From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 00:02:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E988A106564A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtp1.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A110D8FC08 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22526 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2010 16:58:25 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 22509, pid: 22510, t: 2.5568s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on smtp1.surewest.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=13.5 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb X-Spam-CMAE-Analysis: _CMAETAG_ Received: from unknown (HELO blacklamb.mykitchentable.net) (69.62.230.77) by smtp1 with SMTP; 3 Apr 2010 16:58:22 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.2.3]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 67FBE1666E9; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:02:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=mykitchentable.net; s=default; t=1270339357; bh=JI1MdsLP2M2vUFzMa4ZDEcNFq9x8pxPw347dHG90Kg4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uvJEhwxa+A/4UIOGAClpjEv8AmwWppcI9NVppM3wcM4rGZI9Rx6SRAyRi/FvC4Lt2 hR7BtQcmWv4heDuRnlfFMiwAbZXHxcgAXyD2ldLSyv1i9ULwnaK46JCUlLMCrDZWp3 VPs16LG1yBpYnE3PI/AE3g0mb25qLdiTUS/F08xM= Message-ID: <4BB7D6FA.8020203@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 17:02:02 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GUILLE Larrazabal References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100403-1, 04/03/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: On an iMac X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 00:02:42 -0000 GUILLE Larrazabal wrote: > Dears Sirs: I would like to ask you, wether I can install this OS on a Imac with Intel Core 2 duo 2,66 Proccesor, so that I can have this OS running. > > Another question I have is also I can install this FreeBSD on a Laptop,for example a HP Pavillion running Window 7. > I will be grateful if you can tell me what to do.Thank you very much. > Your answers are here: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ Cheers, Drew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 00:27:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F62106566C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nekoexmachina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2498FC12 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so2087689fxm.13 for ; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 17:27:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=WUxz/SIWTNLOeG661QV/M7SNZahJFmcXmMKv2rxgJWg=; b=gKBpVXENZlJV43dxNLeDvqYVDMcFTiX83IsJwrllI92PUu4cnzrYvXQeMViC4tzFrV TYncBIbM/GBNYwg3OSyO1gpsL/nvss2gCRWC/dWUjhn5GNEi28iC4/QCi6FiFjENCmYO 1ILnajZ4mK7eK/0mhl48rIoxqe7bMvtsLHzwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=N6PprEe51/Gmf+ewAAHVHDUTPY0aboShlTWsnUTQPBJw3h0c/p2e8eFqGb7E7k6jMn kX6FMJri347NTssA9DsLtA3CE/L8hGJ0fwUJq7cdm6wdRxCxj4/6BmYoVtbg1ULkYPJs eAWg/EfphsL2YpcI29aFUYH6C7KLcuYP7R7q0= Received: by 10.223.92.155 with SMTP id r27mr3846415fam.7.1270340870042; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 17:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([188.134.12.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b17sm23336367fka.43.2010.04.03.17.27.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 03 Apr 2010 17:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 04:26:19 +0400 From: Mikle To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100404002619.GA1178@takino.homeftp.org> References: <20100403224811.GA47115@takino.homeftp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100403224811.GA47115@takino.homeftp.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: CyberShot DSC-S40 and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 00:27:51 -0000 On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 02:48:11AM +0400, Mikle wrote: > Hello, list! > Is anyone here using CyberShot DSC-S40 with FreeBSD? > It's pretty old camera. When i plug it in my BSD desktop, nothing happens - e.g., even no dmesg messages. Also, gphoto2 gui (gtkam) tells me 'no cameras detected' when i try to detect it. > As i understand, i need some specific kernel module (via google i've found that that's umass, which i have compiled-in in my kernel) > What could i do to detect what has happend? > > Wbr, Disregard that, it was pretty strange umass problem: i had forcibly unplugged my flash card (forgot to umount it), and after that no new usb devices have been detected. (could anyone reproduce it? I'm running pretty-recent 8-STABLE, update was about couple of weeks ago) Now, dmesg tells me: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 30MB (63424 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 30C) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 f7 bf 0 0 1 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: MEDIUM ERROR asc:11,0 (Unrecovered read error) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 f7 bf 0 0 1 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack As i understand dmesg, there is a medium-not-present error - so, it complains on the lack of memstick inside my cam - but i've got it's internal 30MBs, can i somehow reach them? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 04:07:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799CA106564A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 04:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35F08FC08 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 04:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net ([74.205.51.45] helo=v101.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NyH7b-000EE7-Fc; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 00:07:44 -0400 Message-ID: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 00:07:38 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 04:07:48 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gary Kline wrote: > guys, > > i'm finally trying to get my private scripts and binaries in > ~/bin in order. several of my perl scripts were meant to be > throwaway ... but a few seem to be more useful and i would have > to have informational or usage{} type messages. > > if a .pl script has to have at least one arg, is there an easy > way to do that? can i have a perl fn called usage() that would > be fed various strings? > > tia, > > gary > > > Hi Gary, Check out this Perl module that builds on Getopt::Long, but also includes support for echoing usage messages for each option: http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/Getopt-Long-Descriptive-0.085/lib/Getopt/Long/Descriptive.pm Hope that helps, Greg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku4EIoACgkQ0sRouByUApCXNgCgrLt1v3rV2+AjfxXMT1ew3GhE pZIAn0P5O7L5koQflkiQOuoTA+75POOe =Cyq4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 06:16:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C54106566B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 06:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164C98FC17 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 06:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E18E10E77C; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:18:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6e7c7+d1owz9; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:18:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www.eskk.nu (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F42810E50A; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:18:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 78.70.46.42 (SquirrelMail authenticated user leslie) by www.eskk.nu with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:18:23 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:18:23 +0200 From: "Leslie Jensen" To: "S Roberts" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20-RC2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 06:16:11 -0000 You can read this tread: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html /Leslie > Hello, > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to where I > can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 pre-installed > machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, please? > > Any assistance is appreciated. > > Thanks. > > Regards, > > S Roberts > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 07:02:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29DF106564A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 07:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 532558FC22 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 07:02:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 92290 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Apr 2010 07:02:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1270364567; bh=cb3XE7eAUze8KmbdmfuerHun+2QreTtClfbp1RHs8Bc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X57Q1V+zJHSDHxiHsX9vqJDFpF8RMtsLb4ihD/Tl/H+D1/r5ge5GkOaf2Ywp3s/sHScUHlywcuUCBfVoIcl0BCcFreBJ0toEs9OyzsU62YIoQdE2UQzCxLGG/5J1XBYnJa6IbG2okvEJTMqfqILifOFkku487IXjEzylid6vRHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KpmelVM4EpPAj+2IOjOwC5x28Sk5r7b7Wm8PhWG4XlrbMf2QEENO00w38hxZY1ARqrWcS3frYSGppt10EMHScUBCFDjIZzKMfF11dZEztAdBiavqtJ3jYp4DKiPZqOktHMF2v2nmgMBVjQTValyNlFpz/GGVU00ABTlqoJp7uBE=; Message-ID: <614718.91632.qm@web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: R7npcWkVM1n40ktJerkCkIQjysGNJzjRFvcpP.l1tIRKplv mJF0khyUiK1YxmxBBF4oRYUHiEE1l5SbVCjfw1vYMM6nKjyqpoODfAi1Odyn GWkTwwReINqRi.5zbIsaE3JSvntSZjzaB.pRhs2oaDcSA2kNKKPktPEaTjK1 tcMSX1d8Y_kuHvZjjOqxNp4azyBSXUyTCTaMakJMYZcVZM3mBrkh3P6_A2V0 Twsh69asqNM934iJaavfHbPa5JUFiVtWrpBdCkJRhVDZzjHLN8v1om37nadg bHIDX0zdhlNLlLkbOMhcrwh1Xvb5AnOZQPtj50D666WnOjoi.cOczPA-- Received: from [98.169.0.45] by web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 00:02:47 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:02:47 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: free bsd , freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: samba failed MD5 Checksum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:02:48 -0000 Hi all: I am trying to compile the smaba34 but somehow it failed MD5 Checksum and SHA256 Checksum: -------------------------------------------------------- # make all ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Found saved configuration for samba34-3.4.5_1 ===> ------------------------------------------- ===> Run 'make config' to (re)configure the port ===> ------------------------------------------- ===> Extracting for samba34-3.4.5_1 => MD5 Checksum mismatch for samba-3.4.5.tar.gz. => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for samba-3.4.5.tar.gz. ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: samba-3.4.5.tar.gz samba-3.4.5.tar.gz ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Found saved configuration for samba34-3.4.5_1 ===> ------------------------------------------- ===> Run 'make config' to (re)configure the port ===> ------------------------------------------- => samba-3.4.5.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. .... --------------------------------------------------------------------- actually "samba-3.4.5.tar.gz" does exist under /usr/ports/distfiles how could I fix this problem? I am using 7.2-p7... Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 07:59:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BB5106564A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 07:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@rhavenn.net) Received: from smtp144.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp144.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B6E8FC0C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 07:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5652A10CBED5 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 03:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay4.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rhavenn-AT-rhavenn.net) with ESMTPSA id 359AD10CBECC for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 03:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by alucard.rhavenn.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CCC593F06; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 23:59:36 -0800 (AKDT) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 23:59:36 -0800 From: Henrik Hudson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100404075936.GA37292@alucard.int.rhavenn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: network card issue; constantly up / down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:59:44 -0000 Hey List, I just re-installed FreeBSD 8-stable on my laptop and everytime I have network traffic, even something as innocuous as a ssh shell with a large section of scrolling text, the interface keeps flapping up and down. I've had FreeBSD 8 installed on here before and I don't remember it doing that, but I could be mistaken. However, I just noticed it again. I was running Gentoo and it had no issue. os install: freebsd8-stable i386 (from 4/2/2010) kernel: generic with snd_hda, pf sections and atapicam added /var/log/message shows: Apr 3 23:45:23 alucard kernel: ed0: link state changed to DOWN Apr 3 23:45:25 alucard kernel: ed0: link state changed to UP Apr 3 23:45:28 alucard kernel: ed0: link state changed to DOWN Apr 3 23:45:30 alucard kernel: ed0: link state changed to UP Apr 3 23:45:36 alucard kernel: ed0: link state changed to DOWN Apr 3 23:45:38 alucard kernel: ed0: link state changed to UP ..... ad nauseum It's using a PCMCIA PC-card because I jacked the pins on my built-in ethernet device. pciconf -v: cbb0@pci0:8:6:0: class=0x060700 card=0x30a5103c chip=0x8039104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x02 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = 'PCIxx12 Cardbus Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-CardBus dmesg for the ethernet device: ed0: at port 0x100-0x11f irq 18 function 0 config 16 on pccard0 ed0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface ed0: Ethernet address: 00:04:5a:a1:59:c3 miibus1: on ed0 nsphyter0: PHY 5 on miibus1 nsphyter0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto ed0: [ITHREAD] Is the "using obsoleted if_watchdog interface" something that should really be worried about? Is this a driver issue with the card or the cardbus controller? Any tweaks to sysctly or anything else specific I could try? Any more info needed? Thanks. Henrik -- Henrik Hudson lists@rhavenn.net ----------------------------------------- "God, root, what is difference?" Pitr; UF From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 08:06:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B373F106566B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pluknet@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410BB8FC14 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2385190bwz.3 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 01:06:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ez2qZb9mQwgE0MH7PmnJdeyg8oKJsJPl7vhpmYnt4ME=; b=Llj5SqRx6StvDeewhzhYUHRtL4QCK9sCjKr0mTDVqbGw+o3mraEnSMcXhBzn3n1JY4 rD/CTDUmTAbow+X0fskSnlUM4GsxfZjZh3tghUambArTBrLCEKwhwChuHqTc8E6OJ4oL IfUyTgM30N/xpqvZ+iRCb85OXIqJLKEVswP3I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UbWNiNTmvoMeyLACJ4oc7TnQX78cxppOUDwnCXHForHVBtAnsiBPF2sQ8z3MREPOUc /f1E6b95rOYg0dQ9vva1IAVSQEs5H+ccDIE6ePapsQV11ofyXA9d2u2ii3tzfPDelKaI kOu2i4UuFPwPuFn8tNPdRn95XotGkkQO/XGJY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.47.232 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:41:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <614718.91632.qm@web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <614718.91632.qm@web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:41:22 +0400 Received: by 10.204.138.219 with SMTP id b27mr5065085bku.139.1270366883001; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 00:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: pluknet To: gahn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: free bsd , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: samba failed MD5 Checksum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:06:16 -0000 On 4 April 2010 11:02, gahn wrote: > Hi all: > > I am trying to compile the smaba34 but somehow it failed MD5 Checksum and= SHA256 Checksum: > > -------------------------------------------------------- > # make all > =3D=3D=3D> =A0Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > =3D=3D=3D> =A0Found saved configuration for samba34-3.4.5_1 > =3D=3D=3D> =A0------------------------------------------- > =3D=3D=3D> =A0Run 'make config' to (re)configure the port > =3D=3D=3D> =A0------------------------------------------- > =3D=3D=3D> =A0Extracting for samba34-3.4.5_1 > =3D> MD5 Checksum mismatch for samba-3.4.5.tar.gz. > =3D> SHA256 Checksum mismatch for samba-3.4.5.tar.gz. > =3D=3D=3D> =A0Refetch for 1 more times files: samba-3.4.5.tar.gz samba-3.= 4.5.tar.gz > =3D=3D=3D> =A0Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > =3D=3D=3D> =A0Found saved configuration for samba34-3.4.5_1 > =3D=3D=3D> =A0------------------------------------------- > =3D=3D=3D> =A0Run 'make config' to (re)configure the port > =3D=3D=3D> =A0------------------------------------------- > =3D> samba-3.4.5.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > .... > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > actually "samba-3.4.5.tar.gz" does exist under /usr/ports/distfiles > Looks like you have partially fetched distfile. Try to make distclean, then restart again. --=20 wbr, pluknet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 08:14:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5E9106564A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:679::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C8E8FC13 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7697C400C; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:14:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon.cran.org.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from core.draftnet (87-194-158-129.bethere.co.uk [87.194.158.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:14:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Bruce Cran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:14:02 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.1 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.4.1; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004040914.02120.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim Subject: Re: make delete-old question (removing old binaries) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:14:07 -0000 On Saturday 03 April 2010 11:04:37 Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've rebuild my world with NO_MAIL (in src.conf) and a few other NO_ > options however I noticed that related binaries are not removed > entirely i.e. mailwrapper when I ran make delete-old / > delete-old-libs. I can see that the old binaries have a timestamp > older than the binaries rebuilt by the make world process. > > [anggerik:/usr/sbin]# ls -l mailwrapper > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7808 Nov 21 22:31 mailwrapper > [anggerik:/usr/sbin]# ls -l trac > traceroute* traceroute6* > [anggerik:/usr/sbin]# ls -l traceroute > -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 28240 Apr 3 08:54 traceroute > > Is this simply a cosmetic issue and I can just remove those binaries > manually or if not so, is there a special configs needed to remove > them. > > Apologize if this question has been asked before. You should be using WITHOUT_ versions of the options - see src.conf(5). Files won't be removed unless they're listed in ObsoleteFiles.inc, and it's typically not been kept up-to-date. This is being fixed in -CURRENT but for just now you can remove the binaries manually. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 08:37:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07C4106566B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremie@le-hen.org) Received: from smtpfb1-g21.free.fr (smtpfb1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEE28FC1D for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by smtpfb1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D35E77CB29 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:20:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8188F9400DE; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:20:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from endor.tataz.chchile.org (tataz.chchile.org [82.233.239.98]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30D1940148; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:20:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from felucia.tataz.chchile.org (felucia.tataz.chchile.org [192.168.1.9]) by endor.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1073033E4E; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by felucia.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E2DC0A1122; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:20:33 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: jeremie@le-hen.org Subject: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:37:54 -0000 Hi, --->> Please Cc: me when replying, I'm not subscribed. <<--- I plan to purchase a Zotac motherboard with a embedded ATOM processor. It uses an NVidia chipset. http://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-ionitx-f-e-atom-n330-1-6ghz-dual-core-mini-itx-intel-motherboard.html My intent is to build a small NAS with ZFS and NFS/CIFS. I'd like to know if anyone successfully ran FreeBSD on this motherboard and what performance could be achieved, especially if ZFS is used. I checked the archives without luck. Thanks! -- Jeremie Le Hen Humans are born free and equal. But some are more equal than others. -Coluche From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 09:01:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30448106566C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20638FC0A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.47.0.250] (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o3491rEs076276; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 02:01:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Thought Unlimited Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 02:01:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kline@thought.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:01:58 -0000 On Sun, 2010-04-04 at 00:07 -0400, Greg Larkin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Gary Kline wrote: > > guys, > > > > i'm finally trying to get my private scripts and binaries in > > ~/bin in order. several of my perl scripts were meant to be > > throwaway ... but a few seem to be more useful and i would have > > to have informational or usage{} type messages. > > > > if a .pl script has to have at least one arg, is there an easy > > way to do that? can i have a perl fn called usage() that would > > be fed various strings? > > > > tia, > > > > gary > > > > > > > > Hi Gary, > > Check out this Perl module that builds on Getopt::Long, but also > includes support for echoing usage messages for each option: > http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/Getopt-Long-Descriptive-0.085/lib/Getopt/Long/Descriptive.pm > > Hope that helps, > Greg thanks for your url as well and the others to posted. but it seems like overkill since i dont need any explicit option or argument. i just need the script to tell me whether i have an arg or not. following is something i've kept in one of my junk drawers from when i was learning to write bourne sscripts. it uses the "$[token]" syntax that determines whether there are Any args on the cmdline. if not, the script prints a message and exits. #!/bin/sh if [ $# -eq 0 ] then echo "No args; need filename." else echo "$1" fi After a couple hours experimentation, the following does the same for my perl scripts: #!/usr/bin/perl $argc = @ARGV; if (! $argc ) { printf("No args; need filename.\n"); } else { printf("%s\n", @ARGV); } gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 09:37:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4907106564A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from doppler.zen.co.uk (doppler.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371EE8FC0A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:37:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.23.3.142] (helo=smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk) by doppler.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NyM2N-0002Ip-UJ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:22:36 +0000 Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=localhost.vickiandstacey.com) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NyM2L-0008Pp-9e; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:22:33 +0000 Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com (localhost.vickiandstacey.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o349MSeo002830; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:22:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from sroberts@localhost.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from sroberts@localhost) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id o349MRTH002829; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:22:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from sroberts) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:22:27 +0100 From: Stacey Roberts To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Mail-Followup-To: Leslie Jensen , S Roberts , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , S Roberts Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:37:42 -0000 Hello Leslie, Good to hear from you.., On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html > > /Leslie > I had a look at the thread - thanks.., The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually states that it supports windows 7. Or, am I missing something? I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers to a document that is based on windows vista, but will review this as well. Thanks! Regards, S Roberts > > > > > Hello, > > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to where I > > can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 pre-installed > > machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, please? > > > > Any assistance is appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > > > S Roberts > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 09:49:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE43106566B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:20c:29ff:fece:79f3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAE98FC0C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:49:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:ac84:6764:aad2:9e9] (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:ac84:6764:aad2:9e9]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 21CE77B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:49:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BB860B3.7020402@stillbilde.net> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:49:39 +0200 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> In-Reply-To: <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEC559459B316489728687EB0" Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:49:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEC559459B316489728687EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04.04.2010 11:22, Stacey Roberts wrote: > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its > compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually states th= at it > supports windows 7. >=20 > Or, am I missing something? BCD was the boot mechanism introduced with Vista and Server 2008, and continued in Windows 7 (actually 6.1) and Server 2008r2. //Svein --=20 --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg =D8stli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------enigEC559459B316489728687EB0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAku4YLcACgkQODUnwSLUlKQ7JwCfRmAs+aD4ma4fJFG6NVyzu7eZ tRgAmwTxERojAPpWA5WK++KMFz1r8kyx =e0jU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigEC559459B316489728687EB0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 11:35:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A24106564A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58ED78FC14 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=localhost.vickiandstacey.com) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NyO6p-0000aM-4v; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:35:19 +0000 Received: from localhost.vickiandstacey.com (localhost.vickiandstacey.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o34BZDcG003271; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:35:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from sroberts@localhost.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from sroberts@localhost) by localhost.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id o34BZCOF003270; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:35:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from sroberts) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:35:11 +0100 From: Stacey Roberts To: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" Message-ID: <20100404113511.GB2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <4BB860B3.7020402@stillbilde.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4BB860B3.7020402@stillbilde.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:35:21 -0000 --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Svein, Good to hear from you.., On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Svein Skogen (Listmail Account) wrote: > On 04.04.2010 11:22, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its > > compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually states th= at it > > supports windows 7. > >=20 > > Or, am I missing something? >=20 > BCD was the boot mechanism introduced with Vista and Server 2008, and > continued in Windows 7 (actually 6.1) and Server 2008r2. >=20 Ahh.., Understood. Thank so much for that.., Regards, S Roberts > //Svein >=20 > --=20 > --------+-------------------+------------------------------- > /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no > \ / |Solberg =D8stli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 > X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no > / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 > | | svein@stillbilde.net > ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 > ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net > Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 > +-------------------+------------------------------- > |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 > |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE > --------+-------------------+------------------------------- > If you really are in a hurry, mail me at > svein-mobile@stillbilde.net > This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked > even when I'm not in front of my computer. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Picture Gallery: > https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ > ------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQEVAwUBS7h5bdetyy/wI4UpAQH6PwgArOxqCyMtNtTTOLESSgcbIslX1eq8fOCj pT5bXI1x2nb2IcfwCY0s+AfAVvIJNEz09kjrBzMDBiLA72WD+GSKoYb3Bm4Ot6d5 99I93swtLB6W0IxBqGIhF5cWy0/tV4B5/z8Q0X7wIAT4YFUlkRsYeCbreiYXoY/Y pLgOdBEGJ2xfe7+kBPBc+ZjI9wo6TPdiAGLAppvMyyECYcic0l7Vl+hC5QJJ+nSC aYwD/pueQfjCTnBVx4dMxEeYBZwF1GrN0n2h4spDUPpWI3kEiBPb59uieKbd94Dp ohrKkv0Pf2+Z7v75o6OgKX60SjOOvhRQ9fcZCByRN2HNtFBay6cIzA== =+M14 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 12:35:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC48106566C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BDC8FC0A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1141980qwe.7 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 05:35:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.218.137 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 05:35:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100404002619.GA1178@takino.homeftp.org> References: <20100403224811.GA47115@takino.homeftp.org> <20100404002619.GA1178@takino.homeftp.org> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:35:38 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 83681b098f9e1c3c Received: by 10.229.192.10 with SMTP id do10mr7458464qcb.48.1270384538978; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 05:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Mikle Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CyberShot DSC-S40 and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:35:40 -0000 On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Mikle wrote: > On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 02:48:11AM +0400, Mikle wrote: [...] > > Disregard that, it was pretty strange umass problem: i had forcibly unplu= gged my flash card (forgot to umount it), and after that no new usb devices= have been detected. (could anyone reproduce it? I'm running pretty-recent = 8-STABLE, update was about couple of weeks ago) > > Now, dmesg tells me: > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device [...] Maybe it's not related but if you are running Gnome, try disabling HAL and then see if you can mount it. See this thread "xptioctl pass driver usb scsi driver problem (solved)" Best, Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 13:01:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307AB106566B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nekoexmachina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7DF8FC16 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so2248658fxm.13 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 06:01:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=GOwYfD0brqFGWwwWp/z2nK4i71TWtu019Okd1wgtzes=; b=n+r/hm/MTyt/uJTTXhU1an9bPIUhMnOU8LmoYytwjsjAcNacgvn44F/ktY7dbJ+YSG Sxp9yipb5aLgQyFNyAKm/2Ed+rOJPGtq7R7ql0BhVQBYp4HF/cCda8/6VIR+9oecUlLb GwlhAY5odhfqO39hg2g3VffSCYoyWsI11CmQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=rEmooXGCsp0bDQUjSXm8p1RXuVdBYWdZ0P0pdgwNjMWok10bh1CjfQEe7pBKhoideZ fuzwVvWwRn363NGq45SbUL2hMrizSdECEhWbqaL/A3Fq2g+/qwNeOBuHwIam+kNM9IIB 9ialePkvywqA9FKFuQb7wnnqSmKd8b1w/G+Hc= Received: by 10.223.63.138 with SMTP id b10mr4416696fai.95.1270386077481; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 06:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([188.134.12.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm10607305fks.12.2010.04.04.06.01.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 04 Apr 2010 06:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:59:46 +0400 From: Mikle To: Alejandro Imass Message-ID: <20100404125946.GA9116@takino.homeftp.org> References: <20100403224811.GA47115@takino.homeftp.org> <20100404002619.GA1178@takino.homeftp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CyberShot DSC-S40 and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:01:19 -0000 On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 08:35:38AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > Maybe it's not related but if you are running Gnome, try disabling HAL > and then see if you can mount it. > > See this thread "xptioctl pass driver usb scsi driver problem (solved)" > > Best, > Alejandro Imass Thank you for the reply. On this pc i have no hal and no other auto-mounter software. Wbr, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 13:11:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818AA1065672 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:11:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356B18FC15 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP98 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 4 Apr 2010 06:11:50 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.160.65] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.160.65]) by BLU0-SMTP98.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 4 Apr 2010 06:11:49 -0700 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5761A22830 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:11:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:11:47 -0400 From: Carmel NY To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2010 13:11:49.0411 (UTC) FILETIME=[62A98F30:01CAD3F8] Subject: Configuring IPFW IP range X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:11:51 -0000 This is my first attempt at configuring IPFW. I have it up and running; however, I am not quite sure how to accomplish configuring it to block an IP range. Assume an IP range: 219.128.0.0 to 219.137.255.255 That is an actual range: CHINANET Guangdong province network I want to block the entire range. I am not sure how to do it in IPFW. I have read the 'man' pages; however, I am not getting the syntax correct since I cannot get the range added. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | Slurm, n.: The slime that accumulates on the underside of a soap bar when it sits in the dish too long. Rich Hall, "Sniglets" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 15:15:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A09106564A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: from mail.suszko.eu (suszko.eu [174.136.96.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE2A8FC0A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oxygen.suszko.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.suszko.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC443F561; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:53:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new using ClamaAV Received: from arsenic (host-89-228-110-179.olsztyn.mm.pl [89.228.110.179]) by mail.suszko.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5FD7E3F450; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:56:37 +0200 From: Maciej Suszko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100404165637.2124e14f@arsenic> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/8mcI1Li_xtz0MiWz=Gt9Z6k"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: carmel_ny@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Configuring IPFW IP range X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:15:49 -0000 --Sig_/8mcI1Li_xtz0MiWz=Gt9Z6k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Carmel NY wrote: > This is my first attempt at configuring IPFW. I have it up and > running; however, I am not quite sure how to accomplish configuring > it to block an IP range. >=20 > Assume an IP range: 219.128.0.0 to 219.137.255.255 >=20 > That is an actual range: CHINANET Guangdong province network >=20 > I want to block the entire range. I am not sure how to do it in IPFW. > I have read the 'man' pages; however, I am not getting the syntax > correct since I cannot get the range added. #v+ tlhscd@arsenic:~ % ipcalc 219.128.0.0 - 219.137.255.255 deaggregate 219.128.0.0 - 219.137.255.255 219.128.0.0/13 219.136.0.0/15 #v- --=20 regards, Maciej Suszko. --Sig_/8mcI1Li_xtz0MiWz=Gt9Z6k Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku4qK0ACgkQCikUk0l7iGpuGQCfT33evN/V2FwbJlsfNLaZoW1b G4EAn3FrTU935RNXKsMAdmGPHrK/sYwC =Aoys -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/8mcI1Li_xtz0MiWz=Gt9Z6k-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 15:19:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335921065670 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ashley@cpufight.com) Received: from mailout01.c06.mtsvc.net (mailout01.c06.mtsvc.net [70.32.122.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158438FC19 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from n12.c06.mtsvc.net ([205.186.184.12]) by mailout01.c06.mtsvc.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyRRj-000239-TT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:09:07 -0700 Received: from c-71-206-217-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net ([71.206.217.73]:53157 helo=brie.homeunix.net) by n12.c06.mtsvc.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NyRRc-0005Se-Ss for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:09:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4BB8AA05.3010506@cpufight.com> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:02:29 -0400 From: Ashley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: 87125 ashley@cpufight.com X-Spam-Status: "score=3.1 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD version=3.2.4 cmae=v=1.0 c=1 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=fVE0JWLXyJjl1qoD4r2kNg==:17 a=l2FEF93ZAAAA:8 a=WjLnJsY2-T_nqLkHVrMA:9 a=9JnHffFkRp7GsZManuqOMHC-dqoA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 xcat=Undefined/Undefined" X-Spam-Level: *** Subject: Re: Configuring IPFW IP range X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:19:19 -0000 On 04/04/2010 09:11 AM, Carmel NY wrote: > This is my first attempt at configuring IPFW. I have it up and running; > however, I am not quite sure how to accomplish configuring it to block > an IP range. > > Assume an IP range: 219.128.0.0 to 219.137.255.255 > > That is an actual range: CHINANET Guangdong province network > > I want to block the entire range. I am not sure how to do it in IPFW. I > have read the 'man' pages; however, I am not getting the syntax correct > since I cannot get the range added. Carmel, Have you tried something like what's mentioned in this excerpt quoted below?: Network-based filtering works similarly, and the network notation there utilizes either bitmasks or netmasks, for instance: add 2000 allow all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any add 2100 deny all from any to 10.0.0.0:255.0.0.0 The first rule allows all traffic from the network whose IP range is 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255. It uses a bitmask to indicate this. A bitmask specifies how many bits from the network address (192.168.0.0) should remain the same for matching packets. In this instance, the first 16 bits out of the 32 bit address will remain the same, and as the first 16 bits happen to be the first two octets, 192.168, all addresses whose source addresses have the first two octets as 192.168 will be matched by this rule. The second rule accomplishes a similar thing using netmasks. The netmask indicate how many bits from the indicated network address should be used for rule matching. In the above example, for rule two, the netmask is 255.0.0.0. Its first octet is set with high bits; in other words, the first 8 bits are set high. This indicates to ipfw(8) that only packets with the first 8 bits of the network address (10.0.0.0) should be matched. As the first 8 bits of the network address equal 10, then all packets whose destination address have a 10 for the first octet (all addresses between 10.0.0.0 and 10.255.255.255) will be matched by this rule, and then dropped, as indicated by the action. (This excerpt from http://www.freebsd-howto.com/HOWTO/Ipfw-HOWTO) -- Ashley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 15:25:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B837F1065680 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049728FC24 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9C1935E52; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:25:03 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: kline@thought.org References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.4.8; tzolkin = 13 Lamat; haab = 1 Pop Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:25:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sun, 04 Apr 2010 02:01:53 -0700") Message-ID: <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: glarkin@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:25:06 -0000 >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Kline writes: Gary> #!/usr/bin/perl Gary> $argc = @ARGV; Gary> if (! $argc ) { Gary> printf("No args; need filename.\n"); Gary> } Gary> else { Gary> printf("%s\n", @ARGV); Gary> } Even simpler: if (@ARGV) { print "No args\n"; } else { print "arg is $ARGV[0]\n"; } If you're studying perl, you might want to join the very beginner-friendly mailing list, info at http://lists.perl.org/list/beginners.html, or start a conversation on perlmonks.org, also relatively beginner-friendly. And I'd recommend a couple of good books, but I might be seen as self-pimping. :) But if you look at http://learn.perl.org/ you'll see a number of other resources, including free tutorials online. print "Just another Perl hacker,"; # the original -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 15:28:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AF11065670 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:28:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9E68FC0A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F03F55E71; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:27:59 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: kline@thought.org References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.4.8; tzolkin = 13 Lamat; haab = 1 Pop Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:27:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> (Randal L. Schwartz's message of "Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:25:03 -0700") Message-ID: <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: glarkin@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:28:00 -0000 >>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz writes: Randal> Even simpler: Randal> if (@ARGV) { Randal> print "No args\n"; Randal> } else { Randal> print "arg is $ARGV[0]\n"; Randal> } Augh. I hit send just as I realized that's backwards. Need more caffiene. Swap the true and false blocks there. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 15:37:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257611065680; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comp.john@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFCF8FC18; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2524447bwz.3 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:37:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=KALNURrPVC+h3krIwCpgR8GlrUqLSlP2g6yNJFApwUo=; b=B4nedqGZRsUdJPW9F2Sy7C24RTC95tOcjawFR2eEqXuvJUHqOEoIIUxYSfWAVNCWEz gb0ApP3fMjBPbs8A1qd5mnvB/fANO6RYflQF9xt2I26ybuGaxsUnoHs4ZH5dlbMzGebw n/YHJ5wDtji/tDNgdPV3O1/+1yQirlKxdtULw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=OP0PO5ousRgEd38BrzakFT1FE/Le1qy0FL7Vn5kI6Ya2LwXINeILKRKzrmu3qeiIDD MbYU6sISOJG7piI5j0FwMkQO/tclqAK3L4shv9OpDmeWHRu9DG4shQ3bz9iEALVe+vd/ RUveg+uHzimzcl+cqsSJtgsJSjUiZ7BexnsV8= Received: by 10.204.133.129 with SMTP id f1mr5680138bkt.45.1270395431903; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from potato (potato.growveg.org [62.49.247.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5sm97459479bkd.1.2010.04.04.08.37.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:33:47 +0100 From: John To: krad Message-ID: <20100404153347.GA40823@potato> References: <6201873e1003290731x148a2415q5113feb8a0479d4b@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e1003290739t588ae242gef92d14e9d889749@mail.gmail.com> <20100329172352.GA85779@potato> <20100331005639.GA91332@potato> <6201873e1003301813o32024529s8dae620af17b87db@mail.gmail.com> <20100401135841.GA98802@potato> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Adam Vande More , Varan Okul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0 (LSI2008) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:37:15 -0000 Hi, In the end I had to go with opensuse-11.2. I should have tried it in the second place really, because the iDRAC has Suse enterprise as an installation option, so it was a small leap to think of the free version. Here are the OSes I tried: FreeBSD 8 FreeBSD 9 NetBSD 5.0.2 CentOS Ubuntu 9.10 server Basically the LSI SA2008 seems very new so it's unsurprising my favourite OS doesn't support it. Hopefully it will in the near future, because this card is a popular option on a popular server aimed at small to medium sized businesses. OpenSuse-11.2 also does GPT in its installation process. I had to raid0 the disks before they could be seen properly though. Current dmesg is available here: http://www.growveg.org/server/dmesg.txt -- John - comp dot john at googlemail dot com OpenBSD firewall | FreeBSD desktop | Ubuntu Karmic laptop GPG: 0xF08A33C5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 16:05:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A55C1065670 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:05:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBEC08FC08 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8429 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2010 16:05:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2010 16:05:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=n/5h8tMYhxOd/68rQgt09ZlkwUCkNb9POhC2ZwX5iiy3gUO2G6sj6EtRCr7jpGgGd0A66EB+CN+v+hXKUhlJdWKdC5AQ4tHMnWM8ybzOD28QIEhSDc4gD01+nQfhxiSU; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NySKI-0003K8-Vp for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:05:32 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:04:44 -0600 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:04:44 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100404150443.GA14567@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:05:33 -0000 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 08:25:03AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >=20 > Even simpler: >=20 > if (@ARGV) { > print "No args\n"; > } else { > print "arg is $ARGV[0]\n"; > } As Randal noted, he accidentally swapped the conditions here. Just for the sake of absolute clarity, I'll actually swap them: if (@ARGV) { print "arg is $ARGV[0]\n"; } else { print "no args\n"; } >=20 > If you're studying perl, you might want to join the very > beginner-friendly mailing list, info at > http://lists.perl.org/list/beginners.html, or start a conversation on > perlmonks.org, also relatively beginner-friendly. PerlMonks in particular is an excellent resource. I haven't been active there recently, but when I have been active there, I've always found it rewarding and educational. I can't recommend it enough. >=20 > And I'd recommend a couple of good books, but I might be seen as > self-pimping. :) That's okay. I'll pimp them for you. Learning Perl, also known as The Llama Book (because it has a llama on the cover), is one of the all-time best beginner's books for *any* language that I've ever encountered. I've gone through both the second and fourth editions, and both are excellent books. I prefer the organization of the second edition a bit, but the fourth is a trifle more up to date and does a much better job of covering Windows-related Perl development issues. If you're only worried about Unixy development and execution environments, my personal recommendation would be the second edition, though I suppose your mileage may vary. As a follow-up to the Llama, the Alpaca book (it has an alpaca on the cover, naturally) -- in its first edition known as Learning Perl Objects, References, and Modules (or Perl PORM, as I like to call it), and in later editions titled Intermediate Perl -- is also an excellent book. In addition to teaching more about Perl in particular, it also teaches some important general programming concepts from a Perl perspective, thus helping broaden your understanding of programming in general. The final member of the traditional camelid trilogy, and a great book to tack onto the list after the Alpaca, is the Camel Book, titled Programming Perl. It's sorta the definitive reference for Perl programmers, and covers a lot more of the language and its philosophy than the Llama and Alpaca, though in my opinion the Llama and Alpaca together provide a needed introduction that the Camel only skims past (out of necessity, really, since a hand-holding introduction isn't really the book's purpose). There's also Mastering Perl, which was written as a sequel to Intermediate Perl, and I'm sure it's an excellent book. I haven't read it, though, and know next to nothing about it, so I can't really recommend it. All four of the above are published by O'Reilly, and the three I've read at least are each the kind of book that has given O'Reilly its reputation as a purveyor of excellent technical books. Perl is blessed by an absurd number of excellent programming books by knowledgeable authors, and there are many more that are worth your time as well -- but in general the above are the canonical starting steps, with others following from there as you start figuring out what specific areas you want to give your focus next. Unfortunately, there are also a number of really crappy Perl books out there (many books that spell it PERL, in all-capital letters, are among the not-so-great books), and as such I figured I should be explicit in sharing my thoughts on the best books to get started in Perl. Now that I've gotten so far off-topic for this list, I'll return you to your regularly scheduled programming. >=20 > But if you look at http://learn.perl.org/ you'll see a number of other > resources, including free tutorials online. >=20 > print "Just another Perl hacker,"; # the original --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku4qosACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWpEQCfQt4uwhU2p54GWqwPr7AM6W28 i9EAmwRsfKYfnRmsNQd+HRKJL7SXxur2 =CPLp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 16:45:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA811065673; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA008FC12; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1182781qwe.7 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:45:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.218.137 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:45:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:45:30 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7c16067e2df092c4 Received: by 10.229.218.2 with SMTP id ho2mr3247145qcb.51.1270399530597; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 09:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: glarkin@freebsd.org, kline@thought.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:45:32 -0000 On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Randal" =3D=3D Randal L Schwartz writes: > > Randal> Even simpler: > > Randal> =A0 =A0 if (@ARGV) { did you mean unless? ;-) > Randal> =A0 =A0 =A0 print "No args\n"; > Randal> =A0 =A0 } else { > Randal> =A0 =A0 =A0 print "arg is $ARGV[0]\n"; > Randal> =A0 =A0 } > > Augh. =A0I hit send just as I realized that's backwards. =A0Need > more caffiene. =A0Swap the true and false blocks there. :) > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 00= 95 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussi= on > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 17:04:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3D71065670 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD528FC14 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP88 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:04:15 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.160.65] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.160.65]) by BLU0-SMTP88.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:04:14 -0700 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3988A2282C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:04:12 -0400 From: Carmel NY To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4BB8AA05.3010506@cpufight.com> References: <4BB8AA05.3010506@cpufight.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2010 17:04:14.0555 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA9DAAB0:01CAD418] Subject: Re: Configuring IPFW IP range X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:04:16 -0000 On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:02:29 -0400, Ashley articulated: > On 04/04/2010 09:11 AM, Carmel NY wrote: > > This is my first attempt at configuring IPFW. I have it up and > > running; however, I am not quite sure how to accomplish configuring > > it to block an IP range. > > > > Assume an IP range: 219.128.0.0 to 219.137.255.255 > > > > That is an actual range: CHINANET Guangdong province network > > > > I want to block the entire range. I am not sure how to do it in > > IPFW. I have read the 'man' pages; however, I am not getting the > > syntax correct since I cannot get the range added. > Carmel, > > Have you tried something like what's mentioned in this excerpt quoted > below?: > > Network-based filtering works similarly, and the network > notation there utilizes either bitmasks or netmasks, for instance: > > add 2000 allow all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any > add 2100 deny all from any to 10.0.0.0:255.0.0.0 > > The first rule allows all traffic from the network whose IP range > is 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255. It uses a bitmask to indicate this. A > bitmask specifies how many bits from the network address (192.168.0.0) > should remain the same for matching packets. In this instance, the > first 16 bits out of the 32 bit address will remain the same, and as > the first 16 bits happen to be the first two octets, 192.168, all > addresses whose source addresses have the first two octets as 192.168 > will be matched by this rule. The second rule accomplishes a similar > thing using netmasks. The netmask indicate how many bits from the > indicated network address should be used for rule matching. In the > above example, for rule two, the netmask is 255.0.0.0. Its first > octet is set with high bits; in other words, the first 8 bits are set > high. This indicates to ipfw(8) that only packets with the first 8 > bits of the network address (10.0.0.0) should be matched. As the > first 8 bits of the network address equal 10, then all packets whose > destination address have a 10 for the first octet (all addresses > between 10.0.0.0 and 10.255.255.255) will be matched by this rule, > and then dropped, as indicated by the action. > > > (This excerpt from http://www.freebsd-howto.com/HOWTO/Ipfw-HOWTO) Thanks Maciej Suszko and Ashley. I used the ipcalc tool. I thought I had seen something like that before; however, I was not able to recall the name of the utility. I really have to study up on IPs and networking. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | BACHELOR: A man who chases women and never Mrs. one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 17:34:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFA01065672 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D95778FC0C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18855 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2010 17:34:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2010 17:34:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=fYUcOdm3UTtD7IKuTfuXOvxshblLEAaXNxN7XnckpJYFw/Je2KJzJ+xRDVwq//JCauwszkZshHjPaXuPPTUpystT6gqsg+1rA9hDQmUhwU8YTmcdu2nYrlH55iHLg4tT; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyTia-000820-VT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:34:42 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:33:53 -0600 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:33:53 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:34:43 -0000 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 12:45:30PM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Randal L. Schwartz > wrote: > >>>>>> "Randal" =3D=3D Randal L Schwartz writes: > > > > Randal> Even simpler: > > > > Randal> =A0 =A0 if (@ARGV) { > did you mean unless? ;-) I find "if" to be clearer than "unless" when there's an "else", so instead of making that "if" into an "unless", I'd just swap the conditional actions. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku4v3EACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWhyACgq8fo92Jrc62OD28wi6/ebMDz b2QAnjPZXp1t6OAC8y39AcBJxxifNbn6 =Qh/5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 18:14:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B994D1065672 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f195.google.com (mail-qy0-f195.google.com [209.85.221.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E03B8FC15 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33so3551417qyk.28 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:14:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.218.137 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:14:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100404150443.GA14567@guilt.hydra> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404150443.GA14567@guilt.hydra> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:14:18 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c0d77f60775779d4 Received: by 10.229.192.10 with SMTP id do10mr7915960qcb.48.1270404858612; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 18:14:19 -0000 On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 08:25:03AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: [...] > The final member of the traditional camelid trilogy, and a great book to Hmm, so there _are_ in fact several trilogies! I would swap the Camel for the Black Leopard anyday. Not implying that the author is not a great writer, but the Camel book is mostly a printout of perldoc perl sure hope Larry is not on this list > tack onto the list after the Alpaca, is the Camel Book, titled > Programming Perl. =A0It's sorta the definitive reference for Perl > programmers, and covers a lot more of the language and its philosophy > than the Llama and Alpaca, though in my opinion the Llama and Alpaca > together provide a needed introduction that the Camel only skims past > (out of necessity, really, since a hand-holding introduction isn't really > the book's purpose). > > There's also Mastering Perl, which was written as a sequel to > Intermediate Perl, and I'm sure it's an excellent book. =A0I haven't read > it, though, and know next to nothing about it, so I can't really > recommend it. > Perhaps the Vicu=F1a and kids is in fact the thrid member of the "trilogy", but the Black Leopard is a must have to become a respected Perl hacker IMHO. Anyway, since this is all OT I started this thread in PM for your comments: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=3D832725 Cheers, Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 18:14:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2052D106568C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29CA8FC0C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-100-7.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.100.7]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2713B1E222; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:14:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o34IEhwA003088; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:14:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:14:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 18:14:46 -0000 On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:33:53 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 12:45:30PM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > did you mean unless? ;-) > > I find "if" to be clearer than "unless" when there's an "else", so > instead of making that "if" into an "unless", I'd just swap the > conditional actions. A quite language-independent technical sidenote :-) ... If your if() conditional is to test an exception, something that you usually DON'T want to happen - i. e. missing command line parameters - you can use the ! negation operator to indicate this in the if() argument. if(!@ARGV) { print "No args\n"; exit; } In a short error message, you should indicate what you are expecting, e. g. with a synopsis or a simple example (no need for a 25 line help text here, e. g. print "Input file name is missing.\n"; print "usage: blabla.pl \n"; or print "Use: blabla.pl \n"; And you could even force perl to exit with an exit code != 0 to indicate that something happened (e. g. program wasn't run successfully). Now, as the "don't want case" has been considered, you can easily continue with your program, no need to put it into an else { } branch. PS. I'm not familiar with perl enough to be sure that the ! operator can be used at @ARGV to make sure it's > 0, and how or if to use exit() to set the return code. I hardly can read perl at all, so the essence of my examples is of a rather generic nature. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 17:19:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8403C106566C; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pluknet@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67B68FC14; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2560889bwz.3 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:19:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pD1jS9t2wkxqYZsUypROZbpGCrcnbWdaf5nxupagaF0=; b=nbN8f2ipf3Ol3RW9rnXJx+uNurbos4ssyIfar7AUeljh2pXoT00NQJLp8OrDybyh0F Bv/Wj4goxZ8OC7OPZH18upoJam0IsuM0OotQ80pfGvH9hwX5vZfU8HLFgP/HKBzAeWcW 5XmEaFsTlaayZVzYpTwGM6VyH+6pBMWaQCDHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fbq1YicWENkNxKnNi+i91DvEwg0RdzICdrz6aMQS8mdJ2dhiQiBiuhclqDYW40t15u YUY6xqk4D6ZCPNQeMNT8Pcf9SMfDLc7q3i8r9gPgwUsNqmfef8/BiomLBgFKvA2Cs/l5 6mIDHX/7HVBD8ruPKihO3beftmwIOctNKM23Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.47.232 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:19:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100404153347.GA40823@potato> References: <6201873e1003290731x148a2415q5113feb8a0479d4b@mail.gmail.com> <20100329172352.GA85779@potato> <20100331005639.GA91332@potato> <6201873e1003301813o32024529s8dae620af17b87db@mail.gmail.com> <20100401135841.GA98802@potato> <20100404153347.GA40823@potato> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:19:19 +0400 Received: by 10.204.84.142 with SMTP id j14mr3029723bkl.124.1270401559598; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: pluknet To: John Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 18:31:01 +0000 Cc: Adam Vande More , Varan Okul , krad , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0 (LSI2008) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:19:21 -0000 On 4 April 2010 19:33, John wrote: > Hi, > > In the end I had to go with opensuse-11.2. I should have tried it in the > second place really, because the iDRAC has Suse enterprise as an > installation option, so it was a small leap to think of the free > version. > > Here are the OSes I tried: > > FreeBSD 8 > FreeBSD 9 > NetBSD 5.0.2 > CentOS > Ubuntu 9.10 server > > Basically the LSI SA2008 seems very new so it's unsurprising my > favourite OS doesn't support it. Hopefully it will in the near future, > because this card is a popular option on a popular server aimed at > small to medium sized businesses. OpenSuse-11.2 also does GPT in its > installation process. I had to raid0 the disks before they could be > seen properly though. > > Current dmesg is available here: http://www.growveg.org/server/dmesg.txt A wild guess it's just not listed in mfi(4) pciids table (as well as for rest H200 family). What if you try this? --- sys/dev/mfi/mfi_pci.c.orig 2010-04-04 20:02:26.000000000 +0400 +++ sys/dev/mfi/mfi_pci.c 2010-04-04 20:06:17.000000000 +0400 @@ -117,6 +117,7 @@ } mfi_identifiers[] = { {0x1000, 0x0060, 0x1028, 0xffff, MFI_FLAGS_1078, "Dell PERC 6"}, {0x1000, 0x0060, 0xffff, 0xffff, MFI_FLAGS_1078, "LSI MegaSAS 1078"}, + {0x1000, 0x0072, 0x1028, 0x1f1e, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2, "Dell PERC H200 Integrated"}, {0x1000, 0x0078, 0xffff, 0xffff, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2, "LSI MegaSAS Gen2"}, {0x1000, 0x0079, 0x1028, 0x1f15, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2, "Dell PERC H800 Adapter"}, {0x1000, 0x0079, 0x1028, 0x1f16, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2, "Dell PERC H700 Adapter"}, -- wbr, pluknet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 18:48:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E821065675 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f195.google.com (mail-qy0-f195.google.com [209.85.221.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934768FC18 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33so3566089qyk.28 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:48:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.218.137 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:48:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:48:14 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 94c5324f93716165 Received: by 10.229.81.81 with SMTP id w17mr7655734qck.4.1270406894607; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Chad Perrin , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 18:48:16 -0000 On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:33:53 -0600, Chad Perrin wrot= e: >> On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 12:45:30PM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> > did you mean unless? ;-) >> >> I find "if" to be clearer than "unless" when there's an "else", so >> instead of making that "if" into an "unless", I'd just swap the >> conditional actions. > > A quite language-independent technical sidenote :-) ... > > If your if() conditional is to test an exception, something > that you usually DON'T want to happen - i. e. missing command > line parameters - you can use the ! negation operator to > indicate this in the if() argument. > _precisely_ what unless is for. it's just a funny way of writing if(!... or should I say if(! is a funny way to write unless ;-) But honestly pun aside unless(){} is far more readable than if(!){} and _especially_ if you are programming in an exception manner as you correctly point out. Every language should have an unless construct. [...] > And you could even force perl to exit with an exit code !=3D 0 > to indicate that something happened (e. g. program wasn't run > successfully). > a good practice in any language... > Now, as the "don't want case" has been considered, you can > easily continue with your program, no need to put it into > an else { } branch. > ahh! the clarity of unless > > > > PS. I'm not familiar with perl enough to be sure that the ! > =A0 =A0operator can be used at @ARGV to make sure it's > 0, In "scalar context" will automagically return the number of elements perldoc perlintro (section Perl variable types) > =A0 =A0and how or if to use exit() to set the return code. die "Bailing cause you forgot the filename" unless @ARGV Yes, that _is_ actual code :) Will not only die with a pretty message on STDERR but will return the value of $! (errno) as exit value. (no need to make up exit codes) Good thing we are on a FBSD list, because I can't see the sense of programming in a non-nix environment ;-) > =A0 =A0I hardly can read perl at all, so the essence of my > =A0 =A0examples is of a rather generic nature. :-) Look mommi! Reading Perl is just like reading plain english! (or in Nigerian spam for that matter http://search.cpan.org/~jwalt/Acme-Lingua-NIGERIAN-1.0.0/NIGERIAN.pm) Cheers, Alejandro Imass > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 19:01:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA97106566B; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f195.google.com (mail-qy0-f195.google.com [209.85.221.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C87C8FC14; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:01:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33so3572472qyk.28 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:01:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.218.137 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:01:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:01:46 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7d7647bb17f7d32a Received: by 10.229.184.130 with SMTP id ck2mr7330144qcb.95.1270407706572; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: glarkin@freebsd.org, kline@thought.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 19:01:48 -0000 On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Gary" == Gary Kline writes: [...] > And I'd recommend a couple of good books, but I might be seen as > self-pimping. :) > > But if you look at http://learn.perl.org/ you'll see a number of other > resources, including free tutorials online. > The "trilogy" is a must-have regardless if you are beginner intermediate or advanced, and regardless of who wrote them ;-) - Learning Perl - Intermediate Perl - Advanced Perl Programming Of course, the Camel book (Programming Perl), and Perl Best Practices which IMHO is a must read for _any_ language but especially for Perl hackers. More here: http://oreilly.com/pub/topic/perl Best, Alejandro Imass > print "Just another Perl hacker,"; # the original > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 20:39:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B679106564A; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001178FC2C; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o34KdpeD080281; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:39:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 13:39:51 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Message-ID: <20100404203951.GB47459@thought.org> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on ethic.thought.org Cc: glarkin@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:39:56 -0000 On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 08:25:03AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Kline writes: > > Gary> #!/usr/bin/perl > Gary> $argc = @ARGV; > Gary> if (! $argc ) { > Gary> printf("No args; need filename.\n"); > Gary> } > Gary> else { > Gary> printf("%s\n", @ARGV); > Gary> } > > Even simpler: > > if (@ARGV) { > print "No args\n"; > } else { > print "arg is $ARGV[0]\n"; > } > > If you're studying perl, you might want to join the very > beginner-friendly mailing list, info at > http://lists.perl.org/list/beginners.html, or start a conversation on > perlmonks.org, also relatively beginner-friendly. > > And I'd recommend a couple of good books, but I might be seen as > self-pimping. :) hey man, pimp away! we'll all learn a few tricks. ---i had to teach myself perl around '96 and bought a couple books, one with a floppy full of short programs. After doing a find . -name "*" -exec head -15 {} \; | more thru the truckload of these nifties, i finally came across the "$argc" idea. there are around a dozen no-longer-throwaways that need the kind of no-arg tip just to make the scripts more user friendly. even tho i'm the Only person who'll ever use them. ---Maybe you can clue me in on this one: around a dozen years ago i somw found a recursive grep named tgrep online. to save tying, i renamed it "rgr". i can start anywhere and 'rgr pattern' --WITHOUT ANY ASTERISK-- will find any pattern and skip binary or tarballs or compressed files. given this, rgr has become my favorite utility, but since it doesn't have All of grep's options, yes, it's tru e, there are times whrn i have to use the real thing. i have searched for tgrep and cannot find a newer more complete version. would you or anyone reading this know where an upgraded version is? Here is the Usage string: p4 13:07 [5524] rgr Usage: tgrep [-iredblLnf] regexp filepat ... tgrep -h for help if not for trgep/rgr my shoulder would've fallen off and just laid on the floor; that's how much i use this script. having the 'w' switch would be nice, so would the -N switch. > > But if you look at http://learn.perl.org/ you'll see a number of other > resources, including free tutorials online. tx for the pointer; i'll add it to my bookmarks. gary > > print "Just another Perl hacker,"; # the original > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 20:56:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3ED106566C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECA08FC14 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:56:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pKw63bS+wPQ6BxbjPFuXko/1Hb8f7lpGL8zfzHecwYY= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ipoArj6GrvOCo6ls3Bny8w==:17 a=rWdDcm16AAAA:8 a=0Wkxbn5hAAAA:8 a=eNcD7ojaAAAA:8 a=EQ83B0Zg7gwaywIwDKgA:9 a=NDKbDrDkC1YV5vrydCw0vJKzHWwA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=jgoaQNzrKcYA:10 a=ipoArj6GrvOCo6ls3Bny8w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 72.130.250.48 Received: from [72.130.250.48] ([72.130.250.48:11562] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id ED/0D-28165-70DF8BB4; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:56:40 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (parv [127.0.0.2]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B035C76; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:58:37 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o34KwZGS079196; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:58:35 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:58:35 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20100404205835.GA34394@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , "Randal L. Schwartz" , glarkin@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404203951.GB47459@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100404203951.GB47459@thought.org> Cc: glarkin@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Mailing List , "Randal L. Schwartz" Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:56:41 -0000 in message <20100404203951.GB47459@thought.org>, wrote Gary Kline thusly... > > ---Maybe you can clue me in on this one: around a dozen years ago > i somw found a recursive grep named tgrep online. to save tying, > i renamed it "rgr". i can start anywhere and 'rgr pattern' > --WITHOUT ANY ASTERISK-- will find any pattern and skip binary or > tarballs or compressed files. given this, rgr has become my > favorite utility, but since it doesn't have All of grep's > options, yes, it's tru e, there are times whrn i have to use the > real thing. i have searched for tgrep and cannot find a newer > more complete version. would you or anyone reading this know > where an upgraded version is? > > Here is the Usage string: > > p4 13:07 [5524] rgr > Usage: tgrep [-iredblLnf] regexp filepat ... > tgrep -h for help > > > if not for trgep/rgr my shoulder would've fallen off and just > laid on the floor; that's how much i use this script. having the > 'w' switch would be nice, so would the -N switch. What does "-N" do in grep included with FreeBSD? My version (FreeBSD 8) only has "-n". I know of one tcgrep (by Tom Christiansen) ... http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/id/TOMC/scripts/tcgrep.gz Then, there is ack ... http://search.cpan.org/dist/ack/ack ... may need to tinker with option to search non-Perl files (see -a option). Or, simply ... #!/bin/sh # If your particular egrep is laced with potent PCRE, may use -P # option (before "$@") to specify Perl regex. egrep -r $@ . - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 21:00:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67432106564A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDA58FC0C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:00:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn12 with SMTP id 12so1628936iwn.14 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 14:00:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wkTojyYH6+YrWveTgJnvPn9d4u1xr/dEt1u7MMWeSEE=; b=sSh9zmzJlFqWP4+dnB/rB1OhvNiQyBjAXbxz+V1GExT3D2Jzp4Km5q5sh+sputSf7Q Tw0F7o+9QcWR6r+qVTQGIrhx2jECg4NrpuXqYGM8fN7d4bAoFyxiTwsSKUAL1emeAI6i XOb6rEsRKBxKj0vOc23ExPf0wb+zCps2y7Vps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jV5/4Qj/eFovKA1awHUlaqJc6VXrXwXkp7bJrhev74i7qY1r5tLxLz3OKqUY6OVE7I qarn0NRQqJ24g4S4IiOP1SdxjXd47kMc9bBgdJrleyta6sIZJb2AZYmL8RuLN/+dJo/S hM7TXfitQ+YlI8581wsF2xml5DqTtJTW1nXtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.152.209 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:00:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:00:09 -0600 Received: by 10.231.145.17 with SMTP id b17mr1680793ibv.94.1270414809887; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 14:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Jeremie Le Hen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:00:11 -0000 On 4/4/10, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > Hi, > > --->> Please Cc: me when replying, I'm not subscribed. <<--- > > I plan to purchase a Zotac motherboard with a embedded ATOM processor. > It uses an NVidia chipset. > > http://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-ionitx-f-e-atom-n330-1-6ghz-dual-core-mini-itx-intel-motherboard.html > > My intent is to build a small NAS with ZFS and NFS/CIFS. I'd like to > know if anyone successfully ran FreeBSD on this motherboard and what > performance could be achieved, especially if ZFS is used. I checked the > archives without luck. > > Thanks! > -- > Jeremie Le Hen A NAS w/ ZFS, NFS and CIFS/SMB, doesn't need any feature of the ion chipset. Why are you electing for this board if you're not running any graphical environment? And ZFS is memory hungry, the Atom is a i386-like chip, so you'd have too much overhead with ZFS. I think you've elected the wrong board for your purposes. Will FreeBSD run on it? yes. I have freebsd on another atom N-series ASUS box. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 21:10:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85A9106566B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B7C8FC08 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyX51-0008Cd-87 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:10:03 +0200 Received: from static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl ([78.8.147.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:10:03 +0200 Received: from mwisnicki+freebsd by static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:10:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marcin Wisnicki Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 4 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Subject: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:10:05 -0000 Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys 2. Normal users will still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 21:33:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5F2106566C; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4708FC0C; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o34LX2nH080544; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:33:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:33:02 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Alejandro Imass Message-ID: <20100404213302.GC47459@thought.org> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on ethic.thought.org Cc: glarkin@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Mailing List , "Randal L. Schwartz" Subject: Caution:: Off-topic Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:33:08 -0000 On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 12:45:30PM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Randal L. Schwartz > wrote: > >>>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz writes: > > > > Randal> Even simpler: > > > > Randal>     if (@ARGV) { > did you mean unless? ;-) > > Randal>       print "No args\n"; > > Randal>     } else { > > Randal>       print "arg is $ARGV[0]\n"; > > Randal>     } > > > > Augh.  I hit send just as I realized that's backwards.  Need > > more caffiene.  Swap the true and false blocks there. :) just having my 77th mug of french roast, so i'm hip. ...Anyway, here's one i'v been wanting to ask for years but don't know where to pose. Is C dead? i mean, since it's been "official" for years, can C add things like the unless keyword? Can C include the perl regex packages? if i asked this anywhere else, they would send out the men in white coats an d haul me away. here i'm safe:) anybody know if we need a new C [[maybe D]] that would be allowed to grow? gary > > > > -- > > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 21:55:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB966106564A; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremie@le-hen.org) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C428FC13; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFAE9400D4; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:54:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from endor.tataz.chchile.org (tataz.chchile.org [82.233.239.98]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEAD940058; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:54:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from felucia.tataz.chchile.org (felucia.tataz.chchile.org [192.168.1.9]) by endor.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1349F33E4E; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by felucia.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E5C1DA1122; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:54:55 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Jeremie Le Hen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:55:07 -0000 Hi, --->> Cc: me when replying, as I'm not subscribed. <<--- I cross-post this reply to freebsd-hardware@ since the result of my little study around Atom-based motherboard may be of interest for readers of this ML too. On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 03:00:09PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > On 4/4/10, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > --->> Please Cc: me when replying, I'm not subscribed. <<--- > > > > I plan to purchase a Zotac motherboard with a embedded ATOM processor. > > It uses an NVidia chipset. > > > > http://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-ionitx-f-e-atom-n330-1-6ghz-dual-core-mini-itx-intel-motherboard.html > > > > My intent is to build a small NAS with ZFS and NFS/CIFS. I'd like to > > know if anyone successfully ran FreeBSD on this motherboard and what > > performance could be achieved, especially if ZFS is used. I checked the > > archives without luck. > > A NAS w/ ZFS, NFS and CIFS/SMB, doesn't need any feature of the ion > chipset. Why are you electing for this board if you're not running > any graphical environment? > > And ZFS is memory hungry, the Atom is a i386-like chip, so you'd have > too much overhead with ZFS. > > I think you've elected the wrong board for your purposes. Will > FreeBSD run on it? yes. I have freebsd on another atom N-series ASUS > box. Yeah, you are right. I should have mentionned that I do not want necessarily a high-performance NAS, it's for home use so my premary concern is the low power consumption. This is why I want an Atom-based motherboard. By the way, I found an post on OpenSolaris forums where the author achieves something like 35MB/s on a ZFS filesystem through CIFS using an Intel Atom-based motherboard [1]. This is enough for the use I intend to have. Zotac mobo is better than Intel D954GSE because it provides a wireless interface - although I couldn't figure out which chipset yet, so I don't know if it's corretly supported on FreeBSD - and three S-ATA connectors. I'm still not sure about which motherboard to buy actually. After some additional reading, my leaning seems to go towards Intel's one as it is less expensive and consumes half the power of the Zotac's one (13W with a HDD [2] vs. 25W [3]). I can live with two S-ATA connectors and I can plug a wireless interface on the available PCI connector if I ever need it. Regards, [1] http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2009-June/048214.html [2] http://www.homeserverhacks.com/2009/06/hands-on-whs-build-with-intel-d945gsejt.html [3] http://www.anandtech.com/show/2765/12 -- Jeremie Le Hen Humans are born free and equal. But some are more equal than others. Coluche From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 22:13:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9C2106566B; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2580A8FC08; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o34MDodR080775; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:13:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:13:49 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "Randal L. Schwartz" , glarkin@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100404221349.GD47459@thought.org> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404203951.GB47459@thought.org> <20100404205835.GA34394@holstein.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100404205835.GA34394@holstein.holy.cow> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 22:13:55 -0000 On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 10:58:35AM -1000, parv@pair.com wrote: > in message <20100404203951.GB47459@thought.org>, > wrote Gary Kline thusly... > > > > ---Maybe you can clue me in on this one: around a dozen years ago > > i somw found a recursive grep named tgrep online. to save tying, > > i renamed it "rgr". i can start anywhere and 'rgr pattern' > > --WITHOUT ANY ASTERISK-- will find any pattern and skip binary or > > tarballs or compressed files. given this, rgr has become my > > favorite utility, but since it doesn't have All of grep's > > options, yes, it's tru e, there are times whrn i have to use the > > real thing. i have searched for tgrep and cannot find a newer > > more complete version. would you or anyone reading this know > > where an upgraded version is? > > > > Here is the Usage string: > > > > p4 13:07 [5524] rgr > > Usage: tgrep [-iredblLnf] regexp filepat ... > > tgrep -h for help > > > > > > if not for trgep/rgr my shoulder would've fallen off and just > > laid on the floor; that's how much i use this script. having the > > 'w' switch would be nice, so would the -N switch. > > What does "-N" do in grep included with FreeBSD? My version > (FreeBSD 8) only has "-n". Sorry, my bad. I should have said that "N" was any positive integer. Sometimes I'll be searching for a phrase that i'm not certain of and will type grep -7 PATTERN file[s] where PATTERN is a known. I'll pipe around for various other strings. > > I know of one tcgrep (by Tom Christiansen) ... > > http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/id/TOMC/scripts/tcgrep.gz > > > Then, there is ack ... > > http://search.cpan.org/dist/ack/ack > > > ... may need to tinker with option to search non-Perl files (see -a > option). > > Or, simply ... > > #!/bin/sh > > # If your particular egrep is laced with potent PCRE, may use -P > # option (before "$@") to specify Perl regex. > egrep -r $@ . > this tgrep is from the NL; by a Prof Piet van Oostrum and is dated 5/19/93. i think ii wrote this fellow many years ago. Zip. I'll ck out ack when i'm using a gui mailer, thanks. gary > > - parv > > -- > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 22:14:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2728F106566C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:14:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08368FC1B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2664350bwz.3 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:14:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.135.219 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:14:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.53.223] In-Reply-To: <20100404213302.GC47459@thought.org> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404213302.GC47459@thought.org> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:14:48 +0200 Received: by 10.204.83.132 with SMTP id f4mr6145155bkl.73.1270419288361; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Caution:: Off-topic Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 22:14:50 -0000 On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > Can C include the perl regex packages? Yes! Just use PCRE. Or, if you prefer C++, Boost.Regex: http://www.pcre.org/ http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_42_0/libs/regex/doc/html/index.html -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 22:19:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F207106566B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnrp@gnrp.in-berlin.de) Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (einhorn.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE298FC15 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:19:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Envelope-From: gnrp@gnrp.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from eselhitler (q827es.in-vpn.de [217.197.85.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id o34Lo5xg032694 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:50:06 +0200 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:49:59 +0200 From: Julian Fagir To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100404234959.23966b02@eselhitler> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang_at_IN-Berlin_e.V. on 192.109.42.8 Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 22:19:56 -0000 Hi, > Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: > > 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys > 2. Normal users will still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive perhaps the sshd-option "PermitRootLogin" does match your requirements. To be found in sshd_config (5). Regards, Julian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 22:25:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91503106566B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B848FC14 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so2417723fxm.13 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:25:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+gBOw3alN52SeI97B4Irbfd9WdR10FEieTPx4P31exw=; b=YuU5p8KyIpeYy0oYTPIbSK/+oHozgHTFlhJuRxl5dKDUyWfJ2nObi+bec29zTqoI3S pOcW47sJD/Hf/p/ZaGO8L716czzA8jgvpHPxr7krsw9cn3xYBBYphVZltvAwa904IoLP FQIKyBLNJb8avEfvJbVPQX0r9GiF4CGy9dmI0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=K0RqTJPMMCBvEwQWUy4yW0D5qpaw/Jlks4SX42FcEhn2D2BeN8XTjeBhOaZ2MTQRVz Z0IWmzHbJOZTgsup+QhJy1xpGpqJjJkxrxOrc31h+pdrOsJWBr3ZmuEinTsNjCCzM1A1 wK6M9EzkPthLTabL6fSIEnyJkD2FveNSFODuY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.157.136 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:25:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100404234959.23966b02@eselhitler> References: <20100404234959.23966b02@eselhitler> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:25:56 +0100 Received: by 10.239.142.205 with SMTP id h13mr417688hba.213.1270419956799; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: krad To: Julian Fagir Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 22:25:58 -0000 On 4 April 2010 22:49, Julian Fagir wrote: > Hi, > > > Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: > > > > 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys > > 2. Normal users will still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive > > perhaps the sshd-option "PermitRootLogin" does match your requirements. > To be found in sshd_config (5). > > > Regards, Julian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Why do you need to do this? It is generally a bad thing to allow. Why not use su or sudo? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 23:25:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE85106564A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4D48FC2C for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31B0B1C0871 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 01:25:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BB91FD5.3040403@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:25:09 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:25:12 -0000 On 04/04/10 23:04, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: > Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: > > 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys > 2. Normal users will still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive Yes, you can create a Match block with the criteria User, something like this I guess will work (haven't tested): PermitRootLogin yes Match User root PasswordAuthentication no check the man page. You might also want to restrict from where root can login with another match block. I assume that you have decided root login is acceptable with the increased security of key authentication. Just beware that the key must be password protected. BR, Erik -- Erik NÞrgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 23:27:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEA2106566B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411658FC13 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 73650 invoked by uid 98); 5 Apr 2010 00:42:54 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.100 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.95.1/9971. hbedv: 7.9.1.53/7.1.6.174. spamassassin: 3.2.5. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.100):. Processed in 0.052982 secs); 04 Apr 2010 23:42:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO x60.lerwick.hopto.org) (192.168.0.100) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 2010 00:42:53 +0100 Message-ID: <4BB92058.8070408@lerwick.hopto.org> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 00:27:20 +0100 From: Craig Butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091221 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcin Wisnicki References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:27:20 -0000 On 04/04/2010 22:04, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: > Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: > > 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys > Yes > 2. Normal users will still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive > Yes see PermitRootLogin section in man sshd_config... /Craig B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 23:35:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33AA106566B for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEA28FC18 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:35:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyZLg-0004hE-7x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:35:24 +0200 Received: from static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl ([78.8.147.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:35:24 +0200 Received: from mwisnicki+freebsd by static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:35:24 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marcin Wisnicki Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <4BB91FD5.3040403@locolomo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:35:28 -0000 On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:25:09 +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote: > On 04/04/10 23:04, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: >> Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: >> >> 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys 2. Normal users will >> still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive > > Yes, you can create a Match block with the criteria User, something like > this I guess will work (haven't tested): > > PermitRootLogin yes > Match User root > PasswordAuthentication no > > check the man page. You might also want to restrict from where root can > login with another match block. > PasswordAuthentication is already disabled (by default). I need to disable ChallengeResponseAuthentication however: /etc/ssh/sshd_config line 131: Directive 'ChallengeResponseAuthentication' is not allowed within a Match block Same thing for "UsePAM no" (though I would like to keep pam for accounting and session management) > I assume that you have decided root login is acceptable with the > increased security of key authentication. Just beware that the key must > be password protected. > > BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 23:40:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635EA1065670 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EE18FC16 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyZQA-00030y-Tj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:40:02 +0200 Received: from static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl ([78.8.147.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:40:02 +0200 Received: from mwisnicki+freebsd by static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:40:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marcin Wisnicki Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <20100404234959.23966b02@eselhitler> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:40:04 -0000 On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:49:59 +0200, Julian Fagir wrote: > Hi, > >> Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: >> >> 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys 2. Normal users will >> still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive > > perhaps the sshd-option "PermitRootLogin" does match your requirements. > To be found in sshd_config (5). > Unfortunately it doesn't. Assuming you mean 'without-password' option, I would have to disable ChallengeResponseAuthentication for everyone which I would like to avoid. It is not possible to disable ChallengeResponseAuthentication inside match block. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 00:11:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30BF106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70808FC0A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o350BgqF015947 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:11:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:11:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201004050011.o350BgqF015947@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuring IPFW IP range [FreeBSD-questions] {offlist} X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 00:11:56 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 4 08:12:11 2010 > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:11:47 -0400 > From: Carmel NY > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Configuring IPFW IP range > > This is my first attempt at configuring IPFW. I have it up and running; > however, I am not quite sure how to accomplish configuring it to block > an IP range. > > Assume an IP range: 219.128.0.0 to 219.137.255.255 > > That is an actual range: CHINANET Guangdong province network > > I want to block the entire range. I am not sure how to do it in IPFW. I > have read the 'man' pages; however, I am not getting the syntax correct > since I cannot get the range added. > CIDR ranges have to: (a) start on a 'power of 2' address, (b) be a 'power of two' in size, and (c) be no larger than the 'power of 2' factor for the starting address. This range is _not_ that way [fails (b)], so you'll have to do it with multiple entries. i.e., one for "219.128.0.0/13" which will catch 219.128.0.0 - 219.135.255.255 and a 2nd for "219.136.0.0/15" which will catch 219.136.0.0 - 219.137.255.255 Life can get messier, when rule 3 comes into play, consider the block 219.130.0.0 to 219.139.255.255 219.130.0.0 is on a /15 boundary, so that's the max block size you can use for tht starting address. 219.130.0.0/15 catches 219.130.0.0 - 219.131.255.255 next, you can start with 219.132.0.0, which is a /14, and block a /14 wth 219.132.0.0/14 catches 219.132.0.0 - 219.135.255.255 now, 219.136.0.0 is a /13 so you could block that big with just more rule, if needed, (BUT, you only need another /14, to cover the remainder of the group of 10 /16s that the initial block includes. thus, lastly: 219.136.0.0/14 catches 219.136.0.0 - 219.139.255.255 This should help you get the syntax right. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 00:37:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E64B106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D909B8FC0A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2698067bwz.3 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:37:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Zhnkx0Bu4FxDRpQ/kBN31sg5XCGOmaOyIY4fg+VMCbg=; b=vrgWWitzaAVuOKqUatrb9TCN0O+Vq0YLHtxJT2zvAEIZM15RaMHNkE9Q+T87T2oJv6 HJv7EzwkrgMYbBBSz8FLiAq1goLMQ1z8eSvVOnCW8NK1tUfZySjVK35a8J3kfrqfKA4L eSPy4XPP2K5ciRzz8fvRRxAab6R4sMjEwOWUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iWE0TE6PwItP3W2q67ODhgYOfM56fs2rjzMaCssPIM2bNQMakPfAUCP1TNB38zmO9x PwX8rlzHLPI47BCAXgOt0GH4xme071lN3rwt4RBFsYyIA1KaAkJ/N0sPeUFmCbmuFRAb WPxdlyjldoATomMVX4F+/kIL/YujjtyWtM7L8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.203 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:37:14 +0300 Received: by 10.204.83.132 with SMTP id f4mr6261486bkl.73.1270427834656; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: jeremie@le-hen.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: RE: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 00:37:16 -0000 Just a small comment regarding Atom suitability for a home NAS: feel free to completely ignore people saying that ZFS overhead is too much for an Atom to handle efficiently, they have no idea what they are talking about. I am using a Supermicro X7SPA-H board (Atom D510) and I an easily achieving ~85mb/s transfers over Samba to and from the machine. 85mb/s is also the best these drives will do and my CPU is nowhere near maxed during these transfers, so with better disks I would be easily saturating gigabit, while still having plenty of available CPU time. What you want is a good disk controller and fast and reliable disks, 2gb RAM is enough, but with 4gb ram you can basically safely enable prefetch for a very noticable boost in sequential pattern reads. Below are some numbers from my personal Atom NAS system: =================================================================== bonnie -s 8192 -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 8192 29065 68.9 52027 39.8 39636 33.3 54057 95.4 105335 34.6 174.1 7.9 dd if=/dev/zero of=test1 bs=1M count=8192 8589934592 bytes transferred in 111.300481 secs (77177875 bytes/sec) (73,6mb/s) dd if=/dev/urandom of=test2 bs=1M count=8192 dd if=test2 of=/dev/zero bs=1M 8589934592 bytes transferred in 76.031399 secs (112978779 bytes/sec) (107,74mb/s) =================================================================== This is a ZFS mirror of 2 x 2tb WD Green drives with 32mb cache with the automatic headparking disabled via WDIDLE3. The drives are very cheap and hence, are the bottleneck in my case. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 00:40:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BB4106566C; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@acm.org) Received: from mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A5C8FC08; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-253-149.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.253.149]) by mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o350eeRn021709 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:40:42 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o350eb6I033132; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:40:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o350eZ9o033131; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:40:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:40:35 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Jeremie Le Hen Message-ID: <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-CMAE-Score: 0 Cc: Tim Judd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 00:40:45 -0000 --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2010-Apr-04 23:54:55 +0200, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: >Yeah, you are right. I should have mentionned that I do not want >necessarily a high-performance NAS, it's for home use so my premary >concern is the low power consumption. This is why I want an Atom-based >motherboard. Unfortunately, FreeBSD has some issues with low memory handling that make FreeBSD/i386 a bad choice for ZFS. You would be far better off running amd64 with as much RAM as you can fit onto the board. (And this is one case where you want amd64 even if you don't have >4GB RAM). Note that this doesn't mean you can't use an Atom - some Atoms include EM64T - you just need to check. IMO, the biggest disadvantage of using an Atom in a ZFS NAS is the lack of ECC support on the Atom. ZFS can detect bitflips in the I/O sustem but you can still get screwed by a bitflip in RAM. >I'm still not sure about which motherboard to buy actually. After some >additional reading, my leaning seems to go towards Intel's one as it is >less expensive and consumes half the power of the Zotac's one (13W with >a HDD [2] vs. 25W [3]). I'd recommend against buying anything with the Atom combined with a 945. Whilst the Atom is low-power, the 945 isn't. That is also an older motherboard using an older, superseded Atom. I suggest you look for motherboards built around the new Pinetrail Atoms (which _do_ support EM46T and hence can run amd64). Supermicro make a number of potentially suitable boards: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPA.cfm this is pricier but supports remote management - other options at: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Atom/ If you want an Intel MB, search for BOXD510MO Note that I'm not sure how well FreeBSD's X.org supports the Pinetrail yet. There have been some commits but I don't know if support is complete. --=20 Peter Jeremy --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku5MYIACgkQ/opHv/APuIdzowCeIBwjxQrbHFWQCeP83N6Qwfa7 yYAAoLjlszJPezdKyuaeKuRIXt0HxdbK =ETyd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 01:14:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38576106566B for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 01:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F668FC13 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 01:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o351ELJx016272; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:14:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:14:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201004050114.o351ELJx016272@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, glarkin@freebsd.org, kline@thought.org, merlyn@stonehenge.com Cc: Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:14:34 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 4 17:14:17 2010 > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:13:49 -0700 > From: Gary Kline > To: "Randal L. Schwartz" , glarkin@freebsd.org, > FreeBSD Mailing List > Cc: > Subject: Re: perl qstn... > > On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 10:58:35AM -1000, parv@pair.com wrote: > > in message <20100404203951.GB47459@thought.org>, > > wrote Gary Kline thusly... > > > > > > ---Maybe you can clue me in on this one: around a dozen years ago > > > i somw found a recursive grep named tgrep online. to save tying, > > > i renamed it "rgr". i can start anywhere and 'rgr pattern' > > > --WITHOUT ANY ASTERISK-- will find any pattern and skip binary or > > > tarballs or compressed files. given this, rgr has become my > > > favorite utility, but since it doesn't have All of grep's > > > options, yes, it's tru e, there are times whrn i have to use the > > > real thing. i have searched for tgrep and cannot find a newer > > > more complete version. would you or anyone reading this know > > > where an upgraded version is? > > > > > > Here is the Usage string: > > > > > > p4 13:07 [5524] rgr > > > Usage: tgrep [-iredblLnf] regexp filepat ... > > > tgrep -h for help > > > > > > > > > if not for trgep/rgr my shoulder would've fallen off and just > > > laid on the floor; that's how much i use this script. having the > > > 'w' switch would be nice, so would the -N switch. > > > > What does "-N" do in grep included with FreeBSD? My version > > (FreeBSD 8) only has "-n". > > > Sorry, my bad. I should have said that "N" was any positive > integer. Sometimes I'll be searching for a phrase that i'm > not certain of and will type grep -7 PATTERN file[s] where > PATTERN is a known. I'll pipe around for various other > strings. > > > > I know of one tcgrep (by Tom Christiansen) ... > > > > http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/id/TOMC/scripts/tcgrep.gz > > > > > > Then, there is ack ... > > > > http://search.cpan.org/dist/ack/ack > > > > > > ... may need to tinker with option to search non-Perl files (see -a > > option). > > > > Or, simply ... > > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > # If your particular egrep is laced with potent PCRE, may use -P > > # option (before "$@") to specify Perl regex. > > egrep -r $@ . > > > > > this tgrep is from the NL; by a Prof Piet van Oostrum and is > dated 5/19/93. i think ii wrote this fellow many years ago. > Zip. I'll ck out ack when i'm using a gui mailer, thanks. Google to the rescue. Given the program name, and the author, one finds that this code was in "UNIX Power Tools" (O'Reilly * Assoc.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 03:21:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD97106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52303.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52303.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC99F8FC0A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2521 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Apr 2010 03:21:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1270437662; bh=UTz9HbeU4giVKKRzYxKE/zfxsM1ErdByLLJXAbxV/As=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dlydj/Nt8YO0Yrx5O+haJGR+PpXon+Dx0Mazy4+1MqwzKdP2p2XjNdjLHOErTik/pLo9MYu/Ivwmkh1rgRvrVopq8zKUrE0wGgGzmEl7Gs3sfDpbojqi3wScWfUo+WntKMOdGxdybGmOX4oJjF3ltXc5wkMnx3lVGy+8cHTW7sc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q7Ym3q3JPrfrWMlxpCQEx42g9McwSMH5Cj0q2y68ucL9AKAD2dbgCYJfiPwrE9I1cMOmIUEeKAQA9wjwYg3HjkpQfEqNJ+XdQdzAS0JkvIbzfzjx0BEK7gwY8Csp/rfxUJiBJxiuvSDmUgfByboz3axX6PRUAn7G51IK+Vg6HW0=; Message-ID: <99965.1808.qm@web52303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WKJjfWMVM1nfwmNyhW5Ls8LLqnNOjEX._vNqwAc6GCerQN5 89AXzSSklUiuCJTrTH_EO3wBCTVI8.XnHUs2QhdbGt3RChww2cE4jEdAPief eUJDQcyw1TX7rryEN_xIyzsmR81hdHXZX.uyCcHgYAANE64VpAtL7UDac9uw d7F.SX.o.49v9TJtR..WVsw3hp5UK_caM2tUm5i5RCjJS7bDReSYRWPlUQK3 AbubIH2zQynsnZ9j1TcfBxgm74YrNUffVlX88ZpbAmsO1KaPwwUNq3U1Ycw. u6XWSTI2jJ.TzsJK46RcnH1liInjpUtlQcIBetagMSZVLQSvIr_4PTw-- Received: from [98.169.0.45] by web52303.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:21:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 20:21:01 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: free bsd , freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: weird errors or else? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 03:21:03 -0000 Hi all: I am compiling xscreensaver-kde and it stooped with following errors: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Package tocloft Note: The document has chapter divisions. ) (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/hyperref/pd1enc.def) (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.cfg) Implicit mode ON; LaTeX internals redefined (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/hyperref/backref.sty) (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/url/url.sty)) *hyperref using default driver hpdftex* (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/hyperref/hpdftex.def (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/pifont.sty (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/upzd.fd) (/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/psnfss/upsy.fd))) Writing index file doxygen_manual.idx (./doxygen_manual.aux ! 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Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 03:22:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4529C1065676 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f224.google.com (mail-ew0-f224.google.com [209.85.219.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE83C8FC25 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so957232ewy.33 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:22:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9m32X+/93z/rWppf4IW2waMVoynsmCu3JpNL9SMAvoE=; b=Js13fLNPLm6IqoogyDWnOqtKKeIsCXer8WaxgbO6uIkZWxjowepe2FjSTC98AtOrCw fbFWYFrVbKQEidY7ZGOf3QAKTwDCkxP90fK7NLuJQVriFE1ir230UiWZzvnxvJkKxLUg 1s+sy3L85cxBWtfWiqqe0tCMZpHnSznYIFmyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=A/6KMXBnwsn4BArmyF9cDnjbfe4tshxywJDKWQLK+LBon/npeC0YHsl7yY4+7UIqw0 x9JsYuCjYwR24nLWvbEPyff/8i8ZFGgHHb3bSowmtmQI97q+0NnuCNF8+Gy3NxXY//F5 ay++cEwTsZI87tqdquxHdzk5vQVXgVTloeS8c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.106.4 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:54:03 -0400 Received: by 10.213.51.210 with SMTP id e18mr2777775ebg.81.1270436043467; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 19:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Henry Olyer To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: under X, frozen keys, no mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 03:22:28 -0000 I installed FBSD 7.3 on an older Compaq box. It has a built-in video card, this isn't a top of the line superfast machine. But it is important for me to press it into service. I tried using a couple of Option lines in xorg.conf, but no luck. so now my questions... Will FBSD 7.3 make use of xf86cfg or some such program. I ask because the X --configure command has never worked for me; Not on any of five different machines I've put FBSD on. I'm not trying to do a sophisticated install either -- and though I've decided against running OpenBSD, the default install put's up X perfectly... (Why??) wish I knew more... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 04:26:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CE01065792 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 04:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08568FC21 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 04:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn12 with SMTP id 12so1880625iwn.14 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:26:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6v3/xXlrSSVb07OoaJWZDcmu+PxQvxrVeS9ekSGT0NM=; b=MxLz50NdRItH4rHcIT+nWzY9uPDXdAWjvSjSa3jN1T9CcA+XCtfS8t4pBVIz4iFaoi h8Zfndx0rTuSCi0O+dfA60IAnz9xdOwdIWZFYTaWPvtONcqRqmtabdLjHj210EmzBwZQ /HaGumPBmUhytQig0SrtZzFRs15PjM1QYnb7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=h0xdBQxjuhgStYKUrqxiM3BtwOvqtOGFadYotvFPeHzwgBhzL/VyWG+U4kIzwEyZ68 xrL5qW/tELLktb25lr7dLNrh6MdDEcf9Jk2LYfRrKvlJgtK7n8u0wrmXIkREO5jj4g3k p6XDzwtFA/5bzfkkXQ21qPeuKwKWqXOrOndtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.152.209 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:26:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:26:34 -0600 Received: by 10.231.146.79 with SMTP id g15mr2458588ibv.49.1270441594863; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Henry Olyer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: under X, frozen keys, no mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 04:26:36 -0000 On 4/4/10, Henry Olyer wrote: > I installed FBSD 7.3 on an older Compaq box. It has a built-in video card, > this isn't a top of the line superfast machine. > > But it is important for me to press it into service. > > I tried using a couple of Option lines in xorg.conf, but no luck. Would be nice for you to mention what option lines you're talking about. This message is not detailed enough to accurately read your mind. > > so now my questions... > > Will FBSD 7.3 make use of xf86cfg or some such program. I ask because the X > --configure command has never worked for me; Not on any of five different > machines I've put FBSD on. X --configure doesn't itself install the xorg.conf file it creates. > > I'm not trying to do a sophisticated install either -- and though I've > decided against running OpenBSD, the default install put's up X > perfectly... (Why??) > A missing driver in freebsd that open puts on by default? again, too vague. > wish I knew more... as do I. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 04:45:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B401065670 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 04:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98C6F8FC23 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 04:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5277 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2010 04:45:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2010 04:45:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=nCN7p99UAghxwL9qs2dYPz1+OGtVrLqs+YIkHbj/DU5lHGkPHXfyDWK2D6NcLpgxd7EaC6ZwekwDr1VrCIxdR1wL2VCabkOvMAjoUnFu+e6FAu1TqK4Dy2/BL0i6Ni0o; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NyeBr-0002SY-37 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 22:45:36 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:44:47 -0600 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:44:47 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100405034447.GB17047@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404213302.GC47459@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Y7xTucakfITjPcLV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100404213302.GC47459@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Caution:: Off-topic Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 04:45:37 -0000 --Y7xTucakfITjPcLV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 02:33:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: >=20 > anybody know if we need a new C [[maybe D]] that would be > allowed to grow? There's already a D. I don't really know much about it, though. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Y7xTucakfITjPcLV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku5XK8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWEFACfZUH9Lu4PmiNXdIc7tv2Qxble 1igAn0emPgZwwqIfduVTIzG2IunLL4qw =OY1w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y7xTucakfITjPcLV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 05:42:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DFD106564A; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC30D8FC14; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o355gSUM083243; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:42:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:42:28 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20100405054228.GA1800@thought.org> References: <201004050114.o351ELJx016272@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201004050114.o351ELJx016272@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on ethic.thought.org Cc: glarkin@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, merlyn@stonehenge.com Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 05:42:34 -0000 On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 08:14:21PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 4 17:14:17 2010 > > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:13:49 -0700 > > From: Gary Kline > > To: "Randal L. Schwartz" , glarkin@freebsd.org, > > FreeBSD Mailing List > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: perl qstn... > > > > On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 10:58:35AM -1000, parv@pair.com wrote: > > > in message <20100404203951.GB47459@thought.org>, > > > wrote Gary Kline thusly... > > > > > > > > ---Maybe you can clue me in on this one: around a dozen years ago > > > > i somw found a recursive grep named tgrep online. to save tying, > > > > i renamed it "rgr". i can start anywhere and 'rgr pattern' > > > > --WITHOUT ANY ASTERISK-- will find any pattern and skip binary or > > > > tarballs or compressed files. given this, rgr has become my > > > > favorite utility, but since it doesn't have All of grep's > > > > options, yes, it's tru e, there are times whrn i have to use the > > > > real thing. i have searched for tgrep and cannot find a newer > > > > more complete version. would you or anyone reading this know > > > > where an upgraded version is? > > > > > > > > Here is the Usage string: > > > > > > > > p4 13:07 [5524] rgr > > > > Usage: tgrep [-iredblLnf] regexp filepat ... > > > > tgrep -h for help [[ ... ]] > > Google to the rescue. Given the program name, and the author, one finds that > this code was in "UNIX Power Tools" (O'Reilly * Assoc.) > right; i've got the power tools book front and center. it must have come with tgrep on a floppy. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 06:26:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D243106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64EFA8FC0C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Apr 2010 05:59:35 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp051) with SMTP; 05 Apr 2010 07:59:35 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Ygxp8EioYl2LArDZ93O1Bge6jBdtWxsbIVfDAm5 dqaU6JXSBG5arm Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:59:27 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: Henry Olyer Message-ID: <20100405055927.GA4791@sandcat> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.54000000000000004 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: under X, frozen keys, no mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:26:18 -0000 Henry, you may have installed xorg with the HAL-option on. If you want to try without it go to the /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server. Use #make config, switch off the HAL support and #make reinstall. Cheers herb langhans On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 10:54:03PM -0400, Henry Olyer wrote: > I installed FBSD 7.3 on an older Compaq box. It has a built-in video card, > this isn't a top of the line superfast machine. > > But it is important for me to press it into service. > > I tried using a couple of Option lines in xorg.conf, but no luck. > > so now my questions... > > Will FBSD 7.3 make use of xf86cfg or some such program. I ask because the X > --configure command has never worked for me; Not on any of five different > machines I've put FBSD on. > > I'm not trying to do a sophisticated install either -- and though I've > decided against running OpenBSD, the default install put's up X > perfectly... (Why??) > > wish I knew more... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 06:41:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E931065670 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BC58FC14 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1322003qwe.7 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:41:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: Henry Olyer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: under X, frozen keys, no mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:41:34 -0000 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Henry Olyer wrote: > I installed FBSD 7.3 on an older Compaq box. =A0It has a built-in video c= ard, > this isn't a top of the line superfast machine. > > But it is important for me to press it into service. > > I tried using a couple of Option lines in xorg.conf, but no luck. > > so now my questions... > > Will FBSD 7.3 make use of xf86cfg or some such program. =A0I ask because = the X > --configure command has never worked for me; =A0Not on any of five differ= ent > machines I've put FBSD on. > > I'm not trying to do a sophisticated install either -- and though I've > decided against running OpenBSD, the default install put's up X > perfectly... =A0(Why??) > > wish I knew more... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > add this line to your rc.conf hald_enable=3D"YES" and restart your machine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 06:52:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85110106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210048FC0A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 63AD21C0871 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:52:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BB988B5.7090906@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:52:37 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BB91FD5.3040403@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:52:40 -0000 On 05/04/10 01:35, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: > PasswordAuthentication is already disabled (by default). > I need to disable ChallengeResponseAuthentication however: > > /etc/ssh/sshd_config line 131: Directive 'ChallengeResponseAuthentication' > is not allowed within a Match block > > Same thing for "UsePAM no" (though I would like to keep pam for accounting > and session management) You can configure two daemons one with root access allowed and the other without. Let the one with root access allowed run on a non-standard port. BR, Erik -- Erik NÞrgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 08:08:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412A7106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049AB8FC15 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (unknown [188.46.173.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8068A1A0F for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:08:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BB99A84.60108@bsdforen.de> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:08:36 +0200 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100331 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: svn commit problems with sourceforge due to svn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:08:59 -0000 Hello, I'd like to commit my new release of sysutils/automounter to the sourceforge svn repository, so that I can branch the release. Unfortunately there seems to be a problem with OpenSSL: svn: Commit failed (details follow): svn: OPTIONS of 'https://bsdadminscripts.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bsdadminscripts/automounter': SSL negotiation failed: SSL disabled due to library version mismatch (https://bsdadminscripts.svn.sourceforge.net) It seems svn is linked to both the base system version of OpenSSL (0.9.8k) and the package (1.0.0): > ldd /usr/local/bin/svn |grep ssl libssl.so.7 => /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.7 (0x801c8f000) libssl.so.6 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.6 (0x803242000) I have no idea which version of OpenSSL is used by SF. Does someone know a workaround/fix? -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 08:24:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5B31065670 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD288FC18 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Nyhc4-000551-L2; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:24:52 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov To: Peter Steele References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B65FA89@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:24:52 +0400 In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B65FA89@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> (Peter Steele's message of "Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:38:53 -0500") Message-ID: <84707499@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: USB disk boot issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:24:55 -0000 On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:38:53 -0500 Peter Steele wrote: > We clone systems from specially prepared USB flash sticks and this all works well, except that occasionally the flash stick fails to boot. It fails at the "mount root" step, saying that it cannot mount the specified root partition. We use a labeled partition on the disk to make it device independent, so we have something like > /dev/label/usbroot / ufs rw 1 1 > in our fstab. When it fails it doesn't recognize this device, and even ? doesn't list it as one of the available devices. If we reboot, it's likely the problem won't occur again. It seems to be some kind of timing issue. Is this a known problem? You can try to solve the problem by: ----- # echo "kern.cam.boot_delay=10000" >> /boot/loader.conf ----- -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 08:57:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F151065676 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FC58FC0A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o358vHbq063642 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:57:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:57:17 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Imass References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Chad Perrin , Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:57:32 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 04/04/2010 19:48:14, Alejandro Imass wrote: > But honestly pun aside unless(){} is far more readable than if(!){} > and _especially_ if you are programming in an exception manner as you > correctly point out. Every language should have an unless construct. I've always found that 'unless' makes a great deal of sense when used in the alternate syntax: do_foo() unless $condition ; As far as I know, perl and its descendant ruby are the only programming languages that let you put the condition test after the action, despite this being exceeding familiar in human languages. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku5pe0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxiwwCfVV5FD7gYil3eIG67Cgh14Hlt hnkAnRRggI9Eq13y9eWJYFNzSOMNX546 =5jSW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 09:01:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E56106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5E98FC17 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o35918TQ063706 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:01:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BB9A6D4.8080604@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:01:08 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcin Wisnicki References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:01:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 04/04/2010 22:04:35, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: > Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: > > 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys > 2. Normal users will still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive Only by running two instances of sshd on different ports / IP numbers. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku5ptQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzONACeNdDCGVl8z+aqYx2s3N1IhMXx hOMAn0uQJYWRaOLeUR+Nz6npMyKz2hws =V0EV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 09:17:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF5E106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093DB8FC19 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.local ([10.0.0.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o359HCmr042312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:17:12 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BB9AA98.7030205@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:17:12 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BB9A6D4.8080604@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4BB9A6D4.8080604@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:17:14 -0000 On 05/04/2010 10:01, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 04/04/2010 22:04:35, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: > > Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: > > > 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys > > 2. Normal users will still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive > > Only by running two instances of sshd on different ports / IP numbers. > I missed the rest of this thread so sorry its its been said already. As far as I knew the directive PermitRootLogin without-password in /etc/ssh/sshd_config should accomplish what was requested. However a note later in the default sshd_config file regarding the UsePAM setting says 'Depending on your PAM configuration, PAM authentication via ChallengeResponseAuthentication may bypass the setting of "PermitRootLogin without-password".' So I'd be interested to know if by default this is the case. Vince > Cheers, > > Matthew > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 09:25:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D68F1065670 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:25:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1868FC23 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.local ([10.0.0.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o359PhkF042590 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:25:43 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BB9AC97.6020905@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:25:43 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BB9A6D4.8080604@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4BB9AA98.7030205@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4BB9AA98.7030205@unsane.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:25:45 -0000 On 05/04/2010 10:17, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > On 05/04/2010 10:01, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> On 04/04/2010 22:04:35, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: >> >>> Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: >>> >> >>> 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys >>> 2. Normal users will still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive >>> >> Only by running two instances of sshd on different ports / IP numbers. >> >> > I missed the rest of this thread so sorry its its been said already. As > far as I knew the directive > PermitRootLogin without-password > in /etc/ssh/sshd_config > should accomplish what was requested. > > However a note later in the default sshd_config file regarding the > UsePAM setting says > 'Depending on your PAM configuration, > PAM authentication via ChallengeResponseAuthentication may bypass > the setting of "PermitRootLogin without-password".' > > So I'd be interested to know if by default this is the case. > > And sure enough when I have a look in the archive, my suggestion has been discussed at length. sorry for noise. Vince > Vince > > > >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 10:53:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249421065675 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Received: from bobby.forestinformatics.com (cvo-cr1-200-239.peak.org [69.59.200.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79BD8FC19 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (rufus.forestinformatics.com [192.168.0.2]) by bobby.forestinformatics.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id o35Ar2eY000703; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:53:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) From: Jeff Hamann Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:53:18 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <9324CE26-ECF0-44AE-B685-EC76D1A0C1C1@forestinformatics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=failed version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on bobby.forestinformatics.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: setting sendmail.mc options? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:53:20 -0000 I'm sure this isn't the correct place for this question, but I'm not = sure where to go as I only use my FreeBSD Unleashed to admin my = sendmail.=20 I'm a newbie at this and could use a little help.=20 I'm trying to configure sendmail, using the freebsd port, to only relay = mail once a day (I hate emails every few minutes), and if possible to = hold outbound mail in the que (I think there's some que) until some = fixed time (like 7am) so that all my mail is transferred then.=20 I've tried adding: #sendmail_flags=3D"-bp -q480m" and #sendmail_flags=3D"-q120m" after my=20 sendmail_enable=3D"YES" and that didn't seem to work.=20 I've tried adding the following to my .mc file,=20 define( 'confMIN_QUEUE_AGE', '360m' )=20 to my mc files. I then typed, "make, make install, make restart" from = command line and it doesn't seem to change the behavior. I'm sure this is a trivial config, but I'm a newbie at this and could = use a little help.=20 Thanks, Jeff. Jeff Hamann, PhD PO Box 1421 Corvallis, Oregon 97339-1421 541-754-2457 jeff.hamann[at]forestinformatics[dot]com http://www.forestinformatics.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 10:58:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5E1106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s35.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s35.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BE48FC08 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP87 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s35.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:58:28 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.160.65] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.160.65]) by BLU0-SMTP87.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:58:21 -0700 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C065122839 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:58:26 -0400 From: Carmel NY To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201004050011.o350BgqF015947@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201004050011.o350BgqF015947@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2010 10:58:21.0875 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8364830:01CAD4AE] Subject: Re: Configuring IPFW IP range [FreeBSD-questions] {offlist} X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:58:30 -0000 On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:11:42 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi articulated: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 4 08:12:11 2010 > > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:11:47 -0400 > > From: Carmel NY > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Configuring IPFW IP range > > > > This is my first attempt at configuring IPFW. I have it up and > > running; however, I am not quite sure how to accomplish configuring > > it to block an IP range. > > > > Assume an IP range: 219.128.0.0 to 219.137.255.255 > > > > That is an actual range: CHINANET Guangdong province network > > > > I want to block the entire range. I am not sure how to do it in > > IPFW. I have read the 'man' pages; however, I am not getting the > > syntax correct since I cannot get the range added. > > > > CIDR ranges have to: (a) start on a 'power of 2' address, (b) be a > 'power of two' in size, and (c) be no larger than the 'power of 2' > factor for the starting address. This range is _not_ that way [fails > (b)], so you'll have to do it with multiple entries. > > i.e., one for "219.128.0.0/13" which will catch 219.128.0.0 - > 219.135.255.255 and a 2nd for "219.136.0.0/15" which will catch > 219.136.0.0 - 219.137.255.255 > > Life can get messier, when rule 3 comes into play, consider the block > 219.130.0.0 to 219.139.255.255 > > 219.130.0.0 is on a /15 boundary, so that's the max block size you > can use for tht starting address. > 219.130.0.0/15 catches 219.130.0.0 - 219.131.255.255 > next, you can start with 219.132.0.0, which is a /14, and block a /14 > wth 219.132.0.0/14 catches 219.132.0.0 - 219.135.255.255 > now, 219.136.0.0 is a /13 so you could block that big with just more > rule, if needed, (BUT, you only need another /14, to cover the > remainder of the group of 10 /16s that the initial block includes. > thus, lastly: 219.136.0.0/14 catches 219.136.0.0 - 219.139.255.255 Thanks! It was suggested that I try 'ipcalc' by another poster. I did, and it works excellently. In any case, I do have to familiarize myself more fully with IP addressing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 11:46:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC9B106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505b.appriver.com [98.129.35.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6B78FC08 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:46:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31220367; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:46:20 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:46:20 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:46:19 -0500 Thread-Topic: USB disk boot issues Thread-Index: AcrUmYe3V8EugxKOTzerSbHRc3x0pQAG3+lw Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7B50@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B65FA89@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <84707499@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <84707499@bb.ipt.ru> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: USB disk boot issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:46:22 -0000 >You can try to solve the problem by: >----- ># echo "kern.cam.boot_delay=3D10000" >> /boot/loader.conf >----- We've put a pretty sizeable delay already directly in the kernel. There is = now a noticeable pause before the mount root step is about to be performed.= We don't see the problem often now, but even with this delay it still occa= sionally happens. The problem is that when a system is rebooted programmati= cally there isn't anyone around to go to the console and reboot manually. I= t would be nice to be able to reboot a system and have confidence it will a= ctually reboot... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 10:20:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDF8106564A; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremie@le-hen.org) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D0B8FC12; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6569400EB; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:20:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from endor.tataz.chchile.org (tataz.chchile.org [82.233.239.98]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA22F940194; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:20:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from felucia.tataz.chchile.org (felucia.tataz.chchile.org [192.168.1.9]) by endor.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE0D33E4E; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by felucia.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE21CA1109; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:20:12 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen To: Peter Jeremy , Dan Naumov Message-ID: <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:55:21 +0000 Cc: Tim Judd , Jeremie Le Hen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:20:26 -0000 Hi Dan, Peter, Thank you for your enlightening replies. On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 10:40:35AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2010-Apr-04 23:54:55 +0200, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > >Yeah, you are right. I should have mentionned that I do not want > >necessarily a high-performance NAS, it's for home use so my premary > >concern is the low power consumption. This is why I want an Atom-based > >motherboard. > > Unfortunately, FreeBSD has some issues with low memory handling that > make FreeBSD/i386 a bad choice for ZFS. You would be far better off > running amd64 with as much RAM as you can fit onto the board. (And > this is one case where you want amd64 even if you don't have >4GB RAM). > Note that this doesn't mean you can't use an Atom - some Atoms include > EM64T - you just need to check. > > IMO, the biggest disadvantage of using an Atom in a ZFS NAS is the > lack of ECC support on the Atom. ZFS can detect bitflips in the > I/O sustem but you can still get screwed by a bitflip in RAM. > > >I'm still not sure about which motherboard to buy actually. After some > >additional reading, my leaning seems to go towards Intel's one as it is > >less expensive and consumes half the power of the Zotac's one (13W with > >a HDD [2] vs. 25W [3]). > > I'd recommend against buying anything with the Atom combined with a 945. > Whilst the Atom is low-power, the 945 isn't. That is also an older > motherboard using an older, superseded Atom. I suggest you look for > motherboards built around the new Pinetrail Atoms (which _do_ support > EM46T and hence can run amd64). > > Supermicro make a number of potentially suitable boards: > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPA.cfm > this is pricier but supports remote management - other options at: > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Atom/ > > If you want an Intel MB, search for BOXD510MO I think I will go for the Supermicro X7SPA-H. It seems a better hardware although it consumes more power. Nonetheless I'm a little worried by what you said about the lack of ECC. Computers has been used for years before ECC came out and obviously they worked :). Do you really think it might happen to be a problem? Would an Intel board would compensate for this? Dan, have you ever experienced weird problems that could be explained by bitflips? For the records, I've found an interesting and very recent post about someone running OpenSolaris on this Supermicro motherboard [1]. He uses a thumbdrive for the operating system and with four drives connected onto it, the whole system sucks 41 watts when idle (27 without any HDD, which is twice as the Intel D945GSE, but I guess this is the price for better performance). Now, it seems that OpenSolaris unfortunately has some problems with this hardware, but according to Dan, FreeBSD runs correctly on it. Thanks again for your help. Regards, [1] http://sorenragsdale.livejournal.com/19875.html -- Jeremie Le Hen Humans are born free and equal. But some are more equal than others. Coluche From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 12:17:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF9E106566B for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.221.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F508FC13 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so4425247qyk.3 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 05:17:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jsLmTqYFCFeYENVFD1jhkUqqVKwuuocghsVFbQamDCo=; b=jR9vbOH+fTanpnGlLj/4YQN9vwrVekStGa1SfgktSUpMzIB+4cRjIF0V2mitKh+71C J9hWn5c/v/9Ae0+uas4ZmtmcH5Q4IDTvLJ+P0IN6+G+XfiN0lNDiY6ovRE2Iq23kYglK h61kndlyhjvWKGMPwTcwGtWg9CGXj1f7C6YyM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=P4lKJLv4bwNyQQtJQbZyQfBXXMFk7S+BOeY0NSxDyeyrGMDewN+kKLr6e+y0B142hU dVO/wyRVHKzZdyP8HtxGrB81bHfnjKj3yrOxyqGMxfG9VQjaKCBo2pC0wEnNTEe3/vgN 9WWaY/wuSRzJCQRhE65eaHl38mZYpWX02ft5w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.89.17 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:17:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:17:19 -0400 Received: by 10.229.236.16 with SMTP id ki16mr7356289qcb.68.1270469839083; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 05:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Henry Olyer To: Masoom Shaikh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: under X, frozen keys, no mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:17:20 -0000 I see: Setting master xclock: not found Dropping master While the root screen has: drm0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster info: [drm] AGP at 0xf0000000 128NB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 I have: hald_enable=YES in the boot up conf file (/boot/loader.conf) and Option "AutoAddDevice" Off Option "IgnoreEmptyInput" Off in the xorg.conf file On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Masoom Shaikh wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Henry Olyer wrote: > > I installed FBSD 7.3 on an older Compaq box. It has a built-in video > card, > > this isn't a top of the line superfast machine. > > > > But it is important for me to press it into service. > > > > I tried using a couple of Option lines in xorg.conf, but no luck. > > > > so now my questions... > > > > Will FBSD 7.3 make use of xf86cfg or some such program. I ask because > the X > > --configure command has never worked for me; Not on any of five > different > > machines I've put FBSD on. > > > > I'm not trying to do a sophisticated install either -- and though I've > > decided against running OpenBSD, the default install put's up X > > perfectly... (Why??) > > > > wish I knew more... > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > add this line to your rc.conf > hald_enable="YES" > and restart your machine > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 12:59:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACD4106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.221.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030648FC08 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so3906116qyk.13 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 05:59:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UFg6VnzHPEvLf7eDqCD5qZKnn7z8LUNyuR2SkU4OokQ=; b=wtF+zo80bRLqcO6iHXqgibnooqdBK7qV+c5rbpswS2h/xq+qk33ExevbO50UbWM1B4 DxI80StNm2Zrwnl8FoGNy6Np47MRal7Dsar+u0rw8zkYmMyNr8GPG2QeJcw4lKbxSy8c X21IvM8oyEuoxXLpLw7ZhV4QHyNywOPHmpVD0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Bn7IIuHvjMFvuW5Ohm8h7KWUFmblr9so+uOMvRfpZ9REn2kKd2yHLpFgq8WsmkSWMX RqP7vlPqYxyCpgEDmk0U2lomDi8B0o5sXqpOqWCbuuciWzOwTdiYdrr8MOGoRNzRaty7 sa8cFHAgsjUygRBYWTiOWHWEXTKdqRYCxJnTw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.29.19 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:59:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:29:19 +0530 Received: by 10.224.65.133 with SMTP id j5mr2006957qai.344.1270472359197; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 05:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: Henry Olyer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: under X, frozen keys, no mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:59:21 -0000 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Henry Olyer wrote: > I see: > > Setting master > xclock: not found > Dropping master > > While the root screen has: > > drm0: =A0 on vgapci0 > > vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster > > info:=A0 [drm]=A0 AGP at 0xf0000000 128NB > > info:=A0 [drm]=A0 Initialized i915 1.6.0 > > > I have: > > hald_enable=3DYES > > in the boot up conf file (/boot/loader.conf) this line was advised to be placed in /etc/rc.conf, NOT /boot/loader.conf or you did a typo while writing this mail ? > > and > > Option "AutoAddDevice" Off > > Option "IgnoreEmptyInput" Off > > in the xorg.conf file > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Masoom Shaikh > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Henry Olyer wrot= e: >> > I installed FBSD 7.3 on an older Compaq box. =A0It has a built-in vide= o >> > card, >> > this isn't a top of the line superfast machine. >> > >> > But it is important for me to press it into service. >> > >> > I tried using a couple of Option lines in xorg.conf, but no luck. >> > >> > so now my questions... >> > >> > Will FBSD 7.3 make use of xf86cfg or some such program. =A0I ask becau= se >> > the X >> > --configure command has never worked for me; =A0Not on any of five >> > different >> > machines I've put FBSD on. >> > >> > I'm not trying to do a sophisticated install either -- and though I've >> > decided against running OpenBSD, the default install put's up X >> > perfectly... =A0(Why??) >> > >> > wish I knew more... >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> >> add this line to your rc.conf >> hald_enable=3D"YES" >> and restart your machine > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 13:02:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290351065672 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39818FC1A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1387909qwe.7 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:02:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bip4g1zP1ifvDiQbG9moOEp8LpV8W6F7vOVQRpI+mEg=; b=vO1mGnwTG8+JqQfRsEXj+QnfYpwU+HakzQr9Ta1GjAr2AQx54hr/n8dJzClVn6GpQv zbfsFBCwirk6KphKel4eoDz08bEL9f63+YQJfUYH6XfBP7VcgdOdhwEI1jkCEKKYD/ZY rpDEgcufax1RVu/HMxRHHWiFrVRurv7o/mmig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sm7rrXTDMy8qTxOzZ6nQv17C3bMo+w8pjGtzvFOqqxBRtX4giB0BkZcKuVTBt6fN8g 51yXgSLjBZ5OKIvbG7yBQ+lLW6xErO9I7nplBPIDYZY7r7fSnu9vLhjcwcR3eY1KYAmG qCKN9tVov9/TmVREgmwvbyxnpQjSQNKA8dTqg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.29.19 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:02:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530 Received: by 10.224.36.86 with SMTP id s22mr2004199qad.185.1270472577938; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com, Leslie Jensen , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:02:59 -0000 On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts wrote: > Hello Leslie, > =A0 =A0 =A0Good to hear from you.., > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html >> >> /Leslie >> > > I had a look at the thread - thanks.., > > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its > compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually states that= it > supports windows 7. I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now > > Or, am I missing something? > > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers to a > document that is based on windows vista, but will review this as well. > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > S Roberts > > >> >> >> >> > Hello, >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to where I >> > can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 pre-installed >> > machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, please? >> > >> > Any assistance is appreciated. >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > S Roberts >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 13:14:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD67F106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F6F8FC16 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nym7v-0002C0-3E; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:14:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:15:13 +0100 From: S Roberts To: Masoom Shaikh Message-ID: <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:14:05 -0000 Hi Masoom, Good to hear from you.., On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530 Masoom Shaikh wrote: > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts > wrote: > > Hello Leslie, > > =A0 =A0 =A0Good to hear from you.., > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.ht= ml > >> > >> /Leslie > >> > > > > I had a look at the thread - thanks.., > > > > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its > > compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually > > states that it supports windows 7. >=20 > I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now >=20 That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added** FreeBSD, please? Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did you select, please? Thanks! Regards, S Roberts > > > > Or, am I missing something? > > > > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers to > > a document that is based on windows vista, but will review this as > > well. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Regards, > > > > S Roberts > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hello, > >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to > >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 > >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, > >> > please? > >> > > >> > Any assistance is appreciated. > >> > > >> > Thanks. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > S Roberts > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 13:19:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD108106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F008FC08 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NymD4-0003bC-GI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:19:22 +0200 Received: from static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl ([78.8.147.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:19:22 +0200 Received: from mwisnicki+freebsd by static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:19:22 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marcin Wisnicki Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:19:07 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <4BB9A6D4.8080604@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:19:24 -0000 On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:01:08 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/04/2010 22:04:35, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: >> Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: >> >> 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys 2. Normal users will >> still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive > > Only by running two instances of sshd on different ports / IP numbers. > Thanks for all reponses. I've finally solved it by configuring PAM to deny root. Unfortunately all of pam modules in base system that can do it, deny login only in "account" phase which is too late for sshd. I've modified pam_securetty to also provide "auth" facility. For anyone interested, here is a patch: --- /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_securetty/pam_securetty.c 2010-02-18 00:12:28.000000000 +0100 +++ pam_securetty/pam_securetty.c 2010-04-05 04:47:21.000000000 +0200 @@ -45,2 +45,3 @@ +#define PAM_SM_AUTH #define PAM_SM_ACCOUNT @@ -54,2 +55,24 @@ PAM_EXTERN int +pam_sm_authenticate(pam_handle_t *pamh, int flags, + int argc, const char *argv[]) +{ + const char *user; + int r; + + if ((r = pam_get_user(pamh, &user, NULL)) != PAM_SUCCESS) + return (r); + + return (pam_sm_acct_mgmt(pamh, flags, argc, argv)); +} + +PAM_EXTERN int +pam_sm_setcred(pam_handle_t *pamh __unused, int flags __unused, + int argc __unused, const char *argv[] __unused) +{ + + return (PAM_SUCCESS); +} + + +PAM_EXTERN int pam_sm_acct_mgmt(pam_handle_t *pamh __unused, int flags __unused, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 13:26:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D90106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAC88FC08 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NymJw-00036U-Iw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:26:28 +0200 Received: from static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl ([78.8.147.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:26:28 +0200 Received: from mwisnicki+freebsd by static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:26:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marcin Wisnicki Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <4BB99A84.60108@bsdforen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Subject: Re: svn commit problems with sourceforge due to svn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:26:31 -0000 On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:08:36 +0200, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to commit my new release of sysutils/automounter to the > sourceforge svn repository, so that I can branch the release. > > Unfortunately there seems to be a problem with OpenSSL: svn: Commit > failed (details follow): > svn: OPTIONS of > 'https://bsdadminscripts.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bsdadminscripts/automounter': > SSL negotiation failed: SSL disabled due to library version mismatch > (https://bsdadminscripts.svn.sourceforge.net) > > It seems svn is linked to both the base system version of OpenSSL > (0.9.8k) and the package (1.0.0): >> ldd /usr/local/bin/svn |grep ssl > libssl.so.7 => /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.7 (0x801c8f000) libssl.so.6 => > /usr/lib/libssl.so.6 (0x803242000) > > I have no idea which version of OpenSSL is used by SF. It does not matter. > > Does someone know a workaround/fix? Deinstall openssl package and rebuild svn. Alternatively you could try mapping one of them to another in libmap.conf(5), but it may not work or cause troubles. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 13:31:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497E5106566B for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.221.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A318FC0C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so3932339qyk.13 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:31:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EZGNK/lPi/sKpKKSBiVo8TumuDA2HHLyQVly84UDlGQ=; b=rcueHCTKZ9N/k9ABz+qGpmnxXwfaHGydRuZqJ3Ax5fLACurauUakM8+YttTim0jFOq rmMD8S3icZZC9yrs7M+dIEW5fFmSqaNs6puNgWNqhYTK2hm1lV/KenPRwj/yyxe4PlZa tJ9fFlI3p6BQs3HBBBnFp15gZ3nTMbyUWMckA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LcVCf88s05pZejXBCcnzagxCWaZjcBXD9s4VICNPUO26VwKxmGUdIdKIbv6wkpHK4e 502Nv8rHv2c3VIxhU9NTMYMW6pPpbNP8Yye7ieyd3+yPjQLw2FHDQiGoVSswf9XbgMtV KI5oMZpkA2AFlFkHq3rI4xW87gFNq1hRPG/GE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.29.19 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:24:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530 Received: by 10.224.83.85 with SMTP id e21mr2022751qal.227.1270473852375; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: S Roberts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:31:30 -0000 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts wrote= : > Hi Masoom, > =A0 Good to hear from you.., > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530 > Masoom Shaikh wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts >> wrote: >> > Hello Leslie, >> > =A0 =A0 =A0Good to hear from you.., >> > >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.h= tml >> >> >> >> /Leslie >> >> >> > >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks.., >> > >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its >> > compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually >> > states that it supports windows 7. >> >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now >> > > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a > pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added** > FreeBSD, please? Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions, part1(c:) - NTFS part2(d:) - FAT32 part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console as free space Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can read/w= rite do not want to use fusefs first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to add FreeBSD as another entry remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR. have fun!! > > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did you > select, please? don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > S Roberts > > >> > >> > Or, am I missing something? >> > >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers to >> > a document that is based on windows vista, but will review this as >> > well. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > S Roberts >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hello, >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to >> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 >> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, >> >> > please? >> >> > >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks. >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > S Roberts >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 13:31:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D01F106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AB28FC1B for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NymPA-0005hp-VJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:31:52 +0200 Received: from static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl ([78.8.147.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:31:52 +0200 Received: from mwisnicki+freebsd by static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:31:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marcin Wisnicki Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <4BB99A84.60108@bsdforen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Subject: Re: svn commit problems with sourceforge due to svn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:31:54 -0000 On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:26:16 +0000, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:08:36 +0200, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > >> >> It seems svn is linked to both the base system version of OpenSSL >> (0.9.8k) and the package (1.0.0): >>> ldd /usr/local/bin/svn |grep ssl >> libssl.so.7 => /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.7 (0x801c8f000) libssl.so.6 => >> /usr/lib/libssl.so.6 (0x803242000) > > >> Does someone know a workaround/fix? > > Deinstall openssl package and rebuild svn. > Also if the problem is reproducible - that is, svn being linked to both versions of openssl if package is installed, you should definitely file a bug against devel/subversion port. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 13:42:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23517106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B5D8FC18 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NymZN-0007zg-Ep; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:42:25 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:43:36 +0100 From: S Roberts To: Masoom Shaikh Message-ID: <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:42:27 -0000 Hello Masoom, On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530 Masoom Shaikh wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts > wrote: > > Hi Masoom, > > =A0 Good to hear from you.., > > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530 > > Masoom Shaikh wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts > >> wrote: > >> > Hello Leslie, > >> > =A0 =A0 =A0Good to hear from you.., > >> > > >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> >> > >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158= .html > >> >> > >> >> /Leslie > >> >> > >> > > >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks.., > >> > > >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that > >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually > >> > states that it supports windows 7. > >> > >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now > >> > > > > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a > > pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added** > > FreeBSD, please? >=20 > Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions, > part1(c:) - NTFS > part2(d:) - FAT32 > part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console > as free space >=20 > Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can > read/write do not want to use fusefs >=20 > first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to > add FreeBSD as another entry > remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR. >=20 Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None Leave Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did **NOT** find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr? Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected, and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs. Thanks again, Masoom. Regards, S Roberts > have fun!! >=20 > > > > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did > > you select, please? >=20 > don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that >=20 > > > > Thanks! > > > > Regards, > > > > S Roberts > > > > > >> > > >> > Or, am I missing something? > >> > > >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers > >> > to a document that is based on windows vista, but will review > >> > this as well. > >> > > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > S Roberts > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Hello, > >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to > >> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 > >> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, > >> >> > please? > >> >> > > >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks. > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards, > >> >> > > >> >> > S Roberts > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 13:44:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC0D106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB938FC13 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nymat-0000NO-Dh; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:43:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:45:10 +0100 From: S Roberts To: Masoom Shaikh Message-ID: <20100405144510.00006d94@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:44:01 -0000 Hello Masoom, On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530 Masoom Shaikh wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts > wrote: > > Hi Masoom, > > =A0 Good to hear from you.., > > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530 > > Masoom Shaikh wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts > >> wrote: > >> > Hello Leslie, > >> > =A0 =A0 =A0Good to hear from you.., > >> > > >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> >> > >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158= .html > >> >> > >> >> /Leslie > >> >> > >> > > >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks.., > >> > > >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that > >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually > >> > states that it supports windows 7. > >> > >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now > >> > > > > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a > > pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added** > > FreeBSD, please? >=20 > Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions, > part1(c:) - NTFS > part2(d:) - FAT32 > part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console > as free space >=20 > Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can > read/write do not want to use fusefs >=20 > first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to > add FreeBSD as another entry > remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR. >=20 Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None Leave Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did **NOT** find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr? Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected, and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs. Thanks again, Masoom. Regards, S Roberts > have fun!! >=20 > > > > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did > > you select, please? >=20 > don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that >=20 > > > > Thanks! > > > > Regards, > > > > S Roberts > > > > > >> > > >> > Or, am I missing something? > >> > > >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers > >> > to a document that is based on windows vista, but will review > >> > this as well. > >> > > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > S Roberts > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Hello, > >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to > >> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 > >> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, > >> >> > please? > >> >> > > >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks. > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards, > >> >> > > >> >> > S Roberts > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 14:02:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C904B106564A; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265468FC0C; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2977898bwz.3 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=a0v0spvbIfs7wkXuPLEu2IKqeg+kBTB9UbDcpkrZhM0=; b=u8G9r5jmJniFk4JrtgF7hATIaw3nb0i8JKEAtyZbrdVwDg+fjs8gYgze9maCbSyDl+ +729t9RuRijBea50a9Qk485FcLbV0/Wr0Dt2EV2o/oznOMEqG00PiP/0QFeomUTogKQH gZLv4mSfMc/Al8yZbb5YkhQdWAfdzVemQTfJ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U9hIohjni1f9SIqpS6pNyYTUAZ+XSRbB4f8BouSpvcYzcRLnBC7h/EPK0xMBYtFXm3 Yruub5g3VubZ0yJA3hmBTrBnnLnG4TJlvwnxK6lpLEdXcAKKm9sKTHLoqsMhG36wqdvW s1mhyRMPxEey4tAuCeufCsffW/fG9BXh3H/Lo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.203 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:02:13 +0300 Received: by 10.204.75.35 with SMTP id w35mr6398511bkj.194.1270476133182; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: Jeremie Le Hen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Tim Judd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Peter Jeremy , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:02:15 -0000 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > Nonetheless I'm a little worried by what you said about the lack of ECC. > Computers has been used for years before ECC came out and obviously they > worked :). =A0Do you really think it might happen to be a problem? =A0Wou= ld > an Intel board would compensate for this? =A0Dan, have you ever > experienced weird problems that could be explained by bitflips? Personally, I haven't had any issues, but then again on the ZFS scale of things, both my current pool size (2 TB) and projected pool size when I add more disks (6 TB) is pretty small. If this was a heavily used machine with a 10 TB pool or bigger, I would definately give strong consideration to ECC. > For the records, I've found an interesting and very recent post about > someone running OpenSolaris on this Supermicro motherboard [1]. =A0He use= s > a thumbdrive for the operating system and with four drives connected > onto it, the whole system sucks 41 watts when idle (27 without any HDD, > which is twice as the Intel D945GSE The power draw (from the wall) for the Supermicro X7SPA-H without any disks attached is as following: 26W - During boot. 24W - IDLE at console 28W - Full load This is with a 80+ rated Corsair 400CX PSU. Sadly, I did not have the opportunity to measure the power draw with powerd enabled. The D945GSE is unsuitable for use as a ZFS NAS due to it's severe feature limitations when compared against the X7SPA-H, of biggest concern would be the limitation of RAM, followed by the amount of native SATA ports, followed by the fact that you only get a PCI-E x1 (both physical formfactor and speed-wise) slot for expansion, while most controller cards are either 4x or 8x, meaning they simply wouldn't physically fit into the slot. Singlecore 1,6Ghz Diamondville Atom VS Dualcore 1,66Ghz Pineview Atom 1 RAM socket supporting a max of 1GB VS 2 RAM sockets supporting a max of 4GB (note that X7SPA-H uses SO-DIMMs, not regular DIMMs) 2 SATA ports vs 6 SATA ports 1 Realtec NIC vs 2 x Intel NIC PCI-E x1 Slot VS PCI-E x4 Slot (in x16 form factor) for expansion - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 14:07:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3193D106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1665D8FC16 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A71D764CF; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Matthew Seaman References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.4.9; tzolkin = 1 Muluc; haab = 2 Pop Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:07:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:57:17 +0100") Message-ID: <867homm1qf.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Alejandro Imass , Polytropon , Chad Perrin , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:07:53 -0000 >>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman writes: Matthew> As far as I know, perl and its descendant ruby are the only Matthew> programming languages that let you put the condition test after Matthew> the action, despite this being exceeding familiar in human Matthew> languages. Except, we old-timers remember that Larry Wall directly lifted this from RSTS-E BASIC-PLUS, which he had used at Pacific University as a student. Having hacked BASIC-PLUS myself around the same time, I recognized it instantly. BASIC-PLUS went further though, allowing them to be nested. So you'd end up with monstrosities like: PRINT a IF a % 3 = 2 FOR a = b TO b+7 FOR b = 0 TO 90 STEP 10; Thankfully, Larry limited Perl's statement modifiers to precisely one level. :) Just another old geezer, -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 15:08:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D25C1065673 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walterk1@earthlink.net) Received: from pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4911E8FC14 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from user-0c6sn0e.cable.mindspring.com ([24.110.92.14] helo=[192.168.0.100]) by pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Nynuw-0000M3-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:08:46 -0400 Message-ID: <4BB9FCFB.40103@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:08:43 -0500 From: Walter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: ftp giving url but i want the IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:08:47 -0000 I want to parse ftp error messages in auth.log and use the ip address in inserting a block into ipfw. It works, except when ftpd spits out the host-specific url rather than the ip. Adding "-h" to the ftpd command in inet.conf didn't help. Can someone tell me how to do this, or point me to code (C) to convert it? Thanks. I'm off-list so please reply directly. Walter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 15:10:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8B81065694 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CA78FC20 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o35FAlEC020505; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:10:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o35FAlNt020502; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:10:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:10:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: S Roberts In-Reply-To: <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown> Message-ID: References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:10:47 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Masoom Shaikh , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:10:48 -0000 On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, S Roberts wrote: > Hello Masoom, > >>>> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now >>> >>> That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a >>> pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added** >>> FreeBSD, please? EasyBCD worked for me on a preinstalled Vista machine, adding FreeBSD 8. And of course Vista is just Win7 alpha. >> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can >> read/write do not want to use fusefs >> >> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to >> add FreeBSD as another entry >> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR. >> > > Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None Leave > Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did **NOT** > find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr? No problem for me. > Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few > people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected, > and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs. There's a relatively rare bug in sysinstall, but even if there wasn't, you should still back up the existing MBR and the whole Windows partition before you add another OS. For backup, you can use the FreeBSD livefs and dd, but clonezilla or partimage are faster. Clonezilla automatically saves a separate copy of the MBR, AFAIR. http://www.clonezilla.org/ http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 15:20:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C979F106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:20:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97D798FC15 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7420 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2010 15:20:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2010 15:20:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=JvJ5vKZkXXRK1uUEbnhSS57LtUQojRd0r5NIDSPs6VLR/bCjUm0schN8uaPrWxlynnohAWM79ez03rAQ3tUW4PtRfPuQZxjGpoSD7K0QbXOBKIie9Npxgej2dYDibbxr; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nyo6f-00022F-J9; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:20:54 -0600 Message-ID: <4BB9FFB9.2080503@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:20:25 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Walter References: <4BB9FCFB.40103@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <4BB9FCFB.40103@earthlink.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig166BD931DFA1720D9156CE2E" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Cc: Questions Subject: Re: ftp giving url but i want the IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:20:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig166BD931DFA1720D9156CE2E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/05/10 10:08, Walter wrote: > I want to parse ftp error messages in auth.log and use the > ip address in inserting a block into ipfw. It works, except > when ftpd spits out the host-specific url rather than the ip. > Adding "-h" to the ftpd command in inet.conf didn't help. > Can someone tell me how to do this, or point me to code > (C) to convert it? >=20 > Thanks. I'm off-list so please reply directly. >=20 > Walter Would it be possible to wrapper everything in a script that uses a single ping (ping -c 1) to pull the resulting IP address from the output? For example: ping -c 1 google.com PING google.com (74.125.47.103): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 74.125.47.103: icmp_seq=3D0 ttl=3D53 time=3D111.391 ms --- google.com ping statistics --- 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev =3D 111.391/111.391/111.391/0.000 ms seeing how that's the standard output for ping, couldn't you use grep and a regex to grab the IP either from the parenthesis or that first line? Of course there might be an easier way and/or better tool than ping to do this. CCing the list to get a discussion going as I imagine such a script could have other uses. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. 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Schwartz" Message-ID: <20100405143140.GA4557@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: "Randal L. Schwartz" , Matthew Seaman , Alejandro Imass , Polytropon , Chad Perrin , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <867homm1qf.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <867homm1qf.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:22:25 +0000 Cc: Alejandro Imass , Polytropon , Chad Perrin , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:29:48 -0000 in message <867homm1qf.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, wrote Randal L. Schwartz thusly... > > >>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman > >>>>> writes: > > Matthew> As far as I know, perl and its descendant ruby are the > Matthew> only programming languages that let you put the > Matthew> condition test after the action, despite this being > Matthew> exceeding familiar in human languages. > > Except, we old-timers remember that Larry Wall directly lifted this > from RSTS-E BASIC-PLUS, which he had used at Pacific University as a > student. Having hacked BASIC-PLUS myself around the same time, I > recognized it instantly. > > BASIC-PLUS went further though, allowing them to be nested. So > you'd end up with monstrosities like: "Beauty is in the eye ...", or, perhaos you would prefer "Only a mother would ...". > PRINT a > IF a % 3 = 2 > FOR a = b TO b+7 > FOR b = 0 TO 90 STEP 10; Oh Randal, don't tease me please about the lack of such loveliness in perl. - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 14:47:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DB51065670 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:47:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tristan@tristan.cz.cc) Received: from blu0-omc2-s11.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s11.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CBD8FC28 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP97 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s11.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:35:07 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [24.36.115.36] X-Originating-Email: [tristan@tristan.cz.cc] Message-ID: Received: from tristanPC ([24.36.115.36]) by BLU0-SMTP97.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:35:06 -0700 From: "tristan" To: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:35:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CAD4AB.A823B910" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2010 14:35:07.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FE213D0:01CAD4CD] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:23:07 +0000 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:47:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CAD4AB.A823B910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How would i go about compiling the FreeBSD source code (to build my own) = in an Ubuntu machine? 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smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31838FC1E for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NyoBD-0004gy-VV; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:25:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:26:46 +0100 From: S Roberts To: Warren Block , Masoom Shaikh Message-ID: <20100405162646.00000b79@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:25:39 -0000 Hello Warren, Great to hear from you.., On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:10:47 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, S Roberts wrote: > > Hello Masoom, > > > >>>> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now > >>> > >>> That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with > >>> a pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added** > >>> FreeBSD, please? > > EasyBCD worked for me on a preinstalled Vista machine, adding FreeBSD > 8. And of course Vista is just Win7 alpha. > Understood - only realized this over the past 24 hours., > >> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes > >> can read/write do not want to use fusefs > >> > >> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use > >> EasyBCD to add FreeBSD as another entry > >> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR. > >> > > > > Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None > > Leave Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did > > **NOT** find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the > > mbr? > > No problem for me. > > > Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few > > people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected, > > and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs. > > There's a relatively rare bug in sysinstall, but even if there > wasn't, you should still back up the existing MBR and the whole > Windows partition before you add another OS. > > For backup, you can use the FreeBSD livefs and dd, but clonezilla or > partimage are faster. Clonezilla automatically saves a separate copy > of the MBR, AFAIR. > That's excellent information. I was unsure of the status of sysinstall's integrity as far as the efficacy of these option selections. Will have a go shortly. Regards, S Roberts > http://www.clonezilla.org/ > http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 15:26:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931231065673 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f197.google.com (mail-pz0-f197.google.com [209.85.222.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6189B8FC0C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk35 with SMTP id 35so71791pzk.3 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:26:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VsN7kVjMdo87FQwiJzATwE/DIEZhJcS6VgT99LCkUrs=; b=xbv5xI3R28b11iqccJMoopiKWh6smIMRI6rhzss629oGBPm48m5eI02Q+fCV8q9uAL j93TYL4ZLXgsL+rGiPAOxjU+BlKUWcm//lMWpWjn7zkZX5GvTBn5l8aV/5QZbOg1A0WB XXJaR5ZA3E3bWKzC9qHaQkhmfE/4uZ0GcgIYQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SoPS3Q6WvlSFuo1ucCfrYAXapD3iWB7P5MipI/1p2Y/WaRzQ0iduFGoQs4o+K9H9fN Z+Ltu3m5dnjPsrb5MG77uH+E2olr6+E4fNSxXsUYPrTV65KT9X29DO0x/TvPViDSdfuj Ef5wJOQBrMlKZI1FhA/9gluwh/ZrchpzsZQoI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.166.18 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:26:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown> References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:56:39 +0530 Received: by 10.141.124.5 with SMTP id b5mr3786943rvn.68.1270481199948; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: S Roberts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:26:40 -0000 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:13 PM, S Roberts wrote= : > Hello Masoom, > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530 > Masoom Shaikh wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts >> wrote: >> > Hi Masoom, >> > =A0 Good to hear from you.., >> > >> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530 >> > Masoom Shaikh wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hello Leslie, >> >> > =A0 =A0 =A0Good to hear from you.., >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg22915= 8.html >> >> >> >> >> >> /Leslie >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks.., >> >> > >> >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that >> >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually >> >> > states that it supports windows 7. >> >> >> >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now >> >> >> > >> > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a >> > pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added** >> > FreeBSD, please? >> >> Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions, >> part1(c:) - NTFS >> part2(d:) - FAT32 >> part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console >> as free space >> >> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can >> read/write do not want to use fusefs >> >> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to >> add FreeBSD as another entry >> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR. >> > > Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None Leave > Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did **NOT** > find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr? > > Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few > people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected, > and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs. yes, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-April/056100.ht= ml thread is actually correct, for me it is fresh install, in your case it is little tricky to get it stra= ight for a fresh install you can install FreeBSD first then Win7, and then use EasyBSD. done. i guess, i have done that too. i.e. installed FreeBSD after Win7, then used Win7 CD to repair but take care, it can fail with that irritating send, don't send dialog box so here is one trick if you got guts to try :). I recently got saved with this trick you have Win7 pre-installed, now free up some space and let FreeBSD install, select the option "do not touch mbr". Next boot you will find Win7 gone. Boot from Win7 CD and let it install at same location where it is/was installed. Setup will warn you of already existing installation. It might additionally say that it will move old installation to "Windows.old" folder. Ignore this warning and let setup continue. If I remember correctly the second option is Extracting Windows Files(percentage). Let it come to second step and execute it for a 5 mins, then cancel the setup, ignore all warning and it will undo all changes, but by that time it will already have fixed the bootloader problem. After you cancel setup, give it all time it needs to undo, don't force reboot/power down. hope this will enable you too install FreeBSD, a great development environm= ent have fun! > > Thanks again, Masoom. > > Regards, > > S Roberts > >> have fun!! >> >> > >> > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did >> > you select, please? >> >> don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that >> >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > S Roberts >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > Or, am I missing something? >> >> > >> >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers >> >> > to a document that is based on windows vista, but will review >> >> > this as well. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks! >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > S Roberts >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hello, >> >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to >> >> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 >> >> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, >> >> >> > please? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Regards, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > S Roberts >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 15:46:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53E2106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23A88FC0C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NyoVL-0001Uy-Ul; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:46:29 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025B53DF2C06; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4BBA05D1.50203@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:46:25 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Walter References: <4BB9FCFB.40103@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <4BB9FCFB.40103@earthlink.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) Cc: Questions Subject: Re: ftp giving url but i want the IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:46:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Walter wrote: > I want to parse ftp error messages in auth.log and use the > ip address in inserting a block into ipfw. It works, except > when ftpd spits out the host-specific url rather than the ip. > Adding "-h" to the ftpd command in inet.conf didn't help. > Can someone tell me how to do this, or point me to code > (C) to convert it? > > Thanks. I'm off-list so please reply directly. > > Walter > _______________________________________________ Hi Walter, Did you send a HUP signal to inetd so it rereads the config file? kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid` Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFLugXR0sRouByUApARAv00AJ9Ci0rwzG4cMBTQr9d50Lk4T6iXwwCgrtoJ p8rszot7YctmhKv0B2QpraE= =E9/c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 15:46:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF0B1065672 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8498FC12 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o35FkQeg048217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:46:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BBA05D2.3040906@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:46:26 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tristan References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:46:32 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/04/2010 15:35:05, tristan wrote: > How would i go about compiling the FreeBSD source code (to build my > own) in an Ubuntu machine? (windows 7 is also available). What > programs do i need? Really you need FreeBSD already installed if you want to compile FreeBSD from source. If you've got a spare partition of about 5GB or more[*] then you can install there, boot into FreeBSD and away you go. Everything you need to know about doing that is described in the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ If you haven't got a spare partition then vmware or VirtualBox or some other virtualization solution are alternatives. However, if you want to use that to do a v-to-p migration, be aware that you'll probably want to re-tune the kernel to better match the physical, and it may well be a lot less hassle just to install directly on the physical server. > Were can i download the source code? ftp.freebsd.org and mirrors all round the world. It's also available on the installation .iso images. Although you will find it considerably more useful to use csup(1) or freebsd-update(1) from a FreeBSD box to grab more recent patch-levels. Cheers, Matthew [*] which is enough to install FreeBSD and still have a usable amount of space left over -- quart-in-a-pint-pot types will no doubt follow up explaining how they've managed to install FreeBSD on something unfeasibly small. - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku6BdIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzbGgCfRfntqD5plPb62wJhWgykMWlG EhcAnjo7Kp3bUFzPEYvhEmkcVbvgtmHm =84zK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 15:47:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FCC1065678 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nekoexmachina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8ADD8FC19 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so2763254fxm.13 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=TckF6IqTZzWCK8wGn7Lbv3dbfUi2uaVMYmqt0S/+hXw=; b=goVoGKLPexLyiFm6IWoTEpOqzL4UK04DwyufFlUB4dyZjj/nDNd5QK+cl1muNA95zP /O/IMAaXxGE/j0w1sUiHF/0JHFf9i9FaVXBJZ973IXXAMv1XmLnMqs9W2s2zJTf3EUCJ /MG3hDmrLahIwtffs0fh1f+4Es5/k8qX7chcE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=sb5ZIqC0W1Exxnc8a2Ah3JIoMqv7yQOVc6nLfDGsLYwV5ekcb72hCgKpujrNitIpfo b3r7QzsLhegLlvCfmtkDLBbEu7xpOGGH+krPy2eZg8p4+b4xEFqoNJjyCrwvNgoCS2a2 WyILljKB4qIDFrKCRt5Lce30SCzLPquPOcTlc= Received: by 10.223.47.130 with SMTP id n2mr1798972faf.55.1270482468879; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([188.134.12.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y15sm26775003fkd.38.2010.04.05.08.47.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:45:51 +0400 From: Mikle Krutov To: tristan Message-ID: <20100405154551.GA2927@takino.homeftp.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:47:50 -0000 On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 10:35:05AM -0400, tristan wrote: > How would i go about compiling the FreeBSD source code (to build my own) in an Ubuntu machine? (windows 7 is also available). What programs do i need? Were can i download the source code? Why do even need this? Also, i doubt any one had such an expirience before. -- Wbr, Krutov Mikle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 16:05:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF830106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942258FC14 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6428C10EE01; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:08:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C2TO3vH7-a1b; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:08:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC4710EDFE; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:08:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BBA0A56.9020908@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:05:42 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Masoom Shaikh References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , S Roberts Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:05:50 -0000 > so here is one trick if you got guts to try :). I recently got saved > with this trick > > you have Win7 pre-installed, now free up some space and let FreeBSD > install, select the option "do not touch mbr". Next boot you will find > Win7 gone. Boot from Win7 CD and let it install at same location where > it is/was installed. Setup will warn you of already existing > installation. It might additionally say that it will move old > installation to "Windows.old" folder. Ignore this warning and let > setup continue. If I remember correctly the second option is > Extracting Windows Files(percentage). Let it come to second step and > execute it for a 5 mins, then cancel the setup, ignore all warning and > it will undo all changes, but by that time it will already have fixed > the bootloader problem. After you cancel setup, give it all time it > needs to undo, don't force reboot/power down. > > hope this will enable you too install FreeBSD, a great development environment > have fun! I would use the fixboot command to fix this, or boot from PartedMagic CD and set the boot flag on that partition. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 16:07:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D27C106566B; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C598FC1A; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NyopP-0002jx-Ao; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:07:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:08:18 +0100 From: S Roberts To: Masoom Shaikh , FreeBSD Mailing List , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100405170818.00001dc7@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:07:09 -0000 Hello Masoom, On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:56:39 +0530 Masoom Shaikh wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:13 PM, S Roberts > wrote: > > Hello Masoom, > > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530 > > Masoom Shaikh wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts > >> wrote: > >> > Hi Masoom, > >> > =A0 Good to hear from you.., > >> > > >> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530 > >> > Masoom Shaikh wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Hello Leslie, > >> >> > =A0 =A0 =A0Good to hear from you.., > >> >> > > >> >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229= 158.html > >> >> >> > >> >> >> /Leslie > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks.., > >> >> > > >> >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that > >> >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that > >> >> > actually states that it supports windows 7. > >> >> > >> >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now > >> >> > >> > > >> > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off > >> > with a pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then > >> > **added** FreeBSD, please? > >> > >> Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions, > >> part1(c:) - NTFS > >> part2(d:) - FAT32 > >> part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management > >> console as free space > >> > >> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes > >> can read/write do not want to use fusefs > >> > >> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use > >> EasyBCD to add FreeBSD as another entry > >> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR. > >> > > > > Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None > > Leave Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did > > **NOT** find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the > > mbr? > > > > Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few > > people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected, > > and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs. >=20 > yes, > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-April/056100.html > thread is actually correct, for me it is fresh install, in your case > it is little tricky to get it straight for a fresh install you can > install FreeBSD first then Win7, and then use EasyBSD. done. >=20 Wiping the machine as you suggest is not an option.=20 This is a new, windows 7 preinstalled machine that came with **NO** windows 7 install disks. > i guess, i have done that too. i.e. installed FreeBSD after Win7, then > used Win7 CD to repair > but take care, it can fail with that irritating send, don't send > dialog box >=20 I'd have like to have known this earlier.., I wasn't set to start until later this evening, so I guess its good to have found this out now. > so here is one trick if you got guts to try :). I recently got saved > with this trick >=20 > you have Win7 pre-installed, now free up some space and let FreeBSD > install, select the option "do not touch mbr". Next boot you will find > Win7 gone. Boot from Win7 CD and let it install at same location where > it is/was installed. Setup will warn you of already existing > installation. It might additionally say that it will move old > installation to "Windows.old" folder. Ignore this warning and let > setup continue. If I remember correctly the second option is > Extracting Windows Files(percentage). Let it come to second step and > execute it for a 5 mins, then cancel the setup, ignore all warning and > it will undo all changes, but by that time it will already have fixed > the bootloader problem. After you cancel setup, give it all time it > needs to undo, don't force reboot/power down. >=20 > hope this will enable you too install FreeBSD, a great development > environment have fun! >=20 As I said above, the machine did not come with windows 7 installation media included. W Block earlier referred to the sysinstall mbr issue as a "rare bug", but if you have yourself encountered this bug 6 months ago, then it would appear to have been broken for a long time. A search of PRs show; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:37:58 GMT: bin/86600: sysinstall(8): Sysinstall boot manager screen is misleading Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:03:41 -0800 (PST): bin/121124: sysinstall(8): FreeBSD 6.3 installation deletes MBR partition Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:11:51 GMT: bin/129771: sysinstall(8): 7.1 RC1 sysinstalls installs boot0 even when told not to I've been managing FreeBSD servers for years now, so I guess this type of issue did slip through my attention gap - even so, going by the earliest date there, seems like this ball has been dropping for a long time :-/ Thanks for the suggestions, Masoom. Regards, S Roberts > > > > Thanks again, Masoom. > > > > Regards, > > > > S Roberts > > > >> have fun!! > >> > >> > > >> > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options > >> > did you select, please? > >> > >> don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that > >> > >> > > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > S Roberts > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Or, am I missing something? > >> >> > > >> >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also > >> >> > refers to a document that is based on windows vista, but will > >> >> > review this as well. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks! > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards, > >> >> > > >> >> > S Roberts > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Hello, > >> >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me > >> >> >> > to where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a > >> >> >> > windows-7 pre-installed machine (single disk) in a > >> >> >> > dual-boot set up, please? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thanks. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Regards, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > S Roberts > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> >> >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 16:09:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D14D1065675 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tristan.navi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F568FC0C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so2776907fxm.13 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:09:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:from:date :received:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=2VAxyQZizEO8cTrjkYbdSlXKJVmVHQY+O3ks8Wq2ZPY=; b=RooQUSby8VpLpl4cmEm8QJ/F81UBKGCidCPBRNXtzaTscUW8LU3k6XKP3q1jDJal7X lR4Isl6EX3BoM1PB7EuahaiGjLH+ov6OLfxeDiLjZ6FZ/ZrcemtY02WxLym7g8oSx6V6 HmweRNUnFxsj2ZRR7UFHwctEHT2lqM42y0BI0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=il4ORxps1NCM5zbtOt3Mij0QUVRJ4UOWixn7KeU+q/4GscbIORA76+ruI+gvNFSbI/ EkdNxUetUFcNvCk205GohLNL2JjTn3NUs627vCfSASGzmr4iCBLr49XLI1/88NPgSH54 yR23Vg1mXQ+a8mvQd0DN3yjWMkDGH2BWk+lqU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.179.139 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:41:19 -0700 (PDT) From: tristan Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:41:19 -0400 Received: by 10.239.132.204 with SMTP id 12mr549874hbs.128.1270482099506; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:14:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: theme X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tristan.navi@mybestmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:09:34 -0000 In some FreeBSD pictures, i see a dock at the bottom. how do i get this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 16:16:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DA0106566B for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walterk1@earthlink.net) Received: from pop-altamira.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-altamira.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407018FC12 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from user-0c6sn0e.cable.mindspring.com ([24.110.92.14] helo=[192.168.0.100]) by pop-altamira.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1NyoyK-0007ZH-00; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:16:20 -0400 Message-ID: <4BBA0CD1.40108@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:16:17 -0500 From: Walter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org References: <4BB9FCFB.40103@earthlink.net> <4BBA05D1.50203@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4BBA05D1.50203@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Questions Subject: Re: ftp giving url but i want the IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:16:21 -0000 Greg Larkin wrote: >Hi Walter, > >Did you send a HUP signal to inetd so it rereads the config file? > > kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid` > >Hope that helps, >Greg > > I actually rebooted (after a boo-boo). So, Yes, inetd was restarted. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 16:26:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14DE106566B for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680948FC0A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:26:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 35271988 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:26:20 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:26:21 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:26:19 -0500 Thread-Topic: How to create a "base" distribution set? Thread-Index: AcrU3LlGRH0ZqLxrSSSfzg40ZPfpwg== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7CC7@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to create a "base" distribution set? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:26:22 -0000 One of the distribution sets that comes on a standard release DVD is "base"= . This includes the core set of binaries as well as the files under /etc an= d a few other text files. Running "make installworld" doesn't collect every= thing that's needed. Is there a make option to gather all of the files? I a= ssume something like "make release" might do that but I don't want to run a= full release build, I just want to create the base distribution set. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 16:27:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3351065670 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78198FC0C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvc7 with SMTP id 7so1942181pvc.13 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:27:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3y0rDfEeG3IcyYdXlzY0SgD+HXX2HoiZkaBtChQpezw=; b=DJa6PV84D+XPerUQKR34Sn6hwrgVrcwuLmE5pZ8+8Ajo9Rhc+Z4aabYgoXykkaorWY JQdIprwOBoLk0Yo029eu8Z459/1TOOEa16QfsVo1bMmAG+5MUQJSKzOVi89A1ZGPcbjI HZYEOuEiohYD8mW3tO7jcrqNYRd6B7pG/MRiY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=qCzv2p4OXrrUuyQhXvA0SDk57nuJbmMdhL64hSImAHpOPzHdQ4M9S88ArzqyFcn52h TDUEQ/7UIcyLUXVdIhiI0lTJctDiuvjhwL7n8seemV3Je85jIEk0F+hmszq7im8diivE DegC3X7TRkyW+Rgt/kiXDIk+9vw8nfn2hBVUA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:27:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:27:49 -0600 Received: by 10.143.194.3 with SMTP id w3mr1853521wfp.308.1270484869457; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Modulok To: tristan.navi@mybestmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: theme X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:27:50 -0000 Could you post a link to an example image? It sounds like you're describing the features of a window manager of some sort, in which case that would be a separate program. Examples of window managers/desktop environments would include fluxbox, gnome, awesome, kde, etc. It could be any one of them, depending on what the author of the said picture was using. -Modulok- On 4/5/10, tristan wrote: > In some FreeBSD pictures, i see a dock at the bottom. how do i get this? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 16:36:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDE0106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:36:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDE78FC14 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1722490wyb.13 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:36:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xa2vJOufDoYXKMo1PVVmfuRr7oC1y5DUxsxrgJmreNk=; b=clR27jflEU5czC3CejZPLYhBFdQndsEuWlCoIodY5SlwRMQBS21Gc6LkbaOWAR77r8 MXCdzSF/stEJm7c1HjUSO3+y25Vo5v5z23Dqo1ZRXxgYSZURtL2lKeku040Xh7s2IjcG 0YKAMLIfIHrIogVW9l/o9sXxaZRoeZ9yLDN1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tgHBHMhz/h1Grpm0LbMak6Q0235b6HqIxLdomewjlauMBRBnBFgj8Dd+W4ZkbaN7ZP OVAiZIuC4lDwBWyf8eQFXl8eOTBDlWirYWrO93VBapXV1T6o5cq1qoqqPnFx8eNYKG6z PEilRo4Q5dDxrplDOn1dyxBegNjjBR/xNrmX8= Received: by 10.216.90.145 with SMTP id e17mr3521332wef.106.1270485396242; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x6sm25293461gvf.27.2010.04.05.09.36.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:36:32 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:36:37 -0000 On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:57:17 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I've always found that 'unless' makes a great deal of sense when used > in the alternate syntax: > > do_foo() > unless $condition ; > > As far as I know, perl and its descendant ruby are the only > programming languages that let you put the condition test after the > action, IMO this is a bad mistake that other languages were quite right not to copy - a test shouldn't come after a block of code unless it's evaluated after the block (as in repeat...until) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 16:40:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA58106566B for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFAE8FC12 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvc7 with SMTP id 7so1951904pvc.13 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:40:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5u1FoD6a14kfycMnt31WFPoGWzFS9/lEdJ2t/Xfutlc=; b=hqXzl0A51sbIUmaGtLPNo50gmUl8Q6CTjPsZgqmFw+5AQHMkaBZZS7fm33xWTPURab CDd8AHA+ziB68p+hT0nUSGXQln2NNLGW1fLt9F7cOLI81liHbwC97nkwo6paJA5AUp0v mtRr7YhplEKgVkP8Nlbig+pcRsHzoZnTe9LM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=N4/FsoQJ2Vk39ThJAGg8/Yy4AOM7XK3656BRrXc8G2Zt7Eh/t2Fp4DH4wlKllRHRc1 +CbVBmanzTkyuplMQRe+ILg2Z1lrIR/2H+yWrNJpkAwcGnq6EruiFsU/zoiEbuZz7YSY znRIKMcv3riCeKELaHmbPwbMyt9rWNghZpqa4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.131.20 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:39:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4BB9A6D4.8080604@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:39:59 -0600 Received: by 10.143.86.8 with SMTP id o8mr1913574wfl.344.1270485600015; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Modulok To: Marcin Wisnicki Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:40:00 -0000 You should also consider posting your patch and related content to, 'freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org'. -Modulok- On 4/5/10, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:01:08 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 04/04/2010 22:04:35, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: >>> Is it possible to configure sshd such that both conditions are met: >>> >>> 1. Root will be able to login only by using keys 2. Normal users will >>> still be able to use pam/keyboard-interactive >> >> Only by running two instances of sshd on different ports / IP numbers. >> > > Thanks for all reponses. > I've finally solved it by configuring PAM to deny root. > Unfortunately all of pam modules in base system that can do it, > deny login only in "account" phase which is too late for sshd. > I've modified pam_securetty to also provide "auth" facility. > > For anyone interested, here is a patch: > > --- /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_securetty/pam_securetty.c 2010-02-18 > 00:12:28.000000000 +0100 > +++ pam_securetty/pam_securetty.c 2010-04-05 04:47:21.000000000 +0200 > @@ -45,2 +45,3 @@ > > +#define PAM_SM_AUTH > #define PAM_SM_ACCOUNT > @@ -54,2 +55,24 @@ > PAM_EXTERN int > +pam_sm_authenticate(pam_handle_t *pamh, int flags, > + int argc, const char *argv[]) > +{ > + const char *user; > + int r; > + > + if ((r = pam_get_user(pamh, &user, NULL)) != PAM_SUCCESS) > + return (r); > + > + return (pam_sm_acct_mgmt(pamh, flags, argc, argv)); > +} > + > +PAM_EXTERN int > +pam_sm_setcred(pam_handle_t *pamh __unused, int flags __unused, > + int argc __unused, const char *argv[] __unused) > +{ > + > + return (PAM_SUCCESS); > +} > + > + > +PAM_EXTERN int > pam_sm_acct_mgmt(pam_handle_t *pamh __unused, int flags __unused, > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 16:40:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632441065673 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f197.google.com (mail-pz0-f197.google.com [209.85.222.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFDC8FC17 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk35 with SMTP id 35so150897pzk.3 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:40:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8VdtERJMb0C5RrbAWGhNGTMic1yvMGhXd9DYC77R3Qs=; b=mDsmewryC4+aap3ukk+JFNROwM6stqbCWSOfgF68cDLKy8RiTbn1EZM/QfXNkryC55 p3U7TdCOGstW/HAab2ZC3a3UXMX7FnQ1/zTPDLIDFsd64DnVRGuYfFZzN+T3TN/wOq94 TakqGaVd27izo+h6m1ikA5WuP2E2gV5lGZJLo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qgqe6QezQNBUyrJu77QyL2ZdDAi/pel5oJd50lx5H8rb3UG+OnIpE+r5OQhV20oU8r rh4iwNJZ9ii75OmLmeJ4PZQ4RlkzGoxUSof4OmZ8QGaI3Ss96mwK2ad398vnvQbDyKez Dr8El8NK9XhHTiCFTw3Gd00XnwwL5jKcNiHQ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.166.18 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:40:44 +0000 Received: by 10.140.248.16 with SMTP id v16mr3923838rvh.230.1270485644953; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: why use diablo JDK/JRE ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:40:45 -0000 what is the need for FreeBSD Foundation to maintain dialbo JDK/JRE binaries when packages for openjdk are available on ftp servers ? ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8-stable/java/openjdk-7.0.86.tbz stupid me, never realized, just assumed that openjdk binaries cannot be distributed I always used to download diablo, then build openjdk :( such a waste of time/effort From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 17:01:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6138106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDBD8FC14 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn12 with SMTP id 12so2281821iwn.14 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:01:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qfnxiD3MLfSaxam79aWMGUrsAfg8jPnsjqSo4UVCtOM=; b=P8OfRJZ4DMI2OnVKHc9K3JTqFJiY8vk3jYVK7muZBMCJ59Ami/3r1bH+XxAq+U2mRj Z9WT329E4+pBYLzspq28wdIY5njZUsRbKuuJnmK8Fqg9dH4qWmiHK08pJqgW/EGYlQZp P2G4Pd7krNBdn/XIxr3FhOyyemyx9AGtDxeb8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=rB8zkKVNsddjt9n+Cnky3bE1i12Yhv0Qka9t7wWQjM7IH6MSsb/AFSWI7r2ZCbIWJV rcn5hvgULhKm6bzw30uFkvtc3LEsiOLPJC7ESU+fiODoaJUqmA2OkJX/7ZsABu9BJwTM eY7Oma8Qh8DOFgSJQJ3KC/JrlCUngIRc5CJX0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.152.209 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:01:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7CC7@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7CC7@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:01:03 -0600 Received: by 10.231.59.5 with SMTP id j5mr2805652ibh.6.1270486863308; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Peter Steele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to create a "base" distribution set? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:01:05 -0000 On 4/5/10, Peter Steele wrote: > One of the distribution sets that comes on a standard release DVD is "base". > This includes the core set of binaries as well as the files under /etc and a > few other text files. Running "make installworld" doesn't collect everything > that's needed. Is there a make option to gather all of the files? I assume > something like "make release" might do that but I don't want to run a full > release build, I just want to create the base distribution set. > I use make distribution in /usr/src to create the rest of the /etc files. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 17:03:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9916106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E668FC1D for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:03:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31286012 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:03:13 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:03:09 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:03:08 -0500 Thread-Topic: How customized can an mfsroot be? Thread-Index: AcrU4d2wks1YKrZQRt6bugO/P/nNNg== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:03:15 -0000 We have a USB boot stick based cloning process that we're considering porti= ng to a DVD based media. I'm not sure though that it's possible due to the = restrictions I've seen in the mfsroot environment we'd have to use. For exa= mple, in our USB disk procedure, we create partitions using gpart and set u= p mirroring for the OS partitions. We even recognize 3Ware controllers and = automatically create logical RAID sets from the available drives. In some e= arlier work I did with a pxe boot server a couple of years ago, I know that= I could not setup mirrors via sysinstall and I assume that hasn't changed = in FreeBSD 8. Is it possible to customize the mfsroot environment to run a = larger variety of commands to allow us to duplicate the cloning process we = use with USB boot sticks or is this project likely not doable? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 17:07:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F731065672 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2058FC14 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Apr 2010 13:07:02 -0400 Received: from mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.54]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id QPS73115; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Apr 2010 13:06:47 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19386.6310.331950.363182@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:06:46 -0400 To: Masoom Shaikh In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: why use diablo JDK/JRE ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:07:04 -0000 Masoom Shaikh writes: > what is the need for FreeBSD Foundation to maintain dialbo JDK/JRE > binaries when packages for openjdk are available on ftp servers ? > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8-stable/java/openjdk-7.0.86.tbz > > stupid me, never realized, just assumed that openjdk binaries cannot > be distributed > I always used to download diablo, then build openjdk :( > such a waste of time/effort As far as I know, openjdk does not provide browser plugins. If that's not a problem .... Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 17:21:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FE5106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D8C8FC0A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:21:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.45 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht03.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.45] (HELO HT03.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31289990; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:21:49 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by HT03.exg5.exghost.com ([10.242.228.75]) with mapi; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:21:46 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: Tim Judd Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:21:45 -0500 Thread-Topic: How to create a "base" distribution set? Thread-Index: AcrU4ZfOnll+JBr3TZilnu98qsT8uAAAs6Zg Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D25@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7CC7@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: How to create a "base" distribution set? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:21:47 -0000 >I use make distribution in /usr/src >to create the rest of the /etc files. That seems to be exactly what I need. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 17:38:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526121065670 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enlil65@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFA28FC08 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so2618906wwb.13 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:38:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aCH+FKjOvKDrSMD/J6MbnqSoqX9mbJGPbEt8CwvyQ8w=; b=A+6gYjJ3dFqQdEbF00DgE9ukH1xqF5zN5Q4iFh+qFPZ7JRjvCSA3UwLlMoM2+sIY3c r5+XpEu8B4RPe+N64oPayVaIIm98ibmseffAQ5rK7Ip0Wa9gOAkdjiwf0lpJfW3XBBQ8 ThvmRwQflY++1+Y/ndXdnAUt/TjM0Y696yQ8c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ikAAeY2JU82pdVQ4M8E6zhO1EIHT5YJZgg/f3jbai0trLrx/bFwAV12tggCttPpoVT 3RpBpBdeeEMBmJzwZR/4ynvksWakWd/RTYXmbdxS8Jm2IUZQPm+9mICmqIbN01gpx/jf 3+DIeTuNR3xIEzAErXe8dW1DbwkTToeYAB2mA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.154.142 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:38:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BB9AA98.7030205@unsane.co.uk> References: <4BB9A6D4.8080604@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4BB9AA98.7030205@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:38:01 -0500 Received: by 10.216.87.7 with SMTP id x7mr3182610wee.53.1270489081601; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Peggy Wilkins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:38:03 -0000 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > I missed the rest of this thread so sorry its its been said already. As > far as I knew the directive > PermitRootLogin without-password > in /etc/ssh/sshd_config > should accomplish what was requested. > > However a note later in the default sshd_config file regarding the > UsePAM setting says > 'Depending on your PAM configuration, > =A0PAM authentication via ChallengeResponseAuthentication may bypass > the setting of "PermitRootLogin without-password".' That PAM comment in sshd_config got my attention a number of years ago, so I did a lot of testing of various sshd/pam settings to try and understand what could happen and to try and make some sense out of it. My configurations: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config: PermitRootLogin without-password UsePAM yes in /etc/pam.d/sshd: # auth: open policy: allow OPIE, ldap, and unix password auth sufficient pam_opie.so no_warn no_fake_pro= mpts auth requisite pam_opieaccess.so no_warn allow_local auth sufficient /usr/local/lib/pam_ldap.so no_warn try_first_pass auth required pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_p= ass Using this configuration I have thoroughly tested on both FreeBSD-7 and (more recently) FreeBSD-8 and root is allowed in via ssh with public key auth only; typing the unix password at it gets permission denied for keyboard-interactive. Non-root users are allowed in via either LDAP password or local unix password as expected. I haven't configured OPIE for root, but it wouldn't bother me if it worked for root in this setup since its design addresses why passwords are insecure in the first place. I use this in production on all my systems and haven't changed any other of FreeBSD's default configurations for sshd. I haven't gone so far as to check source code to see why this works as it does. I'm guessing that PAM may allow passwords for root via something that isn't pam_unix since by design PAM can allow anything. But when using pam_unix, at least, it does observe the without-password setting for root. As always YMMV, but I am happy with this tested setup and so I use it with confidence. Peggy Wilkins Sysadmin, The University of Chicago Library From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 17:49:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F46106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2D38FC15 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NyqPw-00029o-Jz; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:49:01 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22823DF3DE1; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:48:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4BBA2288.70003@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:48:56 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Walter References: <4BB9FCFB.40103@earthlink.net> <4BBA05D1.50203@FreeBSD.org> <4BBA0CD1.40108@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <4BBA0CD1.40108@earthlink.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) Cc: Questions Subject: Re: ftp giving url but i want the IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:49:03 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Walter wrote: > Greg Larkin wrote: > >> Hi Walter, >> >> Did you send a HUP signal to inetd so it rereads the config file? >> >> kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid` >> >> Hope that helps, >> Greg >> >> > I actually rebooted (after a boo-boo). So, Yes, inetd was > restarted. Ok, just wanted to make sure. After quickly reviewing the ftpd code, I didn't see a way to disable hostname lookups. Instead of standard ftpd, give lukemftpd a try. I tested it briefly, and failures are reported like so: ....: FTP LOGIN FAILED FROM 192.168.xxx.yyy Finally, instead of writing your own parsing script, sshguard monitors your FTP logs, SSH logs and other services that you want to protect with pf auto-blocking: http://www.freshports.org/security/sshguard/ Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFLuiKI0sRouByUApARAsr8AJ9ga+GSfIYzIU0+v6tDx9OIIHzkhQCdH5bY Sv/zbtezw0kL/EYGmWmbmFk= =6RL/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 18:04:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71351065672 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3BE8FC08 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o35I4Jc7021117; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:04:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o35I4JZi021114; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:04:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:04:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: S Roberts In-Reply-To: <20100405170818.00001dc7@unknown> Message-ID: References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown> <20100405170818.00001dc7@unknown> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:04:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Masoom Shaikh , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:04:20 -0000 On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, S Roberts wrote: > This is a new, windows 7 preinstalled machine that came with **NO** > windows 7 install disks. It's nice to make the first boot of a factory-fresh system from a backup CD like clonezilla and back up all of the partitions on the drive. That's before allowing them to boot into the manufacturer Windows setup. (PS: please trim your responses. Thanks.) -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 18:10:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11F61065679 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walterk1@earthlink.net) Received: from pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA5A8FC16 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:10:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from user-0c6sn0e.cable.mindspring.com ([24.110.92.14] helo=[192.168.0.100]) by pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Nyqkx-0005WI-00; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:10:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4BBA279D.7010102@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:10:37 -0500 From: Walter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Walt Pawley , Questions References: <4BB9FCFB.40103@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: ftp giving url but i want the IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:10:42 -0000 On 4/5/10 10:08 AM -0500, Walter wrote: >Walter, > >I do some similar sounding things for my gateway just to >keep the logs from filling up with attack drivel. But it's >not quite the same problem as your question, so I don't do >what I'm about to recommend - it's more complex, involving >several formats, IPv4 and IPv6. > >If, by "host-specific url" you mean the name associated with >the IP address, you should be able to get the IP address by >using the "host" command. > > "host xxxxxxx" does the trick. Thanks. But another user has suggested a ready-built package, which I'll look into before coding it to work in my program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 18:12:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D6B106566C; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walterk1@earthlink.net) Received: from pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE818FC1E; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from user-0c6sn0e.cable.mindspring.com ([24.110.92.14] helo=[192.168.0.100]) by pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Nyqmx-0001py-00; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:12:43 -0400 Message-ID: <4BBA2819.3050802@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:12:41 -0500 From: Walter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org References: <4BB9FCFB.40103@earthlink.net> <4BBA05D1.50203@FreeBSD.org> <4BBA0CD1.40108@earthlink.net> <4BBA2288.70003@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4BBA2288.70003@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Questions Subject: Re: ftp giving url but i want the IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:12:44 -0000 Greg Larkin wrote: >Instead of standard ftpd, give lukemftpd a try. I tested it briefly, >and failures are reported like so: > >....: FTP LOGIN FAILED FROM 192.168.xxx.yyy > >Finally, instead of writing your own parsing script, sshguard monitors >your FTP logs, SSH logs and other services that you want to protect with >pf auto-blocking: http://www.freshports.org/security/sshguard/ > >Hope that helps, >Greg > > sshguard sounds like what I'm building! Their's isn't as simple as mine is, but that's natural for a mature product. I'll give it a look and maybe pick it up. Thanks! Walter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 18:31:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C869106564A; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (worf.ds9.tecnik93.com [81.196.207.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93F28FC0A; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (it.buh.tecnik93.com [81.196.204.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 53E1722C50B9; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:31:34 +0300 (EEST) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:31:33 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Message-ID: <20100405213133.3b29591f@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20100328163828.1f34e0e7@it.buh.tecnik93.com> References: <20100328163828.1f34e0e7@it.buh.tecnik93.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/KrEoMQLIzaORITZ3E0vZ8aO"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:31:36 -0000 --Sig_/KrEoMQLIzaORITZ3E0vZ8aO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a status update: PNG and cURL are in, and png fall-outs are believed to be fixed. Xorg update has gone through an -exp run on Pointy and our xorg team is working on fixing the approx. 60 ports with problems. I will begin -exp runs for Gnome and KDE updates tonight or tomorrow morning. Packages status: - i386:=20 - 6 after png and curl - 7 after png and curl - an 8 incremental build is in progress and should be shortly finished - 9 pacakges are from middle March - amd64: - 6 packages are post png and curl - 7 build is in progress and will be finished tomorrow - 8 last build was done in the middle of the png update/fixes; we won't run an other before Xorg, KDE and Gnome go in (for lack of resources). - 9 build in progress (with sources that are believed to fix the zlib problem). In other words, if you wish to update without waiting for Xorg, Gnome and KDE now it's a good moment. HTH, --=20 IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B --Sig_/KrEoMQLIzaORITZ3E0vZ8aO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku6LIUACgkQJ7GIuiH/oeXUoACeN1l0oU2gB1qXz9NVTXW1Sohd twIAnRyOx3DPT0IjZpAW/C3uvb+Xk856 =1XJM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/KrEoMQLIzaORITZ3E0vZ8aO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 18:35:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3081065672 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE758FC13 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nyr8m-0006U1-7N; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:35:16 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:36:23 +0100 From: S Roberts To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20100405193623.000002fe@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown> <20100405170818.00001dc7@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: Masoom Shaikh , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:35:19 -0000 Hello Warren, On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:04:19 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, S Roberts wrote: >=20 > > This is a new, windows 7 preinstalled machine that came with **NO** > > windows 7 install disks. >=20 > It's nice to make the first boot of a factory-fresh system from a > backup CD like clonezilla and back up all of the partitions on the > drive. That's before allowing them to boot into the manufacturer > Windows setup. >=20 I can imagine. The machine was set up with the windows 7 install on half of the disk, and is already set up with the work-related commercial apps (visio, ip comm, borland, etc) that I can't get away from, so I am where I am at the moment as far as the window 7 section of this dual-boot plan is concerned. =46rom where I sit, with (at least) three PRs already in for sysinstall's broken boot manager config, and with one going back as far as 2005, its not looking likely that anyone is interested in fixing this problem anytime soon. Thanks. Regards, S Roberts > (PS: please trim your responses. Thanks.) >=20 > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 18:55:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6C21065670 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3608FC17 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-100-7.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.100.7]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A87D3D331; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:55:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o35ItOCF001589; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:55:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:55:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: tristan.navi@mybestmail.com Message-Id: <20100405205524.f369fd4f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tristan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: theme X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:55:28 -0000 On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:41:19 -0400, tristan wrote: > In some FreeBSD pictures, i see a dock at the bottom. how do i get this? When reading "a dock", NeXT-oriented window managers such as WindowMaker come into mind (which I am traditionally using, but with the dock on the right). Others may see XFCE (version 3) and Xfce (version 4) which both have a dock, allthough it may be named differently. If you're thinking about a dock as Mac OS X implements it, you can do this with the Avant Window Navigator (AWN). I'm currently trying to do *this* with FreeBSD: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44-part-2/ Maybe it gives you some inspiration or further hints. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 19:28:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DB61065673; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:28:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19EB8FC08; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so2929834fxm.13 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:28:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1y/jKNCz6KefogLz0AyvkEYV9W0g8zh6WGqvzmc8dLU=; b=V3U3aEN0i4U2oT6LXOPcOj3E1EQaStTmGDXb9uQPrUQXYlDUSkyUlyedN0YI4fZyUK v/ZitK9gLC7118lMqPSpes70pELnK7XbOvtOmSv5w0my3qXRA5qjJDrxfGjXjBvMAo/s bfakjHW7RPpFAe2i2BelXrnCq3XW7V+MECI08= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=aPV9TBF7M7/C1YyMi7LAZsnGQzsjgJgIwByiObsHJAg9Zyso3NzAkfhwnAviaZKk1I f4WMjOvihRf/JdwEAhrWHMgYaIPXs9N2/zcU7iyLuT9mYBEUXChMgxDjPzYM1wLvqFZ1 KtnIE7BDA6Zncf5xc8bdlwjXnnYGwtHG1z1Lc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.251.11 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:05:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100405213133.3b29591f@it.buh.tecnik93.com> References: <20100328163828.1f34e0e7@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20100405213133.3b29591f@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:05:35 -0500 Received: by 10.103.67.38 with SMTP id u38mr3205700muk.107.1270494335467; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:28:20 -0000 Ion-Mihai, Does this fix the following issue? I have installed FreeBSD 8.0 and updated it to current p2 I try to use konqueror and I get There was an error loading the module About-Page for Konqueror. The diagnostics is: Cannot load library /usr/local/kde4/lib/kde4/konq_aboutpage.so: (Shared object "libjpeg.so.10" not found, required by "libkhtml.so.7") Other programs like kile and k3b don't work because of the same message or others. I did not know about this, otherwise I would not have tried to install these programs in the first place, till the coast was clear :( Thanks though, I saw the message a little bit late :( Regards, Antonio On 4/5/10, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > Just a status update: > > PNG and cURL are in, and png fall-outs are believed to be fixed. > > Xorg update has gone through an -exp run on Pointy and our xorg team is > working on fixing the approx. 60 ports with problems. > > I will begin -exp runs for Gnome and KDE updates tonight or tomorrow > morning. > > > Packages status: > - i386: > - 6 after png and curl > - 7 after png and curl > - an 8 incremental build is in progress and should be shortly finished > - 9 pacakges are from middle March > - amd64: > - 6 packages are post png and curl > - 7 build is in progress and will be finished tomorrow > - 8 last build was done in the middle of the png update/fixes; we > won't run an other before Xorg, KDE and Gnome go in (for lack of > resources). > - 9 build in progress (with sources that are believed to fix the zlib > problem). > > > In other words, if you wish to update without waiting for Xorg, Gnome > and KDE now it's a good moment. > > > HTH, > > -- > IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" > "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" > FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 19:31:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101B51065674; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEF48FC16; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1519394qwe.7 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:31:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=x0+6DWTGFW+m+p6KJ+NBARLhgcJ4atlC1yiLF13wnPA=; b=dPgsp91JxAvMoHVbtMNgJF4QvYam/zhmebp799JL/Pt5mOvt8Tfq+pxB5Md3elnV2Q k7roa3Uc4Rasmb8p6SeUH27GbQKuPVvL/KniedaoiTJ9VQwFjUgpbUeid89DqAAb3YB6 w4GG43XBzcA/rBaPCujfxhtyA+dSsyT4M59r0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sENQAoDeiKYQ/MaHkRCItWc+IfBQo0LAZV71iY1OSQQztfC1NJDa4sUk6/C4qy4wU7 ZSv1A/L9B5JnNUWQlOVAN+YjxUxreoiiZKzu2DG5AJPHwXOelnK9As90jUqlDvIMwkfP rTlGwvf3kcauYoJNGZ7m4kugSX9TgFa4cvNmU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.33.72 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:31:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100328163828.1f34e0e7@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20100405213133.3b29591f@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:31:13 -0700 Received: by 10.229.213.133 with SMTP id gw5mr10051160qcb.13.1270495876183; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: Antonio Olivares Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Ion-Mihai Tetcu , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:31:20 -0000 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Ion-Mihai, > > Does this fix the following issue? > > I have installed FreeBSD 8.0 and updated it to current p2 > > =A0I try to use konqueror and I get > > =A0There was an error loading the module About-Page for Konqueror. > =A0The diagnostics is: > =A0Cannot load library /usr/local/kde4/lib/kde4/konq_aboutpage.so: > =A0(Shared object "libjpeg.so.10" not found, required by "libkhtml.so.7") > > Other programs like kile and k3b don't work because of the same > message or others. =A0I did not know about this, otherwise I would not > have tried to install these programs in the first place, till the > coast was clear :( > > Thanks though, I saw the message a little bit late :( Nope. You need to update all of jpeg. See UPDATING for more details (but substitute this for the portmaster directions: " portmaster -r 'jpeg-*' ". HTH, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 19:35:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3AF106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7BC8FC0A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nys4U-0004YW-7n for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:34:54 +0200 Received: from static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl ([78.8.147.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:34:54 +0200 Received: from mwisnicki+freebsd by static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:34:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Marcin Wisnicki Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <4BB9A6D4.8080604@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4BB9AA98.7030205@unsane.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: static-78-8-147-77.ssp.dialog.net.pl User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Subject: Re: SSH root login with keys only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:35:05 -0000 On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:38:01 -0500, Peggy Wilkins wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Vincent Hoffman > wrote: >> >> However a note later in the default sshd_config file regarding the >> UsePAM setting says >> 'Depending on your PAM configuration, >>  PAM authentication via ChallengeResponseAuthentication may bypass >> the setting of "PermitRootLogin without-password".' > > That PAM comment in sshd_config got my attention a number of years ago, > so I did a lot of testing of various sshd/pam settings to try and > understand what could happen and to try and make some sense out of it. > > My configurations: > > in /etc/ssh/sshd_config: > PermitRootLogin without-password > UsePAM yes Hmm.. indeeed it seems to work just fine > > I haven't gone so far as to check source code to see why this works as > it does. I'm guessing that PAM may allow passwords for root via > something that isn't pam_unix since by design PAM can allow anything. > But when using pam_unix, at least, it does observe the without-password > setting for root. > I've followed the code and it looks like when 'without-password' is enabled then whatever password you entered will be replaced with "\b\n\r\177INCORRECT" in auth-pam.c:1175 before calling pam with a hope that it is not really your password ;) But I've tried worst case scenario (auth sufficient pam_permit.so) and it seems even that will be denied as there is an extra check in auth-pam.c:779 so it will fail anyway: fatal: Internal error: PAM auth succeeded when it should have failed So it seems it is in fact perfectly safe to use such combination of options. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 19:49:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75B81065670 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576B98FC17 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o35JnPSu086980 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:49:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:49:25 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: csup vs cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:49:27 -0000 Yesterday I was updating an 8.0 stable system to pick up a change I specifically needed. The change was MFC'd Apr 4th at 11:38. I waited until about 8PM and ran cvs from cvsup2.FreeBSD.org. When the change was not there, I waited until Apr 5th, a bit after midnight. When I still did not pick up the change, I updated from a cvs repository. My question is how are the mirrors updated (cvsup2 specifically I guess). In general is using csup and cvs equivalent processes for non developers?. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 19:52:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678CE1065673 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:52:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73C58FC18 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.local ([10.0.0.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o35JqYg8017255 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:52:34 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BBA3F82.20705@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:52:34 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:52:36 -0000 On 05/04/2010 18:03, Peter Steele wrote: > We have a USB boot stick based cloning process that we're considering porting to a DVD based media. I'm not sure though that it's possible due to the restrictions I've seen in the mfsroot environment we'd have to use. For example, in our USB disk procedure, we create partitions using gpart and set up mirroring for the OS partitions. We even recognize 3Ware controllers and automatically create logical RAID sets from the available drives. In some earlier work I did with a pxe boot server a couple of years ago, I know that I could not setup mirrors via sysinstall and I assume that hasn't changed in FreeBSD 8. Is it possible to customize the mfsroot environment to run a larger variety of commands to allow us to duplicate the cloning process we use with USB boot sticks or is this project likely not doable? > > It sounds like http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ would be helpful to you. (I havent used it yet due to lack of time but it looks good.) Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 20:41:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B895106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DC98FC23 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (unknown [88.130.213.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037D88A1A07; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:41:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BBA4AFC.3030006@bsdforen.de> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:32 +0200 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100331 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcin Wisnicki References: <4BB99A84.60108@bsdforen.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit problems with sourceforge due to svn X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:41:34 -0000 On 05/04/2010 15:31, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:26:16 +0000, Marcin Wisnicki wrote: > >> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:08:36 +0200, Dominic Fandrey wrote: >> >>> >>> It seems svn is linked to both the base system version of OpenSSL >>> (0.9.8k) and the package (1.0.0): >>>> ldd /usr/local/bin/svn |grep ssl >>> libssl.so.7 => /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.7 (0x801c8f000) libssl.so.6 => >>> /usr/lib/libssl.so.6 (0x803242000) >> >> >>> Does someone know a workaround/fix? >> >> Deinstall openssl package and rebuild svn. >> > > Also if the problem is reproducible - that is, svn being linked to both > versions of openssl if package is installed, you should definitely file > a bug against devel/subversion port. I have libmapped .so.6 to .so.7, which works (so I forced the port instead of the base install). It doesn't work the other way. I don't think svn is directly linked to both versions of OpenSSL, I think SVN is linked to one and a linked library is linked to the other version of OpenSSL. Regards -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 21:06:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566741065677 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505b.appriver.com [98.129.35.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EE28FC26 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:06:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.45 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht03.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.45] (HELO HT03.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31343457; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:06:44 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by HT03.exg5.exghost.com ([10.242.228.75]) with mapi; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:06:45 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: Vincent Hoffman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:06:41 -0500 Thread-Topic: How customized can an mfsroot be? Thread-Index: AcrU+ZdjNhz1qrg5Td+DASPjibu58gACjsRQ Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7EB7@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <4BBA3F82.20705@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4BBA3F82.20705@unsane.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Bgth CjJO Devb DxPl E/RT FXKn FjgZ F6NK GRB/ Hh+v LtxN M4jF NqWy Qb4Z Q+VU UB/7; 2; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnADsAdgBpAG4AYwBlAEAAdQBuAHMAYQBuAGUALgBjAG8ALgB1AGsA; Sosha1_v1; 7; {CD726DDB-3A1B-4387-A09B-693C0EB85670}; cABzAHQAZQBlAGwAZQBAAG0AYQB4AGkAcwBjAGEAbABlAC4AYwBvAG0A; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:06:41 GMT; UgBFADoAIABIAG8AdwAgAGMAdQBzAHQAbwBtAGkAegBlAGQAIABjAGEAbgAgAGEAbgAgAG0AZgBzAHIAbwBvAHQAIABiAGUAPwA= x-cr-puzzleid: {CD726DDB-3A1B-4387-A09B-693C0EB85670} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:06:46 -0000 >It sounds like http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ would be helpful to you. >(I havent used it yet due to lack of time but it looks good.) Hmmm, that just might do the trick. I'll check it out, thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 21:28:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD91106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimsander@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout012.mac.com (asmtpout012.mac.com [17.148.16.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386CC8FC19 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:28:41 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.15.101] ([76.106.175.11]) by asmtp012.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0F00DGC7ITJ180@asmtp012.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:28:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004050168 Message-id: <5CBAB28E-839B-48D7-B2F4-75C284A419E1@mac.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jim Sander Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:28:05 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: example C code for reading db hash files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:28:41 -0000 Is there a handy C code reference or examples for db files? (google has not been kind to me) I have a tied hash from Perl using DB_File, and need read only access in a C program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 21:30:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D97D1065672 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915DF8FC1A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so3028631fxm.13 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XSMw3RlTsAmwKTTq1qCMXBDKJFGsBPgrQ7RgtHnfIsg=; b=iB862+lzr3ebvp8lZlbmbab602NKa2YXKJdmyv+NsdpPuzPsedUOqwNBjs2xTCh9eA 3tNnTvXebNXEkB/v/3PNuF/4osrzEElEFZJg8tokvC8mt+P07CXPTotXPCXxRcAlqMZq 87vy1wyVZlXRZfGiouISoiNE1dnFJUw9PBbhw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fcV4pGzfenHHipL8pebfJpYIcGP41jlaQ5cBdpRx4agRx/buIHhn+uuKZO3hWpiPKm ugInWSqOxAHoXojObgt7KhrsYaiO8tC7YAFbOPL2pL8Jb6G5SrR3n3QL1oPL2xVS4gH1 RH3ARz8UlFySRZV1+b6yX2Mi+NswepPd+0Blo= Received: by 10.223.1.146 with SMTP id 18mr6319164faf.53.1270503023352; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p17sm27231415fka.16.2010.04.05.14.30.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:30:20 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100405223020.3ba44f6f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4BBA279D.7010102@earthlink.net> References: <4BB9FCFB.40103@earthlink.net> <4BBA279D.7010102@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ftp giving url but i want the IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:30:25 -0000 On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:10:37 -0500 Walter wrote: > On 4/5/10 10:08 AM -0500, Walter wrote: > >If, by "host-specific url" you mean the name associated with > >the IP address, you should be able to get the IP address by > >using the "host" command. > > > > > "host xxxxxxx" does the trick. FWIW dig is a little cleaner for scripts $ dig +short freebsd.org 69.147.83.40 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 21:34:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAE11065672; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@acm.org) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8BA8FC22; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-253-149.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.253.149]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o35LY7sA012308 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:34:09 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o35LY6xr044391; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:34:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o35LY5E0044390; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:34:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:34:05 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Jeremie Le Hen Message-ID: <20100405213404.GA44109@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-CMAE-Score: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:34:13 -0000 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2010-Apr-05 12:20:12 +0200, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: >Nonetheless I'm a little worried by what you said about the lack of ECC. >Computers has been used for years before ECC came out and obviously they >worked :). Not really. Most early computers had fairly extensive error detecting hardware. Early microprocessors didn't because the novelty of getting an entire on a CPU on a chip was enough. Most 486 based PCs supported parity RAM but maufacturers and end-users found they could save pennies by leaving the parity bits off. ECC support was a requirement for building servers with microprocessors and some support has trickled down to the desktop. It hasn't been really popular because wider memory costs more and most people want the fastest, cheapest system possible to make their games render faster. Occasional glitches don't matter. With the current generation of CPUs, Intel appear to have made a marketing decision to not support ECC on their desktop CPUs - if you want ECC, you need to user a server-grade CPU (with a much greater profit margin). AMD have gone the other way and have have ECC support in all their x64 chips except mobile ones. You are still at the mercy of motherboard manufacturers who decide to not include the tracks between the DIMM sockets and the CPU. > Do you really think it might happen to be a problem? There's no way to know. Definitely, the added error checking in ZFS have resulted in a number of "ZFS kept reporting errors and I found I actually had bad hardware even though I've been using it for years" reports. > Would an Intel board would compensate for this? No. The memory controller is embedded in the Atom and doesn't support ECC. If you decide to go the ECC path, you need to pick a different CPU. --=20 Peter Jeremy --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku6V0wACgkQ/opHv/APuIc7rwCgtGJTBH/KLDxbx7OoDl7LhDdA OmMAn1CISDdxUcvzap7y+GGckmRDIOx/ =h9ys -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 22:39:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2AA106567D for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE37D8FC1F for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o35MdSbD004555; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:39:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:39:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201004052239.o35MdSbD004555@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:39:42 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 5 16:34:40 2010 > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:34:05 +1000 > From: Peter Jeremy > To: Jeremie Le Hen > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with > nVidia ION chipset) > > > --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On 2010-Apr-05 12:20:12 +0200, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > >Nonetheless I'm a little worried by what you said about the lack of ECC. > >Computers has been used for years before ECC came out and obviously they > >worked :). > > Not really. Most early computers had fairly extensive error detecting > hardware. Depends on what machines you're talking about. One fairly well-known supe-r computer class architecture from the mid 1960s ran without *any* error checking in the CPU *or* main memory. Dr. Seymour Cray analyzed things and concluded the significant extra component count for just doing 'parity' checking, let alone ECC made for a net _reduction_ in overall system reliability, *IF* the machine was run under very tightly controlled operating conditions -- the big ones being extremely stable power and a very limited temperature range. So, he specified the design to tight tolerances, and ran truely 'naked' hardward. Scary, but true. And, it worked. This was also a machine where, at any given moment, a fair part of the data in the CPU was 'in the wires' ("in transit" from one part of the CPU to another), and significant parts of the wiring harness had to be of _just_the_right_length_ (speed-of-light considerations) for the box to work. Incidentally, this computer COULD NOT ADD two numbers together. Literally!! It performed addition by 'complement and subtract'. Yeah, it -sounds- silly, but there were valid architectural reasons for it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 23:06:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0186E1065672 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFEB8FC17 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so3355959bwz.3 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:06:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.135.219 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:06:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.29.237] In-Reply-To: <5CBAB28E-839B-48D7-B2F4-75C284A419E1@mac.com> References: <5CBAB28E-839B-48D7-B2F4-75C284A419E1@mac.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 01:06:50 +0200 Received: by 10.204.141.133 with SMTP id m5mr7409982bku.91.1270508810548; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Jim Sander Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: example C code for reading db hash files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:06:53 -0000 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Jim Sander wrote: > Is there a handy C code reference or examples for db files? (google has not > been kind to me) I have a tied hash from Perl using DB_File, and need read > only access in a C program. > You mean a reference... like this? http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/index.html There are C, C++ and other bindings for the Berkeley DB, each of which comes with some examples. Use the bindings you feel most comfortable with. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 00:25:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BCB106566B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimsander@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout014.mac.com (asmtpout014.mac.com [17.148.16.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57ADA8FC13 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:25:06 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.15.101] ([76.106.175.11]) by asmtp014.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0F007WEIHKIH00@asmtp014.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:24:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004050219 In-reply-to: References: <5CBAB28E-839B-48D7-B2F4-75C284A419E1@mac.com> Message-id: <00210668-B946-42C5-87A2-70293E9263A6@mac.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jim Sander Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:24:55 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: example C code for reading db hash files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:25:06 -0000 Thank you - but unfortunately, that doesn't help (it was the first place I checked actually) - I assume because of historical changes, but possibly because I'm missing something obvious. http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/ api_reference/C/dbopen.html vs. man 3 dbopen Things are *completely* different. Is the "stock BSD" db.h different than the Oracle db.h ? On Apr 5, 2010, at 7:06 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Jim Sander wrote: > Is there a handy C code reference or examples for db files? (google > has not been kind to me) I have a tied hash from Perl using > DB_File, and need read only access in a C program. > > You mean a reference... like this? > > http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/ > index.html > > There are C, C++ and other bindings for the Berkeley DB, > each of which comes with some examples. > Use the bindings you feel most comfortable with. > > -cpghost. > > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 00:30:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C491065674 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5188FC1C for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn12 with SMTP id 12so2561229iwn.14 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:30:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=a9f6MtMR8s87xvIv5r0jtv0uOrlXgdkBLV3nKovhE/4=; b=HJZjNtSdLAnIf9PvZ7BkDLQyFtCJUaH2HDulsAlZK+Mec6u/uIx1z+tISBgVFUk6Em 6B64fCyN+QH9m72OOAbixaVJzxFcTbMtgMrLN7w5fVSlC9fxUYjAjKX52kQ0/p0ncHuh eIo8+azDkp2Wd24zBAn6FfW6ikGsnhVtyeIqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=lAWyTg37DllqPM9K+kC4RkopMfRFhedaOpNEruKJryijAM9P3f7fCT0EtJgLQ4/8EX G2WcpcMmeoxc6yLIXKNksnOJFFzJ8wYMRUOTTPVpOozFcnmccDmrDHRuOSlYHnk0A8vQ n2siU6XXB+SRbdTJDPFF81pUEjdxdD0S67GOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.152.209 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:30:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:30:34 -0600 Received: by 10.231.182.211 with SMTP id cd19mr3006051ibb.55.1270513834561; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Peter Steele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:30:37 -0000 On 4/5/10, Peter Steele wrote: > We have a USB boot stick based cloning process that we're considering > porting to a DVD based media. I'm not sure though that it's possible due to > the restrictions I've seen in the mfsroot environment we'd have to use. For > example, in our USB disk procedure, we create partitions using gpart and set > up mirroring for the OS partitions. We even recognize 3Ware controllers and > automatically create logical RAID sets from the available drives. In some > earlier work I did with a pxe boot server a couple of years ago, I know that > I could not setup mirrors via sysinstall and I assume that hasn't changed in > FreeBSD 8. Is it possible to customize the mfsroot environment to run a > larger variety of commands to allow us to duplicate the cloning process we > use with USB boot sticks or is this project likely not doable? > I'm working through my own livecd boot mechanism currently. >From my experience, there is a limit on how much space you can fit into the kernel.. for modules. mfs_root is considered a module. Based on previous projects such as freesbie, mfsbsd, etc, you can run between a 50-100MB compressed mfs_root to find how much data you can store on that medium. But ... why are you constricting yourself to use mfs_root? I have many times ran FreeBSD completely from CDrom, which will give you all 700 (or a DVD, 4.3G) usable space. I'd be happy to help, if you have questions. but please direct the questions to the mailing list. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 00:42:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332801065670 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD9A8FC08 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:42:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.45 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht03.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.45] (HELO HT03.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31370943; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:42:32 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by HT03.exg5.exghost.com ([10.242.228.75]) with mapi; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:42:34 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: Tim Judd Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:42:33 -0500 Thread-Topic: How customized can an mfsroot be? Thread-Index: AcrVIF+ucDdN3IoRSkKLdQm87c5x1wAARgBw Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:42:36 -0000 > But ... why are you constricting yourself to use mfs_root? I have many t= imes ran FreeBSD completely from CDrom, which >will give you all 700 (or a DVD, 4.3G) usable space. > >I'd be happy to help, if you have questions. but please direct the questi= ons to the mailing list. The reason I was doing it this way was because I didn't know how to provide= the CD-ROM environment a writeable file system for /tmp and /var. Obviousl= y these have to be setup as some kind of ram based file system. What's the = trick? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 00:44:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2411065673 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f174.google.com (mail-yx0-f174.google.com [209.85.210.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9688FC0C for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe4 with SMTP id 4so2552184yxe.28 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:44:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nCbg+iLUjRBIwOonT5ifSu93YNPMzma3QIm/sw2yZ5M=; b=MEoU8zbLLpdziixD3CbkBxT0I+wAcGrjR3ct/owGfeV6kg4dNmtuVMdbATragHzyXF wVlHaKdkcAl06ecbrkIVbzDsLyuHJAWD9uBM/BaQgzhP6wvsZoMhVKHxG704YO6lLmYg P82EZarEIx7rggJczx9qLlt4I5eC2e4jKh1vA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=k/AOMMTuvDQM4eORdXQ7KpuWxvLcibsYYtdnTqslRkosP9Srcv39iSmTX73MvpvOff cFP46Qih4BW9uE20MHl++aRJTkhxs2auwebOr0NmyBaevuZA/alrGTZW8QYqdghekYgG kmY9++t1qtlrYGpY6+fa0X3wERlK9DIU/JhqU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.152.209 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:44:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:44:22 -0600 Received: by 10.101.125.4 with SMTP id c4mr14895639ann.225.1270514662750; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Peter Steele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:44:24 -0000 On 4/5/10, Peter Steele wrote: >> But ... why are you constricting yourself to use mfs_root? I have many >> times ran FreeBSD completely from CDrom, which >>will give you all 700 (or a DVD, 4.3G) usable space. >> >>I'd be happy to help, if you have questions. but please direct the >> questions to the mailing list. > > The reason I was doing it this way was because I didn't know how to provide > the CD-ROM environment a writeable file system for /tmp and /var. Obviously > these have to be setup as some kind of ram based file system. What's the > trick? > > If FreeBSD cannot write to /tmp or /var on boot, it automatically creates a MFS filesystems for those mountpoints and mounts them during boot. You don't need to do anything. It works as the same readonly compactflash environments out there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 00:51:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7B41065670 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615748FC1A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so3396819bwz.3 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:51:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.135.219 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:51:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.29.237] In-Reply-To: <00210668-B946-42C5-87A2-70293E9263A6@mac.com> References: <5CBAB28E-839B-48D7-B2F4-75C284A419E1@mac.com> <00210668-B946-42C5-87A2-70293E9263A6@mac.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 02:51:48 +0200 Received: by 10.204.133.146 with SMTP id f18mr7198130bkt.153.1270515108077; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Jim Sander Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: example C code for reading db hash files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:51:49 -0000 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:24 AM, Jim Sander wrote: > Thank you - but unfortunately, that doesn't help (it was the first place I > checked actually) - I assume because of historical changes, but possibly > because I'm missing something obvious. > > > http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/api_reference/C/dbopen.html > vs. > man 3 dbopen > > Things are *completely* different. Is the "stock BSD" db.h different than > the Oracle db.h ? Yes, they are. According to /usr/src/lib/libc/db/README "This is version 1.85 of the Berkeley DB code." The BDB version on the Oracle site is A LOT younger than 1.85, and has a very different API _and_ .db file format. Before you decide which API to use, you should make sure that you're reading the right .db file. file(1) will tell you what kind of .db file it is. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 01:04:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD0A1065670 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 01:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp1.comclark.com (avmxsmtp1.comclark.com [202.69.191.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8704C8FC0A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 01:04:22 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AscgAGglukvKRa39OWdsb2JhbAAHh16TcwEBAQE1Brh9hQcEgyI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,368,1267372800"; d="scan'208";a="12637231" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.173.253]) by avmxsmtp3.comclark.com with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2010 09:04:20 +0800 Message-ID: <4BBA8890.9060706@comclark.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:04:16 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Finding port dependants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:04:23 -0000 The ports make file tree is so very large now a days (21491 ports). Doing portsnap to download the complete ports system just to install 3 ports is massive over kill. I have been doing package installs because the resources consumed in disk space (inodes used) and no compile time is such a time saver. But there are times when ports have no package or the package is not up to date. What I am looking for is a method to find the dependents and their dependents of the selected port. Then search the package system to determine which have no packages. Install all the packages and cvs only the make files for the ports lacking packages. I have script to fetch only the make files for the selected port. So question is, does the ports index which I can download by it's self using portsnap contain the info to find all the dependents of a port? Is there some software I can use to do this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 01:59:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1A2106567A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 01:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5j.socket.net [216.106.26.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1083A8FC08 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 01:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.129.40.204] (216.106.19.47.reverse.socket.net [216.106.19.47]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC426C810 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:59:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <64467532-26D9-4AB6-8B73-7F892AB82B3B@socket.net> From: Jay Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:59:15 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: ttyu0 link down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:59:18 -0000 Ladies and Gentlemen, Earlier today, I had to dial into a server to check a link from both sides (a router was down). This evening, when I connected to the server I am not able to connect to the modem. From dmesg uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 uart0: [FILTER] Using cu -l /dev/ttyu0 I receive a message stating "link down". I have issued a kill -HUP 1 to restart the ttys and receive the same message. The same thing happens when rebooting the server. Trying to open the port with minicom, I receive the following message minicom: cannot open /dev/cuau0: Operation not permitted If I change the port to /dev/ttyu0, I receive the following message minicom: cannot open /dev/ttyu0: Permission denied Permissions on /dev/ttyu0 and /dev/cuau0 are as follows crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 41 Apr 5 20:03 /dev/ttyu0 crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 0, 44 Apr 5 20:03 /dev/cuau0 Is this a hardware issue or am I missing something else? Thanks, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 02:40:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10FA1065673 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 02:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDEB8FC12 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 02:40:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31377858 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:40:10 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:40:12 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:40:10 -0500 Thread-Topic: How customized can an mfsroot be? Thread-Index: AcrVIlTFT2t420LwQyO+CEbwT5me/AAD7Xxw Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FDD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AZcB A+/f BM8p CBWq CM44 CNNe CY/d CaBX C3EH C9VN D8ma EIxE E6Pl HCuo H/P+ Is5I; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {E0E0259A-0879-4E45-9B18-273C1FF8083D}; cABzAHQAZQBlAGwAZQBAAG0AYQB4AGkAcwBjAGEAbABlAC4AYwBvAG0A; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 02:40:10 GMT; UgBFADoAIABIAG8AdwAgAGMAdQBzAHQAbwBtAGkAegBlAGQAIABjAGEAbgAgAGEAbgAgAG0AZgBzAHIAbwBvAHQAIABiAGUAPwA= x-cr-puzzleid: {E0E0259A-0879-4E45-9B18-273C1FF8083D} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 02:40:13 -0000 >If FreeBSD cannot write to /tmp or /var on boot, it automatically creates = a MFS filesystems for those mountpoints >and mounts them during boot. You don't need to do anything. > >It works as the same readonly compactflash environments out there. D'oh! Man, wish I had known that. I just tried it and it worked fine. So I = should have no problem converting my cloning process over to an iso/cd medi= a. Definitely glad I don't have to mess around with a mfsroot environment. Thanks for the tip! Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 02:56:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD611065673 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 02:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7759E8FC13 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 02:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24004 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2010 02:56:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2010 02:56:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=FCxLMiYtO6rBfLYuBez5tsnO5RJff/lODIfTWeqB3pLjQeCJl5FEdtvcFk/jVV+smAUhQfSFPUrx/iAGnNi1nUwBG1z5O0I39COY30HQrgF98I16gE7rwFBYLIYh7fJ+; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nyyxv-0006Iv-9R for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:56:36 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 02:56:37 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote: >=20 > IMO this is a bad mistake that other languages were quite right not to > copy - a test shouldn't come after a block of code unless it's evaluated > after the block (as in repeat...until)=20 There are more things in heav'n and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of by designers of eagerly evaluated prefix notation languages. Actually, I'd think that using "unless" that way would be right up the alley of the users of most programming languages, since "unless" is here just being used the same way as an infix notation operator with very high precedence. If you want to get rigorous about it, I'd prefer this approach: unless (condition) (result) =2E . . where it uses strict prefix notation. I know that some people think postfix notation is the bee's knees because of implementation reasons, but frankly, implementation should be something we never have to see, in my opinion -- unless we're actually implementing it. Computers are for scut work; humans are for idea work. Failing strict prefix notation, I'm okay with the way Perl and Ruby use "unless". This: (result) unless (condition) =2E . . could be explained away as fitting with any of: 1. conforming to natural language expectations, thus leaving implementation scut-work to the realm of the computer 2. infix notation with very high precedence for "unless" 3. lazy evaluation, where the (result) is not evaluated until it is needed, which gives the interpreter plenty of time to notice there's an "unless" immediately following it Obviously, the "real" answer in the case of Ruby and Perl falls somewhere around 1.5, but 3 is still a believable-sounding excuse, and perfectly acceptable to me. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku6lKAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWwwgCcDGIgnxJN3Barid73ViqvY1xQ CSAAoO6L6lbh9+D7sI7HUqCVWKFLz0up =qz4D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 03:29:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BC2106564A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 03:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EFC8FC16 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 03:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn12 with SMTP id 12so2658096iwn.14 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:28:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3is50owp3SCqZ7zEmiFK4s++OowPIsN+2B4Lnb9+I14=; b=WKUKrd/T+iHxIf8eGZuP9+u/cX1ShYLEvDsqKOwLTzK97PCBwJ4poAHJKTO9wR0UY1 XVo18ztKxtp5WKYzgcHaUUYFt7KSIxwSK6ZZI+R+7iaiTxOJzKr3nDy+Rye7WPRz1P7P hbxjFiqveC92AsCimTOjm4lY/n8CgPtnJfKG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jR4nni8VwNrKT+mpMn5hW5i84DRKcNw0/Y+EWEITxtJqDkmNvO3iHQHaNsdXIQkkqq lquCIq2rc1tkpB41GVe1IqNlxSV1hH+gF+K2NtW90RUFokDaSkbZnfZy4qjkEf9gjhIJ 8H5BYMNtsR4UCwXsDBvW56JFDXkFS6q3mI+Mw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.152.209 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:28:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FDD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FDD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:28:59 -0600 Received: by 10.231.147.2 with SMTP id j2mr373106ibv.65.1270524539360; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Peter Steele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 03:29:00 -0000 On 4/5/10, Peter Steele wrote: >>If FreeBSD cannot write to /tmp or /var on boot, it automatically creates a >> MFS filesystems for those mountpoints >>and mounts them during boot. You don't need to do anything. >> >>It works as the same readonly compactflash environments out there. > > D'oh! Man, wish I had known that. I just tried it and it worked fine. So I > should have no problem converting my cloning process over to an iso/cd > media. Definitely glad I don't have to mess around with a mfsroot > environment. > > Thanks for the tip! > > Peter Mistakes often lead to the greatest discoveries. I had made a CD, thinking I'd have to go through the same process of an mfsroot. Booted the sucker, no errors, and I was about to fall over. Since then, I have learned the mfs_root (which has it's benefits, no doubt...) method. Glad to enlighten you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 06:14:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751AB106566B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:14:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout07.t-online.de (mailout07.t-online.de [194.25.134.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EFD8FC14 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de (fwd06.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout07.t-online.de with smtp id 1Nz23R-0000fX-BL; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 08:14:29 +0200 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (ZG4zCTZBoh0gyyh6KldpbijXOzcikYpkduTF31L0YeIs8ga3mELet5zjxtEvKzwwld@[79.218.86.160]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Nz23M-0KfPuK0; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:14:24 +0200 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o366EoAl055500; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:14:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o366En3d055499; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:14:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:14:49 +0200 From: Sabine Baer To: Jay Hall Message-ID: <20100406061449.GA55431@amd.catfish.ddns.org> References: <64467532-26D9-4AB6-8B73-7F892AB82B3B@socket.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <64467532-26D9-4AB6-8B73-7F892AB82B3B@socket.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: ZG4zCTZBoh0gyyh6KldpbijXOzcikYpkduTF31L0YeIs8ga3mELet5zjxtEvKzwwld X-TOI-MSGID: dcb39cbf-615b-4e78-8036-05ad44eb175c Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ttyu0 link down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 06:14:31 -0000 On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 08:59:15PM -0500, Jay Hall wrote: [...] > Using cu -l /dev/ttyu0 I receive a message stating "link down". ^^^^^ Shouldn't that be /dev/cua0 instead? $ less /etc/ttys|grep mgetty cuau0 "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty" unknown on insecure Sabine -- Good fences make good neighbours. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 06:27:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EF41065670 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:27:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669C08FC0C for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o366R2LV003986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:27:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BBAD435.2040801@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:27:01 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiza References: <4BBA8890.9060706@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4BBA8890.9060706@comclark.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Finding port dependants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 06:27:16 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2010 02:04:16, Aiza wrote: > The ports make file tree is so very large now a days (21491 ports). > Doing portsnap to download the complete ports system just to install 3 > ports is massive over kill. I have been doing package installs because > the resources consumed in disk space (inodes used) and no compile time > is such a time saver. But there are times when ports have no package or > the package is not up to date. What I am looking for is a method to find > the dependents and their dependents of the selected port. Then search > the package system to determine which have no packages. Install all the > packages and cvs only the make files for the ports lacking packages. I > have script to fetch only the make files for the selected port. > > So question is, does the ports index which I can download by it's self > using portsnap contain the info to find all the dependents of a port? In principle, yes, you should be able to use the INDEX to extract only a port and its dependencies rather than downloading the whole ports tree. Remember you will need the *build* dependencies as well. Not to mention everything under /usr/ports/Mk and quite probably everything with a name in CAPS under /usr/ports. However, be aware that you will be confined to using just the /default/ port options: if you try and customize things, you'll change the dependency graph and the standard INDEX won't match any more. On the whole though, most people don't make any more than a cursory attempt to implement something like this. The amount of hassle just isn't worth it. The ports tree is not that huge in the grand scheme of things -- without the distfiles it takes up about half a GB, and about 140,000 files or directories. That's comparable to what some of the larger ports (eg. OpenOffice: 1.9GB and 76,000 files once extracted) use for their sources alone. If you're running out of inodes that suggests you didn't create the file system with the standard 4k per inode ratio. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku61DUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwiUACeP9wGoDlfmCa1PPfm6GAVkJpk K+kAn0VSl0kWnYAI4HpvQtqsTvq+9rCV =ME8H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 06:31:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A891065672 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA38A8FC0C for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o366VkIt004013 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:31:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BBAD552.4000006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:31:46 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 06:31:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2010 02:55:44, Chad Perrin wrote: > 3. lazy evaluation, where the (result) is not evaluated until it is > needed, which gives the interpreter plenty of time to notice there's > an "unless" immediately following it > > Obviously, the "real" answer in the case of Ruby and Perl falls somewhere > around 1.5, but 3 is still a believable-sounding excuse, and perfectly > acceptable to me. perl (and ruby) are byte-compiled languages, not interpreted languages (like sh). All ordering variations on if and unless statements should end up using pretty much the same sequence of opcodes once parsed and compiled. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku61VIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwLPQCfXW15dHTRMRfIENyT//OrzzAz qYAAnjYjiRsS2jq9XaJ2xN15sM1BDc6K =3PnR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 07:50:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1BF106564A; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF44D8FC13; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o367oijP000899 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:50:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o367oih8000898; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA10689; Tue, 6 Apr 10 00:44:30 PDT Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:43:52 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com Message-Id: <4bbae638.iyl/bH7Z3/uADuhd%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <201004052239.o35MdSbD004555@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201004052239.o35MdSbD004555@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:50:49 -0000 Robert Bonomi wrote: > One fairly well-known super computer class architecture from the > mid 1960s ran without *any* error checking in the CPU *or* main > memory. Dr. Seymour Cray analyzed things and concluded the > significant extra component count for just doing 'parity' > checking, let alone ECC made for a net _reduction_ in overall > system reliability, *IF* the machine was run under very tightly > controlled operating conditions -- the big ones being extremely > stable power and a very limited temperature range. So, he > specified the design to tight tolerances, and ran truely 'naked' > hardward. Scary, but true. And, it worked. CDC-6600 and/or 7600, I presume? The flaw in that reasoning is that, while an unchecked machine may indeed be faster and/or have a somewhat better MTBF, the symptom of a failure may well be silently incorrect results. If reliable production results are what's valued, as opposed to time between detected failures while running diagnostics*, a checked or corrected design wins hands down. > This was also a machine where, at any given moment, a fair part > of the data in the CPU was 'in the wires' ("in transit" from one > part of the CPU to another), and significant parts of the wiring > harness had to be of _just_the_right_length_ (speed-of-light > considerations) for the box to work. Second- (or third?) hand war story from the manufacturing dept: Occasionally the instructions would call for pin so-and-so to be connected to pin thus-and-such with, say, a 6" wire -- when the pins in question were 8" apart! The source of the story claimed that the standard practice in such cases was to use the shortest wire that would reach, and let the QA dept worry about the fallout. * A diagnostic is a program that runs when the hardware is malfunctioning -- R. F. Rosin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 11:16:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A919C106566B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF6C8FC1D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o36BGBxs006585; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:16:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:16:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201004061116.o36BGAZD006584@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: Jon Radel , Matthew Seaman , David Allen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail Five Second Greeting Delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:16:33 -0000 On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:46:24 -0400 Jon Radel wrote: >On 4/2/10 11:49 AM, David Allen wrote: >> >> On 4/2/10, Jon Radel wrote: >>> On 4/2/10 8:33 AM, David Allen wrote: >>> >>>> [much stuff deleted --SB] >> >> Interesting reading. Thanks for elaborating. >> >> So the IDENT protocol was relied on in the time of the dinosaurs, it's >> value today is "so much less" (a polite way of saying "not used at >> all"?), and IDENT packets are commonly dropped by firewalls. Do I >> have that right? > >Yes, except for the "not used at all" bit. Well, as a mid-Triassic dinosaur who didn't reach the rapidly growing continent of UNIXia until the mid-Jurassic (SysVR1.05->4.3BSD), long after the breakup of Panibmea had begun, I'd like to say in our defense that when authd and identd first made their appearances as the latest fashion statements, those of us who had evolved properly suspicious natures due to exposure to our own user communities long before becoming networked, looked at each other, rolled our eyeballs, chuckled, and proceeded not to install either. > >> If so, then a reasonable conclusion is that the >> default sendmail behaviour with respect to IDENT (sending queries and >> then waiting for a reply) is an anachronism. And the workaround >> (setting a timeout of zero) is a fix for that anachronism. Should I >> consider those two points as "features", or should I just get off your >> lawn before I get yelled at? ;-) >> > >People who get all bent out of shape about 5 second delays in e-mail >delivery deserve to suffer, therefore I personally think the default >behavior is fine the way it is. But as I said, you can find many >sendmail "cookbooks" on the Internet that recommend that you set it to 0 >sec and get on with your life. Indeed. :-) > >Or you could just set all your firewalls to reject the traffic with much >the same end result. > In the same day's digest, on Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:37:38 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >On 02/04/2010 15:12:33, Jon Radel wrote: >> This is why there's a school of thought that even if your default for >> firewall configuration is to quietly drop unwanted packets, IDENT is a >> protocol that you should actively reject. It makes things move along >> more quickly. Nonsense. When a system is harassed by useless crap like that, it is indeed appropriate to drop the packets. I remain grateful to this day to the person on this list who long ago pointed out blackhole(4) to me in response to my queries about how to deal with my system's kernel issuing console complaints that it was limiting the sending of RSTs to 200 per second. Let the buggers eat silence, I say. It can help to slow down their assaults. > >That, and the fact that the ident protocol is utterly pointless -- it's >trivially easy for a server to lie about the owner of the other end of a >TCP connection. In fact, doing that is a standard part of the >functionality of identd implementations. Just a waste of packets. > Precisely. So are the RSTs in such cases. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 11:25:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70441065670 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fmember@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com (mail-yx0-f185.google.com [209.85.210.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907578FC18 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so2777164yxe.7 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 04:25:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=snhc4dghBsFqjeovuxIJgOn97Ww4hOvOnGXlj2x8lfo=; b=sGI9fbHxWxkol2dxnUQPtNvEBKseJZRFOZG1bfOsJsbUirm0OxQR1/iFOneUcivvcp EA46fJUIdYUlet1++SxWzJMzuHyKnPGBnEB2SU1qeAUZAMJ95Hz1Vu/ANEBHLUpy6Vm7 VjPDbqgBwrqi1dKOcx8Tr7s4GRCkIReYqO0HA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OXlZ3cFDnUwbFpf+3SLuNFty+lwRkeIgEWp5IxbeO2lhTexZzxfrDIL3I1Joz++Iom Wl3LSpcc+Gov7XUubs4yQhnMbGHueP+Bi4MeYn010QfSQuy164resJhXJVBKDuyESmmg XPHfn5wRI/BoMSBjQljOD0/n/rb4mTKBxRFeU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.103.3 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 04:25:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <353224805.20100304104142@connection.ca> References: <2c16b4711002240651q5ac2128fl19010e8bec39bfd9@mail.gmail.com> <353224805.20100304104142@connection.ca> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:25:55 +0200 Received: by 10.90.7.33 with SMTP id 33mr2101339agg.69.1270553155135; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 04:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: don Juan To: Ross Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: install.cfg for Documentation Installation Menu on 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:25:56 -0000 thank you, thenk you, thank you :) On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Ross wrote: > > dJ> What come up with 8.0-RELEASE is the new FreeBSD > dJ> Documentation Installation Menu in sysinstall. I would like to know > dJ> what command for install.cfg to configure my installation with, say, > dJ> English Documentation. > > It's undocumented (and breaks non-interactive installs) so I ended up > going through the source to find the answer for myself a while ago. > > The option you want is: > > distDoc=3D#### > > Where the #### is a bitfield for which versions of the doc packages > you want installed. =A0Also the bitfield must be in _decimal_, not 0x## > format, or it won't correctly select what you want. =A0You need to view > version 1.75 or higher of dist.h (from sysinstall's source) to get the > full listing. =A0URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/= sysinstall/dist.h?rev=3D1.75.2.1.2.1;content-type=3Dtext%2Fplain > > 0 (zero) disables installation. =A016 is english. > > *** WARNING/RANT: If you use any of the "distSetxxxxxx" (eg: > distSetKernDeveloper) options to select what to install, it doesn't > matter what you've selected above - you _will_ be prompted with a menu > to select a doc package upon running sysinstall. =A0(Those options reset > distDoc option above). > > Non-interactive sysinstall is effectively broken in FreeBSD 8.0 > distribution disks. (There is a way around it, but it's a pain in the > butt) > > That being said: sysinstall has been patched in source last month (Feb > 2010), so should be good for 8.1, with the default of no docs > installed if "nonInteractive=3Dyes" is set in your sysinstall.cfg file. > > > R. > > -- > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 12:02:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7892106567F for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5j.socket.net [216.106.26.