From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 6 3:30:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from field.videotron.net (field.videotron.net [205.151.222.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A688E37B8DD for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 03:30:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freezlan@videotron.ca) Received: from primus ([24.200.189.83]) by field.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.12.14.10.29.p8) with SMTP id <0FYV00JAM7ION3@field.videotron.net> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 05:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 05:52:17 -0400 From: "..." Subject: traduction in french To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freezlan@videotron.ca Message-id: <000a01bfff8c$017df700$0202a8c0@primus> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="Boundary_(ID_vRTo2X9qpI8URod9ajL7sQ)" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. --Boundary_(ID_vRTo2X9qpI8URod9ajL7sQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi , im interested to do the traduction of the hompage freebsd.org in = french . if you need my help contact me. --Boundary_(ID_vRTo2X9qpI8URod9ajL7sQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
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--Boundary_(ID_vRTo2X9qpI8URod9ajL7sQ)-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 6 6:24:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stinky.trash.net (stinky.trash.net [195.141.182.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E32B37BB3E for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 06:24:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomasb@stinky.trash.net) Received: (from thomasb@localhost) by stinky.trash.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e76DOdx18767 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 15:24:39 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 15:24:39 +0200 From: Thomas Bader To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Chapter ``18.4.7. Update /etc'' in the handbook Message-ID: <20000806152439.A18638@trash.net> Reply-To: Thomas Bader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Organization: trash.net - Internet Technology for everybody - http://www.trash.net/ X-Url: X-Cool: get your free UNIX account @ http://www.trash.net/ X-PGP-Key: mailto (automated reply) X-PGP-Algorithms: RSA and DSA/EG keys are available X-Operating-System: SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc X-Editor: Vim-506 http://www.vim.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! To merge the new /etc-files, I did the following: cp -Rp /etc /etc.old mkdir /var/tmp/root cd /usr/src/etc make DESTDIR=3D/var/tmp/root distrib-dirs distribution cd /var/tmp/root diff -r etc /etc | less This way I can see, which files have changed and I can copy or merge them to /etc. This is much easier then making a timestamp in /var/tmp/root every time a "make world" is performed and one can do this even if he has not did it before and therefore has no /var/tmp/root with a timestamp. And, finally, it is much easier then do a diff for each file manually. Couldn't be that mentioned in the handbook? Thomas --=20 .-. Thomas Bader =B7 thomasb@trash.net.remove =B7 http://www.t-bader.ch= / .-. oo| o= o| /`'\ Einen Unix-Shellaccount gibt es unter http://www.trash.net/ /`= '\ (\_;/) PGP Key-ID: 0x3A4B7F5D (RSA) 0x7584F5D8 (DSA/EG) (\_= ;/) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 6 6:33:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cfdnet.me.tuns.ca (CFDnet.me.TUNS.Ca [134.190.50.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5E237BB3E for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 06:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbmail@cfdnet.me.tuns.ca) Received: from localhost (bbmail@localhost) by cfdnet.me.tuns.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15018; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 10:33:08 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from bbmail@cfdnet.me.tuns.ca) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 10:33:08 -0300 (ADT) From: Bryan Bursey To: Thomas Bader Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chapter ``18.4.7. Update /etc'' in the handbook In-Reply-To: <20000806152439.A18638@trash.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Thomas. Have you looked at 'mergemaster' which is basically just a shell script included in the base system which walks you through the updating of /etc (checking the diffs and asking the user if (s)he's like to install the file, delete the file, or merge this new file and the existing one. 'mergemaster' also runs 'sh /dev/MAKEDEV all' to remake all your devices. I believe this script is now the supported method of keeping things up to date after a 'make world'. Its mentioned in /usr/src/UPDATING, but I'm not sure if its in the beloved FreeBSD Handbook. Regards, Bryan On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, Thomas Bader wrote: > Hi! >=20 > To merge the new /etc-files, I did the following: >=20 > cp -Rp /etc /etc.old > mkdir /var/tmp/root > cd /usr/src/etc > make DESTDIR=3D/var/tmp/root distrib-dirs distribution > cd /var/tmp/root > diff -r etc /etc | less >=20 > This way I can see, which files have changed and I can copy > or merge them to /etc. This is much easier then making a > timestamp in /var/tmp/root every time a "make world" is > performed and one can do this even if he has not did it > before and therefore has no /var/tmp/root with a timestamp. > And, finally, it is much easier then do a diff for each file > manually. >=20 > Couldn't be that mentioned in the handbook? >=20 > Thomas > --=20 > .-. Thomas Bader =B7 thomasb@trash.net.remove =B7 http://www.t-bader.= ch/ .-. > oo| = oo| > /`'\ Einen Unix-Shellaccount gibt es unter http://www.trash.net/ = /`'\ > (\_;/) PGP Key-ID: 0x3A4B7F5D (RSA) 0x7584F5D8 (DSA/EG) (= \_;/) >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 6 10:17:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF1937BBB5; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 10:17:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivas45@sprintmail.com) Received: from sprintmail.com (sdn-ar-002njnbruP033.dialsprint.net [168.191.62.145]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29911; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 10:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <398D9D8B.5BA0D8B6@sprintmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 13:16:59 -0400 From: Eric Rivas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hiroki Sato Cc: kstewart@urx.com, a.genkin@utoronto.ca, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docproj + /usr/doc problems References: <878zubjode.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> <398CA6B2.572FDFC9@urx.com> <398CBE4D.9F761DFC@sprintmail.com> <200008060255.LAA01764@mail.geocities.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiroki Sato wrote: > > Eric Rivas wrote > in <398CBE4D.9F761DFC@sprintmail.com>: > > > I don't know if this is the right way, but I edited > > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/catalog and removed the 'E' from the > > "DTDDECL" (line 22; noticed that the file extension of the 'docbook.dcl' > > didn't have a 'e' and D is so close to E on the keyboard, so I thought > > it was a typo). So in mine, it reads "DTDDCL" and it works ok. > > This is not right way. This is simply because catalog of DocBook-4.1 > uses "DTDDECL" feature, but Jade is not supported it yet, unfortunately. > > DocBook-3.1 (not completely compatible with -4.1) is enough for > FreeBSD-doc, so you can avoid the noisy messages to comment out > following lines in /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog: > > CATALOG "4.1/catalog" > > like this: > > -- CATALOG "4.1/catalog" -- > > Of course, you can still use DocBook-4.1 specifying 4.1/catalog explicitly. Ok, I undid my boo-boo, and commented out the "4.1/catalog" in /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog . Tried it out and it works. Wooohoo!!! Thanks for the help. > > -- > | Hiroki Sato | sato@sekine00.ee.noda.sut.ac.jp (UNIV) > | | hrs@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Project) -- Eric J. Rivas WWW: http://home.sprintmail.com/~rivas45/ ICQ: 61930546 "I can't wait till I'm out of school, so I can start learning things!" 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C00014.438094E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 6 14:30: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E20E37BC60 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 14:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA51859; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tccn.cs.kun.nl (tccn.cs.kun.nl [131.174.32.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FA637BC38 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 14:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dutchman@tccn.cs.kun.nl) Received: from tccn.cs.kun.nl (1Cust96.tnt17.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.53.8.96]) by tccn.cs.kun.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA39079 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 23:24:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dutchman@tccn.cs.kun.nl) Message-Id: <398DD819.8CB1700C@tccn.cs.kun.nl> Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 23:26:49 +0200 From: Kees Jan Koster To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/20447: forcing NFS exports to be updated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 20447 >Category: docs >Synopsis: forcing NFS exports to be updated >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 06 14:30:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kees Jan Koster >Release: FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: It would be nice if the manual page of exports(5) mentioned how to force mountd to reread /etc/exports. >How-To-Repeat: man exports >Fix: Add a paragraph like the one in mountd(8): After changing the exports file, a hangup signal should be sent to the mountd daemon to get it to reload the export information. After sending the SIGHUP (kill -s HUP `cat /var/run/mountd.pid`), check the syslog output to see if mountd logged any parsing errors in the exports file. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: X-send-pr-version: 3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 6 20:42:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe34.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90BEF37BC4D for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 20:42:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kraftypiper@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 46969 invoked by uid 65534); 7 Aug 2000 03:42:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20000807034205.46968.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.7.195.109] From: "Kerry Piper" To: Subject: how do you work the fdisk? Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 20:34:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFFFE5.C05BD260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFFFE5.C05BD260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am used to using fdisk for windows and fdisk for linux a little, but = the freebds fdisk and the labeling stuff is beyond my comprehension, I = spent 2 hours trying to figure it out. I still don't know how to. = Please tell me what I need to do. I have 2 drives. 1 is 10Gb and I = want it partitioned/split up into 3 sections: 4 Gb for Linux, 3gb for = FreeBSD, and 3Gb for whatever other OS I choose to use. Then I have a = 13gb for Windows. Please tell me how i would do this. Thank you. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFFFE5.C05BD260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFFFE5.C05BD260-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 3: 2: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5992137B8FA; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 03:02:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA44560; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 03:02:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 03:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200008071002.DAA44560@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/16843: Knob for release/Makefile to prevent deleting docproj distfiles Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Knob for release/Makefile to prevent deleting docproj distfiles Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Aug 7 03:00:51 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: The doc folks will be interested in this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=16843 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 4:10: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B49E37B72F for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 04:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA55761; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 04:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 110AC37BD8D; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 04:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20000807110326.110AC37BD8D@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 04:03:26 -0700 (PDT) From: wosch@freebsd.org To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/20453: wrong character set for chinese FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 20453 >Category: docs >Synopsis: wrong character set for chinese FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Aug 07 04:10:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: wolfram schneider >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The chinese FAQ at http://www.freebsd.org/zh/FAQ/ use the wrong character set iso 8859-1 >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: see the japanese FAQ how to set the character set, e.g. in the HTML header should be a line like: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 4:24:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mout01.kundenserver.de (mout01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADF537BD6E; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 04:24:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from expo2000@exhibitioncenter.de) Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.kundenserver.de) by mout01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13Ll17-0005cV-00; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:24:25 +0200 Received: from pd4b9dc8e.dip.t-dialin.net ([212.185.220.142] helo=t-dsl-pc) by mrvdom00.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13Ll0y-0002yu-00; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:24:16 +0200 From: expo2000 To: BUSREISEN Subject: Expo2000,privat accommodation,excelent city location. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:23:44 X-Mailer: email4you 1.2 build 19 Windows 98 - Version 4.10.2222 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Expo 2000 Hannover

