From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 5 17:29:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.wemm.org (unknown [202.12.86.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA92137B4C5 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mobile.wemm.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA61TQK75981 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:29:27 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <200011060129.eA61TQK75981@mobile.wemm.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: WARNING: later VAIOs (eg: PCG-F690) with ATI chipsets == trouble Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 09:29:26 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The problem comes from having an 80K video bios (0xc0000 -> 0xd3ffff). This breaks two things: 1: the default pccard (oldcard) address is 0xd0000 and overlaps with the rom, which causes pccardd to see garbage instead of the CIS> 2: XFree86 carefully calculates the size of the ROM, and then memcpy's all 80K of it onto a 64K stack buffer. Sigh. ~ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati-114> diff -u2 /tmp/atipreinit.c.badshit atipreinit.c --- /tmp/atipreinit.c.BADSHIT Mon Nov 6 09:20:18 2000 +++ atipreinit.c Sun Oct 29 15:09:13 2000 @@ -327,5 +327,5 @@ ) { -# define BIOS_SIZE 0x00010000U /* 64kB */ +# define BIOS_SIZE 0x00014000U /* 80kB */ CARD8 BIOS[BIOS_SIZE], *pBIOS; # define BIOSByte(_n) (*((CARD8 *)(BIOS + (_n)))) This is just an expedient hack to get it working for me. It needs to be fixed properly. 3: NEWCARD doesn't seem to have any way to change the CIS window address. It merrily maps into 0xd0000 and then explodes in the kernel probe due to the "garbage" CIS there. After getting over the initial hurdles, I'm pretty happy with it. It isn't quite a Dell Inspiron 5000e, but it is close enough.. :-) Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 5 17:43: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (unknown [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BFD37B479 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:43:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA61h3n60291; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:43:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA05914; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:43:03 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011060143.SAA05914@harmony.village.org> To: Peter Wemm Subject: Re: WARNING: later VAIOs (eg: PCG-F690) with ATI chipsets == trouble Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2000 09:29:26 +0800." <200011060129.eA61TQK75981@mobile.wemm.org> References: <200011060129.eA61TQK75981@mobile.wemm.org> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:43:03 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200011060129.eA61TQK75981@mobile.wemm.org> Peter Wemm writes: : 1: the default pccard (oldcard) address is 0xd0000 and overlaps with the : rom, which causes pccardd to see garbage instead of the CIS> This is easy to change. : 3: NEWCARD doesn't seem to have any way to change the CIS window address. : It merrily maps into 0xd0000 and then explodes in the kernel probe due to : the "garbage" CIS there. It should. However, right now there's lots of things that NEWCARD does that are kinda bogus... Shouldn't we be doing the PnP BIOS recognition algorithms on the ROM area and not allowing any one to allocate the ROM area? How possible is that? IIRC from my reading of this stuff it should be really simple to add. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 5 18: 0:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (ad202.166.98.224.magix.com.sg [202.166.98.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC20F37B479 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:00:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eA61wwY03705; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:58:58 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from grog) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:58:52 +0800 From: Greg Lehey To: Julian Elischer Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: 802.11b access in Singapore Changi airport (was: cool) Message-ID: <20001106095852.A3648@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <20000615084805.E809@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000615084805.E809@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 08:48:05AM -0700 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, 15 June 2000 at 8:48:05 -0700, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 14 June 2000 at 1:00:27 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: >> >> So, if you are in the Singapore Changi international airport, >> the internet center in the transit area will loan you for FREE, >> a wavelan PC-CARD. >> >> So here I am waiting for my next flight and I'm on the net! >> (well they hold your passport in exchange but that's ok) >> >> I couldn;t get teh DHCP client to work, >> It kept saying: >> >> >> jules# /sbin/dhclient >> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists >> Listening on BPF/wi0/00:60:1d:1e:42:6c >> Sending on BPF/wi0/00:60:1d:1e:42:6c >> Can't find free bpf: No such file or directory >> exiting. >> >> And the log files showed.. >> >> Jun 14 00:54:37 jules /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xc0f85980) was (0xc0ee3000) >> Jun 14 00:54:37 jules dhclient: Can't find free bpf: No such file or directory >> Jun 14 00:54:37 jules dhclient: exiting. >> >> So I just did: >> # wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1 >> # tcpdump >> eventually a packet showed up, from the router at 192.100.100.1 >> so I just grabbed 192.100.100.2 (SHHHHHHHH!) >> >> now if I can get dhcp to work this would be great! > > Great stuff. Last but one time I was there (must have been a year > ago) I tried one of their Internet Cafe things, but I couldn't find an > active jack. > > So how do they expect people to get these things to work without DHCP? OK, I'm now in Changi myself, and I appear to be connected the way it was intended. You need to set the SSID to "ANY", no encryption, managed mode. The people I spoke to didn't know any of this, but we barely got by. Once you have that, you get: === grog@sydney (/dev/ttyp6) ~ 1 -> wicontrol -i wi0 NIC serial number: [ 00UT28336821 ] Station name: [ FreeBSD WaveLAN/IEEE node ] SSID for IBSS creation: [ ANY ] Current netname (SSID): [ SIA Lounge Wireless ] Desired netname (SSID): [ ] Current BSSID: [ 00:60:1d:f2:2a:17 ] Channel list: [ 2047 ] IBSS channel: [ 3 ] Current channel: [ 10 ] Comms quality/signal/noise: [ 6 60 54 ] Promiscuous mode: [ Off ] Port type (1=BSS, 3=ad-hoc): [ 1 ] MAC address: [ 00:02:2d:04:09:3a ] TX rate (selection): [ 3 ] TX rate (actual speed): [ 2 ] RTS/CTS handshake threshold: [ 2347 ] Create IBSS: [ Off ] Access point density: [ 1 ] Power Mgmt (1=on, 0=off): [ 0 ] Max sleep time: [ 100 ] WEP encryption: [ Off ] TX encryption key: [ 1 ] Encryption keys: [ ][ ][ ][ ] === grog@sydney (/dev/ttyp6) ~ 2 -> ifconfig wi0 wi0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::202:2dff:fe04:93a%wi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9 inet 196.168.1.68 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255 ether 00:02:2d:04:09:3a They appear to have blocked tracroute: === grog@sydney (/dev/ttyp6) ~ 3 -> traceroute freebie.lemis.com traceroute to freebie.lemis.com (192.109.197.137), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 196.168.1.1 (196.168.1.1) 2.781 ms 6.651 ms 8.375 ms 2 *^C but name services and ping work, and so does ssh. Check the headers on this message; I'd be interested to see what they say. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 5 18:35:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-178-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.178.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916D737B4C5 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA62eVF16279; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011060240.eA62eVF16279@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Warner Losh Cc: Peter Wemm , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WARNING: later VAIOs (eg: PCG-F690) with ATI chipsets == trouble In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:43:03 MST." <200011060143.SAA05914@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:40:30 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In message <200011060129.eA61TQK75981@mobile.wemm.org> Peter Wemm writes: > : 1: the default pccard (oldcard) address is 0xd0000 and overlaps with the > : rom, which causes pccardd to see garbage instead of the CIS> > > This is easy to change. > > : 3: NEWCARD doesn't seem to have any way to change the CIS window address. > : It merrily maps into 0xd0000 and then explodes in the kernel probe due to > : the "garbage" CIS there. > > It should. However, right now there's lots of things that NEWCARD > does that are kinda bogus... > > Shouldn't we be doing the PnP BIOS recognition algorithms on the ROM > area and not allowing any one to allocate the ROM area? How possible > is that? IIRC from my reading of this stuff it should be really > simple to add. We should be using the SMAP information. However, I get the impression that if the CardBus bridge is working properly we can actually put the attribute ROM in PCI space, which is much better than rummaging for holes in the 640-1M range. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 5 18:51:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14A337B4C5 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F25DD5730B; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:51:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:51:48 -0600 From: "Michael C . Wu" To: Peter Wemm Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WARNING: later VAIOs (eg: PCG-F690) with ATI chipsets == trouble Message-ID: <20001105205148.A412@peorth.iteration.net> Reply-To: "Michael C . Wu" References: <200011060129.eA61TQK75981@mobile.wemm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011060129.eA61TQK75981@mobile.wemm.org>; from peter@netplex.com.au on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 09:29:26AM +0800 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5025 F691 F943 8128 48A8 5025 77CE 29C5 8FA1 2E20 X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x8FA12E20 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do you mean PCG-F590? F690 does not seem to exist on www.sony.com. What exactly are the ATI chipsets? The newer VAIO laptops all use Neomagic 256XL+ for their video chips. (unless I am wrong) On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 09:29:26AM +0800, Peter Wemm scribbled: | The problem comes from having an 80K video bios (0xc0000 -> 0xd3ffff). | This breaks two things: | | 1: the default pccard (oldcard) address is 0xd0000 and overlaps with the | rom, which causes pccardd to see garbage instead of the CIS> Ah, this explains why I cannot get oldcard to work. However, have you gotten oldcard or newcard to work with another memory address? If so, what iomem did you use? | 2: XFree86 carefully calculates the size of the ROM, and then memcpy's | all 80K of it onto a 64K stack buffer. Sigh. Does this patch just fix the video support? or does it also resolve the pccard problem? I will test it tonight. | ~ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati-114> diff -u2 /tmp/atipreinit.c.badshit atipreinit.c | --- /tmp/atipreinit.c.BADSHIT Mon Nov 6 09:20:18 2000 | +++ atipreinit.c Sun Oct 29 15:09:13 2000 | @@ -327,5 +327,5 @@ | ) | { | -# define BIOS_SIZE 0x00010000U /* 64kB */ | +# define BIOS_SIZE 0x00014000U /* 80kB */ | CARD8 BIOS[BIOS_SIZE], *pBIOS; | # define BIOSByte(_n) (*((CARD8 *)(BIOS + (_n)))) | | This is just an expedient hack to get it working for me. It needs to be fixed | properly. | | 3: NEWCARD doesn't seem to have any way to change the CIS window address. | It merrily maps into 0xd0000 and then explodes in the kernel probe due to | the "garbage" CIS there. Right, same problem here with VAIO Z505JS. | After getting over the initial hurdles, I'm pretty happy with it. It isn't | quite a Dell Inspiron 5000e, but it is close enough.. :-) Bah, Let JHB keep his 1600x1200 15in screen. :-) -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 5 19:32:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (unknown [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781CD37B4CF; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA63Wln60666; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:32:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.11.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id eA63WsG03784; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:32:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011060332.eA63WsG03784@billy-club.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: WARNING: later VAIOs (eg: PCG-F690) with ATI chipsets == trouble Cc: Peter Wemm , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Nov 2000 18:40:30 PST." <200011060240.eA62eVF16279@mass.osd.bsdi.com> References: <200011060240.eA62eVF16279@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 20:32:54 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200011060240.eA62eVF16279@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mike Smith writes: : We should be using the SMAP information. However, I get the impression : that if the CardBus bridge is working properly we can actually put the : attribute ROM in PCI space, which is much better than rummaging for holes : in the 640-1M range. Except for 16-bit cards that can't decode that many address lines :-<. They only do like 20 or 24 lines. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 5 19:36:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-178-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.178.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF5337B479 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:36:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA63fAF16462; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:41:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011060341.eA63fAF16462@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Warner Losh Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WARNING: later VAIOs (eg: PCG-F690) with ATI chipsets == trouble In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Nov 2000 20:32:54 MST." <200011060332.eA63WsG03784@billy-club.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 19:41:10 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In message <200011060240.eA62eVF16279@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mike Smith writes: > : We should be using the SMAP information. However, I get the impression > : that if the CardBus bridge is working properly we can actually put the > : attribute ROM in PCI space, which is much better than rummaging for holes > : in the 640-1M range. > > Except for 16-bit cards that can't decode that many address lines > :-<. They only do like 20 or 24 lines. Are you misreading me, or is there some way to put a CardBus bridge on a "16-bit card"? I'm talking about where you map the attribute memory in host space... -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Nov 5 19:43:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (unknown [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFF137B4C5; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from billy-club.village.org (billy-club.village.org [10.0.0.3]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA63hOn60735; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:43:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@billy-club.village.org) Received: from billy-club.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by billy-club.village.org (8.11.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id eA63hWG03877; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:43:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011060343.eA63hWG03877@billy-club.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: WARNING: later VAIOs (eg: PCG-F690) with ATI chipsets == trouble Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Nov 2000 19:41:10 PST." <200011060341.eA63fAF16462@mass.osd.bsdi.com> References: <200011060341.eA63fAF16462@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 20:43:32 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200011060341.eA63fAF16462@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mike Smith writes: : > In message <200011060240.eA62eVF16279@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mike Smith writes: : > : We should be using the SMAP information. However, I get the impression : > : that if the CardBus bridge is working properly we can actually put the : > : attribute ROM in PCI space, which is much better than rummaging for holes : > : in the 640-1M range. : > : > Except for 16-bit cards that can't decode that many address lines : > :-<. They only do like 20 or 24 lines. : : Are you misreading me, or is there some way to put a CardBus bridge on a : "16-bit card"? : : I'm talking about where you map the attribute memory in host space... I may be misreading you. It might be possible to do that if the bridge does address translation for the card. I think it might, but I don't recall for sure. There are some cards that need to access the attribute memory to send network packets, but thankfully those are few and far between. There's certainly picture of doing this for the pcic based chips in my pcmcia book, so it is very likely that it would work with cardbus as well. For most cardbus cards, they store their CIS in their ROM space (which is different than the attribute memory area), which is likely why I was confused. