From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 08:25:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38AD1065672 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:25:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8571F8FC0A for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p9U8PCvH017591 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:25:12 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-130-66.as13285.net [92.22.130.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p9U8PBMR017584 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:25:12 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C0E9533C1F; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:25:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:25:11 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111030082511.GA70628@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20111028175401.17906e52@scorpio> <201110282227.p9SMR3HY075510@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20111029072824.76540c54@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111029072824.76540c54@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:25:16 -0000 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 07:28:24AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > You cannot even get a decent "N - protocol" wireless device, or even > a not so decent one for that matter, to work on FreeBSD while the > rest of the world has had working solutions for 5 years. What the > hell are they waiting for -- the second coming of the invisible man > in the sky? Friggin PATHETIC.=20 IEEE 802.11n-2009 was only published 2 years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009#Timeline Can we have enough of you whining about no "n"? Thanks. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk6tCeYACgkQHduKvUAgeK43bACdHlkgcp2cCjl5awkUfVM8PXgz M/YAn3043vnOHJHBCSwwDC1utrmFAWPG =nstN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 11:07:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF02C106566B for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romain.garbage@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1C98FC0A for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfk26 with SMTP id fk26so460265vcb.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:07:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Lyjg/phqOV6AiISezh1PtiF0FFjs6kUTHUDNF3yPR1c=; b=lYNRLKJ1QHahaAX7y9HWWddfO2xoR4pnWfU1KNgg3N9LfLStAf6eYkc7eqlBck6SYL FgHBySW4RL+RyBWD7O9TJxu7HQMlB7FHYIihpD+c281Zz/NDTTFsLWplX/js5tLrN4e0 iBMJmkgsLbibvf3lwn8bs7fDVhEumHp5wlBog= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.149.12 with SMTP id r12mr1766337vcv.205.1319972851643; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.152.71 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:07:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201110251852.47385.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> References: <201110251852.47385.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:07:31 +0100 Message-ID: From: Romain Garbage To: David Naylor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.31 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:07:32 -0000 2011/10/25 David Naylor : > Hi, Hi, > Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.31 have been uploaded to mediafire [2] a= nd > the wine-fbsd64.diff patch has been updated. =C2=A0There is a known UDP r= elated > problem with wine (see http://markmail.org/message/i7rtfz7uxd5s4fvl for > details). > > To date there has been 1217 (+70) downloads from mediafire. > > The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run = on > installation (if the relevant files are accessable). =C2=A0Please read th= e > installation messages for further information. $ sudo pkg_add Downloads/wine-fbsd64-1.3.31,1.txz tar: /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. A NVIDIA GRAPHICS DRIVER HAS BEEN DETECTED ON THIS SYSTEM AND THE AUTOMATED PATCHING HAS FAILED, execute (as root) sh /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh to get 2D/3D acceleration to work with the nvidia driver. Without this win= e will crash when a program requires 2D/3D graphics acceleration. [...] $ file /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh: cannot open `/usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh' (No such file or directory) $ tar tf Downloads/wine-fbsd64-1.3.31,1.txz | grep -C 2 nvidia bin32/wmc bin32/wrc usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh share/wine/fonts/coue1255.fon share/wine/fonts/coue1256.fon The problem here seems to be the trailing usr/local/ for patch-nvidia.sh file, which get actually installed into $PREFIX/usr/local/share/wine instead of $PREFIX/share/wine Regards, Romain PD: I used the fbsd9 package. md5 is ok. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 10:32:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7873B106566B for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:32:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152C88FC14 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so6822236faa.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 03:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.30.149 with SMTP id u21mr20649118fac.18.1319968888294; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 03:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.30.1.82] ([95.87.193.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t19sm30370356fac.0.2011.10.30.03.01.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 03:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:01:20 +0200 From: Peter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:24:32 +0000 Subject: [OFFTOPIC] Solution for school lab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:32:25 -0000 Hi, I am about to setup a small PC lab for teaching operating systems. Since computers will need to be used for teaching Windows/Unix(FreeBsd)/Linux(Novell) I need to find a way: 1. Systems to coexists on the same hardware 2. Easily restore system images to the initial state. I do not want we to turn into Windows only lab.I was thinking in for some Citrix solutions but I wonder if there is other way we can accomplish this task. Thanks in advance. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 11:31:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D838B1065670 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdlisten@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7658FC0A for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so2446911bkb.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:31:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UKMGwchBrxt1n+cikusH/tGNgONpibY81ZFUxBClywQ=; b=u7ZsXlNiuOqtsx7nc1PxU+9EqtKhcBQH4dyojYaVTspkM7a25TGHQeVdUc6Q6HJzpV fH8NK2/3JhdI/qnykv76SXfuJ/YzOSkkBCX4/QYuAmTXC75v7ZFlwsM6a1MDWnOw+82k f0sn/nchXnwIbuwe9822LAqNULS1ZpVmA6eho= Received: by 10.204.15.208 with SMTP id l16mr7527735bka.18.1319974307147; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debiand1.localdom.ain ([89.47.83.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a27sm13448651bku.9.2011.10.30.04.31.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:31:39 +0200 From: Rares Aioanei To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111030133139.286f09d4@debiand1.localdom.ain> In-Reply-To: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> References: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> User-Agent: my user agent X-Mailer: my x-mailer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Solution for school lab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:31:48 -0000 On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:01:20 +0200 Peter wrote: > Hi, > > I am about to setup a small PC lab for teaching operating systems. Since > computers will need to be used for teaching > Windows/Unix(FreeBsd)/Linux(Novell) I need to find a way: > > 1. Systems to coexists on the same hardware > 2. Easily restore system images to the initial state. > > > I do not want we to turn into Windows only lab.I was thinking in for > some Citrix solutions but I wonder if there is other way we can > accomplish this task. > > Thanks in advance. > > Peter For 1. you can always setup triple-boot machines, for 2. you can use Clonezilla, for instance. -- Rares Aioanei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 11:58:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389D51065673 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from relay0.exonetric.net (relay0.exonetric.net [82.138.248.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33FD8FC14 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.25] (unknown [78.86.207.85]) by relay0.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1CC57000; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:38:32 +0000 (GMT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Blackman In-Reply-To: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:38:31 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0A4895A0-2F76-442D-8BDF-B7E57AB66120@exonetric.com> References: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> To: Peter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Solution for school lab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:58:03 -0000 On 30 Oct 2011, at 10:01, Peter wrote: > Hi, > > I am about to setup a small PC lab for teaching operating systems. Since > computers will need to be used for teaching > Windows/Unix(FreeBsd)/Linux(Novell) I need to find a way: > > 1. Systems to coexists on the same hardware > 2. Easily restore system images to the initial state. > Diskless booting perhaps, along the lines of this project at ICL in London. http://www.ukuug.org/newsletter/19.2/#hpc_f_andy_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 12:13:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D13F1065674 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FF78FC15 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11so611904gyb.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 05:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.75.225 with SMTP id z61mr12343276yhd.1.1319976832976; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 05:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-105-057.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.105.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w69sm21115327yhl.15.2011.10.30.05.13.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 05:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3SWd5p2yqdz2CG4g for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:13:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:13:49 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111030081349.603d9ecf@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20111030082511.GA70628@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20111028175401.17906e52@scorpio> <201110282227.p9SMR3HY075510@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20111029072824.76540c54@scorpio> <20111030082511.GA70628@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:13:54 -0000 On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:25:11 +0000 Frank Shute articulated: > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 07:28:24AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > > > You cannot even get a decent "N - protocol" wireless device, or even > > a not so decent one for that matter, to work on FreeBSD while the > > rest of the world has had working solutions for 5 years. What the > > hell are they waiting for -- the second coming of the invisible man > > in the sky? Friggin PATHETIC. > > IEEE 802.11n-2009 was only published 2 years ago. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009#Timeline > > Can we have enough of you whining about no "n"? Thanks. I was using the early "draft" 'N' protocol devices 5 years ago. Obviously not in a FreeBSD environment. The time to start planning for change is not when it slams you in the face, but rather anticipating it and being prepared. There is no way any individual can claim that they were not aware this was happening. Now, as you pointed out "IEEE 802.11n-2009 was only published 2 years ago". So what is your point -- that we should wait another 5 years before addressing the problem? I am serious here; give me a time frame. Then post it on the FreeBSD web site so potential users will be aware of this deficiency. Or perhaps it is your belief that we should skip over this protocol entirely and wait until the "Q" or whatever letter is designated protocol is released. After all, it just stands to reason that at some time in the future someone will devise a faster and/or more secure method of wireless transmission. The biggest loser in this is FreeBSD itself. Virtually any new PC or laptop, with the exception of the bargain basement brands, and even some of them are exempt, now come with "N" protocol wireless devices. Any user who purchases one of these devices and plans on employing a wireless network finds him/her self at a disadvantage. Their options are to use a better OS, or buy and install a cheap "G" protocol device. That is like buying a new car and slapping a ten year old motor in it. I actually up to a few years ago had three FreeBSD machines hooked up on my network not counting three separate laptops. I now only have one machine because of the lack of suitable drivers. Once I get ambitious this spring and rip out the last vestiges of hard wiring, that unit will be gone too if drivers aren't available. Then I might try Ubuntu. Their developers apparently do care about their user base. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 12:59:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AE11065674 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589878FC12 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfk26 with SMTP id fk26so496891vcb.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 05:59:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.38.130 with SMTP id b2mr1814661vce.84.1319979598188; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 05:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.194.194 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 05:59:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.183.253] In-Reply-To: <20111030081349.603d9ecf@scorpio> References: <20111028175401.17906e52@scorpio> <201110282227.p9SMR3HY075510@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20111029072824.76540c54@scorpio> <20111030082511.GA70628@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20111030081349.603d9ecf@scorpio> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:59:58 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:59:59 -0000 On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jerry wrote: > The biggest loser in this is FreeBSD itself. Virtually any new PC or > laptop, with the exception of the bargain basement brands, and even > some of them are exempt, now come with "N" protocol wireless devices. Instead of devoting so much time and energy whining about the problem here on-list, even though you know full well that we can't do anything about it for known reasons... why won't you lobby the manufacturers of "N" devices, so that they either open their specs, so we can write a driver, or at least release binary blobs compatible with FreeBSD? Wouldn't that be more productive? You're very outspoken on some aspects, so put that rhetorical skill to good use and contact the major wireless chipset vendors; and then follow up with them if you don't get the reply you want, just as you do here on-list. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 13:12:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DD2106566B; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC7E8FC12; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyg14 with SMTP id 14so6589732qyg.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 06:12:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6txcbvdPVpEzMjVLQUJUYbQ6eH/k/N8ZWVUq8E6CrsA=; b=sRtcb179r0Ij6DDqJEoQ3duK4ZRoE1Lq+IhMwi6ukH1KuGTd29GYsMMPMOJ1PZLybb hHI1zy878iN2lrg5yY9vZzTGWQr909H2U8WLe5b3ZtwX9hdzBckpgVRJfSemfljFtj5n u8knUc7AX6OPRtyecCwT6KYJJDEsChUmmIrDc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.50.203 with SMTP id a11mr2263211qcg.130.1319980329305; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 06:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.5.85 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 06:12:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201110251852.47385.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:12:09 +0200 Message-ID: From: David Naylor To: Romain Garbage Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.31 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:12:11 -0000 Hi Romain, Thank you for the report. I will address this over the coming week and update the packages. In the interim, the packages will work for both nvidia and non-nvidia users except nvidia users will need to run patch-nvidia-wine.sh (from mediafire) manually... Regards On 30 October 2011 13:07, Romain Garbage wrote: > 2011/10/25 David Naylor : >> Hi, > > Hi, > >> Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.31 have been uploaded to mediafire [2] = and >> the wine-fbsd64.diff patch has been updated. =C2=A0There is a known UDP = related >> problem with wine (see http://markmail.org/message/i7rtfz7uxd5s4fvl for >> details). >> >> To date there has been 1217 (+70) downloads from mediafire. >> >> The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run= on >> installation (if the relevant files are accessable). =C2=A0Please read t= he >> installation messages for further information. > > $ sudo pkg_add Downloads/wine-fbsd64-1.3.31,1.txz > tar: /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh: Cannot stat: No such file > or directory > tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. > A NVIDIA GRAPHICS DRIVER HAS BEEN DETECTED ON THIS SYSTEM AND THE AUTOMAT= ED > PATCHING HAS FAILED, execute (as root) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sh /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh > to get 2D/3D acceleration to work with the nvidia driver. =C2=A0Without t= his wine > will crash when a program requires 2D/3D graphics acceleration. > [...] > > $ file /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh > /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh: cannot open > `/usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh' (No such file or directory) > > $ tar tf Downloads/wine-fbsd64-1.3.31,1.txz | grep -C 2 nvidia > bin32/wmc > bin32/wrc > usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh > share/wine/fonts/coue1255.fon > share/wine/fonts/coue1256.fon > > The problem here seems to be the trailing usr/local/ for > patch-nvidia.sh file, which get actually installed into > $PREFIX/usr/local/share/wine instead of $PREFIX/share/wine > > Regards, > Romain > > PD: I used the fbsd9 package. md5 is ok. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 13:48:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE461065672 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27538FC15 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnq2 with SMTP id q2so6690464ggn.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 06:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.36.10 with SMTP id o10mr1954011anj.138.1319982491867; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 06:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-105-057.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.105.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k3sm41262300ann.0.2011.10.30.06.48.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 06:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3SWgBd1xCfz2CG4g for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:48:08 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111030094808.2ab6b9fa@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20111028175401.17906e52@scorpio> <201110282227.p9SMR3HY075510@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20111029072824.76540c54@scorpio> <20111030082511.GA70628@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20111030081349.603d9ecf@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:48:13 -0000 On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:59:58 +0100 C. P. Ghost articulated: > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jerry wrote: > > The biggest loser in this is FreeBSD itself. Virtually any new PC or > > laptop, with the exception of the bargain basement brands, and even > > some of them are exempt, now come with "N" protocol wireless > > devices. > > Instead of devoting so much time and energy whining about the > problem here on-list, even though you know full well that we can't > do anything about it for known reasons... why won't you lobby the > manufacturers of "N" devices, so that they either open their specs, > so we can write a driver, or at least release binary blobs compatible > with FreeBSD? Wouldn't that be more productive? You're very > outspoken on some aspects, so put that rhetorical skill to good use > and contact the major wireless chipset vendors; and then follow up > with them if you don't get the reply you want, just as you do here > on-list. Seriously, are you so naive that you believe that his is the only venue I use to express my feeling on these matters? I have been pestering several corporations for over two years now. I have even spoken to several of their representatives, including a developer from Brother recently in regards to making drivers easily available to operating systems other than Microsoft, and usually a few flavors of Linux. The contact I had at Brother was actually a Linux user himself. In all cases, no matter what the device I was inquiring about was, the standard answer was that they -- meaning the OEM -- could not see any upside to investing in the development and maintenance of drivers for a community as fragmented as the non-windows frontier. A few actually told me to use Linux instead since they did offer some support for that architecture. One company, I believe it was Cisco, told me that FreeBSD does not support the system calls it needs to make its devices work correctly. I am not a system engineer and since he was talking above my head I just let it go. However, considering that nVidia had to wait years for FreeBSD to mature enough for it to get its drivers functional under this environment I can easily believe that there is more than a grain of truth to the statement. As for releasing technical details, etcetera, I was told point blank that such information was confidential and would not be released. Now that I can at least agree with. Unlike many socialists, I don't believe in working my ass off, spending X amount of dollars and then just giving my work away freely to every dirt bag to clone. I write several major vendors on a monthly basic. Sometimes even using different names so they might falsely believe that there is a larger base than actually exists to request support. Now, suppose you were to join me. Perhaps a few thousand other users, in other words all the FreeBSD base, and wrote on a bi-weekly schedule to a targeted vendor base requesting support. I will be happy to supply my own personal list and compile other pertinent vendor's names & address's as well. The only problem I see with this approach is maintaining continued group support. The tendency of people to just give up and quite is self evident. Now, as you might have noticed I don't suffer from that trait. It is the primary difference between an Alpha male and one who just bends over and takes it. In any event Ghost, contact me if you want to help, just don't expect to get any followers. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 14:29:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00524106566B for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03588FC13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37703F80A for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:29:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9UEThJP001908 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:29:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:29:43 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Message-Id: <20111030152943.79ee2103.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111030094808.2ab6b9fa@scorpio> References: <20111028175401.17906e52@scorpio> <201110282227.p9SMR3HY075510@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20111029072824.76540c54@scorpio> <20111030082511.GA70628@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20111030081349.603d9ecf@scorpio> <20111030094808.2ab6b9fa@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:29:46 -0000 On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:48:08 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:59:58 +0100 > C. P. Ghost articulated: > > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jerry wrote: > > > The biggest loser in this is FreeBSD itself. Virtually any new PC or > > > laptop, with the exception of the bargain basement brands, and even > > > some of them are exempt, now come with "N" protocol wireless > > > devices. > > > > Instead of devoting so much time and energy whining about the > > problem here on-list, even though you know full well that we can't > > do anything about it for known reasons... why won't you lobby the > > manufacturers of "N" devices, so that they either open their specs, > > so we can write a driver, or at least release binary blobs compatible > > with FreeBSD? Wouldn't that be more productive? You're very > > outspoken on some aspects, so put that rhetorical skill to good use > > and contact the major wireless chipset vendors; and then follow up > > with them if you don't get the reply you want, just as you do here > > on-list. > > Seriously, are you so naive that you believe that his is the only > venue I use to express my feeling on these matters? I have been > pestering several corporations for over two years now. I have even > spoken to several of their representatives, including a developer from > Brother recently in regards to making drivers easily available to > operating systems other than Microsoft, and usually a few flavors of > Linux. The contact I had at Brother was actually a Linux user himself. Actually, Jerry has a point here. The N networking devices have similarities with "modern" printers in this regards. While developing compatible "intelligency" in the devices itself is a cost factor of O(n), moving this "intelligency" to software is O(1). For those not familiar with my abuse of the O notation: O(n) means linear: The more devices are produced, the more chips need to be made. In case of printers, those chips control paper feed and ink pee, as well as scanner, imaging, local buffer storage, data transfer and so on. O(1) means constant: Only one set of driver will have to be developed, one for each "Windows" product line and architecture that's intended to be supported. The whole "intelligence" is in there, and data transfered to the device will control it directly, maybe even unbuffered. >From a business point of view, investing O(1) in development vs. getting O(n) revenue sounds very interesting. What I said regarding printer devices seems to apply to wireless networking too. The cheaper the better. There is no intention of continued use in there, as this does not benefit sales. If hardware could be re-used, what reason would home consumers (main target area!) have to buy something new that basically provides the same functionality? The more unit sales, the lower the price, and therefore a wider-spread product spectrum. Of course, the downside is that the possibilities of use are limited, but again, that's what customers have been trained to require. > One company, I believe it was Cisco, told me that FreeBSD > does not support the system calls it needs to make its devices work > correctly. I am not a system engineer and since he was talking above my > head I just let it go. It _may_ be possible that Cisco depends on "Linuxisms" here, maybe things like *64() calls, like fstat64() vs. fstat(). I'm not a Cisco engineer, so this is just a very wild guess. "Doesn't have it" may refer to advanced technology as well as to legacy one. > As for releasing technical details, etcetera, I was told point blank > that such information was confidential and would not be released. Now > that I can at least agree with. Of course, it is their right to do so, will all the implications. The confidentiality could also be a means to hide the fact that devices come with planned obsolescence or are intended to spy at users (such as it is quite easily possible with "Windows" and a webcam). Other reasons could be secret contracts with companies or governments for a "data exchange", you're getting the idea. But as this cannot be proven properly at the moment, just leave this point mentioned as is. > Unlike many socialists, I don't believe > in working my ass off, spending X amount of dollars and then just giving > my work away freely to every dirt bag to clone. If this is not your attitude, well, fine, and fully okay. However this is not everyones attitude as some want to improve computers and operating systems for free, as they see it a chance to do something FOR the society. The possibility to "make money" with tools provided for free is a thing of licensing. You know that FreeBSD allows its users to create own products with it, even turn _them_ into something proprietary and then sell them. This is a good idea from a CAPITALIST point of view, i. e. take it for 0, sell it for $$$. And why not? Because the licensing terms don't prohibit it. This is also a chance for innovation, for individuals finding their future on a free market. If this way of working has a moral downside is a consideration to be taken by every individual on his own. > I write several major vendors on a monthly basic. Sometimes even using > different names so they might falsely believe that there is a larger > base than actually exists to request support. Now, suppose you were to > join me. Perhaps a few thousand other users, in other words all the > FreeBSD base, and wrote on a bi-weekly schedule to a targeted vendor > base requesting support. I will be happy to supply my own personal list > and compile other pertinent vendor's names & address's as well. This woudn't be interesting, as FreeBSD has no market share. Why "no"? Because it's not a company like the big software vendors or the OEMs. No market share - no intention to support. It is that simple. The logical conclusion: The majority of free projects, no matter how advanced they are, get no attention as the predicted unit sales won't justify further activity. > The only problem I see with this approach is maintaining continued group > support. The tendency of people to just give up and quite is self > evident. If there's a backup for professional work (i. e. payment), _this_ is what keeps people at work. Only few exceptions have the time and will to code for free. Their revenue is the knowledge they gain, the popularity of their software, and the idea that they actually have improved something. Of course, this is not what you can buy food for. > It is the primary difference between an Alpha male and one who just > bends over and takes it. As I said: Adoption is the strength of the weak. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 14:58:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 1B8C2106566C; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:58:08 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111030145808.GA66287@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: question regarding style(9) and field initialisers in structs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:58:08 -0000 hi there, i found hundreds of the following cases in the FreeBSD src: [...] struct periph_driver { periph_init_func_t init; char *driver_name; TAILQ_HEAD(,cam_periph) units; u_int generation; u_int flags; #define CAM_PERIPH_DRV_EARLY 0x01 }; [...] static struct periph_driver dadriver = { dainit, "da", TAILQ_HEAD_INITIALIZER(dadriver.units), /* generation */ 0 }; ...is it proper programming practice to forget about the last field, if it would have been initialised to 0? cheers. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 15:03:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076C9106564A for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B0B8FC0C for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt32 with SMTP id 32so6744049ywt.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:03:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references :disposition-notification-to:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=Xdx1dEHw9TyFlIpO5/9vkU6kbT6KyoI/otxX0ShGX8Q=; b=rXk68oJxAv1QgyvIqMnmwtjUHtcwZdy52n55wQ2qhUIDCBlqjduYGlq7MjM7GCEDwx EWig2Hy9MRt/6+gRubfe/2CNmjf3HsdMY5qBE4c9bqMMW4dVlfVrsfUrM74hGBN3e5Js AWxNoTmFQVYB2N2GOtK3xXboYWJRAYcUZZBJ8= Received: by 10.150.96.2 with SMTP id t2mr8481847ybb.48.1319987014987; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.6.230] ([201.21.151.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m33sm11646674ann.4.2011.10.30.08.03.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Peter In-Reply-To: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> References: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:03:30 -0200 Message-ID: <1319987010.21810.13.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Solution for school lab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:03:36 -0000 I use a solution that is: 1) a "large" Freebsd box (phenon X4,8Gb of memory, 1TB disk) 2) OS=Freebsd 8.2 with all gnome2.32 installed 3) Virtualbox 10.x installed in FreeBSD 4) NT 2003 server with unlimited number of users on rdp (the iso is in internet or torrent). 5) internet connection Here this would cost about US$400 Install the system using zfs, insert all users can hold about 1000 users Setup FreeBSD to boot diskless (and so will run on all the old machines in your place) using either pxe or custom CD. The users will use Gnome interface, and those who wants windows, can use via rdesktop, pointing on the NT server on the same machine. You will need a swith with ONE gigabit port, and the others is 100Mbits... This setup you have: about 1200 applictions (from the FreBSDports), some include: java, eclipse, python, c, c++, multimedia, web browing, office, printing, email, chat, calculator, vector drawing, dia (visio), raster image editor (gimp), monodevelop(.NET devel framework), sql (postgresql), sql administration (pgadmin3). Reliable, fast, rock solid, central administration... It just works.... [] Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 16:08:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063BF1065672 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Received: from Elmer.dco.penx.com (elmer.dco.penx.com [174.46.214.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41BF8FC20 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Elmer.dco.penx.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9UG7v8w018217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:07:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:07:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@Elmer.dco.penx.com To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi In-Reply-To: <1319987010.21810.13.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Message-ID: References: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> <1319987010.21810.13.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Peter , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Solution for school lab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:08:02 -0000 On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > I use a solution that is: > 1) a "large" Freebsd box (phenon X4,8Gb of memory, 1TB disk) > 2) OS=Freebsd 8.2 with all gnome2.32 installed > 3) Virtualbox 10.x installed in FreeBSD > 4) NT 2003 server with unlimited number of users on rdp (the iso is in > internet or torrent). > 5) internet connection > Here this would cost about US$400 > > Install the system using zfs, insert all users can hold about 1000 users > Setup FreeBSD to boot diskless (and so will run on all the old machines > in your place) using either pxe or custom CD. > > The users will use Gnome interface, and those who wants windows, > can use via rdesktop, pointing on the NT server on the same machine. > > You will need a swith with ONE gigabit port, and the others is > 100Mbits... > > This setup you have: > about 1200 applictions (from the FreBSDports), > some include: > java, eclipse, python, c, c++, multimedia, web browing, office, > printing, email, chat, calculator, vector drawing, dia (visio), > raster image editor (gimp), monodevelop(.NET devel framework), > sql (postgresql), sql administration (pgadmin3). > > Reliable, fast, rock solid, central administration... > > It just works.... > Consider installing VMWare ESXi and instances of whatever operating system you like. We have template operating systems we copy to new/replacement instances. You can export your disks to the instances but with all things you gain some, you loose some. As someone else mentioned, consider netboot. The booted instance can do whatever they want to your hardware but disks are likely to have to be re-initialized each time, which is fine if you are using disks for swap and other temporary things. With regard to VirtualBox, someone needs to fix it (probably just update the port). The network driver (IIRC) eats memory. > > [] > > Sergio > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 16:10:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E760E1065672 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:10:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85C18FC13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyg14 with SMTP id 14so6639903qyg.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:10:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7wuVfJ6gKnec48vwz/uEeYn46HrtMB6oGBvFemjyqFk=; b=JJzgCNfEDMLnE0Gn7p+WTd0FE378rPDdYxWCnIDdRkJC2E4L6waGszR6REF2BLF7ka RrjTTRiWiX++aMYlv97QTEwnspQdKED9UwJncjoL30Myy4S7OhjgihvBpiMZBIUllQ9l a2xJ/fMFVTAEIoLnwwfqJ0D8Kub7nRd1uWvO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.194.42 with SMTP id dw42mr2313846qcb.218.1319989536414; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.242.5 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:45:36 -0600 Message-ID: From: Modulok To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: idletime in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:10:09 -0000 List, Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes. Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class: :idletime=10m: I then rebuilt the database: cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20 minutes or more. I'm missing something. Other than an autologout shell variables, how do I force idle users to logout? Thanks. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 17:32:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF59106564A for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381678FC0A for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt32 with SMTP id 32so6842079ywt.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:32:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:disposition-notification-to :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=+UA0sBXgTqaPKnTxiNKTMkUNF+9DPF4rh0gCuIzA35c=; b=cUHj8hBp06AzSmd7XNLiyoTgka+KUO1/bMKey99t79dO8yWxJ7yDo9gxPkex9J6tkp kk7RD9tHYmV+YLxNh78/THcOcvoFqWmEqFs33SZ2pZrh4FCgDqxPBLyqx0LJhAV5dJSo RjIp3gB6wpkctW/t1plOGEgNOF+PGphBKoiMk= Received: by 10.150.138.15 with SMTP id l15mr8647988ybd.21.1319994401671; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.6.230] ([201.21.151.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j13sm44023470ani.19.2011.10.30.10.06.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:06:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Dennis Glatting , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: References: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> <1319987010.21810.13.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:06:35 -0200 Message-ID: <1319994395.24896.10.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Solution for school lab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:32:57 -0000 > Consider installing VMWare ESXi and instances of whatever operating system > you like. We have template operating systems we copy to new/replacement > instances. You can export your disks to the instances but with all things > you gain some, you loose some. with the small machine (phenon 4, 8Gb), and vmware, the sistems is slow... and the MB does not accept more than 8GB. Besides I would need a version of each operating system for VMWARE.. and I do not know if vmware can be used for free. If even in a school you can, in other places you cannot, so I would cope with several platforms... Here I run a business based on FreeBSD, and the less different solutions the better... > > As someone else mentioned, consider netboot. The booted instance can do > whatever they want to your hardware but disks are likely to have to be > re-initialized each time, which is fine if you are using disks for swap > and other temporary things. I use PXE because it is in the firmware of the MB... (almost always have)... some very old computers, does not boot anything but: floppy, cd, or HD... I choose CD.. one CD, boot all machines... Netboot is great too... > > With regard to VirtualBox, someone needs to fix it (probably just update > the port). The network driver (IIRC) eats memory. Strange I have been using it in a day basis, and never had problems with that... the machine sometimes suffer power failure (3 months, or 1 month period).. I use FreeBSD 8.2 in zfs... with zmirror, and daylly snapshots... so I can go back anything till 5 days ago... Anyway, thanks for the information [] Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 21:50:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4193106566B for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB5A8FC08 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qadz32 with SMTP id z32so6169859qad.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:50:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=EOelQsO6AcIxKYaDld5n8SKFIxpd5Xsb95l07z4pAyE=; b=WwvD/WHl7jNz5ubKZo6ogcbRlWeuZ97WUBhN3pTqnG9z1Iw7bzGqS2C4/2DqIDX4EU FBID+vgA2NaQntyJ/veLW+uSWR55WchtZDfemkf1cpugYoky0dtsqh2WoMWNrEc18t8Q cSLMSlFoKyiu1RvVOQCBo8czoG5/5pvO4YbVg= Received: by 10.224.17.136 with SMTP id s8mr9794130qaa.75.1320009603701; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([181.42.66.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eg7sm27205757qab.2.2011.10.30.14.19.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:19:16 -0300 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:50:02 -0000 What happens is that I tried to install things on the ports, but almost no o= ne serves me, I've only been able to install firefox, I tried also install K= DE, GNOME and KFCE, but I have been many errors, commonly solocionables, for= example I had to modify "REFRESH" to "true", but also to get out other erro= rs, commonly have a solution, but is a great problem to have to spend all hi= s time fixing bugs. Please tell me if it is natural to every time I download= large modifying ports so, if so, then why say "functional"? Zantgo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 22:42:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CEE106566C for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E6B8FC12 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh11 with SMTP id 11so1328662wyh.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:42:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.206.211 with SMTP id fv19mr14385741wbb.27.1320014531518; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:42:11 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: IPsec woes in 8.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:42:13 -0000 I've been trying to upgrade a client firewall to 8.2, but have an odd problem. The current config, based on 7.4, has the firewall as an IPsec endpoint for other offices, but also is doing 1:1 NAT and passing L2TP traffic to a VPN endpoint inside the firewall. The upgrade to 8.2 breaks the L2TP traffic through the firewall. I see the ISAKMP traffic, phase 1 and phase 2, but the UDP-encap: ESP packets seen on the outside of the firewall are no longer passed through, as evidence by the following (sorry for obscuring the public IP addresses, you can still read it). Any suggestions? reading from file l2tp_inside_capture.pcap.pcap, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet) 13:21:51.554271 IP A.B.C.D.32201 > 172.17.1.107.500: isakmp: phase 1 I ident 13:21:51.555192 IP 172.17.1.107.500 > A.B.C.D.32201: isakmp: phase 1 R ident 13:21:51.576756 IP A.B.C.D.32201 > 172.17.1.107.500: isakmp: phase 1 I ident 13:21:51.581808 IP 172.17.1.107.500 > A.B.C.D.32201: isakmp: phase 1 R ident 13:21:51.600743 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > 172.17.1.107.4500: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 1 I ident[E] 13:21:51.601082 IP 172.17.1.107.4500 > A.B.C.D.37762: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 1 R ident[E] 13:21:52.617401 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > 172.17.1.107.4500: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 2/others I oakley-quick[E] 13:21:52.618170 IP 172.17.1.107.4500 > A.B.C.D.37762: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 2/others R oakley-quick[E] 13:21:52.629397 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > 172.17.1.107.4500: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 2/others I oakley-quick[E] 13:22:11.776889 IP 172.17.1.107.4500 > A.B.C.D.37762: isakmp-nat-keep-alive 13:22:12.642584 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > 172.17.1.107.4500: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 2/others I inf[E] 13:22:12.642586 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > 172.17.1.107.4500: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 2/others I inf[E] reading from file l2tp_outside_capture.pcap.pcap, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet) 13:21:51.470254 IP A.B.C.D.32201 > E.F.G.H.500: isakmp: phase 1 I ident 13:21:51.558259 IP E.F.G.H.500 > A.B.C.D.32201: isakmp: phase 1 R ident 13:21:51.577845 IP A.B.C.D.32201 > E.F.G.H.500: isakmp: phase 1 I ident 13:21:51.584205 IP E.F.G.H.500 > A.B.C.D.32201: isakmp: phase 1 R ident 13:21:51.602096 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > E.F.G.H.4500: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 1 I ident[E] 13:21:51.603197 IP E.F.G.H.4500 > A.B.C.D.37762: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 1 R ident[E] 13:21:52.618053 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > E.F.G.H.4500: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 2/others I oakley-quick[E] 13:21:52.620045 IP E.F.G.H.4500 > A.B.C.D.37762: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 2/others R oakley-quick[E] 13:21:52.630504 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > E.F.G.H.4500: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 2/others I oakley-quick[E] 13:21:52.632112 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > E.F.G.H.4500: UDP-encap: ESP(spi=0x08278f54,seq=0x1), length 116 13:21:53.255200 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > E.F.G.H.4500: UDP-encap: ESP(spi=0x08278f54,seq=0x2), length 116 13:21:55.255914 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > E.F.G.H.4500: UDP-encap: ESP(spi=0x08278f54,seq=0x3), length 116 13:21:59.256397 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > E.F.G.H.4500: UDP-encap: ESP(spi=0x08278f54,seq=0x4), length 116 13:22:07.257594 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > E.F.G.H.4500: UDP-encap: ESP(spi=0x08278f54,seq=0x5), length 116 13:22:12.193516 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > E.F.G.H.4500: isakmp-nat-keep-alive 13:22:12.643129 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > E.F.G.H.4500: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 2/others I inf[E] 13:22:12.643841 IP A.B.C.D.37762 > E.F.G.H.4500: NONESP-encap: isakmp: phase 2/others I inf[E] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 22:55:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD6A1065672 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53708FC0A for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p9UMtKNH025376; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:55:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p9UMtKG0025373; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:55:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:55:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Zantgo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:55:20 -0600 (MDT) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:55:21 -0000 On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Zantgo wrote: > What happens is that I tried to install things on the ports, but > almost no one serves me, I've only been able to install firefox, I > tried also install KDE, GNOME and KFCE, but I have been many errors, > commonly solocionables, for example I had to modify "REFRESH" to > "true", but also to get out other errors, commonly have a solution, > but is a great problem to have to spend all his time fixing bugs. > Please tell me if it is natural to every time I download large > modifying ports so, if so, then why say "functional"? Yes, ports work well. From the description, it's difficult to tell what is causing the problem. Please supply additional information, like what version of FreeBSD and the exact output of one of the errors (script(1) is useful for that). Also see the section in the Handbook about packages and ports: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html Translations of the Handbook can be found at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/ in the books subdirectory. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 23:01:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB39106566B for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11B28FC12 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyg14 with SMTP id 14so6753601qyg.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:01:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=rT4OyNfJKm+w1XgGR5iGA2VX1osg4KT6iWnaKo9TVto=; b=GoCfZon0q3Nf4cVg9ShqQYGXzOwZSeLZ7fN6q6EuFqeaJgqYCSiPujy4TVq0v3elyU tQsSoTBPnTRtNtJyHszGO6wPNIUgCWsPMMSf/7vXMq0Lqm/nLkR7OQQGLGdYFPtBsoT1 6ZJme5JPpsRf5kwV3oXNg3UcUXU1BGzQ6PBxQ= Received: by 10.229.221.20 with SMTP id ia20mr2310777qcb.120.1320015691153; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([181.42.66.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v6sm27614172qaz.7.2011.10.30.16.01.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:01:30 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:01:30 -0300 To: Warren Block Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:01:32 -0000 El 30-10-2011, a las 19:55, Warren Block escribi=C3=B3:= > On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Zantgo wrote: >=20 >> What happens is that I tried to install things on the ports, but almost n= o one serves me, I've only been able to install firefox, I tried also instal= l KDE, GNOME and KFCE, but I have been many errors, commonly solocionables, f= or example I had to modify "REFRESH" to "true", but also to get out other er= rors, commonly have a solution, but is a great problem to have to spend all h= is time fixing bugs. Please tell me if it is natural to every time I downloa= d large modifying ports so, if so, then why say "functional"? >=20 > Yes, ports work well. =46rom the description, it's difficult to tell what= is causing the problem. Please supply additional information, like what ve= rsion of FreeBSD and the exact output of one of the errors (script(1) is use= ful for that). Also see the section in the Handbook about packages and port= s: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html >=20 > Translations of the Handbook can be found at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/Fre= eBSD/doc/ in the books subdirectory. the problem is not the problem, since most are solving the problem is that t= here are many errors and problems, then as I say it is stable and functional= ?= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 23:03:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9D2106566B for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:03:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF918FC19 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (87.194.237.233) by april.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4E261E7203556C0A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:52:06 +0000 Message-ID: <4EADD515.7020800@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:52:05 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Solution for school lab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:03:05 -0000 On 30/10/2011 10:01, Peter wrote: > Hi, > > I am about to setup a small PC lab for teaching operating systems. Since > computers will need to be used for teaching > Windows/Unix(FreeBsd)/Linux(Novell) I need to find a way: > > 1. Systems to coexists on the same hardware > 2. Easily restore system images to the initial state. > 1) A very robust if slightly more expensive way is a separate disk for each OS. Many more recent (last 3 or 4 years?) motherboards have an option during POST to choose a boot device so you don't need to go into the BIOS setup screens. This system has the advantage that OS's are completely separate from each other. 2) Clonezilla. (Not very relevant aside... Back in the day of pentium 1's and 2 dual channel IDE controllers I solved this same problem with 3 hard disks, each set to be master, on a home made IDE cable with an extra connector so the three disks were plugged into the primary controller, and a 3 position rotary switch so only one disk would power up at a time. It took a bit of experimentation to find three disks that could coexist but it worked really well as long as one didn't switch over while the machine was on. I think I had FreeBSD, Windows and Netware). Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 23:42:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297DB106566B for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4358FC12 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p9UNg0rr025627; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:42:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p9UNg0JE025624; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:42:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:42:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Zantgo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:42:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:42:01 -0000 On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Zantgo wrote: > El 30-10-2011, a las 19:55, Warren Block escribi?: > >> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Zantgo wrote: >> >>> What happens is that I tried to install things on the ports, but almost no one serves me, I've only been able to install firefox, I tried also install KDE, GNOME and KFCE, but I have been many errors, commonly solocionables, for example I had to modify "REFRESH" to "true", but also to get out other errors, commonly have a solution, but is a great problem to have to spend all his time fixing bugs. Please tell me if it is natural to every time I download large modifying ports so, if so, then why say "functional"? >> >> Yes, ports work well. From the description, it's difficult to tell what is causing the problem. Please supply additional information, like what version of FreeBSD and the exact output of one of the errors (script(1) is useful for that). Also see the section in the Handbook about packages and ports: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html >> >> Translations of the Handbook can be found at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/ in the books subdirectory. > > the problem is not the problem, since most are solving the problem is that there are many errors and problems, then as I say it is stable and functional? The ports system is stable and functional for others, including me, so what needs to be figured out is the source of problems on your system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 00:43:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8811065680 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30AF8FC12 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt32 with SMTP id 32so7109255ywt.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:43:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z6X5w6xyl0uDr+FzWO0VtgTIM6F8j+yzDCpH1kVJz3k=; b=PSpxPuNow5xFFuRJwnChi5dXRVYVUE3JdIgq9qyqxUtXx6zByWp+BchfhBaSCeeoBB wmyO7xwrh82R4Rpu233IAa+YL9D/Y2HxmoYIor+5ghPZP2mb6KDc/xxcKXbCZiopnzGJ sqPtR7GdEgZMMkq3klI5H8eb2IuMwdhlRPMYs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.192.132 with SMTP id i4mr14142246yhn.80.1320020438081; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.110.172 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:20:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:20:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:43:37 -0000 ummmm . . . this person has been doing similar "hold-my-hand-I-do-not-want-to-take-the-time" kinda thing on the oBSD lists recently. On 10/30/11, Zantgo wrote: > El 30-10-2011, a las 19:55, Warren Block escribi=F3: > >> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Zantgo wrote: >> >>> What happens is that I tried to install things on the ports, but almost >>> no one serves me, I've only been able to install firefox, I tried also >>> install KDE, GNOME and KFCE, but I have been many errors, commonly >>> solocionables, for example I had to modify "REFRESH" to "true", but als= o >>> to get out other errors, commonly have a solution, but is a great probl= em >>> to have to spend all his time fixing bugs. Please tell me if it is >>> natural to every time I download large modifying ports so, if so, then >>> why say "functional"? >> >> Yes, ports work well. From the description, it's difficult to tell what >> is causing the problem. Please supply additional information, like what >> version of FreeBSD and the exact output of one of the errors (script(1) = is >> useful for that). Also see the section in the Handbook about packages a= nd >> ports: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html >> >> Translations of the Handbook can be found at >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/ in the books subdirectory. > > the problem is not the problem, since most are solving the problem is tha= t > there are many errors and problems, then as I say it is stable and > functional?_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 01:25:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D03C1065670 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63448FC13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066711E597; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:25:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9V1PEjq002279; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:25:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:25:14 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Zantgo Message-Id: <20111031022514.7855773c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:25:18 -0000 On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:19:16 -0300, Zantgo wrote: > What happens is that I tried to install things on the ports, > but almost no one serves me, I've only been able to install > firefox, I tried also install KDE, GNOME and KFCE, but I have > been many errors, commonly solocionables, for example I had > to modify "REFRESH" to "true", but also to get out other errors, > commonly have a solution, but is a great problem to have to > spend all his time fixing bugs. Please tell me if it is > natural to every time I download large modifying ports so, > if so, then why say "functional"? For better diagnostics, please provide the commands you've run as well as the (last parts containing the errors) of the output. You did already get good suggestions on what to read about how to properly use the ports infrastructure. You should not need to define any variables (except those you intendedly want to change according to your needs for program modification). I'm not familiar with $REFRESH, what does this do? Maybe using precompiled packages (via "pkg_add -r ") would be a better solution here? Oh, and don't miss to read "man ports", it's very informative! Regarding the ports collection's functionality: It's VERY functional and works nearly flawlessly (until, of course, a port is broken, but this happens only a very few times). Maybe you should search things like working Internet connection and proper usage on your side. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 02:36:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63375106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E588FC0A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iabz21 with SMTP id z21so530259iab.13 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:36:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.132.10 with SMTP id b10mr19462932ict.18.1320028604987; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.13.77 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:36:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:36:44 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CsZtFdn03M4uJtgT673D5EpNz5I Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:36:46 -0000 On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Zantgo wrote: > What happens is that I tried to install things on the ports, but almost n= o one serves me, I've only been able to install firefox, I tried also insta= ll KDE, GNOME and KFCE, but I have been many errors, commonly solocionables= , for example I had to modify "REFRESH" to "true", but also to get out othe= r errors, commonly have a solution, but is a great problem to have to spend= all his time fixing bugs. Please tell me if it is natural to every time I = download large modifying ports so, if so, then why say "functional"? > I've used FBSD since 6.2 and ports are almost always flawless. Many times it's the combination of configuration options (in make config) that may cause problems. For very large packages such as the graphics system, open or libre office etc. it's much better to use binary versions via pkg_add. It's a waste of time to compile these very large suites and most of the time you will get the config options wrong, and they take forever to compile. For things you want to tailor and optimize to your needs then use the ports system. FBSD is so cool that it doesn't matter if you install one way or the other and you can use almost all methods interchangeably. --=20 Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 02:46:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E0F1065676 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa07-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 629068FC08 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9534 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2011 02:20:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (71.170.154.177) by p3plsmtpa07-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.235) with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2011 02:20:15 -0000 Message-ID: <4EAE05C3.3030408@computer.org> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:19:47 -0500 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Lamaiziere References: <20111026032037.23014255@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <20111026032037.23014255@davenulle.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: url=http://www.ravenlock.us/keys/pub_schuele.pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig370EA53975966F40A3126D4C" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nice man pages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:46:56 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig370EA53975966F40A3126D4C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/25/2011 20:20, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I use sysutils/most to have nice manual pages in color, that's cool but= > is there a way to do this with the base system (ie without adding port)= ? >=20 > Thanks, regards. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" >=20 >=20 Well, (depending on your definition of adding a port) for me since I always have vim, I use the following alias: alias man man -P \"col -b \| vim -c \'set ft=3Dman nomod nolist\' -\" Maybe that helps a bit? --=20 Regards, Eric --------------enig370EA53975966F40A3126D4C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk6uBcMACgkQngSDRM3IXUo01gCfQ5QusrS9hiY1I98iLfSG4uOf dGwAoK84wmP24xUenXdIMn6H/1acEBpK =Kp8x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig370EA53975966F40A3126D4C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 03:05:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649AA106566C for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B228FC0A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699C23E759; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:05:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9V35jov003057; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:05:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:05:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Alejandro Imass Message-Id: <20111031040545.cc7d874f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:05:48 -0000 On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:36:44 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > For very large packages such as the graphics system, open or libre > office etc. it's much better to use binary versions via pkg_add. It's > a waste of time to compile these very large suites and most of the > time you will get the config options wrong, and they take forever to > compile. Exceptions: 1) You need language-specific settings. Example: OpenOffice in German. 2) You need others than the default options, e. g. if you want to include or exclude some stuff. Example: OpenOffice without KDE. 3) You need options to be set at compile time that do differ from the default options from which the binary packages are made, or because of "artificially shit in your pants" legal requirements and restrictions. Example: mplayer with mencoder and all (!) codecs 4) You need to speed up things to make them run on older hardware, and you fight for every optimization. Example: mplayer's RUNTIME_CPU_DETECTION. But this is, I think, a case for 1% of users only. You hardly need to do that. In most cases, the default options are fine, and the binary packages just work. > For things you want to tailor and optimize to your needs then use the > ports system. FBSD is so cool that it doesn't matter if you install > one way or the other and you can use almost all methods > interchangeably. A managament tool (such as portmaster or portupgrade) helps to keep an eye on dependencies when using the many possible ways. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 06:34:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90BF1065674 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F278FC16 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:34:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=vOckr71dwC6owW0HqTGM5zIy2JR5lkhfuOIGyvvVtqA=; b=UA6SPHS5TNCJzo1r4VBhrjziozfgRz1+94XK/y7a1M+UmqOUAaaqDzGH7RygXMqTGheSLtkDd3B1Okam8lEgCB8XtmCJBvdRmkzIb4aKmIHF4Wr9Xsz7wT7+8JMugB1pL5fx9Y+fdgcpjd4mLmMMls/SDWahSxH3f7jWO2Us3ho= Received: from [192.168.1.134] ([120.29.64.160]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:34:41 -0700 Message-ID: <4EAE4173.7010603@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:34:27 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi References: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> <1319987010.21810.13.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> In-Reply-To: <1319987010.21810.13.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2011 06:34:42.0731 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C60F7B0:01CC9797] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: Peter , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Solution for school lab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:34:54 -0000 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > I use a solution that is: > 1) a "large" Freebsd box (phenon X4,8Gb of memory, 1TB disk) > 2) OS=Freebsd 8.2 with all gnome2.32 installed > 3) Virtualbox 10.x installed in FreeBSD > 4) NT 2003 server with unlimited number of users on rdp (the iso is in > internet or torrent). > 5) internet connection > Here this would cost about US$400 > > Install the system using zfs, insert all users can hold about 1000 users > Setup FreeBSD to boot diskless (and so will run on all the old machines > in > your place) using either pxe or custom CD. > > The users will use Gnome interface, and those who wants windows, > can use via rdesktop, pointing on the NT server on the same machine. > > You will need a swith with ONE gigabit port, and the others is > 100Mbits... > > This setup you have: > about 1200 applictions (from the FreBSDports), > some include: > java, eclipse, python, c, c++, multimedia, web browing, office, > printing, email, chat, calculator, vector drawing, dia (visio), > raster image editor (gimp), monodevelop(.NET devel framework), > sql (postgresql), sql administration (pgadmin3). > > Reliable, fast, rock solid, central administration... > > It just works.... > > > [] > > Sergio You should look into the Freebsd port qjail. At our school lab all the pcs have ms/windows on the hard drive with the "putty" client installed. Students use putty to get logged into a jail on a single Freebsd system. Each student can practice installing ports, packages, or one of the desktop window environments in their private jail. The goal being to teach students to be system administrators. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 08:00:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24670106566B for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A228FC0A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh11 with SMTP id 11so1615937wyh.13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.209.21 with SMTP id ge21mr16770656wbb.6.1320048045589; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.99.116.135] ([92.90.16.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id en13sm25603045wbb.22.2011.10.31.01.00.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:00:42 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:00:26 +0100 To: Modulok Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: idletime in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:00:49 -0000 On 30 Oct 2011, at 16:45, Modulok wrote: > List, >=20 > Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes. >=20 > Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class: >=20 > :idletime=3D10m: >=20 > I then rebuilt the database: >=20 > cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf >=20 > Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20 minutes o= r > more. I'm missing something. Other than an autologout shell variables, how= do I > force idle users to logout? >=20 Are these users that logged in after or before your change ? Obviously the idle timeout only applies to users who logged in after you adj= usted the value and rebuilt the db.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 08:13:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3534106566C for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ashley.wil@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DC18FC0C for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so7248856vws.13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:13:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RtH9UxPJWpzI+IiNbs/VyA12AmkB7iU0+5GWG1c096c=; b=d7odK9zIUtE8bqcJ88chSPoYsRCwNQ730R3T0A9SCSGmNYmgdZtFqpYrgKZ1E4pbI9 TerJ9uoouTatn7B9QnlbZ7QLe+B4ggq0DGP40xCwWdzNgzANx6DTdWSY0wtHgq62FR4A f65CtypcyzUWYz+4JTx4XhzCTltnDWgnb9ym0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.17.112 with SMTP id n16mr3330461vdd.70.1320047158999; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.108.73 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:45:58 +1000 Message-ID: From: Ashley Williams To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: hard lockups with RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:13:50 -0000 I've recently upgraded from 9.0 beta1 to RC1 and experiencing a few hard lockups, they seem to related to browsing - both chromium and firefox cause the lockups. (requiring a hard reset ) All I can think of is something related to Linux emulation and flash, but I could be wrong. Rolling back the kernel version with the same userland clears up the problem. I haven't been able to get any logs or cores to help diagnose this problem, so I'd appreciate a push in the right direction. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 09:36:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A571065674 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe.gain@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D748FC0A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh11 with SMTP id 11so1704817wyh.13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:36:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=P/6ZrvjrvZoU+AP9h0xX6EaC6P5F8dC9h+IYCEigxcU=; b=bLTXCkHF8pYnjNKohZZ/TnOZKXNM71tt6M3eRAwo6Ii7JLS7Eyw/bTQlo78bSARPFV yihl76pMqjoEZIgHK2nlT0Z0kE+XNyjRK4alwmslkXmnErYGFOPB0PtefsQMs0HtLaT3 kmMSBIVrKJ3f5VlgjMtXgo8peEe1EEYw+7q/c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.80.88 with SMTP id j66mr2780691wee.26.1320052329894; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.179.83 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:12:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111031040545.cc7d874f.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20111031040545.cc7d874f.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:12:09 +0100 Message-ID: From: Joe Gain To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Alejandro Imass , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:36:24 -0000 I agree, the ports are *amazing*. Even when installing a major component like kde4. If you have your base system set up correctly this very complex task will generally complete flawlessly. For a first-time install you can accept most of the default options when configuring, but it's probably not a good idea to just blindly accept every default. Experiment with the different port management software until you find something which you like. Read the documentation about dealing with common issues, making backups, saving compiler/ installation errors, etc. If you are having many problems with ports which require few dependencies, you may have a non-ports related issue of some kind. My entire system is ports based and I belong more to the user than the hacker class. Good luck! On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:36:44 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > For very large packages such as the graphics system, open or libre > > office etc. it's much better to use binary versions via pkg_add. It's > > a waste of time to compile these very large suites and most of the > > time you will get the config options wrong, and they take forever to > > compile. > > Exceptions: > > 1) You need language-specific settings. > Example: OpenOffice in German. > > 2) You need others than the default options, e. g. if you > want to include or exclude some stuff. > Example: OpenOffice without KDE. > > 3) You need options to be set at compile time that do differ > from the default options from which the binary packages > are made, or because of "artificially shit in your pants" > legal requirements and restrictions. > Example: mplayer with mencoder and all (!) codecs > > 4) You need to speed up things to make them run on older > hardware, and you fight for every optimization. > Example: mplayer's RUNTIME_CPU_DETECTION. > > But this is, I think, a case for 1% of users only. You > hardly need to do that. In most cases, the default options > are fine, and the binary packages just work. > > > > > For things you want to tailor and optimize to your needs then use the > > ports system. FBSD is so cool that it doesn't matter if you install > > one way or the other and you can use almost all methods > > interchangeably. > > A managament tool (such as portmaster or portupgrade) helps > to keep an eye on dependencies when using the many possible > ways. > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- joe gain jacob-burckhardt-str. 16 78464 konstanz germany +49 (0)7531 60389 (...otherwise in ???) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 10:04:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576C1106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE6C8FC14 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwp14 with SMTP id 14so376949wwp.31 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:04:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.60.131 with SMTP id p3mr19317551wbh.4.1320055447980; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.95.68 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:04:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [87.223.146.209] Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:04:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: Antonio Vieiro To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: FreeBSD 9.0RC1: zpool fails to import an exported pool? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:04:10 -0000 Hi all, I'm plugging this external USB drive of 250Gb on 9.0RC1 and doing this: LAB:~# zpool create MYPOOL /dev/da4 LAB:~# zpool list NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT MYPOOL 232G 89,5K 232G 0% 1.00x ONLINE - LAB:~# zpool status pool: MYPOOL state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM MYPOOL ONLINE 0 0 0 da4 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors LAB:~# zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT MYPOOL 89,5K 228G 31K /MYPOOL So far so good, now I'm trying to export and import this pool, like this: LAB:~# zpool export MYPOOL; echo $? 0 LAB:~# zpool list no pools available But importing it fails: LAB:~# zpool import; echo $? pool: MYPOOL id: 17521547345542608 state: UNAVAIL status: One or more devices contains corrupted data. action: The pool cannot be imported due to damaged devices or data. