From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Mar 5 9: 2:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from gh0st.tps.sk (gh0st.tps.sk [195.168.1.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1EE37BA9A for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 09:02:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tps@ncc.nextra.sk) Received: from tps (dial103.mt.nextra.sk [195.168.3.103]) by gh0st.tps.sk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA95333 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:03:28 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: From: "Tomas TPS Ulej" To: Subject: gallery of installed systems Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:02:11 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20000304235010.B10778@sharmas.dhs.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Who is responsible for "registration" system? Maybe is time for complete rebuild... ;) I have some ideas... so if noone is responsible I like idea of catch hold of coordination of this project. Regards -- Tomas TPS Ulej NEXTRA SK, Network Coordination Centre more? http://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/whois?tu36-ripe Misdirection? Never give up, hold up your head and go! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Mar 5 10:47:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4E137BAA7 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 10:47:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom@bird.cris.net) Received: from bird.cris.net (phantom@bird.cris.net [212.110.128.67]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA85839; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:47:05 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by bird.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA47529; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:47:09 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:47:09 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200003051847.UAA47529@bird.cris.net> From: Alexey Zelkin To: Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: gallery of installed systems X-Newsgroups: lucky.freebsd.advocacy In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.2-RELEASE (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, In article you wrote: > Who is responsible for "registration" system? Maybe is time for complete > rebuild... ;) > I have some ideas... so if noone is responsible I like idea of catch hold of > coordination of this project. You mean FreeBSD Counter page or FreeBSD Gallery page ? :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 0:57:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD0837BD6F for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 00:57:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA47608; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:14:47 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:14:46 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Tomas TPS Ulej Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gallery of installed systems Message-ID: <20000305201446.A47400@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000304235010.B10778@sharmas.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Tomas TPS Ulej on Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 06:02:11PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 06:02:11PM +0100, Tomas TPS Ulej wrote: > Who is responsible for "registration" system? Maybe is time for complete > rebuild... ;) > > I have some ideas... so if noone is responsible I like idea of catch hold of > coordination of this project. If you mean the FreeBSD Gallery on the website, no one's really responsible for it, committers add submissions as and when. If you've got suggestions, plans, or (better) HTML and code, please speak up, we're all ears. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 10:45:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx4.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu [128.147.18.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A61E37B6D7 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:45:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from personrp@ccbh.com) Received: by 1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:45:05 -0500 Message-ID: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8A@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu> From: "Person, Roderick" To: "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:45:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, I need you help I work for a small enterprise client/server company. I'm looking for a client that will allow me to connect to a MS Sql server from a FreeBSD front end. Any one know of anything. I have found clients to connect to other type such as Oracle and Sysbase. Right now we have one FreeBSD server that I forced in here and use for testing but there is consideration for getting some Linux servers and Workstations, but I'm trying to sway the vote to FreeBSD any ideas or am I going to have to write something. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 11: 7:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34AE37C0A7 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:07:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29603; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:38:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:38:29 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! Message-ID: <20000306113829.W14279@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8A@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8A@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu>; from personrp@ccbh.com on Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 01:45:15PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Person, Roderick [000306 11:17] wrote: > Hi guys, > > I need you help I work for a small enterprise client/server company. I'm > looking for a client that will allow me to connect to a MS Sql server from a > FreeBSD front end. Any one know of anything. I have found clients to connect > to other type such as Oracle and Sysbase. Right now we have one FreeBSD > server that I forced in here and use for testing but there is consideration > for getting some Linux servers and Workstations, but I'm trying to sway the > vote to FreeBSD any ideas or am I going to have to write something. ~ % ls -l /usr/ports/databases/ | grep -i mysql drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Nov 16 20:28 dbf2mysql drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Nov 16 20:28 gmysql drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Feb 27 16:12 mysql-jdbc-mm drwxr-xr-x 3 bright wheel 512 Mar 4 23:25 mysql322-client drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Mar 4 23:25 mysql322-server drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Feb 18 08:00 p5-Mysql drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Jan 18 08:55 py-MySQL drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Jan 27 05:57 tcl-Mysql drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Feb 22 06:21 xmysql drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Feb 22 06:21 xmysqladmin there's even a few web form packages for accessing mysql from FreeBSD. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 11:11:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from vivien.franken.de (vivien.franken.de [194.94.249.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6095E37BFA8 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:11:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@vivien.franken.de) Received: (from alex@localhost) by vivien.franken.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA17993; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:11:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from alex) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:11:25 +0100 From: Alexander Goller To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! Message-ID: <20000306201125.H78613@vivien.franken.de> References: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8A@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8A@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu>; from personrp@ccbh.com on Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 01:45:15PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 01:45:15PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: > Hi guys, > > I need you help I work for a small enterprise client/server company. I'm > looking for a client that will allow me to connect to a MS Sql server from a > FreeBSD front end. Any one know of anything. I have found clients to connect > to other type such as Oracle and Sysbase. Right now we have one FreeBSD > server that I forced in here and use for testing but there is consideration > for getting some Linux servers and Workstations, but I'm trying to sway the > vote to FreeBSD any ideas or am I going to have to write something. There is a iODBC driver which does ODBC from OpenLink Software, that works on nearly all UNIX platforms, including FreeBSD. If you do Web Applications i know of Perl and DBD::ODBC and PHP3 to use that ODBC driver. From the perl side it seems that SQL Server 7 is known to work with the latest release. Take a look at http://www.openlinksw.com/. bye, alex -- Alexander 'decay' Goller e-mail: alex@vivien.franken.de decay on ircnet pgp - 2048/09314EBD pgp - 98 A8 0A DD 4B 8E 92 52 05 D0 CA 8E D7 87 B3 B3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 11:12:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx4.