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· You decided what would you like to book and let us know
· We send you contract (booking form), which you send us back with your signature per fax
· After receiving the completed form, We will send you a written confirmation of your reservation, and all the information you'll need upon your arrival
· Naturally, you can contact us any time
Your arrival and Stay
· You will find your housing without any problems with all the information that you will receive prior to your arrival
· The lodger of your housing space will receive you and show you the room or apartment
· You can arrange your exeptions about cleaning the rooms, changing the bed linen or eating with the lodgers
Payment
Terms and conditions of booking;
To make a reservation you have to:
1. fill out the enclosed booking form and send it per fax 0049 511 3908487
2. We will send you confirmation
3. Make a payment (the full payment) by Mrzyglocki Edward at day of confirmation.(for legality purposes this applies only to non-german-visitors)
4. Your reservation will be guaranteed after the payment has been received
Mr Mrzyglocki is entitled for payment in the full amount regardless if the reserved rooms have or have not been used (for that duration). Cancellation of a reservation is impossible due to the very short notice periods prior and during the exhibition

Best regards

Edward


Please contact us only by Fax: 0049 511 3908487
or Tel
Tel.0049 511 666710
Tel.0049 172 6730588
Tel.0049 172 4949996




To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 4:28: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9B737B683; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 04:27:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from expo2000@exhibitioncenter.de) Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13Ll3E-0001R4-00; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:26:36 +0200 Received: from pd4b9dc8e.dip.t-dialin.net ([212.185.220.142] helo=t-dsl-pc) by mrvdom00.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13Ll3B-0002yu-00; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:26:33 +0200 From: expo2000 To: BUSREISEN Subject: Expo2000,privat accommodation,excelent city location. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:26:01 X-Mailer: email4you 1.2 build 19 Windows 98 - Version 4.10.2222 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Expo 2000 Hannover

Rates for private accommodation provided by Edward

Private rooms in the city. Excellent city location (good bus/tram connections to the Expo 2000 Hannover exhibition center)

Rates and conditions:
· Rooms
Single room: DM 140,00 per night
Double room: DM 220,00 per night
Triple room: DM 280,00 per night
· Apartment-rooms
Apartment-Single room: DM 160,00 per night
Apartment-Double room: DM 240,00 per night
Apartment-Triple room: DM 300,00 per night

What you can rent!

· Rooms
You rent a single or two or three bedroom apartment in a private apartment or house. The lodgers are also living there during your stay
· Apartment-rooms
You rent a single or two or three bed apartment-rooms. With this choice, you can rent a complete apartment, it means that the lodgers move out during your stay so that you live in the apartment on your own or you are living with other Exibition visitors
How do you rent a housing space?
· First, you send us an inquiry without obligation for some housing space in Hannover (arrival and departure date, single or double room or apartment, how many person?)
· Next we will send you an offer without obligation
· You decided what would you like to book and let us know
· We send you contract (booking form), which you send us back with your signature per fax
· After receiving the completed form, We will send you a written confirmation of your reservation, and all the information you'll need upon your arrival
· Naturally, you can contact us any time
Your arrival and Stay
· You will find your housing without any problems with all the information that you will receive prior to your arrival
· The lodger of your housing space will receive you and show you the room or apartment
· You can arrange your exeptions about cleaning the rooms, changing the bed linen or eating with the lodgers
Payment
Terms and conditions of booking;
To make a reservation you have to:
1. fill out the enclosed booking form and send it per fax 0049 511 3908487
2. We will send you confirmation
3. Make a payment (the full payment) by Mrzyglocki Edward at day of confirmation.(for legality purposes this applies only to non-german-visitors)
4. Your reservation will be guaranteed after the payment has been received
Mr Mrzyglocki is entitled for payment in the full amount regardless if the reserved rooms have or have not been used (for that duration). Cancellation of a reservation is impossible due to the very short notice periods prior and during the exhibition

Best regards

Edward


Please contact us only by Fax: 0049 511 3908487
or Tel
Tel.0049 511 666710
Tel.0049 172 6730588
Tel.0049 172 4949996




To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 5:19:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web6404.mail.yahoo.com (web6404.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.22.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A90FF37B54B for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 05:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmrigc1@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000807121914.29088.qmail@web6404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.134.252.78] by web6404.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 Aug 2000 05:19:14 PDT Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 05:19:14 -0700 (PDT) From: rashid mahmood Subject: Reqd. BSD Handbook To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear sir hi, i am Rashid from Pakistan. i need your BSD handbook and it's installer. please send this handbook and installer on my home address. i shall be very thankful to you for this act of your kindness. your's sincerely Rashid Mahmood Raja H.N0 49/A-8 Dk. Fazal Ellahi, Harley street Rawalpindi, Pakistan. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 5:59:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.ats.rochester.edu (mail1.ats.rochester.edu [128.151.224.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7100137B80B for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 05:59:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dh003i@mail.rochester.edu) Received: from localhost (dh003i@localhost) by mail1.ats.rochester.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e77D0q56420774 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:00:52 -0400 From: David Heinrich X-Sender: dh003i@mail1.ats.rochester.edu To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD + BeOS + WinME?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm enquiring about a tri boot with three OS'(FreeBSD, BeOS, and WinME); does FreeBSD allow this tri boot with WinME?? I've heard that WinME doesn't support booting to MS-DOS, thus doesn't allow for other OS' to be loaded...can FreeBSD be loaded alongside a system with WinME on it?? David J. Heinrich dh003i@mail.rochester.edu dh003i@yahoo.com heinrich@rochester.rr.com "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face -- forever." -- Orwell, *1984* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 11: 0:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6A537BE8A for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA75492 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008071800.LAA75492@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/07/23] docs/20117 doc *printf manpage doesn't document %n 2 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [2000/02/20] docs/16843 doc Knob for release/Makefile to prevent dele o [2000/03/18] docs/17470 doc Missing man page: pthread_yield f [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/03/25] docs/17598 doc installworld over NFS documentation no lo o [2000/05/03] docs/18379 doc Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo o [2000/05/19] docs/18674 doc ntptime.htm and ntptime.8 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook o [2000/06/25] docs/19507 doc Mailing-list search at www.freebsd.org re o [2000/07/10] docs/19818 doc /usr/share/man/man8/sysinstall.8 missing o [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/07/17] docs/19995 doc keymap(5) missing from manual in 3.4-RELE o [2000/07/20] docs/20067 doc src/sbin/nologin/nologin.5 is bad place o [2000/07/30] docs/20298 doc man 5 keymap missing in 4.1 (Stable) o [2000/08/02] docs/20369 doc [patch] mountd.8 missing cross-references o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/06] docs/20447 doc forcing NFS exports to be updated o [2000/08/07] docs/20453 doc wrong character set for chinese FAQ 24 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 12:53:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F342E37BF38 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:53:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pniner@bitmo.com) Received: from niner by dfw7sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: users.bitmo.com [63.97.232.5]) id QQjbgh25391 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:53:28 GMT From: "Pete Niner" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:51:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe -- Pete Niner System Administrator pniner@bitmo.com 415-920-7206 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 15:26:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from medusa.mminternet.com (medusa.mminternet.com [207.175.72.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C97437B8DF for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 15:26:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from campbell@mminternet.com) Received: from cleanco ([64.148.10.36]) by medusa.mminternet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA30531 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 15:24:14 -0700 Message-ID: <001301c000be$c14e6320$240a9440@internetconnect.com> Reply-To: "Robert C" From: "Robert C" To: Subject: handbook Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 15:27:48 -0700 Organization: CleanCo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C00084.0B2DAE00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C00084.0B2DAE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there any copies of the handbook in plain text? I want to print it = out and the little html pages are annoying. Thanks for your time, Robert ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C00084.0B2DAE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there any copies of the handbook in = plain=20 text?  I want to print it out and the little html pages are=20 annoying.
 