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74428FC23 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.129.40.204] (216.106.19.47.reverse.socket.net [216.106.19.47]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8496C7F2; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:02:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: Jay Hall To: Sabine Baer In-Reply-To: <20100406061449.GA55431@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:02:19 -0500 References: <64467532-26D9-4AB6-8B73-7F892AB82B3B@socket.net> <20100406061449.GA55431@amd.catfish.ddns.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ttyu0 link down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:02:31 -0000 On Apr 6, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Sabine Baer wrote: > >> Using cu -l /dev/ttyu0 I receive a message stating "link down". > ^^^^^ > Shouldn't that be /dev/cua0 instead? > > $ less /etc/ttys|grep mgetty > cuau0 "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty" unknown on insecure > > Sabine > > -- > Good fences make good neighbours. (N.N.) > > > It does not make a difference whether I use /dev/cuau0 or not. I still receive the link down message. This morning I changed the /dev/ttyu0 dialup on entry in /etc/ttys to / dev/ttyu0 dialup off secure, and after running kill -HUP 1, I was able to access the modem using either cu -l /dev/ttyu0 or cu -l /dev/cuau0. Once I re-enabled /dev/ttyu0 in etc/ttys, I am no longer able to access the modem using either cu -l /dev/ttyu0 or cu -l /dev/cuau0. I receive a "link down" message when trying to access the modem. I am running FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 12:20:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D341065670 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4FF8FC1A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so78489fxm.3 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 05:20:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NnTLU55cVci/EyNSO/hApJGY9aMzc1tp36bXvJsLhO0=; b=dDnLV9egnLxnR/xFNBu2oLcsYWzQO6/M0q9bvH05L0esyYCVPwwWc/Pc8xZbOjOfLm 0ihEyJ929tVb+Z+POMPpcNaabRc2AOelcGOKTBlRBToQ1X/0HxuxDVMPzKbULAxNvWWP 3YOfG7MOVRHtPRs1H5lATCbNMidSi5LEDuEfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KvFVmR7+ziu1MusnksEipk3KyaLYp0om3Ex28Ad/WNfVp0ja3au1L20Wqb8gtY6tyD 9Fa6T3lHyUeG2r74WNWeNDznvazLEUjsvd6KIYCrDP8jB+KIbrie9WS9OysOC3+tLMxM ESwUHYjL2r6FO3q6K3YCdXt5OZgn7RfDhIUys= Received: by 10.223.42.22 with SMTP id q22mr7297495fae.40.1270556454892; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 05:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 18sm1305710fkq.34.2010.04.06.05.20.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 05:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:20:49 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:20:56 -0000 On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote: > > > > IMO this is a bad mistake that other languages were quite right not > > to copy - a test shouldn't come after a block of code unless it's > > evaluated after the block (as in repeat...until) > > There are more things in heav'n and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt > of by designers of eagerly evaluated prefix notation languages. And most of them are obscure for good reasons. Just because a a syntax fits into a classification scheme doesn't make it a good idea. Natural languages are mostly driven by spoken usage, in which people firm-up half-formed ideas as they speak - this is not a good model for programming languages. If you are hacking out a quick and dirty script it may be convenient to type the decision after the action, but it don't I think it promotes good quality software. Imperative languages have a natural order of decision followed by action, and code is most easily readable if the syntax doesn't try to subvert that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 13:21:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95FF106564A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC428FC12 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 02FF97400; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:21:14 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: RW References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.4.10; tzolkin = 2 Oc; haab = 3 Pop Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 06:21:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> (RW's message of "Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:20:49 +0100") Message-ID: <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:21:15 -0000 >>>>> "RW" == RW writes: RW> Imperative languages have a natural order of decision followed by RW> action, and code is most easily readable if the syntax doesn't try to RW> subvert that. And yet, there's an equally valid argument that the most important thing should stand out the most. In that sense, in the Perl statement: warn "x = $x, y = $y, z = $z\n" if $debug; ... the most important part is that it's printing something to stderr, and what's being printed. It's only minor that it's only when debugging, and luckily Perl lets us relegate that to the tail end of the statement. Now, if you argue "oh, the most important thing there is 'if debug'", then fine, you'd write that as: if ($debug) { warn ... } And I'd be fine with that. But I tend to see that layout as a lot of noise just to add a minor conditional. Or you could speak Perl with a Shell accent, and say $debug and warn ...; Fine, that also works, and some part of your audience will hate you, and another part will be totally cool with it. But this *is* the reason There's More Than One Way To Do It in Perl. You can write Perl that most naturally expresses what you believe is important in the code. If you don't like all this freedom, there's always Python. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 13:22:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044771065678 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C448FC15 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 168 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2010 13:22:34 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Apr 2010 13:22:33 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B3AEF50852; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:22:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: doug@safeport.com References: Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:22:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: (doug@safeport.com's message of "Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:49:25 -0400 (EDT)") Message-ID: <446344g1go.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: csup vs cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:22:35 -0000 doug@safeport.com writes: > Yesterday I was updating an 8.0 stable system to pick up a change I > specifically needed. The change was MFC'd Apr 4th at 11:38. I waited > until about 8PM and ran cvs from cvsup2.FreeBSD.org. When the change > was not there, I waited until Apr 5th, a bit after midnight. When I > still did not pick up the change, I updated from a cvs repository. > > My question is how are the mirrors updated (cvsup2 specifically I > guess). In general is using csup and cvs equivalent processes for non > developers?. Your message doesn't really make sense to me; I suspect you're confusing cvs with cvsup, but I'm not sure. cvsup and csup are different implementations of the same functionality, and connect to the same servers, so they really won't be different (they are, in fact, interchangeable). Anonymous CVS access is not widely used, and is really recommended only for experts. Different hubs update on different schedules, but official ones are recommended to update hourly. Development actually occurs in the subversion (a.k.a. svn) repository these days, from which it is automatically exported to the cvs repository (which is also the source for cvsup servers data). I'm not aware of non-developer direct access to the svn tree, nor do I know much about how the subversion data gets merged to cvs. I've used different cvsup servers over the years, but I've rarely noticed an update taking more than an hour after it hit cvsweb. If you're wondering about a particular hub, you could track down its manager and ask. I remember that being public information, but I can't seem to find it at the moment. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 13:31:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3357106566C for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@shockergroup.com) Received: from mail.shockergroup.com (mail.shockergroup.com [173.65.190.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7A08FC13 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38287 invoked by uid 89); 6 Apr 2010 13:04:22 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 38278, pid: 38284, t: 0.3800s scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.91.1/m:44 Received: from unknown (HELO ?12.53.193.223?) (tom@shockergroup.com@12.53.193.223) by mail.shockergroup.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2010 13:04:22 -0000 From: Tom Ierna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:04:22 -0400 To: freebsd-questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Subject: RootBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:31:08 -0000 Hi, Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? I'm looking to move an office-hosted machine's services to the cloud, = and they seem to be one of the only VPS companies centered around BSD = support instead of Linux. Thanks, -Tom= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 13:35:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B58D1065674 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB848FC12 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so4006533pwi.13 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 06:35:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=+xR8N1yWKmUznNK1skewd0MLI4U2T/MWGibjn24vZd0=; b=a1l9d6DTdXgkoyyYUePh5zXEwoRA281Hu0LRNpUA+0yTZYg/zb0QszOChtr3gH0O5V zoPNV8b/BLME/en+8s/C345jQAZKkCqUFPZ1R6k3Fh1tEC1Q+Zs2GPKq6FqWeFz1omDw G3Yqj2FWWPgwwQMU8Iw/JpcFHSKBuZjFZcBvI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=VyNIfSnObEAV5EGoaE34fiaAs9ZRxUc3m/jo78s3CVGDOlyFRp7SjpAZs6Dv9aEfOY FA/aMjYhwIvWaz1FK0v2z6JxuYrbxiiW1neAHU0AMsQhdJ/2TaMfvJ3kA6Gl4KDIsmEW Tvm0qGaeepeL4VPC0tERgkEBVynBJhQW2VZvU= Received: by 10.141.4.17 with SMTP id g17mr3966382rvi.166.1270560910613; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 06:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g14sm2528213rvb.11.2010.04.06.06.35.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 06:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:31:39 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: Tom Ierna Message-ID: <20100406133139.GA74437@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> References: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: RootBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:35:11 -0000 Hi Tom, Tom Ierna wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? > I've been using RootBSD for a few months now, and would give you nothing but positive feedback - however, your question isn't exactly specific. Is there anything in particular you need to know? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 13:41:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A301106566B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@shockergroup.com) Received: from mail.shockergroup.com (mail.shockergroup.com [173.65.190.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0077C8FC16 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42268 invoked by uid 89); 6 Apr 2010 13:41:51 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 42260, pid: 42265, t: 0.0756s scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.91.1/m:44 Received: from unknown (HELO ?12.53.193.223?) (tom@shockergroup.com@12.53.193.223) by mail.shockergroup.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2010 13:41:51 -0000 References: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> <20100406133139.GA74437@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20100406133139.GA74437@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Tom Ierna Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:41:54 -0400 To: Glen Barber X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: RootBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:41:57 -0000 On Apr 6, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Glen Barber wrote: > Hi Tom, >=20 > Tom Ierna wrote:=20 >> Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? >>=20 >=20 > I've been using RootBSD for a few months now, and would give you = nothing > but positive feedback - however, your question isn't exactly specific. >=20 > Is there anything in particular you need to know? I was non-specific on purpose; I'm looking for any stories. Also, if anyone has any other FreeBSD-friendly VPS companies they can = recommend, that would be great. I've looked on this page: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html Linux VPS vendors are a dime-a-dozen and I'm using a great one (Linode) = for several servers that I don't need on FreeBSD. Basically, I'm looking for a FreeBSD VPS vendor that's as highly = regarded as Linode. Thanks for your thoughts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 13:46:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920701065677 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71188FC13 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 67043 invoked by uid 98); 6 Apr 2010 14:46:25 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.2 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.95.1/9971. hbedv: 7.9.1.53/7.1.6.174. spamassassin: 3.2.5. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.2):. Processed in 0.048784 secs); 06 Apr 2010 13:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (192.168.0.2) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 2010 14:46:25 +0100 From: Craig Butler To: Glen Barber In-Reply-To: <20100406133139.GA74437@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> References: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> <20100406133139.GA74437@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:46:22 +0100 Message-ID: <1270561582.2042.8.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tom Ierna , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: RootBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:46:25 -0000 On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 09:31 -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Tom Ierna wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? > > > > I've been using RootBSD for a few months now, and would give you nothing > but positive feedback - however, your question isn't exactly specific. > > Is there anything in particular you need to know? > Seconded... rootbsd.net are really good, no problems what so ever... breath of fresh air! Tech support on the ball and really helpful, upgrading or migrating from their old jail system to xen no problems... brilliant. I would recommend them.... Cheers /Craig B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 14:20:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34160106566B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crwhipp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A1A8FC1A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so2545790vws.13 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:20:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received:message-id :in-reply-to:references:date:subject:from:to:cc:reply-to:user-agent :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :importance; bh=83+bQbcc9HEIsK1JI8eBb16vYb2IPiuH5ZZtJwqGInk=; b=XexAQvEUMu0qqa/2gSpGPlPS1WichYe7CX1o1rvUF7jSCjgObfHUHM7rwe1i/twFNR qmJ1nR0ZcEa3mllW90quCuHNTuMrmIw1bC2ws+F1ZKjfDEhh1Pbidy/DtbzrTt2DpOs5 pimyd8L7NKCMrVKGbu0LcT2yN52c9ig6N4974= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:subject:from:to:cc:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:importance; b=Jhd9OJund4F2JXbKZYfCL2XcfgZwZFndXQhsZYY9AK13BVqKZHVn5+0pVs2V/SdGRH nzzgRDNliHchTAP1UF4Lke4l2dWcrBW8v+KXgozRwwBarEp1VKn6evIkC3LFO/ujDEQg OhsAjoCidmFZbwm2kDHoRmRc73dWfMM17OKFU= Received: by 10.220.4.20 with SMTP id 20mr3476814vcp.22.1270563608856; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whipp.no-ip.org (174-26-157-239.phnx.qwest.net [174.26.157.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm77692331vws.8.2010.04.06.07.20.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whipp.no-ip.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whipp.no-ip.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2A7B8045; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:19:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from 65.121.28.16 (SquirrelMail authenticated user cwhipp) by whipp.no-ip.org with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:19:54 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4BBA8890.9060706@comclark.com> References: <4BBA8890.9060706@comclark.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:19:54 -0600 From: Craig Whipp To: "Aiza" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Finding port dependants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: crwhipp@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:20:10 -0000 On Mon, April 5, 2010 7:04 pm, Aiza wrote: > The ports make file tree is so very large now a days (21491 ports). > Doing portsnap to download the complete ports system just to install 3 > ports is massive over kill. I have been doing package installs because > the resources consumed in disk space (inodes used) and no compile time > is such a time saver. But there are times when ports have no package or > the package is not up to date. What I am looking for is a method to find > the dependents and their dependents of the selected port. Then search > the package system to determine which have no packages. Install all the > packages and cvs only the make files for the ports lacking packages. I > have script to fetch only the make files for the selected port. > > So question is, does the ports index which I can download by it's self > using portsnap contain the info to find all the dependents of a port? > > Is there some software I can use to do this? The porteasy port (ports-mgmt/porteasy) might do what you're looking for - it uses cvsup to selectively fetch the parts of the ports tree and distfiles needed to install and/or update a port of interest. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 14:21:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A5A1065675 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89B48FC08 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:21:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31427842 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:21:30 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:21:28 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:21:26 -0500 Thread-Topic: How customized can an mfsroot be? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 14:22:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370A8106564A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:22:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D0F8FC1E for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:22:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: o36EJ1Rx023730 Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-237-90.home.otenet.gr [94.64.237.90]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1) with ESMTP id o36EJ1Rx023730 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:19:11 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o36EJ1AV019925 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:19:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o36EIxE6019900; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:18:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: kline@thought.org References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:18:59 +0300 In-Reply-To: <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sun, 04 Apr 2010 02:01:53 -0700") Message-ID: <874ojor7e4.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: glarkin@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:22:15 -0000 On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 02:01:53 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > thanks for your url as well and the others to posted. but it seems > like overkill since i dont need any explicit option or argument. i > just need the script to tell me whether i have an arg or not. > following is something i've kept in one of my junk drawers from when i > was learning to write bourne sscripts. it uses the "$[token]" syntax > that determines whether there are Any args on the cmdline. if not, > the script prints a message and exits. > > #!/bin/sh > if [ $# -eq 0 ] > then > echo "No args; need filename." > else > echo "$1" > fi > > After a couple hours experimentation, the following does the same for my > perl scripts: > > > #!/usr/bin/perl > $argc = @ARGV; > if (! $argc ) { > printf("No args; need filename.\n"); > } > else { > printf("%s\n", @ARGV); > } Yes, that's very close to the sh(1) version. Perl's behavior in this case is described in the 'perlvar' manpage: @ARGV The array @ARGV contains the command-line arguments intended for the script. $#ARGV is generally the number of arguments minus one, because $ARGV[0] is the first argument, not the program's command name itself. See $0 for the command name. In other words, when @ARGV appears in "scalar context" it yields the 'size' of the @ARGV array, e.g.: % cat foo.pl printf("%d .. args = [%s]\n", int(@ARGV), join(', ', (@ARGV))); % perl foo.pl 0 .. args = [] % perl foo.pl 1 1 .. args = [1] % perl foo.pl 1 2 3 3 .. args = [1, 2, 3] So when int(@ARGV) is zero you know that there are no arguments at all. This means you can write your sh version like this in Perl: #!/usr/bin/perl if (int(@ARGV) == 0) { die "No args; at least one filename expected"; } printf("%s\n", join(' ', (@ARGV))); This is "good enough" as a command-line handling trick for really simple scripts, but you should probably have a look at the Getopt::Std and the Getopt::Long modules for longer scripts. Using them will make your option parsing code much cleaner and easier to change in the future. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 14:28:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE95B106564A; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D4C8FC1D; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 461A9758D; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:28:57 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <874ojor7e4.fsf@kobe.laptop> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.4.10; tzolkin = 2 Oc; haab = 3 Pop Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:28:57 -0700 In-Reply-To: <874ojor7e4.fsf@kobe.laptop> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:18:59 +0300") Message-ID: <86d3yciriu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: glarkin@FreeBSD.org, kline@thought.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:28:57 -0000 >>>>> "Giorgos" == Giorgos Keramidas writes: Giorgos> This means you can write your sh version like this in Perl: Giorgos> #!/usr/bin/perl Giorgos> if (int(@ARGV) == 0) { Giorgos> die "No args; at least one filename expected"; Giorgos> } Giorgos> printf("%s\n", join(' ', (@ARGV))); Which, when you're not speaking Perl with a C accent, expressed more "natively" as: @ARGV or die "No args: at least one filename expected"; print "@ARGV\n"; -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 14:38:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409881065670 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f171.google.com (mail-yw0-f171.google.com [209.85.211.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DEB8FC0C for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1so645771ywh.3 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:38:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ammVPFEAI+MeV4qQu0/f/GRxLe3v51O9uXPx7mOzXFw=; b=yBJNlRq3M3DX8mmsWIJU2pGTa6ZJIZSFymEn9vkw1DiPi4YtG8j6l4ibpYckMxKp1a JuJHLPsl0LPuF8AxEKerkY1mG+eKdGQKBgGaoo4EQnCXXzPZXvg8b4BxrP12wQrjZVnl CkK0ieFti8wZ10qlqt4NX+s7wEtb8iP5hII/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=w0fGWdrxZuKixc8FBiQdyLEQxoaXZ26OyxALF35NnpUytRBBQp48ZsZ5yygQ3wXFDJ fgN1O3vbW74s45hJo6kDvh7bs2XKEro8X+Y8WhJG9bnwwW0KZTvGwIGlldTLr6TvpyPb yLPEFuyifeoTqGzzVOCUkTomPxnakawnPHZiw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.71.3 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:38:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1270561582.2042.8.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> References: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> <20100406133139.GA74437@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> <1270561582.2042.8.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:38:01 -0400 Received: by 10.101.176.6 with SMTP id d6mr299793anp.155.1270564682010; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: Craig Butler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Glen Barber , Tom Ierna , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: RootBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:38:05 -0000 Highly recommended..... great systems great service... great prices On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Craig Butler wrote: > > > On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 09:31 -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > > > Tom Ierna wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? > > > > > > > I've been using RootBSD for a few months now, and would give you nothing > > but positive feedback - however, your question isn't exactly specific. > > > > Is there anything in particular you need to know? > > > > Seconded... rootbsd.net are really good, no problems what so ever... > breath of fresh air! > > Tech support on the ball and really helpful, upgrading or migrating from > their old jail system to xen no problems... brilliant. > > I would recommend them.... > > Cheers > > /Craig B > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 15:44:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BA01065675 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182558FC1D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o36FiX3G005223 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:44:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4BBB56E2.10801@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:44:34 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:44:33 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o36FiX3G005223 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Preventing Bad SMB Mount From Stalling A Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:44:39 -0000 I mount my SMB shares from /etc/fstab on a FBSD 8.x production machine like this: //USER@WINSERVER/SHARE /mountpoint smbfs rw 0 0 The problem is that after an outage, "WINSERVER" doesn't come up before the FBSD machine. So, the FBSD machine tries to boot and then hangs permanently because it cannot get the SMB share points mounted. This recently happened after a catastrophic power outage that cooked the share info on "WINSERVER". Even after it came up, it was no longer serving the proper shares and the FBSD machine could never find the SMB shares and thus hung permanently. The SMB mounts are not essential for systems operations. Is there a way to tell the FBSD to try and mount SMB, but keep going and complete the boot if it cannot? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 16:06:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AA2106564A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f197.google.com (mail-pz0-f197.google.com [209.85.222.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A6C8FC14 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk35 with SMTP id 35so39929pzk.3 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=wCnPqnEnMxYPcYYaCu6mpXkOQk1/mZWbyrI8m0goiyc=; b=xyzLtoRUC0rotdKTmweJkOZ67uB+LQKH33cnNApr2bauJ83u+KBl1xGavHLEgyeb2B bIpLk4I2CVfqK8VHGMZSUsTyeNvnrTFHNlgSf+4KJ+nppzSRz+37fnMvprOhziXpwf5M du+jAjnJzEKgrAmecoe/aksnvYEFNLHHSpDRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=I7Wb0UgICnZa6a8xNlrHxa18l5Pol5UY9mM55w7jaWUmprsEORVfTh6QRknqVzG2Lm /xvFS7qryfsMVV1repgp9AGIBrz3g/mjwk7LN5EAPxV+7lv2KucHB5tF7f/7R0L54Ynf BjhGUsjpsj41BGCSYt6AH4MyBWX7cBkLI9AAg= Received: by 10.143.20.13 with SMTP id x13mr2608269wfi.285.1270569992037; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e40sm9399wfj.11.2010.04.06.09.06.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:03:02 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <20100406160301.GA37004@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> References: <4BBB56E2.10801@tundraware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4BBB56E2.10801@tundraware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Preventing Bad SMB Mount From Stalling A Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:06:33 -0000 Hi Tim, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I mount my SMB shares from /etc/fstab on a FBSD 8.x production machine like > this: > > //USER@WINSERVER/SHARE /mountpoint smbfs rw 0 0 > > The problem is that after an outage, "WINSERVER" doesn't come up > before the FBSD machine. So, the FBSD machine tries to boot and then > hangs permanently because it cannot get the SMB share points mounted. > This recently happened after a catastrophic power outage that cooked > the share info on "WINSERVER". Even after it came up, it was no longer > serving the proper shares and the FBSD machine could never find the > SMB shares and thus hung permanently. > > The SMB mounts are not essential for systems operations. Is there a > way to tell the FBSD to try and mount SMB, but keep going and complete > the boot if it cannot? > I have a similar problem with a D-Link NAS I use for rsnapshot, however my NAS does not come up after a power outage _period_. The solution I use is to 'noauto' the nfs mount to prevent the stall until I can boot the NAS. I then created /mountpoint/NO, which the existence of the 'NO' file is checked before rsnapshot via cron telling rsnapshot if it is okay to backup to the mountpoint. The result is that my machine will continue to boot after a power failure, and the filesystem will not get clobbered by recursive backups. Though this isn't the same situation you are experiencing, you could always script the mount to occur "@reboot" via cron. Of course, there is always rcorder(8), but I have not looked at it too much, as it would not help in my situation. HTH and regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 17:28:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE211065670 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7178FC1B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o36HSqDv018260; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:28:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:28:52 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <446344g1go.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: References: <446344g1go.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: csup vs cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:28:55 -0000 On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > doug@safeport.com writes: > >> Yesterday I was updating an 8.0 stable system to pick up a change I >> specifically needed. The change was MFC'd Apr 4th at 11:38. I waited >> until about 8PM and ran cvs from cvsup2.FreeBSD.org. When the change >> was not there, I waited until Apr 5th, a bit after midnight. When I >> still did not pick up the change, I updated from a cvs repository. >> >> My question is how are the mirrors updated (cvsup2 specifically I >> guess). In general is using csup and cvs equivalent processes for non >> developers?. > > Your message doesn't really make sense to me; I suspect you're confusing > cvs with cvsup, but I'm not sure. cvsup and csup are different > implementations of the same functionality, and connect to the same > servers, so they really won't be different (they are, in fact, > interchangeable). Anonymous CVS access is not widely used, and is > really recommended only for experts. Different hubs update on different > schedules, but official ones are recommended to update hourly. First thank you for responding to an obviously badly worded question. I think my understanding exceeds my ability to explain my question. So I will be very specific about what I wanted. A change was MFC'd to the xorg intel driver to include support for the new chipsets. I took the fact that I could see the change on the web: Date: Sun Apr 4 15:37:47 2010 New Revision: 206164 URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/206164 Log: MFC r205096, r205102 Add AGP support for Intel Pineview and Ironlake chipsets. to mean that it would be propogated out to my favored csup server in due course. The change was not on cvsup2.FreeBSD.org by 2AM Monday, so I got a source tree from a cvs repository my unix guru runs and updated using that. I used his because I host it. What I attempted to ask is (1) how are the mirrors updated; and (2), is there a particular lag time where the latest changes would have to be there? This is not normally an issue for me but I have a laptop that will not run X w/o this change. I normally do not use cvs because, I am not a developer and my 'learning new things bucket' is pretty full. Hence my [however badly worded] question. Again thanks for bearing with me. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 17:43:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39C11065675 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimsander@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com (asmtpout018.mac.com [17.148.16.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFF28FC19 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:43:23 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.15.101] ([76.106.175.11]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0G003KUUJX0A40@asmtp018.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:43:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004060171 In-reply-to: References: <5CBAB28E-839B-48D7-B2F4-75C284A419E1@mac.com> <00210668-B946-42C5-87A2-70293E9263A6@mac.com> Message-id: <6F9D9FB3-1B63-4D0C-9A77-AB285258CB27@mac.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jim Sander Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:43:09 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: example C code for reading db hash files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:43:23 -0000 On Apr 5, 2010, at 8:51 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > /usr/src/lib/libc/db/README > "This is version 1.85 of the Berkeley DB code." I apologize for being imprecise in my original question. What you've provided is enough to give me progress. I think /usr/src/lib/libc/db/ tests/hash.tests will at least get me started. Thank you for the information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 18:00:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421BA106564A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260BC8FC1B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:00:51 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0G0038ZVCYCV50@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:00:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004060175 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:00:34 -0700 Message-id: <2EE33758-C39C-41DC-B6A8-B34CF6B3B25A@mac.com> References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> To: "Randal L. Schwartz" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:00:52 -0000 Hi-- On Apr 6, 2010, at 6:21 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "RW" == RW writes: > RW> Imperative languages have a natural order of decision followed by > RW> action, and code is most easily readable if the syntax doesn't try to > RW> subvert that. > > And yet, there's an equally valid argument that the most important > thing should stand out the most. In that sense, in the Perl statement: > > warn "x = $x, y = $y, z = $z\n" > if $debug; > > ... the most important part is that it's printing something to stderr, > and what's being printed. It's only minor that it's only when > debugging, and luckily Perl lets us relegate that to the tail end of > the statement. > > Now, if you argue "oh, the most important thing there is 'if debug'", > then fine, you'd write that as: > > if ($debug) { warn ... } > > And I'd be fine with that. Let's suppose you want to display one message if debugging is enabled, and a shorter message if it is not. Adding an else clause to an if statement is a natural change and the result remains highly readable. Can one even use this postfix test syntax with an else, or would you have to re-write the first version entirely? As far as I am concerned, the first version resembles exception handling, ie: try: except Error1: ...and should be reserved for situations where the statement is expected to run normally. If it is reasonable that the test might fail more often than in unusual circumstances, then I'd really prefer to put the test first. > If you don't like all this freedom, there's always Python. :) Yes, Perl lets you innovate a remarkable number of ways of solving the same problem using syntax that varies from clean and maintainable to constructs which even the original author won't understand without effort a few months later. It seems to be uncommon for one to write unreadable Python code; I'm not sure additional freedom to write obfuscated code would be as beneficial as one may assume.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 18:07:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FEE1065675 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96368FC1D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 696117A15; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:07:25 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Chuck Swiger References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <2EE33758-C39C-41DC-B6A8-B34CF6B3B25A@mac.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.4.10; tzolkin = 2 Oc; haab = 3 Pop Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:07:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: <2EE33758-C39C-41DC-B6A8-B34CF6B3B25A@mac.com> (Chuck Swiger's message of "Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:00:34 -0700") Message-ID: <86k4sk1mle.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:07:25 -0000 >>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Swiger writes: Chuck> Let's suppose you want to display one message if debugging is Chuck> enabled, and a shorter message if it is not. Then you wouldn't have used this construct. >> If you don't like all this freedom, there's always Python. :) Chuck> Yes, Perl lets you innovate a remarkable number of ways of Chuck> solving the same problem using syntax that varies from clean and Chuck> maintainable to constructs which even the original author won't Chuck> understand without effort a few months later. It seems to be Chuck> uncommon for one to write unreadable Python code; I'm not sure Chuck> additional freedom to write obfuscated code would be as Chuck> beneficial as one may assume.... I call shenanigans: False dichotomy. Perl has *many* options that are all clear and readable, and some that aren't. Python has a *few* options that are all clear and readable, and some that aren't. You may not appreciate that freedom. Others do. With freedom comes responsibility. If that's not for you, Perl's not for you. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 18:36:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F13E1065670 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1276D8FC14 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:36:14 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0G006ZAX0COG10@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:36:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004060184 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <86k4sk1mle.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:36:12 -0700 Message-id: <66F97B7C-9D27-452B-BCC8-30C960599AE0@mac.com> References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <2EE33758-C39C-41DC-B6A8-B34CF6B3B25A@mac.com> <86k4sk1mle.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> To: "Randal L. Schwartz" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:36:15 -0000 On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> "Chuck" == Chuck Swiger writes: > Chuck> Let's suppose you want to display one message if debugging is > Chuck> enabled, and a shorter message if it is not. > > Then you wouldn't have used this construct. If the construct isn't a good idea considering the most obvious change one might make to the code, I would conclude that it's probably never going to be a good idea to use such a thing. Surely Perl source code shouldn't be considered as write-once, modify-never? >>> If you don't like all this freedom, there's always Python. :) > > Chuck> Yes, Perl lets you innovate a remarkable number of ways of > Chuck> solving the same problem using syntax that varies from clean and > Chuck> maintainable to constructs which even the original author won't > Chuck> understand without effort a few months later. It seems to be > Chuck> uncommon for one to write unreadable Python code; I'm not sure > Chuck> additional freedom to write obfuscated code would be as > Chuck> beneficial as one may assume.... > > I call shenanigans: False dichotomy. I agree: the assertion you've made that Python lacks freedom is a false dichotomy. As we all know, any language which is adequately expressive can be used to write arbitrary code; much less languages which permit callouts or extension mechanisms to invoke native C/assembler/etc code. If you really find an advantage in obfuscated syntax and regard it as representing more freedom, I won't argue that opinion with you directly, but instead ask that you demonstrate that this supposed freedom results in better code, ease of maintainability, etc: > Perl has *many* options that are all clear and readable, and some > that aren't. Python has a *few* options that are all clear and > readable, and some that aren't. ...and an example or two would be? > You may not appreciate that freedom. Others do. With freedom comes > responsibility. If that's not for you, Perl's not for you. I would suggest that good software not only allows the user the full freedom to do anything which is possible, it should also avoid asking the user about choices which are impossible/invalid/wrong/etc. This can be input field validation, middleware logic, this can be determining the present state and greying out options which are not currently applicable, etc. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 18:36:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C87D106566B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53208FC0C for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so187485bwz.3 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:36:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MZLj0NPpQFvu+fZhrwES5aB9H138Iu+UbpKGfOpcH0g=; b=Jwac5Mlj1dzll6NGiPFDt57TclT5ee0kk3sAUT3SqpsCkl0mBebUODrj+aAN+33hIY 9UWs8irCbsjHomZ/CaU976Vp5Qpauj2NMIyWXgZmLbkgs8SzlKg0Jfki/AdGKUy1nsuy m1EQXq+gkD2iI/4Jp4ROaH5XQejYohj37Qf9w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wXfIUDj9lyv9gE8igsbgA2MB0rqNwXgwDyvUmRJ/Yy72vwizzGu0024/LYqNeruwXv APuxm319wCwgtNUiKYBm4gPfPKgi6k8Pi+a07rJ1wqudFuGJ00Ee98pfSbrtyclOotZV zlCqjuzEI4E51ifFp1nWe2pVT4UDaPj8GWYv8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.203 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:36:15 +0300 Received: by 10.204.83.26 with SMTP id d26mr5089941bkl.157.1270578975672; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: tundra@tundraware.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: RE: Preventing Bad SMB Mount From Stalling A Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:36:18 -0000 >I mount my SMB shares from /etc/fstab on a FBSD 8.x production machine like >this: > > //USER at WINSERVER/SHARE /mountpoint smbfs rw 0 0 > >The problem is that after an outage, "WINSERVER" doesn't come up >before the FBSD machine. So, the FBSD machine tries to boot and then >hangs permanently because it cannot get the SMB share points mounted. >This recently happened after a catastrophic power outage that cooked >the share info on "WINSERVER". Even after it came up, it was no longer >serving the proper shares and the FBSD machine could never find the >SMB shares and thus hung permanently. > >The SMB mounts are not essential for systems operations. Is there a >way to tell the FBSD to try and mount SMB, but keep going and complete >the boot if it cannot? A bit of an ugly hack, but have you considered attempting to mount the share via an automatic script after the system has finished booting? - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 18:43:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFFA1065670 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B9E8FC12 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 77B467AEA; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:43:08 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Chuck Swiger References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <2EE33758-C39C-41DC-B6A8-B34CF6B3B25A@mac.com> <86k4sk1mle.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <66F97B7C-9D27-452B-BCC8-30C960599AE0@mac.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.4.10; tzolkin = 2 Oc; haab = 3 Pop Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:43:08 -0700 In-Reply-To: <66F97B7C-9D27-452B-BCC8-30C960599AE0@mac.com> (Chuck Swiger's message of "Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:36:12 -0700") Message-ID: <86d3yc2zib.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:43:09 -0000 >>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Swiger writes: >> >> Then you wouldn't have used this construct. Chuck> If the construct isn't a good idea considering the most obvious Chuck> change one might make to the code, Objection: presumes facts not in evidence, your honor. Seriously, I've written thousands of lines that look like: print "....." if $flag; over the years (decades), and only *once* or *twice* do I ever recall saying "oh, I actually wanted a two-way switch", and had to rewrite it. So "most obvious" to you is clearly not what is actually most likely. This undermines the rest of your argument, but let's read on... Chuck> Surely Perl source code shouldn't be considered as write-once, Chuck> modify-never? Yes, and that's also presumes facts not in evidence. See above. Chuck> I would suggest that good software not only allows the user the Chuck> full freedom to do anything which is possible, it should also Chuck> avoid asking the user about choices which are Chuck> impossible/invalid/wrong/etc. This can be input field Chuck> validation, middleware logic, this can be determining the present Chuck> state and greying out options which are not currently applicable, Chuck> etc. I agree. The difference with Perl is that there are often many equally good ways to choose. If that's too much repsonsibility for you, please don't use Perl. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 18:50:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7D5106566B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA288FC16 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o36IoIJM009536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:50:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4BBB826B.5020500@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:50:19 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:50:18 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o36IoIJM009536 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Preventing Bad SMB Mount From Stalling A Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:50:24 -0000 On 4/6/2010 1:36 PM, Dan Naumov wrote: >> I mount my SMB shares from /etc/fstab on a FBSD 8.x production machine like >> this: >> >> //USER at WINSERVER/SHARE /mountpoint smbfs rw 0 0 >> >> The problem is that after an outage, "WINSERVER" doesn't come up >> before the FBSD machine. So, the FBSD machine tries to boot and then >> hangs permanently because it cannot get the SMB share points mounted. >> This recently happened after a catastrophic power outage that cooked >> the share info on "WINSERVER". Even after it came up, it was no longer >> serving the proper shares and the FBSD machine could never find the >> SMB shares and thus hung permanently. >> >> The SMB mounts are not essential for systems operations. Is there a >> way to tell the FBSD to try and mount SMB, but keep going and complete >> the boot if it cannot? > > A bit of an ugly hack, but have you considered attempting to mount the > share via an automatic script after the system has finished booting? > > - Sincerely, > Dan Naumov Actually that is what I was doing via a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d before I switched over to the /etc/fstab scheme. I may have to fall back to the rc.d approach. It seems odd to me that there's "best effort to mount" semantic option for fstab entries... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 18:55:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C17106566C for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827A38FC15 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o36IswfE009609 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:54:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4BBB8383.40601@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:54:59 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4BBB826B.5020500@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4BBB826B.5020500@tundraware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:54:58 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o36IswfE009609 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Preventing Bad SMB Mount From Stalling A Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:55:10 -0000 On 4/6/2010 1:50 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 4/6/2010 1:36 PM, Dan Naumov wrote: >>> I mount my SMB shares from /etc/fstab on a FBSD 8.x production machine like >>> this: >>> >>> //USER at WINSERVER/SHARE /mountpoint smbfs rw 0 0 >>> >>> The problem is that after an outage, "WINSERVER" doesn't come up >>> before the FBSD machine. So, the FBSD machine tries to boot and then >>> hangs permanently because it cannot get the SMB share points mounted. >>> This recently happened after a catastrophic power outage that cooked >>> the share info on "WINSERVER". Even after it came up, it was no longer >>> serving the proper shares and the FBSD machine could never find the >>> SMB shares and thus hung permanently. >>> >>> The SMB mounts are not essential for systems operations. Is there a >>> way to tell the FBSD to try and mount SMB, but keep going and complete >>> the boot if it cannot? >> >> A bit of an ugly hack, but have you considered attempting to mount the >> share via an automatic script after the system has finished booting? >> >> - Sincerely, >> Dan Naumov > > Actually that is what I was doing via a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d > before I switched over to the /etc/fstab scheme. > > I may have to fall back to the rc.d approach. It seems odd to me that there's > "best effort to mount" semantic option for fstab entries... I meant to say that there is NO such semantic. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 20:44:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D8D106566B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout028.mac.com (asmtpout028.mac.com [17.148.16.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21798FC0A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:44:19 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp028.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0H00D572XSRQ30@asmtp028.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:44:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004060219 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <86d3yc2zib.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:44:16 -0700 Message-id: <86A6FD8C-EF54-4B61-957E-A88A7272F7C0@mac.com> References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <2EE33758-C39C-41DC-B6A8-B34CF6B3B25A@mac.com> <86k4sk1mle.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <66F97B7C-9D27-452B-BCC8-30C960599AE0@mac.com> <86d3yc2zib.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> To: "Randal L. Schwartz" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:44:20 -0000 On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > "Chuck" == Chuck Swiger writes: >> Then you wouldn't have used this construct. > > Chuck> If the construct isn't a good idea considering the most obvious > Chuck> change one might make to the code, > > Objection: presumes facts not in evidence, your honor. This isn't a court-room. I don't mind rhetorical flourishes, but if you are unwilling to consider how a statement might be changed over time as the circumstances require, even for the sake of discussion, well, in doing so you've chosen to not consider code maintainability. > Seriously, I've written thousands of lines that look like: > > print "....." if $flag; > > over the years (decades), and only *once* or *twice* do I ever recall > saying "oh, I actually wanted a two-way switch", and had to rewrite it. > > So "most obvious" to you is clearly not what is actually most likely. Very well; I would like to hear you propose another type of change that might be made to this sort of postfix test syntax which you consider to be "most likely". I find it remarkable, and nearly unbelievable, that one would only need to add an else clause to such a statement less often than 0.1% of the time. Frankly, I wouldn't mind taking a look through a few revisions of something you'd written (perhaps via CVSweb or similar) to see what kind of changes you do make to code over time. > Chuck> Surely Perl source code shouldn't be considered as write-once, > Chuck> modify-never? > > Yes, and that's also presumes facts not in evidence. See above. I'd be happy to take a look at your evidence. In fact, I'd already asked a similar question: >> Perl has *many* options that are all clear and readable, and some >> that aren't. Python has a *few* options that are all clear and >> readable, and some that aren't. > > ...and an example or two would be? ...and yet I do not see a response. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 21:10:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7814D106564A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5028FC08 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B9EB27D9B; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:10:19 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Chuck Swiger References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <2EE33758-C39C-41DC-B6A8-B34CF6B3B25A@mac.com> <86k4sk1mle.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <66F97B7C-9D27-452B-BCC8-30C960599AE0@mac.com> <86d3yc2zib.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86A6FD8C-EF54-4B61-957E-A88A7272F7C0@mac.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.4.10; tzolkin = 2 Oc; haab = 3 Pop Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:10:19 -0700 In-Reply-To: <86A6FD8C-EF54-4B61-957E-A88A7272F7C0@mac.com> (Chuck Swiger's message of "Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:44:16 -0700") Message-ID: <868w902sp0.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:10:20 -0000 >>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Swiger writes: Chuck> Very well; I would like to hear you propose another type of Chuck> change that might be made to this sort of postfix test syntax Chuck> which you consider to be "most likely". Maybe the content of the text message. I change that stuff all the time. Or maybe the exact nature of the condition. That also changes. Let me short cut the rest of the discussion, by summarizing: You and and I have different "favorite languages" However, our positions are different about the fact that we have different "favorite languages". I'm perfectly willing to let you have Python, and work productively in it, while I'm happily being productive with Perl. I'm also perfectly willing to allow you imagine faults with Perl, even though after having used Perl productively for 20 years, those problems just don't arise in practice. You, on the other hand, seem to want to convince me that I couldn't have possibly been as productive in Perl as I have for the past 20 years, because of these alleged insurmountable problems. You seem to want to ensure that whatever my experience of Perl might be, that it is somehow wrong or tainted or misinformed. Hmm. Really? Really? Now, in the greater range of things, which position is more useful? Can we agree that we've gone *way beyond* the topic of freebsd-questions as well, and if anyone hasn't killfiled us already, they should have? :-) Now, on the other hand, emacs rules, vi sucks. :-) :-) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 21:14:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EE0106566B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel@seliverstoff.fr) Received: from slow3-v.mail.gandi.net (slow3-v.mail.gandi.net [217.70.178.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D8B8FC0A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:14:51 +0000 (UTC) X-WhiteListed: mail was accepted with no delay X-WhiteListed: mail was accepted with no delay Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) by slow3-v.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD6C38945 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:59:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.38 Received: from mfilter4-v.gandi.net (mfilter4-v.gandi.net [217.70.178.38]) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61282225191 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:59:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter4-v.gandi.net Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]) by mfilter4-v.gandi.net (mfilter4-v.gandi.net [217.70.178.38]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D2O76Pa-+wLA for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:59:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 68.44.255.15 Received: from freebsd.leplacard.net (c-68-44-255-15.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.44.255.15]) (Authenticated sender: michel@seliverstoff.fr) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD6D6225173 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:59:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from freebsd.leplacard.net (freebsd.leplacard.net) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by freebsd.leplacard.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA565C3C0B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4BBBA09A.2070408@seliverstoff.fr> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:59:06 -0400 From: Michel Seliverstoff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Building for polkit-0.96_1 fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:14:51 -0000 Hello, I'm having difficulties updating polkit. I read the ports/updating and did portupgrade -f policykit first. unfortunatelly it didn't help. Would anyone have a tip to share. Thanks, Michel gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.96/src/polkit' CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitenumtypes.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitactiondescription.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitauthorityfeatures.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitdetails.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitauthority.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkiterror.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitsubject.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitunixprocess.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitunixsession.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitsystembusname.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitidentity.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitunixuser.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitunixgroup.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitauthorizationresult.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitcheckauthorizationflags.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkitimplicitauthorization.lo CC libpolkit_gobject_1_la-polkittemporaryauthorization.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkitactiondescription.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkitauthenticationagent.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkitauthority.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkitauthorizationresult.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkitbindings.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkitbindingsmarshal.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkitcheckauthorizationflags.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkiterror.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkitidentity.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkitimplicitauthorization.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkitsubject.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkittemporaryauthorization.lo CC libpolkit_private_la-_polkitauthorityfeatures.lo CCLD libpolkit-private.la CCLD libpolkit-gobject-1.la /usr/local/bin/g-ir-scanner -v \ --namespace Polkit \ --nsversion=1.0 \ --include=Gio-2.0 \ --library=polkit-gobject-1 \ --output Polkit-1.0.gir \ --pkg=glib-2.0 \ --pkg=gobject-2.0 \ --pkg=gio-2.0 \ --libtool=../../libtool \ -I/usr/local/include/eggdbus-1 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include \ -I../../src \ -D_POLKIT_COMPILATION \ -DEGG_DBUS_I_KNOW_API_IS_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE \ ./polkit.h \ ./polkittypes.h \ ./polkitactiondescription.h \ ./polkitauthority.h \ ./polkitauthorizationresult.h \ ./polkitcheckauthorizationflags.h \ ./polkitdetails.h \ ./polkitenumtypes.h \ ./polkiterror.h \ ./polkitidentity.h \ ./polkitimplicitauthorization.h \ ./polkitsubject.h \ ./polkitsystembusname.h \ ./polkittemporaryauthorization.h \ ./polkitunixgroup.h \ ./polkitunixprocess.h \ ./polkitunixsession.h \ ./polkitunixuser.h \ gmake[4]: *** [Polkit-1.0.gir] Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.96/src/polkit' gmake[3]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.96/src/polkit' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.96/src' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.96' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20100406-94674-18chul8-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=polkit-0.95_3 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=0.95_3 make ** Fix the problem and try again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 21:29:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E6E1065686 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33218FC15 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so407145pwi.13 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:29:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Cgm4SvbfaYgCqTb+bUSMDfKDX/qScXKcl2X731z+pXw=; b=fCnd7VEGq7PTAkEKqxsFqDFHRsSAUAgjA/UJ2ZVZRrVSuXO1WCOCB+13hT87u/gbmu YdCtKllWgIQrWlZLZSzW0g2JPV8ksYBub97Hnw2im1xTpue9Y5UcZaSCwx+i0m0BJf/G uauuw4NFAtpwi7o1S6lLxxdjuBuXHm+9tS9GI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=rPGC+bKmwlsiUOQMgd+ydV51r2BpMh6wdhxGT9dxoDS834nYGMBR1NublADEx38MAI WXNY0DTf4wQkhL+6WDs0VBwPm9/p1enOCT0ztNuGHVTGC+PujCvxuLEKZqE8Z1Z+jnrq iEHEkr4YKX5Mp4kq84I1pjrXgfR34nwN3C52Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.152.209 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:29:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8066@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FDD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8066@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:29:39 -0600 Received: by 10.140.248.9 with SMTP id v9mr6218290rvh.101.1270589379828; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Peter Steele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:29:42 -0000 On 4/6/10, Peter Steele wrote: >>If FreeBSD cannot write to /tmp or /var on boot, it automatically >>creates a MFS filesystems for those mountpoints and mounts them during >> boot. You don't need to do anything. >> >>It works as the same readonly compactflash environments out there. > > What incidentally does /var get populated with? Our image has a custom > directory under /var but this did not show up in the MFS versions of this > directory. I can get around this but I wonder what else might not be > included? >From the var mtree spec /etc/mtree/* (if i recall, BSD.var.dist) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 21:29:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE287106564A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:29:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA61E8FC0A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:29:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so333587bwz.3 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:29:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4LMPqOrByWVSdWJx/of15oO+U5EdcaUXV3erGlZIrkY=; b=cqw0Ug0b3WuquPTURC2gPFfuTOmFVXVlGHw/G9ix7XZBPapBn2W57ZCm6pPd6J32+B NT13HyLbHwl+Dxj5ZWg17oeLVayJGi3DERkqlCxBEENlILq3RzLYPDBTnxXdkUJkcxDW eLkg6EJJaixghir0Fya+zIxampLRQtxo0FrZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gG3T0CpcncMFqR50zJJAoEnLS7pQG0zggKWgGpK0TJTKFUAzL5NpSBz6x8wahTUo3F GadeNqKG4fyFDcZPBw9nSPw4aPLGj/FfVaw5qAvUzOszXNYV2qTMh+Mkot3he6FX86oY pPlCSx1RH6+HB4D7CYU7OWJJ6QOG6CzLV7mmY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.203 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:29:54 +0300 Received: by 10.204.134.70 with SMTP id i6mr8336751bkt.74.1270589394468; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:29:56 -0000 So, I want the basejail to only contain the world and link the ports tree from the host into each individual jail when it's time to update the ports inside them, but I am running into a bit of a bizarre issue: I can mount_nullfs /usr/ports elsewhere on the host just fine, but it doesn't work if I try to mount_nullfs it to /usr/ports inside the jail: mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/ports2 df -H | grep ports cerberus/usr-ports 34G 241M 34G 1% /usr/ports cerberus/usr-ports-distfiles 34G 0B 34G 0% /usr/ports/distfiles cerberus/usr-ports-packages 34G 0B 34G 0% /usr/ports/packages /usr/ports 34G 241M 34G 1% /usr/ports2 mount | grep ports cerberus/usr-ports on /usr/ports (zfs, local) cerberus/usr-ports-distfiles on /usr/ports/distfiles (zfs, local) cerberus/usr-ports-packages on /usr/ports/packages (zfs, local) /usr/ports on /usr/ports2 (nullfs, local) mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports mount_nullfs: /basejail: No such file or directory What is going on here? I also note that the error actually wants a /basejail on the host, which is even more bizarre: mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports mount_nullfs: /basejail: No such file or directory mkdir /basejail mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports mount_nullfs: /basejail/usr: No such file or directory Yet, this works: mkdir /usr/jails/semipublic/test mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/test umount /usr/jails/semipublic/test Any ideas? - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 21:40:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9724F106566B; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610F08FC16; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so416902pwi.13 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:40:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=65eCvkwBuLxK2jvSRxoMjrgVm1+Pz2XSydz+YfMS9t0=; b=rcxvIINBhQspxU0hmZMte23LhxTq1uiJSmt35IwWEmyyL6s2AW3XQAB7Z+mEzY6GhS ealCsbjdgyBonpvNPBpnDK6/eirzz38IB77TWDig6XcGwuaW2TyDIe+bMu/ZE5Ma/wzS tzBZMLRWIzWoiYUJR/krWcqHJBvjImjR1WTZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=JkAkscKkpXFpH/fG9kHlcCWiA/t2eFTykFi1ueWp1grrpk5YnIezBzbIz853uQAEoq kFvCQc29SpxJeM2LmBcRRInAsVu5yFCHq7bOnBCeZAjVNAGOZ/r7NTojtZRiXX0mZbno uLRsCi0c9HlSZUsMl/xPS87zKdn394jhFFOPQ= Received: by 10.140.57.7 with SMTP id f7mr6346549rva.201.1270590042847; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p1sm5113361rvq.16.2010.04.06.14.40.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:37:11 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: Dan Naumov Message-ID: <20100406213711.GA38637@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:40:43 -0000 Hi Dan, Dan Naumov wrote: > So, I want the basejail to only contain the world and link the ports > tree from the host into each individual jail when it's time to update > the ports inside them, but I am running into a bit of a bizarre issue: > I can mount_nullfs /usr/ports elsewhere on the host just fine, but it > doesn't work if I try to mount_nullfs it to /usr/ports inside the > jail: > > mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/ports2 > > df -H | grep ports > cerberus/usr-ports 34G 241M 34G 1% /usr/ports > cerberus/usr-ports-distfiles 34G 0B 34G 0% > /usr/ports/distfiles > cerberus/usr-ports-packages 34G 0B 34G 0% > /usr/ports/packages > /usr/ports 34G 241M 34G 1% /usr/ports2 > > mount | grep ports > cerberus/usr-ports on /usr/ports (zfs, local) > cerberus/usr-ports-distfiles on /usr/ports/distfiles (zfs, local) > cerberus/usr-ports-packages on /usr/ports/packages (zfs, local) > /usr/ports on /usr/ports2 (nullfs, local) > > mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports > mount_nullfs: /basejail: No such file or directory > > What is going on here? I also note that the error actually wants a > /basejail on the host, which is even more bizarre: > > mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports > mount_nullfs: /basejail: No such file or directory > > mkdir /basejail > > mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports > mount_nullfs: /basejail/usr: No such file or directory > > Yet, this works: > > mkdir /usr/jails/semipublic/test > mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/test > umount /usr/jails/semipublic/test > > Any ideas? > > The ports directory in an ezjail is a link to /basejail/usr/ports (in the jail). Breaking the link (from the host) allows the mount to work successfully. orion# ll usr/ports lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19 Mar 8 18:06 usr/ports -> /basejail/usr/ports orion# unlink usr/ports orion# mkdir usr/ports orion# mount_nullfs /usr/ports usr/ports orion# Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 21:43:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D136C1065670; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3056F8FC23; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so342921bwz.3 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:43:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qK39l1quqNqKt2f/0vPEn9SLhzQZLUVmE/3BDGdhN1I=; b=Nu+Yem6kwNG0MvFcA1rB4YqStagNHYdPjFaOncBc07qYUQ2kc8HneqBVXxe/l3Tm85 frwA+dBZ3A0nhq6GTzbJmFNQmTf+ZUYEsn1HKYVujqAK7CZfNrLJI/ISjHdp57/JWkHO TKyB+4Iv7uBstE8sxFP2q3LtFCcJZ8OodDVEo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b4Uhnr0OohuB+uSv1McFNfDVkgB2wlTG0NLyZ9F11sARSFznKA7davU4e5Bz2KnmLw g6crkSXeKfspYpN1hDl6iO76iza+m4sQRCbe+E6hdD2vacA246eZUUKv59eZZF9Hehx2 fGZrvfwxZ2TXPgiXJKr940DABh9WvpOtez+S0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.203 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:43:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100406213711.GA38637@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> References: <20100406213711.GA38637@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:43:10 +0300 Received: by 10.204.6.66 with SMTP id 2mr8164279bky.138.1270590190796; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:43:14 -0000 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Glen Barber wrot= e: > Hi Dan, > > Dan Naumov wrote: >> So, I want the basejail to only contain the world and link the ports >> tree from the host into each individual jail when it's time to update >> the ports inside them, but I am running into a bit of a bizarre issue: >> I can mount_nullfs /usr/ports elsewhere on the host just fine, but it >> doesn't work if I try to mount_nullfs it to /usr/ports inside the >> jail: >> >> mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/ports2 >> >> df -H | grep ports >> cerberus/usr-ports =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A034G =A0 =A0241M =A0 = =A0 34G =A0 =A0 1% =A0 =A0/usr/ports >> cerberus/usr-ports-distfiles =A0 =A0 =A034G =A0 =A0 =A00B =A0 =A0 34G = =A0 =A0 0% >> /usr/ports/distfiles >> cerberus/usr-ports-packages =A0 =A0 =A0 34G =A0 =A0 =A00B =A0 =A0 34G = =A0 =A0 0% >> /usr/ports/packages >> /usr/ports =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A034G =A0 =A0241= M =A0 =A0 34G =A0 =A0 1% =A0 =A0/usr/ports2 >> >> mount | grep ports >> cerberus/usr-ports on /usr/ports (zfs, local) >> cerberus/usr-ports-distfiles on /usr/ports/distfiles (zfs, local) >> cerberus/usr-ports-packages on /usr/ports/packages (zfs, local) >> /usr/ports on /usr/ports2 (nullfs, local) >> >> mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports >> mount_nullfs: /basejail: No such file or directory >> >> What is going on here? I also note that the error actually wants a >> /basejail on the host, which is even more bizarre: >> >> mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports >> mount_nullfs: /basejail: No such file or directory >> >> mkdir /basejail >> >> mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports >> mount_nullfs: /basejail/usr: No such file or directory >> >> Yet, this works: >> >> mkdir /usr/jails/semipublic/test >> mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/test >> umount /usr/jails/semipublic/test >> >> Any ideas? >> >> > > The ports directory in an ezjail is a link to /basejail/usr/ports (in the > jail). > > Breaking the link (from the host) allows the mount to work successfully. > > orion# ll usr/ports > lrwxr-xr-x =A01 root =A0wheel =A019 Mar =A08 18:06 usr/ports -> /basejail= /usr/ports > orion# unlink usr/ports > orion# mkdir usr/ports > orion# mount_nullfs /usr/ports usr/ports > orion# > > Regards, > > -- > Glen Barber Thanks for the tip. An additional question: how come "sade" and "sysinstall" which are run inside the jail can see (and I can only assume they can also operate on and damage) the real underlying disks of the host? - Sincerely Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 21:46:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595D01065676 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@rhavenn.net) Received: from smtp154.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp154.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396428FC16 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay25.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay25.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9CA523601FC; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay25.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rhavenn-AT-rhavenn.net) with ESMTPSA id 6229136011E; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by alucard.rhavenn.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 43BEC3F1E; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:46:12 -0800 (AKDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:46:12 -0800 From: Henrik Hudson To: Tom Ierna Message-ID: <20100406214612.GA3015@alucard.int.rhavenn.net> References: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RootBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:46:19 -0000 On Tue, 06 Apr 2010, Tom Ierna wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? > > I'm looking to move an office-hosted machine's services to the cloud, and they seem to be one of the only VPS companies centered around BSD support instead of Linux. I just setup a small VPS with rootbsd and have one with arpnetworks.com as well. Both seem to work fine for my needs so far and both have been responsive to my couple of small support issues. henrik -- Henrik Hudson lists@rhavenn.net ----------------------------------------- "God, root, what is difference?" Pitr; UF From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 22:06:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154E01065672 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmalowsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4EF8FC18 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so134477fxm.3 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:05:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZG5yPnnkE6EhEGZLlFJAqg0DE+kipQIaENM99hbp7dk=; b=P9S8fTf/JUKbBI722LWauCybgq1EvqrX2PVL+fDJKKrzZz209DPfzFxpg4HsLDjPcZ cAT0UhhUmIl2BalCleim0ohs21/6nLSZgdDW3uaRzXxp5jA4wInSG7+w/CH39VxK5zZp 03Ydgy+ROipbUYY8odb+L0L7mSlWpCbNlvohc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=B9Mxp/W0zCQI2oyxsdycObrH6GZc04x243H+O8QvfRRd+0BOTR49EmDztqJsWaBeJM YpSvrQf2AUEficvw2S9xqtW48TdglA+Jd0Ze36i9c4hETN8+G023zRlsySmn3pbEtN8z z209WMpc1gCsKEVviwMdDe7lAOppko7amtHo8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.40.3 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:42:03 +0200 Received: by 10.103.7.31 with SMTP id k31mr4111297mui.132.1270590124218; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Axel Schmalowsky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Interrupt ptr 12h? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:06:00 -0000 Hello list, sometimes my system freezes, and I cannot figure out why. What I do know is that everytime I try to build openoffice, it freezes during the build process. Last time my system froze, the kernel "spat out" the following message: "kerneltrap with interrupt ptr 12h disabled". What does this mean, exactly? please help. -axel -- ______________________________ // A person who is more than casually interested in computers should be well // schooled in machine language, since it is a fundamental part of a computer. -- D.E. Knuth () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against propietary attachments From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 22:17:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819541065676 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F03C58FC08 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 48081 invoked by uid 89); 6 Apr 2010 22:19:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) 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Schwartz" References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <2EE33758-C39C-41DC-B6A8-B34CF6B3B25A@mac.com> <86k4sk1mle.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <66F97B7C-9D27-452B-BCC8-30C960599AE0@mac.com> <86d3yc2zib.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86A6FD8C-EF54-4B61-957E-A88A7272F7C0@mac.com> <868w902sp0.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <868w902sp0.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:17:32 -0000 On 2010.04.06 17:10, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Now, on the other hand, emacs rules, vi sucks. :-) :-) ok, ok. I was on the side of Perl, and was content following this thread, but now I don't like you anymore :P heh ;) Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 23:18:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107901065765 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:18:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gautham@lisphacker.org) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90858FC0A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so43118qwi.7 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:18:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.192.201 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 16:18:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> <20100406133139.GA74437@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:48:45 +0530 Received: by 10.229.224.149 with SMTP id io21mr3040928qcb.64.1270595925908; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Gautham Ganapathy To: Tom Ierna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: RootBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:18:49 -0000 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Tom Ierna wrote: > > On Apr 6, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Glen Barber wrote: > >> Hi Tom, >> >> Tom Ierna wrote: >>> Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? >>> >> >> I've been using RootBSD for a few months now, and would give you nothing >> but positive feedback - however, your question isn't exactly specific. >> >> Is there anything in particular you need to know? > > > I was non-specific on purpose; I'm looking for any stories. > > Also, if anyone has any other FreeBSD-friendly VPS companies they can recommend, that would be great. > > I've looked on this page: > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html > > Linux VPS vendors are a dime-a-dozen and I'm using a great one (Linode) for several servers that I don't need on FreeBSD. > > Basically, I'm looking for a FreeBSD VPS vendor that's as highly regarded as Linode. > > Thanks for your thoughts. > You could also take a look at jvds.com. It's based on freebsd jail though, not xen, so there is a slight loss in flexibility -- Gautham Ganapathy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 23:22:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1978E106568A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rj@unwoven.net) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAD48FC1B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so472729pwi.13 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.91.2 with SMTP id t2mr1794927rvl.111.1270594481946; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.1] ([69.183.22.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b17sm21259rvf.8.2010.04.06.15.54.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BBBBBAD.4070005@unwoven.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:54:37 -0400 From: RJ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> In-Reply-To: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RootBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:22:13 -0000 On 4/6/2010 9:04 AM, Tom Ierna wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? > > I'm looking to move an office-hosted machine's services to the cloud, and they seem to be one of the only VPS companies centered around BSD support instead of Linux. > > Thanks, > -Tom_______________________________________________ > I used them for 2 jail based VPS "Iota" plans for a few months in 2008 before deciding to get dedicated hosting elsewhere. I believe they use full virtual machines via Xen now instead of jails, so my input on their system administration is of little use to you. There were a few kerfuffles, although customer service did seem very responsive. There was downtime due to a RAID controller failure, and my account was credited for it. Since system administration is still on you though, so you might also consider a dedicated server elsewhere if you can push the budget up to at least $50/mo. RJ Herrick unwoven.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 04:02:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F7F106566C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:02:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94D3F8FC24 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11550 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2010 04:02:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2010 04:02:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=CGSrF4FS0343laNZ/hm8trxudGI2MEf2tyqnQ6Ma0xeo+c5KQGUPswE7nC5JrMW923Khl5Gk/u1AEM0W0hQgJ9d1EB+D8rN5f15/LPZZa2OQKTfHf8OXcdFRiQPlEHSO; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NzMSp-0008Id-LE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:02:04 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:01:10 -0600 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:01:10 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD - Message-ID: <20100407030110.GE25911@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD - References: <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <2EE33758-C39C-41DC-B6A8-B34CF6B3B25A@mac.com> <86k4sk1mle.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <66F97B7C-9D27-452B-BCC8-30C960599AE0@mac.com> <86d3yc2zib.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86A6FD8C-EF54-4B61-957E-A88A7272F7C0@mac.com> <868w902sp0.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4BBBB305.4070206@ibctech.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4BBBB305.4070206@ibctech.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:02:05 -0000 --SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 06:17:41PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: > On 2010.04.06 17:10, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >=20 > > Now, on the other hand, emacs rules, vi sucks. :-) :-) >=20 > ok, ok. I was on the side of Perl, and was content following this > thread, but now I don't like you anymore :P >=20 > heh ;) >=20 > Steve I'm willing to let the emacs users have their emacs, and to enjoy my vi. I guess the longer name (emacs) suits people who like pressing more buttons to accomplish the same amount of work anyway. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku79XYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVuwACfdpZY9vmcnyjUyOl++ohG4osM OEQAn2AfhAC9bWTtfEUmba3QSC2X932O =oBZq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SWTRyWv/ijrBap1m-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 04:08:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7A61065676 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DA508FC1C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17961 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2010 04:08:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2010 04:08:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=MuCJ/rXFNzL195Jua2u8u/Kq+crZG2suxrbrlFo+59fBBPLhT0ZLjRPi9AX++6jDWXuw5zSMUt4eGQJLwaBvSFDp/Z6Yuaf9wxucmIn7EApdqygl9jt76CaLGJwRjePJ; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NzMYk-0005dV-D4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:08:11 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0600 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100407030717.GA26298@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:08:12 -0000 --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0100, RW wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 > Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote: > > >=20 > > > IMO this is a bad mistake that other languages were quite right not > > > to copy - a test shouldn't come after a block of code unless it's > > > evaluated after the block (as in repeat...until)=20 > >=20 > > There are more things in heav'n and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt > > of by designers of eagerly evaluated prefix notation languages. >=20 > And most of them are obscure for good reasons. Just because a a syntax > fits into a classification scheme doesn't make it a good idea. The fact something is popular doesn't mean it's a good idea. Shall we trade more trite sniping, or would you like to say something more substantive? In no way, and at no time, did I imply that using "unless" like an infix operator is a good idea just because it fits with a given syntax classification. >=20 > Natural languages are mostly driven by spoken usage, in which people > firm-up half-formed ideas as they speak - this is not a good model for > programming languages. If you are hacking out a quick and dirty script > it may be convenient to type the decision after the action, but it > don't I think it promotes good quality software. This sounds exactly like the complaints Pythonistas use to explain why they have a deep hatred of Perl. If that's how you feel, I'd prefer you stop trying to tell me how Perl should work, and just use something else. >=20 > Imperative languages have a natural order of decision followed by > action, and code is most easily readable if the syntax doesn't try to > subvert that. =20 =2E . . except when the "natural order of decision" varies significantly, such as when comparing functions with operators. It gets even more confusing when both "functions" and "operators" are actually methods in object oriented languages with an imperative design, because suddenly the difference between a "function" and an "operator" becomes purely arbitrary. There's nothing about arbitrariness that suggests a "natural order". It's kind of odd you rail against natural language then talk about imperative languages having a "natural order" -- which is, presumably, based on the expectations of people who have been conditioned to think that way by their use of natural language. Frankly, if everybody just stuck to a purely "natural order of decision" approach to imperative language design, we would never even have developed structured programming. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku79uUACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVyJwCfReaawkwSRNi26PGa0KsW0sLq ckQAnjaauMONpPZxsULf74Rw5aUK5kGP =fNMY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 04:14:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007B61065672 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spry@anarchy.in.the.ph) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33A08FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so615007pwi.13 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:14:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.76.10 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:49:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100406213711.GA38637@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:49:12 +0800 Received: by 10.114.253.33 with SMTP id a33mr4328010wai.143.1270612152257; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Mars G Miro To: Dan Naumov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:14:05 -0000 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Dan Naumov wrote: > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Glen Barber wr= ote: >> Hi Dan, >> >> Dan Naumov wrote: >>> So, I want the basejail to only contain the world and link the ports >>> tree from the host into each individual jail when it's time to update >>> the ports inside them, but I am running into a bit of a bizarre issue: >>> I can mount_nullfs /usr/ports elsewhere on the host just fine, but it >>> doesn't work if I try to mount_nullfs it to /usr/ports inside the >>> jail: >>> >>> mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/ports2 >>> >>> df -H | grep ports >>> cerberus/usr-ports =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A034G =A0 =A0241M =A0 = =A0 34G =A0 =A0 1% =A0 =A0/usr/ports >>> cerberus/usr-ports-distfiles =A0 =A0 =A034G =A0 =A0 =A00B =A0 =A0 34G = =A0 =A0 0% >>> /usr/ports/distfiles >>> cerberus/usr-ports-packages =A0 =A0 =A0 34G =A0 =A0 =A00B =A0 =A0 34G = =A0 =A0 0% >>> /usr/ports/packages >>> /usr/ports =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A034G =A0 =A024= 1M =A0 =A0 34G =A0 =A0 1% =A0 =A0/usr/ports2 >>> >>> mount | grep ports >>> cerberus/usr-ports on /usr/ports (zfs, local) >>> cerberus/usr-ports-distfiles on /usr/ports/distfiles (zfs, local) >>> cerberus/usr-ports-packages on /usr/ports/packages (zfs, local) >>> /usr/ports on /usr/ports2 (nullfs, local) >>> >>> mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports >>> mount_nullfs: /basejail: No such file or directory >>> >>> What is going on here? I also note that the error actually wants a >>> /basejail on the host, which is even more bizarre: >>> >>> mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports >>> mount_nullfs: /basejail: No such file or directory >>> >>> mkdir /basejail >>> >>> mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/usr/ports >>> mount_nullfs: /basejail/usr: No such file or directory >>> >>> Yet, this works: >>> >>> mkdir /usr/jails/semipublic/test >>> mount_nullfs /usr/ports/ /usr/jails/semipublic/test >>> umount /usr/jails/semipublic/test >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> >> >> The ports directory in an ezjail is a link to /basejail/usr/ports (in th= e >> jail). >> >> Breaking the link (from the host) allows the mount to work successfully. >> >> orion# ll usr/ports >> lrwxr-xr-x =A01 root =A0wheel =A019 Mar =A08 18:06 usr/ports -> /basejai= l/usr/ports >> orion# unlink usr/ports >> orion# mkdir usr/ports >> orion# mount_nullfs /usr/ports usr/ports >> orion# >> >> Regards, >> >> -- >> Glen Barber > > Thanks for the tip. > > An additional question: how come "sade" and "sysinstall" which are run > inside the jail can see (and I can only assume they can also operate > on and damage) the real underlying disks of the host? > Disks (as well as others you have in your host's /dev) aren't visible inside jails. > - Sincerely > Dan Naumov > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 cheers mars ----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 04:53:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86AC106566C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wayneburkart@shaw.ca) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A338B8FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd5ml2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.164]) by pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2010 22:24:41 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=2CZFRU-U-IQA:10 a=VphdPIyG4kEA:10 a=3J5pljZuCy9tFqEcLHXXXw==:17 a=RYqXOLec7sItjeJa9PsA:9 a=UJhxJ36_25762Vj5EFKpVjB9x1AA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=ckl82BWpwS2nGuJYsv4A:9 a=ojgIoo7LBiVus3hJxd3lzvxihE4A:4 Received: from unknown (HELO panorama) ([96.55.75.97]) by pd5ml2no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2010 22:24:41 -0600 From: "Wayne Burkart" To: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:24:41 -0700 Message-ID: <000c01cad60a$3e937a70$bbba6f50$@ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Importance: High Thread-Index: AcrWCgkUe1VqsFVZTNSViI6A0mOkZA== Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: BXgY BaCn DE70 DKo5 EGvc ExMj Fv+U GA/o GnMI G/EW H3LN JKu3 JqmS KINa Kbuy Kp1z; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {2D0E49FE-3956-4231-BBB8-2CCB8490DA27}; dwBhAHkAbgBlAGIAdQByAGsAYQByAHQAQABzAGgAYQB3AC4AYwBhAA==; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:24:40 GMT; QwBhAG4AIABmAHIAZQBlAGIAcwBkACAAYgBlACAAaQBuAHMAdABhAGwAbABlAGQAIABvAG4AIABhACAAbgBlAHcAIABtAGEAYwAgAHAAcgBvACAAOAAgAGMAbwByAGUAIABtAGEAYwBoAGkAbgBlACAAPwA= x-cr-puzzleid: {2D0E49FE-3956-4231-BBB8-2CCB8490DA27} X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:30:01 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Can freebsd be installed on a new mac pro 8 core machine ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: wayneburkart@shaw.ca List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:53:07 -0000 Hello, I have a new Mac Pro 8 core desktop machine. I want to install an os that will let me install Cpanel and whm so I can use it as a server. Will FreeBsd install on the new intell based pro macs ? Pleasea advise. Thank you for your time, Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 05:28:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1971D106566B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 05:28:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA798FC19 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 05:28:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 35579519; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:28:44 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:28:44 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: Peter Steele , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "Tim Judd (tajudd@gmail.com)" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:28:40 -0500 Thread-Topic: How customized can an mfsroot be? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 06:00:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633A81065670 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberjosh_16@yahoo.com) Received: from n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED1BD8FC15 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2010 05:47:26 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.133] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2010 05:47:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp106.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2010 05:47:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 315288.44418.bm@omp106.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 48820 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Apr 2010 05:47:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1270619246; bh=3lx6UnApMLc88AjQHPRFL48A4TxAjwGO89sO6LQoW80=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4uebrQ4gBg/TlVeTfvibmf3+3lh0MYt1D3hLiv8BpNI8LKAU+ZAm/6gs2CN9IMSO3AxroN3WenY5ujGseuQQPXQZ4jN9DocrlKQgdq0am65qO3azIHVAq2eHrAcOoC34deya+LTOvb35xdb5jI4r+8u6vVU3XL3mqT1ikqqIrE8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=joHrHTUQLIoeliJeYY+VpXvAz6XRUi6KeUgMtiUI1e19jRzRz+wLoWAlxD/CK34jPH4lCMX60mU9JavxKbYibrqR2whigkiw6Y5TndKOyz7FHtgkSkQj103Fo1aUxsAg1AtSkETzeq0t+1SYeL55NNzMQsB8bKkerGXvsEeJXuo=; Message-ID: <198091.48812.qm@web55808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: v9D1_PEVM1nlQiIrO147rTeYbbYDZWZkRSb3hSfs0xhFitc .Xnzi9dkuc0HzF3SURcleEzFSKrHV4wBY0vxHx9y8J5db0oLhGk_8u2Ykuvj XupyNRjA6gQWjqxGwDRJa7quL2V0.kPkzeydLLoMjaTfnzYx.fy.Cb9wJ.s3 .cKsEbzjL_IHe7RkxZYQiLAeL07wB0j_98laXEn6qkZihJCNf8ADETN.RFZL bzEyfpp8zBdORXa_eRKJN0rdZBVJSOINqiKtWPl0YJQi6Ut1KxBeevl6jpx_ S5_6yExtfahaXpHKolKb3P265sA-- Received: from [202.78.77.233] by web55808.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:47:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:47:25 -0700 (PDT) From: josemel esleta To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 6.2 on esx3.5 network issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:00:05 -0000 Hi, =A0 I currently have installed FreeBSD 6.2 STABLE in esx, I do have problem wit= h download file from the box using ftp/scp service. It seems to be slow hav= ing a Gigabit lan. it just seems to have going about 100Kbps-500Kpbs on dow= nload speed. But I do have high upload speed ranging from 4-5MBps. Is there= any adjustments that needs to be done on the kernel? =A0 Thanks Josh=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 06:28:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3DD1065676; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4408FC14; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so554740bwz.3 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:28:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7Bw2Qb09NoH4aAyyWzNZ9J2iEV6s8mcrH6anjY65V0E=; b=tU5uXp300+g5hbMrBUlAxXyZnM6AauBXwrngGUvzV8IhwPkH/T/HtHU+hP/DdYfc5+ C6txdQ47/sBxPGKLrJNxmpNDO2ZZKWhOL/0TNenfDVxAwKnIVNo6UsV4fKUCUmnpsVhR 6LTuUPk61h7TMKx2HSrej3xdrmmTw2R/cCkIY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ASNpWA+PMOAsjqm0bfyiFcwVWxW6ZjMiZ/nZ/ubDlgcy+ZiVmj1fllxmJt73iXciI3 fP8Nzh6mX9td5EnFUj0QvaghqeZPzWSHh4hX1TP6YrHFCvbEvKoosXK/GLC0KfIBzslz Co1VDn7q1uYU5b9/BxV2Ebcemf8BZH+1GyVy4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.203 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:28:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100406213711.GA38637@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:28:23 +0300 Received: by 10.204.7.201 with SMTP id e9mr562183bke.122.1270621703621; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: Mars G Miro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:28:25 -0000 >> An additional question: how come "sade" and "sysinstall" which are run >> inside the jail can see (and I can only assume they can also operate >> on and damage) the real underlying disks of the host? >> > > Disks (as well as others you have in your host's /dev) aren't visible > inside jails. Well, somehow they are on my system. I guess I should've also clarified that the jail was installed using ezjail and not completely manually >From /usr/local/etc/ezjail/semipublic export jail_semipublic_devfs_enable="YES" export jail_semipublic_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_jail" - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 06:43:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED4E106566C; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spry@anarchy.in.the.ph) Received: from mail-pz0-f197.google.com (mail-pz0-f197.google.com [209.85.222.