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 0:43: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gw-laissus.laissus.fr (gw-laissus.laissus.fr [193.104.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D4737B4C5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:42:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from myriade.laissus.fr by gw-laissus.laissus.fr with ESMTP (8.9.3/fla-28.10.1999) id JAA02292; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:42:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by myriade.laissus.fr Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:42:55 +0100 From: Francois Laissus To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Addtron wireless awp-100 Message-ID: <20001106094255.A84880@myriade.laissus.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there any plan to support the AWP-100 IEEE 802.11 PCMCIA card ? Source for the Linux driver are on the cdrom shipped with. Thanks, Francois To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 3:38: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from oden.exmandato.se (oden.exmandato.se [192.71.33.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDB737B657 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 03:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from servicefactory.se (root@oden.exmandato.se [192.71.33.1]) by oden.exmandato.se (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17365 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:37:58 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A069815.7BC4FB90@servicefactory.se> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:37:57 +0100 From: Jonas Bulow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: KME PC Card SCSI adapter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I have a HP-m820e CD-writer. (see http://www.hp.com/cposupport/prodhome/hpcd-write11063.html). It's a SCSI drive and it the card I got with the drive is identified as: "KME" "SCSI-CARD-001" Does anybody know anything about this SCSI-card and if it's possible to get it work with FreeBSD? regards, Jonas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 11: 5:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from localhost.my.domain (xl-46.int.lackluster.net [64.121.138.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AEE37B479 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:05:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scott@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06554; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:49:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:49:05 -0700 From: Scott Smith To: Matt Bertrand Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with I7500 & GNOME Message-ID: <20001013154905.A6542@asdf.lackluster.net> Mail-Followup-To: Matt Bertrand , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.10i In-Reply-To: ; from jekyll@netfallout.com on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 06:31:39PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you tried truss or ktrace to see what's going on? Scott On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 06:31:39PM -0400, Matt Bertrand wrote: > I'm using XFree86 4.0.1, and I've installed the latest stable version of > Gnomecore from ports. I'm using Windowmaker as my WM, and everything with= WM > works, all filemanagers (that I've tried) work fine, and everything acts > normally except for Gnome. Everything in Gnome takes 2-4 minutes to launc= h. > Windowmaker and the file manager load right away, but it takes panel abou= t 3 > minutes to appear. Trying to go into Gnomecc takes another 3 minutes, and > selecting anything in Gnomecc takes another 3 minutes to appear on the > screen. I have the 1400x1050 screen, and the ATI Mobility-P. >=20 > I'm running 4.1.1-stable, and have reinstalled it about 5 times due to th= is > problem (reinstalled, tried different packages, etc) all with no luck. The > first time I installed XFree86, gnome, and sawfish it worked fine.. but w= hen > I switcehd to windowmaker it started acting up. I have since tried to use > sawfish after a fresh format, but still with no luck. >=20 > -Matt Bertrand >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message >=20 >=20 --=20 scott@lackluster.net --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE555FgKwQsrYYZe1URAjtwAJ9poJtS0bO1VUlZacaStDAeyoysAwCdG0av Rf7CwR5KvlCnE+m+t4J8zk0= =nbaG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 11:14:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.dante.org.uk (alpha.dante.org.uk [193.63.211.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E801B37B4CF for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=dante.org.uk) by alpha.dante.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #4) id 13sri6-0003K4-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 19:13:39 +0000 Message-ID: <3A0702EB.F5C0B8C7@dante.org.uk> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 19:13:47 +0000 From: Konstantin Chuguev Organization: Delivery of Advanced Network Technology to Europe Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Smith Cc: Matt Bertrand , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with I7500 & GNOME References: <20001013154905.A6542@asdf.lackluster.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scott Smith wrote: > Have you tried truss or ktrace to see what's going on? > > Scott > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 06:31:39PM -0400, Matt Bertrand wrote: > > I'm using XFree86 4.0.1, and I've installed the latest stable version of > > Gnomecore from ports. I'm using Windowmaker as my WM, and everything with WM > > works, all filemanagers (that I've tried) work fine, and everything acts > > normally except for Gnome. Everything in Gnome takes 2-4 minutes to launch. > > Windowmaker and the file manager load right away, but it takes panel about 3 > > minutes to appear. Trying to go into Gnomecc takes another 3 minutes, and > > selecting anything in Gnomecc takes another 3 minutes to appear on the > > screen. I have the 1400x1050 screen, and the ATI Mobility-P. > > I'd suggest you to rm -rf ~/.gnome and start again with GNOME default configuration. It helped me once. -- KC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 11:16: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCC337B479 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:15:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA6JFvg03114; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:15:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA11498; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:15:56 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011061915.MAA11498@harmony.village.org> To: Francois Laissus Subject: Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2000 09:42:55 +0100." <20001106094255.A84880@myriade.laissus.fr> References: <20001106094255.A84880@myriade.laissus.fr> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:15:56 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20001106094255.A84880@myriade.laissus.fr> Francois Laissus writes: : Is there any plan to support the AWP-100 IEEE 802.11 PCMCIA card ? : : Source for the Linux driver are on the cdrom shipped with. Which chipset is it based on? I don't think that we support it right now (based on a quick grep of pccard.conf). I'm not aware of any wireless drivers under development, except the ux driver port from NetBSD(?). I don't recall which devices this driver supports. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 11:17:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smipc.net (smipc.net [208.236.200.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419DE37B4D7 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from smipc.net (smipc.net [208.236.200.4]) by smipc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DDB64C02 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:26:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:26:49 -0500 (EST) From: Slade Edmonds To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Interface ep0 coming up too late for scripts to configure it. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a Toshiba Tecra 8100 with a supported 3com PCMCIA adapter. Brand new install of FreeBSD 4.1.1, which recognizes the ep0 interface, but only after its too late. Here is what happens: laptop boots. pccard starts. network scripts initialize and fail because pccard has not brought up interface yet. pccard brings up ep0 is there a way i can make the system stop for a minute or so after pccard starts? i am looking for any way to rig this. Many thanks -s To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 11:22:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3449B37B479 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 70C361360E; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:22:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:22:37 -0500 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Slade Edmonds Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interface ep0 coming up too late for scripts to configure it. Message-ID: <20001106142237.A43465@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Slade Edmonds , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from slade@smipc.net on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:26:49PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:26:49PM -0500, Slade Edmonds wrote: > I have a Toshiba Tecra 8100 with a supported 3com PCMCIA adapter. Brand > new install of FreeBSD 4.1.1, which recognizes the ep0 interface, but only > after its too late. Here is what happens: > > laptop boots. > pccard starts. > network scripts initialize and fail because pccard has not brought up > interface yet. > pccard brings up ep0 > > is there a way i can make the system stop for a minute or so after pccard > starts? i am looking for any way to rig this. > IIRC, you can add -z to pccardd_flags (in rc.conf). From pccardd(8): -z Delays running as a daemon until after the cards have been probed and attached. -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 11:50:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smipc.net (smipc.net [208.236.200.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B8837B4F9 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:50:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smipc.net (smipc.net [208.236.200.4]) by smipc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFD764C02 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:59:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:59:41 -0500 (EST) From: Slade Edmonds To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: ep0 has extreme delay when sending ping requests Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hope this will be the last of my issues. Thanks for the pointer to -z in pccardd_flags. now the interface is up, but pinging anywhere by host or ip hangs for a very long time before finally getting replies. once i do get replies, the latency is huge (80,000 ms on average). the only thing i see different between this laptop and a known freebsd box that works great is that the ifconfig on my laptop shows no media type. Thanks -s To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 12:45: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gw-laissus.laissus.fr (gw-laissus.laissus.fr [193.104.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBCA37B4F9 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from myriade.laissus.fr by gw-laissus.laissus.fr with ESMTP (8.9.3/fla-28.10.1999) id VAA02661; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:45:04 +0100 (CET) Received: by myriade.laissus.fr Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:45:03 +0100 From: Francois Laissus To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 Message-ID: <20001106214503.A92929@myriade.laissus.fr> References: <20001106094255.A84880@myriade.laissus.fr> <200011061915.MAA11498@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200011061915.MAA11498@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 12:15:56PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE #0 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 12:15:56PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20001106094255.A84880@myriade.laissus.fr> Francois Laissus writes: > : Is there any plan to support the AWP-100 IEEE 802.11 PCMCIA card ? > : > : Source for the Linux driver are on the cdrom shipped with. > > Which chipset is it based on? I don't think that we support it right > now (based on a quick grep of pccard.conf). I'm not aware of any > wireless drivers under development, except the ux driver port from > NetBSD(?). I don't recall which devices this driver supports. It's based on chipset PRISM from Intersil Corporation, not supported by 5.0-20001105-CURRENT ! Francois To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 13: 3:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-206-90-77.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.90.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25A837B4CF for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:03:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA6L7oF28144; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:07:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011062107.eA6L7oF28144@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Francois Laissus Cc: Warner Losh , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2000 21:45:03 +0100." <20001106214503.A92929@myriade.laissus.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 13:07:50 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 12:15:56PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <20001106094255.A84880@myriade.laissus.fr> Francois Laissus writes: > > : Is there any plan to support the AWP-100 IEEE 802.11 PCMCIA card ? > > : > > : Source for the Linux driver are on the cdrom shipped with. > > > > Which chipset is it based on? I don't think that we support it right > > now (based on a quick grep of pccard.conf). I'm not aware of any > > wireless drivers under development, except the ux driver port from > > NetBSD(?). I don't recall which devices this driver supports. > > It's based on chipset PRISM from Intersil Corporation, not supported > by 5.0-20001105-CURRENT ! Um. The PRISM is the Harris (ex-Intersil) chipset, which is supported by 'awi'. Which MAC does it use? I'd be guessing it's using the AMD PCNet/ Mobile as well, in which case 'awi' will support it. I get the distinct impression that Harris have a reference design for the PRISM which is just being copied by most vendors. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 13: 7:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE39937B4C5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from feta.isds.duke.edu (feta.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.76]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30678 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from sto@localhost) by feta.isds.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.3) id eA6L7S919657 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:07:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sto) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:07:28 -0500 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 Message-ID: <20001106160728.F372@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" Mail-Followup-To: Sean O'Connell , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001106214503.A92929@myriade.laissus.fr> <200011062107.eA6L7oF28144@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011062107.eA6L7oF28144@mass.osd.bsdi.com>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 01:07:50PM -0800 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith stated: : > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 12:15:56PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: : > > In message <20001106094255.A84880@myriade.laissus.fr> Francois Laissus writes: : > > : Is there any plan to support the AWP-100 IEEE 802.11 PCMCIA card ? : > > : : > > : Source for the Linux driver are on the cdrom shipped with. : > > : > > Which chipset is it based on? I don't think that we support it right : > > now (based on a quick grep of pccard.conf). I'm not aware of any : > > wireless drivers under development, except the ux driver port from : > > NetBSD(?). I don't recall which devices this driver supports. : > : > It's based on chipset PRISM from Intersil Corporation, not supported : > by 5.0-20001105-CURRENT ! : : Um. The PRISM is the Harris (ex-Intersil) chipset, which is supported by : 'awi'. Which MAC does it use? I'd be guessing it's using the AMD PCNet/ : Mobile as well, in which case 'awi' will support it. : : I get the distinct impression that Harris have a reference design for the : PRISM which is just being copied by most vendors. Hi- Allow me to hijack this thread ... :) Does anyone know what the story is on the 3Com AirConnect cards wrt to chipsets and possible FreeBSD support? Thanks, S ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 13:16:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2996837B4E5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA42188 for mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:16:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:16:06 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: laptop article out Message-ID: <20001106161606.A42173@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, My pccard article has been published at: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/11/02/Big_Scary_Daemons.html I want to thank everyone on -mobile who reviewed this for me. Regards, Michael -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 13:21:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interware.hu (mail.interware.hu [195.70.32.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7054737B4CF for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from portonovo-52.budapest.interware.hu ([195.70.60.116] helo=elischer.org) by mail.interware.hu with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 13sthN-00019L-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:21:01 +0100 Message-ID: <3A070E3B.4CAEFACD@elischer.org> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:02:03 -0800 From: Julian Elischer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 802.11b access in Singapore Changi airport (was: cool) References: <20000615084805.E809@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <20001106095852.A3648@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Thursday, 15 June 2000 at 8:48:05 -0700, Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Wednesday, 14 June 2000 at 1:00:27 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > >> > >> So, if you are in the Singapore Changi international airport, > >> the internet center in the transit area will loan you for FREE, > >> a wavelan PC-CARD. > >> > >> So here I am waiting for my next flight and I'm on the net! > >> (well they hold your passport in exchange but that's ok) > >> > >> I couldn;t get teh DHCP client to work, > >> It kept saying: > >> > >> > >> jules# /sbin/dhclient > >> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > >> Listening on BPF/wi0/00:60:1d:1e:42:6c > >> Sending on BPF/wi0/00:60:1d:1e:42:6c > >> Can't find free bpf: No such file or directory > >> exiting. > >> > >> And the log files showed.. > >> > >> Jun 14 00:54:37 jules /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xc0f85980) was (0xc0ee3000) > >> Jun 14 00:54:37 jules dhclient: Can't find free bpf: No such file or directory > >> Jun 14 00:54:37 jules dhclient: exiting. > >> > >> So I just did: > >> # wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1 > >> # tcpdump > >> eventually a packet showed up, from the router at 192.100.100.1 > >> so I just grabbed 192.100.100.2 (SHHHHHHHH!) > >> > >> now if I can get dhcp to work this would be great! > > > > Great stuff. Last but one time I was there (must have been a year > > ago) I tried one of their Internet Cafe things, but I couldn't find an > > active jack. > > > > So how do they expect people to get these things to work without DHCP? > > OK, I'm now in Changi myself, and I appear to be connected the way it > was intended. You need to set the SSID to "ANY", no encryption, > managed mode. The people I spoke to didn't know any of this, but we > barely got by. Once you have that, you get: > > === grog@sydney (/dev/ttyp6) ~ 1 -> wicontrol -i wi0 > NIC serial number: [ 00UT28336821 ] > Station name: [ FreeBSD WaveLAN/IEEE node ] > SSID for IBSS creation: [ ANY ] > Current netname (SSID): [ SIA Lounge Wireless ] > Desired netname (SSID): [ ] > Current BSSID: [ 00:60:1d:f2:2a:17 ] > Channel list: [ 2047 ] > IBSS channel: [ 3 ] > Current channel: [ 10 ] > Comms quality/signal/noise: [ 6 60 54 ] > Promiscuous mode: [ Off ] > Port type (1=BSS, 3=ad-hoc): [ 1 ] > MAC address: [ 00:02:2d:04:09:3a ] > TX rate (selection): [ 3 ] > TX rate (actual speed): [ 2 ] > RTS/CTS handshake threshold: [ 2347 ] > Create IBSS: [ Off ] > Access point density: [ 1 ] > Power Mgmt (1=on, 0=off): [ 0 ] > Max sleep time: [ 100 ] > WEP encryption: [ Off ] > TX encryption key: [ 1 ] > Encryption keys: [ ][ ][ ][ ] > === grog@sydney (/dev/ttyp6) ~ 2 -> ifconfig wi0 > wi0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet6 fe80::202:2dff:fe04:93a%wi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9 > inet 196.168.1.68 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255 > ether 00:02:2d:04:09:3a > > They appear to have blocked tracroute: > > === grog@sydney (/dev/ttyp6) ~ 3 -> traceroute freebie.lemis.com > traceroute to freebie.lemis.com (192.109.197.137), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets > 1 196.168.1.1 (196.168.1.1) 2.781 ms 6.651 ms 8.375 ms > 2 *^C > > but name services and ping work, and so does ssh. last time I was there (2 weeeks ago) terminal 2 internet center was moving so I had to use terminal 1.. But DHCP seemed to work for me this time, (but not the first time...)... the script I used was: #!/bin/sh kldload if_wi sleep 15 wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1 sleep 1 /sbin/dhclient # if dhcp fails, use the following by hand.... #ifconfig wi0 up 192.100.100.2 #sleep 1 #route add default 192.100.100.1 I'll play more with it on jan 27 when I go through in the other direction again.... :-) > > Check the headers on this message; I'd be interested to see what they > say. ------------ Status: U Return-Path: Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (ad202.166.98.224.magix.com.sg [202.166.98.224]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA12128 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eA61wwY03705; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:58:58 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from grog) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:58:52 +0800 From: Greg Lehey To: Julian Elischer Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: 802.11b access in Singapore Changi airport (was: cool) Message-ID: <20001106095852.A3648@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <20000615084805.E809@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000615084805.E809@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 08:48:05AM -0700 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 60250 ------------------ > > Greg > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ julian@elischer.org ( OZ ) World tour 2000 ---> X_.---._/ presently in: Budapest v To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 13:28:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-206-90-77.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.90.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C416337B479 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:28:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA6LXAF28244; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:33:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011062133.eA6LXAF28244@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3com AirConnect (was Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:07:28 EST." <20001106160728.F372@stat.Duke.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 13:33:10 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Allow me to hijack this thread ... :) > > Does anyone know what the story is on the 3Com AirConnect cards > wrt to chipsets and possible FreeBSD support? Bill Paul gutted one at the 'con. It contains a Harris chip, but there's no sign of the AMD part. I'm not sure whether that's because it's embedded in the Harris part, or whether there's something else funky going on. If there's Linux support for it, we might be able to learn something from that. At any rate, Warner has the card now. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 17:16:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D8437B4C5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA71GIg05048; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:16:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA15134; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:16:18 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011070116.SAA15134@harmony.village.org> To: Slade Edmonds Subject: Re: ep0 has extreme delay when sending ping requests Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:59:41 EST." References: Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:16:17 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Slade Edmonds writes: : Hope this will be the last of my issues. Thanks for the pointer to -z in : pccardd_flags. now the interface is up, but pinging anywhere by host or : ip hangs for a very long time before finally getting replies. once i do : get replies, the latency is huge (80,000 ms on average). the only thing i : see different between this laptop and a known freebsd box that works great : is that the ifconfig on my laptop shows no media type. This smells like the classic IRQ misconfigured problem. I usually see in the 1ms range for ping times. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 17:17: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E47837B4C5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:17:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA71Gxg05052; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:16:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA15147; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:16:59 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011070116.SAA15147@harmony.village.org> To: "Sean O'Connell" Subject: Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:07:28 EST." <20001106160728.F372@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <20001106160728.F372@stat.Duke.EDU> <20001106214503.A92929@myriade.laissus.fr> <200011062107.eA6L7oF28144@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:16:58 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20001106160728.F372@stat.Duke.EDU> "Sean O'Connell" writes: : Does anyone know what the story is on the 3Com AirConnect cards : wrt to chipsets and possible FreeBSD support? I've not had good luck getting the one that was given to me at BSDcon to work with any of the supported drivers in the tree. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 17:18:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3719E37B4C5; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:18:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA71Ifg05065; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:18:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA15174; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:18:40 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011070118.SAA15174@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: 3com AirConnect (was Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 ) Cc: "Sean O'Connell" , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2000 13:33:10 PST." <200011062133.eA6LXAF28244@mass.osd.bsdi.com> References: <200011062133.eA6LXAF28244@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:18:40 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200011062133.eA6LXAF28244@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mike Smith writes: : Bill Paul gutted one at the 'con. It contains a Harris chip, but there's : no sign of the AMD part. I'm not sure whether that's because it's : embedded in the Harris part, or whether there's something else funky : going on. If there's Linux support for it, we might be able to learn : something from that. At any rate, Warner has the card now. Yes. It fits well into an older laptop I have, but sticks on eject in my VAIO. It fits great in the desktop ISA cards. That might have something to do with the "butterfly"[*] condition it is in now. Warner [*] cf "butterfly cutlets of pork" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 17:34:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-206-90-77.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.90.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA74A37B4C5; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA71dXF29236; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:39:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011070139.eA71dXF29236@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Warner Losh Cc: Mike Smith , "Sean O'Connell" , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3com AirConnect (was Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:18:40 MST." <200011070118.SAA15174@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:39:33 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In message <200011062133.eA6LXAF28244@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mike Smith writes: > : Bill Paul gutted one at the 'con. It contains a Harris chip, but there's > : no sign of the AMD part. I'm not sure whether that's because it's > : embedded in the Harris part, or whether there's something else funky > : going on. If there's Linux support for it, we might be able to learn > : something from that. At any rate, Warner has the card now. > > Yes. It fits well into an older laptop I have, but sticks on eject in > my VAIO. It fits great in the desktop ISA cards. That might have > something to do with the "butterfly"[*] condition it is in now. Well. Looking at Intersil's site, the Prism I reference design uses the AMD PCNet/Mobile MAC. This is the 2Mbps design. The Prism II and 2.5 are the 11Mbps designs, and the schematics aren't available on the web (you have to buy a set). However, the Prism II and 2.5 stuff isn't so easy to get at. Having said that, the Linux-WLAN stuff supposedly suports them all. I think the 3com card is probably using the Prism 2.5; can you check the Harris/Intersil chip nearest the PCCARD connector? It will probably be an ISL3873. There's a datasheet with limited information at http://www.intersil.com/prism/wirelesssb.asp Hope this helps. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 17:46:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8909F37B4CF for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from list1.xs4all.nl (list1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.52]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA25401 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:46:36 +0100 (CET) Received: (from root@localhost) by list1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22956; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:46:36 +0100 (CET) From: Antoni Lapinski To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Via: imploder /usr/local/lib/mail/news2mail/news2mail at list1.xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 02:46:59 +0100 Organization: XS4ALL Internet BV Message-ID: <3A075F13.60CFFF0E@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <200011070116.SAA15147@harmony.village.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have it working with Linux and the latest pcmcia-3.1.22 from Dave Hinds. Socket 1: product info: "Addtron", "AWP-100 Wireless PCMCIA", "Version 01.02", "" manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 function: 6 (network) wvlan0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"WLAN" Nickname:"Prism I" Frequency:2.462GHz Sensitivity:3/3 Mode:Managed Access Point: 00:90:D1:00:B9:18 Bit Rate=11Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link quality:12/92 Signal level:-90 dBm Noise level:-102 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:63 wvlan_cs: WaveLAN/IEEE PCMCIA driver v1.0.5 wvlan_cs: (c) Andreas Neuhaus wvlan_cs: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 3, io 0x0100-0x013f wvlan_cs: Registered netdevice wvlan0 -Antoni To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 17:48:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D2537B4CF; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA71mRg05313; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:48:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA15384; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:48:27 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011070148.SAA15384@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: 3com AirConnect (was Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 ) Cc: "Sean O'Connell" , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:39:33 PST." <200011070139.eA71dXF29236@mass.osd.bsdi.com> References: <200011070139.eA71dXF29236@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:48:26 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200011070139.eA71dXF29236@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mike Smith writes: : Having said that, the Linux-WLAN stuff supposedly suports them all. I : think the 3com card is probably using the Prism 2.5; can you check the : Harris/Intersil chip nearest the PCCARD connector? It will probably be : an ISL3873. There's a datasheet with limited information at : http://www.intersil.com/prism/wirelesssb.asp Looks like it has the '3842 in it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 17:51: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-206-90-77.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.90.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E62737B4CF for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA71ttF29356; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:55:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011070155.eA71ttF29356@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Warner Losh Cc: "Sean O'Connell" , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3com AirConnect (was Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:48:26 MST." <200011070148.SAA15384@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:55:55 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In message <200011070139.eA71dXF29236@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mike Smith writes: > : Having said that, the Linux-WLAN stuff supposedly suports them all. I > : think the 3com card is probably using the Prism 2.5; can you check the > : Harris/Intersil chip nearest the PCCARD connector? It will probably be > : an ISL3873. There's a datasheet with limited information at > : http://www.intersil.com/prism/wirelesssb.asp > > Looks like it has the '3842 in it. Whee, crossed emails. That's a Prism II; there's a datasheet there as well. It's supported by the Linux-wlan stuff as well, so 'awi' should talk to it... -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 18:24:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E4737B4CF; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA72OJg05471; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:24:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA15882; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:24:18 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011070224.TAA15882@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: 3com AirConnect (was Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 ) Cc: "Sean O'Connell" , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:55:55 PST." <200011070155.eA71ttF29356@mass.osd.bsdi.com> References: <200011070155.eA71ttF29356@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 19:24:18 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200011070155.eA71ttF29356@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mike Smith writes: : Whee, crossed emails. That's a Prism II; there's a datasheet there as : well. It's supported by the Linux-wlan stuff as well, so 'awi' should : talk to it... Talk to it, yes. work, no, not really. I'll play with it when I get a chance. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 6 23: 5:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8887F37B4CF; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 23:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13754; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:05:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Sony SR-5K To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:05:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone cranked up FreeBSD on the Sony SR series mini-notebooks? My old laptop died, and I brought an SR-5K home from Fry's last night. I'll take a shot at an install, unless someone tells me there's no point. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 7:35:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from puck.firepipe.net (mcut-b-167.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.209.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B95137B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 07:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by puck.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3AA6C18C5; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:35:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:35:41 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Slade Edmonds Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ep0 has extreme delay when sending ping requests Message-ID: <20001107103541.G647@puck.firepipe.net> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from slade@smipc.net on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:59:41PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:59:41PM -0500, Slade Edmonds wrote: > Hope this will be the last of my issues. Thanks for the pointer to -z in > pccardd_flags. now the interface is up, but pinging anywhere by host or > ip hangs for a very long time before finally getting replies. once i do > get replies, the latency is huge (80,000 ms on average). the only thing i > see different between this laptop and a known freebsd box that works great > is that the ifconfig on my laptop shows no media type. Eww! I can smell a classical irq conflict a mile away. -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 10:58:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2046137B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA7Ivug09424; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:57:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA21637; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:57:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> To: chad@DCFinc.com Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Nov 2000 00:05:32 MST." <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:57:55 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> "Chad R. Larson" writes: : Has anyone cranked up FreeBSD on the Sony SR series mini-notebooks? : : My old laptop died, and I brought an SR-5K home from Fry's last : night. I'll take a shot at an install, unless someone tells me : there's no point. Tehre are several Japanese who are running on the SR-5K if I'm reading the nomads list correctly. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 10:59:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7EE37B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13tDxX-0001pR-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:59:03 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Warner Losh Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K References: <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:59:03 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Tehre are several Japanese who are running on the SR-5K if I'm reading > the nomads list correctly. modem? randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 11: 3:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8781237B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA7J3Sg09463; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:03:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA21730; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:03:27 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011071903.MAA21730@harmony.village.org> To: Randy Bush Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:59:03 PST." References: <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:03:27 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Randy Bush writes: : > There are several Japanese who are running on the SR-5K if I'm reading : > the nomads list correctly. : : modem? I don't know. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 11: 9:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37EF37B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13tE7R-0003nF-00 ; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 14:09:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:09:16 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Bcc:@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K Message-ID: <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Bcc: References: <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> <200011071903.MAA21730@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011071903.MAA21730@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 12:03:27PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warner Losh probably said: > In message Randy Bush writes: > : modem? > I don't know. To my knowledge the last laptop sony sold with a real modem was the 505TR. Every later one I've touched or heard about has had a losemodem. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 12:23:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF7D37B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mursu.pesa.fi (root@sirppi.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.27]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id eA7KNfG22046 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:23:41 +0200 (EET) Received: (from poku@localhost) by mursu.pesa.fi (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eA7KNX318295; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:23:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from poku@mursu.pesa.fi) To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: hangs with the APA-1460 From: Jussi Reissell Date: 07 Nov 2000 22:23:32 +0200 Message-ID: <8766lzh6pn.fsf@mursu.pesa.fi> Lines: 70 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After an upgrade from 3.4 to 4.1.1 I started to see hangs with my Adaptec SCSI pccard. So, I cvsup'ed to 4.2-BETA to see what would happen. So far, no luck. Here's what happens. I insert the card (with a Zip drive attached) and get the kernel messages: pccard: card inserted, slot 1 aic1: at port 0x340-0x35f irq 11 \ slot 1 on pccard1 aic1: aic6360, dma, disconnection, parity check At this point, nothing happens. The machine looks to be hung, but apparently it isn't quite yet since it comes to life when I pull the card out only to say: (probe6:-1065184176:-1010556672:6:0): ccb 0xc084ec00 - timed \ out, phase 0xff, state 4 and then it promptly drops into the debugger: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x62642e8a fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0125de1 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc02cfd88 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc02cfd88 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrrupt mask = cam kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 Stopped at xpt_freeze_simq+0x9: movl 0x24(%edx),%eax Trace shows: xpt_feeze_simq(0c81afc0,1,c084910c,c0134318,400000) at \ xpt_freeze_simq+0x9 aic_timeout(c084910c,400000,0,0,ffffffff) at aic_timeout+0xc1 softclock(0,10,10,10,ffffffff) at softclock+0xd1 doreti_swi() at doreti_swi+0xf The pccard relevant dmesg output is: pcic-pci0: port \ 0x3e0-0x3e3 at device 4.0 on pci0 ... pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 The kernel config is: ... device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # CAM options options SCSI_DELAY=8000 # Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device ... device aic0 at isa? ... device card device pcic0 at isa? port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 # polling The pccard.conf only contains an irq line, otherwise it's /etc/defaults all the way. jussi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 12:52:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DB937B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA7Kqfg09957; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:52:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA22794; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:52:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011072052.NAA22794@harmony.village.org> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Nov 2000 14:09:16 EST." <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> References: <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> <200011071903.MAA21730@harmony.village.org> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 13:52:41 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> Peter Radcliffe writes: : To my knowledge the last laptop sony sold with a real modem was the : 505TR. Every later one I've touched or heard about has had a losemodem. That's my knowledge as well. Except that the T series was the last one (the TS, TR and TX all have controller based modems on the ISA bus). I'm still not sure I understand the differences between the TR and the TX. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 13: 5:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7992737B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13tFvU-0004YH-00 ; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 16:05:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:05:04 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K Message-ID: <20001107160504.B17246@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> <200011071903.MAA21730@harmony.village.org> <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> <200011072052.NAA22794@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011072052.NAA22794@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 01:52:41PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warner Losh probably said: > That's my knowledge as well. Except that the T series was the last > one (the TS, TR and TX all have controller based modems on the ISA > bus). I'm still not sure I understand the differences between the TR > and the TX. The TX and the TR main units are identical. The TX was shipped with a single capacity battery, the TR was shipped with the double capacity battery. The TS was (as I remember) older than the TX/TR, so I believe the TR was the last model shipped with a real modem, since the TX stopped shipping before the TR stopped shipping. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 13:59:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533CA37B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA7Lx5g10204; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:59:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA23285; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:59:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011072159.OAA23285@harmony.village.org> To: Jussi Reissell Subject: Re: hangs with the APA-1460 Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "07 Nov 2000 22:23:32 +0200." <8766lzh6pn.fsf@mursu.pesa.fi> References: <8766lzh6pn.fsf@mursu.pesa.fi> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 14:59:04 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <8766lzh6pn.fsf@mursu.pesa.fi> Jussi Reissell writes: : (probe6:-1065184176:-1010556672:6:0): ccb 0xc084ec00 - timed \ : out, phase 0xff, state 4 This is the classic "bad irq" message for the aha and aic drivers :-(. This irq is in use by another piece of hardware, which is likely causing the problems. This hardware amy or may not have a FreeBSD driver associated with it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 14: 0:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1596537B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA7M0qg10223; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:00:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA23318; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:00:51 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011072200.PAA23318@harmony.village.org> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Nov 2000 16:05:04 EST." <20001107160504.B17246@pir.net> References: <20001107160504.B17246@pir.net> <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> <200011071903.MAA21730@harmony.village.org> <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> <200011072052.NAA22794@harmony.village.org> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 15:00:51 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20001107160504.B17246@pir.net> Peter Radcliffe writes: : The TX and the TR main units are identical. The TX was shipped with a : single capacity battery, the TR was shipped with the double capacity : battery. I think you have this reversed, because the TR and TS were released at the same time with a single life battery. : The TS was (as I remember) older than the TX/TR, so I believe the TR : was the last model shipped with a real modem, since the TX stopped : shipping before the TR stopped shipping. Ah, I went by release dates not last ship dates :-) Of course with Sony, these things change so quickly that it is hard to keep up. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 14:12:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD2637B4CF; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13tGyZ-0005tS-00 ; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 17:12:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:12:18 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K Message-ID: <20001107171218.B22580@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> <200011071903.MAA21730@harmony.village.org> <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> <200011072052.NAA22794@harmony.village.org> <20001107160504.B17246@pir.net> <200011072200.PAA23318@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011072200.PAA23318@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 03:00:51PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warner Losh probably said: > I think you have this reversed, because the TR and TS were released at > the same time with a single life battery. My TR shipped with a double life battery and I've been told by people with TXs that they shipped with a single. > Ah, I went by release dates not last ship dates :-) I bought my TR shortly before it stopped shipping and it was the only 505 left ... > Of course with Sony, these things change so quickly that it is hard to > keep up. but they seem to be using losemodems pretty consistantly :/ I sucked it up and bought a pcmcia modem for the occasional time I actually need it (when travelling, basicly). P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 16:12:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0935E37B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:12:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13tIqx-0000Bj-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 16:12:35 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K References: <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> <200011071903.MAA21730@harmony.village.org> <200011072052.NAA22794@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.80 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 16:12:35 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm still not sure I understand the differences between the TR > and the TX. double battery randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 16:21:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3984D37B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13tIzZ-0000Ep-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 16:21:29 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Peter Radcliffe Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K References: <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> <200011071903.MAA21730@harmony.village.org> <200011072052.NAA22794@harmony.village.org> <20001107160504.B17246@pir.net> <200011072200.PAA23318@harmony.village.org> <20001107171218.B22580@pir.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.80 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 16:21:29 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ stable removed from cc:s ] > but they seem to be using losemodems pretty consistantly :/ not exactly. within winmodems, there are differences. > I sucked it up and bought a pcmcia modem for the occasional time I > actually need it (when travelling, basicly). as the 505s only have one slot, this does not work for me. i often route 802.11 or ether out a ppp link at un-provisioned meetings. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 16:33: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264E237B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:33:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13tJAl-0006hb-00 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 19:33:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 19:33:02 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K Message-ID: <20001107193302.A25734@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001107140916.C14198@pir.net> <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> <200011071903.MAA21730@harmony.village.org> <200011072052.NAA22794@harmony.village.org> <20001107160504.B17246@pir.net> <200011072200.PAA23318@harmony.village.org> <20001107171218.B22580@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from randy@psg.com on Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 04:21:29PM -0800 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [please don't Cc: me on list mail - if I didn't read the list I wouldn't be responding] Randy Bush probably said: > not exactly. within winmodems, there are differences. They're still losemodems. > as the 505s only have one slot, this does not work for me. i often route > 802.11 or ether out a ppp link at un-provisioned meetings. Than with sony laptops, unless you get a Z505 and use the built in ether, you're screwed. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 16:34:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDD937B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13tJBp-0006hr-00 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 19:34:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 19:34:08 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K Message-ID: <20001107193408.B25734@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200011070705.AAA13754@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200011071857.LAA21637@harmony.village.org> <200011071903.MAA21730@harmony.village.org> <200011072052.NAA22794@harmony.village.org> <20001107160504.B17246@pir.net> <200011072200.PAA23318@harmony.village.org> <20001107171218.B22580@pir.net> <20001107193302.A25734@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001107193302.A25734@pir.net>; from pir@pir.net on Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 07:33:02PM -0500 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Radcliffe probably said: > Than with sony laptops, unless you get a Z505 and use the built in ether, > you're screwed. (I meant sony ultraslims, obviously) P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 19:54: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9FF37B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 19:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16416; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:53:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200011080353.UAA16416@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K In-Reply-To: from Randy Bush at "Nov 7, 0 10:59:03 am" To: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:53:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: imp@village.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As I recall, Randy Bush wrote: >> Tehre are several Japanese who are running on the SR-5K if I'm >> reading the nomads list correctly. > modem? There's a V.90/FAX modem built in. I don't know if it is "controllerless" or real. I guess I've gotta boot an install disk and look over the probe outputs. On the other hand, I didn't buy the CD-ROM drive. Do we know if the USB floppy can boot FreeBSD? The GENERIC kernel would need to support USB, I suspect. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 20:10: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6481737B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:09:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13tMYd-000041-00 ; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 23:09:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:09:55 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K Message-ID: <20001107230955.C25734@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200011080353.UAA16416@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011080353.UAA16416@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 08:53:47PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Chad R. Larson" probably said: > I guess I've gotta boot an install disk and look over the probe > outputs. On the other hand, I didn't buy the CD-ROM drive. Do we > know if the USB floppy can boot FreeBSD? The GENERIC kernel would > need to support USB, I suspect. The 4.* boot floppies work fine with the sony USB floppies, at least with my Z505. They're under bios control at that stage. The only thing I couldn't get working with it was the fixit floppy, since it didn't see da0 as a floppy drive. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 7 22:30:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEE537B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ragnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.46.40]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13tOkY-000OQr-0K; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 06:30:23 +0000 Received: from wanderer.my.domain ([192.168.247.66]) by ragnet.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13tHg8-000MBF-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 22:57:20 +0000 Content-Length: 1832 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200011062133.eA6LXAF28244@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 22:51:09 -0000 (GMT) From: Duncan Barclay To: Mike Smith Subject: RE: 3com AirConnect (was Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 ) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, "Sean O'Connell" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 06-Nov-00 Mike Smith wrote: >> >> Allow me to hijack this thread ... :) >> >> Does anyone know what the story is on the 3Com AirConnect cards >> wrt to chipsets and possible FreeBSD support? > > Bill Paul gutted one at the 'con. It contains a Harris chip, but there's > no sign of the AMD part. I'm not sure whether that's because it's > embedded in the Harris part, or whether there's something else funky > going on. If there's Linux support for it, we might be able to learn > something from that. At any rate, Warner has the card now. There are only a few people that make 802.11{fh|ds|a} chips: 802.11-Frequency Hopping 2Mb/s Raytheon, using their own MAC (chip is made by VLSI) and discrete RF Current(ish) cards from Webgear Oki, using the 7730 MAC and typically partnered with an old Hewlett Packard RF chipset Current(ish) cards from NDC Comms. InstantWave 802.11-Direct Sequence 2Mb/s Harris/Intersil, (Prism) using a variety of MACs e.g. AMD/Atmel Many vendors using the already mentioned reference designs Lucent using the WaveLan chips (Hermes) Many vendors using reference designs 802.11b-Direct Sequence 11Mb/s Harris/Intersil, (Prism II) ditto above Lucent/Orinoco. ditto above 802.11a-OFDM 54Mb/s Radidata and a couple of others have announced chipsets, but this stuff is not in products yet. Will be v. nice. Not many MACs announced yet. A few people have their own chipsets for their own products like Proxim. I can probably find out more from work - we've had a hand in some of the above. Duncan --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 8 4:24:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.wemm.org (mobile.wemm.org [202.12.86.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6C537B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 04:24:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mobile.wemm.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA8COgW09862; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:24:49 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <200011081224.eA8COgW09862@mobile.wemm.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Michael C . Wu" Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WARNING: later VAIOs (eg: PCG-F690) with ATI chipsets == trouble In-Reply-To: <20001105205148.A412@peorth.iteration.net> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 20:24:42 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Michael C . Wu" wrote: > Do you mean PCG-F590? F690 does not seem to exist on www.sony.com. > What exactly are the ATI chipsets? The newer VAIO laptops > all use Neomagic 256XL+ for their video chips. (unless I am wrong) Nope. It is a PCG-F690. Most stores dont even have it on display yet, and it doesn't seem to be on www.sony.com yet. But it is a F690, not a 590. The 690 has a 1400x1050 display and an ATI rage mobility graphics chipset, *not* a Neomagic. > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 09:29:26AM +0800, Peter Wemm scribbled: > | The problem comes from having an 80K video bios (0xc0000 -> 0xd3ffff). > | This breaks two things: > | > | 1: the default pccard (oldcard) address is 0xd0000 and overlaps with the > | rom, which causes pccardd to see garbage instead of the CIS> > > Ah, this explains why I cannot get oldcard to work. However, have > you gotten oldcard or newcard to work with another memory address? > If so, what iomem did you use? 0xd40000 is the first available space for me, so I used that. Just use hd /dev/mem | more and read it. :-) > | 2: XFree86 carefully calculates the size of the ROM, and then memcpy's > | all 80K of it onto a 64K stack buffer. Sigh. > > Does this patch just fix the video support? or does it also > resolve the pccard problem? I will test it tonight. In the Xserver, and only for the ATI chips. It makes no difference for the pccard code. > | After getting over the initial hurdles, I'm pretty happy with it. It isn't > | quite a Dell Inspiron 5000e, but it is close enough.. :-) > > Bah, Let JHB keep his 1600x1200 15in screen. :-) Mine isn't quite that high. 1400 isn't quite wide enough for three xterms across. And the max mem is 256k instead of 512k like the i5000e. Other than that it seems pretty similar. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 8 6: 7:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cisco.com (sword.cisco.com [161.44.208.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BA637B4C5 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 06:07:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sjt-u10.cisco.com (sjt-u10.cisco.com [161.44.214.97]) by cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11677; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:07:33 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Tremblett Received: (sjt@localhost) by sjt-u10.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/CISCO.WS.1.2) id JAA04301; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:07:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011081407.JAA04301@sjt-u10.cisco.com> Subject: Re: laptop article out To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org (Michael Lucas) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:07:37 -0500 (EST) Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001106161606.A42173@blackhelicopters.org> from "Michael Lucas" at Nov 06, 2000 04:16:06 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org +--- Michael Lucas wrote: | | Hello, | | My pccard article has been published at: | | http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/11/02/Big_Scary_Daemons.html | | I want to thank everyone on -mobile who reviewed this for me. | I'm a BSD rookie, I didn't feel experienced enough to review your article, but after reading it I have one minor point: laptop hardware isn't a constant - verify the hardware in the actual machine that you are going to carry out of the store. I worked support for a *NIX-like OS, and like FreeBSD, device support wasn't the greatest. A major problem was that 2 machines with the same make and model could have different components inside. Nowadays things are a little better with spec sheets that say "Neomagic model ABC-123" as opposed to "Video card", but you should still be wary. Good work Michael - your articles have been a big help to me. PS - Compaq laptops & PCs used to store BIOS info ON THE HARD DISK - if you repartition your drive for a new OS, goodbye! Avoid at all costs :) -- Steve Tremblett Cisco Systems To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 8 9:40:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E074C37B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:40:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AC7635730D; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:40:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:40:55 -0600 From: "Michael C . Wu" To: Duncan Barclay Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3com AirConnect (was Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 ) Message-ID: <20001108114055.C74554@peorth.iteration.net> Reply-To: "Michael C . Wu" Mail-Followup-To: "Michael C . Wu" , Duncan Barclay , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200011062133.eA6LXAF28244@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk on Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 10:51:09PM -0000 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5025 F691 F943 8128 48A8 5025 77CE 29C5 8FA1 2E20 X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x8FA12E20 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | > Bill Paul gutted one at the 'con. It contains a Harris chip, but there's | > no sign of the AMD part. I'm not sure whether that's because it's | > embedded in the Harris part, or whether there's something else funky | > going on. If there's Linux support for it, we might be able to learn | > something from that. At any rate, Warner has the card now. | There are only a few people that make 802.11{fh|ds|a} chips: | | 802.11-Frequency Hopping 2Mb/s | Raytheon, using their own MAC (chip is made by VLSI) and | discrete RF | Current(ish) cards from Webgear | | Oki, using the 7730 MAC and typically partnered with an old | Hewlett Packard RF chipset | Current(ish) cards from NDC Comms. InstantWave This seems like a very military-centric card. Do you know where one can get such cards? How far is the range and how well does it deal with, say, intentional EMF burns and 802.11 nodes moving at high speeds? If this is the case, I am pretty sure that I can get an "institution" to pay for the cost of developing a driver on FreeBSD. | 802.11-Direct Sequence 2Mb/s | Harris/Intersil, (Prism) using a variety of MACs e.g. AMD/Atmel | Many vendors using the already mentioned reference designs | | Lucent using the WaveLan chips (Hermes) | Many vendors using reference designs | | 802.11b-Direct Sequence 11Mb/s | Harris/Intersil, (Prism II) ditto above | | Lucent/Orinoco. ditto above | | 802.11a-OFDM 54Mb/s | Radidata and a couple of others have announced chipsets, but | this stuff is not in products yet. Will be v. nice. | Not many MACs announced yet. In other words, people who use these on their LAPtops may be sterile? | A few people have their own chipsets for their own products like Proxim. | | I can probably find out more from work - we've had a hand in some of the above. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 8 10:53:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35F837B4CF for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 10:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ragnet.demon.co.uk ([158.152.46.40]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13taLi-000FrA-0X; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:53:34 +0000 Received: from wanderer.my.domain ([192.168.247.66]) by ragnet.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13taDT-00059G-00; Wed, 08 Nov 2000 18:44:59 +0000 Content-Length: 2666 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001108114055.C74554@peorth.iteration.net> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 18:38:48 -0000 (GMT) From: Duncan Barclay To: "Michael C . Wu" Subject: Re: 3com AirConnect (was Re: Addtron wireless awp-100 ) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 08-Nov-00 Michael C . Wu wrote: >| > Bill Paul gutted one at the 'con. It contains a Harris chip, but there's >| > no sign of the AMD part. I'm not sure whether that's because it's >| > embedded in the Harris part, or whether there's something else funky >| > going on. If there's Linux support for it, we might be able to learn >| > something from that. At any rate, Warner has the card now. > >| There are only a few people that make 802.11{fh|ds|a} chips: >| >| 802.11-Frequency Hopping 2Mb/s >| Raytheon, using their own MAC (chip is made by VLSI) and >| discrete RF >| Current(ish) cards from Webgear >| >| Oki, using the 7730 MAC and typically partnered with an old >| Hewlett Packard RF chipset >| Current(ish) cards from NDC Comms. InstantWave > > This seems like a very military-centric card. Do you know where > one can get such cards? How far is the range and how well > does it deal with, say, intentional EMF burns and 802.11 nodes moving at > high speeds? If this is the case, I am pretty sure that I can get > an "institution" to pay for the cost of developing a driver on FreeBSD. To my knowledge these arent mil spec/hardened. Might be worth checking with NDC. >| 802.11-Direct Sequence 2Mb/s >| Harris/Intersil, (Prism) using a variety of MACs e.g. >| AMD/Atmel >| Many vendors using the already mentioned reference designs >| >| Lucent using the WaveLan chips (Hermes) >| Many vendors using reference designs >| >| 802.11b-Direct Sequence 11Mb/s >| Harris/Intersil, (Prism II) ditto above >| >| Lucent/Orinoco. ditto above >| >| 802.11a-OFDM 54Mb/s >| Radidata and a couple of others have announced chipsets, but >| this stuff is not in products yet. Will be v. nice. >| Not many MACs announced yet. > > In other words, people who use these on their LAPtops may be sterile? Well, I dont think you can buy any products yet, so it's not a problem yet! > >| A few people have their own chipsets for their own products like >| Proxim. >| >| I can probably find out more from work - we've had a hand in some of the >| above. > > > -- > +------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| keichii@peorth.iteration.net | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net | >| http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | > +------------------------------------------------------------------+ > --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 8 12: 9:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3FA37B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 12:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp241.