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-5E config: MYPOOL UNAVAIL insufficient replicas 8987296282819450665 UNAVAIL corrupted data 0 If I force import I get this: LAB:~# zpool import -f MYPOOL cannot import 'MYPOOL': invalid vdev configuration So how is it possible I have corrupted data from a just exported volume? Am I doing something wrong here? Thanks in advance, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 10:53:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FD31065675 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243A38FC0A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p9VAdHhW012703; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:39:18 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:39:17 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jerry In-Reply-To: <20111029120036.F09FF10656DF@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20111030142753.N12695@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20111029120036.F09FF10656DF@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:53:31 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 386, Issue 9, Message: 5 On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 07:28:24 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:27:03 -0500 (CDT) > Robert Bonomi articulated: > > > Your insistance on trying to impose -your- standards on the world, and > > denying them the 'freedom of choice' to make their own decisions on > > the matter -- e.g. "anyone offering such products should be to some > > degree held legally responsible to their worth" -- is a fascist > > mind-set. You 'know better' than anybody else, what is 'right' _for_ > > them. > > > > BTW, I'd _love_ to see Microsoft "held legally respnsible" for _their_ > > product shortcomings. They'd be out of business in a week at the > > outside. > > Once again your argument is pathetic. Microsoft has been held legally > responsible by laws written to curtail the robber barons (railroad & > oil) of the 19 and early 20th century.) Of course the EC, or is that > the USSREC, strongly backed (pushed) by Opera, a maker of a web browser > so pathetic that in two years a new upstart, "Chrome" actually has a > larger market share, led a fight to curtail Microsoft's market share. Actually, it was to curtail modern-day robber barons destroying their competition by the usual raft of monopolistic and anti-competitive techniques, but let's roll on through your gloriously OTT troll .. > This is Fascism at its best. A totally free and open market is the best > way to insure the survival of the fittest. Of course socialists cannot > survive in that environment and rush off to find ways of getting > governments involved in protecting their turf. Calling everyone who finds Microsoft's predatory behaviours 'socialist' (let alone 'fascist') and wrongly reducing to absurdity Darwin's theory to this primitive 'survival of the fittest' mantra is counterproductive to your usual function of participating in this list to sow bulk FUD on behalf of Microsoft. If I were Bill, you'd get no $points for this one. > I have absolutely no problem with holding Microsoft legally responsible > when they release a product with a bug or security flaw. However, this > must be enforced across the board and against every entity that > releases software irregardless of its price. It should probably even > include "port maintainers" who release defective ports. Lets be honest, > if that is even possible for a socialist like yourself, that if you > want to go down that road then lets go -- all the way. Microsoft would love that. They can pay fines out of the coffee and biscuit jar without blinking, while non-behemoths would be bankrupt. You would no doubt find this fair enough; survival of the fattest. > Microsoft's very existence depends on its ability to create an > operating system that allows users to fully use programming and devices > that they choose to deploy. If they cannot achieve that goal then they > die, or else have a market share equivalent to FreeBSD, virtually > undetectable. Microsoft has done a fairly good job of that. FreeBSD, > an the other non-windows operating systems, have not achieved that > goal although a few forward thinking developers like those associated > with Ubuntu have made huge strides in that direction. You are mistaken if you think the raison d'etre of FreeBSD is, or ever has been, or ever will be, to achieve Microsoft's goals of a system so simple (albeit by obfuscation of complexity) that even a fool can use it, aimed at a mass consumer market. You are wrong if you see FreeBSD, or the other BSDs, or other unix-based or unix-inspired systems (apart from Apple and a few more reactionary Linux advocates) as 'competing' in the same 'market' as Microsoft. > When it comes to > technological advances, FreeBSD is at the bottom of the list. It is > there primarily because of people who are simply willing to accept > inferiority as the norm. Microsoft's list, for sure. So transparent, Jerry. > I know I piss people off by my style of > writing. I am just not the sort of person, a socialist primarily, who > bends over and takes it up the ass everyday rather than say "ENOUGH, > lets fix this friggin mess." You cannot even get a decent "N - protocol" > wireless device, or even a not so decent one for that matter, to work > on FreeBSD while the rest of the world has had working solutions for 5 > years. What the hell are they waiting for -- the second coming of the > invisible man in the sky? Friggin PATHETIC. However, our esteemed > leadership has managed to bump the version numbers from at least 6 to > the soon to be 9 and we still have no working solution for an easy > method of securing and installing printer drivers, or any drivers for > that matter. Having to modify obscure system files and settings to get > a simple sound card to work is always a PLUS. Pathetically enough, there > are users who do actually feel that way. Apart from yourself, for obvious reasons, people who want a system that works the One Microsoft Way and have zero interest in what's going on under the hood just buy and use Windows. No skin off our noses at all, no joy engaging in combat with such people, we're not 'in that market'. You're forever telling us how good Windows is, and how everything 'just works', so why on earth would you and your alter ego ever bother running FreeBSD if you were not deriving some benefit from regularly trashing it here, according to your 'billable time' and 'cost benefit' theories? And clearly you've not been keeping up with the freebsd-wireless@ list. > Microsoft sells it products for money -- in some cases a lot of > money. FreeBSD and the open-source community as a whole (hole?) gives > it away. Yet Microsoft controls over 90% of the home market. That > alone proves my point. You cannot crate an inferior product and > expect the general population to use it simply because you give it > away? You've overplayed your hand, successful FUD relies on some subtlety. You'll have to at least pretend you don't hate free and open source systems with so much passion, if you're to become effective at it. > This discussion has gone on long enough and I am already bored by it. You started it, again. I've been away, but was unsurprised to find another invocation of this sort of discussion, and once again seeing Polytropon calmly and dispassionately pulling misconceptions to pieces, without having to disparage your overt or underlying belief systems, let alone attack you on a personal level. I admit to having less patience. > There are some posters like Poly who, while I am aware of his deeply > rooted socialist concepts does actually raise some really useful ideas > and actually to some degree attempts to qualify them. At the very > least, he is willing to discuss them -- something extremely rare in > this arena. Then there are posters like Chad who simply spews the > company line -- Microsoft is bad, we are good, the corporations owe us, > bla bla bla. You cannot hold an intelligent conversation with them > because their mind is closed. I know that as would anyone who reads this > forum with an open mind. Then Robert, there is you. A perfect example > of a large majority of users here who would rather bend over every day > and smile as it is rammed up your ass rather than scream, ENOUGH ALL > READY -- LETS FIX THIS FRIGGIN MESS NOW!. You Robert are the reason > that FreeBSD and to a large extent other non-windows OSs are trailing > the pack. You have been brain washed to believe that inferiority is the > norm and to accept it. Like a good little socialist you have fallen in > line. The problem with that philosophy Robert is if you are not the lead > dog, the view never changes. Well, that's just classic, Jerry. The only 'friggin mess' is in your head; you still don't have a clue what using an OS like FreeBSD is about and for whom it is clearly a highly advanced OS. If you care about 'n' wireless so much, grab one of the supported Atheros or other cards and get on with helping in its development. There is just no 'esteemed leadership' assigning tasks to teams of programmers, let alone having absurd goals of 'beating Microsoft' in the consumer gadgetry market; by and large, people work on what interests them or their employers. Microsoft's paradigms simply do not apply; most people here know that and get on with doing whatever it is they want to do with their systems. They know that if they need help and ask their peers for some politely and provide the needed information they will be richly rewarded, and they aren't arsed about people bitching on behalf of those who'd like BSD to go away or become subsumed in some stupid race to be 'top dog'. Woof, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 10:59:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C61106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kristen.eisenberg@yahoo.com) Received: from nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBC528FC08 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2011 10:46:46 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.164] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2011 10:46:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2011 10:46:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 18371.80278.bm@omp1020.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 67367 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Oct 2011 10:46:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1320058005; bh=jc88GxoGlHsXAqppi1o0WriOd59RSzOmGtdsAvwp8Eg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T34Jg272RJk2V39mEm5xCf3gjXkd5Wxlsgu7jIAQwfvrB4Xyk5nFXiH1CmukWuI12Jamw8iawJyHBmHi7+aZiJ1N3imi6wpdPUaOisAASUH4RjC2qrBSaSSBVY7JfUZ9lJmB9oa6Ah5AhQxezltt/c/ti1Bsr7H36Q7pKqpItZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sjKqTOmFLZnDR8uON8pWW4GIjvlAobd+RiWxU/TlNuY69tfvWElJy3hpZZVD4naBz8Gd7D2c0nBFDb0CXAcBSYjpqfXr7x44kTC+vnlYEApiREFAKle8qfYJfRvJpuBnc+cAyWkoFQlejSdcYUiaQQhzlXgy3RL7zt4fz4GCjdY=; X-YMail-OSG: XVbgzwMVM1mM_91mokHzXsHMzSypmW1uLesg5Nf4qOYcy4v pIsiFGva6vmxvKgmkRGI8C1wbfrcUJBiqzcBEqsQPVen1GO0uxNzDx3w3lVq zAUflntMmoXi0ybCj9w8G0ec14i7Q7M0ENSDolTpYJCvKu_rTDABCXhEIMVG d2tDTWF21Bx17zo8RftC0Q0.CYcQprxwmBAcjz7P9zlpCnG5rYRdke._BpAK ikfVl29bRdD.oG0WeYuNzjs7QCdYHvcPn8gauSi3_I_u.bPGsgrAtOiJk.eH mVwn4TyjSurQDm3oITfKjooKhGQXbxxsK1d9vZ4ymdDDHmkQHwxsmXf0J51S Lzx87uNskxbpMvw_U.QT1KL7DCuwgWmaxfDb2f2tg4wsooad3WPCgeaiCgIx VleeHD0wybqE8lGgBLv1.o5z.Vpub7U4.4LOIH3szFS8pvDSM_tJ.Gz2p14m MPqDF_Wr0Il8XKR2fjp5EaEDb1kpnPc.qqA-- Received: from [46.191.69.167] by web122307.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:46:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 Message-ID: <1320058005.62285.YahooMailNeo@web122307.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:46:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Kristen Eisenberg To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: A small script to customize FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kristen Eisenberg List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:59:55 -0000 I considered using the auto-detect driver, I probably should in a=0Ascript = used by many people. I did not know if there were any=0Adisadvantages to us= ing it.=0A=0A> I see the following code could do the job, but it might need= some testing :(=0A=0AThat is an interesting script - is there an advantage= over loading the=0Aauto-detect driver?=0A=0AI have trouble knowing which d= river to load, even when the system=0Atells what it loaded using the auto-d= etect driver, lol.=0A=0A=0AKristen Eisenberg=0ABillige Fl=FCge=0AMarketing = GmbH=0AEmanuelstr. 3,=0A10317 Berlin=0ADeutschland=0ATelefon: +49 (33)=0A53= 10967=0AEmail:=0Autebachmeier at=0Agmail.com=0ASite:=0Ahttp://flug.airego.d= e - Billige Fl=FCge vergleichen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 13:28:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AF3106566C for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jester@panix.com) Received: from l2mail1.panix.com (l2mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B408FC08 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by l2mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F94C1ED for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.3]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B046E286D5 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by panix3.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 834) id BFBBB8FDE0; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:08:27 -0400 From: Jesse Sheidlower To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111031130827.GA8861@panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: FreeBSD on EC2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:28:10 -0000 I've been experimenting with FreeBSD on EC2, in the hopes that I can move some systems there. I'm pleased with the possibilities, but have a two initial questions: First, the t1.micro instance, which I'm starting with, is supposed to have 10 GB of EBS storage--1GB for the kernel on the boot partition, and 9GB for the rest. But my instance only has 4.8GB on root: $ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da1s1 4.8G 4.1G 332M 93% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/da0 1.0G 21M 944M 2% /boot/grub Where's the rest? I asked about this in the EC2 forums, and someone said that it's probably unformatted space on a different partition; if so, I could use some advice about adding this to the existing root partition, and I'm also curious why this would be set up like this. 4.8GB isn't enough for me to compile everything I need, even if I put my data on another EBS volume.... Second, the FreeBSD on EC2 page at http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-on-ec2/ says that the first instance of 8.2b-RELEASE is for t1.micro instances only, but when I start this instance, I'm given the option of starting it as t1.micro, m1.small, or c1.medium (the high-CPU medium option). In production I'd like to run this as the m1.small or the m1.large instance; I guess there's no large instance possible but is there any problem with using the small? Is there any time frame for the availability of a large instance? I think I'm going to need to use EC2 instead of buying a new physical server, and I'd really rather stick with FreeBSD instead of moving to Debian.... Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 13:39:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793721065673 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1648B8FC13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh11 with SMTP id 11so1983831wyh.13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.205.213 with SMTP id fr21mr18145325wbb.16.1320068349846; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x40sm32515350wbn.19.2011.10.31.06.39.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EAEA4F9.20100@my.gd> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:39:05 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111031130827.GA8861@panix.com> In-Reply-To: <20111031130827.GA8861@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD on EC2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:39:11 -0000 On 10/31/11 2:08 PM, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: > > I've been experimenting with FreeBSD on EC2, in the hopes that I can > move some systems there. I'm pleased with the possibilities, but have a > two initial questions: > > First, the t1.micro instance, which I'm starting with, is supposed to > have 10 GB of EBS storage--1GB for the kernel on the boot partition, and > 9GB for the rest. But my instance only has 4.8GB on root: > > $ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da1s1 4.8G 4.1G 332M 93% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/da0 1.0G 21M 944M 2% /boot/grub > fdisk /dev/da1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 13:56:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35F7106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A42F8FC14 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnq2 with SMTP id q2so7880770ggn.13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:56:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references :disposition-notification-to:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=PaO13ScOxXzrDQYrxFBQ7zK/UHuoHLrATrksz6gDKjo=; b=b+b6IRsRybHs64wXMByUFRnkrEk5OMzVKYJQLq0ImF7N7PIaJUW8jsrRRiIHKtXYMS BNMxA7rT/GB18ViJX+Br5ySxYzJph1VPJGEM88azzLnrqHs5wAku15gHx7gdBlxMrhMW otN1hkPfQYFtKQLdeQtIxd3e+YuuUMu0i0SxI= Received: by 10.150.59.19 with SMTP id h19mr8916625yba.41.1320069411645; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.6.230] ([201.21.151.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l18sm25145640anb.22.2011.10.31.06.56.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:56:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Fbsd8 In-Reply-To: <4EAE4173.7010603@a1poweruser.com> References: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> <1319987010.21810.13.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> <4EAE4173.7010603@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:56:44 -0200 Message-ID: <1320069404.35399.21.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Peter , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Solution for school lab just a thought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:56:52 -0000 > You should look into the Freebsd port qjail. At our school lab all the > pcs have ms/windows on the hard drive with the "putty" client installed. > Students use putty to get logged into a jail on a single Freebsd system. > Each student can practice installing ports, packages, or one of the > desktop window environments in their private jail. The goal being to > teach students to be system administrators. Humm Interesting... In my case the computers runs FreeBSD (diskless) and they need do access windows system. In a public school, where the $$$ is the main problem, I think this is the solution. Here the school has computers (a lot) that receives from donation, projects... from time to time the problem is the software... What to teach to children??? word, exel, powerpoint, msn??? is this teaching??? I think that children (and teenagers too), must face problems and resolve them. the world belongs tho those that work in group. those who can get answers, so an account in a desktop environment (in my case: gnome) with several program languages, internet access, text composing (libreoffice), postscript printing (cups), some IDE (anjuta, eclipse), multimedia (ffmpeg, avidemux2, openshot, dvdstyler) can make the difference. They can download small videos from their phones, and produce digital media, share it on DVDs... the home lesson is send via email (everyone has email).. One problem is hand-witten... no one wants to hand write now... Those who foresee the future, can learn how to code GUI interface, and so produce software for the community. They can learn how to install admin FreeBSD servers, share files in the network, use webdav to share files in internet... and so on... There is a need for people with this knowledge... The society will buy from the students as long as they produce good software.. What is the other alternative??? finish high school and than look for a job??? XXI century there is no jobs, there will be working people... Those who can succeed working for himself will rule.. That is what I teach to my boys... They worked hard (12 years)... and now they rule.. Do you really think that this world crisis will end in 10 years??? Just a thought... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 14:45:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FE11065672 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f173.google.com (mail-vx0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626328FC16 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so1042426vcb.18 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:45:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=OH145u9KLhcvibFyIyWjVeWz3pX4sMXqBqC3KhPEpeg=; b=Bl97QQrfH6r+9ggfq72a1zvyMjTQtUv4irlBKJHHh7m2KvqFwctXF2L/osP9WMwf3I 18unqMh9MANwJlNKdi4igZm4SBxLEEk7LWJCst7Qw2pijHg4QUKqGpXeqaOaAb6cgxFU w4X+LyjDfrqGVC1i50FtERGC1J/MAOlOa9/2c= Received: by 10.52.94.97 with SMTP id db1mr4477700vdb.67.1320072343991; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([181.42.66.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id et7sm3750706vdc.18.2011.10.31.07.45.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:45:43 -0700 (PDT) References: <20111031040545.cc7d874f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <557A48F1-B4A0-407D-A8F1-1502990AE31E@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:45:44 -0300 To: Joe Gain Cc: Alejandro Imass , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:45:45 -0000 then, as the system must be configured?, I thought as I was was perfect. I h= ave a laptop with intel core i5.=20 PS: I think that occupying FreeBSD or OpenBSD, and you should consider ;) Zantgo El 31-10-2011, a las 6:12, Joe Gain escribi=C3=B3: > I agree, the ports are *amazing*. Even when installing a major component > like kde4. If you have your base system set up correctly this very complex= > task will generally complete flawlessly. For a first-time install you can > accept most of the default options when configuring, but it's probably not= > a good idea to just blindly accept every default. >=20 > Experiment with the different port management software until you find > something which you like. Read the documentation about dealing with common= > issues, making backups, saving compiler/ installation errors, etc. >=20 > If you are having many problems with ports which require few dependencies,= > you may have a non-ports related issue of some kind. >=20 > My entire system is ports based and I belong more to the user than the > hacker class. >=20 > Good luck! >=20 > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Polytropon wrote: >=20 >> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:36:44 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: >>> For very large packages such as the graphics system, open or libre >>> office etc. it's much better to use binary versions via pkg_add. It's >>> a waste of time to compile these very large suites and most of the >>> time you will get the config options wrong, and they take forever to >>> compile. >>=20 >> Exceptions: >>=20 >> 1) You need language-specific settings. >> Example: OpenOffice in German. >>=20 >> 2) You need others than the default options, e. g. if you >> want to include or exclude some stuff. >> Example: OpenOffice without KDE. >>=20 >> 3) You need options to be set at compile time that do differ >> from the default options from which the binary packages >> are made, or because of "artificially shit in your pants" >> legal requirements and restrictions. >> Example: mplayer with mencoder and all (!) codecs >>=20 >> 4) You need to speed up things to make them run on older >> hardware, and you fight for every optimization. >> Example: mplayer's RUNTIME_CPU_DETECTION. >>=20 >> But this is, I think, a case for 1% of users only. You >> hardly need to do that. In most cases, the default options >> are fine, and the binary packages just work. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> For things you want to tailor and optimize to your needs then use the >>> ports system. FBSD is so cool that it doesn't matter if you install >>> one way or the other and you can use almost all methods >>> interchangeably. >>=20 >> A managament tool (such as portmaster or portupgrade) helps >> to keep an eye on dependencies when using the many possible >> ways. >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Polytropon >> Magdeburg, Germany >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > joe gain >=20 > jacob-burckhardt-str. 16 > 78464 konstanz > germany >=20 > +49 (0)7531 60389 >=20 > (...otherwise in ???) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 15:09:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3F5106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B298FC13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9VF9Zrc068422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:09:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p9VF9Z9i047814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:09:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p9VF9ZXI047812; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:09:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:09:34 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Damien Fleuriot Message-ID: <20111031150934.GO93709@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:09:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Modulok Subject: Re: idletime in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:09:37 -0000 In the last episode (Oct 31), Damien Fleuriot said: > On 30 Oct 2011, at 16:45, Modulok wrote: > > List, > > > > Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes. > > > > Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class: > > > > :idletime=10m: > > > > I then rebuilt the database: > > > > cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf > > > > Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20 > > minutes or more. I'm missing something. Other than an autologout shell > > variables, how do I force idle users to logout? > > Are these users that logged in after or before your change ? > > Obviously the idle timeout only applies to users who logged in after you > adjusted the value and rebuilt the db. Actually, the idle timeout is not implemented in the base system. It's there in case someone writes a 3rd-party module that does idle detection. See the login.conf manpage: RESERVED CAPABILITIES The following capabilities are reserved for the purposes indicated and may be supported by third-party software. They are not implemented in the base system. [...] idletime time Maximum idle time before logout. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 15:42:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105A2106566B for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE748FC15 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qw0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z32so6774299qad.13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:42:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IYsSJHnU2EnduTlxlPRXsuIrqE7p/RlPLkEd9tTQ/Oo=; b=dXTOFiD5HXIqF6ZpkMmn5NQ8XaRTTUxNMlJfUStASwF3HplDov2WJNRhb9tOszricc WzR1NYytE5eU01W2k0INnWD+hyArUWlVjUFjhXPcVav5Jvn7Xe3F2GWoRQC/yajGVbUq kZuAzDte7cGlEXljzCLwXvIO5X4KSVBKTGWM0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.94.200 with SMTP id a8mr3118450qcn.128.1320075777484; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.220.69 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:42:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111031130827.GA8861@panix.com> References: <20111031130827.GA8861@panix.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:42:56 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Jesse Sheidlower Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on EC2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:42:58 -0000 On 31 October 2011 13:08, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: > > I've been experimenting with FreeBSD on EC2, in the hopes that I can > move some systems there. I'm pleased with the possibilities, but have a > two initial questions: > > First, the t1.micro instance, which I'm starting with, is supposed to > have 10 GB of EBS storage--1GB for the kernel on the boot partition, and > 9GB for the rest. But my instance only has 4.8GB on root: > > $ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da1s1 4.8G 4.1G 332M 93% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/da0 1.0G 21M 944M 2% /boot/grub > > Where's the rest? I asked about this in the EC2 forums, and someone said > that it's probably unformatted space on a different partition; if so, I > could use some advice about adding this to the existing root partition, > and I'm also curious why this would be set up like this. 4.8GB isn't > enough for me to compile everything I need, even if I put my data on > another EBS volume.... > > Second, the FreeBSD on EC2 page at > http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-on-ec2/ says that the first instance > of 8.2b-RELEASE is for t1.micro instances only, but when I start this > instance, I'm given the option of starting it as t1.micro, m1.small, or > c1.medium (the high-CPU medium option). In production I'd like to run > this as the m1.small or the m1.large instance; I guess there's no large > instance possible but is there any problem with using the small? Is > there any time frame for the availability of a large instance? I think > I'm going to need to use EC2 instead of buying a new physical server, > and I'd really rather stick with FreeBSD instead of moving to Debian.... > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > dont compile on the system build packages or tar up your /usr/local, and /var/db/pkg trees and deploy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 14:24:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56326106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camal@rabita.az) Received: from newmail.rabita.az (newmail.rabita.az [85.132.70.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13198FC1C for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.9may.az [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rabita.az (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FE414D81F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:57:23 +0400 (AZT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 85.132.70.6 Received: from newmail.rabita.az ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (85.132.70.6 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ct1PJLYqWr+B for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:57:22 +0400 (AZT) Received: from QabrielPC (unknown [188.72.189.189]) by newmail.rabita.az (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A3B14D815 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:57:22 +0400 (AZT) From: "Camal" To: Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:56:52 +0400 Message-ID: <000301cc97d4$f2007940$d6016bc0$@az> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcyX1PFG/gud73CQSmiVTtYd2dldYQ== Content-Language: en-us X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:50:27 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: came error from nc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:24:37 -0000 Hi. My name is Jamal. I am from Azerbaijan. When I tried open local port with "nc" and send to him "/usr/local/bin/bash" came error. nc -l 12345 -e /bin/bash , Error -> nc: getaddrinfo: servname not supported for ai_socktype in /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts files checked all of was right. Why is it so? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 16:11:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FDD106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB3A8FC12 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9VGB0eM074906 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:11:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p9VGB0YS080296 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:11:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p9VGB021080295; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:11:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:11:00 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Camal Message-ID: <20111031161100.GR93709@dan.emsphone.com> References: <000301cc97d4$f2007940$d6016bc0$@az> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000301cc97d4$f2007940$d6016bc0$@az> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:11:01 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: came error from nc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:11:02 -0000 In the last episode (Oct 31), Camal said: > Hi. My name is Jamal. > > I am from Azerbaijan. > > When I tried open local port with "nc" and send to him > "/usr/local/bin/bash" came error. > > nc -l 12345 -e /bin/bash > , Error -> > nc: getaddrinfo: servname not supported for ai_socktype > > in /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts files checked all of was right. > > Why is it so? I can't reproduce your error message, but your command won't do what you want anyway. The nc command that comes with FreeBSD doesn't support the "listen on a socket and run a command" option. Its -e is an ipsec option. If you install /usr/ports/net/netcat and use that command, it should work: netcat -l -p 12345 -e /usr/local/bin/bash -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 17:25:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16463106566B for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF778FC13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CBC3EC4E; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:25:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9VHPSVc001922; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:25:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:25:28 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Zantgo Message-Id: <20111031182528.619b9b83.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <557A48F1-B4A0-407D-A8F1-1502990AE31E@gmail.com> References: <20111031040545.cc7d874f.freebsd@edvax.de> <557A48F1-B4A0-407D-A8F1-1502990AE31E@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:25:31 -0000 On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:45:44 -0300, Zantgo wrote: > then, as the system must be configured?, I thought as I was > was perfect. I have a laptop with intel core i5. The ports should work without any further configuration change, no matter if you've installed via Internet or from an installation media. If you encounter problems, please post informative text to this list, i. e. the command you've executed and the relevant error messages, and maybe specific things you've changed, e. g. global CFLAGS and other things one should not do. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:36:42 -0000 =0AI booted the 8.2-RELEASE CD on my Intel mac mini, which has a thumb driv= e plugged into USB.=0A=0AI promptly entered FIXIT and used dd to zero out t= he ENTIRE internal hard drive.=A0 I may use it, I may not, but for now I wa= nt to reduce variables and I don't want remnants of OSX on that disk trippi= ng me up.=0A=0AI exited FIXIT and proceeded with a plain old install of Fre= eBSD 8.2 onto the thumb drive, which was seen as da0.=A0 Upon rebooting, I = see a folder icon with a question mark inside of it, blinking on the screen= .=A0 The mac mini cannot see an OS to boot.=0A=0AI have tried to solve this= by:=0A=0A- same as above, but "plain old" loader instead of FreeBSD boot m= anager.=A0 Both failed=0A=0A- During install, in FDISK, using the "T" optio= n to change the type to 238=0A=0AStill failing.=A0 Any idea what the missin= g part of this recipe is=0A ?=0A=0ANOTE:=A0 I see something of an answer he= re:=0A=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2011-September/= 027585.html=0A=0ABut I do not know how to "put a dummy MBR there even if us= ing GPT layout" ... so if that is the answer, some additional details, plea= se :)=0A=0AJust trying to boot FreeBSD, and only FreeBSD, off of the thumb = drive plugged into a mac mini with no other disks.=A0 Any help appreciated.= =0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 18:25:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA986106566B for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C838FC1A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6523D6EBEF3; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:25:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=e-e.com; h= user-agent:organization:in-reply-to:content-disposition :content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:subject:from:from:date:date:received:received:received; s=ee; t=1320085534; x=1321899934; bh=oHMAOktKpE5F2dWp6sorzntnEn i/SmX5wSLE/N11nHM=; b=WcBT88DZJU5Wo56bEySOsuPKTwNpRC9moDw0PFLXbE j3dTQ38BFoO4p2DnDjKgwvKNT8q4H8KnM4l/nUOfHpxkjtQiEoOXv7Ft4RpWBlaa jwB6x2+pzqtliuNtC83b5tjIvyuDJa0gVAvOv1Cy9E2ubGKwb0oniNzdmHoryQxx g= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s+alcmpU+5LS; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.103.122]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 401B36EBEDD; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (nullmailer pid 47083 invoked by uid 1001); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:25:32 -0000 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:25:32 -0700 From: Jason Helfman To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20111031182532.GF82316@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <20111031150934.GO93709@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111031150934.GO93709@dan.emsphone.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE Organization: Experts-Exchange, LLC. http://www.experts-exchange.com X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Damien Fleuriot , FreeBSD Questions , Modulok Subject: Re: idletime in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:25:34 -0000 On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:09:34AM -0500, Dan Nelson thus spake: >In the last episode (Oct 31), Damien Fleuriot said: >> On 30 Oct 2011, at 16:45, Modulok wrote: >> > List, >> > >> > Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes. >> > >> > Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class: >> > >> > :idletime=10m: >> > >> > I then rebuilt the database: >> > >> > cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf >> > >> > Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20 >> > minutes or more. I'm missing something. Other than an autologout shell >> > variables, how do I force idle users to logout? >> >> Are these users that logged in after or before your change ? >> >> Obviously the idle timeout only applies to users who logged in after you >> adjusted the value and rebuilt the db. > >Actually, the idle timeout is not implemented in the base system. It's >there in case someone writes a 3rd-party module that does idle detection. >See the login.conf manpage: > >RESERVED CAPABILITIES > The following capabilities are reserved for the purposes indicated and > may be supported by third-party software. They are not implemented in > the base system. >[...] > idletime time Maximum idle time before logout. > > You may want to look into /usr/ports/sysutils/doinkd for this. I use it on many systems, and it works remarkable well, and it is highly configurable. -jgh -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 19:12:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD6D106566C for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF508FC13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBF8E9.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.248.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p9VJCcG3004938; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:12:39 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p9VJCRAQ003529; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:12:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9VJBvFL058118; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:12:03 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201110311912.p9VJBvFL058118@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Jason Helfman From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:25:32 MST." <20111031182532.GF82316@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:11:57 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Damien Fleuriot , Dan Nelson , FreeBSD Questions , Modulok Subject: Re: idletime in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:12:51 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Jason Helfman > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:25:32 -0700 > Message-id: <20111031182532.GF82316@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Jason Helfman wrote: > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:09:34AM -0500, Dan Nelson thus spake: > >In the last episode (Oct 31), Damien Fleuriot said: > >> On 30 Oct 2011, at 16:45, Modulok wrote: > >> > List, > >> > > >> > Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes. > >> > > >> > Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class: > >> > > >> > :idletime=10m: > >> > > >> > I then rebuilt the database: > >> > > >> > cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf > >> > > >> > Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20 > >> > minutes or more. I'm missing something. Other than an autologout shell > >> > variables, how do I force idle users to logout? > >> > >> Are these users that logged in after or before your change ? > >> > >> Obviously the idle timeout only applies to users who logged in after you > >> adjusted the value and rebuilt the db. > > > >Actually, the idle timeout is not implemented in the base system. It's > >there in case someone writes a 3rd-party module that does idle detection. > >See the login.conf manpage: > > > >RESERVED CAPABILITIES > > The following capabilities are reserved for the purposes indicated and > > may be supported by third-party software. They are not implemented in > > the base system. > >[...] > > idletime time Maximum idle time before logout. > > > > > You may want to look into /usr/ports/sysutils/doinkd for this. I use it on > many systems, and it works remarkable well, and it is highly configurable. > > -jgh > > -- > Jason Helfman > System Administrator That was a useful tip, but people (inc. self) will not remember. Suggestion: use send-pr to submit a diff to add SEE ALSO ports/sysutils/doinkd to man login.conf Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 19:26:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18EA106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:26:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E038FC15 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RKxVZ-0001Dv-5K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:26:57 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:26:57 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:26:57 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:27 -0400 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <20111031040545.cc7d874f.freebsd@edvax.de> <557A48F1-B4A0-407D-A8F1-1502990AE31E@gmail.com> <20111031182528.619b9b83.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:26:58 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:45:44 -0300, Zantgo wrote: >> then, as the system must be configured?, I thought as I was >> was perfect. I have a laptop with intel core i5. > > The ports should work without any further configuration > change, no matter if you've installed via Internet or > from an installation media. > > If you encounter problems, please post informative text > to this list, i. e. the command you've executed and the > relevant error messages, and maybe specific things you've > changed, e. g. global CFLAGS and other things one should > not do. :-) We should probably try and discover if he had learned how to update the ports tree as well. Many new users can easily get the ports tree installed by simply agreeing to the suggestion in sysinstall, but do not yet know it is best to update it first prior to installing software. I have always suspected that unknowingly utilizing the already out-of-date tree from the initial install is probably what causes most newcomers' problems with ports. My practice is to only do a basic install plus ports tree, with no third party application packages. Then update ports tree and begin installing apps. I learned this the hard way from experience over 11 years ago. When I first started with FreeBSD (circa 4.0.0) I would have some packages installed and then try using the ports system, and stuff would break. Learning to cvsup the ports tree is what took care of a lot of that. Then I learned portupgrade and things got even better again. But I recall the jumbled mish- mash of brokenness I had early on as a neophyte, and what the OP is describing sounds a lot like my early experience. Learning to properly admin the system made all of that a thing of the distant past. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 19:42:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53788106566B for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:42:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC0E8FC08 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5E96EBE73 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:42:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=e-e.com; h= user-agent:organization:in-reply-to:content-disposition :content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:subject:from:from:date:date:received:received:received; s=ee; t=1320090159; x=1321904559; bh=mPCD3C1NLhVTZcYdm1qd+8Wl1P mksAYhxkM0Y7bORE0=; b=Dp9Mw5+X+bd00U223LGGOxJwJxMVTYX8LbEoRzcvpj J2KbPix4ouJpj5rw7WYwzHedI+aHOg66VtbfCMbvjOpZOZwf3yDxUNIyukxKzDHG Kw14D/431jA4ai5s8m/N0py9I7iPWFd6vbjx5mC0UXXiR3YlcC7ixU4NwQCadKDj A= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kQc3CTishzTq for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.103.122]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C87176EBE3C for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (nullmailer pid 65796 invoked by uid 1001); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:42:37 -0000 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:42:37 -0700 From: Jason Helfman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111031194237.GA65734@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <20111031182532.GF82316@eggman.experts-exchange.com> <201110311912.p9VJBvFL058118@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201110311912.p9VJBvFL058118@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE Organization: Experts-Exchange, LLC. http://www.experts-exchange.com X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: idletime in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:42:41 -0000 On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 08:11:57PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey thus spake: >Hi, >Reference: >> From: Jason Helfman >> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:25:32 -0700 >> Message-id: <20111031182532.GF82316@eggman.experts-exchange.com> > >Jason Helfman wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:09:34AM -0500, Dan Nelson thus spake: >> >In the last episode (Oct 31), Damien Fleuriot said: >> >> On 30 Oct 2011, at 16:45, Modulok wrote: >> >> > List, >> >> > >> >> > Goal: Automatically logoff users that are idle after 'x' minutes. >> >> > >> >> > Attempt: I added this to /etc/login.conf to the default login class: >> >> > >> >> > :idletime=10m: >> >> > >> >> > I then rebuilt the database: >> >> > >> >> > cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf >> >> > >> >> > Problem: It doesn't work. The 'w' command shows users idle for 20 >> >> > minutes or more. I'm missing something. Other than an autologout shell >> >> > variables, how do I force idle users to logout? >> >> >> >> Are these users that logged in after or before your change ? >> >> >> >> Obviously the idle timeout only applies to users who logged in after you >> >> adjusted the value and rebuilt the db. >> > >> >Actually, the idle timeout is not implemented in the base system. It's >> >there in case someone writes a 3rd-party module that does idle detection. >> >See the login.conf manpage: >> > >> >RESERVED CAPABILITIES >> > The following capabilities are reserved for the purposes indicated and >> > may be supported by third-party software. They are not implemented in >> > the base system. >> >[...] >> > idletime time Maximum idle time before logout. >> > >> > >> You may want to look into /usr/ports/sysutils/doinkd for this. I use it on >> many systems, and it works remarkable well, and it is highly configurable. >> >> -jgh >> >> -- >> Jason Helfman >> System Administrator > >That was a useful tip, but people (inc. self) will not remember. >Suggestion: use send-pr to submit a diff to add > SEE ALSO ports/sysutils/doinkd >to man login.conf > >Cheers, >Julian > I don't believe doinkd respects the values of login.conf, however you may use those values for what is configurable for doinkd. I don't believe it is the correct place in a base man page for mentioning a port in the FreeBSD tree, or in at least this case. If you feel it is, feel free to send in a problem report. I, myself, will not be filing a report for this item. -jgh -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 19:50:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98846106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B9D8FC14 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfk26 with SMTP id fk26so1932417vcb.13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:50:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=g2OxGQl+iYB2LzlcA0PKtomoz+W+Ki4VLJyQlsguVEc=; b=oXVGsUtp1lnYUEB+7zEQoooUKdboGW//JTKwFGIQlvZ5oib0JZCXGMZr+ueq8ZltFH 1p/FGPTygU/8TuYJvj8JmueUusFR/HheCwD8blyBRktVMuqe871ir5uqvIKyckgjbJbf lytLoOzaIBN3+pHBXuxl7HWcS1uCFE7Z/OBkI= Received: by 10.220.150.142 with SMTP id y14mr2479470vcv.269.1320090617450; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.43.112] ([200.72.211.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j4sm11284520vdk.5.2011.10.31.12.50.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:50:11 -0300 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: What are the technical differences between Linux and BSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:50:18 -0000 I mean, like BSD is based on the original UNIX, and Linux on System V, Linux= should include new technologies, or why not?, Is that Linux includes more n= ew hardware, but I mean as is "within "management technologies, security, et= c. .. PD: I know that BSD is more secure, stable and fast, although in relation to= performance, ports are not very fast. Zantgo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 19:59:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101E6106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88B98FC17 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149821E3F5; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:59:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9VJxSLV002265; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:59:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:59:28 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Zantgo Message-Id: <20111031205928.35244cdf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: What are the technical differences between Linux and BSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:59:31 -0000 On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:50:11 -0300, Zantgo wrote: > I mean, like BSD is based on the original UNIX, and Linux on > System V, Linux should include new technologies, or why not?, > Is that Linux includes more new hardware, but I mean as is > "within "management technologies, security, etc. .. Compage to "The UNIX system family tree: Research and BSD" found in /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree on your local installation. Also keep in mind that while FreeBSD has a concept of "the operating system" and "ported applications" / "3rd party software", Linux does not have such a differentiation, so it's a bit complicated of comparing "just the OSes" to each other. Things like security and hardware support have their basics within the kernel, those are abstracted by libraries; some of them are part of the OS, others are provided by additional software. > PD: I know that BSD is more secure, stable and fast, although > in relation to performance, ports are not very fast. I don't think so. It's possible that ports, compiled for the architecture in use, as well with using optimizations that are not part of the default settings (with which the packages are made) can benefit _faster_ operations of ports vs. packages. An example is mplayer, when compiled for older systems: Here flags depending on the CPU actually in use can help. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 21:12:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCEA106566B for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E365A8FC21 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (63.9.74.86.rev.sfr.net [86.74.9.63]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6CFE1FAA31A5; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:12:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8EB7306F; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:05 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: bf1783@gmail.com Message-ID: <20111031211205.2fdb2773@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: bf1783@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: (8.2) share lib and ldconfig problem. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:12:11 -0000 Le Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:49:45 -0400, "b. f." a crit : > > Portgrade did a copy of the lib into /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg and > > run ldconfig. But the lib does not appear in the listing of the > > ldconfig cache : > > You mean portupgrade, probably? Yes, it was in the sentence :) > Since your broken binary seems to need *.so.46, you can try adding > symlinks between the corresponding *.so.46 and *.so.46.1, or you can > rebuild the dependent port. I've made a script to add the missing symlinks. Thanks for your explanations. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 22:01:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5651065672 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwoody@citytel.net) Received: from mail.citytel.net (mail.citytel.net [209.145.111.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D7908FC08 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pop.citytel.net (pop.citytel.net [209.145.111.50]) by mail.citytel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FA967FBB for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:41:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:41:30 -0800 (PST) From: Keith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111031132920.A86972@pop.citytel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: RAID5 speed question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:01:29 -0000 Have an ancient 4.1R mail server to replace. It has about 3000 accounts. Usual /var/mail to store mail. /var/mail is RAID5 on an old Dell PERC3 card. Its worked pretty well and have lived through 3 drive failures over the years. New Dell box with a PERC5/i. Same drive setup, a 500GB RAID5 for /var/mail. I do an ls -l in /var/mail on the old 4.10 machine and I get a directory listing in about 2 seconds. This is about 3000 mailboxes. On the new machine running 7.3 with the PERC5/i I rsync'd /var/mail and do an ls -l and it takes a full 22 seconds to get a directory listing. A plain ls in /var/mail on both machines is instantaneous. I know RAID5 is not 'optimal' for this but I'm surprised at the difference in how long it takes to do a directory listing using ls -l on the new machine compared to the old one. The new array is 500GB compared to about 36GB on the older machine. Shouldn't a long directory listing be faster on the PERC5/i compared to the old PERC3? Other than that the new machine in all other aspects is faster, a lot faster. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 22:09:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AE2106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB788FC14 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11so2431948gyb.13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.190.199 with SMTP id e47mr19050136yhn.97.1320098944294; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi.localnet ([186.212.226.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w69sm27844061yhl.15.2011.10.31.15.09.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:09:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:09:25 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> <4EAE4173.7010603@a1poweruser.com> <1320069404.35399.21.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> In-Reply-To: <1320069404.35399.21.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201110311909.25595.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Solution for school lab just a thought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:09:05 -0000 On Monday 31 October 2011 10:56:44 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > > You should look into the Freebsd port qjail. At our school lab all the > > pcs have ms/windows on the hard drive with the "putty" client installed. > > Students use putty to get logged into a jail on a single Freebsd system. > > Each student can practice installing ports, packages, or one of the > > desktop window environments in their private jail. The goal being to > > teach students to be system administrators. > > Humm Interesting... > In my case the computers runs FreeBSD (diskless) and they need do > access > windows system. > In a public school, where the $$$ is the main problem, I think this is > the solution. > Here the school has computers (a lot) that receives from donation, > projects... from time to time > the problem is the software... > What to teach to children??? word, exel, powerpoint, msn??? is this > teaching??? > > I think that children (and teenagers too), must face problems and > resolve them. > the world belongs tho those that work in group. those who can get > answers, > so an account in a desktop environment (in my case: gnome) with several > program > languages, internet access, text composing (libreoffice), postscript > printing (cups), > some IDE (anjuta, eclipse), multimedia (ffmpeg, avidemux2, openshot, > dvdstyler) > can make the difference. They can download small videos from their > phones, and > produce digital media, share it on DVDs... the home lesson is send via > email (everyone > has email).. One problem is hand-witten... no one wants to hand write > now... > > Those who foresee the future, can learn how to code GUI interface, and > so produce > software for the community. They can learn how to install admin FreeBSD > servers, > share files in the network, use webdav to share files in internet... and > so on... > > There is a need for people with this knowledge... The society will buy > from the > students as long as they produce good software.. > > What is the other alternative??? finish high school and than look for a > job??? > XXI century there is no jobs, there will be working people... Those who > can > succeed working for himself will rule.. That is what I teach to my > boys... > They worked hard (12 years)... and now they rule.. > > Do you really think that this world crisis will end in 10 years??? > > Just a thought... > > Sergio > Picture an arrow whistling through the wind, undisturbed, and hitting the bullseye dead in its perfect center, That's what your thought is to me, Sergio. +10 ! Thank you. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 22:33:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCE2106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A638FC19 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p9VMXXfa099551 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:33:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:33:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201110312233.p9VMXXfa099551@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: What are the technical differences between Linux and BSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:33:26 -0000 On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:50:11 -0300, Zantgo the village idiot, wrote > > I mean, like BSD is based on the original UNIX, and Linux on System V, FALSE TO FACT. > Linux should include new technologies, or why not?, Is that Linux includes > more new hardware, but I mean as is "within "management technologies, > security, etc. .. > > PD: I know that BSD is more secure, stable and fast, although in relation to performance, ports are not very fast. You "don't know what you don't know", and are in error about most of what you think you _do_ know. You would be well advised to read a number of the 'classical' reference books about Unix: "The Design of the Unix Operating System" "The Design of the BSD 4.4 Operating System" "Unix System Administration Handbook" are a good set to start with. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 22:54:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05501065673 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1E08FC13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:54:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.191.231.254) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:57:11 -0600 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:54:38 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez In-Reply-To: <201110311909.25595.lobo@bsd.com.br> References: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> <4EAE4173.7010603@a1poweruser.com> <1320069404.35399.21.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> <201110311909.25595.lobo@bsd.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3402946631-313538087@intranet.com.mx> Subject: Re: Solution for school lab just a thought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:54:53 -0000 Hello all. Sergio. Would you mind to contact me offline (maybe some people in the list won't be interested) I help communities and non profit (very poor) organizations here and would like to know more about your schema and results. Here also we get "donattions" of hardware. The old 386 and so, computers that big companies do not use anymore and with that we have to work. We are also trying to giving the kids a chance to learn something else so they can compete in a hard job market. Thanks in advance Jorge Biquez jbiquez@intranet.com.mx At 04:09 p.m. 31/10/2011, Mario Lobo wrote: >On Monday 31 October 2011 10:56:44 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > > > You should look into the Freebsd port qjail. At our school lab all the > > > pcs have ms/windows on the hard drive with the "putty" client installed. > > > Students use putty to get logged into a jail on a single Freebsd system. > > > Each student can practice installing ports, packages, or one of the > > > desktop window environments in their private jail. The goal being to > > > teach students to be system administrators. > > > > Humm Interesting... > > In my case the computers runs FreeBSD (diskless) and they need do > > access > > windows system. > > In a public school, where the $$$ is the main problem, I think this is > > the solution. > > Here the school has computers (a lot) that receives from donation, > > projects... from time to time > > the problem is the software... > > What to teach to children??? word, exel, powerpoint, msn??? is this > > teaching??? > > > > I think that children (and teenagers too), must face problems and > > resolve them. > > the world belongs tho those that work in group. those who can get > > answers, > > so an account in a desktop environment (in my case: gnome) with several > > program > > languages, internet access, text composing (libreoffice), postscript > > printing (cups), > > some IDE (anjuta, eclipse), multimedia (ffmpeg, avidemux2, openshot, > > dvdstyler) > > can make the difference. They can download small videos from their > > phones, and > > produce digital media, share it on DVDs... the home lesson is send via > > email (everyone > > has email).. One problem is hand-witten... no one wants to hand write > > now... > > > > Those who foresee the future, can learn how to code GUI interface, and > > so produce > > software for the community. They can learn how to install admin FreeBSD > > servers, > > share files in the network, use webdav to share files in internet... and > > so on... > > > > There is a need for people with this knowledge... The society will buy > > from the > > students as long as they produce good software.. > > > > What is the other alternative??? finish high school and than look for a > > job??? > > XXI century there is no jobs, there will be working people... Those who > > can > > succeed working for himself will rule.. That is what I teach to my > > boys... > > They worked hard (12 years)... and now they rule.. > > > > Do you really think that this world crisis will end in 10 years??? > > > > Just a thought... > > > > Sergio > > > >Picture an arrow whistling through the wind, undisturbed, and hitting the >bullseye dead in its perfect center, > >That's what your thought is to me, Sergio. > >+10 ! > >Thank you. > >-- >Mario Lobo >http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br >FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 01:43:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC9A1065670 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 01:43:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f45.google.com (mail-vw0-f45.google.com [209.85.212.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E74B8FC08 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 01:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so1057257vws.18 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:43:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=XFMXsz3toEYKLr0i0B/MeEfrIo8SRcIebQaMkUXL4OE=; b=pLmbLt2O98E3hlMq9YZyXGUX5JujsdWEutlrXp2M8kUr5d/YfLh96bkii46k2AGlDU CG6IKNLYvRy4K+a/KTLUG2LJSeXdmRgtIc48ZAbDYv7Wq89NCVP8APO/SZWLQ3DTXq9q +Gu6gV1ASh413m3v8865X33bY93AUpbyRtL18= Received: by 10.52.69.235 with SMTP id h11mr6407669vdu.92.1320111788660; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([181.42.66.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l4sm12496493vdv.4.2011.10.31.18.43.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) Message-Id: <3C65EC6C-F7B4-4941-B9FD-E2AFBF74CAD3@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:42:46 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Install gnome 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 01:43:09 -0000 How I can install Gnome3? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 02:52:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DDC106566B for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 02:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD438FC13 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 02:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE571E27B; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:52:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pA12qT23004273; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:52:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:52:29 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Zantgo Message-Id: <20111101035229.9a2e04c1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3C65EC6C-F7B4-4941-B9FD-E2AFBF74CAD3@gmail.com> References: <3C65EC6C-F7B4-4941-B9FD-E2AFBF74CAD3@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install gnome 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 02:52:31 -0000 On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:42:46 -0300, Zantgo wrote: > How I can install Gnome3? Try this: http://forums.pcbsd.org/showthread.php?t=14811 When Gnome 3 is officially in the ports tree, I think it will be noted on the FreeBSD GNOME Project page: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/ If you want a smartphone GUI on your desktop... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 04:20:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E851065673 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 04:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25B78FC0C for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 04:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pA14L41g001348 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:21:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:21:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201111010421.pA14L41g001348@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3C65EC6C-F7B4-4941-B9FD-E2AFBF74CAD3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Install gnome 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 04:20:56 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 31 20:44:18 2011 > From: Zantgo > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:42:46 -0300 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Install gnome 3 > > How I can install Gnome3? I'm torn between two facitous answers, based on the degree of ineptness in executing the clue mating dance, even under otherwise optimize conditions, so, I'll let _you_ choose: a) 'badly." b) "instll Gnome2, then perform half the upgrade to Gnome 4." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 06:15:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC7F106566B for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 06:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CF28FC14 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 06:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id pA16FBHh066234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:15:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id pA16FA6G066233; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA08632; Mon, 31 Oct 11 22:10:10 PST Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:08:42 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Message-Id: <4eafef5a.xn0KmWlZlGCMzFaA%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20111031040545.cc7d874f.freebsd@edvax.de> <557A48F1-B4A0-407D-A8F1-1502990AE31E@gmail.com> <20111031182528.619b9b83.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:15:12 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: > I have always suspected that unknowingly utilizing the already > out-of-date tree from the initial install is probably what causes > most newcomers' problems with ports. My experience is exactly the opposite. The biggest problem I've had with ports came from trying to follow the recommended approach of updating the tree after installing, before trying to build anything. In retrospect, I'm not at all sure why anyone would be surprised at this finding -- or why "update it first" would be recommended. The ports tree is known to be buildable and self-consistent when packages are built for a release, and that version of the tree is distributed with the release. If something won't build on a freshly-installed -RELEASE, but the build cluster _was_ able to build the package, there pretty much has to be something wrong with the local installation. Updating the ports tree can't possibly fix such a problem, whatever it may be, and just complicates the situation by introducing more variables. My approach is to install using the known-good ports tree from the release, get the system operational, and _then_ consider updating. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 06:28:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D73106566B for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 06:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0848FC15 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 06:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B9D3DFDB; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:28:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pA16SIxQ006013; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:28:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:28:18 +0100 From: Polytropon To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20111101072818.ddcfbd64.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4eafef5a.xn0KmWlZlGCMzFaA%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20111031040545.cc7d874f.freebsd@edvax.de> <557A48F1-B4A0-407D-A8F1-1502990AE31E@gmail.com> <20111031182528.619b9b83.freebsd@edvax.de> <4eafef5a.xn0KmWlZlGCMzFaA%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:28:22 -0000 On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:08:42 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > My experience is exactly the opposite. The biggest problem I've > had with ports came from trying to follow the recommended approach > of updating the tree after installing, before trying to build > anything. This is a _conditional_ suggestion. For those who follow a -STABLE branch, using a continuously updated ports tree, in combination with updating the OS and the installed applications, might sound more interesting than the opposite approach: Installing and _using_ a -RELEASE (and often only adding the security updates) and working with the "frozen" ports tree of that particular release. Note the difference of -RELEASE and -STABLE - you'll find similarities in handling the ports tree. There is no clear definition of "use _this_ on a server, use _that_ on a desktop"; individual updating and using habits are important here. > In retrospect, I'm not at all sure why anyone would be surprised > at this finding -- or why "update it first" would be recommended. > The ports tree is known to be buildable and self-consistent when > packages are built for a release, and that version of the tree > is distributed with the release. Correct. Especially for offline operations, this is an approach often recommended. > If something won't build on a > freshly-installed -RELEASE, but the build cluster _was_ able to > build the package, there pretty much has to be something wrong with > the local installation. And in that case, exchanging a non-compiling port (for whatever reason) with a binary package from the RELEASE set of archives is a possible way to solve the problem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 07:19:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EAD106566C for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snoop@email.it) Received: from smtp-out08.email.it (smtp-out08.email.it [212.97.34.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FC58FC0A for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out08.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62117C00E for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:19:43 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out08.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out08.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id pbFvoPo+8O2t for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:19:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.0.59] (inhio.eu [84.242.85.251]) by smtp-out08.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649D5C009 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:19:42 +0100 (CET) From: Snoop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:19:41 +0100 Message-ID: <1320131981.12930.2.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: CARP related trivial question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:19:45 -0000 Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive reply. I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow. P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel. ____________ Hi everybody, I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented. In the CARP man pages is clearly stated http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: __________________________________________________________________ "To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as described in Chapter 9 with the following option: device carp Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the following line to the /boot/loader.conf: if_carp_load="YES" " __________________________________________________________________ I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on loader.conf. I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that working on any node. I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1. Am I missing something? Any tip would be appreciated. -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Offerta Torre Pedrera Hotels per la fiera Key Energy a Rimini dal 9-12 novembre, Euro 38 a persona in bed & breakfast Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11898&d=1-11 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 07:25:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3881065672 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA898FC16 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id pA17PI3m072841 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 1 Nov 2011 00:25:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id pA17PIYO072840; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 00:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA08885; Mon, 31 Oct 11 23:23:09 PST Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:21:42 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: jhelfman@e-e.com Message-Id: <4eb00076.0aTNT2NYEpNq4+4H%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20111031182532.GF82316@eggman.experts-exchange.com> <201110311912.p9VJBvFL058118@fire.js.berklix.net> <20111031194237.GA65734@eggman.experts-exchange.com> In-Reply-To: <20111031194237.GA65734@eggman.experts-exchange.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: idletime in login.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:25:20 -0000 Jason Helfman wrote: > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 08:11:57PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey thus spake: > >Suggestion: use send-pr to submit a diff to add > > SEE ALSO ports/sysutils/doinkd > >to man login.conf > > I don't believe it is the correct place in a base man page for > mentioning a port in the FreeBSD tree, or in at least this case. Perhaps the Handbook would be a better place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 08:16:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903A51065670 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f44.google.com (mail-pz0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FD48FC12 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4so41866519pzk.3 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 01:16:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=l3yZTJTxqosz9HJJ83xEGxG/ukaOC96o8KFbTTaX/kY=; b=fXHqS0YHnZSJ9KCvZZ9rUv8j1aTnPvjaBGSf97jaYldCfXXwDnbK8eMOfvAlnBYg6F sJUZOwUXRdIQ9OCk3kBTOEknvFUKAOTznmqej5qlt/cCsUgfo0Su4PDr3zelv+BTXlJC Ze9apFUv3mxVaBA3dR6Ww+mS7RXMnth0Jbq/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.66.36 with SMTP id c4mr29658510pbt.39.1320135380825; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 01:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.133 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 01:16:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1320131981.12930.2.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> References: <1320131981.12930.2.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 09:16:20 +0100 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: Snoop , FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: CARP related trivial question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:16:21 -0000 What;s the reason for not being able to load the module ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 11:48:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBA7106564A for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rc5hack@yandex.ru) Received: from forward1h.mail.yandex.net (forward1h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.187.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908BB8FC17 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from forward6.mail.yandex.net (forward6.mail.yandex.net [77.88.60.125]) by forward1h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C94619E4D35 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:28:57 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320146937; bh=wpw02b0Shzcv3VLo0AOZ3m34ajDznxG4LMz5oD3Grz0=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=HXAO5jXVecKIT4+CM71bLlcopC4lNBc0mpevpouhypN7DGtaLzK/q6rlLBFbxVBgV s22qZFUidiiEGIPSOZvGfz46YTM4ZEx6pgP9XchoPs04H1bEgv54yiMESIkJdPMgPn Ddc3WGacC6buUQh7zSsDhp8Lo+6Gc8dMj2zoI7Pc= Received: from web106.yandex.ru (web106.yandex.ru [77.88.61.7]) by forward6.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B05A3F80127 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:28:57 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320146937; bh=wpw02b0Shzcv3VLo0AOZ3m34ajDznxG4LMz5oD3Grz0=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=HXAO5jXVecKIT4+CM71bLlcopC4lNBc0mpevpouhypN7DGtaLzK/q6rlLBFbxVBgV s22qZFUidiiEGIPSOZvGfz46YTM4ZEx6pgP9XchoPs04H1bEgv54yiMESIkJdPMgPn Ddc3WGacC6buUQh7zSsDhp8Lo+6Gc8dMj2zoI7Pc= Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web106.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 952C150803D for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:28:57 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320146937; bh=wpw02b0Shzcv3VLo0AOZ3m34ajDznxG4LMz5oD3Grz0=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=HXAO5jXVecKIT4+CM71bLlcopC4lNBc0mpevpouhypN7DGtaLzK/q6rlLBFbxVBgV s22qZFUidiiEGIPSOZvGfz46YTM4ZEx6pgP9XchoPs04H1bEgv54yiMESIkJdPMgPn Ddc3WGacC6buUQh7zSsDhp8Lo+6Gc8dMj2zoI7Pc= X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [178.130.21.85] ([178.130.21.85]) by web106.yandex.ru with HTTP; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:28:55 +0400 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <70871320146936@web106.yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:28:55 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Subject: How to get /dev/smb* ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:48:14 -0000 I built new PC with MSI Z68A-GD65(G3) motherboard, running 8.2-RELEASE and trying to get /dev/smb working (want to use mbmon with it). MSI Z68A-GD65(G3) have Intel Z68 chipset. Kernel compiled with those options: device cpufreq device coretemp device smb device smbus device ichsmb device iic device iicbus device iicsmb device intpm device alpm device viapm device nfpm device iicbb device ic device cpuctl options ENABLE_ALART # pciconf -lv hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x76811462 chip=0x01008086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI pcib1@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x76811462 chip=0x01018086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x76811462 chip=0x01028086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = display subclass = VGA none0@pci0:0:22:0: class=0x078000 card=0x76811462 chip=0x1c3a8086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = simple comms ehci0@pci0:0:26:0: class=0x0c0320 card=0x76811462 chip=0x1c2d8086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib2@pci0:0:28:0: class=0x060400 card=0x76811462 chip=0x1c108086 rev=0xb5 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib3@pci0:0:28:2: class=0x060400 card=0x76811462 chip=0x1c148086 rev=0xb5 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib4@pci0:0:28:3: class=0x060400 card=0x76811462 chip=0x1c168086 rev=0xb5 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib5@pci0:0:28:4: class=0x060401 card=0x76811462 chip=0x244e8086 rev=0xb5 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib7@pci0:0:28:5: class=0x060400 card=0x76811462 chip=0x1c1a8086 rev=0xb5 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI ehci1@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0320 card=0x76811462 chip=0x1c268086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = serial bus subclass = USB isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x76811462 chip=0x1c448086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci1@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x010400 card=0x76811462 chip=0x28228086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Raid Controller (82801HR/HH/HO&82801IR/IH/IO(AIE=0)/ICH10R)' class = mass storage subclass = RAID none1@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x76811462 chip=0x1c228086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus em0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0xa01f8086 chip=0x10d38086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Intel 82574L Gigabit Ethernet Controller (82574L)' class = network subclass = ethernet atapci0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x010601 card=0x76811462 chip=0x91231b4b rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 class = mass storage subclass = SATA none2@pci0:4:0:0: class=0x0c0330 card=0x76811462 chip=0x01941033 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NEC Electronics Hong Kong' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib6@pci0:5:0:0: class=0x060400 card=0x76811462 chip=0x10801b21 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI none3@pci0:7:0:0: class=0x0c0330 card=0x76811462 chip=0x01941033 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NEC Electronics Hong Kong' class = serial bus subclass = USB What should I do to get /dev/smb working? coretemp works fine, if it's matter. Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 12:32:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5D7106564A for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 12:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rc5hack@yandex.ru) Received: from forward20.mail.yandex.net (forward20.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834348FC0A for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 12:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web8.yandex.ru (web8.yandex.ru [95.108.252.108]) by forward20.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 09D941044087 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:32:05 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320150725; bh=7IfPOhE2fASKu1GAM2gDTwrFr9frLzZb4jGlf5nmKpo=; h=From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id: Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=aQ2zAw222koiPqJWvHLcu8IAH8v4pOtZ4LyqRTy+S5QV81eNncLvgslh1WKp13wgM g2JKhOPpKOK+dAbagu1nCfX80g/V3eQk5AnskK3MYZRxcfzqUy19NfaCc97cYofcB3 zGP18lDL/hhmkAsrcXIdB4f1QqcPMt9F4C2CeJ6s= Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web8.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id E4D6D4B38059 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:32:04 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320150724; bh=7IfPOhE2fASKu1GAM2gDTwrFr9frLzZb4jGlf5nmKpo=; h=From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id: Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=Kq3jqqORf5zKc/v8yYCMK0Um6uiJFQ0irauH7lik1BBXZxAorfvepqn/wFmFkfvIQ FMPmHCo5q+15QLLRlCPdNM7jPQ5V1PGq7CM+pElMN/sBU8CMWd2uY6gwS7zO32RD0O dGjVmr5YwP6o0MoSlclV+W0gTDsDsobGNZHy1qFU= X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [178.130.21.85] ([178.130.21.85]) by web8.yandex.ru with HTTP; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:32:03 +0400 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <70871320146936@web106.yandex.ru> References: <70871320146936@web106.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <89691320150723@web8.yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:32:03 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Subject: Re: How to get /dev/smb* ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 12:32:07 -0000 Updating to 8.2-RELEASE-p4 does not help. Any ideas? -- , http://kless.spb.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 13:21:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C666106564A for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fakhalesi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A858FC08 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so9301583faa.13 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:21:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=7iKUFbrscXOYBOWB6uydMMv86MJ6ul0PCFMzvNzf+Z0=; b=QnMPUJnEd+AsOSBiZk40aPTUDi1dHlVsXFyZuhUWLXwJENI6bzVFPOddHghKtSWCDf //WxkxWOXaN7Hj2LKG/gOgqLRfY6Rj67xdMjdO9l9WobTUMd4Ks4RRud/AjQ7yGXl09b HQ0J149lv2V4p2VJHbOVtZFKWhpMdGqhJp3y0= Received: by 10.223.87.211 with SMTP id x19mr369863fal.8.1320152017468; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 05:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from it88PC ([213.233.168.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k16sm44646532fab.8.2011.11.01.05.53.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Nov 2011 05:53:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "fakhalesi" To: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 05:53:25 -0700 Message-ID: <000001cc9895$4343af00$c9cb0d00$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01CC985A.96EA0720" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AcyXyPuAHsnuwp+uRdiUJ042qCaEkA== Content-Language: en-us X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: please answer my Question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:21:54 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CC985A.96EA0720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, In my project ,I insert three variables(int slack_mode, uint64_t deadline,uint64_t WECT ) in struct td_sched in place of /sys/kern/sched_ule.c=20 Then I have to add three method=20 =FC int set_process_slack(pid_t pid, struct timeval wcet , struct = timeval deadline); =FC int get_process_slack(pid_t pid, struct slackconf *slc); =FC int disable_process_slack(pid_t pid); In=20 =20 I don=92t know how get first thread of pid then set their variables=20 =20 Best regards, ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CC985A.96EA0720-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 13:27:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737F5106566B for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FA48FC18 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so428785wyg.13 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:27:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G2yfhv4aqTFTBJaV2TXU0tFhrJy8Lr0P9mx8dmyADEs=; b=vhBXEa7Y8lwcWtSRv/q1gGlX0IjvIwQbBZ5Ygk4sz+UdHcvHU8ypyYcL18kHXTReo6 Hq8wiP54YTGuyaVXqqqq7acYwh/eqCTAvys2uDlrh6SItU01TL3iWNd2Va7MOf9SuLPK sOiliaD0yb7R6ylcOW3RLbeWBJMPG4+Z/jKhw= Received: by 10.216.24.31 with SMTP id w31mr6371161wew.81.1320154062626; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fi11sm38392769wbb.9.2011.11.01.06.27.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:27:38 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111101132738.52555d3e@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20111101072818.ddcfbd64.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20111031040545.cc7d874f.freebsd@edvax.de> <557A48F1-B4A0-407D-A8F1-1502990AE31E@gmail.com> <20111031182528.619b9b83.freebsd@edvax.de> <4eafef5a.xn0KmWlZlGCMzFaA%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20111101072818.ddcfbd64.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:27:44 -0000 On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:28:18 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:08:42 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > My experience is exactly the opposite. The biggest problem I've > > had with ports came from trying to follow the recommended approach > > of updating the tree after installing, before trying to build > > anything. It depends. If you plan on updating infrequently then sticking with the well tested release tree is sensible. The problem is that there's a lot of pent-up changes that go into the tree immediately after a release. A lot of new user will fall into the trap of doing an initial install from the release tree (usually via packages), and then they pull in months of changes and are faced with a major update. I did that with Gentoo and made a mess of it; and it's the reason I moved on to FreeBSD. > This is a _conditional_ suggestion. For those who follow > a -STABLE branch, using a continuously updated ports tree, > in combination with updating the OS and the installed > applications, might sound more interesting than the > opposite approach: ... It's not an either or. It perfectly sensible to use a RELENG branch and use up-to-date-ports. Unless you actually need a specific MFC'ed update, like a driver, tracking stable is extra risk and hassle for no significant benefit. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 16:39:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B45B106564A for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrestomathic@btinternet.com) Received: from nm3-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.108.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C49C8FC18 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.108.231] by nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2011 16:26:07 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.225] by tm4.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2011 16:26:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2011 16:26:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 493656.63875.bm@omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 27474 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2011 16:26:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1320164767; bh=u4A7uzTZcACBYzVWTdMr9RZyAkYxyU5gMR2BOFEzYzk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=af6VSpuR+NmCKp3xk0bSlogVv78ASqO/bNzTK4TKUKcqFRrLXFz1bduyDM9SjRacj3dxDuBWxU7jfDc8IzEw0c1Nd7Yq9nztY1V+SOBI0X2ZUtSagG5D/zxsCe0sE8LsD6PPnnDaF0yci/vns90kYz3mbNZ2Bs5vc/wSJw3YhHo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PL5BGQhHM+fL1jTOJYTv8fV4eEnnkIOR9vpr+Yb09y2/myER5qK+ShT01VrqDI3u+S7Fgn9Gj/77vOeI+uEbqmEvdDU8DTux0xeiNFxWOktwFWVIWgOQdvUTdKRpXK37cbntXJiaaAJQuQnFqbAfGSwId7kERaWCtiAHH7exi9U=; X-YMail-OSG: nA20OpkVM1moA86zL6bd7Nwce8g2YBrgShsF_2HwP8amkth keFi_gFc_de7wduRdDyiz0FV4tJg.K3D2MMO8HLQJoL_bOD3rJxaOh1aQl3B ldHtSdU.EOJ2.AIfqFbGaeFOteGg4MuJb4hL9liDGxbnH22IHhEa62dpsdJO FYnQ458ksWIuIztKNPPjKxmTH22friKgPjn4MfKkFtatK3UZTDKvnRDESph6 szRDec.u6OmR3M6MNY05tCT0LzhEHbARg7nn.qDUAJ80ctvwigZ8ZqUEJeO3 Oq5dX30ovbJJkKpbsjHAvhBLRCeaqgp7irMclEpQxTHCaYrbZwy_mc0hNyOn hf2iOLw0kPZc0juswMpwF6NNlwpxAPX9JI9x7T9CNQHbrgwzkD3dj10N3Me9 zZixU Received: from [86.141.157.133] by web87009.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:26:07 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 Message-ID: <1320164767.79883.YahooMailNeo@web87009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:26:07 +0000 (GMT) From: PHIL EDWARDS To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:10:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Best Wishers. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: PHIL EDWARDS List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:39:50 -0000 According to my Linux Format Calander it's celebration time, so HAPPY BIRTH= DAY All @ FreeBSD and keep up the sterling work!=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 18:16:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FFE1065670 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C588A8FC12 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RLIso-0001eY-Cw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:16:22 +0100 Received: from a80-100-101-148.adsl.xs4all.nl ([80.100.101.148]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:16:22 +0100 Received: from huubvanniekerk by a80-100-101-148.adsl.xs4all.nl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:16:22 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: hvn Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <201110291401.08722.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <20111029195804.f876fcff.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: a80-100-101-148.adsl.xs4all.nl User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Subject: Re: update packages by pkg_add X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:16:25 -0000 On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:58:04 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:53:28 +0200, Huub van Niekerk wrote: >> Thank you for your answer. But how about if the package-to-be-replaced >> is a dependency? Just remember the dependency and do the same ? > > As you're going to reinstall the package immediately, there won't be a > problem. Of course, a depending program won't properly run until you've > actually replaced the package in question. > > For keeping track of dependencies, you can also use portmaster or > portupgrade and use -P and -PP options to work with packages (like > pkg_add does) instead of compiling from sources. The "pkgdb -aF" command > will properly store dependency informations. Sorry for the delay in responding, but I've been trying out several options. First, I've been reading the manual(s) and thought that "portupgrade -P " might work. Alas, it ends with the message that several dependencies needed to be upgraded first. Then I tried "portupgrade -R " which basically ended the same way. Finally I tried "portmanager " that ends the same way too. Doing all this consumed a lot of time since it's an older machine: PIII 500MHz 500MB. If somebody has a suggestion, I'd be glad to try it. For now, I'm rather clueless on what to do. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 18:58:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2F1106566C for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@top10onlineuniversities.org) Received: from bestonlineschool.org (bestonlineschool.org [205.186.146.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7D28FC14 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16302 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2011 11:32:10 -0700 Received: from c-76-30-217-41.hsd1.tx.comcast.net (HELO AmyEvans) (76.30.217.41) by bestonlineschool.org with SMTP; 1 Nov 2011 11:32:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:31:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Leslie Green To: webmaster Message-ID: <23930137.1339.1320172309323.JavaMail.Amy@AmyEvans> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1225_33426902.1320172305768" Subject: College Degree Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:58:52 -0000 ------=_Part_1225_33426902.1320172305768 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi webmaster, I recently built a website for prospective college students called http://www.top10onlineuniversities.org. 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Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111101104226.1241f2a1@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <70871320146936@web106.yandex.ru> References: <70871320146936@web106.yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: How to get /dev/smb* ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:40:09 -0000 On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:28:55 +0400 =D0=90=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=9A=D0=BB=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=81 wrote: > I built new PC with MSI Z68A-GD65(G3) motherboard, running > 8.2-RELEASE and trying to get /dev/smb working (want to use mbmon > with it). >=20 > MSI Z68A-GD65(G3) have Intel Z68 chipset. >=20 > Kernel compiled with those options: >=20 > device cpufreq > device coretemp > device smb > device smbus > device ichsmb > device iic > device iicbus > device iicsmb > device intpm > device alpm > device viapm > device nfpm > device iicbb > device ic > device cpuctl > options ENABLE_ALART >=20 >=20 >=20 > # pciconf -lv=20 > hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=3D0x060000 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x01008086 rev=3D0x09 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D bridge > subclass =3D HOST-PCI > pcib1@pci0:0:1:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x01018086 rev=3D0x09 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D bridge > subclass =3D PCI-PCI > vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=3D0x030000 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x01028086 rev=3D0x09 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D display > subclass =3D VGA > none0@pci0:0:22:0: class=3D0x078000 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x1c3a8086 rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D simple comms > ehci0@pci0:0:26:0: class=3D0x0c0320 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x1c2d8086 rev=3D0x05 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D serial bus > subclass =3D USB > pcib2@pci0:0:28:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x1c108086 rev=3D0xb5 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D bridge > subclass =3D PCI-PCI > pcib3@pci0:0:28:2: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x1c148086 rev=3D0xb5 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D bridge > subclass =3D PCI-PCI > pcib4@pci0:0:28:3: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x1c168086 rev=3D0xb5 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D bridge > subclass =3D PCI-PCI > pcib5@pci0:0:28:4: class=3D0x060401 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x244e8086 rev=3D0xb5 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > device =3D '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub > Interface to PCI Bridge' class =3D bridge > subclass =3D PCI-PCI > pcib7@pci0:0:28:5: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x1c1a8086 rev=3D0xb5 hdr=3D0x01 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D bridge > subclass =3D PCI-PCI > ehci1@pci0:0:29:0: class=3D0x0c0320 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x1c268086 rev=3D0x05 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D serial bus > subclass =3D USB > isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=3D0x060100 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x1c448086 rev=3D0x05 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D bridge > subclass =3D PCI-ISA > atapci1@pci0:0:31:2: class=3D0x010400 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x28228086 rev=3D0x05 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > device =3D 'Raid Controller > (82801HR/HH/HO&82801IR/IH/IO(AIE=3D0)/ICH10R)' class =3D mass storage > subclass =3D RAID > none1@pci0:0:31:3: class=3D0x0c0500 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x1c228086 rev=3D0x05 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > class =3D serial bus > subclass =3D SMBus > em0@pci0:2:0:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0xa01f8086 chip=3D0x10d38086 > rev=3D0x00 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > device =3D 'Intel 82574L Gigabit Ethernet Controller (82574L)' > class =3D network > subclass =3D ethernet > atapci0@pci0:3:0:0: class=3D0x010601 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x91231b4b rev=3D0x11 hdr=3D0x00 class =3D mass storage > subclass =3D SATA > none2@pci0:4:0:0: class=3D0x0c0330 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x01941033 rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'NEC Electronics H= ong > Kong' class =3D serial bus > subclass =3D USB > pcib6@pci0:5:0:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x10801b21 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x01 class =3D bridge > subclass =3D PCI-PCI > none3@pci0:7:0:0: class=3D0x0c0330 card=3D0x76811462 > chip=3D0x01941033 rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'NEC Electronics H= ong > Kong' class =3D serial bus > subclass =3D USB >=20 >=20 > What should I do to get /dev/smb working? >=20 > coretemp works fine, if it's matter. >=20 > Thank you! mbmon is very old. I've never gotten it to work on any machine I've every tried it on. Does your boot time output show anything smb-related at all, such as maybe "smbios0: at ..."? It's possible that your machine simply has no support for this. --=20 Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 19:40:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256A51065732 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9D98FC0A for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111101194009.UHHX3808.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 15:40:09 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp id rvfy1h00F55wwzE02vg80u; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:40:08 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.4EB04B18.01F7,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=sGR9G2hYIFXa2xB4aZiX1SVRJ2zjCAfsdSGqvGTS29E= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=TpjiXO9rQFR6efNVgnsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA14cHfk002988; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:38:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:38:12 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Ashley Williams Message-ID: <20111031233812.34c7f61d@cox.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard lockups with RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:40:15 -0000 On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:45:58 +1000 Ashley Williams wrote: > I've recently upgraded from 9.0 beta1 to RC1 and experiencing a few > hard lockups, they seem to related to browsing - both chromium and > firefox cause the lockups. (requiring a hard reset ) > All I can think of is something related to Linux emulation and flash, > but I could be wrong. Rolling back the kernel version with the same > userland clears up the problem. > > I haven't been able to get any logs or cores to help diagnose this > problem, so I'd appreciate a push in the right direction. I've seen a few of these, too, in RC-1. I assumed they might be related to my having recently upgraded to the flash 11 port, but hadn't gotten around to reporting anything yet. Like you, I have no hard data to base any conclusions on as to what's causing the lockups. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 20:38:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA3B106566B for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpistanbulbilisim@setrow.com) Received: from mgw02-43.relay02.setrow.com (mgw02-43.relay02.setrow.com [212.252.24.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7678FC15 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mgw02-43.relay02.setrow.com (PowerMTA(TM) v3.5r16) id hm1ccc12p1ct for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:38:27 +0200 (envelope-from ) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:38:26 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org From: =?utf-8?Q?=C4=B0stanbul_Bili=C5=9Fim?= Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Setrow Importance: Normal Precedence: bulk X-MAIL-INFORMATION: 44391506-7745-270-Tr-0-questions@freebsd.org-1 Delivered-To: =?utf-8?Q?=C4=B0stanbul_Bili=C5=9Fim_?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Her Zaman Taze X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:38:31 -0000 Size =C3=B6zel b=C3=BClteni g=C3=B6rmek i=C3=A7in a=C5=9Fa=C4=9F=C4=B1daki = linke t=C4=B1klay=C4=B1n=C4=B1z:=20 T=C4=B1klay=C4=B1n=C4=B1z=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 21:04:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE53106566B; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586C68FC14; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5D21703E; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:48:40 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4EB05B27.2090906@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:48:39 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is questions mail down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:04:20 -0000 I havent recieve any FreeBSD questions Sunday Monday tuesday. No nov reminder either. Is the service broken? -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 23:31:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A13106564A for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F21F8FC0C for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailrouter.bsdlabs.com (mailrouter.bsdlabs.com [172.16.1.19]) by neonpark.inter-sonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF1F5284073; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:12:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailrouter.bsdlabs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailrouter.bsdlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A3C2C9053; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:12:21 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Received: from mailrouter.bsdlabs.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mailrouter.bsdlabs.com (mailrouter.bsdlabs.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r+ffSX3Vnaoy; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:12:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from kreutzman.h.inter-sonic.com (unknown [172.16.2.17]) by kreutzman.h.inter-sonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19734E04B9; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:12:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EB07CD3.1050804@intersonic.se> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:12:19 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111013 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: noc@hdk5.net References: <4EB05B27.2090906@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <4EB05B27.2090906@hdk5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Is questions mail down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 23:31:40 -0000 On 11/01/11 21:48, Al Plant wrote: > I havent recieve any FreeBSD questions Sunday Monday tuesday. No nov > reminder either. Is the service broken? Works like charm here. Did you try to subscribe again just to check your account was not accidentaly unsubscribed? And of course you checked your spam bucket? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 02:14:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B551D106566C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 02:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EC68FC15 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 02:14:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id pA22EgeM002216 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:14:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id pA22Egbr002215; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA04263; Tue, 1 Nov 11 18:06:03 PST Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:04:35 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: peo@intersonic.se, noc@hdk5.net Message-Id: <4eb107a3.Diix3jsXvtcPjgEh%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4EB05B27.2090906@hdk5.net> <4EB07CD3.1050804@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <4EB07CD3.1050804@intersonic.se> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is questions mail down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:14:43 -0000 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > On 11/01/11 21:48, Al Plant wrote: > > I havent recieve any FreeBSD questions Sunday Monday tuesday. > > No nov reminder either. Is the service broken? > > Works like charm here. Did you try to subscribe again just to > check your account was not accidentaly unsubscribed? And of > course you checked your spam bucket? Might be worth logging into the subscription page to see if delivery got suspended due to bounces. A notification is sent when this happens, but it might also bounce :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 02:27:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0409A1065675 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 02:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5FB8FC14 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 02:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA22RVKL024686 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:27:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:27:30 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111023 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:27:32 -0000 Periodically I run into the problem that some sites don't work, for example: http://www.reuters.com/video/2011/11/01/greek-referendum-disappoints-markets?videoId=224096981&videoChannel=2602 http://belapan.by/archive/2009/07/10/media_yakubovich -- these don't work in both FF and chrome. I complained to maintainers about this before, but got no response. Is it known what might be a problem in such cases? linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.10 nspluginwrapper-1.4.4 8.2-STABLE amd64 Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 02:29:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEAB106566B for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 02:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from openslateproj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C968FC0A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 02:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfk26 with SMTP id fk26so3753832vcb.13 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:29:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pgln056iX7TT2iW6qOWc0JY0DBZ7e/+iaq/uDVa2peQ=; b=wMALJc/JrSq9PFhFu7PFmhWu02vX3mmpnuTtI/hcjZZ+WBLfSb+V3rt6dyEMzN8E9v H03M/Bn8tHAgtIkA2NCtO4GYUogvqea4BZpAh/YYLHoWCHlZ/D6aVqANToPZBjx75h+R aor8jb99FhzM5pl+FvbX/hWhNlmtgq/Q4Xy4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.190.68 with SMTP id dh4mr168629vcb.13.1320200973809; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.203.202 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.203.202 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:29:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4eb107a3.Diix3jsXvtcPjgEh%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4EB05B27.2090906@hdk5.net> <4EB07CD3.1050804@intersonic.se> <4eb107a3.Diix3jsXvtcPjgEh%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:29:33 -1000 Message-ID: From: Open Slate To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, noc@hdk5.net Subject: Re: Is questions mail down? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:29:35 -0000 My aloha.com addresses stopped receiving mail from freebsd lists due to messed up reverse dns lookups caused by sale of original ISP. Got excellent help from postmaster at freebsd. Moved to gmail. On Nov 1, 2011 4:15 PM, wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > On 11/01/11 21:48, Al Plant wrote: > > I havent reci... Might be worth logging into the subscription page to see if delivery got suspended due to bounces. A notification is sent when this happens, but it might also bounce :( _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://li... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 02:35:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B671065675 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 02:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CC68FC15 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 02:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so10265060faa.13 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:35:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mLfsqgxe7RRFcPiG0cc901nWpNoboT74EhaKLTIUwr4=; b=XfxeEiIB9vo/BDuaOR7squJWE1VbnLIbtKHzFknYW/auDJlyiVRRXMajtoaVoZx/Yp bwrm+778YPCtNPdGzrAKkuyNUSO7T95MaIZl2puAB5KatJfCsBI3tXeoET8XcxITpcSj 8/rsbefkzi9FhWS3r0FjDkURxdoZDijx8kPv0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.5.66 with SMTP id 2mr4974386fau.26.1320201313275; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.72 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:35:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:35:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:35:14 -0000 On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Yuri wrote: > Periodically I run into the problem that some sites don't work, for > example: > http://www.reuters.com/video/**2011/11/01/greek-referendum-** > disappoints-markets?videoId=**224096981&videoChannel=2602 > http://belapan.by/archive/**2009/07/10/media_yakubovich > -- these don't work in both FF and chrome. > > I complained to maintainers about this before, but got no response. > > Is it known what might be a problem in such cases? > > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.**3r183.10 > nspluginwrapper-1.4.4 > 8.2-STABLE amd64 > I believe you have asked this before, and the answer is still the same. It works for me. flashplayer 11 hit ports today, you could try removing 10, installing 11 and seeing if that helps you at all. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 04:03:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881D9106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 04:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo101.cox.net (eastrmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2500B8FC0A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 04:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo110.cox.net ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111102040337.GIXV3808.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:03:37 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo110.cox.net with bizsmtp id s43c1h00B55wwzE0243d1y; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:03:37 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4EB0C119.0056,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=uJ/qTlwYUPBYhdejbfpiXZ084Nq1odojvP+g2rDuwMA= c=1 sm=1 a=7MCRWBou4ngA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=FnIUHYMPAAAA:8 a=-ohEnwfxAAAA:8 a=bhiPCWMLAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=bYdTHa3gOoebjK2LnbUA:9 a=Ws6ZUY2dJdvire5EV0sA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=AH9pIq5YQ0cA:10 a=TG6KZ68mZ_cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA243aDC059790; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:03:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:03:30 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Yuri Message-ID: <20111101230330.5d2d4de5@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 04:03:43 -0000 On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:27:30 -0700 Yuri wrote: > Periodically I run into the problem that some sites don't work, for > example: > http://www.reuters.com/video/2011/11/01/greek-referendum-disappoints-markets?videoId=224096981&videoChannel=2602 > http://belapan.by/archive/2009/07/10/media_yakubovich -- these don't > work in both FF and chrome. > > I complained to maintainers about this before, but got no response. > > Is it known what might be a problem in such cases? > > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.10 > nspluginwrapper-1.4.4 > 8.2-STABLE amd64 > > Yuri The first video does seem to have a bit of a problem. It starts playing (first an advertisement, then the actual video), but then abrubtly stops. I suspect the problem is with the actual file itself, not with the player. The second site works just fine, no problems at all. As another writer suggests, you may want to try upgrading to the latest version of the port, version 11. I've been using it a couple of days now, and it does seem to be much better overall, especially as far as not corrupting other windows and/or the desktop. Update your ports tree (if you use ports) and upgrade. Or look for and download the package from a favorite ftp site near you. :-) Let us know how things turn out. Good luck! -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 04:23:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9553A106566C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 04:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2471D8FC1C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 04:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so41644faa.13 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:23:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=W2kHH4G+/qGn/7TFixYXLMwNqSGZkdMhYUQLzrm9E7A=; b=eelAKPn2G/ZLdXhV8S/HbKcYP40w8ifDVXjKZCK1zafWnqg2g0GDuVmOVnyPMLwZME bnjTV7N7fdlHZ62O00lGUstTw5Tom+m00EEBWm/RoBeUeSEVY0LFdhoioTKfvOrLWEoi RX+dbNZunrFjkCf1VaL6IRlxtFufkeuUurU4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.76.217 with SMTP id d25mr5513139fak.31.1320207810946; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.72 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:23:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111101230330.5d2d4de5@cox.net> References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> <20111101230330.5d2d4de5@cox.net> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:23:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Yuri , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 04:23:32 -0000 On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > The first video does seem to have a bit of a problem. It starts > playing (first an advertisement, then the actual video), but then > abrubtly stops. I suspect the problem is with the actual file itself, > not with the player. > That is not the case here. The whole thing plays flawlessly and I see no advertisement. I do run flashblock, perhaps that has an effect on the outcome. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 05:18:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28264106566B for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 05:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4908FC0C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 05:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnq2 with SMTP id q2so10385267ggn.13 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:18:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W96GfI68c/VGai8ts2UgjAP3SkLfwDx+tQMRandhugw=; b=LrcCmVD6RmqREtuNa4Vyo6EJz51trzKn8bo5T9ZNFUAQk7ahkgoSubTcNYKjYae6BY 1qRnK9tCm9c4fs+ztqibzvgbPAd0A/NkC/cmQqucf8rB4RKQ8qLiG9P+AROVzEjn2zkL 2OW4ddH6dJbOKKq6tTBI5xP7kx26mcyK0k0pE= Received: by 10.236.181.198 with SMTP id l46mr4362768yhm.96.1320209659032; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jimmiejaz.org (bas2-toronto44-1177753662.dsl.bell.ca. [70.51.24.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g10sm2390491yhi.17.2011.11.01.21.54.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB0CCF2.2000806@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:54:10 -0400 From: Jimmie James User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111006 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yuri@rawbw.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 05:18:16 -0000 > Periodically I run into the problem that some sites don't work, for > example: > http://www.reuters.com/video/2011/11/01/greek-referendum-disappoints-markets?videoId=224096981&videoChannel=2602 > http://belapan.by/archive/2009/07/10/media_yakubovich -- these don't > work in both FF and chrome. > > I complained to maintainers about this before, but got no response. > > Is it known what might be a problem in such cases? > > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.10 > nspluginwrapper-1.4.4 > 8.2-STABLE amd64 > > Yuri I'm running on i386, with flashblock/adblock in my firefox, and both videos play fine for me in FF7, opera and midroi. The first video is (direct link to the SWF), can you try playing it directly? (sorry for such an ugly URL) http://www.reuters.com/resources_v2/flash/loader.swf?playerURL=/resources_v2/flash/player.swf&configURL=/resources_v2/flash/config_default.xml&edition=BETAUS&videoId=224096981&videoChannel=2602&videoChannelName=Most%20Popular&videoRT=01:55&videoHeadline=Greek%20referendum%20disappoints%20markets&videoURL=http://cds1.yospace.com/access/d/u/0/1/web/type=video,fmt=any,minq=0,maxq=100000000,mins=1x1,maxs=640x608,minr=5,maxr=100,/27828175?f=100212513820&videoStartPos=0&videoVolume=1&videoLength=115&clickTagTV=/news/video&LCLevel1=mostpopular&LCLevel2=General&videoedition=BETAUS&adFriendly=false&pos=0&allowEmbed=1&nextVideoTitle=Your%20tax%20dollars%20at%20work%2C%20unconstitutionally&nextVideoDuration=01:32&nextVideoThumbnail=http://yospace-cds1.reuters.com/u/resize~ad1~120x120/0/f/~image_jpeg~9999-1/1/m/i/0/b/8/l9cd/reuters04?videoId=27806447 Sorry I can't help out, maybe as suggested try flash11. However, it maybe a 64bit bug, I've heard of other people having problems when using amd64 and flash. linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.10 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin firefox-7.0.1_3,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla nspluginwrapper-1.4.4 A compatibility plugin for Mozilla NPAPI plugins opera-11.52 Blazingly fast, full-featured, standards-compliant browser opera-linuxplugins-11.52 Linux plugin support for the native Opera browser midori-0.4.1 Lightweight web browser using WebKit browser engine FreeBSD jimmiejaz.org 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Sun Jun 26 08:42:45 EDT 2011 jimmie@jimmiejaz.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FORTYTWO i386 -- By reading this e-mail you hereby forfeit all of your fortune, properties and claims to the sender, who shall be the sole and universal beneficiary. However, your debts and bills shall remain yours. 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Sabatier ,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20111101104226.1241f2a1@cox.net> References: <70871320146936@web106.yandex.ru> <20111101104226.1241f2a1@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <416061320219879@web4.yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:44:39 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Cc: Subject: Re: How to get /dev/smb* ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 07:44:42 -0000 > > mbmon is very old. I've never gotten it to work on any machine I've > every tried it on. > > Does your boot time output show anything smb-related at all, such as > maybe "smbios0: at ..."? It's possible that > your machine simply has no support for this. > # dmesg -a |grep smb - returns nothing. Does it means that it is no way to read temperature sensors on motherboard? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 07:55:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67681065677 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 07:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EB68FC0C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 07:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB233D78F; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:55:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pA27tuZl006353; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:55:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:55:56 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdGC0L7QvSDQmtC70LXRgdGB?= Message-Id: <20111102085556.4ac6657f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <416061320219879@web4.yandex.ru> References: <70871320146936@web106.yandex.ru> <20111101104226.1241f2a1@cox.net> <416061320219879@web4.yandex.ru> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get /dev/smb* ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 07:55:58 -0000 On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:44:39 +0400, Антон Клесс wrote: > > > > mbmon is very old.  I've never gotten it to work on any machine I've > > every tried it on. > > > > Does your boot time output show anything smb-related at all, such as > > maybe "smbios0: at ..."?  It's possible that > > your machine simply has no support for this. > > > > # dmesg -a |grep smb > > - returns nothing. > > Does it means that it is no way to read temperature sensors on motherboard? I don't have a smb device in dmesg listed. But I have those in the kernel configuration: # System management bus device smbus device iicbus device iicsmb device iicbb device iic So I can read temperature values using xmbmon. With the mbmon program, it should work similarly. OS is 8.2-STABLE on x86 here. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 10:01:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CCC1065672 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76ECF8FC1B for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo209.cox.net ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111102100107.TUOX3765.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo209.cox.net>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 06:01:07 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo209.cox.net with bizsmtp id sA161h00H55wwzE02A17eB; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 06:01:07 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.4EB114E3.00E6,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=GlvmX0EemCkHIsfJI/uUz53NbOqpCno7T9uTKvSdMTY= c=1 sm=1 a=r6cevgW6SK4A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=tbsa2ecOAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=exicx92uPoCJpjAgf1sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=jKRid43F7UoA:10 a=BZeCyDAxWosA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA2A13dU072083; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 05:01:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 05:00:58 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20111102050058.18db6cb3@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20111102085556.4ac6657f.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <70871320146936@web106.yandex.ru> <20111101104226.1241f2a1@cox.net> <416061320219879@web4.yandex.ru> <20111102085556.4ac6657f.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=D1=81?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=90=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BD_=D0=9A=D0=BB=D0=B5=D1=81?= Subject: Re: How to get /dev/smb* ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:01:13 -0000 On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:55:56 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > I don't have a smb device in dmesg listed. But I have > those in the kernel configuration: > > # System management bus > device smbus > device iicbus > device iicsmb > device iicbb > device iic Do you find that including "device smbios" makes any perceptible difference anywhere? > So I can read temperature values using xmbmon. With > the mbmon program, it should work similarly. OS is > 8.2-STABLE on x86 here. *Very* similarly, I would say: root:/usr/ports/sysutils/xmbmon# cat Makefile # Ports collection makefile for: xmbmon # Date created: 2001/08/30 # Whom: kaz@kobe1995.net (NAKAMURA Kauzushi) # # $FreeBSD: ports/sysutils/xmbmon/Makefile,v 1.23 2008/03/23 23:03:11 miwi Exp $ # PORTNAME= xmbmon PORTREVISION= 9 COMMENT= A X motherboard monitor for LM78/79, W8378x, AS99127F, VT82C686 and ADM9240 MASTERDIR= ${.CURDIR}/../mbmon <-- (if you catch my drift) :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 10:01:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990311065672 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5F18FC1A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111102100125.RZVK3788.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo210.cox.net>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 06:01:25 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo210.cox.net with bizsmtp id sA1Q1h00555wwzE02A1Qmu; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 06:01:25 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.4EB114F5.0029,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vbhHURzOYu7sh/H2nQFtZsDvZuFIa++ww+VfbjuztNE= c=1 sm=1 a=gH2l33NO9zgA:10 a=r6cevgW6SK4A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=Fdkxr_5KmFUA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=_RbA5VCFaaCI8SGRZ_0A:9 a=WMuhgDWOEbcL6OcpCW4A:7 a=pvA44qeTxYYA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA2A1OiW075030; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 05:01:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 05:01:19 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CE=D4=CF=CE_=EB=CC=C5=D3=D3?= Message-ID: <20111102050119.4ff96620@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <416061320219879@web4.yandex.ru> References: <70871320146936@web106.yandex.ru> <20111101104226.1241f2a1@cox.net> <416061320219879@web4.yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get /dev/smb* ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:01:31 -0000 On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:44:39 +0400 wrote: > > > > mbmon is very old. I've never gotten it to work on any machine I've > > every tried it on. > > > > Does your boot time output show anything smb-related at all, such as > > maybe "smbios0: at ..."? It's possible > > that your machine simply has no support for this. > > > > # dmesg -a |grep smb > > - returns nothing. I just noticed, looking back at your previous mail, that you don't seem to have a "device smbios" line in your kernel config. Try adding that and see if the smbios facility shows up at boot time. I don't really understand the inner workings of this particular feature. On my box, I so see an indication in the boot time messages: smbios0: at iomem 0xfcd20-0xfcd3e on motherboard smbios0: Version: 2.5 Although no "smbios0" device actually shows up under /dev. Perhaps some more knowledgeable individual might enlighten us as to what capabilities having this in your kernel config actually enables. Also, just looking at the (x)mbmon port, the COMMENT line in the Makefile states: A X motherboard monitor for LM78/79, W8378x, AS99127F, VT82C686 and ADM9240 So, this port appears to be useful only on a very specific range of motherboards. > Does it means that it is no way to read temperature sensors on > motherboard? > Well, it depends. :-) I'm not at all familiar with your particular processor/motherboard, so I can only offer some rather limited advice that may steer you in the right direction for further exploration. There are a number of devices you can enable in your kernel config that may provide some of what you're looking for. Here, on my amd64 box, for instance, "device amdtemp", along with "device cpuctl" and "device cpufreq" makes the following dev.cpu.* sysctls available, which are one way to (manually) monitor your system. As you can see below, this provides information on CPU temperature and frequency. # sysctl dev.cpu dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.0.freq: 2200 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2200/23500 1100/14280 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 1931us dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002 dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4658us dev.cpu.2.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.2.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.2.%location: handle=\_PR_.P003 dev.cpu.2.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.2.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.2.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% last 3551us dev.cpu.3.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.3.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.3.%location: handle=\_PR_.P004 dev.cpu.3.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.3.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.3.temperature: 47.0C dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4943us I've never really delved that deeply into any hardware monitoring tools, to be honest. You're kind of getting into an area where I am admittedly no expert. :-) But I'd suggest looking very carefully at both /sys/conf/NOTES and /sys/$ARCH/conf/NOTES (as well as the GENERIC kernel config) for some possible clues. Refer to the man pages for any specific devices of potential interest to see exactly what they're about, and possibly ask some more questions here as you start to narrow down the items that my possibly be useful to you. Seriously, people here don't mind questions being asked, if they're even semi-intelligent ones. We're a friendly bunch, for the most part. :-) Perhaps someone may offer you some more useful information on how to monitor and/or control other aspects of your specific hardware configuration besides CPU temperature and frequency. Hope this helps in some small way. Good luck! :-) -- Conrad J. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o64sm3913613yhk.3.2011.11.02.05.27.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 05:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3SYTFp2Z6Qz2CG4L for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:27:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:27:09 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111102082709.65abaabf@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:27:14 -0000 On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:27:30 -0700 Yuri articulated: > Periodically I run into the problem that some sites don't work, for > example: > http://www.reuters.com/video/2011/11/01/greek-referendum-disappoints-markets?videoId=224096981&videoChannel=2602 > http://belapan.by/archive/2009/07/10/media_yakubovich -- these don't > work in both FF and chrome. > > I complained to maintainers about this before, but got no response. > > Is it known what might be a problem in such cases? > > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.10 > nspluginwrapper-1.4.4 > 8.2-STABLE amd64 They don't work here either. I have heard although never gotten any confirmation that the problem exists with the FreeBSD amd64 architecture. Maybe you could organize a test base of both 32 and 64 bit users and see what results they achieve. You are not likely to get any real assistance otherwise. I first reported this over a year ago. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 12:31:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F57106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799008FC0A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt32 with SMTP id 32so104255ywt.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 05:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.93.1 with SMTP id q1mr5239042ybb.68.1320237085767; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 05:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v5sm6990540anf.3.2011.11.02.05.31.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 05:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3SYTLg1FQTz2CG4L for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:31:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:31:22 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111102083122.26470ad9@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20111102052030.GB2105@holstein.holy.cow> References: <20111102052030.GB2105@holstein.holy.cow> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: OT: Old books (before c. 2009) for the price of shipping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:31:26 -0000 On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:20:30 -1000 parv articulated: > I have following books (bought before 2009) that need to be disposed > of, one way or another within next 7-8 days. If you are interested > in any of them, contact me privately about the shipping payment (to > be shipped from Allentown, Pennsylvania, USA via USPS) & your list > ... > > * Sed & Awk > -- Dale Doughberty & Arnold Robbins > > * The New Korn Shell Command and Programming Language > -- Morris I Bolsky, David G Korn > > * Sendmail > -- O'Reilly - Bryan Costales with Eric Allman > > * Java in a Nutshell > -- O'Reilly - David Flangan > > * Core Java, Volume 1 - Fundamentals > -- Cay S. Horstmann, Gary Cornell > > * Managed C++ and .Net Development > -- Stephen R G Fraser, Forward by Arthur Laksberg > > * Counter Hack - A Step by Step Guide to Computer Attacks and > Effective Defenses -- Ed Skoudis > > * Scene of the Cybercrime: Computer Forensics Handbook > -- Debra Littlejohn Shinder, Ed Tiltel > > * Cybercrime Vandalizing the Information Society > -- Steven Furnell > > * Codes, Ciphers and Other Cryptic and Clandestine Communication: > 400 Ways to Send Secret Messages from Hieroglyphs to the Internet > -- Fred B Wrixon I actually own several of those books including my favorite door stop, "Sendmail". In any case, why don't you try contributing then to a library or perhaps a local school? You could conceivably get some sort of tax write off for your efforts too. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 13:09:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFCD106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F998FC0A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD6B9.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.214.185]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pA2D9lC5044431; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:09:49 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA2D9adJ014708; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:09:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA2D9OWr059517; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:09:30 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201111021309.pA2D9OWr059517@fire.js.berklix.net> To: parv From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:20:30 -1000." <20111102052030.GB2105@holstein.holy.cow> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:09:24 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: f-q Subject: Re: OT: Old books (before c. 2009) for the price of shipping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:09:51 -0000 parv wrote: > I have following books (bought before 2009) that need to be disposed > of, one way or another within next 7-8 days. If you are interested > in any of them, contact me privately about the shipping payment (to > be shipped from Allentown, Pennsylvania, USA via USPS) & your list > ... > > * Sed & Awk > -- Dale Doughberty & Arnold Robbins > > * The New Korn Shell Command and Programming Language > -- Morris I Bolsky, David G Korn > > * Sendmail > -- O'Reilly - Bryan Costales with Eric Allman > > * Java in a Nutshell > -- O'Reilly - David Flangan > > * Core Java, Volume 1 - Fundamentals > -- Cay S. Horstmann, Gary Cornell > > * Managed C++ and .Net Development > -- Stephen R G Fraser, Forward by Arthur Laksberg > > * Counter Hack - A Step by Step Guide to Computer Attacks and Effective Defenses > -- Ed Skoudis > > * Scene of the Cybercrime: Computer Forensics Handbook > -- Debra Littlejohn Shinder, Ed Tiltel > > * Cybercrime Vandalizing the Information Society > -- Steven Furnell > > * Codes, Ciphers and Other Cryptic and Clandestine Communication: > 400 Ways to Send Secret Messages from Hieroglyphs to the Internet > -- Fred B Wrixon > > > - parv Suggestions: Use them to seed a new BSD user group in your area: Location, your favourite bar/ cafe. Or find a nearby similar user group. find a nearby member & drop them all off with member to take to give away at next monthly meeting of which ever club. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 15:44:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C145F1065784 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD218FC0C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyd10 with SMTP id 10so366676eyd.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.221.162 with SMTP id r34mr5023778wep.77.1320248696541; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fi11sm4848253wbb.9.2011.11.02.08.44.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 08:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB16572.4080100@my.gd> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1320131981.12930.2.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> In-Reply-To: <1320131981.12930.2.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: CARP related trivial question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:44:58 -0000 On 11/1/11 8:19 AM, Snoop wrote: > Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive reply. I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow. > P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel. > ____________ > > Hi everybody, > I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented. > > In the CARP man pages is clearly stated > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: > __________________________________________________________________ > "To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as > described in Chapter 9 with the following option: > device carp > > Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the > following line to the /boot/loader.conf: > if_carp_load="YES" " > __________________________________________________________________ > > I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not > while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on > loader.conf. > I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that > working on any node. > I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1. > > Am I missing something? > Any tip would be appreciated. > You have already receive a reply on-list, which asked if you had /boot/kernel/if_carp* files . I haven't followed further so I'm not sure if you ever replied to it or not. Find below the same output from a 8.2-STABLE box: mybsd root /boot/kernel # uname -a FreeBSD mybsd 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 12 16:58:51 CEST 2011 root@mybsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAM amd64 mybsd root /boot/kernel # ls -la /boot/kernel/if_carp* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 44384 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 197856 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko.symbols From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 16:09:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9D7106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F6E8FC15 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmail-mta02.peak.org ([207.55.16.112]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({6c724cae-de34-4c5f-b615-3072b86419fa}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20111102160944245 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:09:44 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from maple.localnet (unknown [207.55.106.132]) by zmail-mta02.peak.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F2A46C8C77 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (oak.localnet [IPv6:2001:1938:266::6f:616b]) by maple.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D07B61F12 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05593BE8B for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id pA2G9fAh092841; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:08:42 -0700 References: <70871320146936@web106.yandex.ru> <20111101104226.1241f2a1@cox.net> <416061320219879@web4.yandex.ru> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <87hb2mzet6.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: How to get /dev/smb* ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:09:45 -0000 =D0=90=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=9A=D0=BB=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=81 writes: >> >> mbmon is very old. =C2=A0I've never gotten it to work on any machine I've >> every tried it on. >> >> Does your boot time output show anything smb-related at all, such as >> maybe "smbios0: at ..."? =C2=A0It's possible th= at >> your machine simply has no support for this. >> > > # dmesg -a |grep smb > > - returns nothing. > > Does it means that it is no way to read temperature sensors on motherboar= d? Have you tried: $ sysctl -a | grep temperature dev.cpu.0.temperature: 29.2C dev.cpu.1.temperature: 29.2C for your system? I have an AMD cpu and the amdtemp kernel module provides that information. I am not familiar with the Intel cpus, but the coretemp module is supposed to provide the same information for them. I use gkrellm for various thing, and it will display that information directly. --=20 Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 16:28:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A391065673 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0348FC08 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBD6B9.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.214.185]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pA2GSSgO045857; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:28:29 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA2GSHpb015497; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:28:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA2GS42P001966; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:28:10 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201111021628.pA2GS42P001966@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Damien Fleuriot From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0100." <4EB16572.4080100@my.gd> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:28:04 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CARP related trivial question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:28:31 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Damien Fleuriot > Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0100 > Message-id: <4EB16572.4080100@my.gd> Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 11/1/11 8:19 AM, Snoop wrote: > > Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive reply. I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow. > > P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel. Snoop is not on CC line, I hope he's on this list. Snoop wrote : There aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel So Snoop must install modules ! # cd /sys/`uname -m`/conf && config GENERIC cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make ; make install > > ____________ > > > > Hi everybody, > > I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented. > > > > In the CARP man pages is clearly stated > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: > > __________________________________________________________________ > > "To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as > > described in Chapter 9 with the following option: > > device carp > > > > Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the > > following line to the /boot/loader.conf: > > if_carp_load="YES" " > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not > > while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on > > loader.conf. > > I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that > > working on any node. > > I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1. > > > > Am I missing something? > > Any tip would be appreciated. > > > > > You have already receive a reply on-list, which asked if you had > /boot/kernel/if_carp* files . > I haven't followed further so I'm not sure if you ever replied to it or not. > > > Find below the same output from a 8.2-STABLE box: > > > mybsd root /boot/kernel > > # uname -a > FreeBSD mybsd 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 12 16:58:51 CEST > 2011 root@mybsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAM amd64 > > > mybsd > root /boot/kernel > > # ls -la > /boot/kernel/if_carp* > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 44384 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 197856 Oct 12 17:11 > /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko.symbols > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 16:47:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087A81065675 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A04B8FC26 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE774.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.231.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pA2GlE3V046023; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:47:15 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA2Gl2Ci015596; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:47:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA2Gko9h002669; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:46:57 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201111021646.pA2Gko9h002669@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Carl Johnson From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:08:42 MST." <87hb2mzet6.fsf@oak.localnet> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:46:50 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get /dev/smb* ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:47:20 -0000 > Have you tried: > > $ sysctl -a | grep temperature > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 29.2C > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 29.2C s/temperature/temp/ & some systems will show more, eg: sysctl -a | grep temp | grep -v template dev.cpu.0.temperature: 35.0C dev.amdtemp.0.%desc: AMD K8 Thermal Sensors dev.amdtemp.0.%driver: amdtemp dev.amdtemp.0.%parent: hostb4 dev.amdtemp.0.sensor0.core0: 35.0C dev.amdtemp.0.sensor0.core1: 35.0C dev.amdtemp.0.sensor1.core0: 35.0C dev.amdtemp.0.sensor1.core1: 35.0C Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 18:32:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15145106566B for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FF38FC15 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA2IW9Gc012316; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:32:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4EB18CA7.2090308@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:32:07 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111023 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:32:11 -0000 On 11/01/2011 19:35, Adam Vande More wrote: > I believe you have asked this before, and the answer is still the > same. It works for me. > > flashplayer 11 hit ports today, you could try removing 10, installing > 11 and seeing if that helps you at all. No, version 11 doesn't work on my machine either. Youtube and whatever worked before still works. This is still a mistery. Also nspluginplayer doesn't seem to work on any page. For example, command nspluginplayer type=application/x-shockwave-flash "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvCMN2gfyzE" that I think should work doesn't. Only shows the white window saying "No movie loaded" on the right mouse click. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 18:42:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87765106566C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEBD8FC15 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so1085688faa.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:42:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=e0zpeF5L8797VB5bsxmlIHoOIyaxkf9VaSzMIUvEewU=; b=f49jn/FhhLJSE6NbkfFtCVIvfM8xch5EiHQ+KZhCCow1yWklJBQKs2Ufzno21VIbP3 B4dP4BvD1dxH5Uf+BQsCURGC8xGGiANBJyFUsjBf29xCRFTnUQQoh5Fr+p8Z2/5MD85q YLPqdi+4VcnQsYTKU62mM+8JnLq6Xcg7uSF/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.91.68 with SMTP id l4mr10213601fam.16.1320259326180; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.72 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:42:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EB18CA7.2090308@rawbw.com> References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> <4EB18CA7.2090308@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:42:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:42:07 -0000 On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Yuri wrote: > No, version 11 doesn't work on my machine either. Youtube and whatever > worked before still works. This is still a mistery. > > Also nspluginplayer doesn't seem to work on any page. For example, command > nspluginplayer type=application/x-shockwave-**flash " > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=vvCMN2gfyzE > " > that I think should work doesn't. Only shows the white window saying "No > movie loaded" on the right mouse click > Can you try creating a new user, and under that user install flash per the handbook. That should at least tell if it's some local user settings causing the issue. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 18:45:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7958B106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370A08FC0A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so692703vws.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:45:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=WVPssmobFG/9TKF6H+ErFcZg++NdN6SShpV3XvI+jM0=; b=k0qC6WheyJ168CvWB3WnONXSlQ8GIekwmXliJAQrobHWBR1XIJYYKuH9XAAZdG4YL2 LfrJWvAvzsvDMljEdBy1xkHqWAwPgR4AoKYJEXTlrf27ylFtVg5RNsldJhWRioHhKmfM wS1A3Iny+N72ixg4YBtPBQzi5aRomum32Qh0k= Received: by 10.52.64.169 with SMTP id p9mr5666387vds.99.1320259548558; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id et6sm4323506vdc.15.2011.11.02.11.45.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:45:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) Message-Id: <2F2D8B00-E534-4B34-A91F-2CA290086E7E@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:45:39 -0300 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Make buildworld don't run X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:45:49 -0000 I write "make buildworld", this is the answer: #make buildworld make: don't know how to make buildworld. Stop PS: I use FreeBSD 9.0 RC1, and I try to follow current Zantgo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 18:52:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37DE106566C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431818FC08 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:52:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so1098559faa.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:52:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=FFYM8Yi0Fd/3kghEecVq+0tikEBEGDO5OpRW5Ml7rYo=; b=Z1m79WNcaPd6VwjhwSKmFo1BjqJJ0GeZXjxh2Mx5iLc0LYtSvlYP5x5D+2M+1h1LJk w6i2336Sx1urmczRWM0DZr/HOxjqUSD0ef2gZp6JPK8ZIuCbqHjN6zS1yQZZfWFdHour pGxsOE4Rs7KrNznDSfVenZHWtsxCHmTwhNLyA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.17.23 with SMTP id q23mr10296594faa.11.1320259962979; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.72 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:52:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2F2D8B00-E534-4B34-A91F-2CA290086E7E@gmail.com> References: <2F2D8B00-E534-4B34-A91F-2CA290086E7E@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:52:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Make buildworld don't run X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:52:44 -0000 On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Zantgo wrote: > I write "make buildworld", this is the answer: > > #make buildworld > make: don't know how to make buildworld. Stop > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 19:36:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659481065748 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6758FC1D for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id pA2JXUNU056769; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:33:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id pA2JXUBX056768; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:33:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:33:30 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Zantgo Message-ID: <20111102193330.GA56609@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <2F2D8B00-E534-4B34-A91F-2CA290086E7E@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2F2D8B00-E534-4B34-A91F-2CA290086E7E@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Make buildworld don't run X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:36:30 -0000 On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 03:45:39PM -0300, Zantgo wrote: > I write "make buildworld", this is the answer: > > #make buildworld > make: don't know how to make buildworld. Stop > > PS: I use FreeBSD 9.0 RC1, and I try to follow current What user/permissions did you have? Which directory were you in? I think you need to be root and in /usr/src I could be wrong. ////jerry > > Zantgo > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 19:44:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7C5106564A; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBFF8FC12; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:44:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf22 with SMTP id 22so5051134wwf.1 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:44:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=+hvX3QVBOSRkNqTldnThL9ovbXVTkneFw8I9guQcEHo=; b=XycBqKd5M/tP4DVIejlP5z1opJK1jESRX2rB/0l/TghHJTvL83glVmitZilqZuBovL lesryoCA4Vk45fTbU9IoAiUKqMW/f57PYQQ6cdZdorh3OZby2t88E6EEYdl/ZY3CA7F/ JZuJ7U3sKXRmSinZwKGLxRl9Q1R8QRFQtEwQ4= Received: by 10.227.197.129 with SMTP id ek1mr1701904wbb.13.1320263075383; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.dg (41-132-93-69.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.132.93.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q30sm5962895wbn.17.2011.11.02.12.44.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:44:34 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:44:43 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-BETA2; KDE/4.7.1; amd64; ; ) References: <201110251852.47385.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201110251852.47385.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart10565378.ZVaR4hU2ys"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201111022144.47020.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: Romain Garbage Subject: Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.31 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:44:37 -0000 --nextPart10565378.ZVaR4hU2ys Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have fixed an issue where the integrated nVidia patch failed to install o= r=20 run as expected. The packages [4] have been uploaded and replaced the old= =20 packages. =20 Only if you are a nVidia user who has been unable to get wine-1.3.31 workin= g=20 would you need to download and install the updated packages. =20 Lastly, there are reports that wine does not work with a clang built world.= =20 Regards, David [4] MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.3.31,1.tbz) =3D e38e694dc55a99882c137d0f11b4e= b9e MD5 (freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.3.31,1.txz) =3D 59ec8c1b68e3eb12f4b2c97674d0d= 563 On Tuesday, 25 October 2011 18:52:40 David Naylor wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.31 have been uploaded to mediafire [2] a= nd > the wine-fbsd64.diff patch has been updated. There is a known UDP related > problem with wine (see http://markmail.org/message/i7rtfz7uxd5s4fvl for > details). >=20 > To date there has been 1217 (+70) downloads from mediafire. >=20 > The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run = on > installation (if the relevant files are accessable). Please read the > installation messages for further information. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > David > [1] > MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.3.31,1.tbz) =3D > 3ada791cc70a692b71f331a9b658d0ce MD5 (freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.3.31,1.txz) = =3D > 7b9f0b9a122646822542e540aeed09e5 [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 > [3] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh --nextPart10565378.ZVaR4hU2ys Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk6xna8ACgkQUaaFgP9pFrL+swCePrfN919FbCN5UQlT+AiWXxhM iA8An2tBJp1CWYj/wqdKDH+uDrKI6b+B =0TcI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart10565378.ZVaR4hU2ys-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 19:51:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4517C106567B for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94268FC15 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so700272wyg.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:51:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=k9KtclCcJiHK09Tc225LIe3/rZXGW9etJ8v2dLVk0pw=; b=Xmn9nX/fMkwqYevkAChN59NoAP0VQ+gho2zBY9LPjmRJfC8k3dRgVF9rt1w39ZLpZx cjsLhFp7BHeX5y1E7figKkiJIhwPutYtJx2Vsjrqyh+flaSzPTvezfMrcAwseVZ13W0C JljbS7UWtHF5uurdbEvq+WQmUqnquySgtaTz0= Received: by 10.227.199.132 with SMTP id es4mr7530393wbb.5.1320263488585; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e40sm6047952wbp.3.2011.11.02.12.51.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:51:28 -0700 (PDT) References: <2F2D8B00-E534-4B34-A91F-2CA290086E7E@gmail.com> <20111102193330.GA56609@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20111102193330.GA56609@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <67120694-B7F5-42E0-A753-64AFF462AE89@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:51:16 -0300 To: Jerry McAllister Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Make buildworld don't run X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:51:30 -0000 El 02-11-2011, a las 16:33, Jerry McAllister escribi=C3=B3= : > On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 03:45:39PM -0300, Zantgo wrote: >=20 >> I write "make buildworld", this is the answer: >>=20 >> #make buildworld >> make: don't know how to make buildworld. Stop >>=20 >> PS: I use FreeBSD 9.0 RC1, and I try to follow current >=20 > What user/permissions did you have? > Which directory were you in? >=20 > I think you need to be root and in /usr/src >=20 > I could be wrong. >=20 > ////jerry Yeah!!, I just had to be in / usr / src, thank you very much!. PS: as the directory name that comes after typing "cd" as root or user? >=20 >>=20 >> Zantgo >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 20:00:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D784A106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506338FC0C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RLgyg-0001uh-P8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:00:02 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:00:02 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:00:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:00:22 -0400 Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <2F2D8B00-E534-4B34-A91F-2CA290086E7E@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Make buildworld don't run X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:00:05 -0000 Zantgo wrote: > I write "make buildworld", this is the answer: > > #make buildworld > make: don't know how to make buildworld. Stop Since this works just fine for all those who have learned how to use FreeBSD I can only assume this indicates you do not know what you are doing. > PS: I use FreeBSD 9.0 RC1, and I try to follow current This is a poor choice for anyone new to FreeBSD. There are mainly 3 branches of FreeBSD to consider: -CURRENT is for developers and other contributors working on the next version of FreeBSD, -STABLE is somewhat in the middle in that it will have patches for problems that have been fixed in current and merged back to earlier release versions of code, and RELEASE. There is also a SECURITY branch where only security patches are updated to RELEASE. Since it is obvious you do not know what you are doing the best place for you to begin is RELEASE. Install and begin using a RELEASE version as a learning tool. This means version 8.2! The Handbook may have pieces which are old and could stand updating, but largely it is _THE_ reference you should be working your way through as you proceed to learn FreeBSD. The greatest bulk of what you need to learn is in there. It comes in versions other than English too: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html If your only exposure to date with computers has been with Windows and you are looking to expand your reach, you will first find that the *Nix world is heavy on reading documentation and trying to figure stuff out for yourself first, before splattering help channels with every little thing that comes along. Once you have made some intial effort you will find that you are in a better position to provide better details on how we can help you. We cannot help you with the effort you need to make in learning the basics, and these basics are all contained in the documentation. I will make no effort to address your error. First of all, you should not be starting in FreeBSD with a release candidate and following -CURRENT. Your error is the result of trying to jump over learning what you need to know. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 20:12:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4764D10656E6 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004DF8FC17 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnq2 with SMTP id q2so695606ggn.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:12:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=QogYUphxwGm8MCA5oUu4EOdNUQPTt2M1NvB0rhypeJg=; b=CpMPS+9F5iHb+DGuZ2c5g5Z6xFQlA06v1Y5MZz3RPub1lKHjEHfi9Ar9rEGUGzlk0w buXSEqqw6Jq82y8A7HLhjDZMKphDIvi62pi5FPcay8SK4wo8c0JWY7gXJZHPKax17I99 BOuqzb2fY4nD0W9zElvcmLTFMN/WlHKVlOgzE= Received: by 10.236.122.237 with SMTP id t73mr5367793yhh.99.1320264773272; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l27sm10158458ani.21.2011.11.02.13.12.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:12:52 -0700 (PDT) References: <2F2D8B00-E534-4B34-A91F-2CA290086E7E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <06C07808-6B78-4C42-8259-F683D85F1E12@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:12:37 -0300 To: "nightrecon@hotmail.com" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Make buildworld don't run X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:12:54 -0000 El 02-11-2011, a las 17:00, Michael Powell escribi=C3= =B3: > If your only exposure to date with computers has been with Windows and you= =20 > are looking to expand your reach, you will first find that the *Nix world i= s=20 > heavy on reading documentation and trying to figure stuff out for yourself= =20 > first, before splattering help channels with every little thing that comes= =20 > along. Once you have made some intial effort you will find that you are in= a=20 > better position to provide better details on how we can help you. We canno= t=20 > help you with the effort you need to make in learning the basics, and thes= e=20 > basics are all contained in the documentation.=20 >=20 > I will make no effort to address your error. First of all, you should not b= e=20 > starting in FreeBSD with a release candidate and following -CURRENT. Your=20= > error is the result of trying to jump over learning what you need to know Now this worked for me and at one time thought to hold steady, but I thought= that opened many dependencies, and need more current packages so take care n= ot release From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 20:16:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0153E1065673 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65808FC16 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnq2 with SMTP id q2so699106ggn.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:16:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=iz29cles/f5615sUAGIGVD1zLj8bOaGyujkcOvYYIIE=; b=feuEuUSkXAN59nhbq6rkIITLyqxbD7X6mM2/IDueGHxL6rtXSMVf2wHXu6eRgWW9bh SaTii33PODe5WsMbr8gVn/XhEEQ9hGikLwLllYF/3RfY1NOUC7OCuFXW/aoH0/7UBYTi mwdfwF1AljjQKFkzKKmE2yrb4xby5w4i7z/40= Received: by 10.236.161.193 with SMTP id w41mr9169207yhk.93.1320264964088; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 32sm10234830anu.10.2011.11.02.13.15.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) Message-Id: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:15:56 -0300 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Not found slim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:16:05 -0000 I install slim and xfce4, and I put slim in the boot, when the system bootin= g, everything works fine when login screen appears I can not type slim or mo= ve the mouse, which is the problem? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 20:32:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D46106566B for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D7B8FC18 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RLhUU-0001Ow-Bs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:32:54 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.99.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:32:54 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:32:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:33:15 -0400 Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <2F2D8B00-E534-4B34-A91F-2CA290086E7E@gmail.com> <06C07808-6B78-4C42-8259-F683D85F1E12@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-99-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Make buildworld don't run X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:32:59 -0000 Zantgo wrote: > > El 02-11-2011, a las 17:00, Michael Powell > escribió: > >> If your only exposure to date with computers has been with Windows and >> you are looking to expand your reach, you will first find that the *Nix >> world is heavy on reading documentation and trying to figure stuff out >> for yourself first, before splattering help channels with every little >> thing that comes along. Once you have made some intial effort you will >> find that you are in a better position to provide better details on how >> we can help you. We cannot help you with the effort you need to make in >> learning the basics, and these basics are all contained in the >> documentation. >> >> I will make no effort to address your error. First of all, you should not >> be starting in FreeBSD with a release candidate and following -CURRENT. >> Your error is the result of trying to jump over learning what you need to >> know > > Now this worked for me and at one time thought to hold steady, but I > thought that opened many dependencies, and need more current packages so > take care not release Nope. Make buildworld is how you begin a source-based upgrade to the operating system. This is completely different and separate from anything package related. You are completely on the wrong track with this. Study the Handbook some more and this may become apparent. When you refresh your ports tree (which handles dependency tracking whether you are installing from ports or using packages) you will always be looking at the latest ports/packages. This is true no matter which branch of the OS you are using. Install RELEASE, refresh your ports tree, and you will still have all the 'most current packages'. You do *NOT* need to be running - CURRENT in order to have the 'most current packages'! This still reiterates the need for you to read and study the documentation. All of this information is present in the documentation. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 20:48:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1218D1065672 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DEB8FC12 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E344628DFC for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C59D228DFB; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:48:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from dijkstra (p5B379D55.dip.t-dialin.net [91.55.157.85]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E12EB28DF8 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:48:31 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111102214831.6e5c9e0c@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> References: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Not found slim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:48:33 -0000 On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:15:56 -0300 Zantgo wrote: > I install slim and xfce4, and I put slim in the boot, when the system > booting, everything works fine when login screen appears I can not > type slim or move the mouse, which is the problem? My prime suspect would dbus not running. Had something similar and resolved it with dbus. Cheers, -- Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 20:54:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EC8106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02808FC14 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA2KsCHZ047061; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:54:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4EB1ADF4.80607@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:54:12 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111023 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> <4EB18CA7.2090308@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:54:13 -0000 On 11/02/2011 11:42, Adam Vande More wrote: > Can you try creating a new user, and under that user install flash per > the handbook. That should at least tell if it's some local user > settings causing the issue. When I create the new user, flash in FF doesn't work at all. Instructions from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html (*Under FreeBSD 8.X*) are followed. symlink /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so -> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so exists. Also packages nspluginwrapper-1.4.4 linux-f10-flashplugin-11.0r1.152 are installed. The reason why flash works in my main user is that ~/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so file exists there. I am not sure what this file ~/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so is and where did it come from. So does this mean that instructions in handbook are wrong? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 20:56:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB3E1065672 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6198FC16 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt32 with SMTP id 32so746275ywt.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:56:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=clqqzqNizCPfZtO65DeoLdXFpVWKzWkzGZjVZAmIJlU=; b=Ag3IgGhxwBi+A7x958TFvQaExQ5WtN9bYN+u8pKyxj+ll4m7UByjySGMLZdr4ykqCk ENo5K3BqzacXFgiVQgV1078tZ2Cy9OKX3d5yfqQ//ZYNrGEmFjxW9ytl7dcdJKkhe8C6 xZoUAfDBu7CSC162fMR/eCioaUu1xtvGSAkCc= Received: by 10.236.155.74 with SMTP id i50mr9910660yhk.23.1320267364953; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z28sm5896582yhl.4.2011.11.02.13.55.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:56:04 -0700 (PDT) References: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> <20111102214831.6e5c9e0c@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <20111102214831.6e5c9e0c@dijkstra> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <3832B795-8B7F-43C4-9AF9-64EEBC813C0A@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:55:47 -0300 To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Not found slim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:56:06 -0000 El 02-11-2011, a las 17:48, "Christopher J. Ruwe" escribi=C3=B3= : > On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:15:56 -0300 > Zantgo wrote: >=20 >> I install slim and xfce4, and I put slim in the boot, when the system >> booting, everything works fine when login screen appears I can not >> type slim or move the mouse, which is the problem? >=20 > My prime suspect would dbus not running. Had something similar and resolve= d it with dbus. >=20 > Cheers, But in my rc.conf said "dbus_enable=3D"YES" > --=20 > Christopher J. Ruwe > TZ GMT + 1 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 21:19:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075AA106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mwi1.coffeenet.org (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3BB8FC0C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:19:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=EsdrE/HLosLwVSS+z7Vt2prAdycELBtZqIIRLeD+iQs=; b=sGeJ7hDG4UMWN1pY858tg8P3d/X7GLtKL4dkNmTgXMHCreR0jSHF1OkBg/fYmheA9Yfsma7LUSkIhcvexfq3Lh7//N72QP/f6P+Ka11IGhPxATi/lY3XvgLqLD2aDNrH; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by mwi1.coffeenet.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RLiDE-000IzR-7Y for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:19:09 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1320268746-84560-84558/5/8; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:19:06 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> <20111102214831.6e5c9e0c@dijkstra> <3832B795-8B7F-43C4-9AF9-64EEBC813C0A@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:19:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3832B795-8B7F-43C4-9AF9-64EEBC813C0A@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.52 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.0 Cc: Subject: Re: Not found slim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:19:10 -0000 On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:55:47 -0500, wrote: > But in my rc.conf said "dbus_enable="YES" and HAL? Your Xorg was probably compiled with HAL. I've had this problem before though and the fix was to recompile X without HAL. Sucks to not be able to plug&play though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 21:19:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8303D1065742 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DFB8FC16 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so1278797faa.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:19:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XSwSuBqrjFnGe/yrmXGc+pAguKsMMoun5/XOKRhl6uk=; b=YG4qfedOCcjI2lpOFqfipTGOlGONZhXXhiHtFjdU8XUAAnGGyRUbJTAq8i10PBP7Go R21HBKyyzuYf6cYUTsn8DuPpTJQmSe4Pq714DEEX0714ULynInp8IZcc2BC0gYjdjipd DNfVDMmrAero+EHzL6w72XlqZccpiQvNmBfBo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.91.68 with SMTP id l4mr11085928fam.16.1320268767868; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.72 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:19:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EB1ADF4.80607@rawbw.com> References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> <4EB18CA7.2090308@rawbw.com> <4EB1ADF4.80607@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:19:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:19:29 -0000 On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Yuri wrote: > On 11/02/2011 11:42, Adam Vande More wrote: > > Can you try creating a new user, and under that user install flash per the > handbook. That should at least tell if it's some local user settings > causing the issue. > > > When I create the new user, flash in FF doesn't work at all. Instructions > from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html (*Under > FreeBSD 8.X*) are followed. > symlink /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so -> > /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so exists. > Also packages > nspluginwrapper-1.4.4 > linux-f10-flashplugin-11.0r1.152 > are installed. > > The reason why flash works in my main user is that ~/.mozilla/plugins/ > npwrapper.libflashplayer.so file exists there. > > I am not sure what this file ~/.mozilla/plugins/ > npwrapper.libflashplayer.so is and where did it come from. > It comes from the rest of the instructions section, namely "nspluginwrapper -v -a -i". So does this mean that instructions in handbook are wrong? > When it's followed in it's entirety, it works. As your new user, execute "nspluginwrapper -l". If you don't get output similar to this: > nspluginwrapper -l /home/adam/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Original plugin: /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so Plugin viewer: /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer Wrapper version string: 1.4.4-1 then you have not followed the instructions completely. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 21:25:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11241065670 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from mail.neu.net (neu.net [204.109.60.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB6E8FC1C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [204.109.60.194]) by mail.neu.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA2KqGuj008044 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:52:16 GMT (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:52:15 +0000 (UTC) From: AN To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at neu.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=3.8 tests=TO_NO_BRKTS_DIRECT, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.neu.net Subject: DNS config help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:25:41 -0000 I have a question about how to configure DNS. My local network is 10.x, and I sometimes need to connect to a remote VPN. My question is how do I configure BIND to forward queries to a different server only for a specific domain. When I am connected to the VPN, vpn.example.com, I want queries for anything going to example.com to go a specific DNS, and everything else on 10.x to go to my regular DNS. Please let me know if I need to provide more info. Thanks in advance for any help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 21:29:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626EA1065677 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210D68FC17 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11so780014gyb.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:29:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=5hEci79eGybjdM2+Kk2c3FLLuQpBMIFwyk+zKFaN6q4=; b=EE6oCUbDgeyHuFU99herUl/Y+zZCqMxUIr8xPAYQWNck2hyyS1iTpfb3RShdgwEoDh qaONe5C2n9eWG8JcsXD4AtqJaBKdrPQeJOL1Rj9TacgEoFOEeqqrXQJvB+R6aeIqL9Xq gq3b537nnHjYWiSgjlFfmt7QXFEGPakBjY4bg= Received: by 10.236.173.202 with SMTP id v50mr5597013yhl.102.1320269356369; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w68sm5990576yhe.14.2011.11.02.14.29.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:29:15 -0700 (PDT) References: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> <20111102214831.6e5c9e0c@dijkstra> <3832B795-8B7F-43C4-9AF9-64EEBC813C0A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <999EE89C-2C3E-4663-A0D0-71715E85F1FC@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:29:07 -0300 To: Mark Felder Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Not found slim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:29:17 -0000 El 02-11-2011, a las 18:19, Mark Felder escribi=C3=B3: > On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:55:47 -0500, wrote: >=20 >> But in my rc.conf said "dbus_enable=3D"YES" >=20 > and HAL? Your Xorg was probably compiled with HAL. I've had this problem b= efore though and the fix was to recompile X without HAL. Sucks to not be abl= e to plug&play though. hal also on that of the installation of Xorg, do not set anything after xorg= pkg_add-r, nor have I installed the nvidia driver, which I configured in xo= rg? > ____________________________ > ___________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 21:37:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8777A106566B for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ashley.wil@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469CB8FC19 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfk26 with SMTP id fk26so906176vcb.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:37:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/DHP6T/etjYSaDNjdp5Cet+YdrwMWUKyMs6+cpH/t40=; b=c+0jUwjtrAqasFmiVw6UGJAbXJrfcvuFuRgfMxvwdfapigt0rPFarJ2oq0sFct1tBq tyn6guyx4PwGDXPoRT7hTO42GcHh6vjwANFFE3wX42IWkA4VAKKajNNGFIVzdbYhCaDz fEx8ihQjvGYjwMv3I+c2cjTie4EVVoIpuHEYk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.17.112 with SMTP id n16mr6414452vdd.70.1320269876760; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.108.73 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:37:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111031233812.34c7f61d@cox.net> References: <20111031233812.34c7f61d@cox.net> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:37:56 +1000 Message-ID: From: Ashley Williams To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard lockups with RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:37:57 -0000 > I've seen a few of these, too, in RC-1. =A0I assumed they might be relate= d > to my having recently upgraded to the flash 11 port, but hadn't gotten > around to reporting anything yet. =A0Like you, I have no hard data to > base any conclusions on as to what's causing the lockups. I can confirm Flash does cause the lock up, but I'm running flash 10, not 1= 1. Nevertheless this is a problem with linux emulation, not flash From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 20:13:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EC510656D6 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from viton_60@mail.ru) Received: from fallback7.mail.ru (fallback7.mail.ru [94.100.176.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A530D8FC12 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from f7.mail.ru (f7.mail.ru [217.69.129.67]) by fallback7.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 6BFEB68C15A2 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:51:19 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail; h=Message-Id:Content-Type:Reply-To:Date:Mime-Version:Subject:To:From; bh=yTIdG1yigBzKi6rLGPcjOr1mNaDLikDWQWDbzYzqbEc=; b=uWq71IAf44k9ceyyle0omFuOOjVTM85u/odOzdC/UAdaOzUuu8DE4HL4KPnYIpeNw8T/yc7VK/s19YyafqmlMK8iDIXtSFJ99WlO7QDQMtG5NZV9EANJq6m+ALdRRfCe; Received: from mail by f7.mail.ru with local id 1RLgqC-0004NH-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:51:16 +0400 Received: from [93.73.209.240] by e.mail.ru with HTTP; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:51:16 +0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?VmljdG9yIEtyaXZvZG9ub3Y=?= To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [93.73.209.240] Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:51:16 +0400 X-Priority: Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Mras: Ok X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:47:21 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Support AMD Bulldozer, Raid0 on SSD SATA3, Raid0 on SSD PCI-Express 2.0 (3.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?UTF-8?B?VmljdG9yIEtyaXZvZG9ub3Y=?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:13:16 -0000 CsKgSGVsbG8hwqBUZWxsIG1lwqBhYm91dCDCoFBDLUJTRDkuMCwgcGxlYXNlOgoxIFN1cHBvcnQg Zm9ywqBBTUTCoEJ1bGxkb3plcsKgMsKgUmFpZMKgMCAoZm9ywqBTQVRBMywgUENJRXhwcmVzcyAy LjAgKDMuMCkKwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAg wqAgwqAgwqAgVGhhbmsgeW91ISDCoFZpY3Rvci7CoA== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 22:05:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1F4106566C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8098FC08 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so855855wyg.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:05:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.204.204 with SMTP id fn12mr7917219wbb.21.1320271554508; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:05:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:05:54 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: AN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS config help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:05:56 -0000 It depends... some VPNs push routes, including default routes, and nameservers and search paths, but it's up to the client on how to handle it. Some of these will set /etc/resolv.conf, etc. What *kind* of VPN are you talking about? OpenVPN? PPTP? L2TP? I generally prefer dnscache to BIND, and the mechanism for selective resolution is straightforward. Some large companies, HP included, just publish internal (non-routable) addresses for hosts on their public servers, which solves the remote access DNS problem. - M On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:52 PM, AN wrote: > I have a question about how to configure DNS. =A0My local network is 10.x= , and > I sometimes need to connect to a remote VPN. =A0My question is how do I > configure BIND to forward queries to a different server only for a specif= ic > domain. > > When I am connected to the VPN, vpn.example.com, I want queries for anyth= ing > going to example.com =A0to go a specific DNS, and everything else on 10.x= to > go to my regular DNS. =A0Please let me know if I need to provide more inf= o. > =A0Thanks in advance for any help. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 22:10:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFAC106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE9A8FC14 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA2MAEmW095309; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4EB1BFC5.6060905@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:10:13 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111023 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> <4EB18CA7.2090308@rawbw.com> <4EB1ADF4.80607@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:10:16 -0000 On 11/02/2011 14:19, Adam Vande More wrote: > It comes from the rest of the instructions section, namely > "nspluginwrapper -v -a -i". Sorry I missed this one. Now, after this is done and ~/.mozilla/plugins are identical for both users, my new user shows this link http://belapan.by/archive/2009/07/10/media_yakubovich fine, but the old user has the same problem as before. And this link http://www.reuters.com/video/2011/11/01/greek-referendum-disappoints-markets?videoId=224096981&videoChannel=2602 both of them don't show at all. (pressing the arrow doesn't play any video) Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 22:11:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761111065672 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDA58FC13 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF001703E; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:11:20 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4EB1C007.4040607@hdk5.net> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:11:19 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Al Plant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: How to remove ACPI from boot ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:11:23 -0000 Aloha, I have a box that wont shut down with ACPI setting activated. Anyone point me to a how to on keeping ACPI from being set to on at boot. Thanks . ## Please copy me directly as I cant get messages on the list for some reason. Any one know who I can email about whats blocking the FreeBSD list? ## ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 22:15:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8264A106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256B68FC0C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwp14 with SMTP id 14so1010346wwp.31 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.137.84 with SMTP id x62mr6778460wei.28.1320272143193; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EB1C007.4040607@hdk5.net> References: <4EB1C007.4040607@hdk5.net> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:15:43 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: noc@hdk5.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to remove ACPI from boot ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:15:44 -0000 in /boot/loader.conf (see /boot/defaults/loader.conf) acpi_load=3D"NO" On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Al Plant wrote: > Aloha, > > I have a box that wont shut down with ACPI setting activated. Anyone poin= t > me to a how to on keeping ACPI from being set to on at boot. > > Thanks . > > ## Please copy me directly as I cant get messages on the list for some > reason. Any one know who I can email about whats blocking the FreeBSD lis= t? > ## > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - =A0Phone: =A0808-284-2740 > =A0+ http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + > =A0+ http://aloha50.net =A0 - Supporting - FreeBSD =A07.2 - 8.0 - 9* + > =A0< email: noc@hdk5.net > > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 22:33:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365AC106567A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45418FC1C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so1358973faa.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:33:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=d96FyvuTTrSVLIdS+cPe7h1qq57tX5MyqVtRCbzyhCU=; b=tsfpcxJdvyTnIDRST8BLqMrKVsKjlL9t5Hqef4GFk477jOdPlAZ/SHK+twLQUBn5Yt Bf1hRMoA7dQJcKfgTLVhbIxRlNva+bp3YUrXdOH3PZAEkFOa/PD04861R/eMO9sEEvYQ ob8/O+B+IUb4r13EQpUl+OC2KuAZ3zzraVeSo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.81.196 with SMTP id y4mr11573670fak.6.1320273199455; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.72 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:33:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EB1BFC5.6060905@rawbw.com> References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> <4EB18CA7.2090308@rawbw.com> <4EB1ADF4.80607@rawbw.com> <4EB1BFC5.6060905@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:33:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:33:21 -0000 On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Yuri wrote: > On 11/02/2011 14:19, Adam Vande More wrote: > > It comes from the rest of the instructions section, namely > "nspluginwrapper -v -a -i". > > > Sorry I missed this one. > > Now, after this is done and ~/.mozilla/plugins are identical for both > users, my new user shows this link > http://belapan.by/archive/2009/07/10/media_yakubovich fine, but the old > user has the same problem as before. > And this link > http://www.reuters.com/video/2011/11/01/greek-referendum-disappoints-markets?videoId=224096981&videoChannel=2602both of them don't show at all. (pressing the arrow doesn't play any video) > Well we can then say there is something in your home directory preventing the first video from playing. Perhaps some type of flash setting, I don't know. In regards to the second, I just tried it on a new clean install of 9 RC 1 and it didn't work. However it worked after I installed flashblock. There seems to be a least one secondary flash object on that page which prevents the video from playing. However, I will add on rare occasion I've found a video like this and it actually will play eventually, perhaps after hours of waiting. I think the reason for this is that the linuxulator doesn't perfectly emulate Linux system calls, and when you run flash that which targets these system calls, the npviewer cannot proceed until those calls are finished. In those cases, quite a bit of time can elapse until those faulty syscalls end hence the very long delay before video playback. That's just a theory, and I'm happy to be proven wrong. Or even better, proven right and fixed. In the meantime, you now have workarounds for both videos. I'm sure you can get the bottom of the trouble with first video with some tenacity, as the problem must exist in your home directory. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 22:48:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1D0106566C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm12.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm12.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC0108FC14 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:48:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.52.189] by nm12.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2011 22:35:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.169] by tm2.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2011 22:35:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1052.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2011 22:35:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 386553.59623.bm@omp1052.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 25398 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2011 22:35:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1320273326; bh=Loj/AAHr1wTTdtPocWCw6lMYOnp9PO/Aw2KvqfA4Ucs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kwl2ilxkko2W5s1jt+hwNaIpFyzudPD7uX9Su0EH7u3bFrxpMJhGo5b9KoIm4WD4kKSEU7/qALGogsawrj70SwqUqV/GHSJC7LP0HSpegHu1MlnCcro2oFnGtjoJpRaN/RNUQ+gYVW1R3RQvpb0disClxu3rO57wFLqRVUYXrkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sKgTWfQmsGq8LHpZlkm0Z29aZj73KcOToQXuLSYsGRia1wXSvVLaseLbUh28dJDetC2KjjM1HaKuErp14hpiziQ/npCJqviWjkQEAthpd4esk/N4zbgvgvI+1sTTrxcFGps/dUH3aqsOxk0RD0QCD6b6JrJj07JhPbO7DxxMqk4=; X-YMail-OSG: OLH8zTUVM1lUXo9t37oIFm5f3cl08GwJ8TRb0x8CEiaj661 xL7o1NY07 Received: from [98.203.44.66] by web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:35:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 References: <2F2D8B00-E534-4B34-A91F-2CA290086E7E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1320273326.17536.YahooMailNeo@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:35:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Make buildworld don't run X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bill Tillman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:48:28 -0000 ________________________________ From: Michael Powell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Make buildworld don't run Zantgo wrote: > I write "make buildworld", this is the answer: > > #make buildworld > make: don't know how to make buildworld. Stop Since this works just fine for all those who have learned how to use FreeBSD I can only assume this indicates you do not know what you are doing. > PS: I use FreeBSD 9.0 RC1, and I try to follow current This is a poor choice for anyone new to FreeBSD. There are mainly 3 branches of FreeBSD to consider: -CURRENT is for developers and other contributors working on the next version of FreeBSD, -STABLE is somewhat in the middle in that it will have patches for problems that have been fixed in current and merged back to earlier release versions of code, and RELEASE. There is also a SECURITY branch where only security patches are updated to RELEASE. Since it is obvious you do not know what you are doing the best place for you to begin is RELEASE. Install and begin using a RELEASE version as a learning tool. This means version 8.2! The Handbook may have pieces which are old and could stand updating, but largely it is _THE_ reference you should be working your way through as you proceed to learn FreeBSD. The greatest bulk of what you need to learn is in there. It comes in versions other than English too: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html If your only exposure to date with computers has been with Windows and you are looking to expand your reach, you will first find that the *Nix world is heavy on reading documentation and trying to figure stuff out for yourself first, before splattering help channels with every little thing that comes along. Once you have made some intial effort you will find that you are in a better position to provide better details on how we can help you. We cannot help you with the effort you need to make in learning the basics, and these basics are all contained in the documentation. I will make no effort to address your error. First of all, you should not be starting in FreeBSD with a release candidate and following -CURRENT. Your error is the result of trying to jump over learning what you need to know. -Mike _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Is it just me or does someone need to choke this guy. We all had to start somewhere and granted this guy's question was a newbie one, but please get off your soapbox. It's amazing how you make no effort to help this person yet you have the time to make alot of effort to ridicule. Your entire response could have been as simple as: cd /usr/src I work with people all the time who complain that they have no time to help you yet they have all the time in the world to send a lame e-mail complaining about how they have no time to help you. Lighten up ... life is too short, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 23:14:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FEB106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D12B8FC16 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA2NEXcJ023487; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:14:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4EB1CED9.3020408@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:14:33 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111023 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> <4EB18CA7.2090308@rawbw.com> <4EB1ADF4.80607@rawbw.com> <4EB1BFC5.6060905@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:14:35 -0000 On 11/02/2011 15:33, Adam Vande More wrote: > In regards to the second, I just tried it on a new clean install of 9 > RC 1 and it didn't work. However it worked after I installed > flashblock. There seems to be a least one secondary flash object on > that page which prevents the video from playing. However, I will add > on rare occasion I've found a video like this and it actually will > play eventually, perhaps after hours of waiting. I think the reason > for this is that the linuxulator doesn't perfectly emulate Linux > system calls, and when you run flash that which targets these system > calls, the npviewer cannot proceed until those calls are finished. In > those cases, quite a bit of time can elapse until those faulty > syscalls end hence the very long delay before video playback. > > That's just a theory, and I'm happy to be proven wrong. Or even > better, proven right and fixed. In the meantime, you now have > workarounds for both videos. I'm sure you can get the bottom of the > trouble with first video with some tenacity, as the problem must exist > in your home directory. Workaround for only one by changing the user, and the other one just doesn't work for any user. It would be easier to have standalone nspluginplayer working, but it doesn't. Do you know why it doesn't work as it used to? Command nspluginplayer type=application/x-shockwave-flash "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvCMN2gfyzE" for example fails to show video for me too for all users. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 23:26:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BC0106564A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595F48FC0C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE774.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.231.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pA2NEY3d048440; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:14:35 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA2NEMUd018956; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:14:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA2NEAAa025258; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:14:16 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201111022314.pA2NEAAa025258@fire.js.berklix.net> To: noc@hdk5.net From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:11:19 -1000." <4EB1C007.4040607@hdk5.net> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:14:10 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: mail list debug - Was Re: How to remove ACPI from boot ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:26:18 -0000 Al Plant wrote: > ## Please copy me directly as I cant get messages on the list for some > reason. Any one know who I can email about whats blocking the FreeBSD > list? ## It's downstream from freebsd.org toward you then, so suggestions: 1) Ask your own postmaster@hdk5.net Point them at eg http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-November/234989.html Which proves everyone else is getting your mail that you are not. 2) We have a test list you / your postmaster@ can subscribe to send test messages: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-test 3) Subscribe from some other domain 4) If postmaster@freebsd.org has time to answer a request from you, he might be able to tell you if mail to your subscribed address might be part of a block forwarding to another SMTP relay ( & your recipient SMTP might have that relay blocked ? Remember to declare if eg you might be receiving Elsewhere@ & forwarding to @hdk5.net, & perhaps with a 2nd subscribtion of @hdk5.net for outgoing, in that case the Elsewhere might have falsely black listed @freebsd.org (or a downstream relay) as eg a spammer (innocent domains occasionaly accidentaly &/or maliciously get listed as spam domains) 5) Ask your postmaster@ if freebsd.org or any intermediate relay (See #4) Might be listed in the RBL (Automated Domain Spam Black Lists) that about a dozen different organsiations offer) Ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 23:29:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D218106566B for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C910D8FC13 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfk26 with SMTP id fk26so1004181vcb.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=99GovjmBEwWl0kQB0yyVlhoebQaQ9B3z1p17zSBY4UU=; b=P2YZLSc/AzzYeCgEuYB2/Q0vbV9eHSy8MXiEa2csy1/eeIg0ceN5iiNaT9PG5OkBD+ Qbr5+g7Xv8hTAFORWh7SYZHKu9Xa/Dq5mtPciXoQUS3qbXyCpq62TnwVaImMS1enV1Ti Ym/7nE6uDf1Cdeg/VNVRux0pK2c8LjjzqLjTg= Received: by 10.52.96.98 with SMTP id dr2mr6955087vdb.6.1320276575997; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id et7sm5281589vdc.18.2011.11.02.16.29.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:29:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:29:15 -0300 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Cc: Subject: Problem with dbus in boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:29:37 -0000 I have added my rc.conf dbus, but when the system boots, get the following m= essage: Starting dbus. Failed to start message bus: Could not get UID and GID for username "message= bus" /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start dbus= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 23:30:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F679106566C for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BDE8FC12 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so1412831faa.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:30:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=APSgrFgivFAYxoREJbFTRAKmUE7/6Kt1e8vLahw0OJM=; b=vRLGo0WeEh7UZBfRmcv6N8Vht1r4o5TMvQK8I83kk+fOOIaMLAYvIBnOvbMpPrPdz0 crRBsX2OBDjeX3Wvdib7gfg/Js6uu1TEOS4lJaYAeV6AABbKAhvJBgT1fwN0T+kcupqi SxC0DcmjLpnTyvB94CYSXFbCcztoYefJ5wsME= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.88.150 with SMTP id a22mr8121668fam.1.1320276644411; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.72 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:30:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EB1CED9.3020408@rawbw.com> References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> <4EB18CA7.2090308@rawbw.com> <4EB1ADF4.80607@rawbw.com> <4EB1BFC5.6060905@rawbw.com> <4EB1CED9.3020408@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:30:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:30:46 -0000 On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Yuri wrote: > Workaround for only one by changing the user, and the other one just > doesn't work for any user. > > You seem to have a terrible habit of skipping all the important details. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 23:45:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B59106566B for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777128FC15 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA2NjtCm028678; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:45:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4EB1D632.4000608@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:45:54 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111023 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> <4EB18CA7.2090308@rawbw.com> <4EB1ADF4.80607@rawbw.com> <4EB1BFC5.6060905@rawbw.com> <4EB1CED9.3020408@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:45:57 -0000 On 11/02/2011 16:30, Adam Vande More wrote: > You seem to have a terrible habit of skipping all the important details. Oh no, I read all your messages. The second video, you said, works for you with the flashblock. But not for me though. Flashblock didn't change anything for me. .by movie has a workaround of changing the user for me. I will be trying to determine what is exactly the dependency on the home dir with DTrace. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 23:46:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9E41065674 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C818FC16 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (63.9.74.86.rev.sfr.net [86.74.9.63]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A8513FAA31A5; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:46:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3127311FA; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:46:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:46:52 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: noc@hdk5.net Message-ID: <20111103004652.644541fb@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <4EB1C007.4040607@hdk5.net> References: <4EB1C007.4040607@hdk5.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to remove ACPI from boot ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:46:56 -0000 Le Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:11:19 -1000, Al Plant a crit : > Aloha, Bonjour, > I have a box that wont shut down with ACPI setting activated. Anyone > point me to a how to on keeping ACPI from being set to on at boot. in /boot/loader.conf hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 man acpi (DISABLING ACPI) Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 23:49:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0991065670 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619F48FC1D for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (63.9.74.86.rev.sfr.net [86.74.9.63]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8F714FAA31A5 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:48:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1AE7311FA for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:48:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:48:58 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111103004858.1d3a65ab@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: References: <4EB1C007.4040607@hdk5.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: How to remove ACPI from boot ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:49:00 -0000 Le Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:15:43 -0700, Michael Sierchio a crit : > in /boot/loader.conf (see /boot/defaults/loader.conf) > > acpi_load="NO" Not useful since acpi is built by default in the kernel GENERIC. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 23:51:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9578F1065672 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF918FC17 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbooklocal.local ([10.10.10.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA2Npkc1026309 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:51:47 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4EB1D792.8070103@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:51:46 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: nfs client speed lower than expected. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:51:51 -0000 Hi all, What kind of speed should I be expecting over an NFS mount from a linux box using a gig interface (igb)? I'm seeing linux clients getting approx 2 or 3 times the throughput rsyncing files from a linux nfs server that i get from a 8-stable FreeBSD client. representative results 7.26MB/s - Freebsd client 21.10MB/s liunx client I've tried a variety of files to try and take caching out of the equation, I've tweaked a few sysctls after much googling kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=4000000 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=16384 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=524288 net.inet.udp.recvspace=65535 net.local.stream.recvspace=65535 net.local.stream.sendspace=65535 with no obvious improvement. freebsd mount options ro,noatime,noexec,nosuid,udp,nfsv3,rsize=1024,wsize=1024,bg,hard,intr,timeout=4,retrans=4 linux mount options _netdev,ro,noatime,nodev,noexec,nosuid,proto=udp,vers=3,rsize=1k,wsize=1k,bg,hard,intr,timeo=4,retrans=4 I have seen that using the linux server as an nfs client to write to the NFS server on the freebsd box gives similar performance to a linux client pulling from the linux server so I'm guessing its something to do with the freebsd nfs client? Any suggestions/clues welcome. Thanks, Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 23:53:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46CF1065670 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CF38FC0A for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so955010wyg.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:53:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.205.2 with SMTP id fo2mr8458896wbb.21.1320278038246; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:53:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EB1D792.8070103@unsane.co.uk> References: <4EB1D792.8070103@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:53:58 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Vincent Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfs client speed lower than expected. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:53:59 -0000 Mount via tcp. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > Hi all, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0What kind of speed should I be expecting over an NFS mount= from > a linux box using a gig interface (igb)? I'm seeing linux clients > getting approx 2 or 3 times the throughput rsyncing files from a linux > nfs server that i get from a 8-stable FreeBSD client. > representative results > 7.26MB/s - Freebsd client > 21.10MB/s liunx client > I've tried a variety of files to try and take caching out of the > equation, I've tweaked a few sysctls after much googling > > kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=3D4000000 > net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=3D16777216 > net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=3D16777216 > net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=3D16384 > net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=3D524288 > net.inet.udp.recvspace=3D65535 > net.local.stream.recvspace=3D65535 > net.local.stream.sendspace=3D65535 > > with no obvious improvement. > freebsd mount options > ro,noatime,noexec,nosuid,udp,nfsv3,rsize=3D1024,wsize=3D1024,bg,hard,intr= ,timeout=3D4,retrans=3D4 > linux mount options > _netdev,ro,noatime,nodev,noexec,nosuid,proto=3Dudp,vers=3D3,rsize=3D1k,ws= ize=3D1k,bg,hard,intr,timeo=3D4,retrans=3D4 > > I have seen that using the linux server as an nfs client to write to the > NFS server on the freebsd box gives similar performance to a linux > client pulling from the linux server so I'm guessing its something to do > with the freebsd nfs client? > > Any suggestions/clues welcome. > > Thanks, > Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 00:06:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3125F106567E for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from emlpirnp0.waddell.com (emlpirnp0.waddell.com [67.130.252.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032898FC13 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com ([10.1.10.30]) by emlpirnp1.waddell.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2011 18:55:07 -0500 Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DDBB308003; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:55:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com (advphtcas0.wradvisors.com [192.168.203.228]) by emlpfilt2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EAD308002; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:55:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.184]) by ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com ([192.168.203.228]) with mapi; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:55:07 -0500 From: Gary Gatten To: 'Vincent Hoffman' , "FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:55:06 -0500 Thread-Topic: nfs client speed lower than expected. Thread-Index: AcyZuoaxrlzu8+MWT8SJHwtsAlvVTwAACUIA Message-ID: <6727_1320278107_4EB1D85B_6727_448_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499CB3E6CF5@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <4EB1D792.8070103@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EB1D792.8070103@unsane.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: nfs client speed lower than expected. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:06:01 -0000 Is the interface really at 1Gb? Have you tested with iperf, ftp, or anythi= ng other than nfs? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Hoffman Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:52 PM To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: nfs client speed lower than expected. Hi all, What kind of speed should I be expecting over an NFS mount from a linux box using a gig interface (igb)? I'm seeing linux clients getting approx 2 or 3 times the throughput rsyncing files from a linux nfs server that i get from a 8-stable FreeBSD client. representative results 7.26MB/s - Freebsd client 21.10MB/s liunx client I've tried a variety of files to try and take caching out of the equation, I've tweaked a few sysctls after much googling kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=3D4000000 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=3D16777216 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=3D16777216 net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=3D16384 net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=3D524288 net.inet.udp.recvspace=3D65535 net.local.stream.recvspace=3D65535 net.local.stream.sendspace=3D65535 with no obvious improvement. freebsd mount options ro,noatime,noexec,nosuid,udp,nfsv3,rsize=3D1024,wsize=3D1024,bg,hard,intr,t= imeout=3D4,retrans=3D4 linux mount options _netdev,ro,noatime,nodev,noexec,nosuid,proto=3Dudp,vers=3D3,rsize=3D1k,wsiz= e=3D1k,bg,hard,intr,timeo=3D4,retrans=3D4 I have seen that using the linux server as an nfs client to write to the NFS server on the freebsd box gives similar performance to a linux client pulling from the linux server so I'm guessing its something to do with the freebsd nfs client? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 00:08:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AA21065672 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B1A8FC0A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9D50FE807FD; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:08:41 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20111103000838.GA16121@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: Anything like mkmf for foo linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:08:42 -0000 i asked the seattle linux group and the mkmf they have on/for ubuntu was "fine." not by me. i started to port our mkmf which is non-trivial at best. so:: are there any other kinds of makefile creators in ports that i can use on my FBSD server AND SEE IF UBUNTU HAS A SIMILAR PACKAGE? fwiw,i HAVE PORTED A FEW THINGS ACROSS. dunno what id do w/out the src!! thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 00:09:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0B4106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C888FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D961703E; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:52:42 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4EB1D7CA.302@hdk5.net> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:52:42 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Lamaiziere , freebsd-questions References: <4EB1C007.4040607@hdk5.net> <20111103004652.644541fb@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <20111103004652.644541fb@davenulle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: How to remove ACPI from boot ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:09:21 -0000 Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Le Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:11:19 -1000, > Al Plant a crit : > >> Aloha, > > Bonjour, > >> I have a box that wont shut down with ACPI setting activated. Anyone >> point me to a how to on keeping ACPI from being set to on at boot. > > in /boot/loader.conf > hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 > > man acpi > (DISABLING ACPI) > > Regards. > Aloha, That worked. Merci ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 00:31:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C49106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cybernautape@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592498FC14 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so981914wyg.13 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:31:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WQmQnUJ9MtS/WtcSlyMuGf43yqlTBcEfYSMDsYgI+y0=; b=gHkaI1w8INy4NyZ0F2ueU+0KPtGJdwP+sd1emW4TOxKzUFnizhntgTEccT0P1kZvtW YHj3ghIH5NJ4aFtOn+tJmyaOYwRp3z4PMAfr6NhcbNIUlczUMYglZMTAwAovoDcLdNvk BLseUgmhFW9zYzIWuaS2uJYYVLVP/nk4rfiLY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.134.28 with SMTP id r28mr2031111wei.60.1320280318014; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.185.208 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:31:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> References: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:31:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Edgar Rodolfo To: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Not found slim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:31:59 -0000 2011/11/2, Zantgo : > I install slim and xfce4, and I put slim in the boot, when the system > booting, everything works fine when login screen appears I can not type slim > or move the mouse, which is the problem? Did you read about xorg in handbook?, did you read the message when slim finished the installation?, check the file rc.conf, add slim_enable="YES", hald_enable="YES", dbus_enable="YES", also you should do Xorg -configure, friend you should do it, you SHOULD READ THE HANDBOOK!!!! or use man!!!! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Edguitar ;) http://cybernautape.blogspot.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 03:25:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE56106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 03:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1618FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 03:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B96A1E46F; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:25:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pA33PuMQ002048; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:25:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:25:56 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Yuri Message-Id: <20111103042556.e690c672.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4EB1D632.4000608@rawbw.com> References: <4EB0AA92.7030004@rawbw.com> <4EB18CA7.2090308@rawbw.com> <4EB1ADF4.80607@rawbw.com> <4EB1BFC5.6060905@rawbw.com> <4EB1CED9.3020408@rawbw.com> <4EB1D632.4000608@rawbw.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why some flash sites don't work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:25:59 -0000 On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:45:54 -0700, Yuri wrote: > On 11/02/2011 16:30, Adam Vande More wrote: > > You seem to have a terrible habit of skipping all the important details. > > Oh no, I read all your messages. The second video, you said, works for > you with the flashblock. But not for me though. Flashblock didn't change > anything for me. .by movie has a workaround of changing the user for me. I just wanted to let you know that both videos you've mentioned in your initial post do play here. I have OS 8.2-STABLE of August 2011, x86 version, and I'm using those installed packages: opera-11.50 opera-linuxplugins-11.50 linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r183.5 nspluginwrapper-1.4.4 swfdec-plugin-0.8.2_3 Then I did exactly follow the text of the handbook. It doesn't work in Firefox here (as due to some obscure GPU fault, running FF freezes the machine), but it works totally fine in Opera, as expected. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 03:32:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4D5106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 03:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A105A8FC12 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 03:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFBD1E46F; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:32:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pA33WNI5002077; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:32:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:32:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Zantgo Message-Id: <20111103043223.8ecdbab8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Problem with dbus in boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:32:24 -0000 On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:29:15 -0300, Zantgo wrote: > I have added my rc.conf dbus, but when the system boots, get the following message: > > Starting dbus. > Failed to start message bus: Could not get UID and GID for username "messagebus" > /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start dbus It seems that the installation of dbus wasn't successful. It should've added thr required settings to the system's user database. Check those: % grep bus /etc/passwd /etc/group /etc/passwd:messagebus:*:556:556:D-BUS Daemon User:/nonexistent:/usr/sbin/nologin /etc/group:messagebus:*:556: This is from a system having installed dbus-1.4.6, but _not_ running it (as I don't have any need for it). Maybe you can repeat the installation of dbus (from ports or packages) and make sure the data is added to the files mentioned above, and the corresponding databases have been rebuilt? Obviously you are missing those required settings, so /etc/rc cannot start dbus - to be expected. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 03:38:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955D01065670 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 03:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B35D8FC16 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 03:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494EA1D90F; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:38:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pA33c0BE002390; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:38:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:38:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20111103043800.a8674ee2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111103000838.GA16121@thought.org> References: <20111103000838.GA16121@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Anything like mkmf for foo linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:38:03 -0000 On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:08:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > fwiw,i HAVE PORTED A FEW THINGS ACROSS. dunno what id do w/out the > src!! Keep the mkmf source -- seems that is has been removed from the ports tree. Port: mkmf-4.11 Path: /usr/ports/devel/mkmf Info: Creates program and library makefiles for the make(1) command Maint: ports@FreeBSD.org Moved: Date: 2011-08-01 Reason: Has expired: Looks like an abandonware, no more public distfile Planned obsolescence in action? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 07:18:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D4E106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:18:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snoop@email.it) Received: from smtp-out06.email.it (smtp-out06.email.it [212.97.34.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E1F8FC16 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out06.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906BD2C038; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:18:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out06.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out06.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rfraPRN0WQb4; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:18:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.0.59] (inhio.eu [84.242.85.251]) by smtp-out06.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015232C025; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:18:30 +0100 (CET) From: Snoop To: "Julian H. Stacey" In-Reply-To: <201111021628.pA2GS42P001966@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201111021628.pA2GS42P001966@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:18:30 +0100 Message-ID: <1320304710.17303.11.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Damien Fleuriot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CARP related trivial question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 07:18:34 -0000 Thanks guys. I think Julian gave me the answer I was looking for. On the other hand I believe that CARP handbook/man pages are inaccurate. I'm not supposed to look for these kind of things on a mailing list. "Working instructions" are the most important information and have to be there. I also think that the "arp load balancing" section of CARP is not that complete. But anyway, it's just my point of view on this very specific case as I'm generally very happy about the quality of Free/Open BSD man pages. Thank you all for your time, have a good day. On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 17:28 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: > > From: Damien Fleuriot > > Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0100 > > Message-id: <4EB16572.4080100@my.gd> > > Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 11/1/11 8:19 AM, Snoop wrote: > > > Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive reply. I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow. > > > P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel. > > Snoop is not on CC line, I hope he's on this list. > Snoop wrote : > There aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel > So Snoop must install modules ! > # cd /sys/`uname -m`/conf && config GENERIC > cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make ; make install > > > > > ____________ > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented. > > > > > > In the CARP man pages is clearly stated > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > "To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as > > > described in Chapter 9 with the following option: > > > device carp > > > > > > Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the > > > following line to the /boot/loader.conf: > > > if_carp_load="YES" " > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not > > > while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on > > > loader.conf. > > > I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that > > > working on any node. > > > I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1. > > > > > > Am I missing something? > > > Any tip would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > You have already receive a reply on-list, which asked if you had > > /boot/kernel/if_carp* files . > > I haven't followed further so I'm not sure if you ever replied to it or not. > > > > > > Find below the same output from a 8.2-STABLE box: > > > > > > mybsd root /boot/kernel > > > > # uname -a > > FreeBSD mybsd 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 12 16:58:51 CEST > > 2011 root@mybsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAM amd64 > > > > > > mybsd > > root /boot/kernel > > > > # ls -la > > /boot/kernel/if_carp* > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 44384 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 197856 Oct 12 17:11 > > /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko.symbols > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > Cheers, > Julian -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Halloween a Rimini, hotel+parco, con i Torre Pedrera Hotels, Euro 90 a coppia in bed & breakfast, con ingresso ai parchi tematici della romagna Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11896&d=3-11 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 07:19:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4759C106566B for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snoop@email.it) Received: from smtp-out08.email.it (smtp-out08.email.it [212.97.34.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E758FC14 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out08.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74DBC010; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:18:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out08.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out08.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rO6CVI+sPASL; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:18:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.0.59] (inhio.eu [84.242.85.251]) by smtp-out08.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC53C00E; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:18:59 +0100 (CET) From: Snoop To: "Julian H. Stacey" In-Reply-To: <201111021628.pA2GS42P001966@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201111021628.pA2GS42P001966@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:18:30 +0100 Message-ID: <1320304710.17303.11.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Damien Fleuriot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CARP related trivial question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 07:19:02 -0000 Thanks guys. I think Julian gave me the answer I was looking for. On the other hand I believe that CARP handbook/man pages are inaccurate. I'm not supposed to look for these kind of things on a mailing list. "Working instructions" are the most important information and have to be there. I also think that the "arp load balancing" section of CARP is not that complete. But anyway, it's just my point of view on this very specific case as I'm generally very happy about the quality of Free/Open BSD man pages. Thank you all for your time, have a good day. On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 17:28 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: > > From: Damien Fleuriot > > Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0100 > > Message-id: <4EB16572.4080100@my.gd> > > Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 11/1/11 8:19 AM, Snoop wrote: > > > Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive reply. I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow. > > > P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel. > > Snoop is not on CC line, I hope he's on this list. > Snoop wrote : > There aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel > So Snoop must install modules ! > # cd /sys/`uname -m`/conf && config GENERIC > cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make ; make install > > > > > ____________ > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented. > > > > > > In the CARP man pages is clearly stated > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > "To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as > > > described in Chapter 9 with the following option: > > > device carp > > > > > > Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the > > > following line to the /boot/loader.conf: > > > if_carp_load="YES" " > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not > > > while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on > > > loader.conf. > > > I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that > > > working on any node. > > > I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1. > > > > > > Am I missing something? > > > Any tip would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > You have already receive a reply on-list, which asked if you had > > /boot/kernel/if_carp* files . > > I haven't followed further so I'm not sure if you ever replied to it or not. > > > > > > Find below the same output from a 8.2-STABLE box: > > > > > > mybsd root /boot/kernel > > > > # uname -a > > FreeBSD mybsd 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 12 16:58:51 CEST > > 2011 root@mybsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAM amd64 > > > > > > mybsd > > root /boot/kernel > > > > # ls -la > > /boot/kernel/if_carp* > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 44384 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 197856 Oct 12 17:11 > > /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko.symbols > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > Cheers, > Julian -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? 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Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11451&d=3-11 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 07:51:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150B5106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D1B8FC12 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA37pDO5042660 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:51:14 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pA37pDO5042660 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1320306674; bh=VtlVwLccE8TCYbMC8NK6aQf9XfPygv0gx4esvtYFxIE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=slhxa7FTepAmr+vqQKmJGDls+f+6tncpJx8+oDl+vcJ0iYYmX8YbXg2z4mvgHIxZw D9WQnFoXjzHobMmqxrmJSMB24y1vXs5vu62K4g7A2t40W3gTH8jJeNMPLzmziBlHO5 yGpgHjTiO+4nokRYTYECzXkbBEIc7wp+Tc0ha2Tc= Message-ID: <4EB247E7.1010708@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 07:51:03 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AN References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig211D2095B954D7E0E0C150D1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS config help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 07:51:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig211D2095B954D7E0E0C150D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/11/2011 20:52, AN wrote: > I have a question about how to configure DNS. My local network is 10.x= , > and I sometimes need to connect to a remote VPN. My question is how do= > I configure BIND to forward queries to a different server only for a > specific domain. This sounds like a job for a static-stub domain. That's a fairly new feature in BIND, so you may well need to install bind98 from ports. See the documentation here: http://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/cur/9.8/doc/arm/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#zone_statem= ent_grammar > When I am connected to the VPN, vpn.example.com, I want queries for > anything going to example.com to go a specific DNS, and everything els= e > on 10.x to go to my regular DNS. Please let me know if I need to > provide more info. Thanks in advance for any help. Hmmm.... I don't think you're going to have much fun at all if you try and modify your named configuration depending on whether your VPN is up or not. DNS TTLs are generally of the order of days -- that should be taken as a measure of the minimum time that should go between restarts of a recursive DNS (ideally, and as a long term average). Better to just fail the lookup when the VPN is down. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig211D2095B954D7E0E0C150D1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6yR/EACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxeFwCfdY24tmHqcd0XMRm4ntZ6olaE dNMAn02wH6zD3XLzqkZFM5A9n8u7GH9o =6nsB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig211D2095B954D7E0E0C150D1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 10:00:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37351065676 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F5B8FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwp14 with SMTP id 14so1618958wwp.31 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.187.212 with SMTP id y62mr7392346wem.8.1320314413967; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ei16sm9143060wbb.21.2011.11.03.03.00.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB2662A.2010609@my.gd> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:00:10 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EB247E7.1010708@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EB247E7.1010708@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DNS config help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:00:26 -0000 On 11/3/11 8:51 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 02/11/2011 20:52, AN wrote: >> I have a question about how to configure DNS. My local network is 10.x, >> and I sometimes need to connect to a remote VPN. My question is how do >> I configure BIND to forward queries to a different server only for a >> specific domain. > > This sounds like a job for a static-stub domain. That's a fairly new > feature in BIND, so you may well need to install bind98 from ports. See > the documentation here: > > http://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/cur/9.8/doc/arm/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#zone_statement_grammar > You can simply create a forward zone. If this should only apply to your VPN clients, then create a view that matches only their IP, for example: acl trusted { 127.0.0.1; ::1; 192.168.0.0/24; }; view internal_in in { match-clients { trusted; }; recursion yes; additional-from-auth yes; additional-from-cache yes; zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; zone "avocat-conseil.fr" { type forward; forwarders { 192.168.252.252; }; forward only; }; }; I have the exact one setup here, allow me to explain. There's a server at my parents' office (wow this sounds so awkward, when I re-read it) that handles: - dhcp - dns - firewalling - smb shares - routing There's also a small VPN box that's, so to speak, outside our perimeter because it's an appliance and I have 0 level of control over it, it runs at 192.168.252.252 in its own separate VLAN and establishes a VPN with some law organization thingy, using an IP range of 172.30.* >From the server, I route 172.30.* to the VPN box, and I also make that box authoritative for a few domains, including the one quoted above. I'm not certain what you're trying to accomplish, but this works like a charm here. >> When I am connected to the VPN, vpn.example.com, I want queries for >> anything going to example.com to go a specific DNS, and everything else >> on 10.x to go to my regular DNS. Please let me know if I need to >> provide more info. Thanks in advance for any help. > > Hmmm.... I don't think you're going to have much fun at all if you try > and modify your named configuration depending on whether your VPN is up > or not. DNS TTLs are generally of the order of days -- that should be > taken as a measure of the minimum time that should go between restarts > of a recursive DNS (ideally, and as a long term average). Better to > just fail the lookup when the VPN is down. > Actually, using a view that matches only the VPN's IP range would do the trick easily and efficiently. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 10:07:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA731065670 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F408FC08 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbooklocal.local (lon.namesco.net [195.7.254.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA3A7TrT049486 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:07:29 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4EB267E0.1050201@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:07:28 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Gatten References: <4EB1D792.8070103@unsane.co.uk> <6727_1320278107_4EB1D85B_6727_448_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499CB3E6CF5@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <6727_1320278107_4EB1D85B_6727_448_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499CB3E6CF5@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: nfs client speed lower than expected. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:07:31 -0000 iperf [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 3] 0.0-60.2 sec 6.22 GBytes 887 Mbits/sec transfers in via ssh are nice and nifty too. Vince On 02/11/2011 23:55, Gary Gatten wrote: > Is the interface really at 1Gb? Have you tested with iperf, ftp, or anything other than nfs? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Hoffman > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:52 PM > To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org > Subject: nfs client speed lower than expected. > > Hi all, > What kind of speed should I be expecting over an NFS mount from > a linux box using a gig interface (igb)? I'm seeing linux clients > getting approx 2 or 3 times the throughput rsyncing files from a linux > nfs server that i get from a 8-stable FreeBSD client. > representative results > 7.26MB/s - Freebsd client > 21.10MB/s liunx client > I've tried a variety of files to try and take caching out of the > equation, I've tweaked a few sysctls after much googling > > kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=4000000 > net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216 > net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216 > net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=16384 > net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=524288 > net.inet.udp.recvspace=65535 > net.local.stream.recvspace=65535 > net.local.stream.sendspace=65535 > > with no obvious improvement. > freebsd mount options > ro,noatime,noexec,nosuid,udp,nfsv3,rsize=1024,wsize=1024,bg,hard,intr,timeout=4,retrans=4 > linux mount options > _netdev,ro,noatime,nodev,noexec,nosuid,proto=udp,vers=3,rsize=1k,wsize=1k,bg,hard,intr,timeo=4,retrans=4 > > I have seen that using the linux server as an nfs client to write to the > NFS server on the freebsd box gives similar performance to a linux > client pulling from the linux server so I'm guessing its something to do > with the freebsd nfs client? > > Any suggestions/clues welcome. > > Thanks, > Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > >
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If you have > received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by > return email and delete this email from your system." > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 10:24:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19401065670 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358B18FC15 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:24:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbooklocal.local (lon.namesco.net [195.7.254.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA3AOiVP050119 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:24:45 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4EB26BEC.3070004@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:24:44 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Sierchio References: <4EB1D792.8070103@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfs client speed lower than expected. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:24:46 -0000 I'll give it a try when i get a moment, These servers are all on gigabit LAN (sadly 1500 mtu until I can get the network guy to schedule an outage to reboot the switches and enable jumbo frames,) same subnet so i would expect UDP to have similar or better performance. Vince On 02/11/2011 23:53, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Mount via tcp. > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: >> Hi all, >> What kind of speed should I be expecting over an NFS mount from >> a linux box using a gig interface (igb)? I'm seeing linux clients >> getting approx 2 or 3 times the throughput rsyncing files from a linux >> nfs server that i get from a 8-stable FreeBSD client. >> representative results >> 7.26MB/s - Freebsd client >> 21.10MB/s liunx client >> I've tried a variety of files to try and take caching out of the >> equation, I've tweaked a few sysctls after much googling >> >> kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=4000000 >> net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max=16777216 >> net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_max=16777216 >> net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_inc=16384 >> net.inet.tcp.recvbuf_inc=524288 >> net.inet.udp.recvspace=65535 >> net.local.stream.recvspace=65535 >> net.local.stream.sendspace=65535 >> >> with no obvious improvement. >> freebsd mount options >> ro,noatime,noexec,nosuid,udp,nfsv3,rsize=1024,wsize=1024,bg,hard,intr,timeout=4,retrans=4 >> linux mount options >> _netdev,ro,noatime,nodev,noexec,nosuid,proto=udp,vers=3,rsize=1k,wsize=1k,bg,hard,intr,timeo=4,retrans=4 >> >> I have seen that using the linux server as an nfs client to write to the >> NFS server on the freebsd box gives similar performance to a linux >> client pulling from the linux server so I'm guessing its something to do >> with the freebsd nfs client? >> >> Any suggestions/clues welcome. >> >> Thanks, >> Vince >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 10:32:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F8D106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497F08FC19 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:32:16 +0000 (GMT) X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requirements X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium Received: from localhost (adsl-68-18-111-140.sdf.bellsouth.net[68.18.111.140]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20111103103216H0100n4cgqe>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:32:16 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.18.111.140] From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20111103103218.58F8D106566C@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:32:18 -0000 What software, base or ports, is used to burn a CD or DVD on a SATA drive, /dev/cd0 ? Would burncd be appropriate, or do I need cdrtools? Or cdrkit? This is on FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 amd64. I built and installed sysutils/cdrtools when there was a thread on burncd and SATA, but cdrecord can't see anything (running "cdrecord -scanbus"): cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl failed. Cannot open or use SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd9.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2010 Jrg Schilling Running "cdrecord dev=help" or "cdrecord dev=HELP:" did no better. I had a similar problem on the older computer (i386 with ATA, not SATA) in NetBSD, but cdrecord ran well in Linux. CD-RW drive there is ATAPI. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 10:35:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494581065670 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD1E8FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA3AZnQF044877 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:35:49 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pA3AZnQF044877 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1320316549; bh=bbuazSKUvRVpObYuITHlfNOFRBAy9a9lWdnP7DMQiwc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=JgM9fTlRVA77n27M98h+5iwVmY35SpHkVg2nEalR59YfnNhK6veOCCYlUrn/DdW3K 0jiWOZxpuzFGMy5SYQs5Rlm4OWXJ+2lDnmyDjS0b3T55dR+FYNkjM0uWPUDg9wW3sW ZsNBTN+ekkeQGhG41igEAx+Y2Rjcnms3pu1nkBdM= Message-ID: <4EB26E7D.3020105@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:35:41 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EB247E7.1010708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4EB2662A.2010609@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <4EB2662A.2010609@my.gd> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0D14D87DB06F8E2EA54CC339" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: DNS config help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:35:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0D14D87DB06F8E2EA54CC339 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/11/2011 10:00, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > You can simply create a forward zone. Actually, yes, that's a good idea too. Should have much the same effect and it's been available in BIND approximately forever. There's difference in the niggling details of how it all works, so worth experimenting with the different possibilities. >>> When I am connected to the VPN, vpn.example.com, I want queries for >>> >> anything going to example.com to go a specific DNS, and everythin= g else >>> >> on 10.x to go to my regular DNS. Please let me know if I need to >>> >> provide more info. Thanks in advance for any help. >> >=20 >> > Hmmm.... I don't think you're going to have much fun at all if you t= ry >> > and modify your named configuration depending on whether your VPN is= up >> > or not. DNS TTLs are generally of the order of days -- that should = be >> > taken as a measure of the minimum time that should go between restar= ts >> > of a recursive DNS (ideally, and as a long term average). Better to= >> > just fail the lookup when the VPN is down. >> >=20 > Actually, using a view that matches only the VPN's IP range would do th= e > trick easily and efficiently. Views are a way of giving a different answer depending on who is asking the question -- how does that help the OP when he's always querying from within his 10.0.0.0/8 network? He's the client connecting to the VPN her= e. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig0D14D87DB06F8E2EA54CC339 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6yboQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyfKQCeOVLWj8BDhjv6ViYsTRT1LY8m HfQAn3E9Wg5JnrkjHsxtywxIJ386sHQn =Eno8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0D14D87DB06F8E2EA54CC339-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 10:43:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247A7106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76118FC14 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE774.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.231.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pA3AhfFo061712; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:43:42 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA3AhU53021837; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:43:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA3AhCpq028944; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:43:18 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201111031043.pA3AhCpq028944@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Snoop From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:18:30 +0100." <1320304710.17303.11.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:43:12 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Damien Fleuriot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CARP related trivial question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:43:46 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Snoop > Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:18:30 +0100 > Message-id: <1320304710.17303.11.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Snoop wrote: > Thanks guys. I think Julian gave me the answer I was looking for. > > On the other hand I believe that CARP handbook/man pages are inaccurate. > I'm not supposed to look for these kind of things on a mailing list. > "Working instructions" are the most important information and have to be > there. I also think that the "arp load balancing" section of CARP is not > that complete. But anyway, it's just my point of view on this very > specific case as I'm generally very happy about the quality of Free/Open > BSD man pages. Man pages are easy to fix ! Just edit the source & send in a diff with send-pr. Handbook pages are harder to edit, cos it uses a tool chain that always breaks for me, so editing source for that is harder, but you can still use send-pr. If necessary let the www@ team reverse your HTML diffs back to their SGML or whatever ;-) > > Thank you all for your time, have a good day. > > On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 17:28 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi, > > Reference: > > > From: Damien Fleuriot > > > Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0100 > > > Message-id: <4EB16572.4080100@my.gd> > > > > Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > On 11/1/11 8:19 AM, Snoop wrote: > > > > Sorry but I have to re-post my question as I didn't get any exhaustive reply. I can't believe that nobody is aware of this anyhow. > > > > P.S. Nop, there aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel. > > > > Snoop is not on CC line, I hope he's on this list. > > Snoop wrote : > > There aren't related loadable modules in /boot/kernel > > So Snoop must install modules ! > > # cd /sys/`uname -m`/conf && config GENERIC > > cd /usr/src/sys/modules ; make ; make install > > > > > > > > ____________ > > > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > I've got a pretty trivial question but I'm kind of disoriented. > > > > > > > > In the CARP man pages is clearly stated > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html: > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > "To enable support for CARP, the FreeBSD kernel must be rebuilt as > > > > described in Chapter 9 with the following option: > > > > device carp > > > > > > > > Alternatively, the if_carp.ko module can be loaded at boot time. Add the > > > > following line to the /boot/loader.conf: > > > > if_carp_load="YES" " > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > I'm not new to FreeBSD but I didn't manage to load that as a module, not > > > > while the OS is running neither at the startup adding the param on > > > > loader.conf. > > > > I'd love to do that instead of recompiling the kernel to get that > > > > working on any node. > > > > I'm talking about FreeBSD 8.1. > > > > > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > Any tip would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have already receive a reply on-list, which asked if you had > > > /boot/kernel/if_carp* files . > > > I haven't followed further so I'm not sure if you ever replied to it or not. > > > > > > > > > Find below the same output from a 8.2-STABLE box: > > > > > > > > > mybsd root /boot/kernel > > > > > > # uname -a > > > FreeBSD mybsd 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 12 16:58:51 CEST > > > 2011 root@mybsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAM amd64 > > > > > > > > > mybsd > > > root /boot/kernel > > > > > > # ls -la > > > /boot/kernel/if_carp* > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 44384 Oct 12 17:11 /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 197856 Oct 12 17:11 > > > /boot/kernel/if_carp.ko.symbols > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > Julian > > > > > -- > Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f > > Sponsor: > Vuoi arredare casa con stile? MisterCupido.com realizza perfette Riproduzioni d'Opere d'Arte! Scopri subito le nostre migliori proposte in offerta! > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11451&d=3-11 > Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 11:14:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE9B1065670 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90FE8FC13 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636143C945; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:14:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pA3BEiff006844; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:14:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:14:44 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas Mueller" Message-Id: <20111103121444.1e7253bf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111103103218.58F8D106566C@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20111103103218.58F8D106566C@hub.freebsd.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:14:47 -0000 On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:32:16 +0000 (GMT), Thomas Mueller wrote: > What software, base or ports, is used to burn a CD or DVD on > a SATA drive, /dev/cd0 ? >=20 > Would burncd be appropriate, or do I need cdrtools? Or cdrkit? >=20 > This is on FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 amd64. I can imagine that in 9.0 where acd is obsoleted by cd, burncd will either be rewritten, or be useless. In that case, using tools that work with "old-fashioned" and "now modern" cd should work fine. > I built and installed sysutils/cdrtools when there was a > thread on burncd and SATA, but cdrecord can't see anything > (running "cdrecord -scanbus"): >=20 >=20 > cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl failed. Cann= ot open or use SCSI driver. > cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. > cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=3Dhelp'. > Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd9.0) Copyright (C)= 1995-2010 J=F6rg Schilling >=20 >=20 > Running "cdrecord dev=3Dhelp" or "cdrecord dev=3DHELP:" did no better. Do you have permissions set properly? Maybe it still tries to access per ATAPICAM, which may be non-working just like acd - just a wild guess, I'm not using 9-RC here so I can't be more specific. > I had a similar problem on the older computer (i386 with ATA, > not SATA) in NetBSD, but cdrecord ran well in Linux. CD-RW > drive there is ATAPI. I've been using cdrecord and cdrdao now since burncd stopped working for me somewhere in v5. For DVDs, growisofs should work. While cdrecord and cdrdao address th "SCSI device" by n:n:n, growisofs uses /dev/cdN. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 11:57:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B15106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD388FC16 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwp14 with SMTP id 14so1777469wwp.31 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 04:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.229.165 with SMTP id h37mr6164614weq.45.1320321460874; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 04:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l20sm9758331wbo.6.2011.11.03.04.57.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 04:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB281B2.7020204@my.gd> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:57:38 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EB247E7.1010708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4EB2662A.2010609@my.gd> <4EB26E7D.3020105@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EB26E7D.3020105@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DNS config help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:57:42 -0000 On 11/3/11 11:35 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 03/11/2011 10:00, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> Actually, using a view that matches only the VPN's IP range would do the >> trick easily and efficiently. > > Views are a way of giving a different answer depending on who is asking > the question -- how does that help the OP when he's always querying from > within his 10.0.0.0/8 network? He's the client connecting to the VPN here. > I didn't understand his problem like that, my bad. I remember hearing at work that dnsmasq could do that, perhaps with a little bit of scripting. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 13:18:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FD5106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonschipp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BB38FC0A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:18:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so2258718faa.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:18:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=D+pawsLXy1yDPrbHjuSihayl1mqpNJMJyfNzJ+BbYrg=; b=g8JXkLU7gerKeTqr2R0LuUA8et9tVWvbnUfqsofDG4LzXpmxgvFUCS0KAk6lL3HjlO hlJQrzgGPKWir8gacONuceJ+ZSZR1ChAmzlc9gVABG85yi6Mk8huS1DnO8qA6IAqAR88 TArcY/xBMqu1W0MQ0wt0Jz+W3+SWEnJtnLhRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.88.150 with SMTP id a22mr12729123fam.1.1320326286598; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.74 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 06:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:18:06 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jon Schipp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:18:08 -0000 Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 RELEASE)? In vain of 'free' in Linux. I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone has a "cleaner" option. I was always curious. Thanks Jon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 13:25:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3B51065674 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdlisten@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EFA8FC1F for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so1492372bkb.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:25:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; bh=aKRj+3MbyKMczWI7kwS88+yzqCJcgNciy0i+1+lL5tQ=; b=F69hPQ3eD770NhhpNuvn9PCRQHrFSRx/K1X5o6AovLWuNtayY0W/YhjqPnzJA+U+9Z 1nCWk47nAh1wl/1A1Cg0QCJISfUZ+ppvG+nSKlvr6AxF9s6kAOJkxxlElbJYSWE71u6T UZScPS+/Tg98hhvw1My7jCAo2sq4iBPPStj8U= Received: by 10.223.63.206 with SMTP id c14mr16230208fai.3.1320326561834; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] ([89.47.83.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w7sm12099706fab.6.2011.11.03.06.22.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB2959F.4090909@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:22:39 +0200 From: Rares Aioanei User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20111010 Icedove/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Fwd: i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:25:35 -0000 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:50:05 GMT Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-i386@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:47:53 GMT From: Mahmoud Dadah To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org >Number: 162270 >Category: i386 >Synopsis: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-i386 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 03 12:50:05 UTC 2011 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mahmoud Dadah >Release: 7.4 >Organization: ASR-IT.COM >Environment: >Description: Hello I need install freebsd 7.2 VIA : SSH or sysinstall and I need you to install it Pls and I have now v7.4 The accsess details of the server IP : 176.9.1.125 User : root Password : asr2011 port : 22 Thank you >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: _______________________________________________ freebsd-i386@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-i386 To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-i386-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Is this the bug report of the day or what? :P From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 13:41:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8393A106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mathengejr@aim.com) Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415228FC0A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.68]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pA3DVFQe000364 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:31:15 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.9] (27-33-68-154.static.tpgi.com.au [27.33.68.154]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id B9670E000098 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4EB29781.9000405@aim.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 00:30:41 +1100 From: David Kinyua User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20111010 Icedove/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EB2959F.4090909@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EB2959F.4090909@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1320327074; bh=QUDCP4fqcb3E4B+HDDt8NLWnCsXVi29gF8htvt+cJuw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ynZEOimemo1GCONRzIboSWPaMN7pkBxyK0FKIixiWuCPuoCq0fP6Bk395UFVO6w34 8JkJYJZR6ziFnRcWIjbg0OFF7IywDy1YIsFSUcmlCjvy+X+GDhqP6v8pYgjmBwZFgH wo4xnhchNA9oMMT8UYicOkidQzFW6p0yrQXZTYyk= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:514323424:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29444eb297a14881 X-AOL-IP: 27.33.68.154 Subject: Re: Fwd: i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:41:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/11 00:22, Rares Aioanei wrote: > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual > Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:50:05 GMT > Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) > Resent-To: freebsd-i386@FreeBSD.org > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:47:53 GMT > From: Mahmoud Dadah > To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org > > > >> Number: 162270 >> Category: i386 >> Synopsis: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual >> Confidential: no >> Severity: non-critical >> Priority: high >> Responsible: freebsd-i386 >> State: open >> Quarter: >> Keywords: >> Date-Required: >> Class: sw-bug >> Submitter-Id: current-users >> Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 03 12:50:05 UTC 2011 >> Closed-Date: >> Last-Modified: >> Originator: Mahmoud Dadah >> Release: 7.4 >> Organization: > ASR-IT.COM >> Environment: >> Description: > Hello > > I need install freebsd 7.2 VIA : SSH or sysinstall > > and I need you to install it Pls > > and I have now v7.4 > > The accsess details of the server > > IP : 176.9.1.125 > User : root > Password : asr2011 > port : 22 > > Thank you >> How-To-Repeat: > >> Fix: > > >> Release-Note: >> Audit-Trail: >> Unformatted: > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-i386@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-i386 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-i386-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Is this the bug report of the day or what? :P > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I thought what was being queried was a manual install but then I read on. Bug report report of the day in deed. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOspeAAAoJEHhm85pbqJ26/4EH/2j2I2gcXIKgP7PiVpH4n2/b 71nNfj5nL9kWdFxvVj0IYcOWLTPmOPlXG3EK+6QhlGNx6+3AXOasF9HJAYQoeRuS 0+kxFRYc4fbl//5CPViCh4s+PBKZg/6NofdGrSJhVX64ZqyQQHAYFh68Ci+gWJ/E cFLgyKpbC5ni2jpL47wm5cykbeKrsHDRfJcBVNvCx305shaIT+HtxdmpTds59/mr pp0mT5YQuQPV1jQHP915QcwVUzVhBarba+NwTLAMnMShmVoz2sG7tYe9a9AjSaH7 tZScFq2KcNMmqWHkmgds+vhQvhM+gkdz9bs0Oaf//WcVTMBPQW5apREcAvJRe14= =paOH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 13:44:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424A21065670 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from myself@rdtan.net) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C0B8FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so699127qyk.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.194.231 with SMTP id hz7mr4459216igc.7.1320327848947; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zion.local ([203.82.80.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j1sm4588777igq.2.2011.11.03.06.44.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB29A9F.10708@rdtan.net> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:43:59 +0800 From: Edward User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Schipp References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:44:10 -0000 On 11/3/11 9:18 PM, Jon Schipp wrote: > Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 > RELEASE)? Hi Jon, Check out the port /usr/ports/sysutils/sysinfo . HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 13:44:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3351065680 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587E58FC0A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:44:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so1689375wyg.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.198.77 with SMTP id en13mr11825269wbb.28.1320327884848; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id et20sm10250325wbb.15.2011.11.03.06.44.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB29ACA.6040500@my.gd> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:44:42 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EB2959F.4090909@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EB2959F.4090909@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Fwd: i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:44:47 -0000 On 11/3/11 2:22 PM, Rares Aioanei wrote: > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: i386/162270: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual > Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:50:05 GMT > Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) > Resent-To: freebsd-i386@FreeBSD.org > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:47:53 GMT > From: Mahmoud Dadah > To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org > > > >> Number: 162270 >> Category: i386 >> Synopsis: I need to install freebsd 7.4 manual >> Confidential: no >> Severity: non-critical >> Priority: high >> Responsible: freebsd-i386 >> State: open >> Quarter: >> Keywords: >> Date-Required: >> Class: sw-bug >> Submitter-Id: current-users >> Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 03 12:50:05 UTC 2011 >> Closed-Date: >> Last-Modified: >> Originator: Mahmoud Dadah >> Release: 7.4 >> Organization: > ASR-IT.COM >> Environment: >> Description: > Hello > > I need install freebsd 7.2 VIA : SSH or sysinstall > > and I need you to install it Pls > > and I have now v7.4 > > The accsess details of the server > > IP : 176.9.1.125 > User : root > Password : asr2011 > port : 22 > > Thank you >> How-To-Repeat: > >> Fix: > Posting in a legendary thread. Also: freebsd# w 2:43PM up 1:26, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT root p0 82.205.103.21 1:18PM 22 sysinstall root p1 83.167.62.196 2:43PM - w sigh... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 14:06:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1BC1065677 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonschipp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830C38FC20 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so2332826faa.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 07:06:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9yo3WDaLBN4Q+Qs1SKQ5yUrz80UMvNDxsP365DgIbl8=; b=lfPaor/FI28prME+uY7voxuoucWoB+52L8CCtkxeZiHG9mCfDHXA49UmAS3h4km871 i4MOyc4b4kyBt0h6kccEoBKZTTakxckA2crVauNi01diuuGtqhjQjD+vnHRpaEQWv395 x2oAfiQsIHeNJFAmxZtgwybeiI6nywR0Ia3QA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.88.150 with SMTP id a22mr13000301fam.1.1320329179354; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 07:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.74 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:06:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EB2965F.1030809@gmail.com> References: <4EB2965F.1030809@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:06:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jon Schipp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:06:21 -0000 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Rares Aioanei wrote: > On 11/03/2011 03:18 PM, Jon Schipp wrote: > >> Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 >> RELEASE)? >> In vain of 'free' in Linux. >> >> I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone >> has a "cleaner" option. >> I was always curious. >> >> Thanks >> Jon >> ______________________________**_________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " >> >> top? > Crap, I forgot mention that it needs to be non-interactive, it will be for e-mail alerts. So that rules out top as for as I know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 14:17:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBBD1065673 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from nm1-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm1-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 888E48FC24 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 14:17:58 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.68] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 14:17:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 14:17:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1320329878; bh=f7dgERX5GlcLasiEWiRu2pcJS+k/mkKQqZwvM3gyGI4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=b4iIH6hTc8T8pv4cAyhRq8X7dylpFa+Xf4pdiPlZ3G8uffVGEXGY/4u2iQG2U/8exlJOmxGos+y+g1kw2i4i+P9a0xREnUbSTKyqzIB4alboa9q7+eNy+7VGiHTtWBYq8aSDG05LDQ9mzhT9VN3HRD8tV8QQ+g06jA5b6Xe2kuo= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 19406.93757.bm@smtp105.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: TXH9QlQVM1mCwxDbQ_gq_TweWCPI9XoMi3l35q3ofxw9DtF oXhX5ERNjycwVpW_i0cgMAvUfLzVSdM2nl2rF1qIY7yETQlTjrlvnORMIuha TZKd8x.arcTs7TgJdVVg7C_ALOx.DsqMxZxAQq9RyzSVCwaD2yxZangNTthR lkN5x.AA2_a1jQP3tFa4FWDGjOXgWofvRpquTgW6TWcZkPUfxh8ykRQGAU9. xo.xlMRjYZHRfSCa_JZY9UZg.o_WX6LBxUpxzzxaIZ1X8DHs3JUX0hXib7BA DzHJBO2Lf.5vB.zbw4CrW57fmBXKRjWm9AOkF2j8NQ8jrKHsxbSGb3ldqCWS R.FE2Hsy7uC3w79HzGTCG7z1GpJxh9WmmegpPap1waVst7KjeepgdvIQLcIF vZC48AVYvCJgCSlgmVPH5CBCdZfc- X-Yahoo-SMTP: N82WFx6swBBjwcHWPFR2CGt6udzA8RPrA.xm0enFFXaK2g-- Received: from napoleon (mike.jeays@99.224.68.20 with login) by smtp105.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Nov 2011 07:17:57 -0700 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:17:57 -0400 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111103101757.095c5158@napoleon> In-Reply-To: References: <4EB2965F.1030809@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:17:59 -0000 On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:06:19 -0400 Jon Schipp wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Rares Aioanei wrote: > > > On 11/03/2011 03:18 PM, Jon Schipp wrote: > > > >> Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 > >> RELEASE)? > >> In vain of 'free' in Linux. > >> > >> I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone > >> has a "cleaner" option. > >> I was always curious. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Jon > >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > >> > >> top? > > > > Crap, I forgot mention that it needs to be non-interactive, it will be for > e-mail alerts. > > So that rules out top as for as I know. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" "top -n 1" followed by grep or awk might do what you want. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 14:47:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FD71065679 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071EB8FC16 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-96-236-238-95.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [96.236.238.95]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8594FDFA7E for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EF265C5C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:47:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:47:13 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20111103104713.7746a954.web@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: postfix INST_BASE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:47:22 -0000 Could you comment on the pros and cons of using INST_BASE=on in postfix on a production server? -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 15:23:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F026106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9FF8FC19 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qadz32 with SMTP id z32so1700381qad.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:23:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.197.227 with SMTP id ix3mr4941879igc.51.1320333826948; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.33.68 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:23:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111103104713.7746a954.web@3dresearch.com> References: <20111103104713.7746a954.web@3dresearch.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:23:46 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lgb38PjDcEbXo99hH-PD62L-OAw Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Janos Dohanics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: postfix INST_BASE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:23:49 -0000 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Janos Dohanics wrote: > Could you comment on the pros and cons of using INST_BASE=on in postfix > on a production server? > Great question! I know there has been some discussion to be able to choose your base MTA upon install but I don't know how far this has gone. I don't use that option but rather install it as a regular port, register it in mailer.conf when it asks you to and then do this in your rc.conf sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" postfix_enable="YES" I haven't used the INST_BASE option out of fear that it might give me trouble on building world and upgrading. Also a new approach I'm taking is using EzJail for "service jails" so use a pure MTA jail and use the base sendmail as a relay to that. For the time being I'm using posfix on the base system to relay but in the future I plan to do it with the native sendmail and only use postfix on the MTA service jail. -- Alejandro Imass > -- > Janos Dohanics > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 15:34:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20ECE1065674 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:34:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39E58FC14 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38117 invoked by uid 0); 3 Nov 2011 15:08:10 -0000 Received: from smtp.bway.net (216.220.96.25) by xena.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 3 Nov 2011 15:08:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 38111 invoked by uid 90); 3 Nov 2011 15:08:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gecko3.bs.net) (216.220.115.73) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 3 Nov 2011 15:08:10 -0000 From: mrkvrg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:08:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p1; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201111031108.08579.mrkvrg@acm.org> Subject: Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mrkvrg@acm.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:34:52 -0000 Hello Jon, Perhaps the port sysutils/freecolor. Cheers ... Mark >Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 >RELEASE)? >In vain of 'free' in Linux. >I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone >has a "cleaner" option. >I was always curious. >Thanks >Jon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 15:42:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5941065674 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C863A8FC1A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2] (may be forged)) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04791 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:42:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201111031542.JAA04791@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:42:18 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Timing of FreeBSD 9.0-RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:42:28 -0000 I've been working with FreeBSD 9.0-RC1, and it's good but still has a few rough edges. I understand that since RC1, llvm and Clang have been updated and can now successfully compile the world (an un-GNUed toolchain at last!) and that some disk bugs have been fixed. Is there an ETA for RC2? Need to build servers, and since freebsd-update can't do binary updates between release candidates I'd like a version that has the latest fixes. --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 15:55:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48A51065674 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7B18FC13 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C8CA716E2 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:55:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5522 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2011 15:55:25 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 2987, pid: 8129, t: 0.1809s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Nov 2011 15:55:24 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C0B722E0EA; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:55:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Jon Schipp References: <4EB2965F.1030809@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:55:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Jon Schipp's message of "Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:06:19 -0400") Message-ID: <44sjm542vo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:55:26 -0000 Jon Schipp writes: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Rares Aioanei wrote: > >> On 11/03/2011 03:18 PM, Jon Schipp wrote: >> >>> Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 >>> RELEASE)? >>> In vain of 'free' in Linux. >>> >>> I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if anyone >>> has a "cleaner" option. >>> I was always curious. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Jon >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " >>> >>> top? >> > > Crap, I forgot mention that it needs to be non-interactive, it will be for > e-mail alerts. > > So that rules out top as for as I know. No, you could script it out of top(1), but I'm going to guess that you're trying to be warned when the system is close to running out of memory. That is silly -- you paid for the memory; why would you *want* it to sit around doing nothing? Also note that the definition of "free" is somewhat complicated. Maybe if you described the actual problem you want to solve, we could suggest a more appropriate answer. A literal answer to your question might be: top -d 1|grep '^Mem:'|cut -d ',' -f 6 assuming the format of the line of top doesn't change. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:02:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C98106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rockstar01@y7mail.com) Received: from nm16-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm16-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB6E48FC12 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 15:49:17 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.244] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 15:49:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 15:49:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 500155.78308.bm@omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 50752 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Nov 2011 15:49:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=y7mail.com; s=s1024; t=1320335357; bh=MJngHEOeMxCXQHKR+GTeiOMXHgwS161iDBv+3e5pTNs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QRt3XGxQpQuVeUIXijXEGbvypbQO/KuIQmjiNJbCRd6yRsjwyBNfa5C5rcIpkC1cRQFD1IoGyxriN/rwEzZ/W+rI0U95m1nBG5cnovq9RACJ4VmO378REUR0v1EKJ8HON12y0qphP0H/KHsx0v0eDHPvq0oDSSS998B1rjtB3Vc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=y7mail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qpR3VcMSQwvq9iLHEY06FCw73Ov5Nf+iajRhnw4SeHqjQkZxLkNG2r8Kk9c9Mur5xKq8X21pkXs0RPQoqjla5rYo+dnd/WIfMJMHjXYFga4JlTkRtkSUpEIjHdVWqQ+mb8q5mtf4qLMN9ocmPmRwPlWwq0sTeqgTaRGx2vlcogc=; X-YMail-OSG: GkCqi5QVM1kvs_4.POaYPHm3.T5OgWNnTIhlWQbdxd9M12h e7E0LV3Vb Received: from [202.213.143.30] by web122206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:49:16 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.11 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 Message-ID: <1320335356.50710.YahooMailClassic@web122206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:49:16 -0700 (PDT) From: masayoshi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: freebsd-update (custom kernel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:02:35 -0000 I would like to know about freebsd-update command. It is rumoured that freebsd-update command does not work well with custom k= ernel. First question is the following : > su - #freebsd-update fetch #freebsd-update install Does this command work well? The answer is ..... [A].Always work, [B]Depend on my computer. Second question is ... For example,if I upgrade from FreeBSD 7.4 to 8.2 by freebsd-update command. Can I upgrade without failure? I would like to know only "success rate"? The answer is .... [A].about 100%, [B].about 80%,[C].about 75%,[D] less than 50% Thanks in advance. --- Inexperienced FreeBSD user: Level 1 pow 1, spd 1, vit 1,int 1,luck 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:12:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D3D106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonschipp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9298FC18 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so2540082faa.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KxednTRhxZaCykY6T4gWlrmx0q16I0OhzhbA1cJJ4N0=; b=nIZyJ83STKdF0Se4Ljb7yGy3NAWdfTPZoYiPc73jJSzR3dzTitOLurttE8+pd0Caw3 lswk3hs93l8HieiXNOteYEa/5rrO/cSSa2BKqPLlUHZ6O9UVfGVTGfv6G01FCLVvS+NJ /VyrXvp7ihXu5q8xPJlkxNPzgMkAtyLlGv+wM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.91.68 with SMTP id l4mr17384342fam.16.1320336730135; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.74 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:12:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201111031535.pA3FZnE0018328@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201111031535.pA3FZnE0018328@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:12:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jon Schipp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:12:11 -0000 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 08:17:46 2011 > > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:18:06 -0400 > > From: Jon Schipp > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux > > > > Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 > > RELEASE)? > > In vain of 'free' in Linux. > > Having *NO* idea what linux 'free' does, your question is hard to answer. > > > > I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if > anyone > > has a "cleaner" option. > > I was always curious. > > If you're just looking for the amount of 'free' memory, the 3rd field of > the third line of the output of vmstat(8) has that value. > > I'm under the impression that virtual memory and physical memory usage are very different. e.g. vmstat and top report very different memory values. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:13:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7401065673 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC67C8FC1A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:13:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwp14 with SMTP id 14so2204178wwp.31 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:13:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.202.140 with SMTP id fe12mr12537061wbb.27.1320336778874; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:12:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1320335356.50710.YahooMailClassic@web122206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1320335356.50710.YahooMailClassic@web122206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:12:58 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: masayoshi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:13:03 -0000 It will work fine - it won't attempt to update the kernel. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:49 AM, masayoshi wrote: > I would like to know about freebsd-update command. > It is rumoured that freebsd-update command does not work well with custom kernel. > First question is the following : > >> su - > #freebsd-update fetch > #freebsd-update install > > Does this command work well? > > The answer is ..... > [A].Always work, [B]Depend on my computer. > > > Second question is ... > For example,if I upgrade from FreeBSD 7.4 to 8.2 by freebsd-update command. > Can I upgrade without failure? > I would like to know only "success rate"? > > The answer is .... > [A].about 100%, [B].about 80%,[C].about 75%,[D] less than 50% > > Thanks in advance. > > --- > Inexperienced FreeBSD user: Level 1 > pow 1, spd 1, vit 1,int 1,luck 1 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:13:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399601065781 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F548FC26 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB256ED3ED; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:13:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=e-e.com; h= user-agent:organization:in-reply-to:content-disposition :content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:subject:from:from:date:date:received:received:received; s=ee; t=1320336822; x=1322151222; bh=gM0IqcIQ8znJ5c4BEv6xfhpKge QlIFNZOnbTS6+rOcE=; b=Muvhk6i5nZbs7+imFuI15IoZ+R0KM3iQH2RffK6/Qc Pnk7W92nMZ5Lr6bUB7WurqfQiZ65GRcBcHwxM783K9lam1KYOxQSUjXP4Hhf3GaX jG1SSR+ZJGhfYaEsfaFtyjgwnfSxWLiEMGYyjTXMYPHbHpZXVyg3vKxS6A4ULT+J Q= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5SVhRI8ETIcE; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.103.122]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B6B26ED3E4; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (nullmailer pid 59794 invoked by uid 1001); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:13:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:13:40 -0700 From: Jason Helfman To: masayoshi Message-ID: <20111103161340.GC25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <1320335356.50710.YahooMailClassic@web122206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1320335356.50710.YahooMailClassic@web122206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE Organization: Experts-Exchange, LLC. http://www.experts-exchange.com X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:13:43 -0000 On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 08:49:16AM -0700, masayoshi thus spake: >I would like to know about freebsd-update command. >It is rumoured that freebsd-update command does not work well with custom kernel. >First question is the following : > >> su - >#freebsd-update fetch >#freebsd-update install > >Does this command work well? > >The answer is ..... >[A].Always work, [B]Depend on my computer. > > >Second question is ... >For example,if I upgrade from FreeBSD 7.4 to 8.2 by freebsd-update command. >Can I upgrade without failure? >I would like to know only "success rate"? > >The answer is .... >[A].about 100%, [B].about 80%,[C].about 75%,[D] less than 50% > >Thanks in advance. > I does work fine with a custom kernel, as long as you are running and maintaining the actual update server that distributes. 1. Always work 2. Can never account for 100 percent... I've not run into a problem, though. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-update-server/ -jgh -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:19:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B28C106567C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC49C8FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so1921346wyg.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:19:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.14.29 with SMTP id c29mr3367660wec.13.1320337169277; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:19:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111103161340.GC25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <1320335356.50710.YahooMailClassic@web122206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20111103161340.GC25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:19:29 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Jason Helfman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: masayoshi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:19:31 -0000 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Jason Helfman wrote: > I does work fine with a custom kernel, as long as you are running and > maintaining the actual update server that distributes. I don't think that's relevant. It works fine with the public servers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:22:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5AA106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonschipp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0ABB8FC12 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so2554384faa.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:22:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RGEdkJoHBwRWC7QxD51lG08CHn0tnrZwfYOcyCiKHJE=; b=NRgmERwv4RvNFil6a8sy6viOAjl/Ebij6bhiJLIojvjAAeHI1rtTJj8drO2t++a86n sl4gKrfziQL2nL0yptWFwhDp/ZYuj2Y+MuppnaalZ9TgVEY8bBVVBhSoANAwuuXpzds7 6PdYpLZdlSsXWqoGqYf3ZQiMe9Pb0lNDY4WEY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.81.196 with SMTP id y4mr17530173fak.6.1320337340578; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.74 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:22:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44sjm542vo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <4EB2965F.1030809@gmail.com> <44sjm542vo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:22:20 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jon Schipp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:22:22 -0000 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Lowell Gilbert < freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: > Jon Schipp writes: > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Rares Aioanei > wrote: > > > >> On 11/03/2011 03:18 PM, Jon Schipp wrote: > >> > >>> Is there a program to check physical memory usage in FreeBSD(using 8.2 > >>> RELEASE)? > >>> In vain of 'free' in Linux. > >>> > >>> I know you can check the values with sysctl, I was just checking if > anyone > >>> has a "cleaner" option. > >>> I was always curious. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Jon > >>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions< > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions> > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > >>> > >>> top? > >> > > > > Crap, I forgot mention that it needs to be non-interactive, it will be > for > > e-mail alerts. > > > > So that rules out top as for as I know. > > No, you could script it out of top(1), but I'm going to guess that > you're trying to be warned when the system is close to running out of > memory. That is silly -- you paid for the memory; why would you *want* > it to sit around doing nothing? > While this isn't my intention... I'm curious: You wouldn't want to know when your machine has reached periods of high memory utilization? Occurrence/frequency information seems pretty valuable. More importantly, at specific times, noticing patterns, use during/after business hours If you didn't want to use memory, it wouldn't be purchased. I don't think keeping track of the utility of your purchases is silly. Also note that the definition of "free" is somewhat complicated. > > Maybe if you described the actual problem you want to solve, we could > suggest a more appropriate answer. > > A literal answer to your question might be: > top -d 1|grep '^Mem:'|cut -d ',' -f 6 > assuming the format of the line of top doesn't change. > That does the trick. I didn't think it was possible to grab data from interactive programs without throwing in some "garbage". Should've tested. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:23:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DE6106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160148FC1D for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so2555842faa.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:23:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xy56R8/fsMJE4hWdiLKcQ4xREPA1JrxRDCjXY315q30=; b=Bw8X0UU0NDCtoFPSJxd8TsvM8dgZ+tJnCi3cDQ4QgWunS3cH+wlELVdIh5HD5buNQI c7CnjyhTix+y2PUOYqboI9/OQtta+TfVe1Dh/aiJmnTRJDPDRCDeoFaYiKcyOAh5P8zu jsQOcUj8uIoxN/6xiT3DXfpDzoQwQe3YOtfy0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.88.150 with SMTP id a22mr13741523fam.1.1320337269835; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.72 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:21:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201111031535.pA3FZnE0018328@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:21:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Jon Schipp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:23:19 -0000 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jon Schipp wrote: > I'm under the impression that virtual memory and physical memory usage are > very different. > > e.g. vmstat and top report very different memory values. > If I assume this is an XY problem, and your true goal is find out what memory pressure a system is under then my answer would be to track the percent of swap used. Free memory is a useful utility on Windows XP, not so much on FreeBSD. So to answer your question in another way, there is a reason "free" doesn't exist on FreeBSD. It's not very meaningful. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:26:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1284106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EDB8FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6226ED3DD; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:26:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=e-e.com; h= user-agent:organization:in-reply-to:content-disposition :content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:subject:from:from:date:date:received:received:received; s=ee; t=1320337617; x=1322152017; bh=GlH2JvzB/wu6uqfUy6cE2n9hlX /xCRTV3tWBUJfRDHY=; b=Pj5Sfv5Yq17/GRbK6TrxB7JQAvxGjdEnpxpH6Od5bs 6aEOvJ6Xxuq7Kz+tVdiKsmHGGvt7XkNcE0WW1yG870QIxZRH+BJnX7oX6hL8JgP7 boJpoR6WD2SsOosWfSz1elaaw2g+ugb/HzW0MX+CQ9DqffilRadTAfPPJ1O0L5b1 I= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dUXKngfVB1g5; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.103.122]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B2FA6ED35E; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (nullmailer pid 60139 invoked by uid 1001); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:26:54 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:26:54 -0700 From: Jason Helfman To: Michael Sierchio Message-ID: <20111103162654.GD25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <1320335356.50710.YahooMailClassic@web122206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20111103161340.GC25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE Organization: Experts-Exchange, LLC. http://www.experts-exchange.com X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: masayoshi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:26:58 -0000 On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 09:19:29AM -0700, Michael Sierchio thus spake: >On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Jason Helfman wrote: > >> I does work fine with a custom kernel, as long as you are running and >> maintaining the actual update server that distributes. > >I don't think that's relevant. It works fine with the public servers. > I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called CUSTOM, it won't work. And if you run a custom kernel called GENERIC, the moment you upgrade, you custom kernel is no longer custom. All of this aside, I would be interested in hearing how you are able to avoid non-custom updates to your custom kernel when the kernel or os patches are distributed by the update servers. -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:42:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12941065673 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB018FC17 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so1953126wyg.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:42:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.202.70 with SMTP id fd6mr12938950wbb.27.1320338532127; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:42:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111103162654.GD25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <1320335356.50710.YahooMailClassic@web122206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20111103161340.GC25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> <20111103162654.GD25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:42:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Jason Helfman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: masayoshi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:42:13 -0000 This is simply not the case. freebsd-update works on the basis of cryptographic hashes on the binaries. It is, after all, a binary update program. If it detects a custom kernel, it will not update the kernel, but updates userland programs. It doesn't *care* what your kernel config name is, it really doesn't matter. Kernel update becomes a manual operation, which requires fetching sources from the SECURITY branch. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Jason Helfman wrote: >> > I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called CUSTOM, it won't work. And if > you run a custom kernel called GENERIC, the moment you upgrade, you custo= m > kernel is no longer custom. > > All of this aside, I would be interested in hearing how you are able to > avoid non-custom updates to your custom kernel when the kernel or os patc= hes > are distributed by the update servers. > > > -- > Jason Helfman > System Administrator > experts-exchange.com > http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html > E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD =A04342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:42:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859A21065678 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) Received: from nm13.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm13.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECDC38FC25 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.183.181] by nm13.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 16:42:51 -0000 Received: from [77.238.184.70] by tm12.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 16:42:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 16:42:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1320338571; bh=2L5tiTmhZYUMbL8fAK1Omo318e6tOaOOcESz2FEbykU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:In-Reply-To:References:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; b=koLyLbTvEEI2mHTAEduFiLYrAGQRrGKeY5L31zEcOIuTBH3Jo2+/8sYsrd+BWOkUUp01qtPrOd/nk3uV72+Q7BLzqezh8XfNY0x7zaZ+2LKV84JAar/S5KHbju8gVb/2w7iISfFd22yrmFaR32uiaTqY+LDij3oVqz7eBIhDZbg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 675911.46782.bm@smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: I.u5dS0VM1kcZnw1Q8HcfG3WhRP_TcSbrM7HOvGm7xFupdH OiB2lf112ZEJGBBHyrcSR_X6Q28ij52AgY2UL0hImFLQ.9Be.6eRW4KOwveV zoc5HaAPL2zpIQjAkBJow1MHsDT2YtTQ6IYZ8x8cd.1YfdUHNdIm4Hmxzk18 Cilr8dyRaaJxAO3PC8AA6a8VCoY842H1yjF6a9mhvi2Q1kFgL15MoxoAtdRM Bm_WDoJjb9PD2lS009KLdHd.zcK6bZJAojttW4n1NQ4298vJPU6rQxxOOtM_ dICaKs4VetkdO_ovq4p4Vsbg8NYSqeKGsB74484SE7jvCb3NVuMklJRUgH4n wJMmL5eJgcig4ylrkTUnanMEPfECYZfpiOFBoEI02t60.SiO2olBZMFcPFJ0 Va31xPb5Z3vPi4qaaQy9awHWrwpkcjRJe7d3WZg6p3Vvw6F7FXeXKXaEs8wC z1bqpiVP4LlzodBY8SKWZFZIDbhmKWJZ29Jef7RwYtEWIDyr8MgLbpN.ckRl QOqv8sFtV X-Yahoo-SMTP: S65s63SswBDjU54Gjqw2GSWlZmfgiEU_X3tN1_9u Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (axelbsd@209.85.161.182 with plain) by smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Nov 2011 16:42:51 +0000 GMT Received: by ggnk3 with SMTP id k3so107786ggn.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.132.10 with SMTP id b10mr9556052ict.18.1320338570241; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:42:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.223.1 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:42:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111103162654.GD25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <1320335356.50710.YahooMailClassic@web122206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20111103161340.GC25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> <20111103162654.GD25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> From: Alexandre Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:42:29 +0100 Message-ID: To: Jason Helfman , Michael Sierchio , masayoshi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:42:53 -0000 > > > I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called CUSTOM, it won't work. And if > you run a custom kernel called GENERIC, the moment you upgrade, you custom > kernel is no longer custom. > > All of this aside, I would be interested in hearing how you are able to > avoid non-custom updates to your custom kernel when the kernel or os > patches > are distributed by the update servers. > Hi, The freebsd-update tool works fine with GENERIC and CUSTOM kernels. In fact, GENERIC kernel is upgraded during the upgrade step. With a custom kernel, you just have to rebuild it. This tool update by default the source code, the entire base system, and the kernel. Please read the handbook : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:44:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C491065672 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF42D8FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C4CFFE805C4; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:44:48 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20111103164448.GA26331@thought.org> References: <20111103000838.GA16121@thought.org> <20111103043800.a8674ee2.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111103043800.a8674ee2.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Anything like mkmf for foo linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:44:50 -0000 On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 04:38:00AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:38:00 +0100 > From: Polytropon > Subject: Re: Anything like mkmf for foo linux? > To: Gary Kline > Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List > X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) > > On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:08:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > fwiw,i HAVE PORTED A FEW THINGS ACROSS. dunno what id do w/out the > > src!! > > Keep the mkmf source -- seems that is has been removed > from the ports tree. > > Port: mkmf-4.11 > Path: /usr/ports/devel/mkmf > Info: Creates program and library makefiles for the make(1) command > Maint: ports@FreeBSD.org > Moved: > Date: 2011-08-01 > Reason: Has expired: Looks like an abandonware, no more public distfile > > Planned obsolescence in action? :-) > > Wow! dunno what i would do without a tool like this. it uses three templates for C/C++, fortran, and pascal[?]. builds neat auto makefiles that seem to work anywhere. i.e.: bsd and linux. probly all nixes. well, i'll spend a few hours for the weekends ahead and port to ubuntu. --note that i do not know how to add anything to the linux packages and wont even try. tx, polyt, appreciate it.... > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:48:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2541065672 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AB98FC13 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEF2A700D5 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25837 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2011 16:48:46 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 20660, pid: 9070, t: 0.1695s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13513 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Nov 2011 16:48:46 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id F08BB2E0EA; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:48:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Jon Schipp References: <4EB2965F.1030809@gmail.com> <44sjm542vo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:48:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Jon Schipp's message of "Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:22:20 -0400") Message-ID: <44k47h40eq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Check Memory Usage, program like 'free' in Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:48:48 -0000 Jon Schipp writes: > You wouldn't want to know when your machine has reached periods of high > memory utilization? No, I want to know when my machine would perform better if it had more memory. Keeping memory in use when it otherwise would be "free" means I get *better* performance. > Occurrence/frequency information seems pretty valuable. > More importantly, at specific times, noticing patterns, use during/after > business hours > > If you didn't want to use memory, it wouldn't be purchased. I don't think > keeping track of the utility of > your purchases is silly. That makes sense, but the amount of "free" memory does not tell you any of what you're saying you want to track. Please start by reading the FAQ question titled "Why does top show very little free memory even when I have very few programs running?". > That does the trick. I didn't think it was possible to grab data from > interactive programs without throwing in some "garbage". Technically, top(1) isn't an interactive program at all if you send its output to a pipe. It still could use terminal features, but it doesn't. This is described within the first 25 lines of its manual. In fact, I notice that the '-d 1' option (that I put in my suggestion) is redundant. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 16:58:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E041065675 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0748FC12 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CE86ED46E; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:58:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=e-e.com; h= user-agent:organization:in-reply-to:content-disposition :content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:subject:from:from:date:date:received:received:received; s=ee; t=1320339482; x=1322153882; bh=dIG1p1cLrj8VqRx28u3oOOZg74 DuLxecS069+U2aCuA=; b=HCqehD73LGgzyStLoXUiuS0TQ9KST4CqWWNaXNpMML s7mpcUQJvQXqEYNNAuo7UVpg23KaR6/AEDP6Oa7JPrF1QfBeFySYzPUAiKi730Hw GsXfEhhccGBcrnuUOo34q1Y2G9eBk2fidzL5QKPEwwbvFcKVhCntv1r9/8tGgZN1 c= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2oqR7zZc4wwF; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.103.122]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C6486ED46C; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (nullmailer pid 60882 invoked by uid 1001); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:57:59 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:57:59 -0700 From: Jason Helfman To: Michael Sierchio Message-ID: <20111103165759.GE25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <1320335356.50710.YahooMailClassic@web122206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20111103161340.GC25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> <20111103162654.GD25517@eggman.experts-exchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE Organization: Experts-Exchange, LLC. http://www.experts-exchange.com X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: masayoshi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:58:03 -0000 On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 09:42:12AM -0700, Michael Sierchio thus spake: >This is simply not the case. freebsd-update works on the basis of >cryptographic hashes on the binaries. It is, after all, a binary >update program. If it detects a custom kernel, it will not update the >kernel, but updates userland programs. It doesn't *care* what your >kernel config name is, it really doesn't matter. > >Kernel update becomes a manual operation, which requires fetching >sources from the SECURITY branch. > I'm not disagreeing with you, and I know what it does. I happen to run a slew of update servers myself, however if you run your own update server based on your own signatures, it will patch your custom kernel and distribute it, as well. I didn't know it would skip it, though, with the main update servers. Interesting. -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 17:04:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA256106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EE58FC17 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwp14 with SMTP id 14so2285950wwp.31 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:04:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=x3hIqMt1J5NxNR2QUhAqYUojv/TRX2HW8I+vBI4hBv8=; b=fYIENQZZImLnjm/2GoN8/PNImk66mr9SSgIEbgJ2G4zoRwnocGoFquwX+clT4kYmol zELyvJSOc8MB9KqNoWPXXP/Wkh5eTpeYM3EAeUDcIaaThJWOM7ZlPFaqRcc1r5KYT3aR XPrEPt6bp0jT9c0Du7CmueQetdpkbtmHfmTuo= Received: by 10.227.208.149 with SMTP id gc21mr12988162wbb.10.1320339890195; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:04:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.162.132 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:04:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20111103104713.7746a954.web@3dresearch.com> From: Christer Solskogen Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:04:28 +0100 Message-ID: To: Alejandro Imass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Janos Dohanics Subject: Re: postfix INST_BASE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:04:52 -0000 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Janos Dohanics wrote: >> Could you comment on the pros and cons of using INST_BASE=on in postfix >> on a production server? >> > > Great question! I know there has been some discussion to be able to > choose your base MTA upon install but I don't know how far this has > gone. > I don't use that option but rather install it as a regular port, > register it in mailer.conf when it asks you to and then do this in > your rc.conf > > sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > postfix_enable="YES" > You can do this a lot easier with just: sendmail_enable="NONE" postfix_enable="YES" -- chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 17:10:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3AB106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:10:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rc5hack@yandex.ru) Received: from forward5.mail.yandex.net (forward5.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEE88FC08 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web76.yandex.ru (web76.yandex.ru [77.88.47.201]) by forward5.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C960C12047F5 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320340219; bh=17gaSrGTgxF8sPoFonlE5QrKwtvyMBmMIuiWTnkdcJw=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=O3d1qZ5bKPq7ebC1p6vFLdDsfNBy7Z4AkZq7HWOgVwDqZ2VGFUsJ1xSpqRRCaB+BN hvFAR7kHwavYXLHMKoK4DDLtZqqmja2f7vgU16830co3bs/UUKXHv+0SHbVO7t24ec KDCGf4xewqpfFcgwI4BzM3t+cT6bNDvCr9/vbw8k= Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web76.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id B166C11A0033 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320340219; bh=17gaSrGTgxF8sPoFonlE5QrKwtvyMBmMIuiWTnkdcJw=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=O3d1qZ5bKPq7ebC1p6vFLdDsfNBy7Z4AkZq7HWOgVwDqZ2VGFUsJ1xSpqRRCaB+BN hvFAR7kHwavYXLHMKoK4DDLtZqqmja2f7vgU16830co3bs/UUKXHv+0SHbVO7t24ec KDCGf4xewqpfFcgwI4BzM3t+cT6bNDvCr9/vbw8k= X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [188.134.86.249] ([188.134.86.249]) by web76.yandex.ru with HTTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <35891320340219@web76.yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:10:21 -0000 Sometimes, while building process of some port or system kernel are in progress, you suddenly remember that you did something wrong and have to stop, solve your mistake and start one more time. Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + ? If it's so, do I need to run "make clean" before I start "make" one more time? Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 17:21:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E83106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76738FC19 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pA3HKkIq019121; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:20:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:20:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201111031720.pA3HKkIq019121@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, rc5hack@yandex.ru In-Reply-To: <35891320340219@web76.yandex.ru> Cc: Subject: Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:21:31 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 12:10:08 2011 > From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 > Subject: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? > > Sometimes, while building process of some port or system kernel are in progress, you suddenly remember that you did something wrong and have to stop, solve your mistake and start one more time. > > Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + ? Yes. > If it's so, do I need to run "make clean" before I start "make" one more time? Authoritative answer: "It depends". On what you 'did wrong", and what it takes to fix it. e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is 'configure, make depend, cd , make', and realize you left something out of the config file, after you edit the config file, you have to rerun _all_ those steps. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 17:27:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C345D106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rockstar01@y7mail.com) Received: from nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EFD28FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 17:27:08 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.192] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 17:27:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1050.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 17:27:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 934374.99697.bm@omp1050.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 76236 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Nov 2011 17:27:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=y7mail.com; s=s1024; t=1320341228; bh=FvUXn34ld6YbdY9VTfe5/EAzIQpMwP0on5dvEScwHmk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xVKyZVHNsnOJcF3r+fv29lhgysaUuhEiwYdeHTdMiLRZrBmSzx+wJG6L+WcO+lxClLXvAwAlPwbwd/yQxokOPuUu2Ysk88rSCpxvjZm77CvekPp6hTRxBcdlpI6He1XUUAE45BBdC7UVl5uNieA/f34pVUr1vpIkA9vchDz9k9A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=y7mail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=n8xQdXKN7ab2mCvo5OU26iHAKC5cWyr4qghYzsN6HaDchzIGXbUfX0CMd1mrPUmIdG0iXQgjt9OIVXFymbnS7VOhvNvF1cGHTMN8NFFQ7gnF983CXkpUqDfGO5JpZpBIQ8tQQQavzINC+TYeuepRnQuMDWW+mLrQtyw+tAzi2O8=; X-YMail-OSG: cVB7V2oVM1nqGu8lw3l5jYgzf5R.7aRYl_QXg1FxMjRBwvO NOJjR_q3yHEHaWtOb4b5AQG8MUCQ1qFx3RXnvWUqVcqskQz2918lIHX5J_Xn 9tHkOVliZx7OZQhbxZCseU8uNzz2KvEeMF1Y5104VPMkoOtf8kz4v51UMRku wqcdnRnTDOefdKKMzHPB70scLcDmdqjHFdFJxX4OzGoP9Ba_A1NLX.3ioa6h OayF2OXomorPIhzNeYGXGOGZL6DMnHzYaeCdVn18xvq6rQLN7elf7ofLbCiQ j3iACYrOS9M5HdXzAImgi_dSAe1L3TqF08gEV9Ui585GusogBmYvZDwIMxQ9 Li0NAflh1quh5HgolYOC3h4or8dWkDTlQhlyNZnQOZlVS7AY5Su3uLvbeooq 01jQ54.cZXs1nuAfKur4ld6qs Received: from [202.213.143.30] by web122205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:27:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.11 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 Message-ID: <1320341228.66318.YahooMailClassic@web122205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:27:08 -0700 (PDT) From: masayoshi To: Alexandre In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:27:09 -0000 --- Inexperienced FreeBSD user: Level 1 pow 1, spd 1, vit 1,int 1,luck 1 --- On Fri, 4/11/11, Alexandre wrote: > From: Alexandre > Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) > To: "Jason Helfman" , "Michael Sierchio" , "masayoshi" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Received: Friday, 4 November, 2011, 3:42 AM > > > > > >=C2=A0 I beg to differ. If you run a kernel called > CUSTOM, it won't work. And if > Hi, > The freebsd-update tool works fine with GENERIC and CUSTOM > kernels. In > fact, GENERIC kernel is upgraded during the upgrade step. > With a custom > kernel, you just have to rebuild it. This tool update by > default the source > code, the entire base system, and the kernel. > Please read the handbook : > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html Thank you very much for the=E3=80=80understandable explanations. I appreciate it very much. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 17:29:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B1E106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBBB8FC12 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so1834776bkb.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.131.215 with SMTP id m65mr3303813wei.5.1320341348892; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b5sm11402915wbh.4.2011.11.03.10.29.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB2CF62.1070107@my.gd> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:29:06 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201111031720.pA3HKkIq019121@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201111031720.pA3HKkIq019121@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:29:13 -0000 On 11/3/11 6:20 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 12:10:08 2011 >> From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 >> Subject: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? >> >> Sometimes, while building process of some port or system kernel are in progress, you suddenly remember that you did something wrong and have to stop, solve your mistake and start one more time. >> >> Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + ? > > Yes. > >> If it's so, do I need to run "make clean" before I start "make" one more time? > > Authoritative answer: "It depends". > > On what you 'did wrong", and what it takes to fix it. > > e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is 'configure, > make depend, cd , make', and realize you left something out of the config > file, after you edit the config file, you have to rerun _all_ those steps. > Is it even advisable to build the kernel the "old" way ? I feel safer with "cd /usr/src && make buildkernel" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 17:46:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262A2106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss.mail@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9544A8FC16 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:46:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwp14 with SMTP id 14so2346747wwp.31 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:46:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:x-virus-scanned:to:cc:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :x-operating-system:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sfGXU8USolG0JHYGditu70p0H6gOJeAt3JLV1b0DRO8=; b=LJr+4mllOhVBS4uCHLhMJ6h47pRE7bePyZjQoP1aURlO91BMaNr6cVneKR52Ivng7j orvX4V84H9bsbiB5cHNNo88ieMZsUfBXFKZ0wq3iWtO9uMinfoV4GlMBUt7nWQCy1JP3 24uRsLd0FeI1XI5Kj7xJociO5w/J1eueR0tpg= Received: by 10.227.203.200 with SMTP id fj8mr14915578wbb.14.1320340763506; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (LCaen-151-92-21-48.