it's
>not possible.  FreeBSD's virtual memory system tries to keep nearly
>all of the memory in use, all of the time.
>
>Try the memory-use fields of top(1); that's the closest thing to what
>you want.
>
>[If former Linux users really want this so badly, maybe we should link
>FreeBSD's "free" to "top" or something like that.  The part that
>annoys me is that while "free" memory -- in the Linux command's sense
>-- is an ambiguous concept on FreeBSD, it isn't *really* that clear on
>Linux either.]
>
>Be well.
>
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As everyone knows by now, I have disconnection problems with FreeBSD that
I don't have with Windows.

Does it make sense that maybe I need to somehow record the modem commands
that Windows sends to initialize?  COuld that be part of the problem?
Then i could include these in my initialization string.

I've tried both ISP's, and both kick me off at irregular intervals,
sometimes immediately after login.  (script based)

Setup: (to avoid the Ariel syndrome  ;-)
3.3 Stable
Toshiba laptop, PCMCIA modem
ISP uses script-based login on Ascend(t?) terminal servers
I have been told to disable X2 and even V90, but this seems to have no
effect.
The FAQ suggested disabling all compression... no change.
A 'log ascync' command shows one Read line that doesn't terminate with a
0x7E like the rest seem to.  This is the last data received before i get
'Carrier Lost' from ppp.

This is my biggest remaining peeve with FreeBSD.. i'd really like to iron
it out.

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well right before you kill me for the offtopic,

what is L1, L2, L3 ? 
 .... T1, T2, T3 ?

has anybody heard about SINEC L1 ??


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I am a learning system administrator for a FreeBSD based system at Bank of
America, and I am having a problem getting sudo to log to a file other than
/var/log/messages.  In the /etc/syslog.conf file, I made the following entry:

sudo.*    /var/log/sudo

I then hupped the syslogd daemon, but all sudo commands by users were still
going to /var/log/messages and not to /var/log/sudo.  I downloaded the source
code for sudo and looked through there, but C is not one of my strong language
skills.  Can anyone tell me what I need to do to redirect the sudo logging from
/var/log/massages to a separate file?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Nov 18  7:21:17 1999
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Ok Will.. makes more sense (at least to me) now :)

You actually have the same problem I had a while back.  I'm not sure about
how recent versions may of the boot managers may have changed, but when I
had windows on my primary HD and FreeBSD on my secondary HD, someone told
me that the only boot manager that would span those disks was OS/BS Beta.
Granted this was over 1.5 years ago and the other boot managers may have
changed.  Unless someone has the solution though, it's probably worth a
shot for you to try it. =)

You can get it and give it a shot from: 

ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/osbsbeta.exe

Just remember to read the read me :)

Start out by (on your windows disk) doing an fdisk /mbr to repunch to boot
record - to make it "clean" again, if you will.  Then run the os/bs
installation from a dos-reboot - *NOT* from a dos window inside of
windows... if you do that the install will never work. (ie: start -->
shutdown --> restart in MS-dos mode). 

Also, you should NOT have to put the boot manager on the boot sectors of
both HD's.  The 'puter looks at the boot sector of your boot device for the
answers to its booting questions - not to both boot sectors.   Once you get
a boot manager sucessfully installed on the boot sector of your C drive,
you should be good to go.

If you're installing a boot manager to the boot sector of the C drive and
not even seeing it come up at reboot though, something sounds kinda really odd.

>Well, Jay, i gave the bootinst.exe program a shot, but it didn't work. 
>I ran it, rebooted to the CDROM, installed FreeBSD, restarted, but it
>just went straight into Win98.
>
>And to clarify what my problem, (sorry that i wasn't being clear enough
>John), I cannot seem to get my computer to give me the option of running
>Windows 98, or FreeBSD when my system boots up.  In other words, i can't
>get FreeBSD's boot manager to work, and now the bootinst.exe is proven
>to not work.  
>
>To be really specific with what i want to do:  during the installation
>of FreeBSD, i want to be able to install FreeBSD to my second hard drive
>(D:) and then i want to be able to install a boot manager in the boot
>sector of my first drive (C:).  Reverse order would work too, and i'm
>not totally sure if i'd need to install the boot manager to the boot
>sectors of both hard drives, but i'd just like to be able to run FreeBSD
>after i install it.  
>
>Hopefully that was more direct! ;)
>
>Perhaps there's something i'm reading wrong somewhere, but this problem
>is growing into something mountainous.  
>
>Thanks for any further help that anyone could offer me,



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On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at  6:58:15 +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?

I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?

If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem? 

Greg
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On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at  0:39:06 -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> At 12:17 AM 11/18/99 , Dan Nelson wrote:
>> In the last episode (Nov 17), Mike Tancsa said:
>>> Mem: 23M Active, 99M Inact, 16M Wired, 8664K Cache, 8344K Buf, 40M Free
>>>
>>> Would it make sense to tune my kernel so that the disk cache is larger ?
>>> If so, where would I tune this.
>>
>> FreeBSD uses all available RAM as a disk cache.  The Inact, Cache, and
>> Buf amounts are all "cache" memory, just varying types.  I'm sort of
>> surprised about the 40M of Free memory, though.  Most systems hover at
>> < 5M free.  Did a memory-hogging process (Netscape, say) just exit?
>
> No.  Actually, that was taken 1hr after doing a make world and reboot.

What does it look like now?

Greg
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At 10:27 AM 11/18/99 -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
>On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at  0:39:06 -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote:
>> At 12:17 AM 11/18/99 , Dan Nelson wrote:
>>> In the last episode (Nov 17), Mike Tancsa said:
>>>> Mem: 23M Active, 99M Inact, 16M Wired, 8664K Cache, 8344K Buf, 40M Free
>>>>
>>>> Would it make sense to tune my kernel so that the disk cache is larger ?
>>>> If so, where would I tune this.
>>>
>>> FreeBSD uses all available RAM as a disk cache.  The Inact, Cache, and
>>> Buf amounts are all "cache" memory, just varying types.  I'm sort of
>>> surprised about the 40M of Free memory, though.  Most systems hover at
>>> < 5M free.  Did a memory-hogging process (Netscape, say) just exit?
>>
>> No.  Actually, that was taken 1hr after doing a make world and reboot.
>
>What does it look like now?

Much better now it seems.

Mem: 20M Active, 135M Inact, 16M Wired, 10M Cache, 8349K Buf, 5516K Free
Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free

Is the "Inact" figure actually used as disk cache then ?

	---Mike
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>At 10:27 AM 11/18/99 -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at  0:39:06 -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote:
>>> At 12:17 AM 11/18/99 , Dan Nelson wrote:
>>>> In the last episode (Nov 17), Mike Tancsa said:
>>>>> Mem: 23M Active, 99M Inact, 16M Wired, 8664K Cache, 8344K Buf, 40M Free
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it make sense to tune my kernel so that the disk cache is larger ?
>>>>> If so, where would I tune this.
>>>>
>>>> FreeBSD uses all available RAM as a disk cache.  The Inact, Cache, and
>>>> Buf amounts are all "cache" memory, just varying types.  I'm sort of
>>>> surprised about the 40M of Free memory, though.  Most systems hover at
>>>> < 5M free.  Did a memory-hogging process (Netscape, say) just exit?
>>>
>>> No.  Actually, that was taken 1hr after doing a make world and reboot.
>>
>>What does it look like now?
>
>Much better now it seems.
>
>Mem: 20M Active, 135M Inact, 16M Wired, 10M Cache, 8349K Buf, 5516K Free
>Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free
>
>Is the "Inact" figure actually used as disk cache then ?

   Yes, all of active, inact, and cache can contain cached file pages. These
are just different page queues and don't indicate the nature of the pages
on them (unfortunately - makes figuring out what's going on difficult).

-DG

David Greenman
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At 07:38 AM 11/18/99 -0800, David Greenman wrote:
>>Much better now it seems.
>>
>>Mem: 20M Active, 135M Inact, 16M Wired, 10M Cache, 8349K Buf, 5516K Free
>>Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free
>>
>>Is the "Inact" figure actually used as disk cache then ?
>
>   Yes, all of active, inact, and cache can contain cached file pages. These
>are just different page queues and don't indicate the nature of the pages
>on them (unfortunately - makes figuring out what's going on difficult).

Thanks for the clarification.  However, is it worth it to tune to OS a bit
? Alfred Perlstein has suggested some postgress specific tuning tips and
some kernel memory adjustments which I am doing, but I am still wondering
if it makes sense to somehow tune the kernel to match my particular
situation.  i.e. nothing but querries against a large database.  

Apart from that, I guess this seems like a great place to try out the Mylex
and MegaRAID controllers with a lot of RAM.... Hmmm I am very curious now
to see how adding RAM to the controller will make a difference.

At this point I am more curious than anything, because we are getting more
than adequate performance out of the system.  But for future reference, I
guess this would be handy to know.

	---Mike
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Warner Losh wrote:

> In message <Pine.OSF.3.96.991112200612.31393A-100000@mbs.valinet.com> Alan Corey writes:
> : I'm using one to write this.  Just use the ed0 driver: there's already an
> : entry in /etc/pccard.conf for the DE-660.
> 
> I stand corrected.  Never mind.
> 
> Warner

Well, maybe.  The entry in pccard.conf is there, but I neglected to
mention that I'm also using PAO3-19991011.  I couldn't get the card to
work without PAO, but I attributed that to my own inexperience.  After a
week or so of trying without it I finally loaded PAO and things went much 
more smoothly.  I thought since the entry was there it must have worked
for someone, so it was just me doing something wrong.

  Alan Corey

--------------------  relevant(?) parts of my PAO pccard.conf ---------
# PC-card sample configuration file
# Tatsumi Hosokawa <hosokawa@jp.FreeBSD.org>
#
# Removing all IRQ conflicts from this file can't be done because of some
# IRQ-selfish PC-cards.  So if you want to use some of these cards in
# your machine, you will be forced to modify their IRQ parameters from
# the following list.
#
# $Id: pccard.conf.sample,v 1.26 1999/10/02 17:36:47 toshi Exp $

# Generally available IO ports
io	0x240-0x3ff
# Generally available IRQs (DEPRECATED, USE OF THE OPTION IS DISCOURAGED)
#irq	10 11
# Unavailable IRQs
#ignirq	9
# refrain from using SoundBlaster's IRQ, by default.
ignirq 5
# it may be helful for most of notebook PCs
#ignirq 15
# Available memory slots
memory	0xd4000	96k

# D-Link DFE-650 Ethernet Card
card "D-Link" "DFE-650"
	config	default "ed0" any 0x10
	insert	logger -s D-link DFE-650 inserted
	insert	/etc/pccard_ether $device
	remove	logger -s D-link DFE-650 removed
	remove	/etc/pccard_ether_remove $device

-------- same thing from a standard 3.3-RELEASE pccard.conf.sample --
# Sample PCCARD configuration file
#
# Removing all IRQ conflicts from this file can't be done because of some
# IRQ-selfish PC-cards.  So if you want to use some of these cards in
# your machine, you will be forced to modify their IRQ parameters from
# the following list.
#
# IRQ == 0 means "allocate free IRQ from IRQ pool"
# IRQ == 16 means "do not use IRQ (e.g. PIO mode)"
#
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/pccard.conf.sample,v 1.24.2.12 1999/09/11 09:36:53
obrien Exp $

# Generally available IO ports
io	0x240-0x360
# Generally available IRQs (Built-in sound-card owners remove 5)
irq	3 5 10 11 13 15
# Available memory slots
memory	0xd4000  96k

# D-Link DE-660 NE2000 clone
card "D-Link" "DE-660"
	config 0x20 "ed0" ? 0x10
	insert /etc/pccard_ether ed0 link0 -link1
	remove /sbin/ifconfig ed0 delete




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There's an alternative boot manager in the tools directory called
osbsbeta.exe that is really easy to set up and run, it's all done in
DOS with a GUI.

I hope this works for you, I was in the same position and very close
to giving up on FreeBSD all together until I solved this little
problem.


// Joel

> Well, Jay, i gave the bootinst.exe program a shot, but it didn't
work.
> I ran it, rebooted to the CDROM, installed FreeBSD, restarted, but
it
> just went straight into Win98.
>
> And to clarify what my problem, (sorry that i wasn't being clear
enough
> John), I cannot seem to get my computer to give me the option of
running
> Windows 98, or FreeBSD when my system boots up.  In other words, i
can't
> get FreeBSD's boot manager to work, and now the bootinst.exe is
proven
> to not work.
>
> To be really specific with what i want to do:  during the
installation
> of FreeBSD, i want to be able to install FreeBSD to my second hard
drive
> (D:) and then i want to be able to install a boot manager in the
boot
> sector of my first drive (C:).  Reverse order would work too, and
i'm
> not totally sure if i'd need to install the boot manager to the boot
> sectors of both hard drives, but i'd just like to be able to run
FreeBSD
> after i install it.
>
> Hopefully that was more direct! ;)
>
> Perhaps there's something i'm reading wrong somewhere, but this
problem
> is growing into something mountainous.
>
> Thanks for any further help that anyone could offer me,
>
>
> will
>
>
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I can't access ftp.freebsd.org right now to read the docs.  What does this
boot manager offer that booteasy doesn't?

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Joel Bj=F6rk wrote:

>There's an alternative boot manager in the tools directory called
>osbsbeta.exe that is really easy to set up and run, it's all done in
>DOS with a GUI.
>
>I hope this works for you, I was in the same position and very close
>to giving up on FreeBSD all together until I solved this little
>problem.
>
>
>// Joel
>
>> Well, Jay, i gave the bootinst.exe program a shot, but it didn't
>work.
>> I ran it, rebooted to the CDROM, installed FreeBSD, restarted, but
>it
>> just went straight into Win98.
>>
>> And to clarify what my problem, (sorry that i wasn't being clear
>enough
>> John), I cannot seem to get my computer to give me the option of
>running
>> Windows 98, or FreeBSD when my system boots up.  In other words, i
>can't
>> get FreeBSD's boot manager to work, and now the bootinst.exe is
>proven
>> to not work.
>>
>> To be really specific with what i want to do:  during the
>installation
>> of FreeBSD, i want to be able to install FreeBSD to my second hard
>drive
>> (D:) and then i want to be able to install a boot manager in the
>boot
>> sector of my first drive (C:).  Reverse order would work too, and
>i'm
>> not totally sure if i'd need to install the boot manager to the boot
>> sectors of both hard drives, but i'd just like to be able to run
>FreeBSD
>> after i install it.
>>
>> Hopefully that was more direct! ;)
>>
>> Perhaps there's something i'm reading wrong somewhere, but this
>problem
>> is growing into something mountainous.
>>
>> Thanks for any further help that anyone could offer me,
>>
>>
>> will
>>
>>
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Hello Freebsd users,

I want to install a dedicated syslog host and log all the syslogs to
that host. In /etc/syslog.conf you can specify a host to log to but I'd
like to log messages from seperate hosts in seperate files on the 
syslog-host.
How can that be configured ?

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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 10:18:42AM -0500, mike.sellenschuetter wrote:
> I am a learning system administrator for a FreeBSD based system at Bank of
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> 
> sudo.*    /var/log/sudo
> 
  did you create the file?
  touch /var/log/sudo
  kill -HUP `cat /var/run/syslog.pid`
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> I can't access ftp.freebsd.org right now to read the docs.  What
does this
> boot manager offer that booteasy doesn't?

Basically it offers a very easy setup with a GUI under DOS. It
supports Linux as well as freeBSD and you can choose what it should
boot to as default. when you install it it goes through all partitions
on all disks and then you just have to tick the boxes you want to be
able to boot to.

// Joel

>
> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Joel Björk wrote:
>
> >There's an alternative boot manager in the tools directory called
> >osbsbeta.exe that is really easy to set up and run, it's all done
in
> >DOS with a GUI.
> >
> >I hope this works for you, I was in the same position and very
close
> >to giving up on FreeBSD all together until I solved this little
> >problem.
> >
> >
> >// Joel
> >
> >> Well, Jay, i gave the bootinst.exe program a shot, but it didn't
> >work.
> >> I ran it, rebooted to the CDROM, installed FreeBSD, restarted,
but
> >it
> >> just went straight into Win98.
> >>
> >> And to clarify what my problem, (sorry that i wasn't being clear
> >enough
> >> John), I cannot seem to get my computer to give me the option of
> >running
> >> Windows 98, or FreeBSD when my system boots up.  In other words,
i
> >can't
> >> get FreeBSD's boot manager to work, and now the bootinst.exe is
> >proven
> >> to not work.
> >>
> >> To be really specific with what i want to do:  during the
> >installation
> >> of FreeBSD, i want to be able to install FreeBSD to my second
hard
> >drive
> >> (D:) and then i want to be able to install a boot manager in the
> >boot
> >> sector of my first drive (C:).  Reverse order would work too, and
> >i'm
> >> not totally sure if i'd need to install the boot manager to the
boot
> >> sectors of both hard drives, but i'd just like to be able to run
> >FreeBSD
> >> after i install it.
> >>
> >> Hopefully that was more direct! ;)
> >>
> >> Perhaps there's something i'm reading wrong somewhere, but this
> >problem
> >> is growing into something mountainous.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any further help that anyone could offer me,
> >>
> >>
> >> will
> >>
> >>
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> >
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> >
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Does is still support splash screens?  Annelise said this is not a
function of the boot manager, but i wanted to be sure.


On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Joel Bj=F6rk wrote:

>
>> I can't access ftp.freebsd.org right now to read the docs.  What
>does this
>> boot manager offer that booteasy doesn't?
>
>Basically it offers a very easy setup with a GUI under DOS. It
>supports Linux as well as freeBSD and you can choose what it should
>boot to as default. when you install it it goes through all partitions
>on all disks and then you just have to tick the boxes you want to be
>able to boot to.
>
>// Joel
>
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Joel Bj=F6rk wrote:
>>
>> >There's an alternative boot manager in the tools directory called
>> >osbsbeta.exe that is really easy to set up and run, it's all done
>in
>> >DOS with a GUI.
>> >
>> >I hope this works for you, I was in the same position and very
>close
>> >to giving up on FreeBSD all together until I solved this little
>> >problem.
>> >
>> >
>> >// Joel
>> >
>> >> Well, Jay, i gave the bootinst.exe program a shot, but it didn't
>> >work.
>> >> I ran it, rebooted to the CDROM, installed FreeBSD, restarted,
>but
>> >it
>> >> just went straight into Win98.
>> >>
>> >> And to clarify what my problem, (sorry that i wasn't being clear
>> >enough
>> >> John), I cannot seem to get my computer to give me the option of
>> >running
>> >> Windows 98, or FreeBSD when my system boots up.  In other words,
>i
>> >can't
>> >> get FreeBSD's boot manager to work, and now the bootinst.exe is
>> >proven
>> >> to not work.
>> >>
>> >> To be really specific with what i want to do:  during the
>> >installation
>> >> of FreeBSD, i want to be able to install FreeBSD to my second
>hard
>> >drive
>> >> (D:) and then i want to be able to install a boot manager in the
>> >boot
>> >> sector of my first drive (C:).  Reverse order would work too, and
>> >i'm
>> >> not totally sure if i'd need to install the boot manager to the
>boot
>> >> sectors of both hard drives, but i'd just like to be able to run
>> >FreeBSD
>> >> after i install it.
>> >>
>> >> Hopefully that was more direct! ;)
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps there's something i'm reading wrong somewhere, but this
>> >problem
>> >> is growing into something mountainous.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for any further help that anyone could offer me,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> will
>> >>
>> >>
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>> -jonathon
>>
>>
>>
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> WHITEOUTS???  What is this?

IIRC, whiteouts are (would be?) used for the union filesystem (similar
to Sun's "translucent" filesystem).  The union filesystem allows one
filesystem to be mounted "over" another, where you see files in both
filesystems with those in the "upper" filesystem overriding those in
the (typically read-only) "lower".  A whiteout in the upper filesystem
hides one in the lower, allowing you to delete files from the union.
Undeleting such a whited-out file would just be a question of removing
the whiteout to expose the original again.

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I read the man page on ep, and i saw the remark on the pencil mark.  Is
that for real?  Or *is* it a joke?

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Dann Lunsford wrote:

>Was looking at the "rm" manpage, noticed something that had escaped 
>my attention:  the -W option.
>
>     -W          Attempt to undelete the named files.  Currently, this option
>                 can only be used to recover files covered by whiteouts.
>
>WHITEOUTS???  What is this?  Never heard of it before and can't
>find any other refs (doesn't mean there aren't any, of course).
>After the "pencil mark on the card to enable something" in the
>ep(4) page, I'm a little, umm, *reluctant* to dismiss this as
>a joke :-).  3.3-STABLE, last built about a week ago.



>
>Thanks!
>
>-- 
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>dann@greycat.com    is that men of good will do nothing.  --  Cicero
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Good day, eh?

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No, osbs-beta doesn't support splash screens.  It's actually a downright
ugly screen it gives you, but it's easy to set up and does a pretty good job=
 :)
--John

>Does is still support splash screens?  Annelise said this is not a
>function of the boot manager, but i wanted to be sure.
>
>
>On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Joel Bj=F6rk wrote:
>
>>
>>> I can't access ftp.freebsd.org right now to read the docs.  What
>>does this
>>> boot manager offer that booteasy doesn't?
>>
>>Basically it offers a very easy setup with a GUI under DOS. It
>>supports Linux as well as freeBSD and you can choose what it should
>>boot to as default. when you install it it goes through all partitions
>>on all disks and then you just have to tick the boxes you want to be
>>able to boot to.
>>
>>// Joel
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Joel Bj=F6rk wrote:
>>>
>>> >There's an alternative boot manager in the tools directory called
>>> >osbsbeta.exe that is really easy to set up and run, it's all done
>>in
>>> >DOS with a GUI.
>>> >
>>> >I hope this works for you, I was in the same position and very
>>close
>>> >to giving up on FreeBSD all together until I solved this little
>>> >problem.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >// Joel
>>> >
>>> >> Well, Jay, i gave the bootinst.exe program a shot, but it didn't
>>> >work.
>>> >> I ran it, rebooted to the CDROM, installed FreeBSD, restarted,
>>but
>>> >it
>>> >> just went straight into Win98.
>>> >>
>>> >> And to clarify what my problem, (sorry that i wasn't being clear
>>> >enough
>>> >> John), I cannot seem to get my computer to give me the option of
>>> >running
>>> >> Windows 98, or FreeBSD when my system boots up.  In other words,
>>i
>>> >can't
>>> >> get FreeBSD's boot manager to work, and now the bootinst.exe is
>>> >proven
>>> >> to not work.
>>> >>
>>> >> To be really specific with what i want to do:  during the
>>> >installation
>>> >> of FreeBSD, i want to be able to install FreeBSD to my second
>>hard
>>> >drive
>>> >> (D:) and then i want to be able to install a boot manager in the
>>> >boot
>>> >> sector of my first drive (C:).  Reverse order would work too, and
>>> >i'm
>>> >> not totally sure if i'd need to install the boot manager to the
>>boot
>>> >> sectors of both hard drives, but i'd just like to be able to run
>>> >FreeBSD
>>> >> after i install it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hopefully that was more direct! ;)
>>> >>
>>> >> Perhaps there's something i'm reading wrong somewhere, but this
>>> >problem
>>> >> is growing into something mountainous.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for any further help that anyone could offer me,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> will
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
>>> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
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>>> >
>>>
>>> -jonathon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Good day, eh?
>
>-jm
>
>
>
>
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So, if I understand this...  you don't have
/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/kde11 ?
/usr/ports/lang/tclxx ?  where xx is a version number.

Are there any refuse files being used by cvsup?
What does your sup file look like?

-Chris
P.S.  Please don't send the output of ls.. thanks.


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
> Sent:	Thursday, November 18, 1999 4:03 AM
> To:	Christopher Michaels
> Cc:	'Ariel Burbaickij'; FreeBSD Questions
> Subject:	RE: cvsup ports-all question
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:
> 
> > How are you making the determination that you don't have the newer
> ports.
> > E.g. KDE, TCL, etc...?  Knowing this may help us determine what the
> actual
> > issue is instead of side-steping around it.
> > 
> > -Chris
>   Thank you for your interest in moy trouble first of all,
>   as to how I determine it is rather simple I just see
>   a structure of my /usr/ports directory.As soon as
>   I do not see subdirectories kde Tcl I guess they
>   are not here.
>   But if in doubt I can surely send the listing of
>   ls -al /usr/ports along my ports-supfile if you need
>   it.
>   Best Regards,
>   Ariel Burbaickij
>   
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
> > > Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:28 PM
> > > To:	Alex Charalabidis
> > > Cc:	Ariel Burbaickij; FreeBSD Questions
> > > Subject:	Re: cvsup ports-all question
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into
> the
> > > > > > /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup
> > > ports-all
> > > > > > should be doing this automatically for every category.
> > > > >  What does DL stand for?
> > > > >  Regards 
> > > > 
> > > > DL stands for "download". You don't want to do it this way because
> stale
> > > > directories and patches will not be deleted, causing any number of
> > > > problems. If you do download the tarball, you want to wipe
> /usr/ports
> > > > first, maybe keeping only the distfiles you expect to need, and only
> > > then
> > > > unpack the new one.
> > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after
> it?(e.g.
> > > kde
> > > > > > >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to
> do
> > > it and 
> > > > > > >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a
> > > question
> > > > > > >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on
> it
> > > > > > >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
> > > > > > >suggestions?
> > > > 
> > > > I don't quite get the question... cvsup'ing ports-all should leave
> you
> > > > with all that's new in the right place and all that's old gone (and
> if
> > > > it's not there, there's no port for it...). No problem and don't
> worry,
> > > be
> > > > happy.
> > > > 
> > > > -ac
> > >  I know what they should it was not so hard to guess :)) I even
> > >  did not get what should be here but rather the things I got
> > >  what I can send is the listing of my /usr/ports AFTER updating
> > >  my ports-supfile so that you can persude yourself.
> > >  As to actual timepoint I am missing in UPDATED tree kde Tcl
> > >  and some other new-comers.
> > >  As to the being happy I surely am but somehow miss the ports,though
> > >  just post the files and listings you would like to get from me.
> > >  PS
> > >  MY original system was 3.2-rel so it is clear to me what came
> > >  added later and what not
> > >  Best Regards
> > >  Ariel Burbaickij
> > >  
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > ==============================================================
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> > > > Systems Administrator                        Memphis, TN 38157
> > > > WebNet Memphis                                  (901) 432 6000
> > > > ==============================================================
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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Check through the mailing list archives on this.  It's been discussed
before.  But, if I remember correctly, it is true.
-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jonathon McKitrick [SMTP:jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org]
> Sent:	Thursday, November 18, 1999 11:55 AM
> To:	Dann Lunsford
> Cc:	questions@freebsd.org
> Subject:	Re: "whiteouts" in rm manpage
> 
> I read the man page on ep, and i saw the remark on the pencil mark.  Is
> that for real?  Or *is* it a joke?
> 
> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Dann Lunsford wrote:
> 
> >Was looking at the "rm" manpage, noticed something that had escaped 
> >my attention:  the -W option.
> >
> >     -W          Attempt to undelete the named files.  Currently, this
> option
> >                 can only be used to recover files covered by whiteouts.
> >
> >WHITEOUTS???  What is this?  Never heard of it before and can't
> >find any other refs (doesn't mean there aren't any, of course).
> >After the "pencil mark on the card to enable something" in the
> >ep(4) page, I'm a little, umm, *reluctant* to dismiss this as
> >a joke :-).  3.3-STABLE, last built about a week ago.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >-- 
> >Dann Lunsford       The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
> >dann@greycat.com    is that men of good will do nothing.  --  Cicero
> >
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> Good day, eh?
> 
> -jm
> 
> 
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it, according to the docs, we need to write a C program that will "read 
I/O register 180H."

I'm a fairly experienced C programmer, but not sure how this would be
accomplished in FreeBSD.  Any care to give me a code snippet that does
this?

Cliff




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Hi!

Please help me with subj!
When I burn my CD - I get CD with Rock Ridge Extensions, what don't
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Please, help me burn iso-image with Joliet extension.

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Annelise Anderson wrote:
> 
> This is the point where I generally give up and conclude that
> these U.S. Robotics toys, and other consumer modems intended
> primarily to dial out, are just not going to work.  The terminology
> gets confusing--I'm not sure what's set in gettytab, what's set
> by ppp or pppd, what's set by modem defaults, what comes from
> stty or how to preserve those settings.  With the settings below,
> I just get screen garbage.  So, back to 9600 if I want to use it
> at all.  :(

This is all part of the problem of serial communication. Too many
knobs to turn and you don't know what they are until you get them all
right.

I was a on-site rep for a service company out of Dallas, TX and was
supposed to call-in errors for my customers that were using our lines.
I didn't speak the lingo and so I was a DS to the local long-line
people. If they didn't fix the problem in two hours, I was to call the
service center in Dallas. The liason between our company and GTE was
at the VP level and the local long-line people found out something all
plumbers know. After the second call to Dallas about no response, they
left me on the line when they acted on the third call. You have to
imagine a party line with 40 people on it all working on their own set
of problems. I was still a DS when it came to their terminology but
they made an effort to understand me :).

First of all, it will work but there are some things that you have to
set up properly. It appears that neither of us understand what we need
to do but there are many people here that have dial-in at 56kb. So, it
will work. We just need to know what and where the defaults are stored
and change them to at least 38.4kb. In order for v.42bis compression
to work, your link between your computer and the modem needs to be 4
times the highest connect rate you expect. In order to get a full
compression at 33.6kb, you need to have the connection setup at
115.2kb. You have told the modem to fix the baud rate &B1 and then
gave it an upper limit of 9600 baud by communicating with it at 9600.
I would expect that you need to set your serial line setting in the
ttys (ttyd0-3) for the line with the modem on it to std.38400 or
std.57600. I think that become the default dial-in rate.

If that doesn't work, then we need some expert help that has to be
available on questions.

Kent

> 
>         Annelise
> 
> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> 
> > Your comment about B0 rang a bell because that is where it chooses ITU
> > or US answering tones. B1 is US tones. I was really thinking of &H1
> > and &R2 instead of &F1.
> >
> > I don't know about your stty command because I was always on the PC
> > end when we tested the lines. With user-ppp, I set the line to 115.2
> > kb and tell it to dial. No one dials into this system.
> >
> > Your initialization on the one that is answering at 9600 needs to be
> > pre-established at 38.4 kb or 57.6 kb. If the link between the
> > computer and the modem is established at 9600 the modem will not
> > select a higher baud rate.
> >
> > Kent
> >
> > Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > >
> > > > Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Annelise Anderson wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This interests me quite a lot, because I have external 56K Sportster
> > > > > > > Robotics modems at home and at the office (on a regular phone
> > > > > > > line); I can dial out just fine and make connections, but I can't
> > > > > > > get the modem at the office to answer and establish a connection
> > > > > > > at better than 9600.  This is v.90; maybe I should turn that off?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The v.90 should be a choice. For example, I occasionally get 28.8kb
> > > > > > and I know I have a bad line but the handshaking also has a different
> > > > > > tone and I was told that was leaving v.90.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your two user modems should not be able to connect are more than 33.6
> > > > > > because each considers the other an upload and settle for 33.6 kb max.
> > > > > > The modems that support 53kb are different from the ones a user can
> > > > > > purchase.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't have any idea why they wouldn't connect at 33.6kb other than a
> > > > > > mismatch or line quality between them. That is terrible and I would
> > > > > > expect a configuration problem. They are supposed to argue until they
> > > > > > come up with something they both support. In your case, it is 9.6 kb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can set them up to tell what the connection is and I would log
> > > > > > that and see if it provides any clues.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kent
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is that unless I have std.9600 in /etc/ttys, I can't
> > > > > connect at all; I either get continual garbage on the screen or a
> > > > > login that responds but doesn't allow the ppp (or pppd) connection
> > > > > to come up.  These failure don't log.  For a while I had some sort
> > > > > of a rotary thing set up in gettytab, but this doesn't work either.
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried locking the DTE rate and let the modem buffer the
> > > > connection. I use &F1 and &B1. That locks the serial rate between the
> > > > computer and the modem and specifies Hardware Flow control. You fix
> > > > the serial port at some rate such a 57.6kb or 115.2kb and let the
> > > > modem connect at what ever speed it wants to. You have to use Hardware
> > > > flow control (RTS/CTS) to block when one of the pieces is getting
> > > > ahead of the other.
> > > >
> > > > Kent
> > >
> > > Yes, I have a definition in gettytab that looks like this:
> > >
> > > # AA's VHS modem
> > > vm|VH300|VHS at 300,8-bit:\
> > >         :nx=VH57600:tc=std.300:
> > > vn|VH1200|VHS at 1200,8-bit:\
> > >         :nx=VH300:tc=std.1200:
> > > vo|VH2400|VHS at 2400,8-bit:\
> > >         :nx=VH1200:tc=std.2400:
> > > vp|VH9600|VHS at 9600,8-bit:\
> > >         :nx=VH2400:tc=std.9600:
> > > vq|VH14400|VHS at 14400,8-bit:\
> > >         :nx=VH9600:tc=std.14400:
> > > vs|VH19200|VHS at 19200,8-bit:\
> > >         :nx=VH14400:tc=std.19200:
> > > vt|VH28800|VHS at 28800,8-bit:\
> > >         :nx=VH19200:tc=std.28800:
> > > vu|VH38400|VHS at 38400,8-bit:\
> > >         :nx=VH28800:tc=std.38400:
> > > vv|VH57600|VHS at 57600,8-bit:\
> > >         :nx=VH38400:tc=std.57600:
> > >
> > > that I use with VH38400 in ttys instead of std.9600, in the ttyd0 entry:
> > >
> > > ttyd0   "/usr/libexec/getty VH38400"    dialup  on secure
> > >
> > > The modem output looks like this: (Maybe it needs to be B1 in the
> > > first line?)
> > >
> > > Script started on Wed Nov 17 23:20:10 1999
> > > Connected.
> > > ATATE1Q0
> > > OK
> > > ATI4
> > > U.S. Robotics 56K FAX EXT Settings...
> > >
> > >    B0  E1  F1  M1  Q0  V1  X4  Y0
> > >    BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8
> > >    DIAL=TONE    ON HOOK   CID=0
> > >
> > >    &A3  &B1  &C1  &D2  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1
> > >    &M4  &N0  &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1
> > >
> > >    S00=001  S01=000  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002
> > >    S07=060  S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000
> > >    S15=000  S16=000  S18=000  S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019
> > >    S25=005  S27=000  S28=008  S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002
> > >    S33=000  S34=000  S35=000  S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001
> > >    S41=000  S42=000
> > >
> > >    LAST DIALED #: T
> > >
> > > OK
> > > ATI5
> > > U.S. Robotics 56K FAX EXT NVRAM Settings...
> > >
> > >  Template Y0
> > >
> > >    DIAL=TONE   B0  F1  M1  X4
> > >    BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8
> > >
> > >    &A3  &B1  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1  &M4  &N0
> > >    &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1
> > >
> > >    S00=001  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002  S07=060
> > >    S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000  S15=000
> > >    S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019  S25=005  S27=000  S28=008
> > >    S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002  S33=000  S34=000  S35=000
> > >    S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001  S41=000  S42=000
> > >
> > >
> > > Strike a key when ready . . .
> > >
> > >  Template Y1
> > >
> > >    DIAL=TONE   B0  F1  M1  X4
> > >    BAUD=9600  PARITY=N  WORDLEN=8
> > >
> > >    &A3  &B1  &G0  &H1  &I0  &K1  &M4  &N0
> > >    &P0  &R2  &S1  &T5  &U0  &Y1
> > >
> > >    S00=001  S02=043  S03=013  S04=010  S05=008  S06=002  S07=060
> > >    S08=002  S09=006  S10=014  S11=070  S12=050  S13=000  S15=000
> > >    S19=000  S21=010  S22=017  S23=019  S25=005  S27=000  S28=008
> > >    S29=020  S30=000  S31=128  S32=002  S33=000  S34=000  S35=000
> > >    S36=014  S38=000  S39=000  S40=001  S41=000  S42=000
> > >
> > > OK
> > > ATE0Q1&W1W0
> > > Script done on Wed Nov 17 23:26:37 1999
> > >
> > > I've struggled a lot with this without success, so I appreciate
> > > your efforts to help.  I hope I'm doing something wrong, however
> > > stupid.  I even sent a modem back to U.S. Robotics for "repair."
> > >
> > > The output of stty -a -f /dev/ttyd0 shows it (I'm not sure if it's
> > > the rate at which it is connecting to the computer or the line)
> > > as:
> > >
> > > speed 9600 baud; 0 rows; 0 columns;
> > > lflags: -icanon -isig -iexten -echo -echoe -echok -echoke -echonl
> > >         -echoctl -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho -pendin
> > >         -nokerninfo -extproc
> > > iflags: -istrip -icrnl -inlcr -igncr -ixon -ixoff -ixany -imaxbel -ignbrk
> > >         -brkint -inpck -ignpar -parmrk
> > > oflags: -opost -onlcr -oxtabs
> > > cflags: cread cs8 -parenb -parodd hupcl -clocal -cstopb -crtscts -dsrflow
> > >         -dtrflow -mdmbuf
> > > cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = <undef>;
> > >         eol2 = <undef>; erase = ^?; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V;
> > >         min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ^T;
> > >         stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W;
> > >
> > > Annelise
> > >
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> >
> > --
> > Kent Stewart
> > Richland, WA
> >
> > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com
> > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html
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> >
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> >
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I really appreciate your suggestions Sheldon,
Actually the KERNEL is currently running with these settings, i.e.,
NMBCLUSTERS=8192 it was compiled and used and the messages is produced with
that KERNEL running. even though it does not have the quotation mark around
it. We are running FreeBSD Release 3.2.
Most likely I would have to recompile the KERNEL reflecting the quotation
around the NMBCLUSTERS=8192? Now, is this expected usage? it most likely is,
We serve Video feeds out of those servers so the usage is pretty high. I
doubt if it is Denial of Service (DoS) attack, but you never know I'll take
a look at it. Thanx

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From: Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>
To: Majid Almassari <majid@ibroadcast.net>
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Subject: Re: NMBCLUSTERS


>
>
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:14:56 GMT, "Majid Almassari" wrote:
>
> > according to FAQ (http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/troubleshoot.html#AEN1135)
=
> > you can set the NMBCLUSTERS option in the KERNEL configuration to
> > options "NMBCLUSTERS=3D<n>"  where <n> is in the range 512-4096, my two
=
> > questions are:
>
> > 1. We have servers that this value is set as options
> > NMBCLUSTERS=3D8192 is this normal to be that high even in FAQ the MAX
> > is 4096.
>
> I see Dag-Erling Smorgrav (one of the FreeBSD developers who manages a
> hard-hit IRC network) mentioning that he used 8192 in a message on the
> freebsd-hackers mailing list some time back.  He probably knows what
> he's doing, so I doubt that this high value is a problem.
>
> > 2. The entry does not have a quotation mark around it as the FAQ does
> > is it mandatory to have those quotation marks?
>
> Now that _definitely_ depends on what version of FreeBSD you're using.
> If you're using 2.x.x or 3.x, you _must_ use the quotation marks.
>
> > when I issue netstat -m the settings are realized sine it reports
> >
> > 3187/3616 mbufs in use:
> >         2890 mbufs allocated to data
> >         297 mbufs allocated to packet headers
> > 2546/2930/8192 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
>
> Watch that peek value over time. You may be able to drop NMBCLUSTERS
> back down to 4096 if you can ascertain that peak doesn't go up
> dramatically.
>
> > The reason I'm investigating this is because I get a KERNEL panic and
> > the server reboots. The message in the /var/log/messages states:
> > /kernel: Out of mbuf clusters - adjust NMBCLUSTERS or increase maxusers!
>
> I sincerely hope you got that message _before_ you booted the kernel
> that has 8192 NMBCLUSTERS and not _after_!  If even 8192 isn't enough,
> you should really try to figure out whether this high consumption is
> caused by expected usage, or whether you're under DoS attack.  If the
> latter, see what you can do about protecting this machine off from such
> attacks.
>
> Ciao,
> Sheldon.
>
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Has anyone ahd the same problems I haveing starting radiusd at boot
time?

I've instaled ascend-radius980618 from the UK ftp server via
/stand/sysinstall.  I can start it OK by hand, logged in as root.

However, despite having an rc.local file as such :

sleep 60
/usr/local/sbin/radiusd
echo - n ' radiusd '

at boot time the "radiusd" is echoed to the screen BUT radiusd doesn't
start!

I've tried the sleep 60 at the start in order to give everything else a
chance to settle down in case radiusd needs something else running ok to
run itself, but it makes no difference.  However, I can log in and start
it by hand as root perfectly adequately.

There are no entries in /var/log/messages to indicate there are any
problems.

Has anybody any ideas?  I'm running FBSD v 3.2

Regards



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Hi,

I believe Dennis already has all that with his watchdog card: 

http://www.etinc.com

Take care,
Randy Katz

On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 12:03:20PM -0500, Cliff Addy wrote:
> I'm looking at a watchdog card to integrate into our servers here.  To use
> it, according to the docs, we need to write a C program that will "read 
> I/O register 180H."
> 
> I'm a fairly experienced C programmer, but not sure how this would be
> accomplished in FreeBSD.  Any care to give me a code snippet that does
> this?
> 
> Cliff
> 
> 
> 
> 
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:09:10 +0200, 

> this natd looks like the way to go, but there must be something wrong with
> my syntax.

Did you fgollow the instructions in the manual page section ``RUNNING
NATD''?  There are options that need to be compiled into your running
kernel and at least one option that needs to be enabled in /etc/rc.conf.

Ciao,
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I'm trying to install netatalk-asun on FreeBSD3.3-STABLE (source from
3 days ago) from ports.  I cvsupped yesterday to the latest ports
tree.  My kernel config file contains the needed   options  NETATALK.

During the make, it bombs out (after a few minutes of compiling)
while trying to compile auth.c

auth.c:145: des.h: No such file or directory
auth.c:146: parse error before 'seskey'
auth.c:147: warning: data definition has no type or storage class

etc, etc....

(I can include more if needed, but I doubt it will be of much help). 

After finally deciding it can't properly compile auth.c, the make
gives up.


I searched the mailing list archive, and there isn't much discussion
of netatalk.


I do not have the DES sources installed.  I originally set the
machine up using MD5 passwords.



Anyone have ideas?  

Thanks in advance


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Hi there;
Is there a document on how to test the FreeBSD
compatibility layer for other operating systems ?

I know that FreeBSD has the power to run;

1. dos programs
2. windows programs
3. BSDi programs
4. Linux Programs

but can it run other OSs binaries, like
SunOS, MacOs, BeOS, HPunix, NetBSD, etc....

I want some FreeBSD guru to point us to:

EXACT, and ACURATE way to:
1. know which version of which OS we can run bins
from
2. where to grab (at least) a single bin for
each.
3. FreeBSD Kernel configuration needed
4. locations of supposed bin, lib, etc on the 
FreeBSD machine to make things run smooth.
4. permissions that don't break any security
things,  or crash anything.
5. Any other OSs that FreeBSD is planning,
or currently developing or considering.

Any Feedback on such docs or URLs is greatly
appreciated.
thanks  in advance.

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On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at 12:03:20 -0500, Cliff Addy wrote:
> I'm looking at a watchdog card to integrate into our servers here.  To use
> it, according to the docs, we need to write a C program that will "read
> I/O register 180H."
>
> I'm a fairly experienced C programmer, but not sure how this would be
> accomplished in FreeBSD.  Any care to give me a code snippet that does
> this?

Well, to do it right, it's not a code snippet.  You need a driver:
userland shouldn't access I/O registers directly.  There are ways
around this restriction, but you shouldn't use them unless you have a
*very* good reason.

Having said that, the code itself is trivial:

#include <machine/cpufunc.h>

...

  value = inb (0x180);

This assumes that you're reading a byte; look at cpufunc.h for the
gory details.

Greg
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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 12:25:00PM -0500, mike.sellenschuetter wrote:
> Thank you for your suggestion.  I verified that the /var/log/sudo file did
> exist, and I hupped the daemon again.  I then tried a command with sudo.
> Afterwards, I checked the /var/log/sudo file and it was empty, and a tail of
> the /var/log/messages file revealed that logging was still being directed to
> the messages file.  Is their anything that I need to do to configure sudo?

