From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 11:06:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595C410656BB for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1578FC0A for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m52B6kcO093114 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:06:46 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m52B6jGw093110 for freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:06:45 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:06:45 GMT Message-Id: <200806021106.m52B6jGw093110@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:06:46 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. 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From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 17:44:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27BB1065672 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@miralink.com) Received: from plato.miralink.com (mail.miralink.com [70.103.185.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE4B8FC2A for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@miralink.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by plato.miralink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DDD1A9145 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:22:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from plato.miralink.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (plato.miralink.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mTBCac1CkKoe for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iago.office.miralink.com (iago.office.miralink.com [10.0.0.40]) by plato.miralink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3871A913D for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <484972BF.8050202@miralink.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:24:15 -0700 From: Sean Bruno User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to purchase a Marvell ARM Board? X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:44:11 -0000 While at FreeBSD CAN, I sat in on the awesome ARM presentations(Rafal Jaworowski) and was excited to locate and find a vendor who sells it. I have come up with zero leads. Does anyone have a contact or source to purchase devel or eval boards? -- Sean Bruno MiraLink Corporation 6015 NE 80th Ave, Ste 100 Portland, OR 97218 Phone 503-621-5143 Fax 503-621-5199 From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 17:59:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F12F106564A for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@miralink.com) Received: from plato.miralink.com (mail.miralink.com [70.103.185.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F748FC0C for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@miralink.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by plato.miralink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D49B1A913D; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:57:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from plato.miralink.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (plato.miralink.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1ONsrDZ3hNXr; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iago.office.miralink.com (iago.office.miralink.com [10.0.0.40]) by plato.miralink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37ACB1A90E6; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48497AEC.8020803@miralink.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:59:08 -0700 From: Sean Bruno User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafal Jaworowski References: <484972BF.8050202@miralink.com> <484979AF.2040902@semihalf.com> In-Reply-To: <484979AF.2040902@semihalf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to purchase a Marvell ARM Board? X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:59:10 -0000 Rafal Jaworowski wrote: > Sean Bruno wrote: > >> While at FreeBSD CAN, I sat in on the awesome ARM presentations(Rafal >> Jaworowski) and was excited to locate and find a vendor who sells it. I >> have come up with zero leads. >> >> Does anyone have a contact or source to purchase devel or eval boards? >> > > Hi Sean, > > I'm not sure what are the channels, through which Marvell sells their eval > systems, but can ask and get back. As a side note: there's a couple of > consumer devices with Orion chips in them (D-Link 615 rev A1, Linkstation), > which FreeBSD can run on, but this isn't probably what you really wanted, right? > > Rafal > No, not really. I'm hoping to get something with SATA, PCI and a USB device controller ... :) -- Sean Bruno MiraLink Corporation 6015 NE 80th Ave, Ste 100 Portland, OR 97218 Phone 503-621-5143 Fax 503-621-5199 From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 18:30:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002AB10656D8 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raj@semihalf.com) Received: from semihalf.com (semihalf.com [206.130.101.