From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jul 17 9:12:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0552837BA01 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 09:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04911 for advocacy@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:12:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200007171612.MAA04911@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Stupid BSDCon question To: advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:12:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I went to register for BSDCon today. It lists two tutorial sessions as #1 and #2, but doesn't seem to say which is which. Does anyone know which is the "BSD Internals" tutorial, and what the other tutorial is? Thanks, ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jul 17 9:26:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6152A37BA87 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 09:26:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rab@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA93421; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 09:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rab@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007171625.JAA93421@pike.osd.bsdi.com> To: Michael Lucas Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, rab@pike.osd.bsdi.com Subject: Re: Stupid BSDCon question In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:12:24 EDT." <200007171612.MAA04911@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 09:25:39 -0700 From: "Robert A. Bruce" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Michael, Kirk McKusick's "BSD Internals" tutorial runs during the second tutorial session, Oct 16-17. The first session, Oct 14-15, will include a two day security tutorial. Both sessions will include several other shorter tutorials. We are still working on the details. -bob Michael Lucas said... >Well, I went to register for BSDCon today. > >It lists two tutorial sessions as #1 and #2, but doesn't seem to say >which is which. Does anyone know which is the "BSD Internals" >tutorial, and what the other tutorial is? > >Thanks, >==ml > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Jul 18 5: 9:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFD737B5F8; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 05:09:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09569; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:09:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200007181209.IAA09569@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Southeast Michigan Users' Group followup To: advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:09:38 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, I offered a couple weeks ago to organize a Southeast Michigan users' group, and asked people to mail me if they were interested. To date, I've gotten two responses. Counting me, that makes three. This a second call for interested parties. Otherwise, I think it's a bust for right now; I'll try again after BSDCon. (please pardon the crosspost to -stable; this is of marginal interest to most -stable users, but the biggest audience is on -stable. Followups to -advocacy, or just drop me a line.) ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Jul 18 11:55: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.mich.com (mercury.mich.com [64.79.64.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1C237B8F8 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:55:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@almanac.yi.org) Received: from argon.gryphonsoft.com (pm007-024.dialup.bignet.net [64.79.81.56]) by mercury.mich.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06720; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:53:42 -0400 Received: by argon.gryphonsoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 04AD019BB; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:52:00 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: Michael Lucas Cc: FreeBSD Advocacy Subject: Re: Southeast Michigan Users' Group followup Message-ID: <20000718145200.J503@argon.gryphonsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 08:09:38AM -0400, Michael Lucas wrote: > I offered a couple weeks ago to organize a Southeast Michigan users' > group, and asked people to mail me if they were interested. > > To date, I've gotten two responses. Counting me, that makes three. > > This a second call for interested parties. Otherwise, I think it's a > bust for right now; I'll try again after BSDCon. I would be happy to join, except: 1) I'm moving to Indiana in 3 weeks. 2) No time these days.. > (please pardon the crosspost to -stable; this is of marginal interest > to most -stable users, but the biggest audience is on -stable. > Followups to -advocacy, or just drop me a line.) Use BCC next time. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jul 19 0:39:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from soda.csua.Berkeley.edu (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE2A37B690 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:39:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from suzuki@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from soda.csua.Berkeley.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by soda.csua.Berkeley.edu (8.8.8/) via ESMTP id AAA19760 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:39:37 -0700 (PDT) env-from (suzuki@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Message-Id: <200007190739.AAA19760@soda.csua.Berkeley.edu> To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: question X-Mailer: mh-6.8.4 X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE X-URL: www.hosers.net Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:39:36 -0700 From: Elle Yoko Suzuki Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, how can i help out in the freebsd advocacy group? -elle To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jul 19 10:44: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from slkcpop4.slkc.uswest.net (pop.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF36337B8C3 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:44:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jswarner@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 81985 invoked by alias); 19 Jul 2000 17:44:02 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 81969 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2000 17:44:01 -0000 Received: from acdialup77.slkc.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (63.224.104.77) by pop.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2000 17:44:01 -0000 Message-ID: <3975E7FD.38257B9A@uswest.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:40:13 -0600 From: Joe Warner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: BSD a better OS than Linux? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anybody have any thoughts on this? Especially the part about "precious few applications". Is this an accurate comparison? ------>http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2299366-2,00.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jul 19 10:52: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.mich.com (mercury.mich.com [64.79.64.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DB637BFB1; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:51:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@almanac.yi.org) Received: from argon.gryphonsoft.com (pm006-027.dialup.bignet.net [64.79.81.11]) by mercury.mich.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12153; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:50:51 -0400 Received: by argon.gryphonsoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C0113197E; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:49:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:49:11 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: Joe Warner Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD a better OS than Linux? Message-ID: <20000719134911.O11216@argon.gryphonsoft.com> References: <3975E7FD.38257B9A@uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3975E7FD.38257B9A@uswest.net>; from jswarner@uswest.net on Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 11:40:13AM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 11:40:13AM -0600, Joe Warner wrote: > ------>http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2299366-2,00.html In case you didn't notice, this article is a year old. There was a thread about it back then, as I recall.. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jul 19 12:30:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from slkcpop3.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop3.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 28D3937C012 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:30:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jswarner@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 25765 invoked by alias); 19 Jul 2000 19:30:46 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 25750 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2000 19:30:46 -0000 Received: from acdialup199.slkc.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (63.224.104.199) by slkcpop3.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2000 19:30:46 -0000 Message-ID: <39760102.1760559D@uswest.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:26:58 -0600 From: Joe Warner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Andrews Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD a better OS than Linux? References: <3975E7FD.38257B9A@uswest.net> <20000719134911.O11216@argon.gryphonsoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, I noticed. I guess I should have been more specific. I was hoping someone could point out which parts of the BSD related material in this article have changed between now and it's first posting. Will Andrews wrote: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 11:40:13AM -0600, Joe Warner wrote: > > ------>http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2299366-2,00.html > > In case you didn't notice, this article is a year old. There was a > thread about it back then, as I recall.. > > -- > Will Andrews > GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- > ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ > G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jul 19 13:43:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [206.79.44.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDC337C0DB; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:43:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21031; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:41:59 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:41:59 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Michael Lucas Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Southeast Michigan Users' Group followup Message-ID: <20000719174158.A20996@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200007181209.IAA09569@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007181209.IAA09569@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 08:09:38AM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael, On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 08:09:38AM -0400, Michael Lucas wrote: > I offered a couple weeks ago to organize a Southeast Michigan users' > group, and asked people to mail me if they were interested. > > To date, I've gotten two responses. Counting me, that makes three. Based on personal experience, just go ahead and do it. I tried your approach when I tried setting up a UK FreeBSD user group. Response from the mailing lists was apathetic. Then Lee Johnston did exactly the right thing, and set up some mailing lists and a website and announced that the UK UG existed. Suddenly people came crawling out of the woodwork to subscribe :-) N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jul 19 14:19: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from obie.softweyr.com (obie.softweyr.com [204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2399437C1AD; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 14:18:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com ([208.187.122.225]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17742; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:18:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <39761BF5.12FE8E93@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:21:57 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Warner Cc: Will Andrews , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD a better OS than Linux? References: <3975E7FD.38257B9A@uswest.net> <20000719134911.O11216@argon.gryphonsoft.com> <39760102.1760559D@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Warner wrote: > > Yes, I noticed. I guess I should have been more specific. I was hoping someone > could point out which parts of the BSD related material in this article have > changed between now and it's first posting. None. Only half of it was true then, just like my quotes. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jul 19 23:23:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAF937BA56 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:23:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA81391 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:23:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD poster idea. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4.1 will ship containing 3605 ports in the ports collection - which is an *awful* lot of applications, when you think about it (although of course some of them are marked broken). Does anyone else think it would be cool to have a poster with a header something like: "FreeBSD 4.1: Now available with the following applications" followed by a big list of all 3605 ports? One of the big things we hear about BSD is how little software is apparently available for it. This could make an impressive visual demonstration. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 4:19:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE06037BBA5; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 04:19:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA20632; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:19:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200007201119.HAA20632@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. In-Reply-To: from Kris Kennaway at "Jul 19, 2000 11:23:34 pm" To: kris@FreeBSD.ORG (Kris Kennaway) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, let's skip directly to the important answer: I'd buy one. Anyone else? > FreeBSD 4.1 will ship containing 3605 ports in the ports collection - > which is an *awful* lot of applications, when you think about it > (although of course some of them are marked broken). > > Does anyone else think it would be cool to have a poster with a header > something like: > > "FreeBSD 4.1: Now available with the following applications" > > followed by a big list of all 3605 ports? > > One of the big things we hear about BSD is how little software is > apparently available for it. This could make an impressive visual > demonstration. > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 4:23:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60F237BD41; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 04:23:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13FEPp-000DSb-00; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:22:57 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:22:57 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Michael Lucas Cc: Kris Kennaway , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. Message-ID: <20000720132257.A51720@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200007201119.HAA20632@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200007201119.HAA20632@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 07:19:38AM -0400 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu 2000-07-20 (07:19), Michael Lucas wrote: > Well, let's skip directly to the important answer: > > I'd buy one. Anyone else? I'll buy 5. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 4:53:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx4.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu [128.147.18.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B365437B558; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 04:53:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from personrp@ccbh.com) Received: by 1upmc-msx4.isdbu.