  I am sorry Mike, my answer was wrong :-|, I should have read your
  message more carefully. My answer was a stock answer to a stock problem
  with syslogd, and that is not having the file to begin with.

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  syslogd and have Fun!!! :-)

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  BBTG
> 
> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 10:18:42AM -0500, mike.sellenschuetter wrote:
> > I am a learning system administrator for a FreeBSD based system at Bank of
> > America, and I am having a problem getting sudo to log to a file other than
> > /var/log/messages.  In the /etc/syslog.conf file, I made the following entry:
> >
> > sudo.*    /var/log/sudo
> >
>   did you create the file?
>   touch /var/log/sudo
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>   This should do it for you.
> 

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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 12:03:52AM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
> Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> 
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> 
> I have a vague feeling it's Chinese, though I'm not sure why it's zh.
> 

ISTR that the 2-letter country codes are from an ISO standard that
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On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at 10:07:49 -0800, Joss Roots wrote:
> Hi there;
> Is there a document on how to test the FreeBSD
> compatibility layer for other operating systems ?
>
> I know that FreeBSD has the power to run;
>
> 1. dos programs
> 2. windows programs
> 3. BSDi programs
> 4. Linux Programs
>
> but can it run other OSs binaries, like
> SunOS, MacOs, BeOS, HPunix, NetBSD, etc....

It can run SunOS 5 (Solaris) on Intel (ELF), NetBSD and SCO (COFF)
executables.

> I want some FreeBSD guru to point us to:
>
> EXACT, and ACURATE way to:
> 1. know which version of which OS we can run bins
> from
> 2. where to grab (at least) a single bin for
> each.
> 3. FreeBSD Kernel configuration needed
> 4. locations of supposed bin, lib, etc on the
> FreeBSD machine to make things run smooth.
> 4. permissions that don't break any security
> things,  or crash anything.
> 5. Any other OSs that FreeBSD is planning,
> or currently developing or considering.

This is probably the wrong thing to ask.  Pointers you'll get.  EXACT,
AC(C)URATE ways are things you can help define.

There's stuff about this in the handbook, and also in "The Complete
FreeBSD".  There could be more in the handbook; how about helping?

Greg
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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 08:07:01PM +0000, Alexandr Listopad wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Please help me with subj!
> When I burn my CD - I get CD with Rock Ridge Extensions, what don't
> support on winduz... ;( And when I install FreeBSD, it say:
> 
> 	acd0: read_toc failed
> 
> ;(
> 
> But it seems good on machine with CD-writer... all files are ok! And logs
> say: 
> 	/kernel: cd9660: RockRidge Estension
> 
> Please, help me burn iso-image with Joliet extension.
> 
It has the joliet extensions! But on FreeBSD RockRidge are the standard and 
it tries first that and not Joliet.

I burn CDs which are readable on UNIX and Win systems with:

mkisofs -v -a -d -J -D -L -r -T

With:
	# mount_cd9660 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom

I get:	 cd9660: RockRidge Extension

but with 
	# mount_cd9660 -r /dev/wcd0c /cdrom
(the -r stands for: disbale rock risge)

I get	 cd9660: Joliet Extension

So I think you have the right settings already.

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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 05:59:25AM -0600, Nivek wrote:
> 
> Tell me whether this sucks, is cool, lame as hell, or whatever..I did
> this out of boredom..
> 

:-)

Reminds me of that saying:

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	LSD and Unix. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
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> 



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Hi!

I have a FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE and using DUMMYNET.
The freebsd reboot time to time.
In log I see this messages

kernel: -- warning, refcnt now 0, decreasing
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kernen: -- warning, refcnt now -2, decreasing


How can solve this problem?

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>On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 12:03:52AM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
>> Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
>> 
>> >     I have seen some docs in German also
>> >     What does zh stands for?
>> 
>> I have a vague feeling it's Chinese, though I'm not sure why it's zh.

Just a thought: de = deutsch, es = espanol, fr = francais, en = english
The letters must represent the sound of the language name as spoken in
that language.  Chinese in the chinese language may begin with a 'zh'
sound.  But that doesn't explain 'ja'. >

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Dear All,
 An old binary which was quite happy with linux_lib-2.6 does not work
with linux_base. It fails to load ld.so.
 It seems to have a point, since ld.so in /compat/linux/lib is now ELF.
For now dropping in old ld.so made the program in question run,
but was is the right method (if any)?
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--- Greg Lehey <grog@mojave.sitaranetworks.com>
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> On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at 10:07:49
> -0800, Joss Roots wrote:
> > Hi there;
> > Is there a document on how to test the
> FreeBSD
> > compatibility layer for other operating
> systems ?
> >
> > I know that FreeBSD has the power to run;
> >
> > 1. dos programs
> > 2. windows programs
> > 3. BSDi programs
> > 4. Linux Programs
> >
> > but can it run other OSs binaries, like
> > SunOS, MacOs, BeOS, HPunix, NetBSD, etc....
> 
> It can run SunOS 5 (Solaris) on Intel (ELF),
> NetBSD and SCO (COFF)
> executables.

OK, lets say is there at least a "Complete" :-)
list of which OSs, and their versions ?
From your answer, I can see you got my point 
(as usual).

> 
> > I want some FreeBSD guru to point us to:
> >
> > EXACT, and ACURATE way to:
> > 1. know which version of which OS we can run
> bins
> > from
> > 2. where to grab (at least) a single bin for
> > each.
> > 3. FreeBSD Kernel configuration needed
> > 4. locations of supposed bin, lib, etc on the
> > FreeBSD machine to make things run smooth.
> > 4. permissions that don't break any security
> > things,  or crash anything.
> > 5. Any other OSs that FreeBSD is planning,
> > or currently developing or considering.
> 
> This is probably the wrong thing to ask. 
> Pointers you'll get.  EXACT,
> AC(C)URATE ways are things you can help define.
VERY nice Gotcha grog, sorry for the
"INAC(C)URACY", if this proves anythiing,
it would that you can never be sure you're
100% bug-free :-)

> 
> There's stuff about this in the handbook, and
> also in "The Complete
> FreeBSD".  There could be more in the handbook;
> how about helping?
I'll dig into that and see how this conforms with
my original suggestion.  I have great trust in
Handbook, and "The Complete FreeBSD", after all
it is written by the "The" Greg Lehey.

I would very much like to help, at last
I would have the honour to adding "anything" to
the wonderful "unexplored" world of FreeBSD.

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>> It can run SunOS 5 (Solaris) on Intel (ELF),
>> NetBSD and SCO (COFF)
>> executables.

Why the distinction between SunOS on Intel and the others?  Does that mean
NetBSD and SCO emulation can run on other processors?



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> > > Hi there;
> > > Is there a document on how to test the
> > FreeBSD
> > > compatibility layer for other operating
> > systems ?
> > >
> > > I know that FreeBSD has the power to run;
> > >
> > > 1. dos programs
> > > 2. windows programs
> > > 3. BSDi programs
> > > 4. Linux Programs
> > >
> > > but can it run other OSs binaries, like
> > > SunOS, MacOs, BeOS, HPunix, NetBSD, etc....
> > 
> > It can run SunOS 5 (Solaris) on Intel (ELF),
> > NetBSD and SCO (COFF)
> > executables.
> 
> OK, lets say is there at least a "Complete" :-)
> list of which OSs, and their versions ?
> From your answer, I can see you got my point 
> (as usual).
> 
> > 
> > > I want some FreeBSD guru to point us to:
> > >
> > > EXACT, and ACURATE way to:
> > > 1. know which version of which OS we can
> run
> > bins
> > > from
> > > 2. where to grab (at least) a single bin
> for
> > > each.
> > > 3. FreeBSD Kernel configuration needed
> > > 4. locations of supposed bin, lib, etc on
> the
> > > FreeBSD machine to make things run smooth.
> > > 4. permissions that don't break any
> security
> > > things,  or crash anything.
> > > 5. Any other OSs that FreeBSD is planning,
> > > or currently developing or considering.
> > 
> > This is probably the wrong thing to ask. 
> > Pointers you'll get.  EXACT,
> > AC(C)URATE ways are things you can help
> define.
> VERY nice Gotcha grog, sorry for the
> "INAC(C)URACY", if this proves anythiing,
> it would that you can never be sure you're
> 100% bug-free :-)
> 
> > 
> > There's stuff about this in the handbook, and
> > also in "The Complete
> > FreeBSD".  There could be more in the
> handbook;
> > how about helping?
> I'll dig into that and see how this conforms
> with
> my original suggestion.  I have great trust in
> Handbook, and "The Complete FreeBSD", after all
> it is written by the "The" Greg Lehey.
> 
> I would very much like to help, at last
> I would have the honour to adding "anything" to
> the wonderful "unexplored" world of FreeBSD.


My reply to you was rejected, apparently
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Mark Ovens wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 12:03:52AM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
 > > Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
 > > >     I have seen some docs in German also
 > > >     What does zh stands for?
 > > 
 > > I have a vague feeling it's Chinese, though I'm not sure why it's zh.
 > 
 > ISTR that the 2-letter country codes are from an ISO standard that
 > defines agreed standard data about territories officially recoginized
 > as independent countries - or something along those lines. Not sure
 > what the ISO no. is though.

olli@kiste:~> grep zh /usr/share/misc/iso639
zh Chinese

Regards
   Oliver

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On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at 19:16:32 +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>
>>> It can run SunOS 5 (Solaris) on Intel (ELF),
>>> NetBSD and SCO (COFF)
>>> executables.
>
> Why the distinction between SunOS on Intel and the others?  Does that mean
> NetBSD and SCO emulation can run on other processors?

I don't know of any emulations which emulate a different instruction
set, so there's a further restriction: as far as I know, *all* of the
emulations run on Intel only, and they emulate Intel coe for the other
operating system.

Greg
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Is there a way to a run adduser and not have to step through every single
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take out all the stuff in there execpt for name and passwd? And if it is
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scriping some automatic user adds and don't want to have to do all the
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Quick follow up.
I'm talking about a way to do it that is shorter then using the
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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 10:24:21AM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at  6:58:15 +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
> > Hi!
> > Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem? 

I mean this situation:
I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).

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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 10:34:26PM +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:

> I mean this situation:
> I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
> to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).

Um. So what's wrong with open(2), read(2) or fopen(3), fread(3)?

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I am still trying to get my modem to work, but when I enter terminal mode in
ppp, none of my keystrokes (or any of the replies from the modem) are echoed
to the terminal.  Does anybody know what could be causing this?  Please let
my know what information about my system configuration would be helpful.

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Mike



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On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at 22:34:26 +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 10:24:21AM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at  6:58:15 +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
>> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
>> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
>
> I mean this situation:
> I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
> to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).

Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?

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Are you sure that you're using the correct COM port? Check
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf and make sure that you have the correct device listed for
your modem...



9:23am@parrothd/etc>cd ppp
9:23am@parrothd/etc/ppp>more ppp.conf
#################################################################
#
#       PPP  Sample Configuration File
#
#         Written by Toshiharu OHNO
#
# $Id: ppp.conf.sample,v 1.5.2.12 1997/09/10 01:00:27 brian Exp $
#
#################################################################

# Default setup. Always executed when PPP is invoked.
#
default:
 set device /dev/cuaa0 <<<----------------This means COM1, cuaa1 = COM2
 set speed 57600
# set log Phase +Chat Connect Carrier hdlc LCP IPCP CCP tun
 deny lqr
 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK
\\dATm1DT\\T TIMEOUT 100 CONNECT"


At 01:06 PM 11/18/99 -0700, Dewey, Michael wrote:
>I am still trying to get my modem to work, but when I enter terminal mode in
>ppp, none of my keystrokes (or any of the replies from the modem) are echoed
>to the terminal.  Does anybody know what could be causing this?  Please let
>my know what information about my system configuration would be helpful.
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
>
>
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Michail Vidiassov wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
>  An old binary which was quite happy with linux_lib-2.6 does not work
> with linux_base. It fails to load ld.so.
>  It seems to have a point, since ld.so in /compat/linux/lib is now ELF.
> For now dropping in old ld.so made the program in question run,
> but was is the right method (if any)?

Not overwriting the ELF version is probably more "right" than
overwriting it. But this is just a technicality :-)

In short: yes, I don't think you had a choice, other than upgrading the
aout binary.

Try making a directory with aout libraries (say /compat/linux/lib/aout)
and setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to it when you run aout binaries.

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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:23:24PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
> >> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
> >> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
> > I mean this situation:
> > I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
> > to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).
> Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?

Could you give me short example?

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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 08:18:02PM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Mark Ovens wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
>  > On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 12:03:52AM +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote:
>  > > Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
>  > > >     I have seen some docs in German also
>  > > >     What does zh stands for?
>  > > 
>  > > I have a vague feeling it's Chinese, though I'm not sure why it's zh.
>  > 
>  > ISTR that the 2-letter country codes are from an ISO standard that
>  > defines agreed standard data about territories officially recoginized
>  > as independent countries - or something along those lines. Not sure
>  > what the ISO no. is though.
> 
> olli@kiste:~> grep zh /usr/share/misc/iso639
> zh Chinese
> 

Thanks.

Also there is /usr/share/misc/iso3166 which gives the
3-digit, 2-letter, and 3-letter country codes. I thought that they
were all part of one ISO standard, evidently not.

> Regards
>    Oliver
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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 02:22:21PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at 19:16:32 +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> >
> >>> It can run SunOS 5 (Solaris) on Intel (ELF),
> >>> NetBSD and SCO (COFF)
> >>> executables.
> >
> > Why the distinction between SunOS on Intel and the others?  Does that mean
> > NetBSD and SCO emulation can run on other processors?
> 
> I don't know of any emulations which emulate a different instruction
> set,

Is that not what FX!32 does to run Intel Windows apps on DEC Alphas
(under WinNT for Alpha), or were you being FreeBSD/Unix specific?


> so there's a further restriction: as far as I know, *all* of the
> emulations run on Intel only, and they emulate Intel coe for the other
> operating system.
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I'm pretty sure that I am using the right COM port (I've tried most of the
other ones as well just to make sure).  I get the following when I type show
modem:

Name: deflink
 State:			open, no carrier
 Device:		/dev/cuaa1
 Link Type:		interactive
 Connect Count:	1
 Physical outq:	0
 Queued Packets:	0
 Phone Number:	N/A

Defaults:
 Device List:		/dev/cuaa1
 Characteristics:	38400bps, cs8, no parity, CTS/RTS on

Is there something I could have forgot to configure with my modem?  I did a
MAKEDEV for cuaa1 and tun0, and put a line about sio1 in my kernel config
file.  Is there anything else?

Mike

> ----------
> From: 	Jonathan E. Lyons
> Sent: 	Thursday, November 18, 1999 12:24 PM
> To: 	Dewey, Michael; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: 	Re: Terminal mode in ppp
> 
> Are you sure that you're using the correct COM port? Check
> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and make sure that you have the correct device listed
> for
> your modem...
> 
> 
> 
> 9:23am@parrothd/etc>cd ppp
> 9:23am@parrothd/etc/ppp>more ppp.conf
> #################################################################
> #
> #       PPP  Sample Configuration File
> #
> #         Written by Toshiharu OHNO
> #
> # $Id: ppp.conf.sample,v 1.5.2.12 1997/09/10 01:00:27 brian Exp $
> #
> #################################################################
> 
> # Default setup. Always executed when PPP is invoked.
> #
> default:
>  set device /dev/cuaa0 <<<----------------This means COM1, cuaa1 = COM2
>  set speed 57600
> # set log Phase +Chat Connect Carrier hdlc LCP IPCP CCP tun
>  deny lqr
>  set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK
> \\dATm1DT\\T TIMEOUT 100 CONNECT"
> 
> 
> At 01:06 PM 11/18/99 -0700, Dewey, Michael wrote:
> >I am still trying to get my modem to work, but when I enter terminal mode
> in
> >ppp, none of my keystrokes (or any of the replies from the modem) are
> echoed
> >to the terminal.  Does anybody know what could be causing this?  Please
> let
> >my know what information about my system configuration would be helpful.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Mike
> >
> >
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On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at 23:28:46 +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:23:24PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
>>>> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
>>>> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
>>> I mean this situation:
>>> I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
>>> to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).
>> Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?
>
> Could you give me short example?

OK, here's copyme.c:

#include <fcntl.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <sys/stat.h>

extern int errno;

main (int argc, char *argv [])
{
  int me = open (argv [0], O_RDONLY);
  int you;
  char buffer [4096];
  int count;

  if (argc < 2)
    {
    fprintf (stderr, "No output file specified\n");
    return 1;
    }
  if (me < 0)
    {
    fprintf (stderr, "Can't open %s: %s\n", argv [0], strerror (errno));
    return 1;
    }
  you = open (argv [1], O_RDWR | O_APPEND | O_CREAT, S_IRUSR);
  if (you < 0)
    {
    fprintf (stderr, "Can't open %s: %s\n", argv [1], strerror (errno));
    return 1;
    }
  while ((count = read (me, buffer, 4096)) > 0)
    {
    if (write (you, buffer, count) < 0)
      {
      perror ("Can't write");
      return 1;
      }
    }
  if (count < 0)
    {
    perror ("Can't read");
    return 1;
    }
  return ;
  }

And here's what happens when I run it:

 $ copyme foo
 $ cmp copyme foo 
 $ ls -l copyme foo 
 -rwxrwxrwx  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 copyme
 -r--------  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 foo
 $ 

Not much use, is it?  Was that your class assignment?

Greg
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:

> Is there a way to a run adduser and not have to step through every single
> little question?  Is it ok to edit the /etc/adduser.conf file and just
> take out all the stuff in there execpt for name and passwd? And if it is
> ok I assume then that all the guid and all that is just steped up for
> every user.  ???
> scriping some automatic user adds and don't want to have to do all the
> steps in adduser. 

man pw

:)

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On 1999-Nov-18 16:44:28 +1100, TrouBle wrote:
>obliterate only wipes the one file you specify.. i want to wipe all the
>free space on the disk, without damaging good intact files on it,

This isn't technically possible.  You can't securely wipe data from a
disk using the disks own R/W head/electronics (which is the only way
to preserve intact files).

I'd suggest the following:
1) Copy wanted files to another disk.
2) Wipe unwanted files off original disk using one of the following:
  a) Raise temperature of entire disk drive to >>1000 degrees, stir
     well and (optionally) add plenty of oxygen.  Cool and pulverise.
  b) Open drive housing and gently manicure each platter with an
     angle grinder.

> linux
>has a progrtam called wipe that does this,

Not securely.

>> The thread was "Secure deletion". There is a handy prog in Message-ID
>>   <378A58EA.ACF1412F@softweyr.com>

You can specify a disk partition instead of a file if you want.

Peter


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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:23:24PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
> > >>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
> > >> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
> > >> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
> > > I mean this situation:
> > > I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
> > > to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).
> > Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?
> 
> Could you give me short example?

man 5 procfs

-Alfred



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What type of modem is it, internal/external/PNP/Brand? And what COM port,
I/O and IRQ is it on? What does dmesg say,(More below) 

10:01am@parrothd~>dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Nov  7 19:30:16 CST 1999
    parrothd@parrothd.midwest.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/PARROTHD.COM
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 46906677 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P5 (46.91-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x517  Stepping=7
  Features=0x1bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8>
real memory  = 41943040 (40960K bytes)
avail memory = 37429248 (36552K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc035d000.
Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: <Intel 82434LX (Mercury) PCI cache memory controller> rev 0x03 on
pci0.0.0
wdc0: <CMD 640B IDE> rev 0x02 int a irq 14 on pci0.1.0
chip1: <Intel 82378ZB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x03 on pci0.2.0
vga0: <Cirrus Logic GD5434 SVGA controller> rev 0x8e int a irq 10 on pci0.3.0
ed1: <NE2000 PCI Ethernet (RealTek 8029)> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.12.0
ed1: address 00:40:05:49:3a:00, type NE2000 (16 bit) 
Probing for PnP devices:
Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
sc0 on isa
sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
ed0 not found at 0x280
fe0 not found at 0x300
atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
psm0 not found
sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A

You should have something like this if your modem is on COM1, post what the
results of dmesg are.




At 01:40 PM 11/18/99 -0700, Dewey, Michael wrote:
>I'm pretty sure that I am using the right COM port (I've tried most of the
>other ones as well just to make sure).  I get the following when I type show
>modem:
>
>Name: deflink
> State:			open, no carrier
> Device:		/dev/cuaa1
> Link Type:		interactive
> Connect Count:	1
> Physical outq:	0
> Queued Packets:	0
> Phone Number:	N/A
>
>Defaults:
> Device List:		/dev/cuaa1
> Characteristics:	38400bps, cs8, no parity, CTS/RTS on
>

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:

> So, if I understand this...  you don't have
> /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/kde11 ?
> /usr/ports/lang/tclxx ?  where xx is a version number.
  Nope :)The mentioned are here but I thought the structure
  should be so as presented in http://www.fbsd.org/masterindex.html
  Were kde tcl and some other have their own directory
  Regards
  Ariel Burbaickij 
> Are there any refuse files being used by cvsup?
> What does your sup file look like?
> 
> -Chris
> P.S.  Please don't send the output of ls.. thanks.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
> > Sent:	Thursday, November 18, 1999 4:03 AM
> > To:	Christopher Michaels
> > Cc:	'Ariel Burbaickij'; FreeBSD Questions
> > Subject:	RE: cvsup ports-all question
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:
> > 
> > > How are you making the determination that you don't have the newer
> > ports.
> > > E.g. KDE, TCL, etc...?  Knowing this may help us determine what the
> > actual
> > > issue is instead of side-steping around it.
> > > 
> > > -Chris
> >   Thank you for your interest in moy trouble first of all,
> >   as to how I determine it is rather simple I just see
> >   a structure of my /usr/ports directory.As soon as
> >   I do not see subdirectories kde Tcl I guess they
> >   are not here.
> >   But if in doubt I can surely send the listing of
> >   ls -al /usr/ports along my ports-supfile if you need
> >   it.
> >   Best Regards,
> >   Ariel Burbaickij
> >   
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
> > > > Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:28 PM
> > > > To:	Alex Charalabidis
> > > > Cc:	Ariel Burbaickij; FreeBSD Questions
> > > > Subject:	Re: cvsup ports-all question
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into
> > the
> > > > > > > /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup
> > > > ports-all
> > > > > > > should be doing this automatically for every category.
> > > > > >  What does DL stand for?
> > > > > >  Regards 
> > > > > 
> > > > > DL stands for "download". You don't want to do it this way because
> > stale
> > > > > directories and patches will not be deleted, causing any number of
> > > > > problems. If you do download the tarball, you want to wipe
> > /usr/ports
> > > > > first, maybe keeping only the distfiles you expect to need, and only
> > > > then
> > > > > unpack the new one.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after
> > it?(e.g.
> > > > kde
> > > > > > > >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to
> > do
> > > > it and 
> > > > > > > >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a
> > > > question
> > > > > > > >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on
> > it
> > > > > > > >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
> > > > > > > >suggestions?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't quite get the question... cvsup'ing ports-all should leave
> > you
> > > > > with all that's new in the right place and all that's old gone (and
> > if
> > > > > it's not there, there's no port for it...). No problem and don't
> > worry,
> > > > be
> > > > > happy.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -ac
> > > >  I know what they should it was not so hard to guess :)) I even
> > > >  did not get what should be here but rather the things I got
> > > >  what I can send is the listing of my /usr/ports AFTER updating
> > > >  my ports-supfile so that you can persude yourself.
> > > >  As to actual timepoint I am missing in UPDATED tree kde Tcl
> > > >  and some other new-comers.
> > > >  As to the being happy I surely am but somehow miss the ports,though
> > > >  just post the files and listings you would like to get from me.
> > > >  PS
> > > >  MY original system was 3.2-rel so it is clear to me what came
> > > >  added later and what not
> > > >  Best Regards
> > > >  Ariel Burbaickij
> > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > ==============================================================
> > > > > Alex Charalabidis (AC8139)            5050 Poplar Ave, Ste 170
> > > > > Systems Administrator                        Memphis, TN 38157
> > > > > WebNet Memphis                                  (901) 432 6000
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> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Peter Jeremy wrote:

>This isn't technically possible.  You can't securely wipe data from a
>disk using the disks own R/W head/electronics (which is the only way
>to preserve intact files).

Why isn't it possible to read unallocated sectors and write back sectors
full of garbage, or 0xFF?
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I may be way off base with a solution here, but.... you DO know what when
you're tracking the ports for 3.x you need to track -current, not -stable,
right?

For example, I have two cvsup configuration files.  One for the sources,
one for the ports. 
In my source CVSup file, I have:

*default tag=RELENG_3

While in my CVSup.ports file I have:

*default tag=.

If you try to cvsup the ports tree with teh RELENG_3 tag in there it will
successfully wipe out all files in your /usr/ports tree.

The information on this I *believe* is on the cvsup pages on www.freesbsd.org

If I'm way off base, then feel free to ignore :)

Thanks,
John


>> So, if I understand this...  you don't have
>> /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/kde11 ?
>> /usr/ports/lang/tclxx ?  where xx is a version number.
>  Nope :)The mentioned are here but I thought the structure
>  should be so as presented in http://www.fbsd.org/masterindex.html
>  Were kde tcl and some other have their own directory
>  Regards
>  Ariel Burbaickij 
>> Are there any refuse files being used by cvsup?
>> What does your sup file look like?
>> 
>> -Chris
>> P.S.  Please don't send the output of ls.. thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
>> > Sent:	Thursday, November 18, 1999 4:03 AM
>> > To:	Christopher Michaels
>> > Cc:	'Ariel Burbaickij'; FreeBSD Questions
>> > Subject:	RE: cvsup ports-all question
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:
>> > 
>> > > How are you making the determination that you don't have the newer
>> > ports.
>> > > E.g. KDE, TCL, etc...?  Knowing this may help us determine what the
>> > actual
>> > > issue is instead of side-steping around it.
>> > > 
>> > > -Chris
>> >   Thank you for your interest in moy trouble first of all,
>> >   as to how I determine it is rather simple I just see
>> >   a structure of my /usr/ports directory.As soon as
>> >   I do not see subdirectories kde Tcl I guess they
>> >   are not here.
>> >   But if in doubt I can surely send the listing of
>> >   ls -al /usr/ports along my ports-supfile if you need
>> >   it.
>> >   Best Regards,
>> >   Ariel Burbaickij
>> >   
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
>> > > > Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:28 PM
>> > > > To:	Alex Charalabidis
>> > > > Cc:	Ariel Burbaickij; FreeBSD Questions
>> > > > Subject:	Re: cvsup ports-all question
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
>> > > > 
>> > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into
>> > the
>> > > > > > > /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup
>> > > > ports-all
>> > > > > > > should be doing this automatically for every category.
>> > > > > >  What does DL stand for?
>> > > > > >  Regards 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > DL stands for "download". You don't want to do it this way because
>> > stale
>> > > > > directories and patches will not be deleted, causing any number of
>> > > > > problems. If you do download the tarball, you want to wipe
>> > /usr/ports
>> > > > > first, maybe keeping only the distfiles you expect to need, and only
>> > > > then
>> > > > > unpack the new one.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after
>> > it?(e.g.
>> > > > kde
>> > > > > > > >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to
>> > do
>> > > > it and 
>> > > > > > > >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a
>> > > > question
>> > > > > > > >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on
>> > it
>> > > > > > > >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
>> > > > > > > >suggestions?
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > I don't quite get the question... cvsup'ing ports-all should leave
>> > you
>> > > > > with all that's new in the right place and all that's old gone (and
>> > if
>> > > > > it's not there, there's no port for it...). No problem and don't
>> > worry,
>> > > > be
>> > > > > happy.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > -ac
>> > > >  I know what they should it was not so hard to guess :)) I even
>> > > >  did not get what should be here but rather the things I got
>> > > >  what I can send is the listing of my /usr/ports AFTER updating
>> > > >  my ports-supfile so that you can persude yourself.
>> > > >  As to actual timepoint I am missing in UPDATED tree kde Tcl
>> > > >  and some other new-comers.
>> > > >  As to the being happy I surely am but somehow miss the ports,though
>> > > >  just post the files and listings you would like to get from me.
>> > > >  PS
>> > > >  MY original system was 3.2-rel so it is clear to me what came
>> > > >  added later and what not
>> > > >  Best Regards
>> > > >  Ariel Burbaickij
>> > > >  
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > -- 
>> > > > > ==============================================================
>> > > > > Alex Charalabidis (AC8139)            5050 Poplar Ave, Ste 170
>> > > > > Systems Administrator                        Memphis, TN 38157
>> > > > > WebNet Memphis                                  (901) 432 6000
>> > > > > ==============================================================
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
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Here you see output of make all install of wterm.
It is missing this particular library PropList.2?
Where does it belong to?
What should I do?
System used is fbsd 3.2

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It is a generic PCMCIA 56K modem (not a winmodem) on IO_COM2 and irq 3.  

My dmesg looks like:

sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x200
sio1: at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
sio1: type 16550A

Thanks,
Mike



> ----------
> From: 	Jonathan E. Lyons
> Sent: 	Thursday, November 18, 1999 12:57 PM
> To: 	Dewey, Michael; Dewey, Michael; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: 	RE: Terminal mode in ppp
> 
> What type of modem is it, internal/external/PNP/Brand? And what COM port,
> I/O and IRQ is it on? What does dmesg say,(More below) 
> 
> 10:01am@parrothd~>dmesg
> Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
> Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Nov  7 19:30:16 CST 1999
>     parrothd@parrothd.midwest.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/PARROTHD.COM
> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 46906677 Hz
> CPU: Pentium/P5 (46.91-MHz 586-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x517  Stepping=7
>   Features=0x1bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8>
> real memory  = 41943040 (40960K bytes)
> avail memory = 37429248 (36552K bytes)
> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc035d000.
> Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
> chip0: <Intel 82434LX (Mercury) PCI cache memory controller> rev 0x03 on
> pci0.0.0
> wdc0: <CMD 640B IDE> rev 0x02 int a irq 14 on pci0.1.0
> chip1: <Intel 82378ZB PCI to ISA bridge> rev 0x03 on pci0.2.0
> vga0: <Cirrus Logic GD5434 SVGA controller> rev 0x8e int a irq 10 on
> pci0.3.0
> ed1: <NE2000 PCI Ethernet (RealTek 8029)> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on
> pci0.12.0
> ed1: address 00:40:05:49:3a:00, type NE2000 (16 bit) 
> Probing for PnP devices:
> Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
> sc0 on isa
> sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
> ed0 not found at 0x280
> fe0 not found at 0x300
> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
> atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
> psm0 not found
> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
> sio0: type 16550A
> 
> You should have something like this if your modem is on COM1, post what
> the
> results of dmesg are.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 01:40 PM 11/18/99 -0700, Dewey, Michael wrote:
> >I'm pretty sure that I am using the right COM port (I've tried most of
> the
> >other ones as well just to make sure).  I get the following when I type
> show
> >modem:
> >
> >Name: deflink
> > State:			open, no carrier
> > Device:		/dev/cuaa1
> > Link Type:		interactive
> > Connect Count:	1
> > Physical outq:	0
> > Queued Packets:	0
> > Phone Number:	N/A
> >
> >Defaults:
> > Device List:		/dev/cuaa1
> > Characteristics:	38400bps, cs8, no parity, CTS/RTS on
> >
> 
> Jonathan E. Lyons 			
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:

> obliterate only wipes the one file you specify.. i want to wipe all
> the free space on the disk, without damaging good intact files on it,
> linux has a progrtam called wipe that does this, now ill ask again is
> there something similiar for freebsd

Have you considered the problem from this angle?  Presumably you had
sensitive information in a file on the disk at some point.  Instead of
trying to "securely" remove all traces of files when they're gone, what
about using something like CFS (in /usr/ports/security/cfs) for all of
these sensitive files to start with?  That way, when the files are gone,
even if someone did manage to obtain some salvaged remnants they could not
be used to yield useful information.  That seems much more secure than
even the best "secure deletion" or "disk wiping" programs.

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> Why isn't it possible to read unallocated sectors and write back sectors
> full of garbage, or 0xFF?

this was the topic of a recent thread on comp.security.unix:

http://x44.deja.com/viewthread.xp?AN=542077498&search=thread&svcclass=dncurrent&ST=PS&CONTEXT=942959294.75104298&HIT_CONTEXT=942959294.75104298&HIT_NUM=0&recnum=%3caziS3.1656$4G.29

peter gutmann's excellent paper from the 6th USENIX security symposium is
probably the definitive answer:

	http://www.fish.com/security/secure_del.html

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, John wrote:

> I may be way off base with a solution here, but.... you DO know what when
> you're tracking the ports for 3.x you need to track -current, not -stable,
> right?
> 
> For example, I have two cvsup configuration files.  One for the sources,
> one for the ports. 
> In my source CVSup file, I have:
  Nope what have i used is file in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
  dedicated specially for ports.
  Regards,
  Ariel Burbiackij 
> *default tag=RELENG_3
> 
> While in my CVSup.ports file I have:
> 
> *default tag=.
> 
> If you try to cvsup the ports tree with teh RELENG_3 tag in there it will
> successfully wipe out all files in your /usr/ports tree.
> 
> The information on this I *believe* is on the cvsup pages on www.freesbsd.org
> 
> If I'm way off base, then feel free to ignore :)
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 
> 
> >> So, if I understand this...  you don't have
> >> /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/kde11 ?
> >> /usr/ports/lang/tclxx ?  where xx is a version number.
> >  Nope :)The mentioned are here but I thought the structure
> >  should be so as presented in http://www.fbsd.org/masterindex.html
> >  Were kde tcl and some other have their own directory
> >  Regards
> >  Ariel Burbaickij 
> >> Are there any refuse files being used by cvsup?
> >> What does your sup file look like?
> >> 
> >> -Chris
> >> P.S.  Please don't send the output of ls.. thanks.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
> >> > Sent:	Thursday, November 18, 1999 4:03 AM
> >> > To:	Christopher Michaels
> >> > Cc:	'Ariel Burbaickij'; FreeBSD Questions
> >> > Subject:	RE: cvsup ports-all question
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > How are you making the determination that you don't have the newer
> >> > ports.
> >> > > E.g. KDE, TCL, etc...?  Knowing this may help us determine what the
> >> > actual
> >> > > issue is instead of side-steping around it.
> >> > > 
> >> > > -Chris
> >> >   Thank you for your interest in moy trouble first of all,
> >> >   as to how I determine it is rather simple I just see
> >> >   a structure of my /usr/ports directory.As soon as
> >> >   I do not see subdirectories kde Tcl I guess they
> >> >   are not here.
> >> >   But if in doubt I can surely send the listing of
> >> >   ls -al /usr/ports along my ports-supfile if you need
> >> >   it.
> >> >   Best Regards,
> >> >   Ariel Burbaickij
> >> >   
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
> >> > > > Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:28 PM
> >> > > > To:	Alex Charalabidis
> >> > > > Cc:	Ariel Burbaickij; FreeBSD Questions
> >> > > > Subject:	Re: cvsup ports-all question
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> >> > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it into
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > > /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the cvsup
> >> > > > ports-all
> >> > > > > > > should be doing this automatically for every category.
> >> > > > > >  What does DL stand for?
> >> > > > > >  Regards 
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > DL stands for "download". You don't want to do it this way because
> >> > stale
> >> > > > > directories and patches will not be deleted, causing any number of
> >> > > > > problems. If you do download the tarball, you want to wipe
> >> > /usr/ports
> >> > > > > first, maybe keeping only the distfiles you expect to need, and only
> >> > > > then
> >> > > > > unpack the new one.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after
> >> > it?(e.g.
> >> > > > kde
> >> > > > > > > >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I tried to
> >> > do
> >> > > > it and 
> >> > > > > > > >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not a
> >> > > > question
> >> > > > > > > >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious on
> >> > it
> >> > > > > > > >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them not.Any 
> >> > > > > > > >suggestions?
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > I don't quite get the question... cvsup'ing ports-all should leave
> >> > you
> >> > > > > with all that's new in the right place and all that's old gone (and
> >> > if
> >> > > > > it's not there, there's no port for it...). No problem and don't
> >> > worry,
> >> > > > be
> >> > > > > happy.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > -ac
> >> > > >  I know what they should it was not so hard to guess :)) I even
> >> > > >  did not get what should be here but rather the things I got
> >> > > >  what I can send is the listing of my /usr/ports AFTER updating
> >> > > >  my ports-supfile so that you can persude yourself.
> >> > > >  As to actual timepoint I am missing in UPDATED tree kde Tcl
> >> > > >  and some other new-comers.
> >> > > >  As to the being happy I surely am but somehow miss the ports,though
> >> > > >  just post the files and listings you would like to get from me.
> >> > > >  PS
> >> > > >  MY original system was 3.2-rel so it is clear to me what came
> >> > > >  added later and what not
> >> > > >  Best Regards
> >> > > >  Ariel Burbaickij
> >> > > >  
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > -- 
> >> > > > > ==============================================================
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Mark Ovens wrote:

> ISTR that the 2-letter country codes are from an ISO standard that
> defines agreed standard data about territories officially recoginized
> as independent countries - or something along those lines. Not sure
> what the ISO no. is though.

You are of course correct. It's ISO 639, and lives on a FreeBSD
system near you under /usr/share/misc. (I looked at ISO 3166 (in
/usr/share/misc too), which didn't have China as zh, but I didn't bother
looking at the other one.)

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What are you most concerned with, the NFS server reboot or the stale file
handle on the NFS clients? They're two different problems. I'd focus on the
first.

Any time FreeBSD spontaneously reboots and it isn't a hardware problem then
it's probably a kernel bug.

You don't mention which version of FreeBSD, which NFS version (1 or 2), or
the transport (TCP or UDP) you're using. That information is necessary to
reproduce the problem.

If you can provide a very detailed description of the problem (including OS
versions on both sides, NFS export configuration, NFS mount options,
automounter configuration, description of the type of file access the client
is doing, sample client code which always crashes the NFS server, etc.),
then you should send it to freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg [mailto:admin@fastserve.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 8:45 AM
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: MFS through NFS


Hello freebsd-questions,

  I run a server cluster that does allot of logging across NFS to an
  MFS drive. The problem is once in a while the server with the MFS
  drive reboots for no apparent reason. When it comes back up the
  other servers get a stale nfs handle and do not perform the auto remount
routine like
  they would an ordinary drive.
  The nfs mounts are mounted with the bg options. They are supposed to
  fork off a child process and remount automatically as soon as the
  server comes back up.
    Is there some kind of option or switch I am missing in this
    configuration?

    Any information would be much appreciated.

    Thanks




                
                 
                 
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Nov 18 13:21:31 1999
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One more thing, before you do anything else you should attempt to prove to
yourself that this isn't a hardware problem. I implied that in my initial
response, but thought I should explicitly state it.

What happens if you put all-new memory in the server machine? Is this
reproducible on another machine?

Charles

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Subject: RE: MFS through NFS


What are you most concerned with, the NFS server reboot or the stale file
handle on the NFS clients? They're two different problems. I'd focus on the
first.

Any time FreeBSD spontaneously reboots and it isn't a hardware problem then
it's probably a kernel bug.

You don't mention which version of FreeBSD, which NFS version (1 or 2), or
the transport (TCP or UDP) you're using. That information is necessary to
reproduce the problem.

If you can provide a very detailed description of the problem (including OS
versions on both sides, NFS export configuration, NFS mount options,
automounter configuration, description of the type of file access the client
is doing, sample client code which always crashes the NFS server, etc.),
then you should send it to freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg [mailto:admin@fastserve.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 8:45 AM
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: MFS through NFS


Hello freebsd-questions,

  I run a server cluster that does allot of logging across NFS to an
  MFS drive. The problem is once in a while the server with the MFS
  drive reboots for no apparent reason. When it comes back up the
  other servers get a stale nfs handle and do not perform the auto remount
routine like
  they would an ordinary drive.
  The nfs mounts are mounted with the bg options. They are supposed to
  fork off a child process and remount automatically as soon as the
  server comes back up.
    Is there some kind of option or switch I am missing in this
    configuration?

    Any information would be much appreciated.

    Thanks




                
                 
                 
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 Greg                          mailto:admin@fastserve.net

               Fastserve Network
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Hello,

I'm trying to use my FBSD box in a network consisting
exclusively of windows machines. We run NT
server/proxy server in order to do DHCP and
IP-aliasing for the entire internal network. Each
windows client has the MS Proxy Client program on
them, which obviously doesn't work with FreeBSD. I
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fine, but Netscape doesn't, even when I set the proxy
to the NT machine. It loads the home page on the
server no matter which address or IP number i tell it
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Has anyone had luck with this sort of thing?
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It *is* possible to write back garbage or 0xFF.  The problem is that no
matter how much you write over it, if someone *really* wants your data,
they can get it (with physical access to the drive, of course).  If
destroying the drive is a problem, you either need to re-phrase the
question to be, "what is the most secure way to obliterate files on
FreeBSD, that still leaves the drive/filesystem intact?", or convince
yourself to be happy with the level of security you get with over-writing.


At 04:04 PM 11/18/99 , you wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Peter Jeremy wrote:
>
>>This isn't technically possible.  You can't securely wipe data from a
>>disk using the disks own R/W head/electronics (which is the only way
>>to preserve intact files).
>
>Why isn't it possible to read unallocated sectors and write back sectors
>full of garbage, or 0xFF?
>-jm
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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:47:36PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at 23:28:46 +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:23:24PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>>>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
> >>>> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
> >>>> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
> >>> I mean this situation:
> >>> I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
> >>> to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).
> >> Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?
> > Could you give me short example?
> OK, here's copyme.c:
> 
> #include <fcntl.h>
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <string.h>
> #include <sys/stat.h>
> 
> extern int errno;
> 
> main (int argc, char *argv [])
> {
[skip]
>   }
> 
> And here's what happens when I run it:
> 
>  $ copyme foo
>  $ cmp copyme foo 
>  $ ls -l copyme foo 
>  -rwxrwxrwx  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 copyme
>  -r--------  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 foo
>  $ 
> 
> Not much use, is it?  Was that your class assignment?

Heh, and now put it into PATH...
and

$ copyme foo
Can't open copyme: No such file or directory

Everything is not that easy.

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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Nov 18 13:31: 8 1999
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I don't mean to be sarcastic.  But what is
http://www.fbsd.org/masterindex.html supposed to point to?!?!  Assuming this
is http://www.FreeBSD.org/masterindex.html that doesn't even exist.

AH.. you meant http://www/FreeBSD.org/ports/master-index.html.  Next time
you should say exactly what you mean.  But, despite that.  the master index
is literally a list of every single available port.  They are not organized
in categories or anything.

The actual structure is better mirrored by just
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/index.html.