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DAC8FC12 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raj@semihalf.com) Received: from mail.semihalf.com (mail.semihalf.com [83.15.139.206]) by semihalf.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m56HrsC2016405; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:53:55 -0600 Message-ID: <484979AF.2040902@semihalf.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:53:51 +0200 From: Rafal Jaworowski MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Bruno References: <484972BF.8050202@miralink.com> In-Reply-To: <484972BF.8050202@miralink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to purchase a Marvell ARM Board? X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:30:18 -0000 Sean Bruno wrote: > While at FreeBSD CAN, I sat in on the awesome ARM presentations(Rafal > Jaworowski) and was excited to locate and find a vendor who sells it. I > have come up with zero leads. > > Does anyone have a contact or source to purchase devel or eval boards? Hi Sean, I'm not sure what are the channels, through which Marvell sells their eval systems, but can ask and get back. As a side note: there's a couple of consumer devices with Orion chips in them (D-Link 615 rev A1, Linkstation), which FreeBSD can run on, but this isn't probably what you really wanted, right? Rafal From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 20:46:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47210106564A for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@miralink.com) Received: from plato.miralink.com (mail.miralink.com [70.103.185.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217DD8FC22 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@miralink.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by plato.miralink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECEB1A9384; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:44:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from plato.miralink.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (plato.miralink.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rUwFo-TiXAxi; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iago.office.miralink.com (iago.office.miralink.com [10.0.0.40]) by plato.miralink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C501A9141; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4849A21D.90608@miralink.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:46:21 -0700 From: Sean Bruno User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jia-Shiun Li References: <484972BF.8050202@miralink.com> <484979AF.2040902@semihalf.com> <48497AEC.8020803@miralink.com> <1d6d20bc0806061344y6c9b77a5h7d80be76c0361901@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1d6d20bc0806061344y6c9b77a5h7d80be76c0361901@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to purchase a Marvell ARM Board? X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:46:22 -0000 Jia-Shiun Li wrote: > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Sean Bruno wrote: > >> Rafal Jaworowski wrote: >> >>> Sean Bruno wrote: >>> >>>> While at FreeBSD CAN, I sat in on the awesome ARM presentations(Rafal >>>> Jaworowski) and was excited to locate and find a vendor who sells it. I >>>> have come up with zero leads. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have a contact or source to purchase devel or eval boards? >>>> >>>> >>> Hi Sean, >>> >>> I'm not sure what are the channels, through which Marvell sells their eval >>> systems, but can ask and get back. As a side note: there's a couple of >>> consumer devices with Orion chips in them (D-Link 615 rev A1, >>> Linkstation), >>> which FreeBSD can run on, but this isn't probably what you really wanted, >>> right? >>> >>> Rafal >>> >>> >> No, not really. I'm hoping to get something with SATA, PCI and a USB device >> controller ... :) >> > > Maybe find some sales representatives or distributors near you from > their web site, http//www.marvell.com/? > Thanks for the information. I've attempted that several times since BSDCAN and several times before that. I've never received any feedback at all. Perhaps I'm not asking the right question? -- Sean Bruno MiraLink Corporation 6015 NE 80th Ave, Ste 100 Portland, OR 97218 Phone 503-621-5143 Fax 503-621-5199 From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 21:09:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25C0106567B for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 21:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jiashiun@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CB28FC0A for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 21:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jiashiun@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so538182wra.13 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:09:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Qgh/nreZsfsiuXCerlYdaGVSez4OUGirq2wf/qelh4A=; b=UzuH9LDsIOXfYJGD7SYFR4gIzEtaG7ab/qoicpOQwBHLkJyq28XfGqDEH5jkZ2Ew+N