From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Nov 6 14:12:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A08437B4CF; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01077; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:12:14 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:12:13 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: Wilko Bulte , FreeBSD-alpha mailing list , scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI cdrom attach problems on 4-stable In-Reply-To: <20001106135917.A6554@panzer.kdm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ not an alpha specific issue ] > [ ... ] > > > Nov 6 21:38:42 miata /kernel: (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): got CAM status 0x50 > > Nov 6 21:38:42 miata /kernel: (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): fatal error, failed to > > attach t > > o device > > Nov 6 21:38:42 miata /kernel: (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): lost device > > Nov 6 21:38:42 miata /kernel: (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): removing device entry > Yep, this looks like a controller issue. Matt? I've seen this before a couple of times. Don't know what the actual issue is. I can tell you that it may not get fixed for 4.2 (ENOTIME). Wilko- file a PR and keep poking me, okay? -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Nov 6 14:23: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0806637B4D7; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13sufI-0003WP-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:22:57 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA6LQKo02937; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:26:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:26:20 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , FreeBSD-alpha mailing list , scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI cdrom attach problems on 4-stable Message-ID: <20001106222620.A2796@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001106135917.A6554@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 02:12:13PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 02:12:13PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > [ not an alpha specific issue ] > > > [ ... ] > > > > > Nov 6 21:38:42 miata /kernel: (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): got CAM status 0x50 > > > Nov 6 21:38:42 miata /kernel: (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): fatal error, failed to > > > attach t > > > o device > > > Nov 6 21:38:42 miata /kernel: (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): lost device > > > Nov 6 21:38:42 miata /kernel: (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): removing device entry > > > Yep, this looks like a controller issue. Matt? > > > I've seen this before a couple of times. Don't know what the actual issue is. > I can tell you that it may not get fixed for 4.2 (ENOTIME). Wilko- file a PR > and keep poking me, okay? send-pr-ed just a minute ago. Time permitting I'll try to dig into it a bit more. Don't hold your breath.. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Nov 6 22: 4:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (pcc14.pwtc.jaring.my [202.186.142.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B3937B4D7; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eA56htk02488; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:43:55 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:43:55 +1100 From: Greg Lehey To: Gabor Kincses Cc: randy@psg.com, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: CCD Message-ID: <20001105174355.V307@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <3A038A39.D646F2F2@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3A038A39.D646F2F2@acm.org>; from gabor@acm.org on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 10:02:01PM -0600 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [moved to -questions; this has nothing to do with SCSI] On Friday, 3 November 2000 at 22:02:01 -0600, Gabor Kincses wrote: > Hello, > > This is all I had to do: Is this a reply to something? > KERNEL config file: > pseudo-device ccd 4 # Concatenated disk driver > > gabor@steinbeck: <1160> cat /etc/ccd.conf > ccd0 512 0 /dev/ad0s3f /dev/ad2s1f > > I have been using this since June. Early on I measured performance and > I got ~75% increased random read and sequential block read/write per > bonnie. bonnie suffers from file system caching but I ran it with 2x > the size of my ram, which should eliminate caching artifacts. No, it just reduces them. Use rawio to eliminate them. > BTW, the two disks are quite dissimilar (13 and 4 GB), I just made > sure to create identical sized `f' partitions. Since performance > speaks for itself, I consider the disk geometry a non-issue. If you don't mind losing 9 GB of storage space. I'd call that an issue. You'd probably be better off concatenating. > Granted I had to increase the interleave factor to much bigger than > what the man page recommended to get optimum performance. Yes, the man page is wrong. What stripe size did you use? You don't want a power of 2 as an interleave factor; that will leave all superblocks on one drive, at least for 2 disks. > You may also want to strip swap like this (/etc/fstab): > > /dev/ad0s2b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/ad2s1b none swap sw 0 0 I'm not sure what you're saying here. > I may have had to fiddle with disklabel when installing, but it > wasn't a big deal, I think I just followed ccdconfig(8). > > BTW, does anybody have numbers on IDE disk speeds to help decide if a > third disk would max-out a 33MHz UDMA IDE controller? You can't put a third disk on an IDE controller. But even the second one will give you serious performance hits, since the transfers are serialized. It's been a while since I've compared ccd and Vinum performance. Vinum used to be much better, but some problems in ccd have been fixed. You get many other advantages from Vinum. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Nov 7 7:12:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B99E37B4CF for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 07:12:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00985 for freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:12:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:12:27 -0600 From: Tim Tsai To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DPT SmartRAID VI Message-ID: <20001107091227.A624@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just setup 4.1.1-RELEASE with a DPT SmartRAID VI controller using the asr0 driver and it seems to work fine so far. Any idea if/when we can get some kind of status information from the RAID volume? I don't really care about a full-blown management utility (althouhg that we be nice) but am just interested in knowing when to swap out a failed drive remotely. Thanks, Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Nov 7 9:56:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3DF37B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:56:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [204.138.45.2]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60950137F0C; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA38209; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:56:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14856.16970.881262.369015@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:56:26 -0500 (EST) To: Tony Finch Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: [scsi] Re: iostat: tps for SCSI drives ... In-Reply-To: <20001104221118.A4627@hand.dotat.at> References: <20001104221118.A4627@hand.dotat.at> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Tony" == Tony Finch writes: Tony> "Marc G. Fournier" wrote: >> what is considered to be a 'saturated drive', as far as tps is >> concerned? Tony> Obviously it depends on the drive. My laptop maxes out at about Tony> 70tps but a good scsi disk can do 150. I use `systat -vm` to get Tony> some idea of disk load relative to capacity. And that produces a % busy column. How does it calculate that number? Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Nov 7 11:39:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (news.IAE.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0F337B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with IAEhv.nl id UAA06794; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:39:11 +0100 (MET) Received: by adv.devet.org (Postfix, from userid 100) id 489D83E12; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:38:44 +0100 (CET) To: dgilbert@velocet.ca Subject: Re: [scsi] Re: iostat: tps for SCSI drives ... X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd.scsi In-Reply-To: <14856.16970.881262.369015@trooper.velocet.net> References: <20001104221118.A4627@hand.dotat.at> Organization: Eindhoven, the Netherlands Cc: scsi@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20001107193844.489D83E12@adv.devet.org> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:38:44 +0100 (CET) From: Arjan.deVet@adv.iae.nl (Arjan de Vet) Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <14856.16970.881262.369015@trooper.velocet.net> you write: >>>>>> "Tony" == Tony Finch writes: > >Tony> "Marc G. Fournier" wrote: >>> what is considered to be a 'saturated drive', as far as tps is >>> concerned? > >Tony> Obviously it depends on the drive. My laptop maxes out at about >Tony> 70tps but a good scsi disk can do 150. I use `systat -vm` to get >Tony> some idea of disk load relative to capacity. > >And that produces a % busy column. How does it calculate that number? I submitted the patch for that % busy row. It tries to calculate the percentage of time the disk was busy (one or more active commands) during the time period. There are some gotchas when doing this calculation, see the source for full details. My personal source tree now also contains a patch for a 'queue' row which displays the number of queued commands for the disk. Arjan -- Arjan de Vet, Eindhoven, The Netherlands URL: http://www.iae.nl/users/devet/ for PGP key: finger devet@iae.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Nov 7 13: 7:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCE937B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:07:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from luzi.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE via smtp-local with SMTP; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:07:08 +0100 Received: from luzi (luzi [129.217.180.22]) by luzi.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA21311; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:07:06 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200011072107.WAA21311@luzi.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:07:05 +0100 (MET) From: "\"Ulrich_Gruenebaum\"" Reply-To: "\"Ulrich_Gruenebaum\"" Subject: Vinum setup questions To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: UpSqrcBxbUgocv3sQlIYCQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am just setting up a 16GB mirrored volume (RAID-1) with vinum on FreeBSD 4.1.1 using two 16GB harddisks. Vinum is great and I think I got it to work after all, but I have still some questions remaining. Any comments are appreciated. By the way, is there a way to get vinum's own version number out of vinum? This would be helpful for reference purposes as in this text. I find the vinum man pages quite clear and helpful, but I was unsure about how to prepare the new disks, i.e. what to do exactly *before* putting them into the vinum configuration with "vinum create", and what exactly to do *afterwards* (when vinum finally provides them as a single volume). There was not much help on this topic from the vinum manpages; is there any further documentation on this topic available (except, of course, the manpages dedicated for "disklabel" and "newfs", which do not cover aspects of application order)? To set up the mirrored volume, I tried the following, based on the "mirror" example from vinum(8). The two 16GB disks are /dev/da1 and /dev/da2. Can anyone tell me, whether what I did is halfways reasonable (for my config file, see below)? 