From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 17 8:50:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4396137B401; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E717343E3B; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (robert@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAHGocx3080248; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from robert@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAHGoSau079791; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:50:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:50:28 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Drehmel Message-Id: <200211171650.gAHGoSau079791@freefall.freebsd.org> To: m.seaman@inpharmatica.co.uk, robert@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: alpha/12623: Certain valid numeric strings cause a SIGFPE when attempting Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Certain valid numeric strings cause a SIGFPE when attempting State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: robert State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 17 08:49:15 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: A fix was committed to -CURRENT. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=12623 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 17 8:51: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E760137B401; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9994143E42; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:50:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (robert@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAHGoxx3081073; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:50:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from robert@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAHGown0081039; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:50:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:50:58 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Drehmel Message-Id: <200211171650.gAHGown0081039@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nobu@rd.isac.co.jp, robert@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: alpha/17032: strtod(3) floating exception Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: strtod(3) floating exception State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: robert State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 17 08:50:40 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: A fix was committed to -CURRENT. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17032 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 17 8:51:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B1737B401; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:51:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02F843E4A; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:51:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (robert@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAHGpGx3081675; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:51:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from robert@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAHGpGAO081665; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:51:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 08:51:16 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Drehmel Message-Id: <200211171651.gAHGpGAO081665@freefall.freebsd.org> To: archie@FreeBSD.org, robert@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: alpha/43567: strtod() core dumps Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: strtod() core dumps State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: robert State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 17 08:51:00 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: A fix was committed to -CURRENT. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43567 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 17 20:39:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E256337B401; 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 17 21:58:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AA737B401 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:58:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from luftpost.plosh.net (luftpost.plosh.net [204.152.186.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2953B43E75 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Peter_Losher@isc.org) Received: from zorin.isc.org (tardis-nat.plosh.net [64.139.14.228]) by luftpost.plosh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B2A32620 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:58:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Peter_Losher@isc.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Peter Losher Organization: Internet Software Consortium Subject: Generating BIND9 rndc keys on FBSD-Alpha? Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:57:37 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200211172157.38277.Peter_Losher@isc.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am currently testing out BIND9 code on a FreeBSD Alpha (4.6.1-REL) system we have in the lab, and I keep coming up with an issue in generating rndc keys: - -=- % /usr/local/sbin/rndc-confgen -a rndc-confgen: generate key: out of entropy - -=- I already tried the usual suggestions under FreeBSD (rndcontrol on the command line and rand_irqs in /etc/conf) but to no avail. Is there a different way to seed /dev/random under the Alpha platform? (and has anyone been able to get rndc-confgen to generate rndc keys?) Thanks in advance for any help, and I'll pass the information on to the BIND developers. :) Best Wishes - - -- Peter_Losher@isc.org - Internet Software Consortium - OpenPGP E8048D08 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE92IFSPtVx9OgEjQgRAh4UAJ9RqScncatTtkqEySBBHlqe8o2hVACfU4Fq WUrihruPtW8Pnd+kEBxIQJo= =+0dr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 18 4:10: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0ED37B401 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate5.cinetic.de (mailgate5.cinetic.de [217.72.192.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1944443E77 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan.lentfer@web.de) Received: from web.de (fmomail02.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.1.46]) by mailgate5.cinetic.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id gAIC9xX15004 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:09:59 +0100 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:09:59 +0100 Message-Id: <200211181209.gAIC9xX15004@mailgate5.cinetic.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ From: Jan Lentfer To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: gcc > 3.0.4 does not build Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I can't get gcc31, gcc32 or gcc33 to build. Could someone do me the favour and check if this is a problem with my mach= ine or a general problem=3F Many thanks in advance. Jan =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F Name, Stra=DFe, Hausnummer,... nie mehr die Adressdaten eingeben, sondern einfach per vCard versenden - http://freemail.web.de/features/=3Fmc=3D021154 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 19 13:45:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3470C37B401 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from thea.blinkenlights.nl (thea.blinkenlights.nl [62.58.162.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9303B43E6E for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:45:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id BCC6239305; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:44:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B514DD581 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:44:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:44:47 +0100 (CET) From: Sten To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Alphastation 500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just wondering if someone could update the fbsd alpha hardware guide to reflect the fact that the alphastation 500 does NOT use regular ecc sdram dimms, ( this one just caught me big time ). My current guess is that it uses 5v edo/fp dimms. ( based on the difference in the notches, and the fact that 5v only exists for fp/edo ). Though no-one really seems to know :(. If someone knows the memory type then I'd like to know because it would save me loads of time chasing down the original stuff. -- Sten Spans "What does one do with ones money, when there is no more empty rackspace ?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 19 14:14:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3881537B401 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from aromo.spock.cl (aromo.spock.cl [200.27.125.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F89343E97 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@spock.cl) Received: from spock.cl (multia.spock.cl [200.27.125.107]) by aromo.spock.cl (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id gAJMFGj81609 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:15:16 -0300 (CLST) Message-ID: <3DDAB7A7.6060909@spock.cl> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 19:13:59 -0300 From: Roberto de Iriarte User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alphastation 500 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sten wrote: >Just wondering if someone could update the fbsd alpha >hardware guide to reflect the fact that the alphastation >500 does NOT use regular ecc sdram dimms, ( this >one just caught me big time ). > >My current guess is that it uses 5v edo/fp dimms. >( based on the difference in the notches, and the >fact that 5v only exists for fp/edo ). > >Though no-one really seems to know :(. > >If someone knows the memory type then I'd like >to know because it would save me loads of time >chasing down the original stuff. > > > I am quite positive that the alphastation 500 uses 5v FPM DIMM´s arranged in two banks of four rows each (I think the bus is 256 bit wide, or was it 128 bit wide with 2 way interleave ?). The dimm´s need to be 72 bit wide (ECC). I will try to find the complete spec (speed, arrangement, etc.) EDO is not supported on the 500/333 that i have. The 500/500 has a different mainboard, so this could (should) not apply to it. Regards Roberto To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 19 14:21:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFA137B401 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDB043E42 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:21:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAJML8Bt000369; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:21:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAJML7T2000368; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:21:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:21:07 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Sten Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alphastation 500 Message-ID: <20021119232107.A350@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sten@blinkenlights.nl on Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 10:44:47PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 10:44:47PM +0100, Sten wrote: > > Just wondering if someone could update the fbsd alpha > hardware guide to reflect the fact that the alphastation > 500 does NOT use regular ecc sdram dimms, ( this > one just caught me big time ). It does. It does not use SDRAM DIMMs if that is what you mean. But EDO/FP based DIMMs are also an industry standard. > My current guess is that it uses 5v edo/fp dimms. > ( based on the difference in the notches, and the > fact that 5v only exists for fp/edo ). I just checked the User Information manual and that says you need sets of 4 DIMMs. > Though no-one really seems to know :(. > > If someone knows the memory type then I'd like > to know because it would save me loads of time > chasing down the original stuff. Well, they definitely use buffered DIMMs, I have some sitting here on my desk (my AS500 was borrowed by a friend). In case you want to research if they are EDO or FPM, the chips on the DIMMs are SEC KM44C4000AS-6 Given that the AS600 uses FPM (to the best of my knowledge) I guess AS500 has FPM as well (but I could be wrong). W/ -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 19 14:22:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86C937B401 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from thea.blinkenlights.nl (thea.blinkenlights.nl [62.58.162.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EB343E3B for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:22:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id 38F7039305; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:22:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EBAD581; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:22:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:22:42 +0100 (CET) From: Sten To: Roberto de Iriarte Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alphastation 500 In-Reply-To: <3DDAB7A7.6060909@spock.cl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Roberto de Iriarte wrote: > Sten wrote: > > >Just wondering if someone could update the fbsd alpha > >hardware guide to reflect the fact that the alphastation > >500 does NOT use regular ecc sdram dimms, ( this > >one just caught me big time ). > > > > > I am quite positive that the alphastation 500 uses 5v FPM DIMM´s > arranged in two banks of four rows each (I think the bus is 256 bit > wide, or was it 128 bit wide with 2 way interleave ?). it's 256 aka 4 way interleave. > The dimm´s need to be 72 bit wide (ECC). I will try to find the > complete spec (speed, arrangement, etc.) > > EDO is not supported on the 500/333 that i have. which makes it 5v FP ? > The 500/500 has a different mainboard, so this could (should) > not apply to it. Gotta love dec, the standard dimm in the manuals means that you still have to go to them to buy some :). -- Sten Spans "What does one do with ones money, when there is no more empty rackspace ?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 19 23:10:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C0E37B401 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F04E43E4A for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:10:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from janosh@n-r-g.com) Received: (qmail 14271 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2002 07:10:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beast.n-r-g.com) ([195.134.148.23]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Nov 2002 07:10:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:11:44 +0100 From: jan janosh ivan To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alphastation 500 Message-Id: <20021120081144.000005a3.janosh@n-r-g.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws5 Win32 (GTK+ 1.3.0; Win32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sten, I use for my 500a the Kingston KVR100X72RC2/256 i. e. registered ECC. janosh ;; If someone knows the memory type then I'd like ;; to know because it would save me loads of time ;; chasing down the original stuff. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 19 23:29:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4A537B401 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:29:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from thea.blinkenlights.nl (thea.blinkenlights.nl [62.58.162.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57B243E4A for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:29:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id F267439305; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:28:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F086CD581; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:28:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:28:56 +0100 (CET) From: Sten To: jan janosh ivan Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alphastation 500 In-Reply-To: <20021120081144.000005a3.janosh@n-r-g.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, jan janosh ivan wrote: > Sten, > > I use for my 500a the Kingston KVR100X72RC2/256 > i. e. registered ECC. were talking about an alphastation 500 ( 333 in my case) not a personal workstation ( pws ) 500 :) -- Sten Spans "What does one do with ones money, when there is no more empty rackspace ?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 19 23:40:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CB837B401 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:40:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C593343E88 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:40:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from janosh@n-r-g.com) Received: (qmail 18263 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2002 07:40:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beast.n-r-g.com) ([195.134.148.23]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Nov 2002 07:40:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:42:00 +0100 From: jan janosh ivan To: Sten , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re2: Alphastation 500 Message-Id: <20021120084200.000065e4.janosh@n-r-g.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20021120081144.000005a3.janosh@n-r-g.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws5 Win32 (GTK+ 1.3.0; Win32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:28:56 +0100 (CET) Sten wrote: Oooops, sorry janosh ;;On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, jan janosh ivan wrote: ;; ;;> Sten, ;; ;;> I use for my 500a the Kingston KVR100X72RC2/256 ;;> i. e. registered ECC. ;; ;;were talking about an alphastation 500 ( 333 in my case) ;;not a personal workstation ( pws ) 500 :) ;; ;;-- ;;Sten Spans ;; ;; "What does one do with ones money, ;; when there is no more empty rackspace ?" ;; ;; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 20 4:55:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD22637B40A for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 04:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (node-c-173f.a2000.nl [62.194.23.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6ECC943E97 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 04:55:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sandrasavimbi7@lycos.com) From: "sandra savimbi" Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:57:28 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: PLS GET BACK TO ME. