From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 10:49:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE08C1065672 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@catonic.us) Received: from mail.int-x.us (mail.int-x.us [199.204.204.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47E48FC17 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from spectre.catonic.us (adsl-98-83-146-48.bhm.bellsouth.net [98.83.146.48]) by mail.int-x.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F9255E4C5 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spectre.catonic.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0749FFD for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:34:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:34:43 -0600 (CST) From: Kris Kirby To: FreeBSD Chat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-Mailer: !/bin/sh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Why aren't you using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:49:57 -0000 On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Alex Moura wrote: > Why aren't you using FreeBSD? > http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/why-arent-you-using-freebsd-178119?page=0,1 Because being able to upgrade the system "hot" using a package manager makes my life easy. Having a userland tied to a kernel means if I update one ahead of the other, I can impact the user's operations. Ditto for graceful upgrades of libc. My customers don't want the service down for anything without a month's notice and three meetings. Why reboot the box unless there's a kernel vulnerability, not a library or userland vuln? I love FreeBSD, but at the end of the day, being able to "yum install beer" or "apt-get install yuengling" gives me more time for beer and less time awake in the middle of the night. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst