From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 12:40:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFDF1065671 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdavtaker@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F148FC13 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdavtaker@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c30so2245217ika.3 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:40:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=I8kBrgFq1zKmyVXGaWG/4fV5VuDkzmS1aWb9i1t2z0Q=; b=Ff3Cu3XeWGN/2HCe6pDwfAN5bvrj9HAAYoYEl7/DEq06T6hBtGShoaKCQiJtREZyD8 t1sSu0uirPt9FFW+Rci/bu8l2uL8dGVWAhqtPiqXNhhELx20exVM+b0LaCa+e3QY1YbE NdsRlquh6UXHf96DG0sDtTwMfYFav4txs1YNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=TfuBsM2KAeMo0qPJJO0sawmcOKWM6CS0H2JUj8GaCPXrLKuFld1ARL0IgtvhDhPbAR 8pEVdxwUh1GPpjSuvOd3M2O3samUCXPqrHVyJM5IwqI0Z6mPr3i3IhfdHUYc5hlK7VTY zfhVxVxLybby7D7YpZEIFBQDoPVIm17/5jlj0= Received: by 10.210.21.6 with SMTP id 6mr5961746ebu.3.1216815203253; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.70.9 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:13:23 -0300 From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Sd=C3=A4vtaker?=" To: talk@metabug.org, "FreeBSD Advocacy" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: BSD talks in JRSL, looking for topics X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:40:22 -0000 SGVsbG8sCkltIGZyb20gYnVnLmRjLnViYS5hci4gbmV4dCBtb250aCB3ZSB3aWxsIGhhdmUgSlJT TCAoZnJlZSBzb2Z0d2FyZQpyZWdpb25hbCBldmVudCkgaGVyZSBpbiBBcmdlbnRpbmEsIHdlIGNh biBnZXQgYSBzcGFjZSB0byB0YWxrIGFib3V0CkJTRCwgdGhlIGV2ZW50IHdpbGwgaGF2ZSAyIHB1 YmxpY3MsIG5ld2JpZXMgYW5kIGV4cGVyaWVuY2VkIHVzZXJzLgpJIHdvbmRlcmluZyB3aGF0IHRv IHRhbGsgYWJvdXQuIEkgZ3Vlc3Mgd2UgY2FuIHRhbGsgYWJvdXQgUEYgZm9yCmV4cGVyaWVuY2Vk IHVzZXJzLCBidXQgd2hhdCB3b3VsZCBiZSBhIG5pY2UgdG9waWMgZm9yIG5ld2JpZSBwdWJsaWM/ CkxpY2Vuc2VzIGNvbXBhcml6b24/ClRoYW5rcyBmb3IgYW55IHN1Z2dlc3Rpb25zLgpTZGF2Cgot LSAKU2TDpHZ0YWtlciBwcmF5cyB0byBSaWtrdSBnb2RkZXNzIGZvciBhIGdvb2QgdHJlYXN1cmUu Cg== From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 19:30:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EF01065670 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from websrv01.jr-hosting.nl (websrv01.jr-hosting.nl [78.47.69.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C0C8FC12 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [195.64.94.120] (helo=axantucar.local) by websrv01.jr-hosting.nl with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KLjgC-000I4D-6h; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:07:16 +0200 Message-ID: <48878160.5010204@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:07:12 +0200 From: Remko Lodder User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sd=E4vtaker?= References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: talk@metabug.org, FreeBSD Advocacy Subject: Re: BSD talks in JRSL, looking for topics X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:30:04 -0000 Sdävtaker wrote: > Hello, > Im from bug.dc.uba.ar. next month we will have JRSL (free software > regional event) here in Argentina, we can get a space to talk about > BSD, the event will have 2 publics, newbies and experienced users. > I wondering what to talk about. I guess we can talk about PF for > experienced users, but what would be a nice topic for newbie public? > Licenses comparizon? > Thanks for any suggestions. > Sdav > > You could do a quick introduction to FreeBSD, how it's being build, what license is attached, how the processes work, how the community supports the FreeBSD Project etc. I would not start a topic purely on licenses, it should be attached to something broader. Later this year I'll do a presentation (13th of december) in Utrecht (Netherlands) where I will be presenting "the life of a FreeBSD developer" (or something along those lines), I'll describe my efforts for the FreeBSD Dutch Documentation Project, my various roles, how FreeBSD works, and things like that... Hope this helps a bit ;) Cheers Remko -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 21:07:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6995106567B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-jobs@bebik.net) Received: from postfix2-g20.free.fr (postfix2-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022CE8FC24 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:07:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-jobs@bebik.net) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by postfix2-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1DD2851D38 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:43:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B283EA0DB for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:44:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.228] (gam75-4-82-235-223-127.fbx.proxad.net [82.235.223.127]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BAC3EA0B2 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:44:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48879875.2050505@bebik.net> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:45:41 +0200 From: ros User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070927) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <48878160.5010204@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <48878160.5010204@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: BSD talks in JRSL, looking for topics X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:07:22 -0000 Remko Lodder wrote: > Sdävtaker wrote: >> Hello, >> Im from