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu [128.147.18.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA7B37C237 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:12:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from personrp@ccbh.com) Received: by 1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:12:01 -0500 Message-ID: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8B@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu> From: "Person, Roderick" To: 'Alfred Perlstein' Cc: "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:12:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG not mysql. Microsoft's SQL Server > -----Original Message----- > From: Alfred Perlstein [SMTP:bright@wintelcom.net] > Sent: March 06, 2000 2:38 PM > To: Person, Roderick > Cc: 'advocacy@freebsd.org' > Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! > > * Person, Roderick [000306 11:17] wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I need you help I work for a small enterprise client/server company. I'm > > looking for a client that will allow me to connect to a MS Sql server > from a > > FreeBSD front end. Any one know of anything. I have found clients to > connect > > to other type such as Oracle and Sysbase. Right now we have one FreeBSD > > server that I forced in here and use for testing but there is > consideration > > for getting some Linux servers and Workstations, but I'm trying to sway > the > > vote to FreeBSD any ideas or am I going to have to write something. > > ~ % ls -l /usr/ports/databases/ | grep -i mysql > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Nov 16 20:28 dbf2mysql > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Nov 16 20:28 gmysql > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Feb 27 16:12 mysql-jdbc-mm > drwxr-xr-x 3 bright wheel 512 Mar 4 23:25 mysql322-client > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Mar 4 23:25 mysql322-server > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Feb 18 08:00 p5-Mysql > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Jan 18 08:55 py-MySQL > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Jan 27 05:57 tcl-Mysql > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Feb 22 06:21 xmysql > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Feb 22 06:21 xmysqladmin > > there's even a few web form packages for accessing mysql from FreeBSD. > > -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 11:19:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C98537BC7F for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:19:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29970; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:50:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:50:41 -0800 From: "'Alfred Perlstein'" To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! Message-ID: <20000306115041.Y14279@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8B@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8B@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu>; from personrp@ccbh.com on Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 02:12:09PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Person, Roderick [000306 11:43] wrote: > not mysql. Microsoft's SQL Server ugh, that's what I get for answering email just after waking up. Anyhow, what are the Linux packages you guys are able to use? -Alfred > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alfred Perlstein [SMTP:bright@wintelcom.net] > > Sent: March 06, 2000 2:38 PM > > To: Person, Roderick > > Cc: 'advocacy@freebsd.org' > > Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! > > > > * Person, Roderick [000306 11:17] wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > I need you help I work for a small enterprise client/server company. I'm > > > looking for a client that will allow me to connect to a MS Sql server > > from a > > > FreeBSD front end. Any one know of anything. I have found clients to > > connect > > > to other type such as Oracle and Sysbase. Right now we have one FreeBSD > > > server that I forced in here and use for testing but there is > > consideration > > > for getting some Linux servers and Workstations, but I'm trying to sway > > the > > > vote to FreeBSD any ideas or am I going to have to write something. > > > > ~ % ls -l /usr/ports/databases/ | grep -i mysql > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Nov 16 20:28 dbf2mysql > > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Nov 16 20:28 gmysql > > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Feb 27 16:12 mysql-jdbc-mm > > drwxr-xr-x 3 bright wheel 512 Mar 4 23:25 mysql322-client > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Mar 4 23:25 mysql322-server > > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Feb 18 08:00 p5-Mysql > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Jan 18 08:55 py-MySQL > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Jan 27 05:57 tcl-Mysql > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Feb 22 06:21 xmysql > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Feb 22 06:21 xmysqladmin > > > > there's even a few web form packages for accessing mysql from FreeBSD. > > > > -Alfred -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 11:27:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx4.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu [128.147.18.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC89B37BED3 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:27:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from personrp@ccbh.com) Received: by 1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:27:34 -0500 Message-ID: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8C@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu> From: "Person, Roderick" To: 'Alfred Perlstein' , "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:27:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG there leaning toward going with Corel Linux and on the debian site there are MS SQL OBDC drivers. So there is a lean in that direction, although all this is in the planning stage. I have a FreeBSD Server set up with InterBase that I use as a test server. I use a Delphi app to pump the data from a MS SQL to Interbase, but the powers that be don't want to risk that. We are a mental health insurance company and are main application used by 150+ care managers is a powerbuilder app that runs off of MS SQL server! So MS SQL server is going no where. > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Alfred Perlstein' [SMTP:bright@wintelcom.net] > Sent: March 06, 2000 2:51 PM > To: Person, Roderick > Cc: 'advocacy@freebsd.org' > Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! > > * Person, Roderick [000306 11:43] wrote: > > not mysql. Microsoft's SQL Server > > ugh, that's what I get for answering email just after waking up. > > Anyhow, what are the Linux packages you guys are able to use? > > -Alfred > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Alfred Perlstein [SMTP:bright@wintelcom.net] > > > Sent: March 06, 2000 2:38 PM > > > To: Person, Roderick > > > Cc: 'advocacy@freebsd.org' > > > Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! > > > > > > * Person, Roderick [000306 11:17] wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > I need you help I work for a small enterprise client/server company. > I'm > > > > looking for a client that will allow me to connect to a MS Sql > server > > > from a > > > > FreeBSD front end. Any one know of anything. I have found clients to > > > connect > > > > to other type such as Oracle and Sysbase. Right now we have one > FreeBSD > > > > server that I forced in here and use for testing but there is > > > consideration > > > > for getting some Linux servers and Workstations, but I'm trying to > sway > > > the > > > > vote to FreeBSD any ideas or am I going to have to write something. > > > > > > ~ % ls -l /usr/ports/databases/ | grep -i mysql > > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Nov 16 20:28 dbf2mysql > > > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Nov 16 20:28 gmysql > > > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Feb 27 16:12 mysql-jdbc-mm > > > drwxr-xr-x 3 bright wheel 512 Mar 4 23:25 mysql322-client > > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Mar 4 23:25 mysql322-server > > > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Feb 18 08:00 p5-Mysql > > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Jan 18 08:55 py-MySQL > > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Jan 27 05:57 tcl-Mysql > > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Feb 22 06:21 xmysql > > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Feb 22 06:21 xmysqladmin > > > > > > there's even a few web form packages for accessing mysql from FreeBSD. > > > > > > -Alfred > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 11:29:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx4.