The next time you are having trouble finding a port try doing the following:

	cd /usr/ports
	make search key=<whatever you are searching for>  (e.g. make search
key=kde)

-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
> Sent:	Thursday, November 18, 1999 4:01 PM
> To:	Christopher Michaels
> Cc:	'Ariel Burbaickij'; FreeBSD Questions
> Subject:	RE: cvsup ports-all question
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:
> 
> > So, if I understand this...  you don't have
> > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/kde11 ?
> > /usr/ports/lang/tclxx ?  where xx is a version number.
>   Nope :)The mentioned are here but I thought the structure
>   should be so as presented in http://www.fbsd.org/masterindex.html
>   Were kde tcl and some other have their own directory
>   Regards
>   Ariel Burbaickij 
> > Are there any refuse files being used by cvsup?
> > What does your sup file look like?
> > 
> > -Chris
> > P.S.  Please don't send the output of ls.. thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
> > > Sent:	Thursday, November 18, 1999 4:03 AM
> > > To:	Christopher Michaels
> > > Cc:	'Ariel Burbaickij'; FreeBSD Questions
> > > Subject:	RE: cvsup ports-all question
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:
> > > 
> > > > How are you making the determination that you don't have the newer
> > > ports.
> > > > E.g. KDE, TCL, etc...?  Knowing this may help us determine what the
> > > actual
> > > > issue is instead of side-steping around it.
> > > > 
> > > > -Chris
> > >   Thank you for your interest in moy trouble first of all,
> > >   as to how I determine it is rather simple I just see
> > >   a structure of my /usr/ports directory.As soon as
> > >   I do not see subdirectories kde Tcl I guess they
> > >   are not here.
> > >   But if in doubt I can surely send the listing of
> > >   ls -al /usr/ports along my ports-supfile if you need
> > >   it.
> > >   Best Regards,
> > >   Ariel Burbaickij
> > >   
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:	Ariel Burbaickij [SMTP:Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de]
> > > > > Sent:	Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:28 PM
> > > > > To:	Alex Charalabidis
> > > > > Cc:	Ariel Burbaickij; FreeBSD Questions
> > > > > Subject:	Re: cvsup ports-all question
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Alex Charalabidis wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I would regularly DL the tarball of all ports and untar it
> into
> > > the
> > > > > > > > /usr/ports directory.  It should be up to date.  But the
> cvsup
> > > > > ports-all
> > > > > > > > should be doing this automatically for every category.
> > > > > > >  What does DL stand for?
> > > > > > >  Regards 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > DL stands for "download". You don't want to do it this way
> because
> > > stale
> > > > > > directories and patches will not be deleted, causing any number
> of
> > > > > > problems. If you do download the tarball, you want to wipe
> > > /usr/ports
> > > > > > first, maybe keeping only the distfiles you expect to need, and
> only
> > > > > then
> > > > > > unpack the new one.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >How can I cvsup ports-all so that I have new entries after
> > > it?(e.g.
> > > > > kde
> > > > > > > > >Tck and so on). As you might guess from the question I
> tried to
> > > do
> > > > > it and 
> > > > > > > > >had no luck(special notice to Mr Lehey Yes I know it is not
> a
> > > > > question
> > > > > > > > >of luck buto of knowledge I lack :) )The somehow mysterious
> on
> > > it
> > > > > > > > >I got some new entries (irc ftp java) and some of them
> not.Any 
> > > > > > > > >suggestions?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't quite get the question... cvsup'ing ports-all should
> leave
> > > you
> > > > > > with all that's new in the right place and all that's old gone
> (and
> > > if
> > > > > > it's not there, there's no port for it...). No problem and don't
> > > worry,
> > > > > be
> > > > > > happy.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -ac
> > > > >  I know what they should it was not so hard to guess :)) I even
> > > > >  did not get what should be here but rather the things I got
> > > > >  what I can send is the listing of my /usr/ports AFTER updating
> > > > >  my ports-supfile so that you can persude yourself.
> > > > >  As to actual timepoint I am missing in UPDATED tree kde Tcl
> > > > >  and some other new-comers.
> > > > >  As to the being happy I surely am but somehow miss the
> ports,though
> > > > >  just post the files and listings you would like to get from me.
> > > > >  PS
> > > > >  MY original system was 3.2-rel so it is clear to me what came
> > > > >  added later and what not
> > > > >  Best Regards
> > > > >  Ariel Burbaickij
> > > > >  
> > > > > > 
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> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 01:19:52PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:23:24PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
> > > >>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
> > > >> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
> > > >> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
> > > > I mean this situation:
> > > > I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
> > > > to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).
> > > Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?
> > Could you give me short example?
> man 5 procfs

You mean /proc/<pid>/file?
First, i heard this got removed in -CURRENT. And second look at this dump:
   481 ktrace   RET   ktrace 0
   481 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfdc9f,0xbfbfdbc4,0xbfbfdbcc)
   481 ktrace   NAMI  "./hellow"
   481 hellow   RET   execve 0
   481 hellow   CALL  getpid
   481 hellow   RET   getpid 481/0x1e1
   481 hellow   CALL  open(0xbfbfdb64,0,0)
   481 hellow   NAMI  "/compat/linux/proc/481/exe"
   481 hellow   NAMI  "/proc/481/exe"
   481 hellow   RET   open JUSTRETURN
   481 hellow   CALL  old.lseek(0xfffffffe,0x688,0)
   481 hellow   RET   old.lseek -1 errno -9 Unknown error: -9
   481 hellow   CALL  exit(0x7f)

Where's the error?

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I just skimmed the document that was referred to me on security.  I see
now that there are many ways of extracting that low-level residual data.
But you would really need to have data someone REALLY wants for them to be
willing to try most of those techniques.  Frankly, if the deleted data is
that critical, I would backup the drive, buy a new one (they are cheap
enough these days) and restore from tape.  Then use the old one as a
doorstop or melt it down somewhere.


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I have 2 U/W SCSI disks and the boot probe only shows "Tagged
Queueing Enabled" for the second one, but ``camcontrol inquiry''
shows it for both. Is this a bug, and if so where?

marder-1# dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #2: Sun Oct 17 20:05:39 BST 1999
    root@marder-1:/usr/src/sys/compile/MARDER-1
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 233864923 Hz
CPU: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions (233.86-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x562  Stepping = 2
  Features=0x8001bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX>
  AMD Features=0x400<<b10>>
real memory  = 67108864 (65536K bytes)

[snip]

Waiting 10 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
changing root device to da0s3a
cd0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
cd0: <TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6201TA 1030> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 16)
cd0: cd present [209800 x 2048 byte records]
da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <IBM DCAS-34330W S65A> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit)
da0: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C)
da1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 8 lun 0
da1: <IBM DDRS-34560W S97B> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C)

marder-1# camcontrol inquiry da0
pass0: <IBM DCAS-34330W S65A> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
pass0: Serial Number F3TM9437
pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled

marder-1# ^0^1
camcontrol inquiry da1
pass2: <IBM DDRS-34560W S97B> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
pass2: Serial Number RDFJ4884
pass2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled

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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 01:06:38PM -0700, Dewey, Michael wrote:
> I am still trying to get my modem to work, but when I enter terminal mode in
> ppp, none of my keystrokes (or any of the replies from the modem) are echoed
> to the terminal.  Does anybody know what could be causing this?  Please let
> my know what information about my system configuration would be helpful.
> 

Are you getting the ``term'' prompt?

	ppp ON marder-1> term
	deflink: Entering terminal mode on /dev/cuaa2
	Type `~?' for help
	[]

If you're just getting:

	ppp ON marder-1> term
	[]

with the cursor sitting there then it can't find your modem.


> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> 
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Barrett Richardson wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, David G Andersen wrote:
> 
> > This thread was discussed in *agonizing* length about 6 months or a year
> > ago.  You might want to check the archive, at:
> >
> >   http://www.freebsd.org/search/
> >
> > Lots of good solutions and advice, and lots of bad, were discussed.  But
> > it's all there for you to peruse...
> >
> 
> The thread was "Secure deletion". There is a handy prog in Message-ID
>   <378A58EA.ACF1412F@softweyr.com>

Or ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/s/softweyr/pub/obliterate-0.3.tgz
if you prefer.  I swear I'm going to wrap a port-kit around this and
commit it one of these days.  Honest!

Actually, this afternoon is looking good for that.

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Hmmm...

Works for me, make sure that you can ping the inside IP address of the
proxy server, and then enter that address & port 80 in the proxy server
settings for netscape. I'm surprised to hear that telnet worked, was that
just locally? I personaly HATE ms proxy server, and bypass the whole thing
whenever possible.. :)


(and to think I took proxy as one of my electives for the mcse..heheh)

At 01:26 PM 11/18/99 -0800, Luke Bakken wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm trying to use my FBSD box in a network consisting
>exclusively of windows machines. We run NT
>server/proxy server in order to do DHCP and
>IP-aliasing for the entire internal network. Each
>windows client has the MS Proxy Client program on
>them, which obviously doesn't work with FreeBSD. I
>can't set the hostname for the machine since it
>doesn't have a traditional 'hostname' in this
>scenario. When I run programs like telnet, it works
>fine, but Netscape doesn't, even when I set the proxy
>to the NT machine. It loads the home page on the
>server no matter which address or IP number i tell it
>to use.


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I get a term prompt:

ppp ON myname> term
deflink: Entering terminal mode on /dev/cuaa1
Type `~?' for help

but after that I can't see anything (except for the output generated by the
~ commands)

Mike

> ----------
> From: 	Mark Ovens
> Sent: 	Thursday, November 18, 1999 1:00 PM
> To: 	Dewey, Michael
> Cc: 	'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
> Subject: 	Re: Terminal mode in ppp
> 
> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 01:06:38PM -0700, Dewey, Michael wrote:
> > I am still trying to get my modem to work, but when I enter terminal
> mode in
> > ppp, none of my keystrokes (or any of the replies from the modem) are
> echoed
> > to the terminal.  Does anybody know what could be causing this?  Please
> let
> > my know what information about my system configuration would be helpful.
> > 
> 
> Are you getting the ``term'' prompt?
> 
> 	ppp ON marder-1> term
> 	deflink: Entering terminal mode on /dev/cuaa2
> 	Type `~?' for help
> 	[]
> 
> If you're just getting:
> 
> 	ppp ON marder-1> term
> 	[]
> 
> with the cursor sitting there then it can't find your modem.
> 
> 
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > 
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If we could have a quote of the week, I think this would be it!  :)
-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Peter Jeremy [SMTP:jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au]
> Sent:	Thursday, November 18, 1999 3:52 PM
> To:	TrouBle
> Cc:	security@FreeBSD.ORG; questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject:	Re: secure filesystem wiping
> 
> On 1999-Nov-18 16:44:28 +1100, TrouBle wrote:
> >obliterate only wipes the one file you specify.. i want to wipe all the
> >free space on the disk, without damaging good intact files on it,
> 
> This isn't technically possible.  You can't securely wipe data from a
> disk using the disks own R/W head/electronics (which is the only way
> to preserve intact files).
> 
> I'd suggest the following:
> 1) Copy wanted files to another disk.
> 2) Wipe unwanted files off original disk using one of the following:
>   a) Raise temperature of entire disk drive to >>1000 degrees, stir
>      well and (optionally) add plenty of oxygen.  Cool and pulverise.
>   b) Open drive housing and gently manicure each platter with an
>      angle grinder.
> 
> > linux
> >has a progrtam called wipe that does this,
> 
> Not securely.
> 
> >> The thread was "Secure deletion". There is a handy prog in Message-ID
> >>   <378A58EA.ACF1412F@softweyr.com>
> 
> You can specify a disk partition instead of a file if you want.
> 
> Peter


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will you all take a look at this, this is what i am looking for!!


Wipe is a tool that effectively degauses the surface of a hard
disk, making it virtually impossible to retrieve the data that was
stored on it. This is the ultimate in making sure secure data that is
erased from a hard drive is unrecoverable.

wipe by Tom Vier <thomassr@erols.com>
Wipe is a secure file wiping utility. However, it does not set the
media access bit on scsi commands, therefore it is not 100% secure,
unless your drive has no write cache. For maximum security, disable
drive write cache on scsi mode page 8. If possible, disable operating
system file cache and driver-level buffers. Wipe tries to sync the
data to disk via a call to fdatasync(), fsync(), or using
O_SYNC. Under linux, the mount option "mand" must be used (see
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/mandatory.txt) for mandatory file locks
to be enabled. Wipe should make it extremely difficult for all but the
most determined person(s) to recover the original plaintext
data. Utilities such as PGP and the GNU Privacy Guard provide strong
encryption, but encryption is useless if the original plaintext can be
recovered.
Wipe uses /dev/urandom, or if unavailable, /dev/random, as a source
for entropy. The tiger hash is used for speed. More information on the
tiger hash algorithm is at:
http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~biham/Reports/Tiger/



> 
> Or ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/s/softweyr/pub/obliterate-0.3.tgz
> if you prefer.  I swear I'm going to wrap a port-kit around this and
> commit it one of these days.  Honest!
> 
> Actually, this afternoon is looking good for that.
> 
> Comments, jeers, applause, and especially money to wes@softweyr.com.  ;^)

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You're using the PAO kernel for PCMCIA right???

At 02:11 PM 11/18/99 -0700, Dewey, Michael wrote:
>It is a generic PCMCIA 56K modem (not a winmodem) on IO_COM2 and irq 3.  
>
>My dmesg looks like:
>
>sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa
>sio0: type 16550A
>sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x200
>sio1: at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa
>sio1: type 16550A
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Ugh...hehehe....

So when you type at&f and hit return you get and "ok"??

Then you just need to modify your init string for the modem, look in the
book and look for echo, and turn it on, or you can try;

AT&F0
or
AT&F1
or 
AT&F2 

and see if the factory default init strings solve the problem...
 


At 02:56 PM 11/18/99 -0700, Dewey, Michael wrote:
>I get a term prompt:
>
>ppp ON myname> term
>deflink: Entering terminal mode on /dev/cuaa1
>Type `~?' for help
>
>but after that I can't see anything (except for the output generated by the
>~ commands)
>
>Mike
>
>> ----------
>> From: 	Mark Ovens
>> Sent: 	Thursday, November 18, 1999 1:00 PM
>> To: 	Dewey, Michael
>> Cc: 	'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
>> Subject: 	Re: Terminal mode in ppp
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 01:06:38PM -0700, Dewey, Michael wrote:
>> > I am still trying to get my modem to work, but when I enter terminal
>> mode in
>> > ppp, none of my keystrokes (or any of the replies from the modem) are
>> echoed
>> > to the terminal.  Does anybody know what could be causing this?  Please
>> let
>> > my know what information about my system configuration would be helpful.
>> > 
>> 
>> Are you getting the ``term'' prompt?
>> 
>> 	ppp ON marder-1> term
>> 	deflink: Entering terminal mode on /dev/cuaa2
>> 	Type `~?' for help
>> 	[]
>> 
>> If you're just getting:
>> 
>> 	ppp ON marder-1> term
>> 	[]
>> 
>> with the cursor sitting there then it can't find your modem.
>> 
>> 
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mike
>> > 
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

> Here you see output of make all install of wterm.
> It is missing this particular library PropList.2?
> Where does it belong to?
> What should I do?
> System used is fbsd 3.2
> 
> Any additional questions towarded to clear the situation for you are
> welcome

try "make reinstall" it seems that the port thinks it has installed
itself (LibPropList) but yet it hasn't.

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On Friday, 19 November 1999 at  0:27:59 +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:47:36PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at 23:28:46 +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:23:24PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>>>>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
>>>>>> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
>>>>>> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
>>>>> I mean this situation:
>>>>> I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
>>>>> to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).
>>>> Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?
>>> Could you give me short example?
>> OK, here's copyme.c:
>>
>> #include <fcntl.h>
>> #include <stdio.h>
>> #include <string.h>
>> #include <sys/stat.h>
>>
>> extern int errno;
>>
>> main (int argc, char *argv [])
>> {
> [skip]
>>   }
>>
>> And here's what happens when I run it:
>>
>>  $ copyme foo
>>  $ cmp copyme foo
>>  $ ls -l copyme foo
>>  -rwxrwxrwx  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 copyme
>>  -r--------  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 foo
>>  $
>>
>> Not much use, is it?  Was that your class assignment?
>
> Heh, and now put it into PATH...
> and
>
> $ copyme foo
> Can't open copyme: No such file or directory
>
> Everything is not that easy.

That wasn't the question.  But it can be fixed.  How about you doing
it?

Greg
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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 05:23:15PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>>>>>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
> >>>>>> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
> >>>>>> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
> >>>>> I mean this situation:
> >>>>> I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
> >>>>> to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).
> >>>> Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?
> >>> Could you give me short example?
> >> OK, here's copyme.c:
[skip]
> >> And here's what happens when I run it:
> >>  $ copyme foo
> >>  $ cmp copyme foo
> >>  $ ls -l copyme foo
> >>  -rwxrwxrwx  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 copyme
> >>  -r--------  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 foo
> >>  $
> >> Not much use, is it?  Was that your class assignment?
> > Heh, and now put it into PATH...
> > and
> > $ copyme foo
> > Can't open copyme: No such file or directory
> > Everything is not that easy.
> That wasn't the question.  But it can be fixed.  How about you doing
> it?

If i knew how to do it, i didn't came here.

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Friday, 19 November 1999 at  0:27:59 +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:47:36PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >> On Thursday, 18 November 1999 at 23:28:46 +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:23:24PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>>>>>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
> >>>>>> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
> >>>>>> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
> >>>>> I mean this situation:
> >>>>> I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
> >>>>> to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).
> >>>> Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?
> >>> Could you give me short example?
> >> OK, here's copyme.c:
> >>
> >> #include <fcntl.h>
> >> #include <stdio.h>
> >> #include <string.h>
> >> #include <sys/stat.h>
> >>
> >> extern int errno;
> >>
> >> main (int argc, char *argv [])
> >> {
> > [skip]
> >>   }
> >>
> >> And here's what happens when I run it:
> >>
> >>  $ copyme foo
> >>  $ cmp copyme foo
> >>  $ ls -l copyme foo
> >>  -rwxrwxrwx  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 copyme
> >>  -r--------  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 foo
> >>  $
> >>
> >> Not much use, is it?  Was that your class assignment?
> >
> > Heh, and now put it into PATH...
> > and
> >
> > $ copyme foo
> > Can't open copyme: No such file or directory
> >
> > Everything is not that easy.
> 
> That wasn't the question.  But it can be fixed.  How about you doing
> it?

I think procfs would be even more helpful (unless the 'file' is still
done, or is it?)  You guys should have gotten my profs suggestion
but someone obviously dropped cc lines.  *sigh*

And Greg is definetly right, you should be able to look around to
solve this problem, if the problem is then PATH, then searching
the path is what you need to do, but I still think procfs offers
what you need.

man 5 procfs.

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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 02:54:21PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> I think procfs would be even more helpful (unless the 'file' is still
> done, or is it?)  You guys should have gotten my profs suggestion
> but someone obviously dropped cc lines.  *sigh*
> 
> And Greg is definetly right, you should be able to look around to
> solve this problem, if the problem is then PATH, then searching
> the path is what you need to do, but I still think procfs offers
> what you need.
> 
> man 5 procfs.

Look a this dump:
   481 ktrace   RET   ktrace 0
   481 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfdc9f,0xbfbfdbc4,0xbfbfdbcc)
   481 ktrace   NAMI  "./hellow"
   481 hellow   RET   execve 0
   481 hellow   CALL  getpid
   481 hellow   RET   getpid 481/0x1e1
   481 hellow   CALL  open(0xbfbfdb64,0,0)
   481 hellow   NAMI  "/compat/linux/proc/481/exe"
   481 hellow   NAMI  "/proc/481/exe"
   481 hellow   RET   open JUSTRETURN
   481 hellow   CALL  old.lseek(0xfffffffe,0x688,0)
   481 hellow   RET   old.lseek -1 errno -9 Unknown error: -9
   481 hellow   CALL  exit(0x7f)

I just don't know why lseek fails.

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From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To: TrouBle <trouble@netquick.net>
Cc: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>,
	Barrett Richardson <barrett@phoenix.aye.net>,
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:

> will you all take a look at this, this is what i am looking for!!
> 
> 
> Wipe is a tool that effectively degauses the surface of a hard
> disk, making it virtually impossible to retrieve the data that was
> stored on it. This is the ultimate in making sure secure data that is
> erased from a hard drive is unrecoverable.

This is a load of BS, as Wes pointed out, there isn't a trully
secure way to wipe files, all this program does is repeatedly
re-write over the data, depending on the underlying filesystem it
may not even be doing that (BSD LFS).

The most amusing part of the program is the ridiculous steps
you must take to make sure Linux _really really really_ is using
sync writing...

I suggest using some sort of accellerant and sticking it near
your drive with a fuse.

As always, backups are a good idea however that would sort of
negate the whole idea of blowing up the drive.

Your best bet is strong encryption, perhaps with cfs (in ports).

And as always, please don't cross-post.

-Alfred


> 
> wipe by Tom Vier <thomassr@erols.com>
> Wipe is a secure file wiping utility. However, it does not set the
> media access bit on scsi commands, therefore it is not 100% secure,
> unless your drive has no write cache. For maximum security, disable
> drive write cache on scsi mode page 8. If possible, disable operating
> system file cache and driver-level buffers. Wipe tries to sync the
> data to disk via a call to fdatasync(), fsync(), or using
> O_SYNC. Under linux, the mount option "mand" must be used (see
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/mandatory.txt) for mandatory file locks
> to be enabled. Wipe should make it extremely difficult for all but the
> most determined person(s) to recover the original plaintext
> data. Utilities such as PGP and the GNU Privacy Guard provide strong
> encryption, but encryption is useless if the original plaintext can be
> recovered.
> Wipe uses /dev/urandom, or if unavailable, /dev/random, as a source
> for entropy. The tiger hash is used for speed. More information on the
> tiger hash algorithm is at:
> http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~biham/Reports/Tiger/
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Or ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/s/softweyr/pub/obliterate-0.3.tgz
> > if you prefer.  I swear I'm going to wrap a port-kit around this and
> > commit it one of these days.  Honest!
> > 
> > Actually, this afternoon is looking good for that.
> > 
> > Comments, jeers, applause, and especially money to wes@softweyr.com.  ;^)
> 
> Windows 95 (win-DOH-z), n. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical
> shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system
> originally coded for a four bit microprocessor which was used in a PC
> built by a formerly two bit company that couldn't stand one bit of
> competition.



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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 02:54:21PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > I think procfs would be even more helpful (unless the 'file' is still
> > done, or is it?)  You guys should have gotten my profs suggestion
> > but someone obviously dropped cc lines.  *sigh*
> > 
> > And Greg is definetly right, you should be able to look around to
> > solve this problem, if the problem is then PATH, then searching
> > the path is what you need to do, but I still think procfs offers
> > what you need.
> > 
> > man 5 procfs.
> 
> Look a this dump:
>    481 ktrace   RET   ktrace 0
>    481 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfdc9f,0xbfbfdbc4,0xbfbfdbcc)
>    481 ktrace   NAMI  "./hellow"
>    481 hellow   RET   execve 0
>    481 hellow   CALL  getpid
>    481 hellow   RET   getpid 481/0x1e1
>    481 hellow   CALL  open(0xbfbfdb64,0,0)
>    481 hellow   NAMI  "/compat/linux/proc/481/exe"
>    481 hellow   NAMI  "/proc/481/exe"
>    481 hellow   RET   open JUSTRETURN
>    481 hellow   CALL  old.lseek(0xfffffffe,0x688,0)
>    481 hellow   RET   old.lseek -1 errno -9 Unknown error: -9
>    481 hellow   CALL  exit(0x7f)
> 
> I just don't know why lseek fails.

I don't know either, perhaps the source to this errant program
would be helpful?

This looks like a Linux program, just what are you trying to by
opening 'exe'?  You obviously didn't read the procfs manpage, please
do read it and then follow up.

And please stop dropping cc lines on these emails!  other people
trying to help you more than likely won't see these postings and
just repeat the same steps I'm trying to get you to follow.

thank you,
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:

> i appreciate all the help, but this is not what im looking for... i want
> to WIPE freespace on the disk
> 
> obliterate only wipes the one file you specify.. i want to wipe all the
> free space on the disk, without damaging good intact files on it, linux
> has a progrtam called wipe that does this, now ill ask again is there  
> something similiar for freebsd

and later on Thu, 18 Nov 1999, TrouBle wrote:

> will you all take a look at this, this is what i am looking for!!
> 
> Wipe is a secure file wiping utility.
>
> Wipe uses /dev/urandom, or if unavailable, /dev/random, as a source
> for entropy.

So which is it?  In one message, you're asking for a program that wipes
all the free space on a drive and claim that wipe does this on Linux and
that obliterate on FreeBSD just wipes files.  Then, in the next message,
you claim that wipe on Linux is a "secure file wiping utility" and that
somehow the FreeBSD suggestions you've been given are inadequate.  Huh?

We've seen means posted of overwriting a single file or remaining disk
space (by filling all free space with a dummy file containing garbage)
with both /dev/zero and /dev/urandom, so doesn't that answer your
question?

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Maybe it's time to ask:

What programming language are you using?

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:28:46 +0300 Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:23:24PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> >>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
>> >> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
>> >> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
>> > I mean this situation:
>> > I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
>> > to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).
>> Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?
>
>Could you give me short example?


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Do a man pw

you can set a wide range from settings for the user, from
password and home dir to expireation date...

Frankie

keith@mail.telestream.com wrote:

> Is there a way to a run adduser and not have to step through every single
> little question?  Is it ok to edit the /etc/adduser.conf file and just
> take out all the stuff in there execpt for name and passwd? And if it is
> ok I assume then that all the guid and all that is just steped up for
> every user.  ???
> scriping some automatic user adds and don't want to have to do all the
> steps in adduser.
>
> "Someone through me a bone here" :)
> Thanks.
>
> Keith
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On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 20:38:46 +0200, you wrote:

>kernel: -- warning, refcnt now 0, decreasing
>kernen: -- warning, refcnt now -1, decreasing
>kernen: -- warning, refcnt now -2, decreasing

This might have gotten a better response on freebsd-net. Luigi (the guy
who writes dummynet) is on that list. However, from what I can remember,
I assisted with some stability issues in the early days of Dummynet's
first commit to the CVS tree, and this is basically a warning that
catches unexpected errors in the dummynet code.

Are you using dummynet as a kind of "pass through" router or are you
referencing daemons etc that are running on the local machine?

I've had some stability problems with dummynet when running, say, Apache
on the same machine - but have had 250 days of uptime on a machine that
has only worked as a router, passing from the outside world to machines
on our network & vice versa with almost no local daemons running.

Hope that this is of at least some assistance.

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	The FreeBSD list server has started refusing my messages with the
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	A word about my setup, which has not changed in a long time. I have a
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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:09:19PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > > I think procfs would be even more helpful (unless the 'file' is still
> > > done, or is it?)  You guys should have gotten my profs suggestion
> > > but someone obviously dropped cc lines.  *sigh*
> > > And Greg is definetly right, you should be able to look around to
> > > solve this problem, if the problem is then PATH, then searching
> > > the path is what you need to do, but I still think procfs offers
> > > what you need.
> > > man 5 procfs.
> > Look a this dump:
> >    481 ktrace   RET   ktrace 0
> >    481 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xbfbfdc9f,0xbfbfdbc4,0xbfbfdbcc)
> >    481 ktrace   NAMI  "./hellow"
> >    481 hellow   RET   execve 0
> >    481 hellow   CALL  getpid
> >    481 hellow   RET   getpid 481/0x1e1
> >    481 hellow   CALL  open(0xbfbfdb64,0,0)
> >    481 hellow   NAMI  "/compat/linux/proc/481/exe"
> >    481 hellow   NAMI  "/proc/481/exe"
> >    481 hellow   RET   open JUSTRETURN
> >    481 hellow   CALL  old.lseek(0xfffffffe,0x688,0)
> >    481 hellow   RET   old.lseek -1 errno -9 Unknown error: -9
> >    481 hellow   CALL  exit(0x7f)
> > 
> > I just don't know why lseek fails.
> 
> I don't know either, perhaps the source to this errant program
> would be helpful?
> This looks like a Linux program, just what are you trying to by
> opening 'exe'?  You obviously didn't read the procfs manpage, please
> do read it and then follow up.

Oops! Thanks for point! Damn! Where i was looking at? Of course exe should
be file!

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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 06:40:58PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:

> 	The FreeBSD list server has started refusing my messages with the
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> 
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> 
> 	A word about my setup, which has not changed in a long time. I have a
> 	FreeeBSD machine conected to a cablemodem. I use this machine as a
> 	gateway to masquerade all of my internal mchines. The loca domain is
> 	"fas.com" The machine I use to send mail is called grizzly. But I have
> 	this machine set up so that the return address is one of my IPS's
> 	(awod.com). I then use fetchmail to retrieve these messages.
> 
> 	Works great, execpt now the FreeBSD mail machine is upset about it :-(
> 
> 	Any sugestions appreciated.

Not only do you have to masquerade your email headers, you also have
to masquerade your envelope so that your internal machine's FQDN isn't
seen by the receiving MTA. hub.freebsd.org is *very* picky about all
the domain-names it sees. The way I got around this was to have in my
m4 macro files:

	MASQUERADE_AS(logisticsoftware.co.nz)
	FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')

Jonathan Chen
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In the headers you sent you also had a space between the b and the s in 
freebsd...


> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 06:40:58PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
> 
> > 	The FreeBSD list server has started refusing my messages with the
> > 	following error:
> > 
> > Nov 18 18:28:04 grizzly sendmail[17925]: AA131935087:
> > to=freebsd-questions@freeb sd.org, delay=00:43:17, stat=Deferred:
> > <grizzly.fas.com>: Host not found, mailer =tcp, MX
> > host=hub.freebsd.org., address=[204.216.27.18]
> > 
> > 	A word about my setup, which has not changed in a long time. I have
> > a 	FreeeBSD machine conected to a cablemodem. I use this machine as
> > a 	gateway to masquerade all of my internal mchines. The loca domain
> > is 	"fas.com" The machine I use to send mail is called grizzly. But
> > I have 	this machine set up so that the return address is one of my
> > IPS's 	(awod.com). I then use fetchmail to retrieve these messages.
> > 
> > 	Works great, execpt now the FreeBSD mail machine is upset about it
> > :-(
> > 
> > 	Any sugestions appreciated.
> 
> Not only do you have to masquerade your email headers, you also have
> to masquerade your envelope so that your internal machine's FQDN isn't
> seen by the receiving MTA. hub.freebsd.org is *very* picky about all
> the domain-names it sees. The way I got around this was to have in my
> m4 macro files:
> 
>  MASQUERADE_AS(logisticsoftware.co.nz)
>  FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')
> 
> Jonathan Chen
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity
>                      -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.
> 
> 
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Hi;

This might sound absurd, but I did 'sockstat' and I saw that named was
listed some 80 times:

root	named	134	4 udp	 *.1735		*.*
root	named	134	6 tcp
root	named	134	7 tcp
root	named	134	8 tcp
root	named	134	9 tcp
.
.
.
root	named	134	81 tcp
root	named	129	 4 udp	*.514		*.*	

Why are there so many entries for named when only a couple of sockets
are opened?

did't see this before.

Dan




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Hello !

I'm interested in making a program that shows some graphics.

I went deep into X11, Xt, Xlib, etc.,  and all I got was a headache. 

I know there is a very simple library called "libsx" and another one, a
little more elegant, called "Qt", both of them in the FreeBSD's packages,
but this is not my objective.  I want my program to be portable to other
systems.

All I want is a window, with a graphics context, where I can draw lines
and points.

Can anybody help me?

Thanks in advance.

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Hello I installed the packages as follows:-

rpm-225
linux-base5.2
staroffice3.1

I typed simage3 and I get

[sv/windowE0004} Error: parent before childs destoryed

cant find initaialisation script /home/username/.sd.sh
user install must be complete before simage3 can 
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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 04:51:43PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:09:19PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>>>>> I think procfs would be even more helpful (unless the 'file' is still
>>>>> done, or is it?)  You guys should have gotten my profs suggestion
>>>>> but someone obviously dropped cc lines.  *sigh*
>>>>> And Greg is definetly right, you should be able to look around to
>>>>> solve this problem, if the problem is then PATH, then searching
>>>>> the path is what you need to do, but I still think procfs offers
>>>>> what you need.
>>>>> man 5 procfs.
>>>>Look a this dump:
[skip]
>>>> I just don't know why lseek fails.
>>> I don't know either, perhaps the source to this errant program
>>> would be helpful?
>>> This looks like a Linux program, just what are you trying to by
>>> opening 'exe'?  You obviously didn't read the procfs manpage, please
>>> do read it and then follow up.
>> Oops! Thanks for point! Damn! Where i was looking at? Of course exe should
>> be file!
> not only that, but even though this is a test program you should have
> taken the extra minute to check the return value from open().

That's not my program, i just helping someone to make his linux program
work with FreeBSD too. But that's good point.

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Hi,
I've been looking around and I can't seem to find a way to have the system
to run vnconfig -a before mounting all the drives.

I've searching the mailing lists archives, /etc/defaults/rc.conf, and the
like.

Anyone know if there is such a setting?

Thanks,
-Chris



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Hi...I'm trying to understand and use the CVSup program and stay current
with FreeBSD.  I'm reading the handbook on www.freebsd.org and I am thrown
off by the third paragraph on section 18.3.3.2 that seems to say that the
Modula-3 libraries will be compiled and/or installed automatically when I
install the CVSup port.

Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, so here's a summary of what I've done:
=> installed the system with a minimal install from CDs of 3.2-RELEASE
=> put make on the system (grabbed from ports/distfiles/Mk) to help
install future programs
=> installed BIND (needs to be updated with latest version, i know)
=> system sat idle as other real-life things prioritized ahead (familiar?)
....and today....
=> copied cvsup-16.0.tar.gz from ftp5.freebsd.org to /usr/ports/cvsup/
=> unzipped and untarred
=> cd cvsup-16.0
=> more Announce; more Blurb; more Install (taking notes all the way)
=> make M3FLAGS=-DNOGUI

...and that runs for just a few seconds and dies with:

	m3build: not found
	*** error code 127
	
	Stop.
	*** error code 1
	
	Stop.
	#

Should I grab ports and manually install Modula-3?  I don't find any
listings on the ftp server in the distfiles directory for mod* where I
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I currently run redhat linux , and I have ALOT of software in rpm format , from
.src.rpm , that i have compiled my self. I was wondering if I could install this
on freebsd ..
Thanks alot
Mike Johnson

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Hi. I searched the archives and came up with hundreds of hints, so my
hope is someone here can point me directly to a helpful guide.

I have a new lap top: a Dell Inspiron 7500 (P3 500, 18g disk, 256m
RAM, and a 15.4" screen). I have a 3COM 3C574B (actually, a
3CFE574BTX) in the lap top and I dual boot. FreeBSD sees the 3COM card
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Is there a guide somewhere?


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I have tweaked and fiddled where I oughtn't have --
and have managed to convince my system not to configure 
the localhost on boot ...

While reading to find the fix I realized I should have 
been using /etc/rc.conf for my adjustments, and not 
/etc/defaults/rc.conf.  I fear I have probably mangled
other settings in the learning-curve frenzie ...  I 
doubt I can hand-restore the default file to pristine 
state.

Would someone -not- mind sending me a copy of a clean 
/etc/defaults/rc.conf ?


Hopeful,
    Erik Stainsby
    stainsby@telus.net
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If it's a PCMCIA ethernet card visit http://www.jp.freebsd.org/PAO for more
info on installing the PAO kernel, which provides support for PCMCIA
cards.......



At 05:31 PM 11/18/99 -0800, Dennis Glatting wrote:
>
>Hi. I searched the archives and came up with hundreds of hints, so my
>hope is someone here can point me directly to a helpful guide.
>
>I have a new lap top: a Dell Inspiron 7500 (P3 500, 18g disk, 256m
>RAM, and a 15.4" screen). I have a 3COM 3C574B (actually, a
>3CFE574BTX) in the lap top and I dual boot. FreeBSD sees the 3COM card
>on boot but I can't get the card to work. I've fooled around with
>pccard.conf but can't get pccardd to work.
>
>Is there a guide somewhere?
>
>
>-dpg
> 
Jonathan E. Lyons   			FreeBSD:The Power to Serve
parrothd@midwest.net 			MCP, MCSE, A+ Certified
http://parrothd.midwest.net/ 
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If you look in /usr/share/examples/etc/defaults you'll find another
copy of the rc.conf.  If you still have problems, send me an
email and I'll mail you a copy.
Ian
Ian Logan
Computing & Networking
New Mexico State University
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ok, i got three mails on this subject, so i'm going to group them all together.

my original message:
>>
>>it holds 6 Pentium Pro CPUs, 4GB RAM, built in AIC-7880, blah blah blah
>>
>>anyone ever use one of these?  does FreeBSD SMP handle >4 CPUs?
>>
>>i don't have a lot of info about this mobo, but i can get one for $55, is it
>>worth it? (i want to build a multi-CPU PPro machine)
>>
>>thanks for all your help.
>>
>>-wonko
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm familiar with ALR's.  I have two, one with two PPro 200's.  Several
>clients have them too.  You're going to need the voltage regulator boards
>that go with each of the cpu's.  The only source I could find was ALR

ick.

>before they were converted to Gateway.  I bought two cpu's from ALR last
>year for $700 apiece.  One word of warning, the cpu's are not marked with

$700? ick.  can i put just any PPro CPU on this thing? (they go for under $100
each these days)

>the stepping number and on these boards, they must match or the smp process
>goes haywire.

hmm, is there an easy way to check the CPU stepping?  (aside from plugging them
in to find out they don't work?)

>ALR's boards are very fast if you can populate them.

excellent.

>It wouldn't hurt to call Gateway at 1-800-444-4ALR (1-800-444-4257) and ask
>about it.

i think i'll do that.  thanks for the number.

>Regards,
>Richard

thanks richard.

next email:
>
>    First of all, http://www.vanvleet.net/alrbase.html has all the
>information that I have collected about this system, including dmesg output.

excellent page, i think you and i will be talking a lot. :)

>I currently have it running with 4 CPUs with no troubles at all.  Really a
>great machine, but you may have to spend some time on the case and power
>supply issues if you don't have access to one.  It's running 3.3-RELEASE.  I

good, FreeBSD, no of that Linux Weenie crap. :)  i've got a variety of old
server cases laying around (old Sun3 hardware, etc, HUGE power supplies)
and i should have no problem fitting it in the cases either (if all else fails
i'm SURE it will fit in the VAX 11/750 case. *grin*)


>hope to have a couple of CPUs in the next few weeks to see how 6 CPUs work,
>but since the chipset was never supposed to support it, I'm putting the odds
>at 50-50.

i would be VERY interested to know how this turns out since this is what i'm
really interested in.

>    Also, $55 is a great price if it includes all of the extra cards (CPU,
>RAM, and keyboard).

i don't think so, it may just be only the mainboard, i'll have to ask.

>-James Van Vleet

thanks James, like i said, i think we'll be talking a lot.

>P.S.  I don't know if this goes to the mailing list or not.  If it doesn't,
>please forward it there as I am not a subscriber.

i'll do that for you.

next email: [from Mike Squires who didn't sign or i cut by mistake]
>
>Be careful to get the riser cards - the motherboard by itself is not useful,
>and I suspect that the power supply connections are not standard.  

as james pointed out the power supply connectors are all wacky. YEA!!

>I've seen a note that says the 6-way motherboards use a hack to fool the
>OS into thinking that it's a 4-way motherboard; however, at least one of
>the vendors is giving away RedHat with the board.

hmm, i'll try to talk to ALR/Gateway and see what i can come up with about this.

thanks for all your help everybody.

-wonko
--
ps: someone asked about eBay, but i accidentally deleted that.  yes, this is
one of four boards as sold on eBay.


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On 18-Nov-99 Jonathan E. Lyons wrote:
> Ugh...hehehe....
> 
> So when you type at&f and hit return you get and "ok"??
> 
> Then you just need to modify your init string for the modem, look in the
> book and look for echo, and turn it on, or you can try;
> 
> AT&F0
> or
> AT&F1
> or 
> AT&F2 
> 

atq0e1

will enable[1] echo and command results without f-ing/up any other settings.

1. for a dial-in you would want to disable (atq1e0) to keep mr. getty happy


Regards,
---
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EDP Manager                                            dread@texas.net
Calcasieu Lumber Co.                                         Austin TX
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Ta! 
(Of course the thing would have newbie-proofing built in 
  -- it's a -=real=- OS )


>If you look in /usr/share/examples/etc/defaults you'll find another
>copy of the rc.conf.  If you still have problems, send me an
>email and I'll mail you a copy.
>Ian
>Ian Logan
>Computing & Networking
>New Mexico State University
>Email: ian@nmsu.edu Phone: 505-646-6034 Fax: 505-646-5278




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- ---- Quoting 's message, sent 11/18/99 1:51pm ----

> We had a problem like this at the office and sorted it out with an
> interesting solution. The main problem is you need to be root to do
> this, and apache refuses to run as root unless you fix it a little -
> and thats NOT recommended.
> 
> So what we did is we made a php3 script which is the ACTION of our
> form. What we do is send a mail to root with cunning hidden headers
> and some pgp encryption of the username and new password. Then we have
> a procmail filter which looks for the hidden header, takes the
> encryption passes it through a php binary which decrypts the pgp and
> then executes something like this :
> 
> #$1 = username
> #$2 = newpassword
> 
> /usr/sbin/pw usermod $1 -h 0 <<EOF
> $2
> EOF
> 
> Weird solution - but it works!

do you have the source for the PHP scripts and the procmail filter? i
might try it, sounds interesting. i also saw a posting about using Expect.
btw, is there also a way to include a Hint phrase just in case the user
forgets the password?

- -- 
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hi all,

can someone help me make this perl script work? it's a script that will
let users change their passwords via the web through poppassd. i'll send
the script to interested parties.

thanks!

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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 04:50:54PM +0000, Richard Tobin wrote:
> > WHITEOUTS???  What is this?
> 
> IIRC, whiteouts are (would be?) used for the union filesystem (similar
> to Sun's "translucent" filesystem).  The union filesystem allows one
> filesystem to be mounted "over" another, where you see files in both
> filesystems with those in the "upper" filesystem overriding those in
> the (typically read-only) "lower".  A whiteout in the upper filesystem
> hides one in the lower, allowing you to delete files from the union.
> Undeleting such a whited-out file would just be a question of removing
> the whiteout to expose the original again.

Hmmm.   Sounds a little like CMS mini-disks.  You can specify a 
search order that does the same sort of thing.  So, what would 
you do to "white out" a file ?  Create an empty file with the same
name?  Or is there some special attribute you give files on 
a union fs?  Guess it's hit-the-code time.

Thanks!

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In message <Pine.OSF.3.96.991118104116.22248A-100000@mbs.valinet.com> Alan Corey writes:
: Well, maybe.  The entry in pccard.conf is there, but I neglected to
: mention that I'm also using PAO3-19991011.  I couldn't get the card to
: work without PAO, but I attributed that to my own inexperience.  After a
: week or so of trying without it I finally loaded PAO and things went much 
: more smoothly.  I thought since the entry was there it must have worked
: for someone, so it was just me doing something wrong.

I did add code from PAO to my local tree.  jmb did the same thing and
I merged his changed into mine and added another MAC address that was
acceptible to the linksys test.  I don't think that these changes have
been MFC'd.

Warner


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On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 11:22:14PM +0000, Sabre wrote:

> ok, this might sounds silly, but what file (location and name) do I have
> to put those lines in to get the FreeBSD mailing list to recognize me?

To generate a usable sendmail.cf using m4 macros:

	cd /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/cf
	cp generic-bsd4.4.mc myfile.mc
	[edit myfile.mc, adding required features]
	[edit Makefile, adding myfile.cf to ALL=]
	make
	cp myfile.cf /etc/sendmail.cf

/usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README contains heaps of info on usable
features with m4 files.

Cheers.

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Well, I think I have some kind of Yamaha System, but it's also SB 16
compatible.  Someone sent me a kernel file before that didn't work.  I'm
running 3.3 current.  If anyone has had any success with this model,
please let me know what you setting were.

-jm




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From owner-freebsd-questions  Thu Nov 18 19:50:58 1999
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I'm trying to configure my refuse files so as to not receive files such 
those in the russian directories.  I'm failing.

Here's the output from my cvsup session:

# tail -f /var/log/cvsup.log
CVSup update begins at 1999/11/19 16:43:16
Updating from cvsup-master.freebsd.org
Connected to cvsup-master.freebsd.org
"data" should be a directory, but is a symlink to a directory -- check 
your prefix setting
Updating collection www/current
 Rsync data/ru/FAQ/troubleshoot.html
Interrupted
CVSup update ends at 1999/11/19 16:43:33

In the above, it's updating files located at

/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD-www.current/data/ru

I've tried various refuse file filenames:

refuse
refuse.cv

and locations:
/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/
/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD-www.current/
/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD-www.current/data/

And various refuse file contents:

/ru/*
data/ru*
data/ru/*
www/data/ru/*
www/ru/*
*/ru/*
data/ru/*
data/ru*
www/ru
www/ru*
www/ru/*
www/current/ru*
www/current/ru/*
current/ru*
current/ru/*
www/current/data/ru*
www/current/data/ru/*
current/data/ru*
current/data/ru*
*data/ru*

But I still keep getting the ru data.  Bah.  What am I doing wrong?

cheers
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Dann Lunsford wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 04:50:54PM +0000, Richard Tobin wrote:
 > > IIRC, whiteouts are (would be?) used for the union filesystem (similar
 > > to Sun's "translucent" filesystem).  The union filesystem allows one
 > > filesystem to be mounted "over" another, where you see files in both
 > > filesystems with those in the "upper" filesystem overriding those in
 > > the (typically read-only) "lower".  A whiteout in the upper filesystem
 > > hides one in the lower, allowing you to delete files from the union.
 > > Undeleting such a whited-out file would just be a question of removing
 > > the whiteout to expose the original again.
 > 
 > [...]  So, what would 
 > you do to "white out" a file ?  Create an empty file with the same
 > name?  Or is there some special attribute you give files on 
 > a union fs?  Guess it's hit-the-code time.