1. disklabel -w -r da1 auto disklabel -w -r da2 auto (to get the new disks labeled initially) 2. disklabel -e disklabel -e (to manually create a vinum partition on both disks, see below for "disklabel" output) 3. vinum: create -v init -v -w mirror.p0 init -v -w mirror.p1 start mirror start mirror.p1.s0 4. newfs -v /dev/vinum/mirror (to put a filesystem on the volume) Doing so, the following problems occured (any comments appreciated): In step 3: Before "start mirror.p1.s0" (starting the subdisk of the second plex explicitly), the first of the plexes was in state "up" (as should be), but the second was shown as "faulty", which I had not expected (see vinum(4): "faulty: a plex which has gone completely down because of I/O errors"); vinum(8) (section GOTCHAS) says, the state of all newly-created plexes except the first would be "stale". Nevertheless, following the "start mirror.p1.s0" command, the subdisk was revived and afterwards showed state "up" as wanted. In step 4: vinum(8) and vinum(4) tell to run "newfs" on the *raw* volume device, e.g. "/dev/vinum/rmirror". There was no such device in my case, nor could I find any directory named "/dev/rvinum" (as in the example directory listing in vinum(4), section OBJECT NAMING), instead the only device I found was "/dev/vinum/mirror". I tried a "newfs" command on it and it seems to work. Nevertheless, I don't know what happend exactly doing so and I don't feel very well with this. It would be helpful if vinum itself could list the created volume device name(s) with the "list" command. The vinum configuration file I used: # vinum config file drive d1 device /dev/da1a drive d2 device /dev/da2a volume mirror plex org concat sd length 0 drive d1 plex org concat sd length 0 drive d2 Output of "disklabel da1" command (same for da2): # /dev/da1c: type: SCSI disk: QUANTUM <--snip--> 8 partitions: # size offs. fstype ... a: 35861388 0 vinum # (Cyl. 0-17510*) c: 35861388 0 unused # (Cyl. 0-17510*) Some suggested man page improvements: - I didn't find a notice, what the device names of the volumes are, which I just created, i.e. on which device I had to run "newfs" and which to mount finally. It seems that for the mirror example a device "/dev/vinum/mirror" was created. This could be explained in more detail and the device names perhaps be listed in section FILES in vinum(8). - The default location for the vinum logfile (vinum(8), section "LOG FILE") seems to be /var/log/vinum_history, not /var/tmp/... . The logfile should also be mentioned in vinum(8), section FILES. - A small subsection and an example in vinum(8) regarding how and in which order to initialize new disks before they can be used from vinum (i.e. "disklabel" command) would be nice; and also an example of what to do until the new vinum volume can be mounted anywhere ("newfs" command). This could be inserted in vinum(8) in section HOW TO SET UP VINUM. In my case, I've already installed some hundreds of gigabytes of diskspace on Solaris, Linux and Windows systems, but the procedure for each system differs more or less completely from the others concerning the tools to use and the order in which to use them, therefore I had appreciated some information on this in the vinum context. Thanks a lot for your answers! Cheers Ulrich -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ulrich Gruenebaum grueneba@luzi.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Nov 7 14:52:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-206-90-77.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.90.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E6E37B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA7MvbF33430; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:57:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011072257.eA7MvbF33430@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Tim Tsai Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT SmartRAID VI In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Nov 2000 09:12:27 CST." <20001107091227.A624@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 14:57:37 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I just setup 4.1.1-RELEASE with a DPT SmartRAID VI controller using the > asr0 driver and it seems to work fine so far. Any idea if/when we can > get some kind of status information from the RAID volume? I don't > really care about a full-blown management utility (althouhg that we be > nice) but am just interested in knowing when to swap out a failed drive > remotely. Adaptec are working on these tools (they're in testing right now). You should call them up and bug them about it. Their support people are funneling queries in the right direction, so the right people ought to eventually hear you. You might also talk to scottl@freebsd.org, who is more closely involved with this. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Nov 7 15: 3:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from shrubbery.satx.bikeworld.net (shrubbery.satx.bikeworld.net [209.142.99.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4396A37B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from cattleguard.bikeworld.net ([209.142.101.34] helo=roscoe.ah.bikeworld.net ident=chris) by shrubbery.satx.bikeworld.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13tHlh-000I8d-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 17:03:05 -0600 Received: from roscoe.ah.bikeworld.net ([10.0.0.2] helo=lonestar.bikeworld.com ident=root) by roscoe.ah.bikeworld.