From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 5 20:49: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF84737BB2D for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:48:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA06848; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:48:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <003a01bf8727$46765e20$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Hugh Blandford" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Restricting Access to IMAP Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:48:53 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.3825.400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Hugh Blandford" > thanks for the reply. Would there be a way of reversing the meaning of > the file so that only users specified in it were able to use IMAP? I take > it that there would be no problems in just pointing the line in inetd.conf > to a different POP server. > I am not sure, but you could try changing it as follows: > > > > define(`confLOCAL_MAILER',`cyrus')dnl > > define(`confLOCAL_MAILER',`local')dnl > > LOCAL_RULE_0 > > R$=N $: $#local $: $1 > > R$=N < @ $=w . > $: $#local $: $1 > > Rbb + $+ < @ $=w . > $#cyrusbb $: $1 > > R$=N $: $#cyrus $: $1 R$=N < @ $=w . > $: $#cyrus $: $1 Rbb + $+ < @ $=w . > $#cyrusbb $: $1 > > LOCAL_CONFIG > > FN /etc/mail/sendmail.cN > > There should be no problem in pointing inetd to a different POP server. Are you going to allow your IMAP users to also use POP? If not, then you could disable the Cyrus POP server (ipop3d) in inetd.conf and still use the standard POP port (110) for your local POP users. Otherwise you'll have to uses an alternate POP port. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 6 12:47:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha1.net (mail.alpha1.net [216.88.112.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D83D37BF05 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:47:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marius@alpha1.net) Received: from beaker.alpha1.net (marius@beaker.alpha1.net [216.88.237.14]) by mail.alpha1.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16405 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:47:48 -0600 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:47:47 -0600 (CST) From: Marius Strom To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RAID Controllers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This isn't the perfect list to ask these questions, but I'm working on rebuilding a Linux mail server and replacing it with a 4.0-(CURRENT|SNAPSHOT|RELEASE) system. I'm trying to find out if anyone has had any luck with either the Adaptec AAA-131SA or the DPT SmartRaid IV PM3334UW card. I see the DPT is listed in /handbook/install-hw.html, but find no mention of the AAA-131, nor can I find the chipset the AAA is actually running via Adaptec's website. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Marius Strom Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator Alpha1 Internet http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0x42C74CBA *UPDATED PGP KEY 2/24/2000* In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice... ...In practice, there is a big difference. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 6 13: 8: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from irev.net (bulbasaur.irev.net [12.22.216.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5044337BF72 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:08:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from presence@irev.net) Received: from localhost (presence@localhost) by irev.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA48863; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:06:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from presence@irev.net) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:06:38 -0800 (PST) From: Presence To: Marius Strom Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID Controllers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm trying to find out if anyone has had any luck with either the Adaptec > AAA-131SA or the DPT SmartRaid IV PM3334UW card. Personally, I maintain a FreeBSD 3.4 machine with the SmartRaid IV card with 32 megs of cache on it driving 6 IBM 9Gig LZX drives and all I did was uncomment the DPT lines in the kernel's config, compile, and go. I configured the DPT's software for RAID 5, booted into FreeBSD, created a drive under /raid, disklabel, newfs. Its been working flawlessly for 8 months now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 6 13:50:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.cpetc.com (hermes.cpetc.com [207.137.157.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4C637BA4D for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:49:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kahn@deadbbs.com) Received: from erin-laptop (mongo.sdccd.cc.ca.us [209.129.16.5]) by hermes.cpetc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20267 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:51:50 -0800 (PST) From: "Kahn" To: Subject: Email list for apache... Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:52:36 -0800 Message-ID: <001e01bf87b6$48e618a0$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <004201bf878d$5ee3f740$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As I get more and more into apache I realise I need a mailing list. Can anyone point me to a good if not great maining list for apache? Thanks Erin mailto:kahn@deadbbs.com http:\\www.deadbbs.com http:\\www.fortenberry.net Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 6 13:58:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89C137BF4A for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:58:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id 35648136DE; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:58:48 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 21:58:48 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson To: Kahn Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Email list for apache... Message-ID: <20000306215848.O82434@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <004201bf878d$5ee3f740$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> <001e01bf87b6$48e618a0$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: <001e01bf87b6$48e618a0$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us>; from kahn@deadbbs.com on Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 01:52:36PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 01:52:36PM -0800, Kahn wrote: > As I get more and more into apache I realise I need a mailing > list. Can anyone point me to a good if not great maining list > for apache? Go to http://www.apache.org/, type "mailing list" into the search form, click search, it will probably get you to a useful page. > http:\\www.deadbbs.com > http:\\www.fortenberry.net Wrong slashes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 6 14:14:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.cpetc.com (hermes.cpetc.com [207.137.157.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270A237BB55 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:14:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kahn@deadbbs.com) Received: from erin-laptop (mongo.sdccd.cc.ca.us [209.129.16.5]) by hermes.cpetc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA20424; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:16:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Kahn" To: "'Stuart Henderson'" Cc: Subject: RE: Email list for apache... Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:17:17 -0800 Message-ID: <002001bf87b9$bc0aff00$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20000306215848.O82434@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 01:52:36PM -0800, Kahn wrote: > > As I get more and more into apache I realize I need a mailing > > list. Can anyone point me to a good if not great mailing list > > for apache? > > Go to http://www.apache.org/, type "mailing list" into the search > form, click search, it will probably get you to a useful page. Thanks to the people who have responded so far. I have looked through the www.apache.org site. What specifically I am looking for, is a technical support mailing list for apache. Something like freebsd-questions@freebsd.org is to freebsd. > > http:\\www.deadbbs.com > > http:\\www.fortenberry.net > > Wrong slashes. I wonder why I didn't notice that before? Thanks. Erin mailto:kahn@deadbbs.com http://www.deadbbs.com http://www.fortenberry.net From RFC 1925, point #3 "(3) With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 6 14:34:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CA037BB30 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:34:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id 77842134BC; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 22:34:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:34:43 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson To: Kahn Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Email list for apache... Message-ID: <20000306223443.S82434@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <20000306215848.O82434@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> <002001bf87b9$bc0aff00$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: <002001bf87b9$bc0aff00$6514820a@erin-laptop.sdccd.cc.ca.us>; from kahn@deadbbs.com on Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 02:17:17PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 02:17:17PM -0800, Kahn wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2000 at 01:52:36PM -0800, Kahn wrote: > > > As I get more and more into apache I realize I need a mailing > > > list. Can anyone point me to a good if not great mailing list > > > for apache? > > > > Go to http://www.apache.org/, type "mailing list" into the search > > form, click search, it will probably get you to a useful page. > > Thanks to the people who have responded so far. I have looked through the > www.apache.org site. What specifically I am looking for, is a technical > support mailing list for apache. Something like > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org is to freebsd. Hmm, okay then..having clicked on the apache-users link and finding it's -announce, let's try a different approach... Tried usenet? news:comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix (or, erm, http://www.deja.com/group/comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix) > http://www.fortenberry.net better :) 418 I'm a teapot -- RFC2324, htcpcp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 6 20:55:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.island.net.au (mail.island.net.au [203.28.142.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B8337BF04 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:55:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hugh@island.net.au) Received: from hansolo (solo.island.net.au [203.28.142.5]) by mail.island.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA10349 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:54:19 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <00a101bf87f0$f1f92100$088ea8c0@island.net.au> From: "Hugh Blandford" To: Subject: IMAP and group accounts Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:52:30 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I'm using Cyrus. Does anyone have the cyradm 8 manpage? I see it referred to in the documentation but it doesn't exist on my system. I am trying to create an account and give one of my freebsd groups access to it. Any ideas? Thanks Hugh Blandford Island Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 10:48: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (bubba.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC2337BD4F for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:47:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA41975; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:47:37 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200003071847.KAA41975@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Netgraph & 'Fake' interfaces In-Reply-To: from Andy Cowan at "Mar 2, 2000 02:21:19 pm" To: andyc@waverider.net.uk (Andy Cowan) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:47:37 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andy Cowan writes: > I'm new to netgrpah and having a bit of a problem - I would like to set up > some 'fake' interfaces - basically just creating the same effect as an > ifconfig alias, but with a network interface (like ng0) associted with each > alias - this way I can monitor the traffic through each fake interface with > SNMP. > > I'm trying ngctl mkpeer rl0: iface inet inet - but it doesn't like it. Does > anyone know the right way to do this? What type of node is 'rl0:' ? Does it support a hook type named 'inet' ? Try this.. $ ngctl mkpeer iface inet inet -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 11:29:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from apollo2.waverider.net.uk (apollo2.waverider.net.uk [194.207.158.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416B537BD0B for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:29:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andyc@waverider.net.uk) Received: from bugs (bugs.office.waverider.net.uk [212.105.191.50]) by apollo2.waverider.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA06544; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:28:50 GMT From: "Andy Cowan" To: "Archie Cobbs" Cc: Subject: RE: Netgraph & 'Fake' interfaces Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:29:05 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200003071847.KAA41975@bubba.whistle.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I'm trying ngctl mkpeer rl0: iface inet inet - but it doesn't > like it. Does > > anyone know the right way to do this? > > What type of node is 'rl0:' ? Does it support a hook type named 'inet' ? > > Try this.. > > $ ngctl mkpeer iface inet inet > It's an existing ethernet interface - I'm just trying to fake additional ethernet interfaces - not just alias the IP addresses onto them. As far as I can see, I can't actually do this with Netgraph - because its iface node is a point to point interface, unless I'm missing something stupid. Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 12:26:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (bubba.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD8137BD12 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:26:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA42787; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:26:37 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200003072026.MAA42787@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Netgraph & 'Fake' interfaces In-Reply-To: from Andy Cowan at "Mar 7, 2000 07:29:05 pm" To: andyc@waverider.net.uk (Andy Cowan) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:26:37 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andy Cowan writes: > > > I'm trying ngctl mkpeer rl0: iface inet inet - but it doesn'tlike it. > > > Does anyone know the right way to do this? > > > > What type of node is 'rl0:' ? Does it support a hook type named 'inet' ? > > > > Try this.. > > > > $ ngctl mkpeer iface inet inet > > > > It's an existing ethernet interface - I'm just trying to fake additional > ethernet interfaces - not just alias the IP addresses onto them. As far as I > can see, I can't actually do this with Netgraph - because its iface node is > a point to point interface, unless I'm missing something stupid. No you can't do that.. netgraph interfaces are independent beings, you can't "attach" one to another existing interface. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 14:31:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx20.rmci.net (halcyon.rmci.net [205.162.184.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4427A37B539 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:31:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webweaver@rmci.net) Received: (qmail 31816 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2000 00:31:22 -0000 Received: from usr-boi-101.rmci.net (HELO hobart) (206.159.112.187) by halcyon.rmci.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2000 00:31:22 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000307152825.00956e20@mail.rmci.net> X-Sender: webweaver@mail.rmci.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:32:56 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Ken Subject: Vinum Stripe Size Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greets: Vinum simple config uses 256k stripe sizes. However, the examples in _The Complete FBSD_ and Greg's web pages use 512k stripe size. It doesn't appear that this will make a whole lot of difference one way or the other, but I am curious about what others are using. This application is for stripped mirror on four 9GB drives. Thanks for your output-- Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 14:39:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from celery.dragondata.com (celery.dragondata.com [205.253.12.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EF837C14B for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:39:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@celery.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by celery.dragondata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA93953; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:39:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toasty) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <200003072239.QAA93953@celery.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: Vinum Stripe Size To: webweaver@rmci.net (Ken) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:39:07 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000307152825.00956e20@mail.rmci.net> from "Ken" at Mar 07, 2000 03:32:56 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Greets: > > Vinum simple config uses 256k stripe sizes. However, the examples in _The > Complete FBSD_ and Greg's web pages use 512k stripe size. It doesn't > appear that this will make a whole lot of difference one way or the other, > but I am curious about what others are using. This application is for > stripped mirror on four 9GB drives. > > Thanks for your output-- Ken > Actually, I discovered that with 4 drives, you're much better off using an odd stripe size. (not a power of two) This is because of how the cylinder groups are laid out, they'll all end up on one drive. You may want to ask Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) for more info about this, as I can't remember exactly what he came up with for an optimum stripe size. Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 14:56:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx20.rmci.net (halcyon.rmci.net [205.162.184.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A80A37BFE4 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:56:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webweaver@rmci.net) Received: (qmail 2387 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2000 00:56:25 -0000 Received: from usr-boi-101.rmci.net (HELO hobart) (206.159.112.187) by halcyon.rmci.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2000 00:56:25 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000307155338.00974100@mail.rmci.net> X-Sender: webweaver@mail.rmci.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:58:00 -0700 To: Kevin Day From: Ken Subject: Re: Vinum Stripe Size Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200003072239.QAA93953@celery.dragondata.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20000307152825.00956e20@mail.rmci.