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA8K8aH98993; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 12:08:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200011080353.UAA16416@freeway.dcfinc.com> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 12:09:03 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: "Chad R. Larson" Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org, imp@village.org, (Randy Bush) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 08-Nov-00 Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Randy Bush wrote: >>> Tehre are several Japanese who are running on the SR-5K if I'm >>> reading the nomads list correctly. >> modem? > > There's a V.90/FAX modem built in. I don't know if it is > "controllerless" or real. > > I guess I've gotta boot an install disk and look over the probe > outputs. On the other hand, I didn't buy the CD-ROM drive. Do we > know if the USB floppy can boot FreeBSD? The GENERIC kernel would > need to support USB, I suspect. GENERIC supports USB in 4.1 and later. I think Jim Mock has installed over his USB floppy drive w/o problems. > -crl -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 8 12: 9:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A90C37B4C5 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 12:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp241.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA8K8fH99001; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 12:08:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200011081224.eA8COgW09862@mobile.wemm.org> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 12:09:08 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Peter Wemm Subject: Re: WARNING: later VAIOs (eg: PCG-F690) with ATI chipsets == tro Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.org, "Michael C . Wu" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 08-Nov-00 Peter Wemm wrote: >> Does this patch just fix the video support? or does it also >> resolve the pccard problem? I will test it tonight. > > In the Xserver, and only for the ATI chips. It makes no difference for the > pccard code. Hmm, what ATI card do you have? I haven't had the problem you mentioned: VESA: v2.0, 16384k memory, flags:0x1, mode table:0xc03a02c2 (1000022) VESA: ATI MOBILE M3 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 >> | After getting over the initial hurdles, I'm pretty happy with it. It >> | isn't >> | quite a Dell Inspiron 5000e, but it is close enough.. :-) >> >> Bah, Let JHB keep his 1600x1200 15in screen. :-) > > Mine isn't quite that high. 1400 isn't quite wide enough for three > xterms across. And the max mem is 256k instead of 512k like the i5000e. > Other than that it seems pretty similar. Mike's Dell has a 1440x1050 screen, so you've caught up to him at least. :) > Cheers, > -Peter -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 8 12:16:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9515E37B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 12:16:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19188; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:16:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200011082016.NAA19188@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Sony SR-5K In-Reply-To: from John Baldwin at "Nov 8, 0 12:09:03 pm" To: jhb@FreeBSD.org (John Baldwin) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:16:11 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org, imp@village.org, randy@psg.com Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As I recall, John Baldwin wrote: >> There's a V.90/FAX modem built in. I don't know if it is >> "controllerless" or real. >> >> I guess I've gotta boot an install disk and look over the probe >> outputs. On the other hand, I didn't buy the CD-ROM drive. Do we >> know if the USB floppy can boot FreeBSD? The GENERIC kernel would >> need to support USB, I suspect. > > GENERIC supports USB in 4.1 and later. I think Jim Mock has installed > over his USB floppy drive w/o problems. Cool. I'll try to boot a floppy tonight. And see if I can get my PCMCIA Ethernet card from the old notebook to work. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 9 2:46:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hibou.obs-besancon.fr (hibou.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8203A37B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 02:46:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from shama.obs-besancon.fr (shama.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.46]) by hibou.obs-besancon.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id LAA16468 ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:46:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost by shama.obs-besancon.fr (8.8.8/1.1.22.3/02Jun00-1025AM) id LAA0000008276; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:46:26 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: shama.obs-besancon.fr: annie owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:46:24 +0100 (MET) From: Annie Robin To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Cc: Annie Robin Subject: Upgrade to 4.1.1 with 3C589 woes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have got problems in trying to upgrade my mobile from FreeBSD 3.2 to 4.1.1. The problem comes from getting my ethernet card work when booting on the floppies (kern.flp and msfroot.flp). My ethernet card is : 3com etherlink III pcmcia 3C589B adapter My mobile is a Twinhead Slimnote VXe. It has 2 pcmcia slots. Under FreeBSD 3.2 it works well. The boot messages are: Oct 30 17:35:43 annie /kernel.prev: chip4: rev 0x01 int a irq 255 on pci0.10.0 Oct 30 17:35:43 annie /kernel.prev: chip5: rev 0x01 int a irq 255 on pci0.10.1 Oct 30 17:35:43 annie /kernel.prev: ze: pcmcia slot 0: 3Com Corporation~3C589~TP/BNC LAN Card Ver. 2a~000002~ Oct 30 17:35:43 annie /kernel.prev: ze: slot 1: no card in slot Oct 30 17:35:43 annie /kernel.prev: zp: found card in slot 0 Oct 30 17:35:43 annie /kernel.prev: zp0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 maddr 0xd8000 on isa Oct 30 17:35:43 annie /kernel.prev: zp0: aui/bnc/utp address 00:20:af:c7:09:11 When I boot on the floppies of the 4.1.1 release, I got the following messages: pcic-pci0: at device 10.0 pn pci0 pcic-pci0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] pcic-pci1: at device 10.1 pn pci0 pcic-pci1: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] When I try to install with the installation menu, my card is detected but I rapidly get a wrong beep saying that the card does not work correctly. The message given on the crtl-f2 screen is : pccard: card inserted slot0 DEBUG: Warning: Zero length name or value passed to variable_set2(pccardd_flags)= ep0: No irq?! I have tried to look at the BIOS but it seems that I have no possibility to change the irq at the BIOS unless for COM1, COM2 and lpt ports. Does anybody have this kind of hardware, this kind of troubles ? Help is needed. Thanks. ........................................................................ Annie Robin Tel: (33)(0)381666941 Observatoire de Besancon Fax: (33)(0)381666944 BP 1615 e-mail : robin@obs-besancon.fr F-25010 Besancon cedex France ........................................................................ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 9 12:18:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from wilson.acpub.duke.edu (wilson.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD38A37B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu [152.16.67.15]) by wilson.acpub.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Duke-5.0.0) with ESMTP id PAA06515; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from sto@localhost) by bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eA9KIW748955; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:18:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sto) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:18:32 -0500 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: Qing Cc: FreeBSD mobile Subject: Re: pcmcia nic problem Message-ID: <20001109151832.M48288@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" Mail-Followup-To: Sean O'Connell , Qing , FreeBSD mobile References: <200011092003.MAA07046@webmail.speakeasy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011092003.MAA07046@webmail.speakeasy.net>; from qingli@speakeasy.net on Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 12:03:00PM -0800 X-Organization: House of Schmutzli X-Kitties: Bitty Maya CJ Keisha Jacob Hopey X-Hound: Bob X-OS-of-Choice: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Qing stated: : : Please help .... : : I have a 3COM 3c589 pcmcia network adapter. : The adapter is operational. : : On both 4.1.1-STABLE and 4.2-BETA the : adapter is initialized and output from both : "ifconfig" and "netstat" appears okay. : : But I cannot ping any host on my network. : The error message I get on 4.2-BETA is: : ===>> ping: sendto: host is down : On 4.1.1-STABLE "ping" will not return for : a long time. The host MAC address appears in : the route table though. The time is huge when : "ping" returns finally after 3-5 mins. : : Any ideas on what might be the cause?? : ep0: flags=a843 mtu 1500 : inet 192.103.54.235 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.103.54.255 : inet6 fe80::260:97ff:fe48:e9b5%ep0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb : ether 00:60:97:48:e9:b5 : media: 10baseT/UTP : supported media: 10base2/BNC 10baseT/UTP 10base5/AUI : pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 10 on isa0 : pcic0: management irq 10 : pccard0: on pcic0 : pccard1: on pcic0 : ep0: <3Com Etherlink III 3C589> at port 0x240-0x24f irq 3 slot 0 on pccard0 : ep0: Ethernet address 00:60:97:48:e9:b5 Qing- This sounds like a classic irq conflict problem. There is probably a device using irq 3 on the laptop that freebsd is unaware of. Based on your dmesg output, I would suspect that you have a winmodem pci0: (vendor=0x123f, dev=0x8888) at 13.0 irq 11 eisa0: on motherboard eisa0: unknown card @@@0000 (0x00000000) at slot 1 that is using irq 3. The way to fix this is to either: 1) put the pcic in polling mode and use irq 10 for 3Com Nic - change pcic entry in your kernel to just device pcic0 at isa? - add an /etc/pccard.conf with one line to force using irq 10 for your pccard irq 10 OR 2) try using irq 9 for the 3Com nic - add an /etc/pccard.conf with one line to force using irq 9 for your pccard irq 9 OR 3) disable the onboard serial card in the bios and use irq 4 for the 3com card - add an /etc/pccard.conf with one line to force using irq 4 for your pccard irq 4 Actually I would recommend using a combination or 1 and 2 such that you put the pcic in polling mode and use both 9 and 10 for your pccards ... this would be useful if you ever want to have more than one pccard in at a time (say an adaptec scsi card or a modem, etc). HTH, S -- 1--------01---------01--------01--------01--------01--------01--------0 Sean O'Connell sean@stat.Duke.EDU To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 9 12:19: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5495E37B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:18:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA9KIog21729; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:18:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA43528; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:18:50 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011092018.NAA43528@harmony.village.org> To: Annie Robin Subject: Re: Upgrade to 4.1.1 with 3C589 woes Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Nov 2000 11:46:24 +0100." References: Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 13:18:50 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You are using an IRQ that is used by something else. Pick another one. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 9 13:15:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smipc.net (smipc.net [208.236.200.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5822437B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smipc.net (smipc.net [208.236.200.4]) by smipc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E6F64C09 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 17:25:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 17:25:02 -0500 (EST) From: Slade Edmonds To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Toshiba Tecra 8100 with S3 Savage/MX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is it possible to get the S3 Savage/MX working with X? According to docs, the 3.3.6 server claims to support it, but actually does not. So, I tried the 4.0.1 server included in the ports section in hopes that I would see an s3_savage entry, but I have had no luck. Any help is appreciated. -s To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 9 13:27: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA4837B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbox.telia.net (mailbox.telia.net [194.237.170.234]) by mailb.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02602 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:27:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from JORGEN-CQ94AXL0.telia.net (t1o311p34.teliauk.com [195.12.226.34]) by mailbox.telia.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05469 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:27:03 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001109212420.02a7ee18@mailbox.telia.net> X-Sender: jorgen@mailbox.telia.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 21:25:17 +0000 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rgen?= I Larsson Subject: Re: Toshiba Tecra 8100 with S3 Savage/MX In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:25 PM 11/9/2000, Slade Edmonds wrote: >Is it possible to get the S3 Savage/MX working with X? According to docs, >the 3.3.6 server claims to support it, but actually does not. So, I tried >the 4.0.1 server included in the ports section in hopes that I would see >an s3_savage entry, but I have had no luck. Any help is appreciated. I haven't had the time to try this but it looks good. http://www.probo.com/timr/savagemx.html /jorgen >-s > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 9 14:29: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from denverx1.firstworld.com (unknown [216.7.160.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A5B37B4D7 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:28:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by denverx1.firstworld.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <40QX7Z7T>; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:27:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1BB5F59166EBD211B1860008C7E947D301929F0A@denverx2.dnvr.firstworld.com> From: "Cropper, Jason" To: "'freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: Toshiba Tecra 8100 with S3 Savage/MX Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:27:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C04A9C.41253F0C" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C04A9C.41253F0C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out = ftp://ftp.s3.com/pub/s3/mobile/270_290/270-290_xf86_1011.tar.gz This is an SVGA X11R6 server that works great for me. -j -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of J=F6rgen I = Larsson Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 15:25 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Toshiba Tecra 8100 with S3 Savage/MX At 10:25 PM 11/9/2000, Slade Edmonds wrote: >Is it possible to get the S3 Savage/MX working with X? According to = docs, >the 3.3.6 server claims to support it, but actually does not. So, I = tried >the 4.0.1 server included in the ports section in hopes that I would = see >an s3_savage entry, but I have had no luck. Any help is appreciated. I haven't had the time to try this but it looks good. http://www.probo.com/timr/savagemx.html /jorgen >-s > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message ------_=_NextPart_001_01C04A9C.41253F0C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Toshiba Tecra 8100 with S3 Savage/MX

Check out ftp://ftp.s3.com/pub/s3/mobile/270_290/270-290_xf86_10= 11.tar.gz

This is an SVGA X11R6 server that works great for = me.

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At 10:25 PM 11/9/2000, Slade Edmonds wrote:
>Is it possible to get the S3 Savage/MX working = with X?  According to docs,
>the 3.3.6 server claims to support it, but = actually does not.  So, I tried
>the 4.0.1 server included in the ports section = in hopes that I would see
>an s3_savage entry, but I have had no = luck.  Any help is appreciated.