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr. [217.128.200.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p16sm11321147wbn.14.2011.11.03.10.19.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Eric Masson Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E44CF12A; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:19:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.associated-bears.org Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org ([127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lqiSfVNHZ7S4; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:19:16 +0100 (CET) Received: by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D8C4CF0D4; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:19:16 +0100 (CET) To: Christer Solskogen From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: (Christer Solskogen's message of "Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:04:28 +0100") References: <20111103104713.7746a954.web@3dresearch.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p4 amd64 Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:19:16 +0100 Message-ID: <86vcr1azu3.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Alejandro Imass , FreeBSD Questions , Janos Dohanics Subject: Re: postfix INST_BASE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:46:22 -0000 Christer Solskogen writes: Hi, > You can do this a lot easier with just: > sendmail_enable="NONE" >From rc.sendmail(8) : RC.CONF VARIABLES The following variables affect the behavior of rc.sendmail. They are defined in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and can be changed in /etc/rc.conf. sendmail_enable (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system boot time. If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback interface. The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be used. It will be removed in a future release. Regards ric Masson -- CS: Oui mais alors moi je me construis une souris avec autant de boutons qu'applis et je fais des racourcis, rena ! :-) LP: Ah oui, mais alors l il va falloir acheter des doigts, rerena! ;-p -+- LP in Guide du Macounet Pervers : Vous m'en mettrez une poigne -+- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 17:34:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0A3106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rockstar01@y7mail.com) Received: from nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FB888FC19 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 17:34:54 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.168] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 17:34:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 17:34:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 595194.31032.bm@omp1024.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 25285 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Nov 2011 17:34:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=y7mail.com; s=s1024; t=1320341694; bh=vpB9N5R3TptUzAtc042sfVei5F1pCq0H8H9ub1MMmaY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Nll700ueebVJjIdgXCPu4hCCtQPSqdFBY5OvkJWULBMw29z+lU1FtBO8pTZQUWYxP+Ew6n+0JfJ79UWQjLT+ZnlbT2mfr7QT6PeHnUI1js7EAG/sZ7D2KJPG8cMn8XcdI9XseYgGufHcQ72xjBlbpc5C39v34VCp1YneiJDKDxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=y7mail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JVQJa2gxWKywkdtXnfi8nLIzDkiYAfO8BzaKvkVrvCCUAefYAvkdvSbUmZw56XKKbnVVuYog3hlu2F3CYezeUTAJtBDHC5DnOJuvL3wqd8kgUc80z3dJiP7eMexfR5qHf/s87eNL2GJJZGGxBVxiucb0hAUkAbULruKduEzrvcI=; X-YMail-OSG: FPUrlREVM1k4pp65Yu8U9g82wCe5TGzwBK9.L0taPCP.GVx QyqMXtu3g Received: from [202.213.143.30] by web122218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:34:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.11 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 Message-ID: <1320341694.21854.YahooMailClassic@web122218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:34:54 -0700 (PDT) From: masayoshi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1320341228.66318.YahooMailClassic@web122205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:11:18 +0000 Cc: axelbsd@ymail.com Subject: Re: freebsd-update (custom kernel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:34:55 -0000 Sorry,all. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 18:41:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C27C106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rc5hack@yandex.ru) Received: from forward4.mail.yandex.net (forward4.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BAF8FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web71.yandex.ru (web71.yandex.ru [77.88.46.31]) by forward4.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 9F865504350 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:41:16 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320345676; bh=YT1OtL3bCJ3V3Uy8Vz8/BlA/H/H1H91DHGmmVDtaKZ8=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=JQhyLjymczJAqA1hL0Q5b4O80+FjZIqJtpqc2XScsJe9zNt7U8Ufil+54x33oJSAd Kbd3rGa1JDLxGv6uiI6DcnP96AgzRytLUWFlq9beG6OkP1I2pVClARzd0npj+KzkPB +I9wmaiDsJwHGjflji3clAsNs36v0T+lDIRMfl1s= Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web71.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 8683B200803C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:41:16 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320345676; bh=YT1OtL3bCJ3V3Uy8Vz8/BlA/H/H1H91DHGmmVDtaKZ8=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=JQhyLjymczJAqA1hL0Q5b4O80+FjZIqJtpqc2XScsJe9zNt7U8Ufil+54x33oJSAd Kbd3rGa1JDLxGv6uiI6DcnP96AgzRytLUWFlq9beG6OkP1I2pVClARzd0npj+KzkPB +I9wmaiDsJwHGjflji3clAsNs36v0T+lDIRMfl1s= X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [188.134.86.249] ([188.134.86.249]) by web71.yandex.ru with HTTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:41:16 +0400 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <59461320345676@web71.yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:41:16 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Subject: freebsd-update: how to understand, what have changed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:41:18 -0000 I running 8.2-RELEASE-p4. I have just run freebsd-update and it dave done something I dont't understand: # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 8.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. Fetching 1 files... done. The following files will be updated as part of updating to 8.2-RELEASE-p4: /boot/GENERIC/kernel # freebsd-update install Installing updates... done. It download something, but doesn't shows any files changes. So, what have changed? Does I need to rebuild my custom kernel or no? Does I need to reboot? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 18:47:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F498106567B for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rc5hack@yandex.ru) Received: from forward2.mail.yandex.net (forward2.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27138FC08 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web46.yandex.ru (web46.yandex.ru [77.88.47.185]) by forward2.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 2C15012A4C87; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:47:02 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320346022; bh=A/Ay/cK3skbe2TJgLgtcymKbNRGme/Z0JcP4/+ywadQ=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=Zz1R0Gdp1QxTnwN5djlAY107EP/+7Z8e8KbV+9i6CdBfQ0EYx/woHSwZzBumSf+z5 aJrPBUloswNzkSibb5qbVivQYVYfN7pWqVRZfQtEe/FFBZPzoMacJnHmwAy75A5uD0 x9dDQfYdk7DqrKM0ZQX69nsmOQQz1oa898eTihAQ= Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web46.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 02DAB36824F; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:47:01 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320346022; bh=A/Ay/cK3skbe2TJgLgtcymKbNRGme/Z0JcP4/+ywadQ=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=Zz1R0Gdp1QxTnwN5djlAY107EP/+7Z8e8KbV+9i6CdBfQ0EYx/woHSwZzBumSf+z5 aJrPBUloswNzkSibb5qbVivQYVYfN7pWqVRZfQtEe/FFBZPzoMacJnHmwAy75A5uD0 x9dDQfYdk7DqrKM0ZQX69nsmOQQz1oa898eTihAQ= X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [188.134.86.249] ([188.134.86.249]) by web46.yandex.ru with HTTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:47:01 +0400 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= To: Conrad J. Sabatier ,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <61041320346021@web46.yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:47:01 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Cc: Subject: Fwd: How to get /dev/smb* ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:47:04 -0000 02.11.2011, 14:01, "Conrad J. Sabatier" : > I just noticed, looking back at your previous mail, that you don't seem > to have a "device smbios" line in your kernel config. Try adding that > and see if the smbios facility shows up at boot time. You're actually right! Now, with this lines in kernel, SMBIOS looks more alive: # on-die sensor (added) device coretemp # System management bus device smb device smbus device smbios device ichsmb device nfsmb device intpm device alpm device viapm device nfpm device iicbus device iicbb device ic device iic device iicsmb device amdsmb # CPU control pseudo-device. Provides access to MSRs, CPUID info and microcode update feature. device cpuctl # System Management Bus (SMB) options ENABLE_ALART # Control alarm on Intel intpm driver So, system shows it during boot: # dmesg -a |grep smb smbios0: at iomem 0xf0480-0xf049e on motherboard smbios0: Version: 2.7, BCD Revision: 2.7 > Although no "smbios0" device actually shows up under /dev. Perhaps > some more knowledgeable individual might enlighten us as to what > capabilities having this in your kernel config actually enables. The same thing. # ls -la /dev/sm* ls: /dev/sm*: No such file or directory > Also, just looking at the (x)mbmon port, the COMMENT line in the > Makefile states: > > A X motherboard monitor for LM78/79, W8378x, AS99127F, VT82C686 and > ADM9240 > > So, this port appears to be useful only on a very specific range of > motherboards. I hope that those chipsets are kind of generic things, that are compatible with modern ones like my Z68. It goes without saying that SOME of modern MB, supporting Intel Core(tm) CPUs are still supported by mbmon - it shows state of MB (not CPU) thermal sensor, for example. I can't give you exact models, but I can give it after some days (need to ask). >> Does it means that it is no way to read temperature sensors on >> motherboard? > Well, it depends. :-) > > I'm not at all familiar with your particular processor/motherboard, so I > can only offer some rather limited advice that may steer you in the > right direction for further exploration. There are a number of devices > you can enable in your kernel config that may provide some of what > you're looking for. > > Here, on my amd64 box, for instance, "device amdtemp", along with > "device cpuctl" and "device cpufreq" makes the following dev.cpu.* > sysctls available, which are one way to (manually) monitor your > system. As you can see below, this provides information on CPU > temperature and frequency. > > # sysctl dev.cpu > dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU > dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001 > dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 > dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 47.0C > dev.cpu.0.freq: 2200 > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2200/23500 1100/14280 > dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 > dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 1931us > dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU > dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002 > dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 > dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 47.0C > dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/0 > dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4658us > dev.cpu.2.%desc: ACPI CPU > dev.cpu.2.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.2.%location: handle=\_PR_.P003 > dev.cpu.2.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 > dev.cpu.2.%parent: acpi0 > dev.cpu.2.temperature: 47.0C > dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/0 > dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% last 3551us > dev.cpu.3.%desc: ACPI CPU > dev.cpu.3.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.3.%location: handle=\_PR_.P004 > dev.cpu.3.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 > dev.cpu.3.%parent: acpi0 > dev.cpu.3.temperature: 47.0C > dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/0 > dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4943us As I already say, "coretemp works fine" - I could read CPU thermal sensors with dev.cpu.#CORE_ID.temperature sysctl after I added "coretemp" device into my kernel. Problem is to read MB sensors, like "chasis (system) temperature", fans RPM, voltages and so on. Now, with smbios device enabled, it still doesn't work the perfect way: # mbmon -V No VIA686 HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -S No SMBus HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -I No ISA-IO HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -A InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 This program needs "setuid root"!! # mbmon -D Probe Request: none >>> Testing Reg's at ISA-IO <<< [ISA Port IO-Base:0x290] Probing Winbond/Asus/LM78/79 chip: CR40:0x44, CR41:0x00, CR42:0x00, CR43:0x00 CR44:0x00, CR45:0x00, CR46:0x00, CR47:0x00 CR48:0x00, CR49:0x00, CR4A:0x00, CR4B:0x00 CR4C:0x00, CR4D:0x00, CR4E:0x80, CR4F:0x00 CR56:0xFF, CR58:0xFF, CR59:0xFF, CR5D:0x19 CR3E:0xFF, CR13:0x00, CR17:0xFF, CRA1:0xFF CR20:0xD1, CR22:0x37, CR23:0x78, CR24:0x8A CR27:0xC7, CR29:0xFF, CR2A:0xFF, CR2B:0xFF No Hardware Monitor found!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 18:48:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1C61065670 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rc5hack@yandex.ru) Received: from forward5.mail.yandex.net (forward5.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCB78FC0A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web57.yandex.ru (web57.yandex.ru [77.88.47.163]) by forward5.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3BBC012034FF; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:48:27 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320346107; bh=sHhESHSGmVX+nQSp5BVs9M5x0WKYAcvAqC3qf2SOTHQ=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=e4Easg9pH1e0Df/ziYmQdFwOj7jZ4aUbdg98Ikni0ortnnk7hV0YydfBCJCNUkNbp 7Nf1f6o93B9ZADK3yUX2SGX3qaEddpaRo0E6+Bjwnq+P9cSodvJkkPwNqosLVKbIuu p9SExhBpS26rd931S7iJR3s42FekYushAmcr62b4= Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web57.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 13E6E8002F7; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:48:27 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320346107; bh=sHhESHSGmVX+nQSp5BVs9M5x0WKYAcvAqC3qf2SOTHQ=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=e4Easg9pH1e0Df/ziYmQdFwOj7jZ4aUbdg98Ikni0ortnnk7hV0YydfBCJCNUkNbp 7Nf1f6o93B9ZADK3yUX2SGX3qaEddpaRo0E6+Bjwnq+P9cSodvJkkPwNqosLVKbIuu p9SExhBpS26rd931S7iJR3s42FekYushAmcr62b4= X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [188.134.86.249] ([188.134.86.249]) by web57.yandex.ru with HTTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:48:26 +0400 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= To: Robert Bonomi ,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <59571320346106@web57.yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:48:26 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Cc: Subject: Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:48:28 -0000 03.11.2011, 21:20, "Robert Bonomi" : >> If it's so, do I need to run "make clean" before I start "make" one more time? > Authoritative answer: "It depends". > > On what you 'did wrong", and what it takes to fix it. > > e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is 'configure, > make depend, cd , make', and realize you left something out of the config > file, after you edit the config file, you have to rerun _all_ those steps. Does it matter, if I always use "make buildkernel make installkernel" way to rebuild kernels? > make buildkernel .. oh! something wrong! + .. mistake fixed! > make buildkernel > make installkernel - is right? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 18:49:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69E2106566B for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797228FC14 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pA3ImlMT019623 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:48:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:48:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201111031848.pA3ImlMT019623@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4EB2CF62.1070107@my.gd> Subject: Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:49:30 -0000 On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:29:06 +0100, Damien Fleuriot On 11/3/11 6:20 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 12:10:08 2011 > >> From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= > >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 > >> Subject: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? > >> > >> Sometimes, while building process of some port or system kernel are in progress, you suddenly remember that you did something wrong and have to stop, solve your mistake and start one more time. > >> > >> Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + ? > > > > Yes. > > > >> If it's so, do I need to run "make clean" before I start "make" one more time? > > > > Authoritative answer: "It depends". > > > > On what you 'did wrong", and what it takes to fix it. > > > > e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is 'configure, > > make depend, cd , make', and realize you left something out of the config > > file, after you edit the config file, you have to rerun _all_ those steps. > > > > Is it even advisable to build the kernel the "old" way ? On a slow processor, it makes a *BIG* differnence. Even more so if you build everything you need into the kernel. 'make buildkernel' always recompiles an relinks *everything*. whether or not any dependenies for the module have changed. I've tried 'make buildkernel' on a 'loaded' 486 box, and had it take close to TWENTY FOUR HOURS to complete. With one minor tweak to the config file, e.g. changing one of the 'shared memory' constants, and it is _another_ 24+ hours. *Lots* of it building loadable modules that I have no need for, nor any intention of ever useing. Using the 'old' way, a first-time kernel build was under 40 minutes, and a 'tweak' re-build was under 15. That box is long gone, but on a 733mhz PIII I can go from editing a config file to running on the new kernel in less than 5 minutes (wall clock). The largest part of that time is running 'make depend'. (Second-largest is the rebooting. :) I don't know about anybody else, but _I_ consider that speed differential a *big* advantage to the 'old way'. :) I am likely _not_ the typical user -- I run a monolithic kernel, with everything I need 'compiled in'; *no* loadable modules. Yeah, it can be a nuisance if I need something that isn't compiled in, but I don't get ny unexpected surprises. It also does wonders as far as reducing the required 'root partition' size. I run a 64mb(!!) partition, with less than 1/2 of it occupied by the system install. With the running kernel, a copy of the prior running one as a fall-back, and a GENERIC for worst-case recovery. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 18:50:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FAD1065705 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rc5hack@yandex.ru) Received: from forward2.mail.yandex.net (forward2.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6428FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web62.yandex.ru (web62.yandex.ru [77.88.46.53]) by forward2.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id EF43412A4791; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:50:03 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320346204; bh=Im5PLVxEj9nIUlmTl6iWfun6J/HsijMWA1dbe+AxMmU=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=LeOf3dDvHVfu5KiUP2CGEleX+VYvcpMWTntr2GqEzcOGNxb6Ytjh2ZlMrhWj6qyv7 qWmV2uA6SIUFO4Yqt5IThs7wda6mO9sBVstWaTfc8nyEP/MMUPGZK5hawZ6wnULu8z idtYXio5htlytOajlUeZWslCwJapdi/WSg3Fxoos= Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web62.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id CB6031C4009B; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:50:03 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1320346203; bh=Im5PLVxEj9nIUlmTl6iWfun6J/HsijMWA1dbe+AxMmU=; h=From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=q3sTthn1AOx/yzudWFQ859GJmSc6MrzNxZAsdbKTV5rOzPWTGZ5cphO7fTGVDJRXu aLKA4RPaeZmQEMO7cjRe7BgIlgAJ60eGnYUx++yyEj6zlZ8doze3nNlLkDhag+NuAG 8yoqTHMZQflxpf09Byml3PVtEd510/r5Zjcq0Ndk= X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from [188.134.86.249] ([188.134.86.249]) by web62.yandex.ru with HTTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:50:03 +0400 From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= To: Conrad J. Sabatier ,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <64971320346203@web62.yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:50:03 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Cc: Subject: Re: How to get /dev/smb* ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:50:05 -0000 02.11.2011, 14:01, "Conrad J. Sabatier" : > I just noticed, looking back at your previous mail, that you don't seem > to have a "device smbios" line in your kernel config. Try adding that > and see if the smbios facility shows up at boot time. You're actually right! Now, with this lines in kernel, SMBIOS looks more alive: # on-die sensor (added) device coretemp # System management bus device smb device smbus device smbios device ichsmb device nfsmb device intpm device alpm device viapm device nfpm device iicbus device iicbb device ic device iic device iicsmb device amdsmb # CPU control pseudo-device. Provides access to MSRs, CPUID info and microcode update feature. device cpuctl # System Management Bus (SMB) options ENABLE_ALART # Control alarm on Intel intpm driver So, system shows it during boot: # dmesg -a |grep smb smbios0: at iomem 0xf0480-0xf049e on motherboard smbios0: Version: 2.7, BCD Revision: 2.7 > Although no "smbios0" device actually shows up under /dev. Perhaps > some more knowledgeable individual might enlighten us as to what > capabilities having this in your kernel config actually enables. The same thing. # ls -la /dev/sm* ls: /dev/sm*: No such file or directory > Also, just looking at the (x)mbmon port, the COMMENT line in the > Makefile states: > > A X motherboard monitor for LM78/79, W8378x, AS99127F, VT82C686 and > ADM9240 > > So, this port appears to be useful only on a very specific range of > motherboards. I hope that those chipsets are kind of generic things, that are compatible with modern ones like my Z68. It goes without saying that SOME of modern MB, supporting Intel Core(tm) CPUs are still supported by mbmon - it shows state of MB (not CPU) thermal sensor, for example. I can't give you exact models, but I can give it after some days (need to ask). >> Does it means that it is no way to read temperature sensors on >> motherboard? > Well, it depends. :-) > > I'm not at all familiar with your particular processor/motherboard, so I > can only offer some rather limited advice that may steer you in the > right direction for further exploration. There are a number of devices > you can enable in your kernel config that may provide some of what > you're looking for. > > Here, on my amd64 box, for instance, "device amdtemp", along with > "device cpuctl" and "device cpufreq" makes the following dev.cpu.* > sysctls available, which are one way to (manually) monitor your > system. As you can see below, this provides information on CPU > temperature and frequency. > > # sysctl dev.cpu > dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU > dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.P001 > dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 > dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 47.0C > dev.cpu.0.freq: 2200 > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2200/23500 1100/14280 > dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 > dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 1931us > dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU > dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.P002 > dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 > dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 47.0C > dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/0 > dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4658us > dev.cpu.2.%desc: ACPI CPU > dev.cpu.2.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.2.%location: handle=\_PR_.P003 > dev.cpu.2.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 > dev.cpu.2.%parent: acpi0 > dev.cpu.2.temperature: 47.0C > dev.cpu.2.cx_supported: C1/0 > dev.cpu.2.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.2.cx_usage: 100.00% last 3551us > dev.cpu.3.%desc: ACPI CPU > dev.cpu.3.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.3.%location: handle=\_PR_.P004 > dev.cpu.3.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 > dev.cpu.3.%parent: acpi0 > dev.cpu.3.temperature: 47.0C > dev.cpu.3.cx_supported: C1/0 > dev.cpu.3.cx_lowest: C1 > dev.cpu.3.cx_usage: 100.00% last 4943us As I already say, "coretemp works fine" - I could read CPU thermal sensors with dev.cpu.#CORE_ID.temperature sysctl after I added "coretemp" device into my kernel. Problem is to read MB sensors, like "chasis (system) temperature", fans RPM, voltages and so on. Now, with smbios device enabled, it still doesn't work the perfect way: # mbmon -V No VIA686 HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -S No SMBus HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -I No ISA-IO HWM available!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 # mbmon -A InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 This program needs "setuid root"!! # mbmon -D Probe Request: none >>> Testing Reg's at ISA-IO <<< [ISA Port IO-Base:0x290] Probing Winbond/Asus/LM78/79 chip: CR40:0x44, CR41:0x00, CR42:0x00, CR43:0x00 CR44:0x00, CR45:0x00, CR46:0x00, CR47:0x00 CR48:0x00, CR49:0x00, CR4A:0x00, CR4B:0x00 CR4C:0x00, CR4D:0x00, CR4E:0x80, CR4F:0x00 CR56:0xFF, CR58:0xFF, CR59:0xFF, CR5D:0x19 CR3E:0xFF, CR13:0x00, CR17:0xFF, CRA1:0xFF CR20:0xD1, CR22:0x37, CR23:0x78, CR24:0x8A CR27:0xC7, CR29:0xFF, CR2A:0xFF, CR2B:0xFF No Hardware Monitor found!! InitMBInfo: Unknown error: 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 19:03:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2549F1065672 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 19:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52B18FC16 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 19:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so2141839wyg.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:03:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.220.223 with SMTP id o73mr669141wep.89.1320347029352; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.85.102 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:03:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [87.223.146.209] Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 20:03:49 +0100 Message-ID: From: Antonio Vieiro To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: ZFS import/export weird behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:03:51 -0000 Hi all, I created a ZFS filesystem on a freebsd-zfs partition. So far so good. Now the problem comes when exporting and importing it. I have two boxes with 9.0-RC1. On one of them "zfs import" says the filesystem is corrupt, whereas in the other box "zfs import" works fine. How so? Any ideas appreciated, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 19:36:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE603106566B for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 19:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FC78FC08 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 19:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA3JaLll031660; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:36:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id pA3JaLUQ031657; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:36:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:36:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= In-Reply-To: <35891320340219@web76.yandex.ru> Message-ID: References: <35891320340219@web76.yandex.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:36:21 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:36:24 -0000 On Thu, 3 Nov 2011, ????? ????? wrote: > Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + ? > > If it's so, do I need to run "make clean" before I start "make" one more time? With ports, a "make clean" before rebuilding is a good idea. The build might not be able to continue cleanly, or might have to build differently, depending on what was changed. For /usr/src, I just remove /usr/obj/usr and build again, but also use devel/ccache so there's not much penalty for doing that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 20:20:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD905106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 20:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp04.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp04.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.153.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C038FC13 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 20:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-51-20.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.51.20]:43647 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp04.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RM3Xa-0003do-FF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:05:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 90566 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2011 21:05:32 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 3 Nov 2011 21:05:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 29709 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Nov 2011 21:05:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:05:32 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20111103200532.GA29669@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <4EB2CF62.1070107@my.gd> <201111031848.pA3ImlMT019623@mail.r-bonomi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201111031848.pA3ImlMT019623@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.51.20 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1RM3Xa-0003do-FF. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp04.sth.basefarm.net 1RM3Xa-0003do-FF e30351d4e84015a844999fd9329dbca8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:20:33 -0000 On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 01:48:47PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:29:06 +0100, Damien Fleuriot > On 11/3/11 6:20 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 12:10:08 2011 > > >> From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= > > >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 > > >> Subject: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? > > >> > > >> Sometimes, while building process of some port or system kernel are in progress, you suddenly remember that you did something wrong and have to stop, solve your mistake and start one more time. > > >> > > >> Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl + ? > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > >> If it's so, do I need to run "make clean" before I start "make" one more time? > > > > > > Authoritative answer: "It depends". > > > > > > On what you 'did wrong", and what it takes to fix it. > > > > > > e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is 'configure, > > > make depend, cd , make', and realize you left something out of the config > > > file, after you edit the config file, you have to rerun _all_ those steps. > > > > > > > Is it even advisable to build the kernel the "old" way ? > > On a slow processor, it makes a *BIG* differnence. > Even more so if you build everything you need into the kernel. > > 'make buildkernel' always recompiles an relinks *everything*. whether or > not any dependenies for the module have changed. If that is a problem then just use 'make -DNO_CLEAN buildkernel' and it won't reompile stuff that doesn't need to be recompiled. (Works for buildworld as well.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 21:52:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C27106566B for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249438FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so2343885wyg.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:52:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=XCXCFM4LTB70qTh0W0SU04GsZamBE8U9vNpFwFB0KHY=; b=BJqiPWXzsYoRUqgYbe2nQElqfDymFc3qyh4wHsjzDGoGlyfnmXV4plZQqNDQJo+ykP tbemWeUWB3YmASUANdAq0yKhNAmNlTrxoCTv3UtxQvlICsP+tlcNgB9+l1DAei8ul0ad dO+SKG4Na2fqidCVGb9alp+6RF0IDWQ0WkPQo= Received: by 10.227.204.132 with SMTP id fm4mr8447725wbb.26.1320357135112; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:52:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.162.132 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:51:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86vcr1azu3.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> References: <20111103104713.7746a954.web@3dresearch.com> <86vcr1azu3.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> From: Christer Solskogen Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:51:54 +0100 Message-ID: To: Eric Masson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Alejandro Imass , FreeBSD Questions , Janos Dohanics Subject: Re: postfix INST_BASE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:52:16 -0000 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Eric Masson wrote: > From rc.sendmail(8) : See, know I also learned something today :-) -- chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 22:12:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF1C106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C248FC15 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111103221202.GKDT3804.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo210.cox.net>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:12:02 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo210.cox.net with bizsmtp id smC11h00M55wwzE02mC2QM; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:12:02 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.4EB311B2.009D,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=eb/7hJztr6wcfnZUCQTvufzf64xQ9JX7XTLFvRhqo6c= c=1 sm=1 a=gH2l33NO9zgA:10 a=Y_uy9KMkTFgA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=Fdkxr_5KmFUA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=lM4-zUH5AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=5t_4gl0mlZoqBLqnEzIA:9 a=pvA44qeTxYYA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA3MC1KB020395; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:12:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:11:56 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CE=D4=CF=CE_=EB=CC=C5=D3=D3?= Message-ID: <20111103171156.71bde363@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <59571320346106@web57.yandex.ru> References: <59571320346106@web57.yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:12:05 -0000 On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:48:26 +0400 wrote: > 03.11.2011, 21:20, "Robert Bonomi" : > > >> If it's so, do I need to run "make clean" before I start "make" > >> one more time? > > Authoritative answer: "It depends". > > > > On what you 'did wrong", and what it takes to fix it. > > > > e.g., if you're building a kernel the 'classial' way, that is > > 'configure, make depend, cd , make', and realize you left > > something out of the config file, after you edit the config file, > > you have to rerun _all_ those steps. > > Does it matter, if I always use "make buildkernel make installkernel" > way to rebuild kernels? > > > make buildkernel > > .. > oh! something wrong! > + > .. > mistake fixed! > > > make buildkernel > > make installkernel > > - is right? That's fine, yes. But I wouldn't do an unconditional installkernel after buildkernel (suppose buildkernel failed in some way)? Either include both targets in the same make command: make buildkernel installkernel Or make the second conditional on the outcome of the first: make buildkernel && make installkernel You might also save yourself some time by using "-DNO_CLEAN" after changing your kernel config. -- Conrad J. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a27sm12683152wbp.16.2011.11.03.15.15.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:15:21 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111103221521.3b733610@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <201111031720.pA3HKkIq019121@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <35891320340219@web76.yandex.ru> <201111031720.pA3HKkIq019121@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:15:26 -0000 On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:20:46 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 3 12:10:08 2011 > > From: =?koi8-r?B?4c7Uz84g68zF09M=?= > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:10:19 +0400 > > Subject: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port > > or kernel? >> > > Is it clear to interrupt the building process just by pressing Ctrl > > + ? > > Yes. Whilst it's not strictly-speaking "building", I would avoid interrupting an install. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 22:17:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3162106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:17:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2178FC08 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1RM5b0-0006N3-CS>; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:17:14 +0100 Received: from e178038027.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.38.27] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1RM5b0-0001CK-7h>; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:17:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4EB312E4.2010904@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:17:08 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111030 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: undefined Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE0C4C856A4584E23DF667483" X-Originating-IP: 85.178.38.27 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64: Weirdness with LOCALE settings: ghostswitching in csh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:17:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE0C4C856A4584E23DF667483 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello. I realised something weird in FreeBSD 10.-CURRENT/amd64 (CLANG compiled), build as from today (buildworld). Working the whole day coding some pyhton scripts and committing the code to my subversion server (most recent subversion from the ports collection, the server is a FreeBSD 9.0-RC1/amd64 box, also system compiled with CLANG, most recent as compiled world of today), suddenly, oy of the blue, trying again to commit I get this error: svn: warning: cannot set LC_CTYPE locale svn: warning: environment variable LC_CTYPE is de_DE.ISO-8859-1 svn: warning: please check that your locale name is correct Checking csh shell setting with 'locale": LANG=3D LC_CTYPE=3D"C" LC_COLLATE=3D"C" LC_TIME=3D"C" LC_NUMERIC=3D"C" LC_MONETARY=3D"C" LC_MESSAGES=3D"C" LC_ALL=3D Checking my settings from /etc/csh.cshrc and ./.cshrc or .login reveals localised settings for some of the locales as I need those: (set in $HOME/.cshrc) setenv LC_CTYPE "de_DE.ISO-8859-1" setenv LC_TIME "de_DE.ISO-8859-1" setenv LC_MONETARY "de_DE.ISO-8859-1" What is going on? I realised this behaviour now several times, first time I thought I did something and I couldn't remember, but this time, only two terminal windows were opened and the whole day committing data to the repository wasn't an issue. Is there an explanation for this? Regards, Oliver --------------enigE0C4C856A4584E23DF667483 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOsxLpAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8nSIH/jbUrcSOQV2UU6qHw9juJcR5 8d124PWx859gclN0Rx4sGnkPgwjRVwa214eA88XeH4z/oWDyPbAczUMgffkE/Ydy QfS3P6v2de5IrOZVCN9kCzmuRTALYKEf+RwUR4VAgoE25NECbZ+lUqg/hyZQ0Gm/ BMk2zptz9P3DZs8rbejAaIMkMD767x5yA1odqmGyjCp2Ke5wyx71RRmfjqUa633c weqS148KmRinKaYTDa/pIC3z9A6aPrEGmgJ+i4vR4QT5+G5EhrAg6ZBuExdyJFUC 0hr9bbAG8oteS0mVfK3uG4irU93fRwQaen5IZKzMD+KdOUbK1BCKpJezV9Ritdk= =ghGz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE0C4C856A4584E23DF667483-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 22:24:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36D3106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6138FC14 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111103222417.PONF3769.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo210.cox.net>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:24:17 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo210.cox.net with bizsmtp id smQG1h00p55wwzE02mQHSV; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:24:17 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020207.4EB31491.00C3,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=eb/7hJztr6wcfnZUCQTvufzf64xQ9JX7XTLFvRhqo6c= c=1 sm=1 a=Y_uy9KMkTFgA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=lM4-zUH5AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=HHIC3UmFVyN0W_bGvP0A:9 a=uh92CXprO-ZwmkuIHhEA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA3MOGje047193; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:24:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:24:11 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20111103172411.130b15b8@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <201111031848.pA3ImlMT019623@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <4EB2CF62.1070107@my.gd> <201111031848.pA3ImlMT019623@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it safe to interrupt (Ctrl + C) while building a port or kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:24:23 -0000 On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:48:47 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi wrote: [snip] > I am likely _not_ the typical user -- I run a monolithic kernel, with > everything I need 'compiled in'; *no* loadable modules. Yeah, it can > be a nuisance if I need something that isn't compiled in, but I don't > get ny unexpected surprises. It also does wonders as far as reducing > the required 'root partition' size. I run a 64mb(!!) partition, with > less than 1/2 of it occupied by the system install. With the running > kernel, a copy of the prior running one as a fall-back, and a GENERIC > for worst-case recovery. If you don't use modules, why build them at all? Just set "NO_MODULES=yes" in /etc/make.conf and save yourself that much time. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 22:33:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141401065670 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B888FC14 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.41]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31294A702CD for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30508 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2011 22:33:37 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 26820, pid: 29177, t: 0.1411s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Nov 2011 22:33:37 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC5C2E0D3; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6F10339848; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:33:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Janos Dohanics References: <20111103104713.7746a954.web@3dresearch.com> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:33:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20111103104713.7746a954.web@3dresearch.com> (Janos Dohanics's message of "Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:47:13 -0400") Message-ID: <44fwi47s5i.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: postfix INST_BASE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:33:39 -0000 Janos Dohanics writes: > Could you comment on the pros and cons of using INST_BASE=on in postfix > on a production server? I wouldn't describe either the pros or the cons as particularly strong. If you're not going to use sendmail, you might want to remove it. If you do source upgrades, then setting WITHOUT_SENDMAIL in src.conf will keep it from getting built or installed, and will enable you to remove the existing sendmail files as part of "make delete-old". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 23:02:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A6B106564A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 23:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA308FC18 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 23:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id smEW1h0051wfjNsA7moreg; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:48:51 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([67.180.84.87]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id smn21h01L1t3BNj8jmn2PK; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:47:02 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 69DFC102C19; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:48:58 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20111103224858.GA2683@icarus.home.lan> References: <4EB312E4.2010904@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EB312E4.2010904@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64: Weirdness with LOCALE settings: ghostswitching in csh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:02:09 -0000 On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 11:17:08PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello. > I realised something weird in FreeBSD 10.-CURRENT/amd64 (CLANG > compiled), build as from today (buildworld). > > Working the whole day coding some pyhton scripts and committing the code > to my subversion server (most recent subversion from the ports > collection, the server is a FreeBSD 9.0-RC1/amd64 box, also system > compiled with CLANG, most recent as compiled world of today), suddenly, > oy of the blue, trying again to commit I get this error: > > svn: warning: cannot set LC_CTYPE locale > svn: warning: environment variable LC_CTYPE is de_DE.ISO-8859-1 > svn: warning: please check that your locale name is correct > > > Checking csh shell setting with 'locale": > LANG= > LC_CTYPE="C" > LC_COLLATE="C" > LC_TIME="C" > LC_NUMERIC="C" > LC_MONETARY="C" > LC_MESSAGES="C" > LC_ALL= > > > Checking my settings from /etc/csh.cshrc and ./.cshrc or .login reveals > localised settings for some of the locales as I need those: > > (set in $HOME/.cshrc) > setenv LC_CTYPE "de_DE.ISO-8859-1" > setenv LC_TIME "de_DE.ISO-8859-1" > setenv LC_MONETARY "de_DE.ISO-8859-1" > > What is going on? > > I realised this behaviour now several times, first time I thought I did > something and I couldn't remember, but this time, only two terminal > windows were opened and the whole day committing data to the repository > wasn't an issue. > > Is there an explanation for this? It sounds like a problem specific to the "client end", meaning your -CURRENT box. If that's the case: shouldn't this mail have gone to freebsd-current@ instead of freebsd-stable@ ? What am I missing? As for your problem: your locale looks incorrect. It's "de_DE.ISO8859-1". Note that yours has an extra hyphen, which probably explains the error (sort of). $ ls -ld /usr/share/locale/de_DE* drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Sep 28 14:36 /usr/share/locale/de_DE.ISO8859-1/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Sep 28 14:36 /usr/share/locale/de_DE.ISO8859-15/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Sep 28 14:36 /usr/share/locale/de_DE.UTF-8/ As for the fact that it's "random": I cannot explain why a sub-shell might get spawned in some cases but not others. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, US | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 23:40:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01292106566C for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 23:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75558FC0A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 23:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qadb12 with SMTP id b12so173128qad.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:40:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=PMtOkoUHJw7txup0m0WQF5hyPpBgCb4RP7nBM88Gt/E=; b=m+O0dom/fi/IysFx7cFYWgUXwTxcRZ1R7k4WQU6INUV0WvhBiErHPeW3wgZi4iIEeo OKFi1k3FAoZwZQBP1Q2K4V7IahKzVbzT7w3m1EAQDoyX122XdAhh6jyQ9zlWeL8N6LM5 AVlF2s4kilDK8n3ifQsDMWJHDG7jgRXnUWPQs= Received: by 10.50.217.195 with SMTP id pa3mr7560278igc.12.1320363603786; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l28sm13759099ibc.3.2011.11.03.16.40.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:39:55 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.7.2; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201111031839.55627.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: smartmontools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:40:05 -0000 Hi! Today I installed "smartmontools" on FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3. In the smartd.conf I changed just DEVICESCAN -a and I have in /var/log/messages: acd0: FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY status=51 error=4 Do I need to setup something else in the smartd.conf or is something wrong with my HD, please? Thanks in advance. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 23:55:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAAE106566B for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 23:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720818FC17 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 23:55:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so3119078faa.13 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:55:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=M4xq7OFE+/ETAkvPd+JFXUQhEnUJEI8oFVFd8St9Lz4=; b=wfiheZAjEhGZQo63P/XFyJ6tfgKH+64cl2sc6U4RwM/HmvgUpYNFCVgJCIb9cEWX1/ PbFufdFQhOPxSnYZsDl/JWL9cq+gjm07Uw1H/4bDscKsCOd3MUVp701Cd3Ayf35eEA+J hqLvvwvFppSiU1im6zrdaCeYEovquXLqMukuU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.5.66 with SMTP id 2mr19984970fau.26.1320364537555; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.88.72 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:55:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201111031839.55627.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201111031839.55627.lumiwa@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:55:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: ajtiM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smartmontools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:55:38 -0000 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:39 PM, ajtiM wrote: > Hi! > > Today I installed "smartmontools" on FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3. In the > smartd.conf I changed just DEVICESCAN -a and I have in /var/log/messages: > > acd0: FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY status=51 error=4 > > Do I need to setup something else in the smartd.conf or is something wrong > with my HD, please? > That's not your HD complaining, it's your CD drive. It's probably just complaining about SMART inquiries to it which aren't supported. Some way to exclude scanning that device likely exists in smartd.conf. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 04:51:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freeBSD-questions@freeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F922106564A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 04:51:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gogowitz10@yahoo.com) Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D01C8FC08 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 04:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2011 04:37:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.10] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2011 04:37:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2011 04:37:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1320381461; bh=Mq3pBe4YAiewqZo1+Byrdvp3iaQynhFgENpR7QUejlE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=mzrSxpVunihFy6NvAQMb9aYMtRZ69kPG1s93KoufLia1DCBryeRac0pUwN9dIp32GgggcVYh+i53qIXHELAAAIPpbOZ720OYMWwKY86k9Ds7U7Kh2et6ngOu77Zi5BQTm3FHD4SVnXnzl9AWhghQEVQH4yJQG4sOogHw2hRcpMc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 446724.31821.bm@smtp110.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: aK.npPsVM1mM7argLPcEOy5BW_FXm.OAKszmPpahADWyMUY 7ONbeIZ9nXgpN0udRKMy1uXHtkLrMcZg84xg9SS1aA0B15gPaFpGlQquoiEa IdoCTZ0RDIg5UHwjRacj9ZObtQHIsaSDBndSCE3.hrnZ2jx0T5.5j2qEYZba sCDr89eRdVZ7WRrYaFz9NGqUVENSdTArgFM2_2H2Y1_apYmsXvHhpKqsVuPM s0MBdaKq2W1kdWb9Lg6TcsyPYKefZwV98XxXOakL_JBhkfw4eWI9xVRJafZZ DSiMrkaXTvEvOAHcBocfL3YQtPfa2KDU6O2G.EJuFvCbgVOtKX98OQ8ZlSPi Xm72ahNLYbIvsciOW0UWaZRE00i8qRa6N4CtbnCfReHS07Ha6n8thOK9Vaho BPPumi07TsBo- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 1zb_70OswBBE_El1XiQO4r_ORtXhdS0- Received: from [192.168.1.5] (gogowitz10@68.6.191.31 with plain) by smtp110.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Nov 2011 21:37:41 -0700 PDT From: Jacob Minshall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:37:40 -0700 Message-Id: To: freeBSD-questions@freeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: Subject: unable to find device node for /dev/asd0s4 in dev! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:51:32 -0000 I have been attempting to install breeBSD 8.2 on my 160GB apple tv 1 = hard drive. I made it so there was a blank space to partition 100GB. In = the installer I clicked make slice on that empty space, used the auto = partition sequence, then clicked all for files to install. After this = happened I got the error message "Unable to find device node for /dev/.. = in dev!". When I got back to my regular startup drive and looked at the = apple TV drive(connected by a IDE to USB by the way) all other = partitions were gone, and just a 100GB blank looking partition was left. = I did the terminal command gpt -r show on the disk, and it still had the = framework of all it's original partitions, but nothing in the 100GB left = blank. After repeated attempts to install, even with trying the command = to erase the entire drive and install freeBSD over it, it always gave me = the same response. Then I decided to make a 100GB partition in my intel = macbook pro to see if a freeBSD install there would work. It did now = work either, which leads me to my current and main problem. Now my = laptop does not start, I put in the install disk which shows that there = is no macintosh HD like it showed there was no other drives on the apple = tv disk. I have read online now that maybe I needed to add 35 blocks on = either side to not return with that response, but that doesn't answer = where my drive went and I don't quite understand how to do that. When I = go back to the installer, it shows that all partitions are there, except = the 165(i think) partition for freeBSD that is the only one which shows = up on disk utility partitioner.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 05:44:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE04106566B for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 05:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9B98FC0C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 05:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-96-236-238-95.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [96.236.238.95]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B6585A; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 01:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F0F15C5C; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 01:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 01:44:43 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: Alejandro Imass Message-Id: <20111104014443.02278467.web@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20111103104713.7746a954.web@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: postfix INST_BASE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 05:44:52 -0000 On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:23:46 -0400 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Janos Dohanics > wrote: > > Could you comment on the pros and cons of using INST_BASE=on in > > postfix on a production server? > > > > Great question! I know there has been some discussion to be able to > choose your base MTA upon install but I don't know how far this has > gone. > I don't use that option but rather install it as a regular port, > register it in mailer.conf when it asks you to and then do this in > your rc.conf > > sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > postfix_enable="YES" > > I haven't used the INST_BASE option out of fear that it might give me > trouble on building world and upgrading. Also a new approach I'm > taking is using EzJail for "service jails" so use a pure MTA jail and > use the base sendmail as a relay to that. For the time being I'm using > posfix on the base system to relay but in the future I plan to do it > with the native sendmail and only use postfix on the MTA service jail. > > -- > Alejandro Imass That's exactly what I have done when setting up systems, as well as setting WITHOUT_SENDMAIL in src.conf, as Lowell Gilbert mentioned. With the above options, Sendmail is disabled, is not being built with buildworld, and Postfix is installed as regular port in /usr/local. If INST_BASE=off is the default, what's then the usage scenario when I still would want to change it? -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 09:23:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CDC1065672 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [207.115.11.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1258B8FC0A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:23:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:23:13 +0000 (GMT) X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requirements X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium Received: from localhost (adsl-68-18-111-140.sdf.bellsouth.net[68.18.111.140]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20111104092312H03002sq0oe>; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:23:13 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.18.111.140] From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20111103103218.58F8D106566C@hub.freebsd.org> <20111103121444.1e7253bf.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: <20111104092314.23CDC1065672@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:23:14 -0000 > > I built and installed sysutils/cdrtools when there was a > > thread on burncd and SATA, but cdrecord can't see anything > > (running "cdrecord -scanbus"): > > cdrecord: Inappropriate ioctl for device. CAMIOCOMMAND ioctl failed. Cannot open or use SCSI driver. > > cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. > > cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. > > Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (amd64-unknown-freebsd9.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2010 J?rg Schilling > > Running "cdrecord dev=help" or "cdrecord dev=HELP:" did no better. > Do you have permissions set properly? Maybe it still > tries to access per ATAPICAM, which may be non-working > just like acd - just a wild guess, I'm not using 9-RC > here so I can't be more specific. > > I had a similar problem on the older computer (i386 with ATA, > > not SATA) in NetBSD, but cdrecord ran well in Linux. CD-RW > > drive there is ATAPI. > I've been using cdrecord and cdrdao now since burncd > stopped working for me somewhere in v5. For DVDs, > growisofs should work. > While cdrecord and cdrdao address th "SCSI device" > by n:n:n, growisofs uses /dev/cdN. > -- > Polytropon After I failed to burn a CD in NetBSD (5.1_STABLE) on the older computer (i386) with cdrecord, I booted into FreeBSD 8.2 RELEASE and was successful with burncd. That drive was CD-RW, ATAPI, that computer has ATA but no SATA. Does growisofs work on CDRs or only DVDs? If 'cdrecord -scanbus' doesn't work at all, how do I get the "SCSI device" n:n:n? Use camcontrol? I see both FreeBSD and NetBSD have makefs (which can make a UFS/FFS or iso file system, taking the place of mkisofs in cdrtools. But NetBSD has no CD or DVD burner in the base system. I could also try to build cdrkit and see if that works. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 14:23:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9874B106566C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 14:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDE28FC13 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 14:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156B9278FF2E for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:27:29 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K+Y52zSJucGd for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:27:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.46.167] (173-160-104-249-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.160.104.249]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 51190278FF21 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:27:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Ryan Coleman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:22:52 -0500 Message-Id: <84AD393C-FDDE-4F00-BAD8-F5CB41BCED07@d3photography.com> To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:23:07 -0000 I have a PE 2450 with dual NICs and I want to turn it into a bridging = VPN for the guys in the office to utilize. Our configuration: My office: 192.168.46.0/24 Server IPs: 192.168.46.2 [8.2-RELEASE] + public IP Corporate office: 192.168.45.0/24 My VPN: 192.168.47.0/24 [preferred] There's a NetVanta VPN between my office and the corporate office and I = presume that will still work to route 47.0/24 to 45.0/24 when all is = said and done. I am going to be supporting Windows and Mac clients (well, all windows = and then my mac) and I'd like to test it from my 8.2 server at home = before pushing this over to my MacBook Pro (using Tunnelblick) and then = to my Windows users. I've tried the FreeBSD handbook and the Section6.net walkthroughs to no = avail. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ryan=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 15:04:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558861065670 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 15:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0261D8FC18 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 15:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB35D3C93D; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:04:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pA4F4cVR002390; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:04:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:04:38 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas Mueller" Message-Id: <20111104160438.1acbcb7b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <0M8Ozy-1Qzehk3S1y-00w2OP@mx.kundenserver.de> References: <20111103103218.58F8D106566C@hub.freebsd.org> <20111103121444.1e7253bf.freebsd@edvax.de> <0M8Ozy-1Qzehk3S1y-00w2OP@mx.kundenserver.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burning CDs or DVDs with SATA drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:04:41 -0000 On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:23:13 +0000 (GMT), Thomas Mueller wrote: > After I failed to burn a CD in NetBSD (5.1_STABLE) on the > older computer (i386) with cdrecord, I booted into FreeBSD > 8.2 RELEASE and was successful with burncd. That drive was > CD-RW, ATAPI, that computer has ATA but no SATA. Good to see that it's still supposed to work in 8.2. :-) > Does growisofs work on CDRs or only DVDs? Haven't tested that, but it should also work for CD media instead of DVD, just the size of the ISO data is limited to the size of a CD. > If 'cdrecord -scanbus' doesn't work at all, how do I get > the "SCSI device" n:n:n? Use camcontrol? Yes. You need to have the "device ATAPICAM" option in your kernel (or the module for that functionality), then you can do: # camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,cd0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,cd1) at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 (pass2,da0) at scbus3 target 0 lun 1 (pass3,da1) at scbus3 target 0 lun 2 (pass4,da2) The first two entries are optical drives, the first one has recording capability. Device ID is 0:0:0, the corresponding device files are /dev/pass0 and /dev/cd0, _those_ are provided by ATAPICAM. Programs like cdreord and cdrdao require the 0:0:0 device, growisofs uses /dev/cd0. Note that you need to set the _permissions_ for those device files in order to use non-root access to them! You also need access to /dev/xpt0 which belongs to the "artificial SCSI subsystem". :-) You could, for example, make them owned root:operator, permission 0660, and add your user to the "operator" group. > I see both FreeBSD and NetBSD have makefs (which can make > a UFS/FFS or iso file system, taking the place of mkisofs > in cdrtools. But NetBSD has no CD or DVD burner in the > base system. I did always use mkisofs for preparing the ISO for a CD, but you can "include" that step by piping. The growisofs does this step implicitely, e. g. % growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -r -J /path/to/files This will run mkisofs - the flags -r and -J are explained in "man mkisofs". For a pre-mastered ISO file, % growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso would do the job. This ISO file could have been created by mkisofs, by k9copy, or even by dd. You can also use this with VCD images, created by mkvcdfs, as far as I remember. By the way, I have symlinked /dev/dvd to /dev/cd0 so I can access this "more easily". :-) > I could also try to build cdrkit and see if that works. Haven't tested this one yet, but it seems to conflict with cdrtools, and according to the Makefile, it does not run on v9. Sounds like it's work trying. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 16:41:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C48106566C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BB48FC0A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A926F78C5C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:25:58 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.7.0 (20110701) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id WY3F6n00M2pd for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:25:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E06F478C5A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:25:56 +0100 (CET) From: bsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:25:56 +0100 Message-Id: <7DB2B1A7-088D-4C7B-B82C-0BFBE13C9563@todoo.biz> To: Liste FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Problem with php5-dba build && install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:41:10 -0000 Hi,=20 I have a problem building the php5-dba port.=20 I know this is not exactly the right place to post problem related to = that, but since I have already contacted the maintener couple of weeks = ago, and I think the problem is not really so difficult to solve, I am = asking this question here.=20 swell:root 17:12:28 /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba # make install =3D=3D=3D> Patching for php5-dba-5.3.8 =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patches for php5-dba-5.3.8 =3D=3D=3D> php5-dba-5.3.8 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/phpize - = found =3D=3D=3D> php5-dba-5.3.8 depends on file: = /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.68 - found =3D=3D=3D> PHPizing for php5-dba-5.3.8 Configuring for: PHP Api Version: 20090626 Zend Module Api No: 20090626 Zend Extension Api No: 220090626 configure.in:3: warning: prefer named diversions configure.in:3: warning: prefer named diversions =3D=3D=3D> Configuring for php5-dba-5.3.8 checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /usr/bin/grep checking for egrep... /usr/bin/grep -E checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables...=20 checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking how to run the C preprocessor... cpp checking for icc... no checking for suncc... no checking whether cc understands -c and -o together... yes checking for system library directory... lib checking if compiler supports -R... yes checking build system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd7.4 checking host system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd7.4 checking target system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd7.4 checking for PHP prefix... /usr/local checking for PHP includes... -I/usr/local/include/php = -I/usr/local/include/php/main -I/usr/local/include/php/TSRM = -I/usr/local/include/php/Zend -I/usr/local/include/php/ext = -I/usr/local/include/php/ext/date/lib checking for PHP extension directory... /usr/local/lib/php/20090626 checking for PHP installed headers prefix... /usr/local/include/php checking if debug is enabled... no checking if zts is enabled... no checking for re2c... no configure: WARNING: You will need re2c 0.13.4 or later if you want to = regenerate PHP parsers. checking for gawk... no checking for nawk... nawk checking if nawk is broken... no checking for QDBM support... no checking for GDBM support... no checking for NDBM support... no checking for Berkeley DB4 support... no checking for Berkeley DB3 support... no checking for Berkeley DB2 support... no checking for DB1 support... no checking for DBM support... no checking for CDB support... no checking for INI File support... no checking for FlatFile support... no checking whether to enable DBA interface... no checking for ld used by cc... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... yes checking how to recognize dependent libraries... pass_all checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking the maximum length of command line arguments... (cached) 262144 checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from cc object... ok checking for objdir... .libs checking for ar... ar checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for strip... strip checking if cc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no checking for cc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if cc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if cc static flag -static works... yes checking if cc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the cc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared = libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd7.4 ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... no creating libtool appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool checking whether the c++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared = libraries... yes checking for c++ option to produce PIC...=20 checking if c++ static flag works... yes checking if c++ supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the c++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared = libraries... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd7.4 ld.so (cached) (cached) checking how to hardcode library paths into = programs... unsupported shtool:mkdir:Error: invalid number of arguments (at least 1 expected) shtool:mkdir:Hint: run `./build/shtool mkdir -h' or `man shtool' for = details configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating config.h =3D=3D=3D> Building for php5-dba-5.3.8 Build complete. Don't forget to run 'make test'. =3D=3D=3D> Installing for php5-dba-5.3.8 =3D=3D=3D> php5-dba-5.3.8 depends on file: = /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list =3D=3D=3D> Checking if databases/php5-dba already installed install: = /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba/work/php-5.3.8/ext/dba/modules/dba.so: No = such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba. ?? Any clue ??=20 =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96= =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96 ---------> Gr=E9gory Bernard Director <--------- ---------------> www.osnet.eu <--------------- --> Your provider of OpenSource appliances <-- =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96= =96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96=96 OSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetO From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 17:29:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5367106566B for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from queueout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queueout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445D78FC0A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.4]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20111104162528.ZZDM12094.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:25:28 +0000 Received: from [94.168.169.90] (helo=mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RMMa8-0007gc-E9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:25:28 +0000 Received: from mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl ([fe80::79f1:f3c8:3aed:806c]) by mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl ([fe80::79f1:f3c8:3aed:806c%10]) with mapi; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:25:27 +0000 From: Graeme Dargie To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:25:26 +0000 Thread-Topic: removing directories Thread-Index: AcybDgQkpan8PP6qT9aCsKSOXOxOpw== Message-ID: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B5239647FE05@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JvdXmxIgLJv2/GthKqHpGJEEHukvLcvELVXUanXFreg= c=1 sm=0 a=OMdUhd4NiskA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=WsXWljYOrr0vULqpuGYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=MLTEoFnuY3fgLCrUN3kA:9 a=YNMqcQ4VTIB50B6gU44A:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: removing directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:29:53 -0000 Ok this might be a bit of a newbie question but here goes. I have a large number of directories around 300 which all have sub dirs, s= ome of those have sub dirs in each of these there are two further sub dirs = called pages and thumbnails, is there an easy way to remove all the pages a= nd thumbnail dirs from the tree? Regards G From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 17:32:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F54106566C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA548FC0A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C43E278FF62; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:37:14 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JU1XZ6FruhoF; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:37:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.46.167] (173-160-104-249-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.160.104.249]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E0B9278FF60; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:37:01 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B5239647FE05@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:32:37 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3B4B42E9-6E69-4873-A333-13DCB8E9A842@d3photography.com> References: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B5239647FE05@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> To: Graeme Dargie X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: removing directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:32:52 -0000 Graeme, I don't have the answer, but I wanted to tell you it's not a n00b = question at all: The solution is a fairly complex (IMO) series of greps = and awks. Ones that I don't have the knowledge to do - and I am = definitely not a n00b. -- Ryan On Nov 4, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Graeme Dargie wrote: > Ok this might be a bit of a newbie question but here goes. >=20 > I have a large number of directories around 300 which all have sub = dirs, some of those have sub dirs in each of these there are two further = sub dirs called pages and thumbnails, is there an easy way to remove all = the pages and thumbnail dirs from the tree? >=20 > Regards >=20 > G > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 17:41:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58222106564A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjgonzale@estrads.com.ar) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01E7E8FC16 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21302 invoked by uid 0); 4 Nov 2011 17:41:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box511.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.111) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2011 17:41:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=estrads.com.ar; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=pPD9UZTiPoRcnbZW3dPvuy7QmGedkpDyvhbbGbEtmiA=; b=BbY0fcTQ5sana/Clieajr8vbTcMtdPP4Qxn0RnuGPratz0wj7HuSvKEDn+g1fBEPj00F4j7PqeAOpj0cuQnvSwuXAwNIl9G96NSp0I5L8W+veAh68MUHfKhmXqyBDdOJ; Received: from 20-72-231-201.fibertel.com.ar ([201.231.72.20] helo=rjgonzale-laptop.localdomain) by box511.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMNlr-0008Fw-Hn; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:41:39 -0600 Message-ID: <4EB423CD.6040702@estrads.com.ar> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:41:33 -0300 From: Rodrigo Gonzalez User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110930 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graeme Dargie References: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B5239647FE05@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> In-Reply-To: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B5239647FE05@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {32647:box511.bluehost.com:gonosade:estrads.com.ar} {sentby:smtp auth 201.231.72.20 authed with rjgonzale@estrads.com.ar} Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: removing directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:41:42 -0000 El 04/11/11 13:25, Graeme Dargie escribi: > Ok this might be a bit of a newbie question but here goes. > > I have a large number of directories around 300 which all have sub dirs, some of those have sub dirs in each of these there are two further sub dirs called pages and thumbnails, is there an easy way to remove all the pages and thumbnail dirs from the tree? > > Regards > > G > I dont know how to make in one command....but to delete thumbnails directories find . -type d -name thumbnails -exec rm -rf {} \; You can do the same for the pages directories To test what you will delete please run find . -type d -name thumbnails -print and see that it is correct From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 17:45:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03FF1065674 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608E08FC1A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:45:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E0F278FF65 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:50:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1Y33rhH5pxkM for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:49:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.46.167] (173-160-104-249-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.160.104.249]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A96A9278FF64 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:49:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Ryan Coleman Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:45:24 -0500 References: To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" Message-Id: <7ABED5D1-DD21-4399-88AF-7E824091ACCA@d3photography.