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu [128.147.18.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325C037BF40 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:29:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from personrp@ccbh.com) Received: by 1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:29:16 -0500 Message-ID: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8D@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu> From: "Person, Roderick" To: 'Alexander Goller' , "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:29:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks. I didn't find these drivers in my search. I'll try these out. > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Goller [SMTP:alex@vivien.franken.de] > Sent: March 06, 2000 2:11 PM > To: Person, Roderick > Cc: 'advocacy@freebsd.org' > Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! > > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 01:45:15PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I need you help I work for a small enterprise client/server company. I'm > > looking for a client that will allow me to connect to a MS Sql server > from a > > FreeBSD front end. Any one know of anything. I have found clients to > connect > > to other type such as Oracle and Sysbase. Right now we have one FreeBSD > > server that I forced in here and use for testing but there is > consideration > > for getting some Linux servers and Workstations, but I'm trying to sway > the > > vote to FreeBSD any ideas or am I going to have to write something. > > There is a iODBC driver which does ODBC from OpenLink Software, that > works on nearly all UNIX platforms, including FreeBSD. If you do Web > Applications i know of Perl and DBD::ODBC and PHP3 to use that ODBC > driver. From the perl side it seems that SQL Server 7 is known to > work with the latest release. > Take a look at http://www.openlinksw.com/. > > bye, alex > -- > Alexander 'decay' Goller e-mail: alex@vivien.franken.de > decay on ircnet > pgp - 2048/09314EBD > pgp - 98 A8 0A DD 4B 8E 92 52 05 D0 CA 8E D7 87 B3 B3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 12:12:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from arachna.worldonline.es (arachna.worldonline.es [212.7.33.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FF037BEA8 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesusr@worldonline.es) Received: from wol170.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct (pc170.worldonline.es [212.7.35.170]) by arachna.worldonline.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE15DFE9AA; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:57:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:24:49 +0100 (CET) From: Jesus Rodriguez X-Sender: jesusr@wol170.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! In-Reply-To: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8A@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Person, Roderick wrote: > I need you help I work for a small enterprise client/server company. I'm > looking for a client that will allow me to connect to a MS Sql server fro= m a > FreeBSD front end. Any one know of anything. I have found clients to conn= ect > to other type such as Oracle and Sysbase. Right now we have one FreeBSD > server that I forced in here and use for testing but there is considerati= on > for getting some Linux servers and Workstations, but I'm trying to sway t= he > vote to FreeBSD any ideas or am I going to have to write something. Hi, You can use PHP for access to Microsoft SQL Server. Saludos JesusR. ------------------------------------- Jes=FAs Rodr=EDguez Responsable de sistemas y explotaci=F3n World Online jesusr@worldonline.es http://www.worldonline.es Tel. + (34) 93-2257350 ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 15:53:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD96C37BFE2 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:53:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from owp.csus.edu (mothra.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.76.220]) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25296; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:53:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Message-ID: <38C444F3.3E002253@owp.csus.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:53:23 -0800 From: Joseph Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! References: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8A@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Person, Roderick" wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I need you help I work for a small enterprise client/server company. I'm > looking for a client that will allow me to connect to a MS Sql server from a > FreeBSD front end. Any one know of anything. I have found clients to connect You don't mention what kind of front end, so I'm going to assume some soft of web based use. It would appear that the apache13-php3 port now has support for this : http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/apache13-php3/scripts/configure.php looks like they are using the freetds drivers to achive this. > to other type such as Oracle and Sysbase. Right now we have one FreeBSD > server that I forced in here and use for testing but there is consideration > for getting some Linux servers and Workstations, but I'm trying to sway the > vote to FreeBSD any ideas or am I going to have to write something. -- Joseph Scott joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu Office Of Water Programs - CSU Sacramento To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 16: 9: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de [139.13.25.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C49137B9C1 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:09:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohoyer@fbwi.fh-wilhelmshaven.de) Received: from fettesau.stuwo.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (stuwopc5.stuwo.fh-wilhelmshaven.de [139.13.209.5]) by mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA05706 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 01:09:01 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <4.1.20000307010552.00c376b0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> X-Sender: ohoyer@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 01:08:54 +0100 To: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG From: Olaf Hoyer Subject: Offline-Browser for FBSD? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Just had some discussion with Windoze folks, and they told me that those Linux/UNIX/whatsoever stuff hasn't got some worthy offline-browsers like, say, Teleport, Anawave Websnake, or Webwhacker or so, that you simply enter an URL, and by next morning the whole Web-site is stored on your HDD with all links pointing to the local files on HDD... Any suggestions for these? Regards Olaf Hoyer -------- Olaf Hoyer www.nightfire.de mailto:Olaf.Hoyer@nightfire.de FreeBSD- Turning PC's into workstations ICQ:22838075 Liebe und Hass sind nicht blind, aber geblendet vom Feuer, dass sie selber mit sich tragen. (Nietzsche) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 16:19:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA7B37BB62 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:19:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (14-105.008.popsite.net [209.69.195.105] (may be forged)) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA38921; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by shadow.