From owner-freebsd-small Sun Nov 12 18: 0:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from zfree.co.nz (p9-max6.dun.ihug.co.nz [203.173.237.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56E1137B4C5 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 18:00:27 -0800 (PST) From: "turehu" To: Subject: You too Can make a difference Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:56:10 +1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20001113020027.56E1137B4C5@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We are a group of schizophrenic Poets and Writters. One of our best exponents Brian hare has written an Ebook of Prosetry, which is powerfull and inspiring. We invite you to visit the Prosetry webpage to find out more. http://www.cyberturf.com/dreamworks thank you for your attention. We hope you enjoy Brian's work. The proceed from the sale of the Ebook will go to the Schizophrenic's writters and poets circle to help with ongoing costs. If this Email have reached you by mistake please unsubscribe by sending an EMail to: turehu@zfree.co.nz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Nov 13 5:39:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from p23.base (client-64-223-208-51.bellatlantic.net [64.223.208.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4A437B4CF for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 05:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from acadia.net (localhost.base [127.0.0.1]) by p23.base (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00453 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:39:59 GMT (envelope-from morel@acadia.net) Message-ID: <3A0FB6D9.8FE5FE9E@acadia.net> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:39:37 +0000 From: Morel Reply-To: morel@acadia.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: picobsd broken on 3.5-Stable Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms5F1D6456E5B021DE089EC80C" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms5F1D6456E5B021DE089EC80C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After cvsuping my sources and make world, I can no longer build picobsd on the -Stable as of this past Weekend. It's just a minor inconvenience for me, as I had backed-up another machine with a working copy. Just a heads-up for those who are thinking of doing the same. morel --------------ms5F1D6456E5B021DE089EC80C Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIIH6AYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIH2TCCB9UCAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC BbkwggKdMIICBqADAgECAgMCjEIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwgZQxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUw EwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxFDASBgNVBAcTC0R1cmJhbnZpbGxlMQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZU aGF3dGUxHTAbBgNVBAsTFENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQDEx9QZXJzb25h bCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgMTk5OS45LjE2MB4XDTAwMDUxMjE4NDAzMloXDTAxMDUxMjE4NDAz MlowQjEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEfMB0GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYQ bW9yZWxAYWNhZGlhLm5ldDCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAujZiOGV8imOI CbnIjfyZVjT5sHfBWNmg2StTcBDBLKf9MQwUUnRhAMBoyw5xLUQoME9fwDzfN89Rxor2Xw8q s3HzMAFNwtgTGWTT6WYN1NxcvnPsEjJqfg4dRqk6XmFfd4imbfQT4lckz6UmtDjw+NSksPE6 bMdffkAu9BfwUosCAwEAAaNOMEwwGwYDVR0RBBQwEoEQbW9yZWxAYWNhZGlhLm5ldDAMBgNV HRMBAf8EAjAAMB8GA1UdIwQYMBaAFIir8WCDZlX05FjHRh3AYb0j18OMMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEB BAUAA4GBAJdkB/OIB3YyTq0FMor76b3+tOTRpCqC7NR1EO0BVmFBGsUi75CD35+2/oK9mufU y6yJEt9TgnBRxzlsWlaUSHQa7SbWfQOKuViMguPGfbVl29Ry6Ntx3QmV2Ubg8Q17ykPhXj+p PI2H19GbmxZfp3xaaw4bqIhW5a0UsCdAJsvoMIIDFDCCAn2gAwIBAgIBCzANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQQFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJ Q2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlm aWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZy ZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29t MB4XDTk5MDkxNjE0MDE0MFoXDTAxMDkxNTE0MDE0MFowgZQxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYD VQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxFDASBgNVBAcTC0R1cmJhbnZpbGxlMQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZUaGF3 dGUxHTAbBgNVBAsTFENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQDEx9QZXJzb25hbCBG cmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgMTk5OS45LjE2MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQCzaVqX 1NAWC3q1xV3pIZwjcs0STEv3fs/H+8pyJPRCUqxXleN7YXoXhOf9cjk4lLTq7WWnkgZeveBl 9hm7lHl2TD65aHB1hBz0EXQAvAUsTwkDFzHM9EHUcsamXeKIRLCLLsRN8fDWhT5s85WUeJF+ QOmc0Y0VV47Cc+Uw3kb1TwIDAQABozcwNTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMB8GA1UdIwQY MBaAFHJJwnM0xlX0C3ZygX539IfnxrIOMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAGvGWekx+um27LED 2N9ycv6RYEjqxlXde/BnjsZhcOdtwqU32J23FyhWBYvdXHVvxpGQxmxmcRPQEHxrkW+G4CE2 LcHX6rIJrc8tbcaDUpv7u/6ch538t+l0kuRcl678fqzKDW9yemcsa3P1hvmd9QBu9B0Hzp2e gmMp75MJflXeMYIB9zCCAfMCAQEwgZwwgZQxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0 ZXJuIENhcGUxFDASBgNVBAcTC0R1cmJhbnZpbGxlMQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZUaGF3dGUxHTAbBgNV BAsTFENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQDEx9QZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBS U0EgMTk5OS45LjE2AgMCjEIwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCBsTAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcN AQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wMDExMTMwOTM5MzdaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBTutsAs iWHxx+ojDOLiaNoIKgQ9STBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoGCCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3 DQMCAgIAgDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBKDANBgkqhkiG 9w0BAQEFAASBgBWuY/xw7ceeEVwa1TbK1RPcluToUOVJ+xFoWXPnvvT/5EIDlNzf7GFP95Nx QdMlZ/5hWu4ARvl+L3693Mp92aSVJrzaxj76L25ds9LjsOVMARCYOlp4BF+Nk9BOoZB7Z4Am MHoXfNW5prijKAx5ew6O+6dPB6H+hHpPeDkcexcf --------------ms5F1D6456E5B021DE089EC80C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Nov 13 6:15:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334E737B4C5 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 06:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 275649B2D; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:19:15 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:19:15 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Morel Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: picobsd broken on 3.5-Stable Message-ID: <20001113141915.E34834@pavilion.net> References: <3A0FB6D9.8FE5FE9E@acadia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A0FB6D9.8FE5FE9E@acadia.net>; from morel@acadia.net on Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:39:37AM +0000 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:39:37AM +0000, Morel wrote: > After cvsuping my sources and make world, I can no longer build picobsd > on the -Stable as of this past Weekend. It's just a minor inconvenience > for me, as I had backed-up another machine with a working copy. Just a > heads-up for those who are thinking of doing the same. > > morel Can you please explain how it's broken. Which -stable are you running? 3.X or 4.X? Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Nov 13 11:16:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from waltz.SoftHome.net (waltz.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4AD637B479 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:16:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15441 invoked by uid 417); 13 Nov 2000 19:11:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20001113191127.15440.qmail@softhome.net> References: <20001113020027.56E1137B4C5@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20001113020027.56E1137B4C5@hub.freebsd.org> From: mrwho@softhome.net To: "turehu" Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: You too Can make a difference Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:11:27 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: mrwho@softhome.net Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG turehu writes: > We are a group of schizophrenic Poets and Writters. One of our best > exponents Brian hare has written an Ebook of Prosetry, which is powerfull > and inspiring. We invite you to visit the Prosetry webpage to find out > more. > http://www.cyberturf.com/dreamworks WTF? ----- MrWho ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Nov 14 8: 0:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from p23.base (client-64-223-208-51.bellatlantic.net [64.223.208.