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Fwd: removing directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:45:43 -0000 Begin forwarded message: > From: Michael Sierchio > Subject: Re: removing directories > Date: November 4, 2011 12:35:05 PM CDT > To: Ryan Coleman >=20 > man find >=20 > you can search on name (or extension) or size, or... >=20 > (assuming by pages you mean HTML or some such, and by thumbnails you > mean small images. >=20 > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Ryan Coleman = wrote: >> Graeme, >>=20 >> I don't have the answer, but I wanted to tell you it's not a n00b = question at all: The solution is a fairly complex (IMO) series of greps = and awks. Ones that I don't have the knowledge to do - and I am = definitely not a n00b. >>=20 >> -- >> Ryan >>=20 >> On Nov 4, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Graeme Dargie wrote: >>=20 >>> Ok this might be a bit of a newbie question but here goes. >>>=20 >>> I have a large number of directories around 300 which all have sub = dirs, some of those have sub dirs in each of these there are two further = sub dirs called pages and thumbnails, is there an easy way to remove all = the pages and thumbnail dirs from the tree? >>>=20 >>> Regards >>>=20 >>> G >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 18:03:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B76106566C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599D18FC0C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.91]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EC33B16B4C7; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 13:03:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 13:03:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 13:03:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup.com To: Graeme Dargie In-Reply-To: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B5239647FE05@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> Message-ID: References: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B5239647FE05@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: removing directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:03:38 -0000 On Fri, 4 Nov 2011, Graeme Dargie wrote: > Ok this might be a bit of a newbie question but here goes. > > I have a large number of directories around 300 which all have sub dirs, > some of those have sub dirs in each of these there are two further sub > dirs called pages and thumbnails, is there an easy way to remove all the > pages and thumbnail dirs from the tree? the easiest way to remove one directory and all of its contents including subdirectories and their contents is rm -r dirname if you put the trailing slash in rm -r dirname/ you will remove the contents but not the directory itself. To remove 300 will still be a considerable task if you cannot find a way to get at the only ones you want to remove. See man [ for ideas on how to test for the existence of pages/ and thumbnail/ subdirectories. This could be the basis of a shell script for identifying and removing the directories you want to target. If there is relatively litte stuff in the parent directory that you want to save, it may be easier to remove the stuff you want to save to a safe place, remove the contents of the parent directory, and move the saved stuff back. Backing up everything before you start is a really good idea even if you are a shell script wizard. > > Regards > > G > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 18:09:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3FE106564A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C748FC13 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA4I8rDX019604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:08:54 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pA4I8rDX019604 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1320430134; bh=a9WRIeHlV41g77dxX8We8raqzcLpauRpKZFgTasJBWs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=xXjwwn/t2g8trS/MRHS/4qcviMRZg/VlwRGudb7iJNS1zfViFDP6POyh00E7Akp2r a9Nh8erffrl05/hjLaZbkTuNHbEYeCIRJZiQUiRXEYLE1jVTI6EBHlvoAKU2Ch+o0k AIgYWZ3/Huh+8G/txUReNdXtsbeFdFNYXsGjRufc= Message-ID: <4EB42A2C.2030704@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:08:44 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rodrigo Gonzalez References: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B5239647FE05@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> <4EB423CD.6040702@estrads.com.ar> In-Reply-To: <4EB423CD.6040702@estrads.com.ar> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA964D57777CBEE52CA92D859" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Graeme Dargie Subject: Re: removing directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:09:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA964D57777CBEE52CA92D859 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/11/2011 17:41, Rodrigo Gonzalez wrote: > El 04/11/11 13:25, Graeme Dargie escribi=F3: >> Ok this might be a bit of a newbie question but here goes. >> >> I have a large number of directories around 300 which all have sub >> dirs, some of those have sub dirs in each of these there are two >> further sub dirs called pages and thumbnails, is there an easy way to >> remove all the pages and thumbnail dirs from the tree? >> >> Regards >> >> G >> > I dont know how to make in one command....but to delete thumbnails > directories >=20 > find . -type d -name thumbnails -exec rm -rf {} \; >=20 > You can do the same for the pages directories >=20 > To test what you will delete please run >=20 > find . -type d -name thumbnails -print >=20 > and see that it is correct In one command: find . -depth 3 -type d \( -name pages -o -name thumbnails \) \ -exec rm -rf '{}' + The '-depth 3' bit avoids deleting any pages or thumbnails directories higher up the tree, assuming that any such exist. Leave it out if that isn't a concern. Use -print as Rodrigo suggests to avoid foot-shooting scenarios... 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[93.127.96.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p14sm17923318faf.20.2011.11.04.11.52.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:52:18 +0200 From: Alexander Kapshuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111014 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:52:50 -0000 i'm based in ukraine. on 29 Oct 2011 ukraine went to winter time, i.e. we put our clocks one hour back. the current time in ukraine is 8.49 pm; the output of 'date' is: :; date Fri Nov 4 22:49:48 FET 2011 i tried resetting my timezone via 'sysinstall', but to no avail. do i use 'date' to set my system time to the right time, or is there a better way of doing it? :; uname -a FreeBSD localhost 9.0-RC1 FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 #0: Tue Oct 18 18:30:38 UTC 2011 root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 thanks. sasha. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 19:44:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30A9106566C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 19:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7273C8FC1A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 19:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3CE3C809C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 15:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7475 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2011 19:43:59 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 20851, pid: 21393, t: 0.1551s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Nov 2011 19:43:58 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id EEB8E2E0EA; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 15:43:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Alexander Kapshuk References: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:43:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> (Alexander Kapshuk's message of "Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:52:18 +0200") Message-ID: <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:44:00 -0000 Alexander Kapshuk writes: > i'm based in ukraine. on 29 Oct 2011 ukraine went to winter time, > i.e. we put our clocks one hour back. > > the current time in ukraine is 8.49 pm; the output of 'date' is: > > :; date > Fri Nov 4 22:49:48 FET 2011 > > i tried resetting my timezone via 'sysinstall', but to no avail. > > do i use 'date' to set my system time to the right time, or is there a > better way of doing it? > > :; uname -a > FreeBSD localhost 9.0-RC1 FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 #0: Tue Oct 18 18:30:38 UTC > 2011 root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I think that your government changed its mind about staying on standard time this year, but only did so at the last minute. So you probably have an outdated timezone file. That would lead the computer to be one hour late rather than two, but it's probably a change you need to make. Also check the system's time in UTC to see whether the clock itself is off. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 19:53:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53555106564A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 19:53:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fidaj@ukr.net) Received: from fsm1.ukr.net (fsm1.ukr.net [195.214.192.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092E88FC0A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 19:53:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=fsm; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=HWcBi5LJ3o+qilG3kppdOUp9O52zsT0AaZC9WnlJjuo=; b=sIS+1OdHgRYCWC+ZphimhzXXj8j6jegYzJRmomO8qaCH9oWRWgqbXHJZYCs1xSrhsR2fGFLcVeSn8gfgalfY0aOpVCq0X7meIw4xxVB/5nlwaguZ4DuEDdBe0oLk6vcg5p6LDVWz5qcUHHfe80zDoIASrGc/Z/1NbjjVfGG6/OI=; Received: from [81.23.24.116] (helo=nonamehost.) by fsm1.ukr.net with esmtpsa ID 1RMPpr-000MAp-Bt ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:53:56 +0200 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:53:21 +0200 From: Ivan Klymenko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111104215321.5f9ca2eb@nonamehost.> In-Reply-To: <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org, Alexander Kapshuk Subject: Re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:53:58 -0000 =D0=92 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:43:57 -0400 Lowell Gilbert =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88= =D0=B5=D1=82: > Alexander Kapshuk writes: >=20 > > i'm based in ukraine. on 29 Oct 2011 ukraine went to winter time, > > i.e. we put our clocks one hour back. > > > > the current time in ukraine is 8.49 pm; the output of 'date' is: > > > > :; date > > Fri Nov 4 22:49:48 FET 2011 > > > > i tried resetting my timezone via 'sysinstall', but to no avail. > > > > do i use 'date' to set my system time to the right time, or is > > there a better way of doing it? > > > > :; uname -a > > FreeBSD localhost 9.0-RC1 FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 #0: Tue Oct 18 18:30:38 > > UTC 2011 > > root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >=20 > I think that your government changed its mind about staying on > standard time this year, but only did so at the last minute. So you > probably have an outdated timezone file. That would lead the > computer to be one hour late rather than two, but it's probably a > change you need to make. Also check the system's time in UTC to see > whether the clock itself is off. run tzsetup... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 19:55:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21495106566B for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 19:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63C88FC08 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 19:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.182] (host86-164-208-209.range86-164.btcentralplus.com [86.164.208.209]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA4JtXuu082136 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 19:55:34 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4EB44336.2090006@ifdnrg.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:55:34 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110804 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Fwd: Re: removing directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:55:37 -0000 > Ok this might be a bit of a newbie question but here goes. > > I have a large number of directories around 300 which all have sub dirs, some of those have sub dirs in each of these there are two further sub dirs called pages and thumbnails, is there an easy way to remove all the pages and thumbnail dirs from the tree? > whilst there's been posts listing magic one liners which'd do this, i think this is a prime example of where i'd use a scripting language (perl/php whatever) to either do the deletes or to output shell commands which can be previewed/piped to a shell script. i love the one liners, but you don't want them to be 'one-chancers'! will keep my eye on the dundee utd sites for 404's :) Paul. > G > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 20:08:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0CB106566C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6128FC0A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pA4K7Qk5028125; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 15:07:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 15:07:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201111042007.pA4K7Qk5028125@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: arab@tangerine-army.co.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B5239647FE05@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> Cc: Subject: Re: removing directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:08:07 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 4 12:30:00 2011 > From: Graeme Dargie > To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:25:26 +0000 > Subject: removing directories > > Ok this might be a bit of a newbie question but here goes. > > I have a large number of directories around 300 which all have sub dirs, so > me of those have sub dirs in each of these there are two further sub dirs ca > lled pages and thumbnails, is there an easy way to remove all the pages and > thumbnail dirs from the tree? Note: _please_ hit the enter key at around column 72, not all mail clients do smart word-wrap, when confronted with long lines. There are a number of ways to approach this problem. *IF* the 'pages' and 'thumbnails' directories are a 'fixed' number of levels down from the directory containing those 'around 300' directories, you can use simple wildcards -- e.g. something like 'rm -fr */*/*/pages'. A more general approach is to use find(1), something like: find . -type d ( -name pages -or -name thumbnails ) -delete or (if the above complains about 'non-empty' directories find . -type d ( -name pages -or -name thumbnails ) -exec rm -fr {} \; BEWARE: the parens may need to be quoted, to prevent the shell from giving them special meaning. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 20:15:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBF01065672 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063B78FC17 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCEAA71C13 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21150 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2011 20:15:52 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 7873, pid: 22542, t: 0.1755s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Nov 2011 20:15:52 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B4C322E0EA; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:15:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Ivan Klymenko References: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111104215321.5f9ca2eb@nonamehost.> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:15:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20111104215321.5f9ca2eb@nonamehost.> (Ivan Klymenko's message of "Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:53:21 +0200") Message-ID: <44r51nbq4p.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Alexander Kapshuk Subject: Re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:15:54 -0000 Ivan Klymenko writes: > =A7=A3 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:43:57 -0400 > Lowell Gilbert =A7=E1=A7=DA=A7= =EA=A7=D6=A7=E4: > >> Alexander Kapshuk writes: >>=20 >> > i'm based in ukraine. on 29 Oct 2011 ukraine went to winter time, >> > i.e. we put our clocks one hour back. >> > >> > the current time in ukraine is 8.49 pm; the output of 'date' is: >> > >> > :; date >> > Fri Nov 4 22:49:48 FET 2011 >> > >> > i tried resetting my timezone via 'sysinstall', but to no avail. >> > >> > do i use 'date' to set my system time to the right time, or is >> > there a better way of doing it? >> > >> > :; uname -a >> > FreeBSD localhost 9.0-RC1 FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 #0: Tue Oct 18 18:30:38 >> > UTC 2011 >> > root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >>=20 >> I think that your government changed its mind about staying on >> standard time this year, but only did so at the last minute. So you >> probably have an outdated timezone file. That would lead the >> computer to be one hour late rather than two, but it's probably a >> change you need to make. Also check the system's time in UTC to see >> whether the clock itself is off. > > run tzsetup... He already did that, using sysinstall. You can tell that he did it correctly because his date(1) output says "FET" which is the correct time zone for him. His time zone file is, almost certainly, too old, and will remain so no matter how many times he reinstalls it. I think the decision to change the rules was only made about two weeks ago, and the updated time zone file couldn't have been available until after that. I believe the updated tzdata files were brought into the tree on October 25. 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[93.127.96.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f4sm9915033faj.1.2011.11.04.13.23.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 13:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB457C1.2070607@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:23:13 +0200 From: Alexander Kapshuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111014 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert References: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111104215321.5f9ca2eb@nonamehost.> <44r51nbq4p.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44r51nbq4p.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Ivan Klymenko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:23:44 -0000 On 11/04/11 22:15, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Ivan Klymenko writes: > >> Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:43:57 -0400 >> Lowell Gilbert ڧ֧: >> >>> Alexander Kapshuk writes: >>> >>>> i'm based in ukraine. on 29 Oct 2011 ukraine went to winter time, >>>> i.e. we put our clocks one hour back. >>>> >>>> the current time in ukraine is 8.49 pm; the output of 'date' is: >>>> >>>> :; date >>>> Fri Nov 4 22:49:48 FET 2011 >>>> >>>> i tried resetting my timezone via 'sysinstall', but to no avail. >>>> >>>> do i use 'date' to set my system time to the right time, or is >>>> there a better way of doing it? >>>> >>>> :; uname -a >>>> FreeBSD localhost 9.0-RC1 FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 #0: Tue Oct 18 18:30:38 >>>> UTC 2011 >>>> root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >>> I think that your government changed its mind about staying on >>> standard time this year, but only did so at the last minute. So you >>> probably have an outdated timezone file. That would lead the >>> computer to be one hour late rather than two, but it's probably a >>> change you need to make. Also check the system's time in UTC to see >>> whether the clock itself is off. >> run tzsetup... > He already did that, using sysinstall. You can tell that he did it > correctly because his date(1) output says "FET" which is the correct > time zone for him. His time zone file is, almost certainly, too old, > and will remain so no matter how many times he reinstalls it. I think > the decision to change the rules was only made about two weeks ago, and > the updated time zone file couldn't have been available until after > that. I believe the updated tzdata files were brought into the tree on > October 25. thank you all for replying to my email. here's what i tried after reading your replies: tzsetup /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Kiev tzsetup -r didn't help. i believe that sysinstall calls tzsetup as well, but i thought i'd try Ivan's suggestion anyway. here's the output of 'date' i get now: Sat Nov 5 00:21:52 FET 2011 the actual current time is 10.21 pm. any idea when an updated time zone file will become available? thanks. sasha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 20:46:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A3A1065670 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D0F8FC17 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D679CA7021C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31320 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2011 20:46:21 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 21835, pid: 29902, t: 0.1487s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Nov 2011 20:46:20 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 4D4952E0EA; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:46:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Alexander Kapshuk References: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111104215321.5f9ca2eb@nonamehost.> <44r51nbq4p.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB457C1.2070607@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:46:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4EB457C1.2070607@gmail.com> (Alexander Kapshuk's message of "Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:23:13 +0200") Message-ID: <44lirvbopw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:46:22 -0000 Alexander Kapshuk writes: > the actual current time is 10.21 pm. Your system's clock may be off as well... > any idea when an updated time zone file will become available? It's already in the FreeBSD tree: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/contrib/tzdata/europe?rev=1.7.2.2;content-type=text%2Fplain To install it, you'll need something like # zic europe (where "europe" is the file from the URL above) and then tzsetup(8) should install the correct information. Or you could update your system to anything after October 26. 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[93.127.96.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l26sm18626156fad.17.2011.11.04.15.00.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB46E5C.2000107@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 00:59:40 +0200 From: Alexander Kapshuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111014 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111104215321.5f9ca2eb@nonamehost.> <44r51nbq4p.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB457C1.2070607@gmail.com> <44lirvbopw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44lirvbopw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:00:10 -0000 On 11/04/11 22:46, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Alexander Kapshuk writes: > >> the actual current time is 10.21 pm. > Your system's clock may be off as well... > >> any idea when an updated time zone file will become available? > It's already in the FreeBSD tree: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/contrib/tzdata/europe?rev=1.7.2.2;content-type=text%2Fplain > > To install it, you'll need something like > # zic europe > (where "europe" is the file from the URL above) > and then tzsetup(8) should install the correct information. > > Or you could update your system to anything after October 26. thanks. here's what i did based on my understanding of the instructions given above: # cd $HOME # fetch -o europe http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/contrib/tzdata/europe?rev=1.7.2.2;content-type=text%2Fplain # zic europe # tzsetup -r :; date Sat Nov 5 00:54:32 EET 2011 the timezone did change from 'FET' to 'EET', but the time is still wrong by being 1 hour ahead of the actual ukraine time. another thing i tried, which didn't seem to help was set these environment variables in my /etc/rc.conf: (as suggested here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10276 [post # 6]) ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpdate_flags="-u -b" ntpdate_hosts="ua.pool.ntp.org" i must be doing something wrong. just don't know what is it. can anyone please suggest what it is i should be doing? thanks. sasha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 22:34:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C370C1065674 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9538FC1A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobile-166-137-136-008.mycingular.net ([166.137.136.8] helo=[10.93.172.149]) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RMS3E-0006JM-Em; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:15:52 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 166.137.136.8 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1/tuGwy1ItwUltDF9RDqXwiFHylvg5rej8= References: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111104215321.5f9ca2eb@nonamehost.> <44r51nbq4p.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB457C1.2070607@gmail.com> <44lirvbopw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB46E5C.2000107@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EB46E5C.2000107@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A334) From: Tim Kellers Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:15:43 -0400 To: Alexander Kapshuk Cc: Lowell Gilbert , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:34:04 -0000 On Nov 4, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Alexander Kapshuk w= rote: > On 11/04/11 22:46, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Alexander Kapshuk writes: >>=20 >>> the actual current time is 10.21 pm. >> Your system's clock may be off as well... >>=20 >>> any idea when an updated time zone file will become available? >> It's already in the FreeBSD tree: >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/contrib/tzdata/europ= e?rev=3D1.7.2.2;content-type=3Dtext%2Fplain >>=20 >> To install it, you'll need something like >> # zic europe >> (where "europe" is the file from the URL above) >> and then tzsetup(8) should install the correct information. >>=20 >> Or you could update your system to anything after October 26. > thanks. >=20 > here's what i did based on my understanding of the instructions given abov= e: > # cd $HOME > # fetch -o europe http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/con= trib/tzdata/europe?rev=3D1.7.2.2;content-type=3Dtext%2Fplain > # zic europe > # tzsetup -r >=20 > :; date > Sat Nov 5 00:54:32 EET 2011 >=20 > the timezone did change from 'FET' to 'EET', but the time is still wrong b= y being 1 hour ahead of the actual ukraine time. >=20 > another thing i tried, which didn't seem to help was set these environment= variables in my /etc/rc.conf: > (as suggested here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D10276 [po= st # 6]) >=20 > ntpdate_enable=3D"YES" > ntpdate_flags=3D"-u -b" > ntpdate_hosts=3D"ua.pool.ntp.org" >=20 >=20 > i must be doing something wrong. just don't know what is it. >=20 > can anyone please suggest what it is i should be doing? >=20 > thanks. >=20 > sasha >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" >=20 Try a different time server run directly from tithe command line as root: #ntpdate time.apple.com=20 And see if that changes the date result. Tim= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 22:55:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34009106564A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2798FC0C for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2988DA71949 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28321 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2011 22:55:40 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 7714, pid: 27241, t: 0.1925s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Nov 2011 22:55:40 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403F42E0CE; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:55:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C2FDA3983C; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:55:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Alexander Kapshuk References: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111104215321.5f9ca2eb@nonamehost.> <44r51nbq4p.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB457C1.2070607@gmail.com> <44lirvbopw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB46E5C.2000107@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:55:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4EB46E5C.2000107@gmail.com> (Alexander Kapshuk's message of "Sat, 05 Nov 2011 00:59:40 +0200") Message-ID: <44bosro5uj.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:55:42 -0000 Alexander Kapshuk writes: > On 11/04/11 22:46, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Alexander Kapshuk writes: >> >>> the actual current time is 10.21 pm. >> Your system's clock may be off as well... >> >>> any idea when an updated time zone file will become available? >> It's already in the FreeBSD tree: >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/contrib/tzdata/europe?rev=1.7.2.2;content-type=text%2Fplain >> >> To install it, you'll need something like >> # zic europe >> (where "europe" is the file from the URL above) >> and then tzsetup(8) should install the correct information. >> >> Or you could update your system to anything after October 26. > thanks. > > here's what i did based on my understanding of the instructions given above: > # cd $HOME > # fetch -o europe > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/contrib/tzdata/europe?rev=1.7.2.2;content-type=text%2Fplain > # zic europe > # tzsetup -r > > :; date > Sat Nov 5 00:54:32 EET 2011 > > the timezone did change from 'FET' to 'EET', but the time is still > wrong by being 1 hour ahead of the actual ukraine time. > > another thing i tried, which didn't seem to help was set these > environment variables in my /etc/rc.conf: > (as suggested here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10276 > [post # 6]) > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > ntpdate_flags="-u -b" > ntpdate_hosts="ua.pool.ntp.org" That will only do anything at startup. To do the same thing without needing to reboot, the command line would be # ntpdate -u -b ua.pool.ntp.org > i must be doing something wrong. just don't know what is it. > > can anyone please suggest what it is i should be doing? Well, start with what I suggested a while back: try "date -u" and see whether that is the correct UTC time. If not, the ntpdate command will solve you problems. If it is, there's still something else wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 00:55:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344A3106566B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 00:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f45.google.com (mail-vw0-f45.google.com [209.85.212.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84128FC08 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 00:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so3488411vws.18 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:55:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=5xWShLOzEhHmE4ekesihfX+0o60AllwPP4kq1oEjkhA=; b=I3PYb04hmpeimfauF25PGRv7a+tg1vGqpW37/qXFibhDkOnnIQbW6suu7VHc1NmIax j5KdBuUItl8s0b+tjrTdM2YeM/8aTyMZBzOsLTDJCEaMcngGSvABX6Klz18Lp8Ea9kTU 6iks6GEFbYNEsuiYks6AklaDStN+crtMx6WbQ= Received: by 10.52.67.144 with SMTP id n16mr16895951vdt.108.1320454509221; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p2sm16384833vdi.22.2011.11.04.17.55.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:55:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) Message-Id: <50D1B3A8-E151-4C47-B0E7-CE1D4F1F28AC@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:55:03 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Cc: Subject: Problem with mergemaster-p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 00:55:10 -0000 I'm trying to upgrade to 9.0 stable, but when I run "mergemaster-p" in singl= e mode, I get the following error message: *** Creating the temporary root environment in / var / tmp / temproot mkdir / var / tmp / temproot: Read-only file system *** FATAL ERROR: Can not create / var / tmp / temproot Zantgo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 01:11:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942C7106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:11:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4328FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:11:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD7421E71; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:11:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pA51BboX004415; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:11:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:11:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Zantgo Message-Id: <20111105021137.2c15bf84.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <50D1B3A8-E151-4C47-B0E7-CE1D4F1F28AC@gmail.com> References: <50D1B3A8-E151-4C47-B0E7-CE1D4F1F28AC@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with mergemaster-p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:11:40 -0000 On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:55:03 -0300, Zantgo wrote: > I'm trying to upgrade to 9.0 stable, but when I run "mergemaster-p" in single mode, I get the following error message: > > *** Creating the temporary root environment in / var / tmp / temproot > mkdir / var / tmp / temproot: Read-only file system > > *** FATAL ERROR: Can not create / var / tmp / temproot According to the handbook and the comment header of /usr/src/Makefile, after you've booted into single user mode, run "fsck", then "mount -a", and all partitions should be mounted rw. You can check this using the "mount -v" command. (Of course this depends on the partitioning scheme you're using.) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 01:14:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672A2106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7168FC16 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so2562138vcb.13 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:14:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=Jd3yhZp3SfeT66/sfSBBxKsaAGZKoW7gm9QkoQa8gkY=; b=Ib/CbssBxUpR10eHB0HQ7ERpz2dFi6vW9DOVqM4fcNU77pkM8U83BRRXplxaENoF+r 41NJ6+paC5QmrCiBQsCEZnGf9lN9h5Aqav04vXMVepN/BE75WMp8RKIMd1Bx1KEDywZn LVQTkvGGc78oe9CJhTj34rpLONLJx2Ftfe978= Received: by 10.52.92.145 with SMTP id cm17mr17180035vdb.31.1320455660349; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bx19sm16514221vdb.2.2011.11.04.18.14.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:14:19 -0700 (PDT) References: <50D1B3A8-E151-4C47-B0E7-CE1D4F1F28AC@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <50D1B3A8-E151-4C47-B0E7-CE1D4F1F28AC@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <4E4C00D7-1315-4BC5-BEDA-F30DB9A6C2DE@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:14:10 -0300 To: Zantgo Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Problem with mergemaster-p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:14:21 -0000 El 04-11-2011, a las 21:55, Zantgo escribi=C3=B3: > I'm trying to upgrade to 9.0 stable, but when I run "mergemaster-p" in sin= gle mode, I get the following error message: >=20 > *** Creating the temporary root environment in / var / tmp / temproot > mkdir / var / tmp / temproot: Read-only file system >=20 > *** FATAL ERROR: Can not create / var / tmp / temproot >=20 > Zantgo I have an other problem, when I key "make installworld", get this message: make: don't know how to make installworld. Stop= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 01:23:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6572C1065670 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:23:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A37A8FC12 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3A121B7C; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:23:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pA51Mx6H004465; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:22:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:22:59 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Zantgo Message-Id: <20111105022259.b663a21f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4E4C00D7-1315-4BC5-BEDA-F30DB9A6C2DE@gmail.com> References: <50D1B3A8-E151-4C47-B0E7-CE1D4F1F28AC@gmail.com> <4E4C00D7-1315-4BC5-BEDA-F30DB9A6C2DE@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Problem with mergemaster-p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:23:01 -0000 On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:14:10 -0300, Zantgo wrote: > I have an other problem, when I key "make installworld", get this message: > make: don't know how to make installworld. Stop Please read the instructions in the Handbook, or refer to the comment header in /usr/src/Makefile. 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). 2. `make buildworld' 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). 6. `mergemaster -p' 7. `make installworld' 8. `make delete-old' 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F). 10. `reboot' 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) Make sure you also do step 1 when calling mergemaster and make: # cd /usr/src # mergemaster -p # make installworld # make delete-old # mergemaster Then reboot into the new OS version. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 01:33:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDB1106566C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA208FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so2571473vcb.13 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=f+QcTkRog2tDfyhY2YEXSjMfNonYmaCLjAxOVidy0fQ=; b=c66+sjdincmyYc1q+DTq76WyF0HIX4ejS31jeobx2W21TqYfVZHeiUdE6Dms65VJlA Kn+5qutA/eP3Me2un1Gs5QucSd4UdtnHua7O/38sbGbml+qdPF078zXRQyKgHmyUKVeY nzBg7wphjg9mQT1CphS/hrPeOB6AQtniDcMzc= Received: by 10.220.153.137 with SMTP id k9mr1303859vcw.180.1320456799950; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id il5sm16580136vdb.7.2011.11.04.18.33.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 18:33:19 -0700 (PDT) References: <50D1B3A8-E151-4C47-B0E7-CE1D4F1F28AC@gmail.com> <4E4C00D7-1315-4BC5-BEDA-F30DB9A6C2DE@gmail.com> <20111105022259.b663a21f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111105022259.b663a21f.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:33:05 -0300 To: Polytropon Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Problem with mergemaster-p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:33:21 -0000 El 04-11-2011, a las 22:22, Polytropon escribi=C3=B3: > On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:14:10 -0300, Zantgo wrote: >> I have an other problem, when I key "make installworld", get this message= : >> make: don't know how to make installworld. Stop >=20 > Please read the instructions in the Handbook, or refer > to the comment header in /usr/src/Makefile. >=20 > 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree).= > 2. `make buildworld' > 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DYOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC= ). > 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=3DYOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC= ). > [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] > 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt).= > 6. `mergemaster -p' > 7. `make installworld' > 8. `make delete-old' > 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -i, along with -U or -F)= . > 10. `reboot' > 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymor= e) >=20 > Make sure you also do step 1 when calling mergemaster > and make: >=20 > # cd /usr/src > # mergemaster -p > # make installworld > # make delete-old > # mergemaster >=20 > Then reboot into the new OS version. >=20 >=20 Yeah!!. Thanks!, forgot to be in / usr / src. > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 01:07:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDFD1065673 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaretbartsch@yahoo.ca) Received: from nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.53.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D6758FC16 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.52.194] by nm11.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2011 00:54:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.151] by tm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2011 00:54:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2011 00:54:15 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 195891.9440.bm@omp1034.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 10369 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2011 00:54:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1320454454; bh=axY6IEfpcq1oyZ4XLaPMIs3DkajjUbY3fVu2YFzqEqs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mPd1Y8RyhlKQwLVHXVG/zCsoeTpxn7Kf7OitmI4Pk820lf3zIi04zsaTYhaQ+Xc2XSdBWnz30r4hkSbpX2/7RhmKaQYEnMCVRKRT2oOWMt+1K4nnj7OPUx+yleanW8FWoalxAF2xnz5URiCUtz/Xb+cBcp+3OwJsbzKUg7DGBTY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RXUa5RD6ZToTPD51Ltd29AI11p90I2C5j8pABfPRcOVRyYhlJ9q5soVmNnY4QtRWM9LYE6LMDqxA4ZU2E7n6BS0iaN2PcB06q813eegJOOjrS+VK3VCPpd9TS89k9LJIoC6dV8I90EOmnXuEGUCXuV2/DhsM+dcDTEV7ExrzhwQ=; X-YMail-OSG: ASS6oBkVM1kRPmepzmGy0Xb8oFWKWawVWvsm2MkLfavwvck HURQ- Received: from [70.77.108.234] by web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:54:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 Message-ID: <1320454453.10180.YahooMailNeo@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:54:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaret Bartsch To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:55:35 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Security Advisory Notice True? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jaret Bartsch List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:07:23 -0000 Dear FreeBSD representative, I discovered a security advisory published by the Security Focus team. Is this in fact true? Below is a link to the source. http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/520390/30/0/threaded Regards, Jaret From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 01:56:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5591D1065675 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B438FC15 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111105015559.YSIG3808.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo210.cox.net>; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:55:59 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo210.cox.net with bizsmtp id tDvy1h00155wwzE02Dvy3V; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:55:58 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.4EB497AE.006C,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=eb/7hJztr6wcfnZUCQTvufzf64xQ9JX7XTLFvRhqo6c= c=1 sm=1 a=Rvd6eg7oGOIA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=sIMEUL0gwJZiMQzoxHYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA51tvpR078621; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:55:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:55:52 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Zantgo Message-ID: <20111104205552.2fcd8771@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <4E4C00D7-1315-4BC5-BEDA-F30DB9A6C2DE@gmail.com> References: <50D1B3A8-E151-4C47-B0E7-CE1D4F1F28AC@gmail.com> <4E4C00D7-1315-4BC5-BEDA-F30DB9A6C2DE@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Problem with mergemaster-p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:56:05 -0000 On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:14:10 -0300 Zantgo wrote: >=20 >=20 > El 04-11-2011, a las 21:55, Zantgo escribi=F3: >=20 > > I'm trying to upgrade to 9.0 stable, but when I run "mergemaster-p" > > in single mode, I get the following error message: > >=20 > > *** Creating the temporary root environment in / var / tmp / > > temproot mkdir / var / tmp / temproot: Read-only file system > >=20 > > *** FATAL ERROR: Can not create / var / tmp / temproot Before you do anything else, you need to make sure all of your mounted partitions are not in read-only mode. The way I do this is: 1) Boot into single-user mode 2) mount -u / 3) mount -a The "mount -u /" command changes the root partition from read-only (the default mode when you boot single-user) to read-write. The "mount -a" command, of course, mounts all of your partitions. By the way, there's no reason to insert those spaces in your pathnames when you post (like "/ var / tmp / temproot")? Please don't. --=20 Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 02:07:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045C11065689 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBE18FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111105020744.DLXC3804.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net>; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:07:44 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp id tE7k1h00755wwzE02E7kjy; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:07:44 -0400 X-CT-Class: Bulk X-CT-Score: 5.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020207.4EB49A70.0068,ss=3,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=sGR9G2hYIFXa2xB4aZiX1SVRJ2zjCAfsdSGqvGTS29E= c=1 sm=1 a=Rvd6eg7oGOIA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=tgWCBTDUQmegRC_7s78A:9 a=0CCBsxZ04ZYSnFfsDwgA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA527hcs078680; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:07:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:07:38 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Zantgo Message-ID: <20111104210738.6ab7fb83@cox.net> In-Reply-To: References: <50D1B3A8-E151-4C47-B0E7-CE1D4F1F28AC@gmail.com> <4E4C00D7-1315-4BC5-BEDA-F30DB9A6C2DE@gmail.com> <20111105022259.b663a21f.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Problem with mergemaster-p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:07:51 -0000 On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:33:05 -0300 Zantgo wrote: > Yeah!!. Thanks!, forgot to be in / usr / src. (please don't insert spaces into pathnames; there's simply no earthly reason for doing so, and besides that, an inadvertently place space in certain commands can be disastrous, e.g., "rm -rf / some-dir" will delete your entire root partition!) As a footnote to the above: /usr/src/Makefile is a very handy reference when you're performing a system upgrade. You don't need any special tools to access it, so it's readily available to look at even in single-user mode. cd /usr/src more Makefile (scroll down a bit for the list of steps that need to be performed) But it sounds to me like you need to go back and read the Handbook some more. Not realizing you need to cd to /usr/src before performing a "make installworld" would seem to indicate that you need to familiarize yourself more with the procedure and improve your understanding of what's actually going on. In addition, for the same reason that /usr/src/Makefile makes a handy reference guide while performing system upgrades, it's also a good idea to have a text-based HTML browser installed (such as lynx or links, for example), in case you want to refer to the Handbook or other HTML-based documentation while the GUI is unavailable. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 02:24:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD52106566B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02C78FC0A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so2597660vcb.13 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:24:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=yZHeBFOMH5BZsq1mRoXGmsTeB0upnoYr1CxUf7Kb8lI=; b=NpdHyeMF2k1jb+dG4aWWe1ABnJaXhEDbMgD/HlGDuhFKo1vBRg1hKU5atkqGEhOKyR uhwfPjgWLwbdM4W7MtUxhJgupABmOT9IScc+8C2srDV6DBuFc5+1C8oDKhCWiRKslV+S awwaK8zaFgBPTKVWTqZGVxfzObHUEYuxv8eXY= Received: by 10.220.229.138 with SMTP id ji10mr779480vcb.152.1320459878072; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id il5sm16783246vdb.7.2011.11.04.19.24.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:24:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 23:24:37 -0300 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:24:39 -0000 It turns out that I have downloaded FreeBSD 8.2-stable as the repository, so= I guess you no longer need to update the ports and src, as you would a regu= lar basis, the problem is that I have not found such a manual on the web, so= how are regular updates in-STABLE?, just download everything from cvsup and= ready?, will not have to do the same thing to convert releases in stable ri= ght?, because I mean regular updates. Zantgo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 02:34:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05453106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7738FC13 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pA52XKae030087; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:33:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:33:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201111050233.pA52XKae030087@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, zantgo@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <50D1B3A8-E151-4C47-B0E7-CE1D4F1F28AC@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Problem with mergemaster-p X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:34:01 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 4 19:55:44 2011 > From: Zantgo > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:55:03 -0300 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: > Subject: Problem with mergemaster-p > > I'm trying to upgrade to 9.0 stable, but when I run "mergemaster-p" in single mode, I get the following error message: > > *** Creating the temporary root environment in / var / tmp / temproot > mkdir / var / tmp / temproot: Read-only file system > > *** FATAL ERROR: Can not create / var / tmp / temproot Exactly _what_ did yo do to get into single-user mode? Exactly _what_ did you do when in single-usermode *before* issuing the 'mergemaster-p' (sic) commnd? Did you read the _entire_ directions on how to do the upgrade? Do you know _which_ step(s) in the *documented* process you failed to perform, prior to running mergemaser-P'(sic) Did you have a _good_ reason for failing to follow those direcions? When you can elucidate reasonable answers to all of those questions, you will have taken the first steps on the path to enlightnment, grasshopper. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 04:32:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D50106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 04:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA2A8FC14 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 04:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2] (may be forged)) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA26138 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:32:48 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201111050432.WAA26138@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:18:16 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Memory error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:32:53 -0000 All: Just got these messages in the log after installing FreeBSD 9.0-RC1 on an older machine. The system hasn't shown any glitches or crashes, so the error wasn't fatal. I'm guessing that there was an error in cache memory that was corrected by ECC; is this correct? Nov 4 08:31:21 joe kernel: MCA: Bank 3, Status 0x900000000001010a Nov 4 08:31:21 joe kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0000000000000005, Status 0x0000000000000000 Nov 4 08:31:21 joe kernel: MCA: Vendor "GenuineIntel", ID 0x652, APIC ID 0 Nov 4 08:31:21 joe kernel: MCA: CPU 0 COR GCACHE L2 ERR error --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 06:17:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9F41065670 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nazir.haron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2AA8FC1D for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iabz21 with SMTP id z21so5382943iab.13 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:17:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=zYQwBZsw68nqyNiozDv5XUo9MEVwXI3S054hwOaIorE=; b=lgF96LWMI932kwz/nl2WhhQMBChw6pV4r9KaWOzS1OQdN99aNJWH2wpQhYs2AxZyRA 1A6MJvvkc9M2PFZJPnl7DcH544+UN24DsM2UpZ4IW+wpw1pkpFTGsC87q1QCQIMXWUCt Z0iz/CGv2Bbu4XxArQHOYiwiC5VM2irs9qUPg= Received: by 10.42.163.8 with SMTP id a8mr21789018icy.57.1320472483195; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.167.70.70] ([203.82.87.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c3sm15814460pbt.12.2011.11.04.22.54.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:54:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Nazir Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:55:43 +0800 To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Cc: Subject: How to enable PAE in freebsd 8.0 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 06:17:24 -0000 Hi, I'm just to know how to / step / the best practice recompile kernel with PAE= support in freebsd 8.0 i386 Ahmad Nazir b Haron Pusat Teknologi Maklumat Universiti Malaysia Terengganu= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 06:23:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013FD106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961F38FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo110.cox.net ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111105062323.HPGG3769.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:23:23 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo110.cox.net with bizsmtp id tJPN1h00A55wwzE02JPPpB; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:23:23 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.4EB4D65B.0080,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=uJ/qTlwYUPBYhdejbfpiXZ084Nq1odojvP+g2rDuwMA= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=12jB9hx6FKpUPdMV6xMA:9 a=FoOfIUPLVsriTyRRYIwA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA56NMKx062471; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:23:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:23:17 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Zantgo Message-ID: <20111105012317.065c6b6f@cox.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 06:23:25 -0000 On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 23:24:37 -0300 Zantgo wrote: > It turns out that I have downloaded FreeBSD 8.2-stable as the > repository, Do you mean you csupped the CVS repository? > so I guess you no longer need to update the ports and > src, as you would a regular basis, If I'm understanding your question correctly, you've csupped the CVS repository (are you sure you meant to do this?), and would like to know whether or not it's still necessary to update your ports and src trees. The answer is: of course it's necessary! How else would you keep your ports and src trees up to date? The CVS repository and your src/ports trees are not the same thing. The repository is the source from which you can update your src/ports trees. The difference is that, if you're maintaining a local copy of the CVS repository, then you would update your ports and src trees from the local CVS repo using cvs instead of csup. Somehow, I don't think you meant to grab the CVS repo. Sounds to me like you used the cvs-supfile by mistake. You *really* need to read the documentation more carefully. Everything you've been asking about recently is already explained in the Handbook. > the problem is that I have not > found such a manual on the web, so how are regular updates > in-STABLE?, just download everything from cvsup and ready?, will not > have to do the same thing to convert releases in stable right?, > because I mean regular updates. Your questions are not at all clear. Please be more precise about what you're asking. No one can help you if they can't even understand what it is you're asking for help with. Again, go back and read the Handbook sections on using csup, updating your src and ports trees, etc. No one is interested in repeating information that is already available in a complete and detailed form. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 06:35:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EDA106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158578FC12 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111105063517.HTBE3788.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net>; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:35:17 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp id tJbG1h00655wwzE02JbGw3; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:35:16 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.4EB4D925.0001,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=sGR9G2hYIFXa2xB4aZiX1SVRJ2zjCAfsdSGqvGTS29E= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=K8RA4IV6_TWFOAt-VmcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA56ZGkQ062514; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:35:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:35:11 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Zantgo Message-ID: <20111105013511.60eb942c@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> References: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Not found slim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 06:35:23 -0000 On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:15:56 -0300 Zantgo wrote: > I install slim and xfce4, and I put slim in the boot, What do you mean exactly, "put slim in the boot"??? > when the system booting, everything works fine when login screen > appears I can not type slim or move the mouse, which is the problem? Have you configured the X server properly first? Until you've done that, there's no chance of *any* X login manager (or any other X app, for that matter) working properly. READ THE HANDBOOK, *PLEASE*!!! It's available in more than one language. Follow the instructions given. Don't skip steps or "cut corners". A lot of thought has gone into providing all of the documentation you need to maintain your system, but it's up to you to use it. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 06:39:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4901106566C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@colannino.org) Received: from mda1.es.uci.edu (mda1.es.uci.edu [128.200.80.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DC18FC0A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from esmtp2.es.uci.edu (esmtp2.es.uci.edu [128.195.153.132]) by mda1.es.uci.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA56S4kP030198 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 23:28:04 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (69-12-176-48.dsl.static.sonic.net [69.12.176.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by esmtp2.es.uci.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA56S05c031422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 4 Nov 2011 23:28:03 -0700 X-UCInetID: jcolanni Message-ID: <4EB4D76A.2050009@colannino.org> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:27:54 -0700 From: James Colannino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111030 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Checking for broken packages (as in linking) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 06:39:26 -0000 No, I don't mean checking for broken ports :-P In fact, when I Google around for the answer to my question, that's all I can find, which is why I bring my question to the mailing list instead :) Maybe "broken ports" or "broken packages" isn't the right term (what should I be searching for instead?) What I want to know is, are there tools that will check the ports I've installed and tell me if any of my packages are linked against libraries that are no longer there? I'm paranoid that at some point, while I'm building and installing updates, I'm going to break something. I've been using FreeBSD for a little while now, but I'm still learning... :) Thanks in advance! James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 06:40:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764E6106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7E18FC12 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo305.cox.net ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111105064044.HWJY3769.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo305.cox.net>; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:40:44 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo305.cox.net with bizsmtp id tJgj1h00355wwzE02Jgj8W; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:40:43 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4EB4DA6B.011E,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=lXwdPVbKA6fvGHG/LVMbta1L2ROxlFdiboMCIwaN5to= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=ONb86MN08V_0o8Do8IUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=w1NABW8PNg4A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA56egoB062544; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:40:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:40:37 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Zantgo Message-ID: <20111105014037.3993c8eb@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> References: <7660046A-58C2-4DCA-A2C9-BB4D5FE37F9C@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Not found slim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 06:40:50 -0000 On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:15:56 -0300 Zantgo wrote: > I install slim and xfce4, and I put slim in the boot, when the system > booting, everything works fine when login screen appears I can not > type slim or move the mouse, which is the problem? Here's a link you *really* should read. Seriously. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html "How to get the best results from the FreeBSD-questions mailing list" -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 06:53:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047C0106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE1B8FC08 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo110.cox.net ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111105065338.JZOG3804.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net>; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 02:53:38 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo110.cox.net with bizsmtp id tJte1h00255wwzE02JtenH; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:53:38 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020B.4EB4DD72.0050,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=uJ/qTlwYUPBYhdejbfpiXZ084Nq1odojvP+g2rDuwMA= c=1 sm=1 a=opmBOJO4yRsA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=xQwi0fTxAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=o9HwpTq8uuMlAzmD7ggA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=tRGJRhlIArgA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA56rb86063259; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:53:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:53:32 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: James Colannino Message-ID: <20111105015332.298b4346@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <4EB4D76A.2050009@colannino.org> References: <4EB4D76A.2050009@colannino.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Checking for broken packages (as in linking) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 06:53:45 -0000 On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:27:54 -0700 James Colannino wrote: > > What I want to know is, are there tools that will check the ports > I've installed and tell me if any of my packages are linked against > libraries that are no longer there? I'm paranoid that at some point, > while I'm building and installing updates, I'm going to break > something. The port sysutils/bsdadminscripts includes a tool called pkg_libchk, which does exactly what you're looking for. > I've been using FreeBSD for a little while now, but I'm still > learning... :) Thanks in advance! Hey, we're all (even us so-called "old-timers") "still learning". :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 07:48:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81106106566C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 07:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander.kapshuk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3EF8FC1B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 07:48:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so5027654faa.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 00:48:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2NqxwfmEjN8e1hjFlO1mv2HNYjgzkHRc/fWcjawPJzw=; b=FfgxuEciUFPQYpDYKaONIUF5rBq5osGWJdx045Jtbvaqwg5JgIErYGafpqMk/U10E2 rHRNOgbB5Ypz6Ib/Afdyvd6zXr82tC+OKRquTnh2me5y0N+ZbEY0oprCgoLBT+o1+Mxn Qsv0sN9eg9fGynfZvECj/slh3BSBkSnp8TNF4= Received: by 10.223.92.135 with SMTP id r7mr15199304fam.35.1320479300844; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 00:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (93-127-96-97.static.vega-ua.net. [93.127.96.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d3sm7850331fad.2.2011.11.05.00.48.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 00:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB4EA43.80405@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:48:19 +0200 From: Alexander Kapshuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111014 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111104215321.5f9ca2eb@nonamehost.> <44r51nbq4p.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB457C1.2070607@gmail.com> <44lirvbopw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB46E5C.2000107@gmail.com> <44bosro5uj.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44bosro5uj.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: timothyk@wallnet.com, Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 07:48:22 -0000 On 11/05/11 00:55, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Alexander Kapshuk writes: > >> On 11/04/11 22:46, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>> Alexander Kapshuk writes: >>> >>>> the actual current time is 10.21 pm. >>> Your system's clock may be off as well... >>> >>>> any idea when an updated time zone file will become available? >>> It's already in the FreeBSD tree: >>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/contrib/tzdata/europe?rev=1.7.2.2;content-type=text%2Fplain >>> >>> To install it, you'll need something like >>> # zic europe >>> (where "europe" is the file from the URL above) >>> and then tzsetup(8) should install the correct information. >>> >>> Or you could update your system to anything after October 26. >> thanks. >> >> here's what i did based on my understanding of the instructions given above: >> # cd $HOME >> # fetch -o europe >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/contrib/tzdata/europe?rev=1.7.2.2;content-type=text%2Fplain >> # zic europe >> # tzsetup -r >> >> :; date >> Sat Nov 5 00:54:32 EET 2011 >> >> the timezone did change from 'FET' to 'EET', but the time is still >> wrong by being 1 hour ahead of the actual ukraine time. >> >> another thing i tried, which didn't seem to help was set these >> environment variables in my /etc/rc.conf: >> (as suggested here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10276 >> [post # 6]) >> >> ntpdate_enable="YES" >> ntpdate_flags="-u -b" >> ntpdate_hosts="ua.pool.ntp.org" > That will only do anything at startup. > To do the same thing without needing to reboot, the command line would be > # ntpdate -u -b ua.pool.ntp.org > >> i must be doing something wrong. just don't know what is it. >> >> can anyone please suggest what it is i should be doing? > Well, start with what I suggested a while back: try "date -u" > and see whether that is the correct UTC time. If not, the ntpdate > command will solve you problems. If it is, there's still something else > wrong. > thanks for your replies. running 'date -u' indicated that the system clock on my machine was out of sync as well. running 'ntpdate -u -b ua.pool.ntp.org' set both the system clock and the local time to the right time. :; date -u Sat Nov 5 07:24:23 UTC 2011 :; date Sat Nov 5 09:24:26 EET 2011 then i read somewhere that 'ntpdate' is bound to become deprecated at some stage. it was suggested that 'ntpd' be used instead. so i removed the 'ntpdate' variables from my '/etc/rc.conf' and replaced them with: :; grep ntpd /etc/rc.conf ntpd_enable="YES" ntpd_sync_on_start="YES" http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-ntp.html talks about modifying the '/etc/ntp.conf' file by adding information on what servers to use. it also said that 'By default, your NTP server will be accessible to all hosts on the Internet. The restrict option in /etc/ntp.conf allows you to control which machines can access your server' i'm not sure i clearly understand what has to be done to make the ntp server on my system to be inaccessible to anyone but me. a sample /etc/ntp.conf would be appreciated. thanks. sasha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 08:06:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9655106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AE38FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA586oeM063225 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:06:50 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pA586oeM063225 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1320480411; bh=MygBCgajpaCeG3p20dh/Mv2bFtIUL0zag19avZ9zEBg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=rCdvWjlhekjBuHgOKNJjPHVcEdh7lHYzFtIsTMl6aZthEHBWMKVToJ+aN++Ffouou avetNi3Sn4zmc/BxWFNtUhjN6xpt99zEVF4/JdGtaldWD842BXL/i5O8laWvoBmILH TMlffcfALj5ndl217jG/pOOss//ctCU/hCsHvPzI= Message-ID: <4EB4EE92.60303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:06:42 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111104215321.5f9ca2eb@nonamehost.> <44r51nbq4p.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB457C1.2070607@gmail.com> <44lirvbopw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB46E5C.2000107@gmail.com> <44bosro5uj.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4EB4EA43.80405@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EB4EA43.80405@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig84BF47F9F7FDBE67ED93A087" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:06:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig84BF47F9F7FDBE67ED93A087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/11/2011 07:48, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > i'm not sure i clearly understand what has to be done to make the ntp > server on my system to be inaccessible to anyone but me. >=20 > a sample /etc/ntp.conf would be appreciated. >=20 You need the 'restrict' keyword to control access to ntpd -- add a block something like this to the beginning of ntp.conf: restrict default nomodify nopeer noquery notrap # everyone can go away.= =2E. restrict -6 default nomodify nopeer noquery notrap restrict 127.0.0.1 # except me ... restrict -6 ::1 restrict 81.187.76.160 mask 255.255.255.248 nomodify notrap nopeer # or the local net restrict -6 2001:8b0:151:1:: mask ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:: nomodify notrap nopeer Except, obviously, replace the network addresses and netmasks in the last two lines with appropriate settings for your environment. See ntp.conf(5). Note these restrictions apply to outgoing as well as incoming queries, so you can block your own access to NTP servers on the net if not careful. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig84BF47F9F7FDBE67ED93A087 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk607poACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzbIACeIvqZAnn3zsyJXN8jUg0xvRRZ afQAn0T6/ojfBL0id06FNoRfy/onSKFe =RHRh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig84BF47F9F7FDBE67ED93A087-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 08:10:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1AD106566B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander.kapshuk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D79C8FC0A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so5041359faa.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:10:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r8T8xv8H8n9N+QE3vlKsomCQwPtytQ7VSZPM4raspQk=; b=W1Tnz8wLZDMavLRCJ/gX/JSMBwq8Yd9dDbaC1dzPHJiRZg57T6KvuVr+YMXyKCE0uN 2rZaLxNif1WBb6cb+ujACXW+2UpsXcCth9JJ34778p9ocHYgWxu2sZjBH2J+OeYPSDMF 9yk1Y9bmUqL7SDHec8f9Jxv2Qf+q3M2fFvo8I= Received: by 10.223.76.197 with SMTP id d5mr30540155fak.13.1320480650168; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (93-127-96-97.static.vega-ua.net. [93.127.96.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d3sm7927942fad.2.2011.11.05.01.10.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB4EF88.20507@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:10:48 +0200 From: Alexander Kapshuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111014 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EB44272.6060809@gmail.com> <44vcqzbrlu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111104215321.5f9ca2eb@nonamehost.> <44r51nbq4p.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB457C1.2070607@gmail.com> <44lirvbopw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4EB46E5C.2000107@gmail.com> <44bosro5uj.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4EB4EA43.80405@gmail.com> <4EB4EE92.60303@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EB4EE92.60303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: trouble setting timezone for ukraine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:10:51 -0000 On 11/05/11 10:06, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/11/2011 07:48, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: >> i'm not sure i clearly understand what has to be done to make the ntp >> server on my system to be inaccessible to anyone but me. >> >> a sample /etc/ntp.conf would be appreciated. >> > You need the 'restrict' keyword to control access to ntpd -- add a block > something like this to the beginning of ntp.conf: > > restrict default nomodify nopeer noquery notrap # everyone can go away... > restrict -6 default nomodify nopeer noquery notrap > restrict 127.0.0.1 # except me ... > restrict -6 ::1 > restrict 81.187.76.160 mask 255.255.255.248 nomodify notrap nopeer # or > the local net > restrict -6 2001:8b0:151:1:: mask ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:: nomodify notrap > nopeer > > Except, obviously, replace the network addresses and netmasks in the > last two lines with appropriate settings for your environment. See > ntp.conf(5). Note these restrictions apply to outgoing as well as > incoming queries, so you can block your own access to NTP servers on the > net if not careful. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > understood. thanks. sasha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 08:24:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794ED106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9808FC08 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 684CBE804E6; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:24:23 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20111105082420.GA9857@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: GUI tool from several years ago... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:24:24 -0000 do any of you remember the name of the port that set up a GUI square or rectangle and allowed easy expansion of code underneath? it let you do-GUI-framework-quick-and-easy. my key-click program is close enough that i want to move on to the part where the mute or speech-impaired user clicks on this GUI rectangle. let's say he clicks on the default "talk.0"; the app instantly brings up vim or gvim that is loaded with ~130 abbrevs. the user types, say, "hw r u gys?" into the talk.0 file. after he types :x, thed program forks espeak -f talk.0 and everyone around hears his computerized voice. meanwhile, the gui app moves talk.0 to ~/.Speak, say, and spawns gvim talk.1 in case anybody says something that requires further communication (and typing). this Speech/Speak tool is =not= for geeks. --ok. not necessarily! it is for anyone with a small, lightweight netpad/notepad like the EEE 900A. i've talked to a hacker who volunteers for the OLPC project. it has a membrane keyboard. a lot of the children find this hard to type on, so an audible "click" -- loud or soft -- might be a major win. Thus, having the easy-devel tool to create GUI apps would be a big help. i found it maybe 15 years ago, played with it for an hour or two before going back to the Xlib files I was teaching myself. --I could always use Xaw3d or something else that i'm familiar with, but would rather find an easier way. i've been searching thru ports. so far, nothing. thanks for any clues! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 08:34:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD1C106566C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@colannino.org) Received: from esmtp1.es.uci.edu (esmtp1.es.uci.edu [128.195.153.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2368FC17 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (69-12-176-48.dsl.static.sonic.net [69.12.176.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by esmtp1.es.uci.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA58Y9nv012799 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 5 Nov 2011 01:34:10 -0700 X-UCInetID: jcolanni Message-ID: <4EB4F4FA.8070801@colannino.org> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:34:02 -0700 From: James Colannino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111030 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EB4D76A.2050009@colannino.org> <20111105015332.298b4346@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20111105015332.298b4346@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Checking for broken packages (as in linking) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:34:11 -0000 On 11/04/11 23:53, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:27:54 -0700 > James Colannino wrote: >> >> What I want to know is, are there tools that will check the ports >> I've installed and tell me if any of my packages are linked against >> libraries that are no longer there? I'm paranoid that at some point, >> while I'm building and installing updates, I'm going to break >> something. > > The port sysutils/bsdadminscripts includes a tool called pkg_libchk, > which does exactly what you're looking for. Perfect. Thanks! >> I've been using FreeBSD for a little while now, but I'm still >> learning... :) Thanks in advance! > > Hey, we're all (even us so-called "old-timers") "still learning". :-) :) James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 10:35:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A85C106566B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 10:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm15-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm15-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E49B08FC16 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 10:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.52.190] by nm15.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2011 10:35:56 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.180] by tm3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2011 10:35:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1063.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2011 10:35:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 165498.67988.bm@omp1063.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 21463 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2011 10:35:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1320489355; bh=PSWIrm+Lo9qZOUI4nryzFFzCD06UZrtkBzoILmGrLEM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lmDKXgR3ByLaVRQhtcBMwO18iI4LZT3zGrbeLi57FwTeC5O1MKEmUDWkq/4Vp4/DJo0oOXonIQTyYRz7ilMugV89PVwH1jzM2+VIkRS84Ft844P4HLlOeAoRCT4e/Ogz1a9L+iIfq8eiLVJxROhzNupVS4AbvDXDZukATfbSvvI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T/0NcYTAgVqvxd/nRCZdRnMMszrsSm8PN3Ls/APjxNIXhZ4r4F9Yld9c6KZDGF57OBXZ0fXoJsL5YwU5Ew3QQ5IlLQoWk+qvhnimTl2O1Ok/5TXHXC4y1FnTFKZ8G86CJior6gAK8xgFa2boK7xiRryCDXYjbtIfp0cZdcArAEU=; X-YMail-OSG: ms0VyKEVM1k18U_4iC9S1zAspZf7CQnaVZKHDs9irNlu2I5 Fbqp7dS88.lEK1ayne0qFzj3ksr3F6tkE4Z.HagWaSKnqR_ve9VqSXUHzzyK HqKyLJe012.40G8lufHFd1YFoZedDER.Mdmuorf58xChHK.nGEiPU2JqHvTz IaQnGoyfDsLM_a7VhnSiIOTz6nJL3VxnsJvZ5M5F2p1xQ2l18fJa7Yn9uE2Z HSnTr6hgQFf3tXsizXkkHJtwwWuncs_b4vIN4dZBNyGk6PYvZ_Sm9CO9xCDO uANrqEUPtYThhXQClHoNsYextcKlOfMNpqaZDphW7SHw8_RABd7f1o_rvYJ0 Y1G9UWxb6LAhQUXImyPUekGrIo8nmUl6ndNJbZkKxBy1uKYg6mKC9jkPyvMb z9LCaK..a5iomQz_UAjDyp4xMwNo0pOFcpQeLp0IFz3bngWj4BzLBB67thsO dPt03iBwElXJTGNL3z.yGXJtlehZzjyudBWPByifOLF_zvOz9hPezaGYsyvt 6wEYZz4_g9OGq3cYKKn868Bw7M2IrHx.jlLfROu75CLqLWfnEUKwjwUoScc8 u9JJU1nfLfg8cO2qmHIjMM46Z4.bGwy_bOmQHzK1FN0Nn5Bhu7Wsl4Cg4JZ1 jQEADruvDT.XKWyijLfHHgugOiXd8 Received: from [98.203.44.66] by web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 03:35:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 References: <84AD393C-FDDE-4F00-BAD8-F5CB41BCED07@d3photography.com> Message-ID: <1320489355.14536.YahooMailNeo@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 03:35:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <84AD393C-FDDE-4F00-BAD8-F5CB41BCED07@d3photography.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bill Tillman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:35:57 -0000 =A0=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom: Ryan Coleman =0ATo: FreeBSD Questions =0ASe= nt: Friday, November 4, 2011 10:22 AM=0ASubject: OpenVPN - what configurati= on do I need/want=0A=0AI have a PE 2450 with dual NICs and I want to turn i= t into a bridging VPN for the guys in the office to utilize.