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 799611A1E; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:17:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:17:01 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Olaf Hoyer Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offline-Browser for FBSD? Message-ID: <20000306191701.D82650@shadow.blackdawn.com> References: <4.1.20000307010552.00c376b0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000307010552.00c376b0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de>; from ohoyer@fbwi.fh-wilhelmshaven.de on Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 01:08:54AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 01:08:54AM +0100, Olaf Hoyer wrote: > Just had some discussion with Windoze folks, and they told me that those > Linux/UNIX/whatsoever stuff hasn't got some worthy offline-browsers like, > say, Teleport, Anawave Websnake, or Webwhacker or so, that you simply enter > an URL, and by next morning the whole Web-site is stored on your HDD with > all links pointing to the local files on HDD... Although I shudder to say it.. see ports/ftp/wget. It's quite a powerful tool if you intend to mirror a website.. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 16:23:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605A137BCC9 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:23:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05995; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:23:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:23:20 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Olaf Hoyer Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offline-Browser for FBSD? Message-ID: <20000306162320.A2978@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: <4.1.20000307010552.00c376b0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000307010552.00c376b0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de>; from ohoyer@fbwi.fh-wilhelmshaven.de on Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 01:08:54AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 01:08:54AM +0100, Olaf Hoyer wrote: > Just had some discussion with Windoze folks, and they told me that those > Linux/UNIX/whatsoever stuff hasn't got some worthy offline-browsers like, > say, Teleport, Anawave Websnake, or Webwhacker or so, that you simply enter > an URL, and by next morning the whole Web-site is stored on your HDD with > all links pointing to the local files on HDD... I've had pretty good luck with w3mir (ports/www/w3mir). I've been able to mirror some pretty large sites with it. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 16:27:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.uunet.ca (mail5.uunet.ca [142.77.1.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7488137BB2B for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:27:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca ([216.95.146.6]) by mail5.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <231668-16197>; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:26:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:24:53 -0500 From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Will Andrews Cc: Olaf Hoyer , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offline-Browser for FBSD? In-Reply-To: <20000306191701.D82650@shadow.blackdawn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG wget is very nice and powerful, however it's incredibly slow - it takes me approximately 56 minutes to mirror the web site I'm mirroring, the site is only 4 megabytes and we're on a T1 - so it's not the network, my problem with it is that it downloads everything, instead of comparing and checking what has been updated, cvsup would be ideal, but not all sites are allowed to run a cvsup server, as is the case with this one. Matt -- Matt Heckaman [matt@arpa.mail.net|matt@relic.net] [Please do not send me] !Powered by FreeBSD/x86! [http://www.freebsd.org] [any SPAM (UCE) e-mail] On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Will Andrews wrote: : Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:17:01 -0500 : From: Will Andrews : To: Olaf Hoyer : Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG : Subject: Re: Offline-Browser for FBSD? : : On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 01:08:54AM +0100, Olaf Hoyer wrote: : > Just had some discussion with Windoze folks, and they told me that those : > Linux/UNIX/whatsoever stuff hasn't got some worthy offline-browsers like, : > say, Teleport, Anawave Websnake, or Webwhacker or so, that you simply enter : > an URL, and by next morning the whole Web-site is stored on your HDD with : > all links pointing to the local files on HDD... : : Although I shudder to say it.. see ports/ftp/wget. It's quite a powerful : tool if you intend to mirror a website.. : : -- : Will Andrews : GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- : ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ : G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 17:19:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8BB37BDE4 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:19:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA39159; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:18:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp.simianscience.com (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA02443; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:18:49 -0500 (EST) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: personrp@ccbh.com ("Person, Roderick") Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 01:17:36 GMT Message-ID: <38c4585a.1045962444@mail.sentex.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 6 Mar 2000 13:45:38 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.advocacy you wrote: >Hi guys, > >I need you help I work for a small enterprise client/server company. I'm >looking for a client that will allow me to connect to a MS Sql server from a As others have pointed out, PHP is a simple way via the FreeTDS lib, as well as Perl:Sybase. I have been using/programing with them for the past week and they work quite well with both 6.5 and 7.0. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 17:37:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C324537BE4C for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:37:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: from localhost (chrisc@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA86507; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:37:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:37:17 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Coleman To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'Alfred Perlstein'" , "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! In-Reply-To: <576A688A7DA7D011899B00805FEA1AFFCCEB8B@sych02.isdip.upmc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If this turns out well, this would make a great Daemon News article. Please take notes and make use of this opportunity. :-) Chris Coleman Daemon News http://www.daemonnews.org Bringing BSD together On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Person, Roderick wrote: > not mysql. Microsoft's SQL Server > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alfred Perlstein [SMTP:bright@wintelcom.net] > > Sent: March 06, 2000 2:38 PM > > To: Person, Roderick > > Cc: 'advocacy@freebsd.org' > > Subject: Re: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! > > > > * Person, Roderick [000306 11:17] wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > I need you help I work for a small enterprise client/server company. I'm > > > looking for a client that will allow me to connect to a MS Sql server > > from a > > > FreeBSD front end. Any one know of anything. I have found clients to > > connect > > > to other type such as Oracle and Sysbase. Right now we have one FreeBSD > > > server that I forced in here and use for testing but there is > > consideration > > > for getting some Linux servers and Workstations, but I'm trying to sway > > the > > > vote to FreeBSD any ideas or am I going to have to write something. > > > > ~ % ls -l /usr/ports/databases/ | grep -i mysql > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Nov 16 20:28 dbf2mysql > > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Nov 16 20:28 gmysql > > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Feb 27 16:12 mysql-jdbc-mm > > drwxr-xr-x 3 bright wheel 512 Mar 4 23:25 mysql322-client > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Mar 4 23:25 mysql322-server > > drwxr-xr-x 5 bright wheel 512 Feb 18 08:00 p5-Mysql > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Jan 18 08:55 py-MySQL > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Jan 27 05:57 tcl-Mysql > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Feb 22 06:21 xmysql > > drwxr-xr-x 6 bright wheel 512 Feb 22 06:21 xmysqladmin > > > > there's even a few web form packages for accessing mysql from FreeBSD. > > > > -Alfred > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 18:22:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from bbcon.com.au (firewall.bbcon.com.au [203.28.19.