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B13537B4C5 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:00:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from acadia.net (localhost.base [127.0.0.1]) by p23.base (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00907; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:00:26 GMT (envelope-from morel@acadia.net) Message-ID: <3A11294B.5A3ACD12@acadia.net> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:00:11 +0000 From: Morel Reply-To: morel@acadia.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josef Karthauser , freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: picobsd broken on 3.5-Stable References: <3A0FB6D9.8FE5FE9E@acadia.net> <20001113141915.E34834@pavilion.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------msEE139B0FBED767220722B4CA" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------msEE139B0FBED767220722B4CA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Josef Karthauser wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:39:37AM +0000, Morel wrote: > > After cvsuping my sources and make world, I can no longer build picobsd > > on the -Stable as of this past Weekend. It's just a minor inconvenience > > for me, as I had backed-up another machine with a working copy. Just a > > heads-up for those who are thinking of doing the same. > > > > morel > > Can you please explain how it's broken. > Which -stable are you running? 3.X or 4.X? > > Joe > -- > Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? > Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) > Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message As you can see by the subject line, I was referring to 3.5 stable but there have been glitches in the 4-Stable as well. I don't think the picobsd surces are the problem as the errors refer to des and yp. 4-stable bridge builds ok if you comment out tcpdump and traceroute, but the build leaves 0k to spare and has errors on boot. As for specific errors, it varies depending on the flavor and the one I was working on has little to do with the standard plain-vanilla distro. morel --------------msEE139B0FBED767220722B4CA Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIIH6AYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIH2TCCB9UCAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC BbkwggKdMIICBqADAgECAgMCjEIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwgZQxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUw EwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxFDASBgNVBAcTC0R1cmJhbnZpbGxlMQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZU aGF3dGUxHTAbBgNVBAsTFENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQDEx9QZXJzb25h bCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgMTk5OS45LjE2MB4XDTAwMDUxMjE4NDAzMloXDTAxMDUxMjE4NDAz MlowQjEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEfMB0GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYQ bW9yZWxAYWNhZGlhLm5ldDCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAujZiOGV8imOI CbnIjfyZVjT5sHfBWNmg2StTcBDBLKf9MQwUUnRhAMBoyw5xLUQoME9fwDzfN89Rxor2Xw8q s3HzMAFNwtgTGWTT6WYN1NxcvnPsEjJqfg4dRqk6XmFfd4imbfQT4lckz6UmtDjw+NSksPE6 bMdffkAu9BfwUosCAwEAAaNOMEwwGwYDVR0RBBQwEoEQbW9yZWxAYWNhZGlhLm5ldDAMBgNV HRMBAf8EAjAAMB8GA1UdIwQYMBaAFIir8WCDZlX05FjHRh3AYb0j18OMMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEB BAUAA4GBAJdkB/OIB3YyTq0FMor76b3+tOTRpCqC7NR1EO0BVmFBGsUi75CD35+2/oK9mufU y6yJEt9TgnBRxzlsWlaUSHQa7SbWfQOKuViMguPGfbVl29Ry6Ntx3QmV2Ubg8Q17ykPhXj+p PI2H19GbmxZfp3xaaw4bqIhW5a0UsCdAJsvoMIIDFDCCAn2gAwIBAgIBCzANBgkqhkiG9w0B AQQFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJ Q2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlm aWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZy ZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29t MB4XDTk5MDkxNjE0MDE0MFoXDTAxMDkxNTE0MDE0MFowgZQxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYD VQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxFDASBgNVBAcTC0R1cmJhbnZpbGxlMQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZUaGF3 dGUxHTAbBgNVBAsTFENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQDEx9QZXJzb25hbCBG cmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgMTk5OS45LjE2MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQCzaVqX 1NAWC3q1xV3pIZwjcs0STEv3fs/H+8pyJPRCUqxXleN7YXoXhOf9cjk4lLTq7WWnkgZeveBl 9hm7lHl2TD65aHB1hBz0EXQAvAUsTwkDFzHM9EHUcsamXeKIRLCLLsRN8fDWhT5s85WUeJF+ QOmc0Y0VV47Cc+Uw3kb1TwIDAQABozcwNTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMB8GA1UdIwQY MBaAFHJJwnM0xlX0C3ZygX539IfnxrIOMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAGvGWekx+um27LED 2N9ycv6RYEjqxlXde/BnjsZhcOdtwqU32J23FyhWBYvdXHVvxpGQxmxmcRPQEHxrkW+G4CE2 LcHX6rIJrc8tbcaDUpv7u/6ch538t+l0kuRcl678fqzKDW9yemcsa3P1hvmd9QBu9B0Hzp2e gmMp75MJflXeMYIB9zCCAfMCAQEwgZwwgZQxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0 ZXJuIENhcGUxFDASBgNVBAcTC0R1cmJhbnZpbGxlMQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZUaGF3dGUxHTAbBgNV BAsTFENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQDEx9QZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBS U0EgMTk5OS45LjE2AgMCjEIwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCBsTAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcN AQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wMDExMTQxMjAwMTFaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBSL5eZy HK0o+QT+sQBU5ISTNasndTBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoGCCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3 DQMCAgIAgDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBKDANBgkqhkiG 9w0BAQEFAASBgGnz9gcUg8ipVhxRPzI8wBRnproUjTkLzF40ED6GPnrv6uMxQnHrSD9Llp7N xgO/kGXnGQLIj5wckmvwfjlJwTDo237ErJegE0gukXkQZfQhBWt2Q2S0PzotiQlJm7QyQtGE /7qafk/0thzKMO1EnXuqT63NQJ4ew3gllMiJooSO --------------msEE139B0FBED767220722B4CA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Nov 14 14:13:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.thuntek.net (unknown [206.206.98.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135A937B479 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:13:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from Silver-Lynx.com (abq-038.thuntek.net [207.66.52.38]) by mail2.thuntek.net (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAEMDHh64736 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:13:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from Don@Silver-Lynx.com) Message-ID: <3A11B8F7.BF070D27@Silver-Lynx.com> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:13:11 -0700 From: Don Wilde Reply-To: Don@Silver-Lynx.com Organization: Silver Lynx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: picobsd broken on 3.5-Stable References: <3A0FB6D9.8FE5FE9E@acadia.net> <20001113141915.E34834@pavilion.net> <3A11294B.5A3ACD12@acadia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ppp.lo: In function `MakeKey': ppp.lo(.text+0xd2): undefined reference to `des_set_odd_parity' ppp.lo: In function `DesEncrypt': ppp.lo(.text+0x104): undefined reference to `des_set_key' ppp.lo(.text+0x110): undefined reference to `des_ecb_encrypt' ppp.lo: In function `ether_Write': ppp.lo(.text+0x1654): undefined reference to `NgSendData' ppp.lo: In function `ether_Read': ppp.lo(.text+0x1686): undefined reference to `NgRecvData' ppp.lo: In function `ether_MessageIn': ppp.lo(.text+0x18ab): undefined reference to `NgRecvMsg' ppp.lo: In function `ether_Create': ppp.lo(.text+0x1e27): undefined reference to `NgSendMsg' ppp.lo(.text+0x1e68): undefined reference to `NgRecvMsg' ppp.lo(.text+0x208d): undefined reference to `NgSendMsg' ppp.lo(.text+0x217f): undefined reference to `NgSendMsg' ppp.lo(.text+0x222e): undefined reference to `NgSendMsg' ppp.lo: In function `ID0NgMkSockNode': ppp.lo(.text+0x15b58): undefined reference to `NgMkSockNode' *** Error code 1 This is what I get from 3.5-S as updated last night. My compile machine does not have DES installed at all; I use MD5. I don't know if that is what causes the second set as well (ether_XXX). -- Donald Wilde "Linking Minds and Micros" ================= S i l v e r L y n x =================== 2218 Southern Blvd., Suite 12 v: 505-891-4175 f: 891-4185 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 web: http://www.Silver-Lynx.