=0A=0AOur confi= guration:=0AMy office: 192.168.46.0/24=0A=A0=A0=A0 Server IPs: 192.168.46.2= [8.2-RELEASE] + public IP=0ACorporate office: 192.168.45.0/24=0AMy VPN: 19= 2.168.47.0/24 [preferred]=0AThere's a NetVanta VPN between my office and th= e corporate office and I presume that will still work to route 47.0/24 to 4= 5.0/24 when all is said and done.=0A=0AI am going to be supporting Windows = and Mac clients (well, all windows and then my mac) and I'd like to test it= from my 8.2 server at home before pushing this over to my MacBook Pro (usi= ng Tunnelblick) and then to my Windows users.=0A=0AI've tried the FreeBSD h= andbook and the Section6.net walkthroughs to no avail.=0A=0AAny help would = be appreciated.=0A=0AThanks,=0ARyan =0A=0A_________________________________= ______________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.= freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any m= ail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=A0=0AI can't sa= y that I'm familiar with your setup which uses "bridging". But I setup Open= VPN to work on a server inside my LAN which is behind my FreeBSD firewall s= erver. The setup wasn't that hard, you just have to forward the right ports= and get the certificates copied to the clients correctly. The docs on the = OpenVPN site were very helpful in this for me. =0AThe trouble you may find = is that this other VPN appliance you reference, NetVanta, may or may not be= compatible with OpenVPN. I tried this several years ago with a remote comp= any I was working for and found out quite dissappointingly that the protoco= l used by OpenVPN would not work whatsoever with Cisco equipment. That may = have changed now but at the time all the advice I got was forget about it. = Cisco equipment would not work with OpenVPN period. Luckily at the time I h= ad a small Cisco appliance at my house and that is the only way I could get= that setup to work. These days I happily connect to my LAN with encrypted = tunnels from most places like hotels, etc... There is a problem sometimes a= t places like Starbucks or McDonalds where they have equipment which is blo= cking ports needed to run VPN. And in most cases it's not that they are blo= cking specific ports, it's that they are blocking everything except port 80= to only let their freebie users surf web content. =0AYMMV....check the docs on the OpenVPN site. Many HOWTOs and ex= amples will help you get going. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 11:06:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0383106566C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.ross@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B0988FC13 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Nov 2011 10:39:41 -0000 Received: from dslb-188-108-011-229.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO michael-think) [188.108.11.229] by mail.gmx.net (mp058) with SMTP; 05 Nov 2011 11:39:41 +0100 X-Authenticated: #11429267 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/LwUBA8DrLxe/TLuEfoE7ulXrLk2cdtn81Vc/ciz R/T73eWTVtg2+V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: Zantgo , "Conrad J. Sabatier" References: <20111105012317.065c6b6f@cox.net> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 11:39:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20111105012317.065c6b6f@cox.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.52 (Win32) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 11:06:23 -0000 Am 05.11.2011, 07:23 Uhr, schrieb Conrad J. Sabatier : > Again, go back and read the Handbook sections on using csup, updating > your src and ports trees, etc. No one is interested in repeating > information that is already available in a complete and detailed form. Available if you are proficient in English. The spanish translation is lacking the parts he asks about, and then some. Regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 11:23:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F441065672 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9086B8FC12 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo305.cox.net ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111105112347.PQKX3765.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo305.cox.net>; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 07:23:47 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo305.cox.net with bizsmtp id tPPn1h00355wwzE02PPnWi; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 07:23:47 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.4EB51CC3.0060,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=lXwdPVbKA6fvGHG/LVMbta1L2ROxlFdiboMCIwaN5to= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=VVlED5B4AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=EeGFl0mM9L-SEPhJOUAA:9 a=TqcwK_RPY1j3ju-IkyEA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=BFDKbZatV3MA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA5BNkOo046633; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:23:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 06:23:41 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: <20111105062341.03b20d37@cox.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20111105012317.065c6b6f@cox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Zantgo , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 11:23:54 -0000 On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 11:39:32 +0100 "Michael Ross" wrote: > Am 05.11.2011, 07:23 Uhr, schrieb Conrad J. Sabatier > : > > > Again, go back and read the Handbook sections on using csup, > > updating your src and ports trees, etc. No one is interested in > > repeating information that is already available in a complete and > > detailed form. > > Available if you are proficient in English. > The spanish translation is lacking the parts he asks about, and then > some. Oh, I was not aware that the translations were that lacking. If that's the case, and the OP has, in fact, tried to do his own research, then my apologies. It just seems that we've seen an awful lot of questions lately from this individual that seem to indicate that he's using the mailing list as his reference, rather than consulting whatever documentation may be available to him first. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 14:36:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280901065670 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F428FC1A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so2938076vcb.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 07:36:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=gvrRCMjmf/aFjTBC73WlSRPnXN3Ws3GApBYFR3QeJqU=; b=wsgTjave/q24L1b5F22n6A5o9tYbaglmHvFG2rmtpV6gZDO7kYR9+pv5Sn65uPqXQ6 sWWNlyTSBJt/dEftM8FwqrOELll5OhrKjQQ14IFQ01C8ZcCNQ/JJzW7Po/ckP+AXbDJm 7GQH6CW9C42bWs02F10h6JQnWjg5YGrnJ/F34= Received: by 10.52.100.74 with SMTP id ew10mr19400283vdb.7.1320503808928; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 07:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ib2sm19433710vdb.1.2011.11.05.07.36.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 07:36:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <20111105012317.065c6b6f@cox.net> <20111105062341.03b20d37@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20111105062341.03b20d37@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:36:53 -0300 To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" , Michael Ross Subject: Re: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:36:50 -0000 I will say my question clear. If I have FreeBSD-8.2-stable, updated 2011/05/18, what I want to do is updat= e the current, as for example 2011/11/01. I am willing to read me a manual t= hat tells me how to do this.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 14:52:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70D5106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2ED8FC13 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qadb12 with SMTP id b12so1787822qad.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 07:52:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.152.65 with SMTP id uw1mr4681719obb.10.1320504757730; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 07:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.88.98 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 07:52:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.172.73] In-Reply-To: References: <20111105012317.065c6b6f@cox.net> <20111105062341.03b20d37@cox.net> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:52:37 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:52:39 -0000 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Zantgo wrote: > I will say my question clear. > If I have FreeBSD-8.2-stable, updated 2011/05/18, what I want to do is update the current, as for example 2011/11/01. I am willing to read me a manual that tells me how to do this._______________________________________________ Short answer: 1. Update /usr/src with csup using an appropriate supfile. e.g.: ---------- /etc/8stable-sup ---------------------------- *default host=cvsup2.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all ----------- /etc/8stable-sup ---------------------------- # csup -g -L2 /etc/8stable-sup 2. Compile /usr/src into /usr/obj: # cd /usr/src # make buildworld && make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC 3. Install /usr/obj as the base system: # make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC # reboot (single user) (You do this to verify that the new kernel is booting correctly) (single-user)# mount -a (single-user)# cd /usr/src (single-user)# mergemaster -p (single-user)# make installworld (single-user)# mergemaster (single-user)# make delete-old [optional, but beware!] (single-user)# make delete-old-libs (single-user)# reboot 4. Now update the ports tree /usr/ports -------------- /etc/ports-sup ------------------------------- *default host=cvsup2.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-all --------------- /etc/ports-sup ------------------------------- # csup -g -L2 /etc/ports-sup 5. Update the installed ports on your system, by rebuilding all ports that are not up-to-date: # cd /usr/ports # less UPDATING (Read from the entry of the last time you've updated the ports) (get a new portmaster just in case) # portmaster -b ports-mgmt/portmaster (now, rebuild all that is not up-to-date) # portmaster -a Or, if you prefer: # pkg_version -v '<' > /root/pkg-update-list.txt # less /root/pkg-update-list # portmaster -b (one-port-after-the-other-from-the-list-above) (To get portmaster, install /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster) Good luck, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 14:55:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4362A106566C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FA08FC1A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:55:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5so3494401gyd.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 07:55:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.111.8 with SMTP id ie8mr3083467obb.50.1320504920765; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 07:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.88.98 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 07:55:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.172.73] In-Reply-To: References: <20111105012317.065c6b6f@cox.net> <20111105062341.03b20d37@cox.net> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:55:20 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:55:23 -0000 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Zantgo wrote: > I will say my question clear. > If I have FreeBSD-8.2-stable, updated 2011/05/18, what I want to do is update the current, as for example 2011/11/01. I am willing to read me a manual that tells me how to do this._______________________________________________ If you want to update to the latest 8.2-STABLE (tracking -STABLE), please follow the instructions in my previous mail. However, updating to -CURRENT (i.e. FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT, RELENG_10) is more involved because of API breakages. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 15:11:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22072106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82C48FC17 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so290724vws.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:11:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=kyr1GJ/cBlSMgPbqJTigzq2tKy+FMuznuukYpJ1GxEU=; b=LTfgunQrcDijo+pVAxgqMzPI9CtnTslMa+AuV4HJhg0pKymSHlC4f40I+kvboKRbbY HJTX9X3ALtOANwi7XCnykIb/wrPjD4NeAtNAYghWQfHX+6Quf9uBupVppDtz8slq3TV/ EcaYYYgTIsJYhPrpIyaL3eMCnkW2kTOgWvWDc= Received: by 10.52.27.240 with SMTP id w16mr8436414vdg.35.1320505873901; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p7sm19541564vdh.9.2011.11.05.08.11.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:11:13 -0700 (PDT) References: <20111105012317.065c6b6f@cox.net> <20111105062341.03b20d37@cox.net> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <1541C6F8-4330-4711-BC65-D6F70A8AE142@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:11:14 -0300 To: Michael Ross Cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:11:15 -0000 Well, there's a faster way to update?, Perhaps anoncvs is faster or not?. Af= ter all we are talking about regular updates, I'll do every month. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 15:21:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CAD106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7327F8FC0A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.108.11.229] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RMhhr-0006m6-Qd; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:58:52 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" , Zantgo References: <20111105012317.065c6b6f@cox.net> <20111105062341.03b20d37@cox.net> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:58:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.52 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.2/13893/Sat Nov 5 02:09:18 2011) Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:21:11 -0000 Am 05.11.2011, 15:36 Uhr, schrieb Zantgo : > I will say my question clear. > If I have FreeBSD-8.2-stable, updated 2011/05/18, what I want to do is > update the current, as for example 2011/11/01. I am willing to read me a > manual that tells me how to do > this._______________________________________________ I do it like this: put this in "stable-supfile": *default host=cvsup.de.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all execute: csup stable-supfile cd /usr/src make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel mergemaster -p make installworld mergemaster -a reboot You now have updated to a "current" 8-STABLE. This is, if 8.3 would exist, you would now have 8.3-STABLE. If you just want security patches for 8.2 and not go to 8.3 if it comes out, you have to define tag=RELENG_8_2 This is not the same as tag=HEAD. tag=HEAD gives you CURRENT, which is 9.0-RC1 i believe. Do not confuse these. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/makeworld.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 17:06:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7901E106566B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F458FC12 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so3017353vcb.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:06:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=7TyqmKHCyfPW7bDXhTPfnLvw4pTnJ6+7lIjo1jsZlxc=; b=xV/aOv6b8dWXuuFgRDl7yWaWNwoLEzRLn1J72D4Shup9Vt0i+3u6+AURve+tIRsP9X 9ZPTHcITY97xuwO3TkmMI2c6XD+Zi7u3sfHojgc8/G5760IlQu1KjtPDCb8p6qULkTdS KrlSd9f+2+9hh7R8PkB3hXNRi3gbVId3kbo8Q= Received: by 10.52.109.102 with SMTP id hr6mr20171606vdb.44.1320512780660; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dw3sm19967571vdb.16.2011.11.05.10.06.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:06:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Zantgo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:06:26 -0300 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Problem in install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:06:21 -0000 While I am installing FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE, when I finish with disklabel, and t= hen says "Last chance", then to accept I get the following message: Unable to find device node for / dev/ad4s1b in / dev! The creation of filesystem Will be aborted. 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Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:32:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.11 YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 Message-ID: <1320514379.57732.YahooMailClassic@web122205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 10:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: masayoshi To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Problem in install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:33:00 -0000 --- On Sun, 6/11/11, Zantgo wrote:=0A=0A> From: Zantgo <= zantgo@gmail.com>=0A> Subject: Problem in install=0A> To: "freebsd-question= s@FreeBSD.org" =0A> Received: Sunday, 6 Nove= mber, 2011, 4:06 AM=0A> While I am installing FreeBSD=0A> 8.2-STABLE, when = I finish with disklabel, and then says=0A> "Last chance", then to accept I = get the following message:=0A> =0A> Unable to find device node for / dev/ad= 4s1b in / dev!=0A> The creation of filesystem Will be aborted.=0A=0AHi=0ATh= ough I=E3=80=80am noob, I searched FreeBSD forum.=0Ahttp://forums.freebsd.o= rg/showthread.php?t=3D1675=0A=0A---=0AInexperienced FreeBSD user: Level 2= =0Amasayoshi & Ayumi Kinoshita=0Ahttp://tinyurl.com/63zg3op=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 17:41:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0524106564A for ; 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format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: Re: Problem in install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:41:58 -0000 On Sat, 5 Nov 2011, masayoshi wrote: > --- On Sun, 6/11/11, Zantgo wrote: > >> From: Zantgo >> Subject: Problem in install >> To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" >> Received: Sunday, 6 November, 2011, 4:06 AM >> While I am installing FreeBSD >> 8.2-STABLE, when I finish with disklabel, and then says >> "Last chance", then to accept I get the following message: >> >> Unable to find device node for / dev/ad4s1b in / dev! >> The creation of filesystem Will be aborted. > > Hi > Though I?am noob, I searched FreeBSD forum. > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1675 > I believe this is exactly correct. If this does not do it, recreate the partition (step 1) and select the write option rather than quit. Under conditions I do not understand the partition table does not get written when reformatting a disk when just selecting quit. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 17:42:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F0E1065676 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nec556@retena.com) Received: from resmaa12.ono.com (smtp12.ono.com [62.42.230.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B988FC18 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from GogPortatil.retena.com (212.21.232.228) by resmaa12.ono.com (8.5.113) (authenticated as nec556@retena.com) id 4E5EF2B0010970C7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 18:42:44 +0100 Message-ID: <4E5EF2B0010970C7@> (added by postmaster@resmaa12.ono.com) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 18:42:50 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Eduardo Morras Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 10.0.1411 [2092/3998] Subject: Re: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:42:47 -0000 At 11:39 05/11/2011, you wrote: >Am 05.11.2011, 07:23 Uhr, schrieb Conrad J. Sabatier : > >>Again, go back and read the Handbook sections on using csup, updating >>your src and ports trees, etc. No one is interested in repeating >>information that is already available in a complete and detailed form. > >Available if you are proficient in English. >The spanish translation is lacking the parts he asks about, and then some. He's already asking about it in freebsd-es list. But, if he can read/write in english to this and others mail lists, i doubt he has any problem reading the english handbook. I think he don't want to read the handbook, he wants answers to Frequently Answered Questions. Zantgo, please, read the handbook, reread the relevants parts, you are asking the same things one time, and another, and another... And please, don't think i want to PLONK! you >Regards, > >Michael >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 19:01:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BE81065675 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 19:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297518FC15 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 19:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so40605vws.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:01:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=xDCgkzO0NvI5LOF9Ehd3bkKwkbxHjwM/gVgORLNIk5U=; b=ARCvixh+X1m3svbNdRO36BbBpCuO36VFqDj8E5hCfFDdN3aIilYJy2zodwy8lbpBXc wE3zI7xitNxM8jMQu0b6BtsW3NnGPU5Xy5DkHVbxO3FqLBjGnvleugdBDlWuIyTHpEX7 Gdb5ebTPF4pj5b47ZRafS3t7u4JPXBeHEOscY= Received: by 10.52.33.84 with SMTP id p20mr20092147vdi.32.1320519703369; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hn2sm6926325vdb.14.2011.11.05.12.01.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:01:42 -0700 (PDT) References: <20111105012317.065c6b6f@cox.net> <20111105062341.03b20d37@cox.net> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <9AA66DB2-18DF-4691-804F-A36B82E7A2C7@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:01:46 -0300 To: Michael Ross Cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:01:44 -0000 El 05-11-2011, a las 11:58, "Michael Ross" escribi=C3=B3: > Am 05.11.2011, 15:36 Uhr, schrieb Zantgo : >=20 >> I will say my question clear. >> If I have FreeBSD-8.2-stable, updated 2011/05/18, what I want to do is up= date the current, as for example 2011/11/01. I am willing to read me a manua= l that tells me how to do this._____________________________________________= __ >=20 >=20 > I do it like this: >=20 > put this in "stable-supfile": >=20 > *default host=3Dcvsup.de.FreeBSD.org > *default base=3D/var/db > *default prefix=3D/usr > *default release=3Dcvs tag=3DRELENG_8 > *default delete use-rel-suffix >=20 > *default compress >=20 > src-all >=20 > execute: >=20 > csup stable-supfile > cd /usr/src > make buildworld > make buildkernel > make installkernel > mergemaster -p > make installworld > mergemaster -a > reboot >=20 >=20 > You now have updated to a "current" 8-STABLE. > This is, if 8.3 would exist, you would now have 8.3-STABLE. > If you just want security patches for 8.2 and not go to 8.3 if it comes ou= t, > you have to define tag=3DRELENG_8_2 >=20 >=20 > This is not the same as tag=3DHEAD. > tag=3DHEAD gives you CURRENT, which is 9.0-RC1 i believe. > Do not confuse these. >=20 This also updates ports right? >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/makeworld.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 19:43:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA778106566B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 19:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC1F8FC13 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 19:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt32 with SMTP id 32so4943647ywt.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:43:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.111.8 with SMTP id ie8mr3470037obb.50.1320522214774; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.88.98 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:43:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.172.73] In-Reply-To: <4EB4D76A.2050009@colannino.org> References: <4EB4D76A.2050009@colannino.org> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:43:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: James Colannino Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=14dae9399c998798ef04b1020901 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Checking for broken packages (as in linking) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:43:36 -0000 --14dae9399c998798ef04b1020901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 7:27 AM, James Colannino wrote= : > No, I don't mean checking for broken ports :-P =A0In fact, when I Google > around for the answer to my question, that's all I can find, which is why= I > bring my question to the mailing list instead :) =A0Maybe "broken ports" = or > "broken packages" isn't the right term (what should I be searching for > instead?) > > What I want to know is, are there tools that will check the ports I've > installed and tell me if any of my packages are linked against libraries > that are no longer there? =A0I'm paranoid that at some point, while I'm > building and installing updates, I'm going to break something. 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P. Ghost wrote: > I'm using the following script (attached). Thanks for the script. By any chance, are you a Gentoo user (or were you at one point)? revdep-rebuild, a part of the gentoolkit, is the first thing I think of when I think about fixing broken packages :) James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 20:02:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA6C106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027158FC13 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so3096451vcb.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:02:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=5vPcC5hlIaHoiTYY9QkUF5G0eKQ9FHjT4+AaSuPaCds=; b=VAmLSiUKJJyPPNR8yxpew9YdzOSz7baG3pVbi+FiANJygn6Y88p18LV+w4QgCS4jQN tH1UJB7COMUP97maxDCvp6xqHM6J25nGcCOk7VOYPpTgSdFY2t/KlkY/95wqggfNz8JR RWE/3Slm1GRohyQ1Bc+ddhJtK4pTIOhzArI/8= Received: by 10.52.37.129 with SMTP id y1mr20192534vdj.23.1320523367215; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([190.91.99.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ey9sm20648887vdc.19.2011.11.05.13.02.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:02:46 -0700 (PDT) References: <4eb575a8.6219440a.1033.ffff8d87SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <4eb575a8.6219440a.1033.ffff8d87SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:02:52 -0300 To: Eduardo Morras Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: -Stable periodic updates X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:02:48 -0000 I can do this to update the ports and src: # cd /usr # cvs -qd anoncvs@anoncvs.freebsd.org:/cvs get -rFREEBSD_9_0 -P # cd /usr/src # cvs -q up -rFREEBSD_9_0 -Pd # cd /usr # cvs -qd anoncvs@anoncvs.freebsd.org:/cvs get -rFREEBSD -P ports # cd /usr/ports # cvs -q up -rFREEBSD_9_0 -Pd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 20:19:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1336106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpuburner@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640CD8FC08 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so5625374faa.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:19:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=h7ukDbGoR6/zNy4/hha0L80swBJS0fT+s2g4yXeM5OU=; b=MvHaaGpj65EwM3AKj9GDAPpQ+oAE6drXWKkp3u5KiGf6k+Ta6qtVeYy38IqyaxPz1H qsTHpYsziS3xMtC8xVTN5bU0/mPckKsq7Lkj+UQLj7oYkZWTfAEgWYeSHgDCPofuk0ee bFp1i01ynSDKZe6++f8Up91vIRWqo5CahQLwM= Received: by 10.223.76.66 with SMTP id b2mr34806531fak.15.1320522461072; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:47:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.96.200 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:47:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:20 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: recursive copy with spaces in descendants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:19:17 -0000 I'm having difficulty copying a directory tree from my FreeBSD server to USB storage. The problem is that the tree contains file and folder names which have spaces, similar to the following: ./foo bar/some name.tar.gz ./foo bar/child dir/some other name.tar.gz I've tried various combinations of cp with enclosing the top level directory in quotations, along with other commands like tar or xargs to no avail. The problem seems to be with creating the destination directories and folders, where mkdir/cp terminates with an invalid argument response. Cleaning up the source filenames using something like detox isn't viable, as the files are being served by transmission-daemon, and as such the names must be preserved. Permissions are not an issue either, as the same responses occur whether I use a standard or root account. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, since I'm pretty much out of them at this point. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 20:23:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EAA106566B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF738FC0A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so4595007wyg.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:23:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.13.165 with SMTP id ez5mr3703765wid.51.1320524582798; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:23:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:23:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Chris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recursive copy with spaces in descendants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:23:04 -0000 I just use tar for this. ( cd /path/to/src ; tar cf - . ) | ( cd /path/to/obj ; tar xf - ) - M On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Chris wrote: > I'm having difficulty copying a directory tree from my FreeBSD server to > USB storage. The problem is that the tree contains file and folder names > which have spaces, similar to the following: > > ./foo bar/some name.tar.gz > ./foo bar/child dir/some other name.tar.gz > > I've tried various combinations of cp with enclosing the top level > directory in quotations, along with other commands like tar or xargs =A0t= o no > avail. The problem seems to be with creating the destination directories > and folders, where mkdir/cp terminates with an invalid argument response. > > Cleaning up the source filenames using something like detox isn't viable, > as the files are being served by transmission-daemon, and as such the nam= es > must be preserved. Permissions are not an issue either, as the same > responses occur whether I use a standard or root account. > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, since I'm pretty much out of them > at this point. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 20:33:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86740106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E488FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF34A706C5 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25613 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2011 20:33:10 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 32274, pid: 8742, t: 0.1535s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Nov 2011 20:33:10 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDAC2E0CE; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 95CA23983C; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:33:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Michael Sierchio References: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:33:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Michael Sierchio's message of "Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:23:02 -0700") Message-ID: <44d3d6paww.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Chris , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recursive copy with spaces in descendants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:33:12 -0000 Michael Sierchio writes: > I just use tar for this. > > ( cd /path/to/src ; tar cf - . ) | ( cd /path/to/obj ; tar xf - ) I was going to launch into an explanation of shell quoting, but come to think of it, tar is how I do this too. > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Chris wrote: >> I'm having difficulty copying a directory tree from my FreeBSD server to >> USB storage. The problem is that the tree contains file and folder names >> which have spaces, similar to the following: >> >> ./foo bar/some name.tar.gz >> ./foo bar/child dir/some other name.tar.gz I think: cp foo\ bar/some\ name.tar.gz some_other_path/. will work for all shells. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 21:29:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D46D1065670 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpistanbulbilisim@setrow.com) Received: from mgw02-42.relay02.setrow.com (mgw02-42.relay02.setrow.com [212.252.24.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A128FC18 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mgw02-42.relay02.setrow.com (PowerMTA(TM) v3.5r16) id hmmlck12p1cb for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:29:43 +0200 (envelope-from ) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:29:42 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org From: =?utf-8?Q?=C4=B0stanbul_Bili=C5=9Fim?= Message-ID: <1105a87ba8685c8f78b378a981e25025@www.setrow.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Setrow Importance: Normal Precedence: bulk X-MAIL-INFORMATION: 44856522-7888-270-Tr-0-questions@freebsd.org-1 Delivered-To: =?utf-8?Q?=C4=B0stanbul_Bili=C5=9Fim_?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: =?utf-8?q?Kurban_Bayram=C4=B1n=C4=B1z_M=C3=BCbarek_Olsun?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:29:47 -0000 Size =C3=B6zel b=C3=BClteni g=C3=B6rmek i=C3=A7in a=C5=9Fa=C4=9F=C4=B1daki = linke t=C4=B1klay=C4=B1n=C4=B1z:=20 T=C4=B1klay=C4=B1n=C4=B1z=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 21:35:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7355E1065672 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpuburner@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2C68FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so5692747faa.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:35:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=jn+QCLebZdhlek2jEWZmR7Of1AKcnF90yOtXsnPTVow=; b=SrPI459PjvXElzItHHQX6Zj6V+Z+frw6N4Ktc8bv0QHL5LQY8l1Qk7G9FECrfgOSte 1C+LRduMo/WOCXOtwyobFRwLK8OTGuiEYX8hCDj92VrjJ6jHSHNEFMVqDfQbhVT8vdPz eRgx2ObU7vOvC6Lsq0ezSsVBZ2TkR5/Z+S4n0= Received: by 10.223.14.3 with SMTP id e3mr35173516faa.25.1320528938117; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:35:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.96.200 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:35:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44d3d6paww.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <44d3d6paww.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> From: Chris Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:35:17 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: recursive copy with spaces in descendants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:35:39 -0000 The tar one-liner is similar what I used to use on Gentoo and Arch linux, so I thought it strange that it isn't working here. I'm still having problems though, since the command returns " Can't create '$FILENAME' " for all files found. I quick tested by telling the tar command to copy to /tmp instead, and it worked fine. Copying a few test files created with ee transfer to /mnt/usb fine as well. I'm thinking there may be some characters (or even name length) that are causing the problem. Are there restrictions on filename characters/length on drives mounted with msdosfs? The mount entry for the drive is: /dev/da0s1 on /mnt/usb (msdosfs, local) #with -o longnames From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 21:49:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB45106567D for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F418FC13 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59656A704C2 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13781 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2011 21:49:00 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 20005, pid: 31916, t: 0.1501s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Nov 2011 21:49:00 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9885F2E0CE; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 312BE3983C; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:48:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Chris References: <44d3d6paww.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:48:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Chris's message of "Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:24:40 -0400") Message-ID: <44ty6insu2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recursive copy with spaces in descendants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:49:02 -0000 Chris writes: > The tar one-liner is similar what I used to use on Gentoo and Arch linux, > so I thought it strange that it isn't working here. I'm still having > problems though, since the command returns " Can't create '$FILENAME' " for > all files found. It would have been a good idea to show us the command you used that produced this. Without that, all we can do is say "I don't know; it works for me!" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 21:51:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E9C10656EE for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA448FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk3 with SMTP id k3so3146181ggn.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:51:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zsqmJzx82paL69nxUbxfXsoMFiXtb64Q++lSYqDjOFY=; b=EaIxrjFxcYss9rCieEk8DlUtXaN1U/Ne4T5ACcEhk2AjUZqfISzEojwO/ESpbmDZhr N/r7pXzWuRwig40n2cE7ZKpaWnP8odk/dsxn2gb1szxLrfFAARGkkYZKH+GNQ4QNh6Nt q1hic+0il/pkQ8HG+BDB5pei3NySruVp8x+kU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.172.35 with SMTP id z35mr4704164ano.0.1320528348693; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.143.13 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:25:48 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:51:22 -0000 Is there a way to make sure that the interface is UP and working before running ntpdate at boot on a box with a static IP address? After setting ntpdate_enable="YES" in rc.conf, I get the following error on boot: Setting date via ntp. Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: can't find host 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: can't find host 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: can't find host 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: no servers can be used, exiting I've had this problem with machines using DHCP and the solution was to use SYNCDHCP rather than DHCP in rc.conf. However, this box is using a static IP address. But the problem seems to be similar. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 21:52:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8421065698 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8678FC14 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk3 with SMTP id k3so3147045ggn.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:52:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zsqmJzx82paL69nxUbxfXsoMFiXtb64Q++lSYqDjOFY=; b=ZkZbzAzJU1Wf6qX81CxQMp3R6rIiZrAhI33mat0xX8UueeSrGc4vMO+axsw6qj5620 O6Q2f+vF/E9CHcmT29EITmre7C0q+Oqn2Jfp3fiNH3Jboq1ci2nyH98u0p8EkIvWFzDZ JfCJJQ0gtQ6MCRPVHYQ4vb2drykM/zkK2jHsQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.113.1 with SMTP id q1mr720891anm.126.1320529950459; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.143.13 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:52:30 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:52:32 -0000 Is there a way to make sure that the interface is UP and working before running ntpdate at boot on a box with a static IP address? After setting ntpdate_enable="YES" in rc.conf, I get the following error on boot: Setting date via ntp. Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: can't find host 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: can't find host 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: can't find host 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org 5 Nov 17:11:05 ntpdate[786]: no servers can be used, exiting I've had this problem with machines using DHCP and the solution was to use SYNCDHCP rather than DHCP in rc.conf. However, this box is using a static IP address. But the problem seems to be similar. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 21:57:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E36106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2158FC14 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so4637934wyg.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:57:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.3.71 with SMTP id a7mr3782637wia.0.1320530266193; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:57:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:57:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Robert Simmons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:57:47 -0000 Are you running a firewall? Do you have a ppp connection? This happens when there is a dependency that is not expressed in the /etc/rc.d scripts. - M On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Robert Simmons wrote: > Is there a way to make sure that the interface is UP and working > before running ntpdate at boot on a box with a static IP address? > > After setting ntpdate_enable=3D"YES" in rc.conf, I get the following > error on boot: > > Setting date via ntp. > Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known > =A05 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: can't find host 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org > > Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known > =A05 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: can't find host 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org > > Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known > =A05 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: can't find host 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org > > =A05 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: no servers can be used, exiting > > I've had this problem with machines using DHCP and the solution was to > use SYNCDHCP rather than DHCP in rc.conf. =A0However, this box is using > a static IP address. =A0But the problem seems to be similar. > > Rob > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 21:58:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101B1106566B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39C38FC1E for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwp14 with SMTP id 14so5149325wwp.31 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:58:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.106.104 with SMTP id gt8mr3831254wib.6.1320530326738; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:58:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44ty6insu2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <44d3d6paww.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44ty6insu2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:58:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Chris Subject: Re: recursive copy with spaces in descendants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 21:58:48 -0000 Oh, and what kind of filesystem is on the USB device? - M On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Chris writes: > >> The tar one-liner is similar what I used to use on Gentoo and Arch linux= , >> so I thought it strange that it isn't working here. I'm still having >> problems though, since the command returns " Can't create '$FILENAME' " = for >> all files found. > > It would have been a good idea to show us the command you used that > produced this. =A0Without that, all we can do is say "I don't know; it > works for me!" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:03:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id EF7DB1065673; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:03:49 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: Robert Simmons Message-ID: <20111105220349.GA49530@freebsd.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:03:50 -0000 On Sat Nov 5 11, Robert Simmons wrote: > Is there a way to make sure that the interface is UP and working > before running ntpdate at boot on a box with a static IP address? > > After setting ntpdate_enable="YES" in rc.conf, I get the following > error on boot: > > Setting date via ntp. > Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known > 5 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: can't find host 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org > > Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known > 5 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: can't find host 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org > > Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known > 5 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: can't find host 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org > > 5 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: no servers can be used, exiting > > I've had this problem with machines using DHCP and the solution was to > use SYNCDHCP rather than DHCP in rc.conf. However, this box is using > a static IP address. But the problem seems to be similar. same here. simply add something like the following to your crontab: 0 10 * * */2 /etc/rc.d/ntpdate onestart cheers. alex > > Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:13:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1427A106566B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6068FC17 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:13:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F45A70084 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 18:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23908 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2011 22:13:06 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 7769, pid: 1076, t: 0.1732s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Nov 2011 22:13:06 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755A72E0CE; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 18:13:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7F51E3983C; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 18:12:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Michael Sierchio References: <44d3d6paww.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44ty6insu2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 18:12:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Michael Sierchio's message of "Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:58:46 -0700") Message-ID: <44ipmynrpx.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Chris , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recursive copy with spaces in descendants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:13:08 -0000 Michael Sierchio writes: > Oh, and what kind of filesystem is on the USB device? msdosfs. Sorry; I trimmed that from what I quoted. - Lowell > - M > > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Lowell Gilbert > wrote: >> Chris writes: >> >>> The tar one-liner is similar what I used to use on Gentoo and Arch linu= x, >>> so I thought it strange that it isn't working here. I'm still having >>> problems though, since the command returns " Can't create '$FILENAME' "= for >>> all files found. >> >> It would have been a good idea to show us the command you used that >> produced this. =A0Without that, all we can do is say "I don't know; it >> works for me!" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:14:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FF9106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1774C8FC08 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5so3861658gyd.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:14:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1sLLBXp5ehbJLSuiQ0Rvwu1F/rMEzzYytYU0Dty5lZw=; b=xlXXYuOmOcjym81ItcXodery4jLgourskswVb1B4R5UjCaJeUpksNQrNS8A+0NCk05 RCYwiyrcmLDNpGuQMyvuCt4My3QAI/FTZBTGWg93U5opZu1QnuyQ3zl9hogc/xLCPlwh DRuNpA4eya0UZ/DTdT7bZ/qXY78/oiqVwynJg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.5.19 with SMTP id 19mr4598458ane.60.1320531288141; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.143.13 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:14:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 18:14:48 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:14:49 -0000 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote= : > Are you running a firewall? =A0Do you have a ppp connection? I'm not running a firewall on the machine in question. I am behind a firewall, if that's what you mean. I don't have a ppp connection. The box is a server that is running on bare metal, no VM. Fixed IP address (198.162) behind a NAT firewall. But, after booting, everything works correctly: # /etc/rc.d/ntpdate onestart Setting date via ntp. 5 Nov 18:09:31 ntpdate[1324]: step time server 128.10.254.7 offset -0.000537 sec > > This happens when there is a dependency that is not expressed in the > /etc/rc.d scripts. Can you elaborate? My rc.conf looks like this (pretty simple): hostname=3D"example" ifconfig_sk0=3D"inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 0xffffff00" defaultrouter=3D"192.168.1.1" sshd_enable=3D"YES" #Screensaver saver=3D"daemon" #Encrypted swap geli_swap_flags=3D"-d -l 256 -s 4096" #/tmp in memory tmpmfs=3D"YES" #Kerberos kerberos5_server_enable=3D"YES" kadmind5_server_enable=3D"YES" #Time ntpdate_enable=3D"YES" Also, the box is 8.2-RELEASE with current updates via freebsd-update. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:15:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A52106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpuburner@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C429E8FC12 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so5730975faa.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:15:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=aKwO52whiB6l5fUUdsrKhrCZAKGT3GRdAmSrPtYSXlA=; b=vEhnm491L12JcOQN8BGXiL3pFqxpd3HdTv8eqzGpUGyvlug02JXP4USZrUMdqb8tdE O+EWef6ssJQfbqoeAaWuiLHkf8bioriBLrAZwm3cr1gX1OyGnDZQNbRfI+r8q3TPfWnP +XIv1RCr1A2c6o5AEID2Mzn7K0L8juEev+bYA= Received: by 10.223.91.82 with SMTP id l18mr32380060fam.30.1320531336115; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:15:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.96.200 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:15:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <44d3d6paww.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44ty6insu2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> From: Chris Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 18:15:16 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: recursive copy with spaces in descendants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:15:39 -0000 I apologize for the lack of detail. The command I'm using is: ( cd /usr/local/etc/transmission/home/Downloads/ ; tar cf - . ) | ( cd /mnt/usb ; tar xf - ) I've also tried: cp -afv /usr/local/etc/transmission/home/Downloads /mnt/usb rsync -aq /usr/local/etc/transmission/home/Downloads /mnt/usb find . -print0 | xargs -0 -I "{}" cp "{}" /mnt/usb #when in source directory Filesystem on USB drive is FAT32, 32k blocksize, 16GB capacity, formatted on a Windows 7 box. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:19:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2212106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F0C8FC16 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk3 with SMTP id k3so3166898ggn.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:19:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fi+ASGGlC/9C9dIkIkPiMDnIFlFC/WSAqhnS5ML6wlU=; b=tBbqRRP0siimvG54IeD0aLDgafuOP97/ZXdqySbivxfdB7xkkD9Ylfze2V5fx/qq0M 96JD7cngrP7FZZm4L5O4r9NZjvusWTm0pT0zivM/9JVia9wvX62aM/ntOsSTCS59D8R+ 63Ngv+sDZOOT4B1LLoSoByf5aS1J0z7K13hpM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.179.19 with SMTP id g19mr314384anp.38.1320531546531; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.143.13 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:19:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111105220349.GA49530@freebsd.org> References: <20111105220349.GA49530@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 18:19:06 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:19:07 -0000 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Alexander Best wrote: > same here. simply add something like the following to your crontab: > > 0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10 =A0 =A0 =A0* =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 */2 =A0 =A0 /etc/= rc.d/ntpdate onestart I have something similar in my crontab which is not exactly what I need. I want to make sure that the clock is set at every boot because I'm using this as a kerberos server. If the clock is not set properly at boot, kerberos will not work properly until the nightly cron jobs are run and the clock is set then. I need everything working at boot. I can't have a window of problems between boot and midnight or whenever cron runs ntpdate. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:20:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724DD106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066728FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf22 with SMTP id 22so3526357wwf.1 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:20:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.89.5 with SMTP id bk5mr3802634wib.60.1320531647782; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:20:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <44d3d6paww.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44ty6insu2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:20:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Chris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recursive copy with spaces in descendants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:20:49 -0000 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Chris wrote: > I apologize for the lack of detail. The command I'm using is: > ( cd /usr/local/etc/transmission/home/Downloads/ ; tar cf - . ) | ( cd > /mnt/usb ; tar xf - ) Show, don't tell. What does tar report when you run it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:25:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B64106566B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4158FC0A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so4650434wyg.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:25:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.3.71 with SMTP id a7mr3816174wia.0.1320531956080; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:25:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20111105220349.GA49530@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:25:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Robert Simmons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:25:57 -0000 The keywords in /etc/rc.d/ntpdate have # PROVIDE: ntpdate # REQUIRE: NETWORKING syslogd named # KEYWORD: nojail which means that networking must be up first. The question in your case is why name resolution is failing. See what happens if you pick some public stratum 1 or stratum 2 servers for your ntp.conf. Then try specifying IP addrs instead of FQDNs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:33:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1786F1065674 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EA88FC1A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA5MXSIJ012158 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:33:28 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pA5MXSIJ012158 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1320532408; bh=KK7hhuxRookm1M5ArbbnXuooBpIFFgzMqMTZVP3/+6w=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=pR1L0COn7UzzkpP8UOJJ2SU0F2LbaILc3sF2JJKA+C1jVA4X2Y+sOHk1iazzJ57ks dk4W8dE5LtN08plQVKXlclzcHLaiLDbEJoXcKWbKWY6F1DHsYaUXlMsmdol2iuKKQw YwOH+8IKyS0GkwFNKr7n60NfItu6wtwTP5bLp5Jg= Message-ID: <4EB5B9AF.9080101@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:33:19 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Simmons References: <20111105220349.GA49530@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC806F3AD6B68AF95C326742F" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:33:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC806F3AD6B68AF95C326742F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/11/2011 22:19, Robert Simmons wrote: > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Alexander Best wr= ote: >> same here. simply add something like the following to your crontab: >> >> 0 10 * * */2 /etc/rc.d/ntpdate onestart >=20 > I have something similar in my crontab which is not exactly what I > need. I want to make sure that the clock is set at every boot because > I'm using this as a kerberos server. If the clock is not set properly > at boot, kerberos will not work properly until the nightly cron jobs > are run and the clock is set then. I need everything working at boot. > I can't have a window of problems between boot and midnight or > whenever cron runs ntpdate. crontabs have this handy '@reboot' syntax... It's all explained in crontab(5). However, you would be well advised to run ntpd(8) rather than bodging the clock with ntpdate at intervals. ntpdate is deprecated by the ntp project, given that ntpd now has the capability to synch the clock the first time after restart no matter what the offset. Just add these rc.conf settings: ntpd_enable=3D"YES" ntpd_sync_on_start=3D"YES" Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigC806F3AD6B68AF95C326742F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk61ubgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxUyACfbGohVOKY8DSiP51gxjNtACiG 1nAAn2++QfE6UdqL6Pl+zRejyfOfQoLw =lkxb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC806F3AD6B68AF95C326742F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:40:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF85106566C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Martin.vGagern@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1259E8FC0A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Nov 2011 22:13:44 -0000 Received: from 178-26-28-18-dynip.superkabel.de (EHLO [192.168.71.20]) [178.26.28.18] by mail.gmx.net (mp048) with SMTP; 05 Nov 2011 23:13:44 +0100 X-Authenticated: #858129 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18yD7IR19EyKzmvqfSQQbROPROb6kd29Rz2alc9Bm 3HvgmR3kr1bLY3 Message-ID: <4EB5B512.2000601@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:13:38 +0100 From: Martin von Gagern User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111003 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4a1pre Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0420CE16D17171239895FF99" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: =?UTF-8?B?5p2O5qOu?= Subject: zfs file names (inodes) without files (ENOENT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:40:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0420CE16D17171239895FF99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! A. SUMMARY Long story short: I have a file name on my zfs without a file to it. ls will include it in the dir content, but stat-ing that file will result in an ENOENT error: "No such file or directory". B. HISTORY So how did I come to this situation? I've recently had to kill the sending side of an rsync, with the receiving side on FreeBSD. For reasons yet unknown, the next run of rsync started deleting stuff it shouldn't. Details on this are in PR 162318 [1], but quoting the most important things: Logging into the receiving FreeBSD as root, I found that large parts of the user's home directory content had disappeared, even outside the subdirectory used as the rsync destination! - All the .* config files in the home directory were gone - The .ssh directory was still present, but its content was gone as well - Both the home dir and the .ssh subdir contained a file "rsync.%stat", which should be the name of an extattr instead, used to implement the rsync --fake-super command line option. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D162318 C. SYMPTOMS I first assumed a problem in the binary rsync build for FreeBSD, but devs on the above bug report favored RAM failure or an upstream source code bug. So I gave it another try, and payed closer attention to the error messages. Among them was the following: > rsync: stat "/home/name/backup/etc/ca-certificates" failed: No such fil= e or directory (2) Strange thing is, this isn't specific to rsync at all, it can be reproduced using simple command line tools like ls: > # ls /home/name/backup/etc/ | grep ca-cert > ca-certificates > ca-certificates.conf > ca-certificates.conf~ > # ls /home/name/backup/etc/ca-* > ls: /home/name/backup/etc/ca-certificates: No such file or directory > /home/name/backup/etc/ca-certificates.conf > /home/name/backup/etc/ca-certificates.conf~ So as you see, the name is returned by readdir(3), where both ls for the dir and the wildcard expansion find it. But anything that stat(2)s the file will encounter an ENOENT error. "zpool status" says everything's fine, so zfs isn't aware of any corruption. I believe that no matter what errors user space programs might make, the kernel zfs driver should never allow the above to happen. Either a file is there, or it isn't, there should be no such mixture. So what do you think, is this likely to be a bug in the zfs implementation? I found one other person describing problems like this: in threads titled "file lose inode in Memory-Based file system.", lisen1001 described pretty much the same thing, except on ramdisk on 8.2 instead of my own hdd-based raidz on 9.0-RC1 [2,3]. [2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.questions/280183 [3] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.devel.file-systems/13153 D. NEXT STEPS As I'm new to FreeBSD, I'm not yet sure how bug reports are handled around here. As I said, I've reported a bug report against rsync, and it has been closed on the grounds that this appears to be an upstream problem. Would it make sense to include the above information in the bug report for reference? Would replying to the gnats address be enough to accomplish that? Should the bug be reopened, as I assume all my problems to be related, and as the zfs corruption at least is specific to FreeBSD? If so, how does one reopen a report? Or who can do that? Do you agree that this looks like a problem in the ZFS implementation? Should I file a new problem report for that? Can you suggest any way I could resolve the corruption on my local ZFS pool, short of destroying and recreating the whole file system? "rm" for the file doesn't work, as it, too, encounters the ENOENT. Is there any tool to check or rebuild the inode data structures of zfs? "zpool scrub" doesn't seem to fit the bill, as its manpage indicates a computation of file content checksums. Greetings, Martin von Gagern --------------enig0420CE16D17171239895FF99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk61tRcACgkQRhp6o4m9dFt6AwCeIBOUiJJLrQayhPNU1v6HhHaW 1RcAnjmHVTuZl831SxsT0QiUTrxUkwoF =yhd9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0420CE16D17171239895FF99-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:45:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732F81065674 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8778FC17 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:45:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA5Mjf07028798; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:45:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id pA5MjfQm028795; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:45:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:45:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "C. P. Ghost" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4EB4D76A.2050009@colannino.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY=14dae9399c998798ef04b1020901 Content-ID: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:45:41 -0600 (MDT) Cc: James Colannino , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Checking for broken packages (as in linking) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:45:44 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --14dae9399c998798ef04b1020901 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 7:27 AM, James Colannino wrote: >> No, I don't mean checking for broken ports :-P  In fact, when I Google >> around for the answer to my question, that's all I can find, which is why I >> bring my question to the mailing list instead :)  Maybe "broken ports" or >> "broken packages" isn't the right term (what should I be searching for >> instead?) >> >> What I want to know is, are there tools that will check the ports I've >> installed and tell me if any of my packages are linked against libraries >> that are no longer there?  I'm paranoid that at some point, while I'm >> building and installing updates, I'm going to break something. > > I'm using the following script (attached). There's also pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts. --14dae9399c998798ef04b1020901-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:49:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14B61065673 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpuburner@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E4D8FC14 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so5753755faa.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:49:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=puioW2sHlk4DsDYQLY8YV4y4zyZy4I0jElMgic04pjQ=; b=eBwhjsqPaqJ/2Si0XLe11icc4s8yH3L/OZ4sz0HZHztLOyqZkNB5L5rZyUxWYCovPz KRyP9DHhIbpZR5OJ2ve465OzWS4fvGieDxGBm13x+phYL78A3D3Qgsj+A0f/q80TlLTG gh4YmvOU1OjI9eUgcCOu44oV+NomhswHvSmVE= Received: by 10.223.14.3 with SMTP id e3mr35493643faa.25.1320533390118; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:49:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.96.200 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:49:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <44d3d6paww.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44ty6insu2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> From: Chris Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 18:49:29 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: recursive copy with spaces in descendants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:49:51 -0000 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Chris wrote: >> I apologize for the lack of detail. The command I'm using is: >> ( cd /usr/local/etc/transmission/home/Downloads/ ; tar cf - . ) | ( cd >> /mnt/usb ; tar xf - ) > > Show, don't tell. What does tar report when you run it? > The following messages display: ./: Can't set user=921/group=921 for . ./Reboot S1 - 01 [3FD6C4B2].mkv: Can't create 'Reboot S1 - 01 [3FD6C4B2].mkv' The last message (can't create) repeats for all files in the directory. Running 'ls -al /mnt/usb' yields: drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 32768 Dec 31 1979 . drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 512 Nov 5 03:04 .. Where /mnt/usb was originally empty in the first place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 22:55:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABC81065674 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDCC8FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA5MtYm5028857; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:55:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id pA5MtYaw028854; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:55:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:55:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Robert Simmons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:55:34 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:55:35 -0000 On Sat, 5 Nov 2011, Robert Simmons wrote: > Is there a way to make sure that the interface is UP and working > before running ntpdate at boot on a box with a static IP address? > > After setting ntpdate_enable="YES" in rc.conf, I get the following > error on boot: > > Setting date via ntp. > Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known > 5 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: can't find host 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org > > Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known > 5 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: can't find host 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org > > Error : hostname nor servname provided, or not known > 5 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: can't find host 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org > > 5 Nov 17:11:05 > ntpdate[786]: no servers can be used, exiting > > I've had this problem with machines using DHCP and the solution was to > use SYNCDHCP rather than DHCP in rc.conf. However, this box is using > a static IP address. But the problem seems to be similar. Yes, it is. FreeBSD 8-STABLE and 9 have /etc/rc.d/netwait just for this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 23:10:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37E0106566C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8493F8FC14 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt32 with SMTP id 32so5096811ywt.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:10:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kr3gSk/AuLK8XWzEhiytlpOw2/o+WboMzYbjG1pmrIM=; b=P6SagDLbxfL4HfaKXUjXI38m1TrGRciDzSUSc3swqGad3QD/ZX3kq8WMDp+2VYctFI kZd++l3j8Xi9puubuRbWl8KfzFPYRmTIVG936V6m6JNaDWVpmGhkDercfFP8CvyFqd+D DzHiI7cVRPFP+6F2oFKQLf254ERrl2eIl6Aow= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.113.1 with SMTP id q1mr749237anm.126.1320534621735; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.143.13 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:10:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 19:10:21 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:10:22 -0000 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 5 Nov 2011, Robert Simmons wrote: >> Is there a way to make sure that the interface is UP and working >> before running ntpdate at boot on a box with a static IP address? > Yes, it is. =A0FreeBSD 8-STABLE and 9 have /etc/rc.d/netwait just for thi= s. Thanks, could you elaborate as to how I use netwait at boot to run ntpdate? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 23:27:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922C81065670 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541A08FC08 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk3 with SMTP id k3so3214313ggn.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:27:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LR4XcdqmWsNGChjxD04nV35KAvnO0TVxLfoJxr1MTko=; b=Tx5rB7siu3IIhI9A0scI8YNPu6FA3xcXFiX0UGhpw8mX/T8O1engUC88ovmg9PHX0J iurDMwOG2lR8Zd1NPMoLX1tyYjmTabP13n66fEXLrjtKKx8LSKtD68hgPUf29SmssgSH 86sVMBgGLDDLdDe1rojfA2BbOLUb4VfGulCxI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.113.1 with SMTP id q1mr755112anm.126.1320535648491; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.143.13 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:27:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EB5B9AF.9080101@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20111105220349.GA49530@freebsd.org> <4EB5B9AF.9080101@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 19:27:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:27:29 -0000 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > crontabs have this handy '@reboot' syntax... =A0It's all explained in > crontab(5). Thanks! > However, you would be well advised to run ntpd(8) rather than bodging > the clock with ntpdate at intervals. =A0ntpdate is deprecated by the ntp > project, given that ntpd now has the capability to synch the clock the > first time after restart no matter what the offset. =A0Just add these > rc.conf settings: > > ntpd_enable=3D"YES" > ntpd_sync_on_start=3D"YES" Thanks again, this works without any problems. I'm still curious how to get the ntpdate adjustment to occur later in the boot process after the network interface is UP, but now it's merely academic. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 23:35:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A87106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78858FC0A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED7A5081B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:35:41 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:35:41 -0700 Message-ID: <2118.1320536141@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: mkisofs man page... HUH? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:35:41 -0000 Looking at the man page for mkisofs I see the following: -r ....................... If any of the special mode bits are set, clear them, because file locks are not useful on a read-only file system, ... Just curious: What the bleep have file mode bits got to do with file locking? I'm personally not aware of any connection between the two. Somebody please enlighten me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 23:37:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531A4106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329AD8FC17 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id pA5NbDPM097024 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:37:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id pA5NbDfN097023; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA22803; Sat, 5 Nov 11 15:31:53 PST Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:31:50 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: btillman99@yahoo.com Message-Id: <4eb629d6.xKywhE9Ue/McOeMI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <84AD393C-FDDE-4F00-BAD8-F5CB41BCED07@d3photography.com> <1320489355.14536.YahooMailNeo@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1320489355.14536.YahooMailNeo@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:37:14 -0000 Bill Tillman wrote: > the protocol used by OpenVPN would not work whatsoever with > Cisco equipment ... That's what security/vpnc is for :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 23:42:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6910106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Martin.vGagern@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C4FE8FC08 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Nov 2011 23:42:05 -0000 Received: from 178-26-28-18-dynip.superkabel.de (EHLO [192.168.71.20]) [178.26.28.18] by mail.gmx.net (mp013) with SMTP; 06 Nov 2011 00:42:05 +0100 X-Authenticated: #858129 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/XLhYH0GHX1tF9XcSZ2bkvWsqEOKp8ENb1D0cMw3 8AmQR5nWz+HQCh Message-ID: <4EB5C9C7.1050804@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:41:59 +0100 From: Martin von Gagern User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111003 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Brodbeck References: <4EB5B512.2000601@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4a1pre Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAC3B0734484CCE12AB280A1E" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zfs file names (inodes) without files (ENOENT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:42:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAC3B0734484CCE12AB280A1E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06.11.2011 00:27, David Brodbeck wrote: > I'm curious if you've tried ls -B to see if there are any > non-printable characters in the filename. Hadn't tried yet, did try now, nothing strange there. Nevertheless, thanks for the suggestion, David. By the way, even "ls -l" of the whole directory will stat the file and thus result in an error. There can hardly be any strange characters involved there, as the name should be straight from readdir. Martin --------------enigAC3B0734484CCE12AB280A1E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk61ycwACgkQRhp6o4m9dFuPhQCfWnxH+3Cd5Zp3bjzkUhMA+E5x GxYAn2tfdYqCAZ4p61QDC/rcRvMK1mTX =22OL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAC3B0734484CCE12AB280A1E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 23:43:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3272C1065672 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27758FC27 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA5Nh9CX029124; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:43:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id pA5Nh9kp029121; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:43:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:43:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Robert Simmons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-1238987321-1320536430=:28513" Content-ID: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:43:09 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:43:10 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-1238987321-1320536430=:28513 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-15; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011, Robert Simmons wrote: > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> On Sat, 5 Nov 2011, Robert Simmons wrote: >>> Is there a way to make sure that the interface is UP and working >>> before running ntpdate at boot on a box with a static IP address? >> Yes, it is. FreeBSD 8-STABLE and 9 have /etc/rc.d/netwait just for this. > > Thanks, could you elaborate as to how I use netwait at boot to run ntpdate? Untested: netwait_enable="YES" netwait_ip="192.168.1.1" # IP address to ping to verify network is up netwait_if="em0" # interface to use Also there's netwait_timeout, which defaults to 60 in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. ---902635197-1238987321-1320536430=:28513-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 23:52:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6893106564A for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpuburner@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508608FC0C for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by faar19 with SMTP id r19so5783817faa.13 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:52:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=W2jdg2FoJmRcwJqsBxQJXM5mZwj1jhSyWHo/TWLTz1o=; b=lp0FLXtG/IeCiGj90fzBADvjMHcpUn3MO1RAorWyKt19UFWrdww3tfXzEHzMCIwX1M dEfXaU3NIXMABy8UA++FX8A9mv3PApM9h+XVl1a5bIgtn8DBlPHw6ralLxVMS5g7MXAX mAkFoTc3ex0k7Oh4dgvXxbClDmPdi8Zbd89Uc= Received: by 10.223.5.201 with SMTP id 9mr35786704faw.5.1320537125103; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:52:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.96.200 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:51:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <44d3d6paww.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44ty6insu2.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> From: Chris Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 19:51:44 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: recursive copy with spaces in descendants X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:52:06 -0000 On a hunch, I gave the following a shot: tar -cvlf - '/usr/local/etc/transmission/home/Downloads'/ | split -a 2 -b 3900m - /mnt/usb/TX_DL.tar. which created a split tar archive of the files on /mnt/usb. I'm still thinking there's something with the source path/file names that the msdosfs driver on BSD doesn't like, but at least this way is usable for the intended scenario. I guess I'll call this solved unless you all have some insight as to why the original method wasn't working. Thanks for all the help so far! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 5 23:52:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0B71065742 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691768FC1B for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pA5NqMrj029183 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:52:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id pA5NqMT1029180 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:52:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:52:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:52:22 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: ntpdate on boot problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:52:23 -0000 On Sat, 5 Nov 2011, doug@safeport.com wrote: > On Sat, 5 Nov 2011, Warren Block wrote: >> On Sat, 5 Nov 2011, Robert Simmons wrote: >> >>> I've had this problem with machines using DHCP and the solution was to >>> use SYNCDHCP rather than DHCP in rc.conf. However, this box is using >>> a static IP address. But the problem seems to be similar. >> >> Yes, it is. FreeBSD 8-STABLE and 9 have /etc/rc.d/netwait just for this. > > I do not see this in the handbook. Did I just miss it?. IMO the necessary > synchronization should just be built in to booting. AFAIK it's not in the Handbook yet. The problem is that some network interfaces actually take a while to come up after ifconfig is done setting them up. The amount of time taken could depend on the local network with autonegotiation and such. Another approach is to set up the DHCP server--if there is one--to assign static addresses based on MAC address.