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:39 PM 3/7/00 -0600, Kevin Day wrote: > > > > Greets: > > > > Vinum simple config uses 256k stripe sizes. However, the examples in _The > > Complete FBSD_ and Greg's web pages use 512k stripe size. It doesn't > > appear that this will make a whole lot of difference one way or the other, > > but I am curious about what others are using. This application is for > > stripped mirror on four 9GB drives. > > > > Thanks for your output-- Ken > > > >Actually, I discovered that with 4 drives, you're much better off using an >odd stripe size. (not a power of two) This is because of how the cylinder >groups are laid out, they'll all end up on one drive. > >You may want to ask Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) for more info about this, as >I can't remember exactly what he came up with for an optimum stripe size. I figured he'd end up seeing this and I didn't want to bug him at his private address;) The docs suggest 256k to 512K. I thing I read somewhere to use 512 with larger drives, but cannot recall precisely where. BTW, this is for a web hosting box. I could probably get by with RAID-1, but figured I might as well go with RAID-10 since I have the drives to spare. Regards, Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 15: 1: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from krell.webweaver.net (krell.webweaver.net [206.24.105.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FC337BDBC for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:01:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicole@unixgirl.com) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by krell.webweaver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF8220F04; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:12:46 -0800 (PST) Content-Length: 2362 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:01:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Nicole Harrington." To: isp-tech@isp-tech.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Apache Hacking and Apparent Spoofing Problem Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings all I have an 2 apache related questions. Q1) The first one is that I have a customer whos server was/is getting hundreds of lines like: www.joelpass.com -> /oops.html in the referer log. the ooops page means they entered a bad passwd for entrance to the pay x-rated site on the server. All of this seems somewhat normal except the lack of httpd:// and the fact that there is no such domain as joelpass.com. So how is someone doing this? IE how do they get referer to show this fake ID? I thought it was dns based. DNS poisoning? They don't use their own dns, they use a major internet providors dns. EX: http://start.at/mega -> /~mega http://www.sterndevelopments.com/rankem/index.html -> /DGC.html http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=hardcore -> /index.html http://start.at/mega -> /~mega/index.html http://profiles.yahoo.com/solacedenied_joel -> /index.html www.joelpass.com -> /oops.html www.joelpass.com -> /oops.html Q2) It seems that there is a website that is hacking into pay X-Rated sites and providing free access to them via a click through on their system and they are the ones responsible for the above. They seem to be offshore and their clickthrough refering sites seem to come from all over. Is there anyway to stop them? ( I like porn, but I also work for several pay sites that are getting hit pretty hard by these asses. their password guessing has created huge bandwidth spikes and if they guess one the site instantly becomes swamped) Any help would be greatly appreciatted. Nicole nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ // \\ ---------------------------(((---(((----------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 15:24:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chuggalug.clues.com (chuggalug.clues.com [194.217.82.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0193B37BAFC for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:24:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com) Received: (from geoffb@localhost) by chuggalug.clues.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA41577; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:24:46 GMT (envelope-from geoffb) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:24:46 +0000 From: Geoff Buckingham To: Ken Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum Stripe Size Message-ID: <20000307232446.C39917@chuggalug.clues.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20000307152825.00956e20@mail.rmci.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000307152825.00956e20@mail.rmci.net>; from Ken on Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 03:32:56PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 03:32:56PM -0700, Ken wrote: > Greets: > > Vinum simple config uses 256k stripe sizes. However, the examples in _The > Complete FBSD_ and Greg's web pages use 512k stripe size. It doesn't > appear that this will make a whole lot of difference one way or the other, > but I am curious about what others are using. This application is for > stripped mirror on four 9GB drives. > > Thanks for your output-- Ken > It depend on your application, how much reading to writing , size of reads/ writes, sequential or randon? Also with an even number of spindles and non sequential access you may want to stripe at the size of the cylinder group to avoid concentrating 'bookkeeping' information on the first spindle. (see section 8.2 of The design and imlimentation of 4.4 BSD) THere are a number of other ways to avid this search for threads on stripe size involving myself and Greg Lehey. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- GeoffB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 15:28: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from krell.webweaver.net (krell.webweaver.net [206.24.105.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95E037BD6C for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:28:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicole@unixgirl.com) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by krell.webweaver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7BC20F04; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:39:49 -0800 (PST) Content-Length: 2355 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:28:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Nicole Harrington." To: Marius Strom Subject: RE: RAID Controllers Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 06-Mar-00 Marius Strom wrote: > This isn't the perfect list to ask these questions, but I'm working on > rebuilding a Linux mail server and replacing it with a > 4.0-(CURRENT|SNAPSHOT|RELEASE) system. > > I'm trying to find out if anyone has had any luck with either the Adaptec > AAA-131SA or the DPT SmartRaid IV PM3334UW card. > > I see the DPT is listed in /handbook/install-hw.html, but find no mention > of the AAA-131, nor can I find the chipset the AAA is actually running via > Adaptec's website. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > I have used the DPT card in several sites and it performs very well so far. I usually perfer the SCSI-SCSI type of outboard raid controller, but the DPT has worked pretty well. As far as I know the adaptec card will work as a nice caching SCSI card but there is no RAID support for it yet as far as I know. Even if there was it wou ld effectivly be 1.0 code, which may not be what you want. The DPT is a bit mo re tried and true. However... I would still Really like to see RAID support from adaptec cards. Nicole > -- > Marius Strom > Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator > Alpha1 Internet > http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0x42C74CBA *UPDATED PGP KEY 2/24/2000* > > In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice... > ...In practice, there is a big difference. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ // \\ ---------------------------(((---(((----------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 19:49:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from radius2.csw.net (radius2.csw.net [209.136.194.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA9C37B561 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:49:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Received: from eqos2.os2warp.org (eqos2.os2warp.org [209.136.194.226]) by radius2.csw.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA04996 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:48:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) From: lambert@cswnet.com Message-Id: <200003080348.VAA04996@radius2.csw.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 21:45:25 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Am I being spammed? Or is egroups this impolite? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.08 c07 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have an immediate problem wherein I am seeing a heinous number of sumultanious connects claiming to be from egroups.com. The IPs are in the 208.50.144, 208.48.218, and 208.49.160 Class-Cs. I cannot lookup by name these connections. Is this standard practice for egroups or had somebody faked up a lot of DNS? This barrage has brought both my MX servers to their knees. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 21: 1:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D2937C215 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:01:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id PAA52302; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:31:14 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:31:14 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Ken Cc: Kevin Day , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum Stripe Size Message-ID: <20000308153114.A52208@freebie.lemis.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20000307152825.00956e20@mail.rmci.net> <200003072239.QAA93953@celery.dragondata.com> <4.2.0.58.20000307155338.00974100@mail.rmci.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000307155338.00974100@mail.rmci.net> WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 7 March 2000 at 15:58:00 -0700, Ken wrote: > At 04:39 PM 3/7/00 -0600, Kevin Day wrote: >>> >>> Greets: >>> >>> Vinum simple config uses 256k stripe sizes. However, the examples in _The >>> Complete FBSD_ and Greg's web pages use 512k stripe size. It doesn't >>> appear that this will make a whole lot of difference one way or the other, >>> but I am curious about what others are using. This application is for >>> stripped mirror on four 9GB drives. >>> >>> Thanks for your output-- Ken >> >> Actually, I discovered that with 4 drives, you're much better off using an >> odd stripe size. (not a power of two) This is because of how the cylinder >> groups are laid out, they'll all end up on one drive. >> >> You may want to ask Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) for more info about this, as >> I can't remember exactly what he came up with for an optimum stripe size. > > I figured he'd end up seeing this and I didn't want to bug him at > his private address;) The docs suggest 256k to 512K. I thing I read > somewhere to use 512 with larger drives, but cannot recall precisely > where. BTW, this is for a web hosting box. I could probably get by > with RAID-1, but figured I might as well go with RAID-10 since I > have the drives to spare. Indeed, Kevin is right. At the FreeBSDCon he showed me some interesting results running ufs on striped plexes with different stripe sizes. There are two basic issues here: 1. We want to avoid more I/O requests than necessary. This is described in more detail at http://www.lemis.com/vinum/Performance-issues.html. Basically, the larger the stripe size, the fewer user-level requests get turned into multiple I/O requests. The largest I/O request on a FreeBSD machine is currently 128 kB, but it's extremely unusual to see more than 64 kB, and the average is round 8 to 16 kB. You can keep track of what Vinum is doing here with the 'lp -s' command (list statistics for all plexes): vinum -> lp -s root.p2 Object Reads Bytes Average Recover Writes Bytes Average Mblock Mstripe root.p2 345 4308480 12488 0 2124 8675328 4084 16 3 The column 'Mblock' specifies the number of transfers that go beyond a single block in a stripe (i.e. they involve more than one disk). The column 'Mstripe' specifies the number of transfers that go across a stripe boundary. In practice, with a large stripe size, these two values have the same implications. 2. You want to avoid putting all your superblocks on the same disk. Nowadays cylinder groups are almost always 32 MB, so any power of 2 stripe size will give rise to this undesirable situation. Kevin gave me some interesting input on the effect this has on performance, but it's quite a difficult problem. I'm planning to provide a program to work out optimal stripe sizes, but it's not ready yet. The principle is simple, though: spread the superblocks equally across all disks. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 21:17:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from celery.dragondata.com (celery.dragondata.com [205.253.12.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6770437BE9F for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:17:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@celery.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by celery.dragondata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA94623; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:17:28 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toasty) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <200003080517.XAA94623@celery.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: Vinum Stripe Size To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:17:28 -0600 (CST) Cc: webweaver@rmci.net (Ken), toasty@dragondata.com (Kevin Day), freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000308153114.A52208@freebie.lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Mar 08, 2000 03:31:14 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> Actually, I discovered that with 4 drives, you're much better off using an > >> odd stripe size. (not a power of two) This is because of how the cylinder > >> groups are laid out, they'll all end up on one drive. > >> > >> You may want to ask Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) for more info about this, as > >> I can't remember exactly what he came up with for an optimum stripe size. > > > > I figured he'd end up seeing this and I didn't want to bug him at > > his private address;) The docs suggest 256k to 512K. I thing I read > > somewhere to use 512 with larger drives, but cannot recall precisely > > where. BTW, this is for a web hosting box. I could probably get by > > with RAID-1, but figured I might as well go with RAID-10 since I > > have the drives to spare. > > Indeed, Kevin is right. At the FreeBSDCon he showed me some > interesting results running ufs on striped plexes with different > stripe sizes. > > 2. You want to avoid putting all your superblocks on the same disk. > Nowadays cylinder groups are almost always 32 MB, so any power of > 2 stripe size will give rise to this undesirable situation. Kevin > gave me some interesting input on the effect this has on > performance, but it's quite a difficult problem. I'm planning to > provide a program to work out optimal stripe sizes, but it's not > ready yet. The principle is simple, though: spread the > superblocks equally across all disks. When I used a stripe size of 256k or 512k, I ended up with about 90% of my disk accesses going on drive 0, and the remaining 10% spread across the other three drives. This was mostly because my application created HUGE directories with tons of very small files, I'm guessing. After playing with things for far too long, I ended up with some very very unusual number, that seemed to work best... It probably works for the wrong reasons, but a co-worker suggested that I try a (prime number * 512) that ended up being close to 256k. I think just the fact that it was just an oddball number worked well, the fact that it was prime has nothing to do with it. :) In short, picking something that doesn't end up as an integer if you do: ((32M / stripesize) / numdrives) was as close as I came to figuring out how to make it not beat one drive to death. :) Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 21:59:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.rmci.net (saturn.rmci.net [205.162.184.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 267AB37B59E for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:59:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webweaver@rmci.net) Received: (qmail 32223 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2000 05:59:04 -0000 Received: from usr-boi-382.rmci.net (HELO hobart) (206.159.112.223) by saturn.rmci.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2000 05:59:04 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000307225646.0097adf0@mail.rmci.net> X-Sender: webweaver@mail.rmci.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 23:00:42 -0700 To: Kevin Day , grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) From: Ken Subject: Re: Vinum Stripe Size Cc: toasty@dragondata.com (Kevin Day), freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200003080517.XAA94623@celery.dragondata.com> References: <20000308153114.A52208@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:17 PM 3/7/00 -0600, Kevin Day wrote: > > >> Actually, I discovered that with 4 drives, you're much better off > using an > > >> odd stripe size. (not a power of two) This is because of how the > cylinder > > >> groups are laid out, they'll all end up on one drive. > > >> > > >> You may want to ask Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) for more info about > this, as > > >> I can't remember exactly what he came up with for an optimum stripe > size. > > > > > > I figured he'd end up seeing this and I didn't want to bug him at > > > his private address;) The docs suggest 256k to 512K. I thing I read > > > somewhere to use 512 with larger drives, but cannot recall precisely > > > where. BTW, this is for a web hosting box. I could probably get by > > > with RAID-1, but figured I might as well go with RAID-10 since I > > > have the drives to spare. > > > > Indeed, Kevin is right. At the FreeBSDCon he showed me some > > interesting results running ufs on striped plexes with different > > stripe sizes. > > > > 2. You want to avoid putting all your superblocks on the same disk. > > Nowadays cylinder groups are almost always 32 MB, so any power of > > 2 stripe size will give rise to this undesirable situation. Kevin > > gave me some interesting input on the effect this has on > > performance, but it's quite a difficult problem. I'm planning to > > provide a program to work out optimal stripe sizes, but it's not > > ready yet. The principle is simple, though: spread the > > superblocks equally across all disks. > > >When I used a stripe size of 256k or 512k, I ended up with about 90% of my >disk accesses going on drive 0, and the remaining 10% spread across the >other three drives. This was mostly because my application created HUGE >directories with tons of very small files, I'm guessing. > >After playing with things for far too long, I ended up with some very very >unusual number, that seemed to work best... It probably works for the wrong >reasons, but a co-worker suggested that I try a (prime number * 512) that >ended up being close to 256k. I think just the fact that it was just an >oddball number worked well, the fact that it was prime has nothing to do >with it. :) > >In short, picking something that doesn't end up as an integer if you do: > > ((32M / stripesize) / numdrives) > >was as close as I came to figuring out how to make it not beat one drive to >death. :) Thanks for the great info and sharing your insights after "playing with things for far too long". Found this post from Kevin Street in the archives: I tried changing the newfs cylinders/group to 19 (from 16) but this had little effect. I then rebuilt my vinum plex with a stripe size of 257k (rather than 256k) and newfs -c 19 and this works MUCH better. I now see very even distribution of io during the restore, directory operations and general file access. Prime numbers == good. Sound good to you? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 22: 1:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from floozy.zytek.com (floozy.zytek.com [63.198.33.