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CD437C0AF for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:22:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jsutton@bbcon.com.au) Received: from firewall.bbcon.com.au (stargate [10.0.0.1]) by bbcon.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA04519; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:22:27 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jsutton@bbcon.com.au) Received: from localhost (jsutton@localhost) by firewall.bbcon.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA11264; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:22:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jsutton@bbcon.com.au) X-Authentication-Warning: stargate.home: jsutton owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:22:26 +1100 (EST) From: Joel Sutton X-Sender: jsutton@stargate.home To: Chris Coleman Cc: "Person, Roderick" , "'Alfred Perlstein'" , "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: [ADV] RE: Help me turn the enterprise to FreeBSD! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Chris Coleman wrote: > If this turns out well, this would make a great Daemon News article. > Please take notes and make use of this opportunity. :-) Yes please!!! If we had an article somewhere which demonstrates that you can talk to your Messy SQL server (MS SQL) from your FreeBSD Web Server, it would be a great sales/advocacy tool. I'd love to be able to give someone 10 good reasons why they should use PHP+FreeBSD rather than ASP+NT. Cheers, Joel... --- Joel Sutton | Busy Bee Consulting Phone: 0409 426-563 | Melbourne, Australia Email: jsutton@bbcon.com.au | http://www.bbcon.com.au/ VicFUG President/Webmaster | http://www.vicfug.au.freebsd.org/ FreeBSDzine Editor | http://www.freebsdzine.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 18:58:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from foobar.franken.de (foobar.franken.de [194.94.249.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A1637BE99 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:57:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logix@foobar.franken.de) Received: (from logix@localhost) by foobar.franken.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id DAA26165; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 03:56:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <20000307035625.B24878@foobar.franken.de> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 03:56:25 +0100 From: Harold Gutch To: Matt Heckaman , Will Andrews Cc: Olaf Hoyer , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offline-Browser for FBSD? References: <20000306191701.D82650@shadow.blackdawn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Matt Heckaman on Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 07:24:53PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 07:24:53PM -0500, Matt Heckaman wrote: > wget is very nice and powerful, however it's incredibly slow - it takes me > approximately 56 minutes to mirror the web site I'm mirroring, the site is > only 4 megabytes and we're on a T1 - so it's not the network, my problem > with it is that it downloads everything, instead of comparing and checking > what has been updated, cvsup would be ideal, but not all sites are allowed > to run a cvsup server, as is the case with this one. Perhaps the flags -g, -nc and -N (perhaps -m which combines -r and -N) would help? It doesn't quite achieve CVSup-status, but it at least is better than nothing. But of course you already know that from "man wget". :) HTH, Harold -- Someone should do a study to find out how many human life spans have been lost waiting for NT to reboot. Ken Deboy on Dec 24 1999 in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 19:31:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DEC37BF58 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:31:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (postfix@17-196.008.popsite.net [209.69.13.196]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA41558; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by shadow.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4CA6D1A2B; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:30:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:30:29 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Harold Gutch Cc: Matt Heckaman , Will Andrews , Olaf Hoyer , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offline-Browser for FBSD? Message-ID: <20000306223029.A51627@shadow.blackdawn.com> References: <20000306191701.D82650@shadow.blackdawn.com> <20000307035625.B24878@foobar.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000307035625.B24878@foobar.franken.de>; from logix@foobar.franken.de on Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 03:56:25AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 03:56:25AM +0100, Harold Gutch wrote: > Perhaps the flags -g, -nc and -N (perhaps -m which combines -r and -N) > would help? It doesn't quite achieve CVSup-status, but it at > least is better than nothing. > But of course you already know that from "man wget". :) Since when has wget had a manpage? :-) ITYM "info wget". -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 20: 1:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail.citechco.net (mail.citechco.net [203.127.137.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30B437BC70 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:01:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mojahed@citechco.net) Received: from mars.cosmos.net (ls2-18-189.citechco.net [203.127.137.189]) by mail.citechco.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07882; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:03:53 +0600 Received: (from mojahed@localhost) by mars.cosmos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA48297; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:47:06 +0600 (BDT) (envelope-from mojahed) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:47:05 +0600 From: Mojahedul Hoque Abul Hasanat To: Olaf Hoyer Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offline-Browser for FBSD? Message-ID: <20000307094705.A8029@mars.cosmos.net> References: <4.1.20000307010552.00c376b0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000307010552.00c376b0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 01:08:54AM +0100, Olaf Hoyer wrote: > > ... > Linux/UNIX/whatsoever stuff hasn't got some worthy > offline-browsers like, say, Teleport, Anawave Websnake, or > Webwhacker or so, that you simply enter an URL, and by next > morning the whole Web-site is stored on your HDD with > ... Please check out wwwoffle. It's an offline proxy server. You go online, browse quickly (don't read the pages, just load them) then go offline. Now you can re-visit the sites in your leisure. If you click on a link that is not cached, wwwoffle will store the info in its "Outgoing" page. The next time you get online it will download those pages and cache them. Also, if you give it a URL it can download the whole site for you. Of course, it will not download a page/image more than once. Basically, it has all the features those M$ offline kiddy tools have plus the cache can be shared by everyone in your LAN (configurable of course!). -- Mojahed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 6 22:54:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from foobar.franken.de (foobar.franken.de [194.94.249.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A74C37BD97 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:54:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from logix@foobar.franken.de) Received: (from logix@localhost) by foobar.franken.