From owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 24 19:49:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35851106566C for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA2B8FC15 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A7DE0.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.125.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id oAOJcdDt039791 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:38:39 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAOJcghE000994 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:38:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oAOJcb3x036939 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:38:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201011241938.oAOJcb3x036939@fire.js.berklix.net> To: isdn@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Linux Unix Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/cv/ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:38:37 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Subject: Deutsche Telekom termination of T-ISDN Mehrgeraeteanschluss Standard X-BeenThere: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using ISDN with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:49:12 -0000 Hi ISDN users, 1st half mail concerns only some people in Germany, 2010 11 19, I received a letter from Deutsche Telekom, that they plan to terminate my ISDN early in the new year, & encouraging me to sign up for eg: double flat rate + 6 M bit/s DSL. Scanned excerpt : http://berklix.com/~jhs/txt/isdn/ I already also have DSL (1 Mbit/s) obviously time to upgrade that. Telekom don't say if they're scrapping all national ISDN service, or just in my city centre area, or just some ISDN service. I'll phone up D.Telekom & try to find out what's going on also beyond my locality. I havent used isdn on FreeBSD for many years to move data (I use DSL for that), But I daily use ISDN to both: - Support my Istec-1008 ISDN Local_Call_Office = Private_Branch_Exchange = TK_Anlage, - Display name (not number) of all callers presented on an xterm to me. I'd hate to lose that. I'm in a city, so DSL cable length no problem, but if D.T. were proposing to drop ISDN ? what happens to other people way out in the country where DSL repeaters cant reach ? Independent of reader country:: ISDN for BSD was developed largely in Germany, If ISDN supplier D.T. were to remove ISDN service some places, it might affect developers ? ( I'm still running ISDN on FreeBSD-6 as latest patches on 9-current I've not tried yet, sorry). The other way to retain a named text caller ID from incoming number, is for me to reconnect serial cable (still a use for serial :-) to my Istec-1008 ( /usr/ports/misc/estic ) then like I did maybe a decade back with isdnd, hack estic to look up name from numbers. But that Istec-1008 also needs ISDN, & very few if any other PBX have ever had their serial protocol cracked, & a package written like Istec hardware & Estic software. If anyyone knows of other LCO / PBX / TK public source packages I'd be interested. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, or HTML or base 64. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. From owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 25 11:23:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58568106564A for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:23:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@colognechip.com) Received: from blatz006.blatzheim.com (mail.bn-online.net [217.76.96.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39C98FC0A for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:22:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-IP: 217.76.104.190 Received: from mailhub.ccag (unknown [217.76.104.190]) by blatz006.blatzheim.com (Pstfx-gb-2.8-20101007-TLS) with ESMTP id 301CF1FF058; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:08:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.ccag (mail.ccag [192.168.1.8]) by mailhub.ccag (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFDA65E40; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:08:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at colognechip.com Message-ID: <4CEE4395.3080705@colognechip.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:08:05 +0100 From: Cologne Chip AG Organization: Cologne Chip AG User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <201011241938.oAOJcb3x036939@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201011241938.oAOJcb3x036939@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deutsche Telekom termination of T-ISDN Mehrgeraeteanschluss Standard X-BeenThere: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using ISDN with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:23:00 -0000 Dear Julian, it is a misinterpretation of the letter that you have received, that Deutsche Telekom (DT) intends to terminate the ISDN service. But DT has decided to drop some old tariffs. Nowaydays DT promotes flat-rate tariffs for voice, e.g. in combination with xDSL for data access. Your tariff seems to to be such an old one for time-based billing. Of course you can stay with your existing ISDN subscriber line for telephony and narrow-band data communications. Only the billing method will be changed - not the access technology itself. For addition information please refer to the announcement of this step of DT (in April last year): http://www.teltarif.de/telekom-isdn-komfort-kuendigung/news/34001.html (in German language only) Best regards, Harald Schaefer Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi ISDN users, > 1st half mail concerns only some people in Germany, > 2010 11 19, I received a