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021120125533.6ECC943E97@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > DEAR FRIEND, > THIS LETTER MAY COME TO YOU AS A SURPRISE DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE > HAVE NOT YET MET. THE MESSAGE COULD BE STRANGE BUT REAL IF YOU PAY > SOME ATTENTION TO IT. I COULD HAVE NOTIFIED YOU ABOUT IT AT LEAST > FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR INTEGRITY. PLEASE ACCEPT MY SINCERE APOLOGIES. > IN BRINGING THIS MESSAGE OF GOODWILL TO YOU, I HAVE TO SAY THAT > I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF CAUSING YOU ANY PAINS. > I AM MRS. SANDRA SAVIMBI, DAUGHTER OF THE LATE REBEL LEADER JONAS > SAVIMBI OF ANGOLA WHO WAS KILLED ON THE 22ND OF FEBUARY 2002 . > MY LATE FATHER, JONAS SAVIMBI WAS ABLE TO DEPOSIT A LARGE SUM OF > MONEY IN DIFFERENT BANKS IN EUROPE AND THE MOVEMENT OF HIS FAMILY MEMBERS > (INCLUDING ME) IS RESTRICTED. WE ARE FORBIDDEN TO EITHER TRAVEL > ABROAD OR OUT OF OUR LOCALITIES. PRESENTLY, THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT > MILLION, FIVE > HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MY FATHER TRANSFERRED TO NETHERLANDS IS > SAFE AND IS WITH A SECURITY FIRM. I AM THEREFORE SOLICITING YOUR > HELP TO HAVE THIS MONEY TRANSFERRED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT BEFORE MY > GOVERNMENT GET WIND OF THIS FUND. YOU MAY KNOW THAT MY FATHER WAS > A REBEL LEADER IN ANGOLA BEFORE HIS DEATH AND MY REASON FOR DOING > THIS IS BECAUSE IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THE ANGOLAN GOVERNMENT > TO TRACE MY FATHER'S MONEY TO AN INDIVIDUAL'S ACCOUNT, ESPECIALLY > WHEN SUCH AN INDIVIDUAL HAS NO RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FATHER THEREBY > KEEPING THAT MONEY FOR MY FAMILY USE. AT PRESENT THE MONEY AS I > SAID IS KEPT IN A SECURITY COMPANY IN THE NETHERLAND. > I AM CURRENTLY AND TEMPORARILY LIVING IN ANGOLA WITH MY HUSBAND. MY > BROTHER HAS A REFUGEE STATUS IN THE NETHERLANDS. MOREOVER, THE POLITICAL > CLIMATE IN ANGOLA AT THE MOMENT IS SO SENSITIVE AND UNSTABLE SO > IT WILL BE BETTER WE DO THIS TRANSACTION NOW. > WITH THIS PASSWORD AND INFORMATION I WILL SEND YOU, AND THE CHANGE OF > OWNERSHIP THAT I WILL SEND TO THE SECURITY FIRM, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO > REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS TO CLAIM THIS CONSIGNMENT FROM THE > SECURITY FIRM. WHEN YOU ARE READY, I WILL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION > NEEDED BEFORE YOU CAN GET ACCESS TO THE FUND, YOU WILL THEN PROCEED > TO NETHERLANDS WHERE YOU WILL SIGN THE FINAL RELEASE DOCUMENTS OF > THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT, MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. > I WILL GIVE YOU FURTHER DETAILS WHEN I GET YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS LETTER > ASSURING US THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS > AND THAT YOU WILL MAKE THIS TRANSACTION CONFIDENTIAL. IT IS VERY > IMPORTANT THAT YOU GIVE ME YOUR PHONE AND FAX NUMBERS WHILE THIS IS KEPT > CONFIDENTIAL. > YOU CAN CONTACT ME WITH MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, sandrasavimbi7@lycos.com > YOU CAN ALSO SEND A COPY TO MY BROTHER WHO IS SEEKING ASSYLUM IN > THE NETHERLANDS ON;davidsavimbi1@hotmail.com > > YOURS SINCERELY, > SANDRA SAVIMBI. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 20 13:54:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435E837B401 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail17.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBB443E9E for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:54:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 9196 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2002 21:54:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail17.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 20 Nov 2002 21:54:22 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAKLsC2D035901; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:54:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200211190039.gAJ0dDff033087@intruder.bmah.org> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:54:16 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD 5.0 Developer Preview #2 Now Available Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 19-Nov-2002 Bruce A. Mah wrote: > The FreeBSD Project is proud to announce the availability of the > second Developer Preview snapshot of FreeBSD 5.0 (5.0-DP2). This > snapshot, intended for widespread testing purposes, is the latest > milestone towards the eventual release of FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE, > currently scheduled for mid-December 2002. I'm happy to announce that the initial Alpha 5.0-DP2 bits are now available on ftp-master and should be appearing on ftp mirrors shortly. These bits include the FTP install directory as well as the mini and disc2 ISO images. The Alpha packages for DP2 have been built and should also be available relatively soon. I hope to have an install ISO image available in a couple of days. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 20 19:11:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6852F37B406; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from yahoo.ca (modemcable040.226-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.201.226.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9EE543EAA; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:11:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Didier_b__r@yahoo.ca) Reply-To: Message-ID: <030a44b74c7a$2638b4d3$2ae71be5@shtkwy> From: To: Didier_br@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Épargnez de 15% à 80% sur vos coûts publicitaires! Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 03:07:34 -0000 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Du bureau de Didier Bonneville-Roussy St-Barthélemy Cher ami et entrepreneur, Ceci est le premier numéro de la Lettre du marketing géométrique. Le coût de l'abonnement pour un an est de 197$. Par contre, j'ai décidé de vous envoyer cette première lettre gratuitement et de vous offrir un abonnement d'essai de trois mois pour seulement 7$. Lisez attentivement les informations que je vous livre dans ces huit pages et décidez-vous dans les 15 jours. Il y a 7 ans, lorsque j'ai commencé en marketing, je me suis rendu compte que je pouvais épargner des sommes considérables en frais de publicité en étudiant de manière approfondie la nature de la relation entre les médias et les agences de publicité, ainsi qu'entre les médias et les organismes communautaires. J'ai remarqué deux choses: les agences paient toujours moins que les autres entreprises et les organismes communautaires paient toujours moins que les agence de publicités pour faire paraître leurs annonces. J'ai découvert comment payer en tout temps le même prix que les agences (rabais de 15%) et dans certaines circonstances le même prix que les organismes communautaires (50% de rabais). Si vous me laissez vous expliquer comment tout cela fonctionne, vous serez, vous aussi, avant la fin de cette lettre, en mesure d'épargner de 15% à 80% sur vos coûts publicitaires, et même, dans certains cas, d'obtenir des pages et des pages de publicités gratuites. Commençons par les agences. À peu près tous les médias, radio, télé, journaux, magazines, les agents de listes et les sites internet offrent un rabais automatique de 15% aux agences de publicité qui placent des annonces. Lorsqu'on regarde dans le CARD (Canadian Advertising Rates And Data) et le SRDS (Standard Rates And Data Service), qui sont les deux répertoires des tarifs publicitaires, nous pouvons noter trois types de rabais: 1. Rabais au volume présenté sous forme de prix réduit par ligne agate ou sous forme de prix réduit pour un nombre prédéterminé d'insertions en un an; 2. Un rabais de 15% aux agences; 3. Un rabais pour paiement rapide (généralement de 2%). Le CARD et le SRDS portent tous deux la mention «rabais offert aux agences reconnues seulement», lorsque l'agence de publicité peut bénéficier d'un rabais. Cette mention ne vaut rien. En fait oui, elle vaut quelque chose, dans la mesure où elle vous dissuade de demander le rabais de 15% normalement attribué à l'agence, si vous ne faites pas partie d'une agence reconnue. Mais ça, les représentants publicitaires dans les différents médias ne vous le disent pas. Pourquoi? Parce qu'ils sont rémunérés à la commission et qu'il ont tout avantage à ne pas vous le dire. De plus, si vous faites vraiment partie d'une agence, vous utilisez nécessairement le CARD et le SRDS et vous savez qu'il y a de tels rabais. Voici le premier secret: il n'existe rien de tel qu'une agence reconnue. N'importe quel zouave de Saint-Clin-clin peut-être une agence reconnue. Mon petit frère de neuf ans pourrait, demain matin, devenir une agence reconnue s'il disait ces neuf petits mots: «Je veux le rabais que vous attribuez aux agences.» Certains médias sont plus désagréables que d'autres et ne vous accorderont pas de rabais pour l'agence si votre compagnie ne porte pas un nom qui ressemble vaguement à celui d'une agence de publicité. Mais, si vous êtes intelligent, ce que je crois puisque vous me lisez, vous allez courir au palais de justice et vous enregistrer un nom d'entreprise du genre «Bingo Marketing» pour 45$ et rappeler ce représentant et lui dire que vous appellez maintenant d'une agence reconnue. Et vous voilà maintenant agence reconnue. Vous avez droit à un rabais de 15%. De plus, vous avez aussi droit au rabais pour paiement rapide de 2% si vos encaisses vous le permettent. C'est, en tout, 17% de rabais sur tous vos achats publicitaires que je viens de vous faire épargner. Ceci est valable pour les journaux, les magazines, la radio, la télévision, les sites internet, les agents de listes, les posters, les publi-sacs, etc. Maintenant, pour le rabais de type volume, je ne vous conseille en aucun cas de l'utiliser et surtout si une agence vous le propose. D'ailleurs, je défie n'importe qu'elle agence sur ce sujet. Prenez votre bottin et demandez-leur comment épargner de l'argent sur vos achats publicitaires. Écoutez attentivement la merde qu'ils vous servent et comparez l'information que je vous donne ici. Il n'y a aucune commune mesure. Revenons au rabais de type volume. En gros, c'est une proposition qui ne peut que défavoriser l'annonceur. D'abord, les rabais sont ridiculement bas, généralement quelques dollars sur des milliers, ensuite, d'un point de vue strictment marketing géométrique, c'est le meilleur moyen de vous faire avoir. Voici pourquoi: Il s'agit de contrats fondés sur l'utilisation du média sur une période d'un an. Par exemple vous recevez un rabais de X% si vous placez 4 pleines pages ou plus sur un an. Si vous vous rendez compte que vos annonces ne sont pas profitables et que vous décidez de ne pas honorer le contrat, vous paierez le plein prix plus une pénalité. Je pourrais vous donner des milliers de raisons pour ne pas honorer un contrat publicitaire. Et il y en a autant de bonnes. Il me suffit simplement de dire que je préfère nettement payer un peu plus cher et limiter mon risque. Ensuite, les contrats vous empêchent de prendre d'autres types de rabais non annoncés que vous DEVEZ demander vous même pour les obtenir. Le premier type de rabais que peu de gens connaissent est le rabais «premier annonceur». Lorsque vous contactez un journal, une station de radio, de télé, une revue, un site internet ou un gestionnaire de liste, demandez s'il y a un rabais «premier annonceur». Il y en a généralement un. Il varie de 15% à 25%. Maintenant, à la différence des contrats sur le volume, ces rabais «premiers annonceurs» peuvent être valides pour une période prédéterminée qui peut s'étendre jusqu'à un an. Lorsque vous demandez ce type de rabais, assurez-vous de sceller le prix pour une période d'au moins trois mois. Par exemple, au lieu de payer 354$ pour un quart de pages dans l'Expression de Joliette, vous ne paierez que 285$ par parution pendant les trois premiers mois. Faites attention. Les représentants publicitaires sont comme des rapaces sans vergogne. Si vous achetez votre publicité en décembre et que l'on vous dit que ce prix est valide jusqu'à la fin de l'année, cela ne veut pas dire jusqu'en décembre de l'année suivante, mais jusqu'au mois de janvier. Un mois au lieu de 12. Cela fait toute une différence. Maintenant, écoutez-moi bien. Tous ces rabais sont commissionnables, c'est-à-dire que si vous obtenez 20% de rabais comme «premier annonceur» vous pouvez aussi obtenir le 15% de rabais supplémentaire d'une agence plus le rabais de 2% pour paiement rapide. Une publicité qui vous coûtait 1000$ vous en coûterait seulement 627,20$, soit un rabais de 37,28%. Comment les organismes à but non lucratif et les services publics peuvent vous faire épargner gros, TRÈS GROS. Nous sommes en pleine campagne de financement de Centraide. Ces deux derniers mois, Centraide à été un des plus gros annonceurs au Canada. Et pourtant, Centraide ne paie pas la moitié de ce que d'autres compagnies paient pour s'annoncer. Pourquoi? Parce que les organismes communautaires et les services publics comme les SADC ont des tarifs préférentiels, quand ils ne se font pas carrément donner les espaces publicitaires. Vous avez certainement remarqué que depuis quelques années, TVA, TQS Global et CFCF 12 passent des infopubs aux heures de basse écoute. Vous avez sans doute remarqué que, très souvent, les stations de radio et de télé, les journaux et les revues, annoncent leurs propres suppléments, émissions spéciales et présentent des annonces de services publics. C'est ce que j'appelle des fillers. Ces publicités sont là pour une chose: ne pas vous présenter 30 secondes d'écran noir, de plat sonore ou ne pas présenter de pages blanches. Ces temps d'antenne et ces espaces publicitaires ne rapportent rien à la station ou à la publication. À chaque jour ou à chaque publication, à peu près 5% à 10% de l'espace publicitaire est invendu ou non utilisé pour cause de problème technique. C'est là que vous pouvez épargner beaucoup. Ces espaces sont généralement donnés ou vendus à prix ridicules aux services publics et aux organismes communautaires. Une autre preuve courante que les médias perdent énormément d'argent sur les espaces invendus est la publicité interne, comme l'annonce d'émission de radio, de cahiers spéciaux, etc. Par exemple, je sais que la Presse du 16 novembre 2002 avait un inventaire de 21 250$ invendu dans le cahier affaires seulement. Soit 2 demi pages et 1 quart de page. Comme je n'ai pas porté très attention aux autres cahiers, je ne saurais me prononcer sur le reste. Ceci étant dit, n'appelez pas votre représentant publicitaire pour lui demander. Il vous répondra non, ou vous dira qu'il ne sait pas de quoi vous parlez. D'abord, il n'a aucun intérêt à vous dire que des demi pages sont disponibles pour une bouchée de pain. Ensuite les représentants publicitaires ne sont pas au courant de ce qui arrive aux espaces invendus. Certains pourraient s'échapper et vous faire découvrir le pot-aux-roses. Je sais, vous ne lisez pas ceci pour connaître mon opinion sur les représentants publicitaires, mais pour épargner un paquet de bidoux sur votre prochaine campagne. Dans ce cas, écoutez. Vous n'êtes ni propriétaire de journal, ni dirigeant de services publics ou de groupe à but non-lucratif, mais vous pouvez épargner jusqu'à 80% sur vos coûts publicitaires en suivant ma démarche pas à pas. Ce que vous devez savoir est que vous n'avez pas la possibilité de choisir votre emplacement, ni la date de parution lorsque vous fonctionnez avec les espaces invendus. Il est aussi inutile de demander aux représentants publicitaires comment procéder. Votre publicité doit être prête et dans les mains dea médias au moment où ils sont prêt à la faire paraître. Autre chose à savoir: les imprimés ont toujours un coût intrinsèque à la parution d'une publicité. Ces coûts sont reliés à la production de l'épreuve et l'impression de votre annonce, alors ne leur faites pas l'insulte de leur offrir une somme riducule. Ce n'est pas le cas pour les médias électroniques tels que la télé, la radio et internet. Pour les médias électroniques vous pouvez facilement obtenir jusqu'à 80% de rabais. Il faut absolument que vous laissiez paraître à votre interlocuteur que vous connaissez les règles du jeu. Voici ce que vous devez faire: 1. Préparez votre publicité. Un mécanique (négatif de votre annonce) pour les imprimés et une cassette pour les radios et télés. 2. Faites une liste des directeurs de vente chez les médias que vous voulez utiliser; eux seuls ont le pouvoir de prendre une décision. Vous pouvez obtenir cette liste dans le CARD ou le SRDS qui sont disponibles dans les bibliothèques universitaires et certaines bibliothèques municipales. 3. Préparez un chèque au nom du média en question pour un montant équivalent à 42% du tarif normal pour les imprimés et 20% pour les média électroniques. Maintenant rédigez une lettre d'une page contenant tous les éléments suivants: ¸ Expliquez qu'un de vos clients à exprimé sont intérêt de faire paraître sa publicité dans le média en question; ¸ Que vous avez dû l'en dissuader après avoir comparé les coûts avec d'autres publications du même genre; ¸ Que dans ces publications, la publicité n'est profitable que lorsque vous travaillez sur des espaces invendus; ¸ Expliquez ce qu'est un espace invendu et ce que le média en fait généralement; ¸ Expliquez que vous avez émis un chèque équivalent à 42% du tarif régulier (50% + le 15% à l'agence) et que vous avez envoyé un mécanique de l'annonce. Le montant peut descendre jusqu'à 20% pour les médias électroniques; ¸ Dites que le média peut encaisser le chèque dès qu'il fera paraître la publicité sous ces conditions ou détruire le chèque et l'annonce s'il refuse; ¸ Donnez votre numéro de téléphone au cas où votre interlocuteur aurait une question; Et envoyez-la par Federal Express, Purolator ou UPS. Voici ce qui va arriver. Une certaine proportion de média vont rejeter votre offre. Certains vont l'accepter et la vaste majorité va vous contacter pour négocier un tarif préférentiel plus élevé que votre proposition. C'est à peu près tout ce que j'ai à dire sur le sujet ce mois-ci. Il me reste quelques trucs dans mon sac à surprise que je vous dévoilerai dans d'autres lettres. Chaque mois, vous recevrez un numéro comme celui-ci. Plein de trucs et de secrets marketing inconnus du public. En fait, la plupart des consultants en marketing et agences de publicité n'ont jamais utilisé, ni même entendu parler de ces techniques et stratégies. Abonnez-vous pour trois mois pour seulement 7$ La lettre du marketing géométrique sera vendue à 197$ par année dans quelques semaines. Mais, durant la période de lancement, vous pouvez prendre un abonnement de trois mois pour seulement 7$. Je sais très bien que les gens d'affaires réellement interressés à utiliser les stratégies que je présente reconnaîtront la valeur de la Lettre du marketing géométrique. Je sais qu'après votre abonnement d'essai, vous en voudrez plus et que vous renouvellerez votre abonnement au tarif régulier. Pour quelqu'un qui fait un minimum de publicité, cette première lettre, à elle seule, vaut très certainement le prix de l'abonnement. Les stratégies incluses dans cette lettre ne sont qu'un pâle échantillon de ce que j'ai à vous offrir. Comme le dit mon ami et client Mathieu Lagarde «En une heure l'information et les idées de Didier m'ont été plus utiles que tous les livres et séminaires que j'ai lus et étudiés sur les affaires». Abonnez-vous avant le 1ier décembre 2002 pour seulement 7$, vous recevrez trois lettres comme celle-ci par la poste au cours des trois prochains mois. didierroussy@hotmail.com Envoyez maintenant votre chèque ou mandat poste à l'ordre de: Didier Bonneville-Roussy 692 Rang York, St-Barthélemy Québec J0K 1XO Sincèrement, Didier Bonneville-Roussy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ne plus resevoire ce courriel : Didier_b_r@yahoo.ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 21 12:53:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A69237B40A; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72EB43E91; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mbeis@wxs.nl) Received: from tsunami.bsd ([213.10.35.60]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5Y20K02.RS8; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:53:08 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:53:08 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: FreeBSD questions mailing list , FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: Input/output error on PWS600au when mounting floppy and cdrom Message-ID: FreeBSD: Homepage: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Since running FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE on my DEC/PWS600au I can't mount floppies and cdrom's anymore. In both cases I get the same error: msdos: /dev/fd0: Input/output error cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Input/output error On FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE they worked fine. The floppy and cdrom also mount on my Intel. Does anyone know how I can get them working again? Thanks, Marco -- A cynic is a person searching for an honest man, with a stolen lantern. -- Edgar A. Shoaff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 21 14:49:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FED637B401 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from aismail.ais.msu.edu (ais.msu.edu [35.8.113.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA5143E88 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:49:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murphyp1@ais.msu.edu) Received: by ais.msu.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:49:36 -0500 Message-ID: <17F0EC17EF87D311BF65009027D3C39D04DA0E8B@ais.msu.edu> From: "Murphy, Patrick" To: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Extreme time drift in SMP mode Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:49:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a 2100A with 3 CPUs and have seen the clock drift problem. I just upgraded to the 5.0-Current system as of yesterday to try the change recommended in this thread. Without the change, a "sleep 10" command takes 20 seconds to complete and the system clock loses time. With the interrupt.c patch, the "sleep 10" command completes in 7 seconds and the system clock gains time. So, it seems that the clock is off by a factor of 2 in SMP mode. If anyone would like a different patch tested, I would be glad to do so. In case you want the dmesg info for the system, it is: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Thu Nov 21 15:53:40 EST 2002 murphyp1@bsdalpha.ais.msu.edu:/usr2/FreeBSD-Obj-Current/usr2/FreeBSD-Source- Current/sys/GENERIC Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xfffffc0000866000. DEC AlphaServer 2100A AlphaServer 2100A 5/250, 250MHz 8192 byte page size, 3 processors. CPU: EV5 (21164) major=5 minor=5 OSF PAL rev: 0x4000100020116 real memory = 1071570944 (1021 MB) avail memory = 1034870784 (986 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 3 CPUs Timecounters tick every 0.976 msec Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! Patrick Murphy Michigan State University -----Original Message----- Thanks for your time in explaining this. I should be receiving some more cpu's for this thing in a day or two - I'll let you know how that changes the timing issues. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org] On Behalf Of John Baldwin Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:03 AM To: Michael A. Mackey Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org; Terry Lambert Subject: Re: Extreme time drift in SMP mode On 12-Nov-2002 Michael A. Mackey wrote: > I guess I don't understand the problem. > > It seemed to me that the problem was that not all the interrupts were > being delivered because the Lynx architecture expects each processor to > generate interrupts. Before the fix, the system lost time by an amount > which was equivalent to throwing away half of the interrupts. After my > modification, each processor is allowed to generate clock interrupts, > and the system receives the complete set of interrupts, yielding the > result that the system keeps time correctly. > > I'm sure that this is a naive picture of what's going on (and I'm not a > kernel developer), but it works. I realize that it is probably specific > to the Lynx architecture, and I of course would be happy for a 'correct' > way to allow this old box to happily crank along solving PDE's. > > > Anyway, I sure am glad to have such high quality software to run on this > box. > Keep up the great work FreeBSD-Alpha! I'll try to explain. For better or for worse, FreeBSD currently uses the following model of clock interrupts to drive hardclock() (update timecounters, handle profiling, drive softclock) and statclock() (update statistics): For each "virtual" system-wide clock interrupt, all CPU's execute statclock_process() and hardclock_process() (should be renamed to *_thread() at this point) to perform process-specific updates (profiling, stats, etc.) that need to happen on all CPU's. All but one of these CPU's execute these functions directly from their clock interrupt. One CPU executes statclock() and hardclock() directly which call the _process() variants as part of their task, but also perform system-wide updates such as update the timecounters and drive softclock(). On i386, clock interrupts are only sent to one processor in a sort of round-robin fashion. What we do there is that each time a clock interrupt occurs, the receiving CPU acts as the "master" CPU and executes hardclock() and statclock(). It then IPI's all the other CPU's in the system to simulate a system-wide clock interrupt, and all the other CPU's in the system then execute the _process() functions. When we did SMP on Alpha we wanted to avoid sending all those IPI's if possible. For one thing, IPI's in general are expensive. On the Alpha they are a bit worse though as you can only IPI one CPU at a time whereas on i386 you can send broadcast IPI's to all other CPU's at once. On at least the 4100 and DS20 type machines, we found that the clock interrupt was broadcast to all CPU's, but in a round-robin fashion. That is, if we were getting X clock interrupts / sec in UP on CPU 0, we still got X clock ints / sec on CPU 0, but we also got X clock ints / sec on CPU 1, 2, etc. but offset so that they didn't all get interrupted at once. Thus, we made the boot processor the "master" CPU for all clock interrupts and had it call hardclock() and statclock() while all the other CPU's would call the _process() variants. Basically, the system was doing the global IPI for us except that since the interrupts were staggered, there was less contesting on common locks. Now enter the 2100 into the picture. I'm not really sure what it is doing with its clock interrupts. I'm not sure if it is acting like a i386 and round-robin'ing the clock interrupts to all processors or if it is acting like other Alpha's but slowing down the clock. Probably it is acting like a i386 and we might need to just change the 2100 clock interrupt handler to use the i386 model and go and IPI the other CPU's when a clock interrupt comes in. If anyone can stick more than 2 CPU's in a 2100 system and see if the clock runs 3x or 4x as slow that might help. The reason I would prefer to just dink with the timer_freq is that it is simple and doesn't change the model that system-wide things like timekeeping only happen once per "virtual" clock interrupt. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 21 15:37:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF59B37B407 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from zzn.com (ADSL131-131.advancedsl.com.ar [200.63.131.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51F8A43E8A for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:37:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from publi@zzn.com) From: "publicc" To: Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:29:26 -0300 Reply-To: "publicc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20021121233745.51F8A43E8A@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org PUBLICC SOLUCIONES INFORMATICAS Los invitamos a visitar nuestro sitio web en: www.publiccsoluciones.com.ar Para conocer todas nuestras bases de datos de e-mail y las nuevas ofertas del mes. 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EN ESTA OPORTUNIDAD OFRECEMOS DE REGALO UN PROGRAMA NUEVO DE ENVIO DE MAILS QUE OCULTA LA DIRECCION DE IP DE LA MAQUINA REMITENTE. informes@publiccsoluciones.com.ar O AL TELEFONO 54 11 4942 0093 www.publiccsoluciones.com.ar Para no recibir mas publicidad: remover@publiccsoluciones.com.ar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 5:43:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066F637B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 05:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (207-173-241-209.bras01.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [207.173.241.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF9A43EA3 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 05:43:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from bigdaddy (bigdaddy [192.168.1.3]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 092E7EE626 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 05:43:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <009101c2922d$22899220$0301a8c0@bigdaddy> From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: Subject: Fw: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 05:43:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I posted the following to -questions a few days ago but have not received any response. I'm hoping someone here will have some suggestions as I've turned up nothing on the web other than early Miatas have buggy chipsets and are picky about graphics cards. I guess I have a Miata (DEC Personal Workstation 500a) although I have no idea if it's considered "early"? Any nudges to Alpha specific docs are welcome. I've run FBSD on the i386 for the past year or so without to much difficulty. However, I'm quickly finding that stuff that "just works" on the i386 doesn't work on the Alpha. Any tips for a new Alpha user? Thanks, Drew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:30 AM > I have built XFree86-4 from a freshly updated ports tree on an Digital > Personal Workstation 500au (Alpha). However when attempting to start > the X server, it dumps core. I have tried 'XFree86 -configure'. When > that didn't work, I used the 'xf86config' program to create a config > file choosing card 284 (Matrox Millennium 4MB) from the card database. > Now, when running 'startx', the system reboots. I have searched Google > but could not find any entries that relate to my problem. Any ideas on > how I can get this working? > > Thanks, > > Drew > > Here's the contents of the log file: > > zombie# cat XFree86.0.log > > XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) > Release Date: 3 September 2002 > If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is > newer than the above date, look for a newer version before > reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p1 alpha [ELF] > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Nov 20 07:16:39 2002 > (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 16777218.0) > (--) using VT number 9 > > (II) Module ABI versions: > XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 > XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5 > XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3 > XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 > XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3 > (II) Loader running on freebsd > (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer > ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3 > (II) Loading font Bitmap > (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 0.1.0 > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) > (II) PCI: 00:03:0: chip 1011,0019 card 0000,0000 rev 30 class 02,00,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1095,0646 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,0484 card 0000,0000 rev 43 class 00,00,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 102b,0519 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 03,00,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:14:0: chip 1011,0021 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 > hdr 01 > (II) PCI: 01:09:0: chip 1077,1020 card 0000,0000 rev 05 class 01,00,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 01:0a:0: chip 1011,000f card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 02,02,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: End of PCI scan > (II) LoadModule: "scanpci" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 0.1.0 > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) UnloadModule: "scanpci" > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a > (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: > (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: > (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: > (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) > (II) Bus -1 I/O range: > (II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range: > (II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range: > (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:20:0), (0,1,0), BCTRL: 0x20 (VGA_EN is > cleared) > (II) Bus 1 I/O range: > [0] -1 0x00008000 - 0x00008fff (0x1000) IX[B] > (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0x800fffff (0x100000) MX[B] > (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: > (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x00 (VGA_EN is > cleared) > (II) Bus 0 I/O range: > [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) IX[B] > (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0xffffffff (0x80000000) MX[B] > (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0xffffffff (0x80000000) MX[B] > (--) PCI:*(0:11:0) Matrox MGA 2064W rev 1, Mem @ 0x80150000/14, > 0x90000000/23, BIOS @ 0x80140000/16 > List of video drivers: > atimisc > r128 > radeon > ati > glint > mga > nv > rendition > s3 > s3virge > savage > siliconmotion > tdfx > tga > vga > (II) LoadModule: "atimisc" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module atimisc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 6.4.8 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "r128" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module r128: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.1 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "radeon" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module radeon: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.1 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "ati" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module ati: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 6.4.8 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "glint" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module glint: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "mga" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module mga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.1.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "nv" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nv_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module nv: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.1 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "rendition" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/rendition_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module rendition: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "s3" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/s3_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module s3: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 0.3.5 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "s3virge" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/s3virge_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module s3virge: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.8.3 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "savage" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/savage_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module savage: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.1.20 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "siliconmotion" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/siliconmotion_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module siliconmotion: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.3.1 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "tdfx" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module tdfx: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "tga" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tga_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module tga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "vga" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vga_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module vga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are > [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) IX[B] > (II) OS-reported resource ranges: > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > (II) Active PCI resource ranges: > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0xffffffff (0x80000000) MX[B]E > [1] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [2] -1 0x80020000 - 0x8003ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > [3] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > [4] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [5] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [6] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > [7] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [8] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [9] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > [10] -1 0x00009000 - 0x000090ff (0x100) IX[B]E > (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0x80000000 from 0xffffffff to > 0x8001ffff > (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0x80020000 from 0x8003ffff to > 0x80020fff > (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00009000 from 0x000090ff to > 0x0000907f > (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > [1] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [2] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [3] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > [4] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [5] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [6] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > [7] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [8] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [9] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > [10] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > (II) All system resource ranges: > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > [4] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [5] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > [7] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > [11] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [12] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [13] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:0b:0 > (II) ATI: Unshared Mach64 at PIO base 0x01CC not probed. > (II) ATI: Unshared Mach64 at PIO base 0x01C8 not probed. > (II) ATI: Shared non-ATI VGA in PCI/AGP slot 0:11:0 detected. > (II) MGA: driver for Matrox chipsets: mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, > mga2164w AGP, mgag100, mgag100 PCI, mgag200, mgag200 PCI, > mgag400, > mgag550 > (II) VGA: Generic VGA driver (version 4.0) for chipsets: generic > (++) Using config file: "/root/XF86Config.new" > (==) ServerLayout "XFree86 Configured" > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) > (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" > (**) | |-->Device "Card0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" > (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled > (**) FontPath set to > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X1 > 1R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/ > X11/fonts/100dpi/" > (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > (--) Chipset mga2064w found > (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > [4] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [5] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > [7] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > [11] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [12] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [13] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > (II) resource ranges after probing: > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > [4] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [5] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > [7] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > [10] 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] > [11] 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] > [12] 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] > [13] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > [14] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [15] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [16] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [17] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > [18] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > [19] 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] > [20] 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] > (II) Setting vga for screen 0. > (II) Loading sub module "vbe" > (II) LoadModule: "vbe" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) Loading sub module "int10" > (II) LoadModule: "int10" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) MGA(0): initializing int10 > (II) Machine type has 8/16 bit access > (II) MGA(0): No legacy BIOS found -- trying PCI > (II) Truncating PCI BIOS Length to 32768 > Symbol vgaHWEnable from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o > is unresolved! > Symbol vgaHWEnable from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o > is unresolved! > Symbol fbdevHWGetLineLength from module > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved! > Symbol fbdevHWGetLineLength from module > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved! > Symbol xf86I2CReadBytes from module > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/siliconmotion_drv.o is unresolved! > Symbol xf86I2CReadBytes from module > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/siliconmotion_drv.o is unresolved! > Symbol xf86InterpretEDID from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a is > unresolved! > Symbol xf86InterpretEDID from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a is > unresolved! > > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 11. Server aborting > > > When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send > the full server output, not just the last messages. > This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". > Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org. > > zombie# > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 5:54:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810F637B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 05:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from qescan3.qgraph.com (QESCAN3.qgraph.com [206.158.124.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA9B43E88 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 05:54:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com) Received: by sxsmtp3.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:54:21 -0600 Message-ID: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3217@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: 'Drew Tomlinson' , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: RE: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:54:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sounds like a problem I was having with my Miata when the new XFree86 came out. All I did to get things to work was to move the Matrox from the 64-bit slot to one of the 32 bit PCI slots. Of course, I am assuming that you have your Matrox plugged into one of the 64 bit slots. :) HTH, AJ -----Original Message----- From: Drew Tomlinson [mailto:drew@mykitchentable.net] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 7:43 AM To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Fw: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core I posted the following to -questions a few days ago but have not received any response. I'm hoping someone here will have some suggestions as I've turned up nothing on the web other than early Miatas have buggy chipsets and are picky about graphics cards. I guess I have a Miata (DEC Personal Workstation 500a) although I have no idea if it's considered "early"? Any nudges to Alpha specific docs are welcome. I've run FBSD on the i386 for the past year or so without to much difficulty. However, I'm quickly finding that stuff that "just works" on the i386 doesn't work on the Alpha. Any tips for a new Alpha user? Thanks, Drew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:30 AM > I have built XFree86-4 from a freshly updated ports tree on an Digital > Personal Workstation 500au (Alpha). However when attempting to start > the X server, it dumps core. I have tried 'XFree86 -configure'. When > that didn't work, I used the 'xf86config' program to create a config > file choosing card 284 (Matrox Millennium 4MB) from the card database. > Now, when running 'startx', the system reboots. I have searched Google > but could not find any entries that relate to my problem. Any ideas on > how I can get this working? > > Thanks, > > Drew > > Here's the contents of the log file: > > zombie# cat XFree86.0.log > > XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) > Release Date: 3 September 2002 > If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is > newer than the above date, look for a newer version before > reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p1 alpha [ELF] > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Nov 20 07:16:39 2002 > (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 16777218.0) > (--) using VT number 9 > > (II) Module ABI versions: > XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 > XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5 > XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3 > XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 > XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3 > (II) Loader running on freebsd > (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer > ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3 > (II) Loading font Bitmap > (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 0.1.0 > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) > (II) PCI: 00:03:0: chip 1011,0019 card 0000,0000 rev 30 class 02,00,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1095,0646 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,0484 card 0000,0000 rev 43 class 00,00,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 102b,0519 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 03,00,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:14:0: chip 1011,0021 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 > hdr 01 > (II) PCI: 01:09:0: chip 1077,1020 card 0000,0000 rev 05 class 01,00,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 01:0a:0: chip 1011,000f card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 02,02,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: End of PCI scan > (II) LoadModule: "scanpci" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 0.1.0 > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) UnloadModule: "scanpci" > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a > (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: > (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: > (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: > (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) > (II) Bus -1 I/O range: > (II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range: > (II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range: > (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:20:0), (0,1,0), BCTRL: 0x20 (VGA_EN is > cleared) > (II) Bus 1 I/O range: > [0] -1 0x00008000 - 0x00008fff (0x1000) IX[B] > (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0x800fffff (0x100000) MX[B] > (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: > (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x00 (VGA_EN is > cleared) > (II) Bus 0 I/O range: > [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) IX[B] > (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0xffffffff (0x80000000) MX[B] > (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0xffffffff (0x80000000) MX[B] > (--) PCI:*(0:11:0) Matrox MGA 2064W rev 1, Mem @ 0x80150000/14, > 0x90000000/23, BIOS @ 0x80140000/16 > List of video drivers: > atimisc > r128 > radeon > ati > glint > mga > nv > rendition > s3 > s3virge > savage > siliconmotion > tdfx > tga > vga > (II) LoadModule: "atimisc" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module atimisc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 6.4.8 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "r128" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module r128: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.1 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "radeon" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module radeon: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.1 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "ati" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module ati: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 6.4.8 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "glint" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module glint: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "mga" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module mga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.1.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "nv" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nv_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module nv: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.1 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "rendition" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/rendition_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module rendition: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "s3" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/s3_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module s3: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 0.3.5 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "s3virge" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/s3virge_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module s3virge: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.8.3 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "savage" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/savage_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module savage: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.1.20 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "siliconmotion" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/siliconmotion_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module siliconmotion: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.3.1 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "tdfx" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module tdfx: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "tga" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tga_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module tga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) LoadModule: "vga" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vga_drv.o > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module vga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.0 > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are > [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) IX[B] > (II) OS-reported resource ranges: > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > (II) Active PCI resource ranges: > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0xffffffff (0x80000000) MX[B]E > [1] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [2] -1 0x80020000 - 0x8003ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > [3] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > [4] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [5] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [6] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > [7] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [8] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [9] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > [10] -1 0x00009000 - 0x000090ff (0x100) IX[B]E > (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0x80000000 from 0xffffffff to > 0x8001ffff > (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0x80020000 from 0x8003ffff to > 0x80020fff > (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00009000 from 0x000090ff to > 0x0000907f > (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > [1] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [2] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [3] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > [4] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [5] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [6] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > [7] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [8] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [9] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > [10] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > (II) All system resource ranges: > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > [4] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [5] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > [7] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > [11] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [12] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [13] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:0b:0 > (II) ATI: Unshared Mach64 at PIO base 0x01CC not probed. > (II) ATI: Unshared Mach64 at PIO base 0x01C8 not probed. > (II) ATI: Shared non-ATI VGA in PCI/AGP slot 0:11:0 detected. > (II) MGA: driver for Matrox chipsets: mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, > mga2164w AGP, mgag100, mgag100 PCI, mgag200, mgag200 PCI, > mgag400, > mgag550 > (II) VGA: Generic VGA driver (version 4.0) for chipsets: generic > (++) Using config file: "/root/XF86Config.new" > (==) ServerLayout "XFree86 Configured" > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) > (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" > (**) | |-->Device "Card0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" > (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled > (**) FontPath set to > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X1 > 1R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/ > X11/fonts/100dpi/" > (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > (--) Chipset mga2064w found > (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > [4] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [5] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > [7] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > [11] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [12] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [13] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > (II) resource ranges after probing: > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > [4] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [5] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > [7] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > [10] 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] > [11] 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] > [12] 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] > [13] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > [14] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [15] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [16] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [17] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > [18] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > [19] 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] > [20] 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] > (II) Setting vga for screen 0. > (II) Loading sub module "vbe" > (II) LoadModule: "vbe" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) Loading sub module "int10" > (II) LoadModule: "int10" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > Not loading .debug_line > (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > (II) MGA(0): initializing int10 > (II) Machine type has 8/16 bit access > (II) MGA(0): No legacy BIOS found -- trying PCI > (II) Truncating PCI BIOS Length to 32768 > Symbol vgaHWEnable from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o > is unresolved! > Symbol vgaHWEnable from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o > is unresolved! > Symbol fbdevHWGetLineLength from module > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved! > Symbol fbdevHWGetLineLength from module > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved! > Symbol xf86I2CReadBytes from module > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/siliconmotion_drv.o is unresolved! > Symbol xf86I2CReadBytes from module > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/siliconmotion_drv.o is unresolved! > Symbol xf86InterpretEDID from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a is > unresolved! > Symbol xf86InterpretEDID from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a is > unresolved! > > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 11. Server aborting > > > When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send > the full server output, not just the last messages. > This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". > Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org. > > zombie# > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 6: 6:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA3037B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (207-173-241-209.bras01.