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA26566; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:54:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <20000307075443.A26536@foobar.franken.de> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:54:43 +0100 From: Harold Gutch To: Will Andrews Cc: Matt Heckaman , Olaf Hoyer , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offline-Browser for FBSD? References: <20000306191701.D82650@shadow.blackdawn.com> <20000307035625.B24878@foobar.franken.de> <20000306223029.A51627@shadow.blackdawn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <20000306223029.A51627@shadow.blackdawn.com>; from Will Andrews on Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 10:30:29PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 10:30:29PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 03:56:25AM +0100, Harold Gutch wrote: > > Perhaps the flags -g, -nc and -N (perhaps -m which combines -r and -N) > > would help? It doesn't quite achieve CVSup-status, but it at > > least is better than nothing. > > But of course you already know that from "man wget". :) > > Since when has wget had a manpage? :-) > ITYM "info wget". Oh, indeed, the current version only has an infopage. The one I have installed (1.4.4) still has a manpage, that's why I in fact did mean "man wget" :). Harold -- Someone should do a study to find out how many human life spans have been lost waiting for NT to reboot. Ken Deboy on Dec 24 1999 in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Mar 7 1:52:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2C137BF28 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 01:52:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA78030; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 00:57:27 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 00:57:26 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Olaf Hoyer Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offline-Browser for FBSD? Message-ID: <20000307005726.A77679@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <4.1.20000307010552.00c376b0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000307010552.00c376b0@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de>; from Olaf Hoyer on Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 01:08:54AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 01:08:54AM +0100, Olaf Hoyer wrote: > Just had some discussion with Windoze folks, and they told me that those > Linux/UNIX/whatsoever stuff hasn't got some worthy offline-browsers like, > say, Teleport, Anawave Websnake, or Webwhacker or so, that you simply enter > an URL, and by next morning the whole Web-site is stored on your HDD with > all links pointing to the local files on HDD... These Windoze folks should learn how to do some research. See, that's what happens when your brain's fed a diet of pretty pictures all day. > Any suggestions for these? ports/ftp/pavuk will do this, as will several others already mentioned in this thread. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Mar 7 13:58:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8170A37C140 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:58:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr09.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25148; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:58:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr09.primenet.com(206.165.6.209) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAQUaGcX; Tue Mar 7 14:57:59 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA00367; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:58:15 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200003072158.OAA00367@usr09.primenet.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD mention in "The Register" To: wes@softweyr.com (Wes Peters) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:58:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert), advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <38B61229.D311624B@softweyr.com> from "Wes Peters" at Feb 24, 2000 10:24:57 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > FreeBSD was mentioned as the basis for the Mac OS X: > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/000224-000014.html > > > > near the bottom: > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > MacOS X's FreeBSD microkernel-based architecture makes it an ideal > > basis for a high-stable (if hi-fis and VCRs don't crash, neither can > > consumer electronics Net appliances) yet compact (store it in Flash > > RAM) appliance OS. Just add a cut-back Mac GUI and you're away. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Maybe they are calling FreeBSD a microkernel after seen the > > size of a Windows 2000 "minumal installation"? 8-). > > Did you daily.daemonnews.org this? No, sorry, I am in the middle of a release cycle, and am on the hook for approximately 16,000 words of technical writing. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Mar 7 14: 3: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.primenet.com (smtp05.primenet.com [206.165.6.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6312337C140 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:02:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr09.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp05.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26189; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:02:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr09.primenet.com(206.165.6.209) via SMTP by smtp05.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAP3a4aZ; Tue Mar 7 15:02:38 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA00661; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:02:37 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200003072202.PAA00661@usr09.primenet.com> Subject: Re: the talk about fbsd in linux and free cd's To: oogali@intranova.net (Omachonu Ogali) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:02:36 +0000 (GMT) Cc: lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM (Lanny Baron), advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Omachonu Ogali" at Feb 25, 2000 10:47:40 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Do you understand the definition of a non-profit organization? Uh, FreeBSD, Inc. is not incorporated as a non-profit, or I would be able to give it thousands of dollars, deduct them from my interest income tax burden, and IBM would match them dollar for dollar, doubling the amount of my gift. Just FYI. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Mar 7 14:30: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A35037BAFC for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr09.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18881; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:29:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr09.primenet.com(206.165.6.209) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAbxayRK; Tue Mar 7 15:29:09 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01684; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:29:38 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200003072229.PAA01684@usr09.primenet.com> Subject: Re: the talk about fbsd in linux and free cd's To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:29:37 +0000 (GMT) Cc: stuyman@confusion.net (Laurence Berland), oogali@intranova.net (Omachonu Ogali), lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM (Lanny Baron), freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <52680.951617305@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Feb 26, 2000 06:08:25 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > umm maybe I'm out on a limb here, but there is a FreeBSD Inc, which I > > thought to be the "project" as you put it. FreeBSD Inc isn't a not for > > profit, but the question is whether or not it's the project. > > FreeBSD, Inc. is not the project. It is a fund-raising entity FOR the > project and will have at least that aspect of its operations shut down > once the FreeBSD Foundation thingy gets created as a full 501(c)3 > charitable organization. That has not yet happened and I'm not going > to make any predictions as to when it will. FYI, to sweeten the pot: IBM matches all contributions to charitible organizations, and I don't donate (except through pariphenalia and CDROM sales) because I can'tdeduct it on my taxes. I think Matt Dillon might be looking for a tax writeoff, too... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Mar 7 16:29:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from ind.alcatel.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7DF37B543 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:29:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com (mailhub [198.206.181.70]) by ind.alcatel.