vNAZMeSP3s4AlMxqnhITX6PHWFG2Osk7sNp0fjL/+HpNSOAOTtcz+c6NUd4rBpsfYnHO ki3KQnth+ixoxRlM8cjHo406xRbiPWoWNScpQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Rdy54UT0N2d2VOkVzVFidjU181ITY6dcF+Jwk6peMUQX79KHaace2l7IDPwzQN0J/6 E5gyiLkUnT3+KGmYkhsJtctqllhwo6Idy2Nc17wbIA/Flg6HfP0ayUcNxViQvo7/XzEf 6dOoXnC/zkWYx8o1EuNL55JAiAQ4c0LkU5c2g= Received: by 10.90.71.16 with SMTP id t16mr563583aga.94.1212785095536; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.51.11 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1d6d20bc0806061344y6c9b77a5h7d80be76c0361901@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 04:44:54 +0800 From: "Jia-Shiun Li" To: "Sean Bruno" In-Reply-To: <48497AEC.8020803@miralink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <484972BF.8050202@miralink.com> <484979AF.2040902@semihalf.com> <48497AEC.8020803@miralink.com> Cc: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to purchase a Marvell ARM Board? X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:09:15 -0000 On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Sean Bruno wrote: > Rafal Jaworowski wrote: >> Sean Bruno wrote: >>> While at FreeBSD CAN, I sat in on the awesome ARM presentations(Rafal >>> Jaworowski) and was excited to locate and find a vendor who sells it. I >>> have come up with zero leads. >>> >>> Does anyone have a contact or source to purchase devel or eval boards? >>> >> >> Hi Sean, >> >> I'm not sure what are the channels, through which Marvell sells their eval >> systems, but can ask and get back. As a side note: there's a couple of >> consumer devices with Orion chips in them (D-Link 615 rev A1, >> Linkstation), >> which FreeBSD can run on, but this isn't probably what you really wanted, >> right? >> >> Rafal >> > > No, not really. I'm hoping to get something with SATA, PCI and a USB device > controller ... :) Maybe find some sales representatives or distributors near you from their web site, http//www.marvell.com/? From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 10:49:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEFA106566C for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@incunabulum.net) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A62A8FC15 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@incunabulum.net) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F98112B13; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 06:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 07 Jun 2008 06:49:05 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 6UCLB82lKgvaVL6MdUyWlRLL+ZkpXnBt4eGEnU37O4BK 1212835745 Received: from empiric.lon.incunabulum.net (unknown [81.168.51.182]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C977A2884A; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 06:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <484A679E.7010106@incunabulum.net> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:49:02 +0100 From: Bruce M Simpson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080514) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Low cost ARM9 SoC board - NSD100/NCB3AST X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:49:06 -0000 Hi, I have just made a speculative purchase of an ARM9 based device, the Emprex NSD-100 (pictures of inside case): http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/04/29/emprex-nsd-100-p2p-download-engine/1 The UK cost ex vat is ~35 UKP retail per unit. 8MB flash, 64MB DRAM, 2x USB2 ports and 1x 10/100 PHY. In other markets (eg. Australia) the AgeStar NCB3AST may be available, which has SATA (!), and 1 of the two USB2 ports on the SoC is configured as a device port. Though it's a bit more expensive: although there are pads for several resistors on the bottom. A friend and I popped the top off the NSD100 as soon as it came in. There is some RF shielding which needs removed to get full access. There is a single 6-pin header for the UART, and apparently no JTAG, although there are pads for several resistors on the bottom. The box definitely runs Linux of some description although the serial lines seem very noisy. A pinout which gives me the least amount of garbled text is: VCC 1 2 3 4 TX 5 6 GND ...but TX appears to be connected to the +3.3V line. My MAX232 wants 5V, but only 3.3V is available. I didn't bother checking this with a scope... It seems to be 38400 8-N-1, same as the tinyhack guy says for the NCB3AST. Drops into BusyBox on boot, and we can just make out the messages from their Linux about it being the "FA526" CPU. Both the NSD100 and NCB3AST use the Star Semiconductor Corp STR9104 system-on-chip. The NSD100 allegedly uses U-Boot firmware. Star on their website claim that the STR91xx has been purchased for use in various vendor designs: http://www.starsemi.com/vEng/index1.html ...their product line appears to be positioned competitively with Intel XScale IXP. The STR91xx appears to