Thanks for your time,
 
Robert
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C00084.0B2DAE00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 18: 2:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (luna.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041E437BC2F for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:02:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9679031C7; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:02:44 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Robert C Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: handbook Message-ID: <20000807180243.A34835@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@jmock.com References: <001301c000be$c14e6320$240a9440@internetconnect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001301c000be$c14e6320$240a9440@internetconnect.com>; from campbell@mminternet.com on Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 03:27:48PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ Please don't send HTML mail to the list. ] On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 at 15:27:48 -0700, Robert C wrote: > Is there any copies of the handbook in plain text? I want to print > it out and the little html pages are annoying. I've just generated a copy for you -- there's also a gzipped copy. You can grab it/them from http://soupnazi.org/FreeBSD/handbook.txt{.gz}. Alternatively, you can order a printed copy from the FreeBSD Mall at http://www.freebsdmall.com/books/index.phtml#bsdhandbk. It's also available at Amazon.com, and with any luck, your local Borders, Barnes and Noble, or CompUSA. - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 18: 3:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (luna.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE59437B5F4 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:03:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B00A31C7; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:03:16 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: rashid mahmood Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reqd. BSD Handbook Message-ID: <20000807180316.B34835@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@jmock.com References: <20000807121914.29088.qmail@web6404.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000807121914.29088.qmail@web6404.mail.yahoo.com>; from rmrigc1@yahoo.com on Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 05:19:14AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 at 05:19:14 -0700, rashid mahmood wrote: > Dear sir hi, > i am Rashid from Pakistan. i need your BSD handbook and it's > installer. please send this handbook and installer on my home > address. i shall be very thankful to you for this act of your > kindness. http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/ - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 18:37: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from icrsun.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp (icrsun.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4D637B661 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:36:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xuxw@icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from icrhome.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp (icrhome.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.232.111]) by icrsun.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) with ESMTP id KAA25322 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:36:53 +0900 (JST) Received: from Xuxw (tbdhcp02.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.228.97]) by icrhome.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with SMTP id KAA2492396 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:36:53 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <000801c000d9$17bf7360$61e4529d@icrr.utokyo.ac.jp> From: =?gb2312?B?0O3Pzc7k?= To: Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:36:37 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C00124.877DE880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C00124.877DE880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 DQo= ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C00124.877DE880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMCBUcmFuc2l0aW9uYWwv L0VOIj4NCjxIVE1MPjxIRUFEPg0KPE1FVEEgY29udGVudD0idGV4dC9odG1sOyBjaGFyc2V0PWdi MjMxMiIgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj1Db250ZW50LVR5cGU+DQo8TUVUQSBjb250ZW50PSJNU0hUTUwgNS4w MC4yNjE0LjM1MDAiIG5hbWU9R0VORVJBVE9SPg0KPFNUWUxFPjwvU1RZTEU+DQo8L0hFQUQ+DQo8 Qk9EWSBiZ0NvbG9yPSNmZmZmZmY+DQo8RElWPiZuYnNwOzwvRElWPjwvQk9EWT48L0hUTUw+DQo= ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C00124.877DE880-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 19:10: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9C737B582 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA39667; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id DDC2237B587; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20000808020007.DDC2237B587@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:00:07 -0700 (PDT) From: andrew@cream.org To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/20476: Addition to bibliography Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 20476 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Addition to bibliography >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Aug 07 19:10:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrew Boothman >Release: 4.0-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Edinburgh University have a really good online reference for new UNIX users, I thought it might be good to add to the bibliography. Please check the Docbook before you commit - I don't do this stuff as often as I would like. Thanks! >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: diff for doc/en/books/handbook/bibliography/chapter.sgml 112a113,117 > Edinburgh University > has written an Online Guide > for newcomers to the UNIX environment. > > >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 19:40: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C500637B53C for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA42263; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200D337B534 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:39:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA66917 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:39:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from hellcat.itga.com.au (hellcat.itga.com.au [192.168.71.163]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19514; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:39:50 +1000 (EST) Received: (from gnb@localhost) by hellcat.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07171; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:39:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Message-Id: <200008080239.MAA07171@hellcat.itga.com.au> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:39:50 +1000 (EST) From: Gregory Bond To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/20477: [Patch] Document syslogd's special treatment of kern messages Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 20477 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Document syslogd's special treatment of kern messages >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Aug 07 19:40:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gregory Bond >Release: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: ITG Australia Limited >Environment: 4.1-Stable, syslog between two machines. >Description: Attempting to send syslog messages between two machines fails for messages for facility kern (e.g. output from IPFIREWALL or log_in_vain). This is because syslogd has an undocumented feature that treats all messages for kern. as if they were for user. unless the message comes directly from the kernel via the /dev/klog interface. >How-To-Repeat: Attempt to log kern.* to a remote machine. Note that packets are sent/received but never logged according to the receiving machine's .conf file. (See also line 541 of syslogd.c in RELENG_4.) >Fix: The attached patch (against RELENG_4) documents this behaviour in syslog.conf(5) and syslogd(8). Knowing this, the user can adjust the syslog.conf file on the loghost appropriately. (My apologies in advance for inappropriate macro usage, I'm really not a troff person!) Index: syslog.conf.5 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslog.conf.5,v retrieving revision 1.16 diff -u -r1.16 syslog.conf.5 --- syslog.conf.5 2000/03/01 14:08:36 1.16 +++ syslog.conf.5 2000/08/08 02:34:08 @@ -224,6 +224,24 @@ disables a particular .Em facility . .Pp +If a syslog message is received for the facility +.Em kern , +but is not received directly from the kernel via the +.Pa /dev/klog +device, then +.Xr syslogd +silently translates the facility to +.Em user . +In particular, this means that when sending kernel logging messages to +a remote loghost, they will be processed as facility +.Em user +on the remote system. +This also means it is not possible to inject +.Em kern +messages using the +.Xr logger 1 +or similar program. +.Pp The .Em action field of each line specifies the action to be taken when the Index: syslogd.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.8,v retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -r1.22 syslogd.8 --- syslogd.8 2000/03/01 14:08:36 1.22 +++ syslogd.8 2000/08/08 02:36:48 @@ -184,6 +184,14 @@ This priority code should map into the priorities defined in the include file .Aq Pa sys/syslog.h . +If the priority code maps to the facility +.Em kern , +but the message is not received via the +.Pa /dev/klog +device, then +.Nm +silently changes the facility code to +.Em user . .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width /var/run/syslog.pid -compact .It Pa /etc/syslog.conf >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 7 23: 1:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F43937BA2F; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 23:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA74578; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 23:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 23:01:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200008080601.XAA74578@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@cream.org, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/20476: Addition to bibliography Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Addition to bibliography State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 7 23:00:56 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20476 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 8 3:40:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D1237B629 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 03:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13M62S-000AiK-00; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:51:12 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13M62V-0000zi-00; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:51:15 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:51:15 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Jim Mock Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No index in The FreeBSD Handbook? Message-ID: <20000808105115.Q65753@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807173830.00b0adc0@mail.utexas.edu> <20000807181715.D34835@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000807181715.D34835@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [moved from -questions to -doc] Jim Mock wrote: > On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 at 17:40:55 -0500, Oscar Ricardo Silva wrote: >> We ordered several copies of The FreeBSD Handbook and received them >> today. This may be a minor thing but we noticed that there is no >> Index at the back of the book. Is this a mistake? On purpose? > > The reason there's no index is because there aren't any index tags in > the DocBook version of the handbook. This is something on the Doc > Project's todo list -- it's not a small task, So, what exactly needs doing to get an index? Just add some tag around bits which should be indexed, or is there more to it than that? (Of course, even that would be a tedious job, but at least people writing new text could add appropriate text if we knew what they were.) -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 8 10:26:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D40A37BDCA for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:26:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.89.61]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000808172558.WEQW16423.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain> for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:25:58 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02423 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:25:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:25:44 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Contradiction in the FDP-Primer? Message-ID: <20000808182543.G250@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just been tidying up some markup in the handbook using the FDP primer as a guide for the correct way to do things and came across what appears to be contradictions. 10.1.3.2. Special tags Some tags just don't follow the indenting rules of the previous section; and should always be left-aligned. ... also should be left-aligned when it wraps a or . These examples should be separated from the rest of the content by a blank line before and after. Yet earlier, in "Example 4-43. ", I see: Use: &prompt.user; man command The example above also highlights another apparent contradiction. This shows the use of and but in "3.1 Overview" it uses: More precisely, they need help identifying what is what. You or I can look at To remove /tmp/foo use rm(1). % rm /tmp/foo [snip] The previous example is actually represented in this document like this; To remove /tmp/foo use &man.rm.1;. rm /tmp/foo So, which is the correct (or preferred) way to show something like % rm /tmp/foo Note I'm not asking about displaying *interactive* stuff such as % ls file1 file2 file3 % su Password: type of thing as that always uses and to differentiate between user and program output text. -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 8 11:25:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E2237BD03; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA99597; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:24:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:24:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Mark Ovens Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Contradiction in the FDP-Primer? Message-ID: <20000808192434.B99380@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000808182543.G250@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000808182543.G250@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 06:25:44PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 06:25:44PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > Just been tidying up some markup in the handbook using the FDP primer > as a guide for the correct way to do things and came across what > appears to be contradictions. > > 10.1.3.2. Special tags > > Some tags just don't follow the indenting rules of the previous section; > and should always be left-aligned. Not sure when that crept in. IMHO it's wrong. #!/bin/sh echo Hello, world is how I'd do things. Feel free to nuke 10.1.3.2. > The example above also highlights another apparent contradiction. This > shows the use of and but in "3.1 Overview" it > uses: > > More precisely, they need help identifying what is what. You or I can look at > > To remove /tmp/foo use rm(1). > > % rm /tmp/foo > > [snip] > > The previous example is actually represented in this document like this; > > To remove /tmp/foo use &man.rm.1;. > > rm /tmp/foo > > So, which is the correct (or preferred) way to show something like > > % rm /tmp/foo 3.1 is wrong, I'm fixing it now. Use and N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 8 11:25:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C410C37BF40; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA99543; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:18:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:18:02 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Jim Mock , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No index in The FreeBSD Handbook? Message-ID: <20000808191802.A99380@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807173830.00b0adc0@mail.utexas.edu> <20000807181715.D34835@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <20000808105115.Q65753@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000808105115.Q65753@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>; from ben@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 10:51:15AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 10:51:15AM +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote: > > On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 at 17:40:55 -0500, Oscar Ricardo Silva wrote: > >> We ordered several copies of The FreeBSD Handbook and received them > >> today. This may be a minor thing but we noticed that there is no > >> Index at the back of the book. Is this a mistake? On purpose? > > > > The reason there's no index is because there aren't any index tags in > > the DocBook version of the handbook. This is something on the Doc > > Project's todo list -- it's not a small task, > > So, what exactly needs doing to get an index? Just add some tag around > bits which should be indexed, or is there more to it than that? There's more to it than that. I understand (although it's not something I've personally done) that there's an art to indexing. For example, there's little point in indexing every occurence of the word "port" in the Handbook, to try and direct people to information about ports. There are then some hoops to jump through to get the index included in the document. More details at http://www.nwalsh.com/docbook/dsssl/doc/indexing.html *Please*, feel free to play around with this -- it's been on my list for a while, and other stuff keeps pushing it out of the way. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 8 12:13:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666DB37B59F for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:13:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id VAA18074 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 21:13:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA00968 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 21:05:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 21:05:47 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: [gummels@alf.dec.com: FreeBSD Homepage] Message-ID: <20000808210547.B934@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from Travis Gummels ----- Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 09:29:03 -0400 From: Travis Gummels X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; OSF1 V5.0 alpha) To: wosch@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Homepage Hello, Thought I might make a suggestion if thats ok. First paragraph under What is FreeBSD?, might want to change DEC Alpha to DEC/Compaq Alpha or something like that. Thanks Travis ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 8 15:25:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFEE37BAAE; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13MH4u-000BlS-00; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 22:38:28 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13MH4x-000AC7-00; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 22:38:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:38:31 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No index in The FreeBSD Handbook? Message-ID: <20000808223831.T65753@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807173830.00b0adc0@mail.utexas.edu> <20000807181715.D34835@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <20000808105115.Q65753@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <20000808191802.A99380@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000808191802.A99380@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > There's more to it than that. I understand (although it's not something > I've personally done) that there's an art to indexing. For example, there's > little point in indexing every occurence of the word "port" in the Handbook, > to try and direct people to information about ports. > > There are then some hoops to jump through to get the index included in the > document. > > More details at > > http://www.nwalsh.com/docbook/dsssl/doc/indexing.html > > *Please*, feel free to play around with this -- it's been on my list for a > while, and other stuff keeps pushing it out of the way. Hmm. Well, it all seems to work. Miracle. :-) I used this patch to doc.docbook.mk, so you can just set HAS_INDEX and have stuff done for you, as long as you add the appropriate entities to include genindex.sgml. (This patch breaks if you do 'make obj' before building to keep /usr/doc clean of crap. I don't know how to fix that, since you need an entity like and genindex.sgml needs to be created in /usr/obj/usr/doc/foo, not /usr/doc/foo. I also didn't test the patch with anything other than the default formats for the handbook (html-split).) Now, the harder part, is going through the Handbook and FAQ, adding the tags. At least if we got the basic support for indexes committed, people could think about indexing any new stuff they add. Index: doc.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.16 diff -u -r1.16 doc.docbook.mk --- doc.docbook.mk 2000/07/18 16:30:45 1.16 +++ doc.docbook.mk 2000/08/08 21:28:11 @@ -25,6 +25,8 @@ # them need to be generated. Changing any file in # SRCS causes the documents to be rebuilt. # +# HAS_INDEX If defined, the document has an index. +# # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # @@ -63,6 +65,10 @@ KNOWN_FORMATS= html html.tar html-split html-split.tar txt rtf ps pdf tex dvi tar pdb +.if defined(HAS_INDEX) +_genindex_sgml= genindex.sgml +.endif + # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Look at ${FORMATS} and work out which documents need to be generated. @@ -170,14 +176,22 @@ .MAIN: all all: ${_docs} + +.if defined(HAS_INDEX) +${_genindex_sgml}: ${SRCS} ${LIB_IMAGES} + touch ${_genindex_sgml} + ${JADE} -V html-index -ioutput.html ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLHTML} -t sgml ${MASTERDOC} + perl ${PREFIX}/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/bin/collateindex.pl \ + HTML.index > ${_genindex_sgml} +.endif -index.html HTML.manifest: ${SRCS} ${LIB_IMAGES} +index.html HTML.manifest: ${SRCS} ${LIB_IMAGES} ${_genindex_sgml} ${JADE} -V html-manifest -ioutput.html ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLHTML} -t sgml ${MASTERDOC} .if !defined(NO_TIDY) -tidy -i -m -f /dev/null ${TIDYFLAGS} `xargs < HTML.manifest` .endif -${DOC}.html: ${SRCS} ${LIB_IMAGES} +${DOC}.html: ${SRCS} ${LIB_IMAGES} ${_genindex_sgml} ${JADE} -ioutput.html -V nochunks ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLHTML} -t sgml ${MASTERDOC} > ${.TARGET} .if !defined(NO_TIDY) -tidy -i -m -f /dev/null ${TIDYFLAGS} ${.TARGET} @@ -200,10 +214,10 @@ ${.CURDIR:T}.pdb: ${DOC}.pdb ln -f ${DOC}.pdb ${.CURDIR}.pdb -${DOC}.rtf: ${SRCS} +${DOC}.rtf: ${SRCS} ${_genindex_sgml} ${JADE} -Vrtf-backend -ioutput.print ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLPRINT} -t rtf -o ${.TARGET} ${MASTERDOC} -${DOC}.tex: ${SRCS} +${DOC}.tex: ${SRCS} ${_genindex_sgml} ${JADE} -Vtex-backend -ioutput.print ${JADEOPTS} -d ${DSLPRINT} -t tex -o ${.TARGET} ${MASTERDOC} ${DOC}.dvi: ${DOC}.tex -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 8 15:42:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EB537B64E; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:42:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13MI4c-0005Ao-00; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 00:42:14 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:42:14 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No index in The FreeBSD Handbook? Message-ID: <20000809004213.A19839@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807173830.00b0adc0@mail.utexas.edu> <20000807181715.D34835@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <20000808105115.Q65753@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <20000808191802.A99380@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000808223831.T65753@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000808223831.T65753@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>; from ben@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 10:38:31PM +0100 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue 2000-08-08 (22:38), Ben Smithurst wrote: > > There are then some hoops to jump through to get the index included in the > > document. > > > > More details at > > > > http://www.nwalsh.com/docbook/dsssl/doc/indexing.html > > > > *Please*, feel free to play around with this -- it's been on my list for a > > while, and other stuff keeps pushing it out of the way. > > Hmm. Well, it all seems to work. Miracle. :-) > > I used this patch to doc.docbook.mk, so you can just set HAS_INDEX and > have stuff done for you, as long as you add the appropriate entities to > include genindex.sgml. (This patch breaks if you do 'make obj' before > building to keep /usr/doc clean of crap. I don't know how to fix that, > since you need an entity like > > > > and genindex.sgml needs to be created in /usr/obj/usr/doc/foo, not > /usr/doc/foo. I also didn't test the patch with anything other than the > default formats for the handbook (html-split).) Cool, I was wondering when someone was going to work through it. I have a bunch of doc make(1) patches coming up (hopefully getting olink working, but definitely fixing the images out-of-date stuff and "external" documents), so don't commit this too soon. (: In fact, it's a holiday down here tomorrow, so I'll be happy to review this and commit it, if possible, with my stuff after my little regression suite gets done with it. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 8 22:12:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web5201.mail.yahoo.com (web5201.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98F2137BAEF for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:12:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ravirrp@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000809051235.5069.qmail@web5201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.197.176.52] by web5201.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 22:12:35 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:12:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Raviprakash ramachandra Subject: ravi To: question@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear sir/madam Reference for question about freeBSD I am an officer (R.RAVIPRAKASH) in Yukthi Technology as System Administrator in Unix I am having some question regarding accounting though I referred the textbook I was not able to get it . The question's are as follow 1. CPU accounting 2. How time accounting is created for the sure(per-person) or group. 3. printer usage 4. How required amount of memory is allowed for the user or group. 5. Disk quotas Please send me the details of above mentioned or please send the handbook of freebsd at the earliest __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 3:43: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E8737B9A3 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 03:42:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@ark.cris.net) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA85078; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:41:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA59572; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:42:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from phantom) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:41:59 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: honey@go.ru Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20000809134159.A54828@ark.cris.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from honey@go.ru on Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 09:59:41PM +0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 09:59:41PM +0400, honey@go.ru wrote: > Zdravstvuite! > Izvinite pozaluista za bespokoistvo!!!! > Mne ochen! nuzna vasha pomosh! > Ya ne mogu uztanovit^ na 8concol^ X-Window This is english language mailing list and don't send such letters to here. Please use ru-freebsd-questions@freebsd.ru instead. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ /* Sysadmin/Developer && phantom@sms.umc.com.ua */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 3:48: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from horns.ctrllab.com (horns.ctrllab.com [203.63.54.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906CF37BA00 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 03:47:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckd@horns.ctrllab.com) Received: by horns.ctrllab.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B000476FF; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:47:50 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 23:10:58 +1000 From: Chuck Dale To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Some Thoughts on the Handbook Message-ID: <20000808231058.S16708@aphid.net> Mail-Followup-To: Chuck Dale , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Most Respected Documenters, I just finished reading (almost) all the Handbook. I have a few thoughts - take them for what they are worth. A lot of things would be more useful if I just went and did them myself but no I'll just talk. Organisation ------------ The handbook seems to be organised by how much material has been contributed on a given subject rather than on what would be useful to the "typical" FreeBSD user. In a similar vein, hyperlinks aren't used to best advantage - there's a lot more reading required than simply to find what you're looking for. But then again, is a book format even the best arrangement of all this information? Perhaps the facilities of hypertext could allow better navigation of the material. Networking ---------- SERIAL Is it just me or are text terminals rare these days? If so, I am assuming that most people who will be setting them up will already know most of how to do it. Obviously some people will still be interested, but I'm sure the number of people using FreeBSD to do networking far outweighs those doing serial comms (except modems obviously, but they are covered in the PPP section). So why not farm off the Serial Communications section to a separate guide or at least take it out of #1 position in the Networking section. ETHERNET Why is there so little on setting up a FreeBSD box to operate on a LAN? Or did I miss it. ifconfig, route, NIC drivers etc. Kernel ------ Need more information on KLDs/LKMs - whatever they are called. I understand module operations in Linux but after reading the handbook all I know is that the kldstat command (or something similar) lists the currently running modules. Even a little section referring to appropriate manpages and commands and directories in the source would be useful. SSH --- The instructions for getting OpenSSL installed (particularly international versions) are very unclear. It doesn't actually say what to do - it explains lots of issues but that's about it. This would have to be a very common thing for people to be doing. Packages/Ports -------------- The explanation of ports is very good. Yet there is almost no explanation of packages and how they relate to the ports. I understand that the packages are simply created before distribution by doing a "make package" in the ports tree but I only know this from using OpenBSD. Example Installations --------------------- It would be very useful to provide a section that gives example installations - for example installing a FreeBSD dedicated web server, installing as a gateway, as a workstation etc. This would simply provide pointers to more information. In gateway you would have references to the firewall section, networking section etc. Otherwise it is a long slog picking out the bits of the manual which are applicable. I was gleeful watching the 700 pages of Handbook pour out of the printer, but as I read I was disappointed that the system was not explained clearly and some things were skipped altogether. I really like the idea of a comprehensive guide (the Handbook) to a comprehensive system (FreeBSD) as opposed to a haphazard guide (LDP) to a haphazard system (Linux), but there is still a ways to go. (Of course..) Thanks for listening! Chuck [ charles hamilton dale ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 3:51:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DA937B62D for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 03:51:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA00996 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 03:51:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 03:51:16 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Porters handbook missing for docs webpage Message-ID: <20000809035116.A986@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Can a link to the Porter's Handbook be added to http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html ? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 4:30:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7293437BA29; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 04:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.88.237]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000809113039.UOM26680.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:30:39 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00740; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:30:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:30:16 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: "David O'Brien" Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Porters handbook missing for docs webpage Message-ID: <20000809123016.A251@parish> References: <20000809035116.A986@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000809035116.A986@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 03:51:16AM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 03:51:16AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > Hello, > > Can a link to the Porter's Handbook be added to > http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html ? > I'll look at this. I think there is more tidying/re-structuring required here, for instance the FDP Primer comes under "books" in the cvs tree but appears under "tutorials" in the generated docs, similarly with the PPP Primer. My feeling is that the Porters & Developers Handbooks, and the FDP & PPP Primers should be classified as "books" and should appear as such the generated docs and as such should have a "top-level" link from http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html rather than from the tutorials section. Anyone have any views on this? > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 5:55: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC32537B598 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 05:55:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.88.237]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000809125502.BUFC16423.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain> for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:55:02 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01061 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:54:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:54:41 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re-structuring of the docs Message-ID: <20000809135441.D251@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This was prompted by a requested to provide a link to the Porters Handbook from http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html. I had also started working on producing a master index[1] for the docs, which got temporarily abandoned due to a shed-load of other work, and this was in part what I was going to address. Maybe now is the time to do some more work on this. The FDP Primer and the PPP Primer are under books/ in the cvs tree yet are installed under tutorials. Looking at both docs they are sufficiently large and well structured enough to be called handbooks in their own right, like the Porters Handbook. I propose that we rename these docs; The FreeBSD Documentation Handbook (fdp-handbook) and The FreeBSD PPP Handbook (ppp-handbook). Also it would seem appropriate to merge the tutorial on setting up and using a firewall with a PPP connection into the PPP {Primer,Handbook}. Comments/criticisms/suggestions? (flames > /dev/null) [1] There is a current thread bemoaning the lack of an index in the printed version of the handbook. I am referring to a top-level index, i.e. similar to that you find at the front of a printed book, not a word index as found at the back, which would be a "homepage" for all the docs. -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 10:11: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr2.ruhr.de [141.39.224.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB78D37BEFD for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 74728 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 2000 17:12:44 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13410; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:11:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:11:20 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: Ben Smithurst Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: TAB vs 8. Spaces (was Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml) Message-ID: <20000809191120.G3413@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <200008051641.JAA35521@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200008051641.JAA35521@freefall.freebsd.org>; from ben@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 09:41:45AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 09:41:45AM -0700, Ben Smithurst wrote: > Major cleanup of markup in the FAQ. This has been needed for a > long time... No content changes are in this commit. I promised that I would fix the formatting of the FAQ after Ben fixed the markup. The diff is ready and can be downloaded from http://www.ruhr.de/home/nathan/FreeBSD/faq-diff.gz MD5 (faq-diff.gz) = 21ee0457524da69d9f417e1fba73d40e There's just one small problem: bash# cvs diff -u doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml | wc 18733 98512 815065 bash# wc doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 11178 44894 458998 doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml In other words, two line of diffs for each line of the FAQ ;-( That's why I've uploaded a fixed version as: http://www.ruhr.de/home/nathan/FreeBSD/faq-formatted.gz MD5 (faq-formatted.gz) = 11e04f81f0543e2d897caa95c90a7d4c I've tested the diff by rebuilding the handbook and comparing the HTML outputs generated from the two versions. The most obvious changes are a couple additional empty paragraphs (