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [207.173.241.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173D143E91 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:06:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from bigdaddy (bigdaddy [192.168.1.3]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DDFE8EE571; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:06:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000b01c29230$5a334470$0301a8c0@bigdaddy> From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: "Schroeder, Aaron" , References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3217@waexch1.qgraph.com> Subject: Re: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:06:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: "'Drew Tomlinson'" ; Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:54 AM Subject: RE: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core > Sounds like a problem I was having with my Miata when the new XFree86 came > out. All I did to get things to work was to move the Matrox from the 64-bit > slot to one of the 32 bit PCI slots. > > Of course, I am assuming that you have your Matrox plugged into one of the > 64 bit slots. :) Thanks for the help. I'm real new to the Alpha and haven't found much in the way of documentation on the web. I can tell from the console 'show config' command that my graphics card is in slot 4. Do you have any idea if this is a 32 or 64 bit slot? If I physically open the box, can I tell the difference by looking? How? I assume the 64 bit slots would be longer as they'd have more pins? Thanks, Drew > HTH, > > AJ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Tomlinson [mailto:drew@mykitchentable.net] > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 7:43 AM > To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Fw: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core > > > I posted the following to -questions a few days ago but have not received > any response. I'm hoping someone here will have some suggestions as I've > turned up nothing on the web other than early Miatas have buggy chipsets and > are picky about graphics cards. I guess I have a Miata (DEC Personal > Workstation 500a) although I have no idea if it's considered "early"? > > Any nudges to Alpha specific docs are welcome. I've run FBSD on the i386 > for the past year or so without to much difficulty. However, I'm quickly > finding that stuff that "just works" on the i386 doesn't work on the Alpha. > Any tips for a new Alpha user? > > Thanks, > > Drew > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Drew Tomlinson" > To: "FreeBSD Questions" > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:30 AM > > > I have built XFree86-4 from a freshly updated ports tree on an Digital > > Personal Workstation 500au (Alpha). However when attempting to start > > the X server, it dumps core. I have tried 'XFree86 -configure'. When > > that didn't work, I used the 'xf86config' program to create a config > > file choosing card 284 (Matrox Millennium 4MB) from the card database. > > Now, when running 'startx', the system reboots. I have searched Google > > but could not find any entries that relate to my problem. Any ideas on > > how I can get this working? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Drew > > > > Here's the contents of the log file: > > > > zombie# cat XFree86.0.log > > > > XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System > > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) > > Release Date: 3 September 2002 > > If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is > > newer than the above date, look for a newer version before > > reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) > > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p1 alpha [ELF] > > Module Loader present > > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > > (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Nov 20 07:16:39 2002 > > (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 16777218.0) > > (--) using VT number 9 > > > > (II) Module ABI versions: > > XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 > > XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5 > > XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3 > > XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 > > XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3 > > (II) Loader running on freebsd > > (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer > > ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3 > > (II) Loading font Bitmap > > (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 0.1.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) > > (II) PCI: 00:03:0: chip 1011,0019 card 0000,0000 rev 30 class 02,00,00 > > hdr 00 > > (II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1095,0646 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 > > hdr 00 > > (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,0484 card 0000,0000 rev 43 class 00,00,00 > > hdr 00 > > (II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 102b,0519 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 03,00,00 > > hdr 00 > > (II) PCI: 00:14:0: chip 1011,0021 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 > > hdr 01 > > (II) PCI: 01:09:0: chip 1077,1020 card 0000,0000 rev 05 class 01,00,00 > > hdr 00 > > (II) PCI: 01:0a:0: chip 1011,000f card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 02,02,00 > > hdr 00 > > (II) PCI: End of PCI scan > > (II) LoadModule: "scanpci" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 0.1.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) UnloadModule: "scanpci" > > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a > > (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: > > (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: > > (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: > > (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) > > (II) Bus -1 I/O range: > > (II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range: > > (II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range: > > (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:20:0), (0,1,0), BCTRL: 0x20 (VGA_EN is > > cleared) > > (II) Bus 1 I/O range: > > [0] -1 0x00008000 - 0x00008fff (0x1000) IX[B] > > (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: > > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0x800fffff (0x100000) MX[B] > > (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: > > (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x00 (VGA_EN is > > cleared) > > (II) Bus 0 I/O range: > > [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) IX[B] > > (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: > > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0xffffffff (0x80000000) MX[B] > > (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: > > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0xffffffff (0x80000000) MX[B] > > (--) PCI:*(0:11:0) Matrox MGA 2064W rev 1, Mem @ 0x80150000/14, > > 0x90000000/23, BIOS @ 0x80140000/16 > > List of video drivers: > > atimisc > > r128 > > radeon > > ati > > glint > > mga > > nv > > rendition > > s3 > > s3virge > > savage > > siliconmotion > > tdfx > > tga > > vga > > (II) LoadModule: "atimisc" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module atimisc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 6.4.8 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "r128" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module r128: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.1 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "radeon" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module radeon: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.1 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "ati" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module ati: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 6.4.8 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "glint" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module glint: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "mga" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module mga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.1.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "nv" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nv_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module nv: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.1 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "rendition" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/rendition_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module rendition: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "s3" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/s3_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module s3: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 0.3.5 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "s3virge" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/s3virge_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module s3virge: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.8.3 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "savage" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/savage_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module savage: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.1.20 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "siliconmotion" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/siliconmotion_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module siliconmotion: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.3.1 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "tdfx" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module tdfx: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "tga" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tga_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module tga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) LoadModule: "vga" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vga_drv.o > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module vga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 4.0.0 > > Module class: XFree86 Video Driver > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are > > [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) IX[B] > > (II) OS-reported resource ranges: > > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > > [3] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > > [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > > (II) Active PCI resource ranges: > > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0xffffffff (0x80000000) MX[B]E > > [1] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > > [2] -1 0x80020000 - 0x8003ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > > [3] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > > [4] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > > [5] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > > [6] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > > [7] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [8] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [9] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > > [10] -1 0x00009000 - 0x000090ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0x80000000 from 0xffffffff to > > 0x8001ffff > > (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0x80020000 from 0x8003ffff to > > 0x80020fff > > (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00009000 from 0x000090ff to > > 0x0000907f > > (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: > > [0] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > > [1] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > > [2] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > > [3] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > > [4] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > > [5] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > > [6] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > > [7] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [8] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [9] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > > [10] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > > (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: > > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > > [3] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > > [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > > (II) All system resource ranges: > > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > > [3] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > > [4] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > > [5] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > > [6] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > > [7] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > > [8] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > > [9] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > > [10] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > > [11] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > > [12] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [13] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [14] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > > [15] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:0b:0 > > (II) ATI: Unshared Mach64 at PIO base 0x01CC not probed. > > (II) ATI: Unshared Mach64 at PIO base 0x01C8 not probed. > > (II) ATI: Shared non-ATI VGA in PCI/AGP slot 0:11:0 detected. > > (II) MGA: driver for Matrox chipsets: mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, > > mga2164w AGP, mgag100, mgag100 PCI, mgag200, mgag200 PCI, > > mgag400, > > mgag550 > > (II) VGA: Generic VGA driver (version 4.0) for chipsets: generic > > (++) Using config file: "/root/XF86Config.new" > > (==) ServerLayout "XFree86 Configured" > > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) > > (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" > > (**) | |-->Device "Card0" > > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" > > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" > > (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled > > (**) FontPath set to > > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X1 > > 1R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/ > > X11/fonts/100dpi/" > > (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > > (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > > (--) Chipset mga2064w found > > (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: > > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > > [3] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > > [4] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > > [5] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > > [6] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > > [7] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > > [8] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > > [9] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > > [10] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > > [11] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > > [12] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [13] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [14] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > > [15] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > > (II) resource ranges after probing: > > [0] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > > [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] > > [2] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > > [3] -1 0x80000000 - 0x8001ffff (0x20000) MX[B]E > > [4] -1 0x80021000 - 0x80021fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > > [5] -1 0x80020000 - 0x80020fff (0x1000) MX[B]E > > [6] -1 0x80154000 - 0x80157fff (0x4000) MX[B]E > > [7] -1 0x80140000 - 0x8014ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > > [8] -1 0x90000000 - 0x907fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > > [9] -1 0x80150000 - 0x80153fff (0x4000) MX[B](B) > > [10] 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] > > [11] 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] > > [12] 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] > > [13] -1 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) IX[B] > > [14] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > > [15] -1 0x00008100 - 0x000081ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [16] -1 0x00008000 - 0x000080ff (0x100) IX[B]E > > [17] -1 0x00009080 - 0x000090ff (0x80) IX[B]E > > [18] -1 0x00009000 - 0x0000907f (0x80) IX[B]E > > [19] 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] > > [20] 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] > > (II) Setting vga for screen 0. > > (II) Loading sub module "vbe" > > (II) LoadModule: "vbe" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) Loading sub module "int10" > > (II) LoadModule: "int10" > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > Not loading .debug_line > > (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > > compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 > > (II) MGA(0): initializing int10 > > (II) Machine type has 8/16 bit access > > (II) MGA(0): No legacy BIOS found -- trying PCI > > (II) Truncating PCI BIOS Length to 32768 > > Symbol vgaHWEnable from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o > > is unresolved! > > Symbol vgaHWEnable from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o > > is unresolved! > > Symbol fbdevHWGetLineLength from module > > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved! > > Symbol fbdevHWGetLineLength from module > > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o is unresolved! > > Symbol xf86I2CReadBytes from module > > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/siliconmotion_drv.o is unresolved! > > Symbol xf86I2CReadBytes from module > > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/siliconmotion_drv.o is unresolved! > > Symbol xf86InterpretEDID from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a is > > unresolved! > > Symbol xf86InterpretEDID from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a is > > unresolved! > > > > Fatal server error: > > Caught signal 11. Server aborting > > > > > > When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send > > the full server output, not just the last messages. > > This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". > > Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org. > > > > zombie# > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 6:16:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9DE37B404 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D58743EAA for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:16:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29046; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gAMEG8n67942; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:16:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15838.15400.402699.945697@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:16:08 -0500 (EST) To: "Drew Tomlinson" Cc: "Schroeder, Aaron" , Subject: Re: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core In-Reply-To: <000b01c29230$5a334470$0301a8c0@bigdaddy> References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3217@waexch1.qgraph.com> <000b01c29230$5a334470$0301a8c0@bigdaddy> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Drew Tomlinson writes: > Thanks for the help. I'm real new to the Alpha and haven't found much in > the way of documentation on the web. I can tell from the console 'show > config' command that my graphics card is in slot 4. Do you have any idea if > this is a 32 or 64 bit slot? If I physically open the box, can I tell the > difference by looking? How? I assume the 64 bit slots would be longer as > they'd have more pins? Yes. You can also tell via 'pciconf -lv' from FreeBSD, or 'show conf' at the SRM prompt. The 64-bit slots are directly on the main pci bus; the 32-bit slots are behind a dec pci-pci bridge. If your video board is in a 64-bit slot, it should appear on bus 0. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 6:40:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA09337B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from dns-01.wist.net.pl (dns-01.wist.net.pl [213.25.188.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB11E43E88 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:40:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjarczyk@wist.net.pl) Received: from TSP (tsp.wist.net.pl [213.25.188.5]) by dns-01.wist.net.pl (8.12.4/8.11.0) with SMTP id gAMEeNLZ021359 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:40:24 +0100 Message-ID: <0db701c29235$1c41c6f0$05bc19d5@TSP> From: "Sergiusz Jarczyk" To: Subject: Stupid mistake (AS2100A) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:40:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS - amavis-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear All Today I've upgraded the CPU Modules firmware from 4/xxx to 5/xxx. It was very stupid move, since I have an AS 2100A 4/275 system ;-) I was in hurry and didn't read the instructions carefully. Now, when I'm powering up the system, all messages on the OCP stop with: "FAIL I/O_00 0004". I've tried to run into FSL (by enabling FSL switch) and powering the machine with the HALT button in, but with no results. Now, my question is - what else can I do BEFORE I turn to the Compaq support? My system is AS 2100A RM, with four EV4 processors and one 512MB memory board. TIA, Sergiusz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 7:38:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEDF37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from qescan3.qgraph.com (QESCAN3.qgraph.com [206.158.124.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511B643E4A for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:38:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com) Received: by sxsmtp1.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:39:02 -0600 Message-ID: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3222@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: 'Sergiusz Jarczyk' , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Stupid mistake (AS2100A) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:37:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I had this happen to me once, I had an EV5 2100 that someone ripped the CPU's out of, and all I had was EV4's. What I had to do was to set a jumper on the main control board (the scsi, network combo board) IIRC, it's JP4 that you have to set, that enables some sort of "recovery" mode which will allow you re-run the LFU. This worked for me, but I make no guarantees. HTH, AJ -----Original Message----- From: Sergiusz Jarczyk [mailto:sjarczyk@wist.net.pl] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:41 AM To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Stupid mistake (AS2100A) Dear All Today I've upgraded the CPU Modules firmware from 4/xxx to 5/xxx. It was very stupid move, since I have an AS 2100A 4/275 system ;-) I was in hurry and didn't read the instructions carefully. Now, when I'm powering up the system, all messages on the OCP stop with: "FAIL I/O_00 0004". I've tried to run into FSL (by enabling FSL switch) and powering the machine with the HALT button in, but with no results. Now, my question is - what else can I do BEFORE I turn to the Compaq support? My system is AS 2100A RM, with four EV4 processors and one 512MB memory board. TIA, Sergiusz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 7:44: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49EF37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dns-01.wist.net.pl (mail-01.wist.net.pl [213.25.188.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E7343EA3 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:44:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjarczyk@wist.net.pl) Received: from TSP (tsp.wist.net.pl [213.25.188.5]) by dns-01.wist.net.pl (8.12.4/8.11.0) with SMTP id gAMFhhLZ021590 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:43:45 +0100 Message-ID: <004001c2923d$f64e4460$05bc19d5@TSP> From: "Sergiusz Jarczyk" To: References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3222@waexch1.qgraph.com> Subject: Re: Stupid mistake (AS2100A) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:43:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS - amavis-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Aaron > Well, I had this happen to me once, I had an EV5 2100 that someone ripped > the CPU's out of, and all I had was EV4's. What I had to do was to set a > jumper on the main control board (the scsi, network combo board) IIRC, it's > JP4 that you have to set, that enables some sort of "recovery" mode which > will allow you re-run the LFU. This worked for me, but I make no guarantees. > Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, this is 2100A RM machine, which doesn't have separated I/O board - it's integrated with the EISA/PCI backplane. Indeed, there is a switch called FSL Enable, but when I start the system with this switch set, there is no difference. Do you remember if you'd be able to work in FSL on the graphical console, or you had to attach a terminal? Best regards, Sergiusz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 8:30: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD2C37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from qescan3.qgraph.com (QESCAN3.qgraph.com [206.158.124.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A688443E6E for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:29:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com) Received: by sxsmtp3.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:29:39 -0600 Message-ID: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3228@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: 'Sergiusz Jarczyk' , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Stupid mistake (AS2100A) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:29:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was able to work the FSL in a graphics window, although you might want to try it with a serial console. Does this machine have multiple CPU's? IIRC, I had took all the CPU's out except one and tried it from there. I am looking for some docs that I had on this issue. We still have our Compaq Alpha CD's laying around and I am sifting through docs to find where I found the recovery procedures. AJ -----Original Message----- From: Sergiusz Jarczyk [mailto:sjarczyk@wist.net.pl] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:44 AM To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid mistake (AS2100A) Aaron > Well, I had this happen to me once, I had an EV5 2100 that someone ripped > the CPU's out of, and all I had was EV4's. What I had to do was to set a > jumper on the main control board (the scsi, network combo board) IIRC, it's > JP4 that you have to set, that enables some sort of "recovery" mode which > will allow you re-run the LFU. This worked for me, but I make no guarantees. > Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, this is 2100A RM machine, which doesn't have separated I/O board - it's integrated with the EISA/PCI backplane. Indeed, there is a switch called FSL Enable, but when I start the system with this switch set, there is no difference. Do you remember if you'd be able to work in FSL on the graphical console, or you had to attach a terminal? Best regards, Sergiusz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 8:39:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E35537B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net [198.65.168.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77B043E9C for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:39:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fclift@verio.net) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBA93BF23D for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:39:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net (vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.59]) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAMGd9344945; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:39:09 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:40:53 -0700 (MST) From: Fred Clift X-X-Sender: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Drew Tomlinson , "Schroeder, Aaron" , Subject: Re: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core In-Reply-To: <15838.15400.402699.945697@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20021122093112.E3339-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > The 64-bit slots are directly on the main pci bus; the 32-bit slots > are behind a dec pci-pci bridge. If your video board is in a 64-bit > slot, it should appear on bus 0. And aren't 64 bit slots physically longer than the others? In my miata, if it is laying on it's side, the rear of the box is towards me, the 64 bit slot is on the far left. (are there two? I forget) As for your questions of X server, I have a few suggestions. 1) unless you really need some feature of Xv4, I'd run a v3 server - they 'just work' with my matrox cards. When I was playing with v4 servers I had to revert to 4.1.0 to get anything to work, and even then, I had to play around with X -configure a bunch inbetween machine-checks - I got enough of a config file that I could hand-edit it into working. Specifically, I had to disable the 'record' 'xtrap' 'dri' and 'pex5' modules in my config file, and I had to compile the server with the 'stubbed-out' version of the int10 stuff -- there is some #define somewhere that lets you swap no-op code in for the normal int10 module. Once I had done all these things, I had a running server. Big pain in the butt, and I _still_ got an occaional machine-check that I never had the patience to track down... Perhaps it's just the matrox driver that has problems. I remember seeing someone with an elsa gloria card that X worked just fine for... I'm sure there are others. I have a millenium II card... As for alpha being a bit less user-friendly, well yes that is true. I think it's mostly that there are less of us using alpha boxes, so many little annoying things take a long time to get resolved. Hang in there - you'll have fun :). And keep the questions comming if you have them - dont be shy. Fred -- Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 8:40:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D7537B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from dns-01.wist.net.pl (dns-01.wist.net.pl [213.25.188.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F6243E88 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:40:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjarczyk@wist.net.pl) Received: from TSP (tsp.wist.net.pl [213.25.188.5]) by dns-01.wist.net.pl (8.12.4/8.11.0) with SMTP id gAMGe7LZ021739 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:40:10 +0100 Message-ID: <005c01c29245$d77960d0$05bc19d5@TSP> From: "Sergiusz Jarczyk" To: References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3228@waexch1.qgraph.com> Subject: Re: Stupid mistake (AS2100A) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:40:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS - amavis-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Aaron [...] > I was able to work the FSL in a graphics window, although you might want to > try it with a serial console. Does this machine have multiple CPU's? IIRC, I > had took all the CPU's out except one and tried it from there. > Yes, I have multiple CPUs and I've tried with only one - no results. During this upgrade process, I didn't invoke the 'update_fsl' command, so FSL should stay unchanged. I don't have any other concepts... Best regards, Sergiusz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 9:10:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6049737B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:10:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B75243E6E for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:10:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.lan.honeypot.net (mail@pooh.lan.honeypot.net [10.0.1.2]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAMHAnZk052145 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:10:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kirk by pooh.lan.honeypot.net with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18FHKL-0004Sk-00 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:10:49 -0600 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: ATA on a Cabriolet? From: Kirk Strauser Date: 22 Nov 2002 11:10:49 -0600 Message-ID: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was recently given a PC64 system (consisting only of the motherboard, CPU, and cache SIMMs). I have it running FreeBSD 4.7 now (which required installing 4.6.2 and upgrading, since the 4.7 install floppies crashed while loading the loader), and it's doing very well. For some reason, though, the system can't seem to detect the onboard ATA. I am *very* new to working with Alphas - this is the first one I've ever actually seen in person - so I'm not sure how to proceed. Does SRM have to detect the device before FreeBSD can see it? If so, how can I check that it's finding the ATA correctly? By the way, I updated the firmware from ARC to SRM v4.8.1, which was the most recent version I could find. Is this current? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 9:49:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D40A37B433 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (207-173-241-209.bras01.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [207.173.241.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A02B43E3B for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:49:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from tagalong (unknown [165.107.42.110]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 85336EE571; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:19:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <003901c2924b$50fee600$6e2a6ba5@tagalong> From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: "Andrew Gallatin" Cc: "Schroeder, Aaron" , References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E3217@waexch1.qgraph.com><000b01c29230$5a334470$0301a8c0@bigdaddy> <15838.15400.402699.945697@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Subject: Re: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:18:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Gallatin" To: "Drew Tomlinson" Cc: "Schroeder, Aaron" ; Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 6:16 AM Subject: Re: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core > > Drew Tomlinson writes: > > Thanks for the help. I'm real new to the Alpha and haven't found much in > > the way of documentation on the web. I can tell from the console 'show > > config' command that my graphics card is in slot 4. Do you have any idea if > > this is a 32 or 64 bit slot? If I physically open the box, can I tell the > > difference by looking? How? I assume the 64 bit slots would be longer as > > they'd have more pins? > > > Yes. You can also tell via 'pciconf -lv' from FreeBSD, or 'show > conf' at the SRM prompt. > > The 64-bit slots are directly on the main pci bus; the 32-bit slots > are behind a dec pci-pci bridge. If your video board is in a 64-bit > slot, it should appear on bus 0. Thanks for the tips. I ran the commands and sure enough, the card was on pci0. I opened the box and moved the card to one of the shorter PCI slots, assuming it was a 32 bit one. When I rebooted the machine, the card now shows up on pci1. 'XFree86 -configure' still dumps core. I noticed errors in the logs regarding SYSV stuff that wasn't available so I adding it to my kernel and rebuilding. I also ran xf86config and generated a basic config file using card 284 (2064 driver) and appropriate entries for my monitor. 'startx' brings up X windows with twm but the picture quality is really bad. It's bad at all resolutions and color depths. Are there any specific settings in the X config file that I should look for? Thanks, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 9:49:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BDE37B40C for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (207-173-241-209.bras01.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [207.173.241.