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13tHlx-000JPR-00; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 17:03:21 -0600 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001107170210.02b033c0@roscoe.ah.bikeworld.net> X-Sender: chris@roscoe.ah.bikeworld.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 17:03:20 -0600 To: Mike Smith , Tim Tsai From: Chris Snell Subject: Re: DPT SmartRAID VI Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200011072257.eA7MvbF33430@mass.osd.bsdi.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:57 PM 11/7/2000, Mike Smith wrote: >Adaptec are working on these tools (they're in testing right now). You >should call them up and bug them about it. Their support people are >funneling queries in the right direction, so the right people ought to >eventually hear you. Do you know if these tools will support the Adaptec 3200S controller which also uses the asr driver? *crosses fingers* chris -- Chris Snell 210.828.5558 W Systems & Networks Architect 210.602.2308 M Bike World of San Antonio 210.832.8331 H http://bikeworld.com http://weathertools.com http://gpstools.com "Responsibility is a heavy responsibility, man." -- Cheech Marin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Nov 7 15:13: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-206-90-77.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.90.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF51237B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA7NHjF33514; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:17:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011072317.eA7NHjF33514@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Chris Snell Cc: Tim Tsai , freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT SmartRAID VI In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Nov 2000 17:03:20 CST." <4.3.2.7.2.20001107170210.02b033c0@roscoe.ah.bikeworld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 15:17:45 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At 04:57 PM 11/7/2000, Mike Smith wrote: > > > >Adaptec are working on these tools (they're in testing right now). You > >should call them up and bug them about it. Their support people are > >funneling queries in the right direction, so the right people ought to > >eventually hear you. > > Do you know if these tools will support the Adaptec 3200S controller which > also uses the asr driver? *crosses fingers* You could, you know, ring Adaptec and ask them. Yes, I can answer all your questions. But the more FreeBSD people that call Adaptec the better their idea of the size of the FreeBSD market will get, and the more respect and effort they'll spend on us. (The answer is, of course, yes.) -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Nov 8 21: 9: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from web10307.mail.yahoo.com (web10307.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27A2437B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:09:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20001109050905.87034.qmail@web10307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.165.7.6] by web10307.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 09 Nov 2000 18:09:05 NZDT Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:09:05 +1300 (NZDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graham=20Guttocks?= Subject: query CD-ROM status from within a program? To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I'm looking for a way to manipulate a CD-ROM drive from within a shell script (ksh, perl, python, whatever). I need to be able to eject the tray, and also query whether the tray contains a disc or is empty from within the program. The first is easily accomplished with a utility like "eject", but how about the latter? Is there an easy way to tell whether a FreeBSD system's CD-ROM drive contains a disk or not? Regards, Graham _____________________________________________________________________________ http://clubs.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Clubs - Join a club or build your own! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Nov 9 11:29:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5758437B4C5; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:29:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA32118; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:26:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:26:26 -0700 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Graham Guttocks Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: query CD-ROM status from within a program? Message-ID: <20001109122625.A32056@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20001109050905.87034.qmail@web10307.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001109050905.87034.qmail@web10307.mail.yahoo.com>; from graham_guttocks@yahoo.co.nz on Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 06:09:05PM +1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 18:09:05 +1300, Graham Guttocks wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm looking for a way to manipulate a CD-ROM drive from within a shell > script (ksh, perl, python, whatever). I need to be able to eject the > tray, and also query whether the tray contains a disc or is empty from > within the program. The first is easily accomplished with a utility like > "eject", but how about the latter? Is there an easy way to tell whether > a FreeBSD system's CD-ROM drive contains a disk or not? You can eject the CD with camcontrol: camcontrol eject cd0 Or with cdcontrol: cdcontrol -f /dev/cd0c eject You can determine whether the drive is ready with camcontrol: camcontrol tur cd0 -v -C 2 -E Or with cdcontrol: cdcontrol -f /dev/cd0c status It might be easier to use camcontrol in a script, since it will exit with a non-zero status if the drive isn't ready. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Nov 9 11:44:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.tor3.targetnet.com (smtp.tor3.targetnet.com [207.176.132.