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:52:48 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Person, Roderick" To: 'Michael Lucas' , kris@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: FreeBSD poster idea. Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:52:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I love a poster like this to plaster all over my windows NT centric IS shop!!! Roderick P. Person Programmer II Crystal Administrator (412)454-2616 personrp@ccbh.com "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" Albert Einstein -----Original Message----- From: Michael Lucas [mailto:mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org] Sent: July 20, 2000 7:20 AM To: kris@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. Well, let's skip directly to the important answer: I'd buy one. Anyone else? > FreeBSD 4.1 will ship containing 3605 ports in the ports collection - > which is an *awful* lot of applications, when you think about it > (although of course some of them are marked broken). > > Does anyone else think it would be cool to have a poster with a header > something like: > > "FreeBSD 4.1: Now available with the following applications" > > followed by a big list of all 3605 ports? > > One of the big things we hear about BSD is how little software is > apparently available for it. This could make an impressive visual > demonstration. > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 5:13:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D57C37BA52 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:13:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 16292 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2000 12:13:45 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 20 Jul 2000 12:13:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:14:47 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.44) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <119185817621.20000720141447@buz.ch> To: Kris Kennaway Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Kris, Thursday, July 20, 2000, 8:23:34 AM, you wrote: > One of the big things we hear about BSD is how little software is > apparently available for it. This could make an impressive visual > demonstration. Nice idea. I'd suggest to take a look at http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/bazaar/mart/cart.cgi?action=view&type=item&itemid=340a It would be really cool if one could make it that way (using a daemon, for sure ;-). (Though AFAIK wasn't the module released yet) Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 5:26:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A48037BA97 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:26:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 1247 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Jul 2000 12:26:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jul 2000 12:26:38 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:26:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Kris Kennaway Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: : : FreeBSD 4.1 will ship containing 3605 ports in the ports collection - : which is an *awful* lot of applications, when you think about it : (although of course some of them are marked broken). Cool! That number always keeps growing :) : Does anyone else think it would be cool to have a poster with a header : something like: : : "FreeBSD 4.1: Now available with the following applications" : : followed by a big list of all 3605 ports? : : One of the big things we hear about BSD is how little software is : apparently available for it. This could make an impressive visual : demonstration. That, is brilliant Kris. I'd do it :) : Kris : : -- : In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. : -- Charles Forsythe * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5du/+dMMtMcA1U5ARAnuzAKCQ+X9BdUgMsaPPFE2Glxo7zwrsDgCgmjma eDHtxHxP6/vz3VcV3xY1zOc= =ovKV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 5:34:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from nci-mail.nci.de (nci-mail.nci.de [212.52.224.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CA437BC8E for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:34:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick.baer@nci.de) Received: from nci.de ([195.88.130.70]) by nci-mail.nci.de (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 127-60718U1000L100S0V35) with ESMTP id de for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:34:14 +0100 Message-ID: <3976F1D6.7757E252@nci.de> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:34:30 +0200 From: Patrick Baer Organization: NCI Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. References: <119185817621.20000720141447@buz.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > >http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/bazaar/mart/cart.cgi?action=view&type=item&itemid=340a I need new carpets, so go for it! :) -- Patrick Bär, NCI Network GmbH | Tel. 089/368179-16 Osterwaldstr. 10 | email patrick.baer@nci.de 80805 München | http://www.nci.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 6: 3:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from slkcpop4.slkc.uswest.net (pop.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D85DF37B555 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:03:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jswarner@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 56191 invoked by alias); 20 Jul 2000 13:03:15 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 56170 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jul 2000 13:03:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO uswest.net) (63.224.105.135) by pop.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 2000 13:03:14 -0000 Message-ID: <3976F7AD.9633208F@uswest.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:59:25 -0600 From: Joe Warner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters Cc: Will Andrews , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD a better OS than Linux? References: <3975E7FD.38257B9A@uswest.net> <20000719134911.O11216@argon.gryphonsoft.com> <39760102.1760559D@uswest.net> <39761BF5.12FE8E93@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If the information in this article is old and only half true, then why is "bsdtoday" posting it on their web site? --------->http://www.bsdtoday.com/resources/Advocacy/ Wes Peters wrote: > Joe Warner wrote: > > > > Yes, I noticed. I guess I should have been more specific. I was hoping someone > > could point out which parts of the BSD related material in this article have > > changed between now and it's first posting. > > None. Only half of it was true then, just like my quotes. ;^) > > -- > "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" > > Wes Peters Softweyr LLC > wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- FreeBSD = The Power to Serve ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 6:10:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.thuntek.net (mail2.thuntek.net [206.206.98.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76C237BC30 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:10:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Don@Silver-Lynx.com) Received: from Silver-Lynx.com (abq-017.thuntek.net [207.66.52.17]) by mail2.thuntek.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26420 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:44:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from Don@Silver-Lynx.com) Message-ID: <3976F5AA.527C12D@Silver-Lynx.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:50:50 -0600 From: Don Wilde Reply-To: Don@Silver-Lynx.com Organization: Silver Lynx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Heckaman wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > : > : FreeBSD 4.1 will ship containing 3605 ports in the ports collection - > : which is an *awful* lot of applications, when you think about it > : (although of course some of them are marked broken). > > Cool! That number always keeps growing :) > > : Does anyone else think it would be cool to have a poster with a header > : something like: > : > : "FreeBSD 4.1: Now available with the following applications" > : > : followed by a big list of all 3605 ports? I'd buy it if it had the ports which AREN'T broken... :-) I'd buy a bunch. -- Donald Wilde "Linking Minds and Micros" ================= S i l v e r L y n x =================== PMB 117, 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd SE v: 505-771-0709 f: 771-1356 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 web: http://www.Silver-Lynx.