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC8737BB84 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:01:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mccord@floozy.zytek.com) Received: (from mccord@localhost) by floozy.zytek.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA46178; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:01:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mccord) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:01:45 -0800 (PST) From: Samara McCord Message-Id: <200003080601.WAA46178@floozy.zytek.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, lambert@cswnet.com Subject: Re: Am I being spammed? Or is egroups this impolite? In-Reply-To: <200003080348.VAA04996@radius2.csw.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Consider sending an incident report to cert.org (see www.cert.org). Maybe they can piece it together with other attacks. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 7 22:10:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5439737B68E for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:10:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12SZd6-0001Dn-00; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:07:32 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:07:31 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: lambert@cswnet.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Am I being spammed? Or is egroups this impolite? In-Reply-To: <200003080348.VAA04996@radius2.csw.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > Hi, > > I have an immediate problem wherein I am seeing a heinous number of > sumultanious connects claiming to be from egroups.com. > > The IPs are in the 208.50.144, 208.48.218, and 208.49.160 Class-Cs. I > cannot lookup by name these connections. > > Is this standard practice for egroups or had somebody faked up a lot of > DNS? > > This barrage has brought both my MX servers to their knees. EGroups sends e-mail to a mailing list sorted by domain. They use Qmail, so they send to one recipient per connection. So if you have a 100 people at your domain get EGroups e-mail, in a short period of time, EGroups will open a 100 connections to your mail server(s). Hopefully you can handle it. This results in a EGroups cutting a swath through the internet every time they do a mailing. You should probably set your maximum connection limit to something that your servers can handle. Switching from Sendmail to Postfix should help. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 8 2:15:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A41A37B54B for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:15:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id 439D9146E8; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:15:26 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:15:26 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson To: lambert@cswnet.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Am I being spammed? Or is egroups this impolite? Message-ID: <20000308101526.A65803@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <200003080348.VAA04996@radius2.csw.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: <200003080348.VAA04996@radius2.csw.net>; from lambert@cswnet.com on Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 09:45:25PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The IPs are in the 208.50.144, 208.48.218, and 208.49.160 Class-Cs. I > cannot lookup by name these connections. whois is your friend :-) (for looking up IP addresses, try -a, -r, -R, -p, or -h whois.radb.net). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 8 5:26:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F0937C00D for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 05:26:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA34533; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:26:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: lambert@cswnet.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Am I being spammed? Or is egroups this impolite? In-Reply-To: <200003080348.VAA04996@radius2.csw.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I tihnk its a big mailing list site - I had a similar problem for awhile - I have them in my spam blocker tables - so everything they try they get back. On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > Hi, > > I have an immediate problem wherein I am seeing a heinous number of > sumultanious connects claiming to be from egroups.com. > > The IPs are in the 208.50.144, 208.48.218, and 208.49.160 Class-Cs. I > cannot lookup by name these connections. > > Is this standard practice for egroups or had somebody faked up a lot of > DNS? > > This barrage has brought both my MX servers to their knees. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 8 9:11:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from troi.csw.net (troi.csw.net [209.136.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE4A37B595 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:11:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Received: from ssaos2.csw.net (ssaos2.csw.net [209.136.201.13]) by troi.csw.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA37753 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:11:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Message-Id: <200003081711.LAA37753@troi.csw.net> From: lambert@cswnet.com Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:45:29 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Am I being spammed? Or is egroups this impolite? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In , on 03/08/2000 at 09:45 AM, Tom said: >On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have an immediate problem wherein I am seeing a heinous number of >> sumultanious connects claiming to be from egroups.com. >> >> This barrage has brought both my MX servers to their knees. > EGroups sends e-mail to a mailing list sorted by domain. They use >Qmail, so they send to one recipient per connection. So if you have a >100 people at your domain get EGroups e-mail, in a short period of time, >EGroups will open a 100 connections to your mail server(s). Hopefully you >can handle it. This results in a EGroups cutting a swath through the >internet every time they do a mailing. I had 35 open connections from egroups to my primary MX for over 30 minutes. My secondary MX had over 30 connections from egroups at the same time. Is this a case of a clueless admin at egroups? Or are they just assuming that everyone else has 3 C-Classes of MX hosts also? I only have 20K mailboxes. > You should probably set your maximum connection limit to something that >your servers can handle. Switching from Sendmail to Postfix should help. I was running out of file handles : /tmp/RxB37043: Too many open files in system So I guess I'll have to rebuild the kernel. I'll take this as an oportunity to upgrade from Jun 30 3.2-STABLE. I'm still a newbie BSD admin. I've only been immersed in *nix for the last 18 months (working my way through a backlog of stuff, 2.1.6, that should have been done a long time ago). I'm still not confident enough of my ability to convert a production box to Postfix without making a lot of customers mad. Fortunately, this is my next priority item. -- Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com Systems and Security Administrator CSW Net, Inc. ================================================================ Written: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 09:45 AM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 8 9:14:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E158E37C4C6 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:14:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA46620; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:14:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:14:27 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: lambert@cswnet.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Am I being spammed? Or is egroups this impolite? In-Reply-To: <200003081711.LAA37753@troi.csw.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can set max connections per minute in sendmail, max children total, etc to minimize the impact of jerk sites like egroups. On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > In , on 03/08/2000 > at 09:45 AM, Tom said: > > > >On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have an immediate problem wherein I am seeing a heinous number of > >> sumultanious connects claiming to be from egroups.com. > >> > >> This barrage has brought both my MX servers to their knees. > > > EGroups sends e-mail to a mailing list sorted by domain. They use > >Qmail, so they send to one recipient per connection. So if you have a > >100 people at your domain get EGroups e-mail, in a short period of time, > >EGroups will open a 100 connections to your mail server(s). Hopefully you > >can handle it. This results in a EGroups cutting a swath through the > >internet every time they do a mailing. > > I had 35 open connections from egroups to my primary MX for over 30 minutes. My secondary MX had over 30 connections from egroups at the same time. Is this a case of a clueless admin at egroups? Or are they just assuming that everyone else has 3 C-Classes of MX hosts also? I only have 20K mailboxes. > > > You should probably set your maximum connection limit to something that > >your servers can handle. Switching from Sendmail to Postfix should help. > > I was running out of file handles : > > /tmp/RxB37043: Too many open files in system > > So I guess I'll have to rebuild the kernel. I'll take this as an oportunity to upgrade from Jun 30 3.2-STABLE. > > I'm still a newbie BSD admin. I've only been immersed in *nix for the last 18 months (working my way through a backlog of stuff, 2.1.6, that should have been done a long time ago). I'm still not confident enough of my ability to convert a production box to Postfix without making a lot of customers mad. Fortunately, this is my next priority item. > > -- > Scott Lambert > lambert@cswnet.com > Systems and Security Administrator > CSW Net, Inc. > ================================================================ > Written: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 09:45 AM > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 8 10:40:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from troi.csw.net (troi.csw.net [209.136.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1DA37BEA3 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:40:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Received: from ssaos2.csw.net (ssaos2.csw.net [209.136.201.13]) by troi.csw.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA71554 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:40:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Message-Id: <200003081840.MAA71554@troi.csw.net> From: lambert@cswnet.com Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:40:04 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Am I being spammed? Or is egroups this impolite? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In , on 03/08/2000 at 12:27 PM, Steve Hovey said: >You can set max connections per minute in sendmail, max children total, >etc to minimize the impact of jerk sites like egroups. I set MaxDaemonChildren last night. I see ConnectionRateThrottle and QueueFactor. ConnectionRateThrottle will just make it take longer for them to swamp me correct? It seems that it will also slow down connections from polite sites while egroups is pounding on me. Sorry for the long lines in the last message. For some reason I had the re-wrap on send turned off. Thanks to everybody for the helpful ideas. I think I can get them handled now. >On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: >> In , on 03/08/2000 >> at 09:45 AM, Tom said: >> >> >> >On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I have an immediate problem wherein I am seeing a heinous number of >> >> sumultanious connects claiming to be from egroups.com. >> >> >> >> This barrage has brought both my MX servers to their knees. >> >> > EGroups sends e-mail to a mailing list sorted by domain. They use >> >Qmail, so they send to one recipient per connection. So if you have a >> >100 people at your domain get EGroups e-mail, in a short period of time, >> >EGroups will open a 100 connections to your mail server(s). Hopefully you >> >can handle it. This results in a EGroups cutting a swath through the >> >internet every time they do a mailing. >> >> I had 35 open connections from egroups to my primary MX for over 30 minutes. My secondary MX had over 30 connections from egroups at the same time. Is this a case of a clueless admin at egroups? Or are they just assuming that everyone else has 3 C-Classes of MX hosts also? I only have 20K mailboxes. >> >> > You should probably set your maximum connection limit to something that >> >your servers can handle. Switching from Sendmail to Postfix should help. >> >> I was running out of file handles : >> >> /tmp/RxB37043: Too many open files in system >> >> So I guess I'll have to rebuild the kernel. I'll take this as an oportunity to upgrade from Jun 30 3.2-STABLE. >> >> I'm still a newbie BSD admin. I've only been immersed in *nix for the last 18 months (working my way through a backlog of stuff, 2.1.6, that should have been done a long time ago). I'm still not confident enough of my ability to convert a production box to Postfix without making a lot of customers mad. Fortunately, this is my next priority item. >> >> -- >> Scott Lambert >> lambert@cswnet.com >> Systems and Security Administrator >> CSW Net, Inc. >> ================================================================ >> Written: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 09:45 AM >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> -- Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com Systems and Security Administrator CSW Net, Inc. ================================================================ Written: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 12:27 PM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 8 14: 1:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A154737B64E for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:01:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 10930 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Mar 2000 09:00:59 +1100 Date: 9 Mar 2000 09:00:59 +1100 Message-ID: <20000308220059.10928.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> From: "John Saunders" To: "Nicole Harrington." Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache Hacking and Apparent Spoofing Problem X-Newsgroups: nlc.lists.freebsd-isp In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980818 ("Laura") (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.37 (i686)) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In nlc.lists.freebsd-isp you wrote: > Q1) The first one is that I have a customer whos server was/is getting hundreds > of lines like: www.joelpass.com -> /oops.html in the referer log. the ooops page > means they entered a bad passwd for entrance to the pay x-rated site on the > server. All of this seems somewhat normal except the lack of httpd:// and the > fact that there is no such domain as joelpass.com. Sounds like somebody is trying a brute force dictionary attack to find a valid password. > So how is someone doing this? IE how do they get referer to show this fake ID? Simple, set the "Referer" header when they send the request. This could be done by creating a page on this other site and linking to your password page. This other site could even be local to them, the referer header is passed as text and doesn't not need to be correct. However it's unlikely that they are using IE, if they are pounding away at the password page they may have an application that is simply forging the referer header. Do an alta vista search on joelpass, you may turn up something. > I thought it was dns based. DNS poisoning? They don't use their own dns, they > use a major internet providors dns. It's not DNS based but is text based and easily forgable. You should never base security around the referer, always use the IP address. > Q2) It seems that there is a website that is hacking into pay X-Rated sites > and providing free access to them via a click through on their system and they > are the ones responsible for the above. They seem to be offshore and their > clickthrough refering sites seem to come from all over. Is there anyway to stop > them? ( I like porn, but I also work for several pay sites that are getting hit > pretty hard by these asses. their password guessing has created huge bandwidth > spikes and if they guess one the site instantly becomes swamped) Even though the referer header is changing, the IP address should be fairly static. Sounds like Apache's allow and deny keywords would be useful. Order deny,allow Deny from 192.168.10.1 Allow from all P.S. I've spelt referrer as referer simply because it is incorrectly spelt in the HTTP standard. So if you went off searching using the correct spelling you wouldn't find anything. Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 04-1822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS P/L - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 9 11:31: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from matthew.uk1.vbc.net (matthew.uk1.vbc.net [194.207.2.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DCB37B85C for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:30:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdd@vbc.net) Received: from localhost (jdd@localhost) by matthew.uk1.vbc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA88987 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:30:58 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: matthew.uk1.vbc.net: jdd owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:30:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Jim Dixon X-Sender: jdd@matthew.uk1.vbc.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: recommend motherboard for 1U rackmount server Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: uk.vbcnet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone recommend a motherboard for a 1U rackmount server, preferably with * on-board video * on-board LAN (pref. Intel 10/100 fast ethernet) * on-board ECC and * ATX or microATX -- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net tel +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 9 16:27:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from vcnet.com (mail.vcnet.com [209.239.239.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10B2C37B8C1 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 16:27:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jpr@vcnet.com) Received: (qmail 89222 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2000 00:27:10 -0000 Received: from joff.vc.net (HELO ?209.239.239.22?) (209.239.239.22) by mail.vcnet.