incorporate a licensed FA526 ARM9 IP core from Faraday Tech. Corp. I believe the on-chip network controllers are implemented in a similar way. I don't see any download links for the code which Emprex must provide, as they ship Linux in their product, to conform with the GPLv2 license. This guy claims to be working on opening up the Linux port: http://tinyhack.com/2008/05/18/hacking-ncb3ast-day-1/ There is a patch set for Linux 2.4 which adds STAR_STR9100 SoC support, and might serve as a jumping off point for starting to port FreeBSD to this device: http://tinyhack.com/files/patch-from-kernel-2.4.36.4-to-star.bz2 dmesg for a similar device is here: http://svn.openfoundry.org/usert2500/star/star_log.txt From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 13:16:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B17C106567A; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D358FC26; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D65112CE9; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:00:16 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: oFUXY9Mhfcee07r4L8430lEnZt5E2Fy8Sb6RqDi/33X8 1212843615 Received: from empiric.lon.incunabulum.net (unknown [81.168.51.182]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD07E13F79; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <484A865C.9010009@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:00:12 +0100 From: "Bruce M. Simpson" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080514) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org References: <484A679E.7010106@incunabulum.net> In-Reply-To: <484A679E.7010106@incunabulum.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Low cost ARM9 SoC board - NSD100/NCB3AST X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:16:06 -0000 Bruce M Simpson wrote: > Hi, > > I have just made a speculative purchase of an ARM9 based device, the=20 > Emprex NSD-100 (pictures of inside case): > =20 > http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/04/29/emprex-nsd-100-p2p-download= -engine/1=20 > Finally, the uart pinouts. We don't know what 3+4 are but the traces definitely go to the SoC. As=20 with all of these things it's difficult to reverse engineer what BGA=20 stuff does without using hot air rework and manual re-balling of the=20 pads is risky. DCE view: from SoC TX 1 2 RX 3 4 +3.3 Vcc 5 6 GND # cat /proc/mtd dev: size erasesize name mtd0: 00020000 00010000 "Armboot" <----- boot loader mtd1: 007c0000 00010000 "Kernel & Ramdisk" mtd2: 00020000 00010000 "configure" Holding down the reset button (next to power connector) breaks into=20 ARMBoot on power-on. Flash is mapped at 0x10000000 physical on boot. STR9100>bdinfo enetaddr =3D 00:AA:BB:CC:XX:XX ip_addr =3D 192.168.10.2 baudrate =3D 38400 bps arch_number =3D 242 env_t =3D 0003A6B8 boot_params =3D 00000100 DRAM:00.start =3D 00000000 DRAM:00.size =3D 04000000 STR9100>version ARMboot 1.1.0 (Oct 11 2006 - 18:04:44) STR9100>printenv baudrate=3D38400 ethaddr=3D00:aa:bb:cc:xx:xx ipaddr=3D192.168.10.2 serverip=3D192.168.10.3 netmask=3D255.255.0.0 bootcmd=3Dgo 0x10020000 bootdelay=3D0 back to--- Creating 3 MTD partitions on "str9100_flash": 0x00000000-0x00020000 : "Armboot" 0x00020000-0x007e0000 : "Kernel & Ramdisk" 0x007e0000-0x00800000 : "configure" --- Looks like some kind of compressed kernel image with a loader in front;=20 it doesn't look like elf, based on monitor inspection. The FA526 core is configured little-endian. There is a bug with the ARMboot firmware's bootp command. the BOOTP/DHCP = next-server address needs to be in the target's native endian format=20 (you can see this in its ARP requests). e.g. 192.168.0.1 -> next-server 1.0.168.192; for isc-dhcpd You also need to set up a little-endian alias (a /32 will do) so it'll=20 get an ARP response! Then, and only then, will it try to tftp 0200A8C0.img at 0x01000000 by=20 default (again, this is hex in native endian). From the looks of it it tries to boot a full "kernel+rootfs" image with = a loader in front in all cases (boot and flash bootstrap), it doesn't=20 look like ARMboot has an ELF loader (see "Image Formats"): =20 http://armboot.cvs.sourceforge.net/armboot/armboot/README?revision=3D1.7&= view=3Dmarkup Haven't tried building a FreeBSD kernel for this sucker yet. Full linux dmesg: empiric:~ % cu -t -l /dev/cuaU0 -s 38400 can't open log file /var/log/aculog. Connected =FC=F0=F8=FF=FEUncompressing=20 Linux....................................................................= =2E...............