letter from Deutsche Telekom, that > they plan to terminate my ISDN early in the new year, & > encouraging me to sign up for eg: double flat rate + 6 M bit/s DSL. > > Scanned excerpt : http://berklix.com/~jhs/txt/isdn/ > > I already also have DSL (1 Mbit/s) obviously time to upgrade that. > > Telekom don't say if they're scrapping all national ISDN service, > or just in my city centre area, or just some ISDN service. > > I'll phone up D.Telekom & try to find out what's going > on also beyond my locality. > > I havent used isdn on FreeBSD for many years to move data > (I use DSL for that), But I daily use ISDN to both: > - Support my Istec-1008 ISDN Local_Call_Office = > Private_Branch_Exchange = TK_Anlage, > - Display name (not number) of all callers presented > on an xterm to me. I'd hate to lose that. > > I'm in a city, so DSL cable length no problem, but if D.T. > were proposing to drop ISDN ? what happens to other people > way out in the country where DSL repeaters cant reach ? > > Independent of reader country:: > ISDN for BSD was developed largely in Germany, If ISDN > supplier D.T. were to remove ISDN service some places, it > might affect developers ? ( I'm still running ISDN on > FreeBSD-6 as latest patches on 9-current I've not tried > yet, sorry). > > The other way to retain a named text caller ID from incoming > number, is for me to reconnect serial cable (still a use > for serial :-) to my Istec-1008 ( /usr/ports/misc/estic ) > then like I did maybe a decade back with isdnd, hack estic > to look up name from numbers. > > But that Istec-1008 also needs ISDN, & very few if any other > PBX have ever had their serial protocol cracked, & a package > written like Istec hardware & Estic software. > If anyyone knows of other LCO / PBX / TK public source > packages I'd be interested. > > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com > Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, or HTML or base 64. > Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. -- <---------------------------------------------------------------> < Cologne Chip AG + The ISDN Chip Company! > < + > < Eintrachtstr. 113 + Phone: +49-221-9124-0 > < + Fax : +49-221-9124-100 > < 50668 Koeln + > < + Email: info@colognechip.com > < Germany + Web : www.colognechip.com > <---------------------------------------------------------------> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Hermann-Josef Kirschbaum Vertretungsberechtigter Vorstand: Dr. Michael Gude (Vorsitz), Joerg Ciesielski, Harald Schaefer, Klaus Winterscheidt Registergericht: Amtsgericht Koeln, HRB 33457 From owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 25 13:18:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA5A106566B for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E405A8FC21 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A2E71.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.46.113]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id oAPDHs4u056469; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:17:56 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAPDHrIx005416; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:17:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oAPDHcJO021575; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:17:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201011251317.oAPDHcJO021575@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Cologne Chip AG From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:08:05 +0100." <4CEE4395.3080705@colognechip.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:17:38 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deutsche Telekom termination of T-ISDN Mehrgeraeteanschluss Standard X-BeenThere: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using ISDN with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:18:06 -0000 > For addition information please refer to the announcement of this step > of DT (in April last year): > http://www.teltarif.de/telekom-isdn-komfort-kuendigung/news/34001.html > (in German language only) > > Best regards, > > Harald Schaefer Thanks Harald, will do. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, or HTML or base 64. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. From owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 25 20:26:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBBE106567A for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 20:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oskar@fessel.org) Received: from smtp2.dokom.net (smtp2.dokom.net [85.22.54.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD598FC12 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 20:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from p5de492d5.dip.t-dialin.net ([93.228.146.213] helo=[192.168.1.9]) by smtp2.dokom.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1PLi5w-0003sn-FA; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 21:07:04 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jan-Hinrich Fessel In-Reply-To: <4CEE4395.3080705@colognechip.