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2000 00:27:10 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38A95EA1.BEE65144@siteplus.com> References: <38A95EA1.BEE65144@siteplus.com> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 16:27:18 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jon Rust Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 9:11 AM -0500 2/15/00, Jim Weeks wrote: >There is a port based on apache 1.3.9 that includes fp, php, and ssl. You >would be able to find the URL if the mail archives were not down. If you >would be interested in building this port I have a tarball and would be glad >to place it somewhere for retrieval if you would like. Just let me know. > Anyone know if there are plans to incorporate this, or one like it, port into FreeBSD's ports? Or if the original port author plans on updating it to apache 1.3.12 and php 3.0.15? jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 9 16:58:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2E737B8B6 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 16:58:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfman@csocs.com) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.30] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id A8775C020138; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 17:57:27 -0700 Message-ID: <38C84B14.D3F21425@csocs.com> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 18:08:36 -0700 From: Jonathan & Charmane Frazier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Rust Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache References: <38A95EA1.BEE65144@siteplus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am the author and there are no plans on incorporating it into the ports tree. I've fought the fight and lost. So because of that, I haven't updated it. If you all would like it updated, I am willing to do it, but the other Apache maintainers aren't going to allow it to be put into ports. I think mainly because it steps on their toes and make the other php3, ssl, and fp ports worthless. Maybe those of you who have used this port and wish to see it updated and used could send mail to ports@freebsd.org. J.C. Frazier Jon Rust wrote: > At 9:11 AM -0500 2/15/00, Jim Weeks wrote: > >There is a port based on apache 1.3.9 that includes fp, php, and ssl. You > >would be able to find the URL if the mail archives were not down. If you > >would be interested in building this port I have a tarball and would be glad > >to place it somewhere for retrieval if you would like. Just let me know. > > > > Anyone know if there are plans to incorporate this, or one like it, > port into FreeBSD's ports? Or if the original port author plans on > updating it to apache 1.3.12 and php 3.0.15? > > jon > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 9 17:24: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha.net.au (mail2.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AB237B8C1; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:23:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyh@idx.com.au) Received: from freebsd.freebsd.org (surry-pool-186.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.186] (may be forged)) by mail.alpha.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA27788; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:24:11 +1100 From: Danny To: Jonathan & Charmane Frazier , Jon Rust Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:22:51 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <38C84B14.D3F21425@csocs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00031112262400.00345@freebsd.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, What can be very useful for ISPs and FreeBSD Ports is the following: - A port that installs Apache-1.3.9 + Php3.0.12 + MySQL so after I install this ports users can program in Php and QueryMySQL DB etc. Or someway of upgrading to the above without having to deal with messing up the virtual host settings etc. Looking forward to your feedback. dannyh dannyh@idx.com.au On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Jonathan & Charmane Frazier wrote: > I am the author and there are no plans on incorporating it into the ports tree. > I've fought the fight and lost. So because of that, I haven't updated it. If > you all would like it updated, I am willing to do it, but the other Apache > maintainers aren't going to allow it to be put into ports. I think mainly > because it steps on their toes and make the other php3, ssl, and fp ports > worthless. Maybe those of you who have used this port and wish to see it updated > and used could send mail to ports@freebsd.org. > > J.C. Frazier > > Jon Rust wrote: > > > At 9:11 AM -0500 2/15/00, Jim Weeks wrote: > > >There is a port based on apache 1.3.9 that includes fp, php, and ssl. You > > >would be able to find the URL if the mail archives were not down. If you > > >would be interested in building this port I have a tarball and would be glad > > >to place it somewhere for retrieval if you would like. Just let me know. > > > > > > > Anyone know if there are plans to incorporate this, or one like it, > > port into FreeBSD's ports? Or if the original port author plans on > > updating it to apache 1.3.12 and php 3.0.15? > > > > jon > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 9 18:52:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0096337B8D2 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:52:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA56426; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:52:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:52:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Jonathan & Charmane Frazier Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache In-Reply-To: <38C84B14.D3F21425@csocs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Jonathan & Charmane Frazier wrote: > I am the author and there are no plans on incorporating it into the > ports tree. I've fought the fight and lost. So because of that, I > haven't updated it. If you all would like it updated, I am willing to > do it, but the other Apache maintainers aren't going to allow it to be > put into ports. I think mainly because it steps on their toes and > make the other php3, ssl, and fp ports worthless. Maybe those of you > who have used this port and wish to see it updated and used could send > mail to ports@freebsd.org. I'm working on revamping the way Apache and Apache modules are built. I'm resigned to stepping on toes and raising a big stink. The current system for building Apache from ports sucks hard and if the current maintainers aren't willing to resolve the issues then they need to take a step back and ask themselves why they are 'maintainers'. Are you willing to maintain and test a 'mod_fp' port? I've got Apache, mod_ssl and mod_php[34] mostly sorted out and was going to attack mod_fp once I managed to atain sufficient courage. If you are in a position where you can test a 'mod_fp' port it would help me out quite a bit. Thanks. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 9 19:37:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cpq.nyi.net (cpq.nyi.net [204.248.157.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475AD37B8FD for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:37:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from javier@nyi.net) Received: from nyi.net (IDENT:root@cpq.nyi.net [127.0.0.1]) by cpq.nyi.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19958; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:35:28 -0500 Message-ID: <38C86D80.C123B9F0@nyi.net> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 22:35:28 -0500 From: Javier Frias Organization: NYI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15-2.5.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan & Charmane Frazier , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache References: <38A95EA1.BEE65144@siteplus.com> <38C84B14.D3F21425@csocs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There's definetely a lot of interest in the updating of your all in one port. Maybe you should get in touch with "Matthew N. Dodd" as he is working on revamping the way the apache ports are built ( i recollect from reading the port mailin glist ) also, just as a suggestion , have you looked at using this modified mod_frontpage from ftp://ftp.vr.net/pub/apache/mod_frontpage/ keep up the great work Jonathan & Charmane Frazier wrote: > > I am the author and there are no plans on incorporating it into the ports tree. > I've fought the fight and lost. So because of that, I haven't updated it. If > you all would like it updated, I am willing to do it, but the other Apache > maintainers aren't going to allow it to be put into ports. I think mainly > because it steps on their toes and make the other php3, ssl, and fp ports > worthless. Maybe those of you who have used this port and wish to see it updated > and used could send mail to ports@freebsd.org. > > J.C. Frazier > > Jon Rust wrote: > > > At 9:11 AM -0500 2/15/00, Jim Weeks wrote: > > >There is a port based on apache 1.3.9 that includes fp, php, and ssl. You > > >would be able to find the URL if the mail archives were not down. If you > > >would be interested in building this port I have a tarball and would be glad > > >to place it somewhere for retrieval if you would like. Just let me know. > > > > > > > Anyone know if there are plans to incorporate this, or one like it, > > port into FreeBSD's ports? Or if the original port author plans on > > updating it to apache 1.3.12 and php 3.0.15? > > > > jon > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message MMM \|/ www __^__ (o o) @ @ (O-O) /(o o)\ -ooO-(_)-Ooo---oOO-(_)-OOo---oOO--(_)--OOo---oOO==(_)==OOo Javier A. Frias Sr. System Administrator The New York Internet Company 20 Exchange Place 21st Floor New York, N.Y. 10005 "Error #152 - Windows not found: (C)heer (P)arty (D)ance" --------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 9 21:21:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF76C37B869 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:21:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA57949; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 23:21:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <01a901bf8a50$87e7dec0$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: References: Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 23:21:45 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.3825.400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Matthew N. Dodd" > Are you willing to maintain and test a 'mod_fp' port? I've got Apache, > mod_ssl and mod_php[34] mostly sorted out and was going to attack mod_fp > once I managed to atain sufficient courage. If you are in a position > where you can test a 'mod_fp' port it would help me out quite a bit. > Now that I have the Apache13-FP port updated to the latest version and building a package, I'll be working on the mod_frontpage port Sat/Sun. Could yousend me your latest Apache ports so that I can be sure that it operates properly with the mod_frontpage port. Q. How are you handling the custom settings for each ports httpd.conf? Are you putting them into ...? Or does APXS put the appropriate LoadModule/AddModule entries in the httpd.conf when the port gets installed? I have a patch for apachectl that allows you to define which ports modules you want to use. i.e. apachectl start_FP_SSL_PHP3 apachectl will then start the server with "httpd -DFP -DSSL -DPHP3". I was also thinking of fixing the apache Makefile so that it would use an external Ports Config file: apache.ports: frontpage FP ssl SSL php PHP3 php4 PHP4 jserv JSERV This way we wouldn't have to patch the main apache port's Makefile for each new module port that gets submitted. It would use this file to create the appropriate LoadModule/AddModule .. entries in the httpd.conf-dist file. This file could also be used by the apache.sh script to determine which modules exist on the system and to configure apache to use them. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 9 21:35:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F7C37B928 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:35:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA57871; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:35:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:35:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache In-Reply-To: <01a901bf8a50$87e7dec0$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: > Now that I have the Apache13-FP port updated to the latest version and > building a package, I'll be working on the mod_frontpage port Sat/Sun. > Could yousend me your latest Apache ports so that I can be sure that > it operates properly with the mod_frontpage port. ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/ apache13.tgz mod_php4.tgz mod_ssl.tgz > Q. How are you handling the custom settings for each ports httpd.conf? Are > you putting them into ...? Actually installing ${PREFIX}/etc/apache/apache.conf.default-{php4,ssl,...} seemed like a better idea. > I have a patch for apachectl that allows you to define which ports modules > you want to use. > > i.e. apachectl start_FP_SSL_PHP3 > > apachectl will then start the server with "httpd -DFP -DSSL -DPHP3". Ah! Useful, though it may be nicer to suggest that the user simplify their life by setting up apache.conf correctly so that 'apachectl start' does what they want. This avoids the complication of having to accomidate all sorts of hacks to provide the ability for ports to register themselves with apachectl. > I was also thinking of fixing the apache Makefile so that it would use an > external Ports Config file: > > apache.ports: > frontpage FP > ssl SSL > php PHP3 > php4 PHP4 > jserv JSERV > > This way we wouldn't have to patch the main apache port's Makefile for each > new module port that gets submitted. You don't need to do anything with the apache port except install it to support additional modules built with APXS. > It would use this file to create the appropriate LoadModule/AddModule > .. entries in the httpd.conf-dist file. I don't think we need stuff at all. We install module specific apache.conf.default-foo and let the user tweak the stuff they want. I keep thinking that each module should come with a meta-file that presents all its configuration options in a format that a gui/web tool could parse and allow the user to configure stuff would be the way to go. > This file could also be used by the apache.sh script to determine which > modules exist on the system and to configure apache to use them. Ugh. Too much magic. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 9 22: 6:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC2E37B922 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:06:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12TIW9-0003eD-00; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:03:21 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 22:03:13 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: lambert@cswnet.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Am I being spammed? Or is egroups this impolite? In-Reply-To: <200003081711.LAA37753@troi.csw.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > > EGroups sends e-mail to a mailing list sorted by domain. They use > >Qmail, so they send to one recipient per connection. So if you have a > >100 people at your domain get EGroups e-mail, in a short period of time, > >EGroups will open a 100 connections to your mail server(s). Hopefully you > >can handle it. This results in a EGroups cutting a swath through the > >internet every time they do a mailing. > > I had 35 open connections from egroups to my primary MX for over 30 > minutes. My secondary MX had over 30 connections from egroups at the > same time. Is this a case of a clueless admin at egroups? Or are > they just assuming that everyone else has 3 C-Classes of MX hosts > also? I only have 20K mailboxes. If they have connect failures, they would have tried the secondary. > > You should probably set your maximum connection limit to something that > >your servers can handle. Switching from Sendmail to Postfix should help. > > I was running out of file handles : > > /tmp/RxB37043: Too many open files in system You should have set your maximum process limit to something your system can handle: MaxDaemonChildren. Take an opportunity to check all other servers and set appropiate limits. > So I guess I'll have to rebuild the kernel. I'll take this as an > oportunity to upgrade from Jun 30 3.2-STABLE. Not necessary on any 3.x system. "sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=X", where is X is bigger than it is now. Probably something 4 times the maximum process limit of sendmail would be good. > I'm still a newbie BSD admin. I've only been immersed in *nix for the > last 18 months (working my way through a backlog of stuff, 2.1.6, that > should have been done a long time ago). I'm still not confident > enough of my ability to convert a production box to Postfix without > making a lot of customers mad. Fortunately, this is my next priority > item. > > -- > Scott Lambert > lambert@cswnet.com > Systems and Security Administrator > CSW Net, Inc. > ================================================================ > Written: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 09:45 AM > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 0:35: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FFC37B88E for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:34:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs10.alcatel.fr (mailhub2.alcatel.fr [155.132.188.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id JAA19573; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:26:39 +0100 From: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Received: from frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr (frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.32]) by aifhs10.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with SMTP id JAA06821; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:28:23 +0100 (MET) Received: by frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C125689E.002F1717 ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:34:21 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALCATEL To: Jim Dixon Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:34:13 +0100 Subject: Re: recommend motherboard for 1U rackmount server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, There has been recently a post on a mailing list (perhpas this one) announcing the good compatibility of an Intel MB using the 440GX chipset (must be code name "Lancewood"). I was trying to buy some of these boards, but I can't get my distributor to tell me an availability date. I'm investigating Motorola Computer Products, which is also selling rackable x86 computers, using their motherboards. TfH Jim Dixon on 09/03/2000 20:30:58 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG cc: (bcc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) Subject: recommend motherboard for 1U rackmount server Can anyone recommend a motherboard for a 1U rackmount server, preferably with * on-board video * on-board LAN (pref. Intel 10/100 fast ethernet) * on-board ECC and * ATX or microATX -- Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net tel +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 0:44:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.innovativeinternet.net (saturn.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.164.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4773D37B990 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:44:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@innovativeinternet.com) Received: from adsl-61-24-232.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.24.232] (HELO innovativeinternet.com) by saturn.innovativeinternet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:43:45 -0500 Message-ID: <38C8B5BE.1B94818B@innovativeinternet.com> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:43:42 -0500 From: Jack Sasportas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The problem I see with this is that Microsoft Doesn't really support 1.3.9 let alone 3.12 with FrontPage. I like the idea though! "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Jonathan & Charmane Frazier wrote: > > I am the author and there are no plans on incorporating it into the > > ports tree. I've fought the fight and lost. So because of that, I > > haven't updated it. If you all would like it updated, I am willing to > > do it, but the other Apache maintainers aren't going to allow it to be > > put into ports. I think mainly because it steps on their toes and > > make the other php3, ssl, and fp ports worthless. Maybe those of you > > who have used this port and wish to see it updated and used could send > > mail to ports@freebsd.org. > > I'm working on revamping the way Apache and Apache modules are built. I'm > resigned to stepping on toes and raising a big stink. The current system > for building Apache from ports sucks hard and if the current maintainers > aren't willing to resolve the issues then they need to take a step back > and ask themselves why they are 'maintainers'. > > Are you willing to maintain and test a 'mod_fp' port? I've got Apache, > mod_ssl and mod_php[34] mostly sorted out and was going to attack mod_fp > once I managed to atain sufficient courage. If you are in a position > where you can test a 'mod_fp' port it would help me out quite a bit. > > Thanks. > > -- > | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | > | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | > | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- ___________________________________________________________ Jack Sasportas Innovative Internet Solutions Phone 305.665.2500 Fax 305.665.2551 www.innovativeinternet.com www.web56.