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156CC8FC0C; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk35 with SMTP id 35so614479pzk.3 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:43:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.76.10 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:43:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100406213711.GA38637@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:43:11 +0800 Received: by 10.114.22.5 with SMTP id 5mr2777386wav.51.1270622591786; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Mars G Miro To: Dan Naumov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:43:13 -0000 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Dan Naumov wrote: >>> An additional question: how come "sade" and "sysinstall" which are run >>> inside the jail can see (and I can only assume they can also operate >>> on and damage) the real underlying disks of the host? >>> >> >> Disks (as well as others you have in your host's /dev) aren't visible >> inside jails. > > Well, somehow they are on my system. > > I guess I should've also clarified that the jail was installed using > ezjail and not completely manually > > From /usr/local/etc/ezjail/semipublic > > export jail_semipublic_devfs_enable="YES" > export jail_semipublic_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_jail" > Well I'm not entirely familiar w/ ezjail but I use jails all the time, and I can tell you that /dev in jails is very limited, here's a /dev jail of mine: mars@spry9:~> ls -al /dev/ total 2 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 58 Mar 27 03:02 crypto dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 27 03:12 fd dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 30 20:00 iso9660 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Mar 27 03:12 log -> ../var/run/log crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 33 Apr 7 14:33 null crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 7 Mar 27 03:02 ptmx dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 27 03:22 pts crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 10 Mar 27 11:12 random lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 Mar 27 03:12 stderr -> fd/2 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 Mar 27 03:12 stdin -> fd/0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 Mar 27 03:12 stdout -> fd/1 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Mar 27 03:12 urandom -> random crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 34 Mar 27 03:02 zero mars@spry9:~> So I guess it's a configuration issue w/ your jails. > - Sincerely, > Dan Naumov > -- cheers mars ----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 07:10:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C7B106566B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp1.comclark.com (avmxsmtp1.comclark.com [202.69.191.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9648FC14 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:10:16 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnkWAKbMu0vKRa7iPGdsb2JhbAAHh12TYwEBAQE1uhWFCQSDIg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,377,1267372800"; d="scan'208";a="12992082" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.174.226]) by avmxsmtp5.comclark.com with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2010 15:10:13 +0800 Message-ID: <4BBC2FD0.3040204@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:10:08 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Naumov References: <20100406213711.GA38637@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mars G Miro , freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:10:17 -0000 Dan Naumov wrote: >>> An additional question: how come "sade" and "sysinstall" which are run >>> inside the jail can see (and I can only assume they can also operate >>> on and damage) the real underlying disks of the host? >>> >> Disks (as well as others you have in your host's /dev) aren't visible >> inside jails. > > Well, somehow they are on my system. > > I guess I should've also clarified that the jail was installed using > ezjail and not completely manually > >>From /usr/local/etc/ezjail/semipublic > > export jail_semipublic_devfs_enable="YES" > export jail_semipublic_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_jail" > > - Sincerely, > Dan Naumov > > You are not in a jail but as the host. Use ezjail-admin console jailname and things will look alot different. What you are playing with are ezjails system control files. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 07:13:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E87106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF26E8FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o377D2d2019034 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:13:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BBC307E.2060504@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:13:02 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wayneburkart@shaw.ca References: <000c01cad60a$3e937a70$bbba6f50$@ca> In-Reply-To: <000c01cad60a$3e937a70$bbba6f50$@ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can freebsd be installed on a new mac pro 8 core machine ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:13:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/2010 05:24:41, Wayne Burkart wrote: > I have a new Mac Pro 8 core desktop machine. I want to install an os that > will let me install Cpanel and whm so I can use it as a server. Will FreeBsd > install on the new intell based pro macs ? Pleasea advise. That's a clear "maybe" -- FreeBSD works on some Macs, but not all: for instance it has trouble with the latest Mac pro laptops. Whether this applies to the desktops as well I don't know. I suggest downloading either the USB installer image, the livefs CD or the DVD image; cutting the appropriate media and seeing if you can get your machine to boot and run from that media. If so, then you should be pretty safe installing FreeBSD onto the hard drive. I'd try 8.0-RELEASE first, and failing that, one of the 9.x snapshots (although I doubt you'll get cPanel to support running under 9.x) Note that you can partition the hard drive using Bootcamp without wiping out an existing MacOS X installation. You can then install FreeBSD instead of Windows -- this apparently works quite well, although you'll have to put up with MacOS always referring to the other partition as containing "Windows". Or you can install FreeBSD as a guest under VirtualBox, although that's going to needa bit of finessing to make the VirtualBox guest visible from the external network. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku8MH4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwN4QCeLiggPRMAasFnURvwEss8KJZy 02AAnRHu7omXDxeg3iJU6V3bMvlPDdDa =YbyP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 07:22:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0421065674 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706418FC15 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o377MC33023155 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:22:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BBC32A4.1080906@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:22:12 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Steele References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FDD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8066@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84AD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84AD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "Tim Judd \(tajudd@gmail.com\)" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:22:17 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/2010 06:28:40, Peter Steele wrote: > I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks > like what the auto-var process does is a construct basic directory > structure but no data. Is there a solution to this? Can I get /var to > be populated with the full contents of the real /var? Can you write a few shell scripts? You'ld need to create a tarball of the /var contents you need on the box, and explode it onto /var at boot time -- if you're using auto-var on MFS all the time, you'll need to set that up to happen on every reboot. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku8MqMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyVvQCfemeBFn3dIshT6hCXQTxXksGU tREAmwWSJlAFsZC0YO5b1Z2uinCssdqp =5x6X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 07:24:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275F0106566B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E248FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.226]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:24:59 -0700 Message-ID: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:24:51 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2010 07:24:59.0763 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E628430:01CAD623] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:24:59 -0000 Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 07:35:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD101106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE078FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-100-7.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.100.7]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFF61E68E; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:35:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o377ZbRB002250; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:35:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:35:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd1 Message-Id: <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:35:41 -0000 On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:24:51 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only > contain binaries installed from ports or packages. No. The /usr/local subtree (LOCAL) is for local additions (ports and packages), while things outside this structure usually belong to the system itself; I'm excluding mounted filesystem and other things here for a moment. /usr/ contains the majority of user utilities and applications bin/ common utilities, programming tools, and applica- tions But: local/ local executables, libraries, etc. Also used as the default destination for the FreeBSD ports framework. Within local/, the general layout sketched out by hier for /usr should be used. Exceptions are the man directory (directly under local/ rather than under local/share/), ports documentation (in share/doc//), and /usr/local/etc (mimics /etc). Because we are on FreeBSD, there's excellent documentation that shows how and why the system tree has a well intended layout. :-) The command % man hier will explain everything in detail. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 07:56:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679B51065670 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f171.google.com (mail-yw0-f171.google.com [209.85.211.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E7B8FC12 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1so448132ywh.3 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:56:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5cxBDGvYOEAHhcWQNDHGDAiFOGT/4/bUXrkOyOU5r5Q=; b=D0eqVqOK7rWwWyAwcELmVvfNZUktT4uZA5T4kWCi+RVKry/thpbFp9oCSuH+XAmM/+ vFRDHa2x+k1FU3yuE2L33cworNtOPGC64G69mPtoaV6kZN34TUatern++fazjQXb8Zsg WeR/WIb6rgC8uDOGTVgV/ZpApl1CiYxwiUnec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DZSm9lTfcNLNQugkvQPfFr6v/vMRS+sz3IxCbfn2jU7HaUexYcgVdZQyKxMrj5hSPc 5vw7Jlf7VRcV5qN9Kp5qVp+JcuGQN5Dz+wAMARFjn71cw1zIV+TMnTBKIO/EdnFCAa2U pVw95i1HU4rVnLWLdDzeRpC+tfMUZY39EMOGI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.60.197 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:54:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <198091.48812.qm@web55808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <198091.48812.qm@web55808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> From: Ross Cameron Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:54:55 +0200 Received: by 10.150.183.6 with SMTP id g6mr9154141ybf.53.1270626977301; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 00:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: To: josemel esleta Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.2 on esx3.5 network issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:56:18 -0000 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:47 AM, josemel esleta wro= te: > Hi, > > I currently have installed FreeBSD 6.2 STABLE in esx, I do have problem w= ith download file from the box using ftp/scp service. It seems to be slow h= aving a Gigabit lan. it just seems to have going about 100Kbps-500Kpbs on d= ownload speed. But I do have high upload speed ranging from 4-5MBps. Is the= re any adjustments that needs to be done on the kernel? > Well for a start FreeBSD 6.x is no longer supported by the community. I would suggest upgrading to at LEAST the current release of FreeBSD 7.x and preferably 8.x As there is a very low likelihood that there will be any stability or security updates for the 6.x series. --=20 "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 08:26:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5595B106566B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBCF8FC1B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1NzQav-000C59-5e; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:26:41 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov To: Peter Steele References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FDD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8066@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84AD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:26:40 +0400 In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84AD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> (Peter Steele's message of "Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:28:40 -0500") Message-ID: <63233343@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:26:44 -0000 On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:28:40 -0500 Peter Steele wrote: > I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks > like what the auto-var process does is a construct basic directory > structure but no data. Is there a solution to this? Can I get /var to > be populated with the full contents of the real /var? I'm sure that DISKLESS(8) may give you some hints. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 08:27:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398571065673 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: from mailgate.procreditbank.bg (mailgate.procreditbank.bg [193.26.216.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 620908FC1A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:27:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 53006 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2010 11:26:58 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO domino.procreditbank.bg) (10.0.0.15) by 192.168.1.3 with SMTP; 7 Apr 2010 11:26:58 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.5 December 05, 2008 From: Ivailo Tanusheff Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:26:59 +0300 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMINO/BULGARIA/PROCREDITBANK(Release 7.0.2FP2|May 14, 2007) at 07.04.2010 11:26:59, Serialize complete at 07.04.2010 11:26:59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:27:01 -0000 Because /usr/local is used to store binaries installed from ports or packages :) You should check the man pages or the handbook for this. Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff Deputy Head of IT Department ProCredit Bank (Bulgaria) AD Fbsd1 Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 07.04.2010 10:25 To FreeBSD Questions cc Subject usage of /usr/bin Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 09:13:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB11106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A568FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.226]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 02:13:22 -0700 Message-ID: <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:13:13 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2010 09:13:22.0245 (UTC) FILETIME=[922A8750:01CAD632] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:13:22 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:24:51 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: >> Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only >> contain binaries installed from ports or packages. > > No. The /usr/local subtree (LOCAL) is for local additions (ports > and packages), while things outside this structure usually belong > to the system itself; I'm excluding mounted filesystem and other > things here for a moment. > > /usr/ contains the majority of user utilities and applications > > bin/ common utilities, programming tools, and applica- > tions > > But: > > local/ local executables, libraries, etc. Also used as the > default destination for the FreeBSD ports framework. > Within local/, the general layout sketched out by > hier for /usr should be used. Exceptions are the > man directory (directly under local/ rather than > under local/share/), ports documentation (in > share/doc//), and /usr/local/etc (mimics > /etc). > > Because we are on FreeBSD, there's excellent documentation > that shows how and why the system tree has a well intended > layout. :-) > > The command > > % man hier > > will explain everything in detail. > > > > But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. And I am sure postfix is not the only port to do this also. This intermingling of RELEASE binaries and port binaries in /usr/bin is a really big problem when trying to build jails. Any past ports which have been included into the base release should not be in /usr period. Saying system user utilizes are in /user/bin then why is fdisk or sysinstall not there also. That don't make sense. It time to modernize the directory layout keeping all RELEASE binaries out of /usr. I would think moving the /usr RELEASE binaries by the RELEASE development team is a far smaller task then reviewing all 21,500 ports for the bad ones that don't target /usr/local/bin and then correcting their make files. Before jails this problem was not a problem, But with the growing usage of jails this is becoming a major incentive to not use jails at all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 10:15:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6183106566C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from c.mail.ru.ac.za (c.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CA38FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:15:23 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=p/xLb3MxPXvp3eXCERlGalvij1zxqRQy535Cg6+IevsGw+qrDYiieGRBNRvBFf4YYn478ZRXZsxuW4lhkQ6nGcV0r/HLyyygsTZmt5Jq+u9YjM9eEu7ACvh84W39YsA4; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:60331) by c.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NzSI2-00069z-MJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:15:18 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:15:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: c.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:3) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:15:24 -0000 On Wednesday 07 April 2010 11:13:13 Fbsd1 wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:24:51 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > >> Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only > >> contain binaries installed from ports or packages. > > > > No. The /usr/local subtree (LOCAL) is for local additions (ports > > and packages), while things outside this structure usually belong > > to the system itself; I'm excluding mounted filesystem and other > > things here for a moment. [snip] > > But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. I haven't installed postfix, but is this possibly related to the recently (2010-03-22) added option to install postfix into the base? In which case the commit six days later claims to correct a problem with the default (non-base) install. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 10:21:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E6F106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christian.baer@uni-dortmund.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D698FC1B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (p508C32A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.140.50.167]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LzFLh-1NV0zi1oPZ-014o9n; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:08:59 +0200 Message-ID: <4BBC59D3.3080908@uni-dortmund.de> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:09:23 +0200 From: Christian Baer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.24 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19FlU+TlJshq31IRgMrOpgE+RZLb1Uc8XvlnN2 dcQspXif27LJE9W6MqP1Ptw8FLWbNORL7zRyw14gcQyfhRpFLY YPAg8QK1gmjYVULa+TlcT6EIydVx3A5 Subject: make installworld broke - try again? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:21:43 -0000 Hi there peeps! I just tried to update from 8.0-RELEASE to RELENG_8_0. I gut this far: - buildworld - buildkernel - installkernel - reboot - mergemaster -p Then I started a make buildworld and it broke here: install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sort /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 sort.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo (install) ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libtxi (install) ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo (install) install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 makeinfo /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 makeinfo.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info (install) install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 info /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 info.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 install -o root -g wheel -m 444 info.5.gz /usr/share/man/man5 install -o root -g wheel -m 444 texinfo.5.gz /usr/share/man/man5 ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/infokey (install) install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 infokey /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 infokey.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info (install) install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 install-info /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 install-info.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/texindex (install) install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 texindex /usr/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 texindex.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc (install) install-info --quiet --defsection=Miscellaneous --defentry= info.info /usr/share/info/dir install-info --quiet --defsection=Miscellaneous --defentry= info-stnd.info /usr/share/info/dir install-info --quiet --defsection=Miscellaneous --defentry= texinfo.info /usr/share/info/dir install -o root -g wheel -m 444 info.info.gz info-stnd.info.gz texinfo.info.gz /usr/share/info ===> include (install) creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh touch: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/src/include. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Obviously, just trying to install again won't do any good (this isn't Windows), I'm just a little careful about breaking the system. It is also possible that I broke this by playing with the compiler-options (I added 'CFLAGS+= -mcpu=ultrasparc' in make.conf). Maybe that broke my world. Would it be a good idea to simply remove this entry and/or update the source, recompile and try to install again? I don't really want to break the system so it doesn't boot again, because after that, it's usually easier to reinstall it from scratch - especially if you are setting up a new system as I am now. Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 10:39:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F01D1065670 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E728FC0C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:39:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-100-7.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.100.7]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25953C852; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:39:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o37Adeil002776; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:39:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:39:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd1 Message-Id: <20100407123939.76b2227d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:39:44 -0000 On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:13:13 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > But that is not true. It is, and the example you're giving is one of the exceptions that secures the truth of the statement given in "man hier". :-) > The postfix port populates /usr/bin. And I am sure > postfix is not the only port to do this also. Basically, there are ports that can be installed outside /usr/local, or are especially intended to be. For example postfix, a MTA that can replace the system one's (sendmail), so it takes its position. Other ports also allow the setting of a certain PREFIX variable that will override /usr/local, which is the default setting. Note that it isn't very often done, and if it is, it is intended (as the postfix example you've given, or the sometimes requested statically linked bash within the base system). > This intermingling of > RELEASE binaries and port binaries in /usr/bin is a really big problem > when trying to build jails. Yes, understandable. > Any past ports which have been included into > the base release should not be in /usr period. It has been the system administrator who decides to install them there. If he insists on replacing some part of the base system with a port, or to add a port outside of /usr/local, it's his decision to do so. Of course, this can lead into problems. > Saying system user utilizes are in /user/bin then why is fdisk or > sysinstall not there also. Because the creators of FreeBSD have decided that those programs to belong to different "classes" of programs, and according to "man hier": /usr/sbin/sysinstall /usr/ contains the majority of user utilities and applications sbin/ system daemons & system utilities (executed by users) /sbin/fdisk /sbin/ system programs and administration utilities fundamental to both single-user and multi-user environments There are often decisions that aren't obvious (or even don't make sense) at first sight. > That don't make sense. There are some historical reasons for that. Would you believe me if I told you that the mount binary historically was /etc/mount? Or /etc/fsck? Or how about /bin/adm? Other kinds of UNIX have different hierarchy concepts and naming conventions. And Linux has many more. > It time to modernize > the directory layout keeping all RELEASE binaries out of /usr. Hmmm... modernize... I know of some Linux that maps all the "historical" locations into Programs/ or Config/ subtrees... I'm not sure if I would be happy with FreeBSd going the same way, or even further, because I usually find things when I need to search from them, and I can mostly do it by brain - rather than /usr/bin/find. :-) > I would think moving the /usr RELEASE binaries by the RELEASE > development team is a far smaller task then reviewing all 21,500 ports > for the bad ones that don't target /usr/local/bin and then correcting > their make files. If should be relatively easy to spot them by variations of Makefile, especially the mentioned PREFIX setting which needs to be overridden in order to leave /usr/local. If I have that in mond correctly, LOCALBASE is the name of the variable that controls where things are put; there was another one called X11BASE, which is deprecated because /usr/X11R6 is now "inside" /usr/local. > Before jails this problem was not a problem, But with > the growing usage of jails this is becoming a major incentive to not use > jails at all. On the other hand, if you encounter such a problem by the presence of a nonstandard - meaning "not being part of the base system" - mail transfer agent, then maybe its documentation should mention to pay attention when using it instead of what the system brings, so further problems with jails can be avoided, or at least cured (by a correct procedure given in the documentation). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 11:01:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F024106567B; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FE58FC1E; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so740875bwz.3 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:01:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=x0ZS/T3MGm++xJCTlUzcjbuhSwf3yOYA42WAfbLiD/0=; b=JaBxaNTvLj3JHUCxOQYqUvslCDud3cpIDyaCDKiEHGcse3rWHoyhR+rwSYs93y5tsB hzpG1ecUJR5N0prZr7MqTnpUeOoL3ZNCYb+O3AItOhWWv3+mzsVjRMVUHBRS3pWoGm9I p3aOFlj1r+WH0c8WTIZAnolPlY2c+4klGFBv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hRRygY3rwS8mrFcazwhs43Lw4yoUMK3teQUvEkWmVklOoS8z8DN5fUNuWN1/GJOs7o ZyHzDNZBFSS1RtnTyGhZhktJYIT7sQBBkldkhlYVyP3hYp5vNlU3zOJis7Or+owOhMqo HhCRg2wOZ+UL5IMBMcU1FozZyM/ulrBdKRSKk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.203 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:01:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BBC2FD0.3040204@comclark.com> References: <20100406213711.GA38637@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> <4BBC2FD0.3040204@comclark.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:01:47 +0300 Received: by 10.204.7.201 with SMTP id e9mr821498bke.122.1270638107976; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Mars G Miro , freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bizarre mount_nullfs issue with jails / ezjail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:01:50 -0000 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Aiza wrote: > Dan Naumov wrote: >>>> >>>> An additional question: how come "sade" and "sysinstall" which are run >>>> inside the jail can see (and I can only assume they can also operate >>>> on and damage) the real underlying disks of the host? >>>> >>> Disks (as well as others you have in your host's /dev) aren't visible >>> inside jails. >> >> Well, somehow they are on my system. >> >> I guess I should've also clarified that the jail was installed using >> ezjail and not completely manually >> >>> From /usr/local/etc/ezjail/semipublic >> >> export jail_semipublic_devfs_enable="YES" >> export jail_semipublic_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_jail" >> >> - Sincerely, >> Dan Naumov >> >> > You are not in a jail but as the host. Use ezjail-admin console jailname and > things will look alot different. What you are playing with are ezjails > system control files. No, I am not, I am running sade / sysinstall INSIDE THE JAIL (AFTER ezjail-admin console jailname or after connecting to the jail via ssh). - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 11:10:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758731065674 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3708FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:09:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31597875 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:09:58 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:09:59 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:09:56 -0500 Thread-Topic: How customized can an mfsroot be? 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Could someone list the URL for that notice or tell me where to look for it? :-? Thanks %-\ -- Jerry FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ "My God! Are we sure he was a liberal?" "Pretty sure. They pulled him from a Volvo." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 11:38:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B901065673 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0351B8FC19 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o37BcK9b074534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:38:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BBC6EAC.1060500@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:38:20 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Steele References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FDD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8066@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84AD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <4BBC32A4.1080906@infracaninophile.co.uk> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84B5@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84B5@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:38:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/2010 12:09:56, Peter Steele wrote: >> Can you write a few shell scripts? You'ld need to create a tarball >> of the /var contents you need on the box, and explode it onto /var >> at boot time -- if you're using auto-var on MFS all the time, >> you'll need to set that up to happen on every reboot. > Obviously I can do that. What I was really asking was if there was a > BSD option to do this automatically. I don't want to needlessly bloat > the image if I can avoid it since this is to become a downloadable iso. There is no pre-canned method to copy data into /var. The closest thing is /etc/rc.d/var which creates a skeleton directory tree. This is designed for diskless usage -- if you look at the script, it's pretty easy to see it doesn't have much in the way of customization hooks. Basically you get what's recorded in the mtree files: BSD.var.dist and (optionally) BSD.sendmail.dist Like I said, you're going to have to script it yourself. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku8bqwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwkKQCcD4gISCSOdZQYWUAJk7DtSUrg tvsAn1YCo4veOCfusEJfzIA1GIxEplCp =uQPM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 12:06:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D2B106566B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from f.mail.ru.ac.za (f.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527E18FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:06:51 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=hgLehmf+TMhXVib4c8jIXOSadbw9uIwVZpuPg7k62Im80r5i3ujxp5ecv/NM2iX4vA/hBNmvTOJyDzYJgrz4fCOmFeu8HR8dp+2wmns4UmBUKCwtgPbNPW/txWFm+95i; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:54848) by f.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NzU1w-000I4U-LU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:06:48 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:06:48 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20100407073407.08653f26@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20100407073407.08653f26@scorpio.seibercom.net> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: f.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:6) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: Postfix in base system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:06:52 -0000 On Wednesday 07 April 2010 13:34:07 Jerry wrote: > I noticed that someone in another thread mentioned: > > > "(2010-03-22) added option to install Postfix into the base" > > > I have not been able to locate that item. Could someone list the URL > for that notice or tell me where to look for it? :-? > > Thanks %-\ I found it in the cvsweb interface to the ports tree: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/mail/postfix/Makefile Which lists rev1.155 with the commit message: Add an option to install into the base, and related support HTH Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 12:10:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD35106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f224.google.com (mail-ew0-f224.google.com [209.85.219.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2828FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:10:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so441875ewy.33 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:10:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Itsegd2LZE4B22h7FXRJhHj19boOvDUD0/MHuWMtBQg=; b=pKa7Eal5U8CbmJaeMX54zcnq9jurA7HcJ2h7wpbplIQDbHOLDtz/9RkV+8YyuI1931 p4dnGUwiF8p5bqefRnoCeJ/Ghela7LxWhHTxv7plEncqUyUcXhl80n/eH5iq90mHbCdO B14EOQwP4FWOviITb8cXjY+F12QlGQaXiNcxI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Tu39FOzTVMpylw5o16ZmhKguqX4i33ksJ+e3RXTb9fPp0vWJTjw7eRzt6Xb6kI+i2S gwSDlJL7IB8s04yihuXhRzKTChElgD5im9VVOFufK3uSQyJdXjKGUWI970IdBuL3MMjS Q1n3Yp7Zi4ynPSPybqI0hMd2EusUR05Wnb+UE= Received: by 10.213.44.206 with SMTP id b14mr1924419ebf.45.1270642199628; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j8sm129768gvb.1.2010.04.07.05.09.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:09:54 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100407130954.4fd56215@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100407030717.GA26298@guilt.hydra> References: <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100407030717.GA26298@guilt.hydra> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:10:01 -0000 On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0100, RW wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 > > Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote: > > > There are more things in heav'n and earth, Horatio, than are > > > dreamt of by designers of eagerly evaluated prefix notation > > > languages. > > > > And most of them are obscure for good reasons. Just because a a > > syntax fits into a classification scheme doesn't make it a good > > idea. > Shall we trade more trite sniping, or would you like to say something > more substantive? You started it. > > > > Natural languages are mostly driven by spoken usage, in which people > > firm-up half-formed ideas as they speak - this is not a good model > > for programming languages. If you are hacking out a quick and dirty > > script it may be convenient to type the decision after the action, > > but it don't I think it promotes good quality software. > > This sounds exactly like the complaints Pythonistas use to explain why > they have a deep hatred of Perl. If that's how you feel, I'd prefer > you stop trying to tell me how Perl should work, and just use > something else. I'm not, I'm expressing an opinion that this is not a feature worth copying. > > Imperative languages have a natural order of decision followed by > > action, and code is most easily readable if the syntax doesn't try > > to subvert that. > > . . . except when the "natural order of decision" varies > significantly, such as when comparing functions with operators. It > gets even more confusing when both "functions" and "operators" are > actually methods in object oriented languages with an imperative > design, because suddenly the difference between a "function" and an > "operator" becomes purely arbitrary. There's nothing about > arbitrariness that suggests a "natural order". Expression are different. When you are trying to understand thousands of lines of code, the order of execution within an expression is fine detail, but the flow of execution is something that needs to be taken-in easily. > It's kind of odd you rail against natural language then talk about I'm not railing again natural languages, I just don't think they have much relevance. > imperative languages having a "natural order" -- which is, presumably, > based on the expectations of people who have been conditioned to think > that way by their use of natural language. No, it's conditioned by causality, and other mainstream programming languages. People juggle a lot of languages, being different for the sake of it isn't very helpful. > Frankly, if everybody just stuck to a purely "natural order of > decision" approach to imperative language design, we would never even > have developed structured programming. I have no idea what you trying to say here. I presume it must be some kind of straw man argument. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 12:20:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8BB106566C; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FA48FC23; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so2767fxm.3 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:20:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vI/7IJrMjJNG2uxfMcM3MCV0spjZiAdoFhOnOFSHK70=; b=EsCrcHoaFluIPWuE1qHfa0kGtY9T2G1cSv42pLDjRa5vO7NoaDND7bzFaaOOUkb6fO 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Tetcu , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:20:50 -0000 Garret, I have tried the command out, but it apparently does not do the job: =3D=3D=3D>>> Continuing 'make config' dependency check for graphics/graphvi= z =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libgnomeui =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching 'make checksum' for x11-toolkits/libgnomeui in backg= round =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for x11-toolkits/libgnomeui from por= ts =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting recursive 'make config' check =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update gvfs-1.2.3_2 jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/devel/gvfs =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching 'make checksum' for devel/gvfs in background =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for devel/gvfs from ports =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting recursive 'make config' check =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update libsoup-2.26.3_2 jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 >> libsoup-2.26.3_2 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/devel/libsoup =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching 'make checksum' for devel/libsoup in background =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for devel/libsoup from ports =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting recursive 'make config' check =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update sqlite3-3.6.14.2 to sqlite3-3.6.19 jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 >> libsoup-2.26.3_2 >> sqlite3-3.6.14.2 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/databases/sqlite3 =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching 'make checksum' for databases/sqlite3 in background =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for databases/sqlite3 from ports =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting recursive 'make config' check =3D=3D=3D>>> Recursive 'make config' check complete for databases/sqlite3 jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 >> libsoup-2.26.3_2 >> sqlite3-3.6.14.2 =3D=3D=3D>>> Continuing 'make config' dependency check for devel/libsoup =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 >> libsoup-2.26.3_2 >> gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/security/gnome-keyring =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching 'make checksum' for security/gnome-keyring in backgr= ound =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for security/gnome-keyring from port= s =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting recursive 'make config' check =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update libgcrypt-1.4.4 to libgcrypt-1.4.5 jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 >> libsoup-2.26.3_2 >> gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 >> libgcrypt-1.4.4 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/security/libgcrypt =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for security/libgcrypt from ports =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting recursive 'make config' check =3D=3D=3D>>> Recursive 'make config' check complete for security/libgcrypt jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 >> libsoup-2.26.3_2 >> gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 >> libgcrypt-1.4.4 =3D=3D=3D>>> Continuing 'make config' dependency check for security/gnome-k= eyring =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update libtasn1-2.3 to libtasn1-2.4 jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 >> libsoup-2.26.3_2 >> gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 >> libtasn1-2.3 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/security/libtasn1 =3D=3D=3D>>> Gathering dependency list for security/libtasn1 from ports =3D=3D=3D>>> Starting recursive 'make config' check =3D=3D=3D>>> Recursive 'make config' check complete for security/libtasn1 jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 >> libsoup-2.26.3_2 >> gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 >> libtasn1-2.3 =3D=3D=3D>>> Continuing 'make config' dependency check for security/gnome-k= eyring =3D=3D=3D>>> Recursive 'make config' check complete for security/gnome-keyr= ing jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 >> libsoup-2.26.3_2 >> gnome-keyring-2.26.3_1 =3D=3D=3D>>> Continuing 'make config' dependency check for devel/libsoup =3D=3D=3D>>> Recursive 'make config' check complete for devel/libsoup jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 >> libsoup-2.26.3_2 =3D=3D=3D>>> Continuing 'make config' dependency check for devel/gvfs =3D=3D=3D>>> Launching child to update sysutils/fusefs-kmod jpeg-8_1 >> arts-1.5.10_2,1 >> jackit-0.116.2_2 >> devel/doxygen >> graphics/graphviz >> libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 >> gvfs-1.2.3_2 >> sysutils/fusefs-kmod =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod =3D=3D=3D>>> This port is marked IGNORE =3D=3D=3D>>> requires the userland sources to be installed. Set SRC_BASE if it is not in /usr/src =3D=3D=3D>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the IGNORE line in the Makefile and try again. =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for sysutils/fusefs-kmod failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for gvfs-1.2.3_2 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for libgnomeui-2.24.1_1 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for graphics/graphviz failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for devel/doxygen failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for jackit-0.116.2_2 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for arts-1.5.10_2,1 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update Terminated What should I do in this case? Thanks, Antonio On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Antonio Olivares > wrote: >> Ion-Mihai, >> >> Does this fix the following issue? >> >> I have installed FreeBSD 8.0 and updated it to current p2 >> >> =A0I try to use konqueror and I get >> >> =A0There was an error loading the module About-Page for Konqueror. >> =A0The diagnostics is: >> =A0Cannot load library /usr/local/kde4/lib/kde4/konq_aboutpage.so: >> =A0(Shared object "libjpeg.so.10" not found, required by "libkhtml.so.7"= ) >> >> Other programs like kile and k3b don't work because of the same >> message or others. =A0I did not know about this, otherwise I would not >> have tried to install these programs in the first place, till the >> coast was clear :( >> >> Thanks though, I saw the message a little bit late :( > > =A0 =A0Nope. You need to update all of jpeg. See UPDATING for more > details (but substitute this for the portmaster directions: " > portmaster -r 'jpeg-*' ". > HTH, > -Garrett > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 12:36:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5035B106566C; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (worf.ds9.tecnik93.com [81.196.207.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31AA8FC13; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (it.buh.tecnik93.com [81.196.204.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D17D722C50BC; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:36:38 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:36:38 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20100407153638.6e0be5d8@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20100328163828.1f34e0e7@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20100405213133.3b29591f@it.buh.tecnik93.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/J_UEwwpQklmD+8dkZ6xNVr8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: Garrett Cooper , stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:36:40 -0000 --Sig_/J_UEwwpQklmD+8dkZ6xNVr8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:20:47 -0500 Antonio Olivares wrote: [ .. ] > =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod > =3D=3D=3D>>> This port is marked IGNORE > =3D=3D=3D>>> requires the userland sources to be installed. Set = =20 > SRC_BASE if it is not in /usr/src >=20 > =3D=3D=3D>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the =20 > IGNORE line in the Makefile and try again. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for sysutils/fusefs-kmod failed > =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =20 [ .. ] =20 > What should I do in this case? First, please don't top post. Second, you don't seem to have the base sources installed and that port, being a kernel module, needs them. See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html --=20 IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B --Sig_/J_UEwwpQklmD+8dkZ6xNVr8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku8fFYACgkQJ7GIuiH/oeUaKgCfdcBGUTFn9S8uLzy+Up+oh7MT gOAAn1qdmKIYgLTZzeKfkOBGBf8hx22r =eB/w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/J_UEwwpQklmD+8dkZ6xNVr8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 12:41:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B061065677 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752148FC18 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so928888pwi.13 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:41:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2NrXL6ywmRzs2MI8P6U9F04Gfcq0LzETd+SqCIcflrU=; b=O5AOvT95K2H0GNVPqKnId0R8bu9kZEGRcE7qyzmoFtKgc1LCL62iEnShrdf4retqlB JuL9xc1RVMa5I7fDpfGK2QRYPvMGpjQgQ8WvpP7Vc7KPAsOHTmizm8Sh5ExvoaYDzG33 Xa1hiyC9W7RP2/04BOpnvjPcepexhioUKmdS0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ZDdjv2hovhoH5WQ93pVAb4oisRaYHGnib55W77IannOyGS7J2gcKy3Cre9LeSEVK9v mcVuGf9op5RdXRj+OX+QjaTnRtDanWxb4yYNF0Lg8PNJ00awnl7NoeTtozXkWNqr+D1i IUws5tZAc8AyLv5FL+c7n/dR9j7tIh3qpEkWg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.195.20 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 05:41:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BBC32A4.1080906@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FDD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8066@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84AD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <4BBC32A4.1080906@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:41:49 -0800 Received: by 10.140.55.4 with SMTP id d4mr6791275rva.243.1270644110704; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 05:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: David Allen To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "Tim Judd \(tajudd@gmail.com\)" , Peter Steele , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:41:51 -0000 On 4/6/10, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 07/04/2010 06:28:40, Peter Steele wrote: >> I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks >> like what the auto-var process does is a construct basic directory >> structure but no data. Is there a solution to this? Can I get /var to >> be populated with the full contents of the real /var? > > Can you write a few shell scripts? You'ld need to create a tarball of > the /var contents you need on the box, and explode it onto /var at boot > time -- if you're using auto-var on MFS all the time, you'll need to set > that up to happen on every reboot. I'm probably missing something here, but I'm not sure that's correct. If the OP wants his own /var, then diskless(8) describes how /var can be automagically populated (see also /etc/rc.initdiskless). The nanobsd.sh script (designed with flash drives in mind) uses this method. I looked into adopting something similar some time back but decided on an alternative solution so I can't provide anything more than a general comment. As a side comment, I'd add I hope the OP publishes the results of his efforts to benefit others who may want to do the same. HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 13:42:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA14106566B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28298FC1A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so878795bwz.3 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:42:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PaMm1JTngrtOGwvCvhox52H8OujsgNl8ABEQJ/kmV9E=; b=MKGEHRGBfhm2z2dryZwYfZhGzJAD0gAbCq46/ELeIYm5GBOagXJok21FAeIVQVEfM6 ihlKC1f+tFGzdmgG4PLE0dYS1ZpmmJehIH+TAHwbQB3u9uULtsO6549vXs0zJGC1xnXN Y2EDZSHSQI9COiIiIVHnmzY0d0qD+eTwXJZs8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IRntNopsFxEKeo/Bz8TMeEpX8APqyqi9p3e4ukWZnLeHCKHmyVpK4ZEsylw9CuzEkn nm/lUtUwBddzw7JUK2rcpzPVFZe9NHWaOEW+SGnNY9aJJ4Lrg7sZyaCMDHsmS6OVyKQS J6PJF2eqOvJPhh/acU1/W/oviBwasTSjXP0ys= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.56.71 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:11:42 +0200 Received: by 10.204.132.214 with SMTP id c22mr9751403bkt.60.1270645903034; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: David DEMELIER To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Some multimedia keys send many keycodes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:42:25 -0000 Hi freebsd users, I'm running 8.0-STABLE on my laptop, and I have many troubles with the functions keys (brightness does not work) and some other keys like fn-key + f3 (usually XF86WWW) sends the XF86WWW keycode AND sends also the F3 code and that's a real problem since some applications use F1,2,3,...,12 keys. For exemple fn-key - f9 must sens XF86AudioMute, it does but also does the F9 key, look : FocusOut event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001, mode NotifyGrab, detail NotifyAncestor FocusIn event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001, mode NotifyUngrab, detail NotifyAncestor KeymapNotify event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x0, keys: 22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 KeyPress event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001, root 0x116, subw 0x0, time 298861, (232,-53), root:(234,285), state 0x10, keycode 75 (keysym 0xffc6, F9), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x1400001, root 0x116, subw 0x0, time 298861, (232,-53), root:(234,285), state 0x10, keycode 75 (keysym 0xffc6, F9), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False The weird thing is that fn-f11 and fn-f12 (volume up and volume down) sends only the good keycode without the F11 and F12 keycode. So for the moment I don't know if it's only a X.org problem or a problem linked to the ACPI since the fn-key is probably associated to the ACPI. However this does not happens on Linux. Cheers, -- Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 13:45:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C2F10657D1 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C36F8FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so1007150pwi.13 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.13.3 with SMTP id q3mr7118937rvi.174.1270647939870; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm8577603qyk.8.2010.04.07.06.45.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: freebsd.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 551A62286C; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:45:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:45:37 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, janos.mohacsi@bsd.hu Message-ID: <20100407094537.1a99c228@scorpio.seibercom.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: denyhost: ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:45:40 -0000 Using denyhosts-2.6_3 from the ports system, I am finding the following error message in the "/var/log/denyhosts" log file: 2010-04-07 07:45:25,818 - sync : ERROR Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/DenyHosts/sync.py", line 117, in receive_new_hosts self.__prefs.get("SYNC_DOWNLOAD_RESILIENCY")) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/xmlrpclib.py", line 1199, in __call__ return self.__send(self.__name, args) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/xmlrpclib.py", line 1489, in __request verbose=self.__verbose File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/xmlrpclib.py", line 1253, in request return self._parse_response(h.getfile(), sock) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/xmlrpclib.py", line 1392, in _parse_response return u.close() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/xmlrpclib.py", line 838, in close raise Fault(**self._stack[0]) Fault: This error message repeats anywhere from every hour to every three or four hours. I cannot seem to decipher the pattern. Is this error message something I should be worried about; and if so, how do I go about correcting it? -- Jerry FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. J. R. R. Tolkien From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 13:52:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB06106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listone@deathbeforedecaf.net) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E021C8FC1C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so1015250pwi.13 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.91.15 with SMTP id t15mr6952657rvl.119.1270648321224; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.10.10] (0x7e.net [203.122.226.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm2518370pzk.12.2010.04.07.06.51.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Rob In-Reply-To: <4BBB56E2.10801@tundraware.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:21:53 +0930 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <830D19B5-4BA6-42B9-B2D1-1833EC04252C@deathbeforedecaf.net> References: <4BBB56E2.10801@tundraware.com> To: Tim Daneliuk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Preventing Bad SMB Mount From Stalling A Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:52:02 -0000 On 07/04/2010, at 1:14 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I mount my SMB shares from /etc/fstab on a FBSD 8.x production machine = like=20 > this: >=20 > //USER@WINSERVER/SHARE /mountpoint smbfs rw 0 0 >=20 > The problem is that after an outage, "WINSERVER" doesn't come up > before the FBSD machine. So, the FBSD machine tries to boot and then > hangs permanently because it cannot get the SMB share points mounted. > This recently happened after a catastrophic power outage that cooked > the share info on "WINSERVER". Even after it came up, it was no longer > serving the proper shares and the FBSD machine could never find the > SMB shares and thus hung permanently. >=20 > The SMB mounts are not essential for systems operations. Is there a > way to tell the FBSD to try and mount SMB, but keep going and complete > the boot if it cannot? In an NFS environment, amd(8) is used to mount shares on demand instead = of on=20 boot. It doesn't directly support SMB, but it may be possible to to = combine=20 them: http://www.jiegao.co.cc/computer-notes/unix-tips/freebsd-amd-for-samba Rob.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 13:56:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C223A1065670 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B48A8FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:56:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24422 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2010 13:56:12 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Apr 2010 13:56:12 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 2E20150852; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:56:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: doug@safeport.com References: <446344g1go.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:56:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (doug@safeport.com's message of "Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:28:52 -0400 (EDT)") Message-ID: <444ojnmkn8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: csup vs cvs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:56:13 -0000 doug@safeport.com writes: > A change was MFC'd to the xorg intel driver to include support for the > new chipsets. I took the fact that I could see the change on the web: > > Date: Sun Apr 4 15:37:47 2010 > New Revision: 206164 > URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/206164 That's a subversion checkin. The web source for what's in the cvs (and therefore, shortly, cvsup) is cvsweb: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ > Log: MFC r205096, r205102 > Add AGP support for Intel Pineview and Ironlake chipsets. > > to mean that it would be propogated out to my favored csup server in > due course. The change was not on cvsup2.FreeBSD.org by 2AM Monday, so > I got a source tree from a cvs repository my unix guru runs and > updated using that. I used his because I host it. Most likely, that tree is checked out via the cvsup protocol, which means whatever server it came from had the update. So some of them did, even if cvsup2.freebsd.org didn't. When the different servers differ, you need to talk to the manager of a particular server to find out what's happening on that one. By comparing the subversion checkin time to the cvs checkin time, it looks like the delay from subversion to cvs was negligable, so most likely the delay is entirely due to cvsup2's update time. I can't tell how long that is, because I don't know what time zone your "2AM" is. > What I attempted to ask is (1) how are the mirrors updated; and (2), > is there a particular lag time where the latest changes would have to > be there? This is not normally an issue for me but I have a laptop > that will not run X w/o this change. The documentation project maintains a "hubs" article that covers the "how" part. The lag time mostly comes from the frequency with which the mirrors update; official hubs are recommended to update hourly, but it's not required. Note that you could have gotten the change from either the svn URL you posted, or from the cvs equivalent that I mentioned. Then you could have patched it onto your sources directly. For a single-file change (as the critical piece of this seems to be), that's the quick way to go. > I normally do not use cvs because, I am not a developer and my > learning new things bucket' is pretty full. Hence my [however badly > worded] question. Again thanks for bearing with me. cvs is not really *needed* for *anyone* on FreeBSD's base system these days; the project uses it as a distribution method for the source code tree, but real development is checked into subversion and (for official branches) then automatically exported into the cvs tree. The cvs tree is distributed via the cvsup protocol to the hubs, and other mirrors can pick it up from there. The cvsup protocol (whether implemented in the cvsup program or csup) is the main way these things are distributed, but rsync, anonymous cvs, FTP, and probably other methods are supported optionally (which means some mirrors offer them and others don't). -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 14:15:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6FF61065673 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E628FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 722 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2010 14:15:21 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Apr 2010 14:15:21 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1D59F50852; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:15:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Fbsd1 References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:15:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> (fbsd1@a1poweruser.com's message of "Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:13:13 +0800") Message-ID: <44zl1fl56x.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:15:26 -0000 Fbsd1 writes: > But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. By default, it does not. You have to enable the "Install into /usr and /etc/postfix" configuration option for it to do so. I don't recommend that anyone do it without a *really* good reason. Turn that option back off and you'll be fine. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 17:13:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D64106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022728FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2f2W1e00P1wpRvQ5AhDE1l; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:13:14 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2hGb1e0081f6R9u3ehGbRg; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:16:37 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:13:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:13:10 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100407171310.GA44876@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:13:14 -0000 On Wed 07 Apr 2010 at 00:24:51 PDT Fbsd1 wrote: >Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to >only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. In many configurations, /bin and /usr/bin are not in the same slice. In some cases, they're not even on the same drive. Think about scenarios where /usr fails to mount for some reason. Then look at what's in /bin compared to what's in /usr/bin, and perhaps you'll understand the logic of it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 17:25:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227821065670 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74878FC1E for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2bJG1e00E1wpRvQ5ChR6nL; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:25:06 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2hUT1e0011f6R9u3ehUTuN; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:28:28 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:25:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:25:02 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100407172502.GB44876@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407171310.GA44876@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100407171310.GA44876@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:25:06 -0000 On Wed 07 Apr 2010 at 10:13:10 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: > >Think about scenarios where /usr fails to mount for some reason. Then >look at what's in /bin compared to what's in /usr/bin, and perhaps >you'll understand the logic of it. I should add that comparing the contents of /usr/sbin and /sbin is also instructive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 17:38:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AA51065670 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2CB8FC14 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:38:54 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0I00KJLP07V230@asmtp029.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:38:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004070113 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:38:31 -0700 Message-id: <7A0DE083-98BC-4F2D-8432-9765BD4ABEA6@mac.com> References: <198091.48812.qm@web55808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: josemel esleta , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.2 on esx3.5 network issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:38:54 -0000 On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Ross Cameron wrote: > Well for a start FreeBSD 6.x is no longer supported by the community. 6.2 is no longer supported. 6.x in the form of 6.4 is supported through November 30, 2010. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 17:54:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A39D106566B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from atmail-10.bnguk.net (atmail-10.bnguk.net [80.74.253.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319728FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=melon.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-10.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NzZSQ-0007GE-9l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:54:30 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BE5DDFCA4B7; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:54:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:54:29 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100407175429.GA40696@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100321101137.GA8202@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100321101137.GA8202@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' Subject: Re: OT: dead box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:54:43 -0000 On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:11:37AM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > > Sorry if this is a bit off-topic. > > I came in the other day to find my workstation powered off. Hitting > the power on button had no effect as did using another known working > outlet. I checked all the cables and they seem attached. > > I thought my power supply must have died so I got another, screwed it > in and again no joy - no sign of life. > > Anybody got any ideas what the problem may be? I'm thinking possibly > the power on switch but that seems a long shot and there seems no easy > way to replace it. > > My hardware: > > Antec Sonata case. > Gigabyte board. > Core 2 duo > > TIA, > Apologies for responding to my own post but I thought I should relate what the problem was for the archives. I tried reseating all attachments to the MB but that didn't prove fruitful. So since I thought it was upgrade time anyway, I bought a new MB and Intel quad core to go with it aswell as a 40GB Intel SSD. I repurposed the memory from the old MB to go with the new MB. Assembled it all and it worked. The old HD was OK too. So from that I deduce that the problem was either the cpu, MB or some dodgy attachment that the new assembly bypassed. The SSD has proved it's worth. Port builds are a lot faster, launching applications such as Mutt and Firefox are near instantaneous. locate(1) and find(1) jobs are pretty near instantaneous. So my advice to anybody still using EM HDs on a workstation is to get an SSD as your next upgrade if you haven't already. I suppose I'm fortunate in that my data needs are fairly small: $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad5s1a 1982798 261090 1563086 14% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/ad5s1e 19566 22 17980 0% /tmp /dev/ad5s1f 29893284 7870578 19631244 29% /usr /dev/ad5s1d 1982798 69718 1754458 4% /var I just installed 8.0 and rsynced ~/ over. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 18:14:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347E4106566C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20558FC20 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o37IE2ga009067 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:14:01 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD - Message-ID: <20100407181401.GA87548@thought.org> References: <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <2EE33758-C39C-41DC-B6A8-B34CF6B3B25A@mac.com> <86k4sk1mle.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <66F97B7C-9D27-452B-BCC8-30C960599AE0@mac.com> <86d3yc2zib.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86A6FD8C-EF54-4B61-957E-A88A7272F7C0@mac.com> <868w902sp0.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4BBBB305.4070206@ibctech.ca> <20100407030110.GE25911@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100407030110.GE25911@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on ethic.thought.org Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:14:06 -0000 On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 09:01:10PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 06:17:41PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: > > On 2010.04.06 17:10, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > > > Now, on the other hand, emacs rules, vi sucks. :-) :-) > > > > ok, ok. I was on the side of Perl, and was content following this > > thread, but now I don't like you anymore :P > > > > heh ;) > > > > Steve > > I'm willing to let the emacs users have their emacs, and to enjoy my vi. > I guess the longer name (emacs) suits people who like pressing more > buttons to accomplish the same amount of work anyway. > besides all this, someone can use vi easily with only one hand---or just a few fingers for those of us who still hunt-and-peck. with emacs, gotta have at least 17 hands. > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 18:40:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F262106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F9E8FC20 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:40:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 35706082 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:40:17 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:40:17 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:40:16 -0500 Thread-Topic: How customized can an mfsroot be? Thread-Index: AcrWT7U+B11HNX59QBueXOLqdDrELAAKxxWg Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8720@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FDD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8066@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84AD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <4BBC32A4.1080906@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:40:19 -0000 >I'm probably missing something here, but I'm not sure that's correct. If = the OP wants his own /var, then diskless(8) describes how >/var can be automagically populated (see also /etc/rc.initdiskless). The = nanobsd.sh script (designed with flash drives in mind) uses >this method. I looked into adopting something similar some time back but = decided on an alternative solution so I can't provide anything >more than a general comment. > >As a side comment, I'd add I hope the OP publishes the results of his effo= rts to benefit others who may want to do the same. >From what I can tell, diskless talks about network booting via a PXE server= . That's a little different than what I'm doing--booting from a read-only CD-ROM. With network booting, you can create your own customized mfsroot wi= th whatever you want in /var. I could have setup a mfsroot based boot for my CD-ROM, but there are other restrictions to the mfsroot environ= ment that I wanted to avoid. In my read-only CD-ROM boot case, /var is created as a MFS device automatically and populated, but a basic di= rectory layout only is used. Nothing from the CD-ROM /var is copied into th= e MFS /var that is created. I cannot figure out how BSD can do this automagically, so I'll have to have= a duplicate copy of /var on the CD and populate it from that. What I've tr= ied that works well is when I'm about to run mkisofs to create the .iso from, I= rename my /var to /var2 and create an empty /var. When the iso is booted, a default MFS based /var is created with a specific collection of directori= es. I have a startup script that copies my /var2 contents into /var and tha= t does the trick. Thanks to all the responders on this. I think I've worked out all of the ki= nks now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 19:29:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27631065672 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C4D38FC17 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25885 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Apr 2010 19:29:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1270668585; bh=7KyBH+y13EShQaW7SPB3MfJ+41hJGLoyUM18DzmCS7U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0irDQH6mTugCNFMChGl/39y8ySDpkUJYbLffl8OWr8WU7Rw4fQw9ZF2E8xY7smO4g4hoBKGNOlMTuaEJnYwQoU87zny/kK/B0gIMVRr1X9gYRcoLHd6yDGFwmOJjwWouXV8dKwcOFY3GzVQImQs+VwKg38DmPAX/bdgMZpihXh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WJlvRYlMcJzK5W8jzkMmvLb9jMYEAa6/ay5f0BAiG5XtekruH1hE5RDKdXQ3dLHHxrZM/XSL51kM95b8wvHX5c9fToGSDYWwqtPgBjOo4BRU9lcbdrw8bgdjJZ1kG2Ek0or8yVUjYrcz4dbHU2b9qjcPKTwsL1ia5tlYf0MhgT0=; Message-ID: <326968.24627.qm@web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ykwggqgVM1lZCbq_FfcG1s4ITtx4LKomZiTQncBxXZ_MWco IDSjbQoPIIMjwX5ayIaRCiW_3OHS6xXfHIvqjX6UewyAHWEwSFFX3x1jGoQs HxZso.A0MYqbps1tYthCQ48l6vHy2X27lX9Q4JfutNIfaD10LczyfGB7uvZg fZyntPSpJnG9wWZbRpnrdhOKYtqu_KNhiquqJi.f7KFMeWHHoZKs3DPnwKAA ZEHOjLvbB12ukoVKMJQzInAuGnMHdyrkNYC8TuqImL6CzzHe_Hk.72GjdZBE 6dhBbpSj_DTmzW5WhhnFiVQ4eItK5oYIAWN_CkWGAo_LVRoV2EwQSbVJKc5b FQUtDxA7GeLlYW4fOtlCFh3uKBSyeOqMBAYYq6w-- Received: from [98.169.0.45] by web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:29:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:29:45 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: port error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:29:47 -0000 Hi all: I got problem for compiling "py-libxml2": ----------------------------------------------------- path -Wl,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so -lz /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so -lpth -lutil -lm -lpython2.6 -Wl,-soname -Wl,libxml2mod.so -o .libs/libxml2mod.so /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpth gmake[1]: *** [libxml2mod.la] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/py-libxml2/work/libxml2-2.7.6/python' gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/py-libxml2. --------------------------------------------------------------- the error seems to point the issue to python. i installed "python2.6" since some other packages require newer version of python2. how could i fix this problem? thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 19:37:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EE41065676 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8648FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:37:40 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0I0089PUIEGAA0@asmtp024.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:37:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004070143 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <326968.24627.qm@web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:37:26 -0700 Message-id: <35968463-2893-4718-9227-D749E4804BF6@mac.com> References: <326968.24627.qm@web52305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> To: gahn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: port error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:37:40 -0000 Hi-- On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:29 PM, gahn wrote: [ ... ] > the error seems to point the issue to python. i installed "python2.6" since some other packages require newer version of python2. > > how could i fix this problem? Installing /usr/ports/devel/pth is likely to be the answer. There may be a missing dependency, or there may be an issue with the options you used to build python. However, I don't see it needed here: > % pkg_info -r python26-2.6.4 > Information for python26-2.6.4: > > Depends on: > ..and pth things only these are dependencies: > % pkg_info -R pth-2.0.7 > Information for pth-2.0.7: > > Required by: > amavisd-new-2.6.4_5,1 > gnupg-2.0.14 > libassuan-1.0.5 > p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0_3 Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 20:03:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92473106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6EB8FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so1479966pwi.13 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:03:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TYykjUQAipqVFatISR8x7RPFl9x+rvjlddLeHPHsUtU=; b=cK+bWLEl7JxErPiRZC/52GWmrWXM3t41hjxYc2PNCGR8SjjymL8znGPzJs2N8Z3uGP +KL/H70q1aMDlL+g79ukoEaoGg9MbdXQ+VLfMV0BBY7td1+RTn0dXcyUCQw7ZsI3oPWU Us8Lb1saBS7T2Qxj4Pf3BQGpxbcDF45rqZ06Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Dh+D6QKjFTRx6FSLSDjrtxzMBUP81BoZ3sc5f4bhxGHxcgZm8MSn9YXAEZuZXSh37l n8QYCY8RrV8iHUKbTNzlSa+RpO/VLS5EqaloE6L0zrINpOO5hzzFZlVM29zmtPgMD1mu 7jgwISPkVcTQzgEnRdem6pBbqKBCU88ASTzT4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.131.20 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:02:59 -0600 Received: by 10.142.56.11 with SMTP id e11mr3877551wfa.211.1270670581465; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Modulok To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:03:02 -0000 List, This might be a little off topic, but it still involves FreeBSD. I figured this list has many a smart folk, so I'd ask here. If I buy two of these Ubiquiti power station 2's, I can set them up to provide a long distance ethernet link to my BSD box right? Has anyone used these? Basically, I have an remote office with a FreeBSD box acting as a router, but no Internet connection. At the other side of the valley (15 miles) I have a DSL based Internet connection, but no office. In theory, I should be able to link them via a wireless bridge, right? That way I'd have local connection at the office on one interface, and a long distance link which hooks up to an ISP through their DSL router on the other. If I treat the link between the office and the DSL router as if it were the public Internet, I shouldn't need any encryption between me and it, right? Does this all sound like a reasonable approach? I just thought I'd get a vote of confidence in my methods before I finally tackle this project and buy the equipment. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 20:37:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC28106566B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DFA8FC15 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so397628qwi.7 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:37:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.218.137 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:37:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <868w902sp0.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <86wrwkiunp.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <2EE33758-C39C-41DC-B6A8-B34CF6B3B25A@mac.com> <86k4sk1mle.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <66F97B7C-9D27-452B-BCC8-30C960599AE0@mac.com> <86d3yc2zib.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86A6FD8C-EF54-4B61-957E-A88A7272F7C0@mac.com> <868w902sp0.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:37:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ab833f7e1abd67d9 Received: by 10.229.222.76 with SMTP id if12mr3271244qcb.17.1270672638281; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:37:19 -0000 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Chuck" =3D=3D Chuck Swiger writes: > [...] > Now, on the other hand, emacs rules, vi sucks. =A0:-) :-) you got that right bud! oh, and the Perl stuff too ;-) > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 00= 95 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussi= on > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 20:46:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424A31065673 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f197.google.com (mail-pz0-f197.google.com [209.85.222.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1092D8FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk35 with SMTP id 35so100038pzk.3 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:46:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EVdZTR3GXBfNKtb014uzAM8TjIGXXl5h8ohIE/0APXE=; b=f1qJAKq1Kq4GASadCNa7G7TIeh4LnUFhwYfYihp1pYOOgGE2lWfO64g5+n5zaYiWis jtJ6utDRMeYStkiYpcAzgazXUz+rRCSI/oajhSoCOVyvv/G93WfjfDydY2kt3AjOfq6q FyvkBjpA2p+nf8dUEALlTHjk64339JHwAlPV8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ls/fNB5/tTFyywLjsQfLJ+uixWCWGFCvkbf6VOtyX0Qq38lJHxcP+Igi+MHrGpqVyV RmDLpG/qqO8CwlbdgCURXYHTNERFjWhl2LvbuBY1bYNpV/YzihbbXcK0ak8NfCSKQEXm tUG0KwMKLxjsZWofoe6ldsTtlOfsdwGNgp78E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.152.209 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:46:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84AD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FDD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8066@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84AD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:46:48 -0600 Received: by 10.143.153.9 with SMTP id f9mr4006952wfo.29.1270673209421; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Peter Steele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:46:50 -0000 On 4/6/10, Peter Steele wrote: >>What incidentally does /var get populated with? Our image has a custom >> directory under /var but this did not show up in the MFS versions of this >> directory. I can get >around this but I wonder what else might not be >> included? > > I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks like > what the auto-var process does is a construct basic directory structure but > no data. Is there a solution to this? Can I get /var to be populated with > the full contents of the real /var? > > Not that I know of, unless you use the advantages of mfs then. Full circle, bud. Now you're asking for necessities of the mfs or mfsroot systems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 21:07:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A61106566B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD928FC14 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE09263976; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:07:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id B042A2F8002; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:07:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com (wadphtcas0.waddell.com [192.168.203.229]) by emlpfilt2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D40C2F8001; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:07:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.205]) by WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com ([192.168.203.229]) with mapi; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:07:14 -0500 From: Gary Gatten To: 'Modulok' , FreeBSD Questions Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:07:13 -0500 Thread-Topic: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? Thread-Index: AcrWjXsmMBII696yQ2GiEtxHniKR+wABthPQ Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.4.7.205426 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report=' SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, RDNS_NXDOMAIN 0, RDNS_SUSP 0, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __CANPHARM_UNSUB_LINK 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __IMS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __URI_NO_WWW 0, __URI_NS ' Cc: Subject: RE: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:07:25 -0000 Is it not possible to get xDSL/Cable/BRI/WiMAX/3G/4G/whatever at the "offic= e". Depending on your wireless gear, antenna, topology, fresnel zone, spec= trum pollution, blah blah blah - this COULD work, but not likely very well.= Too many variables to know for sure. Many WISP's offer "reasonable" pack= ages as well. If they have a money back deal, or demo gear - it might be worth a shot. I= f they comply with the 802.11 standards for xmit power, frequencies, etc. -= IMHO you'll be lucky to get this working across 15 miles, even with really= sweet antenna's. G PS: Why do you have DSL with no office? Is it just hanging off the utility= pole? :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Modulok Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 3:03 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? List, This might be a little off topic, but it still involves FreeBSD. I figured this list has many a smart folk, so I'd ask here. If I buy two of these Ubiquiti power station 2's, I can set them up to provide a long distance ethernet link to my BSD box right? Has anyone used these? Basically, I have an remote office with a FreeBSD box acting as a router, but no Internet connection. At the other side of the valley (15 miles) I have a DSL based Internet connection, but no office. In theory, I should be able to link them via a wireless bridge, right? That way I'd have local connection at the office on one interface, and a long distance link which hooks up to an ISP through their DSL router on the other. If I treat the link between the office and the DSL router as if it were the public Internet, I shouldn't need any encryption between me and it, right? Does this all sound like a reasonable approach? I just thought I'd get a vote of confidence in my methods before I finally tackle this project and buy the equipment. -Modulok- _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 21:18:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E36106566B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24F88FC18 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D320263A9A; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:18:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 284323C32C; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:18:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com (advphtcas0.wradvisors.com [192.168.203.228]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFA23C2E4; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:18:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.205]) by ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com ([192.168.203.228]) with mapi; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:18:49 -0500 From: Gary Gatten To: 'Modulok' , FreeBSD Questions Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:18:48 -0500 Thread-Topic: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? Thread-Index: AcrWjXsmMBII696yQ2GiEtxHniKR+wABthPQAADEjDA= Message-ID: References: <8357_1270674463_4BBCF41F_8357_236_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B434994A6F4741@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <8357_1270674463_4BBCF41F_8357_236_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B434994A6F4741@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.4.7.210324 Cc: Subject: RE: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:18:56 -0000 PS: One of their product / antenna combo's *MAY* work. I didn't review all = details of all their products. Since this is off topic you'll likely get s= ome flames if this goes on much longer :) Good luck! G -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Gatten Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:07 PM To: 'Modulok'; FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? Is it not possible to get xDSL/Cable/BRI/WiMAX/3G/4G/whatever at the "offic= e". Depending on your wireless gear, antenna, topology, fresnel zone, spec= trum pollution, blah blah blah - this COULD work, but not likely very well.= Too many variables to know for sure. Many WISP's offer "reasonable" pack= ages as well. If they have a money back deal, or demo gear - it might be worth a shot. I= f they comply with the 802.11 standards for xmit power, frequencies, etc. -= IMHO you'll be lucky to get this working across 15 miles, even with really= sweet antenna's. G PS: Why do you have DSL with no office? Is it just hanging off the utility= pole? :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Modulok Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 3:03 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? List, This might be a little off topic, but it still involves FreeBSD. I figured this list has many a smart folk, so I'd ask here. If I buy two of these Ubiquiti power station 2's, I can set them up to provide a long distance ethernet link to my BSD box right? Has anyone used these? Basically, I have an remote office with a FreeBSD box acting as a router, but no Internet connection. At the other side of the valley (15 miles) I have a DSL based Internet connection, but no office. In theory, I should be able to link them via a wireless bridge, right? That way I'd have local connection at the office on one interface, and a long distance link which hooks up to an ISP through their DSL router on the other. If I treat the link between the office and the DSL router as if it were the public Internet, I shouldn't need any encryption between me and it, right? Does this all sound like a reasonable approach? I just thought I'd get a vote of confidence in my methods before I finally tackle this project and buy the equipment. -Modulok- _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 21:33:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6829E1065677 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:33:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9738FC22 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (ppp-93-104-95-187.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.95.187]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 224151C0871 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:33:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BBCFA3A.6010506@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:33:46 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Outdoor wireless - has anyone used Ubiquiti power stations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:33:50 -0000 On 07/04/10 22:02, Modulok wrote: > List, > > This might be a little off topic, but it still involves FreeBSD. I > figured this list has many a smart folk, so I'd ask here. > > If I buy two of these Ubiquiti power station 2's, I can set them up to > provide a long distance ethernet link to my BSD box right? Has anyone > used these? > > Basically, I have an remote office with a FreeBSD box acting as a > router, but no Internet connection. At the other side of the valley > (15 miles) I have a DSL based Internet connection, but no office. In > theory, I should be able to link them via a wireless bridge, right? > That way I'd have local connection at the office on one interface, and > a long distance link which hooks up to an ISP through their DSL router > on the other. If I treat the link between the office and the DSL > router as if it were the public Internet, I shouldn't need any > encryption between me and it, right? Does this all sound like a > reasonable approach? In theory it would work, but reallity may be something completely different. I recall there have been a lot of community initiatives back when geeks were more abundant than broadband. However, 15 miles sounds like stretching it. IIRC people were able to get around 1-5 miles on standard gear with a home made antenna and a clear line of sight. Even if you get connection over 15 miles, you might loose it on rainy or cloudy days. Wifi signals are easily absorbed by water and anything that contains water - that means leaves and other vegetation. I must add that I don't know the hardware you're looking at and I never experiented myself. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 23:06:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38C1106566C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF708FC12 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.226]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:06:36 -0700 Message-ID: <4BBD0FF3.9070706@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:06:27 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> <44zl1fl56x.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44zl1fl56x.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2010 23:06:36.0759 (UTC) FILETIME=[F937F670:01CAD6A6] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:06:41 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Fbsd1 writes: > >> But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. > > By default, it does not. You have to enable the "Install into /usr and > /etc/postfix" configuration option for it to do so. I don't recommend > that anyone do it without a *really* good reason. Turn that option back > off and you'll be fine. > > Your wrong. I installed the package of postfix and it installed it self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 23:13:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3891065673 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E1F8FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.226]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:13:58 -0700 Message-ID: <4BBD11AD.9090403@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:13:49 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan McKeown References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> <201004071215.18491.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <201004071215.18491.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2010 23:13:59.0075 (UTC) FILETIME=[00DC0730:01CAD6A8] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:13:59 -0000 Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Wednesday 07 April 2010 11:13:13 Fbsd1 wrote: >> Polytropon wrote: >>> On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:24:51 +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: >>>> Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only >>>> contain binaries installed from ports or packages. >>> No. The /usr/local subtree (LOCAL) is for local additions (ports >>> and packages), while things outside this structure usually belong >>> to the system itself; I'm excluding mounted filesystem and other >>> things here for a moment. > [snip] >> But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. > > I haven't installed postfix, but is this possibly related to the recently > (2010-03-22) added option to install postfix into the base? > > In which case the commit six days later claims to correct a problem with the > default (non-base) install. > > Jonathan > I installed the package of postfix and it installed is self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. Packages are frozen some time before the RELEASE is distributed to the public. The change you question would have never made it into the RELEASE 8.0 package. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 23:16:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669AE106566B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9FE8FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:16:54 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0J002IN4O49900@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:16:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004070191 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4BBD0FF3.9070706@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:16:52 -0700 Message-id: References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> <44zl1fl56x.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4BBD0FF3.9070706@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: Lowell Gilbert , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:16:54 -0000 On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Fbsd1 wrote: > Your wrong. I installed the package of postfix and it installed it self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. Unless you or whoever built the package changed $PREFIX: % pkg_info -Lx postfix Information for postfix-2.7.0,1: Files: /usr/local/man/man1/postalias.1.gz /usr/local/man/man1/postcat.1.gz /usr/local/man/man1/postconf.1.gz /usr/local/man/man1/postdrop.1.gz [ ... ] /usr/local/share/doc/postfix/tlsmgr.8.html /usr/local/share/doc/postfix/generic.5.html /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix ...every file is under /usr/local. Perhaps you set INST_BASE option? [ ] INST_BASE Install into /usr and /etc/postfix Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 23:41:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E0F106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:41:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAAB8FC12 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.226]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:41:44 -0700 Message-ID: <4BBD1830.5040202@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:41:36 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> <44zl1fl56x.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4BBD0FF3.9070706@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2010 23:41:44.0866 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1BF9020:01CAD6AB] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: Lowell Gilbert , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:41:45 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Fbsd1 wrote: >> Your wrong. I installed the package of postfix and it installed it self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. > > Unless you or whoever built the package changed $PREFIX: > > % pkg_info -Lx postfix > Information for postfix-2.7.0,1: > > Files: > /usr/local/man/man1/postalias.1.gz > /usr/local/man/man1/postcat.1.gz > /usr/local/man/man1/postconf.1.gz > /usr/local/man/man1/postdrop.1.gz > [ ... ] > /usr/local/share/doc/postfix/tlsmgr.8.html > /usr/local/share/doc/postfix/generic.5.html > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix > > ...every file is under /usr/local. Perhaps you set INST_BASE option? > > [ ] INST_BASE Install into /usr and /etc/postfix > > Regards, I installed the package of postfix and it installed is self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. This is now I know that. I swapped a empty drive with my live system drive. Installed the sysinstall kern developer option to get full binaries and sources. After the install I set chflags schg /dir/ and /dir/* for these dir. /bin /boot /lib /libexec /sbin /usr/bin /usr/include /usr/lib /usr/libexec /usr/sbin. This should have protected all those RELEASE base directors and all the files in then. With the dir also having schg on, no files should have been able to be added to it. I then did a ls -lo /dir > file to save copy of their content. Then I did pkg_add -r postfix-current. After which i did another ls -lo /dir > file and to my surprise i see all these new files have been added to /usr/bin. What am I to think? How else would you explain this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 23:47:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACC71065673 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6168A8FC14 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:47:18 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0J00MZK62H8S10@asmtp024.