I haven't had the time to try this but it looks = good.
http://www.probo.com/timr/savagemx.html

/jorgen



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------_=_NextPart_001_01C04A9C.41253F0C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 9 17:36:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337AD37B4C5 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 17:36:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([24.12.186.185]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001110013630.NCTD2160.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 17:36:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3A0B515E.6525ADBB@home.com> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 17:37:34 -0800 From: Rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Synaptics touch pad port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I actually got the Synaptics touch pad utility to compile, linked against libgnugetopt. However, it does nothing, just times out. I disabled moused before running it. I changed /dev/psaux to /dev/psm0 in the source. I am wondering if this configuration has to be done via ioctl instead of via a /dev? Rob. ps. if anyone is interested I can tar up the source. I am just a porting beginner, so I have yet to figure out how to generate patches, etc :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 9 18: 6: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (earth.elinux.com.sg [203.120.99.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589C137B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eA76vhF05294; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:57:43 +0800 (MYT) (envelope-from grog) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:51:28 +0800 From: Greg Lehey To: Julian Elischer Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 802.11b access in Singapore Changi airport (was: cool) Message-ID: <20001107145128.D5188@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <20000615084805.E809@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <20001106095852.A3648@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <3A070E3B.4CAEFACD@elischer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3A070E3B.4CAEFACD@elischer.org>; from julian@elischer.org on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 12:02:03PM -0800 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 6 November 2000 at 12:02:03 -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> On Thursday, 15 June 2000 at 8:48:05 -0700, Greg Lehey wrote: >>> On Wednesday, 14 June 2000 at 1:00:27 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: >>>> >>>> So, if you are in the Singapore Changi international airport, >>>> the internet center in the transit area will loan you for FREE, >>>> a wavelan PC-CARD. >> >> OK, I'm now in Changi myself, and I appear to be connected the way it >> was intended. You need to set the SSID to "ANY", no encryption, >> managed mode. The people I spoke to didn't know any of this, but we >> barely got by. Once you have that, you get: >> >> [snip] >> >> They appear to have blocked tracroute: ... but name services and >> ping work, and so does ssh. > > last time I was there (2 weeeks ago) terminal 2 internet center was > moving so I had to use terminal 1.. They didn't moved, they closed down. But that didn't affect the coverage in Terminal 2. > But DHCP seemed to work for me this time, (but not the first time...)... > > the script I used was: > #!/bin/sh > kldload if_wi > sleep 15 > wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1 > sleep 1 > /sbin/dhclient > # if dhcp fails, use the following by hand.... > #ifconfig wi0 up 192.100.100.2 > #sleep 1 > #route add default 192.100.100.1 > > I'll play more with it on jan 27 when I go through in the other > direction again.... :-) OK, that's what I suspected, that this "ANY" keyword was some kind of kludge necessary for Microsoft systems. The first time round, I had encryption set (don't ask), and it worked as soon as I turned encryption off (by which time I had set the SSID to ANY). I'll try again on Saturday when I go through in the other direction again :-) Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 9 23:20:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (jason.argos.org [216.233.245.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230A937B4C5 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 23:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAA7GWj01648; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:16:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:16:32 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Nowlin To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rgen?= I Larsson Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Toshiba Tecra 8100 with S3 Savage/MX In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001109212420.02a7ee18@mailbox.telia.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At 10:25 PM 11/9/2000, Slade Edmonds wrote: > >Is it possible to get the S3 Savage/MX working with X? According to docs, > >the 3.3.6 server claims to support it, but actually does not. So, I tried > >the 4.0.1 server included in the ports section in hopes that I would see > >an s3_savage entry, but I have had no luck. Any help is appreciated. > > I haven't had the time to try this but it looks good. > http://www.probo.com/timr/savagemx.html If memory serves, there was some patch I used from that site to get my Satellite Pro 4360 working (Savage/IX chipset) - there are some "issues", but it works for me. It's been 6-7 weeks since I looked at it - maybe some of those issues are fixed now... (From what I hear, the IX & MX chipsets are pretty similar...) mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 1:46:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mercure.accelance.net (mercure.accelance.net [212.155.217.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9150337B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 01:46:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from accelance.fr (guardian.accelance.net [212.155.217.253]) by mercure.accelance.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30434 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:46:45 +0100 Message-ID: <3A0BC403.D443694F@accelance.fr> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:46:43 +0100 From: Matthias Saou X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-marmotte i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Xircom 10/100 ethernet problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I'm new to this list... and I'm also quite new to FreeBSD, which explains the few problems I have that I can't solve yet. My pcmcia Xircom 10/100 ethernet + 56k modem card seems to have problems with ressource allocation, here is the error message I get either at boot time or when I remove/reinsert the card : pccardd[50]: Config id 35 not present in this card pccardd[50]:Resource allocation failure for Xircom pccardd[50]:pccardd started I've searched for people having the same problem, and all I've found is three web pages in japanese and an unreacheable mail in the FreeBSD mail archive... does anyone know how to solve this? What should I put in my /etc/pccard.conf? The only thing I've tried so far is removing IRQ5 from the /etc/defaults/pccard.conf because it's used by my OPL-3 sound card (I had that IRQ 5 conflict with Linux also). I'm running 4.1.1-RELEASE, the X-Developer base system with only WindowMaker and bash2 (I'm not used to tcsh yet ;o) on an Asus L7300 laptop which dual-boots FreeBSD with a RedHat Linux 6.2 system (on which ethernet, modem, sound, irda, usb all work fine)... I've rebuilt my world and a custom kernel so far without any problems, that's about it. Any help would be very much appreciated :) Matthias -- Matthias Saou matthias@accelance.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 10:17:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E27237B4C5 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA62759 for mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:17:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:17:53 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: laptop recommendations Message-ID: <20001110131753.A62744@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm shocked. My new boss has approved about $3k for a UNIX laptop for me. I've never spent that much money on a personal PC in my life. So, any recommendations? I need the ability to use 256meg of RAM and X-windows. Thanks, Michael -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 10:38: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from wilson.acpub.duke.edu (wilson.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AEF37B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu [152.16.67.15]) by wilson.acpub.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Duke-5.0.0) with ESMTP id NAA28079; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from sto@localhost) by bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eAAIbtn25701; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:37:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sto) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:37:55 -0500 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: Michael Lucas Cc: FreeBSD mobile Subject: Re: laptop recommendations Message-ID: <20001110133755.D25444@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" Mail-Followup-To: Sean O'Connell , Michael Lucas , FreeBSD mobile References: <20001110131753.A62744@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001110131753.A62744@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 01:17:53PM -0500 X-Organization: House of Schmutzli X-Kitties: Bitty Maya CJ Keisha Jacob Hopey X-Hound: Bob X-OS-of-Choice: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas stated: : I'm shocked. My new boss has approved about $3k for a UNIX laptop for : me. I've never spent that much money on a personal PC in my life. : : So, any recommendations? I need the ability to use 256meg of RAM and : X-windows. : : Thanks, Michael- There are a lot of machines that fall into this category and are 3000 or less :) Are there any other concerns: big, monster, movie theater size screen?, built-in ethernet?, small and light? small and light yet with built-in enet and cdrom? etc. My tastes lean toward the ultralights (I have a Sony 505-TR). I have been impressed with IBM's latest offerings T-20/21 are very nice, but you do need to build XFree86-4 from cvs (not sure our ports version supports the S3 Savage/MX or whatever), also, newpcm craps and dies with a timeout anytime you try and use pcm (waveplay or realaudio); however, the mixer works for cd audio (note: this is on an A-20M -- larger and slightly different notebooks -- would love to hear that this has been fixed ). The X-20 and A-20/21 series are nice too. X20 is an ultralight and uses Rage Mobility (supported by XFree86-4 out of ports) as does the A20 is the all-in-one offering. The Acer 600 series offer a nifty compromise with a built-in cdrom burner and 13.3" XGA screen ... uses Rage Mobility (ports XFree86-4). Audio is the ESS solo chip and works fine for realaudio and cd audio. The synaptics touchpad is only detected as a two button mouse ... even though it has a middle rocker switch :( The Sony Z505 series are quite nice (external cdrom only). The SR series are even smaller, but no built-in enet :( Gateway has a new ultralight, but it uses the Maestro-3 audio chip, which is not supported other than that it looks pretty good (forgot what the video card is). Toshiba's 3840 uses the S3 chipset, but looks pretty nice. Hmmm... then there are the whole line of luggables by Dell and others. Good luck and happy hunting. S -- 1--------01---------01--------01--------01--------01--------01--------0 Sean O'Connell sean@stat.Duke.EDU To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 10:40:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from herbelot.dyndns.org (s014.dhcp212-24.cybercable.fr [212.198.24.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2560F37B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from cybercable.fr (multi.herbelot.nom [192.168.1.2]) by herbelot.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA42956; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:39:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from herbelot@cybercable.fr) Message-ID: <3A0C40F1.F3C3ED91@cybercable.fr> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:39:45 +0100 From: Thierry Herbelot X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: laptop recommendations References: <20001110131753.A62744@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas wrote: > > I'm shocked. My new boss has approved about $3k for a UNIX laptop for > me. I've never spent that much money on a personal PC in my life. > > So, any recommendations? I need the ability to use 256meg of RAM and > X-windows. I've just got a Vaio PCG-F707 which is just fine : Pentium-3 600MHz 192 MB of RAM 10G of disk a not-accelerated, but supported Neomagic chipset this baby runs 4.2 Beta with XF-4.01 (the sound seems broken, but I don't care ...) TfH > > Thanks, > Michael > > -- > Michael Lucas > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ nice column ! -- Thierry Herbelot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 11:52:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F8437B4C5 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp241.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAAJq8H78706; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:52:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001110131753.A62744@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:52:45 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Michael Lucas Subject: RE: laptop recommendations Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10-Nov-00 Michael Lucas wrote: > I'm shocked. My new boss has approved about $3k for a UNIX laptop for > me. I've never spent that much money on a personal PC in my life. > > So, any recommendations? I need the ability to use 256meg of RAM and > X-windows. Depends on what you want. If you want something real light and portable, the various VAIO's I have seen are nice. If you want a big honkin' screen like I do, then I recommend the Dell Inspiron 5000e with the 1600x1200 screen. If you don't get the DVD ROM drive and you get the 5 gig hard drive with 128 MB of ram I believe it is about ~$2800 US. That gives you some room to play with to get 256 MB of ram at least, and if you can put in a little of your own you can get a nicer-sized hard drive, etc. The sound works fine in both -stable and -current. X works, but you can't use 4.0.1 on it, you have to cvsup the X sources and use an X-current server. :-P I haven't tried X 3.3.6, though it seems to have a ATI rage 128 driver, so it might work as well. One known problem is that apm support won't work under FreeBSD because of a bug in the BIOS. :-( pccard and USB work fine though. The real win is the screen though. :) > Thanks, > Michael -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 12: 8:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586F837B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (jrs@shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA82121; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:08:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:08:37 -0600 (CST) From: John Sconiers To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: Michael Lucas , FreeBSD mobile Subject: Re: laptop recommendations In-Reply-To: <20001110133755.D25444@stat.Duke.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Get more bang for your buck @ www.discountpcsales.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 12:12:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76F037B479; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (jrs@shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA84230; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:12:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:12:12 -0600 (CST) From: John Sconiers To: John Baldwin Cc: Michael Lucas , mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: laptop recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org M-tech sales an Dell Inspiron-like (An Inspiron has a dell badge this one doesn't) laptop with more options and even the choice of adding an OS for less. www.discountpcsales.com On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > > On 10-Nov-00 Michael Lucas wrote: > > I'm shocked. My new boss has approved about $3k for a UNIX laptop for > > me. I've never spent that much money on a personal PC in my life. > > > > So, any recommendations? I need the ability to use 256meg of RAM and > > X-windows. > > Depends on what you want. If you want something real light and portable, the > various VAIO's I have seen are nice. If you want a big honkin' screen like I > do, then I recommend the Dell Inspiron 5000e with the 1600x1200 screen. If you > don't get the DVD ROM drive and you get the 5 gig hard drive with 128 MB of ram > I believe it is about ~$2800 US. That gives you some room to play with to get > 256 MB of ram at least, and if you can put in a little of your own you can get > a nicer-sized hard drive, etc. The sound works fine in both -stable and > -current. X works, but you can't use 4.0.1 on it, you have to cvsup the X > sources and use an X-current server. :-P I haven't tried X 3.3.6, though it > seems to have a ATI rage 128 driver, so it might work as well. One known > problem is that apm support won't work under FreeBSD because of a bug in the > BIOS. :-( pccard and USB work fine though. The real win is the screen though. > :) > > > Thanks, > > Michael > > -- > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 12:29:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8E637B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:29:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp241.