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9118737B4CF; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from james by smtp.tor3.targetnet.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13txcn-000AKQ-00; Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:44:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:44:41 -0500 From: James FitzGibbon To: hackers@freebsd.org Cc: scsi@freebsd.org Subject: USB-to-SCSI converter Message-ID: <20001109144441.A39548@targetnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Targetnet.com Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a Microtech USB to SCSI converter (see http://www.microtechint.com/qs-usbscsi.html for details). Under Windows (having installed the driver that comes with), everything works without issue. Under BSD, I get this on boot: umass0: Microtech International, Inc. USB-SCSI-HD50, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 3 umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED) Are there any known workarounds for this problem ? In my particular application I won't be using multi-lun devices, but I don't think that making a "maxlun=0" assumption is a good thing to do. Are there any known workarounds for this problem ? Thanks. -- j. James FitzGibbon james@targetnet.com Targetnet.com Inc. Voice/Fax +1 416 306-0466/0452 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Nov 9 11:52:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from henny.webweaving.org (unknown [212.113.16.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9EB37B479; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.webweaving.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA40253; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:51:03 GMT (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:51:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@henny.webweaving.org Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: James FitzGibbon Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter In-Reply-To: <20001109144441.A39548@targetnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is not a problem as the thing works although it displays the message. Because it does not support the call it gives an indication that multi LUN devices are not supported. I have one of these cables and managed to newfs a 4Gb SCSI drive. Was anything connected to the cable when you connected it? Nick > I have a Microtech USB to SCSI converter (see > http://www.microtechint.com/qs-usbscsi.html for details). > > Under Windows (having installed the driver that comes with), everything > works without issue. Under BSD, I get this on boot: > > umass0: Microtech International, Inc. USB-SCSI-HD50, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 3 > umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED) > > Are there any known workarounds for this problem ? In my particular > application I won't be using multi-lun devices, but I don't think that > making a "maxlun=0" assumption is a good thing to do. > > Are there any known workarounds for this problem ? > > Thanks. > > -- > j. > > James FitzGibbon james@targetnet.com > Targetnet.com Inc. Voice/Fax +1 416 306-0466/0452 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message > -- Qube Software, Ltd. Private: n_hibma@qubesoft.com n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org http://www.qubesoft.com/ http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Nov 9 12: 0:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1E937B479; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:00:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01854; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:59:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:59:36 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: Nick Hibma Cc: James FitzGibbon , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Nick Hibma wrote: > This is not a problem as the thing works although it displays the > message. Because it does not support the call it gives an > indication that multi LUN devices are not supported. > > I have one of these cables and managed to newfs a 4Gb SCSI drive. > > Was anything connected to the cable when you connected it? I'm looking for a USB to SCSI converter myself... are there any that are a little more well-behaved and work great with FreeBSD and Windows (preferably one that Win98+ will see without having to carry around a driver disk)? I doubt I'll ever attach multi-lun devices to it either, but I don't like my options limited. :-) -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For IA32 and Alpha architectures. IA64 and PowerPC under development. http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Nov 9 12: 7: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.tor3.targetnet.com (smtp.tor3.targetnet.com [207.176.132.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A8E37B479; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:06:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from james by smtp.tor3.targetnet.