From owner-freebsd-ia32@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 11 00:31:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D7D16A4D0 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:31:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from endersgame.net (philote.endersgame.net [64.34.168.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A8BA43D8B for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 00:31:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dive@endersgame.net) Received: (qmail 28120 invoked by uid 1002); 11 May 2005 00:31:46 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:31:46 -0400 From: Sean Davis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050511003146.GA28025@endersgame.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: FreeBSD/i386 lockups with Xorg & Radeon cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD on the IA-32 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:31:48 -0000 Hello, first let me enumerate the hardware I've seen this happen on: 1) Athlon XP 2700+ 1GB DDR333 ATI Radeon 9200 AGP8X w/ 128MB 2) Athlon XP 2200+ 1GB DDR333 ATI Radeon 7000 AGP4X w/ 32MB ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB 3) Athlon XP 2200+ 1GB DDR333 NVidia GeForce4 AGP8X (I think) w/ 32MB ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB RAM On machine #2 (which is also machine #3), I'm trying to do a dual-head setup. Currently the primary video card is an AGP Geforce4. But that doesn't seem to matter. On all of these setups (9200, 7000, 7500) xorgcfg hardlocks the machine. No matter what I do. Xorg works just fine in Linux on the same hardware. (but no dual-head, despite config hacking, however that is a discussion for elsewhere) XFree86 4.5.0 under NetBSD works just fine with every Radeon on this list. Hence, I'm left to conclude that it's a combination of Xorg and FreeBSD - Windows works, NetBSD works, Linux works. I've tried both 5.3-RELEASE and 5.4-RELEASE, both of them die just as well. I *REALLY* want to get rid of windows on machine #2/#3, but it's simply not an option without a usable dual-headed desktop setup, as that is my work machine. However, if I can't even get xorgcfg to run without the machine needing a three finger salute, it's simply out of the question. I can't run NetBSD or OpenBSD on it, because I need something that I can deploy quickly, with up-to-date binary packages, something that neither NetBSD nor OpenBSD provide. Does anyone have any insights to this problem? Please respond directly, I am not subscribed to either freebsd-ia32 or freebsd-questions. TIA, -Sean From owner-freebsd-ia32@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 11 03:07:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37A816A4CE; Wed, 11 May 2005 03:07:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C41E43D73; Wed, 11 May 2005 03:07:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (cpe-065-184-196-020.ec.res.rr.com [65.184.196.20])j4B37M0V001611; Tue, 10 May 2005 23:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <428179C3.3090900@ec.rr.com> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:19:31 -0400 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050426) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Davis References: <20050511003146.GA28025@endersgame.net> In-Reply-To: <20050511003146.GA28025@endersgame.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD/i386 lockups with Xorg & Radeon cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD on the IA-32 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 03:07:27 -0000 Sean Davis wrote: >Hello, first let me enumerate the hardware I've seen this happen on: > >1) Athlon XP 2700+ > 1GB DDR333 > ATI Radeon 9200 AGP8X w/ 128MB > >2) Athlon XP 2200+ > 1GB DDR333 > ATI Radeon 7000 AGP4X w/ 32MB > ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB > >3) Athlon XP 2200+ > 1GB DDR333 > NVidia GeForce4 AGP8X (I think) w/ 32MB > ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB RAM > >On machine #2 (which is also machine #3), I'm trying to do a dual-head setup. >Currently the primary video card is an AGP Geforce4. But that doesn't seem >to matter. > >On all of these setups (9200, 7000, 7500) xorgcfg hardlocks the machine. No >matter what I do. > >Xorg works just fine in Linux on the same hardware. (but no dual-head, despite >config hacking, however that is a discussion for elsewhere) > >XFree86 4.5.0 under NetBSD works just fine with every Radeon on this list. > >Hence, I'm left to conclude that it's a combination of Xorg and FreeBSD - >Windows works, NetBSD works, Linux works. I've tried both 5.3-RELEASE and >5.4-RELEASE, both of them die just as well. > >I *REALLY* want to get rid of windows on machine #2/#3, but it's simply not >an option without a usable dual-headed desktop setup, as that is my work >machine. However, if I can't even get xorgcfg to run without the machine >needing a three finger salute, it's simply out of the question. I can't run >NetBSD or OpenBSD on it, because I need something that I can deploy quickly, >with up-to-date binary packages, something that neither NetBSD nor OpenBSD >provide. > >Does anyone have any insights to this problem? Please respond directly, I am >not subscribed to either freebsd-ia32 or freebsd-questions. > >TIA, >-Sean >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Do you have an nforce chipset on the motherboard? I do and I have never had any version of x to work with dri on a radeon. So disable dri if it is on and try again. Also are you getting any error messages? You can check /var/run for the x logs from the last running of x. Does x lock after the startx command, or randomly later on while you are using x? From owner-freebsd-ia32@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 11 10:30:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5955516A4D0 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:30:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from endersgame.net (philote.endersgame.net [64.34.168.