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 21:07:03 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <719E122E-CEAA-4193-9E36-2C553497AEB0@fessel.org> References: <201011241938.oAOJcb3x036939@fire.js.berklix.net> <4CEE4395.3080705@colognechip.com> To: isdn@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: Jan-Hinrich Fessel , "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: Deutsche Telekom termination of T-ISDN Mehrgeraeteanschluss Standard X-BeenThere: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using ISDN with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 20:26:40 -0000 Am 25.11.2010 um 12:08 schrieb Cologne Chip AG: > Dear Julian, >=20 > it is a misinterpretation of the letter that you have received, that = Deutsche Telekom (DT) intends to terminate the ISDN service. This is correct. DT is not going to drop ISDN in the near future. But, = depending on your area, you may sooner or later get voice substituted by = VOIP technology. This may not affect your ISDN b channels, but you will = not be able to use the d channel for anything else than call setup and = termination. Especially, if you are currently using X.31 over the d = channel, this will cease to work. If you go for call&surf, make sure you get it with ISDN, not the cheaper = ones with VOIP or POTS. Cheers Oskar From owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 26 15:37:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959FA106564A for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from is@beverly.kleinbus.org) Received: from tahidromio.beverly.kleinbus.org (tahidromio.beverly.kleinbus.org [IPv6:2001:1a50:5031:77::25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D298FC12 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by beverly.kleinbus.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id B6109207E1; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:37:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:37:19 +0100 From: Ignatios Souvatzis To: isdn@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101126153719.GC16482@beverly.kleinbus.org> References: <201011241938.oAOJcb3x036939@fire.js.berklix.net> <4CEE4395.3080705@colognechip.com> <719E122E-CEAA-4193-9E36-2C553497AEB0@fessel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <719E122E-CEAA-4193-9E36-2C553497AEB0@fessel.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: Re: Deutsche Telekom termination of T-ISDN Mehrgeraeteanschluss Standard X-BeenThere: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using ISDN with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:37:27 -0000 Hi, On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:07:03PM +0100, Jan-Hinrich Fessel wrote: > > Am 25.11.2010 um 12:08 schrieb Cologne Chip AG: > > > Dear Julian, > > > > it is a misinterpretation of the letter that you have received, > > that Deutsche Telekom (DT) intends to terminate the ISDN service. > > This is correct. DT is not going to drop ISDN in the near future. > But, depending on your area, you may sooner or later get voice > substituted by VOIP technology. This may not affect your ISDN b > channels, but you will not be able to use the d channel for anything > else than call setup and termination. Especially, if you are > currently using X.31 over the d channel, this will cease to work. > > If you go for call&surf, make sure you get it with ISDN, not the > cheaper ones with VOIP or POTS. I worry more about the access to other IP over DSL providers via DT's DSL concentrator network. The "Leistungsbeschreibung Call & Surf Basic (4.1)/Universal." only mentions IPv4 access, nothing else. -is From owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 27 03:26:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D1D106564A for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 03:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295098FC15 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 03:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so2480272bwz.13 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:26:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WxRcrKX+O9nvOJvxte9gzuLkO5dbrVFmLKNUyrv7vMc=; b=RE7aTSbrf2sia6d05wDrsRM+HyUgOo2MUK+S1bYhhTH3p7yuGJXA+Xj459J1ZchJwA 27JMpCjjzr2kYInphDb5gcTocFEkzV021StfoTE8e/7oADfB8pCNfBUyzuxJ342F0m1i 36n5QFLWCw2wyuDR1ATJAr6/Lngn7xC9Mrv9o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o8G4W//Oh/kLZHwki+5GbmhlU7Z74Ocbb280zoXSvUzPd392kLSNRnkg9jfyZ7Hl12 NOjAykHNaxgWwj8KHgTkGqT0Gglzr3PcALpih+WuAqaR63m7zp+HidT3KZP2godsXRk6 jGlUdLmFkacyCbp0J6bRC2JPukvCUFooc6TVk= Received: by 10.204.65.207 with SMTP id k15mr2622798bki.61.1290827020762; Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ernst.jennejohn.org (p578E371B.dip.t-dialin.net [87.142.55.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t10sm767138bkj.4.2010.11.26.19.03.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:03:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 04:03:35 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101127040335.5834aa4f@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20101126153719.GC16482@beverly.kleinbus.org> References: <201011241938.oAOJcb3x036939@fire.js.berklix.net> <4CEE4395.3080705@colognechip.com> <719E122E-CEAA-4193-9E36-2C553497AEB0@fessel.org> <20101126153719.GC16482@beverly.kleinbus.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.18.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Deutsche Telekom termination of T-ISDN Mehrgeraeteanschluss Standard X-BeenThere: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gljennjohn@googlemail.com List-Id: Using ISDN with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 03:26:25 -0000 On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:37:19 +0100 Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:07:03PM +0100, Jan-Hinrich Fessel wrote: > > > > Am 25.11.2010 um 12:08 schrieb Cologne Chip AG: > > > > > Dear Julian, > > > > > > it is a misinterpretation of the letter that you have received, > > > that Deutsche Telekom (DT) intends to terminate the ISDN service. > > > > This is correct. DT is not going to drop ISDN in the near future. > > But, depending on your area, you may sooner or later get voice > > substituted by VOIP technology. This may not affect your ISDN b > > channels, but you will not be able to use the d channel for anything > > else