=20 done, booting the kernel. request_standard_resources()....OK trap_init().....OK init_IRQ().....OK sched_init().....OK softirq_init().....OK time_init().....OK Linux version 2.4.27-star (root@ubuntu) (gcc version 3.3.6) #1759 Wed=20 Aug 15 03:31:19 PDT 2007 CPU: FA526id(wb) revision 1 ICache:16KB enabled, DCache:16KB enabled, BTB support Machine: STAR_STR9100 On node 0 totalpages: 16384 zone(0): 16384 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Kernel command line: console=3DttyS0,38400 root=3D/dev/ram0=20 initrd=3D0x00900000,10M mem=3D64M@0x00000000 IRQ Timer1 at interrupt number 0x0 and clock 100000000(Hz) console_init().....OK kmem_cache_init().....OK Calibrating delay loop... 153.60 BogoMIPS Memory: 64MB =3D 64MB total Memory: 51740KB available (1953K code, 574K data, 220K init) mem_init().....OK pgtable_cache_init().....OK max_threads is :1024 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ proc_caches_init().....OK Dentry cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Inode cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) vfs_caches_init().....OK Buffer cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) buffer_init().....OK Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) page_cache_init().....OK signals_init().....OK POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Data In reg is:1bfc0c!!!!!!!!!!!!! USB to PC now PCI: bus0: Fast back to back transfers disabled pci bridge found Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Initializing RT netlink socket do initcalls start Starting kswapd NTFS driver v1.1.22 [Flags: R/W] SGI XFS with no debug enabled i2c-core.o: i2c core module version 2.6.1 (20010830) i2c-algo-bit.o: i2c bit algorithm module pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured Str9100 Serial Driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with no serial options=20 enabled ttyS00 at 0xf7800000 (irq =3D 10) is a Star_UART !!!!!!!!!!!!!mac is: 0:d0:35:0:XX:XX phy0 id:0243, phy1 id:ffff !!!!!!!!!!! function:configure_lan_port Line:1811 function:configure_lan_port Line:1855 function:configure_lan_port Line:1881 function:configure_lan_port Line:1961 RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 20480K size 1024 blocksize loop: loaded (max 8 devices) PPP generic driver version 2.4.2 PPP Deflate Compression module registered PPP BSD Compression module registered SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno =3D 2 kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno =3D 2 Amd/Fujitsu Extended Query Table v1.1 at 0x0040 str9100_flash: Swapping erase regions for broken CFI table. number of CFI chips: 1 cfi_cmdset_0002: Disabling fast programming due to code brokenness. Creating 3 MTD partitions on "str9100_flash": 0x00000000-0x00020000 : "Armboot" 0x00020000-0x007e0000 : "Kernel & Ramdisk" 0x007e0000-0x00800000 : "configure" ftl_cs: FTL header not found. ftl_cs: FTL header not found. ftl_cs: FTL header not found. usb.c: registered new driver hub hcd.c: ehci_hcd @ EHCI, EHCI_HCdriver hcd.c: irq 24, pci mem fcc00000 usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected host/usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xc5819000, IRQ 23 host/usb-ohci.c: usb-OHCI, OHCI_HCdriver usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected usb.c: registered new driver usblp printer.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 8192) NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. NET4: AppleTalk 0.18a for Linux NET4.0 NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.97 (double precision) do initcalls end RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 Freeing initrd memory: 10240K VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing init memory: 220K UART IRQ_ports =3D c02a6018 UART IRQ at interrupt number 0xa Mon Jan 1 00:00:00 UTC 2007 Mounting root fs rw ... Load x1205 rtc driver ... Using /lib/modules/2.4.27-star/x1205-rtc.o X1205: I2C based RTC driver. X1205: found X1205 on STR9100 I2C Adapter ccr_write_enable: verify SR failed X1205: i2c_add_driver RTC driver. X1205: misc_register RTC driver. atr is 0 Synchronize system date & time ... Mounting other filesystems ... System initialization begin! Load configuration file OK! Time zone setting OK! Load nt_sev OK! info, udhcpc (v0.9.9-pre) started Network setting OK! System time setting OK! sh: =A8t@=FE=FF=BF,=FE=FF=BF=C0=B5: not found Http & Ftp OK! Load automount OK! USB connect to pc; clear all interrupt ! Load button driver OK! Load bittorrent job control deamon OK! Load upnp av finished! Load check disk full finished! System initialization end! Load printerd ... printerd wakened Sysinit done BusyBox v1.00-rc2 (2006.09.14-03:08+0000) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. # MTD block devices are present out of the box. It should be possible to=20 depenguinate this from within Linux; there is no mtd tool, but it could=20 be built and uploaded. There is a python 2.4 interpreter. # cat /proc/iomem 00000000-03ffffff : System RAM 0003f000-00227677 : Kernel code 00227678-002b70ab : Kernel data 10000000-107fffff : flash b0000000-b03fffff : PCI non-prefetchable b0400000-b07fffff : PCI prefetchable It looks like the on-chip USB controller is memory mapped, but does NOT=20 use PCI configuration space -- from dmesg I imagine the Linux USB driver = has been hacked to attach directly to the memory mapped space, a bit=20 like the SiBA core enumeration on the Sentry5 MIPS SoC. From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 15:16:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83A11065679 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173508FC1B for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id AAA02924; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 00:40:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 00:40:31 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Bruce M Simpson In-Reply-To: <484A679E.7010106@incunabulum.