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Nov 15 7: 7: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0446837B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:06:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 1A2279B2D; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:10:37 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:10:37 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Don Wilde Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: picobsd broken on 3.5-Stable Message-ID: <20001115151037.F76470@pavilion.net> References: <3A0FB6D9.8FE5FE9E@acadia.net> <20001113141915.E34834@pavilion.net> <3A11294B.5A3ACD12@acadia.net> <3A11B8F7.BF070D27@Silver-Lynx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A11B8F7.BF070D27@Silver-Lynx.com>; from Don@Silver-Lynx.com on Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 03:13:11PM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'll be backporting adding my recent changes to crunchgen in a few days. These allow you to specify build options (-DFOO, etc) on a per program basis from within the crunch.conf file. There are a couple of local options that you need to define to get ppp to compile. Should I also MFC these to RELENG_3? It it's broken I guess so. Joe On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 03:13:11PM -0700, Don Wilde wrote: > > ppp.lo: In function `MakeKey': > ppp.lo(.text+0xd2): undefined reference to `des_set_odd_parity' > ppp.lo: In function `DesEncrypt': > ppp.lo(.text+0x104): undefined reference to `des_set_key' > ppp.lo(.text+0x110): undefined reference to `des_ecb_encrypt' > ppp.lo: In function `ether_Write': > ppp.lo(.text+0x1654): undefined reference to `NgSendData' > ppp.lo: In function `ether_Read': > ppp.lo(.text+0x1686): undefined reference to `NgRecvData' > ppp.lo: In function `ether_MessageIn': > ppp.lo(.text+0x18ab): undefined reference to `NgRecvMsg' > ppp.lo: In function `ether_Create': > ppp.lo(.text+0x1e27): undefined reference to `NgSendMsg' > ppp.lo(.text+0x1e68): undefined reference to `NgRecvMsg' > ppp.lo(.text+0x208d): undefined reference to `NgSendMsg' > ppp.lo(.text+0x217f): undefined reference to `NgSendMsg' > ppp.lo(.text+0x222e): undefined reference to `NgSendMsg' > ppp.lo: In function `ID0NgMkSockNode': > ppp.lo(.text+0x15b58): undefined reference to `NgMkSockNode' > *** Error code 1 > > > This is what I get from 3.5-S as updated last night. My compile machine > does not have DES installed at all; I use MD5. I don't know if that is > what causes the second set as well (ether_XXX). > -- > Donald Wilde "Linking Minds and Micros" > ================= S i l v e r L y n x =================== > 2218 Southern Blvd., Suite 12 v: 505-891-4175 f: 891-4185 > Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 web: http://www.Silver-Lynx.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Nov 15 7:17:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from iguana.aciri.org (iguana.aciri.org [192.150.187.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A07437B65E for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rizzo@localhost) by iguana.aciri.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA03862; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:17:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200011151517.HAA03862@iguana.aciri.org> Subject: Re: picobsd broken on 3.5-Stable In-Reply-To: <20001115151037.F76470@pavilion.net> from Josef Karthauser at "Nov 15, 2000 3:10:37 pm" To: joe@pavilion.net (Josef Karthauser) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:17:22 -0800 (PST) Cc: Don@Silver-Lynx.com, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'll be backporting adding my recent changes to crunchgen in a few > days. These allow you to specify build options (-DFOO, etc) on a > per program basis from within the crunch.conf file. There are a > couple of local options that you need to define to get ppp to > compile. > > Should I also MFC these to RELENG_3? It it's broken I guess so. please, yes! (also the other changes to use a different objdir) cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Nov 15 9:20:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3A537B4C5 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id EDE149B2D; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:24:08 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:24:08 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Don@Silver-Lynx.com, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: picobsd broken on 3.5-Stable Message-ID: <20001115172408.G76470@pavilion.net> References: <20001115151037.F76470@pavilion.net> <200011151517.HAA03862@iguana.aciri.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011151517.HAA03862@iguana.aciri.org>; from rizzo@aciri.org on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 07:17:22AM -0800 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 07:17:22AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > I'll be backporting adding my recent changes to crunchgen in a few > > days. These allow you to specify build options (-DFOO, etc) on a > > per program basis from within the crunch.conf file. There are a > > couple of local options that you need to define to get ppp to > > compile. > > > > Should I also MFC these to RELENG_3? It it's broken I guess so. > > please, yes! (also the other changes to use a different objdir) Ok. I've just checked that my crunchgen changes work under 4.x's make release, and it does, so I'll MFC it shortly and the rest of the PicoBSD changes. JKH has given me permission to fix PicoBSD for the 4.2-release. I'll backport to 3.x as well, but I'll need someone to help me test the changes as I've not got access to a RELENG_3 machine any more. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Nov 15 12:27: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5D937B4CF for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 2DBE49B2D; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:30:38 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:30:38 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: New features in crunchgen. Message-ID: <20001115203038.D98945@pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've backported the recent changes to crunchgen to 4.x. These allow you to specify make arguments (-DFOO, etc) from within a crunch.conf file, both on a global and per-program basis. Enjoy. Joe p.s. I'll be MFCing this to 3.x as soons as the 4.2 release is safely out of the door. -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Nov 15 12:30:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from oneplusone.ch (oneplusone.ch [194.191.122.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5294B37B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by oneplusone.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id VAA30572 for freebsd-small@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:30:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ast@marabu.ch) Received: from marabu.marabu.ch (marabu.marabu.ch [192.168.21.3]) by marabu.ch (8.9.3/2000102801) with ESMTP id VAA54482 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:24:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ast@marabu.ch) Received: by marabu.marabu.ch (8.7.5/20001028-ast-8.3) id VAA03484; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:24:16 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200011152024.VAA03484@marabu.marabu.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v124.8483.6) Content-Type: text/plain X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b6) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.124.8483.6) From: Adrian Steinmann Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:24:13 +0100 To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: sio.c 3.x patch for Diamond Systems' 8-Port RS-232 PC/104 board available X-Organization: Steinmann Consulting, Apollostrasse 21, 8032 Zurich X-Phone-Numbers: Switzerland, Tel +41 1 380 30 83 Fax +41 1 380 30 85 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For those of you who are working on a small footprint FreeBSD on SBC boards with a PC/104 bus and are looking for more than just 4 additional serial ports, Diamond Systems' Emerald-MM-8 - albeit a bit expensive - has 8 ports per PC/104 board. The board supports interrupt sharing which must be initialized via SW (which I added into sioprobe). For information on the board, see http://www.diamondsystems.com/emeraldmm8.htm I have it running on Advantech's fanless 5820 3.5" SBC (see http://www.advantech.com/products/sbc/pcm-5820.htm). For now, I have patches for RELENG_3_5_0_RELEASE but intend to port them to -current and stable (we still using 3.x for these small footprint solutions). We use these boxes as secure serial terminal servers running sshd and screen. Drop me an Email if you're interested in the patch. Adrian _________________________________________________________________________ Dr. Adrian Steinmann Steinmann Consulting Apollostrasse 21 8032 Zurich Tel +41 1 380 30 83 Fax +41 1 380 30 85 Mailto:ast@marabu.