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 6:12:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD7637B555; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13FG7H-000Dzm-00; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:11:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:11:55 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Joe Warner Cc: Wes Peters , Will Andrews , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD a better OS than Linux? Message-ID: <20000720151155.A53756@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <3975E7FD.38257B9A@uswest.net> <20000719134911.O11216@argon.gryphonsoft.com> <39760102.1760559D@uswest.net> <39761BF5.12FE8E93@softweyr.com> <3976F7AD.9633208F@uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3976F7AD.9633208F@uswest.net>; from jswarner@uswest.net on Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 06:59:25AM -0600 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu 2000-07-20 (06:59), Joe Warner wrote: > If the information in this article is old and only half true, then why > is "bsdtoday" posting it on their web site? > --------->http://www.bsdtoday.com/resources/Advocacy/ I don't know. Why don't you ask them? Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 6:25:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FCA437BAE5 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jswarner@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 1174 invoked by alias); 20 Jul 2000 13:25:35 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-advocacy@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 1162 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jul 2000 13:25:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO uswest.net) (63.224.105.135) by slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 20 Jul 2000 13:25:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3976FCE9.9DE134C1@uswest.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:21:45 -0600 From: Joe Warner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd buy one. It would look good next to the Sys Admin poster I have in my cubicle. Kris Kennaway wrote: > FreeBSD 4.1 will ship containing 3605 ports in the ports collection - > which is an *awful* lot of applications, when you think about it > (although of course some of them are marked broken). > > Does anyone else think it would be cool to have a poster with a header > something like: > > "FreeBSD 4.1: Now available with the following applications" > > followed by a big list of all 3605 ports? > > One of the big things we hear about BSD is how little software is > apparently available for it. This could make an impressive visual > demonstration. > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- FreeBSD = The Power to Serve ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 7:14:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from po4.glue.umd.edu (po4.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7619B37BC64; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 07:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from howardjp@glue.umd.edu) Received: from y.glue.umd.edu (root@y.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.68]) by po4.glue.umd.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6KEE5v22872; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from y.glue.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by y.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA12416; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (howardjp@localhost) by y.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12412; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:14:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: y.glue.umd.edu: howardjp owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:14:04 -0400 (EDT) From: James Howard To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'Michael Lucas'" , kris@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: FreeBSD poster idea. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Person, Roderick wrote: > I love a poster like this to plaster all over my windows NT centric IS > shop!!! Same here. j~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 9: 0:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from obie.softweyr.com (obie.softweyr.com [204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD9037BF3A; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (Foolstrustident!@homer.softweyr.com [204.68.178.39]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20013; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:59:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <397722D7.23345F5F@softweyr.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:03:35 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Warner Cc: Will Andrews , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD a better OS than Linux? References: <3975E7FD.38257B9A@uswest.net> <20000719134911.O11216@argon.gryphonsoft.com> <39760102.1760559D@uswest.net> <39761BF5.12FE8E93@softweyr.com> <3976F7AD.9633208F@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Warner wrote: > > If the information in this article is old and only half true, then why is "bsdtoday" > posting it on their web site? > --------->http://www.bsdtoday.com/resources/Advocacy/ Because there isn't any "new news" and they have to publish SOMETHING? The author of that article mis-quoted me twice, which is pretty bad since he only quoted me twice. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 15:52:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from magus.users.xmission.com (magus.users.xmission.com [204.228.152.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE70037B528 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:52:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from magus@magus.users.xmission.com) Received: (from magus@localhost) by magus.users.xmission.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA68198 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:56:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from magus) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:56:29 -0600 From: Anthony Chavez To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. Message-ID: <20000720165629.A68152@magus.users.xmission.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <119185817621.20000720141447@buz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <119185817621.20000720141447@buz.ch>; from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch on Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 02:14:47PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 02:14:47PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > Hello Kris, > > Thursday, July 20, 2000, 8:23:34 AM, you wrote: > > One of the big things we hear about BSD is how little software is > > apparently available for it. This could make an impressive visual > > demonstration. > > Nice idea. I'd suggest to take a look at > http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/bazaar/mart/cart.cgi?action=view&type=item&itemid=340a > It would be really cool if one could make it that way (using a daemon, > for sure ;-). (Though AFAIK wasn't the module released yet) I would definitely buy something like that. Hell, even if it wasn't shaped like a daemon, I would buy it. :-) -- magus@xmission.com http://wwp.icq.com/17901391 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ``The world is indeed comic, but the joke is on mankind.'' -- Howard Phillips Lovecraft To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 16:50:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F144F37C208; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:50:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01485; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:19:48 