bug.dc.uba.ar. next month we will have JRSL (free software >> regional event) here in Argentina, we can get a space to talk about >> BSD, the event will have 2 publics, newbies and experienced users. >> I wondering what to talk about. I guess we can talk about PF for >> experienced users, but what would be a nice topic for newbie public? >> Licenses comparizon? >> Thanks for any suggestions. >> Sdav >> >> > > You could do a quick introduction to FreeBSD, how it's being build, what > license is attached, how the processes work, how the community supports > the FreeBSD Project etc. > > I would not start a topic purely on licenses, it should be attached to > something broader. > > Later this year I'll do a presentation (13th of december) in Utrecht > (Netherlands) where I will be presenting "the life of a FreeBSD > developer" (or something along those lines), I'll describe my efforts > for the FreeBSD Dutch Documentation Project, my various roles, how > FreeBSD works, and things like that... > > Hope this helps a bit ;) > > Cheers > Remko > Hello, For FreeBSD newcomers, something like Robert Watson presentation "How FreeBSD project works"[1] is a very good introduction to the project. Specially if the attendants have a strong linux culture :). Another good presentation is the Kris Kennaway one about FreeBSD 7 changes[2]. Regards Rodrigo [1] http://www.bsdcan.org/2006/papers/20060512-bsdcan2006-how-freebsd-works.pdf http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4400856579609253323 [2] http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20and%20beyond.pdf From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 00:00:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB117106566B for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gvanessen@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4008E8FC08 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gvanessen@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1433110nfh.33 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:00:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=nr6CQp/9y20R4g6461QPD31h+9X/NPqsQZ56oehvsEw=; b=CCnxdZ/MNYD9md9wimgP/RIyfw++Elac5niKMCCuMJnZlqHjYTwfCa/1PU9ZmbXmhr kl4Le1dwRyza7Gg3wj3RH2ff8QDyQcv4PhxBguSYP1wqNiL2fCmuKwecwK1V+TnLEVUU ZzbhhQfM8fX1aFIH/U4L2V0oaE7lojyy8rx54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=DrlK5oEul49l33IYI3uXXzu2NmnPHqKEjvaMrlfetWRyLvYDfvnTv415oY+KYNdj4f 6i4XoRYw1ikVPQWnCOweJ5xf+nC44x4/D1yiH4LejJ9GjhDyYnWJiuY5Mt1I3ln1tBZ4 vW314s667e+5uFIL8ETjlqmMYM5tfX8nm1Vzk= Received: by 10.210.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr1072232ebb.114.1216942443681; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.61.20 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:34:03 -0400 From: "Gerard van Essen" To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD News blog X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:43 -0000 As most of you guys may already know, I maintain the FreeBSD - the unknown Giant (www.freebsdnews.net) blog. This blog tracks news and development of FreeBSD and FreeBSD based OSses, e.g. PC-BSD, desktopBSD, m0n0wall, FreeNAS, FreeSBIE pfSense, etc. is there anything you guys think I should add/change to make the website even better for newbies, for people moving on from Linux and those who just want to read what's happening in "FreeBSD land". Many thanks in advance Gerard www.freebsdnews.net www.spreadFreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 09:57:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0751065672 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raven@apriliaforum.net) Received: from smtprelay10.ispgateway.de (smtprelay10.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540888FC14 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raven@apriliaforum.net) Received: from [91.18.88.153] (helo=Firlefanz.org) by smtprelay10.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KMJsj-0002FV-Hi for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:46:37 +0200 Message-ID: <4889A0ED.9000103@apriliaforum.net> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:46:21 +0200 From: Raven User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080620) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Df-Sender: 501592 Subject: Re: FreeBSD News blog X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:57:09 -0000 Gerard van Essen wrote: > is there anything you guys think I should add/change to make the website > even better for newbies, for people moving on from Linux and those who just > want to read what's happening in "FreeBSD land". > To BSD users, your Blog makes perfect sense. I read it with interest, follow the links and mostly share your view. . . but I'm a Unix user since 1989. There are very few things that make "normal" users interested in FreeBSD. Maybe our development model, the ports, and our tolerant community. (Everything comes from a single source, no one tells you to RTFM - Newbies like that) Folks want an OS, not a religion - this is where we beat Linux single handed. It is of utmost importance to tell a Windows user, that we are NOT Linux. Don't say FreeBSD is a Linux alternative - they might get the wrong impression. The "marketing strategy" should be a tad more aggressive. FreeBSD was there before everyone else, and we will be there after them. (You wouldn't believe how many ppl are impressed by that fact) They might also like to know, that FreeBSD/Windows can be dual booted by the Vista loader. (Afaik, this is not possible with Linux) . . and don't embed Flash 9 on a BSD site.