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 8:28:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.thuntek.net (mail2.thuntek.net [206.206.98.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2F037B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:28:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from Silver-Lynx.com (abq-174.thuntek.net [207.66.52.174]) by mail2.thuntek.net (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAGGS5e48625; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:28:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from Don@Silver-Lynx.com) Message-ID: <3A140B10.4A48AB2E@Silver-Lynx.com> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:28:00 -0700 From: Don Wilde Reply-To: Don@Silver-Lynx.com Organization: Silver Lynx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josef Karthauser Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: picobsd broken on 3.5-Stable References: <20001115151037.F76470@pavilion.net> <200011151517.HAA03862@iguana.aciri.org> <20001115172408.G76470@pavilion.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Josef Karthauser wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 07:17:22AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > I'll be backporting adding my recent changes to crunchgen in a few > > > days. These allow you to specify build options (-DFOO, etc) on a > > > per program basis from within the crunch.conf file. There are a > > > couple of local options that you need to define to get ppp to > > > compile. > > > > > > Should I also MFC these to RELENG_3? It it's broken I guess so. > > > > please, yes! (also the other changes to use a different objdir) > > Ok. I've just checked that my crunchgen changes work under 4.x's > make release, and it does, so I'll MFC it shortly and the rest of > the PicoBSD changes. JKH has given me permission to fix PicoBSD > for the 4.2-release. > > I'll backport to 3.x as well, but I'll need someone to help me test > the changes as I've not got access to a RELENG_3 machine any more. > It would seem to me -- given the types of things that were addressed in the 4.x generational release -- that keeping the 3.x kernel supported would be a Good Thing to do for PicoBSD. I have a live project for which I desire a small DRAM and flash disk footprint, so the kernel size is an issue. The actual version I am needing is the full ppp/ssh client dialup system, although I'll have a FLASH disk which is substantially larger than a 1.44M floppy. I'd be honored to build and verify your changes on the different build versions. I do track 3.5-STABLE on a fairly regular basis (1 - 2 weeks), and if I can do this for the Project it'll make up for my lack of coding contributions. :-) I can upgrade a smaller machine to 4.x-stable so I'll have the ability to track your changes in parallel. Now, if I could just get them to finish my T-1 install... -- Donald Wilde "Linking Minds and Micros" ================= S i l v e r L y n x =================== 2218 Southern Blvd., Suite 12 v: 505-891-4175 f: 891-4185 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 web: http://www.Silver-Lynx.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 11: 1:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C5337B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27155 for freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:01:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:01:43 -0600 From: Tim Tsai To: Pico BSD Subject: FreeBSD on CF cards Message-ID: <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a system with a 32MB CF card (FreeBSD sees it as a small ATA device) and am wondering if somebody has already done some work on putting a small live filesystem on it (vs. the PicoBSD approach which is to compress everything and load from RAM). The card is too small for me to do a minimal installation but seems to be big enough where I don't need to use the MFS approach and eat up RAM. I'd prefer to just have FreeBSD boot from a live filesystem on the CF directly. Also, can somebody forward Soren's original post regarding the MachZ board he's doing? We might be interested. Thanks! Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 11: 7: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7030637B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAGJ6sQ01439; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:06:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA67585; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:06:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> To: Tim Tsai Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards Cc: Pico BSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:01:43 CST." <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> References: <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:06:53 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> Tim Tsai writes: : I have a system with a 32MB CF card (FreeBSD sees it as a small ATA device) : and am wondering if somebody has already done some work on putting a small : live filesystem on it (vs. the PicoBSD approach which is to compress : everything and load from RAM). The card is too small for me to do a : minimal installation but seems to be big enough where I don't need to use : the MFS approach and eat up RAM. I'd prefer to just have FreeBSD boot : from a live filesystem on the CF directly. We do this all the time at Timing Solutions. I have a subsetting script that will put our "base" system down on the CF and it takes up about 8MB of that. Some utilities could be axed and get the total down to about 6-7M. X is another 8M if you want the things that we want. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 11:10:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2610537B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28074; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:10:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:10:24 -0600 From: Tim Tsai To: Warner Losh Cc: Pico BSD Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards Message-ID: <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> References: <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:06:53PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is this script something you can share? I was hoping to avoid re-inventing the wheel (I am lazy, I know. ;-) Thanks, Tim On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:06:53PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> Tim Tsai writes: > : I have a system with a 32MB CF card (FreeBSD sees it as a small ATA device) > : and am wondering if somebody has already done some work on putting a small > : live filesystem on it (vs. the PicoBSD approach which is to compress > : everything and load from RAM). The card is too small for me to do a > : minimal installation but seems to be big enough where I don't need to use > : the MFS approach and eat up RAM. I'd prefer to just have FreeBSD boot > : from a live filesystem on the CF directly. > > We do this all the time at Timing Solutions. I have a subsetting > script that will put our "base" system down on the CF and it takes up > about 8MB of that. Some utilities could be axed and get the total > down to about 6-7M. X is another 8M if you want the things that we > want. > > Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 11:23:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF98337B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAGJNWQ01538; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:23:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA67766; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:23:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011161923.MAA67766@harmony.village.org> To: Tim Tsai Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards Cc: Pico BSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:10:24 CST." <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> References: <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:23:31 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> Tim Tsai writes: : Is this script something you can share? I was hoping to avoid : re-inventing the wheel (I am lazy, I know. ;-) I've posted it once, but can post it again. I'll pull what's necessary out of the cvs tree and wrap it up and post it later. In the mean time, you'll need a fresh buildworld to use this. And to get the biggest savings possible, you'll also need to do that buildworld NOSHARED=no. But do not install such a buildworld onto your desktop machine, as it links the binaries in /bin and /sbin shared which is bad when / and /usr are on different partitions. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 11:49:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A8937B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:49:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id B60C99B2D; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:53:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:53:02 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Warner Losh Cc: Tim Tsai , Pico BSD Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards Message-ID: <20001116195302.P98945@pavilion.net> References: <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> <200011161923.MAA67766@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011161923.MAA67766@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:23:31PM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:23:31PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> Tim Tsai writes: > : Is this script something you can share? I was hoping to avoid > : re-inventing the wheel (I am lazy, I know. ;-) > > I've posted it once, but can post it again. I'll pull what's > necessary out of the cvs tree and wrap it up and post it later. I'd be interested to see whether it can be incorporated into PicoBSD in some way. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 11:52:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1630F37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAGJq9Q01746 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:52:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA68269 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:52:08 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011161952.MAA68269@harmony.village.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards To: Pico BSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:53:02 GMT." <20001116195302.P98945@pavilion.net> References: <20001116195302.P98945@pavilion.net> <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> <200011161923.MAA67766@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:52:08 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20001116195302.P98945@pavilion.net> Josef Karthauser writes: : On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:23:31PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: : > In message <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> Tim Tsai writes: : > : Is this script something you can share? I was hoping to avoid : > : re-inventing the wheel (I am lazy, I know. ;-) : > : > I've posted it once, but can post it again. I'll pull what's : > necessary out of the cvs tree and wrap it up and post it later. : : I'd be interested to see whether it can be incorporated into PicoBSD : in some way. It isn't really appropriate for PicoBSD. PicoBSD uses crunchgen for its binaries and compresses everything. This is just a subset of FreeBSD for those times that you don't want the whole flaming mess, but don't want to muck with compression either, except for the kernel. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 12: 0:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A31A37B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id BA1909B2D; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:03:47 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:03:47 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Warner Losh Cc: Pico BSD Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards Message-ID: <20001116200347.Q98945@pavilion.net> References: <20001116195302.P98945@pavilion.net> <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> <200011161923.MAA67766@harmony.village.org> <20001116195302.P98945@pavilion.net> <200011161952.MAA68269@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011161952.MAA68269@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:52:08PM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:52:08PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20001116195302.P98945@pavilion.net> Josef Karthauser writes: > : On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:23:31PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > : > In message <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> Tim Tsai writes: > : > : Is this script something you can share? I was hoping to avoid > : > : re-inventing the wheel (I am lazy, I know. ;-) > : > > : > I've posted it once, but can post it again. I'll pull what's > : > necessary out of the cvs tree and wrap it up and post it later. > : > : I'd be interested to see whether it can be incorporated into PicoBSD > : in some way. > > It isn't really appropriate for PicoBSD. PicoBSD uses crunchgen for > its binaries and compresses everything. This is just a subset of > FreeBSD for those times that you don't want the whole flaming mess, > but don't want to muck with compression either, except for the > kernel. > > Warner PicoBSD is just a set of tools to get a job done (in my opinion). I'm sure that your build tools are the same kind of thing, just addressing it in a slightly different way. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 12: 3: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3FF37B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:02:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id B3E6B9B2D; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:06:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:06:39 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Pico BSD Subject: Call for testing of PicoBSD under RELENG_4. Message-ID: <20001116200639.R98945@pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been trying to fix up PicoBSD for the 4.2 release, but there are still a few things that are broken. In particular most of the disk images still don't fit! :( Basically I don't think that I'm going to be able to finish it off in the next couple of days (before the tag goes down) without a bit of help. If anyone here cares about it I'd be very grateful for you to cvsup to the current RELENG_4, test PicoBSD and suggest things that should be fixed. Cheers, Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 12: 5:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from kauha.saunalahti.fi (kauha.saunalahti.fi [195.197.53.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FF437B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.intra.net (cubical3.pp.saunalahti.fi [195.74.24.254]) by kauha.saunalahti.fi (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAGK91e16959 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:09:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from cubical.fi (junkyard.intra.net [192.168.2.2]) by snafu.intra.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA30259 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:08:06 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jml@cubical.fi) Message-ID: <3A143E01.BC3937F9@cubical.fi> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:05:21 +0200 From: Juha-Matti Liukkonen Organization: Cubical Solutions Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards References: <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> <200011161923.MAA67766@harmony.village.org> <20001116195302.P98945@pavilion.