) caused by the all new style for . The size of the diff worried me. The main reason is the amount of TABs in revision 1.87. The FDP Primer demands spaces for indentation and my tool sticks to that rule. What's the general opinion about using TABs as a shortcut for indentation? /s/Udo -- Now they show you how detergents take out bloodstains; a pretty violent image there. I think if you've got a T-shirt with a bloodstain all over it, maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid of the body before you do the wash. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 11:13:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CABC37BED9; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:13:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13MaLh-0007pR-00; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 20:13:05 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:13:05 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Mark Ovens Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re-structuring of the docs Message-ID: <20000809201305.A30032@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000809135441.D251@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000809135441.D251@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 01:54:41PM +0100 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed 2000-08-09 (13:54), Mark Ovens wrote: > I had also started working on producing a master index[1] for the > docs PR 14165. > The FDP Primer and the PPP Primer are under books/ in the cvs tree yet > are installed under tutorials. Looking at both docs they are > sufficiently large and well structured enough to be called handbooks > in their own right, like the Porters Handbook. "Primers" are things which cover a specific area at depth. "Handbooks" cover largish areas without much depth. > Also it would seem appropriate to merge the tutorial on setting up and > using a firewall with a PPP connection into the PPP {Primer,Handbook}. I wouldn't think so. I'd prefer to see a "Network [Administrator] Handbook" to cover that. That tutorial specifically doesn't talk about ppp issues. I do propose that we set up the docs in the same tree as they're installed on home systems on the web, so (for one) links work. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 11:17:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D803B37BEB5; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:17:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13MaPg-0007q2-00; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 20:17:12 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:17:12 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: Ben Smithurst , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TAB vs 8. Spaces (was Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml) Message-ID: <20000809201712.B30032@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200008051641.JAA35521@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000809191120.G3413@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000809191120.G3413@nathan.ruhr.de>; from ue@nathan.ruhr.de on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 07:11:20PM +0200 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed 2000-08-09 (19:11), Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > The size of the diff worried me. The main reason is the amount of > TABs in revision 1.87. The FDP Primer demands spaces for indentation > and my tool sticks to that rule. > > What's the general opinion about using TABs as a shortcut for indentation? It's spaces until you fill a tab, then it's a tab. 2 spaces, 4 spaces, 6 spaces, tab, tab and 2 spaces, tab and 4 spaces, tab and 6 spaces, 2 tabs, 2 tabs and 2 spaces. Actually, I'm not at all sure if emacs does it this way. Vim does, though. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 11:50: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.6.9.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCF137BBF3; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from andom1.an.hp.com (andom1.an.hp.com [15.4.128.104]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981A2125; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:49:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by andom1.an.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D1883; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id LAA01748; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008091849.LAA01748@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Udo Erdelhoff , Ben Smithurst , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TAB vs 8. Spaces (was Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml) Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Aug 2000 20:17:12 +0200." <20000809201712.B30032@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 11:49:51 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Wed 2000-08-09 (19:11), Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > The size of the diff worried me. The main reason is the amount of > > TABs in revision 1.87. The FDP Primer demands spaces for indentation > > and my tool sticks to that rule. Here, "cvs diff -b" is your friend ("-b" ignores whitespace differences). I'll let others speak on the validity of using tabs vs. spaces. > > What's the general opinion about using TABs as a shortcut for indentation? > > It's spaces until you fill a tab, then it's a tab. > > 2 spaces, 4 spaces, 6 spaces, tab, tab and 2 spaces, tab and 4 spaces, > tab and 6 spaces, 2 tabs, 2 tabs and 2 spaces. Yes, this is the (correct) rule, unlike various horribly broken PC editors and IDEs. A tab character is supposed to go to the next 8-character column boundary. > Actually, I'm not at all sure if emacs does it this way. Vim does, > though. Emacs does it this way by default. You can also tell Emacs to use only spaces (no tabs), though. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 12:22:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr2.ruhr.de [141.39.224.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3B5437BE82 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:22:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 92594 invoked by alias); 9 Aug 2000 19:23:58 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16371; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:20:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:20:25 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: Darryl Okahata Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TAB vs 8. Spaces (was Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml) Message-ID: <20000809212025.H3413@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <20000809201712.B30032@mithrandr.moria.org> <200008091849.LAA01748@mina.soco.agilent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200008091849.LAA01748@mina.soco.agilent.com>; from darrylo@soco.agilent.com on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 11:49:51AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 11:49:51AM -0700, Darryl Okahata wrote: > > On Wed 2000-08-09 (19:11), Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > > The size of the diff worried me. The main reason is the amount of > > > TABs in revision 1.87. The FDP Primer demands spaces for indentation > > > and my tool sticks to that rule. > > Here, "cvs diff -b" is your friend ("-b" ignores whitespace > differences). I'll let others speak on the validity of using tabs > vs. spaces. The purpose of the diff is to fix the FAQ's indentations and formatting. Some of the neccessary changes are lost if I use diff -b. >> [2 spaces, 4 spaces, 6 spaces, TAB, TAB + 2spaces, ...] > Yes, this is the (correct) rule, unlike various horribly broken PC > editors and IDEs. A tab character is supposed to go to the next > 8-character column boundary. That's the way I'd use spaces and TABs in every document that's not an SGML source for the F(G)DP. The FDP primer and the examples in it don't use TABs and the section about indentation talks about adding/removing 2 spaces for every indentation level. > > Actually, I'm not at all sure if emacs does it this way. Vim does, > > though. > > Emacs does it this way by default. You can also tell Emacs to use only > spaces (no tabs), though. The sample settings for vim (doc/share/sgml/vim) enforce "spaces only" for .sgml/.html/.ent-files. These contradicting signals are one of the main reasons for my question. /s/Udo -- Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled knife whilst burning *black* candles. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 12:34: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6C937B5EB for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:33:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13MbbX-00088l-00; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:33:31 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:33:31 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: Darryl Okahata , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TAB vs 8. Spaces (was Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml) Message-ID: <20000809213331.A31191@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000809201712.B30032@mithrandr.moria.org> <200008091849.LAA01748@mina.soco.agilent.com> <20000809212025.H3413@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000809212025.H3413@nathan.ruhr.de>; from ue@nathan.ruhr.de on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 09:20:25PM +0200 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed 2000-08-09 (21:20), Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > >> [2 spaces, 4 spaces, 6 spaces, TAB, TAB + 2spaces, ...] > > > Yes, this is the (correct) rule, unlike various horribly broken PC > > editors and IDEs. A tab character is supposed to go to the next > > 8-character column boundary. > > That's the way I'd use spaces and TABs in every document that's not an SGML > source for the F(G)DP. The FDP primer and the examples in it don't use > TABs and the section about indentation talks about adding/removing 2 > spaces for every indentation level. Er, yes, it does use tabs. Go to line 67 of fdp-primer/book.sgml. Not that's a tab, not 8 spaces. > The sample settings for vim (doc/share/sgml/vim) enforce "spaces only" > for .sgml/.html/.ent-files. No, they don't. They're based on settings I sent to Jeroen, and which I use myself. In short, ts=8 sw=2 sts=2: tabstop at 8 spaces, but insert soft-tabstops of 2 spaces when you press tab, and shift width two at a time (with << and >>). > These contradicting signals are one of the main reasons for my question. I think this is a documentation problem. *grin* Maybe the best thing to do is to document that that is how things work. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 12:38:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas1tx.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1tx.cos.agilent.com [192.6.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E634437B6D9 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:38:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from andom1.an.hp.com (andom1.an.hp.com [15.4.128.104]) by msgbas1tx.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D951A5; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:38:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by andom1.an.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0E181; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id MAA05597; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008091938.MAA05597@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TAB vs 8. Spaces (was Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml) Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:20:25 +0200." <20000809212025.H3413@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:38:26 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > The sample settings for vim (doc/share/sgml/vim) enforce "spaces only" > for .sgml/.html/.ent-files. If people decide that tabs should not be used, here is the magic code to tell XEmacs/Emacs to use only spaces when editing sgml and html documents. Put the following code into your ~/.emacs file and restart XEmacs/Emacs: (defun sgml-no-tabs () (let () (setq indent-tabs-mode nil) )) (add-hook 'sgml-mode-hook 'sgml-no-tabs) (add-hook 'html-mode-hook 'sgml-no-tabs) -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 13:19:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EC937B6D1 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13MbCP-000DnY-00; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 20:07:33 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13MbCR-000MvD-00; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 20:07:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:07:35 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TAB vs 8. Spaces (was Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml) Message-ID: <20000809200735.G48327@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <200008051641.JAA35521@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000809191120.G3413@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000809191120.G3413@nathan.ruhr.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > The size of the diff worried me. The main reason is the amount of > TABs in revision 1.87. Are you sure? ben@magnesium:~/bsdwork/FAQ$ diff -ubB book.sgml faq-formatted | wc -l 16935 ben@magnesium:~/bsdwork/FAQ$ diff -u book.sgml faq-formatted | wc -l 18721 i.e. even ignoring white space changes it's still pretty damn big. :-( -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 14:27: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E42037BA28 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:26:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from whackstr@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net ([63.205.176.90]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FZ100ECDMLLQX@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 14:01:18 -0700 From: Kevin G Subject: Frontpage Port To: doc@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <3991C69E.4D0446EE@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am pretty much new to UNIX of any flavor but things were progressing pretty well until I tried to install Apache with Front page extensions. I am sorry but I am so new I don't fully understand the instructions to "submit a bug report on this with the send-pr(1) command" When making I received error messages 4 and 1 respectively. I am using Freebsd 3.1 installed from CD (no upgrades) and used the following port ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/www/apache13-fp.tar obtained from http://www.freebsd.org/ports/www.html Here is a screen shot minus the verbose (successful) comments which preceded the screeching halt. make ===> Patching for apache_1.3.12 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for apache_1.3.12 Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. 4 out of 4 hunks ignored--saving rejects to configure.rej *** Error code 4 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Thanks, Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 16:36:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5364B37B5FF for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:36:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.88.132]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000809233625.GOVA26680.