It's a special file mode, see stat(2):

   #define        S_IFWHT  0160000  /* whiteout */

I guess that a file with that mode is automatically created
in the "upper" layer of a union filesystem when you try to
delete a file that is present in the "lower" layer.  At least
I'm not aware of any other way to create such a special file
(and why would someone want to do that anyway?).  The union
fs code should contain further details...  :-)

Regards
   Oliver

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I have a project in mind where I'd like to interface a FreeBSD box to one
of several of those little "webcam" type devices.  The problem is that the
closest I can get a machine to the camera locations is about 35-40 feet.

Anyone know of a webcam that can connect at that distance?  If I *have* to
use a windows machine I can make do, but I'd prefer something I can use
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Well, i think i might have done it.. we'll see, keep the fingers
crossed.

I have been setting my speed at 115000,ar whatever that figure usually
is at 115K,  Well, i set it back to 57600 on a whim, and i haven't been
disconnected in 3 hours, during peak time.  I think i might have found
my solution.

This isn't a question, obviously, but an answer that someone else may
benefit from.

-jcm



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Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> 
> >This isn't technically possible.  You can't securely wipe data from a
> >disk using the disks own R/W head/electronics (which is the only way
> >to preserve intact files).
> 
> Why isn't it possible to read unallocated sectors and write back sectors
> full of garbage, or 0xFF?

It is, but that won't erase the disk, at least not well enough that someone
who knows what they're doing can't get it back.

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Dug Song wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> > Why isn't it possible to read unallocated sectors and write back sectors
> > full of garbage, or 0xFF?
> 
> this was the topic of a recent thread on comp.security.unix:
> 
> peter gutmann's excellent paper from the 6th USENIX security symposium is
> probably the definitive answer:
> 
>         http://www.fish.com/security/secure_del.html

That's the algorithm my "obliterate" program uses, modulo caching in the
disk controller, etc.  The idea occurred to me this afternoon it would be
relatively easy to wipe the unallocated sectors of a disk if it were
unmounted, right after a fsck or maybe as a final optional pass to fsck.
Such an operation would be excruciatingly slow on a disk of any size,
though.

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Anyone here managee to get X going on an IBM Thinkpad 600E? What video
card does this thing have and what is supported by X?

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Greetings...

	Is it possible to run virtual tty's on a dumb (Wyse 60) terminal?
As in ALT-F1, ALT-F2...???  Additionally, is it possible for each of these
virtual terminals to be assigned a different IP addy by pppd (I suppose if
the virt terms work then pppd would be OK with it, but it doesn't hurt to
check ;-).

	Please respond directly, as I'm not on the list - *many* thanks!

Yours,

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TrouBle wrote:
> 
> will you all take a look at this, this is what i am looking for!!
> 
> Wipe is a tool that effectively degauses the surface of a hard
> disk, making it virtually impossible to retrieve the data that was
> stored on it. This is the ultimate in making sure secure data that is
> erased from a hard drive is unrecoverable.

OK, I just looked at it.  I don't see where it differs greatly from
obliterate.  In particular, nothing about the manpage or the code
suggests that it will do what you suggest, background wiping of free
sectors on a mounted filesystem.  On the contrary, it appears that is
has some special code introduced for handling block devices that seem
to be unnecessary, given that block devices are (soon to be) no longer
found in FreeBSD.

I agree that the ability to securely overwrite disk sectors before
returning them to the free pool is an excellent idea, but this tool does
not appear to provide such a feature.

When the original discussion that lead to my rather simple obliterate
program occurred, Matt Dillon and others pointed out the way to really
do this would be to integrate the disk sector wiping into the VM system.
While I agree this sounds like an excellent feature, I am not going to
be able to do that anytime in the foreseeable future.  If someone else
wants to work on this, feel free to use any part of the code I've written,
it's under a Berkeley-style "copycenter" license after all.  ;^)

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, J.A. Terranson wrote:

> Greetings...
> 
> 	Is it possible to run virtual tty's on a dumb (Wyse 60) terminal?
> As in ALT-F1, ALT-F2...???  Additionally, is it possible for each of these
> virtual terminals to be assigned a different IP addy by pppd (I suppose if
> the virt terms work then pppd would be OK with it, but it doesn't hurt to
> check ;-).

The first item can be done with the 'screen' port, it's in 
/usr/ports/misc/screen, i have no idea how to do the second (IP).

-Alfred



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I've only done the TP750 series..but your best bet is to
check www.xfree86.org as they have a list of the video card
they support.  When your system first boots it should
display your video chip.

Michael G.

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:39:52 -0800 (PST), Bill Woods wrote:

>Anyone here managee to get X going on an IBM Thinkpad 600E? What video
>card does this thing have and what is supported by X?
>
>William
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Hi,

Today (11/18/99) I installed OpenSSH from freshly cvsup'd ports on a
couple systems to give it a try. Interactive sessions work fine, however
scp doesn't appear to.

I've poked around and haven't seen anything obvious and since my systems
are fairly clean, I wanted to check and see if anyone else had these
problems.

When I scp with the remote server running OpenSSH and the local system
running either the official ssh or openssh, after authenticating, it
errors out.

Here's an example session:

scp ./testfile test@other.host.com:~
test@other.host.com's password:
scp: Command not found.
lost connection

Any tips or suggestions, anyone?

Thanks.

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On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 04:51:02PM +1300, Dan Langille wrote:
> I'm trying to configure my refuse files so as to not receive files such 
> those in the russian directories.  I'm failing.
> 
> Here's the output from my cvsup session:
> 
> # tail -f /var/log/cvsup.log
> CVSup update begins at 1999/11/19 16:43:16
> Updating from cvsup-master.freebsd.org
> Connected to cvsup-master.freebsd.org
> "data" should be a directory, but is a symlink to a directory -- check 
> your prefix setting
> Updating collection www/current
>  Rsync data/ru/FAQ/troubleshoot.html
> Interrupted
> CVSup update ends at 1999/11/19 16:43:33
> 
> In the above, it's updating files located at
> 
> /usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD-www.current/data/ru
> 
> I've tried various refuse file filenames:
> 
> refuse
> refuse.cv
> 
> and locations:
> /usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/
> /usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD-www.current/
> /usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD-www.current/data/
> 

Put it in /usr/sup and the entry should be relative to the base
dir, ie /usr. I don't track -stable so I'm not sure of the exact
entries you need but for the russian ports and docs it would contain

doc/ru*
ports/russian

http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/faq.html#refuse
has more detailed info.

HTH

> And various refuse file contents:
> 
> /ru/*
> data/ru*
> data/ru/*
> www/data/ru/*
> www/ru/*
> */ru/*
> data/ru/*
> data/ru*
> www/ru
> www/ru*
> www/ru/*
> www/current/ru*
> www/current/ru/*
> current/ru*
> current/ru/*
> www/current/data/ru*
> www/current/data/ru/*
> current/data/ru*
> current/data/ru*
> *data/ru*
> 
> But I still keep getting the ru data.  Bah.  What am I doing wrong?
> 
> cheers
> --
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Dear Michael,


Thank you. I am sorry not to have replied sooner, only that I have been
occupied with quite other matters since yesterday. Last night I read
Chapter 6 of the DNS/BIND book again which deals specifically with the
resolver. It is not a simple process and will take me a little more time
to work through this in detail.

What is interesting is that the problem of appending the local domain
name to an already fully qualified domain name is covered in the section
on "Search Lists". With our current configuration, DNS does not appear
to know where to look and, before the process fails, it appends the
local domain name in a last ditch attempt to return a valid response.
However, this does not entirely explain why the DNS logs show perhaps 3
or 4 lookups for the correct name (eg; some.other.domain) and only then
an entry for some.other.domain.at.home. Why, when connected to the net,
do the original ones fail is my immediate question? This points to a
failure of the DNS, not the resolver...

I will ask myself this question again when I have reinstated the
forwarders.

Today there are some other items of work I really must complete, so it
will be the weekend before I can sit down and think about DNS again - at
which point I hope to respond fully to your analysis and suggestions. 

In the meantime, good look with your wrapper script - I shall certainly
be very interested to see how it works.

My sincere best wishes,

Ric



Michael Kennett wrote:
> 
> Hello Richard,
> >
> > Dear Michael,
> >
> > Hope your exams went well.
> 
> Thank you for your kind wishes. Another exam next week (Tuesday). So I'm not
> done yet!
> 
> > I have been doing a little more work on the DNS problems. I append a
> > file that contains the output of the DNS log files.
> 
> Thank you for this. I haven't copied across your entire message, but in
> the middle of it you had some 'thinking out loud', and come to the conclusion
> that you need forwarders in your DNS configuration. I'd agree with that.


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Thanks!!!

ust>It has the joliet extensions! But on FreeBSD RockRidge are the standard and 
ust>it tries first that and not Joliet.
ust>
ust>I burn CDs which are readable on UNIX and Win systems with:
ust>
ust>mkisofs -v -a -d -J -D -L -r -T

oh... ;)

ust>	# mount_cd9660 -r /dev/wcd0c /cdrom

m-m-m...
It works good!!!

But on the NT, or others DOS-like systems this CD is not readeble ;/
Is this is the CD-drive trouble or system??? And also when I install
FreeBSD from this CD it say:
	acd0c: read_toc failed

???

Thanks.

Regards,
  Listopad Alexandr
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Hello, Ive searched the mailing list archives and scanned the BSD
handbook, and have tried all the suggestions, and Im still having trouble, 
so please help me out if you can.

I have an AMD K6-2 400mhz

I have been trying to enable sound on my system, so I was building a
custom kernel (also to get rid of all the devices im not using) and I
I have entered:

machine         "i386"
#cpu            "I386_CPU"
#cpu            "I486_CPU"
#cpu             "I586_CPU"
cpu            "I686_CPU"

when I rebooted, I got this error:

--
	CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (unknown-class CPU)
		..... ....  ...
		.... ..... ...
	panic: CPU class not configured!
--

So after reading the posts in the mailing list archives that matched my
problem, I noticed that some of the suggestions were that the AMB K6-2
might be an I586_CPU as far as BSD was concered (but it really isnt) so I
tried uncommenting the I586_CPU and commenting out the I686_CPU
refference. I got the same panic.

Can someone help me get my CPU specified, so I can see if my attempt at
getting the AWE 64 working was even succesfull?

Please send responses to my email address since I am not subscribed to the
list.

Thanks in advance for any help

- Nick Jennings
- nick@namodn.com





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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:57:37 EST, James Gill wrote:

> Hi...I'm trying to understand and use the CVSup program and stay current
> with FreeBSD.  I'm reading the handbook on www.freebsd.org and I am thrown
> off by the third paragraph on section 18.3.3.2 that seems to say that the
> Modula-3 libraries will be compiled and/or installed automatically when I
> install the CVSup port.

I would save yourself the heart-ache and install a precompiled cvsup
binary.  I know this is not the answer you were looking for, but it's
unlikely that many folks will look into this one when such an easy
work-around exists.

If you want to install it from the ports tree, it's cvsup-bin in the net
category.  Otherwise, there should be a package on your CDs.

Much easier. :-)

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:57:50 PST, Mark Hartley wrote:

> During the make, it bombs out (after a few minutes of compiling)
> while trying to compile auth.c
> 
> auth.c:145: des.h: No such file or directory

[...]

> I do not have the DES sources installed.  I originally set the
> machine up using MD5 passwords.

Have a look at the port's patches/patch-aa:

 # Location of the DES library and include files. Comment this out if you
 # don't want Randnum Exchange and 2-Way Randnum Exchange as allowable UAMs 
 # for afpd. We expect libdes.a in $DESDIR/lib and des.h in
$DESDIR/include.
-DESDIR=/usr/local
+DESDIR=/usr

I would suggest doing this:

	make clean
	make patch
	vi work/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/Makefile
	[comment out the line that begins with DESDIR, save and exit]
	cd ../..
	make

I haven't tested this myself, but you may get lucky.  Also, be aware
that there's at least one open GNATS Problem Report for this port:

	http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=13714

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Here's what ipcs -a shows:

Message Queues:
T     ID     KEY        MODE       OWNER    GROUP  CREATOR   CGROUP CBYTES =
 QNUM QBYTES LSPID LRPID   STIME    RTIME    CTIME

Shared Memory:
T     ID     KEY        MODE       OWNER    GROUP  CREATOR   CGROUP NATTCH =
 SEGSZ  CPID  LPID   ATIME    DTIME    CTIME
m  65536          0 --rwa------   backup   backup   backup   backup      0 =
655440   8635   863516:50:54 16:50:54 16:50:54
m 327681          0 --rwa------   backup   backup   backup   backup      0 =
655440  16025  1602515:00:54 15:01:08 15:00:54
m  65538          0 --rwa------   backup   backup   backup   backup      0 =
655440  16099  1609915:03:44 15:03:59 15:03:44
m 196611          0 --rwa------ operator operator operator operator      0 =
655440  32858  3285812:38:00 12:38:14 12:38:00
m  65540          0 --rwa------ operator operator operator operator      0 =
655440  40068  4006812:38:00 12:38:14 12:38:00
m  65541          0 --rwa------ operator operator operator operator      0 =
655440  47259  4725912:38:00 12:39:02 12:38:00

Semaphores:
T     ID     KEY        MODE       OWNER    GROUP  CREATOR   CGROUP NSEMS  =
 OTIME    CTIME



On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Colin Campbell wrote:

> Hi,
>=20
> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Jakob Alvermark wrote:
>=20
> > > > I'm trying to set up amanda, and I have a problem.
> > > >
> > > > When I run amdump I get the error "taper: FATAL shmget: Cannot allo=
cate
> > > > memory"
> > > >
>=20
> The man page for shmget may give you some hints - eg asking for less than
> is allowed or more than is allowed or none left (?). What does "ipcs -a"
> show?
>=20
> >=20
> > The kernel is configured for SMP, althogh I pulled out one of the
> > processors,
> > but that shouldn't matter, right?
>=20
> I don't know for sure. All that usually happens is that it runs slower
> since all the kernel locking still takes place even though it isn't
> necessary with one cpu.
>=20
> Colin
>=20
>=20

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:11:34 +0100, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

> Here you see output of make all install of wterm.
> It is missing this particular library PropList.2?

Oooh dear, I've seen _this_ one before!  Just for your referece, you're
having trouble building windowmaker (the window manager), not wterm.

Oh yeah, this was reported in PR 10516 .  'Twas a bitch, and
unfortunately, much of the correspondance isn't on the PR itself (PR
stands for Problem Report, by the way).

My suggestion is to pkg_delete any libPropList that you may have
installed.  You can see whether you have one installed with this
command:

	pkg_info | grep libproplist

If you find one pkg_delete it.

Once you're sure you don't have libPropList installed, install it again
after you've made sure that the version you have in your ports tree is
0.9.1 -- this command will show you that:

	grep ^PKGNAME /usr/ports/devel/libPropList/Makefile

If your port is stale, update your ports tree.  Either way, once you've
got the latest version of the port, install it with ``make install''.

Now go back to WindowMaker and try to build it again, after a ``make
clean''.

Good luck!

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Where can I find an ISO to download?  I would rather burn a copy and install
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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:18:35 GMT, AHZE wrote:

> I currently run redhat linux , and I have ALOT of software in rpm
> format , from .src.rpm , that i have compiled my self. I was wondering
> if I could install this on freebsd ..

There are two issues at play here.

The first is the issue of package management in FreeBSD.  There is an
rpm package manager available for FreeBSD, either in the Ports
collection or as a package install.  So you _will_ be able to use srpms
and rpms to install software on FreeBSD, although some of your srpms
might need to be tweaked for FreeBSD-specific build issues (library and
header locations etc).

The more serious issue, though, is that of binary compatibility.  Many
applications compiled for Linux can be run on FreeBSD using FreeBSD's
linuxulator.  However, there's no guarantee that any given application
will work.  Unfortunately, you'll just have to try them out and see.

The good news is that FreeBSD's linuxulator is under active development.
This means that, should you run into problem, there's at least one
person who will take an interest in your compatibility problems.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:40:58 PST, Jesse wrote:

> scp ./testfile test@other.host.com:~
> test@other.host.com's password:
> scp: Command not found.
> lost connection
> 
> Any tips or suggestions, anyone?

This is a bug in earlier versions of the openssh port, which has been
fixed recently.  Update your ports tree and reinstall the port.

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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:01:45 +0800, "Francis A. Vidal" wrote:

> can someone help me make this perl script work?

So send it already.  Next time you have a question that involves
inspection of a file, you might want to post a URL to the file so that
folks don't have to respond.  The problem with demanding responses is
that folks have to respond publically so that others know you're being
helped. :-)

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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 03:17:41 CST, "Mark Allen" wrote:

> Where can I find an ISO to download?  I would rather burn a copy and
> install that way.  Thanks.

	ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:21:22 MST, Charles Randall wrote:

> What happens if you put all-new memory in the server machine? Is this
> reproducible on another machine?

Following on from Charles' advice, you might also want to prove to
yourself that it isn't a problem with MFS-backed NFS.  Instead of using
MFS, try allocating a filesystem for the exports instead and see whether
the problem persists.

Ciao,
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On 18 Nov 1999, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

> Mark Powell <M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk> writes:
> 
> > then hangs. The machine can be rebooted with CTRL-ALT-DEL. Win98 and
> > Redhat 6.1 boot just fine from CD on the same machine. Surely, FreeBSD
> > should do the same?
> > Cheers.
> 
> It should, it doesn't, it's a bug, it's in the release errata,

Yeah, I've seen the errata. That's why I'm using the later version of the
3.3 CD. However, that too does not work. The errata states that the
original 3.3 CD fails to boot on ATAPI CDROMS, but works on SCSI. I am
using the later version of the CD and SCSI, but it still does not work.
The errata is wrong.

> workarounds include booting from floppies or starting the boot from
> the second CD.  

Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - Clifford Whitworth Building
A.I.S., University of Salford, Salford, Manchester, UK.
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:40:31 PST, daniel B wrote:

> This might sound absurd, but I did 'sockstat' and I saw that named was
> listed some 80 times:

  USER	COMMAND	PID    FD PROTO	 LOCAL ADDRESS	FOREIGN ADDRESS
> root	named	134	4 udp	 *.1735		*.*
> root	named	134	6 tcp
> root	named	134	7 tcp

Either named has a file descriptor leak, or your named is heavily
worked (in which case don't worry) or sockstat is showing you all file
descriptors instead of showing only those which reference sockets.

If the number of open file descriptors reported by sockstat doesn't
continue to increase without limit, then your named is probably just a
busy body.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Try this one:
ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/
or
ftp://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/
or another one,


Carsten Bertelsen


> ----------
> From: 	Mark Allen[SMTP:mallen@bradley.edu]
> Sent: 	19. november 1999 10:17
> To: 	freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
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> 
> Where can I find an ISO to download?  I would rather burn a copy and
> install that way.  Thanks.
> 
> Mark Allen
> mallen@bradley.edu
> 
> 
> 


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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:50:27 PST, "Erik Stainsby" wrote:

> Would someone -not- mind sending me a copy of a clean 
> /etc/defaults/rc.conf ?

But you can pick it up for yourself. :-)

	fetch -o rc.conf http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/defaults/rc.conf?rev=1.1.2.15

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This can also be as a result of the other machine not having scp in
your user's path....

Found that out playing with Solaris once..  :)

Cheers,
Marc

On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 10:40:58PM -0800, Jesse wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Today (11/18/99) I installed OpenSSH from freshly cvsup'd ports on a
> couple systems to give it a try. Interactive sessions work fine, however
> scp doesn't appear to.
> 
> I've poked around and haven't seen anything obvious and since my systems
> are fairly clean, I wanted to check and see if anyone else had these
> problems.
> 
> When I scp with the remote server running OpenSSH and the local system
> running either the official ssh or openssh, after authenticating, it
> errors out.
> 
> Here's an example session:
> 
> scp ./testfile test@other.host.com:~
> test@other.host.com's password:
> scp: Command not found.
> lost connection
> 
> Any tips or suggestions, anyone?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> ---
> Jesse <j@lumiere.net>
> http://www.lumiere.net/
> 
> 
> 
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Jesse <j@lumiere.net> wrote:

> Today (11/18/99) I installed OpenSSH from freshly cvsup'd ports on a
> couple systems to give it a try. Interactive sessions work fine, however
> scp doesn't appear to.

See PR #14992.

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Please note that this solution applies specifically to those sites which 
are running cvsupd to mirror the cvs repository and the www sites.  I don't 
think you can directly apply this solution to sup'ing your ports collection. 

On 19 Nov 99, at 7:04, Mark Ovens wrote: 

> Put it in /usr/sup and the entry should be relative to the base
> dir, ie /usr. I don't track -stable so I'm not sure of the exact
> entries you need but for the russian ports and docs it would contain

I've solved it.  This time, by reading the FAQ again.  In particular: 

http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/faq.html#refuse-where 

For sup'ing the files for a cvsup repository, this is how cvsup is invoked: 

cvsup -1gL 1 -c sup.client -h cvsup-master.freebsd.org supfile.non-crypto 

The key is the -c parameter.  Reading the FAQ, the refuse file must be 
"sup.client/refuse".  The full pathname is 
/usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup.client/refuse. 

Within this file I have the following: 

doc/es*
doc/ja*
doc/ru*
doc/zh*
doc/fr*
ports/german*
ports/japanese*
ports/korean*
ports/russian*
ports/vietnamese*
www/es*
www/ja*
www/ru*
www/zh*
data/es*
data/ja*
data/ru*
data/zh*
www/data/es*
www/data/ja*
www/data/ru*
www/data/zh*
src/share/doc/es*
src/share/doc/ja*
src/share/doc/ru*
src/share/doc/zh*

This stops all foreign language items.  I can't see a demand for that 
within New Zealand and I feel that saving the bandwidth is a higher 
priority than completeness. 

cheers. 
--
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On Ons, Nov 17, 1999 at 06:48:11pm +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> Does anyone have any thoughts on the osbsbeta boot manager?  I haven't
> tried it, but if it's better, i may give it a shot.

I use it on all my FreeBSD dual boot machines. It just works great! I
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My FreeBSD3.2 box seems to have a date problem. About every other week
I have to go in and change the date back one day. Currently, it thinks
today is 20Nov instead of 19Nov. I booted and went into the bios and
the bios is reporting the correct date, 19Nov. Is FreeBSD goofing up
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perpetrator changing the date?

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Eduardo Viruena Silva wrote:

>All I want is a window, with a graphics context, where I can draw lines
>and points.

For this, you probably have to dive into Xlib since all the
toolkits mostly provide widgets and gadgets (the user interface
parts) while applications do arbitrary drawing with Xlib itself
(there's nothing that would make it much simpler, you still have
to invoke a function to draw a line, for example).
You might want to look into Tcl/Tk if Xlib shocks you, it's
perhaps a bit easier to get into.

mkb


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I'm confused:

If I search in questions for the string "withrow" I get this message:

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And if I search for "userconfig" I don't find either one of them, even 
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Seems like the search tool is either un-intuitive, or un-reliable.

PS:  In the above, searching for "Withrow" instead of "withrow" or
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In my natd setup, natd_interface = fxp0.  What the hell is fxp0?

When I run /etc/rc.firewall, I get this error message:

ipfw: warning: interface "fxp0" does not exist.

Also, how do I determine the current setting of natd_interface is I am
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In my natd setup, natd_interface = fxp0.  What the hell is fxp0?

When I run /etc/rc.firewall, I get this error message:

ipfw: warning: interface "fxp0" does not exist.

Also, how do I determine the current setting of natd_interface is I am
running bash?

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I am buying a notebook on which I Want to install FreeBSD as permanent  
server at my job site.
I wanted to ask if someone can suggest me some particular model on which
FreeBSD runs without any troubles.
In particular if someone can suggest me a good PCMCIA fast ethernet card.
Then I Wanted to ask if I might have some problem using X11 on the
notebook given the particular type of display.

thanks

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I run 3.3 STABLE on a Toshiba Satellite 4010CDT.  I hear Toshiba is
alterna-OS friendly, and i would have to agree.  Hardware config was easy,
with just a little extra work needed for the PCMCIA card.  Display is
beautiful on Xwindows.

Why would you run a server on a laptop though?  Wouldn't a desktop box be
more reliable under heavy loads?


On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, FreeBSD mailing list wrote:

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>I am buying a notebook on which I Want to install FreeBSD as permanent  
>server at my job site.
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>In particular if someone can suggest me a good PCMCIA fast ethernet card.
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>notebook given the particular type of display.
>
>thanks
>
>Rick
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I am using this laptop and it is the neomagic card.  I have it set at
1024x768 with 16m color.  Very nice display.  Make sure you are using the
latest Xfree though and you want the SVGA server set to 16m.  Hope that
helps.

Chris


On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Bill Woods wrote:

> Anyone here managee to get X going on an IBM Thinkpad 600E? What video
> card does this thing have and what is supported by X?
> 
> William
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I have ssh-1.2.27

when I user scp to copy programs between hosts I got always this error

 Write failed flushing stdout buffer.
write stdout: Broken pipe


what this could be due ??
thanks

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fxp0 is your network card
The `fxp' device provides support for the Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B PCI
Fast Ethernet adapters.

from the command line do an " ifconfig -a " and that will tell you all your
running NICS..

Most likely it looks like you have the cofiguration for your network card
wrong.  Do the " ifconfig -a" to find out with network card is the one you
are currently using. It will look something like this

xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet 192.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.0.0.255
       ether 00:50:04:74:8d:33
        media: 100baseTX <half-duplex>
        supported media: autoselect 100baseTX <full-duplex> 100baseTX
<half-duplex> 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP <full-duplex> 10baseT/UTP <half-duplex>
10baseT/UTP
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
        inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000

In this case xl0 is my Network Card and in your case it should be ether fxp0
or something else..

Hope that helps you some...

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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: what is fxp0?


In my natd setup, natd_interface = fxp0.  What the hell is fxp0?

When I run /etc/rc.firewall, I get this error message:

ipfw: warning: interface "fxp0" does not exist.

Also, how do I determine the current setting of natd_interface is I am
running bash?

Thanks for you help,

Don James




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is the G400 supported by FreeBSD with the latest XFree86 ?
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Hi,

    Try running /usr/X11R6/bin/SuperProbe to find out wich kind of video
card do you have, how much memory does it have, and some other interesting
values.

Have Fun...
Ales

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> Anyone here managee to get X going on an IBM Thinkpad 600E? What video
> card does this thing have and what is supported by X?
>
> William
>
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fxp0 is an ethernet device.  I think it is an intel etherexpress 100B 
or something using the same chip.

Run 'ifconfig -a' to see what is going on interface wise.

Ian

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 outlawtx@bga.com wrote:

> In my natd setup, natd_interface = fxp0.  What the hell is fxp0?
> 
> When I run /etc/rc.firewall, I get this error message:
> 
> ipfw: warning: interface "fxp0" does not exist.
> 
> Also, how do I determine the current setting of natd_interface is I am
> running bash?
> 
> Thanks for you help,
> 
> Don James
> 
> 
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Hi,

    Try booting with the generic kernel, and you will see the cpu class used
in the boot process.

Have Fun...
Ales

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>
> Hello, Ive searched the mailing list archives and scanned the BSD
> handbook, and have tried all the suggestions, and Im still having trouble,
> so please help me out if you can.
>
> I have an AMD K6-2 400mhz
>
> I have been trying to enable sound on my system, so I was building a
> custom kernel (also to get rid of all the devices im not using) and I
> I have entered:
>
> machine         "i386"
> #cpu            "I386_CPU"
> #cpu            "I486_CPU"
> #cpu             "I586_CPU"
> cpu            "I686_CPU"
>
> when I rebooted, I got this error:
>
> --
> CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (unknown-class CPU)
> ..... ....  ...
> .... ..... ...
> panic: CPU class not configured!
> --
>
> So after reading the posts in the mailing list archives that matched my
> problem, I noticed that some of the suggestions were that the AMB K6-2
> might be an I586_CPU as far as BSD was concered (but it really isnt) so I
> tried uncommenting the I586_CPU and commenting out the I686_CPU
> refference. I got the same panic.
>
> Can someone help me get my CPU specified, so I can see if my attempt at
> getting the AWE 64 working was even succesfull?
>
> Please send responses to my email address since I am not subscribed to the
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> Thanks in advance for any help
>
> - Nick Jennings
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Not with my (present) level of familiarity with the system!
Precisely the sort of answer I would expect from you, Sheldon. Thanks.

( Hmmmm. Is there an index to what may be retrieved from this resource? )

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>
>
>On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:50:27 PST, "Erik Stainsby" wrote:
>
>> Would someone -not- mind sending me a copy of a clean
>> /etc/defaults/rc.conf ?
>
>But you can pick it up for yourself. :-)
>
> fetch -o rc.conf
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>
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I second that...the 600E has a NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AV (per IBM
website)  which works well at 1024x768/16.  I have a 1552 with the
same adapter...the mouse setting that seems to work is /dev/psm0 with
Microsoft protocol.  I am curious to find out if you have your
cardbus support working at this point?  I think the 600E and 1552
both have the O2Micro OZ6832/6833 Cardbus Controller...Did you
apply the earlier 2.2.7 patch? or is there some other workaround?

Thanks

- Mike Whitley  

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:

> I am using this laptop and it is the neomagic card.  I have it set at
> 1024x768 with 16m color.  Very nice display.  Make sure you are using the
> latest Xfree though and you want the SVGA server set to 16m.  Hope that
> helps.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Bill Woods wrote:
> 
> > Anyone here managee to get X going on an IBM Thinkpad 600E? What video
> > card does this thing have and what is supported by X?
> > 
> > William
> > 
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	I've setup several small servers on laptops and they work great,
especially if you have a lot of power outtage probelms, or limited room,
plus you have better bragging rights...... :)



At 02:40 PM 11/19/99 +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>I run 3.3 STABLE on a Toshiba Satellite 4010CDT.  I hear Toshiba is
>alterna-OS friendly, and i would have to agree.  Hardware config was easy,
>with just a little extra work needed for the PCMCIA card.  Display is
>beautiful on Xwindows.
>
>Why would you run a server on a laptop though?  Wouldn't a desktop box be
>more reliable under heavy loads?
>
>
>On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, FreeBSD mailing list wrote:
>
>>
>>I am buying a notebook on which I Want to install FreeBSD as permanent  
>>server at my job site.
>>I wanted to ask if someone can suggest me some particular model on which
>>FreeBSD runs without any troubles.
>>In particular if someone can suggest me a good PCMCIA fast ethernet card.
>>Then I Wanted to ask if I might have some problem using X11 on the
>>notebook given the particular type of display.
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>Rick
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Actually I am not using cardbus for this laptop.  I am using the standard
pc-card setup with FreeBSD 3.3 -stable.  I believe cardbus is not yet
supported under PAO as well as -stable.  From reading -current they are
working on bringing in cardbus support.  Although cardbus controllers will
still work with the pc-card setup since they should be backward
compatible.

Thanks

Chris

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Mike Whitley wrote:

> 
> I second that...the 600E has a NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AV (per IBM
> website)  which works well at 1024x768/16.  I have a 1552 with the
> same adapter...the mouse setting that seems to work is /dev/psm0 with
> Microsoft protocol.  I am curious to find out if you have your
> cardbus support working at this point?  I think the 600E and 1552
> both have the O2Micro OZ6832/6833 Cardbus Controller...Did you
> apply the earlier 2.2.7 patch? or is there some other workaround?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> - Mike Whitley  
> 
> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
> 
> > I am using this laptop and it is the neomagic card.  I have it set at
> > 1024x768 with 16m color.  Very nice display.  Make sure you are using the
> > latest Xfree though and you want the SVGA server set to 16m.  Hope that
> > helps.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Bill Woods wrote:
> > 
> > > Anyone here managee to get X going on an IBM Thinkpad 600E? What video
> > > card does this thing have and what is supported by X?
> > > 
> > > William
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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On Friday, 19 November 1999 at  1:28:22 +0300, Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 05:23:15PM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
>>>>>>>> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
>>>>>>> I mean this situation:
>>>>>>> I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
>>>>>>> to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).
>>>>>> Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?
>>>>> Could you give me short example?
>>>> OK, here's copyme.c:
> [skip]
>>>> And here's what happens when I run it:
>>>>  $ copyme foo
>>>>  $ cmp copyme foo
>>>>  $ ls -l copyme foo
>>>>  -rwxrwxrwx  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 copyme
>>>>  -r--------  1 grog  eng  4197 Nov 18 15:44 foo
>>>>  $
>>>> Not much use, is it?  Was that your class assignment?
>>> Heh, and now put it into PATH...
>>> and
>>> $ copyme foo
>>> Can't open copyme: No such file or directory
>>> Everything is not that easy.
>> That wasn't the question.  But it can be fixed.  How about you doing
>> it?
>
> If i knew how to do it, i didn't came here.

You still haven't answered my question: What are you trying to do, and
why?

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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>> Can't open copyme: No such file or directory
>>>> Everything is not that easy.
>>> That wasn't the question.  But it can be fixed.  How about you doing

What happened here?  Does he need a rehash command?  WHy can't it find
copyme? (I'm just trying to learn something from all of this)
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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:49:58 PST, "Erik Stainsby" wrote:

> Not with my (present) level of familiarity with the system!
> Precisely the sort of answer I would expect from you, Sheldon. Thanks.

I hope that doesn't mean you think I give condescending answers.  I make
a point of keeping my mouth shut if I can't offer anything constructive.

> ( Hmmmm. Is there an index to what may be retrieved from this
> resource? )

Yup.

	http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi

You can use it to browse the source trees of:

	FreeBSD
	NetBSD
	OpenBSD
	4.4BSD-Lite2

The only problem, I think, is that it requires familiarity with the
layout of our source tree. :-(

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(this was also posted to freebsd-security yesterday)

Hello,

	Has anyone gotten OpenSSH (v1.2) to work with KRB5?  I have
defined Kerberos by typing 'make KERBEROS=YES' and it defaults to
KerberosIV as such in /usr/ports/security/openssh/ (on a 3.3-STABLE
system running Kerberos 5):

-=-
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/..
-I/usr/local/include -DKRB4 -I/usr/include/kerberosIV
-I/usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/.. -I/usr/local/include
-I/usr/local/usr/include -c
/usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/../authfd.c -o authfd.o
In file included from
/usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/../authfd.c:19:
/usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/../ssh.h:549: krb.h: No such file
or directory
In file included from
/usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/../authfd.c:19:
/usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/../ssh.h:554: parse error before
`KTEXT'
*** Error code 1
-=-

(BTW = I have KRB5_HOME defined in /etc/make.conf)

	If there is a OpenSSH mailing list that this would be better
served in, let me know (I couldn't find one on the OpenSSH web site).

Thanks! - Peter
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Rob & Becky Dunn (robdunn@powerup.com.au) tapped away happily, and came up with:

> Hi,
> 	Do you have any details of procedures you used to manage FreeBSD
> development and releases using CVS please ?  .e.g branching/ merging/ ...

I'd also be very interested as I'm planning to base release management
for some software on the BSD model.

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Leon.

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Chris -

Do you have your 600E working with a "PCMCIA" Ethernet card?
If so, what steps did you go through to get it working?  I
basically installed 3.3-stable/then the PAO binaries/then
the PAO sources.  I since have been going thru kernel recompiles
to try and get /dev/pcic0 recognized.  Unfortunately, I have
had no luck...that's when I saw that there were some earlier
patches available for 2.2.7 to patch relavent source and header
files.  Did you patch 3.3 or was it an "out of box" situation?
Sorry for the continued questions...I've done tons of Desktops
with FreeBSD but this is my first laptop.

Thanks

- Mike Whitley


On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:

> Actually I am not using cardbus for this laptop.  I am using the standard
> pc-card setup with FreeBSD 3.3 -stable.  I believe cardbus is not yet
> supported under PAO as well as -stable.  From reading -current they are
> working on bringing in cardbus support.  Although cardbus controllers will
> still work with the pc-card setup since they should be backward
> compatible.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Mike Whitley wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I second that...the 600E has a NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AV (per IBM
> > website)  which works well at 1024x768/16.  I have a 1552 with the
> > same adapter...the mouse setting that seems to work is /dev/psm0 with
> > Microsoft protocol.  I am curious to find out if you have your
> > cardbus support working at this point?  I think the 600E and 1552
> > both have the O2Micro OZ6832/6833 Cardbus Controller...Did you
> > apply the earlier 2.2.7 patch? or is there some other workaround?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > - Mike Whitley  
> > 
> > On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
> > 
> > > I am using this laptop and it is the neomagic card.  I have it set at
> > > 1024x768 with 16m color.  Very nice display.  Make sure you are using the
> > > latest Xfree though and you want the SVGA server set to 16m.  Hope that
> > > helps.
> > > 
> > > Chris
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Bill Woods wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Anyone here managee to get X going on an IBM Thinkpad 600E? What video
> > > > card does this thing have and what is supported by X?
> > > > 
> > > > William
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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Got these messages last night about one minute after
a backup to tape started. Could someone tell me what they 
mean?

Running 3.3-RELEASE.

/kernel: (sa0:ahc1:0:6:0): SCB 0x8 - timed out while
idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SEQADDR == 0xa
/kernel: (sa0:ahc1:0:6:0): Queuing a BDR SCB
/kernel: (sa0:ahc1:0:6:0): Bus Device Reset Message
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...what would you use?

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On Friday, 19 November 1999 at 16:16:49 +0000, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>>> Can't open copyme: No such file or directory
>>>>> Everything is not that easy.
>>>> That wasn't the question.  But it can be fixed.  How about you doing
>
> What happened here?  Does he need a rehash command?  WHy can't it find
> copyme? (I'm just trying to learn something from all of this)

No, he didn't do anything wrong, except to expect me to write a
perfect program instead of an example.  The relevant part of the code
is:

  main (int argc, char *argv [])
  {
    int me = open (argv [0], O_RDONLY);
 
argv [0] gets set to the name of the program (copyme).  If I start it
via PATH, it's still just "copyme".  open(2) will fail if it doesn't
find it in the current directory, and worse, if it *does* find a file
of the same name, it will open it instead of the correct file.

Greg
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Ah, makes perfect sense.  Thanks.

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote:
>  main (int argc, char *argv [])
>  {
>    int me = open (argv [0], O_RDONLY);
> 
>argv [0] gets set to the name of the program (copyme).  If I start it
>via PATH, it's still just "copyme".  open(2) will fail if it doesn't
>find it in the current directory, and worse, if it *does* find a file
>of the same name, it will open it instead of the correct file.
>
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Attached is my config file for my laptop.  This is an out of box
situation.  I am using the xircom 10/100 card and a 3com xjack modem.  
All done with a little tinkering with pccard.conf.  Make sure you are
loading the pccard module configuring pccard to work properly.

Hope this helps

Chris


On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Mike Whitley wrote:

> Chris -
> 
> Do you have your 600E working with a "PCMCIA" Ethernet card?
> If so, what steps did you go through to get it working?  I
> basically installed 3.3-stable/then the PAO binaries/then
> the PAO sources.  I since have been going thru kernel recompiles
> to try and get /dev/pcic0 recognized.  Unfortunately, I have
> had no luck...that's when I saw that there were some earlier
> patches available for 2.2.7 to patch relavent source and header
> files.  Did you patch 3.3 or was it an "out of box" situation?
> Sorry for the continued questions...I've done tons of Desktops
> with FreeBSD but this is my first laptop.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> - Mike Whitley
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
> 
> > Actually I am not using cardbus for this laptop.  I am using the standard
> > pc-card setup with FreeBSD 3.3 -stable.  I believe cardbus is not yet
> > supported under PAO as well as -stable.  From reading -current they are
> > working on bringing in cardbus support.  Although cardbus controllers will
> > still work with the pc-card setup since they should be backward
> > compatible.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Mike Whitley wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I second that...the 600E has a NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AV (per IBM
> > > website)  which works well at 1024x768/16.  I have a 1552 with the
> > > same adapter...the mouse setting that seems to work is /dev/psm0 with
> > > Microsoft protocol.  I am curious to find out if you have your
> > > cardbus support working at this point?  I think the 600E and 1552
> > > both have the O2Micro OZ6832/6833 Cardbus Controller...Did you
> > > apply the earlier 2.2.7 patch? or is there some other workaround?
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > - Mike Whitley  
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I am using this laptop and it is the neomagic card.  I have it set at
> > > > 1024x768 with 16m color.  Very nice display.  Make sure you are using the
> > > > latest Xfree though and you want the SVGA server set to 16m.  Hope that
> > > > helps.
> > > > 
> > > > Chris
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Bill Woods wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Anyone here managee to get X going on an IBM Thinkpad 600E? What video
> > > > > card does this thing have and what is supported by X?
> > > > > 
> > > > > William
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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Are you sure the timezone is properly set?

-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Mark Einreinhof [SMTP:mark@cx559415-b.ftwal1.fl.home.com]
> Sent:	Friday, November 19, 1999 8:06 AM
> To:	Freebsd-Questions
> Subject:	Date problem
> 
> My FreeBSD3.2 box seems to have a date problem. About every other week
> I have to go in and change the date back one day. Currently, it thinks
> today is 20Nov instead of 19Nov. I booted and went into the bios and
> the bios is reporting the correct date, 19Nov. Is FreeBSD goofing up
> the date or is my simple little machine being broken into and the
> perpetrator changing the date?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> **********************************************
> The box said "requires Win95 or better"...
> So I installed it on FreeBSD;-)
> 'Anonymous'
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> 
> 
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> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:49:58 PST, "Erik Stainsby" wrote:

> > Precisely the sort of answer I would expect from you, Sheldon. Thanks.
>
> I hope that doesn't mean you think I give condescending answers.  I make
> a point of keeping my mouth shut if I can't offer anything constructive.

No actually, I mean that I expect you to give me a "Here's the tool so you
can learn to fish for yourself" kind of answers ...

Initially this sort of thing can be alientating (Read the manual ... [EOF])
but in the long run it is much more efficient for all concerned.  I also
recognize the breadth and numbers of posts you juggle personally.  I am not
so vain as to take offense at a brief reply.

Sail on! You're doing a great job. You are doubtless appreciated by the
silent majority.


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The K6 series of CPU's (K6, K6-2, K6-III) are all 586 class cpu's.

-Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Nick Jennings [SMTP:nick@namodn.com]
> Sent:	Friday, November 19, 1999 2:55 AM
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> 
> 
> Hello, Ive searched the mailing list archives and scanned the BSD
> handbook, and have tried all the suggestions, and Im still having trouble,
> 
> so please help me out if you can.
> 
> I have an AMD K6-2 400mhz
> 
> I have been trying to enable sound on my system, so I was building a
> custom kernel (also to get rid of all the devices im not using) and I
> I have entered:
> 
> machine         "i386"
> #cpu            "I386_CPU"
> #cpu            "I486_CPU"
> #cpu             "I586_CPU"
> cpu            "I686_CPU"
> 
> when I rebooted, I got this error:
> 
> --
> 	CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (unknown-class CPU)
> 		..... ....  ...
> 		.... ..... ...
> 	panic: CPU class not configured!
> --
> 
> So after reading the posts in the mailing list archives that matched my
> problem, I noticed that some of the suggestions were that the AMB K6-2
> might be an I586_CPU as far as BSD was concered (but it really isnt) so I
> tried uncommenting the I586_CPU and commenting out the I686_CPU
> refference. I got the same panic.
> 
> Can someone help me get my CPU specified, so I can see if my attempt at
> getting the AWE 64 working was even succesfull?
> 
> Please send responses to my email address since I am not subscribed to the
> list.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help
> 
> - Nick Jennings
> - nick@namodn.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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	If you added the bin & sources you just need to recompile a new kernel.
Use the PAO kernel file in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, its the same as the
GERERIC kernel but with PC card support. There's also a BIOS upgrade from
IBM, and I believe it adds a setting for a non-pnp os, but I'm not sure if
this had any effect, this was a few months ago...