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, we are using a minimal footprint system from 8-16M flash devices, and use a modified picobsd build to generate a crunch-based filesystem. Basically, the build is aborted when the picobsd ramdisk image has been populated, and we write the image directly on to the flash disk. Works nicely, and you can get a pretty fully functional system in 4 megs. - Juha Josef Karthauser wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:23:31PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> Tim Tsai writes: > > : Is this script something you can share? I was hoping to avoid > > : re-inventing the wheel (I am lazy, I know. ;-) > > > > I've posted it once, but can post it again. I'll pull what's > > necessary out of the cvs tree and wrap it up and post it later. > > I'd be interested to see whether it can be incorporated into PicoBSD > in some way. > > Joe > -- > Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? > Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) > Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message -- Juha-Matti Liukkonen, Cubical Solutions Ltd Phone: +358(0)405280142 Email: jml@cubical.fi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 12:16:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15BA37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAGKGCQ01859; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:16:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA68486; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:16:12 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011162016.NAA68486@harmony.village.org> To: Juha-Matti Liukkonen Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:05:21 +0200." <3A143E01.BC3937F9@cubical.fi> References: <3A143E01.BC3937F9@cubical.fi> <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> <200011161923.MAA67766@harmony.village.org> <20001116195302.P98945@pavilion.net> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:16:12 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3A143E01.BC3937F9@cubical.fi> Juha-Matti Liukkonen writes: : we are using a minimal footprint system from 8-16M flash devices, and : use a modified picobsd build to generate a crunch-based filesystem. : Basically, the build is aborted when the picobsd ramdisk image has been : populated, and we write the image directly on to the flash disk. Works : nicely, and you can get a pretty fully functional system in 4 megs. The 8M image that I put on CF cards here will compress down to about 3.5M (judging from tar cf - /mnt | gzip -9 | wc). I'm not at all surprised that you can get a lot on the 4M parts, since the subset taht we use is interesting. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 12:26:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.attica.net.nz (mail.attica.net.nz [202.180.64.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B43D37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:26:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10718 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2000 20:26:07 -0000 Received: from 202-180-83-240.iff2.attica.net.nz (HELO davep200.afterswish.com) (202.180.83.240) by mail.attica.net.nz with SMTP; 16 Nov 2000 20:26:07 -0000 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.1.20001117091335.00a0cd00@pop3.i4free.co.nz> X-Sender: dmpreece@pop3.i4free.co.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:22:26 +1300 To: Tim Tsai From: David Preece Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20001116131024.A27971@futuresouth.com> References: <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 13:10 16/11/00 -0600, you wrote: > Is this script something you can share? I was hoping to avoid >re-inventing the wheel (I am lazy, I know. ;-) I've just done something very similar, and while I lost a couple of days doing it (and a CF card, Doh!), the amount I learned about FreeBSD, linkage and the booting process made the time IMHO worthwhile. As an aside: I've noticed the whole wanting to get FBSD onto a flash card is now turning into a FAQ, and I do feel that it may have a place between pico and 'full' FreeBSD. There may be some mileage in getting this together as a makefile (so as to not inflame Jordan :) and getting it together as.... a port? part of the CVS tree? I might be volunteering.... I'll have to work it out a bit more. What're people's thoughts on this? Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 12:32:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE7037B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAGKWTQ01921; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:32:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA68593; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:32:29 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011162032.NAA68593@harmony.village.org> To: David Preece Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards Cc: Tim Tsai , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:22:26 +1300." <5.0.0.25.1.20001117091335.00a0cd00@pop3.i4free.co.nz> References: <5.0.0.25.1.20001117091335.00a0cd00@pop3.i4free.co.nz> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:32:29 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <5.0.0.25.1.20001117091335.00a0cd00@pop3.i4free.co.nz> David Preece writes: : I've just done something very similar, and while I lost a couple of days : doing it (and a CF card, Doh!), the amount I learned about FreeBSD, linkage : and the booting process made the time IMHO worthwhile. How did you manage that? I've been doing lots of obscene things to these little cards and haven't worn one off yet. : As an aside: I've noticed the whole wanting to get FBSD onto a flash card : is now turning into a FAQ, and I do feel that it may have a place between : pico and 'full' FreeBSD. There may be some mileage in getting this together : as a makefile (so as to not inflame Jordan :) and getting it together : as.... a port? part of the CVS tree? I have a partial port written. I'll likely just finish that. But I need a good name. I thought of calling it FBSD, which is just a reduced FreeBSD, but that would be confusing. uFBSD also comes to mind :-). : I might be volunteering.... I'll have to work it out a bit more. What're : people's thoughts on this? I'll post what I have later today and people can make a go/nogo call on it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 13: 9:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from vasta.saunalahti.fi (mail.sci.fi [195.197.53.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F8F37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.intra.net (cubical3.pp.saunalahti.fi [195.74.24.254]) by vasta.saunalahti.fi (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eAGLAaH13195 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:10:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from cubical.fi (junkyard.intra.net [192.168.2.2]) by snafu.intra.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA30309 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:11:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jml@cubical.fi) Message-ID: <3A144CF0.56AF596C@cubical.fi> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:09:04 +0200 From: Juha-Matti Liukkonen Organization: Cubical Solutions Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards References: <5.0.0.25.1.20001117091335.00a0cd00@pop3.i4free.co.nz> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> <200011162032.NAA68593@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: : > I have a partial port written. I'll likely just finish that. But I > need a good name. I thought of calling it FBSD, which is just a > reduced FreeBSD, but that would be confusing. uFBSD also comes to > mind :-). We call ours simply "eBSD" -- originally a working term for "embedded BSD", but works as a word play for "reduced FreeBSD" too... :-) Our build contains certain product specific modifications to the core FreeBSD code, which might make the eBSD tag somewhat trademark-ish though. I think we could start calling our build "Cubical eBSD" if eBSD became the official moniker, and we moved to use the eBSD build mechanism. (hm, that would compress to "CeBSD", as in the WinCE ilk? not bad.) Other ideas: how about "uBSD" (think uber)? "MiniBSD"? "TinyBSD"? "CompactBSD" (think CompactPCI)? - Juha -- Juha-Matti Liukkonen, Cubical Solutions Ltd Phone: +358(0)405280142 Email: jml@cubical.fi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 13:29:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from p23.base (client-64-223-208-51.bellatlantic.net [64.223.208.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B58337B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from acadia.net (localhost.base [127.0.0.1]) by p23.base (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01238; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:29:50 GMT (envelope-from morel@acadia.net) Message-ID: <3A14198E.E1C5727@acadia.net> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:29:50 +0000 From: Morel Reply-To: morel@acadia.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josef Karthauser , freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Call for testing of PicoBSD under RELENG_4. References: <20001116200639.R98945@pavilion.