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13txyA-000Afw-00; Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:06:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:06:46 -0500 From: James FitzGibbon To: Nick Hibma Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter Message-ID: <20001109150646.B39548@targetnet.com> References: <20001109144441.A39548@targetnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from n_hibma@qubesoft.com on Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 07:51:03PM +0000 Organization: Targetnet.com Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Nick Hibma (n_hibma@qubesoft.com) [001109 14:52]: > > This is not a problem as the thing works although it displays the > message. Because it does not support the call it gives an indication > that multi LUN devices are not supported. > > I have one of these cables and managed to newfs a 4Gb SCSI drive. > > Was anything connected to the cable when you connected it? Yes, I've tried with a Yahama external CDR and a Syquest Syjet drive. In neither case did the device show up on the probe. I do have "SCSI over USB" working on the box, since I regularly use a USB zip drive on the same machine and it comes up as device da0 right after the 'umass-sim0' probe. Can you share your kernel config and/or dmesg for that 4gb drive you mention ? Thanks. -- j. James FitzGibbon james@targetnet.com Targetnet.com Inc. Voice/Fax +1 416 306-0466/0452 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Nov 9 12:11:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04ACB37B4C5 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:11:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.190]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA9KBgt211474 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:11:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from enigma ([198.82.102.76]) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0G3R00I78XFG6H@gkar.cc.vt.edu> for scsi@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:11:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:11:40 -0500 From: George Morgan Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter In-reply-to: To: scsi@freebsd.org Message-id: <3A0ABEAC.8712.DB15638@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Along these lines I wonder if anyone has had success with the Shuttle Technology (SCM Microsystems) based USB-SCSI products? I have had great success with their parallel to scsi products. > On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Nick Hibma wrote: > > > This is not a problem as the thing works although it displays the > > message. Because it does not support the call it gives an > > indication that multi LUN devices are not supported. > > > > I have one of these cables and managed to newfs a 4Gb SCSI drive. > > > > Was anything connected to the cable when you connected it? > > I'm looking for a USB to SCSI converter myself... are there any that > are a little more well-behaved and work great with FreeBSD and Windows > (preferably one that Win98+ will see without having to carry around a > driver disk)? I doubt I'll ever attach multi-lun devices to it > either, but I don't like my options limited. :-) > > > -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net > FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. > For IA32 and Alpha architectures. IA64 and PowerPC under development. > http://www.freebsd.org > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message George Morgan Virginia Tech Electrical Engineering Class of 2000! (Graduating in 2001, Co-op) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Nov 9 14:31:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from henny.webweaving.org (unknown [212.113.16.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A273837B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.webweaving.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA40370; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:22:33 GMT (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:22:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@henny.webweaving.org Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: George Morgan Cc: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter In-Reply-To: <3A0ABEAC.8712.DB15638@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Those are supposed to work as well. Nick On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, George Morgan wrote: > Along these lines I wonder if anyone has had success with the Shuttle > Technology (SCM Microsystems) based USB-SCSI products? I have had > great success with their parallel to scsi products. > > > On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Nick Hibma wrote: > > > > > This is not a problem as the thing works although it displays the > > > message. Because it does not support the call it gives an > > > indication that multi LUN devices are not supported. > > > > > > I have one of these cables and managed to newfs a 4Gb SCSI drive. > > > > > > Was anything connected to the cable when you connected it? > > > > I'm looking for a USB to SCSI converter myself... are there any that > > are a little more well-behaved and work great with FreeBSD and Windows > > (preferably one that Win98+ will see without having to carry around a > > driver disk)? I doubt I'll ever attach multi-lun devices to it > > either, but I don't like my options limited. :-) > > > > > > -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net > > FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. > > For IA32 and Alpha architectures. IA64 and PowerPC under development. > > http://www.freebsd.org > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message > > > George Morgan > Virginia Tech > Electrical Engineering > Class of 2000! > (Graduating in 2001, Co-op) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message > -- Qube Software, Ltd. Private: n_hibma@qubesoft.com n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org http://www.qubesoft.com/ http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Nov 9 14:31:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from henny.webweaving.org (unknown [212.113.16.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D8737B479; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.webweaving.