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:36:25 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA01099; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:36:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:36:22 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re-structuring of the docs Message-ID: <20000810003622.B251@parish> References: <20000809135441.D251@parish> <20000809201305.A30032@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000809201305.A30032@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 08:13:05PM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 08:13:05PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > On Wed 2000-08-09 (13:54), Mark Ovens wrote: > > I had also started working on producing a master index[1] for the > > docs > > PR 14165. > Hmm, I had been discussing this with Nik (a few months ago) and he never mentioned this PR (he knows about it 'coz he responded to it). OK, I guess I'll leave his alone then. > > The FDP Primer and the PPP Primer are under books/ in the cvs tree yet > > are installed under tutorials. Looking at both docs they are > > sufficiently large and well structured enough to be called handbooks > > in their own right, like the Porters Handbook. > > "Primers" are things which cover a specific area at depth. "Handbooks" > cover largish areas without much depth. > > > Also it would seem appropriate to merge the tutorial on setting up and > > using a firewall with a PPP connection into the PPP {Primer,Handbook}. > > I wouldn't think so. I'd prefer to see a "Network [Administrator] > Handbook" to cover that. That tutorial specifically doesn't talk about > ppp issues. > > I do propose that we set up the docs in the same tree as they're > installed on home systems on the web, so (for one) links work. > > Neil > -- > Neil Blakey-Milner > Sunesi Clinical Systems > nbm@mithrandr.moria.org -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 17:53:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f62.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D437837B7D1 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:53:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tjbalistic@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:53:35 -0700 Received: from 152.7.61.229 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.7.61.229] From: "Thomas Caldwell" To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: error docs Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:53:35 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2000 00:53:35.0547 (UTC) FILETIME=[69BF48B0:01C00265] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The ftp directory linked to by the MS-Dos installation section of the following does not exist: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-guide.html (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/4.1-RELEASE/) & (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/4.1-RELEASE/bin) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 9 18:32:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73FF37BBBC for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 18:32:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.84.152]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000810013243.GLLV16423.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:32:43 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14941; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:32:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:32:43 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Thomas Caldwell Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error docs Message-ID: <20000810023243.C6678@parish> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tjbalistic@hotmail.com on Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 12:53:35AM +0000 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 12:53:35AM +0000, Thomas Caldwell wrote: > The ftp directory linked to by the MS-Dos installation section of the > following does not exist: > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-guide.html > > (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/4.1-RELEASE/) & > (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/4.1-RELEASE/bin) > Thanks. I've just fixed it (the web site won't be updated immediately). The correct URLs are ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.1-RELEASE/ ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.1-RELEASE/bin > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 10 1:26: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E9B37BB42; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13Mnf2-0009iZ-00; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:25:56 +0200 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:25:56 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Mark Ovens Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re-structuring of the docs Message-ID: <20000810102555.A37310@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000809135441.D251@parish> <20000809201305.A30032@mithrandr.moria.org> <20000810003622.B251@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000810003622.B251@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 12:36:22AM +0100 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu 2000-08-10 (00:36), Mark Ovens wrote: > > > I had also started working on producing a master index[1] for the > > > docs > > > > PR 14165. > > > > Hmm, I had been discussing this with Nik (a few months ago) and he > never mentioned this PR (he knows about it 'coz he responded to it). > OK, I guess I'll leave his alone then. If you'd like to update it and implement it, that'd be great. (: My main problem before is the vast difference of locations for documents on the web site. I used to have apache Alias /docs to /usr/share/doc, and that index.html was very cool. If I remember correctly, it deals with multiple languages, and so forth. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 10 7:19: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fortune.excite.com (fortune-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6FD37BE1A for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cparkman3@excite.com) Received: from spike.excite.com ([199.172.152.97]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000810141902.DKWB19704.fortune.excite.com@spike.excite.com> for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:19:02 -0700 Message-ID: <8018653.965917142495.JavaMail.imail@spike.excite.com> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:19:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Parkman To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: how?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 159.15.128.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I'm new to wonderful world of unix etc. am at a public terminal and am short of time please could you e-mail me at cparkman3@excite.com with some sort of information on how exactly I cxa n obtain and more importantly install bsd on my pc. cheers I know you probably are fucking busy but i would be graterful _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 10 7:43:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53F037B983 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.85.143]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000810144323.KPGN26680.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:43:23 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA57031; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:43:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:43:31 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Christopher Parkman Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how?? Message-ID: <20000810154331.C56771@parish> References: <8018653.965917142495.JavaMail.imail@spike.excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <8018653.965917142495.JavaMail.imail@spike.excite.com>; from cparkman3@excite.com on Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 07:19:02AM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 07:19:02AM -0700, Christopher Parkman wrote: > Hi I'm new to wonderful world of unix etc. am at a public terminal and am > short of time please could you e-mail me at cparkman3@excite.com with some > sort of information on how exactly I cxa n obtain and more importantly > install bsd on my pc. > http://www.freebsd.org and follow the link in the "Easy to Install" section near the bottom of the page. > > cheers I know you probably are fucking busy No, we're just very busy. > but i would be graterful > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Say Bye to Slow Internet! > http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 10 8:51:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nyct.net (bsd4.nyct.net [216.139.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD6F37B552 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 08:51:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from efutch@nyct.net) Received: from bsd1.nyct.net (efutch@bsd1.nyct.net [216.139.128.3]) by mail.nyct.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA28492 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:51:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from efutch@nyct.net) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:51:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Eric D. Futch" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Missing Makefile? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There seems to be no Makefile in doc/de_DE.ISO_8859-1/ even though the de_DE.ISO_8859-1 is included in the doc/Makefile. Is this intentional? It breaks the doc build and release, at least here on my machine. I'm using the following Makefile locally so I can build at least the part of the German docs that exist. [snip] # $FreeBSD$ SUBDIR = books COMPAT_SYMLINK = de DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/.. .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" [snip] -- Eric Futch New York Connect.Net, Ltd. efutch@nyct.net Technical Support Staff http://www.nyct.net (212) 293-2620 "Bringing New York The Internet Access It Deserves" KNYC: 10-Aug-00 10:51 EDT: 79.0 F (26.1 C), clear, humidity 64% To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 10 12: 6:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3E637BA7F; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:06:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (root@kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09072; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 19:35:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02803; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:37:33 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:37:32 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Mark Ovens Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re-structuring of the docs Message-ID: <20000810143732.A2482@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000809135441.D251@parish> <20000809201305.A30032@mithrandr.moria.org> <20000810003622.B251@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000810003622.B251@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 12:36:22AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 12:36:22AM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 08:13:05PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > On Wed 2000-08-09 (13:54), Mark Ovens wrote: > > > I had also started working on producing a master index[1] for the > > > docs > > > > PR 14165. > > > > Hmm, I had been discussing this with Nik (a few months ago) and he > never mentioned this PR (he knows about it 'coz he responded to it). "He knows about it" != "He remembers about it at the appropriate times" :-) > OK, I guess I'll leave his alone then. Feel free to dive in. If necessary the stuff in the PR can be committed now, while we wait for a more dynamic solution to be put in place. I'll follow up to the other stuff later. > 4.4 - The number of the Beastie Ho ho ho :-) N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 10 13:56:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr2.ruhr.de [141.39.224.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7572637BAB8 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:56:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 88871 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 2000 20:58:34 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19107; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:57:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:57:09 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Darryl Okahata , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TAB vs 8. Spaces (was Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml) Message-ID: <20000810225709.I3413@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <20000809201712.B30032@mithrandr.moria.org> <200008091849.LAA01748@mina.soco.agilent.com> <20000809212025.H3413@nathan.ruhr.de> <20000809213331.A31191@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000809213331.A31191@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 09:33:31PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > Er, yes, it does use tabs. Go to line 67 of fdp-primer/book.sgml. Not > that's a tab, not 8 spaces. I stand corrected. Note to self: Next time, check the complete document, not just the section with the indentation rules... > In short, ts=8 sw=2 sts=2: tabstop at 8 spaces, but insert soft-tabstops > of 2 spaces when you press tab, and shift width two at a time (with << > and >>). That's strange - I'm using those settings, too and I tried everything I could think of. Still, the vim over here refused to convert spaces into tabs, even when reformatting whole para > I think this is a documentation problem. *grin* That's why this discussion is on -doc and not -bugs ;-> /s/Udo -- Rome wasn't built by doing homework and taking tests. It was built by killing all those who opposed them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 10 14:20: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D343937BACB for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA54210; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from altair.mayn.de (altair.mayn.de [194.145.150.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABB637B564 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:15:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkb@altair.mayn.de) Received: (from mkb@localhost) by altair.mayn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01472; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:07:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mkb) Message-Id: <200008102107.XAA01472@altair.mayn.de> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:07:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Matthias Buelow Reply-To: mkb@altair.mayn.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/20528: sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix.1b options Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 20528 >Category: docs >Synopsis: sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix.1b options >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 10 14:20:03 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Matthias Buelow >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-20000712-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD 4.0-20000712-STABLE i386 >Description: The sysconf(3) manual page doesn't mention many sysconf option constants as defined under the "POSIX.1B sysconf options" section in /usr/include/sys/unistd.h, such as _SC_PAGESIZE. Most of these are usually documented in the sysconf(3) manpage on other systems such as HP-UX, although some differences between header file and manpage exist there also. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 3: 0: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CF037C03F for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 03:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA43681; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 03:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genius.systems.pavilion.net [212.74.1.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342A537BFD8 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 7A4C29B2D; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:51:43 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <20000811095143.7A4C29B2D@genius.systems.pavilion.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:51:43 +0100 (BST) From: joe@pavilion.net Reply-To: joe@pavilion.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 20532 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Broken link on the web page. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 11 03:00:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joe Karthauser >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Pavilion Internet plc >Environment: >Description: There's an important broken link on the releases index page on the web site: en/releases/index.sgml 1.18 (jfieber 22-Oct-97):