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:19:48 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Joe Warner Cc: Wes Peters , Will Andrews , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD a better OS than Linux? Message-ID: <20000721091948.K936@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3975E7FD.38257B9A@uswest.net> <20000719134911.O11216@argon.gryphonsoft.com> <39760102.1760559D@uswest.net> <39761BF5.12FE8E93@softweyr.com> <3976F7AD.9633208F@uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <3976F7AD.9633208F@uswest.net> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 20 July 2000 at 6:59:25 -0600, Joe Warner wrote: > Wes Peters wrote: > >> Joe Warner wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I noticed. I guess I should have been more specific. I was hoping someone >>> could point out which parts of the BSD related material in this article have >>> changed between now and it's first posting. >> >> None. Only half of it was true then, just like my quotes. ;^) > > If the information in this article is old and only half true, then why is "bsdtoday" > posting it on their web site? > --------->http://www.bsdtoday.com/resources/Advocacy/ It's common enough to keep old articles on web sites. Daemon News does it too. They're not pretending it's new. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 18:37:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C09237B790; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 18:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (user-2iveabl.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.41.117]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA29096; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3977A8AA.23FA653@confusion.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 21:34:34 -0400 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: Kris Kennaway , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. References: <200007201119.HAA20632@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's generally a bad idea to post lots of me too messages. So I resisted the urge, even though I would buy one, and posted this instead. With apologies to your bandwidth... Michael Lucas wrote: > > Well, let's skip directly to the important answer: > > I'd buy one. Anyone else? > > > FreeBSD 4.1 will ship containing 3605 ports in the ports collection - > > which is an *awful* lot of applications, when you think about it > > (although of course some of them are marked broken). > > > > Does anyone else think it would be cool to have a poster with a header > > something like: > > > > "FreeBSD 4.1: Now available with the following applications" > > > > followed by a big list of all 3605 ports? > > > > One of the big things we hear about BSD is how little software is > > apparently available for it. This could make an impressive visual > > demonstration. > > > > Kris > > > > -- > > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 19:10:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f272.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47B3137B9AA for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:10:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ntvsunix@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 66654 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2000 02:10:49 -0000 Message-ID: <20000721021049.66653.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.53.54.44 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:10:49 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.53.54.44] From: "Some Person" To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD a better OS than Linux? Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:10:49 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I see no harm in it. But rather only to better inform the public eye, or, the public's cauntiousness in reviewing FreeBSD more. At the same time, it advocates it. The more info, documents, *books*, news, etc.. etc.. Just helps FreeBSD in a lot of ways! I'm all for it! 200%. My license plate is FreeBSD, and bumper sticker - http://www.freebsd.org/! I want to see FreeBSD get in the spotlight Linux is now, and get what it deserves! KICK A** OS!!! I also like OpenBSD too mind you. >On Thursday, 20 July 2000 at 6:59:25 -0600, Joe Warner wrote: > > Wes Peters wrote: > > > >> Joe Warner wrote: > >>> > >>> Yes, I noticed. I guess I should have been more specific. I was >hoping someone > >>> could point out which parts of the BSD related material in this >article have > >>> changed between now and it's first posting. > >> > >> None. Only half of it was true then, just like my quotes. ;^) > > > > If the information in this article is old and only half true, then why >is "bsdtoday" > > posting it on their web site? > > --------->http://www.bsdtoday.com/resources/Advocacy/ > >It's common enough to keep old articles on web sites. Daemon News >does it too. They're not pretending it's new. > >Greg >-- >Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key >See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 20 22:37:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D7937B72D for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 22:37:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16376; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:37:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:37:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200007210537.HAA16376@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-advocacy In-Reply-To: <8l65ub$bb7$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-advocacy Kris Kennaway wrote: > FreeBSD 4.1 will ship containing 3605 ports in the ports collection - > which is an *awful* lot of applications, when you think about it > (although of course some of them are marked broken). I counted just 3596 ports, but well... still impressive. :) > Does anyone else think it would be cool to have a poster with a header > something like: > > "FreeBSD 4.1: Now available with the following applications" > > followed by a big list of all 3605 ports? OK, I created one. This is not a particularly great piece of artwork, but I think it's a good start. You can download it from this URL: http://www.fromme.com/ports.ps.gz It is a simple black&white ISO-A0-sized poster, you can preview it with "gv" (from the ports...) and print it on one of those nifty bubblejet A0 plotters. :) BTW, I made it with Gimp, TeX, netpbm (all from the ports, of course), a small C program and a shell script. Regards Oliver PS: ISO-A0 == 83.9611cm × 118.816cm == 33.0556in × 46.7778in -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jul 21 8:36: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from slkcpop3.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop3.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DFEC37BC58 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jswarner@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 808 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 2000 15:35:39 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 785 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2000 15:35:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO uswest.net) (63.224.106.243) by slkcpop3.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 2000 15:35:38 -0000 Message-ID: <39786CE5.C5954054@uswest.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:31:49 -0600 From: Joe Warner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: New Opportunity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just thought I'd pass on the news that I've been asked to install Linux with Apache configured on a PC in our computer lab for testing next week. I'm going to see if I can convince the guy who requested this, our Manager of Technology, to let me install FreeBSD instead. He's been playing around with Linux for a while but I don't think he's too familiar with the capabilities of FreeBSD. Who knows, maybe they'll give me two machines. One for FreeBSD and the other for Linux. Joe -- FreeBSD = The Power to Serve ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jul 21 11:43: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from obie.softweyr.com (obie.softweyr.com [204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE9D37B7E5 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:42:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com ([208.187.122.225]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22527; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:42:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <39789A8F.2A4E060A@softweyr.