From owner-freebsd-python@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 23 06:00:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDC916A41C for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:00:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4277543D4C for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:00:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (estartu@localhost.ze.tu-muenchen.de [127.0.0.1]) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N60BO4052981; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:00:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: (from estartu@localhost) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j4N60BMs052980; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:00:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from estartu) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:00:11 +0200 From: Gerhard Schmidt To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050523060010.GA52819@augusta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Upcoming zope release 2.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Python issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 06:00:14 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 The zope comunity is up to release a new version of Zope. The problem is=20 that there are some api changes that prevent some zope applications (e.g.= =20 plone 2.0.5) from running on zope 2.8. Plone 2.1 should fix this. Till=20 than we have to maintain two sepearate zope ports.=20 We have two ways of doing this.=20 1. We start a new www/zope28 port right now with zope2.8b2 and continue=20 zope2.7 as www/zope until all major zope appication are migrated to 2.8.=20 Than we move www/zope to www/zope27. www/zope28 stays as it is.=20 2. We wait until zope28 is released (sheduled for June 11th). than we=20 copy www/zope to www/zope27 and update www/zope to version2.8=20 I prefere method one, because it opens up the way for a zope3 port as well= =20 and means less work for maintainer of zope-based ports. They can move there ports to 2.8 as there applications are ready.=20 Bye Estartu=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | Nick : estartu IRC : Estartu | Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key 86856 Hiltenfingen | Privat: estartu@augusta.de | auf Anfrage/ Germany | | on request --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: xaf6Mtfk7cqw/ViKY3sON1Ge4rKaLXpy iQCVAwUBQpFxaQzx22nOTJQRAQGUVQQAqACIQw/4XNKYgInq9RACvrVpJDZjEO1M tDm4UTBan/yjw0oWr9ozM/8g0eYsf0yYwwS5qgIgTAobIce1ITXYca2HqaUXKb90 5ezF9VmcwSg0pN3kOOATnvob2vXKhjIZrwgkvDbhsyAnA7I8jtg3spxKEPEIT/C9 XBMssx15hWI= =lF0Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From owner-freebsd-python@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 23 06:21:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A1716A41C for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:21:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (etustar.ze.tum.de [129.187.39.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A4843D1F for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 06:21:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: from etustar.ze.tum.de (estartu@localhost.ze.tu-muenchen.de [127.0.0.1]) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4N6Lq7C053117; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:21:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from estartu@etustar.ze.tum.de) Received: (from estartu@localhost) by etustar.ze.tum.de (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j4N6LqJc053116; Mon, 23 May 2005 08:21:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from estartu) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:21:52 +0200 From: Gerhard Schmidt To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050523062152.GB52819@augusta.de> References: <20050523060010.GA52819@augusta.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050523060010.GA52819@augusta.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Upcoming zope release 2.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Python issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 06:21:54 -0000 --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 08:00:11AM +0200, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > Hi,=20 >=20 > The zope comunity is up to release a new version of Zope. The problem is= =20 > that there are some api changes that prevent some zope applications (e.g.= =20 > plone 2.0.5) from running on zope 2.8. Plone 2.1 should fix this. Till=20 > than we have to maintain two sepearate zope ports.=20 I've just read that zope2.8 integartion is planed for plone 2.2 which is=20 sheduled for November 1st 2005 and not for plone 2.1 sheduled for August 1st 2005. Bye Estartu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerhard Schmidt | Nick : estartu IRC : Estartu | Fischbachweg 3 | | PGP Public Key 86856 Hiltenfingen | Privat: estartu@augusta.de | auf Anfrage/ Germany | | on request --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: E6P7qGzGmd+9/tXqBei0dlXsAsisOeEi iQCVAwUBQpF2gAzx22nOTJQRAQHCqAP/UCFJzmkp0hTt6mKJHlWgA+K6+S9pfjMG DFP41UHIRtHfQ0Tg0t3l4NNWiaW4aks0V+afI1xuDaNwCeD3quhRyZGocOSe1ixB W95hcRIqvNW8s+G7phVDBHoVvJc7yCGFJMkDowft32MjnF0/xnpymXXso8asneKP jpqq7dCpsT8= =OhgB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX-- From owner-freebsd-python@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 24 21:38:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C391C16A41C for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 21:38:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: from tortoise.way.lv (7.lmuza.lv [195.13.151.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690DB43D1D for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 21:38:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tortoise.way.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72711FED5B for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 00:38:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from tortoise.way.lv ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tortoise [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08748-08 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 00:38:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [213.175.79.146]) by tortoise.way.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9BD1FED59 for ; Wed, 25 May 2005 00:38:19 +0300 (EEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20050523060010.GA52819@augusta.de> References: <20050523060010.GA52819@augusta.de> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 00:38:42 +0300 To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org From: Michael Dexter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at way.lv Subject: Re: Upcoming zope release 2.