At 08:30 AM 11/19/99 -0800, Mike Whitley wrote:
>Chris -
>
>Do you have your 600E working with a "PCMCIA" Ethernet card?
>If so, what steps did you go through to get it working?  I
>basically installed 3.3-stable/then the PAO binaries/then
>the PAO sources.  I since have been going thru kernel recompiles
>to try and get /dev/pcic0 recognized.  Unfortunately, I have
>had no luck...that's when I saw that there were some earlier
>patches available for 2.2.7 to patch relavent source and header
>files.  Did you patch 3.3 or was it an "out of box" situation?
>Sorry for the continued questions...I've done tons of Desktops
>with FreeBSD but this is my first laptop.
>
>Thanks
>
>- Mike Whitley
>
>
>On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
>
>> Actually I am not using cardbus for this laptop.  I am using the standard
>> pc-card setup with FreeBSD 3.3 -stable.  I believe cardbus is not yet
>> supported under PAO as well as -stable.  From reading -current they are
>> working on bringing in cardbus support.  Although cardbus controllers will
>> still work with the pc-card setup since they should be backward
>> compatible.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Mike Whitley wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> > I second that...the 600E has a NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AV (per IBM
>> > website)  which works well at 1024x768/16.  I have a 1552 with the
>> > same adapter...the mouse setting that seems to work is /dev/psm0 with
>> > Microsoft protocol.  I am curious to find out if you have your
>> > cardbus support working at this point?  I think the 600E and 1552
>> > both have the O2Micro OZ6832/6833 Cardbus Controller...Did you
>> > apply the earlier 2.2.7 patch? or is there some other workaround?
>> > 
>> > Thanks
>> > 
>> > - Mike Whitley  
>> > 
>> > On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
>> > 
>> > > I am using this laptop and it is the neomagic card.  I have it set at
>> > > 1024x768 with 16m color.  Very nice display.  Make sure you are
using the
>> > > latest Xfree though and you want the SVGA server set to 16m.  Hope that
>> > > helps.
>> > > 
>> > > Chris
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Bill Woods wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > > Anyone here managee to get X going on an IBM Thinkpad 600E? What
video
>> > > > card does this thing have and what is supported by X?
>> > > > 
>> > > > William
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
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After reading that I was hoping someone could give me some assistance.  I
would like to run bind in a sandbox.

My problem is that I am on a dynamic IP and when I run it in a sandbox, it
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Does anyone know of a way around this?  (does bind need to listen to port 53
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Mike Harding [SMTP:mvh@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, November 18, 1999 11:41 PM
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> Did you read the isc release about what the latest patches fix?
> Pretty scary...
> 
>    Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
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I have a chance to buy a "cellular kit" from my cell provider, but before
I do, I want to ask a few questions.

This "kit" is basically a cable that runs from the serial port on a laptop
to the cell phone. There is some software, but oif course it is windows
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the cable acts like a modem on a serial port, but does anyone know if
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I am trying to install FreeBSD Release 3.3 on a Compaq Proliant 5000 with a SMART 2/P RAID controller but the boot floppy is not able to recognize the RAID controller. 

The Release Notes for 3.3-RELEASE says that support has been added for Compaq SMART Raid family of RAID controlleres but when I go into userconfig in VISUAL mode, at install time, I do not see the Compaq RAID driver under active drivers. 

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I would like to set up RAID 0+1.  I first wanted to use the UDMA66 controler
from promise but it looks like it only runs under Windows.
I was also looking at a scsi160 hard drive and wondered if there is a RAID
controler that will work with FreeBSD.  If not what is a good scsi2 RAID
controler?

By the way this machine will be an Athlon 650 256MB RAM



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In the last episode (Nov 19), baskaran.vellandurai@Covance.Com said:
> I am trying to install FreeBSD 3.3RELEASE on a Compaq Proliant 5000
> with two processors but the boot floppy is not recognizing the second
> processor.

The boot floppy is built for a single processor, since you don't need
two processors to boot and it would just waste space on the floppy.
 
> Can Release 3.3 run in SMP mode on this machine? If not can it safely
> run using just one processor since there is no way to disable the
> second processor in the BIOS.

Once you've installed the system, recompile a kernel with SMP enabled.

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A few things:

1) Learn to hit enter every 72 chars or so.

2) it's kernel, not kernal

3) it's FreeBSD, not Free BSD.

4) FreeBSD is an Unix descendant, and Unix is not similar to DOS or
   Windows, although you can use some DOS and Windows software under
   FreeBSD, it is not meant to do so.

5) This is the documentation effort mailinglist, not the ask questions,
   get answers list.  I cc:'d this email to that list.

-On [19991118 22:19], Dipen Shah (kamdip@cetlink.net) wrote:
>I purchased Free BSD 4 cd set in amazon.com acutions. According to
>instructions on the cd cover. I created 'Kernal' amd "Mfs Root"
>floppies. I put the Kernal floppy in the sustem and started. After that
>it asked me second flopy. I put that and and pressed enter. After some
>time the bsd menu appeared I create partition and selected express mode
>for installation The first C.D soft ware is installed. After restarting
>my computer It is asking loging and password. I created new user but it
>is not accepting. 

You have made an user, type in the username and its password and it
should work.  Else try root with the password you were asked to type in
during installation.

>Main thing I am not comming out of this unix to Windows and Dos. Could
>you please help me how to come out of unix to either Windows or Dos.

No, simply because you can't.  www.freebsd.org/handbook should enlighten
you.

>Also I am not getting c prompt.  Please send me information about how
>to get c:> prompt or how to enter windows mode.

You can't.  FreeBSD is _not_ Windows, thank god not.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
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Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 9:19 AM
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> After reading that I was hoping someone could give me some assistance.  I
> would like to run bind in a sandbox.
>
> My problem is that I am on a dynamic IP and when I run it in a sandbox, it
> complains about not being able to bind to port 53 for the new address on
the
> interface.
> Does anyone know of a way around this?  (does bind need to listen to port
53
> on the outside interface)?
>
> Thanks,
> -Chris

Whether BIND needs to be run on the outside interface depends on whether you
are running a public nameserver for a registered domain or a private
nameserver for a private network.  As long as BIND can route its' queries to
the outside, it can be run on a reserved network address.  If you are trying
to serve the outside with info about your own domain however you will need
to bind to a public network "real" IP address.

If this latter is your scenario, and you are trying to do this on a dynamic
IP (which will
-=not=- satisfy InterNIC for a primary domain server ... ) somehow you will
need to discover the assigned address on that external device, reconfigure
the named file and start/restart named --  each time the IP on that device
changes.

Good luck,
Erik



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On Friday, 19 November 1999 at 11:43:04 -0500, Ben Rosengart wrote:
> ...what would you use?
>
> I want to be able to gather long-term I/O and CPU utilization
> statistics.

Currently, acct and sa.

The source for sar will be released as Open Source in the near
future.  Possibly somebody will then port it to FreeBSD.

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   Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:33:11 +0000 (GMT)
   From: Mark Powell <M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk>

   Yeah, I've seen the errata.

But you didn't say so.  Nor did you give any information that distinguished
your case from the one in the errata.  We're happy to help if we can, but
we're not psychic.

   Yeah, I've seen the errata. That's why I'm using the later version of the
   3.3 CD. However, that too does not work. The errata states that the
   original 3.3 CD fails to boot on ATAPI CDROMS, but works on SCSI. I am
   using the later version of the CD and SCSI, but it still does not work.
   The errata is wrong.

As best I can tell, the errata is completely correct.  As I already admitted
in the previous paragraph, it doesn't describe your situation, but that is
an entirely different point.

Please try reposting with more details.  There's a very nice periodic post
on how to get the best results from -questions, as well as complete archives
of previous questions.  Please check those to figure out which details to
give, and hopefully we'll be better able to help on another attempt.

Be well.


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On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 11:10:26AM -0500, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Is there correct way for porgram to read from it's own file?
> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure I understand.  What do you mean by "it's own file"?
> >>>>>>>> If you mean the object file, sure.  Where's the problem?
> >>>>>>> I mean this situation:
> >>>>>>> I have some program /usr/local/bin/someprog. Is there a way for it
> >>>>>>> to read from itself (from /usr/local/bin/someprog).
> >>>>>> Sure, that's what I said.  What do you expect to find?
> >>>>> Could you give me short example?
> >>>> OK, here's copyme.c:
> > [skip]
> You still haven't answered my question: What are you trying to do, and
> why?

Did you hear of executable compressor named "UPX"? Recently version was
made for Linux, and i wish to help author with enough info to make it
work under FreeBSD without recompiling it. Soon, when they release 1.0 with
sources this problems will go away by themselves.

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outlawtx@bga.com writes:

> In my natd setup, natd_interface = fxp0.  What the hell is fxp0?

RTFM.  You could start with "man fxp".  fxp is the device for some
kinds of Intel 825xx-based ethernet cards.

> When I run /etc/rc.firewall, I get this error message:
> 
> ipfw: warning: interface "fxp0" does not exist.

You don't have a working device of this sort.  There are a number of
possibilities.  Maybe you don't have such a card, maybe you don't have
it configured into the kernel, maybe it's disabled, maybe the device
itself is not configured.  I can't tell from here.

The handbook sections on networking might be of help, depending on how
far you'd gotten previously.

> Also, how do I determine the current setting of natd_interface is I am
> running bash?

*Your* shell is irrelevant.  natd_interface is only defined in terms
of the startup scripts, which are executed by /bin/sh.  You can change
the setting of natd_interface in your rc.conf and reboot, if you
really want to know what the value was actually executed as, but
setting the *variable* has no meaning after rc.network is executed at
startup.

[Actually, I suspect I'm misunderstanding the question, but I'm taking
my best guess at what you really need to know.]

Good luck.


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I'm using "dump" to backup users' e-mail nightly.  Unfortunately this
changes the last-accessed time of their INBOX so that their shell only
reports "You have mail" instead of "You have new mail" when they log in. 
(Say they receive new mail at 2:55a and the backup is done at 3:00a.  The
last-accessed time is greater than the last-modified time, so the shell
assumes the user has already read his latest mail.) 

Surely I'm not the only dope who's wondered about this.  How do you do a
backup without munging the last-accessed time on files? 



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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 baskaran.vellandurai@Covance.Com wrote:

> I am trying to install FreeBSD 3.3RELEASE on a Compaq Proliant
> 5000 with two processors but the boot floppy is not recognizing
> the second processor.
> 
> Can Release 3.3 run in SMP mode on this machine? 
> If not can it safely run using just one processor since there is
> no way to disable the second processor in the BIOS.
> 
> Please HELP! Thanks.


Please wrap lines at 70 characters. :)

Ok, the boot floppies aren't compiled for dual processor machines last
I checked, you'll have to uncomment some lines from the GENERIC kernel
and recompile to get it going with the second CPU.

-Alfred



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Oleg V. Volkov wrote:

>Did you hear of executable compressor named "UPX"? Recently version was
>made for Linux, and i wish to help author with enough info to make it
>work under FreeBSD without recompiling it. Soon, when they release 1.0 with
>sources this problems will go away by themselves.

Executable compressor?  I thought DOS with tiny floppies was dead? :)
I don't think such a thing is useful; if it works at all, if would
dynamically generate the actual executable segments (code, data, bss
and whatever is hiding in today's elf stuff) defeating the system's
cache mechanisms for sharing code pages among multiple running
processes of the same executable image etc. which might especially
be critical since you probably want to compress very large object
files.  Other disadvantages might come into action.
I don't think it makes sense at all generally in the days of very
cheap multi-gigabyte disks and object files contribute only marginally
to a typical filesystem fillage (mp3 files collections being much more
space hungry on many personal systems).

mkb


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Hello!

I own the domain name http://pointme.to  It is
designed to offer people an easy to remember URL to
access information on the web.  Recently I've had
people try to use pointme.to/freebsd , which I don't
have set up on the server.  I wanted to get your
permission to create http://pointme.to/freebsd and use
zero-based frames featuring your page.  Take a look at
http://pointme.to/music as an example.

The frames page would be set up with target=_parent so
once someone hits something on your page they are
moved off pointme.to/freebsd right to your domain.  

Looking forward to hearing back from you!




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Hi,

    Try mrtg it can read snmp packets and it can also read the output of
some program (like ping, uptime, etc, etc).

/usr/ports/net/mrtg

or

http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html

Have Fun...
Ales

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> I have been looking at a tool (looks to be solaris only)
> that monitors all system resources and gives reports.
> http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/
>
> Is there anything like this for FreeBSD? Would be a great
> aid in identifying bottlenecks/performance issues.
>
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Hello all,

I just installed FreeBSD3.3 (October release) on our flashy new mail server.
For some reason however, the drive light (wired from the motherboard) never
turns off. I'm wondering if this should be a cause of worry :) It's on even
when the entire system really is doing nothing and it's off when the system
boots (until it starts mounting the drives)

There are 4 drives. 1floppy, 1 ATAPI CDrom and 2 seagate scsi hard drives.
SCSI is on the motherboard:
L440GX+ Intel board with Pentium III 450.

ahc0: <Adaptec aic7896/97 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.12.
0
ahc0: aic7896/97 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
ahc1: <Adaptec aic7896/97 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.12.
1
ahc1: aic7896/97 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs

<snip>

npx0 on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
Waiting 3 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
changing root device to da0s1a
da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <SEAGATE ST34520W 1498> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
da1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da1: <SEAGATE ST34520W 1498> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
da1: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)


I have the same CDROM drive at home running FreeBSD and the drive light turns
on/off with system activity. But here I'm stumped.

The manufacturer said that there was no problems in their shop ("yeah the light
went blinky blink when I installed NT") so I'm going under the assumption that
it is wired correctly.

This happens with the default Boot Kernel and with my custom kernel.

I've searched the mail archive and have not found anything yet. I appreciate
any help you can give me. Need more info?

cheers,

	=derek

Monster By Mistake Inc > 'digital plumber'
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Thank you, this looks like exactly what I need.  Though it will
certainly be nice if and when sar itself is present on FreeBSD, so I can
use the same tool across platforms.

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Matthias Buelow wrote at 20:18 +0100 on Nov 19:
 > Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
 > 
 > >Did you hear of executable compressor named "UPX"? Recently version was
 > >made for Linux, and i wish to help author with enough info to make it
 > >work under FreeBSD without recompiling it. Soon, when they release 1.0 with
 > >sources this problems will go away by themselves.
 > 
 > Executable compressor?  I thought DOS with tiny floppies was dead? :)

man gzexe (from the gzip contrib stuff)...

 > I don't think such a thing is useful;

it's quite handy given the right situation


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Hello!

I have read about cvsup and tested it.
But I think I didn't understand it right!
From my stable-supfile:

*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3
*default delete use-rel-suffix
src-all

I thought this would upgrade the ports collection!
But from what I understand it didn't ?
Can someone help me with the syntax ? (staying stable)

//thx Johan




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 What I dare to ask you about would anyone of you who he is
 sure about his port tree being fresh and correct send
 me his output of ls -al /usr/ports.Then I could compare
 it directly with mine and so it is the last decisive
 examination.
 
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You need ports-all in there as well.

Check www.postra.com for examples (good ones in the FAQ!)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Johan Pettersson wrote:

>Hello!
>
>I have read about cvsup and tested it.
>But I think I didn't understand it right!
>From my stable-supfile:
>
>*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
>*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org
>*default base=/usr
>*default prefix=/usr
>*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3
>*default delete use-rel-suffix
>src-all
>
>I thought this would upgrade the ports collection!
>But from what I understand it didn't ?
>Can someone help me with the syntax ? (staying stable)
>
>//thx Johan
>
>
>
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>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:44:39 +0000 (GMT)
>From: Jonathon McKitrick <jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
>
>I've seen a lot about this lately, and I've heard it said that 'free
>memory is wasted memory'.

Seems trivially true, no? 

>If this is the case, does this mean FreeBSD keeps everything possible in
>memory and then swaps out to VM when it needs more?  

This is a badly-worded question -- that, in itself, indicates some of what
you're missing.  VM *is* memory; the 'M' *stands* for the word "memory."
Specifically, VM is an abstraction of memory space that allows parts of
that space to be kept in different kinds of storage at any particular
time.  And, to a zeroth approximation, you're about right; FreeBSD keeps
useable data in nearly every RAM page and uses swap space on disk to back
up pages when it needs to reuse them for something new.

That's only a rough approximation, though.  Pages can get swapped to disk
well before they're needed for other purposes, and then there's no wait on
the disk write before they can be re-used.  They don't have to be cleared
immediately, though, so if the original task accesses the page before it's
needed for anything else, that page is still in RAM (and the swap copy of
the page is invalidated).

This is *still* a very rough description, but I think it answers your
actual questions.

>                                                     How are unnecessary
>page faults and disk accesses avoided with this method?

Quite well.  A RAM page is never assigned to a new use unless that that
use *needed* RAM.  [I realize I'm being a little disinguous here; the
problem is not when to reassign a page, but which one to reassign.  Making
that guess is a rather complicated statistical problem, but amounts to
guessing which current page is least likely to be needed again soon.]

>I am a bit of a neophyte, but I am right in the middle of an 'Intro to
>Operating Systems' course, and we just finished memory mgmt and virtual
>memory.

You might want to discuss some of this with your professor rather than a
bunch of people who don't know you and can't see you to pick up on body
language.  

Be well.


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Hello,

	I have a Sound Blaster AWE 64, trying to get it working in
FreeBSD, from what I gather in the mailing list archives and in the
FreeBSD Handbook, this is what I've done so far:

I put the following in my custom kernel:

# sound card setup
controller snd0
device sb0 at isa? port0x220 irq 5 drq 1
device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5
device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330
device opl0 at isa? port 0x388
device awe0 at isa? port 0x620


---
From a post in the mailing list archive, I was told to do the following:

make a file in /boot/ called kernel.conf and in it, put the following:

pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388
pnp 1 1 os disable
pnp 1 2 os enable port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20
pnp 1 3 os disable
quit


---
After compiling the kernel I then did the following:
# cd /dev
# sh MAKEDEV snd0


---
And then in the /boot/loader.rc enter the following:

load /kernel
load -t userconfig_script /boot/kernel.conf
autoboot 5


---
when I went to put that in the loader.rc, there was already some entries
in there, so I integrated the new lines so the file now looks like this:

--- BEGIN FILE ---

\ Loader.rc
\
\ Includes additional commands
include /boot/loader.4th

load /kernel
load -t userconfig_script /boot/kernel.conf
autoboot 5

\ Reads and processes loader.rc
start

\ Unless set otherwise, autoboot is automatic at this point

--- END FILE ----

I only mention that because it does seem to matter in what order things
are placed in that file.


---
when I rebooted, everything seemed to go ok, this is the output of the
the sound related detection:

sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster 16 4.16> 
sbxvi0 at drq 5 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster 16 4.16> 
sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa
snd0: <SoundBlaster MPU-401> 
opl0 at 0x388 on isa
snd0: <Yamaha OPL3 FM> 
awe0 at 0x620 on isa
awe0: <SoundBlaster EMU8000 MIDI (RAM512k)>

Ok, seems fine, but when I go to play something, either with waveplay or
mpg123 etc. this is the most common error:

Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?

that error repeats untill I cancel the attempt to play the music.
when I tried using xmms this error also came up which might give some sort
of clue:

cmd xmms pid 296 tried to use non-present sched_getscheduler


---
and thats it. Any ideas? Please respond directly to my email address, as I
am not subscribed to the mailing list. 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!


- Nick Jennings
- nick@namodn.com




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> I am trying to install FreeBSD Release 3.3 on a Compaq Proliant 5000 with a SMART 2/P RAID controller but the boot floppy is not able to recognize the RAID controller. 
> 
> The Release Notes for 3.3-RELEASE says that support has been added for Compaq SMART Raid family of RAID controlleres but when I go into userconfig in VISUAL mode, at install time, I do not see the Compaq RAID driver under active drivers. 
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Hello,

You really want to talk to www@freebsd.org about this.  We don't
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Johan Pettersson wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I have read about cvsup and tested it.
> But I think I didn't understand it right!
> >From my stable-supfile:
<SNIP>
> I thought this would upgrade the ports collection!
> But from what I understand it didn't ?
> Can someone help me with the syntax ? (staying stable)
> 

Take a look at /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile

Craig


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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

>>If this is the case, does this mean FreeBSD keeps everything possible in
>>memory and then swaps out to VM when it needs more?  
>
>This is a badly-worded question -- that, in itself, indicates some of what
>you're missing.  VM *is* memory; the 'M' *stands* for the word "memory."

OK, i meant swaps it to _disk_ here...

>Specifically, VM is an abstraction of memory space that allows parts of
>that space to be kept in different kinds of storage at any particular

>That's only a rough approximation, though.  Pages can get swapped to disk
>well before they're needed for other purposes, and then there's no wait on
>the disk write before they can be re-used.  They don't have to be cleared
>immediately, though, so if the original task accesses the page before it's
>needed for anything else, that page is still in RAM (and the swap copy of
>the page is invalidated).

If pages are swapped to disk before they are needed, then there *IS* a
wait on the disk write before the can be re-used, correct?

>>                                                     How are unnecessary
>>page faults and disk accesses avoided with this method?
>
>Quite well.  A RAM page is never assigned to a new use unless that that
>use *needed* RAM.  [I realize I'm being a little disinguous here; the
>problem is not when to reassign a page, but which one to reassign.  Making
>that guess is a rather complicated statistical problem, but amounts to
>guessing which current page is least likely to be needed again soon.]

FIFO, LRU, Second Chance, etc.
And i don't quite understand that second sentences.. typo, maybe?

>>I am a bit of a neophyte, but I am right in the middle of an 'Intro to
>>Operating Systems' course, and we just finished memory mgmt and virtual
>>memory.
>
>You might want to discuss some of this with your professor rather than a
>bunch of people who don't know you and can't see you to pick up on body
>language.  

I didn't realize body language could cause such a misinterpretation of
email.  ;-)

-jm

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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Johan Pettersson wrote: 
>Hello!
>
>I have read about cvsup and tested it.
>But I think I didn't understand it right!
>From my stable-supfile:
>
>*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
>*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org
>*default base=/usr
>*default prefix=/usr
>*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3
>*default delete use-rel-suffix
>src-all

Add here the line:
ports-all tag=.

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John E. Hein wrote:

>man gzexe (from the gzip contrib stuff)...

IIRC gzexe uncompresses into a file and then runs this... from what
I understood, the "upx" compressor does not write files.

The gzexe method is still inefficient when the directory entry
is removed (either instantly to avoid turds lying around or at
program termination) since a new file (and hence cacheable object)
is created with each invocation.

>it's quite handy given the right situation

The right situation being a floppy disk or otherwise limited
environment where you must trade memory and performance in against
secondary storage space.

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On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 08:18:06PM +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote:
> Oleg V. Volkov wrote:
> >Did you hear of executable compressor named "UPX"? Recently version was
> >made for Linux, and i wish to help author with enough info to make it
> >work under FreeBSD without recompiling it. Soon, when they release 1.0 with
> >sources this problems will go away by themselves.
> Executable compressor?  I thought DOS with tiny floppies was dead? :)
> I don't think such a thing is useful; if it works at all, if would
> dynamically generate the actual executable segments (code, data, bss
> and whatever is hiding in today's elf stuff) defeating the system's
> cache mechanisms for sharing code pages among multiple running
> processes of the same executable image etc. which might especially
> be critical since you probably want to compress very large object
> files.  Other disadvantages might come into action.
> I don't think it makes sense at all generally in the days of very
> cheap multi-gigabyte disks and object files contribute only marginally
> to a typical filesystem fillage (mp3 files collections being much more
> space hungry on many personal systems).

Yeah, this mainly aimed at big things that have only few instances running
(emacs for example :P). BTW do not forget about bandwidth downloading 8mb
and 1,5 mb makes difference on 64k not to mention worse connections.

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On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 09:00:56PM +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote:
> John E. Hein wrote:
> 
> >man gzexe (from the gzip contrib stuff)...
> 
> IIRC gzexe uncompresses into a file and then runs this... from what
> I understood, the "upx" compressor does not write files.

Alas, it do write. However, compression rate should be better than gzip.

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>Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:01:32 +0000 (GMT)
>From: Jonathon McKitrick <jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
>
>On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
>
>>Specifically, VM is an abstraction of memory space that allows parts of
>>that space to be kept in different kinds of storage at any particular
>
>>That's only a rough approximation, though.  Pages can get swapped to disk
>>well before they're needed for other purposes, and then there's no wait on
>>the disk write before they can be re-used.  They don't have to be cleared
>>immediately, though, so if the original task accesses the page before it's
>>needed for anything else, that page is still in RAM (and the swap copy of
>>the page is invalidated).
>
>If pages are swapped to disk before they are needed, then there *IS* a
>wait on the disk write before the can be re-used, correct?

Yes.  To avoid needing to wait before giving memory to a task that needs
more, the system maintains a small pool of pages that have already been
zeroed.  This is the only *really* free RAM in the system.  It's what you
see as "free" in the output of top(1).

>>>                                                     How are unnecessary
>>>page faults and disk accesses avoided with this method?
>>
>>Quite well.  A RAM page is never assigned to a new use unless that that
>>use *needed* RAM.  [I realize I'm being a little disinguous here; the
>>problem is not when to reassign a page, but which one to reassign.  Making
>>that guess is a rather complicated statistical problem, but amounts to
>>guessing which current page is least likely to be needed again soon.]
>
>FIFO, LRU, Second Chance, etc.
>And i don't quite understand that second sentences.. typo, maybe?

No.  I used "use" as a noun, not a verb.  Replace it with "task" if you
prefer, although tasks aren't really the only things that can use memory.
The point I was making is that from one point of view, a page fault is
*never* unnecessary; it only happens because something needed the memory.

>I didn't realize body language could cause such a misinterpretation of
>email.  ;-)

It doesn't always, but it can help.  In this case, it would've stopped me
when you got confused about the part of speech for "use."  Unfortunately,
I'm American and thus you might consider me handicapped at communicating
in "English."  [Joking aside, I actually scored *very* high on it on my
'O' levels.  I'm not kidding about being American, though.]

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Sorry about the empty message.  I think I fixed the headers this time...

>Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:01:32 +0000 (GMT)
>From: Jonathon McKitrick <jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
>
>On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
>
>>Specifically, VM is an abstraction of memory space that allows parts of
>>that space to be kept in different kinds of storage at any particular
>
>>That's only a rough approximation, though.  Pages can get swapped to disk
>>well before they're needed for other purposes, and then there's no wait on
>>the disk write before they can be re-used.  They don't have to be cleared
>>immediately, though, so if the original task accesses the page before it's
>>needed for anything else, that page is still in RAM (and the swap copy of
>>the page is invalidated).
>
>If pages are swapped to disk before they are needed, then there *IS* a
>wait on the disk write before the can be re-used, correct?

Yes.  To avoid needing to wait before giving memory to a task that needs
more, the system maintains a small pool of pages that have already been
zeroed.  This is the only *really* free RAM in the system.  It's what you
see as "free" in the output of top(1).

>>>                                                     How are unnecessary
>>>page faults and disk accesses avoided with this method?
>>
>>Quite well.  A RAM page is never assigned to a new use unless that that
>>use *needed* RAM.  [I realize I'm being a little disinguous here; the
>>problem is not when to reassign a page, but which one to reassign.  Making
>>that guess is a rather complicated statistical problem, but amounts to
>>guessing which current page is least likely to be needed again soon.]
>
>FIFO, LRU, Second Chance, etc.
>And i don't quite understand that second sentences.. typo, maybe?

No.  I used "use" as a noun, not a verb.  Replace it with "task" if you
prefer, although tasks aren't really the only things that can use memory.
The point I was making is that from one point of view, a page fault is
*never* unnecessary; it only happens because something needed the memory.

>I didn't realize body language could cause such a misinterpretation of
>email.  ;-)

It doesn't always, but it can help.  In this case, it would've stopped me
when you got confused about the part of speech for "use."  Unfortunately,
I'm American and thus you might consider me handicapped at communicating
in "English."  [Joking aside, I actually scored *very* high on it on my
'O' levels.  I'm not kidding about being American, though.]

Be well.


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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> You need ports-all in there as well.
> 
> Check www.postra.com for examples (good ones in the FAQ!)

argh! John dammit...

that will wipe his ports tree afaik, what is most important
is the file should be changed to:

---

*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3
*default delete use-rel-suffix
src-all
*default tag=.
ports-all

---

without the second 'tag' line there's a good chance his
/usr/ports will be wiped out as there is no tag 'RELENG_3' 
in the ports cvs repo.

I know you're trying to be helpful, just also remeber to be
careful. :)

-Alfred

> 
> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Johan Pettersson wrote:
> 
> >Hello!
> >
> >I have read about cvsup and tested it.
> >But I think I didn't understand it right!
> >From my stable-supfile:
> >
> >*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
> >*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org
> >*default base=/usr
> >*default prefix=/usr
> >*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3
> >*default delete use-rel-suffix
> >src-all
> >
> >I thought this would upgrade the ports collection!
> >But from what I understand it didn't ?
> >Can someone help me with the syntax ? (staying stable)
> >
> >//thx Johan
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> 
> 
> -jm
> 
> ---------
> He who laughs last... obviously didn't get the joke.
> 
> 
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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:49:22 +0100, Ariel Burbaickij wrote:

>  Then I could compare it directly with mine and so it is the last
>  decisive examination.

The ports tree changes on a daily, often hourly basis.  If you can be
more specific about what you want, maybe we can help you.

Take a look at the CVSweb page, which allows you to examine the src and
ports trees online:

	http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi

Ciao,
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Erik Stainsby babbled:
> From: "Erik Stainsby" <stainsby@lets.net>
> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:50:15 -0800

> No actually, I mean that I expect you to give me a "Here's the tool so you
> can learn to fish for yourself" kind of answers ...
> 
> 
> Erik,
> ... learning quickly to fish for myself ...

Give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day;
Teach a man to fish, and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

Sorry, couldn't resist.


-- 
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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Jerry Dunham wrote:

>> ... learning quickly to fish for myself ...
>
>Give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day;
>Teach a man to fish, and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

Or...
Give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish and he'll resent you for the rest of his life.

>
>Sorry, couldn't resist.

Me either  ;-)

>
>
>-- 
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>
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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

>argh! John dammit...
>
>that will wipe his ports tree afaik, what is most important
>is the file should be changed to:
>
>---
>
>*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
>*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org
>*default base=/usr
>*default prefix=/usr
>*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3
>*default delete use-rel-suffix
>src-all
>*default tag=.
>ports-all
>
>---
>
>without the second 'tag' line there's a good chance his
>/usr/ports will be wiped out as there is no tag 'RELENG_3' 
>in the ports cvs repo.
>
>I know you're trying to be helpful, just also remeber to be
>careful. :)
Ah, yes, i see.  Point taken.


>
>-Alfred
>
>> 
>> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Johan Pettersson wrote:
>> 
>> >Hello!
>> >
>> >I have read about cvsup and tested it.
>> >But I think I didn't understand it right!
>> >From my stable-supfile:
>> >
>> >*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
>> >*default host=cvsup.se.FreeBSD.org
>> >*default base=/usr
>> >*default prefix=/usr
>> >*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3
>> >*default delete use-rel-suffix
>> >src-all
>> >
>> >I thought this would upgrade the ports collection!
>> >But from what I understand it didn't ?
>> >Can someone help me with the syntax ? (staying stable)
>> >
>> >//thx Johan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
>> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> -jm
>> 
>> ---------
>> He who laughs last... obviously didn't get the joke.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@rush.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
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>
>
>


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I am wondering if you can help.

I have a web server running and it is under thousands of requests per
day, about 500,000 for just one site.  The problem I am having is cgi's
can not run because the web server is telling me it can't spawn child
process because resources are temporarily unavailable.

What can I do to stop this problem?  Is there a setting in the kernel or
where can I go.  I have been trying to tweak Apache but no luck there...

Thanks in advance.

p.s. I am running 2.2.8 FreeBSD.

-Mike



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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Mike Alich wrote:

> I am wondering if you can help.
> 
> I have a web server running and it is under thousands of requests per
> day, about 500,000 for just one site.  The problem I am having is cgi's
> can not run because the web server is telling me it can't spawn child
> process because resources are temporarily unavailable.
> 
> What can I do to stop this problem?  Is there a setting in the kernel or
> where can I go.  I have been trying to tweak Apache but no luck there...

some apache tweaks that have worked for me:

raise maxchildrequests to something like 300 or more.
make sure limits are off, probably via 'ulimit'
bump maxusers to something like 256.

since you didn't give a single hint as to your hardware config
i'll stop here as i don't want to bump limits so high that it
overloads your machine.

> Thanks in advance.
> 
> p.s. I am running 2.2.8 FreeBSD.

it'd probably be advisable to upgrage to 3.3-stable as soon
as you can.

-Alfred



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Hello,

I'm setting up a router with two SMC cards, and found the following
suggestion for the kernel configuration file below:

device ed0 at isa? port 0x260 net irq 10 iomem 0xce000 vector edintr
device ed1 at isa? port 0x240 net irq 11 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr

All of this makes sense, but how would a person know what the iomem address
should be?  Does a person just chose one or is there some fancy mathematical
way of figuring it out or setting it on the adaptor.  The SMC superdisk does
not have any options for setting this variable.

Thanks in advance,
~Ladd


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>On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
>
>>>If this is the case, does this mean FreeBSD keeps everything possible in
>>>memory and then swaps out to VM when it needs more?  
>>
>>This is a badly-worded question -- that, in itself, indicates some of what
>>you're missing.  VM *is* memory; the 'M' *stands* for the word "memory."
>
>OK, i meant swaps it to _disk_ here...
>
>>Specifically, VM is an abstraction of memory space that allows parts of
>>that space to be kept in different kinds of storage at any particular
>
>>That's only a rough approximation, though.  Pages can get swapped to disk
>>well before they're needed for other purposes, and then there's no wait on
>>the disk write before they can be re-used.  They don't have to be cleared
>>immediately, though, so if the original task accesses the page before it's
>>needed for anything else, that page is still in RAM (and the swap copy of
>>the page is invalidated).
>
>If pages are swapped to disk before they are needed, then there *IS* a
>wait on the disk write before the can be re-used, correct?

   FreeBSD only has to preserve pages that are dirty. The data in pages that
is brought in from files (such as when doing normal file reads) can just be
discarded if the page hasn't been modified. In an effort to minimize swap I/O,
FreeBSD generally favors clean pages over dirty ones when deciding what pages
to reclaim. The page priority algorithm is actually quite complicated, however,
and defies any simplistic explaination that could be made in an email.

-DG

David Greenman
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Thanks Chris -

I have compiled in the PCIC module in the kernel
and have loaded it dynamically with kldload...
The module loads fine either way, but 
I get the following both ways when pccardc runs
from rc.pccard

/dev/card0: device not configured

The device is definately there...I've checked the
archives and I don't find anything definitive
about what else to look for...permissions look good
I've tried to remake the device with MAKEDEV etc.

I've tried 

pccardc pccardmem 0xd0000
pccardc pccardmem 0xd4000
pccardc pccardmem 0xd8000
pccardc pccardmem 0xdc000

with no results

Any ideas?

Thanks

- Mike Whitley

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:

> Attached is my config file for my laptop.  This is an out of box
> situation.  I am using the xircom 10/100 card and a 3com xjack modem.  
> All done with a little tinkering with pccard.conf.  Make sure you are
> loading the pccard module configuring pccard to work properly.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Mike Whitley wrote:
> 
> > Chris -
> > 
> > Do you have your 600E working with a "PCMCIA" Ethernet card?
> > If so, what steps did you go through to get it working?  I
> > basically installed 3.3-stable/then the PAO binaries/then
> > the PAO sources.  I since have been going thru kernel recompiles
> > to try and get /dev/pcic0 recognized.  Unfortunately, I have
> > had no luck...that's when I saw that there were some earlier
> > patches available for 2.2.7 to patch relavent source and header
> > files.  Did you patch 3.3 or was it an "out of box" situation?
> > Sorry for the continued questions...I've done tons of Desktops
> > with FreeBSD but this is my first laptop.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > - Mike Whitley
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
> > 
> > > Actually I am not using cardbus for this laptop.  I am using the standard
> > > pc-card setup with FreeBSD 3.3 -stable.  I believe cardbus is not yet
> > > supported under PAO as well as -stable.  From reading -current they are
> > > working on bringing in cardbus support.  Although cardbus controllers will
> > > still work with the pc-card setup since they should be backward
> > > compatible.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Chris
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Mike Whitley wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I second that...the 600E has a NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AV (per IBM
> > > > website)  which works well at 1024x768/16.  I have a 1552 with the
> > > > same adapter...the mouse setting that seems to work is /dev/psm0 with
> > > > Microsoft protocol.  I am curious to find out if you have your
> > > > cardbus support working at this point?  I think the 600E and 1552
> > > > both have the O2Micro OZ6832/6833 Cardbus Controller...Did you
> > > > apply the earlier 2.2.7 patch? or is there some other workaround?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > - Mike Whitley  
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Christopher T. Griffiths wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I am using this laptop and it is the neomagic card.  I have it set at
> > > > > 1024x768 with 16m color.  Very nice display.  Make sure you are using the
> > > > > latest Xfree though and you want the SVGA server set to 16m.  Hope that
> > > > > helps.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Chris
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Bill Woods wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Anyone here managee to get X going on an IBM Thinkpad 600E? What video
> > > > > > card does this thing have and what is supported by X?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > William
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > 
> 
> Christopher T. Griffiths	        
> Senior Network/Systems Administrator
> Quansoo Group Inc.
> cgriffiths@quansoo.com
> Phone:   (302) 777-4141
> Fax:     (302) 777-4142
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On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 07:53:16AM -0800, Mike Whitley wrote:
> 
> I second that...the 600E has a NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AV (per IBM
> website)  which works well at 1024x768/16.  I have a 1552 with the
> same adapter...the mouse setting that seems to work is /dev/psm0 with
> Microsoft protocol.

For prosperity sake, I too have a thinkpad 600E.  It works well under XFree
3.3.5 with 1024x786x16.  It'll also run at 8 or 24 bpp, but those modes are
slower.  If your XFree is having trouble detecting the card, you may want
to add 'Chipset "NM2200"' under your device section in your X config.

>  I am curious to find out if you have your
> cardbus support working at this point?  I think the 600E and 1552
> both have the O2Micro OZ6832/6833 Cardbus Controller...Did you
> apply the earlier 2.2.7 patch? or is there some other workaround?

I have no idea what an O2Micro OZ6832/6833 is, so I can't attest to whether
it exists on the 600E.  What I do know, is that the Thinkpad 600E has
pcic's that report themselves as the TI1251A, and I have been able to
kludge cardbus support for this chip without ever knowing about O2Micro.


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On 19-Nov-99 Bill Woods wrote:
> I have a chance to buy a "cellular kit" from my cell provider, but before
> I do, I want to ask a few questions.
> 
> This "kit" is basically a cable that runs from the serial port on a laptop
> to the cell phone. There is some software, but oif course it is windows
> only. I know this is limited information, but this is all I have. I assume
> the cable acts like a modem on a serial port, but does anyone know if
> FreeBSD has any support for anything like this?
> 
> William

Is this a GSM cellphone or one the the US standards?

If it's GSM then a lot depends on the model of handset. The GSM 07.x
series of specifications includes a terminal adaptation layer which
presents a Hayes modem like interface to the end user but can hide all
sorts of nasties. So the software you are buying may just be a all of
the stuff to manage a phone book etc. via AT commands, or it may be
a AT command to something funny layer.

I've sort of started playing around with some Tcl and Tk to edit the
phone book etc. on my GSM handset. As the phone book is accessable via
AT commands it should be portable to any phone. I use a Xircom RealPort
and Ericsson GF768.

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The only idea anyone had was to reinstall the OS. I would really like to
avoid this if possible. Does anyone know how installing from a CD could
result in this behaviour? I feel too close to MS water when I hear reinstall :)

thanks,

	=derek

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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Agent Drek wrote:

|Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:40:01 -0500 (EST)
|From: Agent Drek <drek@MonsterByMistake.Com>
|To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
|Subject: drive light always on
|
|Hello all,
|
|I just installed FreeBSD3.3 (October release) on our flashy new mail server.
|For some reason however, the drive light (wired from the motherboard) never
|turns off. I'm wondering if this should be a cause of worry :) It's on even
|when the entire system really is doing nothing and it's off when the system
|boots (until it starts mounting the drives)
|
|There are 4 drives. 1floppy, 1 ATAPI CDrom and 2 seagate scsi hard drives.
|SCSI is on the motherboard:
|L440GX+ Intel board with Pentium III 450.
|
|ahc0: <Adaptec aic7896/97 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.12.
|0
|ahc0: aic7896/97 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
|ahc1: <Adaptec aic7896/97 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.12.
|1
|ahc1: aic7896/97 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
|
|<snip>
|
|npx0 on motherboard
|npx0: INT 16 interface
|Waiting 3 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
|changing root device to da0s1a
|da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
|da0: <SEAGATE ST34520W 1498> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
|da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
|da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
|da1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
|da1: <SEAGATE ST34520W 1498> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
|da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
|da1: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
|
|
|I have the same CDROM drive at home running FreeBSD and the drive light turns
|on/off with system activity. But here I'm stumped.
|
|The manufacturer said that there was no problems in their shop ("yeah the light
|went blinky blink when I installed NT") so I'm going under the assumption that
|it is wired correctly.
|
|This happens with the default Boot Kernel and with my custom kernel.
|
|I've searched the mail archive and have not found anything yet. I appreciate
|any help you can give me. Need more info?
|



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Just taking a stab at this one, but it had happened to me with Three hard
drives. One always stayed lit. Turned out that the jumper setting were
wrong. It was a secondary slave, but had the jumper set to secondary master
and the master was set to cable select. I switched the jumpers to all the
correct positions and it stopped. Funny thing is this happened on a dual
boot system and yes the light did go on and off in windows too!?

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Agent Drek [SMTP:drek@MonsterByMistake.Com]
> Sent:	Friday, November 19, 1999 6:21 PM
> To:	FreeBSD Questions
> Subject:	Re: drive light always on
> 
> The only idea anyone had was to reinstall the OS. I would really like to
> avoid this if possible. Does anyone know how installing from a CD could
> result in this behaviour? I feel too close to MS water when I hear
> reinstall :)
> 
> thanks,
> 
> 	=derek
> 
> Monster By Mistake Inc > 'digital plumber'
> http://www.interlog.com/~drek
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Agent Drek wrote:
> 
> |Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:40:01 -0500 (EST)
> |From: Agent Drek <drek@MonsterByMistake.Com>
> |To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> |Subject: drive light always on
> |
> |Hello all,
> |
> |I just installed FreeBSD3.3 (October release) on our flashy new mail
> server.
> |For some reason however, the drive light (wired from the motherboard)
> never
> |turns off. I'm wondering if this should be a cause of worry :) It's on
> even
> |when the entire system really is doing nothing and it's off when the
> system
> |boots (until it starts mounting the drives)
> |
> |There are 4 drives. 1floppy, 1 ATAPI CDrom and 2 seagate scsi hard
> drives.
> |SCSI is on the motherboard:
> |L440GX+ Intel board with Pentium III 450.
> |
> |ahc0: <Adaptec aic7896/97 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on
> pci0.12.
> |0
> |ahc0: aic7896/97 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
> |ahc1: <Adaptec aic7896/97 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on
> pci0.12.
> |1
> |ahc1: aic7896/97 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
> |
> |<snip>
> |
> |npx0 on motherboard
> |npx0: INT 16 interface
> |Waiting 3 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> |changing root device to da0s1a
> |da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> |da0: <SEAGATE ST34520W 1498> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
> |da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing
> Enabled
> |da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
> |da1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
> |da1: <SEAGATE ST34520W 1498> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
> |da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing
> Enabled
> |da1: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
> |
> |
> |I have the same CDROM drive at home running FreeBSD and the drive light
> turns
> |on/off with system activity. But here I'm stumped.
> |
> |The manufacturer said that there was no problems in their shop ("yeah the
> light
> |went blinky blink when I installed NT") so I'm going under the assumption
> that
> |it is wired correctly.
> |
> |This happens with the default Boot Kernel and with my custom kernel.
> |
> |I've searched the mail archive and have not found anything yet. I
> appreciate
> |any help you can give me. Need more info?
> |
> 
> 
> 
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Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za> wrote:

> This is a bug in earlier versions of the openssh port, which has been
> fixed recently.  Update your ports tree and reinstall the port.

Actually it's been reintroduced. Brian improved the fix and broke
it. ;-)

-- 
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                  naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de



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I wouldn't assume things are "wired" correctly.  I would start by
going over your hardware setup.  Check termination, etc...