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Low cost ARM9 SoC board - NSD100/NCB3AST X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:16:49 -0000 On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > Hi, > > I have just made a speculative purchase of an ARM9 based device, the > Emprex NSD-100 (pictures of inside case): > > http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/04/29/emprex-nsd-100-p2p-download-engine/1 > > The UK cost ex vat is ~35 UKP retail per unit. 8MB flash, 64MB DRAM, 2x > USB2 ports and 1x 10/100 PHY. Cute, and certainly affordable. > In other markets (eg. Australia) the AgeStar NCB3AST may be available, > which has SATA (!), and 1 of the two USB2 ports on the SoC is configured > as a device port. Though it's a bit more expensive: After hunting, only found one vendor mentioned here so far: http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=XC4677&CATID=&keywords=bittorrent&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID= Jaycar have shops all 'round, and only punt on volume stuff usually. A$150 is about U$140, likely the usual 'double it for oz' pricing :) And it's fanful, has apparently both 5 and 12V supplies, unspecified wattage. Fans spell eventual grief, and I'd rather single rail power. So yours looks more interesting, to me anyway .. > A friend and I popped the top off the NSD100 as soon as it came in. > There is some RF shielding which needs removed to get full access. There > is a single 6-pin header for the UART, and apparently no JTAG, although > there are pads for several resistors on the bottom. > > The box definitely runs Linux of some description although the serial > lines seem very noisy. > > A pinout which gives me the least amount of garbled text is: > > VCC 1 2 > 3 4 > TX 5 6 GND > > ...but TX appears to be connected to the +3.3V line. My MAX232 wants 5V, > but only 3.3V is available. I didn't bother checking this with a scope... Is VCC +5V, single supply, with 3.3V chopped from that? If you get a chance to measure DC mA on it at some stage running doing something, at whatever V its brick supplies, I'd be interested to know (750Ah 12V solar/battery here, so totally obsessive about real power drawn) > It seems to be 38400 8-N-1, same as the tinyhack guy says for the > NCB3AST. Drops into BusyBox on boot, and we can just make out the > messages from their Linux about it being the "FA526" CPU. > > Both the NSD100 and NCB3AST use the Star Semiconductor Corp STR9104 > system-on-chip. The NSD100 allegedly uses U-Boot firmware. > > Star on their website claim that the STR91xx has been purchased for use > in various vendor designs: > http://www.starsemi.com/vEng/index1.html > > ...their product line appears to be positioned competitively with Intel > XScale IXP. Hope their quality control's up to the comparison .. > The STR91xx appears to incorporate a licensed FA526 ARM9 IP core from > Faraday Tech. Corp. I believe the on-chip network controllers are > implemented in a similar way. > > I don't see any download links for the code which Emprex must provide, > as they ship Linux in their product, to conform with the GPLv2 license. > This guy claims to be working on opening up the Linux port: > http://tinyhack.com/2008/05/18/hacking-ncb3ast-day-1/ > > There is a patch set for Linux 2.4 which adds STAR_STR9100 SoC support, > and might serve as a jumping off point for starting to port FreeBSD to > this device: > http://tinyhack.com/files/patch-from-kernel-2.4.36.4-to-star.bz2 > > dmesg for a similar device is here: > http://svn.openfoundry.org/usert2500/star/star_log.txt You're not keeping up :) Linux 2.6 startup with a dmesg / session: http://tinyhack.com/2008/06/05/porting-linux-kernel-26254-to-star-str9100-agestar/ Interesting if only gratuitously, Thanks, Ian From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 17:09:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E2C1065678 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@incunabulum.net) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C938FC13 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@incunabulum.net) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F0D112F67; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:09:52 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: DZ4pEEsukt2s/6edtc+3AY/h6S62scG7yDr1ksZ1wJJw 1212858592 Received: from empiric.lon.incunabulum.net (82-35-112-254.