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA40361; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:17:57 GMT (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:17:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@henny.webweaving.org Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: James FitzGibbon Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter In-Reply-To: <20001109150646.B39548@targetnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Which version of the OS? Please update to a recent release of 4-STABLE if you are not there. Did you do a camcontrol rescan 0? What does that produce? All you will need is kldload usb kldload cam kldload umass or compile with the following options (I am not sure whether the CAM module is available in stable) device scbus device da device usb device umass Hope this helps. Nick On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, James FitzGibbon wrote: > * Nick Hibma (n_hibma@qubesoft.com) [001109 14:52]: > > > > > This is not a problem as the thing works although it displays the > > message. Because it does not support the call it gives an indication > > that multi LUN devices are not supported. > > > > I have one of these cables and managed to newfs a 4Gb SCSI drive. > > > > Was anything connected to the cable when you connected it? > > Yes, I've tried with a Yahama external CDR and a Syquest Syjet drive. In > neither case did the device show up on the probe. I do have "SCSI over USB" > working on the box, since I regularly use a USB zip drive on the same > machine and it comes up as device da0 right after the 'umass-sim0' probe. > > Can you share your kernel config and/or dmesg for that 4gb drive you mention > ? > > Thanks. > > -- > j. > > James FitzGibbon james@targetnet.com > Targetnet.com Inc. Voice/Fax +1 416 306-0466/0452 > -- Qube Software, Ltd. Private: n_hibma@qubesoft.com n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org http://www.qubesoft.com/ http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Nov 9 14:31:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from henny.webweaving.org (unknown [212.113.16.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4064637B4C5; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.webweaving.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA40368; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:20:42 GMT (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:20:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@henny.webweaving.org Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: James FitzGibbon Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter In-Reply-To: <20001109150646.B39548@targetnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hm, I missed the zip story. You seem to have all the bits that are necessary in your kernel. Could you compile your kernel/module with UMASS_DEBUG defined and send me the output after an attach? The 'GetMAXLUN not supported' thing does not make the driver fail, it makes it just assume that the LUN is always 0. Nick On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, James FitzGibbon wrote: > * Nick Hibma (n_hibma@qubesoft.com) [001109 14:52]: > > > > > This is not a problem as the thing works although it displays the > > message. Because it does not support the call it gives an indication > > that multi LUN devices are not supported. > > > > I have one of these cables and managed to newfs a 4Gb SCSI drive. > > > > Was anything connected to the cable when you connected it? > > Yes, I've tried with a Yahama external CDR and a Syquest Syjet drive. In > neither case did the device show up on the probe. I do have "SCSI over USB" > working on the box, since I regularly use a USB zip drive on the same > machine and it comes up as device da0 right after the 'umass-sim0' probe. > > Can you share your kernel config and/or dmesg for that 4gb drive you mention > ? > > Thanks. > > -- > j. > > James FitzGibbon james@targetnet.com > Targetnet.com Inc. Voice/Fax +1 416 306-0466/0452 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > -- Qube Software, Ltd. Private: n_hibma@qubesoft.com n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org http://www.qubesoft.com/ http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Nov 9 14:31:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from henny.webweaving.org (unknown [212.113.16.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC4D37B661; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.webweaving.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA40350; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:01:51 GMT (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:01:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@henny.webweaving.org Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Chris Dillon Cc: James FitzGibbon , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The cable is pretty decent and the fact that it does not support the call is not a problem. Nick On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Chris Dillon wrote: > On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Nick Hibma wrote: > > > This is not a problem as the thing works although it displays the > > message. Because it does not support the call it gives an > > indication that multi LUN devices are not supported. > > > > I have one of these cables and managed to newfs a 4Gb SCSI drive. > > > > Was anything connected to the cable when you connected it? > > I'm looking for a USB to SCSI converter myself... are there any that > are a little more well-behaved and work great with FreeBSD and Windows > (preferably one that Win98+ will see without having to carry around a > driver disk)? I doubt I'll ever attach multi-lun devices to it > either, but I don't like my options limited. :-) > > > -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net > FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. > For IA32 and Alpha architectures. IA64 and PowerPC under development. > http://www.freebsd.org > > > -- Qube Software, Ltd. Private: n_hibma@qubesoft.com n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org http://www.qubesoft.com/ http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Nov 9 18:43: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA4137B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([24.3.185.85]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001110024255.PEUD2160.