Craig

Agent Drek wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I just installed FreeBSD3.3 (October release) on our flashy new mail server.
> For some reason however, the drive light (wired from the motherboard) never
> turns off. I'm wondering if this should be a cause of worry :) It's on even
> when the entire system really is doing nothing and it's off when the system
> boots (until it starts mounting the drives)
> 
> There are 4 drives. 1floppy, 1 ATAPI CDrom and 2 seagate scsi hard drives.
> SCSI is on the motherboard:
> L440GX+ Intel board with Pentium III 450.
> 
> ahc0: <Adaptec aic7896/97 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.12.
> 0
> ahc0: aic7896/97 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
> ahc1: <Adaptec aic7896/97 Ultra2 SCSI adapter> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.12.
> 1
> ahc1: aic7896/97 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
> 
> <snip>
> 
> npx0 on motherboard
> npx0: INT 16 interface
> Waiting 3 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> changing root device to da0s1a
> da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da0: <SEAGATE ST34520W 1498> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
> da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
> da1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
> da1: <SEAGATE ST34520W 1498> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
> da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
> da1: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C)
> 
> I have the same CDROM drive at home running FreeBSD and the drive light turns
> on/off with system activity. But here I'm stumped.
> 
> The manufacturer said that there was no problems in their shop ("yeah the light
> went blinky blink when I installed NT") so I'm going under the assumption that
> it is wired correctly.
> 
> This happens with the default Boot Kernel and with my custom kernel.
> 
> I've searched the mail archive and have not found anything yet. I appreciate
> any help you can give me. Need more info?
> 
> cheers,
> 
>         =derek
> 
> Monster By Mistake Inc > 'digital plumber'
> http://www.interlog.com/~drek
> 
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> is the G400 supported by FreeBSD with the latest XFree86 ?
> thanks
> 


The G400 is supported under XFree 3.3.5, which is on the 3.3-R CD set.


Nick.

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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, AHZE wrote:

> 
> I currently run redhat linux , and I have ALOT of software in rpm format , from
> .src.rpm , that i have compiled my self. I was wondering if I could install this
> on freebsd ..
> Thanks alot
> Mike Johnson
> 
> 

If there is some hope for you, I think it is in a -current port of
linux_base-5.2.  I believe that you should not run -current ports and
some -release version of the OS, so that means run -current, then install
linux_base-5.2.  Can someone please verify this as somewhat correct?

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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Stuart Rogers wrote:

>         Yes hello I just ordered and Received the FreeBSD power pack 3.3 and was wondering why it stops doing anything as soon as the indicator bar comes up to tell you how much data has been transfered. I'm figuring this is a problem with my CD-ROM. I'm using an ASUS 40X IDE drive. Please let me know if you have any solutions.
> 

Hi Stuart,

Someone on the list will probably be able to help you out here, but they
will need more information.  Provide some more details.  What have you
done so far?  [Where in the install process are you]?  Are you trying to
set up a dual-boot system, or do a dedicated install?

regards,

Woody



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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Stuart Rogers wrote:

>         Yes hello I just ordered and Received the FreeBSD power pack 3.3 
> and was wondering why it stops doing anything as soon as the indicator
> bar comes up to tell you how much data has been transfered. I'm figuring 
> this is a problem with my CD-ROM. I'm using an ASUS 40X IDE drive.
> Please let me know if you have any solutions.
> 

Ahh,  another piece of info I found in errata.txt:

The 3.3 ISO image (and 3.3 CDROM #1 from Walnut Creek CDROM)
     mysteriously fails to boot on an ATAPI CDROM device but works
     with SCSI CDROMs (on adaptors which support bootable CDs).

Fix: Either install using boot floppies (see floppies/README.TXT)
     rather than booting from the CDROM or grab the updated ISO image
     from:

       ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/

     See also the CHECKSUM.MD5 file in that directory to verify whether
     you have the "old" or new image - some mirrors may be slow
     in picking up the uncompressed and gzipped versions of the ISO 9660
     installation image.  As always, Walnut Creek CDROM will also provide
     replacement CDs (once they become available) on request to purchasers 
     of the 3.3-RELEASE product.

     This problem was caused by a bug in mkisofs which we're still
     chasing but have, for now, simply worked-around.

cheers,

woody



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Hmm....well, The phone is a Qualcom, diual modem (digital and analog), as for
GSM or US Standards, I would assume US standards....

On 19-Nov-99 Duncan Barclay wrote:
> 
> On 19-Nov-99 Bill Woods wrote:
>> I have a chance to buy a "cellular kit" from my cell provider, but before
>> I do, I want to ask a few questions.
>> 
>> This "kit" is basically a cable that runs from the serial port on a laptop
>> to the cell phone. There is some software, but oif course it is windows
>> only. I know this is limited information, but this is all I have. I assume
>> the cable acts like a modem on a serial port, but does anyone know if
>> FreeBSD has any support for anything like this?
>> 
>> William
> 
> Is this a GSM cellphone or one the the US standards?
> 
> If it's GSM then a lot depends on the model of handset. The GSM 07.x
> series of specifications includes a terminal adaptation layer which
> presents a Hayes modem like interface to the end user but can hide all
> sorts of nasties. So the software you are buying may just be a all of
> the stuff to manage a phone book etc. via AT commands, or it may be
> a AT command to something funny layer.
> 
> I've sort of started playing around with some Tcl and Tk to edit the
> phone book etc. on my GSM handset. As the phone book is accessable via
> AT commands it should be portable to any phone. I use a Xircom RealPort
> and Ericsson GF768.
> 
> Duncan
> 
> ---
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Duncan Barclay          | God smiles upon the little children,
> dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk | the alcoholics, and the permanently stoned.
> ________________________________________________________________________


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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:13:57 PST, Woody Carey wrote:

> If there is some hope for you, I think it is in a -current port of
> linux_base-5.2.  I believe that you should not run -current ports and
> some -release version of the OS, so that means run -current, then install
> linux_base-5.2.  Can someone please verify this as somewhat correct?

No, totally wrong.  The ports tree is intended to work with both HEAD
and RELENG_3 wherever possible.  The linuxulator ought to work just fine
with stable.

Please note that the ports tree is _not_ branched.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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A 'hacker' friend of mine who is quite a Unix guru and who loves Linux
gave FreeBSD a try recently.  These were his comments:

       I *really* dislike the kernel configuration -- enabling/disabling
features causes the compile to crap out in different areas, so
       doing anything fancy becomes a time-intensive trial-and-error
job. Awful. And inflexible too; I was not able to select a
       PCMCIA NIC and a normal NIC [yeah, I was just toying around, but
what if I had a docking station?] without the compile
       crapping out. And the recommended FP stuff ['use GNU'] caused a
kernel panic when I rebooted.

       The docs seem more sparse for BSD --no NAG, so LPG, no SAG-- but
maybe I just never poked around enough. A lot of
       FreeBSD is the same as linux, of course, as linux is rather
heavily influenced by the BSD camp and they use many of the same
       tools.

       I like linux better even thouhg the bsd daemon is cooler ;) Linux
seems more flexible and seems to be a general unix with
       enhancements --like vim is to vi-- whereas FreeBSD is quirkly
like the other unixes. For some reason, linux never seemed
       to have many 'quirks' to me [relative to other unixes that is] --
everything is straightforward, and the tendency to implement
       both SysV and BSD features means it will act however you expect
it to.

       Of course I like BSD better than SysV [another factor influencing
by Solaris views], but the SysV init stuff is quite nice....

     <end quote>

Any thoughts on his kernel issues?  Those seem to be the only ones that
are major issues here.  Is FreeBSD 'quirky' ?  And what
advantages/disadvantages does FreeBSD kernel configuration have compared
to Linux ?

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From: Ben Smithurst <ben@scientia.demon.co.uk>
To: Mike Alich <hostmaster@cctinc.net>
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Mike Alich wrote:

> I have a web server running and it is under thousands of requests per
> day, about 500,000 for just one site.  The problem I am having is cgi's
> can not run because the web server is telling me it can't spawn child
> process because resources are temporarily unavailable.
> 
> What can I do to stop this problem?  Is there a setting in the kernel or
> where can I go.  I have been trying to tweak Apache but no luck there...

What does `sysctl -a | grep maxproc' show? You *might* be able to
increase the values on the fly using sysctl -w kern.maxproc=n and sysctl
-w kern.maxprocperuid=n for some value of n, but I never remember if
those sysctls are changable. If not, you can increase the maxusers
option in your kernel configuration which will increase maxproc and a
few other things.

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From: Ben Smithurst <ben@scientia.demon.co.uk>
To: "Oleg V. Volkov" <rover@lglobus.ru>
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Oleg V. Volkov wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 08:18:06PM +0100, Matthias Buelow wrote:
>
>> Executable compressor?  I thought DOS with tiny floppies was dead?
>> :) I don't think such a thing is useful; if it works at all, if
>> would dynamically generate the actual executable segments (code,
>> data, bss and whatever is hiding in today's elf stuff) defeating
>> the system's cache mechanisms for sharing code pages among multiple
>> running processes of the same executable image etc. which might
>> especially be critical since you probably want to compress very large
>> object files.  Other disadvantages might come into action.  I don't
>> think it makes sense at all generally in the days of very cheap
>> multi-gigabyte disks and object files contribute only marginally to
>> a typical filesystem fillage (mp3 files collections being much more
>> space hungry on many personal systems).
>
> [...] BTW do not forget about bandwidth downloading 8mb and 1,5 mb
> makes difference on 64k not to mention worse connections.

What the hell has this got to do with anything? You download a gzipped
copy of the executable, and then gunzip it and save it somewhere on your
disk, uncompressed. Why does the executable have to be compressed after
downloading? It seems stupid to me.

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Ben Smithurst wrote:

> Mike Alich wrote:
> 
>> I have a web server running and it is under thousands of requests per
>> day, about 500,000 for just one site.  The problem I am having is cgi's
>> can not run because the web server is telling me it can't spawn child
>> process because resources are temporarily unavailable.
>> 
>> What can I do to stop this problem?  Is there a setting in the kernel or
>> where can I go.  I have been trying to tweak Apache but no luck there...
> 
> What does `sysctl -a | grep maxproc' show? You *might* be able to

arggh. Some of that might only apply to 3.X, I don't know as much about
2.2.x (I didn't notice that's what you were using the first time). On
earlier systems I think there was a CHILD_MAX kernel config option which
controls the maximum number of processes. You might like to check LINT
and GENERIC under /sys/i386/conf to see if they have anything so say.

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Aah, how to start a flame war ... <gr>

Before this thread gets too crazy, can someone please be so kind
as to move it over to -chat?

This is an important question, and should be discussed at length, but
perhaps <subject> fit more with -chat charter.

I think that would be great!  Thanks,

 - Woody



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>Any thoughts on his kernel issues?  Those seem to be the only ones that
>are major issues here.

   Sounds like mostly operator error.

>  Is FreeBSD 'quirky' ?

   I think for most people that anything that isn't what you started with is
quirky. In terms of Unix purity, FreeBSD is near or at the top of the list.
That doesn't mean it can't be improved, but I think you'll find far more
people that think Linux is more than just a little quirky compared to
FreeBSD.

-DG

David Greenman
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Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com
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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, David Greenman wrote:

> >Any thoughts on his kernel issues?  Those seem to be the only ones that
> >are major issues here.
> 
>    Sounds like mostly operator error.
> 
> >  Is FreeBSD 'quirky' ?
> 
>    I think for most people that anything that isn't what you started with is
> quirky. In terms of Unix purity, FreeBSD is near or at the top of the list.
> That doesn't mean it can't be improved, but I think you'll find far more
> people that think Linux is more than just a little quirky compared to
> FreeBSD.

FreeBSD standard utils just lack the mass of features(?) that Linux clones
have.  Just look at stuff like cp -- Linux has a dozen options, 'coz
ex-Solaris users wanted their options, ex-FreeBSD users wanted their
options, etc.  Linux is the melting pot, and FreeBSD is the original
stuff.  They're both pretty groovy tho, eh?

---
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I know this is not really FBSD related, but who can one
ask in this world but kind and knowledgable FBSD users:)

So. I am writing a web based mail system (something like
HotMail) in perl. I have to do in perl, since the company which
ordered it put it in tech. reqs.

The problem is that when i use MIME and Mail (INternet, FOlder)
packages one request for mail processing grows as large as
10M in memory for 700K mail. This is unacceptable. Is there any
other way or packages, libs for processing MIME mail w/o
wasting so much memory and which do not take 3 seconds to compile
to P-code on startup? May be somone already done somthing like
this in perl and can share experience. My reqs say that one host should
serve up to 100000 users (not simulatiusly of course). The hosts is
a dual Pentium III - 450/SCSI/512MB RAM.

Besides that, are there any C libraries for parsing MIME and access
mail boxes of different types (MBOX, MAILDIR, MH,...)

Artem




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I've got one of these D-Link 660s and have used it without PAO
on various laptops, from a 3.0-current circa late August 1998 to
3.2 and 4.0 -current from July 1999.  However, it doesn't work
without an edited entry in pccard.conf.  I use:

# D-Link DE-660 NE2000 clone
card "D-Link" "DE-660"
	config 0x20 "ed0" 10
	ether 0x81
	insert /etc/pccard_ether ed0 
	remove /sbin/ifconfig ed0 delete

I filed a pr on this quite a while ago.  

	Annelise

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Warner Losh wrote:

> In message <Pine.OSF.3.96.991118104116.22248A-100000@mbs.valinet.com> Alan Corey writes:
> : Well, maybe.  The entry in pccard.conf is there, but I neglected to
> : mention that I'm also using PAO3-19991011.  I couldn't get the card to
> : work without PAO, but I attributed that to my own inexperience.  After a
> : week or so of trying without it I finally loaded PAO and things went much 
> : more smoothly.  I thought since the entry was there it must have worked
> : for someone, so it was just me doing something wrong.
> 
> I did add code from PAO to my local tree.  jmb did the same thing and
> I merged his changed into mine and added another MAC address that was
> acceptible to the linksys test.  I don't think that these changes have
> been MFC'd.
> 
> Warner
> 
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> > egreetings(r) is a registered trademark of the Egreetings Network

Ahem, funny...  really funny... now someone must come up with the idea
to register as a trademark words like `email', `elisp', `ecommerce' and
ask everyone that uses them to pay money :|

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"James A Wilde" <iq-unlimited@telia.com> writes:

> Can one not simply mail to an account on this machine?

Can be done.  I can even send some attachment with the original
available on the web too, so you can compare.  The only problem is I
don't know where to sent the message :|

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"Oleg V. Volkov" <rover@lglobus.ru> writes:

> That's not my program, i just helping someone to make his linux program
> work with FreeBSD too. But that's good point.

Where does the current linux emulation fail you?  You don't have to
rewrite everything, you know.  A problem report could get it fixed
eventually.

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Ariel Burbaickij <Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de> writes:

> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:
> 
> > So, if I understand this...  you don't have
> > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/kde11 ?
> > /usr/ports/lang/tclxx ?  where xx is a version number.
>   Nope :)The mentioned are here but I thought the structure
>   should be so as presented in http://www.fbsd.org/masterindex.html
>   Were kde tcl and some other have their own directory

Since the masterindex has to be updated some times, you might at times
find more up to date the output of

	% ls -l /usr/ports/*/tcl*

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How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===================================================

Last update 3 September 1999

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your
message:

- You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate.
- You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read.
- You asked more than one unrelated question in one message.
- You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone.
- You sent out the same message more than once.
- You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions.

If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
will get more than one copy of this message from different people.
Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.

=====================================================================

Contents:

I:    Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:    How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===============

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the
questions (the "hackers").

       Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking
       into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
       activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out
       yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
       security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.

II:  How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
==============================================

When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message
from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG.  In this message, amongst other things, it
told you how to unsubscribe.  Here's a typical message:

  Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list!

  If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list,
  you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command
  in the body of your email message:

      unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de>

  Here's the general information for the list you've
  subscribed to, in case you don't already have it:

  FREEBSD-QUESTIONS               User questions
  This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD.  You should not
  send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the
  question to be pretty technical.

Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you
don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one
which you specified when you subscribed.

If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on
the list, this may mean one of two things:

  1.  You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed.  That's where
      keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy.  For
      example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as
      grog@lemis.de.  Since then, I have changed it to
      grog@lemis.com.  If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from
      the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with
      which I joined.

  2.  You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
      FreeBSD-questions.  If that's the case, you'll have to figure out
      which one it is and get your name taken off that one.  If you're
      not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the
      messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a
      clue there.

If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going
on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things
out for you.  Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't
help you.

III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
===================================================

Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD,
FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers.  In addition, the
FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to
FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment.  In
some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask.  The
following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however:

     If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this
     isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ).  There's a list of these
     questions at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html, and also on
     your own system (once you've installed it) at
     /usr/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.html.  Check there, and if you don't find
     an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions.  Examples might be questions
     about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility.

     If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure,
     or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to
     FreeBSD-questions.

     If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that
     it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code
     where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.  You should also enter a problem
     report with the send-pr utility.

     If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can
     make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as
     implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send
     the message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own
     relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies.

There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for
example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet
Service Providers) who run FreeBSD.  If you happen to be an ISP, this
doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to
FreeBSD-isp.  The criteria above still apply, and it's in your
interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good
results that way.

IV:  How to submit a question
=============================

When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the
following points:

  1.  Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question.
      They do it of their own free will.  You can influence this free
      will positively by submitting a well-formulated question
      supplying as much relevant information as possible.  You can
      influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete,
      illegible, or rude question.  It's perfectly possible to send a
      message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you
      follow these rules.  It's much more possible to not get an
      answer if you don't.  In the rest of this document, we'll look
      at how to get the most out of your question to
      FreeBSD-questions.

  2.  Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message:
      they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests
      them.  Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject.
      ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough.  If you provide
      no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it.  If your
      subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may
      not read it.

  3.  Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T
      SHOUT!!!!!.  We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak
      English as their first language, and we try to make allowances
      for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message
      written full of typos or without any line breaks.  A lot of
      badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly
      configured mailers.  The following mailers are known to send out
      badly formatted messages without you finding out about them:

      Eudora
      exmh
      Microsoft Exchange
      Microsoft Internet Mail
      Microsoft Outlook
      Netscape

      As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent
      offenders.  If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer.  If you must
      use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set
      up correctly.  Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers
      which don't get on very well with MIME.

      For further information on this subject, check out
      http://www.lemis.com/email.html.

  4.  Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly.  This may
      seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but
      many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred
      messages a day.  They frequently sort the incoming messages by
      subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the
      first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to
      look.

  5.  Don't include unrelated questions in the same message.  Firstly,
      a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's
      more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the
      questions to read the message.

  6.  Specify as much information as possible.  This is a difficult
      area, and we need to expand on what information you need to
      submit, but here's a start:

         If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error
         messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No
         route to host'''.

         If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say
         (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free
         vnode isn't'''.

         If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us
         what hardware you have.  In particular, it's important to
         know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in
         your machine.

         If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the
         configuration.  Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of
         authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic
         IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file?

  7.  If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see
      your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend
      the message.  Wait at least 24 hours.  The FreeBSD mailer
      offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the
      world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to
      get through.  And once it gets through, the one person who might
      know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part
      of the world.

  8.  If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there
      could be other reasons.  For example, the problem is so
      complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does
      know the answer was offline.  If you don't get an answer after,
      say, a week, it might help to re-send the message.  If you don't
      get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably
      not going to get one from this forum.  Resending the same
      message again and again will only make you unpopular.

To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following
question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-).  You choose which of
these two questions you would be more prepared to answer:


Message 1:
Subject: (none)

I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message 2:
Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD

I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm
having a lot of difficulty installing it.  I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16
MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball
disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive.  The installation works just
fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing
Operating System".

----------------------------------------------------------------------

V: How to follow up to a question
=================================

Often you will want to send in additional information to a question
you have already sent.  The best way to do this is to reply to your
original message.  This has three advantages:

1.  You include the original message text, so people will know what
    you're talking about.  Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out,
    though.

2.  The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to
    put one in, didn't you?).  Many mailers will sort messages by
    subject.  This helps group messages together.

3.  The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the
    previous message.  Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages,
    showing the exact relationships between the messages.

VI: How to answer a question
============================

Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider:

1.  A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to
    answering questions.  Read them.

2.  Has somebody already answered the question?  The easiest way to
    check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then
    (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all
    together.

    If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean
    that you shouldn't send another answer.  But it makes sense to
    read all the other answers first.

3.  Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been
    said?  In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much,
    although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a
    problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or
    whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software.  If
    you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further
    relevant information.

4.  Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the
    person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express
    himself very well.  Even with the best understanding of the system,
    it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question.  This
    doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question
    more frustrated or confused than ever.  If nobody else answers, and
    you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more
    information.

5.  Are you sure your answer is correct?  If not, wait a day or so.
    If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply
    and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since
    nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI
    CD-ROM with a frog?".

6.  Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender
    and to FreeBSD-questions.  Many people on the FreeBSD-questions
    are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to
    by others.  If you take a message which is of general interest off
    the list, you're depriving these people of their information.  Be
    careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with
    hundreds of CCs.  If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc:
    lines appropriately.

7.  Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the
    minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for
    somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what
    you're talking about.

8.  Use some technique to identify which text came from the original
    message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending
    ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space
    after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the
    original text both make the result more readable.

9.  Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it
    replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where
    each reply comes before the text to which it replies.

10.  Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a
     text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it
     automatically, you should do it manually.

11.  If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too
     long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it.  In the case of
     an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the
     subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was:
     HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread
     will have less difficulty following it.

     In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you
     did it, but try not to be rude.  If you find you can't answer
     without being rude, don't answer.

     If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format,
     just reply to the submitter, not to the list.  You can just send
     him this message in reply, if you like.


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          Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition




                         Last revision: 2 August 1999

The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.   The  result  is  that  most  leading  edge
computer  books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut  Creek,  is  no  exception.   In-
evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The  following  is  a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos.  They
relate to the third edition, formatted  on  17  May  1999.   You'll  find  this
information  on  page  iv  (the  page  before  the  beginning  of  the Table of
Contents).  See the end of this document for instructions on how  to  find  the
errata for an older version.

You can get the current document in four forms:

o A     PostScript     version,     suitable     for     printing    out,    at
  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ps. See page 302 of the third  edition
  to  find  out  how  to print out PostScript.  If at all possible, please take
  this document: it's closest to the original text.

  Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible  to
  reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.txt. When
  viewed with more or less,  this  version  will  show  some  highlighting  and
  underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

o An  ASCII-only  version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ascii. This
  version is posted every week to the  FreeBSD-questions  mailing  list.   Only
  take  this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure
  that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-3.html.

All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing  source  text  of  the
book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well.  If you find a

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bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at <grog@FreeBSD.org.>

Page ii
_______

The instructions on page ii (opposite the title  page)  tell  you  to  look  at
ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2  for  the  errata  list.   That's wrong.
Look at this list.

Pages 190 and 191
_________________

The description is not very clear about which text appears  when  booting  from
floppy  for  initial  install,  and  which  appears when booting normally.  The
procedure is very similar, but there are some differences.  Add  the  following
text after the heading Boot messages:

You'll  boot  your system in at least two different ways: initially you'll boot
from floppy or CD-ROM in order to install the system.  Later, after the  system
is  installed,  you'll boot from hard disk.  The procedure is almost identical,
so we'll look at both versions in the following examples.

Replace the text from the middle of page 191 with:

If you're booting from 1.44 MB floppies, you will then see:

Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter:

When you insert the MFS root floppy and press  Enter,  you  see  more  twirling
batons, then the UserConfig screen appears.

UserConfig: Modifying the boot configuration
____________________________________________

After  the  kernel has been loaded, the following screen will appear if you are
installing the system, or if you have requested it with the -c  option  to  the
boot loader:

Page 206
________

The  bottom  two lines on this page should be in bold constant font, indicating
that this is input for your /etc/rc.config file


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nfs_client_enable="YES"       # This host is an NFS client (or NO).
nfs_server_enable="YES"       # This host is an NFS server (or NO).


Page 265
________

The example on the second half of the page refers to the old SCSI driver.   The
scsi  program  is  no  longer  available  in  FreeBSD  3.x.   Instead,  use the
camcontrol program.  Replace the text with:.

Modern disks make provisions for recovering from such errors by  allocating  an
alternate sector for the data.  IDE drives do this automatically, but with SCSI
drives you have the option of enabling or disabling reallocation.   Usually  it
is  turned on when you buy them, but occasionally it is not.  When installing a
new disk, you should check that the parameters  ARRE  (Auto  Read  Reallocation
Enable)  and AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enable) are turned on.  For example,
to check and set the values for disk da1, you would enter:

# camcontrol modepage da1 -m 1 -e -P 3
# scsi -f /dev/rda1c -m 1 -e -P 3

This command will start up your favourite editor (either the one  specified  in
the EDITOR environment variable, or vi by default) with the following data:

AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld):  0
ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld):  1
TB (Transfer Block):  0
RC (Read Continuous):  0
EER (Enable Early Recovery):  0
PER (Post Error):  0
DTE (Disable Transfer on Error):  0
DCR (Disable Correction):  0
Read Retry Count:  16
Correction Span:  41
Head Offset Count:  0
Data Strobe Offset Count:  0
Write Retry Count:  16
Recovery Time Limit:  0

The  values  for  AWRE  and  ARRE should both be 1.  If they aren't, as in this
case, where AWRE is 0, change the data with the editor, save it, and exit.  The
camcontrol  program will write the data back to the disk and enable the option.


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Page 331
________

The description of the config refers to the SCSI drive sd0.  This  is  the  old
name; in FreeBSD version 3, SCSI drives are called da, so this reference should
be da0.

Thanks  to  Francisco  Reyes  <francisco@natserv.com>  for  pointing  out  this
problem.

Page 362
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel:

# cd ../../compile/FREEBIE
# make depend
# make

   The  make  depend  is needed even if the directory has just been created:
   apart from creating dependency information, it also  creates  some  files
   needed for the build.
Thanks to Mark Ovens <marcov@globalnet.co.uk> for drawing this to my attention,
and   to   Francisco   Reyes   <francisco@natserv.com>   and   Bill    Fumerola
<billf@jade.chc-chimes.com>  for pointing out that it still wasn't fixed in the
third edition.

Page 409
________

The information on setting the default routers specified the wrong end  of  the
PPP  links  in  some  places.  It should always be the ``far'' end of the link.
Replace the second example on page 409, and the text following  it,  with  this
text:

defaultrouter="139.130.136.129"    # Set to default gateway (or NO).
static_routes=""              # Set to static route list (or leave empty).
gateway_enable="YES"               # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway.

This  is the normal way to set the default route on a point-to-point interface.
In fact, for PPP you don't  need  to  specify  the  default  address:  the  PPP
packages will set it for you when the link comes up.  This makes it possible to

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set default routes when you're forced to use dynamic IP  addresses,  where  you
don't know the address at this point.  We'll see how PPP does this on page 446.

In the first example on page 410, the sixth example on page 412 and the  second
example on page 413, replace the defaultrouter definition with:


defaultrouter="139.130.237.65"          # Set to default gateway (or NO).


Thanks to Andreas Longwitz <longwitz@Incore.de> for pointing out this error.

Getting errata for older editions of the book
_____________________________________________

There have been a total of five different versions of ``The Complete FreeBSD''.
The most accurate way to distinguish them is by the format date,  which  you'll
find  at  the  bottom of page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of
Contents) in all versions of the book.

1. The first was titled ``Installing and running FreeBSD'', and  was  formatted
  on 24 February 1996.  No errata list exists for this book.

2. For  the first edition (19 July 1996), get ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/er-
  rata-1.   This   same   file   is   also   available   via   the   web   link
  http://www.lemis.com/errata-1. I am no longer updating this errata list.

3. The  list  for  the  second  edition (16 December 1997) is available in four
  forms:

  o A    PostScript    version,    suitable    for     printing     out,     at
    ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps.  See  page  222  of  the  second
    edition to find out how to print  out  PostScript.   If  at  all  possible,
    please take this document: it's closest to the original text.

    Be  careful  selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible
    to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

  o An enhanced ASCII  version  at  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt.
    When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and
    underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

  o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This
    version  is  posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list.  Only

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    take this version if you have real problems with  PostScript:  I  can't  be
    sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

  o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html.

4. The  revised  second edition was formatted on 11 February 1999.  As the name
  suggests, it's not a complete new edition: in fact, only three  chapters  are
  different:

  o The chapter ``Setting up X11'' has been brought up to date.

  o Appendix  D (``Contents of the Ports Collection'') has been replaced by two
    appendixes, ``Errata and Addenda'' (the errata list up to date at the time)
    and  ``FreeBSD  3.0'',  which describes the differences between FreeBSD 2.x
    and FreeBSD 3.x.

  There is no separate errata list for this book.  Refer to the second  edition
  errata list.

5. The  current,  third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999.  This is the correct
  list for this edition.
























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          Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition




                          Last revision: 21 June 1999

The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.   The  result  is  that  most  leading  edge
computer  books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut  Creek,  is  no  exception.   In-
evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The  following  is  a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos.  They
relate to the second edition, formatted on 16 December 1997.  If you have  this
book,  please  check this list.  If you have the first edition of 19 July 1996,
please check ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-1. This  same  file  is  also
available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/.

This list is available in four forms:

o A     PostScript     version,     suitable     for     printing    out,    at
  ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the book  to  find
  out  how  to  print  out  PostScript.   If  at all possible, please take this
  document: it's closest to the original text.

  Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible  to
  reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version.

o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. When
  viewed with more or less,  this  version  will  show  some  highlighting  and
  underlining.  It's not suitable for direct viewing.

o An  ASCII-only  version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This
  version is posted every week to the  FreeBSD-questions  mailing  list.   Only
  take  this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure
  that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning.

o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html.

All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing  source  text  of  the
book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well.  If you find a

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bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at <grog@FreeBSD.org.>

General changes
_______________


o In a number of places, I suggest the use of the  following  command  to  find
  process information:

  $ ps aux | grep foo

  Unfortunately,  ps  is sensitive to the column width of the terminal emulator
  upon which it is working.  This command usually works fine  on  a  relatively
  wide  xterm,  but if you're running on an 80-column terminal, it may truncate
  exactly the information you're looking for, so you end  up  with  no  output.
  You can fix that with the w option:

  $ ps waux | grep foo

  Thanks to Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> for this information


Location of the sample files
____________________________

On  the  2.2.5 CD-ROM only, the location of the sample files does not match the
specifications in the book (/book on the first CD-ROM).  The 2.2.5 CD-ROM  came
out before the book, and it contains the files on the third (repository) CD-ROM
as a single gzipped tar file  /xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz.   It  contains  the
following files:

drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/mutt/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         352 Oct 15 15:21 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.mail_aliases
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        9394 Oct 15 15:22 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.muttrc
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh       18281 Oct 16 16:52 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.fvwm2rc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh        1392 Oct 17 12:54 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-desktop
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         296 Oct 17 12:35 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.xinitrc
-rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh         622 Oct 17 13:51 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-rcfiles
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1133 Oct 17 13:00 1997 cfbsd/scripts/Uutry
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh        1028 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/README
drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh           0 Oct 18 19:32 1997 cfbsd/docs/
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      199111 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.txt

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-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      189333 Oct 16 14:28 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.txt
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      188108 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh      226439 Oct 16 14:27 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.ps
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         788 Oct 16 15:01 1997 cfbsd/README
-rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh         248 Oct 17 11:52 1997 cfbsd/errata

To  extract  one  of these files, say cfbsd/docs/packages.txt, and assuming you
have the CD-ROM mounted as /cdrom, enter:

# cd /usr/share/doc
# tar xvzf /cdrom/xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz cfbsd/docs/packages.txt

See page 209 for more information on using tar.

These files are an early version of what is described in the book.  I'll put up
some updated versions on ftp://ftp.lemis.com/ in the near future.

Thanks  to Frank McCormick <gfm@readybox.com> for drawing this to my attention.

Chapter 8: Setting up X11
_________________________

For FreeBSD 2.2.7, this chapter has changed sufficiently to make it impractical
to   distribute   errata.    You  can  download  the  PostScript  version  from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.ps,   or   the    ASCII    version    from
ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.txt.  No HTML version is available.

Page xxxiv
__________

Before the discussion of the shell prompts in the middle of the page, add:

In this book, I recommend the use of the Bourne shell or one of its descendents
(sh, bash, pdksh, ksh or zsh).  With the exception of sh, they are all  in  the
Ports Collection.  I personally use the bash shell.

This  is a personal preference, and a recommendation, but it's not the standard
shell.  The standard BSD shell is the  C  shell  (csh),  which  has  a  fuller-
featured  descendent  tcsh.   In particular, the standard installation sets the
root user up with a csh.  See page 152 (in this errata) for details of  how  to
change the shell.




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General changes


Page 11: Reading the handbook
_____________________________

The  CD-ROM  now includes Netscape.  Replace the last paragraph on the page and
the example on the following page with:

If you're running X, you can use a browser like netscape to read the  handbook.
If you don't have X running yet, use lynx.  Both of these programs are included
on the CD-ROM.  To install them, enter:

# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/netscape-communicator-4.5.tgz
or
# pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/lynx-2.8.1.1.tgz

The numbers after the name (4.5 and 2.8.1.1) may change  after  this  book  has
been  printed.   Use  ls  to  list the names if you can't find these particular
versions.

Note that lynx is not a complete substitute for netscape:  since  it  is  text-
only,  it  is  not  capable  of  displaying  the  large  majority  of web pages
correctly.  It will suffice for reading most of the handbook, however.

Thanks to Stuart Henderson <stuart@internationalschool.co.uk> and <gkaplan@cas-
tle.net> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 12: Printing the handbook
______________________________

The instructions for formatting the handbook are obsolete.  Replace the section
starting Alternatively, you can print out the handbook with the following text:

Alternatively,  you  can  print  out  the  handbook.   You  need  to  have  the
documentation sources (/usr/doc) installed on your system.  You can  find  them
on the second CD-ROM in the directory of the same name.  To install them, first
mount your CD-ROM (see page 175).  Then enter:

$ cd /cdrom/usr/doc/handbook
$ mkdir -p /usr/doc/handbook            you may need to be root for this operation
$ cp -pr * /usr/doc/handbook

You have a choice of formats for the output:

o ascii will give you plain 7-bit ASCII  output,  suitable  for  reading  on  a
  character-mode terminal.

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o html will give you HTML output, suitable for browsing with a web browser.

o latex  will  give  you LATEX format, suitable for further processing with TEX
  and LATEX.

o ps will give you PostScript output, probably the best choice for printing.

o roff will give you output in troff source.  You can process this output  with
  nroff  or  troff,  but  it's  currently not very polished.  LATEX output is a
  better choice if you want to process it further.

Once you have decided your format,  use  make  to  create  the  document.   For
example, if you decide on PostScript format, you would enter:

$ make FORMATS=ps

This  creates  a  file  handbook.ps  which  you  can then print to a PostScript
printer or with the aid of ghostscript (see page 222).

Thanks to Bob Beer <r-beer@onu.edu> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 45:  Preparing floppies for installation
_____________________________________________

Replace the paragraph below the list of file names (in the middle of the  page)
with:

The  floppy  set should contain the file bin.inf and the ones whose names start
with bin. followed by two letters.  These other  files  are  all  240640  bytes
long,  except  for the final one which is usually shorter.  Use the MS-DOS COPY
program to copy as many files as will fit onto each disk (5 or 6) until  you've
got  all  the  distributions  you  want  packed  up in this fashion.  Copy each
distribution into subdirectory corresponding to  the  base  name--for  example,
copy the bin distribution to the files A:\BIN\BIN.INF, A:\BIN\BIN.AA and so on.

Page 80 and 81
______________

In a couple of examples, the FreeBSD partition is shown as type 164.  It should
be  165.   Thanks  to an unknown contributer for this correction (sorry, I lost
your name).




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Page 88: setting up for dumping
_______________________________

The example mentions a variable savecore in /etc/rc.conf.  This variable is  no
longer used--it's enough to set the variable dumpdev.

Page 92
_______

At the end of the section How to install a package add the text:

Alternatively,  you  can  install  packages  from  the  /stand/sysinstall Final
Configuration Menu.  We saw this menu on page in figure 4-14 on page 71.   When
you  start  sysinstall from the command line, you get to this menu by selecting
Index, and then selecting Configure.


Page 93
_______

Before the heading Install ports from the first CD-ROM add:


Install ports when installing the system
________________________________________

The file ports/ports.tgz on the first CD-ROM is a tar  archive  containing  all
the  ports.   You  can install it with the base system if you select the Custom
distribution and include the ports collection.  If you didn't install  them  at
the  time,  use  the  following method to install them all (about 40 MB).  Make
sure your CD-ROM is mounted (in this example on /cdrom), and enter:

Page 96
_______

Replace the example at the top of the page with:

Instead, do:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# for i in *; do
>   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
> done

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If you're using csh or tcsh, enter:

# cd /cd4/ports/distfiles
# mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles              make sure you have a distfiles directory
# foreach i (*)
?   ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i
? end

Thanks to Christopher Raven <gurab@lineone.net>  and  Francois  Jacques  <fran-
cois.jacques@callisto.si.usherb.ca> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 104
________

The examples at the bottom of the page and the top of the next page specify the
wrong directory (/usr).  It should be /usr/X11R6.  Replace the examples with:

For a full install, choose /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz.  If  you  are  using
sh, enter:

# cd /usr/X11R6
# for i in /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz; do
#   tar xzf $i
# done

If you are using csh, enter:

% cd /usr/X11R6
% foreach i (/cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz)
%   tar xzf $i
% end

For a minimal installation, first choose a server archive corresponding to your
VGA board.  If table 8-2 on page 103 doesn't give you enough information, check
the  server  man  pages,  starting  on  page 1545, which list the VGA chip sets
supported by each server.  For example, if you have an ET4000 based  board  you
will use the XF86_SVGA server.  In this case you would enter:

# cd /usr/X11R6
# tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz  substitute your server name here
# for i in bin fnts lib xicf; do
#   tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331$i.tgz
# done


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If you are using csh, enter:

% cd /usr/X11R6
% tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz  substitute your server name here
% foreach i (bin fnts lib xicf)
%   tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/$i
% end


Thanks  to Manuel Enrique Garcia Cuesta <megarcia@intercom.es> for pointing out
this one.

Page 128
________

Replace the complete text below the example with the following:

These values are defaults, and many  are  either  incorrect  for  FreeBSD  (for
example the device name /dev/com1) or do not apply at all (for example Xqueue).
If you are configuring manually, select one Protocol and one Device entry  from
the  following  selection.   If  you must use a two-button mouse, uncomment the
keyword Emulate3Buttons--in this mode, pressing both mouse  buttons  simultane-
ously  within Emulate3Timeout milliseconds causes the server to report a middle
button press.

Section "Pointer"

    Protocol   "Microsoft"         for Microsoft protocol mice
    Protocol    "MouseMan"         for Logitech mice
    Protocol    "PS/2"             for a PS/2 mouse
    Protocol    "Busmouse"         for a bus mouse

    Device     "/dev/ttyd0"        for a mouse on the first serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd1"        for a mouse on the second serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd2"        for a mouse on the third serial port
    Device     "/dev/ttyd3"        for a mouse on the fourth serial port
    Device     "/dev/psm0"         for a PS/2 mouse
    Device     "/dev/mse0"         for a bus mouse

    Emulate3Buttons           only for a two-button mouse

EndSection

You'll notice that the protocol name does not always match  the  manufacturer's

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name.   In  particular,  the  Logitech  protocol only applies to older Logitech
mice.  The newer ones use either the MouseMan or Microsoft  protocols.   Nearly
all modern serial mice run one of these two protocols, and most run both.

If  you are using a bus mouse or a PS/2 mouse, make sure that the device driver
is included in the kernel.  The GENERIC kernel contains drivers for both  mice,
but the PS/2 driver is disabled.  Use UserConfig (see page 50) to enable it.

Page 140
________

Just before the paragraph The super user add the following paragraph:

If  you  do  manage to lose the root password, all may not be lost.  Reboot the
machine to single user mode (see page 157), and enter:

# mount -u /             mount root file system read/write
# mount /usr             mount /usr file system (if separate)
# passwd root            change the password for root
Enter new password:
Enter password again:
# ^D                enter ctrl-D to continue with startup

If you have a separate /usr file system (the normal case), you need to mount it
as  well, since the passwd program is in the directory /usr/bin.  Note that you
should explicitly state the name root: in single user mode, the system  doesn't
have the concept of user IDs.

Page 148
________

Replace the text at the top of the page with:

Modern  shells  supply  command  line editing which resembles the editors vi or
Emacs.  In bash, sh, ksh, and zsh you can make the choice by entering

Page 152
________

After figure 10-8, add the following text:

It  would  be  tedious  for  every  user  to  put  settings  in  their  private
initialization  files, so the shells also read a system-wide default file.  For
the Bourne shell family, it is /etc/profile, while the C shell family has three

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files:  /etc/csh.login  to  be executed on login, /etc/csh.cshrc to be executed
when a new shell is started  after  you  log  in,  and  /etc/csh.logout  to  be
executed  when  you  stop  a  shell.   The  start files are executed before the
corresponding individual files.

In  addition,  login  classes  (page  141)  offer  another  method  of  setting
environment variables at a global level.

Changing your shell
___________________

The  FreeBSD  installation  gives root a C shell, csh.  This is the traditional
Berkeley shell, but it has a number of disadvantages: command line  editing  is
very primitive, and the script language is significantly different from that of
the Bourne shell, which is the de facto standard for shell scripts: if you stay
with  the  C  shell,  you  may  still need to understand the Bourne shell.  The
latest version of the Bourne shell sh also includes some command line  editing.
See page 148 for details of how to enable it.

You  can  get  better  command line editing with tcsh, in the Ports Collection.
You can get both better command line editing and Bourne shell syntax with bash,
also in the Ports Collection.

If  you  have root access, you can use vipw to change your shell, but there's a
more general way: use chsh (Change Shell).  Simply run the program.  It  starts
your  favourite editor (as defined by the EDITOR environment variable).  Here's
an example before:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /bin/csh
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location:
Office Phone:
Home Phone:

You can change anything after the colons.  For example, you might  change  this
to:

#Changing user database information for velte.
Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash
Full Name: Jack Velte
Location: On the road
Office Phone: +1-408-555-1999
Home Phone:

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chsh  checks and updates the password files when you save the modifications and
exit the editor.  The next time you log in, you get the new shell.  chsh  tries
to  ensure you don't make any mistakes--for example, it won't let you enter the
name of a shell which isn't mentioned in the file /etc/shells--but it's a  very
good  idea  to  check  the shell before logging out.  You can try this with su,
which you normally use to become super user:

bumble# su velte
Password:
su-2.00$                 note the new prompt

There are a couple of problems in using tcsh or bash as a root shell:

o The shell for root must be on the root file system,  otherwise  it  will  not
  work  in single user mode.  Unfortunately, most ports of shells put the shell
  in the directory /usr/local/bin, which is  almost  never  on  the  root  file
  system.

o Most  shells  are  dynamically linked: they rely on library routines in files
  such as /usr/lib/libc.a.  These files are not available in single user  mode,
  so  the shells won't work.  You can solve this problem by creating statically
  linked versions of the shell, but this requires programming experience beyond
  the scope of this book.

If you can get hold of a statically linked version, perform the following steps
to install it:

o Copy the shell to /bin, for example:

  # cp /usr/local/bin/bash /bin

o Add the name of the shell to /etc/shells,  in this example the line  in  bold
  print:

  # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1).
  # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using
  # one of these shells.
  /bin/sh
  /bin/csh
  /bin/bash


You can then change the shell for root as described above.


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Thanks  to  Lars Koller  <Lars.Koeller@Uni-Bielefeld.DE> for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 160
________

Replace the text at the fourth bullet with the augmented text:

The second-level boot locates the kernel, by default the file  /kernel  on  the
root file system, and loads it into memory.  It prints the Boot: prompt at this
point so that you can influence this choice--see the man page on page  579  for
more details of what you can enter at this prompt.

Page 169
________

Replace the last paragraph on the page with:

The standard solution for these problems is to relocate the /tmp file system to
a different directory, say /usr/tmp, and create a symbolic link  from  /usr/tmp
to /tmp--see Chapter 4, Installing FreeBSD, page 72, for more details.

Thanks to Charlie Sorsby <crs@hgo.net> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 176
________

Add the following paragraph

Unmounting file systems

When you mount a file system, the system assumes it is going to stay there, and
in the interests of efficiency it delays writing data back to the file  system.
This  is the same effect we discussed on page 158.  As a result, if you want to
stop using a file system, you need to tell the system about it.   You  do  this
with  the umount command.  Note the spelling--there's no n in the command name.