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:46:39 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Warner Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Opportunity References: <39786CE5.C5954054@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Warner wrote: > > I just thought I'd pass on the news that I've been asked to install > Linux with Apache configured on a PC in our computer lab for testing > next week. I'm going to see if I can convince the guy who requested > this, our Manager of Technology, to let me install FreeBSD instead. > He's been playing around with Linux for a while but I don't think he's > too familiar with the capabilities of FreeBSD. Who knows, maybe they'll > give me two machines. One for FreeBSD and the other for Linux. Just do it. If he asks any questions, tell him your neighbor's brother in law said FreeBSD was the best "distro" so you got that one. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 5:31: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830DB37C27D for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 05:30:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.255.97.27]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000722123057.QINT16423.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain> for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 13:30:57 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01044 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 13:30:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 13:30:55 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. Message-ID: <20000722133054.D236@parish> References: <8l65ub$bb7$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> <200007210537.HAA16376@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007210537.HAA16376@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de on Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 07:37:26AM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 07:37:26AM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > In list.freebsd-advocacy Kris Kennaway wrote: > > FreeBSD 4.1 will ship containing 3605 ports in the ports collection - > > which is an *awful* lot of applications, when you think about it > > (although of course some of them are marked broken). > > I counted just 3596 ports, but well... still impressive. :) > > > Does anyone else think it would be cool to have a poster with a header > > something like: > > > > "FreeBSD 4.1: Now available with the following applications" > > > > followed by a big list of all 3605 ports? > > OK, I created one. This is not a particularly great piece > of artwork, but I think it's a good start. You can download > it from this URL: > > http://www.fromme.com/ports.ps.gz > > It is a simple black&white ISO-A0-sized poster, you can > preview it with "gv" (from the ports...) So how do you get gv to display the whole image? I can only see what appears to be the bottom left corner. There doesn't appear to be a way to specify A0 as the paper size. > and print it on > one of those nifty bubblejet A0 plotters. :) > > BTW, I made it with Gimp, TeX, netpbm (all from the ports, > of course), a small C program and a shell script. > > Regards > Oliver > > PS: ISO-A0 == 83.9611cm × 118.816cm == 33.0556in × 46.7778in > > -- > Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany > (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) > Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com > > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" > (Terry Pratchett) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 5:55:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3D6F37B678 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 05:55:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jswarner@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 20270 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 2000 12:55:35 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 20253 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jul 2000 12:55:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO uswest.net) (63.224.106.181) by slkcpop1.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 22 Jul 2000 12:55:34 -0000 Message-ID: <397998E5.E0B1DD13@uswest.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 06:51:50 -0600 From: Joe Warner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Opportunity References: <39786CE5.C5954054@uswest.net> <39789A8F.2A4E060A@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Right on. Yeah, I had already decided to do just that since posting this email. He's more interested in some testing he wants to do with Apache and he'll probably only be operating from the GUI for the time being. I don't even think there's a chance he'll telnet to the box for a while. So, after I get it up and running and get Apache going, I'll gradually add new apps and functionality to impress him with later. 8^) Joe Wes Peters wrote: > Joe Warner wrote: > > > > I just thought I'd pass on the news that I've been asked to install > > Linux with Apache configured on a PC in our computer lab for testing > > next week. I'm going to see if I can convince the guy who requested > > this, our Manager of Technology, to let me install FreeBSD instead. > > He's been playing around with Linux for a while but I don't think he's > > too familiar with the capabilities of FreeBSD. Who knows, maybe they'll > > give me two machines. One for FreeBSD and the other for Linux. > > Just do it. If he asks any questions, tell him your neighbor's brother > in law said FreeBSD was the best "distro" so you got that one. > > -- > "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" > > Wes Peters Softweyr LLC > wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ -- FreeBSD = The Power to Serve ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 8:35:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9C137B659 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 08:35:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA86339; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:35:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:35:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200007221535.RAA86339@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-advocacy In-Reply-To: <8lc4an$10e5$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-advocacy Mark Ovens wrote: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 07:37:26AM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > http://www.fromme.com/ports.ps.gz > > > > It is a simple black&white ISO-A0-sized poster, you can > > preview it with "gv" (from the ports...) > > So how do you get gv to display the whole image? I can only see what > appears to be the bottom left corner. There doesn't appear to be a way > to specify A0 as the paper size. Select "BBox" (bounding box) in the size menu. (Happens to be the default for me, but that might be just my config.) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 9:18:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEFE37B68A for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:18:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.255.99.226]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000722171731.MABY3760.