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F33CAC292; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <484AC0DE.8000006@incunabulum.net> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:09:50 +0100 From: Bruce M Simpson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080514) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Low cost ARM9 SoC board - NSD100/NCB3AST X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:09:53 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > You're not keeping up :) Linux 2.6 startup with a dmesg / session: > > http://tinyhack.com/2008/06/05/porting-linux-kernel-26254-to-star-str9100-agestar/ > Whups. I see he noticed the on-chip USB host controller is on the SoC's internal bus, which isn't PCI. Does anyone know if Hans' new USB stack supports attachment of USB host controllers which are not on PCI? P.S. I have fired off emails to Emprex asking "where's the source guys?" and to Star asking "hey, where are your programmer docs and Linux BSP?". cheers BMS From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 17:21:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210351065676 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raj@semihalf.com) Received: from semihalf.com (semihalf.com [206.130.101.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78D18FC13 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:21:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raj@semihalf.com) Received: from mail.semihalf.com (mail.semihalf.com [83.15.139.206]) by semihalf.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m57HLVRW020371; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:21:31 -0600 Message-ID: <484AC399.8030809@semihalf.com> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:21:29 +0200 From: Rafal Jaworowski MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce M Simpson References: <484AC0DE.8000006@incunabulum.net> In-Reply-To: <484AC0DE.8000006@incunabulum.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Low cost ARM9 SoC board - NSD100/NCB3AST X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:21:34 -0000 Bruce M Simpson wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: >> You're not keeping up :) Linux 2.6 startup with a dmesg / session: >> >> http://tinyhack.com/2008/06/05/porting-linux-kernel-26254-to-star-str9100-agestar/ > > Whups. I see he noticed the on-chip USB host controller is on the SoC's > internal bus, which isn't PCI. > > Does anyone know if Hans' new USB stack supports attachment of USB host > controllers which are not on PCI? I don't know Hans' new code, but can comment on our legacy USB stack: if the controller is EHCI-compliant (and I take it it is, as you mentioned USB2 previously), the attachment shouldn't be a big deal. The ehci(4) driver is well split into the core driver piece and the bus attachment, so it should be easy to provide your glue code. As an example, see our EHCI attachment code for Marvell Orion SoC: http://perforce.freebsd.org/fileViewer.cgi?FSPC=//depot/projects/arm/src/sys/dev/usb/ehci%5fmbus.c&REV=1 It's rather trivial, and we only had to deal with silicon bugs and introduce some workarounds according to errata. Rafal From owner-freebsd-embedded@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 22:08:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789961065672 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregg.drwho8@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8C78FC1F for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregg.drwho8@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so409328ana.13 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:08:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=s/Wrb+RO8kQChDl6I9zIcVqkCku752qmoBSNWVXWghc=; b=N+TO+jdiusqrC+fLSwxDt4gWPRqLUv0pMDe8ftvXn0jVyyh44U+8rh7VeyustKY8y6 49krYZW6uG+hjMAlcaz+T0ePhAc745k6iZv6wvtj0ZOQ4X6mEDTGLAzTD7MQKrY1c+YW MgD4IkUcFJ95qI6XAvCvWlqLgYM7z+QrjhCOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=JSOAMcubRpcXL6eYvxHccSmQQ3xrSISrZfU2T6uVeeIetyAV24somlVZQNmURQMaft FUuHtnOdw6yqT4aofi24z0PeMOJA8KP3K7aYbz6y1Z7uoalPFvecdhd3gfJKuKAWZYYd arEph8eQMBYeWZ1Kl44a8gROYdMU7tyX0ySNQ= Received: by 10.100.215.14 with SMTP id n14mr1823287ang.148.1212874947964; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.128.3 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <18d205ed0806071442p7001ca20ya60df4db15af0a06@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:42:27 -0400 From: "Gregg Levine" To: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Is this the right place to discuss embedded X86 boards? X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:08:03 -0000 Hello! I am in the process of developing the code, and probably everything else; Currently now it's on paper, but soon on hardware, for the Soekris boards. http://www.soekris.com So is this the appropriate place for these discussions? -- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature was once found posting rude messages in English in the Moscow subway."