From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 09:54:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AC816A4CE for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:54:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95FB43D46 for ; Sun, 1 May 2005 09:54:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.44 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1DSB9G-000Jgj-98 by authid for ; Sun, 01 May 2005 12:54:02 +0300 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:54:02 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050501095402.GE89689@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.9i (2005-03-13) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: migration from courier-imapd to dovecot X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 09:54:05 -0000 Hiya Labourers, Happy Labour Day! I have been using courier-imapd and squirrelmail for quite some time now. However, I'd like to try out dovecot (in production). According to the migration docs, it looks rather simplistic, until you realize that you have to migrate over 10k users, some of whom have created web folders, and with different names (some even with spaces). I am writing a simple shell script to accomplish the steps dovecot docs say are reqd for change over, but I am not getting far as far as the display of the folders on the squirrelmail web interface. I know I have to do two things: 1. Copying of the files in ~/Maildir/ (see the script below) 2. I also need to do this for, I believe, the $user.prefs file in squirrelmail's data directory. I am wondering if anyone in an ISP environment, having used SM and courier-imapd, ever migrated to dovecot and if they are willing to share the scripts they used in the process. I am for sure still missing on something I need to do, because when I make the changes, successfully hopefully, only default folders are displayed. Here is mine, which is still not clean, but which seems to do what is said at: http://wiki.dovecot.org/moin.cgi/Migration#head-06970f94fb8698efb2155667265adf3a834d15ea It's simplistic, and perhaps needs perfecting: If an #!/usr/local/bin/bash # Script to create the necessary files in ~/Maildir for # migrating from courier-imap to dovecot. 20050501 # store a user's home directory here for testing purposes DIRNAME="/home/wash/Administration/IMAP/TESTDIR" cd $DIRNAME # In every directory in $TESTDIR, go in, find the files named # courierimapsubscribed and courierimapuiddb and make the # dovecot equiv. for userdir in `ls -1`; do cd $userdir/Maildir for dir in `find . -type d \! -name "." -name ".*"`; do cd $dir if [ -f courierimapsubscribed ]; then cp courierimapsubscribed .subscriptions if [ -f .subscriptions ] ; then sed -i.bak -e "s/INBOX.//g" .subscriptions if [ -f courierimapuiddb ]; then cp courierimapuiddb dovecot-uidlist fi fi fi rm -f .subscriptions.bak done done # This appears to do what I want, at least, but .... -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ Put no trust in cryptic comments. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 10:49:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9404016A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:49:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D7943D2F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:49:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etechnix@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1427267wri for ; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:49:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=iMaTAkC6dxA4TXnAlIAnytg7cU+n+c7npaRUtaTExCxScZsl8/s5D7OPcIrf2BaxEmNgRQglFwIllejUAbmSfXv8QI95DTlQGf9/ckhrGtcGco9+CIJFdlwe1cHkUvN9xEwjbZmuDgKEjUCoamA2cvy+W+zOXzlZ5sbhN+/hLw8= Received: by 10.54.125.9 with SMTP id x9mr487659wrc; Mon, 02 May 2005 03:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.89.1 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2005 03:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 15:49:49 +0500 From: Etechnix Support To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Postfix Rate Limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Etechnix Support List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:49:50 -0000 Dear All,=20 =20 Can Anyone help me in setting up rate limiting in POSTFIX MTA, i have it running with mysql, corier-imap , cyrus-sasl, spamassaisin , on both freebsd and RH , is there any way i can limit maximum number of emails per day per user ? or anytthing close to it ? Thnx --=20 Regards Etechnix From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 10:59:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F6516A4CF for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:59:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mars.webnext.com (mars.webnext.com [213.161.193.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0ACC43D54 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:59:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apignard@webnext.com) Received: from mars.webnext.com (localhost.webnext.com [127.0.0.1]) by mars.webnext.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0419BE3F for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:53:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from portarn.webnext.com (alf94-3-82-66-251-138.fbx.proxad.net [82.66.251.138]) by mars.webnext.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC1D9BE26 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 12:53:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050502125128.248c0588@213.161.193.184> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 12:54:51 +0200 To: From: Arnaud PIGNARD In-Reply-To: <005201c54b92$0cf63e60$0701a8c0@CIRIUM> References: <005201c54b92$0cf63e60$0701a8c0@CIRIUM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AV-Checked: NextEmail Subject: Re: load balancing - email server X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:59:04 -0000 You can use IPFILTER rdr. There is a small code that's monitor http service and remove it if it's done (check the source). You adapt if for monitoring pop/smtp too. Carp seems very interresting. pen is not very usefull here since For LB i will recommand you to buy an alteon on ebay (around 600$ for a DS3 and 1300$ for 180e) At 03:31 28/04/2005, Sam Kava wrote: > >I am planning to setup a load balancing server to allow 3 pop servers to >share access to my mail server. Read the postings but nobody really >touch this subject. Appreciate any help, hopefully someone has done this >using freebsd. > > >Thanks for any help. > >Sam. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 10:59:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CBA16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:59:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mrx.wan.inter.net.il (mrx.wan.inter.net.il [192.117.191.