This latest release from our FreeBSD-stable branch is 1.31 (jkh 18-Sep-99): also available. Please see Getting 1.31 (jkh 18-Sep-99): FreeBSD for details.

The location in the handbook (stable.html) doesn't exist. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 4:20: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF2537C183 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA58282; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008111120.EAA58282@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mark Ovens Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Reply-To: Mark Ovens Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/20532; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mark Ovens To: joe@pavilion.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:10:49 +0100 On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 10:51:43AM +0100, joe@pavilion.net wrote: > > There's an important broken link on the releases index page > on the web site: en/releases/index.sgml > > 1.18 (jfieber 22-Oct-97):

This latest release from our 1.18 (jfieber 22-Oct-97): HREF="&base/handbook/stable.html">FreeBSD-stable branch is > 1.31 (jkh 18-Sep-99): also available. Please see Getting > 1.31 (jkh 18-Sep-99): FreeBSD for details.

> > The location in the handbook (stable.html) doesn't exist. > stable.html doesn't exist, but the link isn't broken at www.freebsd.org; it takes you to http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/current-stable.html#STABLE It is only broken on the UK mirror www.uk.freebsd.org > >How-To-Repeat: > >Fix: > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > >Unformatted: > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 4:40:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFE737C094 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA60270; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008111140.EAA60270@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Josef Karthauser Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Reply-To: Josef Karthauser Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/20532; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Josef Karthauser To: Mark Ovens Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:37:32 +0100 On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:10:49PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 10:51:43AM +0100, joe@pavilion.net wrote: > > > > There's an important broken link on the releases index page > > on the web site: en/releases/index.sgml > > > > 1.18 (jfieber 22-Oct-97):

This latest release from our > 1.18 (jfieber 22-Oct-97): HREF="&base/handbook/stable.html">FreeBSD-stable branch is > > 1.31 (jkh 18-Sep-99): also available. Please see Getting > > 1.31 (jkh 18-Sep-99): FreeBSD for details.

> > > > The location in the handbook (stable.html) doesn't exist. > > > > stable.html doesn't exist, but the link isn't broken at > www.freebsd.org; it takes you to > http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/current-stable.html#STABLE > > It is only broken on the UK mirror www.uk.freebsd.org And on www[2|3.uk.freebsd.org and on www.de.freebsd.org as a matter of interest. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 5:22:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA42137B614 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:22:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.84.54]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000811122232.SAXO26680.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:22:32 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01372; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:22:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:22:25 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Josef Karthauser Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Message-ID: <20000811132225.E254@parish> References: <200008111140.EAA60270@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200008111140.EAA60270@freefall.freebsd.org>; from joe@pavilion.net on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 04:40:05AM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 04:40:05AM -0700, Josef Karthauser wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/20532; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Josef Karthauser > To: Mark Ovens > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. > Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:37:32 +0100 > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:10:49PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 10:51:43AM +0100, joe@pavilion.net wrote: > > > > > > There's an important broken link on the releases index page > > > on the web site: en/releases/index.sgml > > > > > > 1.18 (jfieber 22-Oct-97):

This latest release from our > > 1.18 (jfieber 22-Oct-97): HREF="&base/handbook/stable.html">FreeBSD-stable branch is > > > 1.31 (jkh 18-Sep-99): also available. Please see Getting > > > 1.31 (jkh 18-Sep-99): FreeBSD for details.