You need to do this even with read-only  media  such  as  CD-ROMs:  the  system
assumes  it  can  access the data from a mounted file system, and it gets quite
unhappy if it can't.  Where possible, it locks  removable  media  so  that  you
can't remove them from the device until you unmount them.

Using  umount  is  straightforward:  just  tell  it what to unmount, either the
device name or the directory name.  For  example,  to  unmount  the  CD-ROM  we

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mounted in the example above, you could enter one of these commands:

# umount /dev/cd1a
# umount /cd1

Before  unmounting  a  file  system, umount checks that nobody is using it.  If
somebody is using it, it will refuse to unmount it with a message like  umount:
/cd1:  Device  busy.   This  message often occurs because you have changed your
directory to a directory on the file system you want to  remove.   For  example
(which also shows the usefulness of having directory names in the prompt):

=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 16 -> umount /cd1
umount: /cd1: Device busy
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 17 -> cd
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 18 -> umount /cd1
=== root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 19 ->

Thanks to Ken Deboy <glockr@locked_and_loaded.reno.nv.us> for pointing out this
omission.

Page 180
________

The example in the middle of the page should read:

For example, to generate a second set of 32 pseudo-terminals, enter:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV pty1

You can generate up to 256 pseudo-terminals.   They  are  named  ttyp0  through
ttypv,  ttyq0  through  ttyqv,  ttyr0 through ttyrv, ttys0 through ttysv, ttyP0
through ttyPv, ttyQ0 through ttyQv,  ttyR0  through  ttyRv  and  ttyS0  through
ttySv.   To  create  each  set  of 32 terminals, use the number of the set: the
first set is pty0, and the eighth set is pty7.  Note that some processes,  such
as xterm, only look at ttyp0 through ttysv.

Thanks to Karl Wagner <karl@softronex.dynip.com> for pointing out this error.


Page 197, first line
____________________

The text of the first full sentence reads:

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The first name, up the the  symbol, is the label.

In fact, it should read:

The first name, up to the | symbol, is the label.


Page 208, middle of page
________________________

The  example  shows  the  file  name /dev/rst0 when using the Bourne shell, and
/dev/nrst0  when  using  C  shell  and  friends.   This  is  inconsistent;  use
/dev/nrst0 with any shell if you want a non-rewinding tape, or /dev/rst0 if you
want a rewinding tape.

Thanks to Norman C Rice <nrice@emu.sourcee.com> for pointing out this one.

Page 219
________

Before the section Testing the spooler add the following section:

As we saw above, the line  printer  daemon  lpd  is  responsible  for  printing
spooled  jobs.   By default it isn't started at boot time.  If you're root, you
can start it by name:

# lpd

Normally, however, you will want it to be started automatically when the system
starts up.  You do this by setting the variable lpd_enable in /etc/rc.conf:

lpd_enable="YES"              # Run the line printer daemon

See page  for more details of /etc/rc.conf.

Another line in /etc/rc.conf refers to the line printer daemon:

lpd_flags=""        # Flags to lpd (if enabled).

You  don't  normally  need  to  change this line.  See the man page for lpd for
details of the flags.

Thanks to Tommy  G.  James  <tgj@worldnet.att.net>  for  bringing  this  to  my
attention.

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Page 231
________

Replace the first line of the example with:

xhost presto bumble gw

The original version allowed anybody on the Internet to access your system.

Thanks  to  Jerry  Dunham  <dunham@dunham.org>  for  drawing  this  one  to  my
attention.


Page 237
________

In the section Installing the sample desktop, replace the first paragraph with:

You'll  find  all  the  files  described  in  this  chapter on the first CD-ROM
(Installation CD-ROM) in the directory /book.  Remember that you must mount the
CD-ROM  before you can access the files--see page 175 for further details.  The
individual scripts are in the directory /book/scripts, but you'll probably find
it easier to install them with the script install-desktop:

Thanks to Chris Kaiser <kaiserc@fltg.net> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 242
________

The  instructions  for extracting the source files from CD-ROM in the middle of
page 242 are incorrect.  You'll find the kernel sources on the first CD-ROM  in
the directory /src.  Replace the example with:

# mkdir -p /usr/src/sys
# ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys
# cd /
# cat /cdrom/src/ssys.[a-d]* | tar xzvf -

Thanks    to    Raymond    Noel   <raynoel@videotron.ca>,   Suttipan   Limanond
<b0l6604@unix.tamu.edu> and Satwant <wizkid11@xnet.com> for finding this one in
several small slices.




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Page 257
________

Replace the paragraph Berkeley Packet Filter with:


pseudo-device bpfilter
______________________

The  Berkeley  Packet  Filter  (bpf)  allows  you to capture packets crossing a
network interface to disk or to examine them with the  tcpdump  program.   Note
that  this  capability represents a significant compromise of network security.
The number after bpfilter is the number of concurrent processes  that  can  use
the facility.  Not all network interfaces support bpf.

In  order  to  use  the Berkeley Packet Filter, you must also create the device
nodes /dev/bpf0 to /dev/bpf3 (if you're using the default number 4).   Current-
ly, MAKEDEV doesn't help much--you need to create each device separately:

# cd /dev
# ./MAKEDEV bpf0
# ./MAKEDEV bpf1
# ./MAKEDEV bpf2
# ./MAKEDEV bpf3

Thanks  to  Christopher  Raven  <c.raven@ukonline.co.uk> for drawing this to my
attention.

Page 264
________

In the list of disk driver flags, add:

o Bit 12 (0x1000) enables LBA (logical block addressing mode).  If this bit  is
  not set, the driver accesses the disk in CHS (cylinder/head/sector) mode.

o In  CHS  mode, if bits 11 to 8 are not equal to 0, they specify the number of
  heads to assume (between 1 and 15).  The driver recalculates  the  number  of
  cylinders to make up the total size of the disk.






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Page 273, ``Building the kernel''
_________________________________

Replace the example with:

Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel:

# cd ../../compile/FREEBIE
# make depend
# make

   The  make  depend  is needed even if the directory has just been created:
   apart from creating dependency information, it also  creates  some  files
   needed for the build.
Thanks to Mark Ovens <marcov@globalnet.co.uk> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 283, ``Creating the source tree''
______________________________________

Add a third point to what you need to know:

3. Possibly, the date of the last update that you want to be  included  in  the
  checkout.   If  you  specify  this date, cvs ignores any more recent updates.
  This option is often useful when somebody discovers a recently introduced bug
  in  -CURRENT:  you  check  out  the  modules  as they were before the bug was
  introduced.  You specify the date with the -D  option,  for  example  -D  "10
  December 1997".


Page 285, after the second example.
___________________________________

Add the text:

If  you  need  to check out an older version, for example if there are problems
with the most recent version of -CURRENT, you could enter:

# cvs co  -D "10 December 1997" src/sys

This command checks out the kernel sources as of 10 December 1997.





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Page 294
________

Add the following section:

Problems executing Linux binaries
_________________________________

One of the problems with the ELF format used by more recent Linux  binaries  is
that  they  usually  contain no information to identify them as Linux binaries.
They might equally well be BSD/OS or UnixWare binaries.  That's  not  really  a
problem  at  this point, since the only ELF format that FreeBSD 3.2 understands
is Linux, but FreeBSD-CURRENT recognizes a native FreeBSD ELF format  as  well,
and  of  course  that's  the default.  If you want to run a Linux ELF binary on
such a system, you must brand the executable using the program  brandelf.   For
example, to brand the StarOffice program swriter3, you would enter:

# brandelf -t linux /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/swriter3

Thanks to Dan Busarow <dan@dpcsys.com> for bringing this to my attention.

Page 364, middle of page
________________________

Change the text from:

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end of the link.  They must be written as shown, though they may  be  in  lower
case.

to

The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each
end of the link.  They must be written as shown, though newer versions  of  ppp
allow you to write them in lower case.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman <mark@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> for this correction.

Page 368
________

Replace the paragraph after the second example with:

In  FreeBSD  version  3.0  and  later,  specify  the  options  PPP_BSDCOMP  and

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PPP_DEFLATE to enable two kinds of compression.  You'll also  need  to  specify
the corresponding option in Kernel PPP's configuration file.  These options are
not available in FreeBSD version 2.

Thanks to Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org> for this information.

Page 397
________

In the section ``Nicknames'', the example should read:

www       IN   CNAME          freebie
ftp       IN   CNAME          presto

In other words, there should be a space between CNAME and the system name.

Page 422
________

Replace the text above the example with:

tcpdump is a program which monitors a network interface and  displays  selected
information which passes through it.  It uses the Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf),
an optional component of the kernel.  It is not included in the GENERIC kernel:
see page 257 for information on how to configure it.

If you don't configure the Berkeley Packet Filter, you will get a message like

tcpdump: /dev/bpf0:  device not configured

If you forget to create the devices for bpf, you will get a message like:

tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory

Since  tcpdump poses a potential security problem, you must be root in order to
run it.  The simplest way to run it is without any parameters.  This will cause
tcpdump  to  monitor  and  display  all  traffic  on  the  first active network
interface, normally Ethernet:

Thanks to Christopher Raven <c.raven@ukonline.co.uk> for  drawing  this  to  my
attention.




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Page 423
________

The  description  at  the  top of the page incorrectly uses the term IP address
instead  of  Ethernet  address.   In  addition,  a  page  number  reference  is
incorrect.  Replace the paragraph with:

o Line  1  shows  an  ARP  request:  system  presto is looking for the Ethernet
  address of wait.  It would appear that  wait  is  currently  not  responding,
  since there is no reply.

o Line 2 is not an IP message at all.  tcpdump shows the Ethernet addresses and
  the beginning of the packet.  We don't consider this kind of request in  this
  book.

o Line 3 is a broadcast ntp message.  We looked at ntp on page 160.

o Line 4 is another attempt by presto to find the IP address of wait.

o Line  5  is  a  broadcast  message  from  bumble  on  the  rwho  port, giving
  information about its current load averages and how long it has been up.  See
  the man page for rwho on page 1167 for more information.

o Line 6 is from a TCP connection between port 6000 on freebie and port 1089 on
  presto.  It is sending 384 bytes (with  the  sequence  numbers  536925467  to
  536925851; see page 305), and is acknowledging that the last byte it received
  from presto had the sequence number 325114346.  The window size is 17280.

o Line 7 is another ARP request.  presto is looking for the Ethernet address of
  freebie.   How  can  that  happen?   We've  just  seen  that  they have a TCP
  connection.  In fact, ARP information expires after 20 minutes.   It's  quite
  possible  that  all  connections between presto and freebie have been dormant
  for this period, so presto needs to find freebie's IP address again.

o Line 8 is the ARP reply from freebie to presto giving its Ethernet address.

o Line 9 shows a reply from presto on the connection to freebie that we saw  on
  line  6.   It  acknowledges  the  data  up  to sequence number 536925851, but
  doesn't send any itself.

o Line 10 shows  another  448  bytes  of  data  from  freebie  to  presto,  and
  acknowledging the same sequence number from presto as in line 6.

Thanks to Sergei S. Laskavy <laskavy@hedgehog.cs.msu.su> for drawing this to my

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attention.

Page 450: anonymous ftp
_______________________

Replace the paragraph starting with Create a user ftp:

Create a user ftp, with the anonymous ftp directory as the home  directory  and
the  shell  /dev/null.  Using /dev/null as the shell makes it impossible to log
in as user ftp, but does not interfere with the use of anonymous ftp.  ftp  can
be a member of group bin, or you can create a new group ftp by adding the group
to /etc/group.  See page 138 for more details of adding users, and the man page
on page 805 for adding groups.

Thanks to Mark S. Reichman <mark@borg.com> for drawing this to my attention.

Page 466, before the ps example
_______________________________

Add another bullet:

o Finally,  you may find it convenient to let some other system handle all your
  mail delivery for you: you just send anything you can't  deliver  locally  to
  this  other  host,  which  sendmail calls a smart host.  This is particularly
  convenient if you send your mail with UUCP.

  To tell sendmail to use a smart host (in our  case,  mail.example.net),  find
  the following line in sendmail.cf:

  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DS

  Change it to:

  # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
  DSmail.example.net


Page 478, ``Running Apache''
____________________________

The  text  describes the location of the server as /usr/local/www/server/httpd.
This appears to depend on where you get the port from.  Some people report  the
file  being  at the more likely location /usr/local/sbin/httpd (though note the

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directory sbin, not bin).  Check  both  locations  if  you  run  into  trouble.
Thanks to Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> for this information.

Page 492
________

Replace references to nmdb with nmbd.

Page 493
________

Replace the last paragraph on the page with:

socket  options  is  hardly  mentioned  in  the  documentation,  but  it's very
important:  many  Microsoft  implementations  of  TCP/IP  are  inefficient  and
establish  a  new  TCP  more  often  than necessary.  Select the socket options
TCP_NODELAY and IPTOS_LOWDELAY, which can speed up the response  time  of  such
applications by over 95%.



























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Hey everyone-

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Hi all;

I'm sure this question may have been posted before in one form or another,
but I was at a loss to find anything like it in the archives.

Just wondering how others handle public_html administration permissions
for a remote admin.  Basically, I have the following situation:

Some hosting clients publish their own files to their public_html
directories via ftp.

A www user (in a different group, and not wheel), also needs full access
to public_html directories of users, to handle tech support concerns, or
co-authoring with some clients.

The www user has login privileges on ftp (chroot'ed).  Also has some
basic shell access; though my www helper isn't that comfortable with a
unix prompt :-)  The www user needs to log in from another (remote)
network, as well.

The emphasis here is on not giving more access to anyone than is needed.
Clients are chroot'ed into their respective home directories, with write
access ONLY to their public_html directories (and ftp/pub, in some cases).

www is chroot'ed to /home on our webserver, which houses all web clients,
as well as our company site pages.

su is not an option.  Remote root logins also not an option :-)  Blanket
umask creation settings also not applicable, here.  :-)

/home is its own filesystem, if that helps.  (Though, mount options don't
look very promising :-)

Any suggestions would be great.



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I created user accounts for each virtual domain
So a username would be
virtualdomain_com
the home directory would be
/home/virtualdomain_com
the pointer in the httpd.conf would be
/home/virtualdomain_com/public_html

this way only the specific user and root have write permission to the
webpage directory
the user can have telnet and ftp access or however you want to do it...


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Subject: public_html admin perms?

Hi all;

I'm sure this question may have been posted before in one form or another,
but I was at a loss to find anything like it in the archives.

Just wondering how others handle public_html administration permissions
for a remote admin.  Basically, I have the following situation:

Some hosting clients publish their own files to their public_html
directories via ftp.

A www user (in a different group, and not wheel), also needs full access
to public_html directories of users, to handle tech support concerns, or
co-authoring with some clients.

The www user has login privileges on ftp (chroot'ed).  Also has some
basic shell access; though my www helper isn't that comfortable with a
unix prompt :-)  The www user needs to log in from another (remote)
network, as well.

The emphasis here is on not giving more access to anyone than is needed.
Clients are chroot'ed into their respective home directories, with write
access ONLY to their public_html directories (and ftp/pub, in some cases).

www is chroot'ed to /home on our webserver, which houses all web clients,
as well as our company site pages.

su is not an option.  Remote root logins also not an option :-)  Blanket
umask creation settings also not applicable, here.  :-)

/home is its own filesystem, if that helps.  (Though, mount options don't
look very promising :-)

Any suggestions would be great.



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Aaron Sonntag wrote:
> 
> I created user accounts for each virtual domain
> So a username would be
> virtualdomain_com
> the home directory would be
> /home/virtualdomain_com
> the pointer in the httpd.conf would be
> /home/virtualdomain_com/public_html
> 
> this way only the specific user and root have write permission to the
> webpage directory
> the user can have telnet and ftp access or however you want to do it...

Perhaps I wasn't quite clear when I described the 'www' user in some
detail.

The www user is a single 'admin' account (non-superuser) designed to
administer (and only administer) the various public_html directories of
hosting clients.


> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ryan Thompson
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 7:23 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: public_html admin perms?
> 
> Hi all;
> 
> I'm sure this question may have been posted before in one form or another,
> but I was at a loss to find anything like it in the archives.
> 
> Just wondering how others handle public_html administration permissions
> for a remote admin.  Basically, I have the following situation:
> 
> Some hosting clients publish their own files to their public_html
> directories via ftp.
> 
> A www user (in a different group, and not wheel), also needs full access
> to public_html directories of users, to handle tech support concerns, or
> co-authoring with some clients.
> 
> The www user has login privileges on ftp (chroot'ed).  Also has some
> basic shell access; though my www helper isn't that comfortable with a
> unix prompt :-)  The www user needs to log in from another (remote)
> network, as well.
> 
> The emphasis here is on not giving more access to anyone than is needed.
> Clients are chroot'ed into their respective home directories, with write
> access ONLY to their public_html directories (and ftp/pub, in some cases).
> 
> www is chroot'ed to /home on our webserver, which houses all web clients,
> as well as our company site pages.
> 
> su is not an option.  Remote root logins also not an option :-)  Blanket
> umask creation settings also not applicable, here.  :-)
> 
> /home is its own filesystem, if that helps.  (Though, mount options don't
> look very promising :-)
> 
> Any suggestions would be great.
> 
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Hello currently I am running

freebsd227
kde1.0

I currently installed

rpm225
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Staroffice3.1

I typed "/usr/local/bin/simag3"

[sv //window e0004} error. parent before child destroyed

cant find initalisation script /home/username/ .sd.sh user install must be 
complete before simage3 can.

Question:-

How do I find a resolution to the problem?

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Hello
    I seem to be having trouble installing FreeBSD.  I already have Dos and
RedHat Linux on my computer.  When I try to install, it gets passed the
install type dialog box and then says cannot create device /dev/X.  aborting
installation.  Do you know what is wrong?




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Hi Jonathon,

	Yes, FreeBSD is quirky.  In my dictionary, Webster's New World College
Dictionary, definition 3 of "quirk": a peculiarty, peculiar trait, or
mannerism. 

	If one thinks FreeBSD is quirky, then, to him it is. 

	Like beauty, it is in the eyes of the beholder.

Sincerely,

Don James



At 06:28 PM 11/19/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>A 'hacker' friend of mine who is quite a Unix guru and who loves Linux
>gave FreeBSD a try recently.  These were his comments:
>
>       I *really* dislike the kernel configuration -- enabling/disabling
>features causes the compile to crap out in different areas, so
>       doing anything fancy becomes a time-intensive trial-and-error
>job. Awful. And inflexible too; I was not able to select a
>       PCMCIA NIC and a normal NIC [yeah, I was just toying around, but
>what if I had a docking station?] without the compile
>       crapping out. And the recommended FP stuff ['use GNU'] caused a
>kernel panic when I rebooted.
>
>       The docs seem more sparse for BSD --no NAG, so LPG, no SAG-- but
>maybe I just never poked around enough. A lot of
>       FreeBSD is the same as linux, of course, as linux is rather
>heavily influenced by the BSD camp and they use many of the same
>       tools.
>
>       I like linux better even thouhg the bsd daemon is cooler ;) Linux
>seems more flexible and seems to be a general unix with
>       enhancements --like vim is to vi-- whereas FreeBSD is quirkly
>like the other unixes. For some reason, linux never seemed
>       to have many 'quirks' to me [relative to other unixes that is] --
>everything is straightforward, and the tendency to implement
>       both SysV and BSD features means it will act however you expect
>it to.
>
>       Of course I like BSD better than SysV [another factor influencing
>by Solaris views], but the SysV init stuff is quite nice....
>
>     <end quote>
>
>Any thoughts on his kernel issues?  Those seem to be the only ones that
>are major issues here.  Is FreeBSD 'quirky' ?  And what
>advantages/disadvantages does FreeBSD kernel configuration have compared
>to Linux ?
>
>-jm
>
>
>
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Well, thanks to everyone for their invaluable help.  I did, indeed, get
the program to work and can now choose between booting to either Windows
98 or FreeBSD3.3.  I must say, however, that i think this is a fairly
big issue, considering the growing curiousity towards Unix and Linux of
the mainstream and the dropping price of hard drives.  Thanks again,


will


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Does anyone have any information or links to using a TeleVideo 9085 dumb
terminal with FreeBSD?  A couple of these puppies fell into my lap and I
don't really know where to start to get them working (or even what is
possible with them).

I have searched the freebsd.org website and the mail archives and turned
up nothing.

Thanks,

--gill



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Does it make any sense?  Or does it make sense to just wait 3
more weeks and do the full upgrade?



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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Mata Cervantes Hector Jose wrote:

> hi. I need all information you can give about managing processes in freeBSD
> how the kernel works with the memmory and all that technical stuff
> here in my school we are working on your OS, and even when we have 
> read all about instalation and customization we have no information about
> that i've jut asked

"The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System"
by McKusick is your best bet.

If you are interested in work in progress I suggest you subscribe
and read the -hackers, -current, -smp and -cvs mailing lists.

-Alfred



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Ok people, ive got a serious problem here.

I have a FreeBSD 3.2 box here setup as a gateway for a small LAN.

The internal network addresses are 10.0.0.x with a mask of 255.0.0.0

I have a external interface on this box as well with an outside address
of: x.x.x.x

I have a custom kernel compiled with the two required variables to run
natd.

I have a natd.startup script that runs on boot that enters all of the
required network configuration in and calls natd with the -f
/etc/natd.conf statement.  Within the natd.conf file are a the natd flags
I need for my network here, as well as some other commands.  

--natd.startup--

firewall_type="open"
firewall_enable="YES"

ifconfig tx0 x.x.x.x netmask 255.255.255.0

route add default x.x.x.x

if config de0 10.0.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0

sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1

natd -f /etc/natd.conf &

/sbin/ipfw -f flush
/sbin/ipfw add 100 divert natd all from any to any via tx0
/sbin/ipfw add 64999 pass all from any to any via lo0
/sbin/ipfw add 65000 pass all from any to any

--end natd.startup--

--natd.conf--

interface tx0
same ports yes
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:8383 8383
redirect_port upd 10.0.0.6:8383 8383
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:80 80
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:80 80
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:110 110
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:110 110
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:143 143
redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:143 143
redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:25 25
redirect_port upd 10.0.0.6:25 25

--end natd.conf--


Please Help!  I've read the Complete FreeBSD on this, all man pages, and
scoured the newsgroups!  

TIA!

Christian



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Christian
> Williams
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 10:00 PM
> To: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: a little help from my friends?
> 
> 
> Ok people, ive got a serious problem here.
> 
> I have a FreeBSD 3.2 box here setup as a gateway for a small LAN.
> 
> The internal network addresses are 10.0.0.x with a mask of 255.0.0.0
> 
It's really great to see users doing what I do... A *real* netmask...

Just my .02 worth - Congrats Christian - users like you make me feel 
much better about using what 'sposed to be used...


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<REPOST FOR CORRECTIONS>

Ok people, ive got a serious problem here.
 
I have a FreeBSD 3.2 box here setup as a gateway for a small LAN.

The internal network addresses are 10.0.0.x with a mask of 255.0.0.0
 
I have a external interface on this box as well with an outside address
of: x.x.x.x
 
I have a custom kernel compiled with the two required variables to run
natd.
 
I have a natd.startup script that runs on boot that enters all of the
required network configuration in and calls natd with the -f
/etc/natd.conf statement.  Within the natd.conf file are a the natd flags
I need for my network here, as well as some other commands.  
 
 --natd.startup--
 
 firewall_type="open"
 firewall_enable="YES"
 
 ifconfig tx0 x.x.x.x netmask 255.255.255.0
 
 route add default x.x.x.x
 
 if config de0 10.0.0.4 netmask 255.0.0.0
 
 sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
 
 natd -f /etc/natd.conf &
 
 /sbin/ipfw -f flush
 /sbin/ipfw add 100 divert natd all from any to any via tx0
 /sbin/ipfw add 64999 pass all from any to any via lo0
 /sbin/ipfw add 65000 pass all from any to any
 
 --end natd.startup--
 
 --natd.conf--
 
 interface tx0
 same ports yes
 redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:8383 8383
 redirect_port upd 10.0.0.6:8383 8383
 redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:80 80
 redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:80 80
 redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:110 110
 redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:110 110
 redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:143 143
 redirect_port udp 10.0.0.6:143 143
 redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.6:25 25
 redirect_port upd 10.0.0.6:25 25
 
 --end natd.conf--
 
None of my redirects are working!  Where have I gone wrong?

 Please Help!  I've read the Complete FreeBSD on this, all man pages, and
 scoured the newsgroups!  
 
 TIA!
 
 Christian
 
 
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I have a Compaq Presario laptop, a PII 266MHz, 64M RAM, running
Win98/3.3-Release.  It has an internal winmodem attached to COM2 and a
pccard faxmodem attached to COM3.  The computer physically has 1 serial port
on the back which the BIOS correctly reports, but the BIOS says nothing
about any other internal ports, and further does not give me any information
about IRQ's, etc.

According to the Windows diagnostic tools I have used, the COM ports are all
set up in a normal fashion with the typical IRQ's for these ports that
FreeBSD uses as defaults.

During boot, FreeBSD always reports sio0 as found, but it reports all other
sio's as "not found", and the IRQ's for these ports as "not in the
bitmap...".

From here, things get a little odd.  About half the time, FreeBSD continues
with the boot with nothing further to say about the sio ports, launches
pccardd, and reports that there is no card in the database matching ""("").
pccardc dumpcis in this case reports two slots available and no other
information.  Stopping and restarting pccardd has no effect, almost as
though it were unable to see the card in the slot.

The other half of the time, FreeBSD reports the same messages about the sio
ports as I stated above, including the explicit message that sio2 is not
found at ..., and then it goes on to reporting on the hard drive and the
cdrom and so forth, and then, when the boot process is practically finished,
the line "sio2 16550A" appears, usually just before (or sometimes even
after) the login prompt appears.

When this happens, pccardd detects the card in the slot normally, and
pccardc dumpcis will report all the tuples in a nice long list.  pccardd
will invariably report that it is unable to allocate resources for this
card, but that's a whole other problem I'll deal with later.  What gets me
is that I can just login as root at this point, do nothing else but issue
the "reboot" command, and during the subsequent boot process, sio2 will have
mysteriously disappeared again.  There seems to be no rhyme or reason to
when FreeBSD is able to detect this port.

This problem is completely baffling to me.  Why would FreeBSD report
initially that sio2 is not found, and then change its mind later on in the
boot?  Why would it be able to detect this port at all only half the time?
My computer seems like it should be a fairly plain-vanilla construction
rather than some weird off-the-wall mix of odd peripherals that was put
together in someone's garage... has anyone encountered this problem before?

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Is there a simple way to get the backspace key to work right for
the default root shell?  That is CSH, right?



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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:51:17 EST, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> Is there a simple way to get the backspace key to work right for
> the default root shell?  That is CSH, right?

In your .cshrc, add:

	stty erase ^H

The "^" and the "H" can be two distinct characters; you needn't try to
get clever about storing a control character in your .cshrc file.

See the stty(1) manual page for more details.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Whenever I try to scan with nmap on any host other than localhost i get
the error
sendto in send_tcp_raw: sendto(3, packet, 40, 0, X.X.X.X, 16) => No
buffer space available
Sleeping 15 seconds then retrying
sendto in send_tcp_raw: sendto(3, packet, 40, 0, X.X.X.X, 16) => No
buffer space available

X.X.X.X is the ip address

it continues doing this until i have to kill it
anyone know what is wrong?



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okay ummm heres one, when connecting to a fresh 3.3 installed system via
ftp
i get 

 ftp XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
Connected to XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX


then 

about 60 seconds later i get a 


220 ftp.somehost.com FTP server (Version 6.00) ready.
Name (XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:username): 


why is it taking so long to prompt for login ???? any ideas ????
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Anyone have sound working on their Thinkpad 600E under Freebsd? What drivers
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From owner-freebsd-questions  Fri Nov 19 21:54:37 1999
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Hello...

I have an external LS-120 Imation drive. I have looked
everywhere to find information on how to set it up on
FreeBSD 3.2.  If You would like to help me please send
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Have you tried mapping the network drive via ip address? Make sure
this new machine has the HOST file in the windows dir. Also, I
remember something about needing to change the registry to allow clear
passwords. Hope this helps...

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Hey everyone-

     I've got a 3.2 box here running Samba and I just added a windows
98
workstation to the network, it for some reason can't see the Samba
server...all the other 98 and NT boxes still work fine- it's just this
new
workstation...If I do a find-computer and put in the IP address I
can't see
it from that one workstation either....what could be wrong here??

Thanks,
Bernie

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It looks like a network problem to me. Due a ping and see how long does the
ping take, also ping your DNS server it just might be taking a while till it
reverse lookup the address. Try using FQDN if you have a nameserver
specified. also do a  traceroute to your DNS server see how many hops till
you reach it and the delay associated. Hopefully that helps.

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> okay ummm heres one, when connecting to a fresh 3.3 installed system via
> ftp
> i get
>
>  ftp XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
> Connected to XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
>
>
> then
>
> about 60 seconds later i get a
>
>
> 220 ftp.somehost.com FTP server (Version 6.00) ready.
> Name (XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:username):
>
>
> why is it taking so long to prompt for login ???? any ideas ????
> --
> Windows 95 (win-DOH-z), n. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical
> shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system
> originally coded for a four bit microprocessor which was used in a PC
> built by a formerly two bit company that couldn't stand one bit of
> competition.
>
>
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On Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 10:00:48AM +1100, Nick wrote:
> 
> > is the G400 supported by FreeBSD with the latest XFree86 ?
> > thanks
> > 
> 
> 
> The G400 is supported under XFree 3.3.5, which is on the 3.3-R CD set.

And works realy nice. I just installed it in my WS, and have got 24bit
colour depth in 1280x1024

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I don't want to start a religious war here, but there is a few comments I
cannot resist to poke in.

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> A 'hacker' friend of mine who is quite a Unix guru and who loves Linux
> gave FreeBSD a try recently.  These were his comments:
> 
>        I *really* dislike the kernel configuration -- enabling/disabling
> features causes the compile to crap out in different areas, so

In other words, he likes a user-friendly kernel configuration such as the
'make menuconfig' feature of linux - so much for being hackerish.

>        doing anything fancy becomes a time-intensive trial-and-error
> job. Awful. And inflexible too; I was not able to select a

Trial and error is guessing, guessing is a sign of not knowing what an
individual is doing.

> 
>        I like linux better even thouhg the bsd daemon is cooler ;) Linux
> seems more flexible and seems to be a general unix with
>        enhancements --like vim is to vi-- 

Yes, we all love Chucky more than that silly penguin thing :-)

> Any thoughts on his kernel issues?  Those seem to be the only ones that
> are major issues here.  Is FreeBSD 'quirky' ?  And what
> advantages/disadvantages does FreeBSD kernel configuration have compared
> to Linux ?
> 

Your friend would have to define examples of 'quirkyness'.  I've been
using FreeBSD for a good 3 years, and Linux for 4 years or so.  I've
pulled out a lot more hair with Linux instabilities and itty bitty
problems.  

I've never had a problem with FreeBSD until just recently after upgrading
to 3.3-STABLE - it has locked up twice for no particular reason.  Although
FreeBSD always seemed a bit more hardware picky.  For example, Linux seems
to give you a little more slack if you have some faulty hardware (or a
Cyrix processor for that matter)

As far as the advantages and disadvantages of the kernel configuration, I
am assuming you mean the features which can be enabled rather than the
actual configuration format itself.  One could go on and on forever about
that.  Your best option is to take a look at /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT
file, and compare it to the configuration options of Linux.

Hope this will make good arguing with your friend,
Cheers,

				-Chris England



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I'm wondering if the phone you're talking about is the Qualcomm
QCP-860 (or one of the other "slim" phones)?  I recently bought one of 
these and found out about the data cable, etc.  I took my phone back
to my local GTE office and borrowed their data cable, plugging it into 
my FreeBSD 3.1 system, and used "tip" to connect at 9600 baud.  Typing 
"AT", I expected "OK", but saw nothing.  I didn't try other baud
rates, but I would have expected the phone to understand that speed.
I should have tried other baud rates.

Asking Qualcomm about it, I received a canned response which didn't
really directly address my questions, but it seemed to be hinting that 
maybe I saw nothing because my phone hadn't been "enabled" for their
type of data communication.  Apparently this is a service which costs
somewhere around $4/month.  I'm guessing that if you haven't signed up 
for the service, then the modem part doesn't work?  Or maybe there's
some special code which has to be sent to the phone to enable it?

/raj

William Woods writes:
 > Hmm....well, The phone is a Qualcom, diual modem (digital and analog), as for
 > GSM or US Standards, I would assume US standards....
 > 
 > On 19-Nov-99 Duncan Barclay wrote:
 > > 
 > > On 19-Nov-99 Bill Woods wrote:
 > >> I have a chance to buy a "cellular kit" from my cell provider, but before
 > >> I do, I want to ask a few questions.
 > >> 
 > >> This "kit" is basically a cable that runs from the serial port on a laptop
 > >> to the cell phone. There is some software, but oif course it is windows
 > >> only. I know this is limited information, but this is all I have. I assume
 > >> the cable acts like a modem on a serial port, but does anyone know if
 > >> FreeBSD has any support for anything like this?
 > >> 
 > >> William


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Colin Campbell wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I had a USR Sportster (28k) for several years and it worked flawlessly.
> When I went 56k I was persuaded to buy a local model (Banksia) and it died
> within 3 weeks. Should have gone the USR.
> 
> You should also ask the boss if he "looks like the one at the ISP" :-)

A great suggestion: i should make him a birthday card based on this
idea 

> Colin


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Thanks for your replay.

Kent Stewart wrote:
> 
> Ion Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Could someone provide me with some info about this type of
> > modem ? (If possible also a web resource and/or some tehnical
> > book, as my boss is a little bit untrustfull).
> >
> > I`m having a debate with my boss: he tella me it is not a good
> > modem becouse "it doesn`t look like" the one he saw at our ISP.
> > I need to demostrate him that it is a good modem for a dial up
> > connection over a analog line and also for a dedicated analog line,
> > and that it is capable to "understand" GOOD with the Sportser and
> > Courier modems our provider has.
> > It undestands the V.90, x2, V.34, V.42/MNP 2-4, V.42 bis/MNP 5
> > standards.
> 
> You can get the information from 3Com's web site at
> http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/products/prod-56k.html. I am with your
> boss because I can't see using a voice modem, which needs additional
> system capability to be functional, on a computer dial up line. I
> equate adding a voice and Pro modem on to a FreeBSD system with more
> cost and no additional functionality to the dial out capabilities of
> your system.

I`ve did search through that page, and the closest was 56K Voice
Faxmodem 
Pro; i was unable to find the specific type i am looking for (they've 
told me : 
>From the product number you have given this product appears to be a 
Gateway OEM modem.  Please contact Gateway for support with this 
product.  I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.)

I plan to move this modem to an win98 computer (I have a mixt
network).
I`ve found this modem at the same price with an non-vioce and Pro one.

My original question was (it seems due to my bad english i have to 
rephrase it): Is there any disadvantage using this modem ?
Are there any incompatibilities between it and Sportster or Courier ?
(would a Sportster or Courier understand better with a Sportster or 
Courier ?).
 
> I have also found that USR modems (Sportster's, Courier's, and etc)
> talk to each other just fine. An external voice modem isn't going to
> look like a rackmount modem, which your ISP probably has.

I know, but it isn't the look who counts, isn't it ? :-)

Ionut
 
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Ion Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your replay.
> 
> Kent Stewart wrote:
> >
> > Ion Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Could someone provide me with some info about this type of
> > > modem ? (If possible also a web resource and/or some tehnical
> > > book, as my boss is a little bit untrustfull).
> > >
> > > I`m having a debate with my boss: he tella me it is not a good
> > > modem becouse "it doesn`t look like" the one he saw at our ISP.
> > > I need to demostrate him that it is a good modem for a dial up
> > > connection over a analog line and also for a dedicated analog line,
> > > and that it is capable to "understand" GOOD with the Sportser and
> > > Courier modems our provider has.
> > > It undestands the V.90, x2, V.34, V.42/MNP 2-4, V.42 bis/MNP 5
> > > standards.
> >
> > You can get the information from 3Com's web site at
> > http://www.3com.com/client/pcd/products/prod-56k.html. I am with your
> > boss because I can't see using a voice modem, which needs additional
> > system capability to be functional, on a computer dial up line. I
> > equate adding a voice and Pro modem on to a FreeBSD system with more
> > cost and no additional functionality to the dial out capabilities of
> > your system.
> 
> I`ve did search through that page, and the closest was 56K Voice
> Faxmodem
> Pro; i was unable to find the specific type i am looking for (they've
> told me :
> >From the product number you have given this product appears to be a
> Gateway OEM modem.  Please contact Gateway for support with this
> product.  I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.)
> 
> I plan to move this modem to an win98 computer (I have a mixt
> network).
> I`ve found this modem at the same price with an non-vioce and Pro one.
> 
> My original question was (it seems due to my bad english i have to
> rephrase it): Is there any disadvantage using this modem ?
> Are there any incompatibilities between it and Sportster or Courier ?
> (would a Sportster or Courier understand better with a Sportster or
> Courier ?).

I have been facing the same problem. My spare 33.6kb modem died and
you can find a lot of Winmodems and voice/fax modems. If you use it on
the Windows machine, I think you will find that you need a sound card
and additional IRQ to use their software and a voice modem. I think
that adding a voice modem to a line that is mostly just dial out is
adding additional trouble. Something else to disable before you use
it.

I've always found that USR modems talk to USR modems and it didn't
seem to matter which type it was. I've alway been told that you will
not get 56kb between hobby (end-user) modems. The hobby modem can
download 56kb but will only upload 33.6kb and two hobby modems talking
to each other are going to run at 33.6kb.

Kent

> 
> > I have also found that USR modems (Sportster's, Courier's, and etc)
> > talk to each other just fine. An external voice modem isn't going to
> > look like a rackmount modem, which your ISP probably has.
> 
> I know, but it isn't the look who counts, isn't it ? :-)
> 
> Ionut
> 
> __________________________________________________________
> 
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<p>Dear Glove Users,
<p>You can use latex gloves anywhere to protect yourself from the
<br>Aids, hepatitis, and other body-fluid borne viruses. In 1998 alone,
<br>about 30 billion latex exam gloves were sold in the U.S.
<p>The wide use of latex gloves has led to allergic reactions. The
<br>reactions come from the proteins on the gloves.
<p>Clinical studies have revealed that the incidence of allergic
<br>reactions is negligible at protein contents of 100 m g/g
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Labeling claim of 50 mcg or less of total water=

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<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Lower Allergenicity (Test results available
on request)
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cost effective alternative to powder free
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<br>&nbsp;
<p>Contact Person: Angie Ng
<br>Glovco SDN BHD (393810 H)
<br>Lot 760, Jalan Haji Sirat, Off Jalan Meru,
<br>42100 Klang, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia
<br>Phone: 603-3913888 (Office)
<br>FAX: 603-3916070
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Contact Person: Michelle Zhu or Emma Die
<br>Yen Enterprise, Inc.
<br>501 S. Santa Fe
<br>Santa Ana, CA 92705
<br>Phone: 714-285-2891
<br>Fax: 714-285-2889
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hepatitis,
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FACE=3D"Garamond"
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<p>&lt;P>Dear Glove Users,&lt;/p>
<br>&lt;p>You can use latex gloves anywhere to protect yourself from the
AIDS,
<br>hepatitis, and other body-fluid borne viruses. In 1998 alone, about
30 billion
<br>latex exam gloves were sold in the United States.&lt;/P>
<br>&lt;P>The wide use of latex gloves has led to allergic reactions. The
reactions
<br>come from the proteins on the gloves.&lt;/P>
<br>&lt;P>Clinical studies have revealed that the incidence of &lt;/FONT>&l=
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m)
glove. &lt;/P>
<br>&lt;P>Through research and development, GLOVCO has developed a unique
<br>deproteinisation process which produces a technologically advanced
product with reduced protein and powder contents.&lt;/P>
<br>&lt;/FONT>&lt;FONT FACE=3D"Garamond" SIZE=3D4>&lt;P>GLOVCO&lt;br>&lt;/F=
ONT>&lt;FONT
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<br>&nbsp;
<p>&lt;UL>
<br>&lt;LI>a label claim of 50 &lt;/FONT>&lt;FONT FACE=3D"Symbol" Size=3D+2=
>m&lt;/FONT>&lt;FONT
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per gram
<br>glove (510K registration number available on request). &lt;/LI>
<br>&lt;LI>Powder content of less than 50 mg/glove. &lt;/LI>
<br>&lt;LI>Lower Allergenicity (Test results available on request) &lt;/LI>=

<br>&lt;LI>Cost effective alternative to other gloves.&lt;/font>&lt;/LI>&lt=
;/UL>&lt;br>
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Reaction Graph>&lt;br>&lt;br>
<br>&lt;p>&lt;FONT
<br>FACE=3D"Garamond" SIZE=3D3>
<br>The high red curve shows the percentage of gloved workers that react
to latex as the
<br>glove-protein-level decreases. The low skin-toned line is the range
of protein levels that an independent
<br>medical laboratory found in GLOVCO low-protein gloves.&lt;/p>
<p>&lt;p>The maximum protein level in GLOVCO's low-protein gloves was less
than 50
<br>millionths gram/gram of glove.&nbsp; The mean protein level was near
<br>30 millionths gram/gram of glove.&nbsp; And the lowest protein level
was less than 20
<br>millionths gram/gram of glove. The level of protein in a low-protein
glove is
<br>so low that it is nearly undetectable using advanced tests.
<p>&lt;/FONT>&lt;p>&lt;br>
<br>&lt;A HREF=3D"http://glovcoweb.tripod.com/Letters/ltrnb_Copy_2-2.html"
target=3D"_parent">&lt;center>&lt;/font>&lt;/font>&lt;font face=3Dhelvetica=
>&lt;h3>Request
Sample Gloves and Prices&lt;br>&lt;blink>Click
<br>Here&lt;/blink>&lt;/h3>&lt;/center>&lt;/font>&lt;/a>&lt;br>
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<br>Glovco (M) Sdn Bhd&lt;br>
<br>Lot 760, Jalan Haji Sirat, Off Jalan Meru,&lt;br>
<br>42100 Klang, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia&lt;br>
<br>Phone: 603-3913888 &lt;br>
<br>FAX: 603-3916070&lt;br>
<br>&lt;/Font>&lt;/Address>
<br>&lt;/td>
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<br>Yen Enterprise, Inc.&lt;br>
<br>501 S. Santa Fe&lt;br>
<br>Santa Ana, CA 92705&lt;br>
<br>Phone: 714-285-2891&lt;br>
<br>Fax: 714-285-2889&lt;br>
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I have looked all over my system for telenetd.  I want to put an
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system cannot find telnetd anywhere.  What have i done wrong?

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Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> I have looked all over my system for telenetd.  I want to put an
> entry in rc.local to let my friend telent in.  But it seems my
> system cannot find telnetd anywhere.  What have i done wrong?
>
> -jm
>

bash-2.03$ locate telnetd
/usr/libexec/telnetd

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On Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 12:47:34AM -0500, TrouBle wrote:

> okay ummm heres one, when connecting to a fresh 3.3 installed
> system via ftp
> ... 
> about 60 seconds later i get a 

Almost surely, this is a reverse-DNS lookup problem.  Your
machine (the one running the ftp client) does not have a reverse
DNS entry.

If you don't want to set the DNS right, just add your machine's IP
and hostname to the /etc/hosts file of the server (the machine
running the ftp server).

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On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> I have looked all over my system for telenetd.  I want to put an
> entry in rc.local to let my friend telent in.  But it seems my
> system cannot find telnetd anywhere.  What have i done wrong?
> 

Never mind rc.local. Uncomment telnet in /etc/inetd.conf and HUP inetd.
Actually, never mind telnet, make him use ssh.

-ac


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On 20-Nov-99 Richard Johnson wrote:
>  Asking Qualcomm about it, I received a canned response which didn't
>  really directly address my questions, but it seemed to be hinting that 
>  maybe I saw nothing because my phone hadn't been "enabled" for their
>  type of data communication.  Apparently this is a service which costs
>  somewhere around $4/month.  I'm guessing that if you haven't signed up 
>  for the service, then the modem part doesn't work?  Or maybe there's
>  some special code which has to be sent to the phone to enable it?