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A00DA43D53 for ; Mon, 2 May 2005 10:59:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imriz@co.zahav.net.il) Received: from igfe.InetGold ([172.33.1.137]) by mrx.wan.inter.net.il (SAVSMTP 3.1.0.29) with SMTP id M2005050214022700209 ; Mon, 02 May 2005 14:02:27 +0200 Received: from IGMAIL.InetGold ([172.31.100.164]) by igfe.InetGold with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Mon, 2 May 2005 13:59:36 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:06:27 +0300 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Postfix Rate Limit Thread-Index: AcVPBbFg11/6ZEFsS6yLkwPpkYlRUQAAB6vw From: "Imri Zvik" To: "Etechnix Support" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2005 10:59:36.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[07882C50:01C54F06] cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Postfix Rate Limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:59:41 -0000 Hi, You can limit the global session count and request rate control. Visit http://www.postfix.org/anvil.8.html -- Imri Zvik PGP (2.6.3ia) Public Key: http://mariska.inter.net.il/~imriz/imriz.pgp =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Etechnix Support Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:50 PM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Postfix Rate Limit Dear All,=20 =20 Can Anyone help me in setting up rate limiting in POSTFIX MTA, i have it running with mysql, corier-imap , cyrus-sasl, spamassaisin , on both freebsd and RH , is there any way i can limit maximum number of emails per day per user ? or anytthing close to it ? 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Again, thanks for writing eBay. -- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 08:44:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D018E16A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:44:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BF743D62 for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 08:44:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etechnix@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so179980wri for ; Wed, 04 May 2005 01:43:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fRyyzY5iJRaNVdqLut7baPaMB+Zv4E3zXtgSa8mjinJx25tKHjhbm08CRWJtniMqLH42IbbmavgaJ0dO/dayYEYH+b7hJU8/bKD5aos3hcEcDFsYVt4M3WpHCz/b7dhYWo3sVnoupHUqtHtVeMsJ3ACbf8pAhWTPZoXI09QOTfE= Received: by 10.54.44.53 with SMTP id r53mr48928wrr; Wed, 04 May 2005 01:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.89.1 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2005 01:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:43:57 +0500 From: Etechnix Support To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Bandwidth Management X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Etechnix Support List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 08:44:46 -0000 Dear All,=20 =20 I am running a WISP, using ipfw and dummynet as my bandwidth management tool, but faicng problem in giving shared bandwidth to users ? also few VoIP users also face problem of latency and such things when they come to the shared bandwidth pool, any one can guide me for affective banadiwtdh managenemt software or anything related to this ? i will be thankfull. --=20 Regards Etechnix From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:06:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA27216A4CE for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:06:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mh2.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9866343D6A for ; Wed, 4 May 2005 12:06:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh2.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j44C6LHL098432; Wed, 4 May 2005 07:06:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <4278BABD.3070004@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 07:06:21 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050325 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Etechnix Support References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bandwidth Management X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:06:53 -0000 Etechnix Support wrote: > Dear All, > > I am running a WISP, using ipfw and dummynet as my bandwidth > management tool, but faicng problem in giving shared bandwidth to > users ? also few VoIP users also face problem of latency and such > things when they come to the shared bandwidth pool, any one can guide > me for affective banadiwtdh managenemt software or anything related to > this ? i will be thankfull. Are you looking for configuration help with ipfw? Also - what version of FreeBSD are you using? 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The Email scanner reported the following when it scanned that message: --- ---perlscanner results --- problem 'Disallowed breakage found in header name - potential virus' found in message --- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 20:05:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A2C16A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:05:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54601.mail.yahoo.com (web54601.mail.yahoo.com [68.142.225.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2584343D67 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 20:05:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kingsfool2003@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 88478 invoked by uid 60001); 5 May 2005 20:05:31 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=GUfAH3Ubn7P2xOLyQyX0xa673uAeNrI0F6GS9FQur6EgvxccC5SZ3FbaG/PEzta+nVFGIG95Cc2SuMXmPVSKI90Yv52KyECgeOGKC/0bGQkD/dJ53RzhkZ8YMtaX9Xc1gEjH1SJkUwqZP+ocW0H2pbRB6g+f44sFuv459X+bJr8= ; Message-ID: <20050505200531.88476.qmail@web54601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.90.243.3] by web54601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 May 2005 13:05:31 PDT Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:05:31 -0700 (PDT) From: kings fool To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: info on starting an isp X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:05:32 -0000 Hi, I am looking for recommended sources of information (either electronic or print) on the technical and practical (particularly in Canada) aspects of starting an isp. 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From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:11:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6CF16A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:11:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-nyc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-smtplb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.109.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3449443D81 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:11:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dlax@nyc.rr.com) Received: from Kwdbwtm (cpe-68-175-115-46.nyc.res.rr.com [68.175.115.46]) j46FBXId023906 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 11:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:11:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200505061511.j46FBXId023906@ms-smtp-02.rdc-nyc.rr.com> From: ecarmona To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scan-Result: Repaired 34843 W32.Klez.H@mm Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: A excite game X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:11:41 -0000 ALERT! 