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D37643E6E for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:49:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from tagalong (unknown [165.107.42.110]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 03A0AEE626; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:28:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <003d01c2924c$9ddcfab0$6e2a6ba5@tagalong> From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: "Fred Clift" , "Andrew Gallatin" Cc: "Schroeder, Aaron" , References: <20021122093112.E3339-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> Subject: Re: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:28:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Clift" To: "Andrew Gallatin" Cc: "Drew Tomlinson" ; "Schroeder, Aaron" ; Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:40 AM Subject: Re: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > The 64-bit slots are directly on the main pci bus; the 32-bit slots > > are behind a dec pci-pci bridge. If your video board is in a 64-bit > > slot, it should appear on bus 0. > > And aren't 64 bit slots physically longer than the others? In my miata, > if it is laying on it's side, the rear of the box is towards me, the 64 > bit slot is on the far left. (are there two? I forget) You are correct. They are on the left and there are two. This is what I saw when I opened my box. > As for your questions of X server, I have a few suggestions. 1) unless > you really need some feature of Xv4, I'd run a v3 server - they 'just > work' with my matrox cards. When I was playing with v4 servers I had to > revert to 4.1.0 to get anything to work, and even then, I had to play > around with X -configure a bunch inbetween machine-checks - I got enough > of a config file that I could hand-edit it into working. Specifically, I > had to disable the 'record' 'xtrap' 'dri' and 'pex5' modules in my config > file, and I had to compile the server with the 'stubbed-out' version of > the int10 stuff -- there is some #define somewhere that lets you swap > no-op code in for the normal int10 module. Thanks for the tip. If my latest kernel build and attempts to run XFree86-4 don't work, I'll try version 3. > Once I had done all these things, I had a running server. Big pain in the > butt, and I _still_ got an occaional machine-check that I never had the > patience to track down... Perhaps it's just the matrox driver that has > problems. I remember seeing someone with an elsa gloria card that X > worked just fine for... I'm sure there are others. I have a millenium II > card... I have the same card. > As for alpha being a bit less user-friendly, well yes that is true. I > think it's mostly that there are less of us using alpha boxes, so many > little annoying things take a long time to get resolved. Well that's all right. What do you expect for free? :) I'm not a programmer but I may be able to contribute with testing and writing some docs. > Hang in there - you'll have fun :). And keep the questions comming if you > have them - dont be shy. Thank you. Drew > Fred > > -- > Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute > force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 11:19:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0B037B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:19:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net [198.65.168.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35B643E9C for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:19:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fclift@verio.net) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E773BF116 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:19:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net (vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.59]) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAMJJh373726; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:19:43 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:21:28 -0700 (MST) From: Fred Clift X-X-Sender: To: Drew Tomlinson Cc: Andrew Gallatin , "Schroeder, Aaron" , Subject: Re: XFree86-4 Built From Ports Dumps Core In-Reply-To: <003901c2924b$50fee600$6e2a6ba5@tagalong> Message-ID: <20021122121938.E3589-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > 'startx' brings up X windows with twm but the picture quality is really > bad. It's bad at all resolutions and color depths. Are there any > specific settings in the X config file that I should look for? I just put my v4 config from my alpha box with a millenium II card at ftp://ftp.clift.org/XF86Config.4.mII if you want to take a look at it.... Fred -- Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 11:30:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A0D37B404 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:30:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBB743E3B for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:30:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAMJU6Bt017541; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:30:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAMJU6TX017536; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:30:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:30:06 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Kirk Strauser Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATA on a Cabriolet? Message-ID: <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net>; from kirk@strauser.com on Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 11:10:49AM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 11:10:49AM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > I was recently given a PC64 system (consisting only of the motherboard, CPU, > and cache SIMMs). I have it running FreeBSD 4.7 now (which required > installing 4.6.2 and upgrading, since the 4.7 install floppies crashed while > loading the loader), and it's doing very well. For some reason, though, the > system can't seem to detect the onboard ATA. I am *very* new to working > with Alphas - this is the first one I've ever actually seen in person - so > I'm not sure how to proceed. Does SRM have to detect the device before > FreeBSD can see it? If so, how can I check that it's finding the ATA > correctly? My guess is you need to build a kernel with something like: device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 Guess, I cannot try this anymore as I don't have a PC64 anymore. Can you experiment a bit with this and let me/the list know? If you can get something working I will update the Alphas-specific docs. W/ -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 11:30:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012F837B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:30:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [193.197.184.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E9143E3B for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:30:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with gbsmtp id 18FJVe-0006Lw-00; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:30:38 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAMIswSZ002439 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:54:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAMIsw3T002438 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:54:58 +0100 (CET) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: PC133 memory in an 164SX? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking into expanding the memory in an AlphaPC164SX. (Truth be told it doesn't run FreeBSD.) As it tends to be with technology disappearing from the marketplace, PC100 memory is now more expensive than PC133. Are there any practical or theoretical objections to using PC133 memory in a 164SX? I'm under the impression that the only difference between PC100 and PC133 are timing parameters, where PC133 is faster, so this shouldn't be a problem, but maybe there are hidden issues such as power consumption or I'm missing something altogether. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 11:34: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C3A37B406 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:34:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B80E43EA9 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:34:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAMJXvBt017590; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:33:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAMJXvsN017589; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:33:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:33:57 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC133 memory in an 164SX? Message-ID: <20021122203357.C17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from naddy@mips.inka.de on Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 06:54:58PM +0000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 06:54:58PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > I'm looking into expanding the memory in an AlphaPC164SX. (Truth > be told it doesn't run FreeBSD.) As it tends to be with technology > disappearing from the marketplace, PC100 memory is now more expensive > than PC133. Are there any practical or theoretical objections to > using PC133 memory in a 164SX? > > I'm under the impression that the only difference between PC100 and > PC133 are timing parameters, where PC133 is faster, so this shouldn't > be a problem, but maybe there are hidden issues such as power Assuming a clean hardware design faster parts 'should just work'. I did have other experiences in the past, but not to the extent that things got damaged. I would just try if I were you. I'd appreciate a status update whether it works or not, I guess it would be interesting to get experiences like this into the Alpha-hardware docs for FreeBSD. > consumption or I'm missing something altogether. Not that I know. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 11:59:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A40337B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7FB43E9C for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:59:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.lan.honeypot.net (mail@pooh.lan.honeypot.net [10.0.1.2]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAMJxZZk055888 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:59:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kirk by pooh.lan.honeypot.net with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18FJxf-0004eC-00 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:59:35 -0600 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA on a Cabriolet? References: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> From: Kirk Strauser Date: 22 Nov 2002 13:59:35 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <87k7j51il4.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2002-11-22T19:30:06Z, Wilko Bulte writes: > My guess is you need to build a kernel with something like: > > device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 I'll let you know shortly. I'm discovering that raw kernel-compiling power isn't exactly this little machine's forte, although I did manage a full buildworld in just over 7 hours. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 12:26:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0CE37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DF443E9C for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:26:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAMKQSBt017829; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:26:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAMKQNQC017824; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:26:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:26:23 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Kirk Strauser Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATA on a Cabriolet? Message-ID: <20021122212623.A17809@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> <87k7j51il4.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <87k7j51il4.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net>; from kirk@strauser.com on Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 01:59:35PM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 01:59:35PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > > At 2002-11-22T19:30:06Z, Wilko Bulte writes: > > > My guess is you need to build a kernel with something like: > > > > device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 > > I'll let you know shortly. I'm discovering that raw kernel-compiling power > isn't exactly this little machine's forte, although I did manage a full > buildworld in just over 7 hours. Eh.. yes, they are not particularly fast. How much memory does it have? I consider 64MB as a minimum for being useful. Below 32M really makes it SLOOOW. :) -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 12:34:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EAE37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from tibor.org (117-5-237-24-cable.anchorageak.net [24.237.5.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A31143E9C for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tibor@tibor.org) Received: from xena.mikey.net (xena.mikey.net [192.168.1.2]) by tibor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FD0AEE8 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:34:04 -0900 (AKST) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:34:04 -0900 (AKST) From: Mike Tibor X-X-Sender: tibor@xena.mikey.net To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC133 memory in an 164SX? In-Reply-To: <20021122203357.C17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20021122113212.V35658-100000@xena.mikey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Assuming a clean hardware design faster parts 'should just work'. > I did have other experiences in the past, but not to the extent that > things got damaged. > > I would just try if I were you. I'd appreciate a status update > whether it works or not, I guess it would be interesting to get > experiences like this into the Alpha-hardware docs for FreeBSD. FWIW I had PC133 dimms in my 164LX, and it worked just fine. (although I realize he was asking about 164SX). Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 13:29:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9801637B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF4B43E88 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:29:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.lan.honeypot.net (mail@pooh.lan.honeypot.net [10.0.1.2]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAMLT1Zk057589 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:29:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kirk by pooh.lan.honeypot.net with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18FLMD-0004fe-00 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:29:01 -0600 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA on a Cabriolet? References: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> <87k7j51il4.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122212623.A17809@freebie.xs4all.nl> From: Kirk Strauser Date: 22 Nov 2002 15:29:00 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20021122212623.A17809@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <87adk11eg3.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2002-11-22T20:26:23Z, Wilko Bulte writes: > Eh.. yes, they are not particularly fast. How much memory does it have? I > consider 64MB as a minimum for being useful. Below 32M really makes it > SLOOOW. :) I was incredibly lucky. I found a matched set of 8 true parity 32MB SIMMs on eBay for $59.00. ARC's memtest function passed them with flying colors, so the system has never touched the 512MB of swap. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 13:33:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B0037B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D562C43E3B for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:33:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.lan.honeypot.net (mail@pooh.lan.honeypot.net [10.0.1.2]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAMLXaZk057710 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:33:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kirk by pooh.lan.honeypot.net with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18FLQe-0004g4-00 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:33:36 -0600 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA on a Cabriolet? References: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> From: Kirk Strauser Date: 22 Nov 2002 15:33:36 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <877kf51e8f.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> Lines: 51 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2002-11-22T19:30:06Z, Wilko Bulte writes: > My guess is you need to build a kernel with something like: > > device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 That did it! Out of curiosity, where did you get the port and irq values? Are those common for Alphas, or did I miss something that I should have read? > Can you experiment a bit with this and let me/the list know? If you can > get something working I will update the Alphas-specific docs. It seems to be completely working. I disklabeled, newfsed, and mounted an IDE drive with no logged errors. On a related note, while I didn't expect this implementation to be as fast as the ATA/100 channels on my i386 motherboard, I didn't really appreciate how glacially slow it would turn out to be: root@gopher:/root# bonnie++ -u 0:0 -d /usr/local2/ Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing with putc()...done Writing intelligently...done Rewriting...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done start 'em...done...done...done... Create files in sequential order...done. Stat files in sequential order...done. Delete files in sequential order...done. Create files in random order...done. Stat files in random order...done. Delete files in random order...done. Version 1.02c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP gopher.lan.hon 300M 1150 26 1365 11 654 2 1000 22 1268 2 163.3 5 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-------- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP 16 1387 53 6504 99 2862 99 2073 78 2760 45 2978 99 gopher.lan.honeypot.net,300M,1150,26,1365,11,654,2,1000,22,1268,2,163.3,5,16,1387,53,6504,99,2862,99,2073,78,2760,45,2978,99 I may end up getting some SCSI drives off eBay yet for the sheer sake of being able to outperform the DAT drive in my backup server. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 14:45:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638D937B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E1C43EAA for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:45:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAMMj9sP058627 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:45:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAMMj7Od035450 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:45:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAMMj6uC026399; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:45:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAMMj4YJ026398; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:45:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:45:03 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Kirk Strauser Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATA on a Cabriolet? Message-ID: <20021122224502.GH24783@cicely8.