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:42:55 -0800 Message-ID: <3A0B60DE.7D8E7F73@home.com> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 21:43:42 -0500 From: "Gary T. Corcoran" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Morgan Cc: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter References: <3A0ABEAC.8712.DB15638@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org George Morgan wrote: > > Along these lines I wonder if anyone has had success with the Shuttle > Technology (SCM Microsystems) based USB-SCSI products? I have had > great success with their parallel to scsi products. FYI: Microtech uses SCM Microsystems technology in their products, and a few months ago SCM Microsystems bought Microtech International. So it is most likely the same hardware, except perhaps for the color of the case... :-) Gary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Nov 10 9:56:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.tor3.targetnet.com (smtp.tor3.targetnet.com [207.176.132.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B297537B479; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 09:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from james by smtp.tor3.targetnet.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13uIPl-000MX5-00; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:56:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:56:37 -0500 From: James FitzGibbon To: Nick Hibma Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter Message-ID: <20001110125637.E78538@targetnet.com> References: <20001109150646.B39548@targetnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from n_hibma@qubesoft.com on Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 08:20:42PM +0000 Organization: Targetnet.com Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Nick Hibma (n_hibma@qubesoft.com) [001109 17:31]: > Hm, I missed the zip story. You seem to have all the bits that are > necessary in your kernel. > > Could you compile your kernel/module with UMASS_DEBUG defined and send > me the output after an attach? As it turns out, I got it working, but only when the device is on SCSI ID 0. Any other SCSI id and the device is not found when I run 'camcontrol rescan 0' The output is rather large, so I put it on a web server: http://people.targetnet.com/~james/dmesg.plugin http://people.targetnet.com/~james/dmesg.rescan (plugin is the dmesg output when I plugged it into the USB port, and rescan is the additional output when I ran camcontrol rescan 0). Thanks. -- j. James FitzGibbon james@targetnet.com Targetnet.com Inc. Voice/Fax +1 416 306-0466/0452 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Nov 10 10:31:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from henny.webweaving.org (unknown [212.113.16.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D08937B479; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.webweaving.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA43008; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:07:13 GMT (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:07:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@henny.webweaving.org Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: James FitzGibbon Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter In-Reply-To: <20001110125637.E78538@targetnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This makes sense as the adapter is not a ful controller, just a cheapo interface. You cannot select the SCSI id from the USB driver. Nick On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, James FitzGibbon wrote: > * Nick Hibma (n_hibma@qubesoft.com) [001109 17:31]: > > > Hm, I missed the zip story. You seem to have all the bits that are > > necessary in your kernel. > > > > Could you compile your kernel/module with UMASS_DEBUG defined and send > > me the output after an attach? > > As it turns out, I got it working, but only when the device is on SCSI ID 0. > Any other SCSI id and the device is not found when I run 'camcontrol rescan > 0' > > The output is rather large, so I put it on a web server: > > http://people.targetnet.com/~james/dmesg.plugin > http://people.targetnet.com/~james/dmesg.rescan > > (plugin is the dmesg output when I plugged it into the USB port, and rescan > is the additional output when I ran camcontrol rescan 0). > > Thanks. > > -- > j. > > James FitzGibbon james@targetnet.com > Targetnet.com Inc. Voice/Fax +1 416 306-0466/0452 > -- Qube Software, Ltd. Private: n_hibma@qubesoft.com n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org http://www.qubesoft.com/ http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Nov 10 10:59:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F09C37B4CF; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17538; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:59:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:59:15 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: Nick Hibma Cc: James FitzGibbon , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB-to-SCSI converter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Nick Hibma wrote: > This makes sense as the adapter is not a ful controller, just a > cheapo interface. > > You cannot select the SCSI id from the USB driver. Hmm.. Since I was looking for a "true" USB-SCSI controller, obviously this thing won't work. If it only works with devices set to ID 0, it will never work with a SCSI ZIP drive which only has settings for ID 5 or 6 (which is one thing I would use it with). Do the Shuttle-based USB-SCSI adapters have the same limitation? -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For IA32 and Alpha architectures. IA64 and PowerPC under development. http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message