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From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:21:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623EA16A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:21:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from transact.bm (mail.transact.bm [209.240.40.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD37B43D31 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:21:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@101.net) Received: from [207.2.99.12] (HELO INFOCAST) by transact.bm (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 32000; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:22:15 -0300 From: "RH Lists" To: "'kings fool'" , Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:21:05 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Thread-Index: AcVRrf1A7iso10oNT6yI/aFglIaXpAAn/zlg In-Reply-To: <20050505200531.88476.qmail@web54601.mail.yahoo.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0518-4, 06/05/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-ID: Subject: RE: info on starting an isp X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:21:07 -0000 Chris, Good luck. With the possible exception of the prairies, Canada is a terrible place to run an independent ISP. Trust me, I used to own one (1995-2001). The telcos and cable companies now own the residential business. You can't get on cable, and the margin on DSL is too slim to run a business unless you have several thousand clients. Wireless can work, but it is generally not cost-competitive with DSL or Cable. In general, residential clients care only about price, not quality. So you need to be in an area where there is no high-speed competition. On the corporate side, there is a possibility for profit, if you can get creative, and provide better support than the big guys. Now, I'm running the network at an ISP in Bermuda. Here, there are still margins. And the weather is better :) Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of kings fool Sent: May 5, 2005 5:06 PM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: info on starting an isp Hi, I am looking for recommended sources of information (either electronic or print) on the technical and practical (particularly in Canada) aspects of starting an isp. I realize there are many publications out there on the subject, so I'm just seeking recommendations of publications you found most useful. Thanks, Chris. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:38:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B46F16A4D3 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:38:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbound-mta.egix.net (outbound-mta.egix.net [209.131.216.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2364143DBF for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 15:38:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff@jorsm.com) Received: from mail1.egix.net (mail-pix.egix.net [209.131.216.1]) by outbound-mta.egix.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j46FX8j0032215; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:33:08 -0500 Received: from cgw-01-167.munst.jorsm.net ([66.170.172.167] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by mail1.egix.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DU4iy-00009S-OU; Fri, 06 May 2005 10:26:44 -0500 Message-ID: <427B8E92.1050104@jorsm.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:34:42 -0500 From: Jeff Lynch User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RH Lists References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: 'kings fool' Subject: Re: info on starting an isp X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jeff@jorsm.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:38:46 -0000 I had the same thoughts. I sold my ISP near Chicago last year (1995-2004) to a CLEC. Curious, how did you make the connection to the Bermuda ISP? I might enjoy a geographic change. --jeff RH Lists wrote: >Chris, > >Good luck. With the possible exception of the prairies, Canada is a >terrible place to run an independent ISP. Trust me, I used to own one >(1995-2001). The telcos and cable companies now own the residential >business. You can't get on cable, and the margin on DSL is too slim to run a >business unless you have several thousand clients. Wireless can work, but >it is generally not cost-competitive with DSL or Cable. In general, >residential clients care only about price, not quality. So you need to be >in an area where there is no high-speed competition. > >On the corporate side, there is a possibility for profit, if you can get >creative, and provide better support than the big guys. > >Now, I'm running the network at an ISP in Bermuda. Here, there are still >margins. And the weather is better :) > >Rob > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] >On Behalf Of kings fool >Sent: May 5, 2005 5:06 PM >To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org >Subject: info on starting an isp > >Hi, > >I am looking for recommended sources of information (either electronic or >print) on the technical and practical (particularly in Canada) aspects of >starting an isp. I realize there are many publications out there on the >subject, so I'm just seeking recommendations of publications you found most >useful. > >Thanks, > >Chris. > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:16:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55ED116A4D4 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:16:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from transact.bm (mail.transact.bm [209.240.40.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6ED43D66 for ; Fri, 6 May 2005 17:16:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@101.net) Received: from [207.2.99.12] (HELO INFOCAST) by transact.bm (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 32919 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:17:04 -0300 From: "RH Lists" To: Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:15:54 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Thread-Index: AcVSU7hvER2zGhKjSJeasTE/xXVHAQAC3tTw In-Reply-To: <427B8E92.1050104@jorsm.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0518-4, 06/05/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-ID: Subject: RE: info on starting an isp X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:16:05 -0000 Headhunter. Got lucky. R -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lynch Sent: May 6, 2005 12:35 PM To: RH Lists Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; 'kings fool' Subject: Re: info on starting an isp I had the same thoughts. I sold my ISP near Chicago last year (1995-2004) to a CLEC. Curious, how did you make the connection to the Bermuda ISP? I might enjoy a geographic change. --jeff