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:47:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004070196 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4BBD1830.5040202@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:47:05 -0700 Message-id: <4895FF59-8024-4D9C-A2BE-A202A98C7ECB@mac.com> References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> <44zl1fl56x.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4BBD0FF3.9070706@a1poweruser.com> <4BBD1830.5040202@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: Lowell Gilbert , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:47:18 -0000 On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Fbsd1 wrote: > I installed the package of postfix and it installed is self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. Hmm, a terrible surprise, I agree. Please ask for a refund of your purchase price from whomever sold you such a package. :-) Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 00:22:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D17106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6578FC0C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29914 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2010 00:22:05 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Apr 2010 00:22:04 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDED5083E for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C022E1CCC9; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:21:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> <44zl1fl56x.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4BBD0FF3.9070706@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:21:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4BBD0FF3.9070706@a1poweruser.com> (fbsd1@a1poweruser.com's message of "Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:06:27 +0800") Message-ID: <44ochu3iai.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 00:22:06 -0000 Fbsd1 writes: > Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Fbsd1 writes: >> >>> But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. >> >> By default, it does not. You have to enable the "Install into /usr and >> /etc/postfix" configuration option for it to do so. I don't recommend >> that anyone do it without a *really* good reason. Turn that option back >> off and you'll be fine. >> >> > Your wrong. I installed the package of postfix and it installed it > self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. Believe it or not, I checked before responding, so I'm *not* wrong. I said that the port populates into /usr/local like it should, and having it on several machines for nearly a decade now, I knew that to be the case. You then changed that to refer to a package rather than a port; I don't know where you got your packages from, but I checked the packages for 8-STABLE and for 8.0-RELEASE, and saw that they install into /usr/local as well. So it sounds like your packages didn't come from the FreeBSD project, if they are really installing anything into /usr/bin. Just as a sanity check: what, specifically, is installed into /usr/bin on your system? Most of the postfix executables go into sbin rather than bin anyway, so it's possible that something in the mailwrapper system is confusing you. If you don't have a /usr/local/sbin/postfix, but have a /usr/sbin/postfix instead, then this is not the case. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 00:34:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F334106566C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52306.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52306.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50C1F8FC0A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 44680 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Apr 2010 00:34:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1270686882; bh=S4coZspfaNfYmIajG3ER7/m1gELKIkRYfTmPAyY2cIU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GMP6cAIJS1OikNRxBPocSrpiJ03ju9lBWgKjgiAJ1V2rE3teHjpasCJrazciMSPvAu37EHjpXQhRRpKh824zBidAzSWA7OCEAO8WOTJZ/f6WDIMxYiz/ZiFHGdjSj28c4LU6E+quOcPkl5veSZtuujcU9PRDLlMJFhrgQaCFsJA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xmDBvvUds5T/7CvTsz8XAAu428OjHAiPUTBSZjK58UCuylSbSetYX/m3mRT1mdCJleqEIVDtFl6L4+5iwdQzUuSRxpl16P7eFQwPz/zSR1W+4mCWmwt94ZdBPwpCs/LIkl45uuDGg8BWJkA5VUNc1et10BB5kSPlWrByRgoAjI4=; Message-ID: <558523.44274.qm@web52306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Y0KqJkcVM1l8Z_ZY4tMzVK4e9T2T31HI4VLnE0A9UpIhHgu HqBAOnwqol8zKQkMmt.qQMTxz5qEKvG1g6sLqBqIOENldF59UxflzqiXXY7k xP4LZKnPhuBrLfPkyncsp1A11Qz3tUZeZ8wmmBHrseyjAT3Xis.eED2qvUxP WPmXY7XRh9H03DcjifwhmFsLt15O6isfoJDfKswxG.BucDOIoNxM7wS47ux3 f6CmTJKiKtSxTd6aSJIKh0.BX7kfpJKIJDwo.AvbHEtan3hRKrnc1ydMr8gO w09HRsqJo6bpvcUkrYU1s5aBW2A-- Received: from [98.169.0.45] by web52306.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:34:42 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:34:42 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: make recursion error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 00:34:43 -0000 Hi guru: trying to compile /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz and running into problems. the "make" processes kept recycling until running out of buffer: ----------------------------------------------------------------- .... .... .... make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily unavailable *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/doxygen. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/doxygen. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/jack. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/arts. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/arts. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/sdl12. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/sdl12. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/devil. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/devil. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz. ... ... ... ... ... --------------------------------------------------------- how could i fix this? thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 00:47:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7341065673 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52306.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52306.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 994118FC08 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 51125 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Apr 2010 00:47:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1270687647; bh=9AjBQq6OE5Rkh426BIh+VIZUsIZ0Aji0vWkaN9EeWoU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mTwjMyrCOKvJXXZZXkF2RjR+7e8Q2je+Ui/3bG4Nw68PfxXu/ya3z+QAo3dZ6AXG23GgzaqB7Gf6To0xUjK7gFj/ZcWvlU+zwKgo5hPbiQLDZNw6j2Co+/WRCEZOwInUdpkzx1hcEmilzeO9dQeqHSQXLlcfTeDm9DvKN3lacI0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: make recursion error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 00:47:29 -0000 Hi all:=0A=0A=0ALooks like those packages are mutually dependent:=0A=0A----= ----------------------------------------------------------------=0A=3D=3D= =3D> arts-1.5.10_4,1 depends on shared library: jack - not found=0A=3D=3D= =3D> Verifying install for jack in /usr/ports/audio/jack=0A=3D=3D=3D> = jackit-0.116.2_4 depends on executable: doxygen - not found=0A=3D=3D=3D> = Verifying install for doxygen in /usr/ports/devel/doxygen=0A=3D=3D=3D> d= oxygen-1.6.3_1 depends on executable: tmake - found=0A=3D=3D=3D> doxygen-= 1.6.3_1 depends on executable: dot - not found=0A....=0A....=0A....=0A-----= -------------------------------------------------------------=0A=0Ahow coul= d i untangle this mess?=0A=0Athanks=0A=0A=0A--- On Wed, 4/7/10, gahn wrote:=0A=0A> From: gahn =0A> Subject: mak= e recursion error=0A> To: "freebsd general questions" =0A> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 5:34 PM=0A> Hi guru:=0A> =0A= > trying to compile /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz and running=0A> into probl= ems. the "make" processes kept recycling until=0A> running out of buffer:= =0A> =0A> -----------------------------------------------------------------= =0A> ....=0A> ....=0A> ....=0A> make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: = Resource=0A> temporarily unavailable=0A> *** Error code 2=0A> Stop in /usr/= ports/devel/doxygen.=0A> *** Error code 1=0A> =0A> Stop in /usr/ports/devel= /doxygen.=0A> *** Error code 1=0A> =0A> Stop in /usr/ports/audio/jack.=0A> = *** Error code 1=0A> =0A> Stop in /usr/ports/audio/arts.=0A> *** Error code= 1=0A> =0A> Stop in /usr/ports/audio/arts.=0A> *** Error code 1=0A> =0A> St= op in /usr/ports/devel/sdl12.=0A> *** Error code 1=0A> =0A> Stop in /usr/po= rts/devel/sdl12.=0A> *** Error code 1=0A> =0A> Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/= devil.=0A> *** Error code 1=0A> =0A> Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/devil.=0A>= *** Error code 1=0A> =0A> Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz.=0A> *** Er= ror code 1=0A> =0A> Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz.=0A> ...=0A> ...= =0A> ...=0A> ...=0A> ...=0A> ----------------------------------------------= -----------=0A> =0A> how could i fix this?=0A> =0A> thanks.=0A> =0A> =0A> = =0A> =0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =0A> _______________________________________________= =0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebs= d.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail = to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 02:16:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBBC106566B for ; 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 02:16:05 -0000 --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 01:09:54PM +0100, RW wrote: > On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0600 > Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > > On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0100, RW wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 > > > Chad Perrin wrote: > > >=20 > > > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote: >=20 > > > > There are more things in heav'n and earth, Horatio, than are > > > > dreamt of by designers of eagerly evaluated prefix notation > > > > languages. > > >=20 > > > And most of them are obscure for good reasons. Just because a a > > > syntax fits into a classification scheme doesn't make it a good > > > idea. >=20 > > Shall we trade more trite sniping, or would you like to say something > > more substantive?=20 >=20 > You started it. 1. No, I used a misquote to lead into a lengthy explanation. 2. Seriously? Are you not aware of how juvenile that sounds? > > >=20 > > > Natural languages are mostly driven by spoken usage, in which people > > > firm-up half-formed ideas as they speak - this is not a good model > > > for programming languages. If you are hacking out a quick and dirty > > > script it may be convenient to type the decision after the action, > > > but it don't I think it promotes good quality software. > >=20 > > This sounds exactly like the complaints Pythonistas use to explain why > > they have a deep hatred of Perl. If that's how you feel, I'd prefer > > you stop trying to tell me how Perl should work, and just use > > something else. >=20 > I'm not, I'm expressing an opinion that this is not a feature worth > copying. Judging by your further disputations with Mr. Schwartz, I don't think I believe you. >=20 > > > Imperative languages have a natural order of decision followed by > > > action, and code is most easily readable if the syntax doesn't try > > > to subvert that. =20 > >=20 > > . . . except when the "natural order of decision" varies > > significantly, such as when comparing functions with operators. It > > gets even more confusing when both "functions" and "operators" are > > actually methods in object oriented languages with an imperative > > design, because suddenly the difference between a "function" and an > > "operator" becomes purely arbitrary. There's nothing about > > arbitrariness that suggests a "natural order". >=20 > Expression are different. When you are trying to understand thousands > of lines of code, the order of execution within an expression is fine > detail, but the flow of execution is something that needs to be > taken-in easily.=20 This doesn't change anything I said. >=20 > > It's kind of odd you rail against natural language then talk about >=20 > I'm not railing again natural languages, I just don't think they have > much relevance. It's kind of odd you rail against natural language *in this context*. I thought "in this context" was obvious. >=20 > > imperative languages having a "natural order" -- which is, presumably, > > based on the expectations of people who have been conditioned to think > > that way by their use of natural language. >=20 > No, it's conditioned by causality, and other mainstream programming > languages. > =20 > People juggle a lot of languages, being different for the sake of it > isn't very helpful. Who said anything about being different for the sake of being different? If you find it too difficult to actually respond to what I said, please refrain from responding. >=20 > > Frankly, if everybody just stuck to a purely "natural order of > > decision" approach to imperative language design, we would never even > > have developed structured programming. >=20 > I have no idea what you trying to say here. I presume it must be some > kind of straw man argument. It's not a straw man argument. Your presumption is wrong. I have no idea how what I said could not be perfectly obvious. It's pretty clear. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku9LhkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVnLgCg2azUNr5AxsDLnCm4KjfNdvww FycAnRUaPpt2Coewd48Em7C73ETE7oMr =hcOS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ibTvN161/egqYuK8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 03:25:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3B1106566C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 03:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505b.appriver.com [98.129.35.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971618FC08 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 03:25:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.45 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht03.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.45] (HELO HT03.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31793545 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 22:25:39 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by HT03.exg5.exghost.com ([10.242.228.75]) with mapi; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:25:38 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:25:36 -0500 Thread-Topic: How customized can an mfsroot be? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:25:39 -0000 >Not that I know of, unless you use the advantages of mfs then. Full circl= e, bud. Now you're asking for necessities of the mfs or mfsroot systems. I don't want to go there, and don't need to. I came up with a simple way to= populate /var from the original contents so I'm happy. The CD boots, clone= s itself onto the target system's hard drive, and then shutdown. The end re= sult is an auto-installed BSD system ready for use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 03:33:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CE6106566B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 03:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from osp@aloha.com) Received: from relay.pixi.com (relay.pixi.com [206.127.224.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140248FC14 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 03:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from leka.aloha.com (leka.aloha.com [206.127.224.85]) by relay.pixi.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o382qIZe019804 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:52:18 -1000 (HST) Received: from [66.248.53.73] (02-073.169.popsite.net [66.248.53.73]) by leka.aloha.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.12.11) with SMTP id o382qFH7019790 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:52:17 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <201004080252.o382qFH7019790@leka.aloha.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:51 -1000 From: "Gary Dunn" To: "freebsd-questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Newton Mail V/5.2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:33:37 -0000 I am setting up a router to share one Wi-Fi link between a few computers = that only support CAT-5. Like a wireless access point except wired and = wireless sides are reversed. My question is about the ipfw packet filter. = >From the handbook section on NAT, 31.9.3, I can achieve what I need with = boot loader options. Section 31.9.4 describes alternatives for building a = custom kernel. In contrast, the chapter on ipfw states several times that = NAT requires a custom kernel - 30.6.1, 30.6.2, 30.6.5.7. I want to use freebsd-update and building a custom kernel eliminates that = option. Which is correct? Do I need to build a custom kernel to use NAT? -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu osp@aloha.com http://openslate.net/ http://e9erust.blogspot.com/ Sent from a Newton 2100 via Mail V From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 03:52:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C33106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 03:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB17E8FC0A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 03:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so520993qwi.7 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:52:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GHeqAhgROB/UMmV3jwiwLZx+3TauTdLsjQFvrEPP/3g=; b=porty5Ftb6qFncGDnr5cnlPR1afdlY37QYzpg4PXdSg6Ytf71tPcezkxeHIAATiclg dA5lEO6BE4SoQ9wdKD5mS5hVonJjSmJOpNZGGqos63gBOCWWSSHhNVUTSSuKEhftV8Mb 6JqURr4pqJAaNQG0OKJmSGreO11rPCJYQEyyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Voujq7SASdFm63s+DJQkKvqeTqx6Lix/RO1zM8Z5BlnVNWDm7QtAgjAWz7oDWvpY0S FcpqLN7S+cLfmXqPP2Dw7nRZ4WZSGrHXUU5DrXIw/jwDZaJnEXw2f7WtI4vszp2kOXD5 Z+zf5m1Ga6BelWJ8xC84vzddZgoD/DYXiml0c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.147 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:52:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201004080252.o382qFH7019790@leka.aloha.com> References: <201004080252.o382qFH7019790@leka.aloha.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:52:43 -0500 Received: by 10.229.217.148 with SMTP id hm20mr15261002qcb.38.1270698763935; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Gary Dunn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:52:45 -0000 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: > I am setting up a router to share one Wi-Fi link between a few computers > that only support CAT-5. Like a wireless access point except wired and > wireless sides are reversed. My question is about the ipfw packet filter. > >From the handbook section on NAT, 31.9.3, I can achieve what I need with > boot loader options. Section 31.9.4 describes alternatives for building a > custom kernel. In contrast, the chapter on ipfw states several times that > NAT requires a custom kernel - 30.6.1, 30.6.2, 30.6.5.7. > > I want to use freebsd-update and building a custom kernel eliminates that > option. > > Which is correct? Do I need to build a custom kernel to use NAT? > You don't need to do build a custom kernel anymore, that's a relatively recent change. Another option is to use pf instead ipfw since it has built-in NAT. I'm not saying you should change as your current path has worked great for me for many years. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 04:28:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5EF1065670 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 04:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC3F8FC08 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 04:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 00:28:38 -0400 Received: from mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.54]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id QPW97243; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 00:28:29 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19389.23404.649946.265403@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 00:28:28 -0400 To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: References: <201004080252.o382qFH7019790@leka.aloha.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Gary Dunn , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 04:28:39 -0000 Adam Vande More writes: > > I am setting up a router to share one Wi-Fi link between a few computers > > that only support CAT-5. Like a wireless access point except wired and > > wireless sides are reversed. My question is about the ipfw packet filter. > > >From the handbook section on NAT, 31.9.3, I can achieve what I need with > > boot loader options. Section 31.9.4 describes alternatives for building a > > custom kernel. In contrast, the chapter on ipfw states several times that > > NAT requires a custom kernel - 30.6.1, 30.6.2, 30.6.5.7. > > > > I want to use freebsd-update and building a custom kernel eliminates that > > option. > > > > Which is correct? Do I need to build a custom kernel to use NAT? > > You don't need to do build a custom kernel anymore, that's a > relatively recent change. Another option is to use pf instead > ipfw since it has built-in NAT. I'm not saying you should change > as your current path has worked great for me for many years. If compiled into the kernel, there's a set of optional settings (VERBOSE, LOG_LINIT, DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, etc) that can be set there. If using the module, how does one set these? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 04:55:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F42106566B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 04:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586548FC13 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 04:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so534889qwi.7 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:55:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UDbl33rHMyfmvLGfRrQ0wCTuuIAhJMYw/8K46+IvSvY=; b=D2fxBHOpqX/+91cUNxsyEqWO1/jcZVK/yKBE8UwkCXqIDX5OsIDzEO3scRMxga0NV9 /sJJS/CXyJsPycVyFpnQi/sAqylFNAxpggvvXjwtWC7OzpN9FLI4x6dpOQStBvnF2Yti dFq+Xk1KvWQY+PLlnjBGBVVtAHORJg/3VrmS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WxvDAqWEY+FtU/3TlgAcEhVFJuKQmLOl/ObwWj7hhKJLwiQeNbEam1rqRB9BGLmSxR b6bra3AGsP9XYKzyZbSvx1MADBagpW8wP5/bnasSDumcQDhkAgbGRoA7Dvxv3Pd/W14J Likgsw3HviR1gBjhPbxmIexw3UWGGjALpNibM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.147 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:55:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19389.23404.649946.265403@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <201004080252.o382qFH7019790@leka.aloha.com> <19389.23404.649946.265403@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:55:07 -0500 Received: by 10.229.88.72 with SMTP id z8mr1225611qcl.3.1270702507575; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Robert Huff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gary Dunn , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 04:55:08 -0000 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > If compiled into the kernel, there's a set of optional settings > (VERBOSE, LOG_LINIT, DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, etc) that can be set there. > If using the module, how does one set these? > > Logging is compiled into the modules and there are a few sysctl's. AFAIK, everything else is the same. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 06:01:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB5F106566B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 06:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD488FC13 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 06:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-116.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.116]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB503CE17; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:01:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o3861c7O001551; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:01:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:01:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Charlie Kester Message-Id: <20100408080138.74a994aa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100407171310.GA44876@comcast.net> References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407171310.GA44876@comcast.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:01:41 -0000 Allow me an addition: On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:13:10 -0700, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Wed 07 Apr 2010 at 00:24:51 PDT Fbsd1 wrote: > >Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to > >only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. > > In many configurations, /bin and /usr/bin are not in the same slice. In > some cases, they're not even on the same drive. I think you wanted to say that they often aren't on the same partition (not slice), but it is possible to have them on different slices, as well as disks, as you mentioned. Example: /dev/ad0s1a / <- /bin, /sbin, /etc reside here /dev/ad0s1f /usr <- /usr/bin, as well as /usr/local In this example, both are on the same disk and within the same slice, but on different partitions. In case of mount trouble, / would usually be available read-only, to provide a kind of reduced maintenance mode, and /usr wouldn't be mounted at all. > Think about scenarios where /usr fails to mount for some reason. Then > look at what's in /bin compared to what's in /usr/bin, and perhaps > you'll understand the logic of it. The manpage "man hier" explains it very well. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 06:07:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C083D106566B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 06:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9B28FC18 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 06:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-74-116.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.74.116]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD673CBFC; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:07:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o3867ROC001559; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:07:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:07:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Lowell Gilbert Message-Id: <20100408080727.37b1f73b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <44ochu3iai.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> <44zl1fl56x.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4BBD0FF3.9070706@a1poweruser.com> <44ochu3iai.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:07:29 -0000 On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:21:57 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Fbsd1 writes: > > Your wrong. I installed the package of postfix and it installed it > > self into /usr/bin with out any help from me. > > Believe it or not, I checked before responding, so I'm *not* wrong. I > said that the port populates into /usr/local like it should, and having > it on several machines for nearly a decade now, I knew that to be the > case. You then changed that to refer to a package rather than a port; I > don't know where you got your packages from, but I checked the packages > for 8-STABLE and for 8.0-RELEASE, and saw that they install into > /usr/local as well. So it sounds like your packages didn't come from > the FreeBSD project, if they are really installing anything into > /usr/bin. > > Just as a sanity check: what, specifically, is installed into /usr/bin > on your system? Most of the postfix executables go into sbin rather > than bin anyway, so it's possible that something in the mailwrapper > system is confusing you. If you don't have a /usr/local/sbin/postfix, > but have a /usr/sbin/postfix instead, then this is not the case. A comfortable, maybe overcomplicated way to check what a package will install - without actually installing it - is to use the option -n for pkg_add (which obviously operates on packages, not on ports). So you could do: pkg_add -fKnrv postfix > /tmp/postfix_add.txt This even works if postfix is already installed. The options, for a short reference, are: -f = force, -K = keep, -n = no install, -r = remote and -v = verbose. You can then search for lines that address specific locations in /usr/bin rather than /usr/local/bin. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 08:11:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB789106566B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13A48FC13 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o388BPQ5094383 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 8 Apr 2010 01:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o388BPfM094382; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 01:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA04131; Thu, 8 Apr 10 01:00:30 PDT Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 00:59:49 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: psteele@maxiscale.com Message-Id: <4bbd8cf5.kM98GPFbc40Ckgzy%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7D05@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FAD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F7FDD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8066@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F84AD@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <4BBC32A4.1080906@infracaninophile.co.uk> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8720@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3B6F8720@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How customized can an mfsroot be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:11:29 -0000 Peter Steele wrote: > In my read-only CD-ROM boot case, /var is created as a MFS device > automatically and populated, but a basic directory layout only is > used. Nothing from the CD-ROM /var is copied into the MFS /var > that is created. > > I cannot figure out how BSD can do this automagically, so I'll > have to have a duplicate copy of /var on the CD and populate it > from that. What I've tried that works well is when I'm about to > run mkisofs to create the .iso from, I rename my /var to /var2 and > create an empty /var. When the iso is booted, a default MFS based > /var is created with a specific collection of directories. I have > a startup script that copies my /var2 contents into /var and that > does the trick. You might be able to reduce the iso size some by making a tarball of /var (using tar -y or tar -z) instead of keeping /var2 as a tree. Granted you would then need to have tar(1) in the iso, which may cancel out much of the savings if you would not otherwise have needed it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 08:13:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6831065670 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f175.google.com (mail-yx0-f175.google.com [209.85.210.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72638FC24 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe5 with SMTP id 5so1001879yxe.3 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 01:13:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4G5ZDGGcgtchpKQIvwEgthVIzUJFpL54s+SW+vHqhmg=; b=w5O/i7lrTMd+bZ5AsI8LWezOCWIE4xVFFfby/+CAEPcpoz1RpFtxSfpYP3apO8c8kO yjLQVD91RlCauP3Us0vuBffGGecshaog36dMPqbeHL1WiddpY5290gDJx4+QHr7mUkVI PXpTncfDhnZRDcJnZ7v3uQkY049MVa9xCqq2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iNaTU6Kj8F40vZtqQUIMzfCjzpFxE8Put25n6fQVh0XYDJ6PpLHCVdw/zTPLzGliXv 8ZuJ6VRECqTNxLi3vTrCa+uJub2xSLGlALOx9ZE6N9JMdpyq1CI62/2QpJJfIU0hsnLc m0oRuq2VmISKsJKd15bxxDAHp8PutQ2rFDJ1s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.60.197 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 01:13:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BBD0FF3.9070706@a1poweruser.com> References: <4BBC3343.8070703@a1poweruser.com> <20100407093536.cab35b04.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBC4CA9.6090807@a1poweruser.com> <44zl1fl56x.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4BBD0FF3.9070706@a1poweruser.com> From: Ross Cameron Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:13:05 +0200 Received: by 10.150.172.1 with SMTP id u1mr10870921ybe.240.1270714405150; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 01:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: To: Fbsd1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Lowell Gilbert , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: usage of /usr/bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:13:26 -0000 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Fbsd1 wrote: > Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> >> Fbsd1 writes: >> >>> But that is not true. The postfix port populates /usr/bin. >> >> By default, it does not. =C2=A0You have to enable the "Install into /usr= and >> /etc/postfix" configuration option for it to do so. =C2=A0I don't recomm= end >> that anyone do it without a *really* good reason. =C2=A0Turn that option= back >> off and you'll be fine. >> >> > Your wrong. I installed the package of postfix and it installed it self i= nto > /usr/bin with out any help from me. You're argument then is with the person who build that package as it was obviously build incorrectly. The supported manner to install postfix (at least from my understanding) is from ports and that by default installs withing the /usr/local subtree. --=20 "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 09:54:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877C5106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thavinci@thavinci.za.net) Received: from thavinci.za.net (mail.e-soul.co.za [196.211.117.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0C78FC08 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thavinci.za.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thavinci.za.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DEF9B4DD for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:39:21 +0200 (SAST) Received: by thavinci.za.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 46FEA9B4DA; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:39:21 +0200 (SAST) Received: from thavinciPC (unknown [192.168.12.110]) by thavinci.za.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDAB9B49E for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:39:21 +0200 (SAST) From: "Marcel Grandemange" To: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:39:20 +0200 Message-ID: <008a01cad6ff$5da85d40$18f917c0$@za.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcrW/1xZFEaH89FET96LGZNM/7nWgQ== Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Ax4H CqEl DeHz Df0b EQk8 EY8V FFmr G8aj HkVy Hzcz IHt+ IUBy IZo2 JY1J KWlX L0Jj; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {3BF974FC-8BA9-4C13-A99B-90F1AF084BA6}; dABoAGEAdgBpAG4AYwBpAEAAdABoAGEAdgBpAG4AYwBpAC4AegBhAC4AbgBlAHQA; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:39:18 GMT; RgByAGUAZQBCAFMARAAgADgAIABOAGUAdwAgAFUAUwBCACAAUwB0AGEAYwBrACAASQBzAHMAdQBlAHMA x-cr-puzzleid: {3BF974FC-8BA9-4C13-A99B-90F1AF084BA6} X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 8 New USB Stack Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:54:34 -0000 Good Day. I am really hopying someone can assist me here. I have a E620 Huawei PCMCIA 3G card in a PCMCIA-TO-PCI Converter in a Freebsd server for a sms server i run. Now it used to run without issues, however since the change over from 7.2 to 8.0REL it no longer works and there are no entries under /dev/cuaux and so forth. It would be MUCH appreciated if i could be rescued here! All Info In regards to this issue is available on the http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=12988 forum. It seems many devices under new freebsd simply detach themselves.. Eg.. ugen0.2: at usbus0 uipaq0: on usbus0 device_attach: uipaq0 attach returned 6 uipaq0: on usbus0 device_attach: uipaq0 attach returned 6 And ohci1: mem 0xde7ad000-0xde7adfff irq 18 at device 0.1 on cardbus0 ohci1: [ITHREAD] usbus8: reset timeout ohci1: USB init failed device_attach: ohci1 attach returned 6 Regards Marcel Grandemange From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 10:40:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA64F106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp1.comclark.com (avmxsmtp1.comclark.com [202.69.191.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702D68FC1A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:40:37 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvUWADNPvUvKRa7iPGdsb2JhbAAHmzMBAQEBNbhxhQkEgyI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,169,1270396800"; d="scan'208";a="13275177" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.174.226]) by avmxsmtp2.comclark.com with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 18:38:36 +0800 Message-ID: <4BBDB226.4080009@comclark.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:38:30 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Grandemange References: <008a01cad6ff$5da85d40$18f917c0$@za.net> In-Reply-To: <008a01cad6ff$5da85d40$18f917c0$@za.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8 New USB Stack Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:40:39 -0000 Marcel Grandemange wrote: > Good Day. > > I am really hopeing someone can assist me here. > > I have a E620 Huawei PCMCIA 3G card in a PCMCIA-TO-PCI Converter in a > Freebsd server for a sms server i run. > > Now it used to run without issues, however since the change over from 7.2 to > 8.0REL it no longer works and there are no entries under /dev/cuaux and so > forth. > > Regards > Marcel Grandemange > From the 8.0 release notes is the following http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes-detailed.html [amd64, i386] The uart(4) is now the default driver for serial port devices in favor of the sio(4) driver. Note that the device nodes have been renamed with /dev/cuauN and /dev/ttyuN. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 10:57:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F04E106566B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:57:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thavinci@thavinci.za.net) Received: from thavinci.za.net (mail.e-soul.co.za [196.211.117.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C078FC12 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:57:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thavinci.za.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thavinci.za.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEA09B4DA; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:57:38 +0200 (SAST) Received: by thavinci.za.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 91FF59B4B4; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:57:38 +0200 (SAST) Received: from thavinciPC (unknown [192.168.12.110]) by thavinci.za.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885F99B49E; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:57:38 +0200 (SAST) From: "Marcel Grandemange" To: "'Aiza'" References: <008a01cad6ff$5da85d40$18f917c0$@za.net> <4BBDB226.4080009@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4BBDB226.4080009@comclark.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:57:38 +0200 Message-ID: <00aa01cad70a$4d8e32d0$e8aa9870$@za.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcrXCB7NFskKUOjwRVyOR+W3e5UlywAAdOjA Content-Language: en-us X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD 8 New USB Stack Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:57:43 -0000 >Marcel Grandemange wrote: > Good Day. > > I am really hopeing someone can assist me here. > > I have a E620 Huawei PCMCIA 3G card in a PCMCIA-TO-PCI Converter in a > Freebsd server for a sms server i run. > > Now it used to run without issues, however since the change over from 7.2 to > 8.0REL it no longer works and there are no entries under /dev/cuaux and so > forth. > > Regards > Marcel Grandemange > >> From the 8.0 release notes is the following >>http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/relnotes-detailed.html >>[amd64, i386] The uart(4) is now the default driver for serial port >>devices in >>favor of the sio(4) driver. Note that the device nodes have been renamed >>with /dev/cuauN and /dev/ttyuN. Yes but the devices don't actually attach Eg.. ugen0.2: at usbus0 uipaq0: on usbus0 device_attach: uipaq0 attach returned 6 uipaq0: on usbus0 device_attach: uipaq0 attach returned 6 As can be seen by the "attach returned 6" And ohci1: mem 0xde7ad000-0xde7adfff irq 18 at device 0.1 on cardbus0 ohci1: [ITHREAD] usbus8: reset timeout ohci1: USB init failed device_attach: ohci1 attach returned 6 And Here again. Many devices Suffer Of this. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 11:56:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EDE106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559558FC0A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 07:56:45 -0400 Received: from mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.54]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id QPX13142; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 07:56:45 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19389.50299.915491.204279@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:56:43 -0400 To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: References: <201004080252.o382qFH7019790@leka.aloha.com> <19389.23404.649946.265403@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Gary Dunn , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:56:46 -0000 Adam Vande More writes: > > If compiled into the kernel, there's a set of optional settings > > (VERBOSE, LOG_LINIT, DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, etc) that can be set there. > > If using the module, how does one set these? > > > Logging is compiled into the modules and there are a few sysctl's. AFAIK, > everything else is the same. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html It would be nice if this were made explicit in that handvook. And the other two secotions harmonized as well. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 12:10:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2AC106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2368FC08 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 08:10:35 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id LNH77083; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 08:10:35 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19389.51130.108457.400747@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:10:34 -0400 To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: References: <201004080252.o382qFH7019790@leka.aloha.com> <19389.23404.649946.265403@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Gary Dunn , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 12:10:35 -0000 Adam Vande More writes: > > If compiled into the kernel, there's a set of optional settings > > (VERBOSE, LOG_LINIT, DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, etc) that can be set there. > > If using the module, how does one set these? > > > Logging is compiled into the modules and there are a few sysctl's. AFAIK, > everything else is the same. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html So ... double-checking I'm doing this right: 1) in /boot/loader.conf: ipfw_load="YES" ipdivert_load="YES" 2) in the kernel config: #options IPFIREWALL #firewall #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #enable logging to syslogd(8) #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #limit verbosity #options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default #options IPDIVERT #options IPFIREWALL_NAT #ipfw kernel nat support options LIBALIAS # required for NAT 3) in /etc/sysctl.conf: net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1" net.inet.ip.fw.verbose="1" net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit="100" That cover it? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 12:42:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578F0106566B; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F2B8FC08; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so226443wwb.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 05:42:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NcojN/FGkIrTNV7nUZBGVjQ7GE2HoKOl1WQnI/bNc2Y=; b=yD7uz0jiKepxRSCCWVm19p2QU2F+QZJfdftv2GX2aZMsWiAPWS0paLwpXoYkpGVDG1 QDshh6wKZY9P56wFyzBT9NOTmK0Vd4d0s2eYr8rHdh8aD5ifJ9DcE5YdPHLIVy1sSV4w 7RAMg3YzW19xoNmQghZcA60d7z9bes3oANW18= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WIsHvqHYfYEljJu2PaYjVtzvEcOqopDSgAx4VxJ+U1y0gYAu0CkqdVMqanju+7ZH3v w1HiZFx3Cq13SZwQLyl6lGSpUjnXBADsx5sDf6SaVGv2HreYPnsqhgPWJEgvxsae5/bx r2wu3BMQqdnXjnrAPWI3gROaao0JoHPVBiEa4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.168.133 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 05:42:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100407153638.6e0be5d8@it.buh.tecnik93.com> References: <20100328163828.1f34e0e7@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20100405213133.3b29591f@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20100407153638.6e0be5d8@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:42:06 -0500 Received: by 10.216.90.145 with SMTP id e17mr33250wef.106.1270730526364; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 05:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Garrett Cooper , stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 12:42:09 -0000 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:20:47 -0500 > Antonio Olivares wrote: > > =A0[ .. ] > >> =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D=3D=3D>>> This port is marked IGNORE >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D=3D=3D>>> requires the userland sources to be install= ed. Set >> SRC_BASE if it is not in /usr/src >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D=3D=3D>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove th= e >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0IGNORE line in the Makefile and try again= . >> >> =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for sysutils/fusefs-kmod failed >> =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update > > =A0[ .. ] >> What should I do in this case? > > First, please don't top post. > > Second, you don't seem to have the base sources installed and that > port, being a kernel module, needs them. > See: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > -- > IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" > =A0"Intellectual Property" is =A0 nowhere near as valuable =A0 as "Intell= ect" > FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B > Dear Ion-Mihai, I have installed cvsup, but I don't really understand the page that I was refered to =3D=3D=3D> SECURITY REPORT: This port has installed the following files which may act as network servers and may therefore pose a remote security risk to the system. /usr/local/sbin/cvsupd /usr/local/bin/cvsup /usr/local/bin/cvpasswd If there are vulnerabilities in these programs there may be a securit= y risk to the system. FreeBSD makes no guarantee about the security of ports included in the Ports Collection. Please type 'make deinstall' to deinstall the port if this is a concern. For more information, and contact details about the security status of this software, see the following webpage: http://www.cvsup.org/ =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for ezm3-1.1_2 =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_4 I have installed it using ports system, but still get same error as above. I try to use cvsup the file, I get nothing, I try to go to the port that refuses to update and make install clean and it says source not available or refused? I have used ports before and had no problems, I don't know what to do. Thank you and others who have provided help. *Sorry for top posting Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 13:20:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C1E106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3118FC13 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.72]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2xdt1e0071ZXKqc5716ruc; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:06:51 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.46.159]) by omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 31AU1e00e3S48mS3h1AVgp; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:10:30 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7AE2F9B419; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 06:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 06:06:37 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20100408130637.GA83223@icarus.home.lan> References: <20100328163828.1f34e0e7@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20100405213133.3b29591f@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20100407153638.6e0be5d8@it.buh.tecnik93.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:48:23 +0000 Cc: Garrett Cooper , stable@freebsd.org, Ion-Mihai Tetcu , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:20:06 -0000 On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 07:42:06AM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:20:47 -0500 > > Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > >  [ .. ] > > > >> ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod > >>         ===>>> This port is marked IGNORE > >>         ===>>> requires the userland sources to be installed. Set > >> SRC_BASE if it is not in /usr/src > >> > >>         ===>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the > >>                IGNORE line in the Makefile and try again. > >> > >> ===>>> Update for sysutils/fusefs-kmod failed > >> ===>>> Aborting update > > > >  [ .. ] > >> What should I do in this case? > > > > First, please don't top post. > > > > Second, you don't seem to have the base sources installed and that > > port, being a kernel module, needs them. > > See: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > > > -- > > IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" > >  "Intellectual Property" is   nowhere near as valuable   as "Intellect" > > FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B > > > > Dear Ion-Mihai, > > I have installed cvsup, but I don't really understand the page that I > was refered to > > ===> SECURITY REPORT: > This port has installed the following files which may act as network > servers and may therefore pose a remote security risk to the system. > /usr/local/sbin/cvsupd > /usr/local/bin/cvsup > /usr/local/bin/cvpasswd > > If there are vulnerabilities in these programs there may be a security > risk to the system. FreeBSD makes no guarantee about the security of > ports included in the Ports Collection. Please type 'make deinstall' > to deinstall the port if this is a concern. > > For more information, and contact details about the security > status of this software, see the following webpage: > http://www.cvsup.org/ > ===> Cleaning for ezm3-1.1_2 > ===> Cleaning for cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_4 > > I have installed it using ports system, but still get same error as > above. I try to use cvsup the file, I get nothing, I try to go to the > port that refuses to update and make install clean and it says source > not available or refused? > > I have used ports before and had no problems, I don't know what to do. > > Thank you and others who have provided help. > > *Sorry for top posting You didn't need to install cvsup from ports. csup in the base system will work just fine; it's the official replacement for cvsup. itetcu@ was pointing you to the documentation describing the procedure for using cvsup/csup. Based on the thread so far, my understanding is that you need to download the FreeBSD source repository (kernel, base system, etc.), because the port you're trying to build (which is a kernel module) requires it. There are two cvsup files associated with the source repo: /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile Which you should use depends on if you're running -RELEASE or -STABLE. The most important part in those files is the "*default release=cvs tag=XXX". Specifically the "tag=XXX" part. 8.0-RELEASE's tag is RELENG_8_0, while 8.0-STABLE's tag is RELENG_8. So which tag you use should be based on what version you wish to run. So at this point, you should: 1) pkg_delete ezm3-1.1_2 2) pkg_delete cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_4 3) csup -h -L 2 /usr/share/example/cvsup/stable-supfile or csup -h -L 2 /usr/share/example/cvsup/standard-supfile This will populate /usr/src on your system. From there, you should be able to build ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod as normal without any problem. Does this help explain things better? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 14:57:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0DF1065679 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perikillo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com (mail-gx0-f211.google.com [209.85.217.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7BB8FC14 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so1185558gxk.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:57:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qwXwQ6VcuXOW7uW1cJbntGTo1iQ/yFk95QnzAifxSUU=; b=EUWBHrqRjFxi6lZnzL1ViMN0RiWvqq9txnpzmy93uQWvxLjtWoP//xaCMnXe8HrfDW LInwqbTwmtyHFvTqbSclOI8+7kzMdA6LoKE+t/8EhVuSD2N2H1BrroRe0j/psvYcWEo8 qiSQRxCL7P2aZFdeATsVe0TJeVWXYxxWcn+Hw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hRUdTPRpy7ILiLPozTLaGoS4BcIAPBpt+ABX9guw1RSAX5PEgvXYr6PVX/IL+6o+4W zNFeUVlYB59HxdKyKn1OQ+DxuzeOvyEgFYRoxgHho2B/+2oAZE+mtoZLmIEigzTd2gLU YSSDgWC0CpQ6oAIVJbnMN3xBjH7ZAoyQUXpUU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.229.15 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:29:11 -0700 Received: by 10.150.160.16 with SMTP id i16mr281530ybe.172.1270736951969; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: perikillo To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 8: Postfix policyd-weight not working!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:57:26 -0000 Hi people. I'm working in my first spam gateway, using Postfix + policyd-weight. I have 2 jails for this, the jail-A is the mail server, where the mailboxes exist, they are on each user home directory: /home/user-1 /home/user-2 /home/user-3 ... /home/user-N This jail-A have samba+ldap=PDC, nss_ldap+pam_ldap working + dovecot+postfix working to. id test uid=10003(test) gid=513(Domain Users) groups=513(Domain Users) id root uid=0(root) gid=0(wheel) groups=0(wheel),5(operator),512(Domain Admins) I can add users without a issue using smbldap-tools. I have test dovecot+postfix and I can send emails with that jail. Now I want to setup my spam gateway, is another jail called jail-B, I have setup nss_ldap+pam_ldap to contact my PDC(jail-A) and is working: id user1 uid=10002(user1) gid=513(Domain Users) groups=513(Domain Users) id test uid=10003(test) gid=513(Domain Users) groups=513(Domain Users) Now, the part is the one is not working is postfix+ policyd-weight. Went I test with other machine in the network using telnet, for some reason once postfix accept the mail wants to send the email to the outside not internally. I have setup transport to send the email jail-A but I don't see any task doing this, check: Apr 8 07:02:01 filtro postfix/qmgr[6723]: 97002BB47C2: from=, size=409, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 8 07:02:04 filtro postfix/smtpd[6727]: connect from filtro.X.org [192.168.49.7] Apr 8 07:02:31 filtro postfix/smtp[6725]: connect to X.org[X.Y.Z.W]:25: Operation timed out Apr 8 07:02:31 filtro postfix/smtp[6725]: 97002BB47C2: to=, relay=none, delay=869, delays=839/0.03/30/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to X.org[X.Y.Z.W]:25: Operation timed out) Apr 8 07:02:45 filtro postfix/smtpd[6727]: 11699BB537C: client=X.dyndns.org [192.168.49.7] Apr 8 07:02:50 filtro postfix/cleanup[6731]: 11699BB537C: message-id=<20100408070245.11699BB537C@X.org> Apr 8 07:02:50 filtro postfix/qmgr[6723]: 11699BB537C: from=, size=399, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 8 07:02:51 filtro postfix/smtpd[6727]: disconnect from filtro.X.org [192.168.49.7] Apr 8 07:03:20 filtro postfix/smtp[6725]: connect to X.org[X.Y.Z.W]:25: Operation timed out Apr 8 07:03:20 filtro postfix/smtp[6725]: 11699BB537C: to=, relay=none, delay=45, delays=15/0/30/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to X.org[X.Y.Z.W]:25: Operation timed out) Apr 8 07:10:00 filtro postfix/sendmail[6763]: fatal: root(0): No recipient addresses found in message header X.Y.Z.W --> Public address. My postfix settings are this: alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases command_directory = /usr/local/sbin config_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix data_directory = /var/db/postfix debug_peer_level = 2 home_mailbox = Maildir/ html_directory = /usr/local/share/doc/postfix inet_interfaces = all local_destination_concurrency_limit = 2 mail_owner = postfix mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq manpage_directory = /usr/local/man mydomain = X.org myhostname = filtro.X.org myorigin = $mydomain newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix readme_directory = /usr/local/share/doc/postfix relay_domains = $transport_maps sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail setgid_group = maildrop smtpd_delay_reject = yes smtpd_helo_required = yes smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_invalid_helo_hostname, check_policy_service inet:[192.168.49.7]:12525 soft_bounce = no transport_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/transport unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 Now, my transport file is: nis.X.org smtp:[192.168.49.6] ----->jail-A Is created: transport.db Another think, in the log I don't see went is touching "policyd-weight: 12525" or this is just for the outside connections? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 15:38:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599D4106566B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wangjianjun@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DEE8FC12 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:38:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so2177446pwi.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:38:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GBi4d/fqQCqSGUxyLL+eGVIHLzmDW72JGfP0SWfMkpY=; b=o5g5NSqzChLn6NfefTk3z207BlXYQyNeSiIWy3ksDt8Pk0o8lIm6AUgbpl2gt1dog/ FgeTEx/Tu0VtsZnYwFRRmDtp2nLMNO+hR87yIRnmHkhzYc1SpqJBhO/QqTGg6zmcXmop rQelIWsYjG1A6ZcqCzNDSnwopIREbtHnU40Ac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NT7bRU/t6ZDtn5hBOmmLDo+JYoKmUGMrfNWDDitz7oQwVbURoLZUldOBD13ewCi+ir KkV5bK8hpm9iYU3mUmdB6yHYubHSHgf4wtZfV/5I7bHxL2R2oULSoqee/3aVQNhmOMk8 jpjkh16ZtKBcXKYDyVy33Q/ecbwSvuazB48Lg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.170.5 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 23:38:17 +0800 Received: by 10.142.209.8 with SMTP id h8mr219386wfg.82.1270741097622; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Jian Jun Wang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: gdm background picture missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:38:18 -0000 hi all, I am not familiar with Freebsd, I installed 8.0-release, it had been working well. I read one post that USB webcam could be used in Freebsd 8.0 so I tried to install multimedia/webcamd, multimedia/cuse4bsd-kmod from the port. It also upgraded jpeg from 7.0 to 8.0 and a lot of dependency ports. when I rebooted my pc, gdm background picture was missing, the background was in GREEN, and gimageview could not show pictures. I deinstalled jpeg8 and reinstalled jpeg7, then the gdm background picture/gimageview were good. then I tried to install multimedia/pwcview , it compiled from ports, but failed when tried to install gtk2.20 (I remember), it has upgraded some lib/ports which I had no idea of. I can not tell which ports have been upgraded while I tried to install pwcview. then reboot machine, gdm background picture was missing, all background was in GREEN. when I log in, gimageview works well, and other softwares such as firefox/putty, all were good except rox-filer, (I was using fvwm-crystal) when I opened rox-filer, all files/directories were displayed as red exclamation mark, all files/directories. when I click on it, it still worked, if I clicked on avi files, it will be open in gmplayer, that was good. 1. files/directories in rox-filer are all red exclamation mark. 2. gdm login background picture missing, all in green (the orginal picture was a green leaf) 3. in gdm login window, it also shows red-cross mark where it should be a host picture. So I think it might be that I upgraded some dependency ports/libraries or whatever by accident, but I can not tell which one. Any suggestion on steps to solve the problem? Thank you very much. Jerry. -- TNT - Today, Not Tomorrow From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 15:57:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40851106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.221.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E563B8FC20 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so1658887qyk.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:57:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Ba9zULxJGW/obhje5vKO8PkOWybjb8HtaB8h9+neMr4=; b=j76PZXbOoIGM40IxMN2zTUSPUR3yX6TE+l9NTl/cWSAnKNXzcqGSbZTBQKeV9O/foN +fgjwKRSiDpFjGftzsqccWUgMCIZ+qlBEw5ctzRpZ16U6kbMEkXR9coa/VUAaiPTpCwL r3sBIw0G3mmdqm6dK4v4iduuOqxR90/LJRa5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=nLTVfkarZv5Z3N6S63fiZ+vPAFH1e8oCa9ELRxZue7sr0ggHnqX15QzSMQHRHon5de cIUTnVbA1QDJbCyKvI1EhCK8awrjvTkpM9QqVjb+FxN5ffHXVVcAyAPdpsKcN0874JVa dk51CJHfNEjMWTQZDuSUJX+mnxyF7qp1T7E5M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.147 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:57:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19389.51130.108457.400747@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <201004080252.o382qFH7019790@leka.aloha.com> <19389.23404.649946.265403@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <19389.51130.108457.400747@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:57:04 -0500 Received: by 10.229.236.16 with SMTP id ki16mr313180qcb.68.1270742225067; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Robert Huff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gary Dunn , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:57:06 -0000 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Robert Huff wrote: > > 1) in /boot/loader.conf: > > ipfw_load="YES" > ipdivert_load="YES" > > 2) in the kernel config: > > #options IPFIREWALL #firewall > #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #enable logging to syslogd(8) > #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #limit verbosity > #options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default > #options IPDIVERT > #options IPFIREWALL_NAT #ipfw kernel nat support > options LIBALIAS # required for NAT > > 3) in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1" > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose="1" > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit="100 > That's actually a good question considering the lack of documentation. If that works then great, but one wonders what the ipfw_nat modules is for? ... looks like it's tied into libalias apparently a replacement for natd. http://wiki.freebsd.org/Libalias That seems to be a major problem with those GsoC projects, even if they get something good working there is frequently no documentation with it. Then it sits there mostly unused waiting for bitrot to set in. I don't know the structure of GsoC, but if it's possible for the mentor to *strongly* encourage documentation checkpoints(manpages, not wiki) I think these projects would be better utilized. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 16:41:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C761065670 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (mailhost.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.32.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026768FC0A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:41:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2349C901A3; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:41:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by University of Hamburg (RRZ/mailhost) Received: from mailhost.uni-hamburg.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhost.uni-hamburg.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UgLyciQbMoUy; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:41:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.178.31] (e177252157.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.177.252.157]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: fmjv004) by mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D98179031A; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:41:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BBE0723.6090608@janh.de> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:41:07 +0200 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100331 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions-list freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: AFS on FreeBSD 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:41:19 -0000 I tried to get an AFS client on my 8.0-RELEASE (or 8-STABLE) system. What is the status of AFS on FreeBSD? Neither OpenAFS nor Arla seem to be in ports. I found the freebsd-afs mailing list with many posting from 2008/Dec but nothing from 2009 or 2010. The port-freebsd list on openafs.org has nothing newer, either. http://wiki.freebsd.org/afs has instructions for Arla, but the build fails on 8.0-RELEASE. http://wiki.freebsd.org/afs-server seems to be even older. http://wiki.freebsd.org/AFS_using_OpenAFS_%2B_Arla gives me: "You are not allowed to view this page." Is there anything more current that I missed? Thanks, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 16:45:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF27106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anoop.kn@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB4D8FC17 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:45:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so2253994pwi.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:45:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qe9SJfqMyLJSfmr22nzzshzSjxQqKyaoKz/qJCOzxV4=; b=cOB1ilnXzKIAsok8F7FQU0/WPT6qUHWiMjA52UYqsKY6Enst7BHHDZNG0uc1NgdzvY EECO3wRLsgqtmPqC9RtBEM4oTxmEyN1RHtKKChSRf3iNylAUmVu+3ebREa+Nz1RpwqYm ycZ4ggiUzzz3Cw+bJfvh7C7H3G+eUpRz+I4y4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VANrrfvUFAGAzP6aQmCIPBJPm6OPuBdZmNx8h8gI8QzOJGmSGq43gI/6wnve+oFGtx zCuX4lqYFXZImOdTDXAwe15ybp9kd5uZ10k/rFDr7XSwiMkfpZMCRA2hHRUjOSUlFkKa aw3sFu18zkKPQQTEdODttsGnK9ysPaU1e5Xd4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.200.8 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:45:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9bbcef731003280503q4993e5b4ud8d874b8e9c376a9@mail.gmail.com> <9bbcef731003281038x33b8a9atc2a81d22aa26468@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:15:00 +0530 Received: by 10.142.55.11 with SMTP id d11mr289524wfa.99.1270745100375; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Anoop Kumar Narayanan To: Masoom Shaikh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: random FreeBSD panics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:45:01 -0000 On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Masoom Shaikh wro= te: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Ivan Voras wrote: >> On 28 March 2010 16:42, Masoom Shaikh wrote: >> >>> lets assume if this is h/w problem, then how can other OSes overcome >>> this ? is there a way to make FreeBSD ignore this as well, let it >>> result in reasonable performance penalty. >> >> Very probably, if only we could detect where the problem is. >> Try adding "options =A0 =A0 PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=3D128" to the kernel >> configuration file if you can, to see if you can get a less mangled >> log outout. >> > > ok, after few days of silence I am back with more questions > this time system feels little better, it is able to sustain for more > time that what 7.3-RELEASE could > > FreeBSD raptor 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Thu Apr =A01 > 01:20:45 UTC 2010 =A0 =A0 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/INSPIRON =A0amd64 > > I am using KDE4, and when OS freezes, well it freezes, means I cannot > change to tty0 and see the panic text, if any it might possibly have > spit. the stuck frozen GUI keeps staring there. So the question is how > to I capture that panic text ? unfortunately I am not getting core > files too, so there is nothing I can pick up hints > > is there some option (KDB, DDB), so that on panic system drop to debugger= ? > > Masoom Shaikh I am having the very same problem, with my AMD64 running i386 (both 7.3-REL and 8.0-REL) keeps crashing, The best part is, if I disable ACPI it crashes before it even boots up so is the case with safe-mode and single-user-mode. With ACPI it boots up but crashes after a while. I have the vmcore files on the system. Who do I contact on this regard ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 17:26:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25083106566C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FF28FC12 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:26:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 35879779; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 12:26:52 -0500 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.132]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:26:47 -0500 From: Peter Steele To: "perryh@pluto.rain.com" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:26:43 -0500 Thread-Topic: How customized can an mfsroot be? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 17:40:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A101065670 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.221.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A6E8FC15 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:40:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so1768554qyk.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:40:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rJ1SSrzgKnn9s899zKkQIdvj5wrMS50fbh21rWvMnbM=; b=KHbjtBv3UPrmGKp5XPtwBqSk4rfm7KqMMJxrC1zqc9lnCEMKVH1V2ABU2LjDL5TcfD yNtt8L3JJrr0lkPR+ma7NzpIIab96nzetfuZ83BgMHo8HwQ1ZK40jDpNQl2wnuWFWhfp Q60ipmOQxyY43P/obiseFG32Xg4KfQVnR3HYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bQs33s7tb0/5I2nvxpoUMf5b/PAIOxAS0aedm5D6zSeFLKpZRZ/qQeZA96bK8P+ANO ARGv/oTEi+CpaP5AN16sjXeaHBusQYrceVoC94kBtY7MaPqQK7IT3TQ9+kSKhUGfySW0 aIUX3v2ToM7k6MpSHUvMo53quAeE/TelRcc2E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.147 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:40:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:40:52 -0500 Received: by 10.229.228.3 with SMTP id jc3mr492702qcb.83.1270748452966; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Jian Jun Wang Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdm background picture missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:40:55 -0000 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Jian Jun Wang wrote: > Any suggestion on stepsto solve the problem? > Follow the steps in /usr/ports/UPDATING when you are updating ports. Another option would be to pkg_delete * and install everything again from ports. There are good instructions for this in the portmaster man page. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 17:46:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7441010656AA; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f184.google.com (mail-pz0-f184.google.com [209.85.222.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1748FC1A; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk14 with SMTP id 14so335879pzk.8 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:46:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DFGe+IrFgJlJlV4lFSNcAePmGnzbkZm0zWSu5elO0fU=; b=KGLuhVqjETzytaKaEm0IXxIszDwcDx0jxBk7fsTYe5FcLm1TY3p4Kcceh6x6C0+eBh gkFrkpBAMans7KGzitDqrU64d2vK6J+2BFzNusy8sMvh7xqd9Tt+XzWrtsBCmkVqSxkq YjtoNJxb3uRPM7lDXZY3dAcCLi9b+/WFApeaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DmTASIbNSbpSpnbBHqe0vUUO0yhRjPsOx0PZnQHHnV9P6pkDB35WlrtLu8oV4AnrA3 Ao2aT8nteUYsOQIxtX19clWU42ze7EeSQYhUsCOqbAQMN/S415mnSG6v05xhvQGiaQWX v0XiXyFaRyqRJmKg9dZPYL5DYDqPBx7F90Tn8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.166.18 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:46:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9bbcef731003280503q4993e5b4ud8d874b8e9c376a9@mail.gmail.com> <9bbcef731003281038x33b8a9atc2a81d22aa26468@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:46:55 +0000 Received: by 10.141.124.18 with SMTP id b18mr693793rvn.202.1270748816098; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: Anoop Kumar Narayanan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: random FreeBSD panics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:46:57 -0000 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Anoop Kumar Narayanan wrote: > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Masoom Shaikh w= rote: >> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Ivan Voras wrote: >>> On 28 March 2010 16:42, Masoom Shaikh wrote: >>> >>>> lets assume if this is h/w problem, then how can other OSes overcome >>>> this ? is there a way to make FreeBSD ignore this as well, let it >>>> result in reasonable performance penalty. >>> >>> Very probably, if only we could detect where the problem is. >>> Try adding "options =A0 =A0 PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=3D128" to the kernel >>> configuration file if you can, to see if you can get a less mangled >>> log outout. >>> >> >> ok, after few days of silence I am back with more questions >> this time system feels little better, it is able to sustain for more >> time that what 7.3-RELEASE could >> >> FreeBSD raptor 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Thu Apr =A01 >> 01:20:45 UTC 2010 =A0 =A0 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/INSPIRON =A0amd64 >> >> I am using KDE4, and when OS freezes, well it freezes, means I cannot >> change to tty0 and see the panic text, if any it might possibly have >> spit. the stuck frozen GUI keeps staring there. So the question is how >> to I capture that panic text ? unfortunately I am not getting core >> files too, so there is nothing I can pick up hints >> >> is there some option (KDB, DDB), so that on panic system drop to debugge= r ? >> >> Masoom Shaikh > > I am having the very same problem, with my AMD64 running i386 (both > 7.3-REL and 8.0-REL) keeps crashing, The best part is, if I disable > ACPI it crashes before it even boots up so is the case with safe-mode > and single-user-mode. With ACPI it boots up but crashes after a while. > I have the vmcore files on the system. Who do I contact on this regard > ? > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> > can u load that file in kgdb in get backtrace ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 19:41:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB8C106566B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grishma.kotecha@intel.com) Received: from mga09.intel.com (mga09.intel.com [134.134.136.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001378FC1E for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:41:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from orsmga002.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.21]) by orsmga102.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 12:12:18 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,172,1270450800"; d="scan'208,217";a="507529878" Received: from orsmsx603.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.22.226.49]) by orsmga002.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 12:12:33 -0700 Received: from orsmsx509.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.22.226.43]) by orsmsx603.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.22.226.49]) with mapi; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:12:39 -0700 From: "Kotecha, Grishma" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:11:15 -0700 Thread-Topic: Unicode support in Free bsd. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:41:19 -0000 Can we name files in freebsd with unicode characters? Also are unicode characters supported in file i/o system calls like open, d= llopen, fopen? i.e. can we open a file with unicode pathname? for e.g in windows CreatefileW is used for opening files with unicode pathn= ames (wide characters). If so how to activate it. Is there any kind of environment variable that we= need to set for it? Regards, Grishma From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 20:13:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55445106566B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:13:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout026.mac.com (asmtpout026.mac.com [17.148.16.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400B78FC1B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:13:01 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp026.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0K001AKQTOL480@asmtp026.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:13:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004080178 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:13:00 -0700 Message-id: <85A565CC-DB7F-421B-831B-9E1B48967173@mac.com> References: To: "Kotecha, Grishma" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unicode support in Free bsd. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:13:02 -0000 On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Kotecha, Grishma wrote: > Can we name files in freebsd with unicode characters? UFS/UFS2 supports 8-bit chars (except NULL), so UTF8 representation for Unicode filenames ought to work OK. > Also are unicode characters supported in file i/o system calls like open, dllopen, fopen? i.e. can we open a file with unicode pathname? Yes. > for e.g in windows CreatefileW is used for opening files with unicode pathnames (wide characters). You can't use USC-2 / UTF-16 widechars. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 20:22:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADAC1065672 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14FE8FC16 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o38KMkXu011371 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:22:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BBE3B16.1020300@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:22:46 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Unicode support in Free bsd. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:22:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2010 20:11:15, Kotecha, Grishma wrote: > Can we name files in freebsd with unicode characters? > Also are unicode characters supported in file i/o system calls like open, dllopen, fopen? i.e. can we open a file with unicode pathname? > for e.g in windows CreatefileW is used for opening files with unicode pathnames (wide characters). > > If so how to activate it. Is there any kind of environment variable that we need to set for it? In Unix you can create file names containing any arbitrary sequence of characters except for NULL (marks the end of a string in C) or '/' (the directory separator) All of the variants on open(2) and similar functions will accept any sequence of bytes conforming to that as a filename. The tricky bit is getting the user-interface to interpret those names as Unicode (or whatever) and show you the appropriate sequence of glyphs in whatever character set you prefer. In general you need to set various locale related environment variables plus you may need to run specialized terminal emulator software to enable means for entering non-roman characters via your keyboard. See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/l10n.html Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAku+OxUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwN0wCeO9QlEcsHkjpyaTPEeXRj+luT F18An0n1tqLRE6nD2Mrw/XKOGoWfYoxh =1s6j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 20:35:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AAA106566B for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:35:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311BB8FC13 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A20329608D5D192; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:35:33 +0100 Message-ID: <4BBE3E15.6060300@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:35:33 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091212) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jian Jun Wang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdm background picture missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:35:36 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Jian Jun Wang wrote: > >> Any suggestion on stepsto solve the problem? >> > > Follow the steps in /usr/ports/UPDATING when you are updating ports. > > Another option would be to pkg_delete * and install everything again from > ports. There are good instructions for this in the portmaster man page. > I've always had good success with ports-mgmt/portmanager #cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmanager #make install clean #rehash #cd then portmanager -s to tell you what needs upgrading, eg #portmanager -s > portmanager.status #portmanager -l -u to actually do it. See the man page for more options. I extract a list of ports that are not "CURRENT" from portmanager.status then cycle through them doing 'make config' in each ports directory so that portmanager can be left to run unattended, eg (assuming csh) #foreach i ( `cat ports_to_upgrade`) foreach? cd /usr/ports/$i foreach? make config foreach? cd foreach? end # where ports_to_upgrade contains something like converters/libiconv devel/gettext databases/mysql51-client databases/mysql51-server devel/m4 misc/help2man sysutils/tmux databases/p5-DBD-mysql51 audio/mpg123 x11/dri2proto ... Note upgrading ports can take a long time, even days if you have lots of ports and a slow machine. You can quite happily interrupt portmanager though and start it again later (but see the man page for a caveat). I haven't tested on the bump from jpeg7 to jpeg8 but mostly portmanager just works. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 20:37:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C0C1065672 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.221.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D8C8FC16 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so1940907qyk.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:37:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.218.137 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:37:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BBE3B16.1020300@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4BBE3B16.1020300@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:37:34 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 382678a1f960ea08 Received: by 10.229.97.207 with SMTP id m15mr1146860qcn.6.1270759054474; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Unicode support in Free bsd. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:37:36 -0000 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/04/2010 20:11:15, Kotecha, Grishma wrote: >> Can we name files in freebsd with unicode characters? >> Also are unicode characters supported in file i/o system calls like open= , dllopen, fopen? i.e. can we open a file with unicode pathname? >> for e.g in windows CreatefileW is used for opening files with unicode pa= thnames (wide characters). [...] > The tricky bit is getting the user-interface to interpret those names as > Unicode (or whatever) and show you the appropriate sequence of glyphs in > whatever character set you prefer. =A0In general you need to set various > locale related environment variables plus you may need to run > specialized terminal emulator software to enable means for entering > non-roman characters via your keyboard. > I find this thread interesting because I had similar problems in FBSD with UTF-8. The virtual terminals will not support multi-byte characters nor several other things. Nevertheless, if you have Gnome (and I guess KDE as well) you can configure _that_ environment quite easily to support UTF-8. Just add: gdm_lang=3D"en_US.UTF-8" or whatever other locale you want in your rc.conf and that's it. You can also customize this on a per-user basis. I haven't got the languages list to work yet in GDM, but all I needed was UTF-8 anyway. If anyone knows how to get multi-locales to work with GDM it would be awesome. I searched several threads but noone seemed to have an aswer. Anyway, hope this helps. Alejandro Imass > See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/l10n.html > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cheers, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Matthew > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7 Pri= ory Courtyard > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey =A0 =A0 Ramsgate > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Kent, CT11 9PW > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAku+OxUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwN0wCeO9QlEcsHkjpyaTPEeXRj+luT > F18An0n1tqLRE6nD2Mrw/XKOGoWfYoxh > =3D1s6j > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 20:37:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6379E106568C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC468FC0C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NzyU4-0006eT-87 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:37:52 +0200 Received: from 93-138-17-151.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.138.17.151]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:37:52 +0200 Received: from ivoras by 93-138-17-151.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:37:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:37:44 +0200 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <4BBE0723.6090608@janh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-138-17-151.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090612) In-Reply-To: <4BBE0723.6090608@janh.de> Subject: Re: AFS on FreeBSD 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:37:55 -0000 Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: > I tried to get an AFS client on my 8.0-RELEASE (or 8-STABLE) system. > > What is the status of AFS on FreeBSD? > > Neither OpenAFS nor Arla seem to be in ports. > > I found the freebsd-afs mailing list with many posting from 2008/Dec but > nothing from 2009 or 2010. The port-freebsd list on openafs.org has > nothing newer, either. > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/afs has instructions for Arla, but the build > fails on 8.0-RELEASE. > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/afs-server seems to be even older. > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AFS_using_OpenAFS_%2B_Arla gives me: "You are > not allowed to view this page." > > Is there anything more current that I missed? Try asking on freebsd-fs@ or freebsd-current@ lists. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 20:43:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02338106566C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from osp@aloha.com) Received: from relay.pixi.com (relay.pixi.com [206.127.224.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C613A8FC0C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from leka.aloha.com (leka.aloha.com [206.127.224.85]) by relay.pixi.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o38KhlnQ015443 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:43:48 -1000 (HST) Received: from [66.248.53.94] (02-094.169.popsite.net [66.248.53.94]) by leka.aloha.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.12.11) with SMTP id o38KhiFi015433 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:43:46 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <201004082043.o38KhiFi015433@leka.aloha.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:42 -1000 From: "Gary Dunn" To: "freebsd-questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Newton Mail V/5.2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:43:49 -0000 On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:10:34 -0400 Robert Huff wrote: > So ... double-checking I'm doing this right: > > 1) in /boot/loader.conf: > > ipfw_load=3D"YES" > ipdivert_load=3D"YES" yes; see NAT HB 31.9.3 > > 2) in the kernel config: IMHO, and according to Adam Vandr More, kernel options are no longer = required. > > 3) in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept=3D"1" see NAT HB 31.9.3 > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose=3D"1" > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit=3D"100" see IPFW HB 30.6.1 I would use a smaller limit such as 5. > > > That cover > it? Still need entries in /etc/rc.conf. See HB 30.9.5, 30.6.3, 30.6.5.7 I also have DHCP serving the downstream (private) network. Upstream gets = configured by dhclient. -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu osp@aloha.com http://openslate.net/ http://e9erust.blogspot.com/ Sent from a Newton 2100 via Mail V From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 20:59:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12826106566C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from osp@aloha.com) Received: from relay.pixi.com (relay.pixi.com [206.127.224.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0958FC18 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from leka.aloha.com (leka.aloha.com [206.127.224.85]) by relay.pixi.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o38Kwxqd019902 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:58:59 -1000 (HST) Received: from [66.248.53.81] (02-081.169.popsite.net [66.248.53.81]) by leka.aloha.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.12.11) with SMTP id o38KwuSI019881 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:58:57 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <201004082058.o38KwuSI019881@leka.aloha.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:57 -1000 From: "Gary Dunn" To: "freebsd-questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Newton Mail V/5.2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Does NAT require DNS (named)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:59:01 -0000 Continuing the saga of building a wireless access point, what is the best = way to provide DNS service to the dowstream network? Seems like all I need = is a simple pass-through. For that named seems like overkill. Anyone have an = /etc/named/named.conf that does that? -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu osp@aloha.com http://openslate.net/ http://e9erust.blogspot.com/ Sent from a Newton 2100 via Mail V From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 21:04:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7421065670 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:04:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878A08FC12 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:04:46 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0K00DJBT7VZH80@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:04:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004080188 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <201004082058.o38KwuSI019881@leka.aloha.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:04:43 -0700 Message-id: <96B86AF8-F505-411B-BF09-FAAAB9D72C97@mac.com> References: <201004082058.o38KwuSI019881@leka.aloha.com> To: Gary Dunn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Does NAT require DNS (named)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:04:46 -0000 On Apr 8, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: > Continuing the saga of building a wireless access point, what is the best way to provide DNS service to the dowstream network? Run a nameserver? > Seems like all I need is a simple pass-through. For that named seems like overkill. Anyone have an /etc/named/named.conf that does that? named is fine, although I was happier with it's security history in the prior millennium than I am recently. But, if you don't want to run your own nameserver, point them toward nameservers run by your upstream network provider... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 21:05:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849E51065742 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082CF8FC0C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:05:11 -0400 References: <201004082058.o38KwuSI019881@leka.aloha.com> Message-Id: From: mikel king To: "Gary Dunn" In-Reply-To: <201004082058.o38KwuSI019881@leka.aloha.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:05:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Does NAT require DNS (named)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:05:24 -0000 On Apr 8, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: > Continuing the saga of building a wireless access point, what is the > best way to provide DNS service to the dowstream network? Seems like > all I need is a simple pass-through. For that named seems like > overkill. Anyone have an /etc/named/named.conf that does that? > > > -- > Gary Dunn, Honolulu > osp@aloha.com > http://openslate.net/ > http://e9erust.blogspot.com/ > Sent from a Newton 2100 via Mail V Depends on how your internal LAN is configured. Generally if there are no internal servers then you can forgo deploying a DNS server. Simply setup your firewall IPFW or pf or whatever you are using to allow clients to go out to the net and look names up. You will likely need a dhcp server though so that your wireless clients can auto-discover the appropriate network settings, but you can elect to do that manually as well if it's your desire. Regards, Mikel King CEO, Olivent Technologies Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine skype:mikel.king http://olivent.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelking http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 21:13:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BED9106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C450B8FC08 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 17:13:09 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id QPY12746; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:13:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 17:13:09 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19390.18148.153419.394812@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:13:08 -0400 To: "Gary Dunn" In-Reply-To: <201004082043.o38KhiFi015433@leka.aloha.com> References: <201004082043.o38KhiFi015433@leka.aloha.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:13:10 -0000 > IMHO, and according to Adam Vandr More, kernel options are no > longer required. The original reason I asked was: 30.6.2 Kernel Options It is not a mandatory requirement to enable IPFW by compiling the following options into the FreeBSD kernel, unless NAT functionality is required. I do want NAT, and there is no unambiguous path in the Handbook. > Still need entries in /etc/rc.conf. See HB 30.9.5, 30.6.3, > 30.6.5.7 Once ipfw is running, I should have the rulesets covered. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 21:34:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97DE106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darek@nyi.net) Received: from m.nyi.net (m.nyi.net [66.111.12.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 830648FC19 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13421 invoked by uid 79); 8 Apr 2010 21:07:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.67.2?) (darek@nyi.net@64.147.100.14) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2010 21:07:33 -0000 Message-ID: <4BBE4530.7040208@nyi.net> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:05:52 -0400 From: Darek M User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Dunn References: <201004082058.o38KwuSI019881@leka.aloha.com> In-Reply-To: <201004082058.o38KwuSI019881@leka.aloha.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Does NAT require DNS (named)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:34:18 -0000 Gary Dunn wrote: > Continuing the saga of building a wireless access point, what is the best way to provide DNS service to the dowstream network? Seems like all I need is a simple pass-through. For that named seems like overkill. Anyone have an /etc/named/named.conf that does that? I normally run a copy of djbdns on the private IP, having private clients use that for DNS. Alternately, the private clients could just use your ISP's caching servers, which should work without any other configuration (possibly an allowance on the firewall). - Darek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 21:57:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6561065672 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noeldude@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f193.google.com (mail-yw0-f193.google.com [209.85.211.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E28C8FC0C for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh31 with SMTP id 31so77102ywh.3 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:57:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=u7CZMpJU82ii+AnwVCzhiLQ28Pl76v+W7cXVPx2eqbY=; b=v9ErFUWP5kl6OD70iq1p55PDBBfmyk8A/NP219Ffmhs7wZnuI7+ROhak9FK2Q/fcXN +QjhiqqDY7Gg9dT9bOlfxK7/TRFlbg3mNyLsIk/lakSlpIL7FbkDokhPRqCWl9o2hIOY qm63hL69DhlbpXw+iW7b5o/KuynsYSWATQkb0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FlpeNqybuOcTUlCzAjRsSnfK484RIcUOlXLGbwrbCY+aI/e4dXyHcA4TeqRLq6+B+I KJwepe7QX0aO1n+q2p1p/dgJo9957PcvhfSEUuKJIugjTgrpLyE2XPXNLIkt5McKgaX9 LRyaPpF/X8Te3LAPh1CdxJivW/bxd8OIjqENY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.124.11 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:57:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:57:12 -0500 Received: by 10.151.20.11 with SMTP id x11mr736454ybi.216.1270763832095; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Noel Jones To: perikillo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8: Postfix policyd-weight not working!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:57:13 -0000 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:29 AM, perikillo wrote: > =A0Hi people. > > =A0I'm working in my first spam gateway, using Postfix + policyd-weight. > > =A0I have 2 jails for this, the jail-A is the mail server, where the mail= boxes > exist, they are on each user home directory: > > =A0/home/user-1 > =A0/home/user-2 > =A0/home/user-3 > ... > =A0/home/user-N > > =A0This jail-A have samba+ldap=3DPDC, nss_ldap+pam_ldap working + > dovecot+postfix working to. > > =A0id test > uid=3D10003(test) gid=3D513(Domain Users) groups=3D513(Domain Users) > id root > uid=3D0(root) gid=3D0(wheel) groups=3D0(wheel),5(operator),512(Domain Adm= ins) > > =A0I can add users without a issue using smbldap-tools. > > =A0I have test dovecot+postfix and I can send emails with that jail. > > Now I want to setup my spam gateway, is another jail called jail-B, I hav= e > setup nss_ldap+pam_ldap to contact my PDC(jail-A) and is working: > > id user1 > uid=3D10002(user1) gid=3D513(Domain Users) groups=3D513(Domain Users) > id test > uid=3D10003(test) gid=3D513(Domain Users) groups=3D513(Domain Users) > > Now, the part is the one is not working is postfix+ policyd-weight. > > Went I test with other machine in the network using telnet, for some reas= on > once postfix accept the mail wants to send the email to the outside not > internally. I have setup transport to send the email jail-A but I don't s= ee > any task doing this, check: > > Apr =A08 07:02:01 filtro postfix/qmgr[6723]: 97002BB47C2: from=3D, > size=3D409, nrcpt=3D1 (queue active) > Apr =A08 07:02:04 filtro postfix/smtpd[6727]: connect from filtro.X.org > [192.168.49.7] > Apr =A08 07:02:31 filtro postfix/smtp[6725]: connect to X.org[X.Y.Z.W]:25= : > Operation timed out > Apr =A08 07:02:31 filtro postfix/smtp[6725]: 97002BB47C2: to=3D, > relay=3Dnone, delay=3D869, delays=3D839/0.03/30/0, dsn=3D4.4.1, status=3D= deferred > (connect to X.org[X.Y.Z.W]:25: Operation timed out) You say that X.org should be delivered locally. Postfix doesn't think X.org is a local domain. > Apr =A08 07:10:00 filtro postfix/sendmail[6763]: fatal: root(0): No recip= ient > addresses found in message header This appears that you've used "sendmail -t" to inject some mail, and there was no To: header. Don't rely on headers for mail routing. > > X.Y.Z.W --> Public address. > > My postfix settings are this: > > alias_maps =3D hash:/etc/aliases > command_directory =3D /usr/local/sbin > config_directory =3D /usr/local/etc/postfix > daemon_directory =3D /usr/local/libexec/postfix > data_directory =3D /var/db/postfix > debug_peer_level =3D 2 > home_mailbox =3D Maildir/ > html_directory =3D /usr/local/share/doc/postfix > inet_interfaces =3D all > local_destination_concurrency_limit =3D 2 > mail_owner =3D postfix > mailq_path =3D /usr/local/bin/mailq > manpage_directory =3D /usr/local/man > mydomain =3D X.org > myhostname =3D filtro.X.org You might want to add mydestination =3D $mydomain $myhostname localhost > myorigin =3D $mydomain > newaliases_path =3D /usr/local/bin/newaliases > queue_directory =3D /var/spool/postfix > readme_directory =3D /usr/local/share/doc/postfix > relay_domains =3D $transport_maps Bad idea. If you add a transport for eg. hotmail, you become an instant open relay. Don't reuse transport_maps this way. If mail is delivered locally on this box, relay_domains should be explicitly set empty. relay_domains =3D > sample_directory =3D /usr/local/etc/postfix > sendmail_path =3D /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > setgid_group =3D maildrop > smtpd_delay_reject =3D yes > smtpd_helo_required =3D yes > smtpd_recipient_restrictions =3D permit_mynetworks, > reject_unauth_destination, =A0 =A0 =A0reject_non_fqdn_recipient, > reject_invalid_helo_hostname, =A0 check_policy_service > inet:[192.168.49.7]:12525 > soft_bounce =3D no > transport_maps =3D hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/transport > unknown_local_recipient_reject_code =3D 550 > > Now, my transport file is: > > nis.X.org =A0 =A0smtp:[192.168.49.6] =A0----->jail-A > > Is created: =A0transport.db > > Another think, in the log I don't see went is touching "policyd-weight: > 12525" or this is just for the outside connections? Mail that's permitted by "permit_mynetworks" or submitted via the sendmail(1) interface won't trigger the policy server in your config. -- Noel Jones From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 22:29:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A99106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perikillo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com (mail-gx0-f211.google.com [209.85.217.