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Josef Karthauser wrote: > > Hi, > > I've been trying to fix up PicoBSD for the 4.2 release, but there are > still a few things that are broken. In particular most of the disk > images still don't fit! :( > > Basically I don't think that I'm going to be able to finish it off in > the next couple of days (before the tag goes down) without a bit of > help. > > If anyone here cares about it I'd be very grateful for you to cvsup to > the current RELENG_4, test PicoBSD and suggest things that should be > fixed. > > Cheers, > Joe > -- > Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? > Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) > Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message Hi Joe, Ijust finished doing a make world (twice) and trying to build bridge. It gets to populating MFS tree and stops with an illegal option -o in crunchgen. This is the third time I've tried it since last night and not having any luck..... Norm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 14:52:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.aracnet.com (mail3.aracnet.com [216.99.193.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E210437B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell1.aracnet.com (shell1.aracnet.com [216.99.193.21]) by mail3.aracnet.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAGMqlN01698; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:52:47 -0800 Received: by shell1.aracnet.com (8.9.3) id OAA09475; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:52:39 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:52:39 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Beattie To: Warner Losh Cc: David Preece , Tim Tsai , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards In-Reply-To: <200011162032.NAA68593@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > I'll post what I have later today and people can make a go/nogo call > on it. > Will that include infon on X support? Brian Beattie | This email was produced using professional quality, beattie@aracnet.com | standards based software. Users of Microsoft beattie@aracnet.com | products or other substandard software should www.aracnet.com/~beattie | contact the author about receiving a Free upgrade to | FreeBSD or Linux. "FreeBSD: The power to serve" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 15:20:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F2E37B4D7 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAGNK3Q02556; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:20:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA69774; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:20:03 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011162320.QAA69774@harmony.village.org> To: Brian Beattie Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards Cc: David Preece , Tim Tsai , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:52:39 PST." References: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:20:03 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Brian Beattie writes: : Will that include infon on X support? No. But you can add it for about 8M worth of cost (depending on what you want on your box). Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Nov 16 17:31: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56CC37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 70FD69B2D; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 01:34:35 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 01:34:35 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Morel Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Call for testing of PicoBSD under RELENG_4. Message-ID: <20001117013435.U98945@pavilion.net> References: <20001116200639.R98945@pavilion.net> <3A14198E.E1C5727@acadia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A14198E.E1C5727@acadia.net>; from morel@acadia.net on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 05:29:50PM +0000 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 05:29:50PM +0000, Morel wrote: > > Hi Joe, > > Ijust finished doing a make world (twice) and trying to build bridge. It > gets to populating MFS tree and stops with an illegal option -o in > crunchgen. This is the third time I've tried it since last night and not > having any luck..... You'll need the most recent changes to crunchgen. # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/crunch/crunchgen # make obj && make depend && make && make install I MFC'd these to RELENG_4 yesterday. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Nov 17 5:22:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from lepton.subatomix.com (okc-65-26-238-193.mmcable.com [65.26.238.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2854F37B4CF for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 05:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jss@localhost) by lepton.subatomix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06130; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:29:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jss@lepton.subatomix.com) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:29:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" To: Juha-Matti Liukkonen Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards In-Reply-To: <3A144CF0.56AF596C@cubical.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry guys, I've already got a TinyBSD. I haven't been able to work on it much since two other CISCOR projects have been in more need of work for the last several months. I do, however, expect a generally usable release before the end of the year. On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Juha-Matti Liukkonen wrote: > > Warner Losh wrote: > > I have a partial port written. I'll likely just finish that. But I > > need a good name. I thought of calling it FBSD, which is just a > > reduced FreeBSD, but that would be confusing. uFBSD also comes to > > mind :-). > > We call ours simply "eBSD" -- originally a working term for "embedded > BSD", but works as a word play for "reduced FreeBSD" too... :-) > > Our build contains certain product specific modifications to the core > FreeBSD code, which might make the eBSD tag somewhat trademark-ish > though. I think we could start calling our build "Cubical eBSD" if eBSD > became the official moniker, and we moved to use the eBSD build > mechanism. (hm, that would compress to "CeBSD", as in the WinCE ilk? not > bad.) > > Other ideas: how about "uBSD" (think uber)? "MiniBSD"? "TinyBSD"? > "CompactBSD" (think CompactPCI)? =============================== Jeffrey S. Sharp (XorAxAx) jss@subatomix.com -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.12 GCS/IT/MU d-@ s-:+ a21 C++(++++) UBL+(+++$)> P L+(+++$)> E+> W++ N+(++) o? K? w++$> !O M(-) !V PS+ PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+ R(+) tv+ b+ DI++(+++) G++ e> h--- r+++ y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Nov 17 5:32: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from p23.base (client-64-223-208-51.bellatlantic.net [64.223.208.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1737737B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 05:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from acadia.net (localhost.base [127.0.0.1]) by p23.base (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00464; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:31:49 GMT (envelope-from morel@acadia.net) Message-ID: <3A14FB05.A47703CC@acadia.net> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:31:49 +0000 From: Morel Reply-To: morel@acadia.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" , freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jeffrey S. Sharp" wrote: > > Sorry guys, I've already got a TinyBSD. I haven't been able to work on it > much since two other CISCOR projects have been in more need of work for > the last several months. I do, however, expect a generally usable release > before the end of the year. > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Juha-Matti Liukkonen wrote: > > > Warner Losh wrote: > > > I have a partial port written. I'll likely just finish that. But I > > > need a good name. I thought of calling it FBSD, which is just a > > > reduced FreeBSD, but that would be confusing. uFBSD also comes to > > > mind :-). > > > > We call ours simply "eBSD" -- originally a working term for "embedded > > BSD", but works as a word play for "reduced FreeBSD" too... :-) > > > > Our build contains certain product specific modifications to the core > > FreeBSD code, which might make the eBSD tag somewhat trademark-ish > > though. I think we could start calling our build "Cubical eBSD" if eBSD > > became the official moniker, and we moved to use the eBSD build > > mechanism. (hm, that would compress to "CeBSD", as in the WinCE ilk? not > > bad.) > > > > Other ideas: how about "uBSD" (think uber)? "MiniBSD"? "TinyBSD"? > > "CompactBSD" (think CompactPCI)? > > =============================== > Jeffrey S. Sharp (XorAxAx) > jss@subatomix.com > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version 3.12 > GCS/IT/MU d-@ s-:+ a21 C++(++++) UBL+(+++$)> P L+(+++$)> > E+> W++ N+(++) o? K? w++$> !O M(-) !V PS+ PE Y PGP- t+ > 5 X+ R(+) tv+ b+ DI++(+++) G++ e> h--- r+++ y+++ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message Perhaps unterBSD fur die untermenchen? Please excuse my bad German, Danke. Norm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Nov 17 5:59:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genesis.tao.org.uk [194.242.131.