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I know a few people seemed interested in small sysem before, so.....
VIA has introduced a new 7"x7" motherboard/cpu called the EPIA/Eden
You can see it here:  http://www.via.com.tw/en/Products/eden_images.jsp
 
These are retailing for ~$100 including board and cpu. The nice thing is that they run without a fan, and at around 500-600 Mhz, while consumer only ~50 watts or so.  
I'm looking to experiment with Free and use one of these with a 120GB drive as a closet all-in-one file server.
 
Hope someone finds this interesting.  I probably should not send this as it is off topic.  
Feel free to vent if it really annoys you though :)
 
 
 
 
 



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<P>I know a few people seemed interested in small sysem before, so.....
<P>VIA has introduced a new 7"x7" motherboard/cpu called the EPIA/Eden
<P>You can see it here:&nbsp; <A href="http://www.via.com.tw/en/Products/eden_images.jsp">http://www.via.com.tw/en/Products/eden_images.jsp</A>
<P>&nbsp;
<P>These are retailing for ~$100 including board and cpu. The nice thing is that they run without a fan, and at around 500-600 Mhz, while consumer only ~50 watts or so.&nbsp; 
<P>I'm looking to experiment with Free and use one of these with a 120GB drive as a closet all-in-one file server.
<P>&nbsp;
<P>Hope someone finds this interesting.&nbsp; I probably should not send this as it is off topic.&nbsp; <BR>Feel free to vent if it really annoys you though :)
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You should probably also look into the Freetech P6F139:
14cm x 20cm  (5.5" x 8"), FCPGA, Firewire, PCI Slot, LAN, etc, etc...
http://www.freetech.com/
I don't think it's as cheap as that though.
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  I know a few people seemed interested in small sysem before, so.....=20

  VIA has introduced a new 7"x7" motherboard/cpu called the EPIA/Eden=20

  You can see it here:  =
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  These are retailing for ~$100 including board and cpu. The nice thing =
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  I'm looking to experiment with Free and use one of these with a 120GB =
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  Hope someone finds this interesting.  I probably should not send this =
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            Shantanu Mahajan <shantanoo@ieee.org> writes:
: 	I am new user to FreeBSD. I would like to know from where do I get the
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: ColdFire Processor. Currently we are considering uCLinux
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Not really.  The ColdFire Processor doesn't have an MMU, IIRC.
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote:

> Not really.  The ColdFire Processor doesn't have an MMU, IIRC.
> FreeBSD has no support for moto CPUs, apart from some initial good
> efforts at a power pc port.  Netbsd might support this, but if it is
> the chip I think it is, NetBSD won't support it either.

One of the Brisbane companies were running OpenBSD by linking everything
into the one image or something along those lines. I think they talked
about it at an AUUG QLD summer conference one year.

Andrew


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