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 1:47:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD8C37B6F9 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:47:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA60575; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:47:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:47:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Jack Sasportas Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache In-Reply-To: <38C8B5BE.1B94818B@innovativeinternet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Jack Sasportas wrote: > The problem I see with this is that Microsoft Doesn't really support > 1.3.9 let alone 3.12 with FrontPage. I like the idea though! Strange that the apache13-fp port is setup to use Apache 1.3.12... What do you mean by 'doesn't really support'? They probably don't really support running the BSDI Frontpage stuff on FreeBSD when it comes down to it. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 1:58:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.innovativeinternet.net (saturn.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.164.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429D337B986 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:58:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@innovativeinternet.com) Received: from adsl-61-24-232.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.24.232] (HELO innovativeinternet.com) by saturn.innovativeinternet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:58:50 -0500 Message-ID: <38C8C759.7604EF63@innovativeinternet.com> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:58:49 -0500 From: Jack Sasportas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org They claim they only support up to 1.3.3, and whenever there is a problem they blow you off since your not runing NT... Also there are some strange things that happen under 1.3.9 which don't happen under 1.3.6... "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: > On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Jack Sasportas wrote: > > The problem I see with this is that Microsoft Doesn't really support > > 1.3.9 let alone 3.12 with FrontPage. I like the idea though! > > Strange that the apache13-fp port is setup to use Apache 1.3.12... > > What do you mean by 'doesn't really support'? They probably don't really > support running the BSDI Frontpage stuff on FreeBSD when it comes down to > it. > > -- > | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | > | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | > | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | -- ___________________________________________________________ Jack Sasportas Innovative Internet Solutions Phone 305.665.2500 Fax 305.665.2551 www.innovativeinternet.com www.web56.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 2: 5:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0A237B9B5 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:05:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id 78F0613970; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:05:48 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:05:48 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson To: Jack Sasportas Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache Message-ID: <20000310100548.B67792@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <38C8B5BE.1B94818B@innovativeinternet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: <38C8B5BE.1B94818B@innovativeinternet.com>; from jack@innovativeinternet.com on Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 03:43:42AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 03:43:42AM -0500, Jack Sasportas wrote: > The problem I see with this is that Microsoft Doesn't really support 1.3.9 let > alone 3.12 with FrontPage. I like the idea though! Or FreeBSD, for that matter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 2:38:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from master.crimea.net (Master.crimea.net [212.3.116.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D59E37B993 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:38:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from artz@crimea.net) Received: (qmail 9379 invoked by uid 100); 10 Mar 2000 10:36:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20000310103621.9378.qmail@master.crimea.net> From: artz@crimea.net Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache In-Reply-To: <20000310100548.B67792@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> from "Stuart Henderson" at "Mar 10, 2000 10: 5:48 am" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:36:21 +0200 (EET) Reply-To: artz@crimea.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Please, let me know how can I use FPSE counter (fpcount.exe) in my pages. I did not fount any info about it on http://www.rtr.com Thanks, Art To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 2:40:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BBF37B9A5 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:40:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA61082; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 05:40:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 05:40:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Jack Sasportas Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache In-Reply-To: <38C8C759.7604EF63@innovativeinternet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Jack Sasportas wrote: > They claim they only support up to 1.3.3, and whenever there is a > problem they blow you off since your not runing NT... Also there are > some strange things that happen under 1.3.9 which don't happen under > 1.3.6... I think I see part of the problem. The frontpage module requires patches to the server source in order to support the proper execution of their tools, which are outside of the webserver root (I think.) They add 'char *execfilename;' to the request_rec struct and bits of hackery to use execfilename instead of filename. I'm pretty sure they could deal with this in FrontPageAlias but I've not yet managed to wrap my head around exactly what the patch is doing. Obviously this knocks FP out of the Apache New World Order. If someone wants to figure out how to make FP work without hacking apache, now would be a good time to stand up. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 3:10: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A55237BB3B for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:09:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthen@naiad.eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 475) id 850B4136AA; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:09:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:09:59 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson To: artz@crimea.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache Message-ID: <20000310110959.F67792@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <20000310100548.B67792@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> <20000310103621.9378.qmail@master.crimea.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000310103621.9378.qmail@master.crimea.net>; from artz@crimea.net on Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 12:36:21PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 12:36:21PM +0200, artz@crimea.net wrote: > Please, let me know how can I use FPSE counter (fpcount.exe) > in my pages. Check that the uid frontpage extensions run as has write access to the .cnt files in the user's _* directories. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 6: 7:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA6E37B9CC for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:07:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA01753; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:07:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-73.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.73) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma001751; Fri Mar 10 08:06:59 2000 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20000310080504.00a4b370@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:05:04 -0600 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <38C84B14.D3F21425@csocs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:52 PM 3/9/00 -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: >I'm working on revamping the way Apache and Apache modules are built. I'm >resigned to stepping on toes and raising a big stink. The current system >for building Apache from ports sucks hard and if the current maintainers >aren't willing to resolve the issues then they need to take a step back >and ask themselves why they are 'maintainers'. Personally think this is good, especially as someone that has had to tweak the ports to conform to my needs. This much easier with the basic apache13 port. What I really like is how p5-Apache can find apxs and the conf files even when the resides in a non-standard location. >Are you willing to maintain and test a 'mod_fp' port? I've got Apache, >mod_ssl and mod_php[34] mostly sorted out and was going to attack mod_fp >once I managed to atain sufficient courage. If you are in a position >where you can test a 'mod_fp' port it would help me out quite a bit. Willing to see if mod_php and mod_ssl behave similar to p5-Apache and make everyone happy. Also mod_perl and p5-Apache should be sorted out leaving only one version. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 6:38:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from icebox.venux.net (icebox.venux.net [216.120.166.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C055437BA1D for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:38:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matthew@venux.net) Received: from servbox.venux.net (servbox.venux.net [10.0.0.10]) by icebox.venux.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4F826202 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from son (son.venux.net [10.0.0.68]) by servbox.venux.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CBE2BD82 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:37:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000307101901.00a20200@mail.venux.net> X-Sender: mhag2@mail.venux.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:39:53 -0500 To: isp@freebsd.org From: Matthew Hagerty Subject: POP3 proxy possible? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I was wondering if there is a way to proxy a port, specifically pop3(110), to another computer. Something like: "If a connection comes in on my port 110, forward to ip:port" What I have is a firewall setup like this: Internet | | +--------+ +---------+ | router | | Bastion | +--------+ +---------+ | Perimeter Network | +--------------------------------------+ Real IP assignment | | +-----------+ | Firewall | | NATd IPFW | +-----------+ | +----------------------------------+ | Fake IP assignment 10.0.0.0/24 +------+ | pop3 | +------+ I need to enable external access of pop3 (I know, I know, but it is not my decision). The first problem is that an external pop3 client cannot route to a fake IP, so they have to pop3 to a real host, i.e. the bastion. The bastion would then forward the request to the firewall machine which knows how to route to the internal server. The bastion host also has a static route so it knows that 10.0.0.0/24 should be routed to the firewall. The second problem is that the firewall will only accept packets from the bastion host, so external pop3 clients cannot connect directly to the firewall machine to have the pop3 request forwarded. What I though I needed was a simple "port pass-though" program of some sort. I thought NATd could do this with the -reverse, -proxy_only, and -proxy_rule parameters, but I could not get it to work. I could not find any other docs or examples on NATd other than the man page, is there any? One other thing, can NATd be run without IPFIREWALL? In this case I don't need a firewall, so can I leave the option out of my kernel and just use IPDIVERT? Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Thank you, Matthew Hagerty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 6:45: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C02E37BF86 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:44:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA32749; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:44:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38C90A68.395BCAE@thehousleys.net> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:44:56 -0500 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Hagerty Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: POP3 proxy possible? References: <4.2.2.20000307101901.00a20200@mail.venux.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Hagerty wrote: > > Greetings, > > I was wondering if there is a way to proxy a port, specifically pop3(110), > to another computer. Something like: > > "If a connection comes in on my port 110, forward to ip:port" > > What I have is a firewall setup like this: > > Internet > | > | > +--------+ +---------+ > | router | | Bastion | > +--------+ +---------+ > | Perimeter Network | > +--------------------------------------+ > Real IP assignment | > | > +-----------+ > | Firewall | > | NATd IPFW | > +-----------+ > | > +----------------------------------+ > | Fake IP assignment 10.0.0.0/24 > +------+ > | pop3 | > +------+ > This is a snipit from the nat.cf of the FreeBSD firewall at a local school. I believe this is exactly what you want. # # Inbound SMTP redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.193:25 25 # # Inbound WWW redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.193:80 80 redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.193:2000 2000 redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.193:2001 2001 # # Inbound POP3 redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.193:110 110 Jim -- The wise man built his network upon U*nx. The foolish man built his network upon Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 6:58:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 87A2C37B9E8 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:58:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 44751 invoked by uid 1825); 10 Mar 2000 14:58:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Mar 2000 14:58:33 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:58:33 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Cc: Jim Dixon , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: recommend motherboard for 1U rackmount server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try looking for an Intel CA810AL Motherboard and a Celeron Socket 370 CPU. On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote: > > > Hello, > > There has been recently a post on a mailing list (perhpas this one) announcing the > good compatibility of an Intel MB using the 440GX chipset (must be code name "Lancewood"). > > I was trying to buy some of these boards, but I can't get my distributor to tell me an availability date. > > I'm investigating Motorola Computer Products, which is also selling rackable x86 computers, > using their motherboards. > > TfH > > > > > > Jim Dixon on 09/03/2000 20:30:58 > > > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > cc: (bcc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) > > > > Subject: recommend motherboard for 1U rackmount server > > > > > > > Can anyone recommend a motherboard for a 1U rackmount server, > preferably with > > * on-board video > * on-board LAN (pref. Intel 10/100 fast ethernet) > * on-board ECC > and > * ATX or microATX > > -- > Jim Dixon VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net > tel +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 7:25:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail-smtp.socket.net (mail-smtp.socket.net [216.106.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD5B37BA13 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:25:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vae@socket.net) Received: from socket.net (mail.socket.net [216.106.1.7]) by mail-smtp.socket.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA07072 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:26:54 -0600 Received: from vaevictus.socket.net ([216.106.1.37]) by socket.net ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:58:56 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:25:28 -0600 (CST) From: Vaevictus Asmadi To: Matthew Hagerty Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POP3 proxy possible? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000307101901.00a20200@mail.venux.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org SSH2 (and 1?) does port forwarding in the commandline... In a couple of instances, I just connected to the computer i want to forward to, and to keep the tunnel open, I executed a program that didn't exit. It's a bit messy, but it solves some of the problems related here. ssh2 otherhost -L localport:remotehost:remoteport is kinda how it works. This also has the advantage of encrypting the tunnel. not very useful with pop3, i'm afraid, but of course, this is a universal port forward process. n8 On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Matthew Hagerty wrote: > Greetings, > > I was wondering if there is a way to proxy a port, specifically pop3(110), > to another computer. Something like: > > "If a connection comes in on my port 110, forward to ip:port" > > What I have is a firewall setup like this: > > Internet > | > | > +--------+ +---------+ > | router | | Bastion | > +--------+ +---------+ > | Perimeter Network | > +--------------------------------------+ > Real IP assignment | > | > +-----------+ > | Firewall | > | NATd IPFW | > +-----------+ > | > +----------------------------------+ > | Fake IP assignment 10.0.0.0/24 > +------+ > | pop3 | > +------+ > > I need to enable external access of pop3 (I know, I know, but it is not my > decision). > > The first problem is that an external pop3 client cannot route to a fake > IP, so they have to pop3 to a real host, i.e. the bastion. The bastion > would then forward the request to the firewall machine which knows how to > route to the internal server. The bastion host also has a static route so > it knows that 10.0.0.0/24 should be routed to the firewall. > > The second problem is that the firewall will only accept packets from the > bastion host, so external pop3 clients cannot connect directly to the > firewall machine to have the pop3 request forwarded. > > What I though I needed was a simple "port pass-though" program of some > sort. I thought NATd could do this with the -reverse, -proxy_only, and > -proxy_rule parameters, but I could not get it to work. I could not find > any other docs or examples on NATd other than the man page, is there any? > > One other thing, can NATd be run without IPFIREWALL? In this case I don't > need a firewall, so can I leave the option out of my kernel and just use > IPDIVERT? > > Any insight would be greatly appreciated! > > Thank you, > Matthew Hagerty > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- *------------------------------------* "Art may imitate life, but life imitates TV." --- Ani Difranco, Superhero *------------------------------------* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 12: 5:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (msb-ts-slip09.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.28.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5125E37BAC2 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:05:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 22785 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2000 20:05:20 -0000 Received: from hydrant.abuselabs.com (HELO hydrant) (@192.168.0.1) by hydrant.abuselabs.