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain> for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:17:31 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00560 for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:18:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:18:11 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. Message-ID: <20000722171811.C236@parish> References: <8lc4an$10e5$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> <200007221535.RAA86339@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007221535.RAA86339@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de on Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 05:35:12PM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 05:35:12PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > In list.freebsd-advocacy Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 07:37:26AM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > http://www.fromme.com/ports.ps.gz > > > > > > It is a simple black&white ISO-A0-sized poster, you can > > > preview it with "gv" (from the ports...) > > > > So how do you get gv to display the whole image? I can only see what > > appears to be the bottom left corner. There doesn't appear to be a way > > to specify A0 as the paper size. > > Select "BBox" (bounding box) in the size menu. > (Happens to be the default for me, but that might > be just my config.) > Huh? I don't see a "size" menu. I'm using ghostview-1.5, which is the latest version in the ports. Are you using a later version? > Regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany > (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) > Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com > > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" > (Terry Pratchett) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 9:24:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in (theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.71.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFC6F37B68A for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:24:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in) Received: (qmail 73332 invoked by uid 211); 22 Jul 2000 16:24:25 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:54:25 +0530 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Mark Ovens Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. Message-ID: <20000722215425.A73325@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Ovens , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG References: <8lc4an$10e5$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> <200007221535.RAA86339@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> <20000722171811.C236@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000722171811.C236@parish>; from marko@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 05:18:11PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens said on Jul 22, 2000 at 17:18:11: > On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 05:35:12PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > In list.freebsd-advocacy Mark Ovens wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 07:37:26AM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > http://www.fromme.com/ports.ps.gz > > > > > > > > It is a simple black&white ISO-A0-sized poster, you can > > > > preview it with "gv" (from the ports...) > > > > > > So how do you get gv to display the whole image? I can only see what > > > appears to be the bottom left corner. There doesn't appear to be a way > > > to specify A0 as the paper size. > > > > Select "BBox" (bounding box) in the size menu. > > (Happens to be the default for me, but that might > > be just my config.) > > > > Huh? I don't see a "size" menu. I'm using ghostview-1.5, which is the > latest version in the ports. Are you using a later version? Use gv, not ghostview. Huge improvement. Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 9:32:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67AC37B942 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA87629; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:32:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:32:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200007221632.SAA87629@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-advocacy In-Reply-To: <8lchhi$16uu$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-advocacy Mark Ovens wrote: > On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 05:35:12PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Select "BBox" (bounding box) in the size menu. > > (Happens to be the default for me, but that might > > be just my config.) > > Huh? I don't see a "size" menu. I'm using ghostview-1.5, which is the > latest version in the ports. Are you using a later version? No, not ghostview. gv. /usr/ports/print/gv Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 9:34:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955E237B9CF for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:34:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.255.99.226]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000722173344.MBKV3760.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:33:44 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00698; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:34:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:34:25 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. Message-ID: <20000722173425.D236@parish> References: <8lc4an$10e5$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> <200007221535.RAA86339@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> <20000722171811.C236@parish> <20000722215425.A73325@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000722215425.A73325@physics.iisc.ernet.in>; from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in on Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 09:54:25PM +0530 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 09:54:25PM +0530, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Mark Ovens said on Jul 22, 2000 at 17:18:11: > > On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 05:35:12PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > In list.freebsd-advocacy Mark Ovens wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 07:37:26AM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > > http://www.fromme.com/ports.ps.gz > > > > > > > > > > It is a simple black&white ISO-A0-sized poster, you can > > > > > preview it with "gv" (from the ports...) > > > > > > > > So how do you get gv to display the whole image? I can only see what > > > > appears to be the bottom left corner. There doesn't appear to be a way > > > > to specify A0 as the paper size. > > > > > > Select "BBox" (bounding box) in the size menu. > > > (Happens to be the default for me, but that might > > > be just my config.) > > > > > > > Huh? I don't see a "size" menu. I'm using ghostview-1.5, which is the > > latest version in the ports. Are you using a later version? > > Use gv, not ghostview. Huge improvement. > Huh? (again). On my machine gv is a symlink to ghostview: /usr/marko{52}% ls -li `which -a gv ghostview` 214357 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 100256 13 Feb 1999 /usr/X11R6/bin/ghostview 595803 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 18 Dec 1999 /usr/X11R6/bin/gv -> ghostview /usr/marko{53}% > Rahul. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 9:37:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in (theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.71.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC31237B9C2 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:37:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in) Received: (qmail 73402 invoked by uid 211); 22 Jul 2000 16:37:43 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 22:07:42 +0530 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Mark Ovens Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. Message-ID: <20000722220742.C73325@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Ovens , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG References: <8lc4an$10e5$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> <200007221535.RAA86339@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> <20000722171811.C236@parish> <20000722215425.A73325@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <20000722173425.D236@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000722173425.D236@parish>; from marko@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 05:34:25PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens said on Jul 22, 2000 at 17:34:25: > > Use gv, not ghostview. Huge improvement. > > > > Huh? (again). On my machine gv is a symlink to ghostview: > > /usr/marko{52}% ls -li `which -a gv ghostview` > 214357 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 100256 13 Feb 1999 /usr/X11R6/bin/ghostview > 595803 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 18 Dec 1999 /usr/X11R6/bin/gv -> ghostview Funny. It's a different port altogether -- /usr/ports/print/gv I never installed ghostview, only gv. On many linux distributions ghostview is a symlink to gv. gv looks nicer, does antialiasing, etc. Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 9:41:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE5637BCAA for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.255.99.226]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000722174033.MCGZ3760.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:40:33 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01373; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:41:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:41:14 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Cc: Rahul Siddharthan Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. Message-ID: <20000722174114.E236@parish> References: <8lchhi$16uu$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> <200007221632.SAA87629@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007221632.SAA87629@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de on Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 06:32:14PM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 06:32:14PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > In list.freebsd-advocacy Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 05:35:12PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Select "BBox" (bounding box) in the size menu. > > > (Happens to be the default for me, but that might > > > be just my config.) > > > > Huh? I don't see a "size" menu. I'm using ghostview-1.5, which is the > > latest version in the ports. Are you using a later version? > > No, not ghostview. gv. /usr/ports/print/gv > Ah ha! I must have created the symlink myself (ref my reply to Rahul). I just tried making the gv port but it fails big-time: parish# make >> gv-3.5.8.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftpthep.physik.uni-mainz.de/pub/gv/unix/. Receiving gv-3.5.8.tar.gz (369609 bytes): 100% 369609 bytes transferred in 94.5 seconds (3.82 kBps) ===> Extracting for gv-3.5.8 >> Checksum OK for gv-3.5.8.tar.gz. ===> gv-3.5.8 depends on shared library: Xaw3d.6 - found ===> gv-3.5.8 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found ===> Patching for gv-3.5.8 [snip] Button.c:38: X11/Xaw3d/XawInit.h: No such file or directory In file included from ButtonP.h:32, from Button.c:39: Button.h:32: X11/Xaw3d/Command.h: No such file or directory In file included from Button.c:39: ButtonP.h:33: X11/Xaw3d/CommandP.h: No such file or directory Clip.c:36: X11/Xaw3d/XawInit.h: No such file or directory In file included from ClipP.h:33, from Clip.c:38: [lots more of the same snipped] ButtonP.h:33: X11/Xaw3d/CommandP.h: No such file or directory In file included from Button.c:39: ButtonP.h:42: syntax error before `SimpleClassPart' ButtonP.h:66: syntax error before `SimplePart' Button.c:73: `XtNhighlightThickness' undeclared here (not in a function) Button.c:73: initializer element is not constant Button.c:73: (near initialization for `resources[5].resource_name') Button.c:74: structure has no member named `command' Any suggestions as to what's wrong? It seems to be missing Athena stuff, but the dependency checked said it was found OK. > Regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany > (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) > Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com > > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" > (Terry Pratchett) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 9:46:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in (theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.71.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D05737B5C5 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:46:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in) Received: (qmail 73461 invoked by uid 211); 22 Jul 2000 16:46:30 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 22:16:30 +0530 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Mark Ovens Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. Message-ID: <20000722221630.E73325@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Ovens , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <8lchhi$16uu$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> <200007221632.SAA87629@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> <20000722174114.E236@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000722174114.E236@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 05:41:14PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens said on Jul 22, 2000 at 17:41:14: > > > > No, not ghostview. gv. /usr/ports/print/gv > > > > Ah ha! I must have created the symlink myself (ref my reply to Rahul). > I just tried making the gv port but it fails big-time: > > [snip] > > Button.c:38: X11/Xaw3d/XawInit.h: No such file or directory [snip] > Any suggestions as to what's wrong? It seems to be missing Athena > stuff, but the dependency checked said it was found OK. Try deleting the Xaw3d port, if it's installed, and reinstalling it? Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 10:15:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B25E37BA64 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 10:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.255.99.226]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000722181435.MGGE3760.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:14:35 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04105; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:15:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:15:17 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Oliver Fromme , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. Message-ID: <20000722181517.G236@parish> References: <8lchhi$16uu$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> <200007221632.SAA87629@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> <20000722174114.E236@parish> <20000722221630.E73325@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000722221630.E73325@physics.iisc.ernet.in>; from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in on Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 10:16:30PM +0530 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 10:16:30PM +0530, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Try deleting the Xaw3d port, if it's installed, and reinstalling it? > [Back on topic] Oliver, that poster looks great. I wonder if it could be done in colour (the colours of the daemon)? > Rahul. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jul 22 11:17: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from venus1.ttnet.net.tr (venus1.ttnet.net.tr [212.156.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D966A37B9B1; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 11:16:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alisoylu@yahoo.com) Received: from loner ([212.174.111.147]) by venus1.ttnet.net.tr (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FY3ZV700.PHD; Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:13:55 +0400 From: "Ali Soylu" To: "Mark Ovens" , "Rahul Siddharthan" Cc: "Oliver Fromme" , Subject: RE: FreeBSD poster idea. Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:10:28 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <20000722181517.G236@parish> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried adding color to it, two things: The font needs to be bold, or the colors look dull and I need a hi res daemon image (same as the one used to shape this poster) ALi -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mark Ovens Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 8:15 PM To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Oliver Fromme; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD poster idea. On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 10:16:30PM +0530, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Try deleting the Xaw3d port, if it's installed, and reinstalling it? > [Back on topic] Oliver, that poster looks great. I wonder if it could be done in colour (the colours of the daemon)? > Rahul. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message