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8499643D75 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 10:30:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dive@endersgame.net) Received: (qmail 550 invoked by uid 1002); 11 May 2005 10:30:34 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:30:34 -0400 From: Sean Davis To: jason henson Message-ID: <20050511103034.GC28269@endersgame.net> References: <20050511003146.GA28025@endersgame.net> <428179C3.3090900@ec.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <428179C3.3090900@ec.rr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD/i386 lockups with Xorg & Radeon cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD on the IA-32 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:30:36 -0000 On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:19:31PM -0400, jason henson wrote: > Sean Davis wrote: > > >Hello, first let me enumerate the hardware I've seen this happen on: > > > >1) Athlon XP 2700+ > > 1GB DDR333 > > ATI Radeon 9200 AGP8X w/ 128MB > > > >2) Athlon XP 2200+ > > 1GB DDR333 > > ATI Radeon 7000 AGP4X w/ 32MB > > ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB > > > >3) Athlon XP 2200+ > > 1GB DDR333 > > NVidia GeForce4 AGP8X (I think) w/ 32MB > > ATI Radeon 7500 PCI w/ 32MB RAM > > > >On machine #2 (which is also machine #3), I'm trying to do a dual-head > >setup. > >Currently the primary video card is an AGP Geforce4. But that doesn't seem > >to matter. > > > >On all of these setups (9200, 7000, 7500) xorgcfg hardlocks the machine. No > >matter what I do. > > > >Xorg works just fine in Linux on the same hardware. (but no dual-head, > >despite > >config hacking, however that is a discussion for elsewhere) > > > >XFree86 4.5.0 under NetBSD works just fine with every Radeon on this list. > > > >Hence, I'm left to conclude that it's a combination of Xorg and FreeBSD - > >Windows works, NetBSD works, Linux works. I've tried both 5.3-RELEASE and > >5.4-RELEASE, both of them die just as well. > > > >I *REALLY* want to get rid of windows on machine #2/#3, but it's simply not > >an option without a usable dual-headed desktop setup, as that is my work > >machine. However, if I can't even get xorgcfg to run without the machine > >needing a three finger salute, it's simply out of the question. I can't run > >NetBSD or OpenBSD on it, because I need something that I can deploy > >quickly, > >with up-to-date binary packages, something that neither NetBSD nor OpenBSD > >provide. > > > >Does anyone have any insights to this problem? Please respond directly, I > >am > >not subscribed to either freebsd-ia32 or freebsd-questions. > > > >TIA, > >-Sean > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > Do you have an nforce chipset on the motherboard? I do and I have never > had any version of x to work with dri on a radeon. So disable dri if it > is on and try again. No. Both motherboards are VIA chipsets, one is an ASUS and one is an ASRock. (although I've been told that ASRock is a low-budget division of ASUS, dunno whether that's true or not.) > Also are you getting any error messages? You can check /var/run for the > x logs from the last running of x. Nope. Just locks the machine. > Does x lock after the startx command, or randomly later on while you are > using x? It locks as soon as the X server starts. I can start it with X -configure, xorgcfg, or just plain `X', it doesn't matter - as soon as it starts trying to initialize the display, it locks up. -Sean From owner-freebsd-ia32@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 12 04:39:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280A016A4CE; Thu, 12 May 2005 04:39:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E4B43D90; Thu, 12 May 2005 04:38:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (cpe-065-184-196-020.ec.res.rr.com [65.184.196.20])j4C4ctLv001695; Thu, 12 May 2005 00:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4282E0C4.9050901@ec.rr.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:51:16 -0400 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050426) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Davis References: <20050511003146.GA28025@endersgame.net> <428179C3.3090900@ec.rr.com> <20050511103034.GC28269@endersgame.net> In-Reply-To: <20050511103034.GC28269@endersgame.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD/i386 lockups with Xorg & Radeon cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD on the IA-32 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 04:39:00 -0000 >>> >>> >>Do you have an nforce chipset on the motherboard? I do and I have never >>had any version of x to work with dri on a radeon. So disable dri if it >>is on and try again. >> >> > >No. Both motherboards are VIA chipsets, one is an ASUS and one is an ASRock. >(although I've been told that ASRock is a low-budget division of ASUS, dunno >whether that's true or not.) > > > >>Also are you getting any error messages? You can check /var/run for the >>x logs from the last running of x. >> >> > >Nope. Just locks the machine. > > > >>Does x lock after the startx command, or randomly later on while you are >>using x? >> >> > >It locks as soon as the X server starts. I can start it with X -configure, >xorgcfg, or just plain `X', it doesn't matter - as soon as it starts trying >to initialize the display, it locks up. > >-Sean > > > Sounds like a driver problem. Are you loading dri. Post a copy of xorg.conf.