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAAKSWH80210; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:28:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:29:10 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: John Sconiers Subject: RE: laptop recommendations Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.org, Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10-Nov-00 John Sconiers wrote: > M-tech sales an Dell Inspiron-like (An Inspiron has a dell badge this > one doesn't) laptop with more options and even the choice of adding an OS > for less. If you throw in the extra battery, Windows (everyone plays games, right :-P), and Office then you end up with a machine that is $100 less and only does 1400x1050 instead of 1600x1200. However, it still looks quite nice, esp. if you don't want Windoze or Office. I would only recommend the Inspiron for the insane screen though. If you don't need that, get a VAIO. :) > www.discountpcsales.com > > On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > >> >> >> On 10-Nov-00 Michael Lucas wrote: >> > I'm shocked. My new boss has approved about $3k for a UNIX laptop for >> > me. I've never spent that much money on a personal PC in my life. >> > >> > So, any recommendations? I need the ability to use 256meg of RAM and >> > X-windows. >> >> Depends on what you want. If you want something real light and portable, >> the >> various VAIO's I have seen are nice. If you want a big honkin' screen like >> I >> do, then I recommend the Dell Inspiron 5000e with the 1600x1200 screen. If >> you >> don't get the DVD ROM drive and you get the 5 gig hard drive with 128 MB of >> ram >> I believe it is about ~$2800 US. That gives you some room to play with to >> get >> 256 MB of ram at least, and if you can put in a little of your own you can >> get >> a nicer-sized hard drive, etc. The sound works fine in both -stable and >> -current. X works, but you can't use 4.0.1 on it, you have to cvsup the X >> sources and use an X-current server. :-P I haven't tried X 3.3.6, though it >> seems to have a ATI rage 128 driver, so it might work as well. One known >> problem is that apm support won't work under FreeBSD because of a bug in the >> BIOS. :-( pccard and USB work fine though. The real win is the screen >> though. >> :) >> >> > Thanks, >> > Michael >> >> -- >> >> John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ >> PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc >> "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message >> > > -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 13: 6: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (207-167-15-66.dsl.worldgate.ca [207.167.15.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A0937B479; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAAL5vN36995; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:06:01 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011102106.eAAL5vN36995@orthanc.ab.ca> To: John Baldwin Cc: John Sconiers , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, Michael Lucas Subject: Re: laptop recommendations In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:29:10 PST." Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:05:56 -0700 From: Lyndon Nerenberg Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "John" == John Baldwin writes: John> If you throw in the extra battery, Windows (everyone plays John> games, right :-P), and Office then you end up with a machine John> that is $100 less and only does 1400x1050 instead of John> 1600x1200. However, it still looks quite nice, esp. if you John> don't want Windoze or Office. I would only recommend the John> Inspiron for the insane screen though. If you don't need John> that, get a VAIO. :) While I really like my Inspiron 7000, *especially* the insane screen, you don't want one if you travel. Weighing in at 10 lbs it's almost half of the carry-on baggage weight allowance for many (North American) airlines. (In Canada you're typically limited to 10 kilos total weight for carry-on. Most US carriers have a non-metric equivalent limit.) Since I prefer to travel with a single backpack small enough to carry on board (even for business -- being a programmer has some advantages :-) the 7000 really limits me. --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 13:20:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.jazzfree.com (smtp1.jazzfree.com [212.106.192.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA7937B4CF for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smi-ps.com (212.106.224.254) by smtp1.jazzfree.com (NPlex 4.0.054) id 3A0AA82A0002869A for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:21:26 +0100 Message-ID: <3A0C654D.923DF453@smi-ps.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:14:53 +0100 From: Miguel Mendez Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Problems initializing Thinkpad's CardBus Bridge with 4.1.1-RELEASE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi people, I was finally able to get my ne2000 clone pcmcia card working properly on my Thinkpad 310. It works ok with 4.1.1-RELEASE (I couldn't get it to work with 3.2 or 3.5.1, with or w/o PAO). Now the problem is that if I do not boot into Win98 first and reset to boot into FreeBSD, somehow the CardBus bridge doesn't initialize properly, and configures itself to [pci only] mode, which seems to cause a 'ed0 : device timeout' message whenever I try to access the net, even when ifconfig sets the ip address. If I boot W98 and then reset it works and show a message as follows: pcic-pci0: irq 9 at device 4.0 on pci0 pcic-pci0: TI113X PCI Config Reg: [CSC parallel isa irq] If I don't run W98 instead of that it set to pci and doesn't work. I would love to remove W98 from this computer and dedicate the 3.2Gb disk to BSD, any idea why is this happenning? Thanks in advance, Miguel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 14: 5:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1211737B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:05:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from rune (1Cust234.tnt5.baton-rouge.la.da.uu.net [63.26.114.234]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA15090; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:05:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Arun Welch" To: "Michael Lucas" , Subject: RE: laptop recommendations Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:02:55 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20001110131753.A62744@blackhelicopters.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Depends on what feature set you want (ultraportable, big screen, dvd, etc), but I really like my Dell Inspiron 5000. You can save a bundle by buying it with the minimum memory configuration and getting your 256Mb from www.crucial.com. When I bought mine in June Dell had a 3x markup on memory. ...arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 16:17:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from digitalmoon.org (wannabe.linuxzealot.com [209.191.74.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CAA037B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (yay@localhost) by digitalmoon.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01417; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:16:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yay@yaychat.com) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:16:35 -0800 (PST) From: David To: Michael Lucas Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: laptop recommendations In-Reply-To: <20001110131753.A62744@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i like the dell inspiron 7500. i have a problem with X locking up if i leave the computer unattended for awhile. i really have to baby it, typing 'sudo apm -z' prior to getting up for a time, plus, i cannot be in an X session when i do it. other than that, i really like the dell. of course, i'm the sort that is also comforted by the sense of physical security the 10 pounds of hardware provides. the 15.1" 1400x1100 screen is great. very sharp. uptimes vary from days to weeks depending on how carefull i am with BSD. it makes a great development machine. plug in two batteries and get 6:40 of time. i had one of the ibm hard drives go bad on me, but the case i was carrying it was lame. now i carry it in a green backpack from seattle. with 128 megs of ram and a piii650 mhz processor, i process a seti unit in about 7-8 hours. On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Michael Lucas wrote: > I'm shocked. My new boss has approved about $3k for a UNIX laptop for > me. I've never spent that much money on a personal PC in my life. > > So, any recommendations? I need the ability to use 256meg of RAM and > X-windows. > > Thanks, > Michael > > -- > Michael Lucas > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 10 17:24:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486DC37B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([24.12.186.185]) by femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001111012319.PGJJ16459.femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:23:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3A0CA00C.F740560A@home.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:25:32 -0800 From: Rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: laptop recommendations References: <20001110131753.A62744@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas wrote: > > I'm shocked. My new boss has approved about $3k for a UNIX laptop for > me. I've never spent that much money on a personal PC in my life. > > So, any recommendations? I need the ability to use 256meg of RAM and > X-windows. > > Thanks, > Michael > > -- > Michael Lucas > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message I have an Acer 602TER. I got more features/$ than if I would have bought a Sony, my second choice. I have had no problems with it. Sound is now supported in the kernel for it. I have never tried the modem. I use its internal ethernet. It ships with CDRW, an external USB floppy is required. Battery life with FreeBSD is about 4 hours. With win2k it is 6 hours! Cost $2500. Have fun shopping. Rob. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 11 8: 3:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rodan.water-programs.com (cc994333-a.rcrdva1.ca.home.com [24.176.177.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4DD37B4C5 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wfwnet@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rodan.water-programs.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eABG2mZ00955; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:02:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joseph@randomnetworks.com) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:02:48 -0800 (PST) From: joseph@randomnetworks.com X-Sender: scottj@rodan.water-programs.com To: David Cc: Michael Lucas , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: laptop recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, David wrote: # i like the dell inspiron 7500. # # i have a problem with X locking up if i leave the computer unattended for # awhile. i really have to baby it, typing 'sudo apm -z' prior to getting # up for a time, plus, i cannot be in an X session when i do it. What version of XFree86 are you using? I've got an Inspiron 7500 that did the same thing until I upgrade from XFree86 4.0.0 to 4.0.1. Now my screen doesn't freak out and suspend while in X works also. # # other than that, i really like the dell. of course, i'm the sort that is # also comforted by the sense of physical security the 10 pounds of # hardware provides. # # the 15.1" 1400x1100 screen is great. very sharp. # # uptimes vary from days to weeks depending on how carefull i am with BSD. # # it makes a great development machine. # # plug in two batteries and get 6:40 of time. # # i had one of the ibm hard drives go bad on me, but the case i was carrying # it was lame. now i carry it in a green backpack from seattle. # # with 128 megs of ram and a piii650 mhz processor, i process a seti unit in # about 7-8 hours. # # On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Michael Lucas wrote: # # > I'm shocked. My new boss has approved about $3k for a UNIX laptop for # > me. I've never spent that much money on a personal PC in my life. # > # > So, any recommendations? I need the ability to use 256meg of RAM and # > X-windows. # > # > Thanks, # > Michael # > # > -- # > Michael Lucas # > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org # > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ # > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons # > # > # > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org # > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message # > # # # # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org # with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message # -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Joseph Scott The Office Of Water Programs | | joseph@randomnetworks.com joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu | -------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 11 10:42:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cecov.masternet.it (cecov.masternet.it [194.184.65.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABA037B479 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from suzy.scotty.masternet.it (modem44.masternet.it [194.184.65.104]) by cecov.masternet.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eABIe5f54610 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:40:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001111194305.02591ea0@194.184.65.7> X-Sender: gmarco@194.184.65.7 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:45:43 +0100 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: Toshiba Tecra 8100 with S3 Savage/MX In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001109212420.02a7ee18@mailbox.telia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10/11/2000, Mike Nowlin wrote: > > At 10:25 PM 11/9/2000, Slade Edmonds wrote: > > >Is it possible to get the S3 Savage/MX working with X? According to docs, > > >the 3.3.6 server claims to support it, but actually does not. So, I tried > > >the 4.0.1 server included in the ports section in hopes that I would see > > >an s3_savage entry, but I have had no luck. Any help is appreciated. > > > > I haven't had the time to try this but it looks good. > > http://www.probo.com/timr/savagemx.html > >If memory serves, there was some patch I used from that site to get my >Satellite Pro 4360 working (Savage/IX chipset) - there are some "issues", >but it works for me. It's been 6-7 weeks since I looked at it - maybe >some of those issues are fixed now... > >(From what I hear, the IX & MX chipsets are pretty similar...) I have the same vga card on a toshiba Portege 3440. With the tim patches Xfree 3.3.6 works quite well. You can read more information, take XF86Config file at: http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html#notes84 Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco http://www2.masternet.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 11 10:48:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from kirk.giovannelli.it (kirk.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D143237B4C5 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:48:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from suzy.masternet.it (modem44.masternet.it [194.184.65.104]) by kirk.giovannelli.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eABIhPD23276 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:43:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001111194751.0277e798@194.184.65.4> X-Sender: gmarco@194.184.65.4 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:52:12 +0100 To: mobile@freebsd.org From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Hibernation of toshiba Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A little of times ago I was looking for informations about my new laptop. Mr. Chain Lee answered me and in his reply he pointed out this iussue ... "Suspend/resume the machine works well, provided you don't do it w/ X window running, and therefore quite useless. I am not sure how to do hibernation or if it does it at all. The 3440 BIOS seems to support restoring from a raw hibernation partition (type 84). I found this out accidentally by creating a partition with type set to 84. However I dont know how to get it to hibernate under FreeBSD. Would appreciate the information from anyone. " My question to you is this : How do I hybernate my toshiba 3440 providing the fact I have made a tyoe 84 partition ? Thanks to everyone .... Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco http://www2.masternet.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 11 13: 4:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (sydney.worldwide.lemis.com [192.109.197.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092E737B479 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eABBUSR05197; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:30:28 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:30:28 +0800 From: Greg Lehey To: Julian Elischer Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 802.11b access in Singapore Changi airport (was: cool) Message-ID: <20001111193028.K4535@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <20000615084805.E809@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <20001106095852.A3648@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <3A070E3B.4CAEFACD@elischer.org> <20001107145128.D5188@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20001107145128.D5188@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 02:51:28PM +0800 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 7 November 2000 at 14:51:28 +0800, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 6 November 2000 at 12:02:03 -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: >> >> the script I used was: >> #!/bin/sh >> kldload if_wi >> sleep 15 >> wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1 >> sleep 1 >> /sbin/dhclient >> # if dhcp fails, use the following by hand.... >> #ifconfig wi0 up 192.100.100.2 >> #sleep 1 >> #route add default 192.100.100.1 >> >> I'll play more with it on jan 27 when I go through in the other >> direction again.... :-) > > OK, that's what I suspected, that this "ANY" keyword was some kind of > kludge necessary for Microsoft systems. The first time round, I had > encryption set (don't ask), and it worked as soon as I turned > encryption off (by which time I had set the SSID to ANY). I'll try > again on Saturday when I go through in the other direction again :-) *sigh* Here I am in Singapore, but the net is down. I'll have to wait until next time. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 11 22:53:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D3937B479 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA20236 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 01:53:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 01:53:29 -0500 (EST) From: To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Teletronics driver for FreeBSD 4.1.x Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I thought some of you might be interested in this: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:27:33 -0800 From: Tony Toole Reply-To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: Re: Teletronics + Linux (or FreeBSD) Teletronics PCI WLAN drivers have just been released for FreeBSD 4.1.x, of which you can have two or more cards per machine. (in whatever mode you require). You can get the new drivers here: http://www.webworldwarehouse.com/wireless/support.htm Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message