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2000 20:05:20 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:05:20 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: Matthew Hagerty Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POP3 proxy possible? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000307101901.00a20200@mail.venux.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ipfw add fwd ip.address,port from any to my.ip.address.com 110 On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Matthew Hagerty wrote: > Greetings, > > I was wondering if there is a way to proxy a port, specifically pop3(110), > to another computer. Something like: > > "If a connection comes in on my port 110, forward to ip:port" > > What I have is a firewall setup like this: > > Internet > | > | > +--------+ +---------+ > | router | | Bastion | > +--------+ +---------+ > | Perimeter Network | > +--------------------------------------+ > Real IP assignment | > | > +-----------+ > | Firewall | > | NATd IPFW | > +-----------+ > | > +----------------------------------+ > | Fake IP assignment 10.0.0.0/24 > +------+ > | pop3 | > +------+ > > I need to enable external access of pop3 (I know, I know, but it is not my > decision). > > The first problem is that an external pop3 client cannot route to a fake > IP, so they have to pop3 to a real host, i.e. the bastion. The bastion > would then forward the request to the firewall machine which knows how to > route to the internal server. The bastion host also has a static route so > it knows that 10.0.0.0/24 should be routed to the firewall. > > The second problem is that the firewall will only accept packets from the > bastion host, so external pop3 clients cannot connect directly to the > firewall machine to have the pop3 request forwarded. > > What I though I needed was a simple "port pass-though" program of some > sort. I thought NATd could do this with the -reverse, -proxy_only, and > -proxy_rule parameters, but I could not get it to work. I could not find > any other docs or examples on NATd other than the man page, is there any? > > One other thing, can NATd be run without IPFIREWALL? In this case I don't > need a firewall, so can I leave the option out of my kernel and just use > IPDIVERT? > > Any insight would be greatly appreciated! > > Thank you, > Matthew Hagerty > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Omachonu Ogali oogali@intranova.net | | Intranova Networking Group http://tribune.intranova.net | | PGP Key ID: 0xBFE60839 | | PGP Fingerprint: C8 51 14 FD 2A 87 53 D1 E3 AA 12 12 01 93 BD 34 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 12:50:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5EB37BC60; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:48:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA08703; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:45:37 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00469; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:35:30 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200003100835.IAA00469@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Nik Clayton Cc: Lee Johnston , freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons In-Reply-To: Message from Nik Clayton of "Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:25:57 GMT." <20000310012557.A22043@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:35:30 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Something else to consider -- I'd like to get example config files, > scripts, and so on, for /usr/share/examples, for the UK. > > For example, a /usr/share/examples/ppp/uk/ directory, with sample ppp.conf > files for Demon, Pavilion, Freeserve, BT, ..., DNS configurations, and so > on. > > Perhaps a /usr/share/examples/isp/uk/ directory hierarchy might be better, > > .../examples/isp/uk/$ISP/ppp > namedb > sendmail > leafnode > inn > squid > > and other directories, each one containing commented configuration files > suitable for $ISP (Demon, Pavilion, Freeserve, and so on). If others jump on the bandwagon, this'll be good. If they don't, it may look a bit half baked (witness the PGP keys in the handbook - *VERY* slow to materialise !). I can supply configs for a lot of these services for Demon, Force9, Pavilion and BT. It's interesting though, I think what we actually need is a script/program that will generate the config files based on a database of "isp specifics". These specifics would contain things like phone numbers, dial strings, DNS negotiation flags, web proxy name, news server name, newsfeed or inews style posting, hostname or domain and finally, services supported. The script would then get some generic templates, prompt for account specifics (if not supplied on the command line) and build the requisite config files. So, how about /usr/share/isp/defaults /usr/share/isp/uk/defaults /usr/share/isp/uk/pavilion /usr/share/isp/uk/demon /usr/share/isp/uk/bt /usr/share/isp/uk/force9 etc ? These files would contain the standard bourne shell variable assignments, and then there'd be genconfig [-pnmlis] [otheroptions] where the above flags generate configurations for ppp, named, mail, leafnode, innd and squid respectively. We'd also want flags like -d domain to auto-specify your domain etc. Any interest in something like this ? > Obviously, there needs to be a big hefty disclaimer at the front of all > these advising the user to double check them before using them, but it > might help save new users some trouble. > > The PPP configuration in sysinstall could then be modified to ask the user > whether they want to use a canned configuration for an ISP, and if so, to > select the ISP from a list. . . > > Thoughts? I think the main thing here is to make it easy to add new options - for example: /usr/share/isp/uk/someisp phone=1234567 services=ppp domain=someisp.co.uk Would tell the program that it can generate a ppp.conf with the standard template and only the phone number specified. It would then prompt for your authname/authkey and ask if you want to use a login script (it would generate one with \\U & \\P). Or /usr/share/isp/uk/demon phone=1234567 pppdns=false proxy=www-cache.demon.co.uk services=ppp,squid,leafnode where it prompts for your host/domain, authname and authkey, and allows you to configure squid using the given proxy) and leafnode using the standard news.domain. > N > -- > Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. > Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, > hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. > Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. > -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 12:51:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55C437BF2D; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:51:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA08703; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:45:37 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00469; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:35:30 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200003100835.IAA00469@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Nik Clayton Cc: Lee Johnston , freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons In-Reply-To: Message from Nik Clayton of "Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:25:57 GMT." <20000310012557.A22043@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:35:30 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Something else to consider -- I'd like to get example config files, > scripts, and so on, for /usr/share/examples, for the UK. > > For example, a /usr/share/examples/ppp/uk/ directory, with sample ppp.conf > files for Demon, Pavilion, Freeserve, BT, ..., DNS configurations, and so > on. > > Perhaps a /usr/share/examples/isp/uk/ directory hierarchy might be better, > > .../examples/isp/uk/$ISP/ppp > namedb > sendmail > leafnode > inn > squid > > and other directories, each one containing commented configuration files > suitable for $ISP (Demon, Pavilion, Freeserve, and so on). If others jump on the bandwagon, this'll be good. If they don't, it may look a bit half baked (witness the PGP keys in the handbook - *VERY* slow to materialise !). I can supply configs for a lot of these services for Demon, Force9, Pavilion and BT. It's interesting though, I think what we actually need is a script/program that will generate the config files based on a database of "isp specifics". These specifics would contain things like phone numbers, dial strings, DNS negotiation flags, web proxy name, news server name, newsfeed or inews style posting, hostname or domain and finally, services supported. The script would then get some generic templates, prompt for account specifics (if not supplied on the command line) and build the requisite config files. So, how about /usr/share/isp/defaults /usr/share/isp/uk/defaults /usr/share/isp/uk/pavilion /usr/share/isp/uk/demon /usr/share/isp/uk/bt /usr/share/isp/uk/force9 etc ? These files would contain the standard bourne shell variable assignments, and then there'd be genconfig [-pnmlis] [otheroptions] where the above flags generate configurations for ppp, named, mail, leafnode, innd and squid respectively. We'd also want flags like -d domain to auto-specify your domain etc. Any interest in something like this ? > Obviously, there needs to be a big hefty disclaimer at the front of all > these advising the user to double check them before using them, but it > might help save new users some trouble. > > The PPP configuration in sysinstall could then be modified to ask the user > whether they want to use a canned configuration for an ISP, and if so, to > select the ISP from a list. . . > > Thoughts? I think the main thing here is to make it easy to add new options - for example: /usr/share/isp/uk/someisp phone=1234567 services=ppp domain=someisp.co.uk Would tell the program that it can generate a ppp.conf with the standard template and only the phone number specified. It would then prompt for your authname/authkey and ask if you want to use a login script (it would generate one with \\U & \\P). Or /usr/share/isp/uk/demon phone=1234567 pppdns=false proxy=www-cache.demon.co.uk services=ppp,squid,leafnode where it prompts for your host/domain, authname and authkey, and allows you to configure squid using the given proxy) and leafnode using the standard news.domain. > N > -- > Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. > Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, > hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. > Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. > -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 15:48: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from almazs.pacex.net (almazs.pacex.net [204.1.219.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8807837B999; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:47:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danielb@pacex.net) Received: from almazs.pacex.net (almazs.pacex.net [204.1.219.156]) by almazs.pacex.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04772; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:47:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:47:45 -0800 (PST) From: "Dan B. " To: Danny Cc: Jonathan & Charmane Frazier , Jon Rust , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache(/PHP+SSL upgrade) In-Reply-To: <00031112262400.00345@freebsd.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am with you all the way!! I have held-off upgrading to mySQL and SSL because of fears that existing customers virtual web would be screewed, I don't care about FP extensions but Apache+PHP+mySQL+SSL would be great, I am still looking for SAFE UPGRADE procedures to the extent that I have setup a seperate machine just to try it out on non-production web server. Dan > > Hello, > > What can be very useful for ISPs and FreeBSD Ports is the following: - > > A port that installs Apache-1.3.9 + Php3.0.12 + MySQL so after I install this > ports users can program in Php and QueryMySQL DB etc. > > Or someway of upgrading to the above without having to deal with messing up the > virtual host settings etc. > > Looking forward to your feedback. > > dannyh > > dannyh@idx.com.au > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Jonathan & Charmane Frazier wrote: > > I am the author and there are no plans on incorporating it into the ports tree. > > I've fought the fight and lost. So because of that, I haven't updated it. If > > you all would like it updated, I am willing to do it, but the other Apache > > maintainers aren't going to allow it to be put into ports. I think mainly > > because it steps on their toes and make the other php3, ssl, and fp ports > > worthless. Maybe those of you who have used this port and wish to see it updated > > and used could send mail to ports@freebsd.org. > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > Jon Rust wrote: > > > > > At 9:11 AM -0500 2/15/00, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > >There is a port based on apache 1.3.9 that includes fp, php, and ssl. You > > > >would be able to find the URL if the mail archives were not down. If you > > > >would be interested in building this port I have a tarball and would be glad > > > >to place it somewhere for retrieval if you would like. Just let me know. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone know if there are plans to incorporate this, or one like it, > > > port into FreeBSD's ports? Or if the original port author plans on > > > updating it to apache 1.3.12 and php 3.0.15? > > > > > > jon > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 16:10:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7B637BB9B; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dom@happygiraffe.net) Received: from myrddin.demon.co.uk ([158.152.54.180]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12TZTf-0002ji-0K; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 00:09:56 +0000 Received: by myrddin.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0FC3E2312; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 00:09:31 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 00:09:31 +0000 To: Brian Somers Cc: Nik Clayton , Lee Johnston , freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons Message-ID: <20000311000931.A349@myrddin.demon.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Brian Somers , Nik Clayton , Lee Johnston , freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org References: <200003100835.IAA00469@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <200003100835.IAA00469@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>; from Brian Somers on Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 08:35:30AM +0000 From: dom@happygiraffe.net (Dominic Mitchell) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 08:35:30AM +0000, Brian Somers wrote: > I can supply configs for a lot of these services for Demon, > Force9, Pavilion and BT. It's interesting though, I think what we > actually need is a script/program that will generate the config files > based on a database of "isp specifics". These specifics would > contain things like phone numbers, dial strings, DNS negotiation flags, > web proxy name, news server name, newsfeed or inews style posting, > hostname or domain and finally, services supported. The script would > then get some generic templates, prompt for account specifics (if not > supplied on the command line) and build the requisite config files. You mean a wizard. :-) > So, how about > > /usr/share/isp/defaults > /usr/share/isp/uk/defaults > /usr/share/isp/uk/pavilion > /usr/share/isp/uk/demon > /usr/share/isp/uk/bt > /usr/share/isp/uk/force9 > > etc ? These files would contain the standard bourne shell variable > assignments, and then there'd be > > genconfig [-pnmlis] [otheroptions] > > where the above flags generate configurations for ppp, named, mail, > leafnode, innd and squid respectively. We'd also want flags like > -d domain to auto-specify your domain etc. > > Any interest in something like this ? Sounds like an excellent idea. Whilst one can shoehorn everything into one big ppp.conf and call it as necessary, the other config files would be a lot more difficult. > I think the main thing here is to make it easy to add new options - > for example: > > /usr/share/isp/uk/someisp > phone=1234567 > services=ppp > domain=someisp.co.uk > > Would tell the program that it can generate a ppp.conf with the > standard template and only the phone number specified. It would then > prompt for your authname/authkey and ask if you want to use a login > script (it would generate one with \\U & \\P). Or > > /usr/share/isp/uk/demon > phone=1234567 > pppdns=false > proxy=www-cache.demon.co.uk > services=ppp,squid,leafnode > > where it prompts for your host/domain, authname and authkey, and allows > you to configure squid using the given proxy) and leafnode using the > standard news.domain. This sounds more and more interesting. Why didn't somebody do this years ago? I'll have a go at throwing together a sample implementation tonight (it's only midnight and I'm bored :) and see what I come up with. -Dom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 16:49:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gamera.comnetcom.net (ns1.comnetcom.net [209.100.247.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E2537BB32 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:49:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@comnetcom.net) Received: from jeff (jeff.comnetcom.net [209.100.247.124]) by gamera.comnetcom.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA17962 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:51:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000f01bf8af3$9c1d11a0$7cf764d1@comnetcom.net> From: "Jeff Tolley" To: Subject: named problem Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:49:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have been experiencing a problem with a nameserver on our network. Once every two days or so, when I go to do an nslookup I get: trinity# nslookup *** Can't find server name for address 209.100.247.201: Server failed *** Default servers are not available trinity# ps -aux | grep name root 73471 0.0 1.4 2040 1776 ?? Ss Wed02PM 1:18.96 /usr/sbin/named restarting (kill -9 PID / running named) will correct this problem (-HUP won't work). and it's good for a few days. I can't find anything in any logs (/var/log/messages, etc) nor do I see anything in named.run (debug level 1). Anybody have any ideas on what could be causing this? ---- Jeff Tolley - jeff@comnetcom.net Senior Systems Engineer Network Operations Center - noc@comnetcom.net Com Net Communications System, Inc. Voice: 219-934-9000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 16:51:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (spooky.eis.net.au [203.12.171.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B7537B8F0 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:51:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ernie@spooky.eis.net.au) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.9.3/8.8.3) id KAA70264; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:51:03 +1000 (EST) From: Ernie Elu Message-Id: <200003110051.KAA70264@spooky.eis.net.au> Subject: Re: recommend motherboard for 1U rackmount server In-Reply-To: from "up@3.am" at "Mar 10, 0 09:58:33 am" To: up@3.am Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:51:02 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Try looking for an Intel CA810AL Motherboard and a Celeron Socket 370 CPU. > A good resource is http://www.motherboards.org 1U cases from http://www.icp.net.au/chassis/2ru-rack/default.html Also some single board computers http://www.advantech.com.tw/products/sbc.htm Let us know what you finally settle on, I use a lot of Cobalt Raq2 hardware for space saving, but I find there linux clumsy so I would like to do the same using FreeBSD. - Ernie. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 10 23: 3:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (tunnel0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A58B37B5B8 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:03:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA22281; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:03:08 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:03:06 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: aussie-isp@aussie.net Subject: tagging IP packets travelling over internal network Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, (sent to both freebsd-isp, a FreeBSD ISP mailing list, and aussie-isp, a generic Australian ISP mailing list) I'm just about to move to a teired pricing system which offers different rates for server (proxy/news/email), national direct, and international direct, which will be calculated based on where the packet entered my network - eg if it comes via Telstra then it's considered national. The problem with this is that I have to account at 4 different inbound points, and something central has to collect this data from the individual points and apply them to a single account. (Accurate) accounting can't be done from a single point because some traffic will enter and leave via the same router, plus it's difficult to assume what is national and international based on the source alone. I've been thinking about doing something a bit different - accounting on the OUTBOUND side - if each packet is given an extra tag identifying which link it came in through. That way all accounting is done on the outbound side, with some sort of functionality to read/count and strip tags before passing them over the interface to the customer. Can arbitrary or experimental IP options be added to an IP packet? The tags would only be carried over the internal network and not passed on to any peers. I'm not too crash hot at coding otherwise I would probably have a go at hacking something together. (FreeBSD specific) ... perhaps the core IPFW code could be modified to allow addition (inbound) and removal (outbound) of tags? Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://info.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 1:10:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from midget.dons.net.au (daniel.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D242637B858 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 01:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from darius@guppy.dons.net.au) Received: from guppy.dons.net.au (root@guppy.dons.net.au [203.31.81.9]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA59561; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:40:27 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from darius@guppy.dons.net.au) Received: (from darius@localhost) by guppy.dons.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01708; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:40:01 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from darius) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:40:01 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Rowan Crowe Subject: RE: [Oz-ISP] tagging IP packets travelling over internal network Cc: aussie-isp@aussie.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11-Mar-00 Rowan Crowe wrote: > The problem with this is that I have to account at 4 different inbound > points, and something central has to collect this data from the > individual > points and apply them to a single account. > (Accurate) accounting can't be done from a single point because some > traffic will enter and leave via the same router, plus it's difficult to > assume what is national and international based on the source alone. Why don't you place machines at the entry points which log the information you need, and then have a central machine get the data off them and collate it appropriatly.. Gee, it sounds really simple said like that 8-) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 4: 5:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tardis.patho.gen.nz (tardis.patho.gen.nz [203.97.2.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE4D37BAF4; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 04:05:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jabley@tardis.patho.gen.nz) Received: (from jabley@localhost) by tardis.patho.gen.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA19541; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:04:26 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:04:25 +1300 From: Joe Abley To: Dominic Mitchell Cc: Brian Somers , Nik Clayton , Lee Johnston , freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons Message-ID: <20000312010423.A9783@patho.gen.nz> References: <200003100835.IAA00469@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20000311000931.A349@myrddin.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000311000931.A349@myrddin.demon.co.uk>; from dom@happygiraffe.net on Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 12:09:31AM +0000 X-Files: the Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 12:09:31AM +0000, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 08:35:30AM +0000, Brian Somers wrote: > > I can supply configs for a lot of these services for Demon, > > Force9, Pavilion and BT. If you fancy some south pacific flavour, I can supply a bunch of configs for New Zealand ISPs. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 4:35:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [62.104.201.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AFB37BBE9; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 04:35:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netchild@leidinger.net) Received: from [62.104.201.6] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12Tl6b-0005sv-00; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:34:53 +0100 Received: from [213.6.54.233] (helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 12Tl6V-0005S9-00; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:34:50 +0100 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01762; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:48:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200003111148.MAA01762@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:48:00 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache(/PHP+SSL upgrade) To: danielb@pacex.net Cc: dannyh@idx.com.au, wolfman@csocs.com, jpr@vcnet.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10 Mar, Dan B. wrote: > > I am with you all the way!! > I have held-off upgrading to mySQL and SSL because of fears that existing > customers virtual web would be screewed, I don't care about FP extensions > but Apache+PHP+mySQL+SSL would be great, I am still looking for SAFE > UPGRADE procedures to the extent that I have setup a seperate machine just > to try it out on non-production web server. What are you trying to say here? Do you have Apache+PHP installed and want to add mySQL+SSL? What about cd-ing into ports/www/apache13-php3 and tell it to use MySQL+SSL too? If you have the same Version of Apache+PHP already installed just do a "make install -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER; apachectl graceful" and everything should work (you have to enable PHP/SSL in your apache.conf afterwards, just compare the old apache.conf.default with the new one). If you have an older version of Apache+PHP just do a "make;pkg_delete Apache...;make install;apachectl graceful". This is perhaps a little bit messy if you have a high volume (# of connections) webserver because apache could segfault, but if you increase MaxKeepAliveRequests/MaxSpareServers/StartServers/MaxClients while updating, it should work without annyoing your customers. Bye, Alexander. -- Intel: where Quality is job number 0.9998782345! http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander+Home @ Leidinger.net Key fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 4:57:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [212.174.120.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031B337B8F1 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 04:57:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA69358 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:56:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:56:35 +0200 (EET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail configuration question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org how can I set sendmail to not to relqay if there are more than 20 recipients for 1 email? thanks! Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 6:36:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.innovativeinternet.net (saturn.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.164.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAD237BBDC; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 06:36:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@innovativeinternet.com) Received: from adsl-61-24-232.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.24.232] (HELO innovativeinternet.com) by saturn.innovativeinternet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:36:04 -0500 Message-ID: <38CA59D3.5343EA59@innovativeinternet.com> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:36:03 -0500 From: Jack Sasportas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache(/PHP+SSL upgrade) References: <200003111148.MAA01762@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is the main problem loosing your config files ? Having only a few 200+ hosts I'm not sure if I am experiencing issues like you may be, and I would like to look ahead so to speak... Alexander Leidinger wrote: > On 10 Mar, Dan B. wrote: > > > > I am with you all the way!! > > I have held-off upgrading to mySQL and SSL because of fears that existing > > customers virtual web would be screewed, I don't care about FP extensions > > but Apache+PHP+mySQL+SSL would be great, I am still looking for SAFE > > UPGRADE procedures to the extent that I have setup a seperate machine just > > to try it out on non-production web server. > > What are you trying to say here? Do you have Apache+PHP installed and > want to add mySQL+SSL? > What about cd-ing into ports/www/apache13-php3 and tell it to use > MySQL+SSL too? > > If you have the same Version of Apache+PHP already installed just do a > "make install -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER; apachectl graceful" > and everything should work (you have to enable PHP/SSL in your > apache.conf afterwards, just compare the old apache.conf.default with > the new one). > > If you have an older version of Apache+PHP just do a > "make;pkg_delete Apache...;make install;apachectl graceful". > This is perhaps a little bit messy if you have a high volume (# of > connections) webserver because apache could segfault, but if you > increase MaxKeepAliveRequests/MaxSpareServers/StartServers/MaxClients > while updating, it should work without annyoing your customers. > > Bye, > Alexander. > > -- > Intel: where Quality is job number 0.9998782345! > > http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander+Home @ Leidinger.net > Key fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- ___________________________________________________________ Jack Sasportas Innovative Internet Solutions Phone 305.665.2500 Fax 305.665.2551 www.innovativeinternet.com www.web56.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 8:17:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (dns.megared.net.mx [200.52.207.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0697037BBF2 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 08:17:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from ales (ales.megared.net.mx [200.52.207.54]) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA43135; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:17:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Message-ID: <004501bf8b75$3f9001e0$020a0a0a@megared.net.mx> From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: "Evren Yurtesen" , References: Subject: RE: sendmail configuration question Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:17:07 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Just uncomment the following line, and change it to 20 in "/etc/sendmail.cf" file: O MaxRecipientsPerMessage=20 Greetings Ales ----- Original Message ----- From: Evren Yurtesen To: Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 6:56 AM Subject: sendmail configuration question > how can I set sendmail to not to relqay if there are more than 20 > recipients for 1 email? > > > > thanks! > > Evren > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 9:17:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cod.progroup.com (cod.progroup.com [207.44.190.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B354037BC93 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:17:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@progroup.com) Received: from progroup.com (guppy.progroup.com [207.44.190.237]) by cod.progroup.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA85560; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:17:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@progroup.com) Message-ID: <38CA7FCA.6E3166B5@progroup.com> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:18:02 -0800 From: Craig Shaver Organization: Productivity Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail configuration question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Do you mind if I ask why you want to do this? Is there a problem when you have that many people in an envelope? I have written some low level email programs for clients that uses the envelope to load up multiple recipients per domain. This is done because it is too expensive and time consuming to make multiple conections to the same domain. AOL and others often take a long time to connect. Up to half an hour and sometimes more. BTW, the mail was for a financial newsletter/alert that the recipients requested. thanks, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > how can I set sendmail to not to relqay if there are more than 20 > recipients for 1 email? > > thanks! > > Evren > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Craig Shaver, Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 (650)390-0654 http://www.progroup.com/ mailto:craig@progroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 9:56:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [62.104.201.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E7537BCBF; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netchild@leidinger.net) Received: from [62.104.201.6] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12Tq7s-0004T6-00; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:56:32 +0100 Received: from [213.6.44.231] (helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 12Tq7r-00086T-00; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:56:32 +0100 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04645; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:36:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200003111636.RAA04645@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:36:11 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache(/PHP+SSL upgrade) To: jack@innovativeinternet.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <38CA59D3.5343EA59@innovativeinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11 Mar, Jack Sasportas wrote: > Is the main problem loosing your config files ? No, the apache port did not overwrite your existing config (only *.conf.default). > Having only a few 200+ hosts I'm not sure if I am experiencing issues like you > may be, and I would like to look ahead so to speak... If it isn't a problem to disable the service for a minute just make the port, stop apache, make a copy of your config (just to be on the safe side, if I remember correctly the config isn't deleted by pkg_delete) pkg_delete the old apache port, install the new one, check the config and start the new apache. For me it worked the way I described it in my previous message, YMMV. Bye, Alexander. -- I believe the technical term is "Oops!" http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander+Home @ Leidinger.net Key fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 10:14:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C9537BB7C; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:13:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dom@happygiraffe.net) Received: from myrddin.demon.co.uk ([158.152.54.180]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12TqNl-000FOe-0V; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:12:58 +0000 Received: by myrddin.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6B02E2120; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:11:52 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:11:52 +0000 To: Brian Somers , Nik Clayton , Lee Johnston , freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) Message-ID: <20000311181152.A1206@myrddin.demon.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Brian Somers , Nik Clayton , Lee Johnston , freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org References: <200003100835.IAA00469@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20000311000931.A349@myrddin.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000311000931.A349@myrddin.demon.co.uk>; from Dominic Mitchell on Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 12:09:31AM +0000 From: dom@happygiraffe.net (Dominic Mitchell) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 12:09:31AM +0000, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 08:35:30AM +0000, Brian Somers wrote: > > So, how about > > > > /usr/share/isp/defaults > > /usr/share/isp/uk/defaults > > /usr/share/isp/uk/pavilion > > /usr/share/isp/uk/demon > > /usr/share/isp/uk/bt > > /usr/share/isp/uk/force9 > > > > etc ? These files would contain the standard bourne shell variable > > assignments, and then there'd be > > > > genconfig [-pnmlis] [otheroptions] > > > > where the above flags generate configurations for ppp, named, mail, > > leafnode, innd and squid respectively. We'd also want flags like > > -d domain to auto-specify your domain etc. > > > > Any interest in something like this ? > > Sounds like an excellent idea. Whilst one can shoehorn everything into > one big ppp.conf and call it as necessary, the other config files would > be a lot more difficult. > > > I think the main thing here is to make it easy to add new options - > > for example: > > > > /usr/share/isp/uk/someisp > > phone=1234567 > > services=ppp > > domain=someisp.co.uk > > > > Would tell the program that it can generate a ppp.conf with the > > standard template and only the phone number specified. It would then > > prompt for your authname/authkey and ask if you want to use a login > > script (it would generate one with \\U & \\P). Or > > > > /usr/share/isp/uk/demon > > phone=1234567 > > pppdns=false > > proxy=www-cache.demon.co.uk > > services=ppp,squid,leafnode > > > > where it prompts for your host/domain, authname and authkey, and allows > > you to configure squid using the given proxy) and leafnode using the > > standard news.domain. > > This sounds more and more interesting. Why didn't somebody do this > years ago? > > I'll have a go at throwing together a sample implementation tonight > (it's only midnight and I'm bored :) and see what I come up with. Right, I have a simple prototype ready. I've attached a file called ispsetup.tar.gz. Extract it in ~/tmp. I've only implemented ppp.conf setup, but others can work along similiar lines. Basically, it just collects parameters and m4's them into config files. It uses two file-hierarchies, .../isp, which is where the shell-style isp definition files are stored. Also, there is .../isp-templates which contains template configuration files, one per service. I've also set up the script to dump config files into .../isp-destdir, just so it doesn't overwrite your own config files! ispsetup also uses defaults files, like Brian described. To run it, just give it a filename, relative to .../isp. eg: $ ispsetup.sh uk/demon Optionally, you give a list of which services to configure on the command line after the file. This will be more useful when I've implemented more than one. :-) Comments: * It *really* needs a better interface. I think dialog would be good and would match tzsetup(8). * It really shows why you should do stuff like this in perl or python. Some of sh's programming constructs are very obscure and unmaintanable... * We need to sit down together and figure out 90% of the variables needed to configure each service for an isp. There are a number of issues involved. The biggie for me is how to do resolv.conf correctly, even in the case of multiple isp's (not all of them give DNS configuration through IPCP). * A number of configuration issues depend on which port/package has been installed. eg: sendmail vs postifx vs exim vs qmail or perhaps squid vs. wwwoffle. I'm not entirely sure how best to approach this. 