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5261C37B4CF for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 05:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id BDB459B2D; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:01:47 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:01:47 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help required with a make file. Message-ID: <20001117140147.B33511@pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've come a bit unstuck with a make file generated by crunchgen. I found a problem last night with some stale object files which eventually pointed to the fact that my recent changes to crunchgen don't quite do what I'd expect. If you track the making of 'sps' below, crunchgen tries to make 'sps.lo', which depends upon all of it's object files $(sps_OBJPATHS). Problem is that these don't exist until sps_make has been run and done a 'make obj' and populated them with .o's. I can fix this by rewriting it as: sps.lo: sps_stub.o sps_make Strangely the sps_make target appears to rebuild the .o's anyway, whether they've already been built or not. i.e. if I run the sps_make run by hand in a shell the objects get build once and subsequent invokations don't rebuild them, but if I run: 'make -f z.mk sps_make' the o's get rebuild everytime. Can anyone shed a light on this for me. My make knowledge isn't as strong as it could be. Joe # z.mk - generated from z.conf by crunchgen 0.2 LIBS= BUILDOPTS+= -DNOPAM -DRELEASE_CRUNCH -DNOSECURE -DNOCRYPT -DNONETGRAPH -DNOIPSEC CRUNCHED_OBJS= sps.lo vm.lo ns.lo ls.lo zls.lo SUBMAKE_TARGETS= sps_make vm_make ns_make ls_make zls_make SUBCLEAN_TARGETS= sps_clean vm_clean ns_clean ls_clean zls_clean z: z.o $(CRUNCHED_OBJS) $(CC) -static -o z z.o $(CRUNCHED_OBJS) $(LIBS) strip z all: objs exe objs: $(SUBMAKE_TARGETS) exe: z realclean: clean subclean clean: rm -f z *.lo *.o *_stub.c subclean: $(SUBCLEAN_TARGETS) # -------- sps sps_SRCDIR=/usr/src/release/picobsd/tinyware/sps sps_OBJS= sps.o sps_make: (export MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/picobsd/netz; \ cd $(sps_SRCDIR) && make obj && \ make $(BUILDOPTS) $(sps_OPTS) depend && \ make $(BUILDOPTS) $(sps_OPTS) $(sps_OBJS)) sps_clean: (cd $(sps_SRCDIR) && make clean) sps_OBJPATHS= /usr/obj/picobsd/netz/usr/src/release/picobsd/tinyware/sps/sps.o sps_stub.c: echo "int _crunched_sps_stub(int argc, char **argv, char **envp){return main(argc,argv,envp);}" >sps_stub.c sps.lo: sps_stub.o $(sps_OBJPATHS) ld -dc -r -o sps.lo sps_stub.o $(sps_OBJPATHS) crunchide -k _crunched_sps_stub sps.lo # -------- vm vm_SRCDIR=/usr/src/release/picobsd/tinyware/vm vm_OBJS= vm.o vm_make: (export MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/picobsd/netz; \ cd $(vm_SRCDIR) && make obj && \ make $(BUILDOPTS) $(vm_OPTS) depend && \ make $(BUILDOPTS) $(vm_OPTS) $(vm_OBJS)) vm_clean: (cd $(vm_SRCDIR) && make clean) vm_OBJPATHS= /usr/obj/picobsd/netz/usr/src/release/picobsd/tinyware/vm/vm.o vm_stub.c: echo "int _crunched_vm_stub(int argc, char **argv, char **envp){return main(argc,argv,envp);}" >vm_stub.c vm.lo: vm_stub.o $(vm_OBJPATHS) ld -dc -r -o vm.lo vm_stub.o $(vm_OBJPATHS) crunchide -k _crunched_vm_stub vm.lo # -------- ns ns_SRCDIR=/usr/src/release/picobsd/tinyware/ns ns_OBJS= ns.o ns_make: (export MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/picobsd/netz; \ cd $(ns_SRCDIR) && make obj && \ make $(BUILDOPTS) $(ns_OPTS) depend && \ make $(BUILDOPTS) $(ns_OPTS) $(ns_OBJS)) ns_clean: (cd $(ns_SRCDIR) && make clean) ns_OBJPATHS= /usr/obj/picobsd/netz/usr/src/release/picobsd/tinyware/ns/ns.o ns_stub.c: echo "int _crunched_ns_stub(int argc, char **argv, char **envp){return main(argc,argv,envp);}" >ns_stub.c ns.lo: ns_stub.o $(ns_OBJPATHS) ld -dc -r -o ns.lo ns_stub.o $(ns_OBJPATHS) crunchide -k _crunched_ns_stub ns.lo # -------- ls ls_SRCDIR=/usr/src/bin/ls ls_OBJS= cmp.o ls.o print.o util.o ls_make: (export MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/picobsd/netz; \ cd $(ls_SRCDIR) && make obj && \ make $(BUILDOPTS) $(ls_OPTS) depend && \ make $(BUILDOPTS) $(ls_OPTS) $(ls_OBJS)) ls_clean: (cd $(ls_SRCDIR) && make clean) ls_OBJPATHS= /usr/obj/picobsd/netz/usr/src/bin/ls/cmp.o /usr/obj/picobsd/netz/usr/src/bin/ls/ls.o /usr/obj/picobsd/netz/usr/src/bin/ls/print.o /usr/obj/picobsd/netz/usr/src/bin/ls/util.o ls_stub.c: echo "int _crunched_ls_stub(int argc, char **argv, char **envp){return main(argc,argv,envp);}" >ls_stub.c ls.lo: ls_stub.o $(ls_OBJPATHS) ld -dc -r -o ls.lo ls_stub.o $(ls_OBJPATHS) crunchide -k _crunched_ls_stub ls.lo # -------- zls zls_SRCDIR=/tmp/zls zls_OBJS= cmp.o ls.o print.o util.o zls_make: (export MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/picobsd/netz; \ cd $(zls_SRCDIR) && make obj && \ make $(BUILDOPTS) $(zls_OPTS) depend && \ make $(BUILDOPTS) $(zls_OPTS) $(zls_OBJS)) zls_clean: (cd $(zls_SRCDIR) && make clean) zls_OBJPATHS= /usr/obj/picobsd/netz/tmp/zls/cmp.o /usr/obj/picobsd/netz/tmp/zls/ls.o /usr/obj/picobsd/netz/tmp/zls/print.o /usr/obj/picobsd/netz/tmp/zls/util.o zls_stub.c: echo "int _crunched_zls_stub(int argc, char **argv, char **envp){return main(argc,argv,envp);}" >zls_stub.c zls.lo: zls_stub.o $(zls_OBJPATHS) ld -dc -r -o zls.lo zls_stub.o $(zls_OBJPATHS) crunchide -k _crunched_zls_stub zls.lo # ======== -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Nov 17 7:49:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.thuntek.net (mail2.thuntek.net [206.206.98.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBB137B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:49:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from Silver-Lynx.com (abq-169.thuntek.net [207.66.52.169]) by mail2.thuntek.net (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAHFnAe33595; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:49:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from Don@Silver-Lynx.com) Message-ID: <3A15536F.C520990B@Silver-Lynx.com> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:49:03 -0700 From: Don Wilde Reply-To: Don@Silver-Lynx.com Organization: Silver Lynx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Preece Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on CF cards References: <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> <20001116130143.A26780@futuresouth.com> <200011161906.MAA67585@harmony.village.org> <5.0.0.25.1.20001117091335.00a0cd00@pop3.i4free.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > As an aside: I've noticed the whole wanting to get FBSD onto a flash card > is now turning into a FAQ, and I do feel that it may have a place between > pico and 'full' FreeBSD. There may be some mileage in getting this together > as a makefile (so as to not inflame Jordan :) and getting it together > as.... a port? part of the CVS tree? > > I might be volunteering.... I'll have to work it out a bit more. What're > people's thoughts on this? > That's also my requirement. I see less need for floppies, than for FLASH chips/cards. I have an MCSI flash disk (PromDISK, they call it) (http://www.mcsi1.com), and, while they are not cheap, they don't choke on dust in a commercial environment. They really don't cost a lot more as 32M than 4M, so size isn't the issue. They also configure themselves as a nice tidy C: drive in an ISA configuration, so it shouldn't be that difficult to use them. -- Donald Wilde "Linking Minds and Micros" ================= S i l v e r L y n x =================== 2218 Southern Blvd., Suite 12 v: 505-891-4175 f: 891-4185 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 web: http://www.Silver-Lynx.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message