For Nokia 5110/6110 etc phones, you need to hold DTR and RTS high so that the
adapter will be powered (these 2 lines run to a low dropout regulator which
powers a 3.3v RS232 converter.
(At least thats what the diag. on this 'build your own' cable page says :)

No idea if this is possible without writting your own custom comms program
though.

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for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
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Is there a strace equivalent for BSD?

Leon.

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im on ISDN i  hop from the box, and it is sitting on a T-1. the box
itself it sitti9ng in the same switch as the nameservers, ping times
from me

64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=253 time=83.699 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=5 ttl=253 time=41.975 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=6 ttl=253 time=40.959 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=7 ttl=253 time=53.949 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=8 ttl=253 time=40.730 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=9 ttl=253 time=41.069 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=10 ttl=253 time=74.423 ms


now also ping times from the problem system to the nameserver


4 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=8 ttl=254 time=1.426 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=9 ttl=254 time=5.490 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=10 ttl=254 time=5.011 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=11 ttl=254 time=3.037 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=12 ttl=254 time=3.874 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=13 ttl=254 time=5.642 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=14 ttl=254 time=6.101 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=15 ttl=254 time=3.200 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=16 ttl=254 time=4.661 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=17 ttl=254 time=2.188 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=18 ttl=254 time=6.329 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=19 ttl=254 time=3.740 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=20 ttl=254 time=6.878 ms
64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=21 ttl=254 time=4.422 ms

id say not a network problem, someone also mentions reverse DNS on the
ip and name, well they were not in dns, so i put them in dns but i still
have the same problem

Majid Almassari wrote:
> 
> It looks like a network problem to me. Due a ping and see how long does the
> ping take, also ping your DNS server it just might be taking a while till it
> reverse lookup the address. Try using FQDN if you have a nameserver
> specified. also do a  traceroute to your DNS server see how many hops till
> you reach it and the delay associated. Hopefully that helps.
> 


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Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> I have looked all over my system for telenetd.  I want to put an
> entry in rc.local to let my friend telent in.  But it seems my
> system cannot find telnetd anywhere.  What have i done wrong?

You put the entry in /etc/inetd.conf, not /etc/rc.local. There should be an
example telnet entry in there already.

Actually, that's wrong. You don't put an entry for telnetd anywhere, you
should use ssh instead. If your friend can't use a ssh client, tell him
he can't access your system.

someone else already told you the way to locate files: use locate(1).
however, that won't work if your system is not switched on all the time, in
which case an equivalent (but much slower) command would be

$ find / | grep telnetd

(that's not quite the same, since find(1) will search filesystems which
locate(1) doesn't, e.g. NFS, but it's close enough.)

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"Daniel J. O'Connor" wrote:
> 
> On 20-Nov-99 Richard Johnson wrote:
> >  Asking Qualcomm about it, I received a canned response which didn't
> >  really directly address my questions, but it seemed to be hinting that
> >  maybe I saw nothing because my phone hadn't been "enabled" for their
> >  type of data communication.  Apparently this is a service which costs
> >  somewhere around $4/month.  I'm guessing that if you haven't signed up
> >  for the service, then the modem part doesn't work?  Or maybe there's
> >  some special code which has to be sent to the phone to enable it?
> 
> For Nokia 5110/6110 etc phones, you need to hold DTR and RTS high so that the
> adapter will be powered (these 2 lines run to a low dropout regulator which
> powers a 3.3v RS232 converter.
> (At least thats what the diag. on this 'build your own' cable page says :)

Do you have the url handy for that page??

Darren Wiebe
dkwiebe@hagenhomes.com

> 
> No idea if this is possible without writting your own custom comms program
> though.
> 
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well I have tried the host file, but I can map drives on the Samba server
over the internet from machines that don't have the hosts file in it...how
would I map to the machine via IP - currently I just go to fine-computer
and put in the ip address...but in this case, it dosn't see the Samba
machine...but yet all of my other workstations do.  I have applied the
registry patch to allow for clear text passwords, but I don't even get a
logon prompt...it just refuses to connect...

any other ideas??

Thanks,

Bernie Courtney
Z100 New York Engineering
mailto:courtney@whtz.com

Have you tried mapping the network drive via ip address? Make sure this new
machine has the HOST file in the windows dir. Also, I remember something
about needing to change the registry to allow clear passwords. Hope this
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On 20 Nov, Leon Breedt wrote:
> Is there a strace equivalent for BSD?

Sure, it's called truss. man truss for details.

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On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Stuart Rogers wrote:

> Yes hello this might sound a little strange but here I go.
> What I'd like to know is what Boot floppy Images has the proper
> driver for an ATAPI CD-ROM. I'm trying to do an Install bootining
> from floppies then copying data over from the CD-ROM. The problem
> I have is the Power Pak 3.3 does not have Atapi CD drivers in the
> Kernel and I only have an Atapi CD no SCSI or I'd just do that. So
> what Version of the floppies have the proper driver and can I use
> a different version of Boot floppies to for version 3.3 or does it
> have to be version 3.3 floppies. Thank you for any help.  >
> 

The boot floppies that come with 3.3-RELEASE have support for ATAPI CD-ROM
drives.  If your drive is not detected, it likely that it is cabled
incorrectly.  This can be true, even if the drive works with Windows or
Linux.  If the drive is on the secondary IDE bus, there must be a secondary
master device on the chain.  If that doesn't solve the problem, try the
drive as the slave on the primary IDE bus.  Some combinations of drives and
controllers won't work with a secondary master CD-ROM.



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     Thank you for your response. The system only has one IDE channel not
two. The HD is Master and the CD is Slave. Why I thought there was no ATAPI
support was that you can't change any of the settings for it. Remmember I am
a newbie to FreeBSD so sorry if I sound stupid. I have tried two different
CD's a 40X ASUS and a Mitsumi 4*2*8 Burner model number CR-2801TE and
neither of them seem to work. So after that do you have any suggestions for
me. I would like to get this working as a dedicated system instead of trying
to install off of a MS-DOS partition.





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	I am trying to get sendmail 8.9.3 configured properly to allow me to
	send mail to the FreeBSD lists. 

	Here is my setup. I have a FreeBSD 2.2.8 machine with 2 NIC cards which
	I use to gateway a loacal network to the internet via a cable modem. I
	use a local ISP for my incoming mail, and use fetchmail to retrieve
	this mail. Mail is sent from a machine on the local networ, which is
	masqueraded via the FreeBSD machine. The mai mechain is a HPUX machine.
	I have a local DNS that uses the fake domain of "fas.com" The mail
	mahcine is called "grizzly" I also want to map local user ID's from the
	local network to the ISP account names. For example "stan" needs to
	become "stanb@awod.com" The ISP is awod.com.

	I built the following mc file:


divert(-1)
#
# Copyright (c) 1998 Sendmail, Inc.  All rights reserved.
# Copyright (c) 1983 Eric P. Allman.  All rights reserved.
# Copyright (c) 1988, 1993
#	The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
#
# By using this file, you agree to the terms and conditions set
# forth in the LICENSE file which can be found at the top level of
# the sendmail distribution.
#
#

#
#  This is a generic configuration file for HP-UX 9.x.
#  It has support for local and SMTP mail only.  If you want to
#  customize it, copy it to a name appropriate for your environment
#  and do the modifications there.
#

divert(0)dnl
VERSIONID(`@(#)generic-hpux9.mc	8.8 (Berkeley) 5/19/1998')
OSTYPE(hpux9)dnl
DOMAIN(generic)dnl
FEATURE(`always_add_domain')
FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain')
define(`MASQUERADE_AS', `awod.com')
define(`MASQUERADE_DOMAIN', `fas.com')
FEATURE(`genericstable', `dbm /usr/lib/mailertable')
define(`GENERICS_DOMAIN', `fas.com')
FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')
MAILER(local)dnl
MAILER(smtp)dnl

	But the resultant cf file does not look correct $DM is empty for
	instance.

	I thikn that what I have is pretty close, but suspect I have a syntax
	error somewherre.

	Could some kind soul give me some advic ehere?

	I have had this working ofr years, with an older version of sendmail,
	but it's headers aparantely no longe mail the FreeBSD mailhost happy
	:-)

	Thanks.

-- 
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On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:51:26 +0100, Konrad Heuer wrote:
>=20
> > Has anyone some idea whether the number of FreeBSD installations and th=
e
> > number of FreeBSD users still grows?
>=20
> Yes to both, and the rate of growth is increasing as well. Relax. :-)

Sorry - my reply comes late. But your news are good news!

Regards
Konrad

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On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Stuart Rogers wrote:

>      Thank you for your response. The system only has one IDE channel not
> two. The HD is Master and the CD is Slave. Why I thought there was no ATAPI
> support was that you can't change any of the settings for it. Remmember I am
> a newbie to FreeBSD so sorry if I sound stupid. I have tried two different
> CD's a 40X ASUS and a Mitsumi 4*2*8 Burner model number CR-2801TE and
> neither of them seem to work. So after that do you have any suggestions for
> me. I would like to get this working as a dedicated system instead of trying
> to install off of a MS-DOS partition.
> 

Hi Stuart,

it sounds like you are still having a lot of trouble due to the
ATAPI problem of 3.3 mentioned in the errata.txt.  You may find that the
easiest way to get FreeBSD installed at this point is to return your
powerpak to Amazon and get a corrected version of 3.3 powerpak from Walnut
Creek CD-ROM, www.cdrom.com

I just think it will be faster for you to do that instead of insisting
(rightly) that Amazon get the fixed 3.3 discs from WC and then sending
them to you.  My understanding is that since Walnut Creek publishes the
discs, Amazon is just a third party, and thus going through them will take
more time that just going directly to the source, WC.

Good Luck!

Woody



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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Artem Koutchine wrote:

> 
> So. I am writing a web based mail system (something like
> HotMail) in perl. I have to do in perl, since the company which
> ordered it put it in tech. reqs.
> 

Artem,

I think a project like this is going on, I forget the name it has.
Some open-source 'Hotmail-like' clone.  The name has been mentioned on
this liet in the past 4 or 5 months.  It is not in perl, though.  

I am not sure how wise it is for the client to demand it in perl.  
From what I have heard, perl solutions do not scale the same way say, c++
solutions do.  That would not be my fisrt choice for a robust system.  

2c

Woody



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Carsten Bertelsen wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > Try this one:
 > ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/
 > or
 > ftp://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/
 > or another one,

OK, I'll throw mine in, too.  ;-)

ftp://ftp7.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CD-ROM-images/

Regards
   Oliver

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Hello,
I finally managed to set up raid5 with vinum on two freeBSD machines that
have the folloowing system on it:
%uname -a
FreeBSD mail2.blah.com 3.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE #0: Thu
Sep 16
 23:40:35 GMT 1999     jkh@highwing.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
i38

Every couple of hours I the machines will spontaneously reboot, leaving me
with nothing in /var/log/messages. I am not positive this is because of
the vinum setup but I don't think it happened when the vinum setup was not
there. Is there anyway I can further debug this? Thanks..bye




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Steve Goodman wrote in list.freebsd-questions:
 > I own the domain name http://pointme.to  It is
 > designed to offer people an easy to remember URL to
 > access information on the web.  Recently I've had
 > people try to use pointme.to/freebsd , which I don't
 > have set up on the server.  I wanted to get your
 > permission to create http://pointme.to/freebsd and use
 > zero-based frames featuring your page.  Take a look at
 > http://pointme.to/music as an example.
 > 
 > The frames page would be set up with target=_parent so
 > once someone hits something on your page they are
 > moved off pointme.to/freebsd right to your domain.  

Why not simply making a HTTP redirect to www.freebsd.org?
Frames suck.  :-)

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   Oliver

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-On [19991120 08:00], mideyon (leoric@fastlane.net) wrote:
>Whenever I try to scan with nmap on any host other than localhost i get
>the error
>sendto in send_tcp_raw: sendto(3, packet, 40, 0, X.X.X.X, 16) => No
>buffer space available
>Sleeping 15 seconds then retrying
>sendto in send_tcp_raw: sendto(3, packet, 40, 0, X.X.X.X, 16) => No
>buffer space available

Got ipfw running?

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Hey,
Just a quick question. I want to put a firewall on my network and put some
other computers behind it (go figure). I would like the windoze workstations
inside the firewall to be able to see the network neighborhood of the
workgroup/domain. Is there a way to do this configuring ipfw or natd?
Thanks for any info on this. =)

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> however, [locate] won't work if your system is not switched on all the
> time

I should have said "might not work" here, sorry. Specifically, if the
weekly run never runs, the locate database won't be built unless you
build it manually.

/me makes mental note to be more careful next time...

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Bob Sadler wrote,
> I need to know where to get HOW TO files on how to set up two ethernet cards on an NFS server.  
> 
> For now what I have done is the following:
> 
> 1.	Change rc.conf file to reflect the new device:
> 
> ifconfig_de0="inet XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX netmask 255.255.255.255.0 media 10BaseT/UTP"
> ifconfig_de1="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.255.0 media 10BaseT/UTP"
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Is that really the netmask you are using? You have an extra byte in
there. It probably should be "255.255.255.0".
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On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Stuart Rogers wrote:

> neither of them seem to work. So after that do you have any suggestions for
> me. I would like to get this working as a dedicated system instead of trying
> to install off of a MS-DOS partition.
> 

A thought:

If the machine is on a LAN, you could run an ftpd on another machine on
the LAN (one that has a cd-rom drive), and install via ftp.

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Vi keeps on recovering of files on every startup of system.
I see that is sometimes very desired feature but in my case
it produce the same copies of same files I do not need any
more again again.Because what I have is rather desktop
then server I need relative ofen to shutdown and reboot system
so the the numbers of copies I get goes to 10 or more copies
of same file.Couls it somehow be handled?

Best Regards
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1) man 8 sshd2 for 'AllowHosts' said; "all hosts are allowed by default"
   and the commented example is clear. What is not said is, commenting
   AllowHosts causes the default condition. If I define 'localhost' and
   no other then all remote logins are rejected. I think?

2) Some hints to extra reference material would help. Many Q's to come
   on this, I bet. thanks

-d
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On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Jeffrey Bernt wrote:

> other computers behind it (go figure). I would like the windoze workstations
> inside the firewall to be able to see the network neighborhood of the
> workgroup/domain. Is there a way to do this configuring ipfw or natd?

Then you'll need to run SMB/NMB on your FreeBSD box.  Samba is the typical
solution, but there are others, such as "Sharity" (a commercial package
that offers it's product free for students, and I think others...).

-Brent




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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Annelise Anderson wrote:

> I've got one of these D-Link 660s and have used it without PAO
> on various laptops, from a 3.0-current circa late August 1998 to
> 3.2 and 4.0 -current from July 1999.  However, it doesn't work
> without an edited entry in pccard.conf.  I use:
> 
> # D-Link DE-660 NE2000 clone
> card "D-Link" "DE-660"
> 	config 0x20 "ed0" 10
> 	ether 0x81
> 	insert /etc/pccard_ether ed0 
> 	remove /sbin/ifconfig ed0 delete

Actually I have three of those cards, and got them to work on PAO with
just: (I.e. I do not need the 'ether 0x20).

card "D-Link" "DE-660"
        config  default "ed0" any 0x10
        insert  logger -s D-link DE-660 inserted
        insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device link0 
        remove  logger -s D-link DE-660 removed
        remove  /etc/pccard_ether_remove $device

card "D-Link" "DE-660L"
        config  default "ed0" any 0x10
        insert  logger -s D-link DE-660 inserted
        insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device
        remove  logger -s D-link DE-660 removed
        remove  /etc/pccard_ether_remove $device

card "D-Link" "DE-660CT"
        config  default "ed0" any 0x10
        insert  logger -s D-link DE-660 inserted
        insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device
        remove  logger -s D-link DE-660 removed
        remove  /etc/pccard_ether_remove $device

> I filed a pr on this quite a while ago.  

Dw.
 
> 	Annelise
> 
> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> > In message <Pine.OSF.3.96.991118104116.22248A-100000@mbs.valinet.com> Alan Corey writes:
> > : Well, maybe.  The entry in pccard.conf is there, but I neglected to
> > : mention that I'm also using PAO3-19991011.  I couldn't get the card to
> > : work without PAO, but I attributed that to my own inexperience.  After a
> > : week or so of trying without it I finally loaded PAO and things went much 
> > : more smoothly.  I thought since the entry was there it must have worked
> > : for someone, so it was just me doing something wrong.
> > 
> > I did add code from PAO to my local tree.  jmb did the same thing and
> > I merged his changed into mine and added another MAC address that was
> > acceptible to the linksys test.  I don't think that these changes have
> > been MFC'd.
> > 
> > Warner
> > 
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    I am about to give up on my zip drive and ever getting sound. I have
read every piece of advice and page that I can find but even after
recompiling my kernel and readig The Complete Guide to FreeBSD I still
cannot get them to work.No matter what device I use it tells me it is
not configured or for my parrell port zip I recieve a bad disk error.
    You guys have a great OS but I need at least my zip for accessing my
graphics and my poetry or downloading programs since I do not have a
personal internet connection I using my mom's on her machine. If any
body could help email at jhoblitz@erols.com.
    I had easier time configuring and compiling my kernel then I ever
had in linux but I may have to switch back to just access my personal
stuff. Thanks again for all your help and the best os I have ever used.
                    Chad



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What kind of zip drive are you using?  I am running a 100mb parallel zip
drive perfectly sell.  The sound I can't help you with because I have
never got into that but if you would let me know what kind of zip drive
you have I might be able to help.  Are you using zip disks that are
formatted for msdos or windows?  If you and you have your zip drive
hooked up to parallel port 1 you probably want to mount /dev/da0s4.  If
you try mounting the wrong partition on your zip disk it will not work.

Darren Wiebe
dkwiebe@hagnehomes.com

Joann Hoblitz wrote:
> 
>     I am about to give up on my zip drive and ever getting sound. I have
> read every piece of advice and page that I can find but even after
> recompiling my kernel and readig The Complete Guide to FreeBSD I still
> cannot get them to work.No matter what device I use it tells me it is
> not configured or for my parrell port zip I recieve a bad disk error.
>     You guys have a great OS but I need at least my zip for accessing my
> graphics and my poetry or downloading programs since I do not have a
> personal internet connection I using my mom's on her machine. If any
> body could help email at jhoblitz@erols.com.
>     I had easier time configuring and compiling my kernel then I ever
> had in linux but I may have to switch back to just access my personal
> stuff. Thanks again for all your help and the best os I have ever used.
>                     Chad
> 
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Jeffrey Bernt wrote,
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
> Hey,
> Just a quick question. I want to put a firewall on my network and put some
> other computers behind it (go figure). I would like the windoze workstations
> inside the firewall to be able to see the network neighborhood of the
> workgroup/domain. Is there a way to do this configuring ipfw or natd?
> Thanks for any info on this. =)

I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

You are going to make a firewall and want the machines behind the
firewall to use "Windows Networking" among themselves? There is
nothing special to do.

Or do you want machines on both sides of the firewall to be able to do
Windoze Networking across the firewall? That's more of a problem and
somewhat defeats the whole purpose of having a firewal in the first
place. If the firewall is an ipfw/natd box the problem becomes
_very_ difficult.

How is your network setup and how do you want it to work?
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com


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Ariel Burbaickij wrote,
> Vi keeps on recovering of files on every startup of system.
> I see that is sometimes very desired feature but in my case
> it produce the same copies of same files I do not need any
> more again again.Because what I have is rather desktop
> then server I need relative ofen to shutdown and reboot system
> so the the numbers of copies I get goes to 10 or more copies
> of same file.Couls it somehow be handled?

Remove the recovery files. They are located in /var/tmp/vi.recover.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com


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I now have a LOT of time searching for more recent than 1996 HOWTOs
on kernel  UpGrading from 2.2.8 to 3.3 starting with just the  kernel
and
needed utils.

Is there any help .. anywhere ... ?

-- Other issue --

Found with 2.2.8 I could not even rebuild the kernel without losing my
ed0
device ..

     not found ...

GENERIC kernel (unaltered) and compiled made my ethernet
completely GO AWAY ....   Current ...

FreeBSD  f.q.d.n.   2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 30
06:34:08 GMT 1998     jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
i386

Did config .. make .. save_old_kernel .. install ...

Thanks in either concern ..



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Telnetd is under /usr/libexec/telnetd. however, you should be launching it
from inetd.


On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

> I have looked all over my system for telenetd.  I want to put an
> entry in rc.local to let my friend telent in.  But it seems my
> system cannot find telnetd anywhere.  What have i done wrong?
> 
> -jm
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hello
i have a little problem with my cdrom drive in freebsd : i install
freebsd (3.3) on my second hard drive with my cdrom drive on the first
IDE controller. Then i put my cdrom drive on the second one and it is no
more detected. Do i have to do something special for me to see my cdrom
drive ?

Thanx a lot for the answer, because if i can't mount my cdrom, i can't
use freebsd.

Francis


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Dutch Collins wrote:
> 
> 1) man 8 sshd2 for 'AllowHosts' said; "all hosts are allowed by default"
>    and the commented example is clear. What is not said is, commenting
>    AllowHosts causes the default condition. If I define 'localhost' and
>    no other then all remote logins are rejected. I think?
> 
> 2) Some hints to extra reference material would help. Many Q's to come
>    on this, I bet. thanks
> 
> -d
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Interesting,..well I don't see any delays in the ICMP packets, and since
your DNS server is on the same switch on a T1, then that points to a Reverse
DNS lookup . Did you restart named after you added the host in DNS server? I
don't know the specifics but I would carefully look on how I would add such
an entry. Due nslookup and see how long till you get results..Also create an
entry for the host in /etc/host file in your local computer just to see if
that makes a difference.. good luck.

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> im on ISDN i  hop from the box, and it is sitting on a T-1. the box
> itself it sitti9ng in the same switch as the nameservers, ping times
> from me
>
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=253 time=83.699 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=5 ttl=253 time=41.975 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=6 ttl=253 time=40.959 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=7 ttl=253 time=53.949 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=8 ttl=253 time=40.730 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=9 ttl=253 time=41.069 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.2: icmp_seq=10 ttl=253 time=74.423 ms
>
>
> now also ping times from the problem system to the nameserver
>
>
> 4 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=8 ttl=254 time=1.426 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=9 ttl=254 time=5.490 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=10 ttl=254 time=5.011 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=11 ttl=254 time=3.037 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=12 ttl=254 time=3.874 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=13 ttl=254 time=5.642 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=14 ttl=254 time=6.101 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=15 ttl=254 time=3.200 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=16 ttl=254 time=4.661 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=17 ttl=254 time=2.188 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=18 ttl=254 time=6.329 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=19 ttl=254 time=3.740 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=20 ttl=254 time=6.878 ms
> 64 bytes from 199.72.47.254: icmp_seq=21 ttl=254 time=4.422 ms
>
> id say not a network problem, someone also mentions reverse DNS on the
> ip and name, well they were not in dns, so i put them in dns but i still
> have the same problem
>
> Majid Almassari wrote:
> >
> > It looks like a network problem to me. Due a ping and see how long does
the
> > ping take, also ping your DNS server it just might be taking a while
till it
> > reverse lookup the address. Try using FQDN if you have a nameserver
> > specified. also do a  traceroute to your DNS server see how many hops
till
> > you reach it and the delay associated. Hopefully that helps.
> >
>
>
> --
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ktrace(1) and kdump(1).  You'll need kdump to look at the binary file
that ktrace produces.

> Is there a strace equivalent for BSD?
> 
> Leon.
> 
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Bouh wrote,
> hello
> i have a little problem with my cdrom drive in freebsd : i install
> freebsd (3.3) on my second hard drive with my cdrom drive on the first
> IDE controller. Then i put my cdrom drive on the second one and it is no
> more detected. Do i have to do something special for me to see my cdrom
> drive ?
> 
> Thanx a lot for the answer, because if i can't mount my cdrom, i can't
> use freebsd.

I am having a little trouble with what you are saying. You are
installing FreeBSD with your devices arranged on the IDE controllers
one way, then movingthings around after you are done, right? Now,
during your "install configuration" where are the various devices (on
which controller)? And which device is master and which slave? When
you switch to "operational configuration" where are the devices? And
which is master and which is slave?
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Everett Batey wrote,
> 
> I now have a LOT of time searching for more recent than 1996 HOWTOs
> on kernel  UpGrading from 2.2.8 to 3.3 starting with just the  kernel
> and
> needed utils.
> 
> Is there any help .. anywhere ... ?

Yes. How about,

  http://freebsd.simplenet.com/make-upgrade.html

> -- Other issue --
> 
> Found with 2.2.8 I could not even rebuild the kernel without losing my
> ed0
> device ..
> 
>      not found ...
> 
> GENERIC kernel (unaltered) and compiled made my ethernet
> completely GO AWAY ....   Current ...
> 
> FreeBSD  f.q.d.n.   2.2.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 30
> 06:34:08 GMT 1998     jkh@time.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
> i386
> 
> Did config .. make .. save_old_kernel .. install ...
> 
> Thanks in either concern ..

Lots of ellipses ... understanding hard ...

You recompiled the 2.2.8 GENERIC kernel and you think the ed0 device
went away? Is that what you are saying?
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Solution to your question.

-purchase Greg Lehley's "The Complete Freebsd" from www.cdrom.com



>From: Mata Cervantes Hector Jose <ing02373@ing.ens.uabc.mx>
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>Subject: need information
>Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:58:11 -0800
>
>hi. I need all information you can give about managing processes in freeBSD
>how the kernel works with the memmory and all that technical stuff
>here in my school we are working on your OS, and even when we have
>read all about instalation and customization we have no information about
>that i've jut asked
>
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To: Bouh <francois.baudens@icam.fr>
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Bouh wrote:

> i have a little problem with my cdrom drive in freebsd : i install
> freebsd (3.3) on my second hard drive with my cdrom drive on the first
> IDE controller. Then i put my cdrom drive on the second one and it is no
> more detected. Do i have to do something special for me to see my cdrom
> drive ?
> 
> Thanx a lot for the answer, because if i can't mount my cdrom, i can't
> use freebsd.

More information is probably needed. When the CD-ROM is on the secondary
IDE, what else is on the secondary IDE? Which of master/slave is
each device in your system set to? Which controller is each of your
hard disks on, and what are their master/slave settings? If the
CD-ROM is the only device on the secondary IDE, make sure it's set to
"master", I think it won't work if the only device there is set to
"slave". (Apparently it works with Windows so many PCs ship in this
broken configuration though.)

It may also be that you're running a kernel without wdc1, but since you
seem to be new to FreeBSD I'm guessing your still running the generic
kernel so this won't be the problem.

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	(I know not, my liege!)

	So, following all the lovely instructions on the freebsd web
site, i've successfully built a kernel that recognizes the 8 year old
piece of junk SoundBlaster I just dumped in my FreeBSD box.  (It
couldn't find a MIDI interface at 0x388, but I don't have a manual, so
I'll just leave it :-)).

	Now, the question is:  How do I make it work under the various
environments?  I tried firing up a .wav player under KDE, but it
couldn't find it either.  It was looking for /dev/mixer.

	Do I have to create a new device?  is there some sinister step I
missed?

	Thanks.

	marc



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Sounds to me like you copied using the superuser account and didn't
preserve the ownerships on the mail files.

man cp   

..for details on copying ownerships and permissions with cp -p.

Virtually yours,
- Ryan

"Arturo Chen T." wrote:
> 
>         Hi Im having right now this problem
> 
>         I had my users mail files on
>         /var/mail

<SNIP>

>         cant open temporary file, do you own it?
> 
>         Can someone help me with this?
> Arturo Chen T.
> Director de Operaciones Técnicas
> World Quest Networks Panamá
> (507)210-1602

---------

Sounds to me like you copied using the superuser account and didn't
preserve the ownerships on the individual mail files.

man cp   

..for details on copying ownerships and permissions with cp -p.

To verify, try ls -laf.  Each mail file should be owned by the user
named in the filename (NOT root :-), and have permissions set to 600.
(Owner read/write).

Virtually yours,
- Ryan

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On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Marc Wandschneider wrote:

> 	Now, the question is:  How do I make it work under the various
> environments?  I tried firing up a .wav player under KDE, but it
> couldn't find it either.  It was looking for /dev/mixer.
> 
> 	Do I have to create a new device?  is there some sinister step I
> missed?

Without knowing what version of FreeBSD you are using, it's hard to say.
If the card is being seen at boot -- look in /var/run/dmesg.boot -- then it
sounds like you need to make the sound devices.  Try 

cd /dev
./MAKEDEV snd1 

as root.

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Greetings,

Recently I did a CPU upgrade on my box.. and everything seems ok, except I
get these messages at boot. I CVSUP -stable nightly.

wd0s4: cannot find bad sector table (bad sector table corrupted)
wd3s1: cannot find bad sector table (bad sector table corrupted)
wd1s4: cannot find bad sector table (bad sector table corrupted)
wd3s1: cannot find bad sector table (bad sector table corrupted)
wd3: cannot find bad sector table (bad sector table corrupted)
wd3s1: cannot find bad sector table (bad sector table corrupted)
IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding
disabled, logging disabled
wd3: cannot find bad sector table (bad sector table corrupted)
wd3s1: cannot find bad sector table (bad sector table corrupted)

I tried running bad144 -s on some of the afflicted drives, did not seem to
affect the error messages.

The only strange thing in my kernel config is:

options                SOFTUPDATES

And I did enable all the junk for that...

Any assistance would be appreciated. The system seems to run fine other
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Bouh wrote,
> hello
> this is my configuration :
> 
> primary master : 6.4 GB hdd with linux, win 98 and win NT
> primary slave : 13.5 GB hdd with freebsd and data
> secondary master : cdrom drive
> secondary slave : none

OK, but IIRC, you might get better performace off of those two drives
if they are on different controllers.

> i had to change my configuration for the install because when i was booting
> on the cdrom with these settings, the install program said me that it
> couldn't detect any cdrom drive. So i change to
> p master : cdrom
> p slave: 13.5 Gb hdd
> s master : none
> s slave : none

Hmmm... Shoulda seen it in the other configuration this is all one
problem. 

> and it worked
> but now i need the 6.4 Gb hdd as the primary master to boot with lilo and
> acces to linux, win98 and NT, and freebsd of course. So first i put cdrom on
> secondary slave - it didn't work 

Which is fine. A slave with no master violates the protocol even if
some other OSes let it by.

> - and then as secondary master but it still
> don't work.
> 
> Thanx a lot ...could you help me ?

Does your secondary IDE controller get detected during boot? Is there
a line like,

wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa

During boot and in the dmesg output?


> "Crist J. Clark" wrote:
> 
> > Bouh wrote,
> > > hello
> > > i have a little problem with my cdrom drive in freebsd : i install
> > > freebsd (3.3) on my second hard drive with my cdrom drive on the first
> > > IDE controller. Then i put my cdrom drive on the second one and it is no
> > > more detected. Do i have to do something special for me to see my cdrom
> > > drive ?
> > >
> > > Thanx a lot for the answer, because if i can't mount my cdrom, i can't
> > > use freebsd.
> >
> > I am having a little trouble with what you are saying. You are
> > installing FreeBSD with your devices arranged on the IDE controllers
> > one way, then movingthings around after you are done, right? Now,
> > during your "install configuration" where are the various devices (on
> > which controller)? And which device is master and which slave? When
> > you switch to "operational configuration" where are the devices? And
> > which is master and which is slave?
> > --
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> 


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Hi all;

As many of us here are programmers, and do so in FreeBSD, I reasoned
that this would be great place to find out what console text editors
people use.  Before this thread even gets going, though, let's remember
not to start a flamewar, and move relevant parts to -chat :-)

I currently use lpe (I downloaded/compiled, but there's a slightly dated
version available in ports, last time I checked).  I do a great deal of
development in Perl and Java, with copious amounts of C(++) and HTML
thrown in.  lpe handles the syntax highlighting for all of these (and
the colours aren't that bad, either :-)  The only things I find (more
than slightly) annoying about lpe is its lack of auto-indent, and lack
of configuration options (most, if not all persistent configuration
options must be compiled in).  Not-so-slightly annoying is its lack of
automatic indents (i.e. tab width indent after a curly { brace). 
Admittedly, lpe isn't built for power, but it turns out to be a good
all-around editor.

If I had a large programming project sprawled over many source files,
admittedly, I'd move over to something more like emacs... But, for the
day to day edits and smaller projects, lpe is about the best I've found,
and walks with a very small footprint.

Feel free to 'disagree' with me;  I'd like to see what others are using.

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Hello,

I recently have installed FreeBSD 3.2 on my 33 mhz 486 computer, and it 
crashed!  I cannot boot into dos, it only gives me this prompt:

Invailid Partition
No /boot/loader

>>FreeBSD/i286 BOOT
Default: 0:wd(0,a)/kernel
Boot:

So I inserted my kernel disk an my msr root disk and went to the 
installation screen, and I try to install a minimum program, but it gives me 
this:

No /usr filesystem found
No /var filesystem found

Then it kicks me out of the program.
I suspect it is beasue my hard drive is only 162 megabytes, and I WILL NOT 
upgrade to a new one, OK?

Please tell me how to uninstall FreeBSD.  I dont want it on my computer 
anymore.  However I will try to install it later on another computer.

Thank you,

Ian Hallenius

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	get a DOS boot flopppy with FDISK.EXE on it.  Boot it.

	1. fdisk /mbr
	2. fdisk and repartition your computer as you see fit
	3. install whatever OS you see fit.

	marc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Hallenius [mailto:oreo154@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Sat, November 20, 1999 6:19 PM
> To: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: PLEASE HELP ME!
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I recently have installed FreeBSD 3.2 on my 33 mhz 486 
> computer, and it 
> crashed!  I cannot boot into dos, it only gives me this prompt:
> 
> Invailid Partition
> No /boot/loader
> 
> >>FreeBSD/i286 BOOT
> Default: 0:wd(0,a)/kernel
> Boot:
> 
> So I inserted my kernel disk an my msr root disk and went to the 
> installation screen, and I try to install a minimum program, 
> but it gives me 
> this:
> 
> No /usr filesystem found
> No /var filesystem found
> 
> Then it kicks me out of the program.
> I suspect it is beasue my hard drive is only 162 megabytes, 
> and I WILL NOT 
> upgrade to a new one, OK?
> 
> Please tell me how to uninstall FreeBSD.  I dont want it on 
> my computer 
> anymore.  However I will try to install it later on another computer.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Ian Hallenius
> 
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On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Bouh wrote:

> hello
> i have a little problem with my cdrom drive in freebsd : i install
> freebsd (3.3) on my second hard drive with my cdrom drive on the first
> IDE controller. Then i put my cdrom drive on the second one and it is no
> more detected. Do i have to do something special for me to see my cdrom
> drive ?
> 
> Thanx a lot for the answer, because if i can't mount my cdrom, i can't
> use freebsd.

please fill this out:

working configuration:

IDE chain 0:
device 1: __________
device 2: __________

IDE chain 1:
device 1: __________
device 2: __________

non-working configuration:

IDE chain 0:
device 1: __________
device 2: __________

IDE chain 1:
device 1: __________
device 2: __________

and:

I have changed _____________ between the first and second configuration.

thanks,
-Alfred



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On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Ryan Thompson [FreeBSD] wrote:

> Hi all;
> 
> As many of us here are programmers, and do so in FreeBSD, I reasoned
> that this would be great place to find out what console text editors
> people use.  Before this thread even gets going, though, let's remember
> not to start a flamewar, and move relevant parts to -chat :-)

I like gvim, it's _very_ vi like, has syntax highlighting, and support
for auto-indent and tags.

I would suggest giving it a whirl, as a bonus it's pretty responsive
when run over a ssh-forwarded X connection.

-Alfred



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I found out that the problem is caused by a misconfigured loopback adapter
"lo0".  When sysinstall configures "/etc/rc.conf" it defines the network
adapters as:

network_interfaces="xl0 auto"


After I figured out the problem and submitted a bug report and fix it was
pointed out by a Gentileman that this bug was published in:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.3R/errata.html

Although only mentioned in errata-3.3 this problem persists across 3.2 and
3.3 and should be added to the applicable documents.

Errata suggests substituting "auto" with "lo0" in "/etc/rc.conf" but I have
found that unless you are aliasing network adapters you can leave out any
such references. "auto" in "/etc/defaults/rc.conf" works just fine.

At 10:14 PM 11/20/99 +0100, you wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Nathaniel Schein wrote:
>
>> I just made world on FreeBSD 3.3 enabled NFS Server and rebooted. The error
>> is:
>> 
>> Doing additional network setup: named portmap
>> Starting final Network Daemons: mountd nfsd rpc.statd nfsd
>> :[133]: can't register with udp portmap
>> cannot register service: RPC: Timed out
>> rpc.statd: unable to register (SM_PROG, SM_VERS, udp)
>> 
>> But I can mount remote file systems and filesystems are exported.
>> 
>
>I have the same problem on one of two boxes that run 3.3 RELEASE, but 
>not on the other, even though their config is the same. You
>didn't get an answer, did you? 
>The only reason I can think of for my one box not wanting to run
>statd is that it is a 386DX25. But that seems nonsense.
>
>Marc Schneiders
>
>marc@venster.nl
>marc@oldserver.demon.nl
>
>propro         	10:10pm  up   9 days,   9:56,  load average: 2.01 2.06 2.03
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might wanna checkout http://www.horde.org they have a package 
writen using php3 and and c....

Quoting Artem Koutchine (matrix@gerpa.ru)
On Subject: Web based main system in perl?
Date: Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 10:16:23PM +0300

> I know this is not really FBSD related, but who can one
> ask in this world but kind and knowledgable FBSD users:)
> 
> So. I am writing a web based mail system (something like
> HotMail) in perl. I have to do in perl, since the company which
> ordered it put it in tech. reqs.
> 
> The problem is that when i use MIME and Mail (INternet, FOlder)
> packages one request for mail processing grows as large as
> 10M in memory for 700K mail. This is unacceptable. Is there any
> other way or packages, libs for processing MIME mail w/o
> wasting so much memory and which do not take 3 seconds to compile
> to P-code on startup? May be somone already done somthing like
> this in perl and can share experience. My reqs say that one host should
> serve up to 100000 users (not simulatiusly of course). The hosts is
> a dual Pentium III - 450/SCSI/512MB RAM.
> 
> Besides that, are there any C libraries for parsing MIME and access
> mail boxes of different types (MBOX, MAILDIR, MH,...)
> 
> Artem
> 
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I'm posting this again since only a part of this question made it through
last time.  I have a Compaq Presario laptop, a PII 266MHz, 64M RAM, running
Win98/3.3-Release.  It has an internal winmodem attached to COM2 and a
pccard faxmodem attached to COM3. During boot, FreeBSD always reports sio0
as found, but it reports all other sio's as "not found", and the IRQ's for
these ports as "not in the bitmap...", however, Windows reports the IRQs for
these other ports as not being in conflict with anything and are the
"normal" IRQs for these ports.  About half of the time, FreeBSD goes on to
reporting on the hard drive and the cdrom and so forth, and then, when the
boot process is practically finished, the line "sio2 16550A" appears,
usually just before (or sometimes even after) the login prompt appears.  The
other half of the time, FreeBSD doesn't find any other sio's at all.

This problem is completely baffling to me.  Why would FreeBSD report
initially that sio2 is not found, and then change its mind later on in the
boot?  Why would it be able to detect this port at all only sometimes? My
computer seems like it should be a fairly plain-vanilla construction rather
than some weird off-the-wall mix of odd peripherals that was put together in
someone's garage... has anyone encountered this problem before?

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On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:

Hi,

A lot of of the time with PCCARD modems and winmodems, they are recognised 
by the software as comports rather than being physical com ports (i,e ones
built on the motherboard or through and external card)

It maybe that somehow FreeBSD is detecting the Winmodem (but that does not
mean that it will work with FreeBSD).

Have you tried booting with a PCCARD enabled kernel to see what that comes
back with in relation to your PCCARD modem?

As with a lot of things these days, just becuase it works with windoze doesn't
count for much in real word (especially those abominations called winmodems)

 Marc

> This problem is completely baffling to me.  Why would FreeBSD report
> initially that sio2 is not found, and then change its mind later on in the
> boot?  Why would it be able to detect this port at all only sometimes? My
> computer seems like it should be a fairly plain-vanilla construction rather
> than some weird off-the-wall mix of odd peripherals that was put together in
> someone's garage... has anyone encountered this problem before?
> 
> Chris Dahler
> 
> 
> 
> 
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In message <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911191632480.93473-100000@andrsn.stanford.edu> Annelise Anderson writes:
: card "D-Link" "DE-660"
...
: 	ether 0x81

This should be unnecessary now that the dlink code to grab the
ethernet address from the hardware itself (rather than the CIS) is now
working...  At least on -current...

Warner


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Running FreeBSD 3.3-Stable, SMP. When I run StarOffice, it runs ok, but I get
these messages:

Nov 20 20:37:39 freebsd /kernel: shared address space fork attempted: pid: 350
Nov 20 20:37:39 freebsd /kernel: shared address space fork attempted: pid: 350
Nov 20 20:37:46 freebsd last message repeated 4 times
Nov 20 20:37:46 freebsd last message repeated 4 times

in my /var/log/messages....anything that I can do to stop this?

FYI, I run the StarOffice 5 on my laptop also with 3.3-Stable and don't get
these messages.

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> A lot of of the time with PCCARD modems and winmodems, they are recognised 
> by the software as comports rather than being physical com ports (i,e ones
> built on the motherboard or through and external card)
> Have you tried booting with a PCCARD enabled kernel to see what that comes
> back with in relation to your PCCARD modem?

Yes, I have compiled my kernel with pccard support.  Your comment about
software-recognized com ports (rather than physical ports) makes sense given
the problems I am having. When FreeBSD is unable to detect anything other than
sio0 (which is actually the physical port on the back of the computer), pccardd
cannot detect the card modem (which is not a winmodem).  When FreeBSD does
detect sio2, pccardd correctly detects the card, but then it says it cannot allocate
resources for the card - a whole other problem I was going to tackle next. 
What can I do to resolve this serial port problem, or is this another instance
of a computer being designed for windows and nothing else?

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Ryan Thompson [FreeBSD] wrote:
> Hi all;
>
> As many of us here are programmers, and do so in FreeBSD, I reasoned
> that this would be great place to find out what console text editors
> people use.  Before this thread even gets going, though, let's remember
> not to start a flamewar, and move relevant parts to -chat :-)
>
The Editor is the main reason I still use an old NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP system as  
my main workstation. Editor.app is a simple text editor, but it does 'on the  
fly' folding of text based on indentation, no special characters etc.  
required. I am utterly hooked to that feature, and none of the other  
so-called 'folding editors' I have seen so far come even close to the  
simplicity and ease of use.

If someone out there knows of a folding editor that is based on indents,  
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Thanks

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Attempting to build my first kernel on 3.3-RELEASE
I got it wrong ... No problem, I'll just reboot and 
load the old kernel right?  Hmmm....

Well, I can't find a place to enter the name of the old kernel

I get the announcement that the kernel will be loaded 
in 9 seconds, and that I should hit Enter or any other key...

At the prompt disks1a1:> 
all my attempts to invoke another kernel image fail.
I have tried :        (paraphrased)

disks1a1:> boot kernel.old   
can't boot "boot"
disks1a1:> kernel.old
not found
disks1a1:> /kernel.old
cannot load  --  kerenl module already loaded

--------
Arrgh.  So I have loaded the live-fs CD and overwritten the 
currently active kernel with the previous issue. The system 
is back in service.

But...!  Could someone explain to me how I could have used 
the commandline at boot time to load a previous image?  It 
would be -so- much nicer to manage this situation.

(Now to tweak that kernel config ...)

    Erik Stainsby
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On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Erik Stainsby wrote:

> disks1a1:> /kernel.old
> cannot load  --  kerenl module already loaded
> 

Do, "unload all", then retry.

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If I CVSup'd my ports tree, and there are new versions of software I have
installed, what is the best way to upgrade?  Will "make install" just
overwrite the old version?  

"make deinstall" won't work, because the versions are different.

Thanks.

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On 20 Nov, Erik Stainsby wrote:
> But...!  Could someone explain to me how I could have used 
> the commandline at boot time to load a previous image?  It 
> would be -so- much nicer to manage this situation.

do this:
unload
load kernel.old
boot

If you type help at the boot prompt it will tell you this.

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