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" To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: dannyh@idx.com.au, wolfman@csocs.com, jpr@vcnet.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache(/PHP+SSL upgrade) In-Reply-To: <200003111148.MAA01762@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > What are you trying to say here? Do you have Apache+PHP installed and > want to add mySQL+SSL? YES, > What about cd-ing into ports/www/apache13-php3 and tell it to use > MySQL+SSL too? Apache is already configured and running with PHP and FP extensions installed. I don't mind rebuilding Apache & PHP again but redoing the freaking FP extension is a disaster because all customer virtual webs will be affected; how? well, last time I redid Apache & FP some Fp customer website counters got reset, also I had to go to each fp web www.xyz.com:80.cnf and put the correct apache.conf PATH (New apache versions ALWAYS change the install dirs, *.conf file locations and this makes upgrading FP a pain)... > If you have the same Version of Apache+PHP already installed just do a > "make install -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER; apachectl graceful" > and everything should work (you have to enable PHP/SSL in your > apache.conf afterwards, just compare the old apache.conf.default with > the new one). OK sounds great, but how can I sneak-in mySQL as well? cause I already have Apache-1.3.9/PHP-3.0.12 running and want to end up with Apache/PHP/SSL/mySQL and ofcourse FP. Thanks Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 12:25: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris.netgate.net [204.145.147.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCBA37B815 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:24:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA64312; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:21:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:21:52 -0800 (PST) From: wellsian X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: Craig Shaver Cc: Evren Yurtesen , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail configuration question In-Reply-To: <38CA7FCA.6E3166B5@progroup.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's a good indication someone is doing something illicit. Allthough, the odds it's spam decreases with the number of addresses at my domain. Right? So this configuration shouldn't cause you a problem. AOL may allow huge numbers of destinations, and presumably their servers can handle it. But if someone tries to dump a message to more than a couple users at any of my personal domains then I know it's spam and will reject it. This limit isn't uncommon, especially with small servers. Any MTA, (especially a bulk-mailer) needs to know how to back off and do single address delivery. Dave On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Craig Shaver wrote: > Hi, > > Do you mind if I ask why you want to do this? Is there a problem when > you have that many people in an envelope? I have written some low level > email programs for clients that uses the envelope to load up multiple > recipients per domain. This is done because it is too expensive and > time consuming to make multiple conections to the same domain. AOL and > others often take a long time to connect. Up to half an hour and > sometimes more. > > BTW, the mail was for a financial newsletter/alert that the recipients > requested. > > thanks, > > Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > > how can I set sendmail to not to relqay if there are more than 20 > > recipients for 1 email? > > > > thanks! > > > > Evren > > > > -- > Craig Shaver, Productivity Group > POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 (650)390-0654 > http://www.progroup.com/ mailto:craig@progroup.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 12:34:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDAC37B84A; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 12:32:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18142; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:31:23 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA12980; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:31:10 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200003112031.UAA12980@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Brian Somers , Nik Clayton , Lee Johnston , freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ispsetup (was: Re: FreeBSD in Dixons) In-Reply-To: Message from dom@happygiraffe.net (Dominic Mitchell) of "Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:11:52 GMT." <20000311181152.A1206@myrddin.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:31:10 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I haven't looked at the code yet, but.... > Comments: > * It *really* needs a better interface. I think dialog would be good > and would match tzsetup(8). > * It really shows why you should do stuff like this in perl or python. > Some of sh's programming constructs are very obscure and > unmaintanable... probably true. > * We need to sit down together and figure out 90% of the variables > needed to configure each service for an isp. There are a number of > issues involved. The biggie for me is how to do resolv.conf > correctly, even in the case of multiple isp's (not all of them give > DNS configuration through IPCP). This has just got better. There's now (patch ready for Monday) a ``resolv'' command in ppp: resolv command This command controls ppps manipulation of the resolv.conf(5) file. When ppp starts up, it loads the contents of this file into memory and retains this image for future use. command is one of the follow- ing: readonly Treat /etc/resolv.conf as read only. If ``dns'' is en- abled, ppp will still attempt to negotiate nameservers with the peer, making the results available via the DNS0 and DNS1 macros. This is the opposite of the ``resolv writable'' command. reload Reload /etc/resolv.conf into memory. This may be necessary if for example a DHCP client overwrote /etc/resolv.conf. restore Replace /etc/resolv.conf with the version originally read at startup or with the last ``resolv reload'' command. This is sometimes a useful command to put in the /etc/ppp/ppp.linkdown file. rewrite Rewrite the /etc/resolv.conf file. This command will work even if the ``resolv readonly'' command has been used. It may be useful as a command in the /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup file if you wish to defer updating /etc/resolv.conf until after other commands have finished. writable Allow ppp to update /etc/resolv.conf if ``dns'' is enabled and ppp successfully negotiates a DNS. This is the oppo- site of the ``resolv readonly'' command. Most ISPs (are Demon the only ones that don't these days?) will negotiate DNS during IPCP. If they don't, we need to put them in the config file. We always want ``resolv restore'' in ppp.linkdown. Ppp is then happy to rewrite resolv.conf and put it back when it's done, but for those of us who use named, we want a small ``setdns'' script. I happen to have a rather crude one here that replaces the forwarders line in named.conf and HUPs named. I could tart it up a bit and the use of it could be based on /etc/rc.conf containing named_enable=YES. > * A number of configuration issues depend on which port/package has been > installed. eg: sendmail vs postifx vs exim vs qmail or perhaps squid > vs. wwwoffle. I'm not entirely sure how best to approach this. I reckon the aim should be to provide a list of possibilities, indicating which of these would need to be installed. The possibilities would be limited to what the writer understands/knows/ likes... > Anyway, have a look and let me know what you think. > > -Dom Will do. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 15:14:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E6737BDB0 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:14:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA67096; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:13:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38CAD336.CA2493CD@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:13:58 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0307 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Tolley Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named problem References: <000f01bf8af3$9c1d11a0$7cf764d1@comnetcom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeff Tolley wrote: > > I have been experiencing a problem with a nameserver on our network. Once > every two days or so, when I go to do an nslookup I get: > > trinity# nslookup > *** Can't find server name for address 209.100.247.201: Server failed > *** Default servers are not available > > trinity# ps -aux | grep name > root 73471 0.0 1.4 2040 1776 ?? Ss Wed02PM 1:18.96 > /usr/sbin/named > > restarting (kill -9 PID / running named) will correct this problem (-HUP > won't work). and it's good for a few days. > > I can't find anything in any logs (/var/log/messages, etc) nor do I see > anything in named.run (debug level 1). Anybody have any ideas on what could > be causing this? Problem A) You're using nslookup. Don't do that. Learn how to use dig and host. Problem B) You are apparently slave'ing your reverse zone from the nameservers that are authoritative for it. Your reverse zone is expiring from your nameserver because there is some problem with your master/slave relationship in that zone. Restarting it should keep that zone in cache for 1 week because you have a local copy of the file. After one week it expires, and you have this problem. Solving this problem is more difficult. Any reason you need to slave your reverse zone? Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 15:45:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A54E37BB90 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:45:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA67183; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:44:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38CADA75.A518768C@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:44:53 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0307 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Shaver Cc: Evren Yurtesen , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail configuration question References: <38CA7FCA.6E3166B5@progroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Shaver wrote: > > Hi, > > Do you mind if I ask why you want to do this? Is there a problem when > you have that many people in an envelope? I have written some low level > email programs for clients that uses the envelope to load up multiple > recipients per domain. This is done because it is too expensive and > time consuming to make multiple conections to the same domain. AOL and > others often take a long time to connect. Up to half an hour and > sometimes more. Have you looked at bulk mailer (in the ports). It's a great product, very useful for large mailing lists. Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 15:55:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from krell.webweaver.net (krell.webweaver.net [206.24.105.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369DE37BC64 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:55:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicole@unixgirl.com) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by krell.webweaver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8AC20F04 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:07:11 -0800 (PST) Content-Length: 1080 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:55:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Nicole Harrington." To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Softupdates On or not? Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all What is the best way to tell if a file system has softupdates applied or not. I used to see it in dmesg but now I am uncertain how to tell if I have applied softupdates to a file system or not. Hmm Did I apply softudates to var yet.... 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 16:31:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D358A37BBC3 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:31:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA67584; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:31:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <38CAE555.6358AC81@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:31:17 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0307 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Nicole Harrington." Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Softupdates On or not? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Nicole Harrington." wrote: > > Hello all > > What is the best way to tell if a file system has softupdates applied or not. 12$ mount /dev/da1s1g on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates, writes: sync 3313 async 10130, reads: sync 3949 async 308) /dev/da1s1f on /usr/obj (ufs, local, soft-updates, writes: sync 580 async 14650, reads: sync 3933 async 4) /dev/da1s1e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates, writes: sync 195 async 1806, reads: sync 281 async 20) -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 16:56:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538DB37BA4B for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:56:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aerosmith@earthlink.net) Received: from kindred (pool0666.cvx31-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.148.156]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA27004 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:56:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002601bf8bbe$a432c120$9c94b3d1@gryphonsoft.com> Reply-To: "Will Schroeder" From: "Will Schroeder" To: Subject: Hybrid Cable modems Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:02:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF8B7B.95600740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF8B7B.95600740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone, I apologize, I am not employed or anything like that with an ISP. = I'm simply a hybrid cable user that recently switched to FreeBSD 3.4 = Stable. I was hoping someone could tell me how I can get my com21 one = way cable modem running under FreeBSD. Will ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF8B7B.95600740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey everyone,
    I apologize, I am not employed or = anything=20 like that with an ISP. I'm simply a hybrid cable user that recently = switched to=20 FreeBSD 3.4 Stable. I was hoping someone could tell me how I can get my = com21=20 one way cable modem running under FreeBSD.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BF8B7B.95600740-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 16:59:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha.net.au (mail2.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778C637BA4B; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:59:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyh@idx.com.au) Received: from freebsd.freebsd.org (surry-pool-195.alpha.net.au [203.41.44.195] (may be forged)) by mail.alpha.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA22459; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:59:31 +1100 From: Danny To: "Dan B. " , Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions on Apache(/PHP+SSL upgrade) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:58:56 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: dannyh@idx.com.au, wolfman@csocs.com, jpr@vcnet.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00031312015601.00322@freebsd.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, sneak-in mySQL is very simple. But extensive testing is needed because it is a live box. All you need to do is zcat the file run the ./configure script recompile php3.0.12 recompile apache with php3.0.12 support On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Dan B. wrote: > On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > What are you trying to say here? Do you have Apache+PHP installed and > > want to add mySQL+SSL? > > YES, > > What about cd-ing into ports/www/apache13-php3 and tell it to use > > MySQL+SSL too? > > Apache is already configured and running with PHP and FP extensions > installed. I don't mind rebuilding Apache & PHP again but redoing the > freaking FP extension is a disaster because all customer virtual webs > will be affected; how? well, last time I redid Apache & FP some Fp > customer website counters got reset, also I had to go to > each fp web www.xyz.com:80.cnf and put the correct apache.conf PATH > (New apache versions ALWAYS change the install dirs, *.conf file locations > and this makes upgrading FP a pain)... > > > If you have the same Version of Apache+PHP already installed just do a > > "make install -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER; apachectl graceful" > > and everything should work (you have to enable PHP/SSL in your > > apache.conf afterwards, just compare the old apache.conf.default with > > the new one). > OK sounds great, but how can I sneak-in mySQL as well? cause I already > have Apache-1.3.9/PHP-3.0.12 running and want to end up with > Apache/PHP/SSL/mySQL and ofcourse FP. > > Thanks > > Dan > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 11 21:35:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cod.progroup.com (cod.progroup.com [207.44.190.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750ED37BCB3 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:35:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@progroup.com) Received: from progroup.com (guppy.progroup.com [207.44.190.237]) by cod.progroup.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA86313; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:35:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@progroup.com) Message-ID: <38CB2CB2.FA8C56F0@progroup.com> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:35:46 -0800 From: Craig Shaver Organization: Productivity Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail configuration question References: <38CA7FCA.6E3166B5@progroup.com> <38CADA75.A518768C@gorean.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Barton wrote: > > Craig Shaver wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Do you mind if I ask why you want to do this? Is there a problem when > > you have that many people in an envelope? I have written some low level > > email programs for clients that uses the envelope to load up multiple > > recipients per domain. This is done because it is too expensive and > > time consuming to make multiple conections to the same domain. AOL and > > others often take a long time to connect. Up to half an hour and > > sometimes more. > > Have you looked at bulk mailer (in the ports). It's a great product, > very useful for large mailing lists. > > Doug I believe the perl code I did was based on that very program. And this is what the original poster is trying to prevent. It sorts by domain and builds an envelope so that you can send multiple people the same email in one connection. Otherwise you end up spawning a connection for each address in the list. It looks like I will have to rework the code to figure out if the site is shutting me down. Then I will have to hammer him with 100 simultaneous connections, which will tie up more resources on both ends. I wonder how many people do this? -- Craig Shaver, Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 (650)390-0654 http://www.progroup.com/ mailto:craig@progroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message