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1 (ind.alcatel.com 3.0 [OUT])) with SMTP id QAA01348; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:29:03 -0800 (PST) X-Origination-Site: Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id QAA12470; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:29:02 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id RAA19099; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:28:57 -0700 Message-ID: <38C59ED3.8B0858A7@softweyr.com> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:29:07 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD mention in "The Register" References: <200003072158.OAA00367@usr09.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > FreeBSD was mentioned as the basis for the Mac OS X: > > > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/000224-000014.html > > > > > > near the bottom: > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > MacOS X's FreeBSD microkernel-based architecture makes it an ideal > > > basis for a high-stable (if hi-fis and VCRs don't crash, neither can > > > consumer electronics Net appliances) yet compact (store it in Flash > > > RAM) appliance OS. Just add a cut-back Mac GUI and you're away. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Maybe they are calling FreeBSD a microkernel after seen the > > > size of a Windows 2000 "minumal installation"? 8-). > > > > Did you daily.daemonnews.org this? > > No, sorry, I am in the middle of a release cycle, and am on the > hook for approximately 16,000 words of technical writing. It's OK, I did. Your latency seems to be running a bit high at the moment. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Mar 7 16:32:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from ind.alcatel.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E5B37BB37 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:32:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com (mailhub [198.206.181.70]) by ind.alcatel.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1 (ind.alcatel.com 3.0 [OUT])) with SMTP id QAA01426; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:31:00 -0800 (PST) X-Origination-Site: Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id QAA12684; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:30:59 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id RAA19115; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:30:42 -0700 Message-ID: <38C59F3B.CEDF95B5@softweyr.com> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:30:51 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert Cc: Omachonu Ogali , Lanny Baron , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the talk about fbsd in linux and free cd's References: <200003072202.PAA00661@usr09.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > Do you understand the definition of a non-profit organization? > > Uh, FreeBSD, Inc. is not incorporated as a non-profit, or I would > be able to give it thousands of dollars, deduct them from my > interest income tax burden, and IBM would match them dollar for > dollar, doubling the amount of my gift. It is a California non-profit corporation, but it is not a "charitable organization." -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Mar 7 16:58:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448FB37B519 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:58:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7C5ED1C4A; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:58:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:58:51 -0500 From: Bill Fumerola To: Terry Lambert Cc: Omachonu Ogali , Lanny Baron , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the talk about fbsd in linux and free cd's Message-ID: <20000307195851.Y25438@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <200003072202.PAA00661@usr09.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200003072202.PAA00661@usr09.primenet.com>; from tlambert@primenet.com on Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 10:02:36PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 10:02:36PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > Uh, FreeBSD, Inc. is not incorporated as a non-profit, or I would > be able to give it thousands of dollars, deduct them from my > interest income tax burden, and IBM would match them dollar for > dollar, doubling the amount of my gift. > > Just FYI. "Me too." less the IBM thing. :-> -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org Office: 800-252-2421 x128 / Cell: 248-761-7272 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Mar 8 10:13:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3054437B63D for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:13:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-024.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.24]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA82082 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:13:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA26608 for advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:13:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:13:51 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ApplixWare presence Message-ID: <20000308101351.A26586@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG People should head over to http://www.applixware.ORG/ and ask for a FreeBSD presence since there is now a shipping ApplixWare for FreeBSD. Same for www.applixware.COM, where I cannot find a single piece of information that the even offer a FreeBSD product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Mar 8 11:41: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22A837C265; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:40:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A87B1197; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:40:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:40:47 -0800 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ApplixWare presence Message-ID: <20000308114047.A32118@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson References: <20000308101351.A26586@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000308101351.A26586@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@NUXI.com on Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 10:13:51AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.4-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waxing Crescent (8% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane2-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 11:37AM up 1 day, 4:05, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, David O'Brien was heard blurting out: > People should head over to http://www.applixware.ORG/ and ask for a > FreeBSD presence since there is now a shipping ApplixWare for FreeBSD. > > Same for www.applixware.COM, where I cannot find a single piece of > information that the even offer a FreeBSD product. > http://www.applixware.ORG/ is the Opensource third-party add on site for applix. The correct url would be http://www.applix.com. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------- I'll never forget the first time I ran Windows, but I'm trying. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Mar 8 12:43:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA0437B737 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:43:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-024.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.24]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA83038; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:43:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA23658; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:43:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:43:33 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ApplixWare presence Message-ID: <20000308124333.A23638@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000308101351.A26586@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000308114047.A32118@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000308114047.A32118@lunatic.oneinsane.net>; from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net on Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 11:40:47AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 11:40:47AM -0800, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > http://www.applixware.ORG/ is the Opensource third-party add on site for > applix. The correct url would be http://www.applix.com. I realize that. So what does that have to do with writing an email to both sites asking for a FreeBSD presence? Do we not want presence on both? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Mar 8 16:34: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7163D37B871; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:33:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 96446197; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:33:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:33:40 -0800 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: David O'Brien Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ApplixWare presence Message-ID: <20000308163340.A35891@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson References: <20000308101351.A26586@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000308114047.A32118@lunatic.oneinsane.net> <20000308124333.A23638@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000308124333.A23638@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 12:43:33PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.4-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waxing Crescent (9% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane2-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 4:31PM up 1 day, 8:58, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, David O'Brien was heard blurting out: > On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 11:40:47AM -0800, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > > > http://www.applixware.ORG/ is the Opensource third-party add on site for > > applix. The correct url would be http://www.applix.com. > > I realize that. So what does that have to do with writing an email to > both sites asking for a FreeBSD presence? Do we not want presence on > both? > I did not mean to come off that way. I want 'the daemon' plastered all over all associated Applix websites. Back when I bought my copy of Applix for FreeBSD the www.applixware.com redirect was not working. When I checked today it flashed quickly and put be to it. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------- Intolerance is the last defense of the insecure. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Mar 9 5:22:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from bne005m.server-mail.com (bne005m.server-mail.com [202.139.234.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A43437B7C9 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 05:22:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wyldephyre2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16924 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2000 13:21:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO timberwolf) (203.147.164.224) by bne005m.server-mail.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2000 13:21:55 -0000 Message-ID: <004c01bf89cd$d72e4ce0$e0a493cb@timberwolf> From: "Haikal Saadh" To: Subject: Devil on your PC! Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 23:45:32 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is, naturally, regarding the weekly world news (or whatever..it was on daily yesterday..) story about possessed PCs...This article is begging to be made fun of...Fancy that..my PC is inhabited by the daemons K'ron'd, Aynet'd, phtp'd and huttup'd. Any one care to pick that up? Join the ProcessTree Network: For-pay Internet distributed processing. http://www.ProcessTree.com/?sponsor=5934 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOMceRa5JfrFgmk9OEQKKawCdEdBLi2LxhSk1mgulCbtNmpq6oQ4AmgJs uKBUoLkNPBtFq+godICXMs/d =hYJP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Mar 10 2: 7:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (manchaca.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F52537B99D; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:07:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwu@tick.ece.utexas.edu) Received: from tick.ece.utexas.edu (tick.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.31]) by manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA04252; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:07:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:07:36 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Chin-yuan Wu To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Organizing a Texas FreeBSD User Group Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry for the repeats, having trouble with smtp-server.san.rr.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello Everyone: Reply to keichii@mail.utexas.edu please :) I have been thinking about organizing a FreeBSD user group for the Dallas/Ft. Worth, Houston, Austin, San Antonio and surrounding cities. (Sorry El Paso people, but 8 hour drives don't seem to be feasible. You are welcome to come to our meetings though ;) ) Someone has offered me access to majordomo and http service. However, I was wondering if anyone is interested in: A: Providing or helping to search for meeting place B: Providing admin/design for majordomo/httpd [This should be just an one time job with only webpage updates.] C: Coming to the meetings :) D: Sponsor some food/drinks (We could just have everyone bring some food/drinks + their computers) If you or someone you know is/could be interested, please feel free to spam my mailbox keichii@mail.utexas.edu :) - -- ]MQ@AoQu}C Strive for the very best; The outcome is not important. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOMiZN4+pn6xwqVlNEQINSgCghXnW3jLIGOtUH7X5gPB55AQ0I5oAn0Vj JW8ZrNMwYzwoWhOr2sPFHZuY =6DqZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Mar 10 2:25:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FED137B9A1; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:25:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC08FCD8B; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:25:05 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:23:59 +0100 To: Michael Chin-yuan Wu , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Organizing a Texas FreeBSD User Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:07 AM -0600 2000/3/10, Michael Chin-yuan Wu wrote: > B: Providing admin/design for majordomo/httpd [This should be > just an one time job with only webpage updates.] Speaking as someone who has been involved with dc.sage (the SAGE local group in the Washington, DC area) for a while, I can tell you for a fact that this is not a realistic expectation. You need to keep your web pages up-to-date, because this is an important method of communicating information to your members. Otherwise, I wish you all the best! -- These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy ========================================================================= Brad Knowles, Sys. Arch., Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. See for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Mar 10 2:36:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from pike.cdrom.com (pike.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C5337B993; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:36:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rab@pike.cdrom.com) Received: from pike.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by pike.cdrom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA02322; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:36:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200003101036.CAA02322@pike.cdrom.com> To: Michael Chin-yuan Wu Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, rab@pike.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Organizing a Texas FreeBSD User Group In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:07:36 CST." Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:36:32 -0800 From: "Robert A. Bruce" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Chin-yuan Wu said... > >I have been thinking about organizing a FreeBSD user group for >the Dallas/Ft. Worth, Houston, Austin, San Antonio and surrounding >cities. (Sorry El Paso people, but 8 hour drives don't seem to >be feasible. You are welcome to come to our meetings though ;) ) I believe that Houton already has a FUG. See http://www.houfug.org/ >A: Providing or helping to search for meeting place Bookstores are often good places for meetings. Borders and B&N will often let you use their cafe areas for meetings if you schedule them in advance. >C: Coming to the meetings :) Sorry, Texas is too far from Concord, CA. >D: Sponsor some food/drinks (We could just have everyone bring some >food/drinks + their computers) Sure. My company, BSDI (formerly known as Walnut Creek CDROM), will be happy to sponsor food/drinks at your first meeting. We can also provide you with some brochures, install discs, and other advocacy materials. Let me know what you need. -bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message