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23838FC0A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:29:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so1398978gxk.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:29:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1eg9TDlD2sBtLaEdSrwKod4SJDsUhvJYWWELfyD5V0g=; b=LEE8rxmwlRy4g20FOA7c56faiNQl76xFDumb83BAKIwusuiWaC6ORWVD1hEthye1ta sSJDwHYBWC5y80F8pF5s5bo1is+Ig938wD1kYCszZUGqDkTZakq2GWcAF4SGdn5BZxtc eCNkK3E5DhnoWLZVvr1ZohHfrmYF2MeqZL0Fo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bKFIZvwZ1Bfp/uh1Od0JvkZ/G632CHQvd4UE8DTZTT+vHTOn9ht5BMeLX61zKK9ybK DQG40BiLN99bYBKI3IF4WkCiKYu1ppUdaR+nJMDAsu0Lctf8WWxj8MlEK+NeVEA/IShX 2GiZtxoVR55CIUDWV1CcUVK8z5LCBb8n9GtuA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.229.15 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:29:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:29:52 -0700 Received: by 10.150.235.15 with SMTP id i15mr978558ybh.80.1270765792857; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: perikillo To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8: Postfix policyd-weight not working!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:29:54 -0000 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Noel Jones wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:29 AM, perikillo wrote: > > Hi people. > > > > I'm working in my first spam gateway, using Postfix + policyd-weight. > > > > I have 2 jails for this, the jail-A is the mail server, where the > mailboxes > > exist, they are on each user home directory: > > > > /home/user-1 > > /home/user-2 > > /home/user-3 > > ... > > /home/user-N > > > > This jail-A have samba+ldap=PDC, nss_ldap+pam_ldap working + > > dovecot+postfix working to. > > > > id test > > uid=10003(test) gid=513(Domain Users) groups=513(Domain Users) > > id root > > uid=0(root) gid=0(wheel) groups=0(wheel),5(operator),512(Domain Admins) > > > > I can add users without a issue using smbldap-tools. > > > > I have test dovecot+postfix and I can send emails with that jail. > > > > Now I want to setup my spam gateway, is another jail called jail-B, I > have > > setup nss_ldap+pam_ldap to contact my PDC(jail-A) and is working: > > > > id user1 > > uid=10002(user1) gid=513(Domain Users) groups=513(Domain Users) > > id test > > uid=10003(test) gid=513(Domain Users) groups=513(Domain Users) > > > > Now, the part is the one is not working is postfix+ policyd-weight. > > > > Went I test with other machine in the network using telnet, for some > reason > > once postfix accept the mail wants to send the email to the outside not > > internally. I have setup transport to send the email jail-A but I don't > see > > any task doing this, check: > > > > Apr 8 07:02:01 filtro postfix/qmgr[6723]: 97002BB47C2: from= >, > > size=409, nrcpt=1 (queue active) > > Apr 8 07:02:04 filtro postfix/smtpd[6727]: connect from filtro.X.org > > [192.168.49.7] > > Apr 8 07:02:31 filtro postfix/smtp[6725]: connect to X.org[X.Y.Z.W]:25: > > Operation timed out > > Apr 8 07:02:31 filtro postfix/smtp[6725]: 97002BB47C2: to= >, > > relay=none, delay=869, delays=839/0.03/30/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred > > (connect to X.org[X.Y.Z.W]:25: Operation timed out) > > You say that X.org should be delivered locally. Postfix doesn't think > X.org is a local domain. > > > Apr 8 07:10:00 filtro postfix/sendmail[6763]: fatal: root(0): No > recipient > > addresses found in message header > > This appears that you've used "sendmail -t" to inject some mail, and > there was no To: header. > Don't rely on headers for mail routing. > > > > > > X.Y.Z.W --> Public address. > > > > My postfix settings are this: > > > > alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases > > command_directory = /usr/local/sbin > > config_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix > > daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix > > data_directory = /var/db/postfix > > debug_peer_level = 2 > > home_mailbox = Maildir/ > > html_directory = /usr/local/share/doc/postfix > > inet_interfaces = all > > local_destination_concurrency_limit = 2 > > mail_owner = postfix > > mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq > > manpage_directory = /usr/local/man > > mydomain = X.org > > myhostname = filtro.X.org > > You might want to add > mydestination = $mydomain $myhostname localhost > > > > myorigin = $mydomain > > newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases > > queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix > > readme_directory = /usr/local/share/doc/postfix > > relay_domains = $transport_maps > > Bad idea. If you add a transport for eg. hotmail, you become an > instant open relay. Don't reuse transport_maps this way. > > If mail is delivered locally on this box, relay_domains should be > explicitly set empty. > relay_domains = > > > > sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix > > sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > setgid_group = maildrop > > smtpd_delay_reject = yes > > smtpd_helo_required = yes > > smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, > > reject_unauth_destination, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, > > reject_invalid_helo_hostname, check_policy_service > > inet:[192.168.49.7]:12525 > > soft_bounce = no > > transport_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/transport > > unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 > > > > Now, my transport file is: > > > > nis.X.org smtp:[192.168.49.6] ----->jail-A > > > > Is created: transport.db > > > > Another think, in the log I don't see went is touching "policyd-weight: > > 12525" or this is just for the outside connections? > > Mail that's permitted by "permit_mynetworks" or submitted via the > sendmail(1) interface won't trigger the policy server in your config. > > Thanks Noel for your quick answer, just would like to inform u that this is a spam server not a email server, once this server accept the email, he need to send it to the real mail server, is other machine in the network(other jail). This is why I'm using the transport stuff, if exist a more secure way please let me know, spam server + email server exist in the same network(jails). The test was made with telnet, about the sendmail, I don't know went I setup something about sendmail, I just have been working with postfix. Thanks again!!! > -- Noel Jones > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 22:38:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FE9106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 171D08FC1D for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14275 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2010 22:38:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2010 22:38:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=UUg5PVxQEzP5HHCXy7HvggPb7qvuYtVFwfZPH7CNANc40mLdFzY8zyNSPy5/XN1Htw/yFlfYnejX0e6pR2N9te6Adsrumj/FoRhwcirvyo2Oe7St1yC98mRkrHTmAECC; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O00MZ-0006M7-Qs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:38:16 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBE5ACB.3010601@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:38:03 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFC5C8D394975F6E19A9D242C" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Adding a Disk and Changing Mountpoints X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:38:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFC5C8D394975F6E19A9D242C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saturday I'll be adding a second 40GB and a tertiary 6GB disk to the system (in favor of adding a CD-RW to a system that already has a DVD super multi-format drive). I'd like to rearrange my mount points a bit. Here is my current fstab. # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad0s1e /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1f /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1d /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /mnt/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 Specifically I would like to move /usr/home to the 40GB drive and possibly move /var to the 6GB drive (depending on how the drive behaves). I know it should be as easy as moving the relevant directories to the new drives once the file systems have been finalized. I'm just curious as to any issues I might need to be on the watch for (obviously I'll be editing fstab before moving the directories, then issuing the mount command as appropriate). I'm doing this move specifically for space issues. My current drive (40GB) is nearly full (I only have 2.5GB left on /usr). I wish I wouldn't have deleted this mornings reports so I can give a run down on specifically how much is left everywhere, but it's getting pretty full. Once I've moved /var and /usr/home to their own disks, how can I reclaim what has already been allocated for them? Or will that happen automatically? Any specific concerns about that? Or would gparted and not fdisk be my friend here? By the way, the above is the default configuration for my system. I did nothing to modify the default values calculated when I did the install (I also plan on attacking my problem with jpeg that day too, running ldd left me with a 40+KB file to sort through). --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enigFC5C8D394975F6E19A9D242C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLvlrRAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW08D0H/338o1By/5EH7D4QcRqrE+49 TOHrNQLecj8mCebaLPuOAV8E2SYw/yNYiFsQ7lpOeUaeQeaJ9yuI5HuB7obesNzj /8VvYsoswqgaV4/8/FddvogcOhB21kMz23jqH692WrEG+n+PfJA86SsHlhYS+rCW WQniHfxtCWlT70n5VpLD7dglBLij4zrXta9as86tTVXIPeLxQDAutdwaeMaF++4l EQQR3JrdwDUdnpY/9Dpo146ENtGM3+I2blcFf4ZMri39tOxJCNfSh8Kz05on6L5H 9UQj5Fy6pHSBwEKshkKuORPXCtL5WKnVIFw1demhLv8xuAMLAKLFwYaVtv2BHi4= =eGgA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFC5C8D394975F6E19A9D242C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 22:59:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F605106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yury.michurin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF95F8FC08 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so609883wwb.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:59:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XN6/Yvyz2ASHkmwXKMq6qic1Moi9HdcU2gJIB28Hkso=; b=XFPq/kPoLb/YJlZ8vm+Jk/XtH3p9ZA27PZrCE/E1jjozpq6gCYKueHBF+e/m78c9xB fRfVJfkncMb+BqV1PG2uVET9DE7On/sgCnEADCGA4o4sCyu6RSFGmQ/8Y3Iu1rq0iEWE AEFfYKkAzBW7ioPyzW0XXxHZ0LPsjhmogeaNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ta31a5d0Jqsd+jgCT2EcJ/3K5Xtu40yX9f9v5VOrPGbxupR4WXdFVxzv32rSF+lTLc HqjVx/Uxv6b1ccPPorY4u1oZl5RARLscYVr6fhliHSVfHDhHv15sX930Q2Xbj7CE++4y fx6LgjWcWR246GVdveFOQ//Bpe/ZYqkc7ZmlQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.78 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:59:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4BBE3B16.1020300@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 01:59:22 +0300 Received: by 10.216.87.134 with SMTP id y6mr415703wee.20.1270767562646; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Yury Michurin To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Unicode support in Free bsd. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:59:24 -0000 UTF8 works grate here in irssi and tcsh over putty, same goes for filenames. Had no problem with it what so ever, just needed to set in .cshrc: setenv LC_CTYPE he_IL.UTF-8 never checked any X applications though. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Matthew Seaman > wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 08/04/2010 20:11:15, Kotecha, Grishma wrote: > >> Can we name files in freebsd with unicode characters? > >> Also are unicode characters supported in file i/o system calls like > open, dllopen, fopen? i.e. can we open a file with unicode pathname? > >> for e.g in windows CreatefileW is used for opening files with unicode > pathnames (wide characters). > [...] > > The tricky bit is getting the user-interface to interpret those names as > > Unicode (or whatever) and show you the appropriate sequence of glyphs in > > whatever character set you prefer. In general you need to set various > > locale related environment variables plus you may need to run > > specialized terminal emulator software to enable means for entering > > non-roman characters via your keyboard. > > > > I find this thread interesting because I had similar problems in FBSD > with UTF-8. The virtual terminals will not support multi-byte > characters nor several other things. Nevertheless, if you have Gnome > (and I guess KDE as well) you can configure _that_ environment quite > easily to support UTF-8. > > Just add: > > gdm_lang="en_US.UTF-8" > > or whatever other locale you want in your rc.conf and that's it. You > can also customize this on a per-user basis. I haven't got the > languages list to work yet in GDM, but all I needed was UTF-8 anyway. > If anyone knows how to get multi-locales to work with GDM it would be > awesome. I searched several threads but noone seemed to have an aswer. > > Anyway, hope this helps. > > Alejandro Imass > > > > > > See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/l10n.html > > > > Cheers, > > > > Matthew > > > > - -- > > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > > Flat 3 > > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > > Kent, CT11 9PW > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAku+OxUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwN0wCeO9QlEcsHkjpyaTPEeXRj+luT > > F18An0n1tqLRE6nD2Mrw/XKOGoWfYoxh > > =1s6j > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 23:47:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A3B106564A for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 23:47:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doverosx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D028FC12 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 23:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so630772wwb.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:47:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PP+1uRDrn3rWRndhq5x1/ddg9rLu5e6XOidwLPao/3U=; b=nldf4zuDso4lhm/7jibbLSWrXr0YXaZHq7TbAVhtQranDt5uXrXd9gqr37UjZBI0vh UyeQw7LcYUhru47N6ngoqxskzwX/TCjLxZjObtjlIevHOcfqk2DB9RFTAM1nc2vG7hU4 qOdhc03txSBWrivbKM85IwjASxjMc66hud/S4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ju57Hs/dcAQkuOk9tBpAgQKQihklh1h/uO48xfbkMzJfz6ABgUESZwVX4K+8OpobGK L2BN8OQuy/i0X+RZTdEq1q3UgxB32//WsQPQEwOgKVmkGjnEGtqmEq5E+wjY8V7yWgyB OLTjV5086roLCQ1j90D2c4IaThthd1TahbBVc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.51.205 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:21:59 -0400 Received: by 10.216.90.141 with SMTP id e13mr418122wef.166.1270768919630; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Brodey Dover To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: FreeBSD 8 using VERY LITTLE memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:47:24 -0000 Hello all, First post to this list! I have an older PII machine that I upgraded from 192MB of ram to 672MB of RAM (512, 32, 128) and upon boot the system's BIOS recognizes all 672MB RAM, FreeBSD also recognizes the 672MB RAM but decides to be nice and cool by using 17MB RAM...bwah? Here is the output from the dmesg lines. FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (348.21-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff /**** MEMORY STUFF ****/ real memory = 704905216 (672 MB) avail memory = 18116608 (17 MB) <=== why? is it a sysctl? /**** MEMORY STUFF ****/ kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 29f00000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0xf808-0xf80b on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: on hostb0 there are no other errors that I can find. Thanks in advance, Brodey Dover From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 00:06:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F802106564A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBCE8FC14 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyi11 with SMTP id 11so35450wyi.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:06:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lpLPV6vWOnJD8Exmi5wOUNnRDGqRCEDjDMpv6gkWs3Y=; b=andpoRknZijiX+stuvHM3uzQU8CooKVWirCowij7cvGaLhmTJl4krvuVwCi1lM54MF ROwMoAjU5P0dK+nascxJAd65mxQi6W0ynLP+6MYWtgZUz76MoHx7Le0Nm1z3cw1wd4QD o0oTTxzzxTCpcR+ajY225P8UX77ofEcRFWFQ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZFa4wU19l4YEhiuyDd4hM1Y8tezNfzxKsGllOUWGFl7Dn6wFSINqus5ElqamXhErLJ 7TK9ZqOigRixrmqMv3QxJejD0lhpLez0Qfl6WU3hW+5l65RFWNnsz+u50v7BtSKW+12a iSB++7ax6q4KFeJMBJYADdVOfMqhY9qIRXEGk= Received: by 10.216.154.206 with SMTP id h56mr281574wek.94.1270771607909; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm56862gve.3.2010.04.08.17.06.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 01:06:43 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100409010643.3ec118cb@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100408011505.GA30243@guilt.hydra> References: <20100404163353.GA15198@guilt.hydra> <20100404201442.b456044e.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BB9A5ED.3040309@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100405173632.739a0c42@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100406015544.GA21119@guilt.hydra> <20100406132049.641b9edf@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100407030717.GA26298@guilt.hydra> <20100407130954.4fd56215@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100408011505.GA30243@guilt.hydra> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:06:49 -0000 On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:15:05 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 01:09:54PM +0100, RW wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0600 > > Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 01:20:49PM +0100, RW wrote: > > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:55:44 -0600 > > > > Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0100, RW wrote: > > > > > > > There are more things in heav'n and earth, Horatio, than are > > > > > dreamt of by designers of eagerly evaluated prefix notation > > > > > languages. > > > > > > > > And most of them are obscure for good reasons. Just because a a > > > > syntax fits into a classification scheme doesn't make it a good > > > > idea. > > > > > Shall we trade more trite sniping, or would you like to say > > > something more substantive? > > > > You started it. > > 1. No, I used a misquote to lead into a lengthy explanation. > You started with a patronising misquote implying ignorance of wider context. > > I'm not, I'm expressing an opinion that this is not a feature worth > > copying. > > Judging by your further disputations with Mr. Schwartz, I don't think > I believe you. I can live with that. If I don't think it worth copying, I'm not going to like it in perl. That's not the same as telling you what you should and shouldn't do. I don't use perl or python all that much, and I wasn't aware of quite how religious an issue this is. I thought I was commenting on a perl feature, but it appears to have been interpreted as an attack on your faith. > > > Frankly, if everybody just stuck to a purely "natural order of > > > decision" approach to imperative language design, we would never > > > even have developed structured programming. > > > > I have no idea what you trying to say here. I presume it must be > > some kind of straw man argument. > > It's not a straw man argument. Your presumption is wrong. Then your comment is simply noise. Most structured languages get by without the feature I'm referring to, and I've made it clear I'm not talking about ordering in any other context. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 00:34:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BB4106564A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:34:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from osp@aloha.com) Received: from relay.pixi.com (relay.pixi.com [206.127.224.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B998FC12 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from leka.aloha.com (leka.aloha.com [206.127.224.85]) by relay.pixi.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o390Y4h6016876 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:34:04 -1000 (HST) Received: from [66.248.53.74] (02-074.169.popsite.net [66.248.53.74]) by leka.aloha.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.12.11) with SMTP id o390Y0on016839 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:34:02 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <201004090034.o390Y0on016839@leka.aloha.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:32 -1000 From: "Gary Dunn" To: "freebsd-questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Newton Mail V/5.2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Does NAT require DNS (named)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:34:05 -0000 On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:05:12 -0400 mikel king wrote: > On Apr 8, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: > >> Continuing the saga of building a wireless access point, what is the >> best way to provide DNS service to the dowstream network? Seems like >> all I need is a simple pass-through. For that named seems like >> overkill. Anyone have an /etc/named/named.conf that does that? > > > Depends on how your internal LAN is configured. Generally if there are > no internal servers then you can forgo deploying a DNS server. Simply > setup your firewall IPFW or pf or whatever you are using to allow > clients to go out to the net and look names up. You will likely need a > dhcp server though so that your wireless clients can auto-discover the > appropriate network settings, but you can elect to do that manually as > well if it's your > desire. I failed to mention that the same FreeBSD box will provide file and printer = services via Samba, all clients will be Windows Vista, and there will bo no = other servers on the downstream network. I cannot rely on clients editing = their LMHOSTS files ... I need plug and play. Do I need a DNS server on the = downstream network for Windows clients to connect to Samba? -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu osp@aloha.com http://openslate.net/ http://e9erust.blogspot.com/ Sent from a Newton 2100 via Mail V From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 00:56:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDA4106566B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A4B8FC1D for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:56:10 -0400 References: <201004090034.o390Y0on016839@leka.aloha.com> Message-Id: From: mikel king To: "Gary Dunn" In-Reply-To: <201004090034.o390Y0on016839@leka.aloha.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:56:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Does NAT require DNS (named)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:56:33 -0000 On Apr 8, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:05:12 -0400 mikel king > wrote: > >> On Apr 8, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: >> >>> Continuing the saga of building a wireless access point, what is the >>> best way to provide DNS service to the dowstream network? Seems like >>> all I need is a simple pass-through. For that named seems like >>> overkill. Anyone have an /etc/named/named.conf that does that? >> >> >> Depends on how your internal LAN is configured. Generally if there >> are >> no internal servers then you can forgo deploying a DNS server. Simply >> setup your firewall IPFW or pf or whatever you are using to allow >> clients to go out to the net and look names up. You will likely >> need a >> dhcp server though so that your wireless clients can auto-discover >> the >> appropriate network settings, but you can elect to do that manually >> as >> well if it's your >> desire. > > I failed to mention that the same FreeBSD box will provide file and > printer services via Samba, all clients will be Windows Vista, and > there will bo no other servers on the downstream network. I cannot > rely on clients editing their LMHOSTS files ... I need plug and > play. Do I need a DNS server on the downstream network for Windows > clients to connect to Samba? > -- > Gary Dunn, Honolulu > osp@aloha.com > http://openslate.net/ > http://e9erust.blogspot.com/ > Sent from a Newton 2100 via Mail V Gary, Thanks for the clarification. In this case if it were my network then I would roll out both DNS and DHCP on this server. Honestly it will make your life a hell of a lot easier in the long run, especially if you intend on using WINS resolution for the Windows client via samba. However only allow the DNS and DHCP services to run on the internal LAN, bind them to an internal IP address. You should be fine. Cheers, Mikel King From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 01:29:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71A11065672 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 01:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B82A8FC12 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 01:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so711467bwz.3 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:29:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3os//S1ozh+B0YpOsq929BZkGn//GfzFY8bZ8jWSgI4=; b=HDiu5IqU2XzKEYnswmFprM7WvUhDCysV+PCkKgJmMmB/P3VwWOwt71atJt98u3cwjK rBuEGjfXsw17FDTEelOf9cj7zp0hGMFmiKkjCrH3sl16YxrfpDKefMePJgBQCEEMq7S9 kOvTDzrVvPqUSvRl2zmgZlcz63pr/LiapzpDs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=uaP3rbHGX/xrbuPmqssTwzf/TonqP8U9bweqTYXpPCMH9CB/xmXPuDmozM52k0ORhK M1Dc9dEZvfAEHUWg0Dvs+pLbilwrUu1ZTIivORUpkFKEiqjCWlNJR/2tm903n5sVr5IM RDdq1sBZlvhmExNH13WivZ2hatMaskp4s11Q0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.102.7 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:29:40 +0300 Received: by 10.204.157.17 with SMTP id z17mr1089188bkw.25.1270776580131; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: bandwidth throttling? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:29:41 -0000 Hello folks I have a 8.0 system that has 2 IPs: ifconfig em1 em1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=19b ether 00:25:90:01:32:93 inet 192.168.1.126 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet 192.168.1.127 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active The .126 is used by the host for various obvious things and I have a jail on the same machine running off the .127 IP. Is there a quick and easy way to have the jail host throttle bandwidth usage of everything going to and out of the .127 jail? I don't really need anything fancy, I just want to set hard limits for the entire jail globally, like "don't use more than 500KB/s downstream and more than 150KB/s upstream". What would be the best way around doing this? My understanding is that to do this with PF, I would need ALTQ meaning I have to use a custom kernel and that IPFW with dummynet should have similar functionality but should also work with GENERIC? Thanks! - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 01:33:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207141065675 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 01:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doverosx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D068FC1B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 01:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so387437fxm.3 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:33:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=F/GfSezzPOeJkT2z4P1dAgy2x2gozwDTPMrjf0pAjGY=; b=ieqQHAMiU8SvKhkOOKlU7SEgNEt6zWw0PrkJbDADe3Jo9dWmshchKTWn6+K3jTV/gd pC6Grri58RC9qfPdyGgV1RGpKDGiqgZHZCat366ihBWaOfZgu94IGgPUGQqrFnjDjpO8 0RnmjfXVPnG9syly5dtpnN3X2yzfrr/I6aa1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KT3zUKrQJAHwmr/qbm+MOPyCYEAZ2evoltybyGS5QUj+N/+6C4u4/Es9Q7tnrZp4iA d9JmYmskbnnHxOHWQHbPcqoHnJgBSCHOuIpBCMe32rV4UUr9LuBbneX4cPKt734vBrbo p4oGHjeuEAteZdoaJEMKq0QytMrPjlrJh3w9Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.119.20 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:33:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201004090034.o390Y0on016839@leka.aloha.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:33:50 -0400 Received: by 10.223.63.76 with SMTP id a12mr957059fai.10.1270776830386; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Brodey Dover To: mikel king Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Gary Dunn , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Does NAT require DNS (named)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:33:52 -0000 Unfortunately, still 17MB. I am going to play around with the sticks of RAM that I have installed to see if there is a chipset/motherboard issue. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:56 PM, mikel king wrote: > > On Apr 8, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: > >> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:05:12 -0400 mikel king >> wrote: >> >>> On Apr 8, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: >>> >>>> Continuing the saga of building a wireless access point, what is the >>>> best way to provide DNS service to the dowstream network? Seems like >>>> all I need is a simple pass-through. For that named seems like >>>> overkill. Anyone have an /etc/named/named.conf that does that? >>> >>> >>> Depends on how your internal LAN is configured. Generally if there are >>> no internal servers then you can forgo deploying a DNS server. Simply >>> setup your firewall IPFW or pf or whatever you are using to allow >>> clients to go out to the net and look names up. You will likely need a >>> dhcp server though so that your wireless clients can auto-discover the >>> appropriate network settings, but you can elect to do that manually as >>> well if it's your >>> desire. >> >> I failed to mention that the same FreeBSD box will provide file and >> printer services via Samba, all clients will be Windows Vista, and there >> will bo no other servers on the downstream network. I cannot rely on cli= ents >> editing their LMHOSTS files ... I need plug and play. Do I need a DNS se= rver >> on the downstream network for Windows clients to connect to Samba? >> -- >> Gary Dunn, Honolulu >> osp@aloha.com >> http://openslate.net/ >> http://e9erust.blogspot.com/ >> Sent from a Newton 2100 via Mail V > > Gary, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Thanks for the clarification. In this case if it were my n= etwork then > I would roll out both DNS and DHCP on this server. Honestly it will make > your life a hell of a lot easier in the long run, especially if you inten= d > on using WINS resolution for the Windows client via samba. However only > allow the DNS and DHCP services to run on the internal LAN, bind them to = an > internal IP address. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0You should be fine. > > Cheers, > Mikel King > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 01:47:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC4A106564A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 01:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doverosx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8F68FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 01:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so391863fxm.3 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:47:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uYaelCN2Ozk73x8XT2H3op8ozJR4QGdlQ0OYNBJfvI8=; b=avtyrt9F7sMfCuohqyOM+MIhjp2c7dYy8qX/Xin1a4VGzHSel1SI4rSGx+3tv4U0gj sVlEPKfCr51ev1rilt8OplpGS7H5EQkWCma3+glA7WA0j2L1EoD727+xy/RjgIX7TKhW fkn8nICfVsS27v7Yn7Vz49EyJSc0MVefrN73Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kapZcJL2emapDEwyI7W+n56d/ojXH1xtgh56gMpflMOD+7VbamokmZIvwnF9rM/wz1 VUsK/U6uv1kEgm4tDp+UbLeDI7cIPuUPNnTUxam3El1ncxAUdGti4DT90MNAHeUXIAu0 PLf2/r4GfBB250/I0497K2go1PJggpdoNvT5Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.119.20 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:47:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:47:28 -0400 Received: by 10.223.101.80 with SMTP id b16mr949580fao.25.1270777648106; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Brodey Dover To: Gary Gatten , freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8 using VERY LITTLE memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:47:30 -0000 Fixed. The 440BX is not friendly to 512MB SDR sticks. Works like a charm with 3x256MB'ers! Thank you, Brodey Dover On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Brodey Dover wrote: > I was under the impression that the =A0avail memory was memory that was > released from BIOS. > > Top indicates about 17MB is for RAM and using swap when all you're > doing is syncing a GEOM mirror with two 80GB drives is illogical and a > new behaviour that I haven't seen. I will reboot again, check my BIOS > options (I haven't changed anything...honest) and try other booting > options; and finally, I'll post back. > > Regards, > Brodey Dover > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: >> Doesn't that mean it's using ~ 655MB, and only 17MB is left? =A0What doe= s top say? =A0I'm building a kernel now so can't compare with mine. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-question= s@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Brodey Dover >> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:22 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: FreeBSD 8 using VERY LITTLE memory >> >> Hello all, >> >> First post to this list! I have an older PII machine that I upgraded >> from 192MB of ram to 672MB of RAM (512, 32, 128) and upon boot the >> system's BIOS recognizes all 672MB RAM, FreeBSD also recognizes the >> 672MB RAM but decides to be nice and cool by using 17MB RAM...bwah? >> >> Here is the output from the dmesg lines. >> >> FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 >> =A0 =A0root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 >> CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (348.21-MHz 686-class CPU) >> =A0Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" =A0Id =3D 0x652 =A0Stepping =3D 2 >> =A0Features=3D0x183f9ff >> /**** MEMORY STUFF ****/ >> real memory =A0=3D 704905216 (672 MB) >> avail memory =3D 18116608 (17 MB) <=3D=3D=3D why? is it a sysctl? >> /**** MEMORY STUFF ****/ >> kbd1 at kbdmux0 >> acpi0: on motherboard >> acpi0: [ITHREAD] >> acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed >> acpi0: reservation of 100000, 29f00000 (3) failed >> Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 >> acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0xf808-0xf80b on acpi0 >> pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 >> pci0: on pcib0 >> agp0: on hostb0 >> >> there are no other errors that I can find. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Brodey Dover >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 02:15:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE851065674 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1820A8FC14 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26502 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2010 02:15:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 02:15:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=Scryw+m+7A6htHgig2DuN5R2ldrAHg87UcoeHpqPN7MA57lxTDEg57o0uCqsErGvMqGZ6gE+zeLlfI0Yw7OkR64ZRk1tXC3Ruox3hXqGy+jsJs9l6hFIcrLtp3VbkYQL; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O03kk-0006Bc-Uv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:15:27 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:15:13 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8B09313C18B7261C57C4737A" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:15:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8B09313C18B7261C57C4737A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have acquired a pair of Compaq USB /powered/ speakers. On my parents XP machine they don't seem to cause any problems, but when I hook it up to listen on my FreeBSD box I have absolutely nothing but problems with the speakers (even when turned off but still plugged in) interrupting the normal operation of my keyboard (basically it seems that power is cut to my keyboard at random). I have a beefy power supply (650W) so I really shouldn't be having any power distribution issues. I've tried the speakers in both the on-board USB ports and the USB expansion card (PCI) with the same results. Any ideas? --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig8B09313C18B7261C57C4737A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLvo24AAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0NO4H/ikwbHNMMphWPPFptJ2yCEsZ qUoYrw4oYrs14rCeal5+tlapCMFiJFwfQeRQocG7faYlQBJQfiHzpHHGr1ZyeZ4t 0xB6GLzSv5ToI7l3eaLLLTtyFjTxKEVhWTLKSI4a43AZMUyb0tGYmO3L8/aEWEfs SSQEL/x4lDxj5f3hAKgyy6Bp8vZfJu4m2wZIrFV6UPyywdG0GTJ8CpLewkcfDosK Kp8C7g1L8STIUgmY8d9WSsvRBNBYYfY5BOUEV+ae53ath4bANE91S903PQF1/MYi MShgrkn2nkihd+oVXyoT0eIwNVw8gaRnyvcV4kz1MY4s901BM+xj/uiFccq2KYo= =gI2t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8B09313C18B7261C57C4737A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 02:34:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DA31065670 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:34:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC7B8FC13 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so679651wwb.13 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:34:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rFL48OywwG0HMQ/+DOQvFL/wVE9XIGB60oOtOSOblZo=; b=d8YNz1vQLBffYXlqXNw/KRu0Bjo0mk6WFyVLdPY4gTSy4eAmb20a/4IwOD96zr+e+Q 3CzMQjiXBK3x4coUgfKABuEwm8aZGUjXSgDa/F92ROKAz/LI44XUCh8IhSWX7+2MmYDH 7cTsWbRJ5kNGTP8wbMvP0naSgDMVQFFXhekdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=NL76AI1AsAo/NpR2H/xvgnoqEjEOZZC4LI3CR0Gd4ljYhb0R6DRXtWh8g1bJr0Uf+U 5ctCikGjHTNIOo8X5GLyZoZNOWNIbjYlh0mv4Vt9RSAYeHPFxyk8TSIgrAFPRM1ONNOX IlWAAKrs/x1kMlQTxZM19JP9oqB0LPVBLWJ/s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.168.133 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:34:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:34:36 -0500 Received: by 10.216.89.200 with SMTP id c50mr497737wef.164.1270780476042; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Programmer In Training Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:34:37 -0000 On 4/8/10, Programmer In Training wrote: > I have acquired a pair of Compaq USB /powered/ speakers. On my parents > XP machine they don't seem to cause any problems, but when I hook it up > to listen on my FreeBSD box I have absolutely nothing but problems with > the speakers (even when turned off but still plugged in) interrupting > the normal operation of my keyboard (basically it seems that power is > cut to my keyboard at random). I have a beefy power supply (650W) so I > really shouldn't be having any power distribution issues. > > I've tried the speakers in both the on-board USB ports and the USB > expansion card (PCI) with the same results. > > Any ideas? > -- > Yours In Christ, > > PIT > Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. > Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org > Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. > > Is your keyboard a usb keyboard? Could be a permissions problem? see 4.3.8. USB ports on FreeBSD http://www.gphoto.org/doc/manual/permissions-usb.html Hope this helps in some way. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 02:42:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1BD106566B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84EE28FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26828 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2010 02:42:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 02:42:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=D79qAp06h0kJ/vja/az5s7NAFatbAHWVNic0HL7deINzNkMWOIyoDMJZE5ESK/8nJlupuDVIbTqXCEhfZt9WfV7U6JgIfm59VefXDmKJ2KR0vJ6Ej8DT4glhSzFUPrS8; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O04Ai-0006q9-Kv; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:42:17 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBE93E0.20207@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:41:36 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brodey Dover , FreeBSD Questions References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBB33C8DBE0035F4BCD9B48E7" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Cc: Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:42:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBB33C8DBE0035F4BCD9B48E7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/08/10 21:29, Brodey Dover wrote: > I believe a call to iostat (there is something similar) you should see > a large amount of interrupts to your USB keyboard driver, at least > that is my assumption. That is my assumption, too. > Unfortunately, I do not have USB powered speakers for me to test with. > That said, the way FreeBSD does sound is similar to Linux and even > Windows... though as you will see Windows does hacky stuff to make > poorly designed hardware work. The sound goes through the sound card, just the power plug is a USB cable and not an adapter. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enigBB33C8DBE0035F4BCD9B48E7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLvpP0AAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0XKkH+wUjWBMJRVXWZg8GyoVuHqwA d/wWMwapxpp46BYO7TysRdOaXEpSVWFTM2Im8Jc++cA2ldUqqT/9qx3xRsFWZniq Gw2ABYZ25fwDwQyG+vCGAjVmC5gpCA1IxT3sQu8qHTKNm+ZWGvP3e35UEOpSu3DF z3Vu9H6Dyb+ApBWD8oVz2QwYyOnBKhlgrtUZK6IwSr4EcfvQNRQU9+izK0a4CnsF TzCCz15amfn5Xy0+rk/JqtyBgTga5jO/iTC22Lxb6limpFb71L7aSP2qVZTlcceI oBd/chBDnc8Neku2vXNdgIT1fHJ8wz31cg3e7a0yesWduv/qWoGHQs7nL1hLTbo= =Tsxq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBB33C8DBE0035F4BCD9B48E7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 02:44:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942FF1065670 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C5C78FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28915 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2010 02:44:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 02:44:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=oq8RRRaQ+HHav2ec8ZwhW0Kwy/FqAI4xO35gI9CrYJ6HcKU14RijVWZcnbAMHeopsXdiBDW58PKrImgj24ZY7DBQ1Jwp8JpLigbXz6PBqxvlq6jqCZK4SHHsniEeswLI; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O04CU-0007ZW-H2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:44:06 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:44:00 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig193FD2B61A098C937E7C1DE1" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:44:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig193FD2B61A098C937E7C1DE1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/08/10 21:34, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Is your keyboard a usb keyboard? Sorry, yes. > Could be a permissions problem? I don't know what could be the problem. I have a USB mouse, keyboard, and web cam all plugged into the same USB PCI card and I've not had any problems until I plugged in the speakers. > see 4.3.8. USB ports on FreeBSD >=20 > http://www.gphoto.org/doc/manual/permissions-usb.html >=20 > Hope this helps in some way. It's given me a place to look, at least, though it's a lot of technical information that is hurting my eyes just to look at, hehe. (: --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig193FD2B61A098C937E7C1DE1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLvpRxAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0u/8IAJuFhBXPpqv93xAQmepjNqcH v19f4yPaOqmy+wWfL1KqnN6amQC3sRuX3FdVsC47g6vpr3F46JXz6bxBAI19unN7 fqXgj17PdlpH32ZxiTvssmRKv6vVYpzqykpdRr7WmAf/YVNUk+lgGdzwqETKbCif GKzaj/exO7J6OTDkceVFyYPzYmNuHYBdxC37MoqJPuZlSipRcIOM+ewwRNp8bFpg OTlxB9GC8YRKknriIN/CmWAiBO4hcPkisBrsu08cBNSNz+wyxuiKc9DBlEqOvlMO 7lUW/qJWxoyE2PbUTl54xgvPhFv7iEyXP+32w2Cp+xlreOAse7eM7WXnn9wnryc= =gFOF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig193FD2B61A098C937E7C1DE1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 05:06:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798CA1065670 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 05:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 455AF8FC19 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 05:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21787 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2010 05:06:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 05:06:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=RE3ppXj0gKKQZPj0L1RBeYMH0arLXy41DVYeXz0C9+v4TlGDPSKc34G8vPgyzzjVq3IrZCwlmpEPl7gY1606az9U9vH5+Z1OS3mM1/d4hw2S1yEkA3wG6DNyE2e96JHp; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O06Py-0006vk-63 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:06:10 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:06:04 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2C57BFFB424BEF91F88EB2C8" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:06:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2C57BFFB424BEF91F88EB2C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/08/10 23:23, Brodey Dover wrote: > Now that I think about it and have more context as to how things are > working. lshal output could be useful here as well. >=20 > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Brodey Dover wrot= e: >> Can you provide some dmesg output please? http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/stuff/dmesg.out (64KB) http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/stuff/lshal.out (80KB) I couldn't find nothing in it referring to the speakers. Again, they are only attached for power purposes (I didn't buy the speakers, they came with a computer I bought from a friend). I don't see why they'd have any sort of id attached to them. Full info from the back of the speakers: FLC Presario Speaker System Input power: DC 5V 500mA Also, that link for gphoto on FreeBSD 8 didn't have anything useful to my situation. It dealt exclusively with digital cameras. I didn't see anything that would apply to my situation, thanks for the link though as I do have a digicam I eventually want to be able to pull pictures off of from my computer instead of my parents. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig2C57BFFB424BEF91F88EB2C8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLvrW8AAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0MUIH+wQ8h2CBCzzGXCCpK7x2wadS 7RgxfaQM81wgL4u5Q2miGjiwcGLBuC1vZIiNTONlhL3zk/kIfQ0e159qX5/JSi43 2viwws68cB1ZOOxi5QM7SSCrEspjzpfpbisI3IQJXEGGPAl2oSEeXelVIFNr9256 oQqSKqDx+DFlSovnbUgfmpJH88YSJ9+ejztSfS0+iLnQNFjCr1ctskeb4+99d481 SBSFfxoyrB4sPDXD1B2fDEjPBUdsODBbuq9duP5M9evg50sDhDiwD95kA51j43+w tbJ2eK24CAhteQDg4dczloBQpLmVLAfU1E2rL7KvywGFaGmAXaw+Q5+x7GJqDIw= =BxP5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2C57BFFB424BEF91F88EB2C8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 05:48:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF882106566B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 05:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775568FC13 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 05:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.218]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7567B1D8FD; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:48:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o395m3qX001614; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:48:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:48:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Programmer In Training Message-Id: <20100409074803.10a4edde.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4BBE5ACB.3010601@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> References: <4BBE5ACB.3010601@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Adding a Disk and Changing Mountpoints X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:48:07 -0000 On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:38:03 -0500, Programmer In Training wrote: > Saturday I'll be adding a second 40GB and a tertiary 6GB disk to the > system (in favor of adding a CD-RW to a system that already has a DVD > super multi-format drive). I'd like to rearrange my mount points a bit. Here we go. :-) > Specifically I would like to move /usr/home to the 40GB drive and > possibly move /var to the 6GB drive (depending on how the drive > behaves). I know it should be as easy as moving the relevant directories > to the new drives once the file systems have been finalized. I'm just > curious as to any issues I might need to be on the watch for (obviously > I'll be editing fstab before moving the directories, then issuing the > mount command as appropriate). I'd suggest to use dump + restore to move the partitions' contents partition-wise; this makes sure that file permissions and all other stuff that may be important is copied 1:1. Let's assume this is the point you're starting from: /dev/ad0s1a / /dev/ad0s1b swap /dev/ad0s1d /var /dev/ad0s1e /tmp /dev/ad0s1f /usr <--- includes /usr/home You'll add other disks, let them be /dev/ad1 /dev/ad2 And create one slice and one partitions on each of them. (It's possible to omit creating the slice, and just creating a partition on the "pure" disk covering the whole disk, this is called a dedicated partition, and that's why other systems may be unable to access it.) But let's just say you're selecting the "maximum compatibility mode" and create slice /dev/ad1s1, and one partition /dev/ad1s1e slice /dev/ad2s1, and one partition /dev/ad2s1e You then want to make /dev/ad1s1e the new /var, and /dev/ad2s1e the new /home. Important: To make sure that noting "unwanted" may happen, do everything in single user mode: Boot the system into SUM (boot -s), then do: # fsck /var /usr # mount /dev/ad1s1e /var # cd /var # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1d | restore -r -f - # cd / # umount /var Now you have transfered the content of old /var on /dev/ad0s1e to new /var on /dev/ad1s1e. The idea of using dump + restore implies that you want an exact 1:1 copy partition-wise. You can't do the same with /usr/home, because it's not on its own partition, but it's a subtree. For copying it, you can use cp -R or tar. Because you won't need the symlink /home@ -> usr/home in the future, delete it now, and create a "real" mountpoint for the new /home partition (on its own disk). # cd / # rm home <- deletes the symlink # mkdir home <- creates a real directory # mount -o ro /dev/ad0s1f /usr # mount -o ro /dev/ad2s1e /home # cd /usr/home # cp -R * /home # umount /home Now as you have transfered everything to the new locations, adjust /etc/fstab accordingly. Make sure that / is rw. # mount -o rw / Then edit /etc/fstab using your preferred editor, e. g. # ee /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# # --------- ---------- ------ ------- ----- ----- /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad0s1d /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1e /scratch ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1f /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad2s1e /home ufs rw 2 2 ... your other entries here... [Esc][Enter][Enter] Now reboot the system. If - really AFTER if you have stated that everything is in place as inteded, delete the /usr/home subtree and the content of /scratch (which was /var). > I'm doing this move specifically for space issues. My current drive > (40GB) is nearly full (I only have 2.5GB left on /usr). I wish I > wouldn't have deleted this mornings reports so I can give a run down on > specifically how much is left everywhere, but it's getting pretty full. You can use "df -h" as well as the "du -h " utility to find out more about the current occupation of disks or directory subtrees. > Once I've moved /var and /usr/home to their own disks, how can I reclaim > what has already been allocated for them? If you delete the content from a partition, you'll end up with an empty partition. You can give it another mount point and use it, for example, as /scratch partition. > Or will that happen > automatically? No. Nothing of such a big impact will happen automatically. > Any specific concerns about that? Or would gparted and > not fdisk be my friend here? I'd suggest using the "sade" program. In order to re-arrange partitions, it's the common method to delete existing partitions and creating new ones. This assumes that you make backups first, then "resize" the partitions, and finally load your backup. Allow me a final about your /etc/fstab. You presented this entry: /dev/acd0 /mnt/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 According to "man hier", /mnt is not the place to mount the CD / DVD: /mnt/ empty directory commonly used by system administrators as a temporary mount point Instead, in the past, using /cdrom was suggested: /cdrom/ default mount point for CD-ROM drives (created by sysinstall(8)) But will all the new magic of HAL & stuff, I'm not sure this is still working (okay, I already know in order to mount things using HAL, they should not be in /etc/fstab at all). I know that a "new" approach is to use /media with corresponding mountpints: /media/ contains subdirectories to be used as mount points for remov- able media such as CDs, USB drives, and floppy disks This would be represented as /dev/acd0 /media/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 in your /etc/fstab file. On my home system, I have many of such entriesm like /media/cdrom, /media/card, /media/stick, /media/pd, /media/floppy and so on. In the past, mount points usually resided at / level (such as /cdrom, /floppy), but that seems not to be the case anymore. Media that will be exported via NFS usually will be mounted somewhere under /export - a Solarism... Solaris-ism... just by the way. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 07:17:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2880106564A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC91A8FC15 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.226]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:17:44 -0700 Message-ID: <4BBED494.3040606@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:17:40 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Olivares References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2010 07:17:45.0215 (UTC) FILETIME=[C03340F0:01CAD7B4] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Programmer In Training Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:17:44 -0000 Antonio Olivares wrote: > On 4/8/10, Programmer In Training wrote: >> I have acquired a pair of Compaq USB /powered/ speakers. On my parents >> XP machine they don't seem to cause any problems, but when I hook it up >> to listen on my FreeBSD box I have absolutely nothing but problems with >> the speakers (even when turned off but still plugged in) interrupting >> the normal operation of my keyboard (basically it seems that power is >> cut to my keyboard at random). I have a beefy power supply (650W) so I >> really shouldn't be having any power distribution issues. >> >> I've tried the speakers in both the on-board USB ports and the USB >> expansion card (PCI) with the same results. >> >> Any ideas? You really need to explain in detail the problem. Without these new speakers plugged in does wall powered speakers work? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 08:11:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402B6106566B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 08:11:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C148FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 08:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o398B38S069654 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 01:11:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o398B3jM069653 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 01:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA07753; Fri, 9 Apr 10 00:52:13 PDT Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:51:29 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 08:11:06 -0000 Programmer In Training wrote: > ... they are only attached for power purposes ... > Input power: DC 5V 500mA Any chance these speakers need a USB 2.0 port, and all the ports on your FreeBSD box are 1.x? I don't remember the USB power spec offhand, but 2.5W may exceed what a USB 1.x port can supply -- a limit that applies regardless of the system's overall power provisioning. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 09:51:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8A4106566B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8E38FC19 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o399pfjt091719; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:51:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:51:41 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <20100408234803.7519B1065770@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100409160704.K52200@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100408234803.7519B1065770@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Adam Vande More , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 09:51:44 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 305, Issue 9, Message: 1 On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:10:34 -0400 Robert Huff wrote: > Adam Vande More writes: > > > > If compiled into the kernel, there's a set of optional settings > > > (VERBOSE, LOG_LINIT, DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, etc) that can be set there. > > > If using the module, how does one set these? > > > > > Logging is compiled into the modules and there are a few sysctl's. AFAIK, > > everything else is the same. There are _lots_ of sysctls, even more recently with SCTP support. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html This is absolutely the worst section of an otherwise great handbook. Apart from being way out of date it contains gratuitous deprecation, inaccuracies and a large number of plain untruths, was largely written by someone who doesn't use (or like) ipfw, and has examples styled to duplicate an IPFILTER setup. Nothing short of a rewrite from scratch could fix it, despite efforts by several people to clarify aspects; only quite recently the invalid 'ipfw block' command was removed from it. ipfw(8) is a complete (albeit very terse) ipfw reference and I thoroughly recommend studying that instead. Despite what the handbook section says, the sample rules eg the 'simple' ruleset in rc.firewall ARE these days suitable for immediate use using rc.conf variables, DO include NAT functionality (either with natd or ipfw nat) in the _correct_ place in the ruleset, and DO include some stateful rules; that and ipfw(8) are certainly a better place to start than the dreadful examples afflicting the handbook since some years. > So ... double-checking I'm doing this right: > > 1) in /boot/loader.conf: > > ipfw_load="YES" > ipdivert_load="YES" I thought from your earlier mail that you wanted to use in-kernel NAT? If so, rather than divert sockets (using ipfw's divert action) you want: ipfw_nat_load=YES libalias_load=YES > 2) in the kernel config: > > #options IPFIREWALL #firewall > #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #enable logging to syslogd(8) > #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #limit verbosity > #options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default > #options IPDIVERT > #options IPFIREWALL_NAT #ipfw kernel nat support > options LIBALIAS # required for NAT I believe all these can be accomplished with modules on GENERIC kernel, at least on 8.x, with the exception of FIREWALL_FORWARD functionality which does require a custom kernel as it messes with lots of ip paths. If you want to use natd(8) then you'll need ipdivert.ko (as you have above), but if you want to use in-kernel NAT (not yet mentioned in the handbook sections for ipfw or natd, though there since 7.0) then you'll want IPFIREWALL_NAT and LIBALIAS in kernel, or loaded as modules: ipfw.ko ipfw_nat.ko # in-kernel ipfw nat libalias.ko # for in-kernel ipfw nat dummynet.ko # if wanted ipdivert.ko # (or) for natd Basically, natd uses userland libaliasand ipdivert but in-kernel NAT needs in-kernel libalias. The syntax of nat commands is virtually identical for natd.conf and ipfw nat commands, see ipfw(8) & natd(8) > 3) in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1" Interestingly, that one hasn't yet made it into ipfw(8) .. your choice, or you can use firewall_type="open" for rc.firewall without that, until you've got your ruleset in action (when default to deny is advisable) > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose="1" > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit="100" > > > That cover it? Should do .. with the abovementioned exception, take ipfw(8) as being definitive, ignore the misleading and often just plain wrong handbook section, and prosper .. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 09:56:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279E91065674; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1108FC19; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:56:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CD337805E; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:56:26 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Alejandro Imass References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.4.13; tzolkin = 5 Ben; haab = 6 Pop Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:56:26 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Alejandro Imass's message of "Sun, 4 Apr 2010 12:45:30 -0400") Message-ID: <86eiipvtit.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: glarkin@freebsd.org, kline@thought.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... 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Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 10:59:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF562106566C for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) Received: from hercules.mthelicon.com (hercules.mthelicon.com [IPv6:2001:49f0:2023::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF568FC17 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PortaPegIII (hydra.fletchermoorland.co.uk [78.33.209.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by hercules.mthelicon.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o39Axelh030109 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:59:41 GMT (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) From: "Pegasus Mc Cleaft" To: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:59:41 +0100 Message-ID: <000301cad7d3$c267bc10$47373430$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcrX08E5/KMqsapDRJKPqMw6wn/Obg== Content-Language: en-gb X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on hercules.mthelicon.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: SSL / SSH choosing hardware accelerator first X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:59:47 -0000 Hello group, I am currently running FreeBSD 9-Current AMD64. I have a Hifn crypto accelerator installed in the machine. I have noticed that when I connect to the machine using SSH, it does not use the crypto hardware. There was a patch that someone made that forced SSL to use the hardware by default, but I was wondering if there was a way to do this in userland/configuration? It would be nice to have the hardware accelerated cryptography used as first priority before deciding to use the software emulated modes. Does anyone know how this can be done? Peg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 11:38:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370E11065670 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8596A8FC13 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o39BPO9j042988; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 05:25:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o39BPOd8042985; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 05:25:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 05:25:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:25:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 11:38:51 -0000 On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Programmer In Training wrote: > >> ... they are only attached for power purposes ... > >> Input power: DC 5V 500mA > > Any chance these speakers need a USB 2.0 port, and all the ports > on your FreeBSD box are 1.x? I don't remember the USB power spec > offhand, but 2.5W may exceed what a USB 1.x port can supply -- > a limit that applies regardless of the system's overall power > provisioning. 500 mA is 5 unit loads for USB 2.0, or powered hub territory. The device has to request that high power mode, and the system can say no and disable the port. That should show in /var/log/messages. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 11:49:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8E2106564A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wangjianjun@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com (mail-iw0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06E38FC19 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn1 with SMTP id 1so2160285iwn.27 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 04:49:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QG6D0vMKrrYWjsBw9VBsRg/OlJm5gABgxPI5tgSCP1E=; b=i8Fl0plWhcKuw9Fi+a3+9vcHt/frh03a296AKSu9NG//u9wlSypstoYYw49PDaM5sj xj7M1lzYq5FAGBiIIFFGSkstnOJWB+MpKJo1Tz7llLLHkUZaz0S/8e3fXI8i23I9ZAfP vnIz9E+HA9IhzwpauwE0Kua5DCqx2mudx4/ho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JpsvrgAlo0YmrfW+smmR/IUzfm8EDTYqC2f0CUrBAtQAbjPFrjjzPK9LRcn5sU6Te2 GP1PBoaTKxS8UwRHlr9trU8NU0lLHSyOQxUrZCglTtXCtGesDFu++Auv+bDXm2Bn2JdH c2h0Ti+4M5OBoO0hz06esY39mqX8PhQbzkF3A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.170.5 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:49:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:49:01 +0800 Received: by 10.231.79.136 with SMTP id p8mr716031ibk.4.1270813741934; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 04:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Jian Jun Wang To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdm background picture missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 11:49:03 -0000 this solution worked, although it took me a lot of time to download packages, thank you so much. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Jian Jun Wang wrote: > >> Any suggestion on stepsto solve the problem? >> > > Follow the steps in /usr/ports/UPDATING when you are updating ports. > > Another option would be to pkg_delete * and install everything again from > ports. There are good instructions for this in the portmaster man page. > > -- > Adam Vande More > -- TNT - Today, Not Tomorrow From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 12:35:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8E8106564A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FACE8FC24 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2010 08:35:05 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id QPY84556; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 08:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2010 08:34:46 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19391.7909.888110.689450@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 08:34:45 -0400 To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: <20100409160704.K52200@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100408234803.7519B1065770@hub.freebsd.org> <20100409160704.K52200@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Adam Vande More , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:35:06 -0000 Ian Smith writes: > > So ... double-checking I'm doing this right: > > > > 1) in /boot/loader.conf: > > > > ipfw_load="YES" > > ipdivert_load="YES" > > I thought from your earlier mail that you wanted to use in-kernel > NAT? I want whatever works. :-) Beyond that ... all other things being more-or-less equal I'll do this with modules. Let's build that. So in /etc/sysctl.conf: net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1" net.inet.ip.fw.verbose="1" net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit="100" check. > I believe all these can be accomplished with modules on GENERIC > kernel, at least on 8.x, with the exception of FIREWALL_FORWARD > functionality which does require a custom kernel as it messes > with lots of ip paths. This machine has a custom kernel, so that's not a an issue. And in /boot/loader.conf: ipfw_load="YES" ipfw_nat="YES" # in-kernel ipfw nat libalias="YES" # for in-kernel ipfw nat check. and in the kernel config: #options IPFIREWALL #firewall #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #enable logging to syslogd(8) options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #limit verbosity #options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default #options IPDIVERT #options IPFIREWALL_NAT #ipfw kernel nat support #options LIBALIAS # required for NAT check. This combination will get me a) ipfw, using the standard rc.conf "firewall_" variables, and b) NAT ... do I still need to have a "nat" setting in the firewall rules? Less confused than last time, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 12:45:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419C9106566C for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0922D8FC1E for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8658 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2010 12:45:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 12:45:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=XM7OseOAhOvjcL8TmG8KkrVhaioPeBOaevlOumFLWSgRdxf6ZlwQzGvGTXOuqTxAfTvlC9EmhvVibHB5Hv2quL+/cN3B38uRksHZjgzkhKIZnkBTWTsqxT5CeDFDLTcs; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0Da9-00076d-5f for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 06:45:12 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBF2132.5010204@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:44:34 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBE5ACB.3010601@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100409074803.10a4edde.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100409074803.10a4edde.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3AC26C1C5894220E7C45E5F8" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: Adding a Disk and Changing Mountpoints X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:45:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3AC26C1C5894220E7C45E5F8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/09/10 00:48, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:38:03 -0500, Programmer In Training wrote: >> Saturday I'll be adding a second 40GB and a tertiary 6GB disk to the >> system (in favor of adding a CD-RW to a system that already has a DVD >> super multi-format drive). I'd like to rearrange my mount points a bit= =2E > > Here we go. :-) Thank you for the detailed response. Without knowing any of that, I would have totally messed up. I'll be printing out the email so I have it handy on Saturday. Again, thank you! --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig3AC26C1C5894220E7C45E5F8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLvyE6AAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0uCEH/RPPIdu4pNEjBiHA78D9pJXR xWYGl7jA15X9hramX+dwPi8rdLnWdnXDVXbh4AWhPx8O6Gk6queusVExgn/HBanz 6LVoFJDIHIZDAFmFYGMv0Za6PHEP/FADh/zHf7fD7YqNnMQoQ3OaN4TaTLOekmFm vvWvxJ00JMPt3T5KX/sipeahE93Ok8mctqBCmlG2/1qIwpb/+FKU/tX4E75l1w92 bTpdIfS/E7ou+3MXDKvdkcpoyMkQDGHZ1Eq05utirXHeirs3bcBl4JXtmW0oUQ73 Sr6uIphFeemBMRXSyJfVux/jIVpp3R5sRdbyWM2M3VMtdRsXwiE8HckGcFfIus4= =1IEn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3AC26C1C5894220E7C45E5F8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 12:57:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F05F106564A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65C2E8FC13 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27153 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2010 12:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 12:57:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=hwsUbbx8sRdCaeyD8GtWLcUvt31aQMng1QtZyJDZzG4X8l/h6kB4J6JoYtM8FuAn8udtQPNOnUlnVvU4T/K59v2q06ou9cj+CuAm25Tjd4XDqh+5uZOnVybSZhw/v8Wg; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0Dlt-00046t-EV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 06:57:17 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBF240D.4060501@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:56:45 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBED494.3040606@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4BBED494.3040606@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6F7E2E2988920CA116863479" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:57:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6F7E2E2988920CA116863479 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/09/10 02:17, Fbsd1 wrote: > Antonio Olivares wrote: >> On 4/8/10, Programmer In Training wrote: >>> I have acquired a pair of Compaq USB /powered/ speakers. On my parent= s >>> XP machine they don't seem to cause any problems, but when I hook it = up >>> to listen on my FreeBSD box I have absolutely nothing but problems wi= th >>> the speakers (even when turned off but still plugged in) interrupting= >>> the normal operation of my keyboard (basically it seems that power is= >>> cut to my keyboard at random). I have a beefy power supply (650W) so = I >>> really shouldn't be having any power distribution issues. >>> >>> I've tried the speakers in both the on-board USB ports and the USB >>> expansion card (PCI) with the same results. >>> >>> Any ideas? >=20 > You really need to explain in detail the problem. That's as much detail, except for the question below, that I have. > Without these new speakers plugged in does wall powered speakers work? Yeah, normal wall speakers work, but I gave those to my mom since these speakers, even at full blast, only put out a tiny sound on her computer (normal volume on mine). --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig6F7E2E2988920CA116863479 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLvyQfAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0XpIH/354XZmxi6QzJj5AzIYzkhMT FLzduNtEsKb/F+5cxR0cjbAE8I4ycGbldGpCnxhBY5c1gSpiRX6hNWHI8hCFHq+6 3F2bsYYskd9O0WhwS+6NUyH3IJxR2ZBh/vII2v9i/N1Vs8HJMEkOHhSsUeUjQe5N xYF8meN9HJkeY+pYvQK18UAxt9VwEO90xxh1USAz8xbn3HTdWgTqzrcLmwS7/dNy fOsh7gCQ8VCdNMfwCuJNSAO/pxBAcp2+9v1/fqTyS1PyDhoVm01f7YDqww5nwkbt wuNdA68oxdUAQ67Pd32zu4wqQyfycDktnZ4mDV6X2dUx7eond9Jp0+3wYIzxvX0= =qf9V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6F7E2E2988920CA116863479-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 12:58:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD1A1065672 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A13A38FC12 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28665 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2010 12:58:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 12:58:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=dZJ24U8/n2pQUv+72jJBSp0eYChk5F66vbVaE09c+8OG1tEgXF0gQxQLBOAadP1Zd7mLZ3ddsIb7s9ZstxK1uva5wHSGl8y2fLo/IJwDAWNkTZ7l9gnoGLX8EwKXi37t; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0Dmt-0004RE-L7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 06:58:20 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBF245D.50508@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:58:05 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig67C2C9ABB6CF26949CF6540F" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:58:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig67C2C9ABB6CF26949CF6540F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/09/10 02:51, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Programmer In Training wrote: >=20 >> ... they are only attached for power purposes ... >=20 >> Input power: DC 5V 500mA >=20 > Any chance these speakers need a USB 2.0 port, and all the ports The expansion card is 2.0 > on your FreeBSD box are 1.x? I don't remember the USB power spec > offhand, but 2.5W may exceed what a USB 1.x port can supply -- > a limit that applies regardless of the system's overall power > provisioning. That would explain why the sound was so small on my parents computer. All they have is 1.x --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig67C2C9ABB6CF26949CF6540F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLvyRdAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0FtoH/i7YaTQLCIdV5z3pOv+dEA31 E7ynwav1IuHWQczyhA6DI203d/fh+bc7GWAarE6lzcLwQE8jWyt2IYnyb+8h1NgY lljZQc3mNgbRsfyrbWrDMD4dBkDxnRXBY5rH4DsK6gVkBofhHkfOy8JoFeEXCy+S OkkhS48defZE5iQcQ81u+5P6ou325sdIsmY2L9zVLZXzGL1JqoOL06DVs6oO1/NX m0a+j4tZW5rtuP3bIuU3v0AN7YhUatWHbdG32W9JkRhcqt6++p+7tW7W+oG309j3 c1jQ0FblZcfkmb52H1etV3hSlnINfey38qBIR9aEOVxBt87E8utu2dpq+nUnx6U= =gFlN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig67C2C9ABB6CF26949CF6540F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 13:01:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3AA106564A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1368FC14 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-218.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.218]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903631E60F; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:01:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o39D1Cvx002933; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:01:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:01:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Programmer In Training Message-Id: <20100409150112.4eb23eda.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4BBF2132.5010204@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> References: <4BBE5ACB.3010601@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100409074803.10a4edde.freebsd@edvax.de> <4BBF2132.5010204@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding a Disk and Changing Mountpoints X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:01:15 -0000 On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:44:34 -0500, Programmer In Training wrote: > Thank you for the detailed response. Without knowing any of that, I > would have totally messed up. I'll be printing out the email so I have > it handy on Saturday. I made a mistake. Please check and correct this in your hardcopy. In the example for copying the home directories, I wrote: # mount -o ro /dev/ad0s1f /usr # mount -o ro /dev/ad2s1e /home The second -o ro is wrong, has to be -o rw, because you're writing to this partition in the next step: # mount -o ro /dev/ad0s1f /usr # mount -o rw /dev/ad2s1e /home The basic idea is to work with least dangerous permissions, so if you're going to read files from a partition, -o ro is sufficient. But of course it's not sufficient for writing. :-) And for the final /etc/fstab, this is wrong: /dev/ad0s1d /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1e /scratch ufs rw 2 2 It would have to be: /dev/ad0s1d /scratch ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1e /tmp ufs rw 2 2 becausse /dev/ad0s1d previously was /var. In any case, as you're working with maximum privileges on file systems, pay attention to device names and directories. Triple-check them. Always. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 13:07:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B8B106564A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E4C18FC15 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13425 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2010 13:07:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 13:07:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=kPsK3DN7gFFOaQWj6R5v9t5Ugq3VtI2d9JsRSS6Bdph/BFTWuD2L56U0LPXBN8L9VX+l9fROszmhk5pthpVLLacd3ASJpjNTvHqJZ7izO8I/Fw4KGIx8eLisi2pePmmE; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0Dvp-0008Ek-UE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:07:34 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBF2674.6080402@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 08:07:00 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF185F5A30775FB9A2A4521EC" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:07:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF185F5A30775FB9A2A4521EC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/09/10 06:25, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >=20 >> Programmer In Training wrote: >> >>> ... they are only attached for power purposes ... >> >>> Input power: DC 5V 500mA >> >> Any chance these speakers need a USB 2.0 port, and all the ports >> on your FreeBSD box are 1.x? I don't remember the USB power spec >> offhand, but 2.5W may exceed what a USB 1.x port can supply -- >> a limit that applies regardless of the system's overall power >> provisioning. >=20 > 500 mA is 5 unit loads for USB 2.0, or powered hub territory. The > device has to request that high power mode, and the system can say no > and disable the port. That should show in /var/log/messages. The following messages so far haven't shown up today. Apr 8 22:30:01 heaven root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x046e product 0x5542 bus uhub4 Apr 8 22:30:01 heaven kernel: uhid0: on usbus4 Apr 8 22:30:01 heaven kernel: uhub_explore:611: illegal enable change, port 3 Apr 8 22:30:15 heaven kernel: ugen4.3: at usbus4 (disconnected) Apr 8 22:30:15 heaven kernel: ukbd0: at uhub4, port 3, addr 3 (disconnected) Apr 8 22:30:15 heaven kernel: uhid0: at uhub4, port 3, addr 3 (disconnected) Apr 8 22:30:16 heaven kernel: usb_alloc_device:1586: set address 3 failed (USB_ERR_IOERROR, ignored) Apr 8 22:30:16 heaven kernel: usb_alloc_device:1624: getting device descriptor at addr 3 failed, USB_ERR_IOERROR! --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enigF185F5A30775FB9A2A4521EC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLvyaIAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0KMAH/RKS5lL6wPLrtAUEZJFJ3dlW hrXwIK+jvwv4ZQF/f+i0oXgQz/YgQAK8I0LllyU6r7vUSARl0+ETCvQuB/5V+XgA qhdikHelHaDnBM3Yt3//XCnIRlAPRFTIH8zpub99DtqkMeq1IecxRM8NYqr9jzJN edfzi/xLGhzWJ81JlGcJmqWIetgmqB2NwhU8gl8UAryRDocOR54pBiL1ymXouWMT HLKANWqHokwk5ehA7DX7TjtG5keqDAUTaieJEKlEZw9koG87vknzVvGLkPzOYBRz QE/+cw+C1yCyQqbfhUITDEOcAUxLB/8qyQm8sllH4YLDg7I9viBOQpx8qTAjLGo= =ECKL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF185F5A30775FB9A2A4521EC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 13:26:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561BF106566B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1327B8FC1A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0EER-0008RM-4P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:26:47 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o39DQkKd016549 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:26:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o39DQkBe016548 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:26:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:26:46 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100409132646.GA16510@current.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: sendmail && /etc/resolv.conf modified by DHCP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:26:49 -0000 Hello, At home I have my WLAN as 192.168.2.0/24. After moving to my office and rebooting there, I encounter that sendmail receives messages (via fetchmail) terrible slow. I digged into this and see that the sendmail issues wrong DNS requests as (for example): 08:51:18.753491 IP xx.xx.xx.xx.49812 > 192.168.2.1.53: 12793+ MX? ubuntu.com.Sisis.de. (37) 08:51:18.867365 IP xx.xx.xx.xx.42619 > 192.168.2.1.53: 12793+ MX? physik.uni-wuerzburg.de.Sisis.de. (50) 08:51:18.982491 IP xx.xx.xx.xx.52554 > 192.168.2.1.53: 12794+ AAAA? lexasoft.ru. (29) 08:51:19.095490 IP xx.xx.xx.xx.10093 > 192.168.2.1.53: 12794+ AAAA? des.no. (24) The reason is obvious: - the /etc/resolv.conf on shutdown at home has this DNS resolver; - in my office the system comes up and when at some point the WLAN interface associates, it gets an IP and a new /etc/resolv.conf file; Why sendmail does not honour the new /etc/resolv.conf and stays with the old DNS server IP? How this is supposed to fix? An idea would be to restart sendmail via a devd hook, but maybe there is some config values for sendmail that it always check /etc/resolv.conf for fresh? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ ¡Ya basta! ¡Tropas de OTAN, fuera de Afghanistan! There's an end of it! NATO troups out of Afghanistan! Schluss jetzt endlich! NATO raus aus Afghanistan! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 14:38:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3603106566B; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:38:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F2E8FC1A; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1086609qwi.7 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:38:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.218.137 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:38:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86eiipvtit.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <20100403210610.GA4135@thought.org> <4BB8108A.9080104@FreeBSD.org> <1270371713.5861.98.camel@tao.thought.org> <86aatjnsts.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <861vevnsow.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86eiipvtit.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:38:14 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 250f8521316ae3cd Received: by 10.229.191.18 with SMTP id dk18mr160347qcb.9.1270823895370; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: glarkin@freebsd.org, kline@thought.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: perl qstn... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:38:21 -0000 On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Alejandro" =3D=3D Alejandro Imass writes: > > Alejandro> did you mean unless? ;-) > > Did you read this: > >>> Augh. =A0I hit send just as I realized that's backwards. =A0Need >>> more caffiene. =A0Swap the true and false blocks there. :) > Yeah, but _after_ I had pressed send . That sparked the comment that unless was a bad idea in C and then all helll broke loose > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 00= 95 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussi= on > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 15:07:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB991065673 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F738FC13 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o39F7XlG006499; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:07:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:07:32 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <19391.7909.888110.689450@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: <20100409233244.F52200@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100408234803.7519B1065770@hub.freebsd.org> <20100409160704.K52200@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <19391.7909.888110.689450@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Adam Vande More , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:07:36 -0000 On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Robert Huff wrote: > Ian Smith writes: > > > > So ... double-checking I'm doing this right: > > > > > > 1) in /boot/loader.conf: > > > > > > ipfw_load="YES" > > > ipdivert_load="YES" > > > > I thought from your earlier mail that you wanted to use in-kernel > > NAT? > > I want whatever works. :-) natd works, as ever. ipfw nat is reputed to work faster. > Beyond that ... all other things being more-or-less equal I'll > do this with modules. > Let's build that. So in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > net.inet.ip.fw.default_to_accept="1" > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose="1" > net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit="100" > > check. > > > I believe all these can be accomplished with modules on GENERIC > > kernel, at least on 8.x, with the exception of FIREWALL_FORWARD > > functionality which does require a custom kernel as it messes > > with lots of ip paths. > > This machine has a custom kernel, so that's not a an issue. > And in /boot/loader.conf: > > ipfw_load="YES" > ipfw_nat="YES" # in-kernel ipfw nat > libalias="YES" # for in-kernel ipfw nat ipfw_nat_load="YES" libalias_load="YES" > check. > and in the kernel config: > > #options IPFIREWALL #firewall > #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #enable logging to syslogd(8) > > options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD Planning on using any 'fwd' rules? > #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #limit verbosity > #options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default > #options IPDIVERT > #options IPFIREWALL_NAT #ipfw kernel nat support > #options LIBALIAS # required for NAT > > check. > This combination will get me a) ipfw, using the standard > rc.conf "firewall_" variables, and b) NAT ... do I still need to > have a "nat" setting in the firewall rules? The 'client' ruleset now has rules for either natd or ipfw nat. The 'simple' ruleset works with natd (from natd_enable and natd_interface in rc.conf), but still lacks the patch for ipfw nat - my remiss for seeking comment in ipfw@ rather than sending it with a PR, as one should. Time I redid it, you can be guinea pig :) What freebsd version? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 18:31:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DB9106567C for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 18:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D6848FC21 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 18:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5219 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2010 18:31:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 18:31:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=v2zEZ+TJWSZKGBfrjVit1GnG5x0/0v20Jq0kZv3eV/wLzpR1UxQUF1weoW8LATedwCn2WPwhtiJcsjIK08+FFrZGNttRmUM+RQpeuwCES4yg20ZqW/KI9nVcQDGN/s8Z; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0Izg-0006SC-Sb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:31:53 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBF727D.6000407@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:31:25 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4BBF2674.6080402@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9BA8C9D398969B357593A78C" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:31:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9BA8C9D398969B357593A78C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/09/10 10:15, Brodey Dover wrote: > "Apr 8 22:30:16 heaven kernel: usb_alloc_device:1624: getting device > descriptor at addr 3 failed, USB_ERR_IOERROR!" >=20 > exactly! That is what is causing the issues. From what I can see, it > is like it was explained before. The OS has chosen to play nice and > request that the speakers are disabled. >=20 > The power requirements will not affect the system until the speakers > are producing sound. In other words, the system will only draw UP to > the power input rating while in operation. At idle, I'd wager they may > only use 1/10 of its power rating for the idle ICs and a power LED. Only it's not the speakers that have their operation interrupted, JUST the keyboard (not even the mouse is affected). --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:17:44 -0000 Has anybody had this problem and fixed it? wdm runs my ~/.xsession file; but no X-applications run. It just runs past them and returns to the wdm login screen. Currently I am running xdm; but it's kind of bland and spicing it up requires a very steep learning curve. ====== "What did you do?" the man holding the flashlight asked. "I put down a spider," he said, wondering why the man didn't see; in the beam of yellow light the spider bloated up larger than life. "So it could get away." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 19:37:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A591065673 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp6.server.rpi.edu (smtp6.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCDB8FC19 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp6.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o39IYssT015793; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:34:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> References: <7BB44832-271A-457B-A088-93D3F7C3370B@shockergroup.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:34:53 -0400 To: Tom Ierna , freebsd-questions From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0) X-RPI-SA-Score: 0.10 () [Hold at 20.00] COMBINED_FROM X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.226 Cc: Subject: Re: RootBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:37:20 -0000 At 9:04 AM -0400 4/6/10, Tom Ierna wrote: >Hi, > >Anyone have any experience with RootBSD.net? > >I'm looking to move an office-hosted machine's services to the >cloud, and they seem to be one of the only VPS companies centered >around BSD support instead of Linux. I've been using them for a few years now. What I have with them is a system which is meant to be used as a "hot backup" for a system which is here in my office. So, the main things I wanted was (1) real freebsd systems, (2) which were someplace far away from Troy NY. I wanted to be pretty sure that any problem which took out my main system would NOT take out my "hot backup" system! I've had absolutely no trouble with them. The few times that I've had to contact them, they've been happy to provide whatever help I needed. On the other hand, my main system has been working fine for almost three years now, so this backup system that I have at rootbsd.net has not seen much activity. I just rsync the main system to the backup system once a day, and then every few months I upgrade the FreeBSD that I'm running on the system at rootbsd.net. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosehn@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 19:57:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25714106566C for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9298FC19 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1208724qwi.7 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:57:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AOSMrcniR1fWTfZzycVZWc7+k0ia1Tjaizw7V1iwbHE=; b=YQRr94Ux7a3CkOwK+WwjRLIF0Lq2tKsaVNcfUiPWtcaN2+bduznVlSL87mFU4j1xBv j4+fo1pqwG0RU3SeUkIJs6wB2BGpRLnM93ZghY+77UxgtduGZwYLXzwuFvzRZMiaYR1S WVYFZnXuXyN1RJ3cMOCuyqd6Sc7Ht8nRAMkow= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=lPV1NIHmXcVuzzxQ8gxPnqwyX6TEt/4+R26rSiFqpGOLq1ndbtFB/t6vIJI29qBmE4 JvBItrVHui+0QPrJ8Mi5D+UhKfveiTh2E8iqhtEAJ7JLj17MAIynECxUqYwLoaUbsCwg djz0JJhphRgXYcor47bDxKeAPOR0vD+M9abe4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.147 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:57:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <811305.76070.qm@web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <811305.76070.qm@web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:57:43 -0500 Received: by 10.229.81.81 with SMTP id w17mr747803qck.4.1270843063964; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Neil Short Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wdm doesn't start windowing manager. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:57:45 -0000 On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Neil Short wrote: > Has anybody had this problem and fixed it? > wdm runs my ~/.xsession file; but no X-applications run. It just runs past > them and returns to the wdm login screen. > > Currently I am running xdm; but it's kind of bland and spicing it up > requires a very steep learning curve. > I've had issue with desktop environment in the past with similar behavior. Usually for me is was a permissions problem, but you should be able to turn up logging verbosity to figure out where your specific issue is. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 20:39:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819B6106566B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 20:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD448FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 20:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o39KO5ep048767 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:24:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o39KO5rY048764 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:24:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:24:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <4BBF727D.6000407@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Message-ID: References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4BBF2674.6080402@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF727D.6000407@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:24:05 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:39:24 -0000 On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Programmer In Training wrote: > On 04/09/10 10:15, Brodey Dover wrote: >> "Apr 8 22:30:16 heaven kernel: usb_alloc_device:1624: getting device >> descriptor at addr 3 failed, USB_ERR_IOERROR!" >> >> exactly! That is what is causing the issues. From what I can see, it >> is like it was explained before. The OS has chosen to play nice and >> request that the speakers are disabled. >> >> The power requirements will not affect the system until the speakers >> are producing sound. In other words, the system will only draw UP to >> the power input rating while in operation. At idle, I'd wager they may >> only use 1/10 of its power rating for the idle ICs and a power LED. Just to add: When you plug in a USB device, it is a "low power" device (single unit load, 100 mA) by default. If that device wants to draw more power, it has to request high power (5 unit loads) from the hub. The hub can provide that power, or shut down the port. > Only it's not the speakers that have their operation interrupted, JUST > the keyboard (not even the mouse is affected). Guesses: Total power budget (but FIFO?). Speaker/keyboard USB ports are on the same internal hub. High-power OLED keyboard (my eyes!). Speakers labelled 500 mA but really only a low-power USB device. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 20:54:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE98106566C for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 20:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B3908FC12 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 20:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14183 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2010 20:54:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 20:54:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=XWzODN+FrmI2aM9NySiB75A6TFNW14OPHMv4aGLWQznk3ye649fWC8gM/xKjIVIsFcmvuXQ+dma+yRKICQoTPe+jqzOf6dsaIZBeAu5VzJXuu/AAa53ySHEjfDxqWft6; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0LDZ-00005S-Nw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:54:22 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBF93E8.4080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:54:00 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4BBF2674.6080402@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF727D.6000407@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAC513DEA68A7F0FAFF98BC08" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:54:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAC513DEA68A7F0FAFF98BC08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/09/10 15:24, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Programmer In Training wrote: >=20 >> On 04/09/10 10:15, Brodey Dover wrote: >>> "Apr 8 22:30:16 heaven kernel: usb_alloc_device:1624: getting device= >>> descriptor at addr 3 failed, USB_ERR_IOERROR!" >>> >>> exactly! That is what is causing the issues. From what I can see, it >>> is like it was explained before. The OS has chosen to play nice and >>> request that the speakers are disabled. >>> >>> The power requirements will not affect the system until the speakers >>> are producing sound. In other words, the system will only draw UP to >>> the power input rating while in operation. At idle, I'd wager they ma= y >>> only use 1/10 of its power rating for the idle ICs and a power LED. >=20 > Just to add: >=20 > When you plug in a USB device, it is a "low power" device (single unit > load, 100 mA) by default. >=20 > If that device wants to draw more power, it has to request high power (= 5 > unit loads) from the hub. The hub can provide that power, or shut down= > the port. I never knew that about USB ports. >> Only it's not the speakers that have their operation interrupted, JUST= >> the keyboard (not even the mouse is affected). >=20 > Guesses: >=20 > Total power budget (but FIFO?). I don't get that. Do you mean total power allocated to USB? > Speaker/keyboard USB ports are on the same internal hub. I'm not sure what you mean here. I've put the speakers on the internal, builtin USB ports (1.x) and they work fine except keyboard starts flaking out. I put them on the USB expansion card (which mouse and keyboard are on because they were starting to flake out on the builtins) with the same exact behavior. > High-power OLED keyboard (my eyes!). Keyboard label (if it is to be believed) is +5V 100mA. It's just a standard keyboard with some extra multimedia keys that aren't active (a pity, too). > Speakers labelled 500 mA but really only a low-power USB device. Than they shouldn't be messing with the keyboard, right? It usually takes about an hour or so for the keyboard to settle down to a usable state (until then, I'm doing a lot of mousing as the keyboard is near useless). I really don't know where to look for this. I've never even heard of USB powered speakers until I got these (no, I don't pay much attention to what's available unless I have a great need for it). I'm thinking I'm just going to wait until Tuesday and get a brand new pair of wall-powered speakers. This hassle is NOT worth it (they put out decent sound). --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enigAC513DEA68A7F0FAFF98BC08 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLv5PvAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0O0QH/3iZ7HVO+uTdwOOREpwoM2Dp iOezIHcatwYEis8/XgQ3risOyThqKuAycsuROoUPg4WpW06K8V+bSBqGiK3JWLfs k5GJPOgsvAtn8QpIRGGil4CYT/V4GavdZR2oKqlPERnfU6oD9LyL7WgpG6RZonHk JaLhJ2oWxrQ1eBAOgjMlWwYneJsBV2MIguNRpQyw5py8pxtokakmcsqGqyJjrT2l qF6rZhbBaxCXmKSeRnXXMgglV5Pt52BVzyrJZWeU9KB6j1DDooav2d7AoP7KtOn2 JdPSvLfYbrIiygT2BUE6rBHfYAefPZYT1AiV/Lm/6y5hbsVOSq2lfBajG2s1w8Q= =Tcss -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAC513DEA68A7F0FAFF98BC08-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 23:14:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377B8106566B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp1.comclark.com (avmxsmtp1.comclark.com [202.69.191.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C508FC18 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:14:52 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnoSANhRv0vKRa7iPGdsb2JhbAAHh16TZwEBAQE1uwSFCQSDIg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,179,1270396800"; d="scan'208";a="13531176" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.174.226]) by avmxsmtp3.comclark.com with ESMTP; 10 Apr 2010 07:14:50 +0800 Message-ID: <4BBFB4E8.9010304@comclark.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:14:48 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: perl links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:14:54 -0000 When installing perl i see 2 links between /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin. Is this still required or is it something left over from when perl was part of the base system? symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 23:22:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9226B1065673 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB728FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:22:51 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L0M00DG3UA1YT30@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:22:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1004090244 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4BBFB4E8.9010304@comclark.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:22:49 -0700 Message-id: <9FBA659F-FB72-493D-B93C-610D1214BF74@mac.com> References: <4BBFB4E8.9010304@comclark.com> To: Aiza X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: perl links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:22:51 -0000 On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Aiza wrote: > When installing perl i see 2 links between /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin. Is this still required or is it something left over from when perl was part of the base system? > > symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl > symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl5 This is to compensate for Perl scripts which assume they know where the path to the interpreter is, rather than using env.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 23:29:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB28106566B for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp03.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp03.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8AB8FC17 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:65149 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp03.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1O0Ncf-0001Hp-Cs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:28:28 +0200 Received: (qmail 19264 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2010 01:28:24 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 10 Apr 2010 01:28:24 +0200 Received: (qmail 76014 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Apr 2010 01:28:24 +0200 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:28:24 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Aiza Message-ID: <20100409232824.GA75944@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <4BBFB4E8.9010304@comclark.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4BBFB4E8.9010304@comclark.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1O0Ncf-0001Hp-Cs. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp03.sth.basefarm.net 1O0Ncf-0001Hp-Cs 0d199b053982988dd43d906742263320 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: perl links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:29:54 -0000 On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:14:48AM +0800, Aiza wrote: > When installing perl i see 2 links between /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin. > Is this still required or is it something left over from when perl was > part of the base system? > > symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl > symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl5 It is still required (at least the first one.) It is there to be compatible with a very large number of existing Perl scripts which assume that the Perl interpreter can be found as /usr/bin/perl This has nothing do to with when Perl was part of the base system - it is a Perl convention which was established before FreeBSD (or Linux for that matter) even existed. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 23:31:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB1C1065673 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CEA8FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4B79C263010B53C8; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:31:31 +0100 Message-ID: <4BBFB8D3.2090708@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:31:31 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091212) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Programmer In Training References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4BBF2674.6080402@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF727D.6000407@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF93E8.4080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: <4BBF93E8.4080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:31:36 -0000 Programmer In Training wrote: > > I really don't know where to look for this. I've never even heard of USB > powered speakers until I got these (no, I don't pay much attention to > what's available unless I have a great need for it). I'm thinking I'm > just going to wait until Tuesday and get a brand new pair of > wall-powered speakers. This hassle is NOT worth it (they put out decent > sound). > Unless you insist on an operating system solution what you are really after is a 5 volt supply. What about buying a mains USB charger of the right capacity, or if you are handy with bits of wire have a look through all those old power supplies for a 5 volt one? Or even use the 5 volt supply from inside your computer (if it is a desktop not laptop) Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 23:41:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A9C106564A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 078808FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18968 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2010 23:41:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 23:41:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=NA8qjthnIWF8A+05HaEpDD/QinJ/fO0xeK8uWP0aRGJcJw+COHElTvAgS2O38VOvRvAZADHHs4dyoapudcpvmVVw66YEdah3608XTNbVKpSEEIkLN4uLx+vAZKnizPwd; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0Npa-0005Rb-9m for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:41:46 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBFBB25.8000208@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:41:25 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4BBF2674.6080402@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF727D.6000407@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF93E8.4080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBFB8D3.2090708@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <4BBFB8D3.2090708@onetel.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig00543FD65B2E7AB0F9658EEF" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:41:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig00543FD65B2E7AB0F9658EEF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/09/10 18:31, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Unless you insist on an operating system solution what you are really > after is a 5 volt supply. What about buying a mains USB charger of the > right capacity, or if you are handy with bits of wire have a look I wouldn't know where to look for one. > through all those old power supplies for a 5 volt one? Or even use the = 5 > volt supply from inside your computer (if it is a desktop not laptop) >=20 > Chris It is a desktop. There is a 5V supply in there?! --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig00543FD65B2E7AB0F9658EEF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLv7srAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0HAMIAI7CZBU64JXreSHqjxCG074C 2IECEpgWjur/Mq7X7LOhlLFSebaX4iSqKtIZIGq/CJl4Tu/mMQQ8aR5Z/k2NsA8F vWA4HtBqHMUe9EL2adRsNNzdONveNbFCbhY5z/CgitmNbycLSPp7bX+Vohjc++/j op5d2zeV6H2z7ARPYKmnsd0qThoHxygwQcRS5D5kN5DpewNsBNfbBxyS2JehDqAF H/CC6KMfdrGUVq2tUQi31Z331tmguFwmdIiES0z6u9eVlU5fmQHs8HXOr2yzVJgh eqk8gR9ucbgVh0FLGMjAbDxN6RJjcX4FTzVSC1cMeGNYF8JSxK+r7dItMXVv7uA= =rSb+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig00543FD65B2E7AB0F9658EEF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 00:40:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BB3106564A; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25AB8FC0A; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1O0OkU-0005Ub-Qo>; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:40:34 +0200 Received: from e178049102.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.49.102] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1O0OkU-00041d-Mj>; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:40:34 +0200 Message-ID: <4BBFC902.2090603@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:40:34 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100331 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.49.102 Cc: Subject: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9211-8i on FreeBSD 8/9? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:40:36 -0000 I'd like to build a new Workstation based on Intels 'Gulftown' for some numerical modelling purposes. Since I realised that on our Dell Poweredge Server with built-in Fusion MPT RAID/JBOD controller even attached SATA 3 GB hard disks seem to be 'faster' than on most Intel ICH9/ICH10 machines we also utilise with FreeBSD 8/amd64, I'd like to have a replacement SAS 2.0 controller like the LSI MegaRAID SAS 9211-8. I do not know much about this controller. I don't want to wait for native SATA 6Gb on Intel chipsets since this is announce for next year and I feel better being 'back to the roots' with SCSI/SAS 2 on FreeBSD. Are there any contraints on this above mentioned LSI SAS 2.0 controller execpt lacking RAID 5/6 level (it should be an replacement for the ICH10 so far for 7 or 8 hard disks/SSDs)? Any comment would be appreciated (please set CC to my email since I do not subscribe the questions-list). Thanks in advance, O. Hartmann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 00:58:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B75D1065670 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B8B8FC13 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 9 Apr 2010 20:58:20 -0400 References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4BBF2674.6080402@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF727D.6000407@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF93E8.4080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBFB8D3.2090708@onetel.com> <4BBFBB25.8000208@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Message-Id: From: mikel king To: Programmer In Training In-Reply-To: <4BBFBB25.8000208@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 20:58:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:58:30 -0000 On Apr 9, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Programmer In Training wrote: > On 04/09/10 18:31, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > >> Unless you insist on an operating system solution what you are really >> after is a 5 volt supply. What about buying a mains USB charger of >> the >> right capacity, or if you are handy with bits of wire have a look > > I wouldn't know where to look for one. > >> through all those old power supplies for a 5 volt one? Or even use >> the 5 >> volt supply from inside your computer (if it is a desktop not laptop) >> >> Chris > > It is a desktop. There is a 5V supply in there?! > > -- > Yours In Christ, Out of curiosity, have you tried an active USB 2.0 HUB to buffer the speakers from the computer's USB ports? Or even a AC to USB adapter? Regards, Mikel King CEO, Olivent Technologies Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine skype:mikel.king http://olivent.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelking http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 01:02:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F060106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4455F8FC0C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11891 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2010 01:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2010 01:02:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=WyE70GoH0VZU8ag3E/0oWuEnlQL8puwCdLYuWt3tmW4V5cYueYGSAFpYravfRP8PnJxkm3dM/mBGx43CYnAEXSmkSo+nf1T8gAffC1GDjc0asWGgFvc3YVDa2hSumvOz; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0P5e-0005bJ-64 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:02:26 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBFCE01.5060000@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:01:53 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4BBF2674.6080402@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF727D.6000407@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF93E8.4080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBFB8D3.2090708@onetel.com> <4BBFBB25.8000208@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig88C6C419544F0651C94702A7" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:02:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig88C6C419544F0651C94702A7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/09/10 19:58, mikel king wrote: > Out of curiosity, have you tried an active USB 2.0 HUB to buffer the > speakers from the computer's USB ports? Or even a AC to USB adapter? I don't have one of either of those items. I only have a passive 2.0 HUB (at least I think it's 2.0). Either way, looks as if there is a trip to the store and/or the website for my mobo manufacturer and a trip into the shed to find my EET books. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig88C6C419544F0651C94702A7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLv84UAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0vSMH/07Pog5jKP+85JFn9ay52SR2 VmXMm7jYTyKWPYWwfH70LS6b05OCt/9YoQ4RGgqJF6Scdv9yaUttwVtX/3U2hAFG 0URNiwkfyJ8WmfJj7TKefb2F0qzsJ+1zt0FNg8dG3Q9fEKcP5nIZETGD3J06U40R IEFgW/GsRiHoryv87uUaWvy7evbuH3nSyrcpoLWeKyGJv270OpWHVowRwZpsWGGr uPIW9GJtX9bRWHjuV394wzZ4WJILRvRkBzMEUpIKFwhpKv3BnDOhATMOmGEgspEq T0C3luMYyedTCRcWHEwxT1UvCTlavuMGAoNjFAsEa5YBVjFEeUFiIfV4Uciyfj8= =11v5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig88C6C419544F0651C94702A7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 02:12:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4F9106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972CB8FC0A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o3A2CpGS073964 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:12:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o3A2Co6W073963; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA10303; Fri, 9 Apr 10 19:00:30 PDT Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:59:45 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: smithi@nimnet.asn.au Message-Id: <4bbfdb91.TJ1v3uRXSquSIsC4%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100408234803.7519B1065770@hub.freebsd.org> <20100409160704.K52200@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20100409160704.K52200@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:12:52 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html > > This is absolutely the worst section of an otherwise great > handbook ... Nothing short of a rewrite from scratch could > fix it ... As always, I'm sure a patch -- to provide that rewrite -- would be welcome. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 02:12:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3B61065673 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976458FC1B for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o3A2Cp7v073973 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:12:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o3A2Cp4V073972 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA10319; Fri, 9 Apr 10 19:05:14 PDT Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:04:29 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4bbfdcad.W6JoDlxI393oub38%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4BBF2674.6080402@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF727D.6000407@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF93E8.4080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: <4BBF93E8.4080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:12:52 -0000 Programmer In Training wrote: > I'm thinking I'm just going to wait until Tuesday and get a brand > new pair of wall-powered speakers. This hassle is NOT worth it ... If "speakers on USB 2.0 card, all else on 1.x builtins" doesn't work, you might want to try a power adapter that has a USB host connector. (I've seen such at Fry's, intended for devices like iPods that were designed to recharge their internal batteries from a USB port.) This would effectively convert your current set to wall-powered, which might be less costly than a new set. WRT the suggestion to hack something together, I wouldn't suggest attempting it unless you're quite sure of what would be involved. It wouldn't be exactly difficult, but getting something backwards -- or connecting to the +12 instead of the +5 supply -- would at least let all the magic blue smoke out of the speakers :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 02:26:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F805106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65EAE8FC13 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15334 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2010 02:26:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2010 02:26:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=n97+Tz3QiGFPy25dIDJQDROxNQqVPndFwa1AjCI/CxRpfPPZzYRjOURIyZMnue3PAZGePL225/3meWKOYAsqQhr5HW4XjBK5b8NDakmD6A9jnt0duOym8WLu//Viu9Xc; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0QPG-0003CJ-9U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:26:46 -0600 Message-ID: <4BBFE1D1.6040108@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:26:25 -0500 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100324 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4BBF2674.6080402@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF727D.6000407@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF93E8.4080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbfdcad.W6JoDlxI393oub38%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4bbfdcad.W6JoDlxI393oub38%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3F4A4397B852FF7EC438AAB2" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:26:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3F4A4397B852FF7EC438AAB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/09/10 21:04, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Programmer In Training wrote: >=20 >> I'm thinking I'm just going to wait until Tuesday and get a brand >> new pair of wall-powered speakers. This hassle is NOT worth it ... >=20 > If "speakers on USB 2.0 card, all else on 1.x builtins" doesn't What I don't get is that the speakers work no matter what I hook it up to. 1.x builtins (they were recognized as 1.x by Windows, I assume they still are seeing as how they cannot be upgraded) or 2.0 card. And no matter what I hook up the speakers too, it messes with the keyboard, though I had not tried to put the keyboard and mouse back on the 1.x builtins (don't really need 2.0 speed for such devices) as they were starting to act up on them. > work, you might want to try a power adapter that has a USB host > connector. (I've seen such at Fry's, intended for devices like > iPods that were designed to recharge their internal batteries > from a USB port.) This would effectively convert your current > set to wall-powered, which might be less costly than a new set. Perhaps, but I've been wanting a new set for a while now. The set I had before this one was old when I got them. Last new set I had was from Creative. Two full range satellites with a 6 1/2" omni-directional sub-woofer for about $80; unfortunately that was ages ago. I miss them (the satellite's died before the sub). > WRT the suggestion to hack something together, I wouldn't suggest > attempting it unless you're quite sure of what would be involved. I'm fairly certain solder (rosin-core as acid-core would corrode the contacts), electrical tape and a few prayers that I avoid the below stated consequences (seriously, there is a +5 and +12 on my motherboard? man I am seriously under-utilizing this thing). > It wouldn't be exactly difficult, but getting something backwards > -- or connecting to the +12 instead of the +5 supply -- would at > least let all the magic blue smoke out of the speakers :) --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. 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Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:02:59 -0700 (PDT) From: harvey dent Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:02:59 +0200 Received: by 10.216.89.209 with SMTP id c59mr602668wef.181.1270879399169; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Custom kernel & atheros X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:27:12 -0000 hi everybody I try to make a custom kernel (for a "emachines" notebook), but i always get this same error or a similar (dependent of choosing ath_hal or for example ath_rf2425): *ar2425.o(.text+0x582): In function `ar2425RfAttach': /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:691: undefined reference to `ath_hal_malloc' ar2425.o(.text+0x5d4):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:705: undefined reference to `ar5212GetNfAdjust' ar2425.o(.text+0x614): In function `ar2425RfDetach': /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:674: undefined reference to `ath_hal_free' ar2425.o(.text+0x6fd): In function `ar2425SetRfRegs': /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:193: undefined reference to `ar5212ModifyRfBuffer' ar2425.o(.text+0x725):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:194: undefined reference to `ar5212ModifyRfBuffer' ar2425.o(.text+0xa84): In function `ar2425SetChannel': /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:99: undefined reference to `ath_hal_reverseBits' ar2425.o(.text+0xb4c):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:113: undefined reference to `ath_hal_reverseBits' ar2425.o(.text+0xb62):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:115: undefined reference to `ath_hal_reverseBits' ar2425.o(.text+0xbba):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:117: undefined reference to `ath_hal_reverseBits' ar2425.o(.text+0xbd0):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:119: undefined reference to `ath_hal_reverseBits' ar2425.o(.text+0xc21):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal/ar5212/ar2425.c:121: more undefined references to `ath_hal_reverseBits' follow sample.o(.text+0x404): In function `ath_rate_sysctl_stats': /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:916: undefined reference to `ieee80211_iterate_nodes' sample.o(.text+0x539): In function `calc_usecs_unicast_packet': /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.h:236: undefined reference to `ath_hal_computetxtime' sample.o(.text+0x5b5):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.h:246: undefined reference to `ath_hal_computetxtime' sample.o(.text+0x745): In function `ath_rate_newassoc': /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:771: undefined reference to `ieee80211_note_mac' sample.o(.text+0x7ea):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:801: undefined reference to `ieee80211_note' sample.o(.text+0xcec): In function `update_stats': /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:530: undefined reference to `ieee80211_note_mac' sample.o(.text+0x1040): In function `ath_rate_findrate': /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:273: undefined reference to `ieee80211_note_mac' sample.o(.text+0x1216):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:316: undefined reference to `ieee80211_note_mac' sample.o(.text+0x160c): In function `ath_rate_tx_complete': /usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:572: undefined reference to `ieee80211_note_mac' sample.o(.text+0x16e3):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:590: undefined reference to `ieee80211_note_mac' sample.o(.text+0x18bc):/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_rate/sample/sample.c:636: more undefined references to `ieee80211_note_mac' follow *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PCBSD1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src.* I ran "config", and no problem were find. When I build a GENERIC kernel, there's no any problem. Here the uname -a: *FreeBSD pcbsd-8040 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Tue Jan 5 16:02:27 UTC 2010 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 * Here the kernel config file: *# # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the config(5) manual page, # and/or the handbook section on Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files. # If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first # in NOTES. # # $FreeBSD$ cpu I686_CPU ident PCBSD1 # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. # Use the following to compile in values accessible to the kernel # through getenv() (or kenv(1) in userland). The format of the file # is 'variable=value', see kenv(1) # # env "GENERIC.env" makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options SCTP # Stream Control Transmission Protocol options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options UFS_GJOURNAL # Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFSLOCKD # Network Lock Manager options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization options COMPAT_43TTY # BSD 4.3 TTY compat (sgtty) options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 options COMPAT_FREEBSD7 # Compatible with FreeBSD7 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options STACK # stack(9) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B_SEMAPHORES # POSIX-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128 # Prevent printf output being interspersed. options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options HWPMC_HOOKS # Necessary kernel hooks for hwpmc(4) options AUDIT # Security event auditing options MAC # TrustedBSD MAC Framework options FLOWTABLE # per-cpu routing cache #options KDTRACE_HOOKS # Kernel DTrace hooks # Enable i386 a.out binary support options COMPAT_AOUT # To make an SMP kernel, the next two lines are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel device apic # I/O APIC # CPU frequency control device cpufreq # Bus support. device acpi device pci ############################## # MCA bus: # # The MCA bus device is `mca'. It provides auto-detection and # configuration support for all devices on the MCA bus. # No hints are required for MCA. #device mca # Mca Bus only in old ibm pc and some servers # SMB bus # # System Management Bus support is provided by the 'smbus' device. # Access to the SMBus device is via the 'smb' device (/dev/smb*), # which is a child of the 'smbus' device. # # Supported devices: # smb standard I/O through /dev/smb* # # Supported SMB interfaces: # iicsmb I2C to SMB bridge with any iicbus interface # bktr brooktree848 I2C hardware interface # intpm Intel PIIX4 (82371AB, 82443MX) Power Management Unit # alpm Acer Aladdin-IV/V/Pro2 Power Management Unit # ichsmb Intel ICH SMBus controller chips (82801AA, 82801AB, 82801BA) # viapm VIA VT82C586B/596B/686A and VT8233 Power Management Unit # amdpm AMD 756 Power Management Unit # amdsmb AMD 8111 SMBus 2.0 Controller # nfpm NVIDIA nForce Power Management Unit # nfsmb NVIDIA nForce2/3/4 MCP SMBus 2.0 Controller # device smbus # Bus support, required for smb below. device ichsmb device smb ############################# ##################### BIOS device smbios # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard ################# # Options for atkbd: options ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP # specify the built-in keymap makeoptions ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP=fr.iso.acc #################### device psm # PS/2 mouse device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc ################### options VESA options SC_PIXEL_MODE options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=800 # number of history buffer lines device dpms options SC_TWOBUTTON_MOUSE ######## device agp # support several AGP chipsets ################# CONSOLE UTF8 options TEKEN_UTF8 options TEKEN_XTERM ##################################### device drm # DRM core module required by DRM drivers device i915drm # Intel i830 through i915 #################################### # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support #device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge #device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus #device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. #device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' #device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards # Wireless NIC cards options IEEE80211_DEBUG # enable debug msgs options IEEE80211_AMPDU_AGE # age frames in AMPDU reorder q's options IEEE80211_SUPPORT_MESH # enable 802.11s draft support #device ath_hal # pci/cardbus chip support options AH_SUPPORT_AR5416 # enable AR5416 tx/rx descriptors device ath_rf2425 device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # BSD-style compatibility pseudo ttys device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) device firmware # firmware assist module # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) device ukbd # Keyboard device ums # Mouse device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player # Modules makeoptions MODULES_OVERRIDE="msdosfs msdosfs_iconv ntfs ntfs_iconv tmpfs zfs udf udf_iconv usb/umass cd9660 cd9660_iconv hptrr linux linprocfs linsysfs /ata/atapicd dc sound/sound sound/driver/hda speaker ahci usb/uhid usb/ulpt ipfw wlan wlan_wep wlan_tkip wlan_ccmp wlan_amrr crypto ath if_lagg tx nullfs splash /syscons/blank /syscons/dragon /syscons/fade /syscons/green /syscons/logo /syscons/rain /syscons/snake /syscons/star /syscons/warp libmchain libiconv zlib opensolaris geom/geom_eli geom/geom_journal geom/geom_mirror geom/geom_uzip" * Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 07:52:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DF6106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12B78FC0C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:52:48 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQFAOPIv0t20oy9/2dsb2JhbACPcotQcrgvhQoEgyI Received: from ppp118-210-140-189.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([118.210.140.189]) by ipmail04.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 10 Apr 2010 17:22:45 +0930 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:22:43 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004101722.43972.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: ACPI? problem with release 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:52:49 -0000 My machine had two SATA 300GB drives (WDC WD3200KS-00PFB0 21.00M21) one carrying FreeBSD RELEASE-6.3 and the other RELEASE-7.0 all of which worked OK. Recently added SATA 1TB (WDC WD10EADS-00P8B0 01.00A01) and installed RELEASE 8.0 thereon. When I boot to RELEASE 8.0 I find after some time, few minutes to rather more minutes the system just powers down without warning or any obvious cause. It seems to mostly happen when the system is relatively quiet. Suspecting the ACPI I added: hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 to loader.conf. I then found RELEASE 8.0 would not boot -- or at least it was unable to mount root. I get a "mountroot>" prompt but this seemed not to accept anything I could think of, and "?" to list available targets yielded nothing. Rebooting and overriding this with option 2 (enable ACPI) in the boot menu took me back to a bootable but fragile system. Changing the loader.conf entry to: debug.acpi.disabled=all had the same effect as the hint.acpi.0.disabled=1. I then thought to be somewhat selective with debug.acpi.disabled and intended to try: debug.acpi.disabled=acad button cpu lid thermal timer video only now as I write this I discover I actually entered: debug.acpi.disabled=acadbutton cpu lid thermal timer video Now the RELEASE-8.0 booted but remained fragile. I've repaired this last entry and will proceed to try it. Meanwhile I feel I am fumbling about in the dark without sufficient (or any real) knowledge of the range of tasks performed by ACPI. Is my guess that I have an interaction problem between ACPI and RELEASE-8.0 a reasonable one? Where can I go from here? The system uses a Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4 mother board and the prcessor is AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ Please offer suggestions or comments. Malcolm Kay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 09:07:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26B6106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A5A8FC12 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o3A97IWF058057; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:07:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:07:18 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <4bbfdb91.TJ1v3uRXSquSIsC4%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: <20100410185144.N52200@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100408234803.7519B1065770@hub.freebsd.org> <20100409160704.K52200@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4bbfdb91.TJ1v3uRXSquSIsC4%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Config for NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:07:21 -0000 On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html > > > > This is absolutely the worst section of an otherwise great > > handbook ... Nothing short of a rewrite from scratch could > > fix it ... > > As always, I'm sure a patch -- to provide that rewrite -- > would be welcome. You're quite right, of course. It's a huge job, and I'm not sure I can do it; just picked up the latest chapter.sgml for another look. I know I should STFU or fix it, but I can't help at least warning people who, unless they're at least familiar with ipfw(8), are going to be either put off or - in my view - misled or confused. I'll see if I can't come up with at least some updates and corrections. Thanks for the kick :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 10:19:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516CC106566C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85D98FC18 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A20329608DC89FD; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:19:34 +0100 Message-ID: <4BC050B6.3000001@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:19:34 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091212) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Programmer In Training References: <4BBE8DB1.8040905@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBE9470.1040607@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBEB5BC.3000509@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4bbedc81.G0j71lonOCUqR/vZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4BBF2674.6080402@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF727D.6000407@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBF93E8.4080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4BBFB8D3.2090708@onetel.com> <4BBFBB25.8000208@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: <4BBFBB25.8000208@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Powered Speakers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:19:39 -0000 Programmer In Training wrote: > On 04/09/10 18:31, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > >> Unless you insist on an operating system solution what you are really >> after is a 5 volt supply. What about buying a mains USB charger of the >> right capacity, or if you are handy with bits of wire have a look > > I wouldn't know where to look for one. Google mains USB charger :) > >> through all those old power supplies for a 5 volt one? Most households build up a store of old power supplies from defunct or lost equipment. Or even use the 5 >> volt supply from inside your computer (if it is a desktop not laptop) >> >> Chris > > It is a desktop. There is a 5V supply in there?! > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_supply_unit_%28computer%29#Connectors Only go this way if you know what you are doing... Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 10:34:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C41106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DB48FC2A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0Y1M-0007EY-FP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:34:36 +0200 Received: from ppp85-140-193-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru ([85.140.193.240]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:34:36 +0200 Received: from citrin by ppp85-140-193-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:34:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Yuzhaninov Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:34:26 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Vega Lines: 17 Sender: Message-ID: References: <4BBFB4E8.9010304@comclark.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp85-140-193-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru X-Comment-To: Aiza User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (Linux/2.6.31-gentoo-r6 (i686)) Subject: Re: perl links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:34:40 -0000 On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:14:48 +0800, Aiza wrote: A> When installing perl i see 2 links between /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin. A> Is this still required or is it something left over from when perl was A> part of the base system? A> A> symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl A> symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.9 and /usr/bin/perl5 most perl scripts begins with #!/usr/bin/perl this is common convention (also outside *BSD world) -- WBR, Anton Yuzhaninov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 06:35:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96967106566B for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jt202@gci.net) Received: from msgmmp-1.gci.net (msgmmp-1.gci.net [209.165.130.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757CC8FC17 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jt101 ([24.237.137.143]) by msgmmp-1.gci.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.03 (built Jun 27 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0L0N00EF6BH2RI30@msgmmp-1.gci.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:34:15 -0800 (AKDT) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:34:59 -0800 From: jt Sender: jt202@gci.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:15:50 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Online school for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:35:12 -0000 I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated, I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good. My goal is simply this. I want to open a small business, A server, To lease out web space, domains, etc etc. I want to start small and possibly expand to a rack of servers and so on. I've been searching all say and cannot find ANY online schools that teach FreeBSD. From what I understand, FreeBSD is the best for security and control. I'll be leasing out shell space too so I need security like sh3lls.net. A company like that is eventually what Id like to accomplish. But I need to know the ground up. I don't want to trust an employee with root access to my server. I remember seeing a book out there specific to what I'm trying to do. Anyway, I hope you can hook me up with a school. Or the proper books anyway. FreeBSD for dummies or something. You guys do excellent work. I hope not only to learn but someday contribute back to the freebsd community. Thanks for you're time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 11:27:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B702F106567E for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B34C8FC1C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C68218367; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:27:36 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Anton Yuzhaninov References: <4BBFB4E8.9010304@comclark.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.4.14; tzolkin = 6 Ix; haab = 7 Pop Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:27:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Anton Yuzhaninov's message of "Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:34:26 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <86zl1btumw.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:27:38 -0000 >>>>> "Anton" == Anton Yuzhaninov writes: Anton> most perl scripts begins with Anton> #!/usr/bin/perl Anton> this is common convention (also outside *BSD world) In fact, it's the recommendation from the original Camel book in 1990 (which I wrote, but the kids forget that :) that no matter where you install Perl, you always link/symlink /usr/bin/perl so that scripts can safely use shebang. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 13:38:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449A11065672 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:38:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D758FC2A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:38:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Apr 2010 09:38:45 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id LNK80293; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:38:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Apr 2010 09:38:07 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19392.32574.818270.308310@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:38:06 -0400 To: jt In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Online school for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:38:46 -0000 jt writes: > I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've > been trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting > complicated, I get stuck. The handbook don't do a lot of good. > > My goal is simply this. I want to open a small business, A server, > To lease out web space, domains, etc etc. I want to start small and > possibly expand to a rack of servers and so on. While there is applicable information, based on your description I do not believe this is a job the Handbook was ever intended to address. > I've been searching all say and cannot find ANY online schools that > teach FreeBSD. From what I understand, FreeBSD is the best for > security and control. I'll be leasing out shell space too so I need > security like sh3lls.net. A company like that is eventually what Id > like to accomplish. But I need to know the ground up. I don't want > to trust an employee with root access to my server. What is there in what you want to do that is specific to FreeBSD? Based on an uninformed guess, it sounds like 90+ percent of these tasks are UNIX-generic; what's left could easily vary with your unique case and might be best handled to questions to targeted mailing lists. > I remember seeing a book out there specific to what I'm trying to > do. However, if someone _has_ done this having that on the record would be nice. > You guys do excellent work. I hope not only to learn but someday > contribute back to the freebsd community. See? You have already. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 14:13:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6A7106566C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lin_g@o2.pl) Received: from tur.go2.pl (tur.go2.pl [193.17.41.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717908FC19 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rekin23.go2.pl (rekin23.go2.pl [193.17.41.16]) by tur.go2.pl (o2.pl Mailer 2.0.1) with ESMTP id A103523048A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:41:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rekin23.go2.pl (rekin23 [127.0.0.1]) by rekin23.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9EE128BCF for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:41:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.42]) by rekin23.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:41:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from riviera.nat.student.pw.edu.pl [194.29.137.1] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id ArKKKf; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:41:54 +0200 Message-ID: <4BC0800D.9030407@o2.pl> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:41:33 +0200 From: Grzegorz Daniluk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-O2-Trust: 2, 61 X-O2-SPF: neutral Subject: reliable rs-232 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:13:48 -0000 Hi everybody, I have a question regarding rs-232 under FreeBSD. I need to write an application for FreeBSD to operate an industrial controller via rs-232. The trick is that it should have very good long term stability (reliably operation over years). It should be able to detect and correct (e.g by reconfiguration of rs-232 port parameters) when rs-232 hangs or changes its transmission parameters as a result of electrical interference/disturbances etc. First thought is to simply close and reopen rs-232 port every given time interval, so even if something 'strange' happens the failure would be fixed after finite time period. But maybe there is smarter way of doing that. Maybe some special fault-tolerant rs-232 kernel drivers ? Any help appreciated, maybe someone has other helpful advieces regarding reliable rs-232 programming ini general ? Thanks for all help and advices. Best regards, Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 14:39:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA872106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail3.networktest.com (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8495F8FC22 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [69.55.234.60]) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD196958D9 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.networktest.com ([69.55.234.60]) by localhost (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.60]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92579-02 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from levi.local (cpe-76-83-7-25.socal.res.rr.com [76.83.7.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CE4D958B5 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BC08D92.1030908@networktest.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:39:14 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: php5-filter update fails; possible pcre issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:39:17 -0000 8.0-RELEASE, amd64 Running 'portmaster -a' fails to upgrade php5-filter-5.2.12 to php5-filter-5.3.2. Error output below. I would be grateful for clues on a fix. Is this related to the php5-pcre port being moved into core php5? somehost# cd /usr/ports somehost# make search name=php5-pcre Port: devel/php5-pcre Moved: lang/php5 Date: 2010-04-09 Reason: Bundled in core php thanks dn error output during 'portmaster -a' for php5-filter: In file included from /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:25: /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:29:18: error: pcre.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:25: /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:37: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:38: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:44: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'pcre' /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c: In function 'php_filter_validate_regexp': /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: error: 'pcre' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: error: for each function it appears in.) /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: error: 're' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:413: error: 'pcre_extra' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c: In function 'php_filter_validate_email': /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:500: error: 'pcre' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:500: error: 're' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:501: error: 'pcre_extra' undeclared (first use in this function) *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/php5-filter. ===>>> make failed for security/php5-filter ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> Update for php5-filter-5.2.12 failed ===>>> Aborting update From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 14:54:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C38106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walterk1@earthlink.net) Received: from pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A2E8FC18 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from user-0c6sn0e.cable.mindspring.com ([24.110.92.14] helo=[192.168.0.100]) by pop-borzoi.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1O0c4p-0005MW-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:54:27 -0400 Message-ID: <4BC0911E.2090703@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:54:22 -0500 From: Walter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: host & dig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:54:28 -0000 A previous question to the List on how to get an IP address from a host speicific URL yielded the helpful responses of "host" and "dig." These (seemed to) work fine. Well, just now I got a chance to try it out on a tiny server I have at someone else's house, and on another network. I used telnet to connect to 68.204.xxx.xxx it tells me I've connected to xxx.xxx.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com. (backwards, right?), then I log in. After user/pass entry, it says connected from "user-yyyyyyy.cab" (replaced seemingly random name with "yyyyyyy" in case it's not transient) My external IP here is 24.110.nnn.nnn The issue: When I use either "host" or "dig" to give me the IP address from "user-yyyyyyy.cab", they tell me: 208.68.zzz.zzz (Ping gives the same.) So, I'm still at a loss, I think, to know the originating IP. Should a firewall rule blocking 208.68.zzz.zzz actually operate against 24.110.nnn.nnn? I'd STILL like to know the true source IP to be able to connect back to it. TIA. Again, please respond directly to me (as well as to the List) because I'm not subscribed. Walter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 15:17:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD7C106566C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kieran@datadream.co.uk) Received: from mail.datadream.co.uk (mail.datadream.co.uk [81.94.203.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D798FC1D for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.datadream.co.uk (mail.datadream.co.uk [81.94.203.243]) by mail.datadream.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E4D399F1; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:59:20 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at datadream.co.uk Received: from mail.datadream.co.uk ([81.94.203.243]) by mail.datadream.co.uk (mail.datadream.co.uk [81.94.203.243]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bruGuZBpIP78; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:59:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.115.199] (redback.datadream.co.uk [82.152.56.113]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: kieran@datadream.co.uk) by mail.datadream.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0E92399DB; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:59:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4BC09243.8060700@datadream.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:59:15 +0100 From: Kieran Black User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BC08D92.1030908@networktest.com> In-Reply-To: <4BC08D92.1030908@networktest.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dnewman@networktest.com Subject: Re: php5-filter update fails; possible pcre issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:17:36 -0000 According to /usr/ports/MOVED php5-filter is now also part of core php5 host# grep "php5-filter" /usr/ports/MOVED security/pecl-filter|security/php5-filter|2008-12-11|Now bundled in php5 Kieran On 10/04/2010 15:39, David Newman wrote: > 8.0-RELEASE, amd64 > > Running 'portmaster -a' fails to upgrade php5-filter-5.2.12 to > php5-filter-5.3.2. Error output below. > > I would be grateful for clues on a fix. > > Is this related to the php5-pcre port being moved into core php5? > > somehost# cd /usr/ports > somehost# make search name=php5-pcre > Port: devel/php5-pcre > Moved: lang/php5 > Date: 2010-04-09 > Reason: Bundled in core php > > thanks > > dn > > error output during 'portmaster -a' for php5-filter: > > In file included from > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:25: > /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:29:18: error: pcre.h: No such > file or directory > In file included from > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:25: > /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:37: error: expected '=', ',', > ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token > /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:38: error: expected '=', ',', > ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token > /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:44: error: expected > specifier-qualifier-list before 'pcre' > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c: > In function 'php_filter_validate_regexp': > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: > error: 'pcre' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: > error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: > error: for each function it appears in.) > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: > error: 're' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:413: > error: 'pcre_extra' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c: > In function 'php_filter_validate_email': > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:500: > error: 'pcre' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:500: > error: 're' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:501: > error: 'pcre_extra' undeclared (first use in this function) > *** Error code 1 > 1 error > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/php5-filter. > > ===>>> make failed for security/php5-filter > ===>>> Aborting update > > ===>>> Update for php5-filter-5.2.12 failed > ===>>> Aborting update > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 15:19:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5AD1065674 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6418FC1B for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o3AFJccj039355 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:19:38 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100410151842.GA99692@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Subject: are the are C [or C++] src sites .... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:19:42 -0000 Sites of parts of websites that have example C functions? [continuing from the ^Subject. I have googled around and found practically nothing; yet, wen I was looking for a math function I found at least two places. Rather than re-inventing the wheel over and again, wouldn't it be nice to have a library of all kinds of functions? --For kernel use, yes, they would need to be BSD specific... ideas? gary PS: As if it weren't obvious, no i haven't had my morning jolt of java yet.... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 15:35:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B681106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail3.networktest.com (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252FD8FC16 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [69.55.234.60]) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2F0958D9 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.networktest.com ([69.55.234.60]) by localhost (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.60]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17266-09 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from levi.local (cpe-76-83-7-25.socal.res.rr.com [76.83.7.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A14E958B5 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BC09AC8.1070501@networktest.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:35:36 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BC08D92.1030908@networktest.com> <4BC09243.8060700@datadream.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4BC09243.8060700@datadream.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: php5-filter update fails; possible pcre issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:35:38 -0000 On 4/10/10 7:59 AM, Kieran Black wrote: > According to /usr/ports/MOVED php5-filter is now also part of core php5 > > host# grep "php5-filter" /usr/ports/MOVED > security/pecl-filter|security/php5-filter|2008-12-11|Now bundled in php5 Thanks. Obvious question, but just checking: Would uninstalling php5-filter and php5-pcre (if installed) and then proceeding with updating all other php5 ports have the same effect as updating these ports as if they were standalone, as before? dn > > Kieran > > On 10/04/2010 15:39, David Newman wrote: >> 8.0-RELEASE, amd64 >> >> Running 'portmaster -a' fails to upgrade php5-filter-5.2.12 to >> php5-filter-5.3.2. Error output below. >> >> I would be grateful for clues on a fix. >> >> Is this related to the php5-pcre port being moved into core php5? >> >> somehost# cd /usr/ports >> somehost# make search name=php5-pcre >> Port: devel/php5-pcre >> Moved: lang/php5 >> Date: 2010-04-09 >> Reason: Bundled in core php >> >> thanks >> >> dn >> >> error output during 'portmaster -a' for php5-filter: >> >> In file included from >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:25: >> >> /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:29:18: error: pcre.h: No such >> file or directory >> In file included from >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:25: >> >> /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:37: error: expected '=', ',', >> ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token >> /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:38: error: expected '=', ',', >> ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '*' token >> /usr/local/include/php/ext/pcre/php_pcre.h:44: error: expected >> specifier-qualifier-list before 'pcre' >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c: >> >> In function 'php_filter_validate_regexp': >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: >> >> error: 'pcre' undeclared (first use in this function) >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: >> >> error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: >> >> error: for each function it appears in.) >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:412: >> >> error: 're' undeclared (first use in this function) >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:413: >> >> error: 'pcre_extra' undeclared (first use in this function) >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c: >> >> In function 'php_filter_validate_email': >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:500: >> >> error: 'pcre' undeclared (first use in this function) >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:500: >> >> error: 're' undeclared (first use in this function) >> /usr/ports/security/php5-filter/work/php-5.3.2/ext/filter/logical_filters.c:501: >> >> error: 'pcre_extra' undeclared (first use in this function) >> *** Error code 1 >> 1 error >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/security/php5-filter. >> >> ===>>> make failed for security/php5-filter >> ===>>> Aborting update >> >> ===>>> Update for php5-filter-5.2.12 failed >> ===>>> Aborting update >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 15:38:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98713106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1340C8FC12 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o3AFcEcB025034; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:38:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B8798BA9C; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:38:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:38:14 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: jt Message-ID: <20100410153814.GA75433@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Online school for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:38:17 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 09:34:59PM -0800, jt wrote: > I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been > trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicate= d, > I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good. Check out http://www.bsdcertification.org/ =20 > My goal is simply this. I want to open a small business, A server, To lea= se > out web space, domains, etc etc. I want to start small and possibly expand > to a rack of servers and so on. If you are new to FreeBSD and other UNIX-like systems, you should not begin= with starting a business! Learn something about the OS first. Install FreeBSD om your computer and experiment with it. Subscribe to the freebsd-questions mailing list and read through the archives of that mailing list. Install and configure typical server programs; apache, bind, postfix, mysql. Learn about jail(8). Do read the handbook, because it does contain a lot of useful information. > I've been searching all say and cannot find ANY online schools that teach > FreeBSD. =20 Personally, I learned first Linux and then FreeBSD by just installing and using them. I think a lot of people start that way. You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ > But I need to know the ground up. I don't want to trust an > employee with root access to my server. If you have a hosting business, clients might expect support 24 hours a day= , 7 days per week. No single person can manage that! Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkvAm2YACgkQEnfvsMMhpyU3eACgruSMD2FyHp6u0loAT+RGprZM 6GIAoJQ3QVNbllsnWe9/DIU1SMKbyqE9 =FRvF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 16:14:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138FE1065670 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.221.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D238FC08 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so3603590qyk.13 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:14:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=93IxpuQ08jrdB4r1NXBtaTo9f75Sl0xrz7X6TYLbPK0=; b=t5VgJOeVKL11Ngj/lpbx1apWWXboE/8lS+KzBTm81u78ieV3usD3dSIEkfUhLm5Bes eIKW6G1i1lmlMVizWkA2jrO4NwiDZAiVS8O9lLxb+0GHxujj4ZhBV/GvSi4z6JN3WLEn CFpD1AjeIpJLwb2Tw8Pn4aDsPsyWoUaspIlz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bOK2aOY1qzoL21GxC48wSEzmYzt5Pn7QV3EMtYNx5/UXDJRXsFN8gdc4r/uT7D82fR 7t6vSXVMy/+9U3s30iwytOIy5wZFHWo+blLz9s1CRAVvsqrAfwvEv6VJOzH3hWi6awKa nhdWu6r78HxrTfPIhjNzxdWBClDoy+/9T/vIY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.147 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:14:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BC0911E.2090703@earthlink.net> References: <4BC0911E.2090703@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:14:30 -0500 Received: by 10.229.190.133 with SMTP id di5mr1649474qcb.23.1270916070096; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Walter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Questions Subject: Re: host & dig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:14:32 -0000 On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Walter wrote: > A previous question to the List on how to get an IP > address from a host speicific URL yielded the helpful > responses of "host" and "dig." These (seemed to) work > fine. Well, just now I got a chance to try it out on a tiny > server I have at someone else's house, and on another > network. > > I used telnet to connect to 68.204.xxx.xxx > it tells me I've connected to xxx.xxx.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com. > (backwards, right?), then I log in. > No, you have to a connection before you login. You want to *strongly* consider using ssh instead of telnet. You may also be referring the format of the DNS query result which known as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_DNS_lookup > > After user/pass entry, it says connected from "user-yyyyyyy.cab" > (replaced seemingly random name with "yyyyyyy" in case > it's not transient) > > My external IP here is 24.110.nnn.nnn > > The issue: > > When I use either "host" or "dig" to give me the IP address > from "user-yyyyyyy.cab", they tell me: 208.68.zzz.zzz > (Ping gives the same.) > > So, I'm still at a loss, I think, to know the originating IP. > Should a firewall rule blocking 208.68.zzz.zzz actually > operate against 24.110.nnn.nnn? I don't understand the question, what is the rule? > I'd STILL like to know the true source IP to be able to connect back to > it. > man sockstat man netstat -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 16:25:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD50D106566B for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608228FC0A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:25:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1G73JCAd+9Vhhx30tk0+Sc/rngIYAy4Ia+6Xn7XSY0k= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ipoArj6GrvOCo6ls3Bny8w==:17 a=MgVMPgwMAAAA:8 a=y_eUXZbpzybpBJz8MakA:9 a=4iuvB9GTNpkp2-t37lcA:7 a=lSXzIYmdm3QZaINxLXAU1SZr3coA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ipoArj6GrvOCo6ls3Bny8w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 72.130.250.48 Received: from [72.130.250.48] ([72.130.250.48:14122] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 3F/A2-15793-D56A0CB4; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:25:02 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (parv [127.0.0.2]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12B45C6C; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:27:05 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o3AGR3FP004713; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:27:03 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:27:03 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Message-ID: <20100410162703.GA1635@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: "Randal L. Schwartz" , Anton Yuzhaninov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBFB4E8.9010304@comclark.com> <86zl1btumw.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86zl1btumw.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Yuzhaninov Subject: Re: perl links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:25:03 -0000 in message <86zl1btumw.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, wrote Randal L. Schwartz thusly... > > >>>>> "Anton" == Anton Yuzhaninov writes: > > > Anton> most perl scripts begins with > > Anton> #!/usr/bin/perl > > Anton> this is common convention (also outside *BSD world) > > In fact, it's the recommendation from the original Camel book in 1990 > (which I wrote, but the kids forget that :) that no matter where you > install Perl, you always link/symlink /usr/bin/perl so that scripts can > safely use shebang. So, you are the guilty one. By that logic, every software should assume some location, so that people can have fun with link farm maintainance. - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 16:26:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD6B106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E348F8FC1A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6792489EC; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:26:33 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Anton Yuzhaninov References: <4BBFB4E8.9010304@comclark.com> <86zl1btumw.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100410162703.GA1635@holstein.holy.cow> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.4.14; tzolkin = 6 Ix; haab = 7 Pop Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:26:33 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20100410162703.GA1635@holstein.holy.cow> (parv@pair.com's message of "Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:27:03 -1000") Message-ID: <86r5mntgsm.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:26:34 -0000 >>>>> "parv" == parv writes: parv> So, you are the guilty one. By that logic, every software should parv> assume some location, so that people can have fun with link farm parv> maintainance. Keep in mind, the scene has changed in 20 years. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 16:54:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A5A1065673 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496A98FC14 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (ppp-88-217-16-114.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.16.114]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 30FB71C0871 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BC0AD32.1030605@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:54:10 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Syslog to log remote nodes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:54:14 -0000 Hi: I want my syslog to log remote nodes, in particular my access point and router, which authenticates users against my freeradius server. In /etc/rc.conf I've got: syslogd_flags="-C -a 192.168.0.0/23 -a 172.16.0.0/23 -vv" In /etc/syslog.conf I've got first the entries for the system, no networked clients specified, ... local0.* /var/log/radius.log ... # Remote systems +172.16.0.0/23 *.info /var/log/wlan.log +192.168.0.254 *.info /var/log/router.log Surprise, I've got my access point logs in the radius log file, not in the wlan.log, snip radius.log: Apr 10 17:54:15 ap airport 80211: Rotated TKIP group key. Apr 10 18:02:19 ap airport ntp: Clock synchronized to network time server ntp.locolomo.org (adjusted -1 seconds). Apr 10 18:43:11 alpha radiusd[79800]: Loaded virtual server inner-tunnel Apr 10 18:43:11 alpha radiusd[79800]: Loaded virtual server The "ap" is the access point. I haven't got anything in router.log and can't really figure where it has ended up. What's wrong with my syslog.conf? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 17:42:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECFE106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E8E8FC18 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.143] (helo=smtp12.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0ehT-0004UB-77 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:42:31 +0200 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp12.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0ehQ-0001lu-4L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:42:28 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8353983C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:42:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BC0B883.2090403@boosten.org> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:42:27 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BC0AD32.1030605@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4BC0AD32.1030605@locolomo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1O0ehQ-0001lu-4L X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.241, vereist 5, BAYES_20 -0.74, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Syslog to log remote nodes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:42:33 -0000 On 10-4-2010 18:54, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Hi: > > I want my syslog to log remote nodes, in particular my access point and > router, which authenticates users against my freeradius server. > > In /etc/rc.conf I've got: > syslogd_flags="-C -a 192.168.0.0/23 -a 172.16.0.0/23 -vv" > > In /etc/syslog.conf I've got first the entries for the system, no > networked clients specified, > > ... > local0.* /var/log/radius.log > ... > # Remote systems > +172.16.0.0/23 > *.info /var/log/wlan.log > +192.168.0.254 > *.info /var/log/router.log > > Surprise, I've got my access point logs in the radius log file, not in > the wlan.log, > > snip radius.log: > > Apr 10 17:54:15 ap airport 80211: Rotated TKIP group key. > Apr 10 18:02:19 ap airport ntp: Clock synchronized to > network time server ntp.locolomo.org (adjusted -1 seconds). > Apr 10 18:43:11 alpha radiusd[79800]: Loaded virtual > server inner-tunnel > Apr 10 18:43:11 alpha radiusd[79800]: Loaded virtual > server > > The "ap" is the access point. > > I haven't got anything in router.log and can't really figure where it > has ended up. > > What's wrong with my syslog.conf? > I tried once the same setup, but never got it working. I ended up switching to syslog-ng (I know, probably not the answer you're looking for, but with syslog-ng you can configure the way you want it to be). Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 18:05:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9EC106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FA08FC12 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3tHS1e0091bwxycACu5wET; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:05:56 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3uAX1e00a1f6R9u8euAYjc; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:10:33 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:05:53 -0700 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:05:52 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100410180552.GH61756@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4BBFB4E8.9010304@comclark.com> <86zl1btumw.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100410162703.GA1635@holstein.holy.cow> <86r5mntgsm.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86r5mntgsm.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: perl links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:05:56 -0000 On Sat 10 Apr 2010 at 09:26:33 PDT Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "parv" == parv writes: > >parv> So, you are the guilty one. By that logic, every software should >parv> assume some location, so that people can have fun with link farm >parv> maintainance. > >Keep in mind, the scene has changed in 20 years. :) Has your advice on this point also changed? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 18:36:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C17106566B for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B2D548FC12 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32346 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2010 18:36:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2010 18:36:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=XBM90VmBgCA8dm4VBYnlio4vEku9I5OmkoIZK+0r6kVbT2d0UHsy1OH5EUshV5Qa99JWqYSX5OTzt1JAS7qLLxvCYHw0CaD12BbGt7dewqjsnarblWEeLXEgT8Zi3QeQ; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0fY0-00077p-Lj for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:36:49 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:35:53 -0600 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:35:53 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100410173553.GA9561@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20100410151842.GA99692@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100410151842.GA99692@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: are the are C [or C++] src sites .... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:36:51 -0000 --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 08:19:38AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: >=20 > Sites of parts of websites that have example C functions? > [continuing from the ^Subject. =20 >=20 > I have googled around and found practically nothing; yet, wen > I was looking for a math function I found at least two > places. >=20 > Rather than re-inventing the wheel over and again, wouldn't > it be nice to have a library of all kinds of functions? > --For kernel use, yes, they would need to be BSD specific... >=20 > ideas? >=20 > gary >=20 > PS: As if it weren't obvious, no i haven't had my morning > jolt of java yet.... I suspect there are quite a few examples of BSD-specific C functions *in* the FreeBSD kernel. I'm pretty sure this isn't what you meant, though, so please clarify. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkvAtvkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVKsACeMMpQdsoy12TlVqpHVbqwxbRP 7ssAnRdvvnBWvj6FCMwjMec+MKiwKPvT =XpEi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 18:39:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791C7106566B for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from doppler.zen.co.uk (doppler.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404978FC0A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:39:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.23.3.140] (helo=smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk) by doppler.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O0fKS-0004Vy-18 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:22:48 +0000 Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O0fKP-0008Nh-Qt; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:22:46 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:22:46 +0100 From: S Roberts To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100410192246.00002af3@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: Subject: Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN Supported on FreeBSD-8.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:39:25 -0000 Hello, The wireless nic on my laptop is the Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN. Is this card supported in FreeBSD as present? I checked the FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE Hardware Notes (at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), and I don't see the Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN actually listed. Looking at the online manpage for iwn, it is actually titled "Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN IEEE 802.11n driver", but then again, I also noted that that manpage is timestamped April 13, 2008 and is tagged for FreeBSD-7.2. I'd some help, please. Thanks. Regards, S Roberts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 18:52:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A954E106566C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B548FC12 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o3AIqS7I091161 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4BC0C8EC.4030309@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:52:28 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100322) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Does sparc64 version of FreeBSD work on SPARCbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:52:29 -0000 I always wanted to try sparc. But did anyone try running it on a laptop or I better stick with workstation? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 18:53:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1850E1065677 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (mailhost.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.32.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C640E8FC2A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E025B90262; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:53:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by University of Hamburg (RRZ/mailhost) Received: from mailhost.uni-hamburg.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhost.uni-hamburg.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bzsbIK5hUQKY; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:53:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.178.31] (e177251072.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.177.251.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: fmjv004) by mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9143B9025B; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:53:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BC0C914.8070807@janh.de> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:53:08 +0200 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100331 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: S Roberts References: <20100410192246.00002af3@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100410192246.00002af3@unknown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN Supported on FreeBSD-8.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:53:16 -0000 On 01/-10/-28163 20:59, S Roberts wrote: > The wireless nic on my laptop is the Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN. Is this card supported in FreeBSD as present? Support for that device got MFCed to 8-STABLE a short time after 8.0-RELEASE. Cheers, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 18:55:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A241106564A; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2A48FC13; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O0fpg-00073A-To; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:55:05 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:55:05 +0100 From: S Roberts To: "O.Herold" Message-ID: <20100410195505.000011fc@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100410203527.00002c45@unknown> References: <20100410192246.00002af3@unknown> <20100410203527.00002c45@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN Supported on FreeBSD-8.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:55:06 -0000 Hello Oliver, Thanks for the response. On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:35:27 +0200 "O.Herold" wrote: > Am Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:22:46 +0100 > schrieb S Roberts : > > > Hello, > > The wireless nic on my laptop is the Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN. > > Is this card supported in FreeBSD as present? > > > > I checked the FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE Hardware Notes (at > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), and I > > don't see the Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN actually listed. > > > > Looking at the online manpage for iwn, it is actually titled "Intel > > Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN IEEE 802.11n driver", but then again, I > > also noted that that manpage is timestamped April 13, 2008 and is > > tagged for FreeBSD-7.2. > > > > I'd some help, please. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > > > S Roberts > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > You have to use 8-stable, then you get support for this kind of > adapter. > Understood - install 8-REL, the cvsup to 8-Stable. Thanks again. Regards, S Roberts > Cheers, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 19:14:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E00106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC188FC19 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1807344bwz.3 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:14:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.135.219 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:14:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.44.65] In-Reply-To: <20100410151842.GA99692@thought.org> References: <20100410151842.GA99692@thought.org> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:14:25 +0200 Received: by 10.204.74.77 with SMTP id t13mr1982248bkj.7.1270926865713; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: are the are C [or C++] src sites .... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:14:27 -0000 On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > Rather than re-inventing the wheel over and again, wouldn't > it be nice to have a library of all kinds of functions? > --For kernel use, yes, they would need to be BSD specific... > Not sure what you're meaning here, but the collection of libraries in FreeBSD's source tree (/usr/src/lib) contains A LOT of C functions that you could use as examples... For instance, if you're looking for those typical C functions of the C library that are often used in introductory texts, you want to look at libc, e.g. in: /usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib /usr/src/lib/libc/string /usr/src/lib/libc/gen (...) Then, there are also non-library source files all over /usr/src, that are full of C functions. ;-) Of course, you could always install additional third-party libraries, programs etc. manually or from ports if you need more examples. ideas? > What are you trying to achieve? gary > > PS: As if it weren't obvious, no i haven't had my morning > jolt of java yet.... > Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 19:14:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1E61065723 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:14:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A268FC1A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bw0-f216.google.com with SMTP id 8so1807344bwz.3 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:14:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0vfRONUAF3MRqywZ5GH306MCv7x4cCVgMVWDoWnW1nU=; b=g7ceoVsQjRtkVh9wju2rKETW0BN5hSwh37TXCYpFUKeC+HO2ykEXouAglW/wBhE30i 6Q/a9XiRBN6kyfXFlBplx0vZZWAIoShHXlw3BfgDcPamdhgz3Rsv95HaqldSEFHOybn4 8nFmqFcD/nYvR0ElREAvrAXGStVD2bdX8Us7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cBkz/+wzItRQ2uVRu+EJ2FE7bn9IGqWjakoIPaRpsIgUJkxqEG231Su4U5BUSxS3h6 SMaYpmm9/bIeDI6zx/enrThNcgJMtdFvlVQyw/RYDx/acKwpsiqLoml0vN6OVKNn/1s4 AjUgzQuDZ3Myub10fCHnvUIl7g7+WCxAWYmbY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.102.7 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:14:38 +0300 Received: by 10.204.131.80 with SMTP id w16mr2008703bks.35.1270926878447; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Nethogs or similar for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:14:40 -0000 Is there something like Nethogs for FreeBSD that would show bandwidth use broken down by PID, user and such in a convinient easy to view and understand fashion? http://nethogs.sourceforge.net/nethogs.png - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 19:44:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33870106566B for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:44:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D418FC16 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:44:40 -0400 References: Message-Id: <9CF6DFA5-91D3-4702-A395-58E32A2056FC@olivent.com> From: mikel king To: Dan Naumov In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:44:38 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nethogs or similar for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:44:46 -0000 On Apr 10, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Dan Naumov wrote: > Is there something like Nethogs for FreeBSD that would show bandwidth > use broken down by PID, user and such in a convinient easy to view and > understand fashion? > > http://nethogs.sourceforge.net/nethogs.png > > > - Sincerely, > Dan Naumov Looks interesting, and pretty light weight only requiring ncurses and libpcap. I wonder how hard it'd be to compile it and get it running. What version of FreeBSD are you running? Cheers, Mikel King CEO, Olivent Technologies Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine skype:mikel.king http://olivent.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelking http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 19:45:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B30A1065672 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F0A8FC12 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3vLK1e00F1wfjNsACvlKnr; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:45:19 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3vlJ1e0011f6R9u8jvlJjo; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:45:19 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:45:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:45:15 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100410194515.GA96745@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100410151842.GA99692@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100410151842.GA99692@thought.org> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: are the are C [or C++] src sites .... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:45:19 -0000 On Sat 10 Apr 2010 at 08:19:38 PDT Gary Kline wrote: > > Sites of parts of websites that have example C functions? > [continuing from the ^Subject. > > I have googled around and found practically nothing; yet, wen > I was looking for a math function I found at least two > places. > > Rather than re-inventing the wheel over and again, wouldn't > it be nice to have a library of all kinds of functions? > --For kernel use, yes, they would need to be BSD specific... > > ideas? > > gary > > PS: As if it weren't obvious, no i haven't had my morning jolt of > java yet.... Did you try googling for "sample code"? I just did, and the results contained several such websites. Narrowing the search to "sample code c" or "sample code unix" yielded even better results. There are even some sites that you can use to search the vast body of existing open-source code, to see how others have used (or implemented) a given API. No, I'm not going to name any specific sites. You now have enough of a hint to find them on your own. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 20:14:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBE0106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298618FC12 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1830825bwz.3 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:14:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1NpxOl9Crixe3FQqGY+tIMY8F8GK73BQYJvDN0GpVRk=; b=vi2kgCJhqHs7DFOM04n8690KivDcNXcyFrm0SaWypW1/mCWUtoZpXtFrmeDhzZSCP2 YY1cNkFFz+3raXF8M1Nre2J15jOWsZ0U8sMM+VW0Eovbc3UwWS66SOrUVplPXrXu/Hqu 8qB6WSyuF77s3DVqoLoq6jJD4A95eocMY0y5Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=TDEl/W3XP+f1kcN/6V6phuZ9PSmsbvPq/9rgTvw6A7/YQNCekNuPzlTJt/5kNMj7A4 34UzjNgYMhRsgVwOso2qSo/m15DeCQe0plqZQHgYJUQCczam1xIqws/hotXCQcmxy3lN MicEq93aFsl9sIP0Hi6kAtTO9rIOYBXwLy9Zw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.102.7 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:14:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9CF6DFA5-91D3-4702-A395-58E32A2056FC@olivent.com> References: <9CF6DFA5-91D3-4702-A395-58E32A2056FC@olivent.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:14:43 +0300 Received: by 10.204.82.36 with SMTP id z36mr2075104bkk.88.1270930483899; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: mikel king Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nethogs or similar for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:14:49 -0000 On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 10:44 PM, mikel king wrote: > > On Apr 10, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Dan Naumov wrote: > > Is there something like Nethogs for FreeBSD that would show bandwidth > use broken down by PID, user and such in a convinient easy to view and > understand fashion? > > http://nethogs.sourceforge.net/nethogs.png > > > - Sincerely, > Dan Naumov > > Looks interesting, and pretty light weight only requiring ncurses and > libpcap. I wonder how hard it'd be to compile it and get it running. > What version of FreeBSD are you running? > Cheers, > Mikel King I am on 8.0/amd64. From the website of Nethogs: "Since NetHogs heavily relies on /proc, it currently runs on Linux only." - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 21:41:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA770106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.221.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DCB8FC08 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so3744641qyk.13 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:41:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/F+VVf7l2bHu/mRXSDO0mSm8ZXYsW1fqUytpDE0syAY=; b=QxOrRCd7bu841y8kEjWpgWURbaHaOLuQOR1SAtpQOmg1mXWTrwxbuRQT40DXNv5aYv HmFOoV+6mfTriRxIzmhh8zkoPy9eSGOQV93L6xMTnLFV3mvlzyZhceYdQFIcbNeLuPOL xswtH2N35IbI7Ejcfdqfpn2DvfcovkhHf/Mgw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=TN0+draUQMRSWKRtYrWBLFvRUD7aXySbjr51OZjzQmt6jZcInx79DZs5cWA+eC2Xs+ 0Iy4kbcKywP/+NhABt5nj3MXckWT5NhdcesYe1c09zv6SaoLBSLkMvf5WYo/8MNmChF9 oGyy/5XzRZqifP0qGysZTNyy9heagstZJ9YhQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.147 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:41:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9CF6DFA5-91D3-4702-A395-58E32A2056FC@olivent.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:41:16 -0500 Received: by 10.229.224.149 with SMTP id io21mr2892073qcb.64.1270935676705; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Dan Naumov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: mikel king , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nethogs or similar for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:41:17 -0000 On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Dan Naumov wrote: > > I am on 8.0/amd64. From the website of Nethogs: "Since NetHogs heavily > relies on /proc, it currently runs on Linux only." > perhaps something like ntop? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 22:09:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FCF106566C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8C68FC0C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A20329608DE3367; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:08:58 +0100 Message-ID: <4BC0F6FA.9080201@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:08:58 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091212) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20100410153814.GA75433@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: <20100410153814.GA75433@slackbox.erewhon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jt , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Online school for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:09:02 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 09:34:59PM -0800, jt wrote: > >> I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been >> trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated, >> I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good. > > You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from > http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ There is also Absolute FreeBSD http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/ Only available for purchase though. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 23:19:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9C6106566C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail3.networktest.com (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2502D8FC08 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [69.55.234.60]) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4111C958CE for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.networktest.com ([69.55.234.60]) by localhost (mail3.networktest.com [69.55.234.60]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 45103-01 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from levi.local (unknown [63.112.41.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dnewman@networktest.com) by mail3.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E39D3958D9 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BC1065C.9070007@networktest.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:14:36 -0700 From: David Newman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100410153814.GA75433@slackbox.erewhon.net> <4BC0F6FA.9080201@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <4BC0F6FA.9080201@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Online school for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:19:49 -0000 On 4/10/10 3:08 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 09:34:59PM -0800, jt wrote: >> >>> I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've >>> been >>> trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting >>> complicated, >>> I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good. >> >> You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from >> http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ > > There is also Absolute FreeBSD > http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/ > Only available for purchase though. +1 I've found this and other books by Mr. Lucas to be informative, accessible and even entertaining, well worth their price. dn > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 23:28:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18639106566B for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:28:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FB58FC0A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85E7119D1C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:28:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene" To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:28:20 -0500 Message-Id: <20100410231955.M8887@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.0.14 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Can't get mysql to start - permission error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:28:20 -0000 Hi all: I'm running FBSD 8.0, amd64. After installing the mysql port: Mysql55-server and mysql55-client I've attempted to start using mysql_safe --user=mysql. It craps out and in the error log I find: 100410 7:25:36 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation. InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to InnoDB: the directory. InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1 InnoDB: File operation call: 'create'. InnoDB: Cannot continue operation. I suspect incorrect permissions somewhere. The question is... Where? Does anyone have any idea where it's trying to create ibdata1? And on a slightly related note - attempts to build the mysql60-server port rapidly dies with the error: ===> mysql-server-6.0.11 cannot install: unknown MySQL version: 60. *** Error code 1 Anyone know what that's all about? Thanks for any help or words of wisdom. IHN, Gene -- To everything there is a season, And a time to every purpose under heaven.