than call setup and termination. Especially, if you are > > currently using X.31 over the d channel, this will cease to work. > > > > If you go for call&surf, make sure you get it with ISDN, not the > > cheaper ones with VOIP or POTS. > > I worry more about the access to other IP over DSL providers via > DT's DSL concentrator network. The "Leistungsbeschreibung Call & > Surf Basic (4.1)/Universal." only mentions IPv4 access, nothing > else. > I doubt that the regulatory agency would allow DT to stop access to their DSLAMs for other providers. I also doubt that DT would get away with blocking IPv6 running over their networks. The Bundesnetzagentur would come down on them like a ton of bricks. AFAIK DT is "studying" the implementation of IPv6. They've "studying" that for a long time now. Apparently, DT has enough IPv4 addresses to handle their needs for the foreseeable future and aren't in any hurry. -- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 27 09:53:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB8F1065670 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 09:53:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from is@beverly.kleinbus.org) Received: from tahidromio.beverly.kleinbus.org (tahidromio.beverly.kleinbus.org [IPv6:2001:1a50:5031:77::25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209F08FC14 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 09:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by beverly.kleinbus.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id A9D53207E1; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:52:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:52:53 +0100 From: is@netbsd.org Cc: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101127095253.GD16482@beverly.kleinbus.org> References: <201011241938.oAOJcb3x036939@fire.js.berklix.net> <4CEE4395.3080705@colognechip.com> <719E122E-CEAA-4193-9E36-2C553497AEB0@fessel.org> <20101126153719.GC16482@beverly.kleinbus.org> <20101127040335.5834aa4f@ernst.jennejohn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101127040335.5834aa4f@ernst.jennejohn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Deutsche Telekom termination of T-ISDN Mehrgeraeteanschluss Standard X-BeenThere: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using ISDN with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 09:53:01 -0000 On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 04:03:35AM +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > AFAIK DT is "studying" the implementation of IPv6. They've "studying" > that for a long time now. Apparently, DT has enough IPv4 addresses to > handle their needs for the foreseeable future and aren't in any hurry. Uhm, they announced the Alpha test; they announced a Beta for next year and production for private costumers by end fo next year, I think. -is From owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 27 12:17:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B333106566B for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 12:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C438FC16 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 12:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so2692635bwz.13 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 04:17:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zjElX332ITWEU39E9kvMnfzOLVrCI3x0J0yVsRoMlGs=; b=g+q+MSq8a5WpACjHBlGT2wd7b9B+EZfccLMFRWWOEu3EAiGUEmes2eIVyZfTwsYNay /7wkLfwL9D8aFp0QeDHlqImLWy0Fjuxu1L6FP9qxPxisS4D3BwSIa8nOMQHO0zx3sUNf bgowlfjEvY12T1XxrzOHt3ueRiLsMnZQVAOCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JTDc1bB0kLAmtM+KZFapUvGtfyaA3fmTQFLc8c97+ydSgL+5WhH0WZ6snSxveX8XNT lgY15l1V0ctIKNFd0O5aFwdNIBl37CvdxcVrf7tQQLz+Vjpu8heWxFluk4wtXWh/pvEx 5EjDohUeIu5J/Of/lfdD/lEJxwBn8OOihDNCU= Received: by 10.204.116.201 with SMTP id n9mr2902664bkq.138.1290860248795; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 04:17:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ernst.jennejohn.org (p578E3278.dip.t-dialin.net [87.142.50.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b17sm951007bku.20.2010.11.27.04.17.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 27 Nov 2010 04:17:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:17:21 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101127131721.57679d69@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20101127095253.GD16482@beverly.kleinbus.org> References: <201011241938.oAOJcb3x036939@fire.js.berklix.net> <4CEE4395.3080705@colognechip.com> <719E122E-CEAA-4193-9E36-2C553497AEB0@fessel.org> <20101126153719.GC16482@beverly.kleinbus.org> <20101127040335.5834aa4f@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20101127095253.GD16482@beverly.kleinbus.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.18.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Deutsche Telekom termination of T-ISDN Mehrgeraeteanschluss Standard X-BeenThere: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gljennjohn@googlemail.com List-Id: Using ISDN with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 12:17:30 -0000 On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:52:53 +0100 is@netbsd.org wrote: > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 04:03:35AM +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > > AFAIK DT is "studying" the implementation of IPv6. They've "studying" > > that for a long time now. Apparently, DT has enough IPv4 addresses to > > handle their needs for the foreseeable future and aren't in any hurry. > > Uhm, they announced the Alpha test; they announced a Beta for next year > and production for private costumers by end fo next year, I think. > I'll believe it when I see it. -- Gary Jennejohn