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Python issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:38:36 -0000 Hello, ... >2. We wait until zope28 is released (sheduled for June 11th). than we >copy www/zope to www/zope27 and update www/zope to version2.8 > >I prefere method one, because it opens up the way for a zope3 port as well >and means less work for maintainer of zope-based ports. They can move there >ports to 2.8 as there applications are ready. I also favor this method as I would like to begin working with Zope X3 which many people are using in production use. Michael. From owner-freebsd-python@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 27 20:29:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: python@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-python@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E7D16A41C for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:29:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from x@Vex.Net) Received: from smaug.vex.net (smaug.vex.net [66.96.28.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A0F43D48 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 20:29:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from x@Vex.Net) Received: from bee.xxvii.x (H140.C18.B96.tor.eicat.ca [66.96.18.140]) by smaug.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECC626088 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bee.xxvii.x (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1E58A114BF; Fri, 27 May 2005 16:29:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Middleton Organization: xxvii.net To: python@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 16:29:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050523060010.GA52819@augusta.de> In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: F59D 8A8C A8E1 23B5 407D DD30 9069 D1B3 6416 FFB6 X-Whee: Yes, Please. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200505271629.43164.x@Vex.Net> Cc: Subject: Re: Upcoming zope release 2.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Python issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:29:47 -0000 On Tuesday 24 May 2005 17:38, Michael Dexter wrote to freebsd-python@freebsd.org: > I also favor this method as I would like to begin working with Zope > X3 which many people are using in production use. If someone does a Zope 3 port, I wonder how modular it should be made. For example we actually do have a hunk of Zope 3 already in the ports system in the form of devel/py-zopeInterface (required by twisted 2)... -- Tim Middleton | Vex.Net | "Are the gods not just?" "Oh no, child. x@veX.net | VexTech.ca | What would become of us if they were?" (CSL) From owner-freebsd-python@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 28 02:16:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2AA16A41C for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 02:16:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yasi@yasi.to) Received: from smtp-o04.eonet.ne.jp (smtp-o04.eonet.ne.jp [203.140.81.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA5E543D1D for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 02:16:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yasi@yasi.to) Received: (qmail 20881 invoked from network); 28 May 2005 11:16:19 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO AA0000-MIMS16s.eo.k-opti.ad.jp) by aa0000-moms14d4 with SMTP; 28 May 2005 11:16:19 +0900 Received: (qmail 12404 invoked from network); 28 May 2005 11:16:19 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (58.70.62.5) by aa0000-mims16s with SMTP; 28 May 2005 11:16:19 +0900 Message-ID: <4297D46E.4020005@yasi.to> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:16:14 +0900 From: HAYASHI Yasushi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: ja, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-python@freebsd.org References: <20050523060010.GA52819@augusta.de> In-Reply-To: <20050523060010.GA52819@augusta.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gerhard Schmidt Subject: Re: Upcoming zope release 2.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Python issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 02:16:23 -0000 Hello, I like your method 1. It seems better when www/zope28 and www/zope30 have to go together. I hear that zopeX3 is quite different from Zope2, so they will coexist long time. Gerhard Schmidt wrote: > 1. We start a new www/zope28 port right now with zope2.8b2 and continue > zope2.7 as www/zope until all major zope appication are migrated to 2.8. > Than we move www/zope to www/zope27. www/zope28 stays as it is. > > 2. We wait until zope28 is released (sheduled for June 11th). than we > copy www/zope to www/zope27 and update www/zope to version2.8 -- HAYASHI Yasushi yasi@yasi.to From owner-freebsd-python@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 28 12:58:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: python@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-python@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BF616A41C for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:58:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karnaugh@karnaugh.za.net) Received: from chthon.slipgate.za.net (chthon.slipgate.za.net [67.18.198.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3785E43D1F for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:58:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karnaugh@karnaugh.za.net) Received: from [192.168.153.4] (c5-33-1.dbn.dial-up.net [196.39.46.33]) by chthon.slipgate.za.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41797FE80B; Sat, 28 May 2005 12:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <42986AFF.9070004@karnaugh.za.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:58:39 +0200 From: Colin Alston User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Middleton References: <20050523060010.GA52819@augusta.de> <200505271629.43164.x@Vex.Net> In-Reply-To: <200505271629.43164.x@Vex.Net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Slipgate-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Slipgate-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0.137, required 6, autolearn=disabled, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 0.14) X-MailScanner-From: karnaugh@karnaugh.za.net Cc: python@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upcoming zope release 2.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Python issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:58:04 -0000 Tim Middleton wrote: > >If someone does a Zope 3 port, I wonder how modular it should be made. For >example we actually do have a hunk of Zope 3 already in the ports system in >the form of devel/py-zopeInterface (required by twisted 2)... > > If you're using systems with Twisted 2.0.x you should rather keep a copy of the zope.interface module in wherever your project is, and not as a global package to avoid breaking older code when updating etc, unless you're using it with Zope specifically (yuk!) -- Colin Alston About the use of language: "It is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead." -- E.W.Dijkstra, 18th June 1975. (Perl did not exist at the time.)