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> <877kf51e8f.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <877kf51e8f.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 03:33:36PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > > At 2002-11-22T19:30:06Z, Wilko Bulte writes: > > > My guess is you need to build a kernel with something like: > > > > device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 > > That did it! Out of curiosity, where did you get the port and irq values? > Are those common for Alphas, or did I miss something that I should have > read? The ISA components have same values as they have on x86 machines. > > Can you experiment a bit with this and let me/the list know? If you can > > get something working I will update the Alphas-specific docs. > > It seems to be completely working. I disklabeled, newfsed, and mounted an > IDE drive with no logged errors. On a related note, while I didn't expect > this implementation to be as fast as the ATA/100 channels on my i386 > motherboard, I didn't really appreciate how glacially slow it would turn out > to be: Well it's ISA after all. If you want it for everyday use I would suggest adding a PCI IDE card or using a SCSI drive. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 14:57:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FFB37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:57:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DE143E9C for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:57:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.lan.honeypot.net (mail@pooh.lan.honeypot.net [10.0.1.2]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAMMvGZk059427 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:57:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kirk by pooh.lan.honeypot.net with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18FMjc-0004hw-00 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:57:16 -0600 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA on a Cabriolet? References: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> <877kf51e8f.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122224502.GH24783@cicely8.cicely.de> From: Kirk Strauser Date: 22 Nov 2002 16:57:16 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20021122224502.GH24783@cicely8.cicely.de> Message-ID: <87wun5yzzn.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2002-11-22T22:45:03Z, Bernd Walter writes: > The ISA components have same values as they have on x86 machines. So they do! That never would have occured to me. > Well it's ISA after all. If you want it for everyday use I would suggest > adding a PCI IDE card or using a SCSI drive. Since I still have a free slot (I have a Tekram SCSI card, 2 Intel EE/PRO NICs, and an ISA video card), the IDE card may well be my cheapest option. Oh, but to live in a city with a computer store... :-) -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 22 15: 2:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3BD37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E9D43E4A for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:02:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29824; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:02:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gAMN1sN68351; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:01:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15838.46946.333532.796255@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:01:54 -0500 (EST) To: Kirk Strauser Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATA on a Cabriolet? In-Reply-To: <87wun5yzzn.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> References: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> <877kf51e8f.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122224502.GH24783@cicely8.cicely.de> <87wun5yzzn.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kirk Strauser writes: > Since I still have a free slot (I have a Tekram SCSI card, 2 Intel EE/PRO > NICs, and an ISA video card), the IDE card may well be my cheapest option. > Oh, but to live in a city with a computer store... :-) Bear in mind that a PCI IDE board will not be usable as a boot device. Since you apparently do not live near a PC store and returns are not an option, Do some web/news searches for things that work and things that don't work at all on alpha. The SRM sometimes maps the memory or io space so high that poorly designed boards can't cope with it. FWIW, I have a Promise ATA/33 board that works just fine in a Miata. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 23 1:27:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D175637B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 01:27:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5A443E3B for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 01:27:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAN9RaBt027097; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:27:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAN9RaWY027096; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:27:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:27:36 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Kirk Strauser Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATA on a Cabriolet? Message-ID: <20021123102735.C26973@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> <877kf51e8f.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122224502.GH24783@cicely8.cicely.de> <87wun5yzzn.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <87wun5yzzn.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net>; from kirk@strauser.com on Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 04:57:16PM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 04:57:16PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > > At 2002-11-22T22:45:03Z, Bernd Walter writes: > > > The ISA components have same values as they have on x86 machines. > > So they do! That never would have occured to me. > > > Well it's ISA after all. If you want it for everyday use I would suggest > > adding a PCI IDE card or using a SCSI drive. > > Since I still have a free slot (I have a Tekram SCSI card, 2 Intel EE/PRO > NICs, and an ISA video card), the IDE card may well be my cheapest option. But not the best, as it won't be bootable by SRM. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 23 4:52:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981D137B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 04:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from thea.blinkenlights.nl (thea.blinkenlights.nl [62.58.162.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B3443E3B for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 04:52:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id 6B56939305; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 13:51:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6310CD581; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 13:51:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 13:51:49 +0100 (CET) From: Sten To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PC133 memory in an 164SX? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > I'm looking into expanding the memory in an AlphaPC164SX. (Truth > be told it doesn't run FreeBSD.) As it tends to be with technology > disappearing from the marketplace, PC100 memory is now more expensive > than PC133. Are there any practical or theoretical objections to > using PC133 memory in a 164SX? > > I'm under the impression that the only difference between PC100 and > PC133 are timing parameters, where PC133 is faster, so this shouldn't > be a problem, but maybe there are hidden issues such as power > consumption or I'm missing something altogether. PC133 should work, I personaly have never seen breakages due to pc133 vs 100, only due to the quality of the memory ( the c't has quite a good article about this topic ). I myself have a 164SX with 4x 256mb of ecc memory colocated which works perfectly. -- Sten Spans "What does one do with ones money, when there is no more empty rackspace ?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 23 5: 4:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9AC37B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 05:04:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from popix.tele.net (popix.tele.net [194.183.128.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2DB43E88 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 05:04:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mhunker@cable.vol.at) Received: from 194-208.128.172.TELE.NET (194-208-128-172.TELE.NET [194.208.128.172]) by popix.tele.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAND4Vk57919 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 14:04:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mhunker@cable.vol.at) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 14:04:29 +0100 From: Martin Hunker To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Errors: 4.7 and QLogic SCSI on AlphaStation 500 Message-Id: <20021123140429.215fb01d.mhunker@cable.vol.at> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsd4.6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, well, I'm disapointed a bit of 4.7-RELEASE for Alpha. 4.6 was running excellent on my AS500/400, and now look at this! But maybe anybody can tell me if it's possible to solve that problem... Booting 4.7-RELEASE from CDROM or Floppy (for a clean, new install) ... ... Timecounter "alpha" frequency 399996144 Hz Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle de0: enabling 10baseT port isp0: bus reset destroyed command for 0.4.1 isp0: bus reset destroyed command for 0.14.0 isp0: bus reset destroyed command for 0.13.0 ... (last message with other 0.XX.0's) ... isp0: bus reset destroyed command for 0.1.0 isp0: timeout initiated SCSI bus reset of bus 0 isp0: Polled Mailbox Command (0x15) Timeout (probe14:isp0:0:15:0): isp0: Watchdog timeout for handle 0x4e Ok, that's it. HD/CDROM-LED is "ON", AlphaStation hangs. My hardware didn't change at all. Here pciconf of QLogic: isp0@pci0:9:0: class=0x010000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x10201077 \ rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Q Logic' device = 'ISP1020A Fast-Wide-SCSI "Fast!SCSI IQ" Host Adapter' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI Help! Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 23 6:33:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DD537B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 06:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp06.wxs.nl (smtp06.wxs.nl [195.121.6.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C0043E4A for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 06:33:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mbeis@wxs.nl) Received: from tsunami.bsd ([213.10.35.60]) by smtp06.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H619RT01.OQ5 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 15:33:29 +0100 Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 15:33:29 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: cdrom medium error Message-ID: FreeBSD: Homepage: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When I try to mount my cd-rom I get the following kernel messages: acd0: TEST_UNIT_READY - MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x57 ascq=0x00 error=0x00 It's a Toshiba XM-6102B ATAPI cd-rom on a Digital Personal Workstation 600au, running FreeBSD/Alpha 4.7-RELEASE. Does anyone know what the error means? Thanks, Marco -- The mosquito is the state bird of New Jersey. -- Andy Warhol To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 23 7:19:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1764937B411 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32F243E6E for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:19:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gANFJPsP080132 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:19:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gANFJOOd064599 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:19:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gANFJNuC028953; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:19:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gANFJNRt028952; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:19:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:19:23 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Marco Beishuizen Cc: FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: Re: cdrom medium error Message-ID: <20021123151922.GD27347@cicely8.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 03:33:29PM +0100, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > When I try to mount my cd-rom I get the following kernel messages: > > acd0: TEST_UNIT_READY - MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x57 ascq=0x00 error=0x00 > > It's a Toshiba XM-6102B ATAPI cd-rom on a Digital Personal Workstation > 600au, running FreeBSD/Alpha 4.7-RELEASE. > Does anyone know what the error means? Medium error - the device failed to initialize the media. Sound like either the drive or the media is defect. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 23 7:31: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307DA37B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5612C43E3B for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:31:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.lan.honeypot.net (mail@pooh.lan.honeypot.net [10.0.1.2]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gANFUoZk088060 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:30:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kirk by pooh.lan.honeypot.net with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18FcF6-0007Un-00 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:30:48 -0600 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA on a Cabriolet? References: <874ra934yu.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122203006.B17435@freebie.xs4all.nl> <877kf51e8f.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021122224502.GH24783@cicely8.cicely.de> <87wun5yzzn.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> <20021123102735.C26973@freebie.xs4all.nl> From: Kirk Strauser Date: 23 Nov 2002 09:30:48 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20021123102735.C26973@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <87ptswz4k7.fsf@pooh.lan.honeypot.net> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2002-11-23T09:27:36Z, Wilko Bulte writes: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 04:57:16PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: >> Since I still have a free slot (I have a Tekram SCSI card, 2 Intel EE/PRO >> NICs, and an ISA video card), the IDE card may well be my cheapest >> option. > But not the best, as it won't be bootable by SRM. I should clarify: cheapest option for additional storage beyond the SCSI boot drive. By the way, thanks to everyone for their help. My original goal of being able to use IDE hard disks (and presumably CD-ROMs) in my new Cabriolet system has been satisfactorily accomplished. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 23 7:52: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFB937B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:52:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A193C43E4A for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:52:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gANFpsBt028799; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:51:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gANFpsnd028798; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:51:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:51:54 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Martin Hunker Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Errors: 4.7 and QLogic SCSI on AlphaStation 500 Message-ID: <20021123165154.B28733@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20021123140429.215fb01d.mhunker@cable.vol.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20021123140429.215fb01d.mhunker@cable.vol.at>; from mhunker@cable.vol.at on Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 02:04:29PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 02:04:29PM +0100, Martin Hunker wrote: Are you sure your SCSI bus is in good shape? Termination, cable etc? A AS1000A at work with isp1020 works just fine. As do my AS500 and DS10, also equipped with isp cards (isp1040 in this case). Have you loaded ispfw(4) ? W/ > > well, I'm disapointed a bit of 4.7-RELEASE for Alpha. > 4.6 was running excellent on my AS500/400, and now look at this! > But maybe anybody can tell me if it's possible to solve > that problem... > > Booting 4.7-RELEASE from CDROM or Floppy (for a clean, new install) > > ... > ... > Timecounter "alpha" frequency 399996144 Hz > Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > de0: enabling 10baseT port > isp0: bus reset destroyed command for 0.4.1 > isp0: bus reset destroyed command for 0.14.0 > isp0: bus reset destroyed command for 0.13.0 > ... > (last message with other 0.XX.0's) > ... > isp0: bus reset destroyed command for 0.1.0 > isp0: timeout initiated SCSI bus reset of bus 0 > isp0: Polled Mailbox Command (0x15) Timeout > (probe14:isp0:0:15:0): isp0: Watchdog timeout for handle 0x4e > > > > Ok, that's it. HD/CDROM-LED is "ON", AlphaStation hangs. > My hardware didn't change at all. Here pciconf of QLogic: > > isp0@pci0:9:0: class=0x010000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x10201077 \ > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Q Logic' > device = 'ISP1020A Fast-Wide-SCSI "Fast!SCSI IQ" Host Adapter' > class = mass storage > subclass = SCSI > > > > Help! > > Martin > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 23 15:17:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6DD37B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 15:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from LTP.UPR.CLU.EDU (ltp.cnnet.clu.edu [136.145.85.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE52B43E88 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 15:17:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nieves@ltp.upr.clu.edu) Received: from ltp.upr.clu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by LTP.UPR.CLU.EDU (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gANNHELc048156 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:17:14 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from nieves@ltp.upr.clu.edu) Message-Id: <200211232317.gANNHELc048156@LTP.UPR.CLU.EDU> To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: timed Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:17:14 -0400 From: "Jose F. Nieves" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All Does anyone know whether it is possible to run ``timed'' in an alpha? When I tried in a PW600 it gives a bunch of missalign errors and then the date is reset to Jan 1970. Jose F Nieves To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message