> > > > > > The location in the handbook (stable.html) doesn't exist. > > > > > > > stable.html doesn't exist, but the link isn't broken at > > www.freebsd.org; it takes you to > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/current-stable.html#STABLE > > > > It is only broken on the UK mirror www.uk.freebsd.org > > And on www[2|3.uk.freebsd.org and on www.de.freebsd.org > as a matter of interest. > Yes, I should have added, "maybe on _all_ mirrors" :) I'm not sure how to fix this because if you hold the cursor over the link at www.freebsd.org it shows, in the status bar, the URL http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html . I guess there is a symlink somewhere on www.freebsd.org. > Joe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 5:27:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genius.systems.pavilion.net [212.74.1.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D51937C119; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:27:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 8C56B9B2A; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:27:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:27:54 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Mark Ovens Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Message-ID: <20000811132754.C6854@pavilion.net> References: <200008111140.EAA60270@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000811132225.E254@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000811132225.E254@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:22:25PM +0100 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:22:25PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > Yes, I should have added, "maybe on _all_ mirrors" :) > > I'm not sure how to fix this because if you hold the cursor over the > link at www.freebsd.org it shows, in the status bar, the URL > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html . I guess there is a > symlink somewhere on www.freebsd.org. > Taking a look at Freefall it appears that there's a local configuration in the httpd.conf: httpd.conf:Redirect /handbook/current.html http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/current-stable.html#CURRENT httpd.conf:Redirect /handbook/stable.html http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/current-stable.html#STABLE There's no RCS file so I don't know who, when or why the change was made, but I'd suggest that it is wrong, and that the documentation should do the right thing. This kind of configuration isn't going to be mirrored by the web mirror sites. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 5:32:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B97C37BC05; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01040; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:32:27 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:32:27 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Mark Ovens Cc: Josef Karthauser , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Message-ID: <20000811123227.A995@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200008111140.EAA60270@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000811132225.E254@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000811132225.E254@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:22:25PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:22:25PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > I'm not sure how to fix this because if you hold the cursor over the > link at www.freebsd.org it shows, in the status bar, the URL > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html . I guess there is a > symlink somewhere on www.freebsd.org. No, it's a redirect in the Apache config file. An eager committer needs to think about bringing that stuff in to CVS, and possible producing a 'web site mirror' port, that can set up a FreeBSD mirror with the minimum effort. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 6: 2:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genius.systems.pavilion.net [212.74.1.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720C337C101; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 06:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 3B8819B2A; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:02:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:02:34 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Nik Clayton Cc: Mark Ovens , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Message-ID: <20000811140234.E6854@pavilion.net> References: <200008111140.EAA60270@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000811132225.E254@parish> <20000811123227.A995@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000811123227.A995@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:32:27PM +0000 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:32:27PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:22:25PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > I'm not sure how to fix this because if you hold the cursor over the > > link at www.freebsd.org it shows, in the status bar, the URL > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html . I guess there is a > > symlink somewhere on www.freebsd.org. > > No, it's a redirect in the Apache config file. An eager committer needs > to think about bringing that stuff in to CVS, and possible producing a > 'web site mirror' port, that can set up a FreeBSD mirror with the minimum > effort. You argued to me that using Apache specific functionality was a mistake because not all mirrors are running apache. Surely these redirects shouldn't exist, and the internal links in the documentation should be changed. In addition a coupld of, sorry these links have changed., pages should be introduced. IMO. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 8:41:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr2.ruhr.de [141.39.224.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89CF037BF53 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:41:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 3959 invoked by alias); 11 Aug 2000 15:43:47 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21197; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:42:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:42:15 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: Ben Smithurst Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TAB vs 8. Spaces (was Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml) Message-ID: <20000811174214.K3413@nathan.ruhr.de> References: <200008051641.JAA35521@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000809191120.G3413@nathan.ruhr.de> <20000809200735.G48327@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000809200735.G48327@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>; from ben@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 08:07:35PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 08:07:35PM +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote: > Are you sure? It looked that way when I looked over the diff > ben@magnesium:~/bsdwork/FAQ$ diff -ubB book.sgml faq-formatted | wc -l > 16935 > ben@magnesium:~/bsdwork/FAQ$ diff -u book.sgml faq-formatted | wc -l > 18721 That's an example of the one weakness of unified diffs... > i.e. even ignoring white space changes it's still pretty damn big. :-( Well, large parts of the FAQ didn't have proper formatting, that may be one of the reasons. My initial check showed that there were about 1300 lines with TABs in the old version, about 2700 lines starting with '<' and approx. 50 lines ending with a TAB or space. The new version has 45 lines starting with '<', most of them within entities where whitespace and linebreaks are significant (programlisting, screen, literallayout, pre and address). It seems I'll have to check that diff line by line to find out what caused the changes. Ah well, better than another battle with Cisco's IOS... /s/Udo -- "Treason is a charge invented by winners as an excuse for hanging the losers." - Benjamin Franklin, ca. 1776 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 9: 5:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10D437BF98; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ben@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA58074; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:05:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200008111605.JAA58074@freefall.freebsd.org> To: joe@pavilion.net, ben@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Broken link on the web page. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ben State-Changed-When: Fri Aug 11 17:05:02 BST 2000 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 11:14:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (luna.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC22F37B5D3; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:14:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ADBBF31C2; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:14:23 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Nik Clayton , Mark Ovens , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Message-ID: <20000811111423.B4254@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@jmock.com References: <200008111140.EAA60270@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000811132225.E254@parish> <20000811123227.A995@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000811140234.E6854@pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000811140234.E6854@pavilion.net>; from joe@pavilion.net on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 02:02:34PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 at 14:02:34 +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:32:27PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:22:25PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > > I'm not sure how to fix this because if you hold the cursor over > > > the link at www.freebsd.org it shows, in the status bar, the URL > > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html . I guess there is a > > > symlink somewhere on www.freebsd.org. > > > > No, it's a redirect in the Apache config file. An eager committer > > needs to think about bringing that stuff in to CVS, and possible > > producing a 'web site mirror' port, that can set up a FreeBSD > > mirror with the minimum effort. > > You argued to me that using Apache specific functionality was a > mistake because not all mirrors are running apache. Surely these > redirects shouldn't exist, and the internal links in the documentation > should be changed. In addition a coupld of, sorry these links have > changed., pages should be introduced. Are you volunteering? :-) - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 12:19:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CD937B930; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:19:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johan@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from johan@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA83465; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johan@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:19:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200008111919.MAA83465@freefall.freebsd.org> To: johan@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/17774: stray irq7 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: stray irq7 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: johan Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Aug 11 12:11:03 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: Let the -doc folks have a look the suggested FAQ entry. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17774 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 21:56: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kenny.blue-box.net (kenny.blue-box.net [204.245.221.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8729A37B874 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:55:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@bendnet.com) Received: from kenny.blue-box.net (kenny.blue-box.net [204.245.221.97]) by kenny.blue-box.net (8.11.0/8.11.0/BBMX) with ESMTP id e7C4tvH96210 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:55:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Vince Valenti X-Sender: vince@kenny.blue-box.net To: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In section 18.4 of the freebsd handbook (Using make world), you guys should talk about using mergemaster(8) to update the system's configuration files. -- Vince Valenti Network Services BendNet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 11 23:55:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.ovis.net (ns1.ovis.net [207.0.147.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2A337B509 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:55:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chromexa@ovis.net) Received: from ovis.net (s40.pm5.ovis.net [207.0.147.106]) by ns1.ovis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12772 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 02:55:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3994F68C.50E9C940@ovis.net> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:02:36 -0400 From: Steve Kudlak Reply-To: chromexa@ovis.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD ezn/58/n (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe me Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe me To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 12 7:46:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C6D37B86D for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 07:46:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@ark.cris.net) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20970 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 17:45:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA68222; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 17:45:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from phantom) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 17:45:33 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [genopre@intelnet.net.gt: Windows programs running on FreeBSD 4.0?] Message-ID: <20000812174533.B66921@ark.cris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from "Inskip Thomas C." ----- From: "Inskip Thomas C." To: Subject: Windows programs running on FreeBSD 4.0? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:16:24 -0500 ------------------------------------ FROM: Thomas C. Inskip c/o Urgente Express Agencia No. 80 Barrio El Centro Gualan, Zacapa Guatemala Email: genopre@intelnet.net.gt Tel: 502-933-1034 ------------------------------------ TO: FreeBSD ------------------------------------ SUBJECT: Windows programs running on FreeBSD 4.0? FILE: E000809.DOC DATE: 8/9/2000 ------------------------------------ Dear Sir: I now make up a bill of materials to convert a 500 MHz Dell system from Wondows98 to FreeBSD 4.0. It comes to about $800US. I hold many applications programs for Windows. How does a client use the programs with BSD? In addition, I hold a NEC pd 658 CD-ROM and PD read/write. Does this program driver set-up transfer into BSD? It makes a secure recorder with not too much mess- about. The BSD system will operate a VHDL system. Any other problems? Sincerely Tom Inskip ----- End forwarded message ----- -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ /* Sysadmin/Developer && phantom@sms.umc.com.ua */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 12 9:55: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF13937BFB7; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 09:54:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 3E9C99B2A; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 17:54:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 17:54:56 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Jim Mock Cc: Nik Clayton , Mark Ovens , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Message-ID: <20000812175456.B509@pavilion.net> References: <200008111140.EAA60270@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000811132225.E254@parish> <20000811123227.A995@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000811140234.E6854@pavilion.net> <20000811111423.B4254@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000811111423.B4254@luna.osd.bsdi.com>; from jim@jmock.com on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 11:14:23AM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 11:14:23AM -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > > > You argued to me that using Apache specific functionality was a > > mistake because not all mirrors are running apache. Surely these > > redirects shouldn't exist, and the internal links in the documentation > > should be changed. In addition a coupld of, sorry these links have > > changed., pages should be introduced. > > Are you volunteering? :-) > > - jim I'll rip out the Redirects on FreeFall (given root perms) ;). What I'm concerned about is that the web site is dependant upon web server specific configuration that none of the mirror sites are conscious of. Either we fix that, by telling the mirror sites to add X configuration to their server, or we fix the documentation. Nik's original argument (in the web site revision thread a few weeks ago) was that we can't dictate what servers the mirrors are running, and on that basis I suggest that we shouldn't be depending upon any special web server configuration. I'm happy to search through the existing docs looking for references to the places that are 'Redirect'ed if there aren't any doc people who've got time. Is this what you're sugesting 8@). Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 12 16: 0:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DCA37BD73 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 16:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA46556; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 16:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 16:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008122300.QAA46556@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Bruce Evans Subject: Re: kern/17774: stray irq7 Reply-To: Bruce Evans Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR kern/17774; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bruce Evans To: Johan Karlsson Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern/17774: stray irq7 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 08:55:04 +1000 (EST) On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Johan Karlsson wrote: > I suggest the following is added to the faq The fwa? :-). > ============= > Q: What does 'stray irq' mean? > A: Stray irq are interupts from some hardware that do not have > a driver assigned to it. J Wunsch writes in a response to a PR No, they are mostly from hardware that removes its interrupt request in the middle of the interrupt request acknowledge cycle. FreeBSD's interrupt handling (toggling the PIC masks at a critical time) probably amplifies this problem. Assigning a driver can "fix" the problem by breaking detection of it. The correct fix is to detect the stray interrupts caused by interrupt timing glitches and decide what to do about them (whatever is done, it shouldn't involve printing a faq magnet). 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